WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.480 --> 00:00:03.120 Welcome forward to the Jesse Jackson Junior Show on ABLA 2 00:00:03.240 --> 00:00:07.000 Talk fifteen eighty. It is Wealthy Wednesdays on the Jesse 3 00:00:07.080 --> 00:00:11.919 Jackson Junior Show Worldwide with E. L. Silva. Doctor Silva 4 00:00:11.960 --> 00:00:16.839 has over twenty years experience a background to re media 5 00:00:17.199 --> 00:00:24.079 and negotiation. He's taught polities international relations in several graduate 6 00:00:24.440 --> 00:00:27.839 and undergraduate programs at universities in New York, New Jersey, 7 00:00:27.879 --> 00:00:31.679 Long Island and Queen's University of Belfast and Northern Ireland. 8 00:00:32.039 --> 00:00:37.079 Doctor de Silva's publications include post postmodern insurgencies, political violence, 9 00:00:37.119 --> 00:00:41.600 identity formation and peacemaking and comparative Perspective. He's an experienced 10 00:00:41.600 --> 00:00:44.320 director with a demonstrated history of working in think tanks, 11 00:00:44.399 --> 00:00:49.200 industry and academia, the United Nations political and military affairs, 12 00:00:50.119 --> 00:00:54.399 and he's skilled in research, political risk analysis, geostrategy, cultural diplomacy, 13 00:00:54.479 --> 00:00:59.119 humanitarian action and global affairs involving war affected deeply divided societies. 14 00:00:59.119 --> 00:01:02.000 Doctor de Silva, Forward to the Jesse Jackson Junior Show 15 00:01:02.039 --> 00:01:04.680 and to your show worldwide with p LDA Silva. 16 00:01:05.519 --> 00:01:07.000 Thank you, Jesse, glad to be on. 17 00:01:08.000 --> 00:01:11.760 You know. I was looking at Senator Ed Markey who 18 00:01:11.840 --> 00:01:15.200 offered a resolution to have the President of the United 19 00:01:15.239 --> 00:01:19.480 States removed by virtue of the twenty fifth Amendment, that 20 00:01:19.640 --> 00:01:23.040 is the Incapacity Amendment. And before the show began, you 21 00:01:23.079 --> 00:01:26.920 began talking about others who have suggested that the President 22 00:01:26.959 --> 00:01:31.000 of the United States in this hour is unhinged. His 23 00:01:31.159 --> 00:01:34.200 mental health is clearly on full display. Peel. 24 00:01:35.519 --> 00:01:38.920 Yes, it's a sad place for the United States to 25 00:01:39.000 --> 00:01:42.760 be in that you have somebody with so much power, 26 00:01:43.760 --> 00:01:51.840 and unfortunately it's not logical, it's not rational, and all 27 00:01:51.879 --> 00:01:58.079 of this doesn't board well for the future. And twenty 28 00:01:58.120 --> 00:02:01.280 twenty six is good to be a come to Jesus' 29 00:02:01.280 --> 00:02:06.640 time for Donald Trump with the midterm elections in November, 30 00:02:07.280 --> 00:02:11.039 and I do believe that the Republicans tend to lose 31 00:02:11.560 --> 00:02:14.199 the House and the Senate and then there'll be a 32 00:02:14.240 --> 00:02:17.719 whole load of trouble for Trump. And he's been saying 33 00:02:17.759 --> 00:02:21.199 that he's going to get impeached and to please get 34 00:02:21.240 --> 00:02:22.000 out the vote. 35 00:02:22.680 --> 00:02:25.960 But yeah, he. 36 00:02:26.039 --> 00:02:29.919 Might not last that long if he continues in this fashion, 37 00:02:30.120 --> 00:02:35.759 fighting with you know, our long term allies, and being 38 00:02:35.879 --> 00:02:40.879 so fractious with regard to international relations and international policies 39 00:02:41.439 --> 00:02:46.120 over Greenland. You know, it just doesn't look it's so ugly. 40 00:02:46.599 --> 00:02:49.800 You know, he's the quintessential ugly American. 