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<v Speaker 1>All right, folks, joining us today is Aaron Day and

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<v Speaker 1>he knows a lot more about crypto than I do.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, he also focuses on gold and Silvery's trying

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<v Speaker 1>to get outside of the system. He has a very

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<v Speaker 1>important message about what is happening with CBDC. He believes

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<v Speaker 1>we've already got it effectively. But he's holding classes on

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<v Speaker 1>this and meetings. Tell us a little bit about that.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got in a lot of different places to see.

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<v Speaker 1>One's coming up October the fifth, but you've got them

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<v Speaker 1>all over the place. Tell people what it's about and

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<v Speaker 1>where they can find where these different events are, where

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<v Speaker 1>you do a deep dive into the future of money,

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<v Speaker 1>sovereignty and how to battle the digital central central bank,

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<v Speaker 1>digital currencies. Tell people where they can find that information

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<v Speaker 1>on what's coming up.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, great, then, well thank you for having me

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<v Speaker 2>on again. And so first I want to start by saying,

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<v Speaker 2>so I wrote this book, the Final Countdown, and the

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<v Speaker 2>whole purpose of this book was to explain to people

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<v Speaker 2>the threat of cbdc's basically the imminent demise of the

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<v Speaker 2>Fiat dollar, which I think we're seeing in real time.

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<v Speaker 2>And then the back half of the book provides step

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<v Speaker 2>by step instructions as to how people can do what

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<v Speaker 2>I've done since twenty nineteen, which is I exit using

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<v Speaker 2>a personal banking account twenty nineteen, and I've been living

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<v Speaker 2>on gold, crypto and silver, and so this book outlines

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<v Speaker 2>how to do this. What I found was people read

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<v Speaker 2>the book and said, wow, okay, now I understand what

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<v Speaker 2>the threat is, but I just couldn't take that first

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<v Speaker 2>step to actually either getting a crypto wallet or even

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<v Speaker 2>even buying gold to take into physical custody. So I

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<v Speaker 2>designed these four hour workshops, which we're now doing all

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<v Speaker 2>over the country to basically go through the book, but

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<v Speaker 2>then to actually empower people. So people that come out

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<v Speaker 2>of the workshop will have a crypto wallet, will have crypto,

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<v Speaker 2>will have a gold back, and we'll go and we'll

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<v Speaker 2>hear my full explanation of how I live on these

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<v Speaker 2>things on a day to day basis, how I pay bills,

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<v Speaker 2>how I do all of it. Because this is really

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<v Speaker 2>the step to the only thing we can do to

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<v Speaker 2>stop the central bank digital currency tyranny is to stop

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<v Speaker 2>using the dollar. We're not going to vote our way

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<v Speaker 2>out of this, which we could talk about in great detail.

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<v Speaker 2>So on my website Daylightfreedom dot org. There is a

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<v Speaker 2>tab called Empower, and Empower lists all of the places

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<v Speaker 2>that we are looking to host workshops. We have three

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<v Speaker 2>that are scheduled already that we're selling tickets for for

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<v Speaker 2>the rest of this year. Our next event is in

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<v Speaker 2>New Jersey on October the fifth, Then we have one

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<v Speaker 2>in Omaha on Saturday November ninth, and then we will

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<v Speaker 2>be in Nashville on Saturday, December the fourteenth, and we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to continue So we're going to continue to need

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<v Speaker 2>I will be doing probably one of these a month

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<v Speaker 2>throughout all of next year. But those are our next

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<v Speaker 2>next big events and so they've been really successful so

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<v Speaker 2>far because it really has been helpful. But in addition

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<v Speaker 2>to that, on my website, there's an informed tab and

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<v Speaker 2>a link to alternative assets. And this is an important

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<v Speaker 2>section because this lists all of the things that I'm

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<v Speaker 2>currently using on a day to day basis and living

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<v Speaker 2>outside of the banking system, and this list changes, so.

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<v Speaker 3>I have to be very clear about that.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, if you bought my book a year ago,

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<v Speaker 2>it's out of date, and so I have to keep

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<v Speaker 2>everybody a prize as to what's going on because of

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<v Speaker 2>all the regulatory issues.

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<v Speaker 3>And changes and technology and everything else.

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<v Speaker 2>So I keep that open and publicly available so that

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<v Speaker 2>everybody can see the latest and greatest.

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<v Speaker 1>That's amazing. You are essentially a financial prepper and you're

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<v Speaker 1>living the life off grid prepper, but financially speaking, that

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<v Speaker 1>is excellent. The final countdown to show you how to

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<v Speaker 1>get out of the system, how to live without a

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<v Speaker 1>bank account and a private having all your transaction private.

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<v Speaker 1>That's amazing. And those workshops, I see you got one

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<v Speaker 1>coming up in Nashville to get somebody from my family

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<v Speaker 1>go over there and take that class. That's great information

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<v Speaker 1>because that's the key thing everybody understands. What is how

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<v Speaker 1>the tyranny is rolling out of Washington and the Fiat

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<v Speaker 1>currency allows them to bribe and blackmail everybody at every level,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it is state government or local government, or whether

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<v Speaker 1>it's hospitals or whatever. They're always bribing and blackmailing people

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<v Speaker 1>with their cash, and that is the heart of the

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<v Speaker 1>tyranny that is there, and it's also going to affect

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<v Speaker 1>us materially if we are not outside of that system.

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<v Speaker 1>That's very important. But you also say that we already

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<v Speaker 1>are in CBBC tell us a little bit about that

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<v Speaker 1>your position.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so when I start, so when I started this entirey,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I exit political activism in twenty eighteen, stopped

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<v Speaker 2>using the dollar, and then COVID hit, and then all

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<v Speaker 2>of a sudden, I saw friends of mine be targeted

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<v Speaker 2>by the federal government that were involved in crypto. So

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<v Speaker 2>Ian Freeman, who along with Roger Bear, introduced me to bitcoin.

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<v Speaker 2>In twenty twelve, Ian was arrested for selling bitcoin without

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<v Speaker 2>a license. Yes, and I went to his sentencing hearing

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<v Speaker 2>and he's now in federal prison.

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<v Speaker 3>For eight years.

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<v Speaker 2>Roger is now in say he was arrested and thrown

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<v Speaker 2>into the same prison as John McAfee or these trumped up,

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<v Speaker 2>made up like tax issues from over a decade ago.

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<v Speaker 2>He actually left the United States. Roger did renounced as

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<v Speaker 2>the United States citizenship in twenty fourteen, and they are

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<v Speaker 2>going after him for this kind of made up stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>But it happened to be three weeks after he published

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<v Speaker 2>this book Hijacking Bitcoin, where he explains an excruciating detail

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<v Speaker 2>how bitcoin was hijacked by by people that were not

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<v Speaker 2>interested in having a Bitcoin as an alternative to cbdc's. Basically,

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<v Speaker 2>they destroyed the use case of bitcoin, which was supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to be Bitcoin was supposed to be digital cash. Now

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<v Speaker 2>it's this store of value that you're never supposed to

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<v Speaker 2>spend and you're supposed to buy through black Rock, and

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<v Speaker 2>there are multiple intermediaries, and that is the exact opposite.

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<v Speaker 2>So Roger who was probably the most influential person in

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<v Speaker 2>spreading bitcoin from twenty ten to twenty fifteen, he actually

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<v Speaker 2>earned the nickname Bitcoin Jesus. So he was the first

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<v Speaker 2>person to accept bitcoin as a retailer. He was the

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<v Speaker 2>first investor in bitcoin companies. You know, he probably gave

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<v Speaker 2>away tens of thousands of bitcoin, and he was there

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<v Speaker 2>when this hijacking took place, and he wrote about it,

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<v Speaker 2>and now all of a sudden his speeches is suppressed,

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<v Speaker 2>and so I.

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<v Speaker 1>Essentially went from bitcoin as a currency to bitcoin as

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<v Speaker 1>n FT, right, I mean, you know, it's just that's

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<v Speaker 1>collectible thing. And that's why you see all these things

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<v Speaker 1>about well this guy got a pizza with a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of bitcoin or whatever, he paid this much for the

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<v Speaker 1>pizza and so forth. Because initially that was the purpose

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<v Speaker 1>was to be currency that people could use outside of

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<v Speaker 1>the system. As you point out, it got hijacked. It

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<v Speaker 1>now became this you know, store value that's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be speculated on it, and all of the big investment

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<v Speaker 1>companies pouring into this, and the fact that they've now

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<v Speaker 1>added ETFs on bitcoin other things like that. They have

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<v Speaker 1>completely jumped onto this thing and turned it in to

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<v Speaker 1>a speculative collective, haven't.

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<v Speaker 3>They They have.

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<v Speaker 2>And one other component to this is that bitcoin is

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<v Speaker 2>completely trackable. It's on an open public ledger, and so

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people, I think early on thought it

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<v Speaker 2>was anonymous, and it turns out that it's not anonymous,

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<v Speaker 2>and so now the government, the CIA and others using

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<v Speaker 2>chain analysis can actually track the blockchain and follow and

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<v Speaker 2>figure out who is buying and selling what. And the

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<v Speaker 2>problem with this is that means that they can flag

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<v Speaker 2>one bitcoin as saying, well, this particular bitcoin can't be

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<v Speaker 2>used it's on a blacklist, while whereas this one can

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<v Speaker 2>be used, which means that it's no longer fungible because

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<v Speaker 2>one bitcoin is actually not the same as another bitcoin.

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<v Speaker 2>They're actually so it loses its fundamental property, which is

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<v Speaker 2>why one of the things that's happened in the last

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred and twenty days or so since I was

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<v Speaker 2>on as I've actually moved completely into privacy coins. In fact,

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<v Speaker 2>i've put that first at privacy first on me on

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<v Speaker 2>the list of criter like and sorry, Xono, z A

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<v Speaker 2>n O and Minaro are the two predominant ones that

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<v Speaker 2>I use. Xano is interesting because Xeno is actually built

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<v Speaker 2>on some of the same technology. The developers behind it

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<v Speaker 2>were actually behind the technology that Minero was built on.

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<v Speaker 2>So these are people that have been in cryptography and

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<v Speaker 2>cryptocurrency for for over a decade. But what Xeno allows

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<v Speaker 2>you to do is also create privacy tokens. So I

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<v Speaker 2>guess the simplest way for me to say this is,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, crypto and even cbdc's is tokenized money.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but money only.

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<v Speaker 2>Represents five percent of global assets. Everything else homes real estate, stocks, bonds,

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<v Speaker 2>those are assets that will also be tokenized, and so

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<v Speaker 2>Xeno essentially allows you to tokenize these assets in a

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<v Speaker 2>way that is private and confidential. Because one of the

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<v Speaker 2>other things I've learned since I was on your show

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<v Speaker 2>last is I've really done a deep dive into this

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<v Speaker 2>great taking and what I found, And I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if if you followed that much.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm aware of the documentary. I haven't watched the

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<v Speaker 1>documentary yet, but I'm aware of it. Yeah, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 2>So the gist of the Great Taking is we don't

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<v Speaker 2>own our stocks and bonds in four or one case,

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<v Speaker 2>and there have been a whole bunch of changes to

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<v Speaker 2>UCC codes at the state level that basically, when there's

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<v Speaker 2>the next financial collapse and there's a bankruptcy, our stocks

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<v Speaker 2>and bonds before one case will end up being owned

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<v Speaker 2>by the largest banks. And it turns out that the

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<v Speaker 2>CBDC pilots that they've been working on in the United

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<v Speaker 2>States are also being developed along something alongside something called

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<v Speaker 2>a regulated liability network. And the idea behind regulated liability

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<v Speaker 2>network is they want to take our non monetary assets.

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<v Speaker 2>So they want to take our stocks and bonds and

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<v Speaker 2>other assets and apply the same technology that they're applying

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<v Speaker 2>to CBDCs, so that now all of our assets, not

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<v Speaker 2>just money, can be programmed, tracked, and censored. And so

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<v Speaker 2>when this financial collapse happens, they'll be able to basically

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<v Speaker 2>try brands for our non monetary assets with the click

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<v Speaker 2>of the button. And so that's kind of a horrifying prospect,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's one of the things that I've been studying

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<v Speaker 2>in terms of what the US has been working on.

