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Speaker 1: All right, let's try the Joe Rogan intro here three

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to one. Okay, we're live and we've got Rodney on

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the phone. Rodney is in what park? Texas? You live in?

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Speaker 2: Rodney in Northeast Texas. I'm actually in Minneola, Texas is

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where where I hang my hat. But at an hour,

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I can be in Louisiana, Arkansas, or Oklahoma. So I'm

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real close.

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Speaker 1: Rodney is. I got in touch with Rodney because I

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know a little bit, just a little bit about what

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they do, and I wanted to get him on here.

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So Rodney, thanks for coming on. Why don't you just

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take a minute and tell us about the group of

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guys that you have that y'all go out and hunt

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for these things and try to gather information on them.

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Can you spend a few minutes talking about that?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Absolutely, you know the group of guys which you

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know we do our expeditions and our hunts, you say,

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you know, we've been together going on better than twenty years,

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a lot of us. You know. Of course, we've got

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some new guys that come aboard, and you know, we

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got to school them and educate them on things they

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don't know. And you know, for your basic outdoors like

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myself twenty years ago, I walked through the woods and

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you know, I didn't recognize tree brakes and twists and

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formations you walk up on. You know, never in a

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million years thought that we had anything like that, especially

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down here where I lived. And I was just mesmerized

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by once I got out with active researchers and found

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out that, you know, we got them right here. I

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don't have to go to British Columbia, I don't have

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to go to Pacific Northwest. I mean, we got them

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right here. What got me involved with it in the

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very beginning was, and I think you seventy two, I

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believe it was a legend of Bocket Creek come out

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and being right there in fal Arkanas is a hawk

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skipping a jump for us. So actually I started sitting

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sending out emails and stuff and actually smoking Crabtree, the

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movie that it was based on. Put me in touch

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with the president and direct here for TBRC. I was

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just I was like a kid in the Candy story, like, Wow,

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there's a big book group right here that and they're

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meeting this weekend twenty miles from me. I'm going to

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be there. Then let's say I jumped aboard right then,

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and I learned a lot from a lot of those guys,

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and then several of them went out on their own,

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and we kind of went out on our own independent research.

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You know. All the politics or not that they were

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right on, they just didn't fit my bill of cell

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at the time. You know, I was wanting to learn

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more about the creature itself and the tabits and and anything.

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I was like a sponge man. I was like anything

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I could take, and I was taken in and I started,

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you know, over a course, over a period of time,

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you know, you started developing fundamental skill as far as

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want to look for in the seasons. And they are

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migratory type creatures, and they do, you know, move, they

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do move with the vegetation in the animals and the

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game trails. And the group of guys I'm with now,

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you know, you know, they offered me a spot membership

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in their group many many years back, and we've been

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together ever since. It's like my primary family. I talked

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to them just about morning through my own family. You know.

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Speaker 1: So well, let me stop you just real quick and

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ask a question. I hope you don't mind me interrupting

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every once in a while. But so you you leaped

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off into this topic, not because of an encounter or

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anything you had as a kid, but you you saw

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some you saw the Boggy Creek Monster movie. You just

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got real interested in it, and that's how you got

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started in it, right.

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Speaker 2: Well, yes, and then my grandmother, you know, of course

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growing up as a child. My grandmother grew up and

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was an Acadochi's, Texas and she had an encounter as

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a younger girl. And of course I heard that same

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story over and over for you know, eleven twelve years

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of my life, and it's like I couldn't hear many

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enough times, you know, I always had to hear it.

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I always had that you know, that question mark in

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the back of my head. You know that'd be so

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you be so cool to you know, to actually see one.

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And you know, I'm made a quest in my life

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if I ever got the opportunity that I would be

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part of something like that, in hopes it would be

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blessed one day to see one of these creatures. And

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you know, He's blessed me several times through the past,

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and you know, I never I wouldn't give it up

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for anything, and I guess my grandmother initially planted a

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seed in me. And then of course the movie. And

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I still watch that movie today if it comes on,

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I'll watch it evenough I got the DVD. It's just

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one of the things that's just it just keeps me

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on the edge of my feet, and it just you know,

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now that I know more about it, and it's not

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too far fetch. I mean, you know, of course, you

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got your nonbelievers, and they're welcome to their they're welcome

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to their opinion. And you know, it's like people come

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up to me all the time. We're you know, in

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the big food community, you're under heavy script scriganization. No

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matter what you do, what you say, or what evident

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you produce would be tracked blood hair. They just want

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a body. And I'm sure the government has already got several,

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you know, no doubt in my mind on the But

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you know, they say, well, can you prove to me there,

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How can you prove to me there is I said,

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how can you prove to me there's not two thousand

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titans plus a year, even with you know, police officers

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and dash cams and you know, not everybody's drinking and

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not everybody's on drugs. I mean, it's a big primate

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here for a reason. For what that is, we don't know,

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but it's here.

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Speaker 1: I'm just curious. What did your grandmother call them?

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Speaker 2: She called them, she called them bigfoot, She called them

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a big foot.

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Speaker 1: She didn't call them.

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Speaker 2: Now that's usually all my friends from uh Mississippi way

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that they call them that, they call them bookis, your

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older generation, for the most part, they'd call them. They'd

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call them bootis, And of course, you know, a lot

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of your Native Americans and stuff. We had got a

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few friends that actually grew up on the reservations. They would,

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you know, call them that. They call them the tall

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one and shadows in the forest and they just all

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sorts of tall one was probably the most popular. And yeah,

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my mem she called it the bigfoot, and that's what

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our daddy told her it was, because she kept asking

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what it was. Because of course, there wasn't any talk

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back in my lord, this would have been back in

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my forties, so there wasn't any talk of a bigfoot

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or you know, lots of them. The crazy woman streaming

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in the woods again kind of where they got it from,

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and of course that crazy woman was a big foot

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streaming in the woods doing this thing. It just wasn't

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you know what the popularity of a before. It wasn't

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notarized back then. You know, there was no no uh,

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notoriety of it. You know, it just wasn't heard of.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's funny, you said, that's what I call my grandmother,

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me mom my, me mom. People. That's that's what we

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told them. You were kind of introduced to it by

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your grandmother, and then you're you're seeing things on in

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the media about it, movies, and then you get really interested.

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Then you joined this group and you're kind of praying

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for an encounter. Uh can you can you kind of

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move to that and let us can you talk about

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your first encounter? Tell tell them all that that's what

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that was like.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, first encountering. You know, we're gonna to run

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normal search missions. That actually just my son and I

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went out to walk game trails and everything we wanted to.

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you know, the deer and your bigger wildlife has been

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moving through you know, from the feet on its the

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blackberries and you know, all of your forgees. They would

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go for us. It was blooming yet. This was April

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of two thousand and eight. That would be the first

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time my son and aw, he was young, he's a

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young guy, fourteen years old. And of course I had

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my you know, I had my handgun with me under

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you know, under my bluejee jacket. My son had his

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little he had a little crossbow with him. I'm sorry.

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It's a little compound boat we were walking through and

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we were out a seven river bottoms. You know, it's

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pretty expansive. It's it's a large place, bust up to

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a wildlife management area. We come down through this draw

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and we could hear I could hear something at this time. Mean,

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you know, I wasn't new to it then I knew

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what to call singles on calls sound like treeingnock, little whistles,

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and I could hear that stuff from a couple of

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different directions. We I just told, you know, my son,

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we just kept onward through the fog. We would say,

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you know, we just kept kept our nose to the ground.

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Some one walking the trail and as we come up

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around this, I guess there's bend on the trail itself.

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especially in that area around the Sabbage River. It's it's sick,

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but you can see twenty thirty yards of visibility, and

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you can see through the brush and stuff like that,

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and of course the big pine there, you know, they're

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staggered out. And as we come up by this, probably

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about fifteen twenty yards, I would say this time, this

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thing just steps out with its left foot. It steps

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out in the middle of the trail, with its arm

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hanging down on the left side of its right hand.

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tree is probably so was a bat man, probably eighteen

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to twenty inches in diameter. And the way he had

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his hand around the tree, as I could see his

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fingertip on one side and I could see his thumb

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on the other side inside of the facing us. So

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he's almost calm in this tree. But looking at his faces,

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he was as startled as that us being there is

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it's stepping in front of us because we both come

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to the hall. Of course, my son, being young, you

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was he you know, he didn't know what to do,

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to do either, but I knew not to run, but

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it wasn't acting aggressive or anything of that nature. It did.

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even as I listened to some of your videos. It'll

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flip their lip, you know, the top clipp It flipped

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the flip and bolted in a couple of times. And uh,

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it did let a low you know, a guttural deep

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guttur old ground, but not it's more like a dog

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that you spooked or something. It was like, you know,

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just a real short gasping, a good old grow. And

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I mean you could feel it in your chest, you

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really could. And I don't know if that's how they

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produced this infra sound that they do or part of

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their you know, part of their equipment that they hunt

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with or whatever, but it does freezy, and you know,

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it's like for this thing, I would guess was probably

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as he went on about his business. We kind of

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the top of my stand on top of my fingers

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are at eight foot in his head, you know, of

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course they kind of been over a little bit. Top

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of his head was still a round to eight foot mark.

