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Speaker 2: I want to talk about a very interesting comment that
Speaker 2: President elect Trump made on Monday. This is a story
Speaker 2: I'm quoting from out of the New York Times. He
Speaker 2: was writing on truth Social without naming any militant group.
Speaker 2: Mister Trump said in his post quote, if the hostages
Speaker 2: are not released prior to January twentieth, twenty twenty five,
Speaker 2: and not of course, of the day that he will
Speaker 2: be inaugurated, the date that I probably assume office as
Speaker 2: President of the United States, there will be all caps now,
Speaker 2: all hell to pay in the Middle East, and for
Speaker 2: those in charge who perpetrated these atrocities against humanity. Those
Speaker 2: responsible will be hit harder than anybody has been hit
Speaker 2: in the long and storied history of the United States
Speaker 2: of America. Caps full caps, Release the hostages. Now. We
Speaker 2: started off with about two hundred and fifty hostages or
Speaker 2: aptured by the Hamas led attack. Quoting now from an
Speaker 2: article from Ephret Livney. According to Israeli authorities. There are
Speaker 2: now about one hundred they believe who are still alive
Speaker 2: and in custody of Hamas. So I want to know
Speaker 2: from you, whether you are a Trump supporter or you
Speaker 2: voted for one of his opponents in the last election,
Speaker 2: what do you think of this? He really has laid
Speaker 2: down a challenge to Hamas. If Hamas decides to release
Speaker 2: the hostages in advance of his inauguration, as Iran did
Speaker 2: before Ronald Reagan took office in nineteen eighty one, it
Speaker 2: would be a big political victory for Donald Trump. If
Speaker 2: Hamas does not, then the question is what does Donald
Speaker 2: Trump do because he obviously you don't make a threat,
Speaker 2: a threat of that magnitude without being prepared to follow
Speaker 2: through on it. So I'd love to know what you think.
Speaker 2: This is a It kind of came out of the blue.
Speaker 2: We're involved in well two right now world hotspots Israel
Speaker 2: the Middle East, no question, Hesblah. I think has been defanged.
Speaker 2: Hamas has been defanged. But Hamas holds hostages. That is
Speaker 2: the one card they have left to play. It will
Speaker 2: be interesting to see what is done by President Trump
Speaker 2: if the hostages are not released. If they are released,
Speaker 2: it will be a brilliant stroke. If they're not released,
Speaker 2: then the question becomes, Okay, mister president, you are now president.
Speaker 2: You threatened some pretty serious reprisal. What are you going
Speaker 2: to do? What do you think Donald Trump will do?
Speaker 2: And do you think the hostages will be released? The
Speaker 2: other hot spot around the world, well, at this point
Speaker 2: remains Ukraine, the Ukraine Russian War, which Donald Trump says
Speaker 2: he can have an influence in ending those hostilities. At
Speaker 2: the same time, now we have a crisis brewing in
Speaker 2: South Korea. God knows what designs China has on Taiwan.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: He's inheriting some pretty serious problems around the world from
Speaker 2: the Biden administration, and I think we are We're in
Speaker 2: for some interesting times. I'm going to take a break.
Speaker 2: I'm going to open up the phone lines six one, seven, two, five,
Speaker 2: four ten thirty. Three lines are open there. I have
Speaker 2: one line open at six one, seven, nine, three, one,
Speaker 2: ten thirty. What do you think about Donald Trump's statement?
Speaker 2: Is it bravado? I mean, it's it puts him out
Speaker 2: there on a limb. If the hostages are not released,
Speaker 2: then what card does he play again? He's saying that
Speaker 2: they will be hit harder than anybody has been hit
Speaker 2: in the long and storied history of the United States
Speaker 2: of America. Released the hostages. Now, I pray that Hamas
Speaker 2: does the right thing and releases the hostages. But I
Speaker 2: fear that many of the hostages have passed already, and
Speaker 2: the ones that do remain, I'm not sure Hamas will
Speaker 2: give them up because after that, what happens to Hamas.
Speaker 2: It's complicated. You have the numbers six one, seven, two, five,
Speaker 2: four ten thirty is the only line now where there
Speaker 2: are some open lines at six seven, two, four ten thirty.
Speaker 2: Let's get it going here. I think we are going
Speaker 2: to have a very dramatic change in administrations, whether you've
Speaker 2: voted for Donald Trump or not, and a dramatic change
Speaker 2: in the posture that we as a country will be
Speaker 2: taking around the world. Will we will probably adopt a
Speaker 2: different posture in regards to Ukraine, and we certainly, I
Speaker 2: think will adopt a stronger posture in terms of Israel
Speaker 2: in the Middle East. Back on Nightside, right after this
Speaker 2: very quick break, let's open up those phone lines.
