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<v Speaker 1>It's night time with Dan Ray on Delli Fleazy Boston

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks very much, Dan, As we move into the third

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<v Speaker 2>hour here, this is sort of halfway through the week.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm off on Friday night, so I will be with

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<v Speaker 2>you tomorrow night, and then I will be here for

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<v Speaker 2>the next two weeks, beginning again on Monday night. We

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<v Speaker 2>will have our great friends the admissions director of Harvard

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<v Speaker 2>and Boston College, Bill Fitzimmons of Harvard and Grant Goslin

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<v Speaker 2>of Boston College. And as I said, if any of

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<v Speaker 2>you have either children, grandchildren, neighbors, children, members of your

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<v Speaker 2>extended family who are thinking about applying to colleges, if

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<v Speaker 2>they're freshman, sophomores, and juniors, now is the time. This

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<v Speaker 2>is an opportunity for them. On Monday night, December ninth,

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<v Speaker 2>to listen to two veteran college admissions directors Means of Admission,

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<v Speaker 2>and they will answer questions from students and parents. So

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<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of information to absorb. It's like drinking

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<v Speaker 2>from a fire hose. If it's the first time you

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<v Speaker 2>have a child in your family applying to college, it's

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<v Speaker 2>a staggering responsibility. And Bill Fitzsimmons and Grant Goslin, do

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<v Speaker 2>give us the time. Bill fitz Simmons, particularly, We've done

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<v Speaker 2>this show for eighteen years every year here on Night Side,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's been a trooper for us. Grant Goslin, after

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<v Speaker 2>John Mahoney was elevated from the Dean of Admissions at

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<v Speaker 2>Boston College to Provot, Grant has been Mahoney's replacement and

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<v Speaker 2>he's done just as great a job as John Mahoney did.

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<v Speaker 2>So again, this is an opportunity for students to call

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<v Speaker 2>in parents, grandparents, just get the word out to your family.

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<v Speaker 2>This is really appointment radio listening on Monday night at

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<v Speaker 2>eight o'clock December ninth. And also if you are involved

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<v Speaker 2>in a chair and it has to be a legitimate charity,

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't have to be a five oh one C three,

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<v Speaker 2>it's nice if it is. We've already booked several for

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<v Speaker 2>our end of the year program, the night Side Charity Combine,

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<v Speaker 2>which will be on Friday night, December twentieth. It's amazing

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<v Speaker 2>how many people in our community and beyond are doing

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<v Speaker 2>such great work, volunteering their time, volunteering their skills to

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<v Speaker 2>help others, and it could be it's just such a

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<v Speaker 2>wide variety, the tapestry of charities that exist private charities.

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<v Speaker 2>We're not talking about the government here, we're talking about

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<v Speaker 2>private charities. And we love to highlight and focus. So

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<v Speaker 2>if you're involved in a charity, have whoever's the head

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<v Speaker 2>of your charity, give us a call. Rob can give

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<v Speaker 2>you my direct line. He'll give you Marita's direct line.

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<v Speaker 2>Marita is very easy to reach during the day. She'll

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<v Speaker 2>be available at seven eight one three five zero one

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<v Speaker 2>seven two six. You can email me at Dan Ray

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<v Speaker 2>at iHeartMedia spelled the lot then correctly we will line

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<v Speaker 2>you up. I was talking today to Ian Fidrich, the

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<v Speaker 2>widow of the great Major League pitcher Mark Fidrich from Massachusetts,

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<v Speaker 2>whose career was cut short and who lost his life

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<v Speaker 2>at a very early age. But in Mark's memory, they

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<v Speaker 2>do a program in central Massachusetts to provide baseball equipment

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<v Speaker 2>to kids who otherwise might not be able to afford it.

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<v Speaker 2>A wonderful charity and they will be highlighted on the

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<v Speaker 2>night of December twentieth. Then your charity can be as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Just let us know. We need like a daytime phone

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<v Speaker 2>number so I can call someone during the day and

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<v Speaker 2>tell them what time they'll be on. No travel is involved.

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<v Speaker 2>We used to do it at the iHeart studio in

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<v Speaker 2>Medford or at the CBSWBZ studio over on soldiers Field Road,

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<v Speaker 2>but this is not done all remotely via telephone. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to talk about a very interesting comment that

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<v Speaker 2>President elect Trump made on Monday. This is a story

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<v Speaker 2>I'm quoting from out of the New York Times. He

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<v Speaker 2>was writing on truth Social without naming any militant group.

