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<v Speaker 8>Oh hey, it's that lady who's both a stranger and

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<v Speaker 8>also your Internet dad. Ali Ward back with a light

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<v Speaker 8>and a fluffy episode of Ologies. Ooh, things are getting

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<v Speaker 8>dark and stormy, or maybe puffy and beautiful and shaped

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<v Speaker 8>like a dinosaur. Because it's Clouds and this is smologies

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<v Speaker 8>and smologies are versions of our classic episodes that we've

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<v Speaker 8>edited down to be shorter, and we've also taken out

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<v Speaker 8>any language that might be objectionable, so it's safe for

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<v Speaker 8>kids and it's safe for all ages. If you are

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<v Speaker 8>looking for the full version of Clouds and you've got

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<v Speaker 8>some more time and you're not around Smologites, then the

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<v Speaker 8>full length version is linked in the show notes. But

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<v Speaker 8>if you're here for the smaller, shorter episodes that are grated, enjoy. Okay,

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<v Speaker 8>this is a big one. It has been looming overhead

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<v Speaker 8>since the first time I encountered a.

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<v Speaker 7>List of possible ologies.

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<v Speaker 8>This is over a decade ago, and I remember seeing

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<v Speaker 8>nephology and thinking immediately like.

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<v Speaker 7>Who does that? Who is one?

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<v Speaker 8>And it was on my mind like a puffy thought

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<v Speaker 8>bubble over my head so much that if you listen

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<v Speaker 8>to the ending theme music, you will hear meteorology nephology.

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<v Speaker 8>So of course you know, I'm bumped to get my

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<v Speaker 8>head into the clouds for this.

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<v Speaker 7>Okay.

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<v Speaker 8>Nephology is the study of clouds. Okay, this is very

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<v Speaker 8>much a real word. It can mean a scientist of

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<v Speaker 8>clouds or just someone who likes to gaze up and

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<v Speaker 8>look at the clouds and would hug a cloud if

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<v Speaker 8>they could, and is like clouds are tight.

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<v Speaker 7>Now.

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<v Speaker 8>Nef comes from the Greek for cloud straight up. But

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<v Speaker 8>it is not to be confused with the objects of nephrology,

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<v Speaker 8>which has an R in it that means the kidneys,

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<v Speaker 8>your p organs, which we will explore another time.

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<v Speaker 7>I promise. Okay.

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<v Speaker 8>So this ologist, this nephologist, I happened upon on Twitter

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<v Speaker 8>and she was like, hey, me up for that cloud chat.

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<v Speaker 8>Anytime I was thrilled, I was nervous. She came over

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<v Speaker 8>to my house. We sat on my couch with my

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<v Speaker 8>sleeping indoor raccoon Grammy just inches away, and we looked

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<v Speaker 8>out of the atmosphere while we discussed what is a cloud?

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<v Speaker 8>What are they called?

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<v Speaker 7>And why?

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<v Speaker 8>What ancient weather adages can we actually rely on diamond

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<v Speaker 8>rain and clouds shaped like everything under the sun with

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<v Speaker 8>atmospheric scientist professional cloud looker at her and nephologist doctor

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<v Speaker 8>Rachel Storer.

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<v Speaker 4>Knowlogious alogy minology knowlogist.

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<v Speaker 8>Do you know that you are a nephologist?

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<v Speaker 7>I didn't until you said that word.

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<v Speaker 8>I was going to ask if people call you a

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<v Speaker 8>nephrologis a lot but they don't even call you an apologist.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh, nobody calls me that.

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<v Speaker 5>No, some of my friends call me a cloud doctor,

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<v Speaker 5>which I use that one for some of my like

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<v Speaker 5>social media and stuff.

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<v Speaker 7>I just think that sounds neat a doctor cloud.

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<v Speaker 8>Let's get to the nitty gritty.

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<v Speaker 7>What is a cloud?

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<v Speaker 8>What is it?

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<v Speaker 7>It's water in the air. It is it is a

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<v Speaker 7>lot of water in the air. Okay, so if you

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<v Speaker 7>like look at just a regular cloud.