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<v Speaker 2>And this Regulated Liability Network project is a project between

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<v Speaker 2>the New York for a Reserve mit, five of the

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<v Speaker 2>largest New York financial institutions, the Bank for International Settlements,

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<v Speaker 2>basically all of the players that you would not want

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<v Speaker 2>designing a token system for your for digitizing all of

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<v Speaker 2>your non monetary assets.

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<v Speaker 3>So this is pretty frightening. So I say Zeno.

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<v Speaker 2>Because it is in and of itself, it's a cryptocurrency

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<v Speaker 2>that you can use. It's a privacy currency, but it

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<v Speaker 2>also allows you to tokenize other assets and make those

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<v Speaker 2>assets private and confidential. And by the way, it may

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<v Speaker 2>even be able to be used to make Bitcoin and

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<v Speaker 2>Ethereum and some of the blockchains that are transparent private.

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<v Speaker 2>So those are the two that I've actually spent a

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<v Speaker 2>significant a mount of times. This has been a big

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<v Speaker 2>shift for me. And one thing that I found is

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<v Speaker 2>it's very important to educate people on the need for

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<v Speaker 3>Don't know what's happened.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I guess this is the indoctrination in the

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<v Speaker 2>education system that you were talking about before before I

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<v Speaker 1>but you too can be a celebrity if people see

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<v Speaker 1>everything that you're doing in your life, and it's like

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<v Speaker 1>their life. They don't want privacy and they've been trained

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<v Speaker 1>not to look at it. Before we move away from

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<v Speaker 1>Monaro and Xeno, which I've not heard of before, and

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't used pirate coin, but it's on my list

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<v Speaker 2>to review and it certainly seems to fit all the criteria.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, and I want to say this, I'm constantly

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<v Speaker 2>evaluating new things, so I think pirate coin will probably

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<v Speaker 2>be added to my list as well. And there are

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<v Speaker 2>two types of privacy coins. There are coins that are

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<v Speaker 2>privacy by default, which means, as the user, you don't

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<v Speaker 2>have to do any saying, you don't have to take

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<v Speaker 2>any extra steps to make them private. And then there

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<v Speaker 2>are coins where you can take extra steps and add

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<v Speaker 2>privacy to them, so Bitcoin, cash, light coin, z cash.

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<v Speaker 2>These are I guess I'll call it privacy optional. And

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<v Speaker 2>so my sole focus is on that universe as a

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<v Speaker 2>potential solution because you know, again I interviewed Roger about

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<v Speaker 2>his book Hijacking Bitcoin. Three weeks later he was he

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<v Speaker 2>and my.

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<v Speaker 3>Friend Ian Freeman others are being arrested.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is not and these are non violent people

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<v Speaker 2>who have not committed crime, to be clear, these are

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<v Speaker 2>people that have been promoting freedom and non violence. And

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<v Speaker 2>these are the people that were throwing in prison. And

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<v Speaker 2>this is happening over and over again. With what happened

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<v Speaker 2>with the guy with Telegram, what's happening with these coin

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<v Speaker 2>mixing services. So this is really accelerating. And so what

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<v Speaker 2>people have to understand is the why behind this, which

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<v Speaker 2>is the government doesn't want alternatives to what I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to say is already a CBDC system, but that has

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<v Speaker 2>graduated tier levels of tyranny. And you know, they're the

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<v Speaker 2>ultimate form of CBDC is a global digital currency backed

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<v Speaker 2>by energy credits that is completely programmable, tied to a

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<v Speaker 2>social credit score, where where it's a cash list system

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<v Speaker 2>and all cryptocurrencies have been banned. That's the highest level.

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<v Speaker 2>And I've actually created this little CBDC tyranny and that's

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<v Speaker 2>where they're moving to. But we already have a system today.

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<v Speaker 2>Our dollar today is already digital, it's already programmable, it's

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<v Speaker 2>already survailable in a way that people have no idea

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<v Speaker 2>how bad this is. I mean, people are like, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I see these politicians, whether it's Ted Cruz or Elizabeth

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<v Speaker 2>Warren talk about, well, we have to make sure we

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<v Speaker 2>don't have financial surveillance. And meanwhile, between the Patriot Act,

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<v Speaker 2>the Bank Secrecy Reporting Act, national security letters where they

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<v Speaker 2>can actually shut off your bank account and you can't

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<v Speaker 2>talk to anybody about it, including a lawyer. Now we

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<v Speaker 2>have the IRS working with banks to monitor our financial

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<v Speaker 2>transactions using AI, and on and on and on.

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<v Speaker 3>Civil asset forfeiture.

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<v Speaker 2>So they're already about and I outline in my latest

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<v Speaker 2>article Zero Hedge article, I think thirteen different ways our

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<v Speaker 2>digital money is already being surveilled today. So it's actually

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<v Speaker 2>already as bad as people are worried that it will.

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<v Speaker 3>Become in the future. And that's today. Our money is

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<v Speaker 3>already programmable when you.

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<v Speaker 1>Talk about the IRS. When we talk about the IRS,

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<v Speaker 1>you know it's not just the eighty thousand agents that

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<v Speaker 1>they want to add, but it's also the artificial intelligence.

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<v Speaker 1>And yet we have the politicians who are out there saying, well,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to take taxes off of tips you want

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<v Speaker 1>to vote for me? Now you know that completely. People

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<v Speaker 1>are completely clueless about how this is being weaponized against us,

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<v Speaker 1>and of course both parties are fully on board with it.

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<v Speaker 3>Both parties are on board.

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<v Speaker 2>So when you see a politician say, well, we're worried

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<v Speaker 2>about financial surveillance, and are you worried about the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that the AI that the IRS is already using AI

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<v Speaker 2>to track all of our transactions? Are you worried about

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<v Speaker 2>the fact that the Bank Secrecy Reporting Act already reports

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<v Speaker 2>on I don't think it's.

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<v Speaker 3>Five or ten thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>If you do anything above that amount, it's automatically reported

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<v Speaker 2>with the government. I don't see anybody talking about unwinding

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<v Speaker 2>the tyranny that we already have. And numerous categories of

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<v Speaker 2>businesses have already lost access to banking services. I just

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<v Speaker 2>shared a post a tweet yesterday about somebody who was

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<v Speaker 2>denied the ability to make a purchase at a gun

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<v Speaker 2>store with their credit card. And there was something called

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<v Speaker 2>Operation Choke point one point zero where many many categories

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<v Speaker 2>of businesses have been denied service. And we've seen this

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<v Speaker 2>in the health freedom space, We've seen it in the

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<v Speaker 2>food freedom space, and on and on. And what this

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<v Speaker 2>should tell everybody is that the money is already programmable.

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<v Speaker 2>And when I say programmable, if you've ever had a

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<v Speaker 2>health savings account or a flexible spending account. Give an example,

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<v Speaker 2>optim Bank is the largest provider of health savings accounts

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<v Speaker 2>and health savings account an optim bank it is a bank,

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<v Speaker 2>it is a financial institution, and you're given a card

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<v Speaker 2>and you can only buy reapproved medical items at certain

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<v Speaker 2>times and at certain locations, within certain limits subject to

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<v Speaker 2>auditing and reporting. That is programmable digital money using the

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<v Speaker 2>existing system. There's no big upgrade that has to happen

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<v Speaker 2>for the tyranny that everybody is worried about to kick in. Essentially,

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<v Speaker 2>the Federal Reserve runs on an Oracle database. So money

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<v Speaker 2>is created when the federal government issues and iowe you

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<v Speaker 2>to the Federal Reserve. Metal Reserve then creates that money

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<v Speaker 2>out of thin air as an entry in an Oracle database.

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<v Speaker 2>That is basically the genesis of money. And then the

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<v Speaker 2>federal government writes checks, pays bills, pays contractors, does whatever

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<v Speaker 2>they do. They write checks, and then you deposit those

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<v Speaker 2>checks into a commercial bank, and the commercial bank creates

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<v Speaker 2>a database entry out of thin air in an Oracle

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<v Speaker 2>and Microsoft or Microsoft database back by the Oracle database

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<v Speaker 2>entries created by the Federal Reserve. This is the existing system.

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<v Speaker 2>So the existing system is digital. Ninety two percent of

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<v Speaker 2>our money is digital, and it's using these centralized databases.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I think people are not largely aware of that.

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<v Speaker 2>And certainly Oracle and Microsoft databases are highly programmable.

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<v Speaker 1>And of course a big part of the surveillance right

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<v Speaker 1>now in the current system is the on ramps and

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<v Speaker 1>the off ramps of what is happening there. Certainly we

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<v Speaker 1>take the money out, but even the know your Customer rules,

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<v Speaker 1>they've really ramped this up for the sites that are

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<v Speaker 1>And this is the real issue when I talk about,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the financial system, and you're talking about the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that we're looking at the end of the reserve,

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<v Speaker 1>the dollar reserve, the petro dollar is now totally dead

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<v Speaker 1>because Saudi Arabia was a lynchpin of that, and they're

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<v Speaker 1>now taking payments and other currencies and they're stashing up

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<v Speaker 1>on gold. Where does gold fit in on all of this?

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<v Speaker 1>When you focused on monaro and on Zeno and privacy

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<v Speaker 1>coins and things like that, what about gold? Are you

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<v Speaker 1>using gold and silver on a daily basis?

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<v Speaker 2>I use gold and silver on a daily basis, more gold,

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<v Speaker 2>I always, I always tip in gold backs. And I

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<v Speaker 2>live in New Hampshire, and so New Hampshire is one

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<v Speaker 2>of six states that goldback has actually actually has physical

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<v Speaker 2>physical locations where there are merchants actually actively accepting me.

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<v Speaker 2>So there are one hundred and fifty stores in New

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<v Speaker 2>Hampshire two thousand nationwide that already take this directly as currency,

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<v Speaker 2>and that initiative is expanding. And then I have an

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<v Speaker 2>online and transfer amongst gold, silver and gold backs, and

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<v Speaker 2>then I can even transfer gold and silver to a

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<v Speaker 2>Visa debit card, so I don't ever have to store

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<v Speaker 2>any value in fiat currency. Now there is some centralization

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<v Speaker 2>to that. So one of the things that I'm working on,

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<v Speaker 2>and this is what I think is kind of the

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<v Speaker 2>holy grail on this is imagine you take Xeno, you

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<v Speaker 2>take the privacy features of Manaro, which is essentially what

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<v Speaker 2>Xeno offers, and now you start tokenizing gold and silver.

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<v Speaker 2>So now people can have a currency that's backed by gold,

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<v Speaker 2>silver and gold backs, but that can be traded with

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<v Speaker 2>all of the convenience aspects of a private cryptocurrency. So

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<v Speaker 2>to me, where we're headed towards is a multi asset approach,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think that there's a way to combine privacy, tokenization,

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<v Speaker 2>and precious metals. And in fact, I'm talking to numerous people

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<v Speaker 2>as well, where you can really increase the velocity of

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<v Speaker 2>the spending of precious metals through tokenization, and then you know,

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<v Speaker 2>if people have to withdraw the physical metal, then there's

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<v Speaker 2>probably kyc AML at that point. But then there's an

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<v Speaker 2>ability to when you're not actually directly pulling out the

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<v Speaker 2>physical metals, to use these privacy tokens for day to

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<v Speaker 2>day transactions. So today for me, it's a balance of

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<v Speaker 2>privacy tokens and gold backs and gold and then I'm

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<v Speaker 2>really excited about creating user friendly tools wallets for the

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<v Speaker 2>consumer that have all of these assets, and a point

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<v Speaker 2>of sale system for merchants where the merchant can very

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<v Speaker 2>easily accept multiple forms of privacy crypto and gold and

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<v Speaker 2>silver and then can convert whatever they're accepting to the

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<v Speaker 2>reference currency of their choice. So it makes it easier

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<v Speaker 2>with store value.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's the direction this is all headed in.