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is left arm is the one hanging to the side

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has down, you know, probably about six inches blow of

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his knees. He kind of goes down like he's going

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to go on fours, and you know, of course my son,

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he has his compound bowl and he's got it hanging

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down to the side. Nothing aggressive. And I start to

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reach into my jacket as he goes down on fours

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because I always keep wanting a pile flocks and loaded

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just in case. But I didn't want to have to

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go there because I always tell myself I don't want

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to ever shoot one, because I definitely don't mean no harm.

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I just soon put my hand up and wave at

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it and hope that some type of communication, be honest

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with you. But being my son was there, and if

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I had to, I definitely would have been a jump

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forward or anything like that. I believe I could have

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emptied the clip. I that it would have done a

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lot of good, but it would have been it would

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have been working, you know, to save my son myself.

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But I just told my son, I said, look, don't

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make our contact with it. Look down, and we both

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kind of look toward the ground. I said, we're going

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to start taking a few backsteps, and we started, so

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it stood back up again, and as fast as it appeared,

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it disappeared. Now, when I say disappeared, you hear stuff

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all the time about all the same time warping and

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all this stuff. Well, I'm not a big believer in

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that personally, and that's his own personal outsake of it.

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But I could see clearly, you know, for like I said,

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about twenty five thirty yards in any direction, and I

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seen it go past the tree and down this draw

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and I seen it look back over its left shoulder

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one time at us, and it seen that we wasn't

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doing anything aggressive. We wasn't running, we wasn't moving, but

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I was trying to was bobbing my head trying to

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watch this thing. And as it got about twenty five

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thirty yards from us, I walked up to the tree

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in which it had come out from behind, and look,

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I couldn't fee it. I could hear, you know, it

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sounded like a little miniature bulldoze or a boss cat

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going through there. That you could see the tops of

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these saplings and stuff, you know, these ten twelve fourteen

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foot saplings just leaning over as it was going through,

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is pushing on them. But I could never see it

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again after that. Of course, some more whistles and stuff

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come from the east of us, and actually some more

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whistles come from behind us. You know. It was just

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amazing how fast it blended, blended because it's a mash

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of its environment, no doubt about it. It's a mash

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of its environment. You can walk, I mean, I should

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have seen the things standing beside the tree before I

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ever got to the tree. And it's like, I'm very observant,

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you know, because there's you know, there's an occasional bear there,

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a little black bear, but you know, bears, a bear, dogs,

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you know, we got big cats down here, and you know,

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of course tyotes were general. I don't worry about those

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too much, but you know the big cats they do

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jump out of trees and they make their shove well alone,

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you know, and you know there is a dangerous Why

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there sat on when you time them in the wood,

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and this thing just disappeared, and I could hear it

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paced us all the way that we probably quarter miles

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in the parking area. I'm pretty sure there was a

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couple of them pacing us, and we'd stop, it would stop,

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your normal And I told my son, I said, they're

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going to follow us just about all the way out.

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They come this far, they're going to follow us all

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the way out. Of course you'd have a little rock

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and pebble sometime you something get thrown, not at us,

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but by us. This is kind of their way of

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lett us know that they keep on moving, you know,

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That's that's what they're telling you. Of course, when I

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got out of there, we got back to the vehicle

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unloaded up, we were That's kind of when the adrenaline

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really hit in. It's like you really set in on

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what had just happened, and you got to kind of

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soak it all in and evaluate and reevaluate. Of course,

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I called my team members and plain to them what

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it had and then a few days later myself along

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with one of my other colleagues, we went out and

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as we went in there, you know we've seen a

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little bit more territorial markers for exformations. Kind of went

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in a different different direction and went that away and

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seen those markers. You know, a lot of you know,

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I definectated that just took into the warning they're very

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adamant about, and that's why they put another especially the

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ex formations that I mean, when you see one of

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those that's just a territory marker for other bigfoot or whatever,

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and also for us humans even though most people have

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not a clue what it is. But it is a

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big old keep out time. Basically you just spelled out

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in English for everybody. You know, a lot of people

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have found found that out the hard way, being chased out,

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having rocks thrown at him, I mean tree trunks slung

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at him. I I've seen, I've seen quite a bit.

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Speaker 1: I'm curious about your your son. Does he talk about this?

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How old is he now?

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Speaker 2: Each twenty?

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Speaker 1: Now, it's amazing you had a a witness there with you,

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so you can corroborate everything. It's not like you were

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out there just thinking you saw something. I mean, y'all

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really saw it.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, he thinks about it, and uh it's

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not as that's not the scariest and kinder he's been

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involved in. But he's had one little more hair and that.

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But it wasn't you know, it didn't do anything to

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him or anything.

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Speaker 1: But is he a part of your group?

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Speaker 2: Yes, there he is.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so it's a father son deal. That's great. That

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must be fun for y'all y'all y'all go out camping

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and stuff on your excursions, and is that how do

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you do that?

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Speaker 2: Well, we usually have planned you know, planned event. We

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usually you know, pick date and look at the weather

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and uh, timmy year, you know, knowing these things should

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or possibly to be moving through, and we planted around

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in times and you know, sometimes it's just him and

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I and you know we've introduced another lot of time

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friend of his into it. And of course his father's

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had encounters in his middle lives, you know, midd lives,

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and you know it's fun to hear his encounters and

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stories and you know, the young getting the younger generation

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involved involved in something like that, or they take notice

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and get comfortable with it. You know, it was an outstanding,

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an outstanding especially being fathered something like you're saying it.

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I mean, there's there's not too many father and sons

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that can say they've seen getting in experience what we've

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been into.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well it definitely gives y'all something to talk or

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talk about at the dinner table. I'm sure. So that's

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your first encounter and it wasn't a violent encounter. It

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was a pretty benign encounter. And this thing. This thing

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pretty much just walked away and they tracked you out

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moving forward. How how have things progressed with your with

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your search for this thing? Other? You said your son

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had a more hairy encounter.

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Speaker 2: Do that?

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Speaker 1: Do you have y'all ever had any aggressive behavior from them?

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Speaker 2: Well, we've had I mean we've had some pretty this

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saus boulders. I call them bowlders because there's a size

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of a bowling ball. And I mean we've had them launched.

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We've seen them be they've been launched from the tree line,

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which would be you know, forty fifty feet from us.

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Of course it was in the late evenings and stuff.

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And this thing these things come now where the rock

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where they got them from? I have no idea, but

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just to that something with an opposing thumb, So no

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that the question for a bear or anything to throw

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anything at anybody. You know, these things come launching out

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of the tree line well quite a bit of velocity.

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And I mean how these things are so accurate. I'm

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pretty sure it's part of their hunting skills. I mean,

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these things can launch tree trunks. I mean, you know,

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I believe with six eight foot tree trunk gets slung

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like a boomerang. I mean you can hear it coming

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through the air, man, I mean literally you can. You

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can hear it coming through the air as you can

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imagine when you pick up us helicoportable. It's horrible. But

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we've had you know, we've had them screaming holler, I

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mean in the fish black and you know, you can

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watch one on the fleer and you can watch it running.

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But when it's running at you and screaming, and when

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you look off and there's another one in there screaming

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obviously in the guttural growl. When these things growl, it's

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not like going to the zoo and listening to one

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of the Big Five growl at you. It's a whole

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different deal. I mean, your way beyond paying attention, your

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way beyond that these things are. You know, I grew

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up and it was a very outdoors guy. I'm not

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scared of anything, and these things make me nervous. They

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I mean, you don't have every I mean anything that

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can launch rocks that you know, I use two hands

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to pick up for the most part, and these things

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are chunking them like they're you know, tennis ball, and

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when they hit the ground they embed in the ground.

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It's like, you know, there's several different occasions, you know,

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you find pigs and pigs have been of course, the

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lego be tore off and from where it's swung it

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against the tree, you know, I actually be rip part

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of the rib cage embedded into the tree. Of course,

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they take what they want, you know. It's just something

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that can do that, especially a hog as me and

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as them things are. I mean, we're not talking little babies,

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and we're talking sows and hogs up in the three

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hundred pound plus range, you know, big, a huge one.

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Towels of their next, you know, next hold it back,

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you know, just pull it straight back, and they tore off.

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And the strength of these things is unimaginable. I wouldn't

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want one to get a hold of me. I really wouldn't,

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you know. And I pray to God every time I

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go out to allow that thing to know that I

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mean and no harm whatsoever. And I would never never

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try to violate it its space of privacy in that matter.

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But these other things that are running out there, I'm

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gonna call them what they are. They're monsters. These things

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are the snouts. And that's a whole different topic because

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we're not talking about the same species or or animal

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at all.

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Speaker 1: What do you want to do? You want to talk

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about that now or do you want to hold it

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for later? I mean, that's you and I talked about

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that earlier today when we set this pointment up to

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do this recording, and that's fascinating stuff. You want to

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wait or you want to talk about your.

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Speaker 2: Ya, I'll get in I'll get into it. I'll see

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about that other encounter. The son and I I we

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were up there and up an Oklahoma area and the

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time eat yeeson. We actually was waiting for one of

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the other colleagues to show up next morning. And where

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we pat up there is a wild Lofe management area

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that busts right up to the It's an old campground,

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I mean it's and it's old. I mean there's no

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no water, no electric, no anything. It's just it's an

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old fishing can sole it is. Of course, I parked

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my truck up there in front of the tent, and uh,

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you know, it was colder and all. And this is

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a right mid February and we're sitting there and we're asleep.

