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Speaker 4: So today we're continuing our little Winter series, and this
Speaker 4: one is interesting and it gets biblical in aspect, but
Speaker 4: there's there's some medical and psychological stuff in yours. Well,
Speaker 4: So today we're going to be talking about the watcher
Speaker 4: angels of winter and what the actual watchers are, what
Speaker 4: they were supposed to do, and what happens during the
Speaker 4: winter months.
Speaker 1: You have one job, gee, I had one job. I
Speaker 1: have a lot of Okay, they blew it.
Speaker 4: Well, they did blow it. They blew it in a
Speaker 4: big way. So spiritual warfare and the winter is a
Speaker 4: real thing because that is when the veil thins and whatever.
Speaker 5: We're going to.
Speaker 4: Get into a little bit deeper later on in the show.
Speaker 4: But winter months, like we talked about the last time,
Speaker 4: amplify contact with what do you want to call it,
Speaker 4: the spiritual realm, the outer realm, the unknown realm, who
Speaker 4: knows what you want to call it. Because the nights
Speaker 4: are longer, like we talked about, your circadian rhythm is off.
Speaker 4: People get seasonal depression in the winter because you're not
Speaker 4: getting sunshine and you know all of those things. You
Speaker 4: get heightened dream states and more like realistic visions or
Speaker 4: vivid dreaming and things like that, and that's when sleep
Speaker 4: paralysis encounters definitely drastically go up in the winter months.
Speaker 4: And so, like we talked about last time, angelic visitations
Speaker 4: and dark watchers, shadow figures, all of those kind of
Speaker 4: things kind of play a part in it. So the
Speaker 4: question is are people really encountering entities or are they
Speaker 4: sliding into a imbalance that's that's biochemical in nature.
Speaker 1: Or is it both?
Speaker 4: Because your months do mess with all of your stuff,
Speaker 4: your cortisol and your d MT, like we talked about
Speaker 4: last time, and all the things right, and the serotonin
Speaker 4: and and all of that stuff, and so it is
Speaker 4: it both? Do you think it's possible to be both
Speaker 4: or do you think it's one more so than the other?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: Boy, so I do think that if your veil has
Speaker 1: been thinned, whether it be weather or other things such
Speaker 1: as temple ceremony, no others ceremonies too, we won't just
Speaker 1: pick on them all. Right, Look, there are definitely things
Speaker 1: that in the veil, or they wouldn't do them because
Speaker 1: some of them are really weird and how key okay,
Speaker 1: Like they're ridiculous if you just saw that, right, Like
Speaker 1: some of the Oteo rituals like no offense. Guys have
Speaker 1: seen some like the Mormon ones are weird too, like
Speaker 1: all this weird stuff. Nobody would do it just because.
Speaker 4: It works, or they would stop it now because normal
Speaker 4: people would look at some of the rituals and go
Speaker 4: are you retarded?
Speaker 1: Like what is wrong with you? Why are we doing this?
Speaker 1: This is stupid exactly, and why you're doing it the
Speaker 1: first time? Those things do go through your head. Oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. If there's can you see this photo?
Speaker 1: This photo freaked me out because if there's this mini watchers, wow,
Speaker 1: well and.
Speaker 4: Is it possible that we have a lot of watchers?
Speaker 4: Of course it is. And for anybody that doesn't know,
Speaker 4: if you ever go and read the Book of Enoch,
Speaker 4: which of course is a book that was removed from
Speaker 4: the Bible, right, it talks about the watchers in the
Speaker 4: Book of Enoch and their winter symbolism and what that
Speaker 4: means and whatever, and they are linked to coldness and stasis,
Speaker 4: so things not changing and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: Judgment.
Speaker 4: People do get very judging in the winter as compared
Speaker 4: to the rest of the year, for sure, and revelation
Speaker 4: before renewal. But in the Book of Enoch very interesting
Speaker 4: because they're the most influential and controversial figures Jewish mysticism,
Speaker 4: Christian theology, and modern spiritual interpretations. Because in the First
Speaker 4: Enoch chapter six through thirteen, the Watchers, which is Aramaic
Speaker 4: for erin those who watch. Their group of fallen angels
Speaker 4: assigned to observe humanity, not interfere, but observe. So they
Speaker 4: were meant to watch, guide and maintain cosmic order. But
Speaker 4: instead they came to Earth and they decided to sow
Speaker 4: their wild oats. And so they are the ones that
Speaker 4: took the human wives, and they broke all the boundaries.
Speaker 1: They interfered with.
Speaker 4: Human beings, you know, and then of course they created
Speaker 4: their own race between humans and these fallen angels, which
Speaker 4: are also called Grigory's. So of course their transgressions were
Speaker 4: forbidden knowledge, so they were not supposed to inform up,
Speaker 4: inform us of stuff that they have. So it's not, uh,
Speaker 4: it's not a sexual sin, but it's technology, medical, and spiritual.
Speaker 4: And so the key watchers that came down and these
Speaker 4: are some crazy names, but they're all for something specific.
Speaker 4: So uh Simjaza was the leader of rebellion, as Azel
Speaker 4: was weapons, metallurgy and warfare, Barriquell was astrology, Coco Bill
Speaker 4: was constellations, Shazaquil was clouds and meteorology. Ar Morose was
Speaker 4: enchantments and spell breaking and pharmachea hmmm, keep that one
Speaker 4: in mind, right, uh means drugs, roots, potions, and cosmetics.
Speaker 4: And these are crucial things to know because Enoch, the
Speaker 4: Book of Enoch, directly links fallen angels to early pharmacology.
Speaker 1: And Bachiel was actually Joseph Smith's code name. And it
Speaker 1: gets real interesting. It has a not so sinister definition
Speaker 1: and then a really sinister definition. So and which which
Speaker 1: the barock the astrology one.
Speaker 4: Barachil Oh interesting, which was also like overlust for the
Speaker 4: Jewish definition.
Speaker 1: So I was like, oh, that's very fitting. Things that
Speaker 1: make you go hm.
Speaker 4: So I think one of the things interesting about the
Speaker 4: pharmacheah angel is the breaking of roots. And think about
Speaker 4: how many drugs and things like that alter your DNA
Speaker 4: and alter your state of being, and especially with the
Speaker 4: new mRNA injections, that completely sever those roots that are
Speaker 4: your roots or ties to God. So so, given all
Speaker 4: of that and their bad behavior when they come down
Speaker 4: here and we're partying up with the people, they produce
Speaker 4: the nephilom, so the ne philum for people who have
Speaker 4: been living under a rock, consume all the resources, devour humans, nice,
Speaker 4: drink blood.
Speaker 5: Do we still have.
Speaker 1: Nephilim on there today? Delicious?
Speaker 4: And cause ecological collapse. Sure, they were the justification for
Speaker 4: the great flood, right, And after their physical bodies were destroyed,
Speaker 4: their spirits remained, and so disembodied spirits equals demons again.
Speaker 4: First Enoch chapter fifteen, And this is where Christian demonology
Speaker 4: comes from, is from the book of Enoch when he's
Speaker 4: talking about this.
Speaker 1: And where do we think we got the gods from
Speaker 1: the stories of the gods? Ye? Why did teach that
Speaker 1: in schools? Yeah?
Speaker 5: Learning that a hundred percent?
Speaker 4: Well, and why not learn about all the weird gods?
Speaker 4: But they don't want you to learn about the god.
Speaker 1: Well, there's one called and it's a very important one.
Speaker 1: Do you remember the name for the boner forever Priapus priapism. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that is a god. Apparently he had a big dick.
Speaker 4: So he has a constant he has a constant heart on.
Speaker 1: You know, they just said it was big and he
Speaker 1: was ugly. I'm like, well, that's fair. I mean he
Speaker 1: gets the big one if he's ugly, Like, come on,
Speaker 1: Adonis's son with I can't remember which one. I think
Speaker 1: maybe Aphrodite, Like it should have been a But you know,
Speaker 1: sometimes when two good looking people they might not have
Speaker 1: a cute. They might have two cutes and ugly.
Speaker 4: You just never know, that is true. It's like a
Speaker 4: crap shoot. You never know what you're gonna get.
Speaker 1: Apparently they got a crap shoot, but he had a
Speaker 1: huge and well obviously they named that disease after that,
Speaker 1: which every time I heard the name, I started laughing.
Speaker 1: I couldn't help it. I was twelve years old. I'm sorry.
Speaker 4: Well, and how odd is it that we're naming conditions
Speaker 4: after that exactly?
Speaker 1: And how odd is it that we have Greek gods
Speaker 1: on our state flags? Go check yours out, guys, Usually
Speaker 1: they're there. I know, California is this minerva. Not all
Speaker 1: state flags have them, but there's usually some sort of salute. Yeah.
Speaker 4: So interesting that that's what civilization has become, right, and
Speaker 4: is built.
Speaker 1: On, but hidden nonetheless.
Speaker 4: Right, So, because the grigory Uh had the party and
Speaker 4: made the Nephilum, god sent his arcchangels to come down
Speaker 4: and pass judgment on them. So Raphael came down and
Speaker 4: he binds aziz L in the desert. Gabriel destroys the Nephelum,
Speaker 4: Michael pronounces judgment, and then Uriel explains cosmic law to Enoch,
Speaker 4: which is where a lot of the Book of Enoch
Speaker 4: actually comes from. So the Watchers are actually bound underground
Speaker 4: until the day of Judgment. They're conscious, aware and awaiting release.
Speaker 4: So they came to Earth and partied it up and
Speaker 4: now they're bound in the dirt. And what happens when
Speaker 4: they're let loose again.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they had to watch their children be torn limb
Speaker 1: from limb. They're pissed off, is what we're seeing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I mean, what could go wrong
Speaker 4: in that situation when you got some upset parents.
Speaker 1: I don't know, just saying.
Speaker 4: So with the Watchers, there's uh medicine and altered states
Speaker 4: to consider. And so in Enoch it talks about cosmetics
Speaker 4: and how cosmetics are the root of deception. And I
Speaker 4: will tell you I completely agree. If you've ever watched
Speaker 4: an influencer do a makeup routine or whatever and they
Speaker 4: completely change their parents, that's what you see is what
Speaker 4: you get. This is me wholeheartedly. I don't do all
Speaker 4: that extra special weird take forty five minutes to do.
Speaker 1: I like some makeup, but look, when you don't look
Speaker 1: like the same human being, it's not normal, right, Okay,
Speaker 1: So ladies, no, think about.
Speaker 4: Think about not just like cosmetics, but the that lend
Speaker 4: itself into changing like males and females, you know, and
Speaker 4: females and men and just whatever and blurring the line
Speaker 4: and also going as far as like Hollywood makeup artist
Speaker 4: or stunt makeup artist or you know, all of those
Speaker 4: kind of things. It's a it's to carry on a
Speaker 4: falsehood or a lie and to make you something that
Speaker 4: you're not so anyway.
Speaker 1: Right, So women were not saying don't wear makeup, right
Speaker 1: unless you don't want to, but you should look almost
Speaker 1: the same the same, right, I look almost the same.
Speaker 1: I just don't really have very much eyebrows because they're
Speaker 1: kind of blondes. I do like my eyebrows.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like this is this is it? And so also,
Speaker 4: like I mentioned before, the root cutting, which was from
Speaker 4: pharmacology again where anything that they do any potion, medication, injection, treatment,
Speaker 4: et cetera, et cetera, or I would venture to say
Speaker 4: some testing, because that changes you in drastic ways as well.
Speaker 4: So cutting that DNA root with God and enchantments, so
Speaker 4: conscious manipulation, which what do we have the media doing,
Speaker 4: what do we have politicians doing? Right, It's almost like
Speaker 4: they're casting spells on the population at all times.
Speaker 1: That and they're wearing makeups. I'm just kidding that, Tooks.
Speaker 4: And so many people talk about drug induced or altered
Speaker 4: states in ancient priesthoods and and things like that and
Speaker 4: setting the framework for like angelic visitations or revelations things
Speaker 4: like that. But it also goes along with our tainted
Speaker 4: anointing oil series because they did that, or psychedelics used
Speaker 4: in sacraments and different kind of religions or cultish societies whatever.
