1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:04,080 Speaker 1: This is Jason Kosla, and you are listening to the Surely, Surely, 2 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:16,839 Surely you Can't Be Serious Podcast. Hello everybody, and welcome 3 00:00:16,879 --> 00:00:20,039 back to the Surely you Can't Be Serious Podcast Special 4 00:00:20,199 --> 00:00:23,160 Edition five Minutes of Fire. We are here talking about 5 00:00:23,359 --> 00:00:26,519 the lyrics of We Didn't Start the Fire by Billy Joel. 6 00:00:26,559 --> 00:00:28,879 We're covering only five minutes at a time, which is 7 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:30,559 about to link with the song, so it works out 8 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:33,359 kind of nicely. So please join us as we dive 9 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:36,039 into some new lyrics today. 10 00:00:36,079 --> 00:00:38,119 Speaker 2: All right, guys, so here are the topics that we're 11 00:00:38,119 --> 00:00:42,359 going to be covering today. California baseball, stark weather, homicide, 12 00:00:42,679 --> 00:00:53,880 children of thlidamide. All right, date, tell me about California baseball. 13 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: Okay, So before the nineteen fifties, Major League Baseball was 14 00:00:58,119 --> 00:00:59,840 just in the eastern part of the country. There were 15 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:04,879 professional teams West of Saint Louis. Several cities had two teams. 16 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:07,200 New York had three. They had the Giants, they had 17 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:10,040 the Yankees, they had the Dodgers, but the Dodgers stadium, 18 00:01:10,079 --> 00:01:13,920 Ebbitts Field, was deteriorating. People had moved to the suburbs 19 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:16,280 and they didn't want to travel back into Brooklyn to 20 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:20,280 watch night games, and so he was trying to get 21 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:23,280 a new stadium built in Brooklyn, but public building and 22 00:01:23,359 --> 00:01:28,280 developments are named Robert Moses was preventing him from doing that, guess, 23 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:30,719 and there was a little money that wasn't being exchanged 24 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:34,760 the way mister Moses wanted it to be exchanged. And so, 25 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:38,400 in an effort to bring Major League Baseball to the West, 26 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:42,560 a Chamber of Converse member from Los Angeles named Roslind 27 00:01:42,599 --> 00:01:45,959 Wyman was talking to multiple clubs to see if they 28 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:49,799 would move out to California. So Wyman decided to meet 29 00:01:49,959 --> 00:01:53,840 with the owner of the Washington Centers named Calvin Griffith 30 00:01:53,959 --> 00:01:58,040 at the nineteen fifty six World Series. Well, Walter O'Malley, 31 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:00,519 owner of the Dodgers at the time, who who wasn't 32 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:03,400 able to get a location for his new stadium, heard 33 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:05,760 that she was meeting with him, and so he said, Hey, 34 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:07,760 how about you talk to me, And he said it 35 00:02:07,799 --> 00:02:09,840 was really important to him that he have a new stadium, 36 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:12,719 and Wyman, without any talking to anybody, said sure, no problem, 37 00:02:12,719 --> 00:02:14,879 we can get that done. He was just going to 38 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:17,560 use this as a negotiation tactic to get what he 39 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:21,159 wanted in Brooklyn, but Robert Moses wouldn't bend, and so 40 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:23,280 finally he realized, the only way I'm going to get 41 00:02:23,319 --> 00:02:25,400 a new stadium is if I move out to la 42 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:28,560 and so that is what they did. Was very successful 43 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:31,479 for them. They the very next year won the nineteen 44 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:34,400 fifty nine World Series. And he had a poor little 45 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:38,000 buddy named Horace Stoneham, who owned the New York Giants, 46 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:40,120 a team that was probably third in the lineup as 47 00:02:40,159 --> 00:02:42,800 far as New York teams were concerned, who was suffering 48 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:46,120 the same problem, had a dilapidated field, nobody was coming 49 00:02:46,159 --> 00:02:49,719 to the games. So Walter O'Malley met the governor of 50 00:02:49,759 --> 00:02:51,840 San Francisco and said, hey, you know what, I got 51 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:53,520 a buddy who I think you should talk to. And 52 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:56,639 then a short time after that, Giants moved from New 53 00:02:56,719 --> 00:02:59,840 York to San Francisco, California. Baseball love it. Jason wo 54 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,800 Can you tell me about stark Weather homicide? All right? 