Speaker 1: Rob Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window
Speaker 1: World Nightside Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2: So we're talking about Donald President elect. Donald Trump's threat
Speaker 2: to hamas very simple, release the hostages. They'll be all
Speaker 2: hell to pay. Those responses will be hit harder than
Speaker 2: anybody's been hit in the long and storied history of
Speaker 2: the United States of America. Released the hostages. Now, all caps,
Speaker 2: let's go to Marty. Marty, your reaction to the to
Speaker 2: the president's challenge, his ultimatum. I guess we could call
Speaker 2: it what's your thoughts?
Speaker 4: Well?
Speaker 5: All two things. One, I hope he's going to do it.
Speaker 5: And it reminds me of when Muhammar Kadafi, who I
Speaker 5: feel sorry for what happened at the end when he
Speaker 5: told the United States this is the Gulf of Sidra,
Speaker 5: this is red the line of death. If you cross it,
Speaker 5: we're going to kick your butt. Ronald Reagan sent in
Speaker 5: some forces and kicked his butt. So it's reminiscent of that.
Speaker 5: I hope that Donald Trump is going to do it.
Speaker 5: I will say one thing to be fair, I remember
Speaker 5: in his first term he made some sort of a
Speaker 5: threat about Iran and he didn't come through. Now, as
Speaker 5: a former cop in the street, we call that wolf tickets.
Speaker 5: When you say something and don't produce. I would like
Speaker 5: for Donald Trump to produce, and if he does, all
Speaker 5: of us will benefit. Also, what I'd like for him
Speaker 5: to do is a little bit of an extra is
Speaker 5: take care of the hooties because they're they're making us
Speaker 5: take little sissies and they're attacking ships and doing nothing
Speaker 5: about it. And then let me tell you a parenthetical note.
Speaker 5: Are you familiar with that? In the sixties it was
Speaker 5: Britain's fight they had the special the Sas over there.
Speaker 2: I believe, so I probably don't recall, so.
Speaker 5: I mean the more historian anyway, So I hope that
Speaker 5: Donald Trump will do it. It sounds very good, and
Speaker 5: he's just doing it because it has to be done,
Speaker 5: because those the the Hamas, they're not they're not doing
Speaker 5: good things they're doing they're not just they're not nice.
Speaker 2: We agree Hamas is horrible. My question is if they now.
Speaker 2: I remember the the the Reagan inauguration. I was supposed
Speaker 2: to cover that for wv's Channel four, and at that
Speaker 2: point they released the Iranian hostages after four hundred and
Speaker 2: forty four days, and I ended up going to Wisbad
Speaker 2: in West Germany to to find the mass There a
Speaker 2: couple of Massachusetts hostages. They're Bill Key. Oh and there
Speaker 2: was also a fellow who had really I think been
Speaker 2: a CIA operative, sadly died in an automobile accident back
Speaker 2: here in mass Issusetts a few years later. What do
Speaker 2: you think Trump will do? I mean, he's he's he's
Speaker 2: he's leveled a threat. It's when you level that threat,
Speaker 2: you got to follow through. I think if and.
Speaker 5: Let me just say also as a former military, two
Speaker 5: year veteran of the army, I think that if he
Speaker 5: does decide to take action, real action, the military will
Speaker 5: love it. The military will love it because they will
Speaker 5: be motivated to go in and do something to attack
Speaker 5: the bad guys. So I hope he doesn't.
Speaker 2: Do you do you? I don't think that he is
Speaker 2: going to send US troops in there.
Speaker 5: No, yeah, Singly, the war has been fought by airstrikes
Speaker 5: and by drones.
Speaker 2: Right, and then I mean that Hamas has been pulverized
Speaker 2: u by by air attack. The other thing too, is
Speaker 2: from Hamas's point of view. And I'm not a Hamask
Speaker 2: guy at all, as you know. No, why would they
Speaker 2: release the hostages? First of all, they should release the
Speaker 2: hostages on a humanitarian ground. But they don't have any
Speaker 2: humanity within them. They are looking at their hostages as
Speaker 2: they get out of jail card I mean, they're they're
Speaker 2: maybe their escape out of Gaza. If once they do,
Speaker 2: they have left.
