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<v Speaker 1>The reason I'm bringing this up. This is no scoop,

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<v Speaker 1>This is nothing like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I just wanted to throw it out there as like

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<v Speaker 2>a what if and just in case it happens, people go, oh, well, Travis,

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<v Speaker 2>it was honest all right.

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<v Speaker 1>Because it didn't happen after going Home.

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<v Speaker 2>But if everyone take themselves back twenty nineteen, Far from

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<v Speaker 2>Home comes out, ends on end credit, you know, Stinger

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<v Speaker 2>spider Man reveal, and then it goes on become the

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<v Speaker 2>first ever spier Man that makes a billion dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, and then a.

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<v Speaker 2>Few weeks later or whatever, Sony says, hey, we're down

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<v Speaker 2>with the Marvel partnership. Spider Man's gonna be back on

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<v Speaker 2>his own. I'm not saying that I think that's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>happen here, but I I think it is. Uh, I

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<v Speaker 2>would not be surprised.

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<v Speaker 1>I could just say, I fick.

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<v Speaker 2>I know for a fact there's gonna be somebody there

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<v Speaker 2>at Sony that's looking around going do we still need

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<v Speaker 2>them now? Granted could be a great partnership that they

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<v Speaker 2>still will continue. I can't remember what Marvel gets for

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<v Speaker 2>the money wise, and maybe it's enough for them. They go, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, if it's twenty five percent thirty that's fine,

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<v Speaker 2>you need to take that money. I don't even know

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<v Speaker 2>that's what it is. I'll have to lookal tears talking.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm just saying because they did it once, and

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<v Speaker 2>I feel, especially especially after Doomsday happens, and let's say

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<v Speaker 2>Spiermn beats Doomsday, I do think they're in a position

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<v Speaker 2>to just go, Hey, Aaryon loves Tom Holmes and Dad. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>I think technically they still have a contract because everyone

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<v Speaker 2>forgets far from Home was the end of that, and

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<v Speaker 2>then they were done the contract, right, they signed another

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<v Speaker 2>contract with Marvel. They did no way Home. That meant

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<v Speaker 2>they still owed Marvel one more right, so like a

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<v Speaker 2>like an appearance, that appearance never happened. That's happening in Doomsday,

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<v Speaker 2>which we think might be.

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<v Speaker 1>Toby and or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>We think it's Toby, so that's happening there. But then

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<v Speaker 2>people gotta remember is they did brand new Day, so

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<v Speaker 2>that means they are still old. Mcu is stone no bulloons.

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<v Speaker 2>Mcu is still owed one more Spiderman appearance, which I

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<v Speaker 2>imagine would be Secret Wars. So I'm saying, technically, I

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<v Speaker 2>think after Secret Wars, unless something gets signed between now

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<v Speaker 2>and then which they should, especially with Tom. I'm gonna say,

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<v Speaker 2>if Sony did not sign Tom to a multiple picture,

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<v Speaker 2>because everyone might forget this too after No Way Home,

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<v Speaker 2>he didn't have a contract. If he doesn't have a

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<v Speaker 2>contract after Brand New Day, Sony is gonna pay out

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<v Speaker 2>the ass to this fucking kid and MJ because like

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<v Speaker 2>it's just because like these like how can they not

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<v Speaker 2>go in there and ask for a raise after a

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<v Speaker 2>nearly billion dollar weekend? They have like Sony over a barrel.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm just saying, I'm very curious after Secret Wars,

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<v Speaker 2>once all the mcu inspierment contracts have all been paid

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<v Speaker 2>up and they're good to go, and if there's no contracts, Terry,

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<v Speaker 2>do you think there's a world where Sony could ever

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<v Speaker 2>get bold because one time they tried it and then

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<v Speaker 2>they backed off. Do you think in a world where

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<v Speaker 2>they have a Spider Man movie beat up Vengers movie,

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<v Speaker 2>let's say that does happen, do they look around and go,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what, I think we could do this without them?