Speaker 1: To bring about false illumination. I had to bring a
Speaker 1: new picture.
Speaker 4: Oh well, that's an angelic vision if I ever saw one,
Speaker 4: And it is literally Ditty in his pink Johnson and
Speaker 4: Johnson Bavy oil.
Speaker 1: Apron little dress. He's got a little dress on. He's
Speaker 1: all jacked with his you know, muscle, looking like a turn.
Speaker 1: But that's okay. If you like to dress up like that,
Speaker 1: that's fine. I don't care. But I just thought this
Speaker 1: particular picture was fun.
Speaker 4: With the lights behind him that kind of mimic angel
Speaker 4: wings exactly.
Speaker 1: And yes, we're kidding. Please if you watch just before
Speaker 1: know this. We are a little sarcastic.
Speaker 4: We have the best sense of humor there is and
Speaker 4: if you don't like our sense of humor, I am sorry, but.
Speaker 5: I'm not sorry.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, we're just who we are. I mean, at
Speaker 1: least we are who we are.
Speaker 4: That is true, and we don't pretend to be what
Speaker 4: we're not.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well in the podcast world that might be anyways, Okay,
Speaker 1: right back to.
Speaker 4: So all of this good stuff was in the Book
Speaker 4: of a Knock, So why did they remove the Book
Speaker 4: of a Knock?
Speaker 1: And also some of the books of Enoch. We know
Speaker 1: that there are some that are verified like early on,
Speaker 1: and then some came later and they're like, was that
Speaker 1: really supposed to be there? So that's what I think
Speaker 1: kind of got it all chucked out. But also it
Speaker 1: helps hide everything.
Speaker 4: So and that's why, like was it too explicit in
Speaker 4: the description of how angels corrupted humanity? Or was it
Speaker 4: because it contradicted emerging church authorities, which that definitely or
Speaker 4: because it linked demons to angelic rebellion, which yes, I
Speaker 4: would say is a thing, so Satan is not alone.
Speaker 4: So you've got angels that are rebelling and you know,
Speaker 4: doing Satan's or because this validated the non temple spiritual experiences,
Speaker 4: which I have a great show for the next one.
Speaker 4: Seriously about that particular thing.
Speaker 1: And I know some people say the systemonic and I
Speaker 1: get it. Or also it's exposing because like everybody knows
Speaker 1: the story about King Solomon and his ring and the demons,
Speaker 1: and this is what goes into that, this is part
Speaker 1: of what that is, but everybody forgets to talk about
Speaker 1: the time when he lost his ring and a demon
Speaker 1: ruled in his place for a while. That's a fun one.
Speaker 1: Maybe he didn't want you to know about all the
Speaker 1: crap that went wrong because then it was already put
Speaker 1: into a whole religious system and it carries on to
Speaker 1: this day a hundred.
Speaker 4: And you know it's funny because the Book of Enoch
Speaker 4: is still quoted directly in First Jude fourteen through fifteen.
Speaker 4: It's still preserved in Ethiopian Christianity. It is literally still
Speaker 4: part of their Bible, and it's referenced in the Dead
Speaker 4: Sea scrolls.
Speaker 1: So hmmm, even if you don't want to believe it,
Speaker 1: even if you do think it's demonic. Look, I have
Speaker 1: learned a lot from reading things that people told me
Speaker 1: not to read. Don't read that. Well, now I know
Speaker 1: why all this stuff is messed up like not this
Speaker 1: particular thing, but just write in general these darker books. Look,
Speaker 1: the knowledge is good. It's what you do with it
Speaker 1: that's bad. Like knowledge is just knowledge.
Speaker 4: And if you've not read it, and you do read it,
Speaker 4: if it awakens you or you get you know, like
Speaker 4: that that God download that the message that you're supposed
Speaker 4: to hear. Right, anytime you read scripture, it's like messages
Speaker 4: meant directly for you.
Speaker 1: They'll hit you.
Speaker 4: You could read the same thing like a hundred times,
Speaker 4: but when he really wants to hammer that point home,
Speaker 4: it's like a light bulb terms on in your head.
Speaker 4: So is that why they don't want people reading the
Speaker 4: Book of Enoch.
Speaker 1: They don't want people to know about crisper and gene
Speaker 1: editing and their klon babies that they're oh no, no, oh,
Speaker 1: that's entirely possible. So modern interpretation.
Speaker 4: Watchers are seen as the archetypes of unchecked knowledge. They
Speaker 4: warn about biotech. Biden signed a big old biotech bioengineering
Speaker 4: bill when he was in transhumanism, which we're going down
Speaker 4: that way pretty quickly far mckea. Of course, symbols of
Speaker 4: spiritual beings manipulating consciousness.
Speaker 1: These fails yeah, they they know. If you ever Now,
Speaker 1: I know everybody's gonna say, I don't want to read
Speaker 1: a cult books, that's fine, but you have to know
Speaker 1: each and every occultist talks about crossing the abyss or
Speaker 1: crossing the veil like yep at all that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And like we we talked about on the last
Speaker 4: episode with the DNA and the d MT and the
Speaker 4: you know, Star of Bethlehem and how people see vivid
Speaker 4: colors and geometric shapes and all of that kind of stuff.
Speaker 4: Is that why a lot of occult societies will do
Speaker 4: those kind of rituals because you're getting knowledge.
Speaker 1: But where are you pulling that knowledge from? John d Well?
Speaker 1: You know, I mean you could go to all of them. Look,
Speaker 1: they all have done the same thing. And I've been
Speaker 1: in trouble for saying like Mohammed talked to an angel
Speaker 1: and you know, wrote stuff down, and so did Joseph
Speaker 1: Smith and so did Look, it's all religion, like religion
Speaker 1: has been taken over like period. I don't care which
Speaker 1: one you want to vote for. What I'm saying is
Speaker 1: even the Bible. You know, they have parts of that
Speaker 1: not accessible to us. In the Vatican one hundred and
Speaker 1: ten percent.
Speaker 4: Under the Vatican and their storage chamber exactly.
Speaker 1: And I'm just saying like, obviously this is stuff that
Speaker 1: comes at a cost, because I've never seen one good
Speaker 1: story at the end where it's in occulted situation. They
Speaker 1: write the book and then the next thing, you know,
Speaker 1: like oh, you gotta raise your friend's baby, or you
Speaker 1: get thrown out a window, or you know all these
Speaker 1: bad things. It's never good. You mean, your tripped and
Speaker 1: fell out as two story window. They chucked him out
Speaker 1: of the window. I mean supposedly he did make the
Speaker 1: widows sign, but nobody wants to talk about that.
Speaker 4: So here's a question for you. Since you work in
Speaker 4: addiction and stuff like that, do you see more addiction
Speaker 4: flare ups or relapses during the winter months.
Speaker 1: It happens right before Christmas or right after Christmas. We
Speaker 1: always say like this is the calm season, right before
Speaker 1: the storm, before the storm. We know, we know what's
Speaker 1: going to happen soon, and we're just always like, oh no,
Speaker 1: you know, people that are completely normal, they go home
Speaker 1: for the holidays and they're not normal when they get back,
Speaker 1: like and it's okay, I get it, Like I get it.
Speaker 1: I am vastly different from a lot of my family. However,
Speaker 1: you can, you know, do things to protect yourself.
Speaker 4: And I would say too along with you know, addiction
Speaker 4: and relapses and stuff like that that a lot of
Speaker 4: people in my line of work, not only depression increases,
Speaker 4: but because I work with a lot of people that
Speaker 4: have had PTSD or traumas things like that in the past,
Speaker 4: the winter months actually reactivates those kind of things that
Speaker 4: they think they've dealt with, and that stuff resurfaces in
Speaker 4: the winter.
Speaker 1: And when you never see a spooky picture with like
Speaker 1: green trees and all happiness, it's always like this, right
Speaker 1: and black and white.
Speaker 4: Right, everything is black and white, so there's no crea,
Speaker 4: there's no in between.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So anyways, sleep dreams and DMT in the dark months.
Speaker 1: So winter changes.
Speaker 4: Of course, like we talked about last time, your pineal
Speaker 4: gland outputs more melatonin, so you're like draggy more frequently.
Speaker 4: You don't, you know, you're tired all the time. You
Speaker 4: just don't have the energy normal, you don't get really
Speaker 4: good risks will sleep in the winter generally, even if
Speaker 4: you're well. You might if you're hibernating bear. Let's say
Speaker 4: that I'm not a bear, but you know, so your
Speaker 4: DMT cycles also become more pronounced during the winter and
Speaker 4: the longer nights, because you know, it gets it gets
Speaker 4: light early, and it gets dark super early, and it's crazy.
Speaker 1: Sure, just so short yep, And so.
Speaker 4: Winter spiritual warfare and these are uber interesting to me.
Speaker 4: So the spirit of the north wind is a thing
Speaker 4: that's mentioned in all kinds of ancient civilizations and stuff
Speaker 4: like that and their whatever because and it's also in
Speaker 4: the Bible, right, ancient entity linked with testing faith and
Speaker 4: so multiple times in the Bible it talks about things
Speaker 4: coming from the north, or wind coming from the north
Speaker 4: that's damaging or destructive or whatever. So wintertime brings about
Speaker 4: the cold north winds and the change, and you know,
Speaker 4: lots of loved ones and things like that, and a
Speaker 4: lot of times when people fall away from religion, not
Speaker 4: from the church, but from religion itself, it's generally in
Speaker 4: the winter months.
Speaker 1: I'll have to think about when that happened for me.
Speaker 1: I can't remember. He must be related to Angelina Jolie.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, it looks like my ex husband. Yike.
Speaker 1: There is the old man winter too, But I just
Speaker 1: thought this one was more fun. But mm hmm, that's
Speaker 1: kind of creepy. It would make a really creepy like
Speaker 1: movie that would scare me. Yeah.
Speaker 4: So also in folklore and stuff, it talks about shadow
Speaker 4: people in the winter, so more sightings occur in the
Speaker 4: winter than any other time of year. Again Heidi's creepy
Speaker 4: picture of the cloak dude in the woods.
Speaker 1: Thank you.
Speaker 4: I think I might have bad dreams later. Frozen heart syndrome,
Speaker 4: which I was like, what the heck is this? So
Speaker 4: people have zero apathy and their numb and disassociated from
Speaker 4: other people.
Speaker 1: That's why.
Speaker 4: I hate going out in the wintertime because people are
Speaker 4: assholes and they're rude everywhere you go.
Speaker 1: For that all the time?
Speaker 4: Now, oh wait, no, seriously, like a grocery store or
Speaker 4: anything like, People's behavior changes in the winter, and so
Speaker 4: people get quote unquote frozen heart syndrome because it changes
Speaker 4: their whatever.
Speaker 1: Thanks, we're fussy. You have to read what that says. Sure,
Speaker 1: it's just a temporary weakening of the heart muscle, often
Speaker 1: triggered by extreme emotional or physical stress, causing it to
Speaker 1: balloon out. It's because of the stress hormone that it
Speaker 1: temporarily stuns the heart, affecting small blood vessels. Unlike a
Speaker 1: heart attack. It blocks the large arteries in the heart attack,
Speaker 1: but not in this. It's just like stunned. So you'll
Speaker 1: get sudden chest pain, shortness of breath, fatigue, often mistaken
Speaker 1: for a heart attack. And I don't know how to
Speaker 1: say the other part that taco. I don't know. Tacket
Speaker 1: subo heart syndrome is much easier.
Speaker 4: So say that five times best, how about it? So
Speaker 4: think about that though, that you can actually mimic a
Speaker 4: heart attack, or your body can mimic a heart attack
Speaker 4: because you turn into an asshole in the winter.
Speaker 1: This should be renamed asshole syndrome exactly something. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: need a little well, it's better than tak it too
Speaker 1: subo whatever.
Speaker 4: That's terrible, Like who even came up with that word?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you could have come up with something so cool.
Speaker 1: It stuns the heart, like I'm a stunner syndrome. That's
Speaker 1: something better than that.
