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Speaker 1: Here's your hosts, Jesse Severe and Victor Nuno.

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Speaker 2: Fantasy Hockey Live back once again. Jesse Severe, Victor Nuno

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the Fantasy Hockey Doctor. How you doing, Victor?

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Speaker 3: I'm doing awesome, Jesse.

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Speaker 2: How are you good Man? Good again? Summer Contemplations should

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have the Jack Candy theme music from Saturday Night Live?

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What is that deep thoughts with Jack Candy? That's a

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thirty year old Saurday Night Live reference people. I hope

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you enjoyed it, Victor. Here's what I want to know today.

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How do Europeans do it? Because games start at like

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the middle of the night. I don't understand how people

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on that continent can follow the And yet we have

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lots of listeners in Europe, and I suppose you can

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record everything and watch it the next day, but that

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would make me insane personally. It's every four years I

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have to deal with this, or every eight years with

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the Olympics. What the heck is going on? I'm supposed

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to be at work. I'm supposed to be sleeping, and

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suddenly there are sports on. How do you think they

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do it? Victory? People are just wired differently than me.

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Speaker 3: Maybe I certainly think that's true, but also, yeah, I've

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noticed that I've been lucky enough to travel to Europe

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a couple of times in the last several years during

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the NHL season, and it's I just feel completely disoriented,

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like trying to figure out when I put my ads

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in when the games are on. Typically there when you're asleep,

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or sometimes if you wake up early enough then maybe

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you'll catch the end of some of them. It's just

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it's a real challenge, especially with goalie starts. If you're

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not sure if this guy's playing or not, like I

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feel like you really have to you might need to

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draft and have rosters based on knowing that those guys

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are actually going to play. I think back to the

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Roupe a Hint situation a couple of years ago, when

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it was like was he gonna play?

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Speaker 4: Was he not going to play?

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Speaker 3: And teams that don't announce their goalies in advance, like

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you just can roster those guys on your team because

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you just wouldn't know. You'd have to go to bed

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before and set your roster before doing that, unless you

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keep really strange hours, which I guess as possible. So

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I just I think that, Yeah, if you're an NHL

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fan and you're up, my hat's off.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 3: I don't know how you do it, because it's it

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seems really hard. You can follow the stats and watch highlights,

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but watching things live just seems incredibly challenging.

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Speaker 2: Victor knows, I drop like a rock at about ten

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PM Central time, which sometimes screws with our ability to

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an hours. So I would never make it, Victor, I

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would not survive. I would be I would change. We

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would have to change fantasy hockey life, the best ball

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fantasy hockey life. That's the only way I could survive

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in that situation. I'm glad I'm not there, but something

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that's open twenty four hours a day, so you could

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do this. If you woke up in the morning and

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it's the middle of the night in America and there's

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nothing going on in the fantasy hockey world, you could

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still hop in our discord there's still probably people chatting

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about hockey at that hour, and all you have to

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A couple hundred people and they're ready to talk fantasy hockey.

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Start up your own conference. It's not Victor and I

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like holding town halls in there. That's not how this works.

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As a space we put out there for people who

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would like to have opinions on fantasy hockey, not have

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them exposed to the world necessarily, and not have a

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bunch of knuckleheads jump on them and say, if you

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don't use pims in your league, you're a big silly. Yeah.

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The people on social media, they see things like silly.

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We can't have that victory. We don't allow that kind

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of behavior in our discord. But there are more things

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that we can offer than just that. What are they Victor.

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Speaker 2: Be right back for our interview. Welcome to the show,

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Mike Meyer, Saint Louis Sports Central STL Sports Central. Ready

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to talk some Saint Louis Blues. How you doing today, Mike.

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Speaker 4: Boys, I'm doing well. The adrenaline's running well, and that's

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the weekend, beautiful weather outside, so I'm doing well.

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Speaker 2: You don't need any You don't need any adrenaline to

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be able to be on this show, Mike. Just maybe

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a slight caffeinated beverage of Coca cola or something. You'd

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be fine. No free ads, but you'll be fine. I

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appreciate that.

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Speaker 4: Fantasy hockey.

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Speaker 2: It's good stuff, absolutely, and talking the Blues is some

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good stuff, because my goodness, they were frisky last year.

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They got in the playoffs via tiebreaker over the Calvary Flames.

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Then they threw a heck of a scare into the

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President's Trophy winners in Round one. They were the hottest

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team in the league in the regular season at the end,

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as far as I'm concerned. A twelve game winning streak

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an overall nineteen four and two record after the Four

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Nations break when you average out the whole season stats,

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which is hard when we talk about how hot they

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were at the end and getting into the playoffs, but

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their penalty kill was a bit of a lower end

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in the NHL. But they must have prioritized quality over quantity,

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as they were twenty eighth in shots taken but eighth

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in shooting percentage, so they were only taking the shots

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they thought would go in. Dog on, It was the

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heater at the end of the season to sign the

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season to this year, or did the Blues just hit

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the right streak at the right time.

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Speaker 4: What do you expecting there, Mike boy, I'm hoping it's

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a sign of good things here to come. Looking at

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that record, I don't think anything like that is going

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to be sustainable over a course here of an eighty

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two game season, But I definitely think that with the break,

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it gave the Blues a good chance Bill to just

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rest reset here, especially underneath of coach Jim Montgomery, and

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just gave them that chance, Bill to just say, Okay,

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what do we need to be able to change and

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be able to review a lot and then be able

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to hit. Like you said, after the Four Nations break,

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it just looked like a completely different team. So I'm

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expecting a lot of really good things again, probably unsustainable

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based on last year's record. Again, we're I think, looking

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for a lot of really good stuff here to be

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able to come.

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Speaker 2: Robert Thomas is one of the good things that I

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think we could safe. We look forward to great season

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once again, second straight over a point per game pace.

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In that final twenty five game stretch I've already referenced,

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he put up forty of his eighty one points in

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those endpoints in the last twelve consecutive game, So forty

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points in the last of what twenty five games when

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I'm talking about He broke an ankle in October that

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was supposed to cost him six weeks but was actually

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more like four weeks. And as per usual, themo for

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Thomas was playmaking, but he actually took two shots per game.

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five he was taken a couple of years ago. And

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the shooting percentage is still excellent fourteen point eight percent.

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Thomas is a force in the face off circle man.

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His percentage climbed to fifty four point eight percent with

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seven hundred and thirty three face offs one overall, safe

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to say, even though he missed twelve games, it was

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a career year for Thomas. Can he do it again?

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Speaker 4: Mike boy, I like to be able to think so, Like

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you said, eighty one points, twenty one goals, sixty six

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in seventy games here, I think here it was he's

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a clear playmaker here for the Blues. And you just

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look at a team that adds a dynamic sniper here,

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Jimmy Snugger here into the mix. You're seeing a couple

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of other guys added into the mix here as well.

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They're not going to have Zachary Boldouk here anymore. You'll

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to play potentially up on that first line here, if

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and whenever that they needed him to. But you're seeing

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a guy who was really coming into his own reading

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the ice here, really well, geling very well here with

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all of his teammates, and underneath of this new system

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here of Jim Montgomery's, I think eighty points here should

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be a floor here for a guy here like Robert Thomas.

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I wrote an article here not that long ago. Could

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Robert Thomas actually flirt with one hundred points? And if

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all things go well, I really think that you could

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able to see another one hundred point player here coming

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out of Saint Louis.

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Speaker 3: I definitely agree with you there. And let's talk about

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Jordan Kyru, the next guy we're going to talk about.

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He had a seventy point pace in twenty four to

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twenty five. Previously he had sixty seven, seventy two, and

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seventy five point paces. Started the season mostly with Butchnevich

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and Thomas, but end of the season finished which ten

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and Holloway move around quite a bit. Thirty six goals,

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thirty six assists, his blockshot and hits. We're at three

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point ninety six per game, so a little bit on

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the lower end, ranking him two hundred and eighteenth, a

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little bit not as ideal for the peripherals, but decent

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for points entering his third year of that eight million

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dollar contract. So I think the question is where do

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you think we're going to see Cayrou next season. Is

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it going to be on that second line which Bennon Holloway,

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or do you think he'll get back onto that top line,

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that seventy point pace again, which he has been a

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couple of times.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a great question, and right now, I think

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that also depends on the success level here of the

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aforementioned Jimmy Snugger rud here, as he's going to likely

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take some steps here on the first line here with

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Robert Thomas. We saw him have some really good chemistry

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here with Thomas last year, and so if he can

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able to play a sustainable rate here across an eighty

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two game season, that's going to limit what a guy

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here in Jordan Chiro.

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Speaker 2: Can be able to see.

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Speaker 4: Now that's no knock here on that second line, because

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he's going to have alignment here and Dylan Holloway that

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saw really good chemistry here all of last season. A

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guy who could really really keep up here with this

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pace here offensively as well as just flying up and

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down the ice, could he be able to see seventy points?

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I think absolutely there's a little bit more mouths to

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be able to feed here offensively here as well. He's

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just gonna have to make the most here of it.

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So he's going to find his time here on the

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power play. He's going to have to be able to

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make the most here of it. But anywhere from seventy

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to seventy five points, I think you could absolutely be

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able to see here from a guy like Jordan.