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<v Speaker 5>I think I'm going to probably get the numbers wrong,

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<v Speaker 5>but it's literally can be like a ton.

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<v Speaker 7>Of water in a cloud, but the droplets are just so.

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<v Speaker 5>So small, and you know, they just can like hang

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<v Speaker 5>out there in the air and the light.

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<v Speaker 7>Reflects off of them, and there's enough of them that

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<v Speaker 7>we see it as white or gray or whatever.

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<v Speaker 8>So you are looking at a cloud and you're like,

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<v Speaker 8>it's puffy, it's light, it's in the air, and it's

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<v Speaker 8>just an absolute ton of water above your head. And

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<v Speaker 8>the reason it's a cloud and not a puddle is

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<v Speaker 8>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, so all the droplets are really small, I mean

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<v Speaker 5>literally like tens of microns across it is a cloud droplet,

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<v Speaker 5>and so it's just so light, it has so little

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<v Speaker 5>mass that just like the little bits of air moving

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<v Speaker 5>up and around are enough to sort of keep it

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<v Speaker 5>in place, and so it's you know, it's not until

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<v Speaker 5>the drop gets big enough, until it forms like a

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<v Speaker 5>rain droplet, that it's sort of heavy enough to fall

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<v Speaker 5>on its own.

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<v Speaker 8>So there is a tipping point obviously in clouds where

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<v Speaker 8>there's enough water vapor that condenses, where the droplets can't

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<v Speaker 8>be buoyed by the air underneath it.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, sort of like eventually there's just enough water, and

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<v Speaker 5>you know, the more water you have in a cloud,

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<v Speaker 5>the more the water is gonna bump against other water

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<v Speaker 5>droplets and they start to stick together, and you know,

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<v Speaker 5>water vaple condense directly onto water droplets, and they'll grow

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<v Speaker 5>as long as it's moist enough and then yeah, eventually

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<v Speaker 5>the drops will get big enough that they'll fall.

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<v Speaker 8>Oh okay, so let's talk about shapes of clouds.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, The sort of two main type set are stratus

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<v Speaker 5>and cumulus. And so the sort of difference there is

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<v Speaker 5>that as clouds are convective, which means that they form

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<v Speaker 5>because there's air that's sort of warmer than its surroundings

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<v Speaker 5>and it bubbles up like like you would have bubbles

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<v Speaker 5>and boiling.

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<v Speaker 7>Water or whatever. You just you have air that bubbles up.

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<v Speaker 5>And so that's sort of why they tend to be

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<v Speaker 5>like puffy and bumpy on the top and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 5>The sky's always have the fluffy clouds, and those are

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<v Speaker 5>the ones that tend to if you're going to have

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<v Speaker 5>storms that those are convective clouds.

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<v Speaker 8>So those are the puffy, fluffy yeah, cotten candy clouds

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<v Speaker 8>are like cumulus. And then there's this stratus.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, so stratus literally the word like strata means layer,

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<v Speaker 5>So stratus clouds are generally layered, which means that they're

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<v Speaker 5>sort of forming from sort of a larger area that's

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<v Speaker 5>rising a lot more slowly. So like over the ocean,

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<v Speaker 5>where things are generally sort of similar everywhere, then you

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<v Speaker 5>tend to get like strato cumulus over the ocean, or

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<v Speaker 5>if it's like a really rainy, drizzly day a lot

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<v Speaker 5>of times that will be like there'll be like a

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<v Speaker 5>front coming through that's sort of larger, and so there's,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, a big air mass that's just sort of

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<v Speaker 5>moving slowly up, and so you get sort of these flat,

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<v Speaker 5>sort of layered clouds.

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<v Speaker 8>Oh so it's like a pancake is a stratus cloud

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<v Speaker 8>and a cumulus is a muffin.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, okay, yeah, I'll take it.

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<v Speaker 8>And then I guess maybe would a strato cumulus be

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<v Speaker 8>like a waffle?