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<v Speaker 2>Right now? You know, I think we could. We could

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<v Speaker 2>because all these I'm not saying they could, but they

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<v Speaker 2>at one point try to write after Far from when

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<v Speaker 2>they walked away and then they walked it back. But

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<v Speaker 2>do you think if we live in a world where

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<v Speaker 2>even if Spiderman beats one of those Avengers movies, do

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<v Speaker 2>you not think someone at Sony's like, well, like, do

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<v Speaker 2>we need to keep him around?

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<v Speaker 1>Can we not do this by ourselves? I don't say

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<v Speaker 1>what we think. I'm saying what they think?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh what do they think?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes?

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<v Speaker 3>I think that they would think that I really.

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<v Speaker 1>Do, because there's more money on the table if they

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<v Speaker 1>break away from Marble. Well, that's that's right.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's like if you're you know, you go to

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<v Speaker 3>your job, you're working for your boss, you know, you're

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<v Speaker 3>operating machines whatnot, and you realize, you know, I can

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<v Speaker 3>do this, and I could just startup my own company

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<v Speaker 3>doing what I do, and just like, why do I

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<v Speaker 3>gotta make money for my boss? I can make money

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<v Speaker 3>for myself. I've got Sony. Sony could just be like,

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<v Speaker 3>all right, Tom, here's a bunch of money. Let's, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>come side by side with Jared leto here and our

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<v Speaker 3>Morebus two movie.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think Jared was in the mornings too, but

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<v Speaker 1>I think so here's what it is. I forget to

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<v Speaker 1>say it.

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<v Speaker 2>So they they get twenty five percent in the process

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<v Speaker 2>of profits, and they co finance swimming five percent the

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<v Speaker 2>productions cost, so they do pay some into it. But

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<v Speaker 2>so Sony every time this movie coming out is cutting

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<v Speaker 2>twenty five percent of.

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<v Speaker 1>The check to Marble.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, in this money a billion to two billion

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<v Speaker 2>dollars twenty five percents a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>Going at it on your own means that you're going

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<v Speaker 3>to forego a lot of the connections here with these

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<v Speaker 3>other characters people, all of them. Yeah, people really love

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<v Speaker 3>seeing Spider Man involved with a pre established universe, right.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that cameo that he had in Civil War

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<v Speaker 3>was just the absolute best of the best that could

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<v Speaker 3>have done for him. So to go edit on their own,

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<v Speaker 3>eliminating all of that, I don't know. I feel like

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<v Speaker 3>Tom Hardy's Venom would have been more successful in the

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<v Speaker 3>MCU because if you just have him on his own,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I think that's a pretty good example of

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<v Speaker 3>just your Spider Man, you know, yeah, Sony Spider Man

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<v Speaker 3>kind of equivalent. So I just I just don't think

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<v Speaker 3>the juice is there for Sony to do it on

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<v Speaker 3>their own. I really don't, Or is he I think,

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<v Speaker 3>there you go, they got their their own Spider Man.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, So do you think let's play the scenario they

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<v Speaker 2>pull away and let's not talk about quality movie. We

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, and it doesn't matter because you have movies

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<v Speaker 2>like Minecraft making close to billion. Right, Let's say Cicar

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<v Speaker 2>Wars happens, Spider Man five rolls around, Marvel's are no

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<v Speaker 2>longer involved. Do you not think if it's just Spider Man,

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<v Speaker 2>if it's Tom Malins and Day or jacobat alone and

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<v Speaker 2>then versus some Spider Man villain, you don't think that

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<v Speaker 2>we can make a billion dollars? Oh, because here's my

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<v Speaker 2>argument here. Yeah, because my argument is far from home.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure you got Nick Fury in there, but I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think that's a big draw getting people. I think the

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<v Speaker 2>connection with the MSCU is, but the big draw of

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<v Speaker 2>that no no way home other than doctor Strange, which

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure in the Spider Man mythos you could find

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<v Speaker 2>some fucking magical character. All that nostalgia is Spider Man Sony,

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<v Speaker 2>it's Andrew Toby and their villains. Right with this, I

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<v Speaker 2>would argue, and I get it. They loaded it up right,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a characters there.