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Speaker 3: Giroum awesome and the next guy, Dylan Holloway sixty seven

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point pace after being off for sheated last season, played

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the most of the season on the second line, pretty

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great success. Twenty six goals, thirty seven assists. His bash

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was five point zero nine per game, ranking him fifty

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fifth of ball skaters. That's pretty fantastic stuff. He was

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instantly noticeable by all fantasy gms because of that. He's

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in the second and final year of that two point

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two nine million dollars dollar contract, certainly making a case

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for that to be a tremendous value and getting a raise.

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He was a pretty good addition last season. So do

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you think that Halloway takes another step here, Mike, or

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do you think you can get over that seventy point pace?

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Speaker 4: I'm a little bullish on Holloway. I'm still projecting him

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somewhere around that sixty five seventy points, a little bit

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more cautious when it comes to his play. We saw

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that one time performance, and so I'm a guy who's

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a little bit more cautious when it comes to that breakout.

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I want to see a little bit more sustainability here

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with him. But again, he looked great here alongside here

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of Jordan Cairo. But like I've mentioned here before, here

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with Cairo, there's a few more miles bill to feed

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here with Snugger Root, a guy we haven't even gotten

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to Peu Suitor, not to mention Nick Bukes fed being

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added here the mix here as well. He's a little

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bit tougher able to predict here with Dylan Holloway. But

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underneath of Jim Montgomery we're seeing some real sustainable growth,

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but not hitting seventy points without some top line minutes.

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It's going to be a little tough.

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Speaker 2: Pavel. Butchnaevitch has after a couple of years at a

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point per game pace that he had earlier on. He's

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settled into something in the sixties for the past two

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and if that is a decline, it's not linked to

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the linemates he's had because he's been with Robert Thomas

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pretty much the whole time during Robert Thomas's peak at

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this point, and Bushnevitch has been deployed a lot on

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the power play. There were apparently some attempts to play

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him center earlier in the season, but that did not

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play out. Is Butchnevitch declining and are we expecting more

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of these sixty point type seasons? Maybe I'm despoiled because

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I think sixty point seasons aren't good enough for me,

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whom I being all that's relative. Ninety nine point eight

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percent of people who ever played hockey cannot play as

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well as Pabul Butchnevich did last year. But he's still

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he's shown that higher level of performance. So I'm just

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asking the question, is there something I'm missing that suggests

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actually the level of play was quite strong or just

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generally we're with Pablo butch Navids these days.

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Speaker 4: So I'm one that's up and down here with an

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opinion here of Pavel butch Navitch, because as you've seen

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there's been a bit of a regression almost every single

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season here from Butch Navid since he joined the Saint

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Louis Blues. With fifty seven points here last season. He's

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still playing alongside Robert Thomas you mentioned here as well.

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He played some time here at center here underneath of

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Drew Banister, and I think that really really affected him

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throughout the year, just he couldn't really be able to

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get a good solid footing. There was a report that

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came out here of Russia. There was a Russian article

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that he didn't interview, where he stated that there was

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a little bit of a lingering injury that he had

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sustained here in the preseason that kind of just nagged

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him all throughout the years. I'm hoping with a good offseason,

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some recovery here from him, and just a consistency here

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on the wing, that we could be able to see

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him break back into that sixty sixty five, maybe even

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flirt here with seventy. But again, that goes here to

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the fluidity here with this lineup, which is where fantasy owners,

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in my opinion, need to be a little bit more

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aware when they're drafting Blues players that you could able

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to see Jim Montgomery move players up and down the

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lineup because a guy who's playing on the third line,

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Jake Nabors, could be very well playing here up on

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the first line if Pavel butch Naevitch is struggling. Same

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thing here with Dylan Holloway. Butch Navig here is really

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good for multi caat. But again, I just worry about

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that consistency here with him. I'm cautiously optimistic that he's

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going to move up, but people in Saint Louis here

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know me as a little bit more of a of

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a butch Navich hater as in terms of the optimism

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here for his points.

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Speaker 2: In terms of consistency, I cannot fauld braden Chen because

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I've always worried about the beating this guy has taken

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with his physicality over the years. But he has doggone durable,

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even at thirty three years old, three straight years of

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gold Star tenants. Five of his last six seasons he

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did not miss a game. One hundred and ninety four

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hits last year was his most in a full decade.

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The face off percentage jumped well over fifty percent only

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the second time in his career. Actually that he's had

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the positive differential of positive versus negative that I saw.

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Fifty points was a bit more than the year prior.

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It's still a dip from those old scoring paces of

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somewhere in the sixties that he had back in the day,

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and seventeen thirty four average time on ice was his

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lowest mark since twenty fifteen sixteen back in the Philly days.

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He plays a lot of even strength minutes, but definitely

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second power play at this point played little. Didn't have

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very good stats either on the penalty kill. What is

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Braden Sheen going to be for the twenty five to

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twenty six Blues? What are you expecting, Mike.

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Speaker 4: I'm expecting somewhere within that forty five fifty five point

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range here for him. I think his days as a

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sixty point player are likely over unless he came out

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to find a different situation, and I don't see the

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Blues moving on from him anytime soon. The Blues had

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their chance to be able to move on here from him,

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and they opt to able to keep him as the

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club's captain. I don't see him getting moved here at all.

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The biggest difference we're here right now is whether or

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not Pugh's suiter Camil to rise above and take over

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here that two C spot here from Shin. I think

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that he's going to start the season out here in

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the top six, maybe even getting some very valuable power

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play time. But fantasy owners, I think are going to

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really just love his production about a point to every

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other game here or so, and just enjoy the multicat

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stats here, just like his brother. Again, very bullish on

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him here as well, forty five fifty points here in

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total forum.

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Speaker 2: And you've already mentioned Jake Nabers as a candidate to

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rise up the line up. He got better again this year.

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While his goals were down slightly from twenty seven the

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year before to twenty two, this year, a twenty two

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to twenty four forty six line featured more assists than

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the first one hundred and twenty nine games of his

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first three seasons combined, so forty six was a career

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high in terms of points he got into all eighty

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two games. Two outstanding features one is he throws a

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lot of hits, more than two hits a game. His

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shooting percentage also topped eighteen percent for the second straight year,

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making you wonder if that might just be real, and

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that's something that he's able to do. He played on

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all kinds of different lines you talk about moving around,

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but he had the right partners, healthy doses of Boushnevitch

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of Thomas with some sheen thrown in. While it surely

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isn't a surprise to hear his scoring took a jump

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as the team win on its late season run, it's

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great to see twenty one points in those last twenty

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six games, followed by six in seven playoff games. Is

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Jake Nabors now a top six stalwarts? Could we see

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that late season pace that it was getting up to

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something like sixty five plus point projected over a season.

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Could we see that in the new year?

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Speaker 4: I think absolutely absolutely. But the biggest thing here that's

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working against him is going to be the people who

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are playing up the lineup here in front of him

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here in Dylan Holloway as well as Pavel Buchnevic. Any

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of his success I think is going to be tied

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to potentially their regression because there's a lot of mouse

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build to feed here on that wing. And when you've

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got a lot of mouse build to feed, it's going

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to be taken here from somebody, and so as I

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think a lot of folks here in Saint Louis are

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hoping that Jake Neighbors going to work his way up

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the lineup, that means then that you're putting somebody here

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laka Buchnevitch like a Holloway here then on the third line,

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and at that point in time, then you got to

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figure out the power play, you got to figure out

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the penalty kill. And so unfortunately, I think Jake Nighbors

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is just going to end up finding his way as

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the odd man out here more times than not. And

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that's no knock here to Jake, but unfortunately there's a

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little bit more offensive skill in some of the other

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guys that are ahead of him in the lineup. So

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I think he can, he has the potential to end

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up doing it. But at the same point in time,

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again bullish on some of those different projections here for him,

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just simply due to the depth here on the wing.

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Speaker 2: You mentioned Puce Suitor and yeah, he's coming new to

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the team. He had twenty five goals and twenty one

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assists last year. Darn good goal, but has not had

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star performances throughout his career. But certainly has some good

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things to recommend him, but it sounds like you're optimistic

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about the role he might be able to take with

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this team. What is Peuth Suitor going to be doing

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with the Blues this year? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Absolutely absolutely, And that's where this is a lineup. And

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I think in the system here in Jim Montgomery's and

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his offensive output and what you're able to see here

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from a guy here like Pus Suitor, you saw more

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of a more of a middle six role here from him,

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I believe in Vancouver, where as the situation could be

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a smidge bit different for him when it comes time

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here for here with the Blues, where you can about

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to find him maybe getting that riser up into the

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second line, maybe even a chance will to get here

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in some power play one if he gets able to

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chance to line up alongside here on the wing here

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with the Robert Thomas, even alongside of like a Dylan Holloway.

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I think you're about to see a lot more coming

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here from him. But again it just depends that you're

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here on the line mates. Last season, you were looking

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here at a forty six or sorry, twenty five goals,

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forty six point season here from him and I think

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that's the floor coming for a guy here in PU Suitor.

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I'm projecting anywhere from a fifty five to sixty point

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floor here for PU Suitter.

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Speaker 2: Moving here to next season.

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Speaker 3: And the young buck that you already alluded to here,

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Jimmy Snugrud, we got to talk about him. After a

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stellar third season at the University of Minnesota, where he

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had fifty one points and forty games. He jumped into

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the NHL. He had seven games both during the regular

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season and in the playoffs, had four points. In each

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of those situations. We saw some high end skill. We

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saw some boneheaded mistakes that is probably expected for someone

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trying to do a little too much early on in

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their career. But there's so much potential there. Mike, what

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do you think we're going to see from Snugger in

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the season? Top line, top six? And if I put

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the over under at fifty five, which you taking.