Speaker 5: I hear what you're saying. But if you look at
Speaker 5: how Syria is falling apart, and and all of those
Speaker 5: countries over there are just losing whatever, I think maybe
Speaker 5: somebody will prevail and say, listen, let's give them up,
Speaker 5: because holding them is not going to do any good.
Speaker 2: Absolutely good. Agree with him more, Marty. Appreciate your callers always.
Speaker 5: Thank you.
Speaker 6: Thank you.
Speaker 2: By the way, I want to ask you, are you
Speaker 2: still there, Marty? Yes, yeah, very quickly. I don't want
Speaker 2: to change topics here, but as a former police officer
Speaker 2: in New York City, I'm sure you saw that horrific
Speaker 2: shooting today of the executive I guess, the CEO of
Speaker 2: United Healthcare. How tough is it going to be, in
Speaker 2: your opinion, to capture that assailant who seemed to have
Speaker 2: pulled it off as as close to flawlessly as possible.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm assuming that he eventually will be caught,
Speaker 2: but he certainly picked the time and the place and
Speaker 2: you have to wonder if there's some inside information that
Speaker 2: he had to know exactly where that gentleman was who
Speaker 2: he shot in the back of the coward that he.
Speaker 5: Was, Well, it sounds it sounds like it was a
Speaker 5: professional hit. I think I heard that the shooter has
Speaker 5: gone misfired and.
Speaker 2: He dropped a few three times, and.
Speaker 5: He dropped some bullets. So the city, this is a
Speaker 5: high profile thing in New York NYPD. When they have
Speaker 5: something like this, they're amazing. And then they have all
Speaker 5: of the closed circuit video and everything, and the guy
Speaker 5: made a mistake of doing it where he's on camera,
Speaker 5: so and then they're gonna use their their like resources.
Speaker 2: So I he's gonna be look, unless he's going to
Speaker 2: shoot the guy in the woods or something, he's going
Speaker 2: to be on camera in most major cities. And there's
Speaker 2: plenty of video of him at this point. But they
Speaker 2: lose him once he rides his bike in a central park.
Speaker 2: Hopefully now they can pick him up.
Speaker 5: At some We think we think over here that it
Speaker 5: was somebody a disgruntled insurance person and maybe they didn't
Speaker 5: get a claim settled.
Speaker 7: Or something like that.
Speaker 5: I don't think it's going to be anything intrigued, like
Speaker 5: an international hit man or anything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I'm close to closer to you to where
Speaker 2: you're thinking. Mardy. I appreciate eat you call.
Speaker 5: Thank you very much, Thanks for the respect. Thank you, babai, welcome,
Speaker 5: good night.
Speaker 2: Six one seven, two, five, four to ten thirty, triple
Speaker 2: eight nine two nine ten thirty and six one seven
Speaker 2: ninety three one ten thirty. I'm not going to short
Speaker 2: change anyone here, So I got will, I got Gene
Speaker 2: coming up. We'll get to them, I promise, and we'll
Speaker 2: get to you. All you have to do is call
Speaker 2: six one, seven, two, five four ten thirty or six one, seven,
Speaker 2: nine three one ten thirty. Donald Trump on Monday, on
Speaker 2: his social media account, essentially said to Hamas, release the
Speaker 2: hostages before I come prepp, before he becomes president, and
Speaker 2: if the hostages are not released, he will hit Hamas
Speaker 2: harder than any group. Let me quote his words here
Speaker 2: just to set this up. He basically said, release the
Speaker 2: hostages now, capital letters those responsible without mentioning Hamas, that's
Speaker 2: what he's talking about, will be hit harder than anybody
Speaker 2: has been hit in the long and storied history of
Speaker 2: the United States of America. Will be all hell to
Speaker 2: pay in the Middle East. So you don't issue a
Speaker 2: threat like that unless you intend to follow up, assuming
Speaker 2: the other side does not comply with the threat. The
Speaker 2: question I have is what do you think Donald Trump
Speaker 2: has in mind? And clearly Benjamin Netanyahoo is welcoming Donald
Speaker 2: Trump as the next president of the United States, and
Speaker 2: I think it's a good development for Israel. As you know,
Speaker 2: I'm I'm not Israeli, I'm not Jewish, but I'm very
Speaker 2: supportive of the nation of Israel and all that it represents.