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<v Speaker 1>That is so important what you're doing again. The website

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<v Speaker 1>is Daylightfreedom dot org and you can click on the

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<v Speaker 1>button there to find out how to empower yourself to

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<v Speaker 1>start getting out of this system. And that's you've done

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<v Speaker 1>a great deal of work on this as excellent research.

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<v Speaker 1>The agent. Let me ask you, what do you think

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<v Speaker 1>now there's something that's going on. I don't know all

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<v Speaker 1>the details about it. Montana is doing something I think

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<v Speaker 1>with a goalback digital currency or something. Is that correct

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<v Speaker 1>or am I wrong about that? And what do you

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<v Speaker 1>think about that if you know about it.

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't heard about that, But I haven't heard about

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<v Speaker 2>I'm involved with the Citizens for Sound Money. I know

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<v Speaker 2>there's a big effort to get states to make gold

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<v Speaker 2>and silver legal tender, and there are a number that

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<v Speaker 2>already have, including Utah, which was the first in twenty eleven,

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<v Speaker 2>and I know many other states are coming online. But

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<v Speaker 2>I have not heard about a Montana. I'll have to

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<v Speaker 2>look into that. Actually, yeah, yeah, there was Actually that

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<v Speaker 2>one's new. We just had New Jersey become the forty

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<v Speaker 2>fifth state to not have sales tax on gold and silver,

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<v Speaker 2>So even New Jersey surprised. Of course, it's the ones

424
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<v Speaker 2>that are still doing and are pretty much the usual

425
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<v Speaker 2>suspects that you would expect, like Hawaii and things like that.

426
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<v Speaker 2>But Kentucky was in the mix and that that really

427
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<v Speaker 2>kind of surprised me. But other than that, the other

428
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<v Speaker 2>four were pretty pretty much what you would think. But

429
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<v Speaker 2>it's starting to catch on. There's a lot of people

430
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<v Speaker 2>I know here in Tennessee who had centated nicely, is

431
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<v Speaker 2>very concerned about what was going to happen with a

432
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<v Speaker 2>financial collapse with mismanagement by the Federal Reserve, but also

433
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<v Speaker 2>focused on financial transactional privacy and that's the thing that

434
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<v Speaker 2>really and so he was trying to set up something

435
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<v Speaker 2>that would help local banks. You know, they have what

436
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<v Speaker 2>they called a state bank in North Dakota, I think

437
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<v Speaker 2>it is, and that has served them well through the

438
00:23:13.279 --> 00:23:16.440
<v Speaker 2>depression and other things like that. But the banking industry

439
00:23:16.480 --> 00:23:19.599
<v Speaker 2>really pushes back pretty hard if you start trying to

440
00:23:19.640 --> 00:23:21.960
<v Speaker 2>do that, and a lot of the banks, small and

441
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<v Speaker 2>medium sized banks don't really understand that they're on they're

442
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<v Speaker 2>about to be cut off, and so he was trying

443
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<v Speaker 2>to show them how this is going to help them,

444
00:23:33.079 --> 00:23:35.480
<v Speaker 2>but they came after him when he started doing that.

445
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<v Speaker 2>But he's still come through with a lot of solutions

446
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<v Speaker 2>and there's other states that are working on that as well.

447
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<v Speaker 2>And so I think it's very important for us to

448
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<v Speaker 2>understand that it's not just the instability of the Federal Reserve,

449
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<v Speaker 2>it's not just their bad policy that is going to

450
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<v Speaker 2>have economic consequences for so that we want to escape

451
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<v Speaker 2>by being in gold and silver. But it's also this

452
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<v Speaker 2>privacy aspect that you've really focused on, which is so important,

453
00:24:00.839 --> 00:24:03.599
<v Speaker 2>and how to actually get out of the system. You know,

454
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<v Speaker 2>right now a lot of people are just in the

455
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<v Speaker 2>in the mode as we are here, just trying to

456
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<v Speaker 2>collect things that are outside the system like gold and silver,

457
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<v Speaker 2>but not really sure how to use it on an

458
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<v Speaker 2>ongoing basis and how do we connect with other people

459
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<v Speaker 2>and make this practical.

460
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<v Speaker 1>That's what you're showing on your website. That's very important.

461
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, No, and it really does come down to easy

462
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<v Speaker 2>to use tools for consumers and merchants, and so there's

463
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<v Speaker 2>a path to doing this and so that there just

464
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<v Speaker 2>needs to be an emphasis and a focus on it.

465
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<v Speaker 2>And so I know it can happen because again I've

466
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<v Speaker 2>been living on these things for five years. But the

467
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<v Speaker 2>tools need to be made easier to use. But there

468
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<v Speaker 2>is certainly a huge demand. I mean, right now, the

469
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<v Speaker 2>focus isn't on mass adoption, it's actually getting those innovators.

470
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<v Speaker 2>All technology and ideas go through kind of an adoption curve.

471
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<v Speaker 2>You have the innovators, which are two and a half percent,

472
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<v Speaker 2>and then you have early adopters which are roughly thirteen percent,

473
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<v Speaker 2>and then you have early majority weight majority, and then laguards.

474
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<v Speaker 2>And so the point is to focus on the innovator

475
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<v Speaker 2>so that you know you're not at too many levels

476
00:25:03.039 --> 00:25:06.079
<v Speaker 2>removed from people's understanding of these systems. So the people

477
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<v Speaker 2>that are in the Second Amendment space, if gun store

478
00:25:09.519 --> 00:25:14.720
<v Speaker 2>owners are already intimately aware of problems with payment processing,

479
00:25:14.799 --> 00:25:17.400
<v Speaker 2>as are people in food freedom and health freedom and

480
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<v Speaker 2>these other sectors, and so the idea is to put

481
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<v Speaker 2>together tools to make it easy for these merchants, and

482
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<v Speaker 2>then to combine these merchants and make it easy for

483
00:25:24.240 --> 00:25:26.279
<v Speaker 2>people to realize, oh, hey, there are places I can

484
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<v Speaker 2>actually go to use these alternative currencies. And so as

485
00:25:28.880 --> 00:25:32.079
<v Speaker 2>we're re'refining the technology and building out the merchant network,

486
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<v Speaker 2>then we can go to the next layer, to the

487
00:25:34.319 --> 00:25:37.519
<v Speaker 2>early adopters and start expanding it out. So it really

488
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<v Speaker 2>requires just focus on making sure that we're not trying

489
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<v Speaker 2>to go mainstream too early, because you know, the technology

490
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<v Speaker 2>needs needs to evolve or usability and simplicity.

491
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<v Speaker 1>I guess my big concern when I look at crypto security,

492
00:25:52.680 --> 00:25:55.319
<v Speaker 1>because I've covered the stories, I forget it was a

493
00:25:55.480 --> 00:25:58.920
<v Speaker 1>guy who is a billionaire, and because as you pointed out,

494
00:25:58.960 --> 00:26:02.319
<v Speaker 1>the blockchain is somewhat public, he had some guy contact

495
00:26:02.400 --> 00:26:04.960
<v Speaker 1>him and say, I saw this large transaction and he

496
00:26:05.039 --> 00:26:06.920
<v Speaker 1>tracted me to find out that it was a wallet

497
00:26:06.960 --> 00:26:08.559
<v Speaker 1>that belonged to this guy. And he sends him a

498
00:26:08.559 --> 00:26:11.839
<v Speaker 1>message and says, I say that you just took out

499
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<v Speaker 1>nearly a million dollars. It's like nine hundred and some

500
00:26:14.000 --> 00:26:16.720
<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars. He said, no, I didn't do that. He

501
00:26:16.759 --> 00:26:18.839
<v Speaker 1>didn't realize that he just had about a million dollars

502
00:26:18.839 --> 00:26:21.039
<v Speaker 1>stolen from him. And so that that's the key. You know,

503
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<v Speaker 1>when we look at this, and I assume that you

504
00:26:22.920 --> 00:26:27.279
<v Speaker 1>address this in your empower stuff. The security issues of

505
00:26:27.359 --> 00:26:29.559
<v Speaker 1>having these wallets. That's one of the things that concerns

506
00:26:29.599 --> 00:26:32.759
<v Speaker 1>me about it. When you have when you go digital,

507
00:26:33.759 --> 00:26:37.559
<v Speaker 1>there is the capability of being exposed to every criminal

508
00:26:37.599 --> 00:26:39.920
<v Speaker 1>all over the earth. You know, if they know what

509
00:26:39.960 --> 00:26:41.640
<v Speaker 1>they're doing and you don't know what you're doing. Talk

510
00:26:41.680 --> 00:26:44.039
<v Speaker 1>a little bit about that. The security issues.

511
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that is absolutely critical. Well, so there are two components.

512
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<v Speaker 2>One to what you just said is this is why

513
00:26:49.920 --> 00:26:52.599
<v Speaker 2>he use privacy tokens, so that in privacy coins, so

514
00:26:52.680 --> 00:26:56.680
<v Speaker 2>that your identity and financial transactions can't be identified. Because

515
00:26:56.680 --> 00:26:59.880
<v Speaker 2>this has been a problem right people people can not

516
00:27:00.119 --> 00:27:03.799
<v Speaker 2>just the government, but bad actors can trace who's using bitcoin,

517
00:27:03.839 --> 00:27:05.839
<v Speaker 2>who's using ethereum, and then they can use that and

518
00:27:06.200 --> 00:27:09.920
<v Speaker 2>you know try to you know, rob you or kidnap

519
00:27:09.960 --> 00:27:12.799
<v Speaker 2>you and and literally physically steal your coins. That is

520
00:27:12.799 --> 00:27:14.880
<v Speaker 2>an actual issue. So the so the first thing to

521
00:27:14.920 --> 00:27:16.799
<v Speaker 2>do is to use privy coins. But then within that

522
00:27:17.359 --> 00:27:20.000
<v Speaker 2>there's the issue of how do you keep your privacy

523
00:27:20.039 --> 00:27:23.000
<v Speaker 2>coins safe? Because the issue with this is, I mean

524
00:27:23.559 --> 00:27:25.759
<v Speaker 2>there's a saying not your keys, not your coins. You know,

525
00:27:25.880 --> 00:27:29.400
<v Speaker 2>you have your private keys to your crypto, but there's

526
00:27:29.440 --> 00:27:32.039
<v Speaker 2>no customer service. If you lose these, if you're hacked

527
00:27:32.119 --> 00:27:35.720
<v Speaker 2>or you or you misplace your keys, then that money's gone.

528
00:27:35.799 --> 00:27:38.599
<v Speaker 2>There's no there's no one eight hundred number to call.

529
00:27:38.880 --> 00:27:41.680
<v Speaker 2>And so generally, so generally what you want to do

530
00:27:41.759 --> 00:27:45.079
<v Speaker 2>is you want to keep most of your crypto in

531
00:27:45.279 --> 00:27:49.880
<v Speaker 2>what's called cold storage, where it's not actually on a

532
00:27:49.920 --> 00:27:52.119
<v Speaker 2>device that's connected to the Internet in any way, shape

533
00:27:52.160 --> 00:27:54.519
<v Speaker 2>or form, or on a mobile device, so you can

534
00:27:54.640 --> 00:27:57.079
<v Speaker 2>use part there are things called hardware wallets that you

535
00:27:57.119 --> 00:28:00.400
<v Speaker 2>can buy that can accomplish this. You can also use

536
00:28:00.480 --> 00:28:03.000
<v Speaker 2>something called a paper wallet, which is a paper wallt

537
00:28:03.039 --> 00:28:04.920
<v Speaker 2>is where you basically have an address that has a

538
00:28:04.920 --> 00:28:08.279
<v Speaker 2>private key, but that wallet has never actually touched the internet.