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<v Speaker 2>Mister Trump said in his post quote, if the hostages

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<v Speaker 2>are not released prior to January twentieth, twenty twenty five,

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<v Speaker 2>and not of course, of the day that he will

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<v Speaker 2>be inaugurated, the date that I probably assume office as

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<v Speaker 2>President of the United States, there will be all caps now,

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<v Speaker 2>all hell to pay in the Middle East, and for

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<v Speaker 2>those in charge who perpetrated these atrocities against humanity. Those

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<v Speaker 2>responsible will be hit harder than anybody has been hit

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<v Speaker 2>in the long and storied history of the United States

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<v Speaker 2>of America. Caps full caps, Release the hostages. Now. We

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<v Speaker 2>started off with about two hundred and fifty hostages or

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<v Speaker 2>aptured by the Hamas led attack. Quoting now from an

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<v Speaker 2>article from Ephret Livney. According to Israeli authorities. There are

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<v Speaker 2>now about one hundred they believe who are still alive

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<v Speaker 2>and in custody of Hamas. So I want to know

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<v Speaker 2>from you, whether you are a Trump supporter or you

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<v Speaker 2>voted for one of his opponents in the last election,

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<v Speaker 2>what do you think of this? He really has laid

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<v Speaker 2>down a challenge to Hamas. If Hamas decides to release

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<v Speaker 2>the hostages in advance of his inauguration, as Iran did

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<v Speaker 2>before Ronald Reagan took office in nineteen eighty one, it

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<v Speaker 2>would be a big political victory for Donald Trump. If

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<v Speaker 2>Hamas does not, then the question is what does Donald

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<v Speaker 2>Trump do because he obviously you don't make a threat,

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<v Speaker 2>a threat of that magnitude without being prepared to follow

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<v Speaker 2>through on it. So I'd love to know what you think.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a It kind of came out of the blue.

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<v Speaker 2>We're involved in well two right now world hotspots Israel

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<v Speaker 2>the Middle East, no question, Hesblah. I think has been defanged.

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<v Speaker 2>Hamas has been defanged. But Hamas holds hostages. That is

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<v Speaker 2>the one card they have left to play. It will

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<v Speaker 2>be interesting to see what is done by President Trump

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<v Speaker 2>if the hostages are not released. If they are released,

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<v Speaker 2>it will be a brilliant stroke. If they're not released,

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<v Speaker 2>then the question becomes, Okay, mister president, you are now president.

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<v Speaker 2>You threatened some pretty serious reprisal. What are you going

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<v Speaker 2>to do? What do you think Donald Trump will do?

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<v Speaker 2>And do you think the hostages will be released? The

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<v Speaker 2>other hot spot around the world, well, at this point

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<v Speaker 2>remains Ukraine, the Ukraine Russian War, which Donald Trump says

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<v Speaker 2>he can have an influence in ending those hostilities. At

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<v Speaker 2>the same time, now we have a crisis brewing in

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<v Speaker 2>South Korea. God knows what designs China has on Taiwan.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>He's inheriting some pretty serious problems around the world from

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<v Speaker 2>the Biden administration, and I think we are We're in

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<v Speaker 2>for some interesting times. I'm going to take a break.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to open up the phone lines six one, seven, two, five,

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<v Speaker 2>four ten thirty. Three lines are open there. I have

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<v Speaker 2>ten thirty. What do you think about Donald Trump's statement?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it bravado? I mean, it's it puts him out

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<v Speaker 2>there on a limb. If the hostages are not released,

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<v Speaker 2>then what card does he play again? He's saying that

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<v Speaker 2>they will be hit harder than anybody has been hit

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<v Speaker 2>in the long and storied history of the United States

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<v Speaker 2>of America. Released the hostages. Now, I pray that Hamas

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<v Speaker 2>does the right thing and releases the hostages. But I

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<v Speaker 2>fear that many of the hostages have passed already, and

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<v Speaker 2>the ones that do remain, I'm not sure Hamas will

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<v Speaker 2>give them up because after that, what happens to Hamas.

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<v Speaker 2>It's complicated. You have the numbers six one, seven, two, five,

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<v Speaker 2>four ten thirty is the only line now where there

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<v Speaker 2>are some open lines at six seven, two, four ten thirty.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's get it going here. I think we are going

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<v Speaker 2>to have a very dramatic change in administrations, whether you've

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<v Speaker 2>voted for Donald Trump or not, and a dramatic change

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<v Speaker 2>in the posture that we as a country will be

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<v Speaker 2>taking around the world. Will we will probably adopt a

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<v Speaker 2>different posture in regards to Ukraine, and we certainly, I

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<v Speaker 2>think will adopt a stronger posture in terms of Israel

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<v Speaker 2>in the Middle East. Back on Nightside, right after this

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<v Speaker 2>very quick break, let's open up those phone lines.

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<v Speaker 1>Rob Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window

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<v Speaker 1>World Nightside Studios on WBZ News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're talking about Donald President elect. Donald Trump's threat

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<v Speaker 2>to hamas very simple, release the hostages. They'll be all

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<v Speaker 2>hell to pay. Those responses will be hit harder than

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<v Speaker 2>anybody's been hit in the long and storied history of

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<v Speaker 2>the United States of America. Released the hostages. Now, all caps,

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<v Speaker 2>let's go to Marty. Marty, your reaction to the to

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<v Speaker 2>the president's challenge, his ultimatum. I guess we could call

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<v Speaker 2>it what's your thoughts?