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<v Speaker 7>Sure? Okay, why not?

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<v Speaker 8>So hungry? And so then okay, what are some other

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<v Speaker 8>types of clouds? Like what is a like a pyroclastic

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<v Speaker 8>cloud or a lenticular?

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<v Speaker 7>Like what are all these terms?

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<v Speaker 5>So pyrocumulus clouds are really cool and also terrifying and

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<v Speaker 5>kind of sad because they're what happens when you have

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<v Speaker 5>fire pyro Right, So pyrocumulus is basically, when you get

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<v Speaker 5>so much heat from the fire that it forces convection

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<v Speaker 5>on its own ps.

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<v Speaker 8>Why should anyone care about the meaning of convection when

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<v Speaker 8>it's not being used to describe an oven that's making

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<v Speaker 8>me cookies. Well, convection just means a circular current or

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<v Speaker 8>gas or liquid is less dense and it rises, and

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<v Speaker 8>then the cooler stuff is more dense and it falls.

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<v Speaker 8>And this happens in weather patterns a bunch because the

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<v Speaker 8>surface of the earth is warm, so it heats air.

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<v Speaker 8>That air rises, and then the cooler air above it

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<v Speaker 8>falls like that gets heated by the earth that rises,

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<v Speaker 8>et cetera, et cetera, which, let's be honest, is almost

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<v Speaker 8>as cool as cookies. That's pretty interesting. Now. Pyrocumulus or

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<v Speaker 8>phlammogenitis clouds have terrible names, but they look like fluffy, puffy,

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<v Speaker 8>billowy pillowy steam clouds.

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<v Speaker 5>And so you get these are like really strong, like

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<v Speaker 5>really crazy colorflowery, convectiony.

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<v Speaker 7>Sort of clouds that form.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, I've seen them here over the mountains sometimes

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<v Speaker 5>occasionally when we've gone bad fires.

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<v Speaker 8>Oh my god, what about a lenticular cloud?

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<v Speaker 5>But lenticular clouds are awesome. Okay, But a lenticular cloud

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<v Speaker 5>is a wave cloud. So it forms when air is

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<v Speaker 5>forced over a mountain. Oh and air, So if the

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<v Speaker 5>air atmosphere in general is kind of stable, then when

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<v Speaker 5>air goes up, it'll sort of go back down again,

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<v Speaker 5>and it'll go sort of up and down in like

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<v Speaker 5>this like large wave, and in the parts where it

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<v Speaker 5>goes up, a cloud will form if you know conditions

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<v Speaker 5>are right, and so you get sort of this.

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<v Speaker 7>There are these people call them like UFO clouds.

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<v Speaker 5>A lot of times they have almost this upho shape

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<v Speaker 5>to them because they just form in the little top

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<v Speaker 5>part of this wave, and so you get all these

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<v Speaker 5>really cool and sometimes they build up on top of

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<v Speaker 5>each other. When I lived in Colorado, we used to

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<v Speaker 5>get the most amazing lenticular clouds. And also, like you

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<v Speaker 5>if you ever look at like pictures of like Mountaineer

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<v Speaker 5>and Washington, sometimes they'll form like on top of the

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<v Speaker 5>mountain and you'll get this like a really cool like

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<v Speaker 5>layered It's hard.

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<v Speaker 7>To describe with just words, but oh, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 7>look it up.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, y'all, are you sitting have you seen a lenticular cloud?

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<v Speaker 8>They look like sky pancakes or UFOs or like stacks

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<v Speaker 8>of hanuka gelp. And the word lenticular comes from lens

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<v Speaker 8>shaped like a bulging disc.

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<v Speaker 7>Of a lens. Also, the word lens are.

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<v Speaker 8>You even capable of dealing with this right now?

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<v Speaker 7>I don't think you are.

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<v Speaker 8>It comes from the Latin for lentil. So these giant

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<v Speaker 8>disk like clouds are like big lentil pillows. And I'll

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<v Speaker 8>real thing. You mentioned nimbus and anvil clouds.