Speaker 4: So outside of the frozen heart syndrome, people also experience
Speaker 4: heavy presences during long nights, and so they may even
Speaker 4: feel like they have a room full of unwanted guests,
Speaker 4: not people, you're not at my house. Yeah, spooky people,
Speaker 4: night people, shadow people.
Speaker 1: Ladies of the night, not that one. If you have
Speaker 1: those in your bedroom, you should get them out. You
Speaker 1: might you might get criapism exactly. You know what happened.
Speaker 1: We're not talking about that.
Speaker 5: So uh.
Speaker 4: Dark anointing oil is also more common in the winter.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 4: It's more common to see more people drugged and heavily
Speaker 4: sedated with you know, sedative herbs and rituals and things
Speaker 4: like that in the winter than it is any other time.
Speaker 1: So watch it's Diddy again. It's Diddy, and.
Speaker 4: Watch your it's the Diddler anointing oil on your Holoh.
Speaker 1: If you go to anybody's house and they have two
Speaker 1: thousand bottles of baby oil, leave now, hey, right and
Speaker 1: think about Uh it's an exit only door and not
Speaker 1: an int I mean you have you cannot tell me
Speaker 1: people didn't go in there to get some toilet paper
Speaker 1: and what the hell is going on in here?
Speaker 4: There's no toilet paper, but there's plenty of baby oil.
Speaker 4: That's it's hard to reach cases.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, all the victims, but you're an asshole, you
Speaker 1: know did it?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 4: He did, and he knows and they covered that up.
Speaker 1: So they had to because they probably all got it too.
Speaker 1: I want to explain.
Speaker 4: So the watchers versus the light, so winter being that
Speaker 4: it's a testing ground for the watcher angels. They are
Speaker 4: not here to bring comfort, isn't that nice. They're here
Speaker 4: to help you reflect, expose like hidden sins and things
Speaker 4: like that, or sins that you don't want to face,
Speaker 4: things that you've done in the past, all of that
Speaker 4: kind of stuff, consequences for your actions and revelation of
Speaker 4: hidden things. So that's their job. But they're not here
Speaker 4: to again bring you happiness and make you feel all
Speaker 4: warm and cuddly. So after winter, that's the course when
Speaker 4: it's the renewal, the rebirth, the reawakening, healing, new purpose,
Speaker 4: new identity. Hence New Year's resolutions. That's why people started
Speaker 4: getting into doing that. And it didn't have anything to
Speaker 4: do with tradition. It literally had to do with the watchers.
Speaker 1: Exactly.
Speaker 4: So if you're one of those people that makes New
Speaker 4: Year's resolutions all the time, you're doing a Nephilim type tradition.
Speaker 1: So you might want to stop that, just saying just
Speaker 1: renew year stuff. Look, everybody joins the gym. I go
Speaker 1: to the gym a lot and it is so annoying.
Speaker 1: And I'm not trying to disson people, but they only
Speaker 1: go for like four to six weeks. Look, make a
Speaker 1: good habit and do it for real. I mean, you
Speaker 1: know it's it's gonna only help you. I'm not saying
Speaker 1: you have to be all jacked and crazy like I
Speaker 1: can't do that anymore. I use lift weights and stuff,
Speaker 1: but I hurt my back and I still go. I
Speaker 1: don't get crazy. My husband gets crazy.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I don't get crazy either, but my husband also
Speaker 4: does get crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just make it, uh, whenever you need to do that.
Speaker 1: It doesn't have to be.
Speaker 4: The first year, and you should make that part of
Speaker 4: a healthy lifestyle routine anyway.
Speaker 1: It could be calistenics, you could go for a walk,
Speaker 1: you could walk your port doggy who probably love that.
Speaker 1: You know, all those things, cherry yoga, anything exactly.
Speaker 4: So with all the crazy that goes in in the winter,
Speaker 4: how are what would you tell people or suggest to
Speaker 4: people to do to defend yourself or protect yourself in
Speaker 4: the dark place.
Speaker 1: Here's one of them. I would read your scriptures and
Speaker 1: pray and also don't go to the don't go to
Speaker 1: the veil.
Speaker 5: Do that don't cross.
Speaker 1: Keep the heck away from there. That's a bad house. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you gotta you know, you gotta be wise. Let's be
Speaker 1: wise here, and here's some of it. You know, you
Speaker 1: must get dressed in the God's armor in order to
Speaker 1: survive our spiritual winter. And I really like this one.
Speaker 1: And you know that that prayer is so simple. I mean,
Speaker 1: it doesn't have to be the whole verse word for word.
Speaker 1: You can just say, Dear God, put the armor of
Speaker 1: God upon me, and Jesus Christ name Amen. Like you
Speaker 1: don't have to make it. He knows what you're talking about.
Speaker 1: He knows your heart. But I mean there's a balance, right, like,
Speaker 1: don't just be like.
Speaker 4: He doesn't like that either, but yeah, gotta.
Speaker 1: Be come on it. He knows when you're lying. That's
Speaker 1: what you know. That is very true.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say outside of reading scripture, and.
Speaker 1: Even if even if you.
Speaker 4: Want to get like a Bible app or whatever, you
Speaker 4: can have it send you a daily verse. So it's
Speaker 4: literally a verse a day. It's short, it doesn't take
Speaker 4: that long to read, and that's something right, And there's
Speaker 4: always good messages in there these psalms.
Speaker 1: If you get super depressed and you can place psalms
Speaker 1: at zero audible level to you that. Trust me, it'll help,
Speaker 1: It'll get some shit out away from you. They don't
Speaker 1: like that, Yeah, they don't like that.
Speaker 4: So along with scripture, I would say light exposure. I
Speaker 4: know it's it's darker in the winter and whatever, but
Speaker 4: you still need, you know, that balance between the sun
Speaker 4: and the moon because that resets our circadian rhythm, our
Speaker 4: internal clock. So I still go outside even in the winter.
Speaker 1: I bundle up in my snowsuit, get up and get
Speaker 1: rested and do the things. I know it's dark. Look,
Speaker 1: you can have we once a week, like I'm not
Speaker 1: doing shit today. Okay, I get that, Like I get
Speaker 1: that we all need.
Speaker 4: We all need days like that where we reboot. But
Speaker 4: if you're doing that every single day.
Speaker 1: If you're smoking yourself silly and not getting out of bed,
Speaker 1: you're going to be depressed. Yeah that's I'm not telling
Speaker 1: you can't ever smoke weed. But me and Janete have
Speaker 1: had a lot to say about what they do with that.
Speaker 1: But that's fine. If you want to do that, why
Speaker 1: don't you use it like anything? You wouldn't like wake
Speaker 1: up and just get drunk like most people wouldn't. I mean,
Speaker 1: some people want somebody. I'm just saying as a as
Speaker 1: a normal rule, because we have to drive cars and
Speaker 1: do the things right. Don't don't stay up all night
Speaker 1: like it's that idea. Yeah, don't just set up a schedule. Yeah,
Speaker 1: a couple.
Speaker 4: Avoid energy draining people because you're already drained lower energy
Speaker 4: during the winter months anyway.
Speaker 5: And if you have energy vampires.
Speaker 1: This is my favorite look. That is very fitting. And
Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell you a story after the show, so
Speaker 4: so funny.
Speaker 1: I don't know who wrote this book, but this was
Speaker 1: some book cover.
Speaker 4: So it says the parasite person and it is a
Speaker 4: woman's face on a on a parasite.
Speaker 1: So on a spooky spider. So I'll watch those uh
Speaker 1: type of people. Uh.
Speaker 4: If you're into grounding, spiritual grounding stuff like that.
Speaker 1: Definitely do that.
Speaker 4: I still do that literally every day. I will take time,
Speaker 4: I will go outside, I will look at nature, or
Speaker 4: will breed the fresh air, all of that stuff. However,
Speaker 4: you ground yourself, make sure that you still do that,
Speaker 4: especially in the winter. It's super important.
Speaker 1: And how about.
Speaker 4: Journaling, writing down your thoughts and your feelings, and you
Speaker 4: know all of the things. Even if if you think
Speaker 4: of something that you want to say to God or whatever,
Speaker 4: are you going to write that down to you know
Speaker 4: exactly all.
Speaker 5: Of that kind of stuff. And so.
Speaker 4: Watch out for those kind of things in the winter,
Speaker 4: and those are things that you can do to protect yourself.
Speaker 4: So tell us what slide you have on here?
Speaker 1: Now, lie, this is just the energy parasite people. What
Speaker 1: are they? Kind of what you already explain, they're trying
Speaker 1: to take your life force and keeping you stuck in
Speaker 1: a low vibration fear, anxiety, anger, exhaustion and in these
Speaker 1: people don't mean it. Look we got I'm gonna say,
Speaker 1: some people don't know. And some people are trying to
Speaker 1: fix themselves with you because you're happy or whatever. And
Speaker 1: I get the comment a lot at work, like well
Speaker 1: they give you crap because you don't seem hurt. And
Speaker 1: I'm like, I know because I don't want to be.
Speaker 1: It sucks and I'm not going to let it rule
Speaker 1: my life. Like that's stupid, Like not my mood. Yeah,
Speaker 1: not not that. So you try to give, you know,
Speaker 1: try to try to help them to like remember we
Speaker 1: are called to help. But you've got to do boundaries right.
Speaker 4: And you definitely have to project yourself against people.
Speaker 1: You have to. You have to do prayer before shut
Speaker 1: down gossip. You know, if you're going if you know,
Speaker 1: you're going to your great aunt Nellie's house, and she's
Speaker 1: a pain, and she's one of these little you know,
Speaker 1: happy suckers. She sucks all the happiness out of the room.
Speaker 1: Fun sucker, right, okay, kind of sucker ditty. No, not
Speaker 1: that fun, not that fun sucker a fun not on
Speaker 1: fun person. You know you're going to be to these
Speaker 1: different things. The worst thing you can do is get
Speaker 1: trashed when you go over there to deal with it.
Speaker 1: Then you're really depressed or super high because they're all depressants.
Speaker 1: It's just the way it is, you know. And if
Speaker 1: you do too much adderall to fix it the other way,
Speaker 1: you're not going to be okay either. It's all bad.
Speaker 1: You won't ever sleep. Then you're going to be in
Speaker 1: the weird circadia. It's all you just have to be balanced,
Speaker 1: like whatever the normal is, do the normal. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying don't ever take those things or don't ever use
Speaker 1: that don't don't go crazy here. This is the season
Speaker 1: of crazy, right, Such they're eating too much, they're they're
Speaker 1: doing too much, they're spending too much. Like you've got
Speaker 1: to get it together and rein it back a little
Speaker 1: bit and pre prepare, like, oh, I know, I'm going
Speaker 1: to Aunt Nelly's in two days. I'm going to read
Speaker 1: some scriptures. I'm going to pray, I'm going to armor up,
Speaker 1: I'm going to mentally get sleep, go outside, see the
Speaker 1: sunlike everything Janna said. Maybe go exercise, like, look, you
Speaker 1: can work on all kinds of things, and that can
Speaker 1: be your test of how good did you do with
Speaker 1: that situation? Did you help Aunt Nelly maybe one day.
Speaker 1: People always say those kind of people never change, and
Speaker 1: I have multiple people like that in my family, okay,
Speaker 1: and some of them we just are like that's just
Speaker 1: how that is, Like you know, we just know. But
Speaker 1: I never don't try. And it's been over twenty five
Speaker 1: years and I never just go well, fuck, like screw
Speaker 1: you almost a bad word. I'm not going to Nellies, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to buy him this, or I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna send him home food, or I'm not gonna come on.
Speaker 1: It's the season of giving figure it out. He's obviously
Speaker 1: or she's obviously having a very hard time, because you
Speaker 1: wouldn't be that miserable otherwise. So we don't know their struggles,
Speaker 1: you know, pray for them like before you go, you know.
Speaker 5: One hundred percent, one hundred percent.