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<v Speaker 4>Well?

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<v Speaker 5>All two things. One, I hope he's going to do it.

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<v Speaker 5>And it reminds me of when Muhammar Kadafi, who I

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<v Speaker 5>feel sorry for what happened at the end when he

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<v Speaker 5>told the United States this is the Gulf of Sidra,

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<v Speaker 5>this is red the line of death. If you cross it,

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<v Speaker 5>we're going to kick your butt. Ronald Reagan sent in

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<v Speaker 5>some forces and kicked his butt. So it's reminiscent of that.

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<v Speaker 5>I hope that Donald Trump is going to do it.

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<v Speaker 5>I will say one thing to be fair, I remember

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<v Speaker 5>in his first term he made some sort of a

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<v Speaker 5>threat about Iran and he didn't come through. Now, as

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<v Speaker 5>a former cop in the street, we call that wolf tickets.

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<v Speaker 5>When you say something and don't produce. I would like

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<v Speaker 5>for Donald Trump to produce, and if he does, all

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<v Speaker 5>of us will benefit. Also, what I'd like for him

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<v Speaker 5>to do is a little bit of an extra is

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<v Speaker 5>take care of the hooties because they're they're making us

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<v Speaker 5>take little sissies and they're attacking ships and doing nothing

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<v Speaker 5>about it. And then let me tell you a parenthetical note.

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<v Speaker 5>Are you familiar with that? In the sixties it was

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<v Speaker 2>I believe, so I probably don't recall, so.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean the more historian anyway, So I hope that

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<v Speaker 5>Donald Trump will do it. It sounds very good, and

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<v Speaker 5>he's just doing it because it has to be done,

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<v Speaker 5>because those the the Hamas, they're not they're not doing

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<v Speaker 5>good things they're doing they're not just they're not nice.

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<v Speaker 2>We agree Hamas is horrible. My question is if they now.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember the the the Reagan inauguration. I was supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to cover that for wv's Channel four, and at that

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<v Speaker 2>point they released the Iranian hostages after four hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>forty four days, and I ended up going to Wisbad

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<v Speaker 2>in West Germany to to find the mass There a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of Massachusetts hostages. They're Bill Key. Oh and there

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<v Speaker 2>was also a fellow who had really I think been

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<v Speaker 2>a CIA operative, sadly died in an automobile accident back

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<v Speaker 2>here in mass Issusetts a few years later. What do

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<v Speaker 2>you think Trump will do? I mean, he's he's he's

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<v Speaker 2>he's leveled a threat. It's when you level that threat,

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<v Speaker 2>you got to follow through. I think if and.

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<v Speaker 5>Let me just say also as a former military, two

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<v Speaker 5>year veteran of the army, I think that if he

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<v Speaker 5>does decide to take action, real action, the military will

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<v Speaker 5>love it. The military will love it because they will

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<v Speaker 5>be motivated to go in and do something to attack

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<v Speaker 5>the bad guys. So I hope he doesn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you do you? I don't think that he is

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<v Speaker 2>going to send US troops in there.

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<v Speaker 5>No, yeah, Singly, the war has been fought by airstrikes

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<v Speaker 5>and by drones.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, and then I mean that Hamas has been pulverized

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<v Speaker 2>u by by air attack. The other thing too, is

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<v Speaker 2>from Hamas's point of view. And I'm not a Hamask

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<v Speaker 2>guy at all, as you know. No, why would they

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<v Speaker 2>release the hostages? First of all, they should release the

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<v Speaker 2>hostages on a humanitarian ground. But they don't have any

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<v Speaker 2>humanity within them. They are looking at their hostages as

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<v Speaker 2>they get out of jail card I mean, they're they're

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<v Speaker 5>I hear what you're saying. But if you look at

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<v Speaker 5>somebody will prevail and say, listen, let's give them up,

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<v Speaker 5>because holding them is not going to do any good.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely good. Agree with him more, Marty. Appreciate your callers always.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, I want to ask you, are you

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<v Speaker 2>still there, Marty? Yes, yeah, very quickly. I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to change topics here, but as a former police officer

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<v Speaker 2>United Healthcare. How tough is it going to be, in

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<v Speaker 2>your opinion, to capture that assailant who seemed to have

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<v Speaker 5>Was, Well, it sounds it sounds like it was a

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<v Speaker 2>He dropped a few three times, and.

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<v Speaker 5>He dropped some bullets. So the city, this is a

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<v Speaker 2>So I he's gonna be look, unless he's going to

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<v Speaker 2>to be on camera in most major cities. And there's

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<v Speaker 2>Hopefully now they can pick him up.

