Speaker 1: So like a board meeting, like a board meeting.
Speaker 2: Exactly. All right, well, I guess we normally go on
Speaker 2: the table say what do we get done this week?
Speaker 3: Sure, we saw with you, so actually a lot of
Speaker 3: great work in the treasury this week. One of the
Speaker 3: crazy things with regards to the Treasury is that when
Speaker 3: a payment is made, and the computers at the Treasury
Speaker 3: actually paid about five trillion dollars per year, like crazy amounts.
Speaker 3: There was formerly not a budget code on there, so
Speaker 3: if not a payment was made, you didn't know actually
Speaker 3: what it was for.
Speaker 1: It could have been for anything.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there was a four billion dollars COVID fund in
Speaker 3: the Department of Education and there was no receipts required,
Speaker 3: so people we just drawed down on it. And when
Speaker 3: people looked into it, this wasn't justice was before us.
Speaker 3: They found that money was being used to rent out
Speaker 3: Caesar's Palace for parties, rent out stadiums, et cetera. And
Speaker 3: so the one change that DOGE made with our education
Speaker 3: is we had the simple requirement that if you draw
Speaker 3: down money, you must first upload a receipt. That was
Speaker 3: the only change that was made. You must upload your
Speaker 3: receipt and upon doing so. Yes, nobody drew down any
Speaker 3: money anymore.
Speaker 2: Yes, but we didn't say that we'd check the receipt.
Speaker 2: You could send a bank receipt, you could send a
Speaker 2: picture of your.
Speaker 1: Dog, anything, anything, anything.
Speaker 2: But as soon as we asked for anything at all,
Speaker 2: that something, the requests.
Speaker 1: Were like, oh, we don't need it anymore. Oh that's interesting.
Speaker 1: They were renting Caesar's palace.
Speaker 2: Yes, they were like basically partying on the text tayer
Speaker 2: of money.
Speaker 1: Stadiums, Yes, leasing.
Speaker 2: Stadium mssing stadiums for what for parties? Basically for parties.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's a big parties, big party.
Speaker 4: You'd think if you were stealing, you'd start small.
Speaker 2: They do stop small, But then what happens is over
Speaker 2: the years. So generally the fraud starts out small and
Speaker 2: they try to hide it. But then year after year,
Speaker 2: if nobody stops the fraud, it gets more and more brazen,
Speaker 2: and every year it gets bigger until they're literally renting
Speaker 2: out stadiums like.
Speaker 1: Millions to run out of the stadium. Fraud infragrante delecto. Okay,
Speaker 1: we're talking about at scale.
Speaker 4: This is driving me crazy. When you find these things,
Speaker 4: do you guys get mad? And you're like, yes, I
Speaker 4: got one.
Speaker 1: How does it?
Speaker 4: How does it make you feel so common?
Speaker 1: I mean you just get numb it. Unfortunately, like the
Speaker 1: hundredth time you've heard it, you're just tald not to.
Speaker 2: Get a little numb, you know, like and by the
Speaker 2: two hundred time, you're like, well, okay, it's just another
Speaker 2: day at the office.
Speaker 5: We checked, is the Small Business Administration giving loans to
Speaker 5: dead people?
Speaker 6: People over the age of one hundred and twenty.
Speaker 5: The answer was yes, and it was around three hundred
Speaker 5: thirty million dollars in total.
Speaker 2: So people with a birthday that could not possibly be real,
Speaker 2: meaning they're they're over one hundred there one hundred and
Speaker 2: fifteen years old or older.
Speaker 1: The oldest living Americans one hundred and fourteen.
Speaker 2: So the safe to save anybody is in the system
Speaker 2: as one hundred and fifteen years or older.
Speaker 1: That is fake.
Speaker 7: So just by sharing a database and looking at social
Speaker 7: Security numbers that showed that at the time of the
Speaker 7: loan they had listed at over one hundred and fifteen
Speaker 7: years old were actually under eleven. We didn't even check
Speaker 7: that for under eighteen. Maybe under eleven years old.
Speaker 1: That's pretty great, baby had people were getting loans that was.
Speaker 6: Six hundred and sixty million dollars.
Speaker 1: And also people with birth dates in the future. What
Speaker 1: does that mean? Well, in one I mean I think
Speaker 1: like the birthday, birthday.
Speaker 8: I think in one case was like fetuses, we're getting
Speaker 8: well not even really is sort of a you're talking
Speaker 8: about like your great grandchildren. Like with the birth date,
Speaker 8: I think like twenty one sixty five, so more than
Speaker 8: essentially from now, where's the birthday? George Jetson was getting aid, Yes,
Speaker 8: because your birthday is in the future, like the far
Speaker 8: like the far future, not like next year.
Speaker 1: And we either this is either fraudulent or we have
Speaker 1: your birthday.
Speaker 4: Wrong, either a typo or someone stealing.
Speaker 1: Which is it? Right? Yes, you should at least ask
Speaker 1: which is it?
Speaker 4: Do you guys feel you're getting justice and accountability?
Speaker 9: What are the extreme examples of non accountability?