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Speaker 4: I answered the first one here, I would be taking

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the over here on a fifty five point campaign here

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for him. The biggest knock here for Jimmy Snugger here,

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in my opinion, is not going to be the consistency

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here for him. I think it's just going to be

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the longevity of the full grind of an eighty two

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game season, plus all of the travel, plus playing up

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against NHL level talent. So you're talking about a guy

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who last season he played forty games here in the

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NCAA regular season, scoring fifty one points, and then he

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moves on does seven games here with four points here

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in the NHL, and then seven games here as well

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in the postseason, putting up two goals four points, consistently

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played here with Robert Thomas and looked darn good doing

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it here as well. So in my opinion, I think

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that you're seeing well over fifty point season just simply

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due to the line mates that he's going to be with.

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And I think if he's going to consistently be here

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with those guys, then he is he's going to rack

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up those points here, just almost as a line driver

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as well as just being at times a passenger. There's

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some beautiful no look passes here from him, if you

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can be able to look up some different plays here

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from him. The guy just has eyes in the back

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of his head at times, and the skill is undeniable

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here from a guy here like Jimmy Snuggerd and I'm

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not going to keep just trying to be the homer

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here with him. I think most fans who watched Jimmy

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Snuggero who can agree here with this. So it's going

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to really depend here again on the deployment. But I

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think you could safely say that it's going to be

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over fifty points here for him and certainly make a

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running here for Calder Trophy.

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Speaker 2: Slip forward to the blue line and a guy who

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he surprised me as being the guy who was maybe

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the star defenseman for this team last year, Cam Fowler

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coming over during the big move the season. The long

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time Anaheim duck and upper body injury robbed him of

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most in November, and shortly after his return, he was

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moved to Saint Louis's Jacob Truba made the move out

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where the scoring performance for Fowler was the best of

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his career. It culminated in the playoffs, where he had

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ten points in the series against Winnipeg, five of those

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in a RACKUS Game three that was Fowler's first home

479
00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:59,599
playoff game since twenty seventeen. All this despite having is

480
00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:03,279
lowest average TOM on ice since twenty fourteen slash fifteen

481
00:23:03,759 --> 00:23:06,839
that's a long time ago. He got decent power play

482
00:23:06,839 --> 00:23:10,160
tom on ice two minutes per game, although that was

483
00:23:10,279 --> 00:23:12,400
also less than he used to get over the years

484
00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:15,519
in Anaheim. How did Fowlers fit into Saint Louis and

485
00:23:15,799 --> 00:23:19,319
is this a sustainable pace that could be repeated this year?

486
00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:24,400
Speaker 4: Mike yeah, I think I think everybody was pleasantly surprised

487
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,400
here at the resurgence here from Cam Fowler. I believe

488
00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:31,079
here if I looked here at my stature properly since

489
00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:35,319
his acquisition, he was fifth among defensemen and even strength

490
00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:38,880
points at twenty eight, eleventh in total points here in

491
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:42,559
the postseason, post trade, you're talking about one point three

492
00:23:43,079 --> 00:23:45,680
I'm sorry, one point four to three points per game

493
00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:49,359
here in the playoffs, paired on the top pair, paired

494
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:52,839
with you know here on top power play minutes. You're

495
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:56,640
talking about a top a fringe, top thirty defenseman here

496
00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,359
in the league. I think he's going to be good

497
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,599
for forty four five points as long as he can

498
00:24:01,599 --> 00:24:03,920
be able to maintain that strong even strength and power

499
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,359
play production. I don't think that it was a fluke.

500
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:10,640
I think that you're seeing the benefits here. Unfortunately, sorry Anaheim,

501
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:12,640
but you pair him with some good people and in

502
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,599
a good system, and a guy like Cam Fowler, regardless

503
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,160
of his age, is just gonna thrive and not to

504
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,480
be able to mention here his ability about to add

505
00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,279
shot blocks. And this guy, he's you're talking about a

506
00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:26,319
multi cap stud here in this and you might be

507
00:24:26,319 --> 00:24:29,559
able to find if you're drafting him this year here

508
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,359
just on a just a yearly league, I think you'ren

509
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:35,319
able to find true value here from him. I hope

510
00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:39,240
people aren't overdrafting him against some of those proven veterans

511
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,640
and against some of those younger legs, because at this

512
00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:45,039
point you don't know where he might start running here

513
00:24:45,039 --> 00:24:47,640
out of steam. But yeah, I think you're talking about

514
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:49,240
a guy who can be able to easily put up

515
00:24:49,279 --> 00:24:51,640
a half a point per game pace here this coming season.

516
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:58,119
Speaker 2: And Colton Pereco continues to do very well well. He

517
00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,680
led the team in average TWN on ice, crossed to

518
00:25:00,759 --> 00:25:02,920
half point per game threshold for the first time in

519
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:07,519
his career. Actually, Pareco gets minimal power play points only

520
00:25:07,559 --> 00:25:11,359
one last year, which really makes half point per game

521
00:25:11,559 --> 00:25:13,359
pretty nice. If you can't get any of it on

522
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,720
the power player, you're not given that opportunity. He's got

523
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:19,200
some good even strength scoring. A knee injury took Parreko

524
00:25:19,279 --> 00:25:20,759
out for a lot of that big hot streak at

525
00:25:20,799 --> 00:25:22,960
the end of the season one month from March seventh

526
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,319
to April ninth, but he caught fire in the playoffs,

527
00:25:25,319 --> 00:25:29,200
scoring six points in that series against Winnipeg. He even

528
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:33,440
played he played with coming shortly after a hurt knee.

529
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,720
He played forty two to thirty three in the final

530
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:41,039
game in that final double overtime contest, leading all the Blues.

531
00:25:41,079 --> 00:25:43,359
I can't even stand up for that long. I'm not

532
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:45,759
even sure I could sit down for that long. What

533
00:25:45,839 --> 00:25:48,480
do you think of Colton Pareko's year, Mike, and is

534
00:25:48,519 --> 00:25:51,359
he going to remain a top paired defenseman for this team?

535
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:51,759
This year?

536
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:58,720
Speaker 4: Absolutely elated here from his production. I think this is

537
00:25:58,759 --> 00:26:01,799
the type of production that you have seen Blues fans

538
00:26:01,839 --> 00:26:07,000
wanting forever here at this point. The career high sixteen

539
00:26:07,039 --> 00:26:10,920
goals I think are Unfortunately it's an outlier. I don't

540
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:15,680
see that happening here again. Could he flirt here with twelve, probably,

541
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,720
but again it goes back here to some different milesbild defeat.

542
00:26:18,799 --> 00:26:22,440
He's going to remain a top pairing defenseman. That's just

543
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,480
a true testament here to just his true abilities here

544
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,960
in Saint Louis another multicat gem where you're looking at

545
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:30,440
a guy who's being able to put up one hundred

546
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:33,599
and twenty points one hundred and fifty blocks very easily

547
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:37,079
a save top forty defenseman here in fantasy, I'm projecting

548
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:42,079
him somewhere around that thirty two to thirty eight points. Again,

549
00:26:42,279 --> 00:26:44,200
those goals are maybe a little bit more here of

550
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:47,599
an outlier, but Montgomery system is certainly good enough be

551
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,599
able to help unlock some of his offensive capabilities to

552
00:26:50,599 --> 00:26:53,799
be able to put him above thirty points. And it's

553
00:26:53,799 --> 00:26:55,400
something that we be able to see here on an

554
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,119
international level where you're seeing a guy like Colton perreco

555
00:26:58,319 --> 00:27:01,160
unlock some of his offensive ability that are finally coming

556
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:02,079
here to Saint Louis.

557
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 3: All right, And we got a little bit of a

558
00:27:07,279 --> 00:27:10,240
points pick them between some of the other defensemen here,

559
00:27:10,559 --> 00:27:13,599
Philip Broberg, Justin Falk and Logan Mayu one of the

560
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:17,200
newcomers here who I guess get your thoughts on what

561
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,319
you where you think he'll slid in I'm imagining on

562
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:22,160
the bottom pair. But we saw Broberg a bit also

563
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,319
coming over last season thirty five point pace. Fulk has

564
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:27,759
had some up and down seasons. Last season he was

565
00:27:27,759 --> 00:27:30,640
at a thirty four point pace and mayu we only

566
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:32,960
saw seven games in the NHL, but he has had

567
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:37,920
success in the AHL and certainly has some abilities to

568
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:39,839
run a power play if they decide to let him

569
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,160
do that. So between these three, who are you picking

570
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:43,960
and how do you think they'll end up this season?