55 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:06,479 Speaker 2: So, Charles Starkweather was an American spree killer who murdered 56 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:09,919 eleven people in Nebraska and Wyoming between get this, November 57 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:12,960 of nineteen fifty seven. In January of nineteen fifty eight, 58 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:15,439 very short amount of time. He was nineteen years old 59 00:03:15,439 --> 00:03:16,919 when he was doing this. By the way, he was 60 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:20,560 accompanied by his girlfriend, Carol Ann Fugate, who was fourteen 61 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:21,280 years old. 62 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 1: Oh the gosh. 63 00:03:22,199 --> 00:03:24,599 Speaker 2: He was known initially to be bullied in high school 64 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:27,840 in elementary school before he actually said forget this. I'll 65 00:03:27,879 --> 00:03:29,639 tell what I'm going to be the bully now. He 66 00:03:29,719 --> 00:03:33,120 was known for walking around town being very angry, very bitter, 67 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:35,360 very tough. If you were kind of a big shot 68 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:37,840 football player, whatever, and you had it going good, he'd 69 00:03:37,879 --> 00:03:40,840 just beat up just because. His first murder occurred on 70 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:43,159 November the thirtieth, nineteen fifty seven, when he killed a 71 00:03:43,199 --> 00:03:46,840 gas station attendant for almost no reason. January twenty first, 72 00:03:46,919 --> 00:03:48,840 nineteen fifty eight, he showed up at the few Gates 73 00:03:48,919 --> 00:03:52,000 home and was told to leave by her mother and stepfather, 74 00:03:52,159 --> 00:03:55,479 so he then killed them and her two year old sister. 75 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:57,719 From there, he went on an interstate killing spree with 76 00:03:57,879 --> 00:04:00,400 Carol Anne Fugate. Now then, was she kidnap? Does she 77 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:03,120 go voluntarily? Was she part of the killing spree? He 78 00:04:03,199 --> 00:04:06,039 was captured in a high speed chase January twenty ninth, 79 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:08,439 nineteen fifty eight. He was executed on June twenty fifth, 80 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:11,719 nineteen fifty nine, Caroline Fugate was actually sentenced to life 81 00:04:11,759 --> 00:04:15,759 in prison. These two are mentioned or referenced in Bruce 82 00:04:15,759 --> 00:04:19,639 Springsteen's Nebraska true romance Natural Born Killers and I would 83 00:04:19,639 --> 00:04:20,560 say even pulp fiction. 84 00:04:20,639 --> 00:04:20,879 Speaker 1: Wow. 85 00:04:20,959 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 2: During that high speed chase, Charles stark Weather was shot 86 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:25,399 and he thought he was going to bleed to death, 87 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:27,959 and that's why he stopped. And the officer on duty said, 88 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:29,720 that's the kind of yellow son of a bitch that 89 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:33,720 he is. Do you tell me about children of the Litamide? 90 00:04:33,959 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 1: Okay, Jason, have you ever been a pregnant woman before? 91 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:40,680 Not yet. I'm hopeful though. Well, as it turns out, 92 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:43,560 when you're pregnant, you have nausea that they call a 93 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:47,160 morning sickness, and you have trouble sleeping. Yeah. Well, the 94 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:49,759 company that made the litamide said, hey, we've got the 95 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:52,199 solution for you pregnant women. We have this new drug 96 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:55,439 called the litamide that helps you with your morning sickness 97 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:58,040 and helps you be able to sleep. Unfortunately, this company 98 00:04:58,079 --> 00:05:01,600 did not adequately test the drug before they released it 99 00:05:01,639 --> 00:05:05,040 to the masses, and then between nineteen fifty seven and 100 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:09,160 nineteen sixty two, children of the Women who took thlidamide 101 00:05:09,519 --> 00:05:14,879 during pregnancy were born with severe deformities, including only stubs 102 00:05:15,079 --> 00:05:18,560 for arms. Some people referred to them as the flipper babies. 103 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:21,680 Because of this tragedy, the drug was taken off the 104 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:26,199 market in nineteen sixty two. Of the ten thousand children 105 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:30,600 born with birth defects, only half of them lived beyond childhood. Okay, guys, 106 00:05:30,639 --> 00:05:32,879 that does it for today's episode. Join us next time 107 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:35,839 for five minutes of fire.