Speaker 4: So winter is kind of like our compression chamber for
Speaker 4: our soul, right, And so winter is when Heaven watches
Speaker 4: the earth most closely. And it is because in winter
Speaker 4: you have sensory deprivation, so long periods of darkness, less
Speaker 4: sunlight the whole night yards, and so you're not going
Speaker 4: to hear like crickets sharping and you know, all of
Speaker 4: that kind of stuff, and so our senses are dulled down.
Speaker 4: We have social withdrawal that happens because we tend to
Speaker 4: stay in more instead of running out and doing all
Speaker 4: the things. In the winter, your body temperature normally drops,
Speaker 4: which is interesting because when we talked about last time,
Speaker 4: these entities and demons and stuff also have a cold presence,
Speaker 4: and so do the watchers, right, because their symbolism is
Speaker 4: the cold.
Speaker 1: And so.
Speaker 4: If your body temperature drops normally in the winter and
Speaker 4: you're feeling especially colder than normal, maybe you got some
Speaker 4: people around you just saying or some entities also we
Speaker 4: have hormonal imbalances, Like cortisol drops off normally in winter,
Speaker 4: So cortisol controls all kinds of things. So your your sleep,
Speaker 4: your energy level, your pain level, wait, all that stuff.
Speaker 4: It's a big part of that stressing.
Speaker 1: You don't want to give yourself a heart attack, cut
Speaker 1: it out.
Speaker 4: The sleep cycles are different, and you know, hallucinatory or
Speaker 4: vivid dreams and all of that stuff. So all of
Speaker 4: those things compressing us together definitely going to have effect
Speaker 4: on a lot of people that are I guess more
Speaker 4: sensitive to stuff like that.
Speaker 1: I want to say in a nice way. So I
Speaker 1: think it leaves those channels open if you're already on
Speaker 1: the precipice of having some major issues, right like you
Speaker 1: know you fight addiction or you know, you have a
Speaker 1: problem with Aunt Nelly, Like you're already starting to do
Speaker 1: the Doomsville Like, oh well, you're at the door. I
Speaker 1: like this picture because I think it shows it shows reality,
Speaker 1: Like you're at the door. You don't have to go
Speaker 1: through that door, man, like you know, turn around that
Speaker 1: the way.
Speaker 4: So spiritually speaking, with this compressure chamber thing that's going
Speaker 4: on with this, your consciousness becomes like a cracked door.
Speaker 4: And so the watchers are standing on the other side
Speaker 4: of that door, right, they're literally peeking at you through
Speaker 4: that doorway, and they're like, are you going to come
Speaker 4: in here?
Speaker 1: You have to stand the red lady over here. We
Speaker 1: got we got oil, we got we got wife swapping
Speaker 1: and all kinds. Don't all the things, all the things,
Speaker 1: you know, that's not getting you anywhere.
Speaker 5: Like really one hundred percent.
Speaker 1: So it will get you far, but you'll feel bad. Well,
Speaker 1: you might feel bad. You might not feel bad. I don't.
Speaker 1: You might feel good for a minute, and then you
Speaker 1: might feel bad. These really really really rich people that
Speaker 1: like run things, like how many of them do you
Speaker 1: ever see? That are like, I'm just the happiest person ever.
Speaker 5: A hundred percent.
Speaker 1: They hate their life half the time.
Speaker 4: They're like, I yeah, one hundred percent. And I think
Speaker 4: of influencers the same way, because most influencers, their normal
Speaker 4: lives are completely different from what they portray on the internet.
Speaker 1: And I think we have issues with that because there's
Speaker 1: a few of us that are just what we are
Speaker 1: right here. It is I swear too much, and I
Speaker 1: take it or leave it. Well, I'm a nerd and yeah,
Speaker 1: like I'm a mom like if you went and looked
Speaker 1: up anything it it'd all be exactly what I said,
Speaker 1: you know, or you interviewed my family, they'd be like,
Speaker 1: yep that, yep, she's more annoying than you even know, but.
Speaker 4: Likes bonus points right exactly.
Speaker 1: But it wouldn't be like, oh no, as soon as
Speaker 1: they turn off the camera, like never smile again or whatever.
Speaker 1: And look, if it's if it's your thing to do
Speaker 1: an acting job, I get it, but like it's disingenuous,
Speaker 1: it's gonna come across.
Speaker 5: So mm hmmm, one hundred percent.
Speaker 4: And especially like the beauty influencers right that are that
Speaker 4: are just stunning and they literally have very low self
Speaker 4: esteem and and they don't find themselves pretty, they don't
Speaker 4: think they're worth anything whatever. Those are the people they're
Speaker 4: like stuck in that perpetual state of confusion and not
Speaker 4: knowing who they are as a person.
Speaker 1: So we're not saying if you use that's you, but
Speaker 1: we are saying, if you can't be okay with not
Speaker 1: your best day ever, you know, time to work on things.
Speaker 4: So one hundred percent. So in winter with the compression chamber,
Speaker 4: so psychologically speaking, humans become more prone of course, to
Speaker 4: the visions and the night terrors and stuff like that,
Speaker 4: because and things that look more like psychosis because of
Speaker 4: all these things that take place, not just in the
Speaker 4: spiritual realm, but like I said, in in the body
Speaker 4: wise and in medical terms, the perfect storm of course
Speaker 4: of the melatonin and the cortisol dropping and the circadium
Speaker 4: rhythm you know, out of whack, and this serotonin depletion
Speaker 4: and all of that stuff makes winter high contact season
Speaker 4: between human perception and whatever lies outside of the veil.
Speaker 1: So well, and here's the thing. Sometimes it's okay to
Speaker 1: be a little depressed. Here's the thing. Everybody needs to
Speaker 1: understand this as a person that works in mental health.
Speaker 1: People will say, but I'm just depressed. I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: like your grandma died or your dog died or whatever happened,
Speaker 1: and again you've got this past trauma and maybe it
Speaker 1: stirred all that up, you know or whatever. Situational depression
Speaker 1: is normal, but they make you feel like it's not
Speaker 1: normal because then they can treat you. I'm not saying
Speaker 1: chronically depressed people. I'm saying you had a problem and
Speaker 1: now you're sad because this happened. That's normal. If your
Speaker 1: parent died or your child Heaven forbid never. But like,
Speaker 1: if there's some issue going on, Yeah, you're stressed, you've
Speaker 1: got a teenager, you got multiple team whatever, that's normal, right,
Speaker 1: forgotten that is normal.
Speaker 4: One hundred percent, And it's uh, it's easier to diagnose
Speaker 4: a mental health illness and prescribe stuff instead of letting
Speaker 4: somebody learn the coping skills on their own. Absolutely absolutely so,
Speaker 4: then you then you never learn to cope with stuff,
Speaker 4: and so then you always use a crutch to deal
Speaker 4: with anything, and your crutch being your medication.
Speaker 1: Or even a therapist. Like therapy's great, but if that's
Speaker 1: replacing your family or people that you know would be
Speaker 1: healthy for you to talk to, like friends or whatever
Speaker 1: that case, maybe like, oh, I just have to only
Speaker 1: talk to this there. Like if they make you think
Speaker 1: that that's probably not good. That's a paycheck guaranteed for
Speaker 1: the rest of their life. Don't forget that. It can
Speaker 1: be the nicest people ever. They're still making money.
Speaker 4: Oh, one hundred percent, and they're going to make you
Speaker 4: feel right at home and as pleasant as to me
Speaker 4: to continually manipulate you into stuff, right.
Speaker 1: Exactly, so with.
Speaker 4: The veil and the and the watchers that are on
Speaker 4: the other side also, and we have in different mythologies.
Speaker 4: We have the Norse Jotners, which are frost spirits, kind
Speaker 4: of like that creepy thing you had up there with
Speaker 4: the skull and this guy.
Speaker 1: No, I was thinking about.
Speaker 4: The one with the skull, the creepy gold demon person.
Speaker 1: Right, Oh yeah, we're going right there.
Speaker 4: Uh so uh In in Norse Norse mythology and stuff,
Speaker 4: they're not demons, they're not gods, but they're watchers of
Speaker 4: the threshold and their dorm. Their domain, of course was
Speaker 4: cold isolation and soul endurance, and they observe humanity under pressure.
Speaker 4: So even in Norse stories and stuff, it's the same.
Speaker 1: I would.
Speaker 4: Right, I think I would rather see an angelic vision
Speaker 4: than this rotting flesh angelina.
Speaker 5: RCAs with the.
Speaker 4: Antlers and whatever skull for anyway, we also have, uh
Speaker 4: in Catholic demonology, the spirits of the North, and I
Speaker 4: had mentioned that earlier, associated with testing, temptation, purification through suffering,
Speaker 4: and confronting inner shadows. And then we have indigenous cultures
Speaker 4: also that have winter watchers, and they believe that winter
Speaker 4: spirits walk among the living because human breath is invisible
Speaker 4: life forks leaks more easily, which I tend to agree
Speaker 4: with that, and the soul becomes thin. So their thinking
Speaker 4: is energetically, winter is porous, so we are like a
Speaker 4: leaky sponge and winter just soaks all of that up, right, So.
Speaker 1: Also esoterically, it's the time where you know, weird things
Speaker 1: have happened. As soon as we go into the fall
Speaker 1: season into winter season, it doesn't come back like till
Speaker 1: the light comes back. Right. Pretty much around Easter is
Speaker 1: when things are to lift a little bit.
Speaker 4: But yeah, undered person, and then we have the pecan
Speaker 4: uh Easter holiday.
Speaker 1: And we do the maple for the privace, right, Oki Doki.
Speaker 1: They should have just named Viagara that that would have
Speaker 1: been hilarious in my opinion. Well, you never know where
Speaker 1: that name, where that name came from either, who knows? Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: Fun So.
Speaker 4: With all of these different you know, beliefs and and
Speaker 4: stuff around the world, and how they all have some
Speaker 4: kind of different watcher or or something like that, and
Speaker 4: it's literally in every kind of mythology, traditional writings, whatever
Speaker 4: you want to say. Obviously they all believe the same thing.
Speaker 4: So people have all experienced some kind of a thing
Speaker 4: like that going on. So it's very interesting to me though.
Speaker 4: But that's like cross cultures and traditions that these watchers appear.
Speaker 4: So even if you don't believe in the Bible, uh,
Speaker 4: it's literally written about in every kind of culture.
Speaker 1: And if if a guy shows up in your bedroom
Speaker 1: and tells you to go dig up the golden plates,
Speaker 1: look already been done, so don't worry about it.
Speaker 4: So in the winter, when your dopamine breaks down and
Speaker 4: you know, it leaves you susceptible to spiritual obsession. So
Speaker 4: can people be more obsessed with God and angels or
Speaker 4: can they be obsessed more with the opposite of that?
Speaker 4: I'm going to say yes, because a lot of people
Speaker 4: in the wintertime get doomsday thinking everything is wrong, everything
Speaker 4: is bad, everything is falling apart, my family hates me, this, that,
Speaker 4: and the other. So a lot of people are doom
Speaker 4: and gloom all winter long, and hence why I don't
Speaker 4: like going out to the store.
Speaker 1: In the winter.
Speaker 4: And people also have a lot of like we talked
Speaker 4: about earlier, the relapses in the winter or this is
Speaker 4: something I've encountered lately with a lot of people I've
Speaker 4: talked to, they feel like they're spiritually under attack. More
Speaker 4: so in the winter, Like every single person I have
Speaker 4: talked to has felt like off or like I feel
Speaker 4: something in the air, like everything around me, like the
Speaker 4: atmosphere feels weird or you know whatever, or uh like
Speaker 4: sensing like darkness around them or stuff like that. And
Speaker 4: very rarely do I ever talk to somebody in the
Speaker 4: winter that feels like it's a happy, spiritual kind of presence.
Speaker 1: I'm a weird I'm a weirdo that way. I love
Speaker 1: Christmas time, not Christmas. I love Christmas time and like
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving the holidays right right, even though I know, like
Speaker 1: I'll they again whatever, that's fine, it's all, but it's
Speaker 1: a nice season and I do get really excited for
Speaker 1: the season more than the day. It's not really about
Speaker 1: gifts or anything for me per se. I like doing
Speaker 1: things for others, like like janeitys and yeah, like baking
Speaker 1: or fun things that I wouldn't do like the rest
Speaker 1: of the time, well, because you can't feed your kids
Speaker 1: like all that garbage all the time. It's fun, but
Speaker 1: you know all those yeah and eggnog and all that stuff.