571
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 4: I think it's hard to be able to go against

572
00:27:48,279 --> 00:27:51,720
the youngster Philip Broberg here at this point. You're looking

573
00:27:51,839 --> 00:27:55,720
at his point production, his ice time here hovering around

574
00:27:55,759 --> 00:27:59,319
that twenty minutes here per game. Again, that may also

575
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,960
depend on the production here of a Cam Fowler, because

576
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,119
if Cam Fowler starts to falter here a little bit,

577
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:06,880
I think on that left side you can be able

578
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,000
to start to be able to see maybe a little

579
00:28:09,039 --> 00:28:11,920
bit of extra ice time here. For Philip Broberg. It's

580
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,880
no knock here against Justin Falk, but I think that

581
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,720
he's just going to start regressing here just a smidge

582
00:28:17,759 --> 00:28:20,079
bit more and maybe have a little bit more of

583
00:28:20,079 --> 00:28:24,039
a limited isolated role here underneath the Montgomery system now

584
00:28:24,079 --> 00:28:27,920
that he's got another weapon here in Logan may You,

585
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,839
may You certainly has the shot capabilities, certainly has the

586
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,880
playmaking abilities that I think we have seen in the

587
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,920
AHL and some limited action time here in the NHL,

588
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:40,079
and once he starts to get acclimated here to this system,

589
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,240
I think that his ability is a will to throw

590
00:28:42,279 --> 00:28:44,680
the hits, be able to make the offensive plays. I

591
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,720
think Montgomery's going to find a new little offensive toy

592
00:28:47,759 --> 00:28:49,279
that he can out to throw out there here ever

593
00:28:49,359 --> 00:28:51,960
now and then, but I think Philip Broberger is going

594
00:28:52,039 --> 00:28:53,359
to be able to take it. If I able to

595
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,559
pick here in an order, it would be Broberg and

596
00:28:56,599 --> 00:28:58,960
then a close mixture here between Fulk and may You,

597
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:00,400
with edging out Falk.

598
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 3: Indeed, I'm excited to see more bro Berg as someone

599
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:10,880
who watched Cam Fowler just not do well in Anaheim

600
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,720
for so many years. I'm just begging for a different

601
00:29:13,759 --> 00:29:15,400
option on the power play. But I have to admit

602
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,160
he was way better than I would have thought in

603
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,359
Saint Louis, yeah, this past season, so they have some

604
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:24,079
good options, which is also always nice. Absolutely, let's talk

605
00:29:24,079 --> 00:29:26,759
about the goalies. The blueser ranked fifth and expected goals

606
00:29:26,759 --> 00:29:30,079
against for sixty, but conceded the twelfth ranked actual goals,

607
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,079
So that suggests that they performed a little bit worse

608
00:29:33,119 --> 00:29:36,480
than expected, although if you look at the numbers, Bennington

609
00:29:36,599 --> 00:29:39,599
for the most part did well at even strength and

610
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:43,039
so did Hofer relatively evenly. But on the power play

611
00:29:43,519 --> 00:29:46,720
there was some issues with that. In terms of their performance.

612
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:51,960
And Bennington, of course, we should mention backstop Canada to

613
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,960
the Four Nations win. He did have a positive goals

614
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:58,400
save above expected. He's got two years left at six million,

615
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:00,880
and overall has been really pop as they've kind of turned.

616
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:02,440
He had a downward trend there for a while and

617
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,240
he's turned that around and that's been good to see.

618
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:09,839
Hoefer hadn't did not, wasn't able to outperform his coal

619
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,599
save above expecting. His delta fendwalk is a little bit negative,

620
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:16,960
but overall not terrible results in thirty one's games played.

621
00:30:17,519 --> 00:30:19,599
And this is the first year of that three point

622
00:30:19,599 --> 00:30:21,400
four million dollar contract. So what do you think we're

623
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,519
going to see between the split. I imagine we're still going

624
00:30:23,559 --> 00:30:26,920
to see a heavy dose of Bennington and maybe they

625
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:31,039
can both outperform their expected numbers this year. What do

626
00:30:31,039 --> 00:30:31,839
we think we're gonna see?

627
00:30:31,839 --> 00:30:35,720
Speaker 4: Mike? Yeah, this is where it's gonna be really interesting

628
00:30:35,799 --> 00:30:38,759
because Bennington. I'm gonna go back here just a smidge

629
00:30:38,799 --> 00:30:42,039
here for a second. Bennington, he was solid in twenty

630
00:30:42,079 --> 00:30:44,200
three twenty four. He had that nine to thirteen save

631
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,880
percentage twenty eight wins. But like you said, we started

632
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:48,640
all to see a little bit of a regression, and

633
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:50,839
that was including this past season where he fell to

634
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,559
a nine hundred save percentage, even though he still had

635
00:30:53,559 --> 00:30:56,079
the twenty eight wins for the second straight season. I

636
00:30:56,079 --> 00:30:58,759
think his aggressive style can cost him here at times,

637
00:30:58,799 --> 00:31:02,039
whether that's his puck hin or his occasional chirping and

638
00:31:02,079 --> 00:31:05,000
his occasional fights that he may lead to maybe just

639
00:31:05,039 --> 00:31:07,960
a little of inconsistency here for him. He right now,

640
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,640
he's the clear starter here in Saint Louis. There's no

641
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:13,880
doubt here about that. But I think Hofer's emergence could

642
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:17,279
slightly reduce his role, just to smidge a little bit.

643
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:21,519
With Hofer showing a really good dose year of consistent

644
00:31:21,599 --> 00:31:24,279
play save percentage wise, he didn't be able to play

645
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,079
that much better than Bennington. He had a nine to

646
00:31:27,119 --> 00:31:30,759
zero four safe percentage here this past season. But he's

647
00:31:30,799 --> 00:31:34,000
the future star. He's absolutely the future star here at

648
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,839
this point in time, and just because of that, for

649
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:40,519
his role remains a little bit limited here in fantasy.

650
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,119
I'm still projecting somewhere. Maybe it's not gonna be a

651
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:47,240
complete fifty to fifty split here for the two goaltenders,

652
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:49,759
but I could see somewhere around like a fifty five

653
00:31:49,759 --> 00:31:52,480
to forty five type of a split here between the

654
00:31:52,519 --> 00:31:55,720
two here of them. But at times last season, for

655
00:31:55,759 --> 00:31:58,720
those who were paying attention, Blues fans were or at

656
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:02,759
times calling for Joel Hoefer to become the one a

657
00:32:02,839 --> 00:32:06,359
over Bennington, and so Bennington starts a falter here a

658
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:09,359
little bit. I think that Jim Montgomery is very comfortable

659
00:32:09,559 --> 00:32:12,200
and confident here in a goaltender here in Joel Hoefer,

660
00:32:12,519 --> 00:32:13,960
that he can be able to take a bit more

661
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,319
here of the starts here and feel confident here in

662
00:32:17,359 --> 00:32:18,079
that ability.

663
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,599
Speaker 2: All Right, That's been a great tour around the Saint

664
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:28,279
Louis Blue is a fascinating team in that incredibly rough

665
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:32,920
central division. Mike, I want to keep following your work

666
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:34,680
all year, but I don't know how. Why don't you

667
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,119
tell me, tell Victor, tell all the people out there

668
00:32:37,119 --> 00:32:40,200
listening how they could be doing that and reading your work.

669
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 1: I am.

670
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 4: I'm most active here on Twitter, so if you want

671
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,319
to to, if you're on the tweets here, still follow

672
00:32:48,319 --> 00:32:53,200
me m underscore Meyer three here on there STL Sports Central.

673
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,359
If you're a fan here of not just the Blues,

674
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:58,240
but anything involving Saint Louis Sports, feel free to able

675
00:32:58,279 --> 00:33:00,440
to follow us there. If you're still here in the

676
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:02,839
in the prospect game, feel free will to follow me

677
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,039
here on substack. I've got a nice little page here

678
00:33:05,039 --> 00:33:07,559
over there, Blue Notes Rising. Feel free will to take

679
00:33:07,599 --> 00:33:09,720
a look here as I deep dive deep here into

680
00:33:09,759 --> 00:33:12,839
the prospect game and give people live updates here as

681
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,000
all the prospects here are moving along in their journey

682
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:16,039
and their road to the NHL.

683
00:33:17,519 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 2: All right, thanks so much for coming on today Mike

684
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:20,799
and talking Blues.

685
00:33:21,319 --> 00:33:24,319
Speaker 4: I appreciate it, guys, appreciate it.

686
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 2: Will since then, well that's good fire pap, Oh my goodness,

687
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:35,240
grow long a with.

688
00:33:35,319 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 3: A cat wet gram.

689
00:33:40,839 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 2: Now it's your weekly goalie talk. But Kat Silverman Kat's instincts.

690
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,079
Speaker 5: Time once again for Cat's instinct What's Cat silver might

691
00:33:49,119 --> 00:33:52,480
have been gold mag We're talking Blues goalie prospects. We're

692
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:56,400
gonna start with medem Jorenko six four ninety six pounds

693
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,400
drafted in the seventh round back in twenty nineteen. This

694
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,799
was his third AHL season and it seems like things

695
00:34:02,799 --> 00:34:04,799
are trending down for him in the AHL. So that's

696
00:34:04,799 --> 00:34:08,519
time looking two grade. Looking at hockey prospecting, he graduated

697
00:34:08,599 --> 00:34:11,679
last year in the model ending around thirty percent, so

698
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,440
there's not that many great comps for him. A bunch

699
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,039
of guys were a busts or of average replacement level guys.

700
00:34:17,039 --> 00:34:19,239
So kay, what are instincts tell us about Charinko?

701
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 6: I honestly thought that he was getting close to kind

702
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:31,239
of calling it quits in North America. Although the Blues

703
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:35,320
do have this tendency to wait until we think that

704
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:39,559
they have overcooked their goaltender, give it another two years

705
00:34:39,559 --> 00:34:41,280
in the minors, and then bring them up to the

706
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:45,880
NHL level, and it has produced a couple NHLers so far.