Speaker 2: So but I but again, you issue a threat, it's
Speaker 2: like drawing the line. You know, you cross this line. Okay,
Speaker 2: you've crossed that line. Let's move a little further. What
Speaker 2: about this line now? I think with Donald Trump, people
Speaker 2: have to take action. My question is what do you
Speaker 2: think it'll be Back on Nightside, fill up these phone lines,
Speaker 2: coming back right after the news at the bottom of
Speaker 2: the hour on a chili Wednesday night early Well, it's
Speaker 2: late fall, actually it's a wind. It's a late fall
Speaker 2: winter night here in New England.
Speaker 1: Nights Side with Dan Ray, I'm WBZ Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2: Back to the phones, you go, let me go to
Speaker 2: Gene and averteen. You're next on Nightside. We're talking about
Speaker 2: Donald Trump's threat against Tomas. Go ahead, Gene, Hi.
Speaker 3: Dan, Yes, I'm glad you're talking about this. I'm so
Speaker 3: tired of this not being being acknowledged on a daily
Speaker 3: basis out there in the news and through politicians and
Speaker 3: Washington and everything else. I'm just so tired of not
Speaker 3: hearing about these hostages. I mean, come on, this is
Speaker 3: so ridiculous. Something has to be done, and I think
Speaker 3: Donald Trump is the one to do it. Where I
Speaker 3: grew up, it was a very very tough area, and
Speaker 3: I know when things went wrong and people were bothered,
Speaker 3: there was either an uncle or an aunt or our
Speaker 3: cousin or someone who would take care of the matter
Speaker 3: and would never happen again. Donald Trump's that guy. I'm
Speaker 3: telling you. I feel that he's that guy, because you
Speaker 3: know what these Hamas did to these kids who were
Speaker 3: only at a concert and their families, and it was
Speaker 3: the most horrible, horrific. I mean, just like so inhumane
Speaker 3: and animalistic what they did that they need to be
Speaker 3: taken care of.
Speaker 2: They don't. Let's assume they released the hostages. If they
Speaker 2: released the hostages, it is a tremendous victory, a tremendous
Speaker 2: victory for president then it would be President Trump, or
Speaker 2: if they release him before he becomes president, for President Electrum.
Speaker 2: If they decide not to release the hostages, what do
Speaker 2: you think happens.
Speaker 3: Then Well, I think they'll they'll they'll have hell to pay.
Speaker 3: I think they will be hell to pay for these hamas.
Speaker 3: There's going to be hell to pay these poor hostages.
Speaker 3: We can only imagine how their daily life have been
Speaker 3: if they're still alive and can even function. And I
Speaker 3: wish the families would not pose, not put the pictures
Speaker 3: up of their sons and daughters any longer, because I
Speaker 3: feel like as soon as the amass sees that recognizable faith,
Speaker 3: they last time that was done, they killed that poor
Speaker 3: hostage because the parents wanted him released. Don't show your
Speaker 3: kids' pictures anymore, because to me, it pinpoints that, yeah.
Speaker 2: Well they have the hostages in their custody. At the
Speaker 2: same time, I'm sure that that the parents are re
Speaker 2: a lot of advice and guidance from our State Department,
Speaker 2: from the government of Israel, and I'm sure they're doing
Speaker 2: what they consider to be the.
Speaker 3: Best I know. I just feel I just feel don't
Speaker 3: show the kid's faces anymore because if they want to
Speaker 3: make it worse for the parents, they killed the kid
Speaker 3: the next day. They did it the last time. It
Speaker 3: was terrible. I can't take it. I do want Trump
Speaker 3: to do something. Somebody has to finally. Thank you, Dan,
Speaker 3: have a good evening you too.
Speaker 2: Let me go next to Will on Long Island. Will
Speaker 2: welcome back. How are you sure?
Speaker 7: Hey, Dan, How's how's your holiday?
Speaker 2: Had a great holiday? I hope you did as well.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I had a pretty good time. And I went
Speaker 7: to Bermuda, I went to North Carolina. I did a
Speaker 7: few things. The past couple of weeks. I haven't spoken to him.
Speaker 2: Wow, So you were surprising billion Americans whatever the number
Speaker 2: was who were traveling air travel. Well, that was only
Speaker 2: three million of you doing air travel. But that's still
Speaker 2: quite like the group.