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<v Speaker 7>I never knew that. I did not know that.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, So cumulo nimbus is like a thunderstorm basically, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>that's And then anvil clouds are so literally like the

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<v Speaker 5>above that is the stratosphere, and that layer of that

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<v Speaker 5>So they spread out and that's where and it's they're

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<v Speaker 7>They look sort of like an anvil. Oh my god, eh.

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<v Speaker 8>do in fact look like anvils. And their full name

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<v Speaker 8>is cumulonimbus incus, and the cumulo means heaped, so they're

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<v Speaker 8>like a bunch of heaps of whip cream. And the

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<v Speaker 8>nimbus means rainstorm, and incus in Latin just means anvil.

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<v Speaker 8>So when this rising air hits the tropopause, that's the

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<v Speaker 8>boundary between the lowest level of our atmosphere and the

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<v Speaker 8>next level stratosphere. So the cloud hits that and it's like, oh, shoot,

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<v Speaker 8>that's a ceiling. Okay, I'm just gonna casually fan out.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm gonna act normal. Hopefully nobody noticed. It doesn't even

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<v Speaker 8>know how cool it is. How does the cloud even form?

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<v Speaker 5>You need the sort of basics that you need our

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<v Speaker 5>moisture and something for the moisture to condense onto and

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<v Speaker 5>rising for some reason, like like for a convective cloud,

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<v Speaker 5>that gets like buoyant, it's warmed in there around it.

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<v Speaker 5>Or like I said, if you have air that's moving

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<v Speaker 5>over front or over a mountain, then when the air

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<v Speaker 5>and therefore the air gets colder.

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<v Speaker 8>It's funny that something so beautiful that we see every

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<v Speaker 8>day is so complicated, you know what I.

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<v Speaker 5>Mean, And that's part of what I love about it. Right,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm like, Okay, due point, saturation, vapor pressure. You don't

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<v Speaker 5>want to hear these things.

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<v Speaker 8>Those are great those are great points.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, So you've heard the due point. So the dew

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<v Speaker 5>point is the temperature at which water would condense given

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<v Speaker 5>the amount of moisture that's currently in the air. Right,

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<v Speaker 5>So the higher the dew point, the more humid it is. Okay,

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<v Speaker 5>So as you raise air, it gets cooler, and so

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<v Speaker 5>eventually it'll get to where it equals the due point

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<v Speaker 5>of that sort of bit of air that's rising, Okay,

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<v Speaker 5>And so at that point condensation can happen.

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<v Speaker 8>Oh okay, okay, so quick recap. The dew point point

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<v Speaker 8>is the temperature that water would start to condense, and

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<v Speaker 8>a fifty degree due point is pretty comfy, but a

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<v Speaker 8>seventy degree due point is just getting into swamp bottom territory.

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<v Speaker 8>Now living in LA, this due point info was new

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<v Speaker 8>to me. I had not the foggiest idea. And when

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<v Speaker 8>does something become a cloud if it's foggy? If you

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<v Speaker 8>know what I mean, is fog a cloud?

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<v Speaker 7>Foggy is a cloud?

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<v Speaker 5>Fog is just a cloud that's touching the ground. That's cool,

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<v Speaker 5>literally all it is.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, how far does it have to go before it's

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<v Speaker 7>a cloud?

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<v Speaker 8>Just above your head like it is a cloud? Is

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<v Speaker 8>that a philosophical or a meteorological question?

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, I think it's it's one of those like

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<v Speaker 5>fuzzy things because if it's funny like I you know,

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<v Speaker 5>if you fly through a cloud, right, like when are

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<v Speaker 5>you in the cloud?

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<v Speaker 7>And when are you not in the cloud?

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<v Speaker 8>Right?

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<v Speaker 7>Because there's like all those little.

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<v Speaker 5>Water droplets and at some point it's enough that you

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<v Speaker 5>can see it, But if you look at it with

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<v Speaker 5>like a light r there's a lot more that you

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<v Speaker 5>or whatever.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, So at what point is it a cloud

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<v Speaker 7>versus not a cloud?