539
00:28:08.359 --> 00:28:10.519
<v Speaker 2>So you move your coins to this and it's never

540
00:28:10.559 --> 00:28:12.559
<v Speaker 2>touched the internet before, and then when you need to

541
00:28:13.400 --> 00:28:17.279
<v Speaker 2>use the coins, you restore that wallet to a hot

542
00:28:17.279 --> 00:28:20.000
<v Speaker 2>wallet that's connected to the internet and then you spend it.

543
00:28:20.359 --> 00:28:23.119
<v Speaker 2>So that's another mechanism, And there's a whole wide range

544
00:28:23.160 --> 00:28:25.440
<v Speaker 2>of things including you know, you can take old cell

545
00:28:25.480 --> 00:28:28.400
<v Speaker 2>phones and completely wipe them and just put your crypto

546
00:28:28.440 --> 00:28:31.880
<v Speaker 2>wallet on that and then not have it touch the internet,

547
00:28:32.400 --> 00:28:35.119
<v Speaker 2>keep it off until such time as you need to

548
00:28:35.240 --> 00:28:37.119
<v Speaker 2>use it, and so there's a whole variety of different

549
00:28:37.799 --> 00:28:41.599
<v Speaker 2>mechanisms that you can use. And then on an ongoing basis.

550
00:28:41.599 --> 00:28:43.440
<v Speaker 2>I mean, right now, I'm using a wallet called cake

551
00:28:43.480 --> 00:28:46.960
<v Speaker 2>wallet because I've focused on privacy coins and there aren't

552
00:28:47.000 --> 00:28:51.400
<v Speaker 2>many wallets that have that focus. Cake wallet was specifically

553
00:28:51.400 --> 00:28:55.119
<v Speaker 2>built originally form and narrow. They've added other coins and

554
00:28:55.160 --> 00:28:59.279
<v Speaker 2>they are soon to add Zano as well. And what

555
00:28:59.359 --> 00:29:01.119
<v Speaker 2>I like about it is that it's an open source

556
00:29:01.200 --> 00:29:04.759
<v Speaker 2>wallet that has had an emphasis on privacy, but it's

557
00:29:04.759 --> 00:29:07.079
<v Speaker 2>also user friendly, there are features in there.

558
00:29:07.519 --> 00:29:10.160
<v Speaker 3>So when I live on crypto now, fortunately I.

559
00:29:10.079 --> 00:29:11.799
<v Speaker 2>Live in New Hampshire and there are a lot of

560
00:29:12.359 --> 00:29:14.200
<v Speaker 2>merchants that I can go to as part of the

561
00:29:14.200 --> 00:29:16.720
<v Speaker 2>Free State Project, can actually buy things directly with Crypto.

562
00:29:16.839 --> 00:29:20.759
<v Speaker 2>This isn't the case in most of the country, but

563
00:29:20.960 --> 00:29:22.720
<v Speaker 2>so often what you end up having to do is

564
00:29:22.720 --> 00:29:25.519
<v Speaker 2>to buy debit cards or gift cards. So you know,

565
00:29:25.559 --> 00:29:27.359
<v Speaker 2>I bought my kids back to school clothes, or I

566
00:29:27.359 --> 00:29:30.160
<v Speaker 2>took my kids to see a movie. I bought a

567
00:29:30.160 --> 00:29:33.240
<v Speaker 2>AMC gift card using Monaro and then went over to

568
00:29:33.240 --> 00:29:35.680
<v Speaker 2>the movie theater, So that's often. You know, there's kind

569
00:29:35.680 --> 00:29:37.839
<v Speaker 2>of a continue Just as there's a continuum on the

570
00:29:37.880 --> 00:29:41.000
<v Speaker 2>Tyranny Index, there's a continuum on the Freedom index as well.

571
00:29:41.400 --> 00:29:44.880
<v Speaker 2>The ultimate scenario is one where we're all using privacy

572
00:29:45.079 --> 00:29:47.759
<v Speaker 2>coins peer to peer with no intermediaries, and that's where

573
00:29:47.759 --> 00:29:49.519
<v Speaker 2>you want to ultimately get but we're not going to

574
00:29:49.559 --> 00:29:51.720
<v Speaker 2>get there today, so for right now, you might have

575
00:29:51.799 --> 00:29:55.079
<v Speaker 2>to actually buy gift cards, buy debit cards. But I

576
00:29:55.160 --> 00:29:58.440
<v Speaker 2>like cake wallet because it's the easiest that has a

577
00:29:58.440 --> 00:30:00.920
<v Speaker 2>bunch of built in functionality, open source, and has a

578
00:30:00.920 --> 00:30:04.759
<v Speaker 2>focus on privacy coins. But I still only leave in

579
00:30:04.960 --> 00:30:09.720
<v Speaker 2>a live wallet a month's worth of kind of operating

580
00:30:10.640 --> 00:30:13.000
<v Speaker 2>fund funds because you just assume that something could still

581
00:30:13.039 --> 00:30:17.319
<v Speaker 2>go wrong for whatever reason, because certainly there are hacks

582
00:30:18.200 --> 00:30:20.599
<v Speaker 2>going on every day. But once you really look at

583
00:30:20.720 --> 00:30:24.799
<v Speaker 2>and understand and consider that the filter reserve runs on

584
00:30:24.839 --> 00:30:26.839
<v Speaker 2>an Oracle database, and your local bank runs on a

585
00:30:26.920 --> 00:30:29.599
<v Speaker 2>Microsoft database. And I think it was in twenty seventeen

586
00:30:30.359 --> 00:30:32.880
<v Speaker 2>there was something like one point five trillion dollars of

587
00:30:32.920 --> 00:30:37.079
<v Speaker 2>economic losses due to database integrity issues and hacks and

588
00:30:37.119 --> 00:30:40.000
<v Speaker 2>everything else, and that number is on the way, on the.

589
00:30:40.000 --> 00:30:40.799
<v Speaker 3>Way to ten trillion.

590
00:30:40.920 --> 00:30:45.000
<v Speaker 2>We just had the Social Security database breach or whatever

591
00:30:45.000 --> 00:30:46.519
<v Speaker 2>a couple of weeks ago, and I think most of

592
00:30:46.559 --> 00:30:49.400
<v Speaker 2>this year, most of the major services, including Microsoft and others,

593
00:30:49.440 --> 00:30:53.240
<v Speaker 2>have had data breaches, and so the existing system is unsafe.

594
00:30:54.000 --> 00:30:59.480
<v Speaker 2>These cryptos at least offer an increase in a security

595
00:30:59.480 --> 00:31:03.279
<v Speaker 2>model to what the what global commerce runs on, Which

596
00:31:03.279 --> 00:31:05.480
<v Speaker 2>are these centralized databases that can.

597
00:31:05.359 --> 00:31:07.880
<v Speaker 3>Be packed and manipulated and changed.

598
00:31:08.079 --> 00:31:12.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, trillions dollars of leakage coming out of these things. Again,

599
00:31:12.920 --> 00:31:17.480
<v Speaker 1>Oracle and Microsoft that where they've got their databases. Now,

600
00:31:17.640 --> 00:31:19.279
<v Speaker 1>let's talk a little bit more about what you kind

601
00:31:19.279 --> 00:31:22.559
<v Speaker 1>of touched on there in terms of the details of

602
00:31:22.640 --> 00:31:25.640
<v Speaker 1>at work. You talked about how you transfer some of

603
00:31:25.640 --> 00:31:29.240
<v Speaker 1>the stuff into a into a debit card that you

604
00:31:29.240 --> 00:31:31.759
<v Speaker 1>can use, you know, to go buy stuff at retail

605
00:31:31.799 --> 00:31:34.640
<v Speaker 1>people who are not participating in that. So tell us

606
00:31:34.640 --> 00:31:36.880
<v Speaker 1>a little bit about how that works. I mean, is

607
00:31:36.880 --> 00:31:40.119
<v Speaker 1>that something that is available people outside of New Hampshire.

608
00:31:40.160 --> 00:31:42.799
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, how do you convert that monaro

609
00:31:43.039 --> 00:31:45.559
<v Speaker 1>to a debit card that you can take to the

610
00:31:45.559 --> 00:31:46.039
<v Speaker 1>movie theater.

611
00:31:47.279 --> 00:31:50.039
<v Speaker 2>That's a little bit of everyone. So it's actually built

612
00:31:50.119 --> 00:31:53.480
<v Speaker 2>into the Cake wallet. It's something called cake Pay. And

613
00:31:53.599 --> 00:31:56.319
<v Speaker 2>so right from within the wallet you will see there

614
00:31:56.319 --> 00:32:01.240
<v Speaker 2>are hundreds and hundreds of participating merchants. I mean anywhere

615
00:32:01.240 --> 00:32:04.799
<v Speaker 2>from Delta Airlines to AMC and so this isn't anything

616
00:32:04.880 --> 00:32:09.279
<v Speaker 2>exclusive to New Hampshire. I basically most companies have their

617
00:32:09.279 --> 00:32:12.160
<v Speaker 2>own gift card program. So I mean I use this too.

618
00:32:12.480 --> 00:32:15.759
<v Speaker 2>I got my kids some clothes at Old Navy.

619
00:32:15.799 --> 00:32:18.160
<v Speaker 3>The list of merchants is quite impressive.

620
00:32:18.160 --> 00:32:19.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean I think I even saw I don't know

621
00:32:19.480 --> 00:32:21.319
<v Speaker 2>if it was on there, but somewhere, you know, you

622
00:32:21.319 --> 00:32:23.640
<v Speaker 2>could get a you could buy a vacation to Sandals

623
00:32:23.799 --> 00:32:27.480
<v Speaker 2>using gift cards, so I believe you could use me

624
00:32:27.559 --> 00:32:29.880
<v Speaker 2>narrow to buy a Sandals gift card.

625
00:32:30.279 --> 00:32:31.240
<v Speaker 3>I mean, this is what I'm gonna do.

626
00:32:31.440 --> 00:32:35.279
<v Speaker 2>I'm about to go to Argentina to a crypto conference

627
00:32:35.680 --> 00:32:38.640
<v Speaker 2>next month, a bitcoin cash conference, and I mean, this

628
00:32:38.680 --> 00:32:39.839
<v Speaker 2>is all going to be don I'm going to buy

629
00:32:39.880 --> 00:32:44.640
<v Speaker 2>my plane tickets to Argentina using gift cards. So anybody

630
00:32:44.640 --> 00:32:46.000
<v Speaker 2>can do this. You don't have to be a New

631
00:32:46.039 --> 00:32:49.000
<v Speaker 2>Hampshire and it's not even limited to the United States either,

632
00:32:49.559 --> 00:32:52.839
<v Speaker 2>So it's it's a pretty convenient solution. And again this

633
00:32:52.920 --> 00:32:55.720
<v Speaker 2>isn't this isn't the peer to peer direct experience that

634
00:32:55.720 --> 00:32:58.759
<v Speaker 2>we want, but it is still it's a workaround and

635
00:32:58.839 --> 00:33:00.960
<v Speaker 2>something that.

636
00:33:00.200 --> 00:33:01.200
<v Speaker 3>Works pretty successful.

637
00:33:01.240 --> 00:33:02.640
<v Speaker 2>And in fact, you don't have to buy you know,

638
00:33:02.680 --> 00:33:04.880
<v Speaker 2>when you go to like if you go to Walmart

639
00:33:04.960 --> 00:33:07.759
<v Speaker 2>or Target, you'll see they have the gift card aisle, right,

640
00:33:08.240 --> 00:33:10.279
<v Speaker 2>and you can buy gift cards with cash, but they're

641
00:33:10.319 --> 00:33:14.759
<v Speaker 2>in denominations by ten, twenty, five, fifty. But typically with

642
00:33:14.839 --> 00:33:18.160
<v Speaker 2>these gift cards through cake pay, you can actually specify

643
00:33:18.240 --> 00:33:20.759
<v Speaker 2>the exact dollar amount. So I think I got a

644
00:33:20.799 --> 00:33:23.839
<v Speaker 2>two hundred and thirty eight dollars, you know, old baby

645
00:33:23.880 --> 00:33:25.799
<v Speaker 2>gift gift certificate or something, so.