Speaker 7: Go right ahead, So I I think. I think, first off,
Speaker 7: it starts with massive pressure on Iran, an increased presence
Speaker 7: in the Persian Gulf and the Straight of hor moves
Speaker 7: and just starting to send in a lot of military
Speaker 7: and mobilizing, and Iran really is going to be the
Speaker 7: one that's pressured through all of this. Okay, and I
Speaker 7: think I would you know, I Marty had a great call,
Speaker 7: but I would disagree that, you know, we didn't do
Speaker 7: anything to Iran. I think Solamani would disagree with that also,
Speaker 7: wherever he is now. I would also say that, you know,
Speaker 7: Iran is obviously the funder of all of this. Iran
Speaker 7: is a state sponsor of terrorism. Iran has called for
Speaker 7: the death of Israel for decades at this point in
Speaker 7: the United States, I think that in September, Trump also
Speaker 7: said what he said, will bomb them to smithereens. And
Speaker 7: I believe even if they had threatened the life of
Speaker 7: Joe Biden, if Joe Biden were the former president, Donald
Speaker 7: Trump would stand steadfast and say this thing. I'm not
Speaker 7: sure that this is political. This is in November of
Speaker 7: twenty twenty, after the election, I posted on my Facebook page,
Speaker 7: I said, weak American leadership is not only a detriment
Speaker 7: to the United States, it's a detriment to the entire world.
Speaker 7: And then not because I had a crystal ball, because
Speaker 7: I knew we were putting a mentally incompetent person in
Speaker 7: the White House.
Speaker 2: Okay, and back, let's leave that aside. Let's focus on
Speaker 2: what we're talking about tonight, which is let's assume that
Speaker 2: the hostages, Donald Trump puts his hand to the Bible
Speaker 2: sworn in, and the hostages is still held by Hamas.
Speaker 2: What do you think President Trump does? I mean, I
Speaker 2: know you talked about putting economic pressure, but the language
Speaker 2: would suggest that there was going to be a direct
Speaker 2: response against those I can quote it for you. You
Speaker 2: probably know as well as I do. He's saying those
Speaker 2: be responsible will be hit harder than anybody's been hit
Speaker 2: in the long and storied history of the United States.
Speaker 2: Do you represent? Do you think that means Iran as
Speaker 2: opposed to homage.
Speaker 7: Let's use the words responsible. There are a couple parties responsible.
Speaker 7: It's not just TOAMAS, you know, it's also the funders
Speaker 7: of TAMAS, and we know who they are. So the
Speaker 7: people responsible, I'm sure as his administration on folds, are
Speaker 7: going to directly tie this to Iran. And Iran is
Speaker 7: also going to have health to pay, and I wouldn't
Speaker 7: be surprised. I disagree with Marty a little bit. The
Speaker 7: United States may not put ground troops per se, but
Speaker 7: I would not be surprised to see tactical units go in,
Speaker 7: possibly seal teams and stuff like that to going and
Speaker 7: extract hostages in conjunction with the Israelis. I wouldn't be
Speaker 7: surprised to see advisors in there and people on the ground.
Speaker 7: I wouldn't be surprised to see our drone operators and
Speaker 7: people in there. I wouldn't be surprised to see actual
Speaker 7: our battleships and aircraft carriers and carry out actual missions
Speaker 7: against the I asked the question.
Speaker 2: Here's why I asked that question, Okay, And I'm not
Speaker 2: trying to challenge you on it. I'm simply asking. He says,
Speaker 2: the will be hell all hell to pay the Middle
Speaker 2: East and for those in charge who perpetrated these atrocities
Speaker 2: against humanity. That sounds more like AMAS. Okay, those responsible
Speaker 2: will be hit harder than anybody's been hit in the
Speaker 2: long and storied history of the United States of America.
Speaker 2: Released the hostages now, So if the first represents those
Speaker 2: who perpetrated the atrocities are hamas and those responsible are around. Look,
Speaker 2: we drop two nuclear weapons, two atomic weapons on Japan
Speaker 2: in nineteen forty five.
Speaker 7: Well, we know that Trump is We know that Trump
Speaker 7: is bombastic. And if we think about the hell that
Speaker 7: the United States has unleashed on its enemies. Yes, I
Speaker 7: find it hard to believe we're going to do anything
Speaker 7: more drastic than the two atomic bombs we dropped on Japan. However,
Speaker 7: I think that we are sending a clear message, which
Speaker 7: we have not done at all under this administration, what
Speaker 7: side we're on, and that we are definitely not taking
Speaker 7: military conflict off the table, and we're positioning ourselves to
Speaker 7: let the Middle East and the world know what side
Speaker 7: we're on and who the enemies are, Okay, and that
Speaker 7: is something that has been.
Speaker 6: Just not there for the past four years.
Speaker 2: And again, there's nothing that you're saying retroactively that I'm
Speaker 2: going to disagree with. My question comes down, what do
Speaker 2: you think He's basically made a threat that says, if
Speaker 2: you don't do this, they'll be all hell to pay.