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<v Speaker 4>Right?

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<v Speaker 5>It's not like there's weird hard boundaries, right, so you know,

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<v Speaker 5>touching the ground versus not, like, you know, give a

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<v Speaker 5>wiggle room.

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<v Speaker 8>Okay, do you look for faces in clouds? Do you

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<v Speaker 8>still look for shapes and clouds?

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<v Speaker 7>I don't really go out of my way too.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, if I see it, i'll you know, take

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<v Speaker 5>note of it or whatever. But I tend to, I

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<v Speaker 5>mean I tend to just sort of like stare agog

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<v Speaker 5>at them, you know, just like, oh, it's so pretty.

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<v Speaker 8>So we sat on my couch staring at the sky

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<v Speaker 8>which was hazy with stripy things in it. They were

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<v Speaker 8>probably stratus or cumulus.

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<v Speaker 7>Right, what is the what are these today?

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<v Speaker 8>These are stratus?

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<v Speaker 7>Those are serious? What is it Cerrus? So Cirrus is

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<v Speaker 7>really high up basically. Oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>So there's sort of like three kind of like levels

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<v Speaker 5>that we sort of think about in terms of like

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<v Speaker 5>higher up ones are serious. The middle ones are like Alto,

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<v Speaker 5>So we have like Alto stratus or whatever, and then

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<v Speaker 5>the low ones are like just like the stratus or

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<v Speaker 5>cumulus or you know, things like that.

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<v Speaker 8>So you can tack on a prefix to tell you

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<v Speaker 8>where in the sky it is. Yeah, I have so

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<v Speaker 8>Okay, back to your cloud questions. Okay, wants to know

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<v Speaker 8>why your cloud's white.

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<v Speaker 5>I started out this a little bit earlier, because you

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<v Speaker 5>have a lot of droplets all in the same place,

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<v Speaker 5>and the light bounces off of them and gets scattered.

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<v Speaker 7>I guess they at an all the.

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<v Speaker 5>Different directions, and so that that looks to our eyes

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<v Speaker 5>like white.

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<v Speaker 7>Basically, huh.

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<v Speaker 8>First time question asker Navarro wants to know in places

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<v Speaker 8>like Brooklyn, Big Up, it's overcast almost every day only

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<v Speaker 8>in the winter. No visible sun, just a silvery white

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<v Speaker 8>haze blanketing the entire sky. I actually got curious and

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<v Speaker 8>googled it the other day. It turns out the explanation

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<v Speaker 8>is nephological in nature, So can you please explain? And

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<v Speaker 8>Jack Pourier and Courtney Ryan also have those questions about

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<v Speaker 8>why is it cloud in the winter.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, so, I mean I'm from Pennsylvania originally, and so

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<v Speaker 7>I know the great skies of winter. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>So a lot of it is just the kind of

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<v Speaker 5>clouds that tend to form. So you know, a lot

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<v Speaker 5>of like the stratus clouds, like I said, form when

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<v Speaker 5>the atmosphere is stable, and so you get sort of

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<v Speaker 5>like these blankety the stratus clouds. And in the winter generally,

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<v Speaker 5>the type of weather that happens tends to be that

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<v Speaker 5>type of weather. And we don't get a lot of

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<v Speaker 5>sun right that you or know of the Earth's tilt

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<v Speaker 5>is like such that we're not getting a lot of

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<v Speaker 5>sun that time here, and so like the ground's not

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<v Speaker 5>heating up, and so you don't get a lot of

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<v Speaker 5>like convective clouds or anything like that, and so a

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<v Speaker 5>lot of the stuff is just stratisy, overcast sort of stuff.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm from San Francisco and I just call that sunscreen.

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<v Speaker 8>I myself a foggy day off soap weather JKJK. The

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<v Speaker 8>Skin Cancer Foundation says that up to eighty percent of

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<v Speaker 8>the Sun's UV rays can pass right through clouds. So

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<v Speaker 8>sunscreen just wants to be friends. It's here to help

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<v Speaker 8>use it. A lot of people, of course, want to

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<v Speaker 8>know about climate change. Emily, Elaine Laboard, Nikaia Wooten, who's

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<v Speaker 8>a first time question asker, Haley Everson first time question asker.