Speaker 1: But it's fun, right, you look forward to it, and
Speaker 1: I just think that. You know, we always have certain
Speaker 1: traditions and we get together and we go to this
Speaker 1: one Mongolian barbecue place, and all the kids always laugh
Speaker 1: and say it's like Christmas story when they go to
Speaker 1: the Chinese place, and it's just fun. You know, a
Speaker 1: lot of the little traditions.
Speaker 4: I'm glad that you have that like happiness around you
Speaker 4: in the winter. The guys, literally every body I have
Speaker 4: talked to lately has felt the complete opposite and like
Speaker 4: they're being encroached upon or closed in on by whatever
Speaker 4: present them.
Speaker 1: I mean, I only feel closed out in the podcast. No,
Speaker 1: just kidding, not really. No. I actually have always loved winter, though,
Speaker 1: and I just think it's part of growing up in Idaho.
Speaker 1: Here the winters are like nothing. But my kids and
Speaker 1: me like the first snow, We're like ecstatic, We're super excited,
Speaker 1: like we just I don't know, I've always been a
Speaker 1: winter lover. I hate summer. I hate summer. But that's
Speaker 1: just me, I guess maybe yeah, Scottish and Irish, maybe
Speaker 1: I like the doom and gloom. Who knows English, Scottish, Irish.
Speaker 1: None of those places are.
Speaker 4: Very You may like the Norse mythology.
Speaker 1: I don't want that. He scares me. I'm good. I'll
Speaker 1: take the snowman. That's good. And you know the music
Speaker 1: and just I don't know all of It's pretty happy
Speaker 1: around our house that way. But I mean, also I see, yeah,
Speaker 1: it hurts more. I mean, everybody knows. I've had a
Speaker 1: bunch of back surgeries. You have like it sucks. You know,
Speaker 1: there's parts of it that I'm like, wow, that is
Speaker 1: a level whoa today? Whoa? But I just try, really,
Speaker 1: And that's why I fidget so much in my chair too,
Speaker 1: because people have commented on that a lot. But I
Speaker 1: just it's just part of living with pain. But you
Speaker 1: just have to accept things. I think you have to
Speaker 1: become a more accepting person of a lot of things
Speaker 1: to overcome things and then be better.
Speaker 4: And I think that bodes well too for the topic
Speaker 4: that are talking about, because again, if you're in a
Speaker 4: weakened state, whether it be physical, mental, or spiritual, you're
Speaker 4: more susceptible to those kind of things going on, and
Speaker 4: maybe you are more susceptible to feel all of these
Speaker 4: dark presences around you watching mm hmm.
Speaker 1: So what canf I back? Yeah, you can I back.
Speaker 5: So you have to read that.
Speaker 1: Oh, this is another armor of God, one that says,
Speaker 1: put on the whole armor of God that you may
Speaker 1: be able to stand against the wiles of the devil
Speaker 1: Ephesians six eleven. And this and the Lord's Prayer have
Speaker 1: always been my go to, even though I know they
Speaker 1: changed it, like I know they did. I know they
Speaker 1: changed the Lord's prayer. But regardless, right Jesus was doing
Speaker 1: the teaching there. I think he knows our hearts. Even
Speaker 1: if things get found right, like they can change that one.
Speaker 1: So I know this, when I'm nervous or scared or
Speaker 1: really really scared, I will do those just because I
Speaker 1: know that that gird your loins, you know, got it?
Speaker 1: You have to and also exercise all the important things.
Speaker 1: Cook at home that's also I think really a big
Speaker 1: deal because not only for you, but those you cook for,
Speaker 1: because they've done studies on this, Like it's could be
Speaker 1: the same crap food you're gonna eat like somewhere else,
Speaker 1: but you cooking it at home. It's like different prayover.
Speaker 4: Because there's actual love and intention behind it instead of
Speaker 4: you know, or I like to think of you know,
Speaker 4: like if you go to say a barbecue place or
Speaker 4: something like that one of their sides is macaroni and cheese.
Speaker 4: If you literally think they make that macaroni and cheese,
Speaker 4: you are sadly mistaken.
Speaker 1: Buy it and John Well comes from Cisco.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they buy it in giant bags and they dump
Speaker 4: it out and stir it up.
Speaker 1: And that is literally and that's why it tastes the same.
Speaker 1: Everywhere from Arizona to Canada, they all have the same,
Speaker 1: you know, person that brings the food right.
Speaker 4: And if you if you're one of those people that
Speaker 4: believes in energy, vibrations, stuff like that, you putting your
Speaker 4: energy and love into that dish at home, you're getting
Speaker 4: zero energy and love in the dish out at a restaurant,
Speaker 4: so to stand.
Speaker 1: And it's not terrible to do it once in a while,
Speaker 1: but just remember, you know, it's it's best for you.
Speaker 1: Even though people say, well everything and you're right, everything's tainted.
Speaker 1: I mean, like, I don't know what we do about that,
Speaker 1: you know at this point, other than even do it yourself.
Speaker 1: And even then it's still like they're spread. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's just a big rattle hole. We've been through. We
Speaker 1: know that. But also you got to do what you can.
Speaker 1: You don't want to take you.
Speaker 4: Down, So thinking about vulnerabilities and weaknesses spiritual, physical, mental.
Speaker 4: Oddly enough, uh, in the dark season of the veil thinning,
Speaker 4: there are three and that's what I just mentioned, which
Speaker 4: who knew if you're not deep into this stuff, you
Speaker 4: would have no idea that you have a veil for
Speaker 4: each one of the things. And so the psychological one
Speaker 4: is where dreams blend with waking life. You see patterns
Speaker 4: more clearly, or fabricate patterns, which there's some people that
Speaker 4: do that, and the mind becomes symbolic, and so feed
Speaker 4: your brain, feed your life, right. The psychological veil is
Speaker 4: energy savings mode. That means slower metabolism because everything slows
Speaker 4: down in the winter, lower body temperature again, and your
Speaker 4: immune system gets weaker.
Speaker 1: That's why a lot of people are like.
Speaker 4: Oh I have a cold, Oh I have a flu,
Speaker 4: I have blah blah blah. Because you're not sleeping well,
Speaker 4: you're probably not eating well, you're not getting sunlight, you
Speaker 4: have lower energy. All these things are depleted and stuff,
Speaker 4: and so this opens the doorway for visitations or visions
Speaker 4: and all those kind of things.
Speaker 1: Remember how a bear looks when it comes out of hibernation.
Speaker 1: It's not good Like me when I get up in
Speaker 1: the morning, it's like, oh my gosh, are you gonna live? Bro?
Speaker 1: Like they're all molting and creey.
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, well again that's me in the morning.
Speaker 4: Did you ever did you ever hear of the cartoon
Speaker 4: the hair Bears, not the care bears, the hair Bears.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I've heard of it. And it
Speaker 1: was a bunch of.
Speaker 4: It was a cartoony and they were bears and whatever,
Speaker 4: and they all had like these big afros.
Speaker 1: And all this stuff.
Speaker 4: That's totally me in the morning, like because uber curly hair,
Speaker 4: and then I sleep on it at night and it
Speaker 4: gets like everywhere, and it's like, so, yeah, I look
Speaker 4: like a hibernating bear when I get up in the morning.
Speaker 1: Just say it. Mine is actually straight. A lot of
Speaker 1: people think I have naturally curly hair. I curl my
Speaker 1: hair because it needs to trust me, It's it's very
Speaker 1: fine and sad if it's not curled. But sometimes it
Speaker 1: goes too curly. And me and Janet have had these discussion,
Speaker 1: but I'm like, I'm coming, but this is a I've
Speaker 1: got a whole situation here.
Speaker 4: Those on those bad days where mine is just like
Speaker 4: frizzy and I can't control it or contain it.
Speaker 5: Those are hat days.
Speaker 1: I do have a lot of hats.
Speaker 4: And I do not I'm not afraid to wear them.
Speaker 4: So and the spiritual realm of things, many traditions again
Speaker 4: with the Norse and Indigenous and all of these things.
Speaker 4: They believe that winter is when the dead walk closer
Speaker 4: to us because cold preserves warmth gives light. So if
Speaker 4: they can get super close to us to observe, like dude,
Speaker 4: literally right over my shoulder, two bodies create more energy.
Speaker 4: So and winter represents limited lemonal lemonality. Sorry, I cannot talk.
Speaker 4: So our angels, angels, watchers and spirits operate where boundaries
Speaker 4: then and so.
Speaker 1: And remember for me anyway, I believe that the dead
Speaker 1: that they're talking about now, a lot of people believe
Speaker 1: the dead or their ancestors. It's my personal belief absence.
Speaker 1: So it's the body is present with the Lord. And
Speaker 1: unless you had a problem, right, if there's a reason
Speaker 1: why you're here, it's probably not a good one. So
Speaker 1: that's why again we get into the dark spirit and
Speaker 1: the nefilm spirits and like possible.
Speaker 4: That's what I was just gonna say, with the the
Speaker 4: disembodied spirits from the flood means they're demonic in nature,
Speaker 4: and so.
Speaker 1: A body's stuck here if somebody brought it back some
Speaker 1: of that shit and now they're mad. So just it's
Speaker 1: all mad. I don't know about all that. And angels
Speaker 1: from God even right like, yeah, don't care about you.
Speaker 1: They're just doing what God says like they have to.
Speaker 4: So then with those with those purple goggles that you
Speaker 4: can see like supposedly presences around you, would highly not
Speaker 4: recommend in the winter absolutely just so yeah, no, So
Speaker 4: spiritual warfare unique to winter. And we talked about before
Speaker 4: how people relapse or whatever in the winter. So one
Speaker 4: of the things that the watchers do, since they try
Speaker 4: to get you to unveil like things about yourself and
Speaker 4: hidden truths and all of this kind of stuff, they
Speaker 4: test your addiction. So cravings go up in the winter,
Speaker 4: escape fantasies. I can't wait to get away from my family,
Speaker 4: I can't wait to be somewhere else, like all the things.
Speaker 4: Feelings of abandonment also evolve, and again running away from people,
Speaker 4: from family or thinking about people running away from you,
Speaker 4: and spiritual numbness, like we said, the frozen hearts ndrome
Speaker 4: where you have no apthy and you're no, you're just
Speaker 4: like a You're like an NPC, right, And so that's
Speaker 4: one of the things the watchers do is test your
Speaker 4: addictions and stuff like that. They also do winter shadow
Speaker 4: attacks and so because and this is comes a lot
Speaker 4: from Christian mysticism, but demons whisper more in the winter.
Speaker 4: So yes, if you have depression and stuff like that,
Speaker 4: of course, like you're worthless, nobody likes you, nobody wants
Speaker 4: to be around you. These are the things that are
Speaker 4: playing on repeat for a lot of people. So again,
Speaker 4: your intrusive thoughts, you know, like blossom in the winter.
Speaker 4: And so you're having all these things and everything is
Speaker 4: dark and despair and the world is going to end
Speaker 4: and everything's chaotic and why would I live here?
Speaker 5: It's kind of like black pill type situation.
Speaker 4: Yeah, which these kind of things definitely match like ideally
Speaker 4: with suicidal stuff during the winter. Anxiety spikes, compulsive behavior,
Speaker 4: erratic behavior, irritated behavior, all the Christmas shoppers out about.
Speaker 4: So this is when quote unquote science and spiritual warfare
Speaker 4: like come together. Because you're in a weakened state from
Speaker 4: all three veils slending, and these are the things that
Speaker 4: they're here to test you on. And so it's how
Speaker 4: you respond and react to these things that mix things,
Speaker 4: and they also attack you in your dreams or come
Speaker 4: to you in your dreams, and so a lot of
Speaker 4: times people will see tall luminous beings or kind of
Speaker 4: like the creepy guy in the woods that you had
Speaker 4: to picture of within the cloak and whatever, hooded silhouettes,
Speaker 4: frozen or unmoving figures, and auditors with no emotion. And
Speaker 4: so they they're supposed to be coming in your dreams
Speaker 4: with these type of things to break warnings, judgments, prophecies
Speaker 4: and shadow compation. So is there something that you're supposed
Speaker 4: to be confronting from your past that's causing you to
Speaker 4: have weaknesses and.