Speaker 2: And he specified a little bit. Let's assume he's president.
Speaker 2: It's noontime, it's twelve thirty, it's one o'clock, it's two o'clock,
Speaker 2: the hostage is still being held. What does he do
Speaker 2: with that point he's issued an ultimatum. Has he backed
Speaker 2: himself into a corner?
Speaker 7: A little bit? Definitely? But I'll say this, you know Trump,
Speaker 7: right now is not in the position that he was
Speaker 7: in the first time, or Biden was in this last
Speaker 7: four years. He does not have to worry about running
Speaker 7: for reelection. I know that the man is not a
Speaker 7: war hawk, and he does not like war. However, I
Speaker 7: think he realizes this time that we have to take
Speaker 7: a clear stance in military conflict with Iran. Maybe on
Speaker 7: the horizon. I mean, let's face it, it's been on the
Speaker 7: horizon for a long time. And now that they're on
Speaker 7: the verge of having a nuclear weapon, he's spoken and
Speaker 7: said recently they will never have a nuclear weapon. He
Speaker 7: may use this as an excuse, like we used weapons
Speaker 7: of mass destruction for our invasion of Iraq, he may
Speaker 7: use this as an excuse for an invasion of Iran.
Speaker 7: I would not put that past him, and I would
Speaker 7: not put that past the position.
Speaker 2: I hope he's not thinking that way, because Iran has
Speaker 2: the fifth largest army in the world. I think that
Speaker 2: would be a cataclysmic mistake. But guess what you gave
Speaker 2: me an answer. Let's see people react to what you
Speaker 2: had to say. Because I think that I think that
Speaker 2: you never know with Donald Trump, and I.
Speaker 7: Think that I think that there is a clock ticking
Speaker 7: on a military conflict with Iran. And I think that
Speaker 7: the domination.
Speaker 2: Of that November of nineteen seven, right high.
Speaker 7: Right, and I think that it's going to come to
Speaker 7: a head right here in this administration. I really do
Speaker 7: believe that. And I really do believe that if there
Speaker 7: ever is going to be a conflict with them, it's
Speaker 7: going to be now.
Speaker 2: Well, when if and when that happens, Or won't you
Speaker 2: call back and take a victory lap, as I tell callers.
Speaker 7: Oh, and it wouldn't be Dan, It wouldn't be itself
Speaker 7: out there, Dan. It wouldn't be a victory lap for anybody.
Speaker 7: But it may have to be the thing that has
Speaker 7: to be done.
Speaker 2: We would be a victoryp if the hostages were released,
Speaker 2: that's for sure.
Speaker 7: That would be a victory lap. I agree, I agree,
Speaker 7: all right, Thanks.
Speaker 2: Thanks very much. Bill. Six point seven two five four
Speaker 2: to ten thirty is one line at six point seven
Speaker 2: nine three one ten thirty. I've read to you what
Speaker 2: Donald Trump has said. He will be president of the
Speaker 2: United States, no question. On January twentieth. Has he backed
Speaker 2: himself into a corner or has he issued with an
Speaker 2: ultimatum that is long overdue. Feel free to join the conversation.
Speaker 2: Come right back on Nightside.
Speaker 1: Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Speaker 1: nights Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2: We are in the Window World night Side Studios and
Speaker 2: we're about to talk one of my favorite callers, Danielle
Speaker 2: in Worster. Danielle Welcome. How are you doing?
Speaker 4: Hey Dan? How good are you?
Speaker 2: I'm doing just great? Thanks for calling in. Hope you
Speaker 2: and yours had a great Thanksgiving.
Speaker 4: Thank you we did. I hope you as well.
Speaker 2: We sure did. So what do you think about Donald
Speaker 2: Trump's challenge to amass threat whatever you want to call it.
Speaker 4: I mean, I would expect nothing less from him. But
Speaker 4: and I'm I apologize in advance if I sound ignorant,
Speaker 4: but I have to ask, do we know that these
Speaker 4: hostages are alive?
Speaker 2: Well? I assume, thanks to show people is really intelligence.
Speaker 2: I'm just answering the question. I assume Israeli intelligence has
Speaker 2: a pretty good idea. We don't have any certainty, but
Speaker 2: but one of the reasons that I think some of
Speaker 2: them should be alive is that might be a card
Speaker 2: that Hamas could play uh in desperation that we will,
Speaker 2: you know, allow us safe passage out of here, you know,
Speaker 2: the leadership in exchange for the hostages. What I could
Speaker 2: see that happen.