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<v Speaker 7>Also Sarah Does.

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<v Speaker 8>And Jay, Julie bear Schminnie Thompson, and JANEU. They all

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<v Speaker 8>want to know. In Haley's words, will climate change affect

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<v Speaker 8>the clouds we see? And will certain types of clouds

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<v Speaker 8>become less common or even go extinct?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh okay, so it's a really complicated question that we

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<v Speaker 5>don't really know the answer to, but I mean the

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<v Speaker 5>short answer is yes, it will change things. As it

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<v Speaker 5>gets warmer, sort of can like shift climate pattern around,

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<v Speaker 5>and so you know, places that maybe weren't warm enough

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<v Speaker 5>for there to be like a lot of conductive clouds

428
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<v Speaker 5>might get more of those, or you can sort of

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<v Speaker 5>shift where the main like storm track regions happen. And

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<v Speaker 5>then there's also like over the oceans, there's like these

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<v Speaker 5>large strata cumulus layers, and there's a lot of open

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<v Speaker 5>questions as to how those will change. You know, there

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<v Speaker 5>wouldn't be a cloud that would go extinct. That would

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<v Speaker 5>make me very sad. But it's just it's more about

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<v Speaker 5>like small shifts and the important thing there is like

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<v Speaker 5>how that affects like the radiation, because there's all these

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<v Speaker 5>feedbacks with warming, and how that affects the precipitation. Those

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<v Speaker 5>are the sort of more important questions for you know

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<v Speaker 5>what we actually want to understand.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, are we going to get drier as we get warmer?

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<v Speaker 7>So it depends on where you are.

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<v Speaker 5>There's one of the sort of things that gets thrown

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<v Speaker 5>a lot is this like rich get richer idea where

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<v Speaker 5>the places that are moist will get moister and the

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<v Speaker 5>places that are dry will get drier, which is unfortunate, right,

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<v Speaker 5>Like you know, if you live in a place it's

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<v Speaker 5>like prone to flooding, you don't want more of that,

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<v Speaker 5>And if if you live in California, you don't want

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<v Speaker 5>more drought. Like there's a lot of indications that that

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<v Speaker 5>might be the way things are going.

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<v Speaker 8>Hoof Yeah, I know that this is probably a question.

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<v Speaker 8>You get a lot the difference between weather and climate. Yeah,

453
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<v Speaker 8>do you have to explain that a lot?

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<v Speaker 7>It's a first step.

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<v Speaker 5>A lot of the time because people a lot of

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<v Speaker 5>times when people have doubts about climate change, a lot

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<v Speaker 5>of it is like they.

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<v Speaker 7>Have all these distrust of the models that we use,

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<v Speaker 7>or people will just be like, oh, it's it's cold,

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<v Speaker 7>where's that global warming?

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<v Speaker 9>Right?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, So there's like a lot of really cool analogies

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<v Speaker 5>for it that I try to remember. But so, like

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<v Speaker 5>one of the obvious ones is that the climate is

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<v Speaker 5>the clothes that are in your closet, and the weather

466
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<v Speaker 5>is the clothes that you wear.

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<v Speaker 7>Ha ha.

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<v Speaker 8>That's a great way to get people to understand the difference,

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<v Speaker 8>you know. Elizabeth Ganie wants to know why do cumulo

470
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<v Speaker 8>nimbus clouds appear to us as such crazy colors like

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<v Speaker 8>yellow and green and purple.

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<v Speaker 5>So it depends on sort of what's in them and

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<v Speaker 5>how the lightest gattering. Like the darker that a cloud

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<v Speaker 5>is usually the more stuff, isn't it, right, because it's

475
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<v Speaker 5>blocking the light above it. Like if it's really dark overhead,

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<v Speaker 5>there's sort of like more moisture in that cloud, right,

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<v Speaker 5>Like if it rains.