707
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,559
Their success rate with that is higher than any other

708
00:34:48,639 --> 00:34:51,480
team that does that. See how that goes. I don't

709
00:34:52,119 --> 00:34:57,079
necessarily see anything about his game that really stands out

710
00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:02,880
as a glaring weakness. Yes, I do think that sometimes

711
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,920
he can get goaded out of position a little aggressively.

712
00:35:06,159 --> 00:35:09,599
I'm not really sure. I think has he gotten I

713
00:35:09,599 --> 00:35:11,760
don't think he's gotten a chance to play. Yeah, he

714
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,840
hasn't gotten a chance to play in a single NHL game,

715
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:19,719
and he is turning twenty five this year. I think

716
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,639
they have to give him a look if they think

717
00:35:22,679 --> 00:35:25,400
that he is still a part of their organization. I

718
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:27,199
think they have to give him a look this year.

719
00:35:27,639 --> 00:35:30,280
They have to see if he can handle maybe a

720
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:34,079
little more structure behind an NHL defense, because that is

721
00:35:34,119 --> 00:35:36,679
where sometimes he can get drawn out of position when

722
00:35:36,679 --> 00:35:39,760
the defense in front of him really just crumbles. So

723
00:35:41,679 --> 00:35:44,360
that could serve him well if he's not having to

724
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:49,239
deal with the inconsistency of American League defensive positioning.

725
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:51,320
Speaker 2: But I don't know.

726
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:58,760
Speaker 6: I'm very lukewarm on him, which I feel really nervousing

727
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,920
because I have said that about probably three different Saint

728
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,239
Louis Blues prospects so far, and all of them then

729
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:07,039
went on to play in the NHL. We'll see. I'm

730
00:36:07,039 --> 00:36:09,360
sure they're overcooking him and then they're going to bring

731
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,360
him up and he's gonna be ready to start fifty games.

732
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:12,039
We'll see.

733
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:15,800
Speaker 5: In fact, I think they wait until you say that

734
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,400
about them to give them their shot, so this is

735
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:21,039
actually a good sign for the Blues goals.

736
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:24,760
Speaker 6: They wait until I say, I think this is his

737
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:26,920
last year. I think at this point they got a

738
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:30,360
cut Ties and they're like just kidding, and then they

739
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:31,000
bring him up.

740
00:36:31,039 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 5: So it's the cat's over in boff. We love it.

741
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,360
Let's talk about the other guy, Colton LS six and

742
00:36:38,559 --> 00:36:41,360
five pounds drafted back in twenty nineteen in the third round,

743
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:45,559
and it's his second straight HL season and he, on

744
00:36:45,599 --> 00:36:49,159
the other hand, looked really good in his second both

745
00:36:49,159 --> 00:36:51,840
of the stants. Last season was sixteen games, this season

746
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,639
quite a bit more forty two. He looks great. It

747
00:36:54,639 --> 00:36:58,559
looks good in the playoffs is Unfortunately, his equivalency on

748
00:36:58,599 --> 00:37:01,440
hockey prospecting looks terrible. That's because it ended with his

749
00:37:01,559 --> 00:37:03,800
ECCHL time, which wasn't very good, and he's cut in

750
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:07,679
the corner since then. And also casanyone's wondering not related

751
00:37:07,679 --> 00:37:10,559
to Dan Ellis, which I was wondering, Kat, what are

752
00:37:10,559 --> 00:37:13,480
your instincts tell you about Hulton Ellis.

753
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 6: I think he is another goaltender within the Saint Louis

754
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:22,320
Blues system who I assumed was finished and he is

755
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,840
still in their system, and that it's fascinating to me.

756
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:28,360
I truly, I don't think I've ever seen a team

757
00:37:28,519 --> 00:37:32,199
over bake goaltenders like they do. I really love his

758
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:36,239
tracking game. I think he is one of the goaltenders

759
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:39,840
who was almost really well served by playing EHL time

760
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:43,559
so dominantly for a while. Some goaltenders it seems like

761
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:51,199
if they have inconsistencies with their physical technique, those bad

762
00:37:51,199 --> 00:37:54,280
habits can get exacerbated when you put them in the ECHL,

763
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:58,239
where really just the level of consistency is all over

764
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:00,239
the place for the players that are playing in front

765
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,960
of them for the experience in front of them, and

766
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:06,280
then you see so much turnover in rotation where guys

767
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:09,039
are constantly getting called up and down between the ECHL

768
00:38:09,159 --> 00:38:11,639
the AHL, and they getting loans to other teams, so

769
00:38:11,679 --> 00:38:14,360
they really don't get a chance to develop a consistent

770
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:17,800
defensive strategy that helps them tighten up those holes in

771
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:20,639
their games. But he seems like he's one of those

772
00:38:20,679 --> 00:38:26,559
guys who had a really solid technical foundation and didn't

773
00:38:26,599 --> 00:38:29,719
have a bad attitude about it. So it worked out

774
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:31,280
really well in his favorite because he just got a

775
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:34,280
lot of reps behind some really bad defense and behind

776
00:38:34,599 --> 00:38:37,440
a lot of changes and a lot of rotating casts,

777
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:40,320
got called up and down between the HL and the

778
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:45,320
ECHL multiple times, and his numbers just kept trending up,

779
00:38:46,119 --> 00:38:50,840
which I think is really promising. And I don't know,

780
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:54,199
I watched some of his games last year and I thought,

781
00:38:54,559 --> 00:38:57,639
what are they doing leaving this guy in the AHL?

782
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:01,719
Like what am I missing? He's not super spectacular at anything,

783
00:39:02,159 --> 00:39:04,119
but there is nothing that he has in his game

784
00:39:04,119 --> 00:39:08,440
that I think is actively bad, and if anything, his

785
00:39:08,599 --> 00:39:12,519
positioning has tightened up so well that he plays not

786
00:39:12,639 --> 00:39:16,440
a stylistic Roberto Lawongo game, but an energy Robertolongo game

787
00:39:16,599 --> 00:39:21,000
where you really see the play of responding to the

788
00:39:21,119 --> 00:39:24,639
energy that he is bringing in net, almost the if

789
00:39:24,679 --> 00:39:28,000
a goaltender could be a captain type of energy from

790
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:32,719
the net, and that's something that especially with development teams

791
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:36,559
like the ECHL and the AHL, it's really nice to

792
00:39:36,559 --> 00:39:38,760
have a goaltender that the rest of the team can

793
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:41,679
look at and trust and feed off of what they're doing.

794
00:39:42,639 --> 00:39:48,920
So I think the Blues could use that, but I

795
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,039
don't know where they plan to keep them next year.

796
00:39:51,159 --> 00:39:54,800
I'm really curious to see what the Blues end up

797
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:58,679
doing with their depth chart this season, just because I

798
00:39:58,679 --> 00:40:04,400
think both Colton Ellis and Durenco look like they are

799
00:40:05,159 --> 00:40:09,920
not in do or die mode, but they both look

800
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:13,840
like they are at the point where you're wondering why

801
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:18,519
they haven't been called up. So I don't know, we'll

802
00:40:18,519 --> 00:40:20,679
see what they do. I think the Blues love to

803
00:40:20,679 --> 00:40:24,599
play it a little cautious and worst case, there are

804
00:40:24,599 --> 00:40:27,159
a lot of teams that could use the leadership that

805
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:30,360
Ellis has, So if the Blues really don't want to

806
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:32,039
call him up, they.

807
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:32,679
Speaker 4: Could trade him.

808
00:40:33,519 --> 00:40:35,760
Speaker 5: Indeed, it'll be fun to watch. Thanks so much, cap

809
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,920
giving us certain stinct some of the loose golds.

810
00:40:41,679 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 2: And Victor. There is something else we got to talk about.

811
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Don't we have something special to give to the listeners.

812
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:52,599
Speaker 3: That's right, Jesse Dauber Hockey has generously given us a

813
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couple of free copies of their amazing fantasy Hockey guide.

814
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Speaker 2: It's the Bible.

815
00:40:56,960 --> 00:41:00,280
Speaker 3: It's the best fantasy hockey guide out there, and we're

816
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:01,880
going to give it away to some of our listeners.

817
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All you need to do is leave us a recent

818
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from the time you hear this five star review on

819
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820
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and then send it to me, Victor, a screenshot with

821
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your name or a way to identify you and your

822
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:20,440
most recent five star review. Otherwise I don't have a

823
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:22,280
way to track who it was. And then we'll select

824
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,119
a couple of the winners from all those who enter

825
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and get you your guy.

826
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Speaker 2: We'll be back right after this.

827
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Speaker 3: Dig.

828
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Speaker 2: The Dynasty digs Saint Louis Blues edition. The Blues have

829
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:53,039
the number thirteen system in all of hockey, and it

830
00:41:53,079 --> 00:41:56,440
all starts out with a pretty good no brainer. Who

831
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:57,079
is it, Victor?

832
00:41:58,119 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, that would be Jimmy Snuggero twenty twenty two, twenty

833
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,599
third overall pick six, two hundred and eighty seven pounds.