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<v Speaker 5>At some We think we think over here that it

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<v Speaker 7>Or something like that.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't think it's going to be anything intrigued, like

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, I'm close to closer to you to where

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<v Speaker 2>you're thinking. Mardy. I appreciate eat you call.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you very much, Thanks for the respect. Thank you, babai, welcome,

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<v Speaker 5>good night.

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<v Speaker 2>Six one seven, two, five, four to ten thirty, triple

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<v Speaker 2>coming up. We'll get to them, I promise, and we'll

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<v Speaker 2>get to you. All you have to do is call

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<v Speaker 2>six one, seven, two, five four ten thirty or six one, seven,

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<v Speaker 2>nine three one ten thirty. Donald Trump on Monday, on

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<v Speaker 2>his social media account, essentially said to Hamas, release the

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<v Speaker 2>hostages before I come prepp, before he becomes president, and

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<v Speaker 2>if the hostages are not released, he will hit Hamas

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<v Speaker 2>harder than any group. Let me quote his words here

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<v Speaker 2>just to set this up. He basically said, release the

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<v Speaker 2>hostages now, capital letters those responsible without mentioning Hamas, that's

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<v Speaker 2>what he's talking about, will be hit harder than anybody

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<v Speaker 2>has been hit in the long and storied history of

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<v Speaker 2>the United States of America. Will be all hell to

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<v Speaker 2>pay in the Middle East. So you don't issue a

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<v Speaker 2>threat like that unless you intend to follow up, assuming

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<v Speaker 2>the other side does not comply with the threat. The

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's a good development for Israel. As you know,

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<v Speaker 2>So but I but again, you issue a threat, it's

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<v Speaker 2>like drawing the line. You know, you cross this line. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>you've crossed that line. Let's move a little further. What

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<v Speaker 2>about this line now? I think with Donald Trump, people

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<v Speaker 2>have to take action. My question is what do you

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<v Speaker 2>think it'll be Back on Nightside, fill up these phone lines,

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<v Speaker 2>coming back right after the news at the bottom of

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<v Speaker 2>the hour on a chili Wednesday night early Well, it's

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<v Speaker 2>late fall, actually it's a wind. It's a late fall

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<v Speaker 1>Nights Side with Dan Ray, I'm WBZ Boston's news radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Back to the phones, you go, let me go to

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<v Speaker 2>Gene and averteen. You're next on Nightside. We're talking about

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<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump's threat against Tomas. Go ahead, Gene, Hi.

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<v Speaker 3>Dan, Yes, I'm glad you're talking about this. I'm so

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<v Speaker 3>tired of this not being being acknowledged on a daily

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<v Speaker 3>basis out there in the news and through politicians and

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<v Speaker 3>Washington and everything else. I'm just so tired of not

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<v Speaker 3>hearing about these hostages. I mean, come on, this is

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<v Speaker 3>so ridiculous. Something has to be done, and I think

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<v Speaker 3>Donald Trump is the one to do it. Where I

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<v Speaker 3>grew up, it was a very very tough area, and

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<v Speaker 3>I know when things went wrong and people were bothered,

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<v Speaker 3>there was either an uncle or an aunt or our

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<v Speaker 3>cousin or someone who would take care of the matter

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<v Speaker 3>and would never happen again. Donald Trump's that guy. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>telling you. I feel that he's that guy, because you

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<v Speaker 3>know what these Hamas did to these kids who were

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<v Speaker 3>only at a concert and their families, and it was

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<v Speaker 3>the most horrible, horrific. I mean, just like so inhumane

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<v Speaker 3>and animalistic what they did that they need to be

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<v Speaker 2>They don't. Let's assume they released the hostages. If they

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<v Speaker 2>released the hostages, it is a tremendous victory, a tremendous

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<v Speaker 2>victory for president then it would be President Trump, or

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<v Speaker 2>if they release him before he becomes president, for President Electrum.

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<v Speaker 2>If they decide not to release the hostages, what do

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<v Speaker 3>Then Well, I think they'll they'll they'll have hell to pay.

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<v Speaker 3>I think they will be hell to pay for these hamas.

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<v Speaker 3>There's going to be hell to pay these poor hostages.

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<v Speaker 3>We can only imagine how their daily life have been

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<v Speaker 3>if they're still alive and can even function. And I

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<v Speaker 3>wish the families would not pose, not put the pictures

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<v Speaker 3>up of their sons and daughters any longer, because I

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<v Speaker 3>feel like as soon as the amass sees that recognizable faith,

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<v Speaker 3>they last time that was done, they killed that poor

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<v Speaker 3>hostage because the parents wanted him released. Don't show your

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<v Speaker 3>kids' pictures anymore, because to me, it pinpoints that, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Well they have the hostages in their custody. At the

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<v Speaker 2>same time, I'm sure that that the parents are re

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of advice and guidance from our State Department,

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<v Speaker 2>from the government of Israel, and I'm sure they're doing

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<v Speaker 3>Best I know. I just feel I just feel don't

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<v Speaker 3>make it worse for the parents, they killed the kid

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<v Speaker 3>the next day. They did it the last time. It

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<v Speaker 3>was terrible. I can't take it. I do want Trump

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<v Speaker 3>to do something. Somebody has to finally. Thank you, Dan,

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<v Speaker 3>have a good evening you too.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me go next to Will on Long Island. Will

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<v Speaker 2>welcome back. How are you sure?