646
00:33:25.839 --> 00:33:27.039
<v Speaker 3>That a gift.

647
00:33:27.279 --> 00:33:29.160
<v Speaker 1>Is it a gift certificate that you have a digital

648
00:33:29.519 --> 00:33:31.599
<v Speaker 1>format on your phone that they can scan or something,

649
00:33:31.680 --> 00:33:32.599
<v Speaker 1>or is it a physical card?

650
00:33:32.640 --> 00:33:36.720
<v Speaker 2>Yes, okay, it's a it's a digital gift certificate. There

651
00:33:36.799 --> 00:33:39.079
<v Speaker 2>is an ability to So there are layers of this

652
00:33:39.200 --> 00:33:42.119
<v Speaker 2>and I go through this in my workshops as well.

653
00:33:42.160 --> 00:33:44.920
<v Speaker 2>So Cake so the kind of the Cake Walt and

654
00:33:44.960 --> 00:33:49.799
<v Speaker 2>Cake pay is the front line of doing retail transactions.

655
00:33:49.880 --> 00:33:52.720
<v Speaker 2>Then I use other services for different.

656
00:33:53.880 --> 00:33:54.400
<v Speaker 3>Debit cards.

657
00:33:54.400 --> 00:33:56.759
<v Speaker 2>So there's a debit card that you can buy just

658
00:33:56.839 --> 00:33:59.720
<v Speaker 2>a flat you can buy a Visa debit card or

659
00:33:59.759 --> 00:34:03.119
<v Speaker 2>a MasterCard debit card right from within this Cake wallet.

660
00:34:03.200 --> 00:34:06.880
<v Speaker 2>But those cards are digital only, and they're usually only

661
00:34:06.960 --> 00:34:10.320
<v Speaker 2>accepted at merchants that are digital only. So I have

662
00:34:10.599 --> 00:34:13.719
<v Speaker 2>separate debit cards that are actual physical I have a

663
00:34:13.760 --> 00:34:17.000
<v Speaker 2>Crypto dot Com debit card that's a physical debit card.

664
00:34:17.480 --> 00:34:20.320
<v Speaker 2>That's the same thing I still, you know, I transfer

665
00:34:20.360 --> 00:34:23.360
<v Speaker 2>Crypto through the card and it's a physical card. And

666
00:34:23.400 --> 00:34:26.440
<v Speaker 2>now that can be used anywhere visas accepted. So I

667
00:34:26.480 --> 00:34:28.599
<v Speaker 2>have a so there's a long rate.

668
00:34:29.079 --> 00:34:33.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So can that physical card then be re upped digitally?

669
00:34:34.079 --> 00:34:36.840
<v Speaker 1>Is that the way that works, the do.

670
00:34:36.800 --> 00:34:39.920
<v Speaker 2>That or yeah, and it usually only takes it usually

671
00:34:39.960 --> 00:34:43.119
<v Speaker 2>only takes you know, maybe thirty minutes or so for

672
00:34:43.159 --> 00:34:46.400
<v Speaker 2>the process of uploading it and having all be verified.

673
00:34:46.400 --> 00:34:49.679
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, it's so, and I've had other cards now

674
00:34:49.960 --> 00:34:52.039
<v Speaker 2>just as part of the I mean, I want to

675
00:34:52.039 --> 00:34:55.840
<v Speaker 2>call it gamification of my life living on crypto, because

676
00:34:56.199 --> 00:34:58.280
<v Speaker 2>as things have changed, I used to use something called

677
00:34:58.280 --> 00:35:01.360
<v Speaker 2>a vippay card years for three or four years, I

678
00:35:01.480 --> 00:35:03.760
<v Speaker 2>use BitPay, and then all of a sudden they severed

679
00:35:03.800 --> 00:35:06.800
<v Speaker 2>their relationship with their financial partner on that and so

680
00:35:07.199 --> 00:35:10.079
<v Speaker 2>I received seven days notice that you know, in seven days,

681
00:35:10.079 --> 00:35:12.000
<v Speaker 2>I can no longer use that card. So now I

682
00:35:12.039 --> 00:35:15.119
<v Speaker 2>actually have a number of debit cards, most of which

683
00:35:15.119 --> 00:35:17.840
<v Speaker 2>I don't use, but I keep in reserve in case

684
00:35:17.960 --> 00:35:21.360
<v Speaker 2>something happens to crypto dot com or something happens over here.

685
00:35:21.400 --> 00:35:23.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm not in a situation where I don't have any

686
00:35:23.519 --> 00:35:24.039
<v Speaker 2>ability to.

687
00:35:25.559 --> 00:35:26.119
<v Speaker 3>Pay bills.

688
00:35:26.119 --> 00:35:29.360
<v Speaker 2>And then behind the scenes, and obviously I'm focused on

689
00:35:29.440 --> 00:35:32.639
<v Speaker 2>trying to work with merchants that take Crypto directly, so

690
00:35:32.679 --> 00:35:35.320
<v Speaker 2>that would be my preferred model, and all of the

691
00:35:35.320 --> 00:35:38.559
<v Speaker 2>rest of this is just you know, kind of kind

692
00:35:38.559 --> 00:35:43.320
<v Speaker 2>of an interim solution in ways of working around the

693
00:35:44.079 --> 00:35:46.280
<v Speaker 2>system as it is, but it's not that hard.

694
00:35:46.320 --> 00:35:46.559
<v Speaker 3>Again.

695
00:35:46.599 --> 00:35:49.199
<v Speaker 2>The kickwallet solution, and this is something I've actually just

696
00:35:49.239 --> 00:35:52.760
<v Speaker 2>started using in the last couple of months, is the easiest.

697
00:35:53.079 --> 00:35:56.559
<v Speaker 2>It's the easiest to onboard someone because within one wallet

698
00:35:56.800 --> 00:35:59.719
<v Speaker 2>you can have multiple coins, including privsy coins. You can

699
00:35:59.760 --> 00:36:03.320
<v Speaker 2>buy crypto within the wallet, you can buy gift cards

700
00:36:03.320 --> 00:36:05.960
<v Speaker 2>and debit cards within the wallet, And so that's the

701
00:36:06.000 --> 00:36:08.880
<v Speaker 2>most attractive thing because when I'm doing these workshops and

702
00:36:08.880 --> 00:36:11.320
<v Speaker 2>a lot of times I'm onboarding people that have had

703
00:36:11.360 --> 00:36:13.960
<v Speaker 2>no experience with crypto at all. So if I'm giving

704
00:36:14.000 --> 00:36:17.679
<v Speaker 2>them twenty different tools, it's going to get a bit

705
00:36:17.880 --> 00:36:19.199
<v Speaker 2>lost on them.

706
00:36:19.079 --> 00:36:21.800
<v Speaker 1>Right, Right, So it's the cake quallet is a piece

707
00:36:21.800 --> 00:36:22.599
<v Speaker 1>of cake to use.

708
00:36:22.519 --> 00:36:25.119
<v Speaker 3>Right, It is a piece of cake to use.

709
00:36:26.280 --> 00:36:31.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and Daylight Freedom dot Org there's an informed tab

710
00:36:31.239 --> 00:36:34.519
<v Speaker 2>and under that there's alternative assets and this lists all

711
00:36:34.559 --> 00:36:38.199
<v Speaker 2>of the things that I'm currently using today, including goldbacks

712
00:36:38.360 --> 00:36:41.719
<v Speaker 2>and my UPMA account, which is the account that I

713
00:36:41.760 --> 00:36:44.519
<v Speaker 2>have where I can fund and buy gold and silver

714
00:36:44.599 --> 00:36:47.559
<v Speaker 2>and transfer gold and silver. Also to a Visa debit card,

715
00:36:47.559 --> 00:36:52.320
<v Speaker 2>which is a physical debit card that works wherever. Visa

716
00:36:52.519 --> 00:36:55.559
<v Speaker 2>is accepted. And I also have something on there called

717
00:36:55.599 --> 00:36:58.280
<v Speaker 2>Sprits Finance, which I want to talk about as well,

718
00:36:58.280 --> 00:37:00.559
<v Speaker 2>because one of the big pushback when I say I

719
00:37:00.559 --> 00:37:02.559
<v Speaker 2>live on crypto, people like, oh, yeah, right, how do

720
00:37:02.599 --> 00:37:05.840
<v Speaker 2>you pay your electric bill? How do you pay your mortgage?

721
00:37:05.960 --> 00:37:07.840
<v Speaker 2>How do you do some of these basic things? And

722
00:37:08.519 --> 00:37:11.360
<v Speaker 2>it turns out Sprits Finance is a solution for that.

723
00:37:11.480 --> 00:37:14.880
<v Speaker 2>You connect to Sprits Finance, and so I put in

724
00:37:14.920 --> 00:37:18.079
<v Speaker 2>my Verizon account and my Varietony account number, and then

725
00:37:18.119 --> 00:37:19.840
<v Speaker 2>literally I pay directly.

726
00:37:19.519 --> 00:37:22.199
<v Speaker 3>Through Sprits using crypto. And you can do this.

727
00:37:22.320 --> 00:37:27.159
<v Speaker 2>With auto loans, student loans, mortgages, electric bill, all of it.

728
00:37:27.199 --> 00:37:31.039
<v Speaker 2>And it has almost it has most of those types

729
00:37:31.079 --> 00:37:34.400
<v Speaker 2>of most of the large vendors that you would think

730
00:37:34.400 --> 00:37:37.119
<v Speaker 2>to pay. So so on this page and in the workshop,

731
00:37:37.159 --> 00:37:39.960
<v Speaker 2>I teach people the whole range of how you can.

732
00:37:40.159 --> 00:37:42.400
<v Speaker 3>Begin the first step of not using a.

733
00:37:42.320 --> 00:37:44.880
<v Speaker 2>Personal bank account, and then hopefully we can all start

734
00:37:44.920 --> 00:37:47.960
<v Speaker 2>working together to get more adoption so that so that

735
00:37:48.000 --> 00:37:51.000
<v Speaker 2>we're dealing with crypto on a peer to peer basis,

736
00:37:51.039 --> 00:37:55.480
<v Speaker 2>even without these intermediate services or gift cards or debit cards.

737
00:37:55.559 --> 00:37:57.679
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, and take it back to those original intentions.

738
00:37:58.199 --> 00:38:01.400
<v Speaker 1>How are the fees Are they comparable to the types

739
00:38:01.440 --> 00:38:04.119
<v Speaker 1>of things that you would typically see these these intermediarias.

740
00:38:05.800 --> 00:38:09.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the fees are actually the fees are actually minimal.

