Speaker 1: The reason I'm bringing this up. This is no scoop,
Speaker 1: This is nothing like that.
Speaker 2: I just wanted to throw it out there as like
Speaker 2: a what if and just in case it happens, people go, oh, well, Travis,
Speaker 2: it was honest all right.
Speaker 1: Because it didn't happen after going Home.
Speaker 2: But if everyone take themselves back twenty nineteen, Far from
Speaker 2: Home comes out, ends on end credit, you know, Stinger
Speaker 2: spider Man reveal, and then it goes on become the
Speaker 2: first ever spier Man that makes a billion dollars.
Speaker 1: Right, and then a.
Speaker 2: Few weeks later or whatever, Sony says, hey, we're down
Speaker 2: with the Marvel partnership. Spider Man's gonna be back on
Speaker 2: his own. I'm not saying that I think that's gonna
Speaker 2: happen here, but I I think it is. Uh, I
Speaker 2: would not be surprised.
Speaker 1: I could just say, I fick.
Speaker 2: I know for a fact there's gonna be somebody there
Speaker 2: at Sony that's looking around going do we still need
Speaker 2: them now? Granted could be a great partnership that they
Speaker 2: still will continue. I can't remember what Marvel gets for
Speaker 2: the money wise, and maybe it's enough for them. They go, okay,
Speaker 2: you know, if it's twenty five percent thirty that's fine,
Speaker 2: you need to take that money. I don't even know
Speaker 2: that's what it is. I'll have to lookal tears talking.
Speaker 2: But I'm just saying because they did it once, and
Speaker 2: I feel, especially especially after Doomsday happens, and let's say
Speaker 2: Spiermn beats Doomsday, I do think they're in a position
Speaker 2: to just go, Hey, Aaryon loves Tom Holmes and Dad. Now,
Speaker 2: I think technically they still have a contract because everyone
Speaker 2: forgets far from Home was the end of that, and
Speaker 2: then they were done the contract, right, they signed another
Speaker 2: contract with Marvel. They did no way Home. That meant
Speaker 2: they still owed Marvel one more right, so like a
Speaker 2: like an appearance, that appearance never happened. That's happening in Doomsday,
Speaker 2: which we think might be.
Speaker 1: Toby and or whatever.
Speaker 2: We think it's Toby, so that's happening there. But then
Speaker 2: people gotta remember is they did brand new Day, so
Speaker 2: that means they are still old. Mcu is stone no bulloons.
Speaker 2: Mcu is still owed one more Spiderman appearance, which I
Speaker 2: imagine would be Secret Wars. So I'm saying, technically, I
Speaker 2: think after Secret Wars, unless something gets signed between now
Speaker 2: and then which they should, especially with Tom. I'm gonna say,
Speaker 2: if Sony did not sign Tom to a multiple picture,
Speaker 2: because everyone might forget this too after No Way Home,
Speaker 2: he didn't have a contract. If he doesn't have a
Speaker 2: contract after Brand New Day, Sony is gonna pay out
Speaker 2: the ass to this fucking kid and MJ because like
Speaker 2: it's just because like these like how can they not
Speaker 2: go in there and ask for a raise after a
Speaker 2: nearly billion dollar weekend? They have like Sony over a barrel.
Speaker 2: So I'm just saying, I'm very curious after Secret Wars,
Speaker 2: once all the mcu inspierment contracts have all been paid
Speaker 2: up and they're good to go, and if there's no contracts, Terry,
Speaker 2: do you think there's a world where Sony could ever
Speaker 2: get bold because one time they tried it and then
Speaker 2: they backed off. Do you think in a world where
Speaker 2: they have a Spider Man movie beat up Vengers movie,
Speaker 2: let's say that does happen, do they look around and go,
Speaker 2: you know what, I think we could do this without them?