Speaker 1: Things of that nature.
Speaker 4: So when that kind of thing happens, and when they
Speaker 4: come to you in your dreams, a lot of people
Speaker 4: will wake with chest pain or they feel like they're
Speaker 4: having a lot of fear or anxiety, or maybe something
Speaker 4: clarified or cleared up that they had questions on. They
Speaker 4: feel like they got a message. Hence the vivid, lucid
Speaker 4: dreaming and liminal spaces and all of that kind of stuff.
Speaker 4: And so if you have those kind of dreams in
Speaker 4: the winter, pay attention. And that's what like the journaling,
Speaker 4: it might not hurt to write those things down, so
Speaker 4: you know, like I just had to dream about this
Speaker 4: and then see if you can reconcile what it possibly means. So,
Speaker 4: winter anointing oils and ritual abuse, like we talked about earlier,
Speaker 4: it's more common in the wintertime, and they call it
Speaker 4: cold season rituals. So these are the psychoactive oils, the
Speaker 4: sedative herbs, disassociative smoke mixtures, and they do these things
Speaker 4: in the winter, kind of like we talked about with
Speaker 4: the Plan of the Cuckoos, because the victims are already
Speaker 4: more vulnerable.
Speaker 1: Winter makes people more vulnerable. We're in a weakened state.
Speaker 4: Your metabolism is slower, so you're going to be loop
Speaker 4: loo higher longer. Sedation hits harder because you're not eating
Speaker 4: properly and you're not metabolizing right, and so your illusions
Speaker 4: also get more intense. And these are where like the
Speaker 4: stories like the drug anointing oils, the false prophets or
Speaker 4: you know, angelic visitations, cold initiations. All of those kind
Speaker 4: of things are winter type stuff. So why does winter
Speaker 4: feel like someone is watching you? So humans evolved to
Speaker 4: be hyper vigilant in winter, and that's just a normal
Speaker 4: fact of our makeup and our being because you know,
Speaker 4: there wasn't enough food and all of those things, so
Speaker 4: hunter gatherers, and it's passed down from generation to generation.
Speaker 4: But winter also brought predators, starvation, weakened tribes. Lots of
Speaker 4: people died in the winter because again people get sick
Speaker 4: in the winter, and and so night dangers, you know,
Speaker 4: animals not being able to see because they didn't have
Speaker 4: lights and stuff.
Speaker 1: Then. So people.
Speaker 4: Already have those kind of things built into them from
Speaker 4: passed down generation to generation of what we expect. So
Speaker 4: our sentence, our senses are heightened, and so you feel
Speaker 4: like you're being watched because it's instinctual. It's already built
Speaker 4: into you. It's part of your narrow chemistry and you know,
Speaker 4: all the brain chemicals and stuff, ancient memory and spiritual heritage.
Speaker 4: So if you're dative of America or anything like that, especially,
Speaker 4: you're going to have that more sense of that kind
Speaker 4: of protection and things of predatory nature in the winter. Uh,
Speaker 4: so not to die well and definitely beware of your
Speaker 4: surroundings in the winter. If you've ever slipped on the
Speaker 4: ice and slid under your vehicle, you'll know not to
Speaker 4: do that again.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 4: And so it's kind of what I'm saying with like
Speaker 4: things happening.
Speaker 5: In your in your ancient.
Speaker 4: History past, right, that's passed down and those are things
Speaker 4: that you build on in your day to day life
Speaker 4: as well.
Speaker 1: Put the salt down, I'm lazy now.
Speaker 5: One hundred percent.
Speaker 4: So this is why winter encounters feel real because they
Speaker 4: are real. May not be in your lifetime, but they
Speaker 4: were real in your family's past, but across multiple dimensions
Speaker 4: of experience.
Speaker 1: O trippy. They definitely say that can happen. They've done
Speaker 1: studies on it. They've done studies on retained trauma, and
Speaker 1: so you come from a long line of trauma. You
Speaker 1: could literally be like terrified of spiders and not know why.
Speaker 1: And it's because like somebody and your family used to
Speaker 1: live in some area where they were constantly worried about
Speaker 1: dying from some poisonous spider. They've like done your studies
Speaker 1: on it and men carrying it in there, which actually
Speaker 1: blew me away. Carrying it in their sperm, these babies
Speaker 1: that were made from the men that came back from
Speaker 1: the wars. Yeah, but they like recirculate so quickly, like
Speaker 1: on there, I could see it for the eggs because
Speaker 1: they're in there forever. But like, yeah, no, guys too.
Speaker 4: So matters yep, it's epigenetics. And it's interesting when you
Speaker 4: dig into that topic, like what all we carry as
Speaker 4: memory cells through our body from from past stuff.
Speaker 1: Weird. Genetics are weird. They are very strict quit holding
Speaker 1: them back, Like, I mean, let's not. I don't know,
Speaker 1: they're already doing so much weird stuff, but I wish
Speaker 1: they would at least give us half of what they know.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm mh.
Speaker 4: So, uh, you might be able to get that during
Speaker 4: your winter initiation with the Latch.
Speaker 1: I'm going.
Speaker 4: They're here to reveal your shadow, test your resolve, force,
Speaker 4: enter alchemy, strip your ego, strengthen your spirit, expose hidden wounds.
Speaker 4: Oh well, I don't know that you would want to, Yeah,
Speaker 4: do that and guide awakenings and so uh. Spiritual warriors
Speaker 4: are forged in the dark, which is very true. And
Speaker 4: that's what I say to people all the time that
Speaker 4: are going through a lot of stuff that's really heavy,
Speaker 4: and I don't mean petty things. I mean like cereal.
Speaker 4: You're going through it because you are going to be
Speaker 4: forged of iron when you come out the other side.
Speaker 4: And so trials, our testaments are to our character. So
Speaker 4: the more that you go through, the more that your
Speaker 4: character builds. But if you're one of those people that
Speaker 4: is getting the winter initiation, obviously you have some areas
Speaker 4: or some holes like a sponge that you need to
Speaker 4: like block up and fill right, like missing grout or
Speaker 4: cocking in your shower. You need to make sure you
Speaker 4: take care of that. And that's the same for spiritual,
Speaker 4: physical and mental health. Oh, winter is not.
Speaker 5: A season.
Speaker 4: Bodily speaking, it's a consciousness field. And so winter compresses
Speaker 4: the mind, slows your body. Then's the ego some people
Speaker 4: need that amplifies the unconscious and awakens dormant senses. And
Speaker 4: so a lot of times in the winter as well,
Speaker 4: you don't respond to things consciously. You respond to things
Speaker 4: from your subconscious or unconscious unconscious memory, and so it's
Speaker 4: kind of like habit, right, and then that again can
Speaker 4: go back to family dramas and things like that. So anyway,
Speaker 4: summer is your sensory dominance area. That maybe that's why
Speaker 4: you don't like the summer.
Speaker 1: Hot. Yeah, I yeah that too, but I just I've
Speaker 1: never done good in the summer, just because I have
Speaker 1: autoimmune issues, and I just well, it's just as misery.
Speaker 1: I hate being too hot. Me too. I don't like
Speaker 1: being too cold either though. No, but you can always
Speaker 1: put on more clothes and you can only get so
Speaker 1: naked before you get arrested. That is that is very true.
Speaker 1: And don't.
Speaker 5: Yeah, don't get in your car that way because.
Speaker 1: No, no, and it doesn't help, right, Like you could
Speaker 1: get all the way naked, you still be hot. But
Speaker 1: if you're cold, usually you can get warm enough. I mean,
Speaker 1: you might not be comfy, but if you bundle up,
Speaker 1: you're not the worst. It's not the worst you've ever had.
Speaker 1: I should live in Alaska somewhere.
Speaker 4: So summer it's what we're both grounded, and we've feel
Speaker 4: more outward facing instead of doing that inward self, you know,
Speaker 4: thing that the watchers want us to do in the winter.
Speaker 4: So winter is more of your psychic dominance area, and
Speaker 4: so the physical made them, but the psychic brightens, and
Speaker 4: so you're high. You have high spiritual permeability in the winter,
Speaker 4: and so winter is an inversion of your consciousness and
Speaker 4: that creates an opening, and that's when the watchers step in.
Speaker 1: And so who knew? So I didn't. Yeah, I didn't either.
Speaker 4: And so who the watchers really are? And this comes
Speaker 4: for past religion and past myth. They're not angels and
Speaker 4: demons and ghosts and ancestors and all the things that
Speaker 4: we think they are. They are cosmic auditors and liminal
Speaker 4: regulator so dream world states things like that, and gatekeepers
Speaker 4: of thresholds, and so they are observed transition. They examine
Speaker 4: consciousness shifts and figure out why you are shifting. And
Speaker 4: there are beings.
Speaker 1: That may or may not be controlling my computer. It's
Speaker 1: going crazy, so it was mine. Oh there we go.
Speaker 4: Okay, I still don't see you. Yours is still spinning.
Speaker 1: Oh can you see me? Uh huh. It's like, oh,
Speaker 1: there you go. That was very good. Okay, they don't
Speaker 1: like it talking about this. Wow, of all the things, Yeah,
Speaker 1: who knew? Who knew that I was going to cause
Speaker 1: a problem.
Speaker 4: So again, because of all the things that happened in
Speaker 4: our body with the you know, on the metabolic level,
Speaker 4: and all the hormones and stuff like that that slow
Speaker 4: down and whatever. It's actually called a neuro a cult mechanism,
Speaker 4: which I did not know that either. I was like,
Speaker 4: what I'm learning, I'm learning all along with everyone else
Speaker 4: I had that was that was a thing. But occult
Speaker 4: means hidden, and so you're neural hidden mechanism. And so
Speaker 4: that is all of the things with the the metabolic slowing,
Speaker 4: the reduced ego function, sensory reduction.
Speaker 1: So.
Speaker 4: A lot of people, uh, get a lot of deja
Speaker 4: vu and the winter or time loop things or like
Speaker 4: we talked about before, like angelic numbers and and things
Speaker 4: like that or this, you know, sensing the presences and
Speaker 4: stuff like that, and so even your limbic system reduces,
Speaker 4: and so that's when you find the entity interpretations and
Speaker 4: stuff like that. So this is exact. This is the
Speaker 4: exact state that shamans introduce when they're doing their little trips.
Speaker 1: For you.
Speaker 4: Winter actually does it naturally. So again, if you're going
Speaker 4: for a trip, your body's already giving you a trip,
Speaker 4: and you're already making d MT.
Speaker 5: Show.
Speaker 4: If you're getting double DMT and double ensory perceptions and stuff.
Speaker 1: Double dose, you could screw yourself up.
Speaker 4: Yeah, hella hella, yeah, I don't you could get a
Speaker 4: double dosing of demon.
Speaker 1: Oh boy, that's good, just say it. Yeah. I'm telling
Speaker 1: you guys better better watch yourselves. You don't know what
Speaker 1: you're playing with. They said it was okay, but you
Speaker 1: know what they've said that about a lot of things.
Speaker 1: You miss the episodes with me and Jana on all
Speaker 1: the birth effects, well you might want to check that out.
Speaker 4: You know. And with that, with that shaman stuff and
Speaker 4: all of that. So, uh, the Winter Gate, there's a
Speaker 4: thing that they talk about in the occult and esoteric circles.
Speaker 4: Winter is when the lower veil fends, not the veil
Speaker 4: of the dead, but the veil of the subconscious collective.
Speaker 4: And this is when, and this is what they teach
Speaker 4: in the occult that this is when that you can
Speaker 4: get in touch with archetypal beings, ancestral memory fields, interdimensional watchers.