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Of course, I got my little little rat carrier. Of course,

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you know, he thinks he's a pit bulldog. These thinks

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she's mean, but it's about twenty pounds of nudared fatness

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is all he is. He thinks something, but he she

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used to it looks like a big old sausage with

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a little head on it. He's crazy like that. Oh yeah, Well,

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Dylan is about about two o'clock in the morning. Know,

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he needs to relieve itself. So he opened up the

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tent for him, and I said, look, just just step

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out and move to the right and you'll bill take

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you know. Of course my dogs needed to go at

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the same time. When the dog goes out around the

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edge of the tent. Well, I've been hearing I been

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hearing something move around back behind the tent, which I

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didn't think much of it because they have a lot

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of raccoons. We've done run a couple of them all

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they're trying to take her. We made some soup and

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left the cans out. Of course they got my trash.

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Had to run them off, and didn't think a lot

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about it. But then I kept hearing something and this

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the first time this is happening. You heard something sniffing

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sniffing around the base of the tent. It was more

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than agily than a human or your riders, you know,

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very deep. I mean, the breastless thing was when he

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was in heal and was quite large. And I'm sitting

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there thinking, and uh, every once in a while, O miles,

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I could hear you hear something slap the fabric of

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the outside of the tent on the backside. So and

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I hadn't heard it for a while, but evidently one

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of these things, whether it have been an adolescent a

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younger one would be my guess, must have been kind

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of hunkered down on the backside of the canny, real

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close proximity of it. So when the dog walking on

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that first corner, you would have thought he got hit

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by a car. He screeched, scared the hell out of

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me and my son. He falls back into the tent

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and he's got done yet. So you can use your

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imagination if there was a rainbow in air, right, yeah,

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and that's like what the hell and the dog comply

474
00:22:57,759 --> 00:23:01,079
back in the tent. He was still on himself. And

475
00:23:01,079 --> 00:23:03,200
then I hear the same run on. I jump out

476
00:23:03,279 --> 00:23:05,160
of ten. I hit the spider, of course, go through

477
00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:08,119
that I'm looking for eyeshine morning and the shadow greer,

478
00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:11,799
I'm looking for eye shine. It's always a nice red

479
00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:15,720
red eye, you know, a glowing red eyes, you know,

480
00:23:16,079 --> 00:23:18,480
while they're that color, I don't know, but that's the

481
00:23:18,599 --> 00:23:22,079
fellers that I look for. See way wound up being

482
00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,519
more funny than anything. But it was scary at time

483
00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:28,400
because you know, he's, poor fella, he's asking, he's ask away,

484
00:23:28,599 --> 00:23:32,160
sitting there and dog comes featuring and hollering back around

485
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:35,279
at him and everything they sing. Puscle takes out run

486
00:23:35,279 --> 00:23:37,799
and carried me that it all happened, because that was

487
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,720
you know, I was relaxed, just laying there and all

488
00:23:40,799 --> 00:23:44,039
this breakthroughs like that. He was laying in sleep sleep

489
00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:46,319
winkle the wrest of the night, and know did he

490
00:23:46,519 --> 00:23:48,640
and he you know he we slept in the center

491
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,480
of this tenth and six man tent. You know, it's

492
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:54,000
just it's just one of the one of the simple,

493
00:23:54,559 --> 00:23:57,640
I guess, simpler encounters. But as far as aggressive, I mean,

494
00:23:57,680 --> 00:23:59,440
we've been we've been running out of the woods like

495
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:03,200
on day Tree if the stuff myself not my son

496
00:24:03,279 --> 00:24:06,240
on this and with my colleagues, we've had these things

497
00:24:06,279 --> 00:24:09,319
literally Chase us out. I mean they chased us out.

498
00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:11,640
We were running from it, and it was running behind us.

499
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:13,720
And when we got to the tree line and we

500
00:24:13,799 --> 00:24:17,640
broke into a clearing, I guess close enough to our vehicle,

501
00:24:18,279 --> 00:24:20,720
and we've had a you know, a dent knocked into

502
00:24:20,759 --> 00:24:22,440
the back of the truck and stuff like that on

503
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:25,200
the quarter pack back behind the right rear wheel, you know.

504
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,640
As we took off, flap it real good like it

505
00:24:27,759 --> 00:24:30,799
and it was dark, but I mean it was coming.

506
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,519
I mean, if we wouldn't have been a few steps

507
00:24:33,519 --> 00:24:36,319
ahead over or we don't know what would happen, to

508
00:24:36,319 --> 00:24:39,279
be honest with y'all, be just pure speculation there. I mean,

509
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:42,519
it may have let us go. It may have mauled

510
00:24:42,599 --> 00:24:44,359
us up. I don't know, but I know it was

511
00:24:44,759 --> 00:24:48,839
we started out chunking, jumping things at us and screaming

512
00:24:49,319 --> 00:24:52,640
in a very violid manner. We may have been too,

513
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,119
plus may have been a cub, you know, young and

514
00:24:55,319 --> 00:24:58,559
there somewhere. I've only seen one female in my time,

515
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,279
you know, of course. You see, she had breast and everything,

516
00:25:01,319 --> 00:25:04,319
and she was adam it about making sure we didn't

517
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:09,000
come any closer, and than the males chimed in and

518
00:25:09,319 --> 00:25:11,240
they run us out of there, and they let us

519
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:14,720
know real quick they did not want us there, and

520
00:25:14,759 --> 00:25:18,240
of course we listen to their instruction. You know, we

521
00:25:18,319 --> 00:25:20,799
got out of there dealing with one A look different

522
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,359
than three or four. I mean, we've been surrounded by

523
00:25:23,839 --> 00:25:25,720
I would say three to four of these things at

524
00:25:25,759 --> 00:25:27,480
a time. And it's not like, you know, it's a

525
00:25:27,519 --> 00:25:28,680
real top family unit.

526
00:25:29,559 --> 00:25:32,720
Speaker 1: I've never been even near one that I know of,

527
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,160
But I think I'm going to know if they want

528
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:38,000
me gone. And you just know that, don't you?

529
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:42,079
Speaker 2: You feel it? It's not that you you know, sometimes

530
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:45,079
you get this like man's look, I'm being watched. You

531
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,519
really need to pay attention to it. That's like something

532
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:52,319
watching you. Still, like something's watching them. You tell yourself, now,

533
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,640
I've never heard that happen out here. And you keep

534
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:58,440
that feeling. Chances are you know, are you saying something

535
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:02,680
other or not about you put up gearnets and stuff dearly?

536
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,759
You let deer come in and pick your fruit, trees

537
00:26:05,799 --> 00:26:08,640
and your stuff like that, you know, throw them up

538
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:12,559
for you. They follow them, you know them berries and

539
00:26:12,599 --> 00:26:15,480
if you got berries and when and while the fruit

540
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,480
and stuff like that growing, and the deer are coming.

541
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,319
I can assure you you have would there be any

542
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:24,319
kind around your house that you've got one somewhere not

543
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,960
real far from you. Just the crazy things they do.

544
00:26:28,559 --> 00:26:31,480
They just do some whether it be horse trading with

545
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:33,839
you know, they'll take your stuff and leave your skull.

546
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,400
You'll find the skull that you know wasn't there the

547
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:40,240
other day. Rock that don't belong in that area. They'll

548
00:26:40,279 --> 00:26:42,720
just show up. You'll find them in a power or

549
00:26:42,799 --> 00:26:45,480
stacked up or gave r up by your house. Sometimes

550
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:49,720
you'll find you'll start focusing on things that you never

551
00:26:49,759 --> 00:26:53,200
would have looked for before. When you start once they

552
00:26:53,279 --> 00:26:56,000
let you know that, hey, this is what I do.

553
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:58,480
You know, everyone of us got their own calling guard,

554
00:26:58,839 --> 00:27:01,400
I guess you would say. And you'll find the limbs

555
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,200
and that are from any trees that you have right

556
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:08,279
there in your immediate area. You know, sometimes it's people

557
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,240
just overlook at you see a branch that are now

558
00:27:10,319 --> 00:27:13,480
we really don't process that, but you look at that

559
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,599
kind of something. Just that simple can be the difference

560
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,119
whether you have one right there in your media area

561
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:22,519
immediate area, or if it's just passing through or migrating

562
00:27:22,559 --> 00:27:25,880
to north or south and looking for a mate. There's

563
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:29,160
just so many different just so many different scenarios that

564
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:29,920
can play out.

565
00:27:30,559 --> 00:27:34,319
Speaker 1: That's funny. Every time I talk to somebody out they

566
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,799
say something, it's like you just mentioned, there'll be a

567
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:40,119
tree limb laying there that doesn't belong there. On one

568
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,599
of these old logging roads that I take my dogs

569
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,400
back on, there's a bunch of hardwood back there, and

570
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:49,440
then there's a bunch of pine pine thickets. About a

571
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,079
week ago, we had a pretty good wind come through

572
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,759
and I walked past. There was a pine branch right

573
00:27:54,799 --> 00:27:57,200
in the middle of the road. And I walked past

574
00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,039
it two or three days in a row, and then

575
00:27:59,079 --> 00:28:02,480
I stopped yesterday, and I was gonna move it either way,

576
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,640
because I run my four wheeler back through there every

577
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,240
once in a while. And I got to looking around,

578
00:28:07,319 --> 00:28:09,359
and that's in the middle of the hardwoods. There's not

579
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,960
a pine tree for one hundred yards in either direction,

580
00:28:13,279 --> 00:28:16,240
and I know the wind wasn't strong enough to blow

581
00:28:16,279 --> 00:28:18,119
it through the woods and all the way out in

582
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:21,200
that road. Is that what you're talking about?