741
00:38:10.079 --> 00:38:13.079
<v Speaker 2>The fees are actually in fact, I don't even know

742
00:38:13.119 --> 00:38:16.000
<v Speaker 2>that there are any fees with the gift cards, come

743
00:38:16.039 --> 00:38:18.280
<v Speaker 2>to think of it, because I mean, when you buy

744
00:38:18.280 --> 00:38:20.960
<v Speaker 2>a gift card. Usually the business model for gift cards

745
00:38:21.000 --> 00:38:23.119
<v Speaker 2>is people usually buy gift cards and there's a certain

746
00:38:23.119 --> 00:38:26.519
<v Speaker 2>amount that never go redeemed, so you don't usually pay

747
00:38:27.119 --> 00:38:30.480
<v Speaker 2>an additional fee for that because they have worked into

748
00:38:30.519 --> 00:38:33.639
<v Speaker 2>the business model the fact that people won't actually redeem

749
00:38:33.880 --> 00:38:37.119
<v Speaker 2>a large amount of the value. So so that hasn't

750
00:38:37.199 --> 00:38:39.960
<v Speaker 2>been much of an issue. And there's there are no

751
00:38:40.079 --> 00:38:43.480
<v Speaker 2>fees with the bill pay service, for instance, there's no

752
00:38:44.119 --> 00:38:47.079
<v Speaker 2>I'm not paying extra to use my crypto to pay

753
00:38:47.079 --> 00:38:50.840
<v Speaker 2>my Verizon bill where you get fees. And the challenge

754
00:38:50.880 --> 00:38:54.199
<v Speaker 2>still remains with all of this is in acquiring crypto

755
00:38:54.320 --> 00:38:59.239
<v Speaker 2>in the first place. And with these privacy coins there's

756
00:38:59.280 --> 00:39:01.400
<v Speaker 2>only one exchange crack and that I think you can

757
00:39:01.440 --> 00:39:05.519
<v Speaker 2>even buy minero, and most of the crypto exchanges are

758
00:39:05.559 --> 00:39:08.719
<v Speaker 2>going to be moving away from privacy coins, so you

759
00:39:08.800 --> 00:39:11.239
<v Speaker 2>ultimately have to buy some other coin and then you

760
00:39:11.320 --> 00:39:15.320
<v Speaker 2>have to use a service to convert your transparent coin

761
00:39:15.400 --> 00:39:18.119
<v Speaker 2>to a privacy coin, which I also outline, And so

762
00:39:18.199 --> 00:39:21.239
<v Speaker 2>there is somewhat of a transaction fee involved with that

763
00:39:21.440 --> 00:39:26.159
<v Speaker 2>upfront to get involved with these assets in the first place.

764
00:39:26.239 --> 00:39:28.559
<v Speaker 2>And so that's probably the area where you have the biggest,

765
00:39:28.760 --> 00:39:30.079
<v Speaker 2>biggest fee generation.

766
00:39:30.360 --> 00:39:31.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and so you've got to make a couple of hops,

767
00:39:32.000 --> 00:39:33.480
<v Speaker 1>and you've got to have a fee at each of

768
00:39:33.519 --> 00:39:36.840
<v Speaker 1>those hops. There you talk about there's really only one

769
00:39:37.079 --> 00:39:40.800
<v Speaker 1>exchange that's working with Manaro and Xeno and these other

770
00:39:41.039 --> 00:39:45.079
<v Speaker 1>privacy coins, And I guess that's the other part of it.

771
00:39:45.159 --> 00:39:48.119
<v Speaker 1>It's really you know, the vulnerability is the on ramp

772
00:39:48.159 --> 00:39:51.679
<v Speaker 1>and the exit ramp there. You know, at that point,

773
00:39:51.880 --> 00:39:55.000
<v Speaker 1>what do we you know, what is the when we

774
00:39:55.039 --> 00:39:57.360
<v Speaker 1>look at what they're likely to do. I would think

775
00:39:57.400 --> 00:40:00.480
<v Speaker 1>that they're going to start attacking these sites like cracking

776
00:40:00.519 --> 00:40:02.920
<v Speaker 1>and so forth. Are they located outside the United States?

777
00:40:02.920 --> 00:40:05.280
<v Speaker 1>How vulnerable are they to pressure and attacks from the

778
00:40:05.320 --> 00:40:05.960
<v Speaker 1>United States?

779
00:40:07.960 --> 00:40:09.840
<v Speaker 2>So I think there are four major exchanges in the US.

780
00:40:09.840 --> 00:40:12.599
<v Speaker 2>They're all being sued by the SEC. Most have already

781
00:40:13.039 --> 00:40:15.760
<v Speaker 2>gotten rid of privacy coins. I think crack and I'll

782
00:40:15.840 --> 00:40:19.480
<v Speaker 2>ultimately probably stop offering them there as well, So I

783
00:40:19.519 --> 00:40:21.960
<v Speaker 2>think that we can count on that happening. And by

784
00:40:22.000 --> 00:40:24.760
<v Speaker 2>the way, that's a bipartisan affair. I think there are

785
00:40:24.800 --> 00:40:27.519
<v Speaker 2>a lot of people that get worked up over Trump

786
00:40:27.599 --> 00:40:29.679
<v Speaker 2>is going to be the savior on crypto. And I've

787
00:40:29.719 --> 00:40:32.679
<v Speaker 2>actually read the legislation that the Republicans in the House

788
00:40:32.719 --> 00:40:34.800
<v Speaker 2>have drafted, and none of it is pro freedom, none

789
00:40:34.840 --> 00:40:37.679
<v Speaker 2>of it is pro privacy. It all gives more control

790
00:40:37.760 --> 00:40:40.559
<v Speaker 2>to the banks, and it all adds more reporting. So

791
00:40:40.599 --> 00:40:46.760
<v Speaker 2>there's no Republican win from the standpoint of privacy or

792
00:40:47.199 --> 00:40:50.639
<v Speaker 2>even really self custody. Either way, we're going to get

793
00:40:50.679 --> 00:40:57.000
<v Speaker 2>more regulation, more reporting. And this is Cynthia Loomis, Senator

794
00:40:57.000 --> 00:41:01.519
<v Speaker 2>from Wyoming, who puts the bitcoin eyes and her profile

795
00:41:01.559 --> 00:41:05.960
<v Speaker 2>picture and who everybody thinks is this pro crypto person.

796
00:41:06.039 --> 00:41:10.039
<v Speaker 2>She is explicitly against privacy and explicitly against everything that's

797
00:41:10.079 --> 00:41:14.639
<v Speaker 2>not a transparent blockchain. So this is I have no

798
00:41:14.880 --> 00:41:17.840
<v Speaker 2>this isn't going to get easier. It's only going to

799
00:41:17.880 --> 00:41:20.280
<v Speaker 2>get worse, which is why I think people getting into

800
00:41:20.280 --> 00:41:23.039
<v Speaker 2>these privacy coins and starting to use them in a

801
00:41:23.079 --> 00:41:26.159
<v Speaker 2>parallel economy as quickly as possible. Is the is the

802
00:41:26.199 --> 00:41:29.599
<v Speaker 2>right way because again they want to ratchet up to tyranny,

803
00:41:29.639 --> 00:41:31.679
<v Speaker 2>So they want to take the existing digital system and

804
00:41:31.719 --> 00:41:34.280
<v Speaker 2>they're going to move to ban cash, They're going to

805
00:41:34.320 --> 00:41:37.559
<v Speaker 2>move to add more programmability. This is just kind of

806
00:41:37.639 --> 00:41:41.800
<v Speaker 2>baked into to what's going to happen, and so privacy

807
00:41:41.840 --> 00:41:45.320
<v Speaker 2>coins are really our only way out, and certainly gold

808
00:41:45.320 --> 00:41:47.320
<v Speaker 2>and silver as well, but unless gold and silver can

809
00:41:47.360 --> 00:41:49.199
<v Speaker 2>be spendable and actually used.

810
00:41:49.480 --> 00:41:51.599
<v Speaker 3>I mean, there's gold and silver sure as a hedge.

811
00:41:51.320 --> 00:41:52.880
<v Speaker 2>For the collapse of the dollar, but at the end

812
00:41:52.920 --> 00:41:55.039
<v Speaker 2>of the day, if you have to buy a little

813
00:41:55.039 --> 00:41:57.400
<v Speaker 2>for better, you have to engage in commerce. You know,

814
00:41:57.480 --> 00:42:00.400
<v Speaker 2>there needs to be a spendable version of these things.

815
00:42:00.400 --> 00:42:02.599
<v Speaker 2>And so this is why I think the merger of

816
00:42:03.599 --> 00:42:07.960
<v Speaker 2>privacy coins or privacy tokens and precious metals is probably

817
00:42:07.960 --> 00:42:10.679
<v Speaker 2>going to be a huge a huge win for all

818
00:42:10.719 --> 00:42:10.920
<v Speaker 2>of this.

819
00:42:11.079 --> 00:42:13.760
<v Speaker 3>But now time is not on our side.

820
00:42:13.920 --> 00:42:15.360
<v Speaker 2>I mean, and there are other things that people can

821
00:42:15.400 --> 00:42:17.800
<v Speaker 2>do with you know, GPNs and other things I'm not

822
00:42:17.840 --> 00:42:20.079
<v Speaker 2>necessarily going to talk about here, but you can go

823
00:42:20.119 --> 00:42:23.960
<v Speaker 2>about acquiring these things not within the United States, but

824
00:42:24.599 --> 00:42:29.400
<v Speaker 2>the US is really not competitive already with exchanges, and

825
00:42:30.400 --> 00:42:32.920
<v Speaker 2>this even varies. The state of New York is horrendous.

826
00:42:32.960 --> 00:42:35.159
<v Speaker 2>You have to have a bit license. It's almost impossible

827
00:42:35.159 --> 00:42:38.519
<v Speaker 2>to buy crypto in New York. We've really shot ourselves

828
00:42:38.559 --> 00:42:40.360
<v Speaker 2>in the foot on this. And of course I think

829
00:42:40.400 --> 00:42:45.400
<v Speaker 2>cz who is the CEO of Binance, is still in prison.

830
00:42:45.400 --> 00:42:47.159
<v Speaker 2>I think he gets out of prison in a few days.

831
00:42:47.480 --> 00:42:52.400
<v Speaker 2>He is serving a four month prison term. So the

832
00:42:52.519 --> 00:42:58.079
<v Speaker 2>US has been horrible on this front. Now, ultimately, you know, people,

833
00:42:59.000 --> 00:43:00.320
<v Speaker 2>you want to get to the point where people are

834
00:43:00.360 --> 00:43:03.960
<v Speaker 2>actually earning money in crypto, right, this is the way

835
00:43:03.960 --> 00:43:06.519
<v Speaker 2>to go moving forward when people are actually using this

836
00:43:06.719 --> 00:43:09.760
<v Speaker 2>not just to buy and sell things, but people are

837
00:43:09.760 --> 00:43:12.559
<v Speaker 2>actually earning money in crypto. And I know people that

838
00:43:12.599 --> 00:43:16.280
<v Speaker 2>have been doing that for a while as well. A

839
00:43:16.320 --> 00:43:18.440
<v Speaker 2>friend of mine here in New Hampshire, Free State's been

840
00:43:18.480 --> 00:43:20.880
<v Speaker 2>living on crypto since twenty fifteen and he actually gets

841
00:43:20.880 --> 00:43:23.599
<v Speaker 2>paid in crypto. He only works on projects where he

842
00:43:23.639 --> 00:43:27.719
<v Speaker 2>gets paid in crypto. So there's a Again, it's a process,

843
00:43:27.760 --> 00:43:29.800
<v Speaker 2>it's a continuum of how we get to where we

844
00:43:29.880 --> 00:43:32.920
<v Speaker 2>need to be, which is people using peer to peer

845
00:43:32.960 --> 00:43:35.559
<v Speaker 2>cash and earning in peer to peer cash.