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<v Speaker 7>Hey, Dan, How's how's your holiday?

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<v Speaker 2>Had a great holiday? I hope you did as well.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I had a pretty good time. And I went

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<v Speaker 7>to Bermuda, I went to North Carolina. I did a

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<v Speaker 7>few things. The past couple of weeks. I haven't spoken to him.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, So you were surprising billion Americans whatever the number

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<v Speaker 2>was who were traveling air travel. Well, that was only

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<v Speaker 2>three million of you doing air travel. But that's still

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<v Speaker 7>Go right ahead, So I I think. I think, first off,

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<v Speaker 7>it starts with massive pressure on Iran, an increased presence

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<v Speaker 7>in the Persian Gulf and the Straight of hor moves

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<v Speaker 7>one that's pressured through all of this. Okay, and I

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<v Speaker 7>think I would you know, I Marty had a great call,

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<v Speaker 7>but I would disagree that, you know, we didn't do

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<v Speaker 7>wherever he is now. I would also say that, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>Iran is obviously the funder of all of this. Iran

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<v Speaker 7>is a state sponsor of terrorism. Iran has called for

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<v Speaker 7>the death of Israel for decades at this point in

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<v Speaker 7>the United States, I think that in September, Trump also

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<v Speaker 7>said what he said, will bomb them to smithereens. And

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<v Speaker 7>I believe even if they had threatened the life of

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<v Speaker 7>Joe Biden, if Joe Biden were the former president, Donald

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<v Speaker 7>Trump would stand steadfast and say this thing. I'm not

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<v Speaker 7>sure that this is political. This is in November of

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<v Speaker 7>twenty twenty, after the election, I posted on my Facebook page,

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<v Speaker 7>I said, weak American leadership is not only a detriment

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<v Speaker 7>to the United States, it's a detriment to the entire world.

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<v Speaker 7>And then not because I had a crystal ball, because

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, and back, let's leave that aside. Let's focus on

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<v Speaker 2>the hostages, Donald Trump puts his hand to the Bible

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<v Speaker 2>sworn in, and the hostages is still held by Hamas.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you think President Trump does? I mean, I

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<v Speaker 2>know you talked about putting economic pressure, but the language

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<v Speaker 2>would suggest that there was going to be a direct

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<v Speaker 2>response against those I can quote it for you. You

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<v Speaker 2>probably know as well as I do. He's saying those

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<v Speaker 2>be responsible will be hit harder than anybody's been hit

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<v Speaker 2>Do you represent? Do you think that means Iran as

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<v Speaker 2>opposed to homage.

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<v Speaker 7>Let's use the words responsible. There are a couple parties responsible.

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<v Speaker 7>It's not just TOAMAS, you know, it's also the funders

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<v Speaker 7>of TAMAS, and we know who they are. So the

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<v Speaker 7>people responsible, I'm sure as his administration on folds, are

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<v Speaker 7>also going to have health to pay, and I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 7>be surprised. I disagree with Marty a little bit. The

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<v Speaker 7>I wouldn't be surprised to see our drone operators and

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<v Speaker 7>against the I asked the question.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's why I asked that question, Okay, And I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>the will be hell all hell to pay the Middle

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<v Speaker 2>East and for those in charge who perpetrated these atrocities

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<v Speaker 2>against humanity. That sounds more like AMAS. Okay, those responsible

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<v Speaker 2>Released the hostages now, So if the first represents those

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<v Speaker 2>who perpetrated the atrocities are hamas and those responsible are around. Look,

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<v Speaker 2>we drop two nuclear weapons, two atomic weapons on Japan

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<v Speaker 2>in nineteen forty five.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, we know that Trump is We know that Trump

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<v Speaker 7>is bombastic. And if we think about the hell that

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<v Speaker 7>the United States has unleashed on its enemies. Yes, I

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<v Speaker 7>find it hard to believe we're going to do anything

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<v Speaker 7>more drastic than the two atomic bombs we dropped on Japan. However,

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<v Speaker 7>I think that we are sending a clear message, which

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<v Speaker 7>we have not done at all under this administration, what

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<v Speaker 7>side we're on, and that we are definitely not taking

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<v Speaker 7>military conflict off the table, and we're positioning ourselves to

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<v Speaker 7>let the Middle East and the world know what side

431
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<v Speaker 7>we're on and who the enemies are, Okay, and that

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<v Speaker 7>is something that has been.

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<v Speaker 6>Just not there for the past four years.