Speaker 4: Don't think again that I want to see the creepy
Speaker 4: guys en dormant psychic structures. The Wintergate is an annual
Speaker 4: reset of your consciousness. During this time, dreams of more
Speaker 4: prophetic intuition is louder, synchronicities accelerate, shadow figures become more defined,
Speaker 4: night visitations increase, internal voices sharpen, and tests occur.
Speaker 5: And so.
Speaker 4: Given that they're in occult and esoteric societies, they also
Speaker 4: call this the dark Night of the Soul. Yeah, the
Speaker 4: winter pilgrimage, the judgment season, or the long night vigil.
Speaker 1: So then we're about to come up on the shortest day,
Speaker 1: longest night that Janet just mentioned, the Dark Night of
Speaker 1: the Soul twenty first to twenty second signifying the sun's
Speaker 1: rebirth in Pagan and Wiccan Will of the Year, and
Speaker 1: the twelve nights mule from the twenty fifth to the sixth,
Speaker 1: which is why all of us conspiracy people when everything
Speaker 1: happened on the sixth, we went, yeah, now you know,
Speaker 1: it's all a potent liminal space for potent magic during
Speaker 1: those twelve nights. So and saturn Elia, if you don't
Speaker 1: really know why we celebrate Christmas, you can ruin your
Speaker 1: Christmas time and go look at that. Brandon has a
Speaker 1: lot to say about that. I think he's probably the
Speaker 1: best one that can tell everybody. And I have done
Speaker 1: episodes with Brandon Kroll or go check him out man
Speaker 1: a daily podcast, because he really does do an excellent
Speaker 1: job explaining all of this. Will it sort of ruin
Speaker 1: your Christmas? Well, I mean you find out of you.
Speaker 5: Holiday tradition.
Speaker 1: Yeah, still do the tradition, but you need to know.
Speaker 1: And I always tell my kids stuff like you do
Speaker 1: know Jesus was important now because like the tax season
Speaker 1: and did it and like you explain it, and you know,
Speaker 1: Brandon says, full cut off, full stop, don't do any
Speaker 1: of it, it's all bad. I'm like, well, for me,
Speaker 1: I'm just careful and knowledgeable, and don't put yourself in
Speaker 1: weird positions. The Dark Night of the Soul twice because
Speaker 1: you d emptied it and did a double demon dosme
Speaker 1: on double d yes exactly, that's triple double demon dos.
Speaker 4: So because you have this winter gate thing that happens
Speaker 4: within all these circles, right, the winter is the temporal
Speaker 4: gate between who you were and who you must become,
Speaker 4: hence the DMT trips and the Shamans and stuff like that,
Speaker 4: and and that's a thing where they want you to
Speaker 4: be enlightened and change. So they're literally putting you in
Speaker 4: that trance that your body goes into naturally anyway, so
Speaker 4: that you can evolve and change. But you don't need
Speaker 4: drugs because you can evolve and change on your own right.
Speaker 1: And you know, be just to not buy in at
Speaker 1: the highest occult time of the year. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: just my thoughts on the opinion, like, h if you've
Speaker 1: got the darkest night of the year, probably better maybe
Speaker 1: not to you know, no fucker find out.
Speaker 5: Yeah no, no.
Speaker 4: So there are three different classes of Winter entities. So
Speaker 4: we not only have the watchers, which are the observers
Speaker 4: that are neutral. They're here for basically record keeping, testers
Speaker 4: of integrity and all of that kind of thing. But
Speaker 4: then we have resurfaced shadows, and those are emanations of
Speaker 4: your own unconscious mind triggered by Winter's psychic inversion. So
Speaker 4: this can show up as shadow people, as doubles, as
Speaker 4: whispering entities, or as versions of you. Thank you, But
Speaker 4: there's only one of me. I don't need too there's.
Speaker 1: Two of me. It's because I spit in the tube
Speaker 1: and they made one in China, and you're about to
Speaker 1: have some bad back problems. All kinds of things are
Speaker 1: gonna be happening.
Speaker 4: So they're gonna study you. They're gonna study you and
Speaker 4: your in the genome, the genetic genome right, they can
Speaker 4: be like, how can we crisper this one out of here?
Speaker 1: All these I gotta really watch my younger one because
Speaker 1: you know what me and me, well half of me,
Speaker 1: that whole medici weird mirror BINGI in mine, and then
Speaker 1: I'm significantly attracted to Redheads. So I just want to
Speaker 1: watch my kids. That's all I'm saying. My two kids
Speaker 1: from the Redheads, I'm watching them cry on that.
Speaker 4: So these these resurfaced shadows, they are not external entities.
Speaker 4: They're your unpros unprocessed psyche taking form. So you're literally
Speaker 4: you're literally creating your own resurface shadow. People because of.
Speaker 1: This sounds I know we trip this research for this,
Speaker 1: but this sounds like Steiner. If you guys have never
Speaker 1: read Steiner, this is like just like Steiner or Young
Speaker 1: Carl Young, one of the two.
Speaker 4: So the next category is the parasites. And so these
Speaker 4: are opportunists that feed on fatigue, depression, addiction, trauma, and
Speaker 4: sleep paralysis. Of course, winter making people more vulnerable. The
Speaker 4: parasites know that and they exploit that. And this is
Speaker 4: where spiritual warfare feels real and personal. So the watchers
Speaker 4: are not allowed to stop them. They simply observe and
Speaker 4: see how you handle them. So kind of like we
Speaker 4: talked about the energy suckers, the energy vampires, parasites, and
Speaker 4: it is all about how you proceed in situations with
Speaker 4: parasitic people.
Speaker 1: So well, uh, well, let's remember this. We all fail sometimes, right,
Speaker 1: we can start again. Yeah, that's what you know, I mean.
Speaker 4: But that is literally the sanctification process that takes place
Speaker 4: in each one of us. Is that you know, like,
Speaker 4: if you're going to run headfirst into a brick wall,
Speaker 4: how many times are you going to run headfirst into
Speaker 4: a brick wall in the same exact situation before you
Speaker 4: learn your lesson and do something differently, And so it's
Speaker 4: no different than the way that we approach situations or
Speaker 4: approach people. There's a good and I can't remember what
Speaker 4: it's in, but it talks about dealing with difficult people
Speaker 4: and some difficult people because you have to have mercy
Speaker 4: and grace and kindness and patience and love. And sometimes
Speaker 4: when you're in a situation with a very difficult person,
Speaker 4: you may say something that you shouldn't have said.
Speaker 1: But then no, I didn't How did you know that?
Speaker 1: Just no, I may have been in that situation or
Speaker 1: time or two.
Speaker 4: So then you're supposed to reflect and be like, Okay,
Speaker 4: I didn't have enough patience. That's not the way I
Speaker 4: should have handled it. So you know better for next time.
Speaker 4: So it's like life lessons and learning. So that's all about.
Speaker 4: What the true purpose of the Winter spiritual warfare is
Speaker 4: is introspection.
Speaker 1: How can we be better?
Speaker 4: How can we hold ourselves accountable? Doing a little auditing
Speaker 4: of your soul?
Speaker 1: Are you believing in God? Are you living the way
Speaker 1: you're supposed to be.
Speaker 4: It's supposed to be healing for us and release our
Speaker 4: outdated identities because if we believe in God, we're supposed
Speaker 4: to die to God every day, right, and be reborn
Speaker 4: and renewed in our faith every day. So that's what
Speaker 4: the purpose of the Winter Watcher season is for.
Speaker 1: I hope this creeps everybody out because this whole shit
Speaker 1: about him being right next to us, And if you've
Speaker 1: ever read anything about Jewish mysticism, this your head.
Speaker 4: And if you look at some of the pictures, if
Speaker 4: you watch the video and look at some of the slides,
Speaker 4: you will understand, right, Yeah.
Speaker 1: That's an uncomfortable feeling. However, you know that whole. God's
Speaker 1: got us. That's that's true, and that's real. But also
Speaker 1: take care of yourself, like you cannot binge and be
Speaker 1: a crazy sugar aholic from Halloween to now and be like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm good, it's just not that's and that also changes
Speaker 1: people's behavior. So not only are we are we.
Speaker 4: Put in this season with the Watchers because we're supposed
Speaker 4: to compare our old self to our new self, illusions
Speaker 4: versus the real truth, numbness versus actual awakening. So don't
Speaker 4: be a frozen heart and trauma into transformation.
Speaker 1: So what.
Speaker 4: Do you want to stay a perpetual victim? Do you
Speaker 4: always want to be a victim of circumstances or do
Speaker 4: you want to introspect your introspectively look at yourself, know
Speaker 4: what needs to be done different and how you can
Speaker 4: move forward in the future without carrying that victimhood baggage.
Speaker 1: You can have something happen to you like I've had
Speaker 1: so many things happen to me, and Janet knows like
Speaker 1: a handful, not even everything. It's a lot. But that
Speaker 1: doesn't mean I choose to be a victim, which is
Speaker 1: why I called my show Unfiltered Rice. Because you can rise.
Speaker 1: You know a lot of people ask me that because
Speaker 1: it's kind of a weird It's not that it's not
Speaker 1: a cool name. It's kind of a weird name, but
Speaker 1: it's true. You can choose what you do with it,
Speaker 1: and you can help somebody else. That's what that was
Speaker 1: meant for, really, not that God made my stepdad beat
Speaker 1: me or something, but like I'm saying, do something with it,
Speaker 1: for Haaven's sake. It's already done.
Speaker 4: It's already and how you choose to move forward and
Speaker 4: deal with everyday life situation plays a big part in
Speaker 4: who your character is, and it's it's like a building block,
Speaker 4: and you're constantly building on that character, on that character.
Speaker 4: So if you're carrying around a suitcase of baggage with
Speaker 4: the victimhood cards, probably not a good thing because that
Speaker 4: could weigh you down and you're going to sink eventually,
Speaker 4: you know. So you need to start finding a better
Speaker 4: path forward and paving away with all this introspection and and.
Speaker 1: The one thing I don't think that they mentioned was forgiveness.
Speaker 1: You know, you mentioned it, you mentioned grace, But I
Speaker 1: don't think they look the this whole thing where they're
Speaker 1: teaching us this I'm like, okay, but also like the
Speaker 1: grace and forgiveness is huge because it's going to heal
Speaker 1: you more than probably the person that you're going to.
Speaker 4: Right and you can't you can't move past a situation
Speaker 4: without providing forgiveness for somebody, even if you don't tell
Speaker 4: them to their face, if you have it in your heart,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, that's that's a good step.
Speaker 4: And sometimes I will pray for forgiveness for other people
Speaker 4: that have told me stuff about something that happened to
Speaker 4: them or whatever, and I will pray that they are
Speaker 4: able to forgive that person that hurt them because I
Speaker 4: know that they're not at the point yet where they're
Speaker 4: able to so.
Speaker 1: Hurt people hurt people. And yeah, if you become the
Speaker 1: hurt person that helps somebody, that is so powerful, that
Speaker 1: is way better. So you can do that, you know,
Speaker 1: like Janet said, if you can't, you know, tell them
Speaker 1: or fix it right then. But like you should be
Speaker 1: working on the steps unless it's dangerous to fix that situation.
Speaker 1: Even then you can have that in your heart, like
Speaker 1: she said, if it is dangerous.
Speaker 4: Or something one hundred percent, because some people definitely would
Speaker 4: not be able to confront an abuser or an attacker
Speaker 4: or whatever.
Speaker 1: So those situations little different, Yeah.
Speaker 4: Definitely different. But yeah, and I like to think of
Speaker 4: it this way. Even if you see somebody that you
Speaker 4: love and they're totally messing up, right, and you try
Speaker 4: to tell them in a nice way, like hey, you know,
Speaker 4: you should really think about the way that you come
Speaker 4: across or you know, think about the way that that
Speaker 4: made so and so feel or whatever.
Speaker 5: You're not doing it to be a know it all or.
Speaker 4: Busy body or whatever. We are called to use tough love.
Speaker 4: God wants us to tell the truth to people, right,
Speaker 4: and sometimes telling people the truth.
Speaker 1: It's not easy for them to hear.