846
00:43:35.719 --> 00:43:37.840
<v Speaker 1>Well, that's why it's so important what you're doing because

847
00:43:38.199 --> 00:43:41.679
<v Speaker 1>when we look at it, if people if people don't

848
00:43:41.719 --> 00:43:43.880
<v Speaker 1>own guns and they've never been around guns, it's very

849
00:43:43.920 --> 00:43:45.880
<v Speaker 1>easy for people to tell them, all, we don't want

850
00:43:45.880 --> 00:43:48.480
<v Speaker 1>to have anybody having guns, right, And the same thing

851
00:43:48.639 --> 00:43:51.079
<v Speaker 1>is true in terms of driving cars. You we look

852
00:43:51.119 --> 00:43:54.159
<v Speaker 1>at what is happening. The younger generation is not driving

853
00:43:54.199 --> 00:43:56.320
<v Speaker 1>cars that much is going to be very they're doing

854
00:43:56.400 --> 00:44:00.159
<v Speaker 1>that on purpose or making it difficult for them so

855
00:44:00.280 --> 00:44:02.039
<v Speaker 1>that if they don't have cars, they're not going to

856
00:44:02.039 --> 00:44:03.599
<v Speaker 1>really see the need of it. That's why it's very

857
00:44:03.599 --> 00:44:07.199
<v Speaker 1>important for you to get people to start to see

858
00:44:07.199 --> 00:44:09.920
<v Speaker 1>how to safely use this stuff and start to adopt

859
00:44:09.960 --> 00:44:13.559
<v Speaker 1>it so that it's not something that they know about,

860
00:44:13.920 --> 00:44:16.280
<v Speaker 1>something that they value. And if you start to get

861
00:44:16.280 --> 00:44:18.800
<v Speaker 1>a big community of people who know how to use

862
00:44:18.840 --> 00:44:22.960
<v Speaker 1>it and value it, then at that point they will

863
00:44:23.159 --> 00:44:25.400
<v Speaker 1>start to push back and defend it. Right now, what

864
00:44:25.440 --> 00:44:28.519
<v Speaker 1>you see happening with these politicians. Politicians are out there

865
00:44:28.559 --> 00:44:32.119
<v Speaker 1>trolling for voters and they're trolling for donors. And you know,

866
00:44:32.119 --> 00:44:35.920
<v Speaker 1>Trump just got seven a half million dollars from Crypto

867
00:44:36.360 --> 00:44:39.960
<v Speaker 1>Political Action Committee, and yet he goes on and he

868
00:44:40.000 --> 00:44:41.880
<v Speaker 1>talks about it. He doesn't know anything at all about it,

869
00:44:41.920 --> 00:44:43.960
<v Speaker 1>and he doesn't care anything at all about it. And

870
00:44:44.000 --> 00:44:46.000
<v Speaker 1>that's true, as you point out to Ted Cruise, any

871
00:44:46.039 --> 00:44:49.119
<v Speaker 1>of these people, they jump onto it because it's a

872
00:44:49.119 --> 00:44:52.360
<v Speaker 1>political position. But at the same time, especially coming from

873
00:44:52.360 --> 00:44:54.400
<v Speaker 1>the Conservatives, they're going to say, well, we've got to

874
00:44:54.440 --> 00:44:57.519
<v Speaker 1>have visibility on everything that everybody's doing, you know, because

875
00:44:57.519 --> 00:45:01.000
<v Speaker 1>of drugs or because of whatever issue they want to

876
00:45:01.039 --> 00:45:04.679
<v Speaker 1>attribute this to, as if that is something that can

877
00:45:04.719 --> 00:45:07.400
<v Speaker 1>only be done with with a crypto, as if it's

878
00:45:07.519 --> 00:45:11.239
<v Speaker 1>not being done with the current financial system and cash

879
00:45:11.280 --> 00:45:13.760
<v Speaker 1>and all the rest of this stuff. So it is

880
00:45:13.800 --> 00:45:16.360
<v Speaker 1>a it is a troubling thing. And I guess the

881
00:45:16.440 --> 00:45:18.760
<v Speaker 1>question I have is, you know, when you get down

882
00:45:18.840 --> 00:45:21.920
<v Speaker 1>to just you know, only cracking that is that is

883
00:45:21.960 --> 00:45:26.000
<v Speaker 1>doing the privacy coins, is you know what what is?

884
00:45:26.119 --> 00:45:26.280
<v Speaker 4>Uh?

885
00:45:26.639 --> 00:45:28.800
<v Speaker 1>You know, as you point out the walls are closing

886
00:45:28.800 --> 00:45:31.400
<v Speaker 1>in on it, Uh, what is what does the future

887
00:45:31.440 --> 00:45:33.320
<v Speaker 1>look like with that? How do we get into that

888
00:45:33.400 --> 00:45:36.519
<v Speaker 1>system if they close down the last one?

889
00:45:36.960 --> 00:45:39.320
<v Speaker 3>Well, so again, you can buy a transparent coin.

890
00:45:39.400 --> 00:45:42.239
<v Speaker 2>I use a service called ex Alex, and there's another

891
00:45:42.280 --> 00:45:44.880
<v Speaker 2>one coming up called change Now where you can you

892
00:45:44.920 --> 00:45:47.480
<v Speaker 2>can go on to an exchange and you can buy whatever,

893
00:45:47.800 --> 00:45:51.679
<v Speaker 2>uh bitcoin cash, or you can buy a stable coin,

894
00:45:51.719 --> 00:45:54.599
<v Speaker 2>and then you can use these other services and that

895
00:45:54.679 --> 00:45:56.360
<v Speaker 2>are not based in the United States, and you can

896
00:45:56.360 --> 00:45:59.199
<v Speaker 2>swap your transparency coins. It's I mean, it's always an

897
00:45:59.280 --> 00:46:02.199
<v Speaker 2>arms race. It's always staying one step ahead. I will

898
00:46:02.239 --> 00:46:04.480
<v Speaker 2>say the capball is going to have a feature where

899
00:46:04.480 --> 00:46:07.800
<v Speaker 2>you will be able to buy I believe that man

900
00:46:07.920 --> 00:46:10.920
<v Speaker 2>Aaron Zano directly within the wallet using a credit card

901
00:46:11.000 --> 00:46:11.639
<v Speaker 2>or a debit card.

902
00:46:12.320 --> 00:46:14.119
<v Speaker 3>But this is why I keep this part of my

903
00:46:14.159 --> 00:46:14.920
<v Speaker 3>website up.

904
00:46:14.800 --> 00:46:18.519
<v Speaker 2>To date, because these these services are continually changing and

905
00:46:18.559 --> 00:46:23.119
<v Speaker 2>we just have to acknowledge that it is absolutely it

906
00:46:23.199 --> 00:46:25.880
<v Speaker 2>is absolutely a race. There's something that's that's being built

907
00:46:25.920 --> 00:46:28.840
<v Speaker 2>called Confidential Layers, which is going to be an ability

908
00:46:28.920 --> 00:46:34.000
<v Speaker 2>for people to take their existing bitcoin and ethereum and

909
00:46:34.960 --> 00:46:37.639
<v Speaker 2>do what it's called bridging essentially into xano, so that

910
00:46:37.679 --> 00:46:43.239
<v Speaker 2>they can make their transparent coins private. So again it's

911
00:46:43.320 --> 00:46:47.000
<v Speaker 2>a constant race and it's a constant battle for innovation.

912
00:46:47.559 --> 00:46:49.360
<v Speaker 2>Of course, the whole point of crypto to begin with

913
00:46:49.519 --> 00:46:51.559
<v Speaker 2>was peer to peer digital cast. So even the idea

914
00:46:51.559 --> 00:46:55.840
<v Speaker 2>of exchanges is kind of overblown, right, I mean, it.

915
00:46:55.920 --> 00:46:56.400
<v Speaker 3>Used to be.

916
00:46:57.440 --> 00:47:00.960
<v Speaker 2>Early on in twenty twelve, we had local bitcoin meetups

917
00:47:01.000 --> 00:47:02.920
<v Speaker 2>here in New Hampshire. I mean people would get together

918
00:47:03.000 --> 00:47:06.800
<v Speaker 2>in person. That's actually how this stuff started is people

919
00:47:07.320 --> 00:47:10.880
<v Speaker 2>meeting physically in person and exchanging these things cash and

920
00:47:11.280 --> 00:47:14.039
<v Speaker 2>crypto and all of that. That's how this started. And

921
00:47:14.079 --> 00:47:16.599
<v Speaker 2>then there was something called local Bitcoins that was created

922
00:47:16.639 --> 00:47:20.440
<v Speaker 2>to help facilitate that. Even that was shut down. So

923
00:47:21.679 --> 00:47:23.440
<v Speaker 2>and what they do is they go after you for

924
00:47:23.519 --> 00:47:25.440
<v Speaker 2>being in a money transmitter business. So if you came

925
00:47:25.480 --> 00:47:26.719
<v Speaker 2>to me and said, hey, I'd like to buy some

926
00:47:26.840 --> 00:47:30.119
<v Speaker 2>zano from you, you know, here's one thousand dollars of cash,

927
00:47:30.199 --> 00:47:33.320
<v Speaker 2>I can't do that because I don't have a money

928
00:47:33.360 --> 00:47:36.519
<v Speaker 2>transmitter license. And that's why, you know, my friend eating

929
00:47:36.599 --> 00:47:39.320
<v Speaker 2>is in prison for eight eight years, so you can't

930
00:47:39.360 --> 00:47:43.119
<v Speaker 2>even do the person to person stuff. So it's constantly

931
00:47:43.159 --> 00:47:46.599
<v Speaker 2>standing on top of new technologies and solutions and ways

932
00:47:46.639 --> 00:47:51.719
<v Speaker 2>of working around this. But there's no doubt that there

933
00:47:51.800 --> 00:47:54.920
<v Speaker 2>is no doubt that regulations that no one is proposing

934
00:47:55.119 --> 00:47:59.880
<v Speaker 2>a regulation that makes exchanges easier to use or that

935
00:48:00.119 --> 00:48:03.559
<v Speaker 2>lessons the reporting bird. No one, there's not a piece

936
00:48:03.559 --> 00:48:05.159
<v Speaker 2>of legislation that does that.

937
00:48:05.159 --> 00:48:07.760
<v Speaker 1>That's right, Yeah, yeah, and that's the key, you know,

938
00:48:07.840 --> 00:48:10.239
<v Speaker 1>the other part of it. It's not just keeping abreast

939
00:48:10.280 --> 00:48:13.960
<v Speaker 1>of the technology, but keeping abreast of the regulatory environment

940
00:48:14.039 --> 00:48:16.639
<v Speaker 1>so that you don't get trapped like your friend in

941
00:48:17.039 --> 00:48:21.679
<v Speaker 1>and yeah, Guard Goldsmith knows him and is I think

942
00:48:22.000 --> 00:48:25.239
<v Speaker 1>works with his radio station up there also in New

943
00:48:25.239 --> 00:48:30.239
<v Speaker 1>Hampshire's got Liberty Conspiracy as guards program. But it is

944
00:48:30.800 --> 00:48:32.599
<v Speaker 1>a crime what they've done him, a crime what they've

945
00:48:32.639 --> 00:48:37.519
<v Speaker 1>done to ross Albrick and it is a real can

946
00:48:37.639 --> 00:48:39.599
<v Speaker 1>you know when we look at this that that really

947
00:48:40.599 --> 00:48:42.440
<v Speaker 1>that's when they pull the veil back and you see

948
00:48:42.440 --> 00:48:45.199
<v Speaker 1>what these people really are. You see how much they

949
00:48:45.239 --> 00:48:48.719
<v Speaker 1>hate free speech, how much they hate privacy, how much

950
00:48:48.760 --> 00:48:51.079
<v Speaker 1>they want to control and track everything that we do.

951
00:48:51.199 --> 00:48:53.320
<v Speaker 1>And it truly is amazing. Once you start to look

952
00:48:53.320 --> 00:48:56.679
<v Speaker 1>at these issues, you start to realize what vampires they

953
00:48:56.760 --> 00:49:01.039
<v Speaker 1>literally are. It's just incredible, isn't it.

954
00:49:01.039 --> 00:49:03.239
<v Speaker 2>It is incredible And a lot of what they try

955
00:49:03.239 --> 00:49:04.800
<v Speaker 2>to do, and you touched on it earlier, is they

956
00:49:04.840 --> 00:49:07.119
<v Speaker 2>try to make privacy. Oh you're using a privacy coin,

957
00:49:07.159 --> 00:49:09.519
<v Speaker 2>this must mean you're a drug dealer or a money

958
00:49:09.559 --> 00:49:13.199
<v Speaker 2>launder or a terrorist. And the reality is, you know,

959
00:49:13.679 --> 00:49:15.440
<v Speaker 2>I use privacy coins because I know they're going to

960
00:49:15.480 --> 00:49:17.920
<v Speaker 2>go after you know, my ability to buy red and

961
00:49:17.960 --> 00:49:23.719
<v Speaker 2>meat or raw milk, or to you know, buy gas

962
00:49:23.760 --> 00:49:25.920
<v Speaker 2>and drive more than fifty miles in a week.

963
00:49:26.000 --> 00:49:27.199
<v Speaker 3>We know where this is going.