Speaker 4: I pray, I mean, I pray that they're alive. That's
Speaker 4: my biggest like sphere is you know, I remember, you know,
Speaker 4: back in the day, you'd watch the news and they'd
Speaker 4: show somebody on a you know, one of those people
Speaker 4: with the masks over the head, and they'd show the
Speaker 4: hostage and to be a white background and be gardening
Speaker 4: them with swordmer Remember those.
Speaker 2: Yeah, those were particularly when isis.
Speaker 4: Uh, yeah, I remember. But I'm just saying, like, you
Speaker 4: don't see anything like that. So I just pray and
Speaker 4: pray that these poor people are alive. I mean, God,
Speaker 4: that's just giving me anxiety and itself.
Speaker 2: But well, the other thing too is that they were
Speaker 2: they were they were hidden underground, and they were in
Speaker 2: a war zone. So it's possible some of them could
Speaker 2: have been killed by mistake, some of them could have
Speaker 2: been killed in bombardment. But my sense is that probably some,
Speaker 2: if not all, are alive. Because again I think that
Speaker 2: if I'm Hamas, if I put myself on Amasa's shoes,
Speaker 2: I'm thinking to myself, dead hostages have no value to Hamas.
Speaker 2: Live hostages may have significant value to get them, you know,
Speaker 2: out of the out of Gaza into a country that
Speaker 2: would take them.
Speaker 4: Is it possible they would show live footage to you know,
Speaker 4: our government, but that it doesn't make it. They keep
Speaker 4: it top secret and they don't share it with the
Speaker 4: media so that we don't know means so that there's
Speaker 4: no further harm.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't think.
Speaker 4: There's no like intelligence that they're allied to we don't
Speaker 4: know about, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2: And I'm sure the Israeli government has intelligence. I'm sure
Speaker 2: the Israeli government has individuals and people within within Hamas.
Speaker 2: They have assets. I mean, there's there's no country in
Speaker 2: the world who has better intelligence than Israel. They have
Speaker 2: to be to have survived.
Speaker 4: This long okay, right, right, But I mean I I
Speaker 4: think he'll do I don't seey he wouldn't put his
Speaker 4: money where it's not those he's shown me he's done
Speaker 4: that before.
Speaker 2: We'll see, you know, we will see what we will
Speaker 2: see what he does. You know. Obviously, if all of
Speaker 2: a sudden, Hamas says we're releasing the hostages because we
Speaker 2: don't want to have to deal with this new president,
Speaker 2: or maybe they would do it, you know, despite I
Speaker 2: think the Iranian hostages were released as a common adation
Speaker 2: of trying to establish better relations with the United States
Speaker 2: with the new president than Ronald Reagan. And also in
Speaker 2: spite despite the guy who was going out the door
Speaker 2: in that case, Jimmy.
Speaker 4: Carter, Yeah, you know. And then as far as the
Speaker 4: poor United Healthcare guy, I mean, Brian Thompson, I think
Speaker 4: his name is right. You know, I'm gonna be the
Speaker 4: elephant in the room. But with this being what looks
Speaker 4: like a professional job, go back and read the article
Speaker 4: about that. When they interviewed his wife after it was done,
Speaker 4: I thought that I thought it was interesting that she
Speaker 4: was so quick to talk to the media. I just God,
Speaker 4: I couldn't even put myself to think if that was me.
Speaker 4: But I don't think I could put a sentence together
Speaker 4: that were me.
Speaker 2: Sometimes people are in shock. Sometimes people in shock, and
Speaker 2: the and the media is has a voracious appetite. Sure
Speaker 2: that he is a well known figure in many in
Speaker 2: Minnesota where the health is based, and I'm sure that
Speaker 2: they had local television camera crews there, and the his
Speaker 2: wife might have given something to the media just to
Speaker 2: get them away from her house. Just I've bet in
Speaker 2: those situations and they're not pleasant for anyone. That's for sure.
Speaker 4: Had gotten threats.
Speaker 2: A lot of people get a lot of people get threats,
Speaker 2: but that was as close to a a hit as
Speaker 2: I have ever seen.
Speaker 4: Well, so that's what's weird. I mean, they knew where
Speaker 4: he was. I mean, he's not even in Minnesota, so
Speaker 4: just you know, we got to look at I mean, they.
Speaker 2: Knew this guy, knew exactly what he looked like.
Speaker 5: This guy knew where the meeting was at the time,
Speaker 5: and I.