583
00:28:21,799 --> 00:28:24,759
Speaker 2: That's exactly what I'm talking about. Something just that subtle.

584
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:29,559
It's something that subtle that they may be putting up

585
00:28:29,559 --> 00:28:32,240
there to see if you realize that that's even happening.

586
00:28:32,279 --> 00:28:34,480
And then once they see that it draws your attention.

587
00:28:34,839 --> 00:28:37,000
You may be looking for more of those type of

588
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:40,079
branches even closer to your house. Just keeping eye on

589
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,440
things like that, and then things I like that. I

590
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:47,000
mean rocks, Rocks are their favorites. Rocks. They'll bring rocks,

591
00:28:47,079 --> 00:28:52,000
river stones, and sometimes of larger pea, gravel and stuff. Well,

592
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,319
there's none of this around here. What the hell is

593
00:28:54,319 --> 00:28:56,920
this rock doing way up here? I mean, where did

594
00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:58,839
this come from? I had dug up one of these

595
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:00,839
around my house at twenty Here is where did this

596
00:29:01,039 --> 00:29:03,440
come from? Sometimes you know, they'll set it in the

597
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:07,680
most obvious place where they know that you. Frequently they see,

598
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,640
you know, walk your animals, dogs, you know some other things.

599
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,119
You've got a good plan I call it, or a

600
00:29:13,119 --> 00:29:16,279
family unit. They see that you're In general, they don't

601
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,160
like dogs because dogs give them up. Dogs will for

602
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,640
the most part, start barking at them, give away their

603
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:24,880
location and stuff. And this is why you hear so

604
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:30,200
many dog fatalities and injury to dogs themselves in that nature,

605
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,039
because that's what happens. Now, you do also have the

606
00:29:33,079 --> 00:29:35,279
one to see that you love and take care of

607
00:29:35,359 --> 00:29:38,960
your animals. And they also they know what affection is.

608
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,039
You know, they have it as a family unit. It's

609
00:29:41,119 --> 00:29:43,759
like you see primate grillas. You know the mothers holding

610
00:29:43,799 --> 00:29:47,279
they're young that they actually nurture the nurture their own

611
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:52,039
and they recognize that you don't have a negative attitude

612
00:29:52,119 --> 00:29:54,359
or they can feel these things. And you know you

613
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,240
can feel a tension. You don't have to see it,

614
00:29:56,359 --> 00:29:59,119
you can feel it. If somebody's upset or are in

615
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:02,359
their body language, you can you know they read a

616
00:30:02,359 --> 00:30:02,799
lot off.

617
00:30:02,799 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 1: The bad dogs can pick that up. I know that

618
00:30:06,319 --> 00:30:08,519
about dog. They know when I'm tense, and they know

619
00:30:08,599 --> 00:30:12,400
when I'm angry, and they know when I'm happy. And yeah,

620
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,119
I agree with that. That is so funny.

621
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 2: Horses. Horses are number one.

622
00:30:18,359 --> 00:30:22,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm horrible with horses. Avoid them. Every horse I've

623
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,799
ever been on has tried to kill me, so I

624
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,519
just stay away from them. But that's funny. Because Rick

625
00:30:27,599 --> 00:30:30,640
Wells Woodburger Farm. Are you familiar with him.

626
00:30:30,759 --> 00:30:32,839
Speaker 2: I've heard the name. I don't know personally.

627
00:30:33,839 --> 00:30:36,279
Speaker 1: He lives up in Kentucky. Just a great guy and

628
00:30:36,359 --> 00:30:39,480
he emails me every once in a while. And after

629
00:30:39,519 --> 00:30:41,599
he heard that heard me say that, he was like,

630
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:43,440
you got him. You got them there. If they're picking

631
00:30:43,519 --> 00:30:45,759
all you blackberries, you got them. I just can't.

632
00:30:45,839 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 2: I can't.

633
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 1: I just can't believe it. It's just hard for me

634
00:30:48,759 --> 00:30:51,000
to believe because I just don't. I'm not that observing,

635
00:30:51,119 --> 00:30:54,720
I guess. But anyway, well, now, so through all your

636
00:30:54,759 --> 00:30:58,920
studies and your it's not scientific study, but you're you

637
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,759
guys are observer and you're always looking for anything different,

638
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,839
anything strange that you cannot that you can connect with

639
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:09,119
these things. And then you just start putting two and

640
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:10,279
two together, don't you.

641
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,799
Speaker 2: And you yeah, a lot of it is too. Like

642
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:18,559
the first cast I casted from down in that area,

643
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,480
uh you know down there you know is you know,

644
00:31:21,519 --> 00:31:25,359
it's outside of Paris, Texas. And I got this cast. Well,

645
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,359
mister Chilcutt, which I know you remember that name, he

646
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,160
was a forensic. He does all the fingerprints and the

647
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,319
footprints and stuff. This is what he does. And of

648
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,759
course Jeff Meldram and my footprint got presented to him.

649
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:39,200
That's why he was. You know, they have that big

650
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:42,640
Foot College in Jefferson, Texas. Once a year, my cast

651
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,400
was presented to him, and he went over with a

652
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:48,559
fine tooth comment. It was it was deemed of an

653
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,759
unknown primate. Appreciate it was, you know what we call

654
00:31:51,799 --> 00:31:54,160
it thirteen seventy six. I mean it wasn't at thirteen

655
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:57,319
inches long, seven inches across the ball six at the

656
00:31:57,359 --> 00:32:01,039
hill and this one. I'd seen this thing at night

657
00:32:01,119 --> 00:32:06,000
time from from probably about seventy five yards. We built

658
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:10,160
when we go out, we'll build two or three different fires,

659
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,400
dummy fires would call them, you know, but we and

660
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,240
we'll sit at one. But we looked and I could

661
00:32:16,319 --> 00:32:21,039
see something messing around the fire or the gloves of

662
00:32:21,039 --> 00:32:24,400
the ambers and the fire, and of course lo and

663
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:26,240
behold over there and we can see it. It was,

664
00:32:26,759 --> 00:32:29,160
you know, it was messed within everything. And of course

665
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:34,599
didn't see it very clear into that next morning. Well man,

666
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,720
just a perfect footprint. Man hit all the toes. I mean,

667
00:32:37,839 --> 00:32:40,759
there's so much detail. I mean, see the toenails. You

668
00:32:40,759 --> 00:32:43,519
could just see. It's such a perfect cast. And you know,

669
00:32:43,599 --> 00:32:46,480
it was my first cast to personally cast myself, so

670
00:32:46,559 --> 00:32:48,079
it was a real big deal to me, you know,

671
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:51,359
and I still got it to this day. It's like, man, wow,

672
00:32:51,799 --> 00:32:55,960
you know, yeahnt you know they're hard to come across

673
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,599
and couldn't do it. The smart they're very smart dried

674
00:32:58,599 --> 00:33:00,400
on to leave tricks. And that's why you see a

675
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,640
lot of these, a lot of these videos and these

676
00:33:02,839 --> 00:33:05,440
pictures of these trees that are bowed over. You know,

677
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:07,960
they'll use these things. They'll jump up top tree and

678
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,960
they'll swing on the dude, you know, bowl that tree over.

679
00:33:11,079 --> 00:33:13,680
Of course, that helps them skip about twenty foot. You

680
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,319
know when they get up on these trees and ride

681
00:33:16,359 --> 00:33:18,519
the top of the back down to the ground, and

682
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,559
you know, it throws you off and it helps two

683
00:33:21,599 --> 00:33:23,880
different things. You know, I've heard this before and I

684
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,880
agree with it. Is the tension off that tree that

685
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:31,839
bowls over. It keeps from the impact, the landing impact.

686
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:35,119
It probably helps them absorber injury. You know, when you

687
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:38,000
have something like that, it you know, helps cushion their fall.

688
00:33:38,119 --> 00:33:40,920
Its kind of like a spring. It gets so far

689
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:42,640
in the things they go over there already on the

690
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,559
ground that you see these mainly in pine trees because

691
00:33:45,599 --> 00:33:48,519
they're flexible and these little Douglas furs and stuff like that.

692
00:33:48,599 --> 00:33:51,119
You'll see them, you know, arched over and you'll start

693
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:54,200
seeing that and a lot of the woods if you

694
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:57,480
start really walking through and paying attention real good, you'll

695
00:33:57,519 --> 00:34:00,920
see these things. These trees are just arched, perfect arches.

696
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:04,839
Well it's not from winterfall or snow the way to

697
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:08,000
the snow hanging out on them. It'll give that appearance.

698
00:34:08,039 --> 00:34:10,360
But then you've got all these other trees right around

699
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:14,039
it that aren't doing anything. So the more you start

700
00:34:14,119 --> 00:34:17,079
looking at that, I'm a wifely you know, started getting

701
00:34:17,119 --> 00:34:20,880
real good at noticing tree brakes and twist and man,

702
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,760
we've tried to simulate them with chain pons, chain ranges,

703
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:24,519
draft ranches.