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<v Speaker 2>And again, there's nothing that you're saying retroactively that I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to disagree with. My question comes down, what do

436
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<v Speaker 2>you think He's basically made a threat that says, if

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<v Speaker 2>you don't do this, they'll be all hell to pay.

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<v Speaker 2>And he specified a little bit. Let's assume he's president.

439
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<v Speaker 2>It's noontime, it's twelve thirty, it's one o'clock, it's two o'clock,

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<v Speaker 2>the hostage is still being held. What does he do

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<v Speaker 2>with that point he's issued an ultimatum. Has he backed

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<v Speaker 2>himself into a corner?

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<v Speaker 7>A little bit? Definitely? But I'll say this, you know Trump,

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<v Speaker 7>right now is not in the position that he was

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<v Speaker 7>in the first time, or Biden was in this last

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<v Speaker 7>four years. He does not have to worry about running

447
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<v Speaker 7>for reelection. I know that the man is not a

448
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<v Speaker 7>war hawk, and he does not like war. However, I

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<v Speaker 7>think he realizes this time that we have to take

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<v Speaker 7>a clear stance in military conflict with Iran. Maybe on

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<v Speaker 7>the horizon. I mean, let's face it, it's been on the

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<v Speaker 7>horizon for a long time. And now that they're on

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<v Speaker 7>the verge of having a nuclear weapon, he's spoken and

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<v Speaker 7>said recently they will never have a nuclear weapon. He

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<v Speaker 7>may use this as an excuse, like we used weapons

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<v Speaker 7>of mass destruction for our invasion of Iraq, he may

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<v Speaker 7>use this as an excuse for an invasion of Iran.

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<v Speaker 7>I would not put that past him, and I would

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<v Speaker 7>not put that past the position.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope he's not thinking that way, because Iran has

461
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<v Speaker 2>the fifth largest army in the world. I think that

462
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<v Speaker 2>would be a cataclysmic mistake. But guess what you gave

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<v Speaker 2>me an answer. Let's see people react to what you

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<v Speaker 2>had to say. Because I think that I think that

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<v Speaker 2>you never know with Donald Trump, and I.

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<v Speaker 7>Think that I think that there is a clock ticking

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<v Speaker 7>on a military conflict with Iran. And I think that

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<v Speaker 7>the domination.

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<v Speaker 2>Of that November of nineteen seven, right high.

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<v Speaker 7>Right, and I think that it's going to come to

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<v Speaker 7>a head right here in this administration. I really do

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<v Speaker 7>believe that. And I really do believe that if there

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<v Speaker 7>ever is going to be a conflict with them, it's

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<v Speaker 7>going to be now.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, when if and when that happens, Or won't you

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<v Speaker 2>call back and take a victory lap, as I tell callers.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh, and it wouldn't be Dan, It wouldn't be itself

478
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<v Speaker 7>out there, Dan. It wouldn't be a victory lap for anybody.

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<v Speaker 7>But it may have to be the thing that has

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<v Speaker 7>to be done.

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<v Speaker 2>We would be a victoryp if the hostages were released,

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<v Speaker 2>that's for sure.

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<v Speaker 7>That would be a victory lap. I agree, I agree,

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<v Speaker 7>all right, Thanks.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks very much. Bill. Six point seven two five four

486
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<v Speaker 2>to ten thirty is one line at six point seven

487
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<v Speaker 2>nine three one ten thirty. I've read to you what

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<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump has said. He will be president of the

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<v Speaker 2>United States, no question. On January twentieth. Has he backed

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<v Speaker 2>himself into a corner or has he issued with an

491
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<v Speaker 2>ultimatum that is long overdue. Feel free to join the conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>Come right back on Nightside.

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World

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<v Speaker 1>nights Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>We are in the Window World night Side Studios and

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<v Speaker 2>we're about to talk one of my favorite callers, Danielle

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<v Speaker 2>in Worster. Danielle Welcome. How are you doing?

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<v Speaker 4>Hey Dan? How good are you?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm doing just great? Thanks for calling in. Hope you

500
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<v Speaker 2>and yours had a great Thanksgiving.

501
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<v Speaker 4>Thank you we did. I hope you as well.

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<v Speaker 2>We sure did. So what do you think about Donald

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<v Speaker 2>Trump's challenge to amass threat whatever you want to call it.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I would expect nothing less from him. But

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm I apologize in advance if I sound ignorant,

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<v Speaker 4>but I have to ask, do we know that these

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<v Speaker 4>hostages are alive?

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<v Speaker 2>Well? I assume, thanks to show people is really intelligence.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just answering the question. I assume Israeli intelligence has

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<v Speaker 2>a pretty good idea. We don't have any certainty, but

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<v Speaker 2>but one of the reasons that I think some of

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<v Speaker 2>them should be alive is that might be a card

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<v Speaker 2>that Hamas could play uh in desperation that we will,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, allow us safe passage out of here, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the leadership in exchange for the hostages. What I could

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<v Speaker 2>see that happen.