Speaker 2: Was so who had access to his schedule within But anyway,
Speaker 2: I don't want to go off down that line. We
Speaker 2: could do an hour on that later, Danielle. As always,
Speaker 2: we will talk soon. Thank you so much.
Speaker 4: Yeah, sounds good. Thanks for having me talk.
Speaker 2: To you soon. Good night. Let me go to Roger
Speaker 2: and Melrose. Roger, your take on Donald Trump's threat to
Speaker 2: Hamas What do you.
Speaker 6: Think it's just him talking nonsense? What is it that
Speaker 6: US can do to Israel is not doing to these
Speaker 6: people already?
Speaker 2: Well, that's a good question. I don't have an answer
Speaker 2: for that. But when when you make a threat like that,
Speaker 2: whether it's in a barroom and you say to some
Speaker 2: some guy, you don't want to go outside and settle this,
Speaker 2: and the guy says yes. At that point, what do
Speaker 2: you do, now, go outside and settle it. You got
Speaker 2: well on second thought.
Speaker 6: And then the other one is the Senate in the
Speaker 6: Congress is not going to allow the president put troops
Speaker 6: into Iran anywhere. We didn't know. That has to go
Speaker 6: through the legislative branch. And they're not going to approve
Speaker 6: us putting soldiers on the ground.
Speaker 2: They could they do under under the War Powers Act.
Speaker 2: They allow I think a ninety day deployment. So if
Speaker 2: for example, there was a use for you know, Navy
Speaker 2: seals or you know special forces type operation for example,
Speaker 2: there was no advance approval to the best of my knowledge,
Speaker 2: when Osama bin Laden was dealt with. You know, I
Speaker 2: think that was done by the military, and I don't
Speaker 2: think that that situation an He wanted to the Oval
Speaker 2: office and said, look, guys, I want you to know,
Speaker 2: a couple of nights from now Osa have been Laden
Speaker 2: is going to go scuppers up. I don't think so.
Speaker 6: Yeah, And in a way I agree with you, Dan,
Speaker 6: But like I said, what else can he do that.
Speaker 6: Israel hasn't done it. The Israel's bombing the hell out,
Speaker 6: What is the US going to do?
Speaker 2: Yeah, And the problem is they have hostages. So even
Speaker 2: if you wanted to hit him with a with a
Speaker 2: big weapon, even at ted him with a tactical nuke,
Speaker 2: what's that going to do to the hostages?
Speaker 6: And that'll upset the world oil supply, That'll just totally
Speaker 6: dismantle the Middle East. That's not the move to go.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, he certainly has not out there, and it
Speaker 2: will be remembered. I guarantee you that that if nothing happens,
Speaker 2: the media is going to be quick to remind him
Speaker 2: of the threat that he has issued.
Speaker 6: Right, true, that is true. But but the other line
Speaker 6: is definitely Israel has the right to defend themselves one thousand.
Speaker 6: But where is the attack on the US. There is
Speaker 6: no attack on the US over there. They're attacking an ally,
Speaker 6: but there's no threat to the United States from Hesbola
Speaker 6: and all those people over there.
Speaker 2: Well, again, I think that if hezbolah Ojamas were able
Speaker 2: to take out the government of Israel, that would have
Speaker 2: a tremendous impact in the Middle East and our interests
Speaker 2: over the.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, that's much.
Speaker 2: We haven't the Middle East, but that's not.
Speaker 6: Gonna happen there. Israelis are actually very tough, resilient military.
Speaker 6: They can handle them. So they've been handled themselves for
Speaker 6: the last fifty sixty years.
Speaker 2: I understand that, but it comes a point in time
Speaker 2: where where they have been they have handled so much.
Speaker 2: We need to support Israel. I mean, that's that's.
Speaker 6: Why I do it, needs to defend themselves. But Dan,
Speaker 6: you made a good point. Maybe he wrote a check
Speaker 6: you can't cash.
Speaker 2: Maybe what we'll say, we'll see. I think that's exactly
Speaker 2: what some would fear. Roger, thank you for your call.
Speaker 2: I'm up against my eleven o'clock news, so I got
Speaker 2: to let you go reluctantly. Thank you very much. Dan,
Speaker 2: have a great one. Good night, and we'll take a
Speaker 2: quick break here as we approach the the eleven o'clock news.
Speaker 2: We have one hour left to go. I would like
Speaker 2: to continue to talk about this. You have the option
Speaker 2: of lighting up the lines or I will move on
Speaker 2: to something else. It's as simple as that. Okay, coming
Speaker 2: back on nightside