834
00:42:05,039 --> 00:42:09,000
He went back somewhat surprisingly, I think some would say,

835
00:42:09,039 --> 00:42:12,159
to the University of Minnesota for a third season. Was

836
00:42:12,199 --> 00:42:14,360
close to a point per game in his second season

837
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:16,480
after going over in his first season, and then he

838
00:42:16,519 --> 00:42:18,599
went back over point per game fifty one points in

839
00:42:18,679 --> 00:42:21,760
forty games as the captain there. They didn't go as

840
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:23,440
far as they would have Liken the Frozen four, but

841
00:42:23,559 --> 00:42:27,039
he was everything for them. He also signed a contract

842
00:42:27,039 --> 00:42:29,519
and played seven games with the Blues and the regular

843
00:42:29,519 --> 00:42:31,960
season had four points, and then four more points and

844
00:42:32,039 --> 00:42:34,079
seven more playoff games with the Blues, so all of

845
00:42:34,119 --> 00:42:37,719
that was pretty awesome to see. Looking at his FHL

846
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:43,360
player card based on the NCAA time, you see a

847
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:46,239
whole lot of green here. As you might expect, he

848
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:50,599
was pretty impressive during that run, and his transition game

849
00:42:50,679 --> 00:42:53,519
was great. His play driving was pretty awesome. His bash

850
00:42:53,639 --> 00:42:56,480
figures to be pretty good. His hits some blocks are

851
00:42:56,519 --> 00:42:58,599
just a little bit below average, but his shots are.

852
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:02,480
He's a volume shit so that helps a lot. And

853
00:43:03,039 --> 00:43:05,280
his scoring looks to be pretty good. I have n't

854
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:07,440
had a seven point thirty eight thirty eight percent chance

855
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:09,840
of being a seven. That's pretty good, Jesse. Let's hear

856
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:12,239
what else is good about Snuggarwood from our FAHL Scout.

857
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 2: FHL Scout Grant has this to say about Jimmy Snuggaroud.

858
00:43:17,519 --> 00:43:20,559
The skating can be a bit clunky at times average

859
00:43:20,559 --> 00:43:22,440
it best at this point, but it takes him three

860
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:25,960
to four strides to get up to speed. This could

861
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,320
be an issue in the NHL unless he improves it.

862
00:43:28,599 --> 00:43:32,800
Passing in handling, Snuggarrood has above average passing and puck handling.

863
00:43:33,039 --> 00:43:36,239
Stick handles well in traffic, looks to either shoot or

864
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:40,360
stick handle or shoot before passing in the offensive zone,

865
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:44,480
shooting great shot. He is strong on his feet, strong

866
00:43:44,519 --> 00:43:47,760
on the puck, gets his shot off quickly, strong and accurate.

867
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:51,159
The IQ snuggar Rude scans pretty frequently, so he has

868
00:43:51,199 --> 00:43:53,559
a good sense of where his teammates are before getting

869
00:43:53,599 --> 00:43:57,800
the puck. Good anticipation confidence seems high bordering down Kacki,

870
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:00,840
so he's quite comfortable with the puck at all times

871
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:04,880
and has a low panic threshold. The fore checking Snuggarood

872
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:07,280
is strong on the puck, can out muscle opponents along

873
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:09,239
the boards or when the puck is in his feet.

874
00:44:09,639 --> 00:44:11,800
His motor needs to be going at all times for

875
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:13,880
him to be an effective for checker. He'll need to

876
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:17,239
improve here a little defense. He's a little all over

877
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:19,559
the map defensively in his own end and needs to

878
00:44:19,599 --> 00:44:22,119
move his feet a little more. His ability to win

879
00:44:22,159 --> 00:44:24,760
puck battles will help him in this department as he

880
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:29,280
improves positionally. The best asset is shot by a mile.

881
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:31,480
He's going to score twenty five to thirty five goals

882
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:35,719
in the NHL with just it alone. The biggest concern

883
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:38,400
is the skating. He reminds Grant a little bit of

884
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:41,360
brock Besser, who has limits to his game. Snuggard is

885
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:44,920
a better skater and a bit more physically engaged than Besser,

886
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:48,760
but the ceiling might be similar the top tier role

887
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:52,000
or potential that Grant can foresee top six four who

888
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:55,400
plays power play one thirty goals or more, sixty points

889
00:44:55,519 --> 00:44:59,480
or more one day. The overall skills package, shot passing, pucking.

890
00:44:59,519 --> 00:45:02,920
Linard just too good to not get the opportunity in

891
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:07,039
the NHL. The media outcome here third line winger fifteen

892
00:45:07,079 --> 00:45:10,039
to twenty five goals, thirty five to forty five points.

893
00:45:10,599 --> 00:45:13,039
That's if he can't get the separation needed to get

894
00:45:13,079 --> 00:45:15,920
his shot off on a consistent basis in the NHL.

895
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:20,079
In that case, he could have trouble reaching his potential. Again.

896
00:45:20,119 --> 00:45:24,079
The stylistic comparable brock Besser slightly better passer, stronger on

897
00:45:24,119 --> 00:45:27,000
the puck, better touch, better at puck Henley than Besser. Though,

898
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:31,119
and the final thoughts, snuggar Rood is capable of forty

899
00:45:31,119 --> 00:45:33,159
goals in a point per game one day, but he's

900
00:45:33,199 --> 00:45:34,920
going to have to clean up parts of his game

901
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,960
and improve skating to get to that peak. But Grant

902
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:43,239
thinks thirty thirty guy for sure, and the NHL rank

903
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:47,840
King Mason Black has this to say about Snugger roods

904
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:51,800
comparable or the guy he's up against, Yuri Koolich of

905
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:56,159
the Buffalo Sabers. Snugger Rude, unsurprisingly to me, comes out

906
00:45:56,199 --> 00:46:00,199
ahead in this matchup fifty nine to forty one percent. Victor,

907
00:46:00,519 --> 00:46:03,599
I gotta think you're gonna agree with that one, aren't you. Yeah.

908
00:46:03,599 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 3: I mean, I like both of these guys, so it's

909
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:08,039
a little hard to pick. But I do think that

910
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:12,239
Snugrud has more top line upside. I think someone asked

911
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:14,159
me recently, can he be a top line winger. I

912
00:46:14,199 --> 00:46:17,159
think the answer is yes, most likely second line, but

913
00:46:17,199 --> 00:46:20,119
he has that potential, whereas Kulick, I think that he's

914
00:46:20,199 --> 00:46:22,719
more likely a middle sixer. I don't know that he

915
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:26,519
has that top end upside. And it's funny that one

916
00:46:26,559 --> 00:46:29,880
of snuggroods comparables in the PNHL model is Robert Thomas,

917
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:32,639
someone that many people hope he plays with and then

918
00:46:32,679 --> 00:46:35,280
he could get a lot of points that way. Kolick,

919
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:37,639
on the other hand, has quite a bit lower PNHL e.

920
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:39,760
You look at the hockey prospecting between the two and

921
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:42,360
it definitely leans Snuggrood as well. Nineteen percent chance of

922
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:45,760
being a star versus three percent chance, so it leans

923
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:49,000
that way as well. Looking at Kulick's NHL player card,

924
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:52,199
there's a little bit more red based on his agel

925
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:55,239
time sorry, his play driving a little bit subpar, His

926
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:58,639
bash at eightieth percentile not bad. He actually blocks a

927
00:46:58,679 --> 00:47:01,159
lot and shoots a lot, but doesn't really hit, and

928
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:04,840
the rest of his numbers aren't super great. His six

929
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:06,800
point sixty seven is what I have him at in

930
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:10,960
my ranks. Looking at some other comparables for Jimmy Snugrud,

931
00:47:11,599 --> 00:47:13,559
Marco Sturm is one that he looks a lot alike

932
00:47:13,599 --> 00:47:16,000
in this model. Hopefully he's a little bit better producer

933
00:47:16,039 --> 00:47:18,639
than that. I think he has upside beyond that. If

934
00:47:18,679 --> 00:47:21,280
you look at his his j FRESH player card, five

935
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:23,480
percent chance of being a star seventy one percent chance

936
00:47:23,519 --> 00:47:25,880
of being in NHL are so as usual a little

937
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:27,480
bit more pessimistic there, Jesse.

938
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:31,800
Speaker 2: Yes, sir, who is the need to know prospect?

939
00:47:32,639 --> 00:47:35,599
Speaker 3: The need to know is Thomas Mrschik. He is a

940
00:47:35,679 --> 00:47:38,679
twenty twenty four fourth round pick, one hundred and thirteenth overall,

941
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:41,440
six foot z one hundred and seventy pounds. He played

942
00:47:41,519 --> 00:47:43,800
in the WHL this past season for the Prince Albert

943
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:47,639
Raiders after previously being with Medicine Hat. And he was

944
00:47:48,119 --> 00:47:51,519
close to a point per game last season when he

945
00:47:51,599 --> 00:47:53,239
was with Medicine Hat, and he went over that this

946
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:56,960
season ninety points in sixty five games, so pretty good

947
00:47:57,000 --> 00:48:00,480
stuff there. He is going to the nca Layer out

948
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:02,719
next season. He'll play for Colorado College, so that'll be

949
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:06,840
really interesting to see in this season. In his draftless

950
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:09,320
one season and the tracking data at Mitch Brown, there's

951
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:11,559
a lot of red here. Overall doesn't look that great

952
00:48:11,559 --> 00:48:15,440
other than his transition game looks really good. His offense

953
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:19,480
not so good at just fortieth percentile, although his expected

954
00:48:19,519 --> 00:48:22,400
goals and shots are high, his expected premier system passes

955
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:25,719
not as good. If you look at his FHL player card,

956
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:29,599
you see a lot of the similar issues that you

957
00:48:29,679 --> 00:48:34,280
saw on MITG. Brown's tracking data for Murshik. The transition

958
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:37,079
game pretty good, especially when he carries in and out

959
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:40,239
and the play driving. Not expected goals, of course, you

960
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:43,760
are really low. Fenwick just below average priffs well, he

961
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:46,480
does do some of that. His hits are about average,

962
00:48:46,519 --> 00:48:49,079
his shots are really good, so seventy eight percentile for

963
00:48:49,159 --> 00:48:51,760
that and he pims quite a bit. Five point eighty

964
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:53,679
seven is what I have him at. Let's hear a

965
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:56,920
little bit more about Thomas Murshik from our FHL scout Jesse.