704
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:28,360
Speaker 1: All right, well that's interesting. I got trees bowsed too,

705
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,239
But we're not gonna go off on that rabbit hole.

706
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:32,519
Let's see you got them.

707
00:34:34,639 --> 00:34:35,280
Speaker 2: I'm gonna come.

708
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep saying I don't. But but you know

709
00:34:39,039 --> 00:34:41,840
why I say that, because I live in North Mississippi

710
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:43,760
and we're just in the mud. We don't have any

711
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:47,079
rocks or you know, it's just all went all winder long.

712
00:34:47,159 --> 00:34:50,559
We're just in the mud. And I look, I've gotten where.

713
00:34:50,599 --> 00:34:52,880
I just kind of I'm not used to looking down

714
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,559
while I walk unless i'm looking where I'm stepping, but

715
00:34:55,559 --> 00:34:57,960
I've gotten where. I kind of I'll check down, you know,

716
00:34:58,159 --> 00:35:01,119
for thirty forty yards, and then I'll start looking at

717
00:35:01,159 --> 00:35:03,639
everything else. And I never I'm looking for a track.

718
00:35:03,639 --> 00:35:05,679
If I ever saw a track, I'd say, yep, yep,

719
00:35:05,679 --> 00:35:09,480
there here. But anyway, now you got how long. Let's

720
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,079
say you got into this in two thousand and eight,

721
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:13,159
is that.

722
00:35:13,159 --> 00:35:16,800
Speaker 2: Right, Well, that's that's when I had my first That's

723
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,280
when we had our first siding. Now, I mean I

724
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:23,599
got I got into it and started actively researching, you know,

725
00:35:23,679 --> 00:35:26,840
going out as a as a team, as a teammateer,

726
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:32,280
you know, part of an expedition team Tallway around two thousand,

727
00:35:32,639 --> 00:35:36,360
two thousand and one, and you know, of course I was.

728
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,320
I was on the computer NonStop. I was researching. And

729
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:41,719
actually there I live it. Now. You can look it

730
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:45,199
up on the database of the website you look at,

731
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:49,320
you know, the siding database as one you look for,

732
00:35:50,119 --> 00:35:53,480
it's going to be a I believe this is Mineola,

733
00:35:53,519 --> 00:35:56,360
Texas on it and actually a stone's throw from my

734
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,679
house now. And there's actually a lady that lives and

735
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:02,000
I know exactly where our house is. I mean, we

736
00:36:02,039 --> 00:36:05,119
went and did interview this lady and you can actually

737
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:08,800
see where hunt her children and there. They had a

738
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,400
German shepherd dog at the time. And they went back

739
00:36:11,559 --> 00:36:13,360
just right behind the house, and the husband was a

740
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:17,079
truck driver. She started having you know, hearing things and

741
00:36:17,079 --> 00:36:18,880
stuff like it. It was didn't think much of it.

742
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,000
But one day they went back to pick a bushel

743
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:24,199
of blackberries. The dog kept getting in front of her,

744
00:36:24,199 --> 00:36:26,960
trying to block her from getting to the BlackBerry bush.

745
00:36:27,039 --> 00:36:29,719
A huge bush man, it is huge. But this thing

746
00:36:30,159 --> 00:36:32,920
stood up from on the backside of it, and it

747
00:36:33,159 --> 00:36:35,639
towered above it and of course give them a good

748
00:36:35,679 --> 00:36:38,960
stare down. Of course the dog. They beat the dog

749
00:36:39,039 --> 00:36:45,239
to the house, you know. So uh, and you can

750
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:47,320
and you can look that one up. I mean, that

751
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:50,840
one's that's that's been verified and uh that's out. There's

752
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:54,400
another church family just out there behind the lake fork

753
00:36:54,599 --> 00:36:58,599
and uh, which is twenty miles probably from where that

754
00:36:58,679 --> 00:37:02,400
siding is. Uh family coming home from church. Notice the

755
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:05,880
one behind the spillway by the dam. And it's very

756
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:09,119
open there. I mean, you see one. You watch it

757
00:37:09,199 --> 00:37:11,480
run for hundreds of yards before it can get back

758
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:14,519
into the woods. And they watched it cross you know,

759
00:37:14,599 --> 00:37:17,320
Highway one eighty two or FM one eighty two, which

760
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,559
is behind runs behind the damn with like fort. You know,

761
00:37:19,559 --> 00:37:22,199
this is a family coming home from church. So uh,

762
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,119
let's just too starting to try to hear it. And

763
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:27,239
there's been several others that wasn't reported. You know a

764
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:30,280
lot of people were fraid of being ridiculed, and and

765
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:33,079
then you don't. I understand that better than anybody. I

766
00:37:33,199 --> 00:37:35,199
got family the ras the hell out of me over it.

767
00:37:35,599 --> 00:37:38,280
I tell them, well, you know, instead of ridicule, I

768
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:40,599
mean what you go out? Now you go out? I

769
00:37:40,599 --> 00:37:44,920
would okay, I see how that is. You share it

770
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:47,599
when we go see the truth, you know, And you

771
00:37:47,639 --> 00:37:50,760
can't guarantee you know, I can't. I'll take you out

772
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:53,400
and this is going to happen. I can just about

773
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:56,480
promise you'll hear tree notts and then calls if you

774
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:59,039
know what you're listening for. I can't about guarantee that

775
00:37:59,079 --> 00:38:01,360
I happened, But can I guarantee you one's going to

776
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:05,119
walk up into camp. We've had that happen, just everybody

777
00:38:05,119 --> 00:38:09,320
out doing everything and you hear something about pedal, you know,

778
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:11,840
about people coming up behind us in the woods, just

779
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:15,719
just just like you are coming up from from ben

780
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,559
out fishing, come walking back up into camp, and of

781
00:38:18,559 --> 00:38:21,400
course just stop shout out outside of camp. I mean,

782
00:38:21,679 --> 00:38:23,920
you know you're talking twenty thirty feeture just outside of

783
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:26,000
the glow of the fire and you hit the flaars

784
00:38:26,119 --> 00:38:28,719
unit out that way and you can see it standing

785
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:32,079
everybody as large as life, and then myself with a

786
00:38:32,119 --> 00:38:34,199
guy with a video. You know, you're trying to document,

787
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:38,079
document everything, I mean, every quire. I mean it requires

788
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,920
sec casular evident. I mean, it requires this, so we

789
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:44,079
get in after it. Me you know, you know, we

790
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:46,639
run in after it. I mean trying to get a shot,

791
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:47,920
get that money shot, you.

792
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 1: Know, right yep.

793
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,760
Speaker 2: And of course we've already with the group and everything.

794
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:54,719
Of course a lot that's us coffee, righted, So you know,

795
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:57,800
of course I can't think anything anybody. But you can

796
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:02,119
go MK Davis's website and you can see some of

797
00:39:02,159 --> 00:39:03,880
the video. I mean, we've got three of them in

798
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:07,440
one frame to them having a pushing match and a

799
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:09,840
bigger one shows up that just makes these things look

800
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,639
like look like nothing. I mean, this thing's huge and

801
00:39:12,679 --> 00:39:16,039
it's just pushing kid foot plus I mean, and you

802
00:39:16,079 --> 00:39:18,480
can see it. I mean, you know it's always burrier.

803
00:39:19,039 --> 00:39:22,239
What they don't know in these videos is you see

804
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:25,000
these you see these creatures, but it's not a direct

805
00:39:25,039 --> 00:39:28,760
shot of these creatures. What we did, what we did

806
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:32,119
to be able to capture these things because they're very

807
00:39:32,159 --> 00:39:34,440
camera smart. Like I said, these things are masters in

808
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:36,440
their environment. And you will hear this time and time

809
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:39,320
again if people put game cameras out and being messed with,

810
00:39:39,599 --> 00:39:44,840
turned torn up, disappear, you'll hear this time and time again.

811
00:39:45,519 --> 00:39:48,519
But we got them interested in mirrors. We set mirrors

812
00:39:48,599 --> 00:39:51,719
up against trees and we shoot the camera at the

813
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:56,480
mirror which would reflect show you the reflection back behind

814
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:59,280
behind them. So some of the shots are you know,

815
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,599
the little blo but you can still see what they are.

816
00:40:02,119 --> 00:40:04,079
You know. There's a couple of M. K. Davis uh

817
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:07,920
uh and these Texas uh you can you can see

818
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:11,199
you can go watching yourself and kind of look at them.

819
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:15,320
There's one that it's going into a garden, a garden

820
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:17,280
there in this right side of our friend's house. I

821
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:20,000
mean they go in and take corn. I'm not sure

822
00:40:20,039 --> 00:40:21,840
if he's got that one on there, but these steps

823
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:23,840
over the fence comes back out with a corn cob

824
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:26,320
in his mouth, and it's a it's a very small

825
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:31,119
one about fall real thin. You know, it didn't feel

826
00:40:31,119 --> 00:40:33,559
it out yet, I don't mean, but it looks like

827
00:40:33,599 --> 00:40:38,320
it's a a little small hairy man and it moves

828
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:40,400
a lot quicker, and it's got a long lady steps

829
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:42,440
right over that battle fire fence, like you know, the

830
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:44,559
steps over the mirror.