Speaker 2: Right now? You know, I think we could. We could
Speaker 2: because all these I'm not saying they could, but they
Speaker 2: at one point try to write after Far from when
Speaker 2: they walked away and then they walked it back. But
Speaker 2: do you think if we live in a world where
Speaker 2: even if Spiderman beats one of those Avengers movies, do
Speaker 2: you not think someone at Sony's like, well, like, do
Speaker 2: we need to keep him around?
Speaker 1: Can we not do this by ourselves? I don't say
Speaker 1: what we think. I'm saying what they think?
Speaker 3: Oh what do they think?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 3: I think that they would think that I really.
Speaker 1: Do, because there's more money on the table if they
Speaker 1: break away from Marble. Well, that's that's right.
Speaker 3: And it's like if you're you know, you go to
Speaker 3: your job, you're working for your boss, you know, you're
Speaker 3: operating machines whatnot, and you realize, you know, I can
Speaker 3: do this, and I could just startup my own company
Speaker 3: doing what I do, and just like, why do I
Speaker 3: gotta make money for my boss? I can make money
Speaker 3: for myself. I've got Sony. Sony could just be like,
Speaker 3: all right, Tom, here's a bunch of money. Let's, you know,
Speaker 3: come side by side with Jared leto here and our
Speaker 3: Morebus two movie.
Speaker 1: I don't think Jared was in the mornings too, but
Speaker 1: I think so here's what it is. I forget to
Speaker 1: say it.
Speaker 2: So they they get twenty five percent in the process
Speaker 2: of profits, and they co finance swimming five percent the
Speaker 2: productions cost, so they do pay some into it. But
Speaker 2: so Sony every time this movie coming out is cutting
Speaker 2: twenty five percent of.
Speaker 1: The check to Marble.
Speaker 2: I mean, in this money a billion to two billion
Speaker 2: dollars twenty five percents a lot.
Speaker 3: Going at it on your own means that you're going
Speaker 3: to forego a lot of the connections here with these
Speaker 3: other characters people, all of them. Yeah, people really love
Speaker 3: seeing Spider Man involved with a pre established universe, right.
Speaker 3: I think that cameo that he had in Civil War
Speaker 3: was just the absolute best of the best that could
Speaker 3: have done for him. So to go edit on their own,
Speaker 3: eliminating all of that, I don't know. I feel like
Speaker 3: Tom Hardy's Venom would have been more successful in the
Speaker 3: MCU because if you just have him on his own,
Speaker 3: I mean, I think that's a pretty good example of
Speaker 3: just your Spider Man, you know, yeah, Sony Spider Man
Speaker 3: kind of equivalent. So I just I just don't think
Speaker 3: the juice is there for Sony to do it on
Speaker 3: their own. I really don't, Or is he I think,
Speaker 3: there you go, they got their their own Spider Man.
Speaker 2: Right, So do you think let's play the scenario they
Speaker 2: pull away and let's not talk about quality movie. We
Speaker 2: don't know, and it doesn't matter because you have movies
Speaker 2: like Minecraft making close to billion. Right, Let's say Cicar
Speaker 2: Wars happens, Spider Man five rolls around, Marvel's are no
Speaker 2: longer involved. Do you not think if it's just Spider Man,
Speaker 2: if it's Tom Malins and Day or jacobat alone and
Speaker 2: then versus some Spider Man villain, you don't think that
Speaker 2: we can make a billion dollars? Oh, because here's my
Speaker 2: argument here. Yeah, because my argument is far from home.
Speaker 2: Sure you got Nick Fury in there, but I don't
Speaker 2: think that's a big draw getting people. I think the
Speaker 2: connection with the MSCU is, but the big draw of
Speaker 2: that no no way home other than doctor Strange, which
Speaker 2: I'm sure in the Spider Man mythos you could find
Speaker 2: some fucking magical character. All that nostalgia is Spider Man Sony,
Speaker 2: it's Andrew Toby and their villains. Right with this, I
Speaker 2: would argue, and I get it. They loaded it up right,
Speaker 2: there's a characters there.
Speaker 1: We won't talk about.