966
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:01,079
Speaker 2: Grand back at it on Murcik Mersage is a quick

967
00:49:01,119 --> 00:49:03,559
skater who has a good first few strides then tops

968
00:49:03,559 --> 00:49:06,239
out it just slightly above average. Needs to improve his

969
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:09,000
or move his feet much more consistently and improve the

970
00:49:09,039 --> 00:49:12,880
overall motor to be successful at the next levels. Passing

971
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:15,840
and handling average, and he can be guilty of forcing

972
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:18,400
the odd pass into coverage. He has decent hands in

973
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:21,440
tight but doesn't have the skilled set to be a

974
00:49:21,599 --> 00:49:25,800
razzle dazzle type guy shooting. Mersich has a good quick

975
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:28,719
snapshot that he likes to take on his off wing.

976
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:31,920
He's able to find soft spots at the WHL level,

977
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:35,480
but will he at the AHL and NHL levels. The

978
00:49:35,519 --> 00:49:38,679
IQ puck doesn't always follow him around, and he can

979
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:41,639
disappear for stretches, which connects him with the lack of

980
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:45,679
anticipation at times. He sees his teammates relatively well, but

981
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:49,719
he can force passes for checking. Quick skater who can

982
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:51,760
get in on the fore check and be physical, but

983
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:54,559
doesn't do it enough. He needs to use his motor

984
00:49:54,599 --> 00:49:56,960
more often, as he needs something to fall back on

985
00:49:57,000 --> 00:50:00,519
when the offense dries up a little. Defense, he plays

986
00:50:00,519 --> 00:50:02,920
center and wing, but might be more suited for the

987
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:06,559
wing moving forward. Some of his defensive coverage pads are

988
00:50:06,679 --> 00:50:09,840
suspect and can leave a man open for scoring chances against.

989
00:50:10,159 --> 00:50:12,519
He needs to improve without the puck in his own

990
00:50:12,599 --> 00:50:16,880
end to get much better defensively. The best asset right now,

991
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:19,719
it's the shot and the stick handling giving him success

992
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:22,320
in the DUB. He is a little above average in

993
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:26,679
both of these categories. Offense moving forward is the biggest concern.

994
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:30,239
Mercis is going to have difficulty maintaining his current role

995
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:32,559
as a top six forward who plays on the power

996
00:50:32,559 --> 00:50:36,639
play one in DHL or NHL. He is more likely

997
00:50:37,039 --> 00:50:39,320
going to be faced with changing his game to suit

998
00:50:39,599 --> 00:50:42,119
a bottom six role if he wants to fit into

999
00:50:42,119 --> 00:50:46,000
the NHL. The top tier outcome third line forward power

1000
00:50:46,039 --> 00:50:49,760
play two in his ceiling. That's because he doesn't possess

1001
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:53,920
the elage, putt handling, passing, or skating skills necessary for

1002
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:56,639
a top role in the NHL. Grant thinks he does

1003
00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:59,039
have the tools to be a good bottom six forward

1004
00:50:59,079 --> 00:51:01,440
if he works on the other aspects of his game

1005
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:05,320
and the media outcome here, Grant's going with the top

1006
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:08,800
six forward in the E the AHL. That's if he

1007
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:11,480
continues to progress as an offensive to player but doesn't

1008
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:14,400
work on defense, that might be where he ends up

1009
00:51:15,119 --> 00:51:18,039
stylistic comparable to er Mott if he changes game to

1010
00:51:18,079 --> 00:51:21,519
make the NHL. Mercage has a physical side to his game,

1011
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:25,119
and Mersage is just nineteen years of age could develop

1012
00:51:25,199 --> 00:51:27,280
quite a bit in the next year or two. At

1013
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:29,440
this point, he lacks the skill set to become a

1014
00:51:29,519 --> 00:51:32,320
top six NHL forward, and Grant believes he's going to

1015
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:34,559
need to change his game to become a bottom six

1016
00:51:34,599 --> 00:51:37,360
forward or else he won't play in the NHL. But

1017
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:39,440
that's not to say he couldn't put up fifteen to

1018
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:42,599
twenty goals and or assists one day and play on

1019
00:51:42,639 --> 00:51:48,119
a third line. Anything above that is pretty unlikely and

1020
00:51:48,639 --> 00:51:54,000
NHL Rank King Tidy champion last year, Mason Black puts

1021
00:51:54,159 --> 00:51:58,480
Mrshik up against Luca Pinelli and Luke Panelli of the

1022
00:51:58,519 --> 00:52:02,280
Columbus Blue Jacket, wipes the floor with mister Mrisik. It

1023
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:05,360
is sixty six two thirty four percent victor at two

1024
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:09,719
to one ratio almost and Grant has this to say

1025
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:13,320
about dallaboard of Orski. He has a fairly impressive first

1026
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:16,320
few strides. Top speed looks to be about average. That

1027
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:18,840
initial quickness might be enough to get him open in

1028
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:22,760
tight spots. Passing and handling a little slough to process

1029
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:26,159
while with the puck in one NHL game that Grant

1030
00:52:26,199 --> 00:52:28,440
was able to view that could just be nerves. He

1031
00:52:28,519 --> 00:52:31,119
does possess very good stick handling, moves the puck well,

1032
00:52:31,159 --> 00:52:34,480
and embraces driving play at the AHL level. The big

1033
00:52:34,559 --> 00:52:36,880
question will be if he can do that in the NHL.

1034
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:41,920
The shooting Devorski possesses a good, quick, accurate shot that

1035
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:46,000
he sometimes one times with authority. Currently it is probably

1036
00:52:46,039 --> 00:52:48,679
no more than an average NHL shot, so he's gonna

1037
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:50,920
need some work at that level. He does have a

1038
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:55,199
nice backhand shot when in tight the IQ great patience

1039
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:57,920
with the puck seems to find open eyes easily. He

1040
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:01,039
sees the ice well on the offensive zone and anticipates

1041
00:53:01,039 --> 00:53:03,800
where his teammates are. He protects the puck well and

1042
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:05,840
likes to have the puck rather than defer to a

1043
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:09,679
teammate the for checking his average. At best, he's not

1044
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:12,119
a physical player for a two hundred pound forward and

1045
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:14,039
is going to need to improve his strength on the

1046
00:53:14,079 --> 00:53:19,119
puck or battling for pucks defense. Like most young offensive forwards,

1047
00:53:19,119 --> 00:53:21,159
he can get lost defensively in his own end with

1048
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:25,000
coverage on his defensive assignments. He will need to improve

1049
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:27,920
this in order to earn a regular role in the NHL.

1050
00:53:28,199 --> 00:53:32,159
Having said that, he's little head defensively from most similar

1051
00:53:32,199 --> 00:53:36,280
offensive forwards at this stage, his puck handling and play

1052
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:40,039
driving abilities then show up to be his best assets.

1053
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:42,199
He can be that forward on his line who could

1054
00:53:42,199 --> 00:53:44,920
carry the puck or be the conduit on the power

1055
00:53:45,039 --> 00:53:49,199
play for scoring opportunities. But Grant's biggest concern is that

1056
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:51,840
he fails to develop any further. Most of what we

1057
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:53,920
hope he will become as a player is not yet

1058
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:56,599
in his arsenal. Still needs to improve his skating, shot,

1059
00:53:56,679 --> 00:53:59,800
stick handling, defense, and strength for him to become a

1060
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:03,119
top six forward. He's only twenty still, but he's got

1061
00:54:03,159 --> 00:54:05,320
a lot of work ahead of him. So the top

1062
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:08,599
tier outcome that Grant foresees top six forward tier three

1063
00:54:08,639 --> 00:54:11,360
who can produce on the power play and even strength

1064
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:15,280
sixty to eighty points one day. That's because he's got

1065
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:18,440
the skill, the smarts, the opportunity, and the draft cloud

1066
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:21,360
to get plenty of chances to succeed with the Blues

1067
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:24,079
in the next two or three years. The median outcome,

1068
00:54:24,119 --> 00:54:26,920
though bottom six forward who plays twelve to fourteen minutes

1069
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:30,519
per game struggles to break fifteen to twenty goals thirty

1070
00:54:30,519 --> 00:54:33,559
five to forty points. That's because he's a smart player.

1071
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:36,039
But if he's not driving play, he's going to need

1072
00:54:36,119 --> 00:54:39,880
to rethink his approach to making instaining in the NHL,

1073
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:43,039
and that's going to be building off defensive play. The

1074
00:54:43,079 --> 00:54:46,880
stylistic comparable Grant thinks maybe a little bit of Bohoorvat

1075
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:49,679
in his game and the final thoughts Divorce is going

1076
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:51,880
to have to raise his skill sets from average to

1077
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:56,400
above average and skating, shooting, defensive play to make it

1078
00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:59,639
as regular in the top six with any NHL team.