831
00:40:44,599 --> 00:40:46,039
Speaker 1: How big a mirror do you use?

832
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:48,880
Speaker 2: We use like the mirrors that you see on the

833
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:52,000
back of here, like little three or four dollar mirrors

834
00:40:52,039 --> 00:40:54,960
you buy like loads and that you get on a

835
00:40:55,119 --> 00:40:57,079
uh put on the back of your doors in the

836
00:40:57,119 --> 00:41:00,519
bedroom or something real fIF cheesy. They're about war foot

837
00:41:00,559 --> 00:41:02,920
by true foot, war foot by foot and a half

838
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:06,119
and with and you're just we pop them up against

839
00:41:06,119 --> 00:41:10,599
the trees in different angles, and of course shoot the camera.

840
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 1: At the mirror. You point the camera at the mirror.

841
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:17,039
Speaker 2: Yes, sir, And that gives you the reflection back behind

842
00:41:17,079 --> 00:41:18,519
you in any angle you want to watch.

843
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:22,280
Speaker 1: That is brilliant. Then that is a brilliant way to

844
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:24,880
do that. I have never thought of that anyway. Go ahead.

845
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:31,639
Speaker 2: When we started doing that, our our luck change change

846
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:34,719
for the better. I mean, we started getting we started

847
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:39,199
getting some crazy you know, just crazy video and it's like, wow,

848
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:41,280
that's all we had to do. It's like, you know,

849
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:43,760
and of course you have you want to come up there.

850
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:46,400
This is one big one. It come up and uh,

851
00:41:46,679 --> 00:41:49,599
it's seeing it's reflection in the tree on the mirror.

852
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:53,199
And of course the tree that it was showing it

853
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:56,960
thought there was another sasquatch. Evidently, so in atacts the tree,

854
00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:59,440
you know, and you fit in this tree as usually

855
00:42:00,079 --> 00:42:02,159
in this tree is an old pino is probably one

856
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:04,840
hundred years old. It's four foot diameter. If I put

857
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:08,079
it the face, this thing hits this tree, it sounds

858
00:42:08,119 --> 00:42:10,559
like a truck hitting the tree, I mean, and you

859
00:42:10,559 --> 00:42:13,559
can hear the upper branches rattle. Of course, mind you,

860
00:42:13,639 --> 00:42:15,760
this is in the middle of the night. You got

861
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:18,440
the ir glow from the art, you know, light on it.

862
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:22,239
So you never see anything that does some great you know,

863
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:25,719
you see some charcoal gray hair. Du and you hear

864
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,320
this thing grunting and stuff like you're trying to root

865
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:32,760
this tree, give it a dall. And had it been

866
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:36,639
a smaller tree, you know, two three foot, I believe

867
00:42:36,679 --> 00:42:38,239
it might have got it to lean a little bit.

868
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 1: But let me, I know, everybody listening is there. I

869
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:46,039
can already see the comments. Where are the pictures, Where

870
00:42:46,039 --> 00:42:48,320
are the videos? Where are the pictures where everybody wants

871
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:50,960
to see the pictures and videos? Do you have a

872
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:53,320
do you got does your group or do you have

873
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:56,400
a social media side or something?

874
00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:00,599
Speaker 2: A lot of that stuff is is coffee, right, and

875
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:04,280
they do not post a lot of it. However, one

876
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:08,480
of them members did release a couple of them to

877
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:11,239
go to M K. Davis, very well known. He tried

878
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:14,960
to and do some enhancements on it. You can actually

879
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:19,559
look look up into M. K. Davis Parish, Texas and

880
00:43:19,599 --> 00:43:21,559
he's got a couple of videos in there, and then

881
00:43:21,599 --> 00:43:24,679
two in which I told you you got one called

882
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:28,679
Whitey running. It's got there's a white one and it

883
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:33,159
gets taught by the reflection of the camba the camera

884
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:35,199
to the mirror. Like I'm telling you it wasn't twenty directly,

885
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:38,239
if you can see this thing running from the left

886
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:40,960
to right, it comes back behind the barn and it's

887
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:43,639
across a ditch and back behind their house. Can see

888
00:43:43,679 --> 00:43:46,800
this thing the blistering speed in which it can move

889
00:43:47,039 --> 00:43:51,000
at that size. First of all, jaw dropping, and of

890
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:55,800
course you still have the three that uh, the two

891
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,679
having a shoving match. There's a white one in black

892
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:01,679
one having a shoving match, and then this big one

893
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:04,960
comes into and right behind it there's a tool shack

894
00:44:05,639 --> 00:44:09,039
that the edge of the eve of it is at

895
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:13,320
seven foot and you can see this thing. A tower

896
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:16,559
is above that eve of that toolshack a foot and

897
00:44:16,559 --> 00:44:19,199
a half to two foot. So and uh, there's another

898
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:21,719
one that's down in the ditch. You think it's doing

899
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:23,440
something else. What it is it's a loaf of bread

900
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:25,719
that we had put out. And they're not big lovers

901
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:29,119
of bread. They love little Debbie snacks. Yeah, man, I'm

902
00:44:29,119 --> 00:44:31,679
telling you they level like the whole free much steer

903
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:36,159
of guards. Yeah. They We can find out if you

904
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:38,760
screw a bucket to the tree and cut the lid

905
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:41,320
in half top portion of it. I'm working on the

906
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:44,320
bottom of the raccoons and stuff can't get in there about

907
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:48,760
eight ft off the ground. So whole whole corns in there,

908
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:51,440
a little davy snack. You can follow. You can follow

909
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:53,800
the rappers today. We can put a loaf of bread

910
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:56,400
in there every now and then, a whole loaf of bread. Well,

911
00:44:56,760 --> 00:45:01,039
you see this video of this lof bread getting chunked

912
00:45:01,079 --> 00:45:03,400
into the creek basin. You know you know, a lot

913
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:05,480
of increase down there. They're dried up and some of

914
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:07,960
them have water, some of them don't. But you can

915
00:45:08,039 --> 00:45:11,480
see this level bred just get chunked and landing the

916
00:45:12,079 --> 00:45:14,559
to the creek bed. And then, uh, if you just

917
00:45:14,599 --> 00:45:16,800
follow these videos, all of them from Paris States down there,

918
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,360
you'll see you can see all of these and then

919
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:22,159
they're you know, they're free to view to the public,

920
00:45:22,199 --> 00:45:23,840
and you know, of course everybody. Of course, a lot

921
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:26,639
of them are low light low like additions. You'll see

922
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:30,239
a hunter go across and then you know, not but

923
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:32,480
a few minutes up there, you'll see this tomorrow black

924
00:45:32,519 --> 00:45:35,639
would just come running across the screen and it goes

925
00:45:35,679 --> 00:45:37,679
out of screen and comes back to the creek and

926
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:39,639
it comes up and you'll see one of these pine

927
00:45:39,679 --> 00:45:42,000
trees that I that I was talking about the boat

928
00:45:42,079 --> 00:45:44,960
over and you'll see this thing jump up, run over

929
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,360
the top of it, back down, back and behind the camera.

930
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:50,079
And he tells the younger one to just not really

931
00:45:50,079 --> 00:45:54,360
paying attention to it being videos, you know, So you

932
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:56,440
get on this website, you can definitely see if you

933
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:58,280
get into the MK Davis you can find a few of.

934
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:02,039
Speaker 1: Those, Okay, is he so we're real clear because people

935
00:46:02,039 --> 00:46:04,880
won't want to know is this his Facebook page or

936
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:06,440
does he have a YouTube channel?

937
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:09,039
Speaker 2: It's the YouTube channel you're go under. Just looking to

938
00:46:09,199 --> 00:46:12,760
m K Davis and look at m K Davis. Anything

939
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:17,079
to be putting Pais Testes and those videos should pop

940
00:46:17,199 --> 00:46:23,159
up and why he's run shoving match. They'll all be

941
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:26,199
right there kind of a sequence and this is one

942
00:46:26,199 --> 00:46:30,119
that he got permission from one of the landowners. He

943
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:32,559
got these. All these you gonna remember, all these are

944
00:46:32,559 --> 00:46:35,360
good on h s back of this time frame, and

945
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:37,400
then he converted you burn them on and he made

946
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:39,480
them a deal, say, won't put these on a disc

947
00:46:39,559 --> 00:46:41,559
for you, So he put them on a disc and

948
00:46:41,679 --> 00:46:43,840
uh and had some of the best he could. He

949
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:45,000
did a pretty good job.

950
00:46:45,599 --> 00:46:48,280
Speaker 1: I'll make sure and find that channel and I'll link

951
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:53,320
it in the description below, so everybody won't. I get

952
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:56,559
so many comments about no pictures, no proof. I ain't

953
00:46:56,559 --> 00:46:59,719
listening anymore. And so we found a place where there's

954
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:02,480
going to be some good pictures and videos. So I'll

955
00:47:03,159 --> 00:47:04,760
if I can find it, I'll put it in the

956
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:09,639
description below. Rodney. So where are y'all at now? Are

957
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:15,840
y'all still actively hunting bigfoots or I don't. I'm not

958
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:18,960
saying hunting to kill them, just hunting them down, trying

959
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:21,519
to find them, get get visuals and more evidence. So

960
00:47:21,599 --> 00:47:25,280
y'all still actively out there doing that, Yes, sir.