Speaker 6: In some cases is has a credit as some of
Speaker 6: the small agencies. I think the Inter American Foundation IF.
Speaker 9: Is one of the agencies to be visited where you
Speaker 9: know they get fifty million dollars a year congressional money
Speaker 9: to give grants. These are things like you know Apaca
Speaker 9: farming and.
Speaker 6: Threw improving them.
Speaker 1: That's a real example, that's.
Speaker 9: The real description improving the marketability of p in Guatemala
Speaker 9: really fruit jam and yes, what yeah, So you might expect,
Speaker 9: you know, in the private sectory nonprofit to give you know,
Speaker 9: eighty to ninety percent of their money to grantees. In
Speaker 9: the case of IAF that was fifty eight percent. So
Speaker 9: the other half goes towards management, oh.
Speaker 1: Travel, what would you find exactly? I mean too, an
Speaker 1: example is is that even if you agreed with with.
Speaker 2: Supporting our pack up armas in Peru, well, actually most
Speaker 2: of the money never made it out of DC. It's
Speaker 2: going into the pockets people in the neighborhood.
Speaker 1: What percent to Peru? Right?
Speaker 4: So what percentage do you think doesn't even get to
Speaker 4: the destination it's supposed to.
Speaker 2: I believe the GAO estimates. This is not our estimate.
Speaker 2: I believe it was on the order of only ten
Speaker 2: to fifteen cents on the dollar actually gets to the
Speaker 2: end recipient. Whether you agree with that, calls are not.
Speaker 4: So they're just stealing the money before it even gets anywhere.
Speaker 1: There's layers of stealing.
Speaker 2: So this's like there's the first layer of stealing, second
Speaker 2: layer of stealing, third layer of stealing subcontractors the exactly
Speaker 2: contract or subcontractor subcontractors like feeling an onion and then
Speaker 2: maybe and sometimes it's zero.
Speaker 1: Just you get to the bottom of the onion, there's
Speaker 1: nothing there.
Speaker 4: So maybe no one got a sex change in Guatemala.
Speaker 2: It's possible that no one got a sex change of Gluatemala.
Speaker 10: I overheard a contractor tell one of her colleagues to
Speaker 10: falsify billable hours by creating a power point to mask
Speaker 10: and delay in the onboarding process in front of me.
Speaker 10: And this is like hour zero at this agency. And
Speaker 10: so I mean, this is just a common theme that
Speaker 10: you take a look at these contracts, you take a
Speaker 10: look at these grants and is veiled in noble rhetoric.
Speaker 10: You know, it's at the top level. It's like, sounds good, Yeah,
Speaker 10: it sounds amazing. And then you actually just follow what
Speaker 10: is the what are the funds actually doing?
Speaker 1: Or send us a picture exactly, and the sent us
Speaker 1: a picture.
Speaker 2: Request is incredibly good, like pixel it didn't happen, And
Speaker 2: and they're like, and it wouldn't be that hard to
Speaker 2: just frankly, they could sto just for some fake picks
Speaker 2: on the internet, or get AI to generate the picks.
Speaker 1: But they don't even bother doing that. So you caught
Speaker 1: them cold billing fraud.
Speaker 10: I caught them her advising or colleague to do this
Speaker 10: because it takes a few days to onboard.
Speaker 1: So that is being investigated right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean generally, like like these programs, these grounds
Speaker 2: are going to be like along lines of save the
Speaker 2: baby pandas and it's like, well, of course, who wouldn't
Speaker 2: want to save the baby pandas? And and you know,
Speaker 2: in some cases they've got a show panda, which they
Speaker 2: will they will try it out for special occasions. In
Speaker 2: a lot of cases they don't even have a show panda. No,
Speaker 2: there's not even one panda. Because we asked for pictures
Speaker 2: and we don't even get one panda. And he's like,
Speaker 2: well you got to well that's a lot.
Speaker 1: You know, what's the what's what's the billion dollars get you?
Speaker 1: Does not even get you one pandam? You really want
Speaker 1: to see a baby pandam? Yeah, Well, like you know,
Speaker 1: like be a ball of money. We're like, okay, well
Speaker 1: we agree with like we shouldn't have a bola. You know,
Speaker 1: where is the money going?
Speaker 2: Oh, it's going to Deloitte and DC, Like, what is
Speaker 2: an accounting for him doing with the Bola money?
Speaker 1: What has been the biggest resistance? Is there one agency?
Speaker 4: Is there one department that when you guys walk in,
Speaker 4: they all start fighting, you start hiding.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, but I guess you can answer that question. Sure,
Speaker 2: I mean, let's let's yes, we've certainly had some battles. Battles, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean you should talk about you.
Speaker 11: Said, oh yeah, okay, the small agency called the United
Speaker 11: States Institute of Peace. It's definitely the agency we had
Speaker 11: the most fight out. We actually went into the agency
Speaker 11: and found they had loaded guns inside of their headquarters.
Speaker 6: And so two for peace.
Speaker 2: I mean, any given company, any given organizational name, is
Speaker 2: going to be going to be the opposite of the title,
Speaker 2: right yeah.