1079
00:55:00,079 --> 00:55:02,920
Right now, at twenty, he's an above average stickhandler and

1080
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:06,840
slightly above average passer. Patience is needed with him, but

1081
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:09,599
Grant's not convinced he's going to get to that sixty

1082
00:55:09,679 --> 00:55:12,079
to eighty point level. Is that what you think?

1083
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:14,280
Speaker 3: No, I don't think so. I think I would take

1084
00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:18,199
Murshik here, and I think that people obviously liking some

1085
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:21,199
of the stats there for Pinelli, but the reality is

1086
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:24,440
that he looked good in the OHL for that out

1087
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:26,599
of sixty seven's, but I worry that he's going to

1088
00:55:26,639 --> 00:55:29,800
have a hard time transitioning to the AHL. He's still

1089
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:32,039
five foot nine. Look at Pinelle, so he's definitely on

1090
00:55:32,079 --> 00:55:33,880
the smaller side one hundred and sixty eight pounds, and

1091
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:35,920
I worry that he's going to struggle in that league,

1092
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:39,440
whereas Murshik, he's six foot zero. I don't think he's

1093
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:42,079
going to struggle as much. College will be pretty telling

1094
00:55:42,119 --> 00:55:45,199
for him, but I would definitely take Murshek here. The

1095
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:49,039
hockey prospecting between the two, it also leams Murshik twenty

1096
00:55:49,079 --> 00:55:53,239
fourteen percent to eight percent, so nearly double. And looking

1097
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:55,519
at the FHL player card for Pinella, you see a

1098
00:55:55,519 --> 00:55:58,159
lot more red and a lot of concerning colors here,

1099
00:55:58,559 --> 00:56:01,239
So I would definitely leave Murshik. Looking at some other

1100
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:05,199
comps for him, looking looks like Valeriy Nachushkin is one

1101
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:07,800
who might have some rhymes in terms of the production

1102
00:56:08,519 --> 00:56:12,320
and looking at the j Fresh player card, Thomas Mursik

1103
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:15,360
two percent chance of being a star, twenty two percent

1104
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:16,880
chance of being in NHL or Jesse.

1105
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:20,760
Speaker 2: Lastly, the need to know prospect or the keep your

1106
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:22,199
m prospect victor.

1107
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:25,840
Speaker 3: Keep your eye on is Dalibard Divorski twenty twenty three,

1108
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:28,800
tenth overall pick sixty one, two hundred and five pounds.

1109
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:33,960
He had his first season in the HL, primarily this season.

1110
00:56:34,119 --> 00:56:37,760
Remember he's had a very weird trajectory. He's Slovakian, but

1111
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:41,119
he went and played in Sweden for a lot of

1112
00:56:41,119 --> 00:56:45,039
his development and then came to the OHL last season,

1113
00:56:45,119 --> 00:56:48,480
the previous season twenty three twenty four after starting in

1114
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:50,800
the SHL, and then this season he was primarily just

1115
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:52,679
in the AHL, so that was good for him. Hopefully

1116
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:55,519
had some consistency and he did well. Forty five points

1117
00:56:55,519 --> 00:56:57,440
and sixty one games pretty good. He even got into

1118
00:56:57,480 --> 00:56:59,920
a couple NHL games at the end of the sea

1119
00:57:00,159 --> 00:57:04,400
in which was good to see. But overall it was

1120
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:08,440
nice to see some sustained production in a very difficult

1121
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:12,280
league of the AHL for Divorski. Looking at his FHL

1122
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:14,840
player card for the AHL time, there's a lot of

1123
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:18,599
red here, and especially in the transition game and in

1124
00:57:18,639 --> 00:57:22,519
the play driving. His priffs also very low. Passing wasn't great,

1125
00:57:22,719 --> 00:57:25,000
so there's a lot of struggles here, even though there

1126
00:57:25,039 --> 00:57:27,159
was some decent production. And that's part of my concern

1127
00:57:27,199 --> 00:57:29,880
here is that his off puck play has continued to

1128
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:32,000
be a bit of a struggle for Divorski, and so

1129
00:57:32,119 --> 00:57:34,239
I'm not convinced that he's going to be able to

1130
00:57:34,239 --> 00:57:37,159
translate it as well. If he has others help him

1131
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:39,480
with transition game and get the puck in and help

1132
00:57:39,559 --> 00:57:41,519
set up, then he can be a good offensive player.

1133
00:57:41,519 --> 00:57:44,400
But he's not necessarily a driver, which is part of

1134
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:45,960
my concern and why I have him only at a

1135
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:48,320
six point seventy four. I do think he can be

1136
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:50,519
above average roster player, but I don't have him as

1137
00:57:50,519 --> 00:57:53,559
a seven or higher because of those off put concerns

1138
00:57:53,559 --> 00:57:56,199
and play driving. Let's hear a little bit more about

1139
00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:59,079
Divorski from our vigil scout Jesse.

1140
00:58:00,079 --> 00:58:03,079
Speaker 2: Mason Black the NHL ranking. Ooh, this is a heavyweight

1141
00:58:03,159 --> 00:58:08,840
match Dalla Boordowirsky against Quinton Musty. Victor. Quinn Musty loses

1142
00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:12,280
this one fifty eight to forty two percent. I like

1143
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:14,960
both of these guys, but I have a feeling you're

1144
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:15,679
gonna be surprised.

1145
00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:19,920
Speaker 3: I definitely like Musty better here, and so that's what

1146
00:58:20,039 --> 00:58:23,639
I'm going to take. It is interesting. I think that

1147
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:26,440
Divorski certainly has a lot of offense, but I like

1148
00:58:26,639 --> 00:58:29,199
Musty's play a little bit better. So, for one thing,

1149
00:58:29,239 --> 00:58:32,400
he definitely has more bash. He hits and blocks and

1150
00:58:32,559 --> 00:58:35,400
shoots a lot, and his play driving number is better

1151
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:37,719
in the OHL. We did see him a little bit

1152
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:39,360
in the AHL, so it's good to get a little

1153
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:41,679
bit of taste of that. But overall, I just believe

1154
00:58:41,679 --> 00:58:44,360
in Musty's telling a little bit better. Of course, there

1155
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:48,440
are concerns about space in the San Jose roster. I

1156
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:50,280
think Musty pushes his way up to at least be

1157
00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:52,480
a second liner, and he's someone who should get top

1158
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:55,159
power play looks, even though it's getting a little crowded

1159
00:58:55,199 --> 00:58:57,639
up there. But yeah, I definitely like Musty better, and

1160
00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:00,519
I really worry that Devorski is going to struggle with

1161
00:59:00,559 --> 00:59:03,480
some of these play driving things, whereas Musty he has

1162
00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:05,320
some of those concerns too, but I don't know that

1163
00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:08,800
it's as obvious. Yeah, I'm definitely going musty here. Looking

1164
00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:11,119
at some of the other comps for Delaware Divorce, Ki

1165
00:59:11,719 --> 00:59:14,199
Jakob Vorchuk is someone who looks a little bit alike.

1166
00:59:14,239 --> 00:59:16,920
That would be a good outcome, certainly Willie ny Lander,

1167
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:19,079
Theofleuri or some other ones. I don't think that his

1168
00:59:19,199 --> 00:59:22,920
upside is really quite that high. Looking at the Jfresh

1169
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:25,360
card for Divorceki twenty three percent chance of being a star,

1170
00:59:25,519 --> 00:59:28,239
ninety percent chance of being an NHL or so. Pretty

1171
00:59:28,239 --> 00:59:31,599
good confidence there from Jfresh. That's all from our for

1172
00:59:31,639 --> 00:59:33,519
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for I just started playing in a college fantasy football

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and get this college fantasy football. Now. The problem with

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that sport is guys get scratched in the last minute.

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You don't know it. So in that sport you can

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set it up to say, if somebody gets scratched, here

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is the guy who gets auto started in his place.

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It's a neat little quirk of college Fantasy Football. FHL

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is a team. I like to thank them, shout them

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out every episode. The tidy leagues are cruising along. I

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believe we've had our last one get through their dispersal draft.

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The rookie drafts will be out probably by the time

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that this show airs. They'll be kicking off. Timmy has

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been the master of ceremonies. Ryan Emo Crafts are all

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in there helping out making sure that things run. Tony

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and Patrick Carr leed scouts, Mike, Steven Matt help with

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the show prep these notes that we've got here. Brandon

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helps with the website, prospect ranks and visualizations. If you'd

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like to help the show, Victor can hear from you

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in discord, email, social media. We're also brought to you

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by Dauber Hockey and Dauber Prospects. Victor is an editor

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there and produces work. I do a solo show called

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Dynasty Sports Life. I talk about four different Dynasty sports

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over there, including a little bit of hockey, but a

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lot of philosophy things that might apply to hockey as

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well as everything else. Follow us on Socials, Jesse Severe

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and v one, Victor on Blue Sky and over on

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X Victor Nuno twelve and Fan Hockey Life. Rate us

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and review us. We'd love to hear from you. I

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think we're still doing the thing where you can get

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some Daber previews. Come see us, give us some ratings,

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01:01:55,519 --> 01:01:57,599
appreciate the love. It's that time of year to spread

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the love. Thank you for listening to everybody. Draft is

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coming soon. The season's coming sooner than you think. Until

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next time, keep living that bantasy hockey life.