961
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:27,880
Speaker 2: That is something we do year round. Like I say,

962
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:32,480
there's more more time, there's times that they're more predictable.

963
00:47:32,679 --> 00:47:34,719
You know, there's certain dug we know for sure that

964
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:37,559
they're going to be in these certain areas moving through,

965
00:47:38,159 --> 00:47:41,239
whether it be down there and the Paris Parish area

966
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:44,760
or up in Oklahoma area. You know, and of course

967
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:47,920
we look back, there's been sightings up in Oklahoma wherever

968
00:47:48,119 --> 00:47:52,440
out of all Ocabo or tim Meechi's and the thing

969
00:47:52,519 --> 00:47:58,000
we've been challenged with in the very recent we we

970
00:47:58,199 --> 00:48:00,679
played a couple of yearly expeditions. You know, what we

971
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:03,599
get is a big team in itself. I mean, we

972
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:06,719
try to get everybody that's part of us to go.

973
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:08,880
You know, we always have big plans and a lot

974
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:10,719
of times only half the people show up. But we

975
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:13,480
always have a great time, great great group of guys

976
00:48:13,519 --> 00:48:16,000
and gals and for the most part, you got you know,

977
00:48:16,079 --> 00:48:20,159
the youngsters and stuff like that. We keep them reeled

978
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:23,280
in you know, and there in these times because we

979
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:28,960
recently noticed that we've been challenged by a different a

980
00:48:29,079 --> 00:48:32,719
different species of these things than what we know your

981
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:37,039
southern big foot type two patty top big foot. Okay, uh,

982
00:48:37,119 --> 00:48:39,760
this is where we start getting into what you hear

983
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:42,199
more and more of every day, these wear wolf top things,

984
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:46,320
the dog men. We've taken some pictures and come up

985
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:49,519
with a couple of these doll men. But this other thing,

986
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:52,119
we have no clue what the hell it is. All

987
00:48:52,199 --> 00:48:57,519
we know is that it's extremely it's extremely violent and aggressive,

988
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:02,440
extremely and kind of feel and fear is that these

989
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:06,519
things have kind of pushed our normal tighten it refoot families,

990
00:49:07,079 --> 00:49:09,719
kind of pushed them either up further in the time

991
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:13,119
she's or elsewhere. You know, I've got a friend and

992
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:16,360
I actually I've got him listening to your channel. Now.

993
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:20,239
He's very he's a very avid, disapprifted listener. Now he

994
00:49:20,639 --> 00:49:23,280
listened to you every night. He actually writes his own

995
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:25,960
he writes the book and in relation to and I

996
00:49:26,079 --> 00:49:28,360
know he I know he plans on getting in touch

997
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:31,119
with you, but I know he had the first week

998
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:35,039
experience of one of these things was he almost got

999
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:37,960
taken down by a couple of these things. They were

1000
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:40,639
had it not been for his significant others sitting in

1001
00:49:40,679 --> 00:49:44,440
the vehicle, you know, fifty sixty yards away that could

1002
00:49:44,519 --> 00:49:47,760
see the line side she had she could see these

1003
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:51,079
two things. One was coming toward him and the other

1004
00:49:51,119 --> 00:49:53,239
one was flanking and coming around. But they were on

1005
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:56,280
four us. He knew, he knew that one was there,

1006
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:59,599
and he was backing out towards the shoreline, saying, you know, hey,

1007
00:50:00,159 --> 00:50:01,599
I'm gonna make it down here. I'm going in the

1008
00:50:01,679 --> 00:50:05,440
water and missus February two years ago. You know, I

1009
00:50:05,519 --> 00:50:08,039
think it back at four years ago. He was spared

1010
00:50:08,119 --> 00:50:10,360
for his life. You know. Uh, there was a couple

1011
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:13,559
of straight dogs down there, and straight dogs kind of

1012
00:50:13,639 --> 00:50:17,320
let him know that something wasn't right. And then that's

1013
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:20,000
when he caught a glimpse of the one on fours.

1014
00:50:20,079 --> 00:50:22,400
It was on fours and it was moving the high grass.

1015
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:24,599
Of course, there was you know, there's a lot of

1016
00:50:25,119 --> 00:50:27,519
a lot of heavy brush and stuff through there, but

1017
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:29,880
every once the way to catch the top of the

1018
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:33,480
head as it was moving. Of course, the significant other

1019
00:50:33,599 --> 00:50:36,000
was yelling at him, he there's another one that's coming

1020
00:50:36,079 --> 00:50:39,000
around your other side, and had it got around. If

1021
00:50:39,079 --> 00:50:41,199
he wouldn't have got on the shore line and started

1022
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:44,239
beelining it back to the vehicle, he might not have

1023
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:46,559
made it out of there, because they had every intention

1024
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:49,000
and he even felt it. Instead of to sell that

1025
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:51,840
they had every intention of killing me, say, I have

1026
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:55,400
no doubt I felt it. I know they were coming

1027
00:50:55,519 --> 00:50:58,760
for me, he says. I think it's because I got

1028
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:00,880
and she is already cranking the truck up all the

1029
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:03,639
time he got to it, and they were peeling out

1030
00:51:03,679 --> 00:51:05,559
of there, the dogs, he said, the dogs, there's a

1031
00:51:05,639 --> 00:51:08,760
car taking there's no boat ramp. The two dogs went

1032
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:11,880
under the covert and went he said, he washed them

1033
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:13,920
as they you know, they beat him to the truck,

1034
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:15,400
and they got up for the cover and went up

1035
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:17,639
for a pretty good way to reach there and get them.

1036
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:20,920
But he said, they got in that truck and haul

1037
00:51:21,039 --> 00:51:24,039
guns out of there. In that same area, my son

1038
00:51:24,119 --> 00:51:27,119
and I and one of his friends, part of this group. Now,

1039
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:30,320
we went down to the same areas you know, we've

1040
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:32,880
been going through for years and years. And as soon

1041
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:35,119
as we got there and I shut the decklid of

1042
00:51:35,199 --> 00:51:39,159
the car, I heard a very loud loud singletone call

1043
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:42,320
come from the right down the shoreline, as I would

1044
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:45,400
call it, in the thicket area probout twenty yards off

1045
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:48,360
the bank of his lage. We started walking in, of

1046
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:51,079
course when I took them in. So we're gonna walk

1047
00:51:51,119 --> 00:51:52,960
the shoreline. We're not gonna cut through the woods. We're

1048
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:55,480
gonna walk the shoreline the whole way. So we went

1049
00:51:55,559 --> 00:51:59,599
in there about seventy five hundred yards and then started

1050
00:51:59,639 --> 00:52:03,679
hearing something big coming and moving through. Sounded like a

1051
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:06,119
big horse and man on horseback coming through the thicket.

1052
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:11,000
And it came. You know, just the area covered such

1053
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:13,760
a short amount of time, wasn't wasn't any doubt of

1054
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:16,559
what it was. And then you could hear something else

1055
00:52:17,039 --> 00:52:20,960
to the east of it, running and coming from another direction.

1056
00:52:21,119 --> 00:52:23,559
I said, okay, guys, my son he knew kind of

1057
00:52:23,599 --> 00:52:26,599
what was up, but he hadn't even dealt with one

1058
00:52:26,679 --> 00:52:30,679
of these. I didn't want my first my first experience

1059
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:34,400
is wanted to be be that negative either. I said, y'all,

1060
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:37,519
stall on my hills, don't stop, don't turn around. We

1061
00:52:37,679 --> 00:52:39,559
walked out of there, and of course you could hear

1062
00:52:39,639 --> 00:52:41,639
these things and they were coming because we had a

1063
00:52:41,679 --> 00:52:44,400
pretty good jump on them, and you know what you

1064
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:46,639
and I have to walk through or around. They just

1065
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:49,519
move over like you know, three or four inch saffling.

1066
00:52:49,599 --> 00:52:52,000
They don't have to. They just go over. They don't

1067
00:52:52,039 --> 00:52:55,559
have to. They sweep their arms across the clear path

1068
00:52:55,639 --> 00:52:57,880
as they're going through, and you can see, you see

1069
00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:00,920
the stuff moving top high like is knocking the streams

1070
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:02,639
out of the way. So we got to the car.

1071
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:04,840
We bolted. Man, we got out of there. And what

1072
00:53:05,079 --> 00:53:06,880
I called my colleague and I told him, I said, man,

1073
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:10,559
they're still there. I said, uh, yeah, I was afraid

1074
00:53:10,599 --> 00:53:13,440
of that, you know. And ever since then, these things,

1075
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:16,519
it seems like they've pushed our you know what I

1076
00:53:16,679 --> 00:53:19,800
call our our friends and ones we've been dealing with

1077
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:23,559
for years and years. I pushed him out or something.

1078
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:25,440
I don't know what's going on there. I really, I

1079
00:53:25,559 --> 00:53:29,480
really can't answer that. But advice bothersome to know that,

1080
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:31,280
you know, we don't. We're not getting to deal with

1081
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:35,480
the same thing. You know where our most active places

1082
00:53:35,599 --> 00:53:38,440
up there in Oklahoma. Uh And we got the same

1083
00:53:38,519 --> 00:53:42,159
thing going on, but much bigger, much bigger in size,

1084
00:53:43,079 --> 00:53:46,880
and much more in uh in attitude.