Speaker 11: Yeah, so it was by far the least peaceful agency
Speaker 11: that we've worked with.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Ironically, of course.
Speaker 11: Additionally, we found that they were spending money on things
Speaker 11: like private jets, and they even had a one hundred
Speaker 11: and thirty thousand dollars contract with a former member of
Speaker 11: the Taliban. This is real.
Speaker 6: We don't encounter that at most agencies.
Speaker 4: Yeah, what was the money going to the Taliban for
Speaker 4: so it was a contractor.
Speaker 11: They received one hundred and thirty thousand dollars for generic services.
Speaker 11: And to Elon's point, there was not actually a clear
Speaker 11: description of what the contractor services were for. But was
Speaker 11: it for opium unclear?
Speaker 6: Or weapons or nothing or nothing or a broade or yeah.
Speaker 11: And you n actually have to ask the question how
Speaker 11: did we get here? Like when the country was founded,
Speaker 11: there were only four agencies. Today there are over four hundred,
Speaker 11: so there's been a one hundred xcit increase in the
Speaker 11: number of agencies since the foundering of the nation. And
Speaker 11: thanks to President Trump, he's now signed two executive orders
Speaker 11: to start to reduce the number of agencies in the government,
Speaker 11: and the institute Apiece was one of them, which is
Speaker 11: why our team went in to try and understand what
Speaker 11: was going on, and that's when we found all the craziness,
Speaker 11: like the weapons and their armory. We found the payments
Speaker 11: to the Taliban.
Speaker 1: The account Oh yeah, that so try to hide.
Speaker 11: The evidence, right, So just a few hours after we
Speaker 11: got into their headquarters, we found that their chief accountant
Speaker 11: had actually deleted over a terabyte of accounting records from
Speaker 11: several leaders. So you'd have to ask the question, well,
Speaker 11: why would somebody do that? If the Doch team fortunately
Speaker 11: was able to recover that data with the help of
Speaker 11: a few great employees at the Institute apiece. And I
Speaker 11: think the most troubling thing was they received fifty five
Speaker 11: million dollars a year from Congress, and any money that
Speaker 11: went unspent, instead of returning that to Congress, they would
Speaker 11: sweep it into a private bank account which had no
Speaker 11: Congressional oversight, and that's what they would use to fund
Speaker 11: things like events at their headquarters and the private jets.
Speaker 11: And so I think it's a great example because most
Speaker 11: most Americans don't know what's going on at a lot
Speaker 11: of these smaller agencies, and this is a I think
Speaker 11: the most extreme case of some of the.
Speaker 6: Wasteful spend that we're finding.
Speaker 4: So the agencies are hiding money from you, they're sending
Speaker 4: into the Taliban, they have loaded weapons in the department.
Speaker 6: Buildings at the Institute of Peace.
Speaker 4: At the Institute of Peace, that's right, So this is
Speaker 4: a cover up.
Speaker 2: When you guys roll in this one cover up, they
Speaker 2: delete a vast amount of financial information. That's really a
Speaker 2: definition of a cover up.
Speaker 4: Isn't that illegal to delete evidence? Yes, spread documents.
Speaker 6: It is.
Speaker 11: It's certainly illegal to delete accounting records that that Congress
Speaker 11: would certainly want to know where the congressionally appropriated funds
Speaker 11: are going from taxpayers when you.
Speaker 4: Catch them going Hillary style on their computers, do you
Speaker 4: refer this to the Department of Justice?
Speaker 11: In this case, we did refer the evidence in the
Speaker 11: accounting example to the FBI and DJ We're proud to
Speaker 11: do that, so, yes, we did.
Speaker 12: Resistance has shown up in some very surprising places. So
Speaker 12: for example, the famous fork in the Road email, the
Speaker 12: deferred resignation program. So this was a program where you
Speaker 12: could resign from the government, collect paying benefits for the
Speaker 12: next eight months, probably the most attractive separation program ever
Speaker 12: in human history. And the resistance actually came from the
Speaker 12: outside with people saying this is a trick, and I've
Speaker 12: heard somebody refer to it as an apple with a
Speaker 12: razor blade, and no, this was just a.
Speaker 1: Really juicy apple, caramel dipped apple. It was that good.
Speaker 6: But people were talked out of taking it.
Speaker 5: And now what started to happen is we did it,
Speaker 5: about eighty thousand people take it, and now those folks
Speaker 5: who didn't take it are on the beach, or they've
Speaker 5: moved on to a new job and they're still getting paid.
Speaker 5: And so now we're starting to offer fork two and
Speaker 5: fork three where people can see that someone's eating this
Speaker 5: apple and it was actually really tasty and good for them.
Speaker 4: Is those just getting started. This is a long term enterprise.
Speaker 2: It's a long time enterprise because if we take our
Speaker 2: eye off the ball, the waist and fraud will come
Speaker 2: roaring back.
Speaker 4: They can doze, doze when Democrats get back in power.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well.
Speaker 2: I think some of the things that like, we're trying
Speaker 2: to have it be such that the funny is removed,
Speaker 2: so the grants are gone.
Speaker 1: So there's that there's a lot of work
Speaker 2: Required to restart the waste of fraud and that