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<v Speaker 4>I pray, I mean, I pray that they're alive. That's

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<v Speaker 4>my biggest like sphere is you know, I remember, you know,

519
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<v Speaker 4>back in the day, you'd watch the news and they'd

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<v Speaker 4>show somebody on a you know, one of those people

521
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<v Speaker 4>with the masks over the head, and they'd show the

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<v Speaker 4>hostage and to be a white background and be gardening

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<v Speaker 4>them with swordmer Remember those.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, those were particularly when isis.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh, yeah, I remember. But I'm just saying, like, you

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<v Speaker 4>don't see anything like that. So I just pray and

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<v Speaker 4>pray that these poor people are alive. I mean, God,

528
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<v Speaker 4>that's just giving me anxiety and itself.

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<v Speaker 2>But well, the other thing too is that they were

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<v Speaker 2>they were they were hidden underground, and they were in

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<v Speaker 2>a war zone. So it's possible some of them could

532
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<v Speaker 2>have been killed by mistake, some of them could have

533
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<v Speaker 2>been killed in bombardment. But my sense is that probably some,

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<v Speaker 2>if not all, are alive. Because again I think that

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<v Speaker 2>if I'm Hamas, if I put myself on Amasa's shoes,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking to myself, dead hostages have no value to Hamas.

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<v Speaker 2>Live hostages may have significant value to get them, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>out of the out of Gaza into a country that

539
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<v Speaker 2>would take them.

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<v Speaker 4>Is it possible they would show live footage to you know,

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<v Speaker 4>our government, but that it doesn't make it. They keep

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<v Speaker 4>it top secret and they don't share it with the

543
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<v Speaker 4>media so that we don't know means so that there's

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<v Speaker 4>no further harm.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I don't think.

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<v Speaker 4>There's no like intelligence that they're allied to we don't

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<v Speaker 4>know about, right, Yeah.

548
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<v Speaker 2>And I'm sure the Israeli government has intelligence. I'm sure

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<v Speaker 2>the Israeli government has individuals and people within within Hamas.

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<v Speaker 2>They have assets. I mean, there's there's no country in

551
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<v Speaker 2>the world who has better intelligence than Israel. They have

552
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<v Speaker 2>to be to have survived.

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<v Speaker 4>This long okay, right, right, But I mean I I

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<v Speaker 4>think he'll do I don't seey he wouldn't put his

555
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<v Speaker 4>money where it's not those he's shown me he's done

556
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<v Speaker 4>that before.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll see, you know, we will see what we will

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<v Speaker 2>see what he does. You know. Obviously, if all of

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<v Speaker 2>a sudden, Hamas says we're releasing the hostages because we

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to have to deal with this new president,

561
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<v Speaker 2>or maybe they would do it, you know, despite I

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<v Speaker 2>think the Iranian hostages were released as a common adation

563
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<v Speaker 2>of trying to establish better relations with the United States

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<v Speaker 2>with the new president than Ronald Reagan. And also in

565
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<v Speaker 2>spite despite the guy who was going out the door

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<v Speaker 2>in that case, Jimmy.

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<v Speaker 4>Carter, Yeah, you know. And then as far as the

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<v Speaker 4>poor United Healthcare guy, I mean, Brian Thompson, I think

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<v Speaker 4>his name is right. You know, I'm gonna be the

570
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<v Speaker 4>elephant in the room. But with this being what looks

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<v Speaker 4>like a professional job, go back and read the article

572
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<v Speaker 4>about that. When they interviewed his wife after it was done,

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<v Speaker 4>I thought that I thought it was interesting that she

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<v Speaker 4>was so quick to talk to the media. I just God,

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<v Speaker 4>I couldn't even put myself to think if that was me.

576
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<v Speaker 4>But I don't think I could put a sentence together

577
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<v Speaker 4>that were me.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes people are in shock. Sometimes people in shock, and

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<v Speaker 2>the and the media is has a voracious appetite. Sure

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<v Speaker 2>that he is a well known figure in many in

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<v Speaker 2>Minnesota where the health is based, and I'm sure that

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<v Speaker 2>they had local television camera crews there, and the his

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<v Speaker 2>wife might have given something to the media just to

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<v Speaker 2>get them away from her house. Just I've bet in

585
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<v Speaker 2>those situations and they're not pleasant for anyone. That's for sure.

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<v Speaker 4>Had gotten threats.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of people get a lot of people get threats,

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<v Speaker 2>but that was as close to a a hit as

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<v Speaker 2>I have ever seen.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, so that's what's weird. I mean, they knew where

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<v Speaker 4>he was. I mean, he's not even in Minnesota, so

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<v Speaker 4>just you know, we got to look at I mean, they.

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<v Speaker 2>Knew this guy, knew exactly what he looked like.

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<v Speaker 5>This guy knew where the meeting was at the time,

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<v Speaker 5>and I.