Speaker 4: But at one point, you know or another, your words
Speaker 4: are going to echo in their head. They're going to
Speaker 4: replay that, and maybe that will make them think, oh
Speaker 4: my gosh, like I really shouldn't have said that, I
Speaker 4: shouldn't have done that, should have been better.
Speaker 1: So anyway, exactly, yes, try and fix the fences, you know,
Speaker 1: if it's just somebody in your family that you could
Speaker 1: fix it with, and you know the difference between you
Speaker 1: know two. I always look at this time of year
Speaker 1: as much fun as we have as a family, we
Speaker 1: have a whole because it's going on seven years. This
Speaker 1: is when it happened right right before Christmas time, and
Speaker 1: you know, it's hard. That's a really hard situation where
Speaker 1: instead she could do a hundred other things, give bound trice,
Speaker 1: do all this other stuff whatever, like we're talking about,
Speaker 1: because the funny part is is her being mad at
Speaker 1: me has created sin for her because she's hurt all
Speaker 1: these other people, not me, not even me my kids.
Speaker 1: Like you got to really look at what you're doing.
Speaker 5: Yeah, right, one hundred percent.
Speaker 4: But a lot of people it's very hard for them
Speaker 4: to have that introspective moment or to let down their
Speaker 4: ego to be like.
Speaker 5: Oh, you know what, I was kind of like a
Speaker 5: total shit.
Speaker 1: I probably shouldn't have thought about that. A lot of
Speaker 1: people even if I can't do that, even if you
Speaker 1: felt totally justified and you know, that situation changed, which
Speaker 1: is where I mean, that's fine, you know, come together,
Speaker 1: have a discussion, like I hate that people are just like, oh, garbage,
Speaker 1: toxic person, you're exiled off the planet. Well it's a
Speaker 1: good thing God doesn't treat you like that.
Speaker 4: And it is it is very difficult to allow toxic
Speaker 4: people in your life and not you know whatever. But
Speaker 4: I will say even for me, for my situation goes
Speaker 4: people that know no my father, but you know, with us,
Speaker 4: I made an effort multiple times and then I've left
Speaker 4: it at that because it's kind of like the ball
Speaker 4: is in his court.
Speaker 1: Same thing with my line. But if he reached out
Speaker 1: to you, you wouldn't forsake him. It's different because I've
Speaker 1: tried and I've tried, and I've tried, and I've tried
Speaker 1: you know, thank gifts and sorry letters and cards and things,
Speaker 1: and you know, I've changed a lot, and even my
Speaker 1: other kids have let her know, like Mom is a
Speaker 1: lot different person.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 1: You you should talk to mom, like you know, and
Speaker 1: she's just like, no, I forgive her by Like, Okay,
Speaker 1: that's great for you and your little life over here,
Speaker 1: but someday you might be judged on what you did
Speaker 1: to others in this family well.
Speaker 4: And also think about if she doesn't have that little
Speaker 4: her little bubble that she's living in right now, then posh, yeah,
Speaker 4: right then.
Speaker 1: What And it's not about just me, like I think,
Speaker 1: it's the whole family dynamic. And I only bring this
Speaker 1: up because I know a lot of people like even
Speaker 1: Janet is going through like this with her dad, Like
Speaker 1: this is happening to families everywhere, and I think it's
Speaker 1: by design. Now she can't do anything because she I mean,
Speaker 1: she's like, hey, I'm here, Hello, I'm here, like she would,
Speaker 1: but he won't. So you can't force that. But if
Speaker 1: there's and that's where I'm at right with my kids, right, yep,
Speaker 1: I don't want to force anything because then you're that's
Speaker 1: wrong too, right, you know, But I will every now
Speaker 1: and again remind her and I have had a couple
Speaker 1: of chances where we gotten deep, deep shit because the
Speaker 1: phone was thrust at me and I didn't want to
Speaker 1: take it because I respect the boundaries. I want to
Speaker 1: show her that I can do that. Right. It's been
Speaker 1: a really long time, and apparently that didn't matter. But anyway,
Speaker 1: you know, I did say I love you and that
Speaker 1: will never change and my door will never be shut
Speaker 1: because I am your mother and I love you, not
Speaker 1: because i'm proud or I think I'm right. I think
Speaker 1: there's a lot I'm wrong, you know, with that whole thing.
Speaker 4: But we can admit that because yeah.
Speaker 1: We're at that point where we're like, oh you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: I shouldn't have been as in their business, like I
Speaker 1: should have let go, like we were both individuating, Like
Speaker 1: I get it, but you don't have to do it
Speaker 1: like that. And as for her husband's same thing, he
Speaker 1: could have been proactively positive instead of proactively negative. I
Speaker 1: was faced with that same decision later in my life
Speaker 1: where my husband was very upset with his family. And
Speaker 1: they don't treat me amazing, Okay, they're not cruel or anything.
Speaker 1: They just don't like that I'm an apostate, you know,
Speaker 1: they don't kind of frozen heart people. Right, Yeah, they
Speaker 1: don't want to open up, but they're not mean. I
Speaker 1: want to be clear, like they're they don't treat me mean,
Speaker 1: they don't treat me. It's just not anything because I
Speaker 1: don't think they want to get to know me on
Speaker 1: that level because of the church, honestly, you know. And
Speaker 1: and that's okay, but I still have the choice to
Speaker 1: say no. There was a really bad time where I
Speaker 1: could have said screw them, and I was like, no, never, never, never.
Speaker 1: This is worth some time, this is worth a letter,
Speaker 1: this is worth a discussion, but this is not worth
Speaker 1: your family. So and you go shovel the walk because
Speaker 1: your parents are old. I'm always like, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: We don't forsake each other, especially our parents. If you
Speaker 1: can help it in old age, if they chuck you out,
Speaker 1: I don't know what you do with that, But I
Speaker 1: don't know what to do there. But you know, if
Speaker 1: you can try that and they'll receive it, right, it's
Speaker 1: just as much to receive rights. So but if you
Speaker 1: can only do one part of it, I don't know.
Speaker 4: You know, just as long as as long as you
Speaker 4: make the concerted effort, then you know that you have tried.
Speaker 4: And and like you said, whether they receive it or not,
Speaker 4: that's that's not a that's not a you problem, that's them, right.
Speaker 1: That's a frustrating thing, you know, because other lives are
Speaker 1: being affected. Like on your situation, it's a little different
Speaker 1: because he's so much older, but they're having kids and
Speaker 1: and more kids even now I just heard, you know,
Speaker 1: and it's so sad because I'm like, Okay, my mom
Speaker 1: once told ask me, this is the last time I'll
Speaker 1: get off my little soapbox. She said, who was your
Speaker 1: most protected person? Who did you go to the most
Speaker 1: you know, who did you feel like you could talk to?
Speaker 1: And I didn't want to tell her because I knew
Speaker 1: it was the one person she couldn't have any of
Speaker 1: that with because it was her father and he wasn't
Speaker 1: like that for her. And he wasn't. I mean, he
Speaker 1: was fifteen when they become parents. You know, he was
Speaker 1: an idiot, you know what I mean, And so he
Speaker 1: made all these horrible mistakes. And if my mom had
Speaker 1: chucked him out of her life, I would have missed
Speaker 1: out on the one person in my life I ever
Speaker 1: felt a hundred person understood me.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 1: He was my guy. And I told her, I said, oh,
Speaker 1: I feel so bad for this because it's the one
Speaker 1: person you struggle with, you know, And she said, it's okay.
Speaker 1: And it's because he didn't do it for me. He
Speaker 1: told me when you were born he was going to
Speaker 1: do it for you, and he did. And you know,
Speaker 1: people change.
Speaker 4: Right, and it's definitely possible to do that. But you
Speaker 4: know that's why. And and a lot of people may
Speaker 4: think like this whole thing sounds woo woo and crazy
Speaker 4: and whatever, even though it's scripturally based and Greek culture
Speaker 4: talks about this kind of stuff. It's it's us having
Speaker 4: the ability to not only see our actions but to
Speaker 4: kind of see into the future and that ripple effect
Speaker 4: that what we do, how that effect matters.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it matters clear into your DNA, it really
Speaker 1: And every kid I've ever known that's been adopted, for
Speaker 1: an example, goes and finds where they came from. Even
Speaker 1: if they don't necessarily want a whole new family, they
Speaker 1: kind of want to know what's up there, right, like
Speaker 1: they kind of want to see. And I know that
Speaker 1: will happen one day with my granddaughter, and at that point,
Speaker 1: you know, she'll judge me for herself, and then you
Speaker 1: may have some answerings to do because you chose to
Speaker 1: do what you did. And it's not a threat, it's
Speaker 1: just a thought, right, and you know I can't maybe
Speaker 1: not maybe she'll tell me to kick rocks. That would
Speaker 1: it is very possible. But I just feel like if
Speaker 1: we all were better people in the challenge, what Janet's
Speaker 1: talking about in the Winter Challenge, then you know, we
Speaker 1: can obviously make the world.
Speaker 4: Better, right one hundred percent. And it, like I said,
Speaker 4: it all boils down to how we can change to
Speaker 4: be better, to do better, to think better, to act better,
Speaker 4: and how those actions affect other people.
Speaker 1: So yes, yeah, especially in these dark, dark, spooky times
Speaker 1: where the demons are right by you exactly.
Speaker 4: Got you.
Speaker 1: Got your nose had to do something, So my beautiful love,
Speaker 1: where can they find you at? Thank you so much,
Speaker 1: miss Janet, and even I got emotional, almost shed a
Speaker 1: couple of tears. Always gets me on that. I'm Heidilove
Speaker 1: of the Unfiltered Rice. I'm everywhere podcasts are served. I
Speaker 1: do have my own website and Filtered Rice podcast dot com,
Speaker 1: so you can find me there if you can't find
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Speaker 1: I started talking about money and the Mormons own it.
Speaker 1: Oh sorry, but they do. So I didn't know. Okay,
Speaker 1: I didn't know that. Uh yeah, so clearly they might
Speaker 1: have heard a couple of shows anyways, So for that,
Speaker 1: you can find me there. I'm also on YouTube. It's
Speaker 1: less times per week and I'm pretty active on exposing
Speaker 1: a lot of financial shenanigans on Twitter and I G
Speaker 1: so you can find me Unfiltered rise all the way
Speaker 1: across the board, Miss Jenny, where can you find find wait?
Speaker 5: Wait? Wait?
Speaker 1: Oh my Patreon. Yes I do, and you're probably watching
Speaker 1: this there. I always forget the Patreon. Why do I forget?
Speaker 1: That's where it's most important. You guys obviously care about
Speaker 1: me enough to put up with my shit double and
Speaker 1: so and for that, I'm so grateful because and it's
Speaker 1: toward the end of the year, so I just want
Speaker 1: to say, I'm so grateful for all my supporters. Anytime
Speaker 1: you guys comment, any anybody that reaches out like that,
Speaker 1: and especially the people on my patreon, so uh, it
Speaker 1: doesn't go unnoticed. I'm super grateful for all of that.
Speaker 1: And you know, I'm going to try and think up
Speaker 1: something awesome to help back. I think I do give
Speaker 1: the two extra shows a month by I'm rolling around
Speaker 1: some ideas for the first of the year, so I
Speaker 1: bet they're going to be gooicy ones. I hope, I
Speaker 1: hope so. And Miss Janet, where can they find you?
Speaker 4: You can find Deplorable Nation on every podcast platform, or
Speaker 4: if you want to watch the videos, you watch it
Speaker 4: on Spotify or on Rubble. And if you want to
Speaker 4: hit me up, you can find me on Instagram at
Speaker 4: deplorable Janet or on Twitter at no Janet kW So
Speaker 4: for me and for my beautiful, intelligent, lovely, amazing bestie,
Speaker 4: thank you for tuning in for another episode.
Speaker 1: Sorry, we are a little cuckoo crazy, but are we really?
Speaker 4: No, not really, that's just the way the cookie crumbles, right,
Speaker 4: So for me and for Heidi, thanks for tuning in
Speaker 4: and we will see you next time.
Speaker 1: Have a brilliant, brilliant day.