964
00:49:27.239 --> 00:49:29.159
<v Speaker 2>I mean, the end goal of this again is it's

965
00:49:29.199 --> 00:49:31.800
<v Speaker 2>an energy credit based digital currency tied to a social

966
00:49:31.800 --> 00:49:37.159
<v Speaker 2>credit system. So this is using privacy coins. Isn't use

967
00:49:37.239 --> 00:49:39.599
<v Speaker 2>privacy coins now so that the behavior that you're doing

968
00:49:39.679 --> 00:49:43.800
<v Speaker 2>today that is legal doesn't become illegal and then you

969
00:49:43.840 --> 00:49:46.159
<v Speaker 2>find yourself in the dark market just to get ahead

970
00:49:46.159 --> 00:49:49.119
<v Speaker 2>of that curve because it will affect all of us.

971
00:49:49.400 --> 00:49:51.559
<v Speaker 2>And that is and that is I will tell you

972
00:49:51.639 --> 00:49:53.360
<v Speaker 2>that is a big issue. We need to focus on

973
00:49:54.920 --> 00:49:58.800
<v Speaker 2>selling privacy and in particular for young people. There's a

974
00:49:58.840 --> 00:50:02.199
<v Speaker 2>Cato survey that thirty three percent of gen z I

975
00:50:02.199 --> 00:50:06.360
<v Speaker 2>believe are okay with surveillance cameras in the home, federal

976
00:50:06.480 --> 00:50:10.119
<v Speaker 2>government surveillance cameras and the home to monitor for domestic abuse.

977
00:50:10.679 --> 00:50:14.679
<v Speaker 2>So we have a really big disconnect. We have older

978
00:50:14.679 --> 00:50:18.400
<v Speaker 2>people understand privacy but aren't necessarily as tech savvy, but

979
00:50:18.440 --> 00:50:21.000
<v Speaker 2>the younger people are tech savvy but don't value privacy.

980
00:50:21.079 --> 00:50:22.639
<v Speaker 2>So in order to get to where.

981
00:50:22.440 --> 00:50:22.960
<v Speaker 3>We need to be.

982
00:50:23.039 --> 00:50:25.679
<v Speaker 2>We've got to make the tech easier and we have

983
00:50:25.719 --> 00:50:28.559
<v Speaker 2>to make people understand the importance of privacy as a

984
00:50:28.599 --> 00:50:29.480
<v Speaker 2>fundamental right.

985
00:50:29.800 --> 00:50:31.480
<v Speaker 1>That's a great way to put it. Yeah, Yeah, we

986
00:50:31.559 --> 00:50:34.360
<v Speaker 1>got a lot of people. I think that young people

987
00:50:34.440 --> 00:50:36.679
<v Speaker 1>haven't read Orl's nineteen eighty four. I think we've got

988
00:50:36.679 --> 00:50:38.400
<v Speaker 1>a lot of parents who haven't read Brave New World.

989
00:50:38.880 --> 00:50:40.320
<v Speaker 1>I like what you said about the fact that you

990
00:50:40.360 --> 00:50:42.519
<v Speaker 1>got the older generation values privacy, but they don't know

991
00:50:42.519 --> 00:50:44.760
<v Speaker 1>how to use tech to get it. The young generation

992
00:50:44.840 --> 00:50:47.239
<v Speaker 1>understands of tech, but they don't care about privacy. That's

993
00:50:47.280 --> 00:50:49.840
<v Speaker 1>the key thing, and they're coming for us. It's not

994
00:50:49.880 --> 00:50:51.880
<v Speaker 1>only have they laid this out that we're going to

995
00:50:51.920 --> 00:50:53.519
<v Speaker 1>control what you eat, what you do, and all the

996
00:50:53.559 --> 00:50:56.480
<v Speaker 1>rest of stuff, but we're also seeing this applied already politically.

997
00:50:56.519 --> 00:50:59.880
<v Speaker 1>We've seen Nigel Farage, for example, debanked. It's not just

998
00:51:00.079 --> 00:51:03.039
<v Speaker 1>the Operation Choke Point coming after the gun stores or anything,

999
00:51:03.079 --> 00:51:05.960
<v Speaker 1>but we've seen it come after him. We've seen them

1000
00:51:06.360 --> 00:51:12.440
<v Speaker 1>debanking AfD people in Germany. If you are their political opponents,

1001
00:51:12.480 --> 00:51:15.239
<v Speaker 1>they come after you with everything, but especially that that's

1002
00:51:15.239 --> 00:51:16.840
<v Speaker 1>the way they're going to shut people down as through

1003
00:51:16.880 --> 00:51:19.079
<v Speaker 1>the financial system. So that's one of the reasons why

1004
00:51:19.119 --> 00:51:22.440
<v Speaker 1>we've got to have financial privacy. Just the same way

1005
00:51:22.480 --> 00:51:24.760
<v Speaker 1>that they're coming after speech, they're going to come after

1006
00:51:25.079 --> 00:51:28.679
<v Speaker 1>that type of privacy as well. It's very vital and

1007
00:51:28.719 --> 00:51:31.039
<v Speaker 1>so I really do appreciate what you're doing. Again, tell

1008
00:51:31.039 --> 00:51:35.000
<v Speaker 1>people where it is. It is Daylightfreedom dot org. You

1009
00:51:35.000 --> 00:51:38.679
<v Speaker 1>can go that's Aaron Day's website. There a ton of

1010
00:51:38.760 --> 00:51:41.960
<v Speaker 1>useful information there. Click on the empower button and you

1011
00:51:42.000 --> 00:51:45.119
<v Speaker 1>can also find out where he's got these different in

1012
00:51:45.159 --> 00:51:49.400
<v Speaker 1>person what do you call them, presentations, classes or whatever?

1013
00:51:49.519 --> 00:51:50.760
<v Speaker 3>Workshops?

1014
00:51:50.880 --> 00:51:53.760
<v Speaker 1>Okay, and he's got one coming in October fifth in

1015
00:51:53.800 --> 00:51:56.320
<v Speaker 1>New Jersey. You mentioned the middle of December and Nashal.

1016
00:51:56.360 --> 00:51:57.599
<v Speaker 1>Where was the other one going to be?

1017
00:51:58.480 --> 00:52:00.639
<v Speaker 3>The other one is an Omaha, the ninth.

1018
00:52:00.840 --> 00:52:04.320
<v Speaker 1>That's great. Yeah, that's an excellent thing. And he's living

1019
00:52:04.320 --> 00:52:06.639
<v Speaker 1>the life right now. Right now, he's off the grid

1020
00:52:06.679 --> 00:52:10.400
<v Speaker 1>financially and he can help you to start to transition

1021
00:52:10.480 --> 00:52:13.719
<v Speaker 1>to that. It's very important use your freedom or lose it.

1022
00:52:14.000 --> 00:52:16.840
<v Speaker 1>And of course the key thing is having the knowledge

1023
00:52:16.920 --> 00:52:18.679
<v Speaker 1>of how this system works. Thank you so much for

1024
00:52:18.760 --> 00:52:20.920
<v Speaker 1>joining us, Aaron. I appreciate it anything for having me

1025
00:52:21.000 --> 00:52:23.239
<v Speaker 1>we've got about a minute or so. Anything you want

1026
00:52:23.280 --> 00:52:23.800
<v Speaker 1>to say.

1027
00:52:24.559 --> 00:52:26.480
<v Speaker 2>I would just say, because he was just at an

1028
00:52:26.480 --> 00:52:29.400
<v Speaker 2>event with three hundred people over the weekend, and people

1029
00:52:30.119 --> 00:52:33.760
<v Speaker 2>you know, look into hijacking Bitcoin, consider buying this book

1030
00:52:33.840 --> 00:52:38.400
<v Speaker 2>Hijacking Bitcoin, because so many people are misled about bitcoin

1031
00:52:38.559 --> 00:52:41.719
<v Speaker 2>and they're buying the narratives from you know, three twenty

1032
00:52:41.800 --> 00:52:44.280
<v Speaker 2>seventeen when it was hijacked. They're buying this idea that

1033
00:52:44.320 --> 00:52:46.480
<v Speaker 2>this is freedom money and that this is the way

1034
00:52:46.519 --> 00:52:49.519
<v Speaker 2>out of CBDCs, and in reality, they're walking their way

1035
00:52:49.559 --> 00:52:53.320
<v Speaker 2>into a surveillance asset that's been captured by Black Rock

1036
00:52:53.400 --> 00:52:56.000
<v Speaker 2>and captured by the banks. And so it's it's it

1037
00:52:56.079 --> 00:52:58.400
<v Speaker 2>is not the answer to the problem. It's actually becoming

1038
00:52:58.440 --> 00:53:01.639
<v Speaker 2>the problem. And the person literally wrote this book is

1039
00:53:01.679 --> 00:53:03.920
<v Speaker 2>not able to talk about it right at the time

1040
00:53:03.960 --> 00:53:07.000
<v Speaker 2>when he should be able to. So you know, you

1041
00:53:07.039 --> 00:53:09.599
<v Speaker 2>should be interviewing Roger Veer right now, not me, but

1042
00:53:09.400 --> 00:53:12.519
<v Speaker 2>but you can't because he's stuck in Spain. And by

1043
00:53:12.559 --> 00:53:13.599
<v Speaker 2>the way, I will also.

1044
00:53:13.400 --> 00:53:13.960
<v Speaker 3>Say the I R.

1045
00:53:14.079 --> 00:53:17.480
<v Speaker 2>S IS is coming after crypto in a big way.

1046
00:53:17.719 --> 00:53:19.960
<v Speaker 2>I believe the biggest learned this weekend. One of the

1047
00:53:20.000 --> 00:53:23.760
<v Speaker 2>biggest areas of hiring is in this crypto area. So

1048
00:53:24.599 --> 00:53:26.199
<v Speaker 2>and again they're not they're not doing it to get

1049
00:53:26.239 --> 00:53:28.199
<v Speaker 2>their fair share. They're doing it to shut down so

1050
00:53:28.239 --> 00:53:31.840
<v Speaker 2>that they can add the tyranny to our existing digital dollar.

1051
00:53:31.960 --> 00:53:34.800
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, absolutely, yeah. It's an army of IRS agents

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<v Speaker 1>that both the Republicans and Democrats want to send it.

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<v Speaker 1>And all they do is tease you with these little trinkets.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll cut the taxes over here, okay, while this army

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<v Speaker 1>of IRS agents is coming into this most in city

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<v Speaker 1>is saying it really makes me angry. I got a

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<v Speaker 1>comment here, Thank you Erin. I appreciate that from Guard

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<v Speaker 1>Goldsmith and thank you Guard. I appreciate that, he says.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been listening David and Aaron, and I want to

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<v Speaker 1>thank you. Pull that back up, Travis against it. Thanks

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<v Speaker 1>for your excellent work and dedication of truth peaceful interactions.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for mentioning Ian Freeman God bless. Yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 1>who Guard is working with. Thank you, folks. And by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, you want to get gold and silver, don't

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<v Speaker 1>forget Tony Ardaban. He's set up David Knight dot Gold.

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<v Speaker 3>You can get gold, silver, large or small quantities.

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<v Speaker 1>You can also start to accumulate that gradually, and he's

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<v Speaker 1>got a lot of different ways. You know, you can

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<v Speaker 1>get the goldbacks, you can get the little chick lit

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<v Speaker 1>things that you break off gold or silver. You can

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<v Speaker 1>get the group by discounts with Wolfpack. That's David Night

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<v Speaker 1>dot gold. Take you to Tony Ardaban. Thank you so

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<v Speaker 1>much for joining us. Thank you veron, appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 4>Let meet so you.

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<v Speaker 3>The David Knight Show.

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<v Speaker 4>watch it by using your eyes. In fact, if you

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<v Speaker 4>Knight Show right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, good job.

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<v Speaker 4>And you want to know something else. You can find

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<v Speaker 4>all the links to everywhere to watch or listen to

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<v Speaker 3>That's a website.