Speaker 2: But still they got let's say, two other characters, and
Speaker 2: then they got Punisher in Hulk. But I would still
Speaker 2: argue that I don't think the GA is really like
Speaker 2: Punisher in Hulk is like the defining like, oh, I
Speaker 2: got to see Spider Man because of them, I believe.
Speaker 1: More or so strange.
Speaker 2: I believe more so on Iron Man, but I don't
Speaker 2: think Punisher in Hulk. I think that's why you have
Speaker 2: multiple MSU characters in this because we said before instead
Speaker 2: of getting like one S tier, we're gonna give you
Speaker 2: like two to three like B tier A tier one.
Speaker 1: They kind of like stack up to that.
Speaker 2: Right, So I think the way that's stat when I said,
Speaker 2: what was the official number there, it was thirty nine
Speaker 2: percent went for Tom Holan and twenty nine percent went
Speaker 2: for Sendea.
Speaker 1: So what is that to get?
Speaker 2: That's that's over fifty percent of the people that are
Speaker 2: just going for this couple. So and that's a good
Speaker 2: thing if you do sperm in five. And I don't
Speaker 2: want this to happened, Don't get me wrong, I don't
Speaker 2: want this happened.
Speaker 1: One stick. Let's keep going, let's keep these connections going.
Speaker 2: Yes, but also too next year if everything goes to
Speaker 2: plan or beyond, the Spider Verse comes out. We've said
Speaker 2: before that that's clearly and Tomlin's talk about passing off
Speaker 2: to Miles again, that's.
Speaker 1: Something they don't need, Marvel.
Speaker 2: Do they own Miles morause they don't have to do
Speaker 2: figging stuff like that, right, So what I would say
Speaker 2: if they were, if they paid me, Travis Nail would
Speaker 2: be like, how do we make this work? I know
Speaker 2: you don't want how do they make this work? Is
Speaker 2: yet you pull away? And what you do is that
Speaker 2: twenty five percent and it could be less, but twenty
Speaker 2: five percent you have to pay Marvel. You just make
Speaker 2: sure you go and get great writers and directors, get
Speaker 2: a Philip Lord and Chris Miller or get whoever.
Speaker 1: Don't just get like though.
Speaker 2: It could be but like you, you could get somebody
Speaker 2: right like you. There's people for that money wise, right,
Speaker 2: maybe even Daniel doesn't Kredtin, we'll direct that movie for
Speaker 2: if you pay them a big lumpsun. There's tons of
Speaker 2: directors out there, right, So I'm not saying it's gonna happen.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying I would not be surprised.
Speaker 2: I'm not pizza bit anybody but if we were to
Speaker 2: ever wake up to the headline of yet Secret Wars,
Speaker 2: last time Tom Hollins in the universe, I wouldn't be
Speaker 2: surprised because they try to do and why wouldn't it
Speaker 2: If they have the hot shit, have we beat one
Speaker 2: of the Avengers movies, why would they not. I just
Speaker 2: feel like they're gonna be exactly like, we can do
Speaker 2: this without them.
Speaker 1: We can make this money. We don't need them, you know.
Speaker 2: And that's where in a time where money can be
Speaker 2: tough in box off, especially to me, especially if they
Speaker 2: beat both Avengers movies. If we're in scenario where Spider
Speaker 2: Man beats Doomsday and Secret Wars, then I think it's
Speaker 2: in a in a big bind for them not to
Speaker 2: pull the shoot and say, hey, let's go make more
Speaker 2: money and get this out of here, you know. So
Speaker 2: you know for sure, and at least with the MSU
Speaker 2: they got F four, Now they got X Men, they
Speaker 2: wouldn't need them per se.
Speaker 1: But uh yeah, uh, you know, we'll see.
Speaker 2: I'm not making a prediction, but I'm just saying it's
Speaker 2: I'm very curious how we got to see how all
Speaker 2: this plays out in the next little bit, and uh,
Speaker 2: we'll kind of go from there, but let me pull
Speaker 2: up