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<v Speaker 2>Was so who had access to his schedule within But anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to go off down that line. We

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<v Speaker 2>could do an hour on that later, Danielle. As always,

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<v Speaker 2>we will talk soon. Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, sounds good. Thanks for having me talk.

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<v Speaker 2>To you soon. Good night. Let me go to Roger

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<v Speaker 2>and Melrose. Roger, your take on Donald Trump's threat to

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<v Speaker 2>Hamas What do you.

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<v Speaker 6>Think it's just him talking nonsense? What is it that

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<v Speaker 6>US can do to Israel is not doing to these

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<v Speaker 6>people already?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's a good question. I don't have an answer

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<v Speaker 2>for that. But when when you make a threat like that,

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<v Speaker 2>whether it's in a barroom and you say to some

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<v Speaker 2>some guy, you don't want to go outside and settle this,

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<v Speaker 2>and the guy says yes. At that point, what do

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<v Speaker 2>you do, now, go outside and settle it. You got

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<v Speaker 2>well on second thought.

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<v Speaker 6>And then the other one is the Senate in the

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<v Speaker 6>Congress is not going to allow the president put troops

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<v Speaker 6>into Iran anywhere. We didn't know. That has to go

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<v Speaker 6>through the legislative branch. And they're not going to approve

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<v Speaker 6>us putting soldiers on the ground.

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<v Speaker 2>They could they do under under the War Powers Act.

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<v Speaker 2>They allow I think a ninety day deployment. So if

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<v Speaker 2>for example, there was a use for you know, Navy

622
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<v Speaker 2>seals or you know special forces type operation for example,

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<v Speaker 2>there was no advance approval to the best of my knowledge,

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<v Speaker 2>when Osama bin Laden was dealt with. You know, I

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<v Speaker 2>think that was done by the military, and I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think that that situation an He wanted to the Oval

627
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<v Speaker 2>office and said, look, guys, I want you to know,

628
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<v Speaker 2>a couple of nights from now Osa have been Laden

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<v Speaker 2>is going to go scuppers up. I don't think so.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, And in a way I agree with you, Dan,

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<v Speaker 6>But like I said, what else can he do that.

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<v Speaker 6>Israel hasn't done it. The Israel's bombing the hell out,

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<v Speaker 6>What is the US going to do?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And the problem is they have hostages. So even

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<v Speaker 2>if you wanted to hit him with a with a

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<v Speaker 2>big weapon, even at ted him with a tactical nuke,

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<v Speaker 2>what's that going to do to the hostages?

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<v Speaker 6>And that'll upset the world oil supply, That'll just totally

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<v Speaker 6>dismantle the Middle East. That's not the move to go.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Well, he certainly has not out there, and it

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<v Speaker 2>will be remembered. I guarantee you that that if nothing happens,

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<v Speaker 2>the media is going to be quick to remind him

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<v Speaker 2>of the threat that he has issued.

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<v Speaker 6>Right, true, that is true. But but the other line

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<v Speaker 6>is definitely Israel has the right to defend themselves one thousand.

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<v Speaker 6>But where is the attack on the US. There is

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<v Speaker 6>no attack on the US over there. They're attacking an ally,

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<v Speaker 6>but there's no threat to the United States from Hesbola

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<v Speaker 6>and all those people over there.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, again, I think that if hezbolah Ojamas were able

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<v Speaker 2>to take out the government of Israel, that would have

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<v Speaker 2>a tremendous impact in the Middle East and our interests

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<v Speaker 2>over the.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh yeah, that's much.

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<v Speaker 2>We haven't the Middle East, but that's not.

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<v Speaker 6>Gonna happen there. Israelis are actually very tough, resilient military.

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<v Speaker 6>They can handle them. So they've been handled themselves for

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<v Speaker 6>the last fifty sixty years.

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<v Speaker 2>I understand that, but it comes a point in time

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<v Speaker 2>where where they have been they have handled so much.

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<v Speaker 2>We need to support Israel. I mean, that's that's.

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<v Speaker 6>Why I do it, needs to defend themselves. But Dan,

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<v Speaker 6>you made a good point. Maybe he wrote a check

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<v Speaker 6>you can't cash.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe what we'll say, we'll see. I think that's exactly

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<v Speaker 2>what some would fear. Roger, thank you for your call.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm up against my eleven o'clock news, so I got

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<v Speaker 2>to let you go reluctantly. Thank you very much. Dan,

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<v Speaker 2>have a great one. Good night, and we'll take a

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<v Speaker 2>quick break here as we approach the the eleven o'clock news.

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<v Speaker 2>We have one hour left to go. I would like

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<v Speaker 2>to continue to talk about this. You have the option

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<v Speaker 2>of lighting up the lines or I will move on

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<v Speaker 2>to something else. It's as simple as that. Okay, coming

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<v Speaker 2>back on nightside