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<v Speaker 7>The clouds overhead are usually like really dark gray.

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<v Speaker 5>Sometimes cumulinimous cloud will tend to look greenish, and often

480
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<v Speaker 5>that means that there's hail in it.

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<v Speaker 7>What because of just the hail.

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<v Speaker 5>Is really big and it just scatters light in a

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<v Speaker 5>different way. And so a lot of times, like if

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<v Speaker 5>there's hail in a cloud, it'll have this sort.

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<v Speaker 7>Of greenish tinge to it.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and then if you get clouds like on the horizon,

487
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<v Speaker 5>it all you get all sorts of different color effects

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<v Speaker 5>because of the angle of the light and the way

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<v Speaker 5>that it scatters and stuff.

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<v Speaker 8>Eliza Gaston wants to know how much truth is there

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<v Speaker 8>in the saying red sales at night sailors to light,

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<v Speaker 8>red sales in the morn sailors be warned. You ever

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<v Speaker 8>heard that?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I've heard red skies at night sailors delight light.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's the There is actually some truth to it,

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<v Speaker 5>and it has to do with the kind of clouds

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<v Speaker 5>that you get.

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<v Speaker 7>And it's like.

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<v Speaker 5>If you have like an approaching weather system versus something

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<v Speaker 5>that's just passed, where you'll see like cirrus clouds in

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<v Speaker 5>the way that the light scatters off of them and

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<v Speaker 5>stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 8>So this adage is attributed to everyone from Shakespeare to

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<v Speaker 8>Jesus literally, and the logic behind it is to quote

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<v Speaker 8>the Library of Congress. When we see a red sky

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<v Speaker 8>at night, this means that the setting sun is sending

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<v Speaker 8>its light through a high concentration of dust particles, and

508
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<v Speaker 8>this usually indicates a high pressure and stable air coming

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<v Speaker 8>in from the west. Basically, good weather will follow, and

510
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<v Speaker 8>a red sunrise can mean that good weather has passed.

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<v Speaker 8>And if it's deep, fiery red, there may be a

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<v Speaker 8>lot of water in the atmosphere. End quote. So red

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<v Speaker 8>skies in the morning, gather your galoshes, which means, if

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<v Speaker 8>you live in la you can start canceling your plants.

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<v Speaker 8>We don't do rain. Lauren Kiperl wants to know how

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<v Speaker 8>heavy does a cloud need to be before it rains.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, so it's not necessarily about the heaviness of the cloud.

518
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<v Speaker 5>It's about the heaviness of the drops.

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<v Speaker 7>Okay.

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<v Speaker 5>There has to be enough water so that like rain

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<v Speaker 5>can form. You know, a rain drop that has to

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<v Speaker 5>be certain sort of a certain size before it's enough

523
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<v Speaker 5>heavy enough to fall through their ballpark. Like a rain

524
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<v Speaker 5>drop is like I don't know, a millimeter or something

525
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<v Speaker 5>like that.

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<v Speaker 8>Okayish oh. Pandora two says that my son Shay who's

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<v Speaker 8>nine and is a first time asker wants to know

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<v Speaker 8>why are clouds never square?

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<v Speaker 7>Oh that's neat. I like that kids ask the best questions.

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<v Speaker 5>Because I would say probably because of like turbulence and

531
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<v Speaker 5>arizonays moving around and stuff like that. Plus there's like

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<v Speaker 5>all this sort of like chaotic stuff that happens on

533
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<v Speaker 5>the small scale and clouds where you know, just because

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<v Speaker 5>you have sort of similar conditions right here, they won't

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<v Speaker 5>be exactly the same ten feet away, and so maybe

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<v Speaker 5>you'll get a little bit more cloud here than you

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<v Speaker 5>get there, and it's all kind of uneven.

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<v Speaker 8>But they're flat on the bottom.

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<v Speaker 7>They're pretty flat in the bottom.