1085
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 1: You know, do you have any theory? Do you have

1086
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:51,239
any theories on what's what's happening.

1087
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:55,440
Speaker 2: Well, I think personally, you know, some of the other

1088
00:53:55,519 --> 00:53:58,320
guys can do agree. I mean, whether it be from

1089
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:00,760
you know, I think we talked about is whether it

1090
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:04,679
be from a rogue or inbreeding or a shallow gene pool.

1091
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:08,440
You know, these things are forced to mate or sometimes

1092
00:54:08,519 --> 00:54:11,880
they make gets their wheel and you know, I think

1093
00:54:12,199 --> 00:54:14,599
the bad traumas on here or there or something and

1094
00:54:14,679 --> 00:54:17,960
then you get a different different species. But well, we've

1095
00:54:18,079 --> 00:54:19,920
noticed that these have a little bit more of a

1096
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:23,760
of a smeut on them, which which will Uh you know,

1097
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:26,519
these people talk about werewolves. I've seen the werewolf. Wells,

1098
00:54:26,639 --> 00:54:30,039
I think this is exactly what they're seeing. Minusty minus

1099
00:54:30,519 --> 00:54:33,679
is I don't you know, I haven't seen years on

1100
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:37,519
these particular ones, like the dog Man. You can clearly

1101
00:54:37,639 --> 00:54:41,519
fee a muzzle their eyes in a couple of years. Uh,

1102
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:43,360
you know, go up and do alert of these I

1103
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:46,239
have not seen. It looks just like the stu'squatch. A

1104
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:50,599
massive head sitting on top of the shoulders, massive set

1105
00:54:50,599 --> 00:54:53,440
of shoulders from what we get from the waist down

1106
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:57,039
almost with human you know, it don't have the It's

1107
00:54:57,079 --> 00:54:59,920
just like a person. It's just it's kind of crazy.

1108
00:55:00,079 --> 00:55:03,920
But of course it's very mustard and everything. And I

1109
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:06,719
haven't really seen any years on it, like like we

1110
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:10,599
have one some of the photos that like Scott Cartmenter,

1111
00:55:10,679 --> 00:55:13,480
you know, he's got some pretty good features. Scott Comber's

1112
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:16,079
got some good steel pictures of the of the dog

1113
00:55:16,199 --> 00:55:18,039
men and stuff like that, you know, from the go

1114
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:21,079
pro when I was back take, so you know, and

1115
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:23,039
go back and look at that stuff. But you know,

1116
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:26,159
this is this is something we're having to go learning

1117
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:29,400
curve for us because we really don't know what expected,

1118
00:55:30,599 --> 00:55:33,800
you know, besides aggression, and right now that you know,

1119
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:36,599
that's all that really showed it is aggression. We haven't

1120
00:55:36,639 --> 00:55:40,880
seen any type of i'd say friendly communication like from

1121
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:45,800
other sides, questionably, you know, the leading gifts and stuff

1122
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:49,159
like that. Just a whole different, whole different creature, you know.

1123
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:51,840
And as I find out more and more, I would

1124
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:53,880
definitely be in touch with you, let you keep you

1125
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:58,760
updated on on what we find out. You know what

1126
00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:01,840
our result is, you know what our plan is.

1127
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:05,519
Speaker 1: That would be great, That would that would be fantastic.

1128
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:09,960
I'm so interested in this that hell, I may start

1129
00:56:10,039 --> 00:56:12,599
calling you every couple of weeks and hey, what's going on?

1130
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:16,239
But now he just feel free to do that. Well,

1131
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:18,039
I don't want to bug you. I hate bugging people,

1132
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:21,960
but I might. I might send you a text or

1133
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:25,000
something and see what's going on. That's fascinating. Well, listen,

1134
00:56:25,079 --> 00:56:27,800
we're at we're at a minute seven or an hour

1135
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:30,920
seven minute. Some people say they could listen for two hours,

1136
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:33,800
but you know, YouTube creators, we have to look at

1137
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:36,159
our analytics and what happens is on when they go

1138
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:40,440
over an hour, your retention time drops way off. And

1139
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:43,960
what that means is people start dropping off halfway through

1140
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:47,639
the video. And but will you come back when I

1141
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:51,199
know you have a ton of more stories and events?

1142
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:55,519
Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely absolutely, I'll We've got a few other things

1143
00:56:55,559 --> 00:56:58,960
to jell us, you know, just we'll get into it

1144
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:03,559
at another time and hopefully I'll have some better things

1145
00:57:03,559 --> 00:57:06,920
to update you with. I mean, uh, may go. You know,

1146
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:10,440
of course, scientifically is true, without a shadow of a doubt,

1147
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:13,960
there is one and uh uh, you know, we realize

1148
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:16,519
that you have to produce a body to do that.

1149
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:19,000
I'm not saying we're out we just want to go

1150
00:57:19,159 --> 00:57:21,519
kill one or anything like that. That's not what we're about.

1151
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:25,440
But to the scientific community, and you know, be honest

1152
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:28,000
with you, I don't know if you presented the body

1153
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:30,239
you you know, it'd be hard to get messed to

1154
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:33,000
scrutiny of that too, because I can't believe you get that.

1155
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:35,519
Uh you know, do you believe you kill one?

1156
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:38,159
Speaker 1: You know, according to some people, there's spend several of

1157
00:57:38,199 --> 00:57:43,800
them killed, and which would make you wonder if people

1158
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:47,559
in the scientific community have not seen these things and

1159
00:57:47,719 --> 00:57:51,760
examine them. And there's some I'm not a conspiracy theorist,

1160
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:55,639
but usually there's a reason, you know, these things are

1161
00:57:55,719 --> 00:57:58,480
kept quiet. I'm not saying I agree or disagree with it,

1162
00:57:58,599 --> 00:58:00,679
but there's a lot of people out they're saying they're

1163
00:58:00,719 --> 00:58:03,639
killing them because their nuisance. They're nuisance, or they're a

1164
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:04,159
threat to.

1165
00:58:04,199 --> 00:58:06,760
Speaker 2: Their family in our livelihood.

1166
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:10,440
Speaker 1: And I know, any any man with a firearm, if

1167
00:58:10,679 --> 00:58:13,800
some kind of animals, you know, rampaging at you, or

1168
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:17,119
you're gonna shoot it, and yeah, eat it. If you

1169
00:58:17,239 --> 00:58:19,440
don't think you're gonna make it out, you're gonna start

1170
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:20,960
shooting it. You're gonna put the herd on it.

1171
00:58:21,079 --> 00:58:21,480
Speaker 2: Anyway.

1172
00:58:21,599 --> 00:58:25,159
Speaker 1: But well, listen, Rodney, thank you so much, and you

1173
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:28,719
I really really would love to talk to you again,

1174
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:31,599
and and and I'm sorry it took so long to

1175
00:58:31,679 --> 00:58:35,400
get together on this, but this was fascinating. You're you've

1176
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got that well. I don't know how to say it.

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It's like if I met you at the at the

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at the restaurant in the morning at breakfast and we

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started talking, we probably sit there for three hours just

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shooting the bull.

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Speaker 2: And oh yeah, they get the game. Here's you go.

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Speaker 1: So thank you very much. Is there any parting words

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or anything you'd like to say before we sign off?

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Speaker 2: Well, man, I'm just you know, I really appreciate and

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respect what you do. You know, I think you do

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a lot more for the big community and what you

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give yourself credit for. I think by you standing up

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and doing what you do, you know, you surpass a

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lot of people, even though you haven't had your own

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personal experience. I believe you may. I believe you may

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be a lot closer than what you think in your

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good time. And I think one will re really itself

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or something. But I appreciate you, and I know, as

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I said, I told you this before, you know the

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then I was listening here every morning on the way

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in and uh, we really we just really really respect

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what you do. And so for everybody I've told you

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to told them about you and they really enjoy as well.

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So just keep on doing what you do.

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Speaker 1: That's nice to you to say that, thank you. I

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never dreamed anybody I would want to listen to me,

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But it's just, you know, and I just started this

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thing just as kind of a fun thing, and it's

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gotten It hasn't gotten more serious for me. It's just

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it's taken me down a rabbit hole of caruriosity. That's

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that's crazy. And I've had some things go on, but

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what I try to do is I've had a couple

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of a couple of things that I've never talked about,

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and because I don't want to make this channel about me,

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I want to make it about the topic and the story.

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And that's because that's what's important to me. The minute

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person hosting a channel makes it about them, it just

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to me, it just gets boring. But that's just me,

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So I try to avoid that. Maybe some doubt and

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they're just anecdotal kind of things or no in your

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face type of things. But I appreciate you saying all that,

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and I'm glad you're thank you for recommending the channel

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to your friends who are interested in the channel. It

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means a lot to me that people who are in

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the in the world of Bigfoot approve of what I'm doing.

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And I take a lot of crap from some people,

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but for the most part, people are real nice about it,

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and they understand my position. They know where I'm at

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and I'm not, you know, I'm just I don't claim

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to know anything. I don't know anything. I don't know nothing.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 1: All right, man, let's wind this up. I'll have this

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video up probably in uh I don't know, maybe a

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couple of days, and I'll send you a text when

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it's up. But Rodney, thank you very much for spending

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time with us. We all appreciate it. Not a problem, son, Jody,

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all right, talk to you soon. Brother, Yes, sir By Bye.