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<v Speaker 1>We won't talk about.

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<v Speaker 2>But still they got let's say, two other characters, and

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<v Speaker 2>then they got Punisher in Hulk. But I would still

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<v Speaker 2>argue that I don't think the GA is really like

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<v Speaker 2>Punisher in Hulk is like the defining like, oh, I

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<v Speaker 2>got to see Spider Man because of them, I believe.

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<v Speaker 1>More or so strange.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe more so on Iron Man, but I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think Punisher in Hulk. I think that's why you have

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<v Speaker 2>multiple MSU characters in this because we said before instead

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<v Speaker 2>of getting like one S tier, we're gonna give you

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<v Speaker 2>like two to three like B tier A tier one.

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<v Speaker 1>They kind of like stack up to that.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, So I think the way that's stat when I said,

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<v Speaker 2>what was the official number there, it was thirty nine

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<v Speaker 2>percent went for Tom Holan and twenty nine percent went

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<v Speaker 2>for Sendea.

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<v Speaker 1>So what is that to get?

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<v Speaker 2>That's that's over fifty percent of the people that are

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<v Speaker 2>just going for this couple. So and that's a good

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<v Speaker 2>thing if you do sperm in five. And I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want this to happened, Don't get me wrong, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want this happened.

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<v Speaker 1>One stick. Let's keep going, let's keep these connections going.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, but also too next year if everything goes to

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<v Speaker 2>plan or beyond, the Spider Verse comes out. We've said

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<v Speaker 2>before that that's clearly and Tomlin's talk about passing off

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<v Speaker 2>to Miles again, that's.

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<v Speaker 1>Something they don't need, Marvel.

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<v Speaker 2>Do they own Miles morause they don't have to do

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<v Speaker 2>figging stuff like that, right, So what I would say

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<v Speaker 2>if they were, if they paid me, Travis Nail would

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<v Speaker 2>be like, how do we make this work? I know

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<v Speaker 2>you don't want how do they make this work? Is

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<v Speaker 2>yet you pull away? And what you do is that

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<v Speaker 2>twenty five percent and it could be less, but twenty

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<v Speaker 2>five percent you have to pay Marvel. You just make

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<v Speaker 2>sure you go and get great writers and directors, get

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<v Speaker 2>a Philip Lord and Chris Miller or get whoever.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't just get like though.

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<v Speaker 2>It could be but like you, you could get somebody

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<v Speaker 2>right like you. There's people for that money wise, right,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe even Daniel doesn't Kredtin, we'll direct that movie for

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<v Speaker 2>if you pay them a big lumpsun. There's tons of

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<v Speaker 2>directors out there, right, So I'm not saying it's gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying I would not be surprised.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not pizza bit anybody but if we were to

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<v Speaker 2>ever wake up to the headline of yet Secret Wars,

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<v Speaker 2>last time Tom Hollins in the universe, I wouldn't be

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<v Speaker 2>surprised because they try to do and why wouldn't it

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<v Speaker 2>If they have the hot shit, have we beat one

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<v Speaker 2>of the Avengers movies, why would they not. I just

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<v Speaker 2>feel like they're gonna be exactly like, we can do

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<v Speaker 2>this without them.

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<v Speaker 1>We can make this money. We don't need them, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's where in a time where money can be

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<v Speaker 2>tough in box off, especially to me, especially if they

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<v Speaker 2>beat both Avengers movies. If we're in scenario where Spider

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<v Speaker 2>Man beats Doomsday and Secret Wars, then I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>in a in a big bind for them not to

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<v Speaker 2>pull the shoot and say, hey, let's go make more

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<v Speaker 2>money and get this out of here, you know. So

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<v Speaker 2>you know for sure, and at least with the MSU

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<v Speaker 2>they got F four, Now they got X Men, they

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't need them per se.

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<v Speaker 1>But uh yeah, uh, you know, we'll see.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not making a prediction, but I'm just saying it's

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<v Speaker 2>I'm very curious how we got to see how all

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<v Speaker 2>this plays out in the next little bit, and uh,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll kind of go from there, but let me pull

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