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<v Speaker 8>Melissa Croce wants to know, first time question asker, what

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<v Speaker 8>do we know about clouds on other planets? If anything?

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<v Speaker 8>Are there different types of clouds on those planets?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, So the neat thing about clouds on other planets

544
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<v Speaker 5>is that a lot of them aren't water clouds, which

545
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<v Speaker 5>is like just sort of mind boggling to think about,

546
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<v Speaker 5>because the temperatures are like so much colder, for instance,

547
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<v Speaker 5>that you can get like.

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<v Speaker 7>Methane clouds stuff like that. Yeah, so that's pretty neat.

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<v Speaker 8>Okay, I checked into this and NASA JPL researchers have

550
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<v Speaker 8>calculated that in the methane stormy regions of Saturn, it

551
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<v Speaker 8>could rain up to two point two million pounds of

552
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<v Speaker 8>diamonds annually. You have a crush on Saturn, now, don't you.

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<v Speaker 8>If you like it, you can have to put a

554
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<v Speaker 8>ring on it. Rings. Okay. You know what's funny about

555
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<v Speaker 8>that is when I picture raining diamonds, I picture it

556
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<v Speaker 8>like cut gemstones and not just rocks.

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<v Speaker 7>Like I picture that.

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<v Speaker 5>There's an episode of Doctor Who I think where there's

559
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<v Speaker 5>like something like that, some sort of diamond planet, like

560
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<v Speaker 5>they're already.

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<v Speaker 7>Cut in polish, like the diamond mode. I picture the

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<v Speaker 7>same thing.

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<v Speaker 8>And you're like, ow ow, what do you love the

564
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<v Speaker 8>most about clouds or your work or about being a nephologist,

565
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<v Speaker 8>which you know know you are.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean I just love that, like on a

567
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<v Speaker 5>day when my work is making me crumpy, that I

568
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<v Speaker 5>can just go outside and look at the sky and

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<v Speaker 5>be like, oh, right, that's the thing that I'm studying,

570
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<v Speaker 5>like this cool thing. And you know, I get to

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<v Speaker 5>work with other people who get excited.

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<v Speaker 7>About it too.

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<v Speaker 5>Like the few days of the year that we do

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<v Speaker 5>get a storm come through, there's like a couple of

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<v Speaker 5>us that are like really like the weather we needs

576
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<v Speaker 5>in the group. That'll be like outside, like huddled on

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<v Speaker 5>the side, like, oh my gosh, there's actual weather.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, I would say that you were a ray of sunshine,

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<v Speaker 8>but you're really I feel like that's an insult in

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<v Speaker 8>your work. So you're just very You're a very dense

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<v Speaker 8>and deep, dark, stormy cloud.

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<v Speaker 7>And I mean that as a compliment.

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<v Speaker 8>Okay, that's the best kind of cloud, right, it's I

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<v Speaker 8>love them so as always meet smart people and then

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<v Speaker 8>show notes And if you stick around until the end

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<v Speaker 8>of the episode, I give you a piece of advice,

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<v Speaker 8>And this week's advice is to have a little note

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<v Speaker 8>going when you hear someone mention that they like something

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<v Speaker 8>and you can jot it down. That way, when their

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<v Speaker 8>birthday rolls around or they need a little surprise treat

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<v Speaker 8>to make their day, you say, oh, that's right, they

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<v Speaker 8>love bubblegum, or oh that's right, unicorn stickers are their favorite.

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<v Speaker 8>That way, in the moment, you don't have to rack

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<v Speaker 8>your brain for something to get them. I keep a

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<v Speaker 8>list going of things that my loved ones like. That

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<v Speaker 8>way I remember when their birthday comes around where to

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<v Speaker 8>start when it comes to a gift. Sometimes I make

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<v Speaker 8>a little list of things that I want a couple

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<v Speaker 8>weeks before my birthday. That way, if anyone asked me

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<v Speaker 8>what I want for my birthday, say, oh, I remember,

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<v Speaker 8>and there are a few little tidy treats that I'd like.

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, bybye.

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