41 00:02:50.960 --> 00:02:53.120 And that is that's quite a statement to make about 42 00:02:53.120 --> 00:02:56.120 the President of the United States, but that's in a 43 00:02:56.159 --> 00:02:59.439 real sense. As we commemorate the two hundred and fiftith 44 00:02:59.439 --> 00:03:03.319 anniversary of the Declaration of Independence, Donald Trump in terms 45 00:03:03.360 --> 00:03:06.000 of values, in terms of core beliefs, in terms of 46 00:03:06.039 --> 00:03:09.800 the direction of fundamental human rights, he has really become 47 00:03:09.879 --> 00:03:15.919 and emerged as the correct, quitet essential American. That he 48 00:03:16.120 --> 00:03:20.960 is the sum of everything that we are as a nation. 49 00:03:21.319 --> 00:03:24.159 And that reckoning that you're saying could very well occur 50 00:03:24.199 --> 00:03:27.680 in twenty twenty six is when the American people's values 51 00:03:28.120 --> 00:03:31.960 at the ballot box, whether or not they conform or 52 00:03:32.039 --> 00:03:36.240 confront the president's values and the direction that they have 53 00:03:36.280 --> 00:03:37.599 and the beliefs that they have for the future of 54 00:03:37.599 --> 00:03:41.919 our nation. Peel, I can't applaud you more for that 55 00:03:42.039 --> 00:03:45.080 accurate analysis. I also want to welcome into our program 56 00:03:45.159 --> 00:03:49.280 James Felton Keith Award winning engineer economist who was the 57 00:03:49.280 --> 00:03:53.520 first black LGBTQQ person to run for the US Congress. 58 00:03:53.879 --> 00:03:56.840 He lectures at the New York University in the Big 59 00:03:56.879 --> 00:04:00.479 Ideas Course series. As an author and activist, his data 60 00:04:00.599 --> 00:04:04.639 unions We've redefined the labor movement and personal data as 61 00:04:04.639 --> 00:04:09.240 the neutral resource driving all corporate productivity. As an entrepreneur, 62 00:04:09.280 --> 00:04:13.080 he established the first international standard certification for corporate diversity 63 00:04:13.080 --> 00:04:17.560 and inclusion. His biopolitical philosophy, Inclusionism, is at the forefront 64 00:04:17.600 --> 00:04:21.240 of human rights advocacy and international relations, and each week 65 00:04:21.240 --> 00:04:24.480 he hosts the radio show Inclusionism in New York City. 66 00:04:24.720 --> 00:04:27.399 James Felton Keith, Welcome forward to Jesse Jackson Junior Show. 67 00:04:27.959 --> 00:04:29.519 Thanks for having me, Thanks for having me. 68 00:04:29.519 --> 00:04:34.160 Guys and worldwide with p LD Silva, we've begun the conversation. 69 00:04:34.279 --> 00:04:36.600 Of course, we'll dig into deeper issues when we come 70 00:04:36.639 --> 00:04:41.160 forward at the eleven minute of the hour mark. But James, 71 00:04:41.160 --> 00:04:43.319 I want to ask you a question about your sense 72 00:04:44.639 --> 00:04:48.759 of the president's mental health, his capacity and his ability 73 00:04:48.800 --> 00:04:50.120 to perform the functions of the job. 74 00:04:51.199 --> 00:04:54.759 Well, I've been watching his west speech at the Ward 75 00:04:54.759 --> 00:04:58.959 Economic Forum, and a lot of his team members box 76 00:05:00.000 --> 00:05:03.199 earlier today and as they built up towards yesterday. 77 00:05:04.040 --> 00:05:06.879 Look, I think for there have been a lot of psychologists. 78 00:05:06.920 --> 00:05:08.959 I'm an economist, not a psychologist, but there have been 79 00:05:09.000 --> 00:05:11.720 a lot of psychologists to talk about how bad off 80 00:05:11.759 --> 00:05:13.600 he is for the past. 81 00:05:13.279 --> 00:05:16.160 Few years, but I think his team is using it 82 00:05:16.199 --> 00:05:17.000 to their advantage. 83 00:05:17.079 --> 00:05:20.360 I do think that his mental health has been degraded, 84 00:05:21.519 --> 00:05:25.639 for lack of better words, but I think that it 85 00:05:25.720 --> 00:05:29.480 is a strategic opportunity by the people who are behind him, 86 00:05:29.839 --> 00:05:35.439 specifically the thinkers at institutions like the Hoover Institute, the 87 00:05:35.519 --> 00:05:36.519 Cato Institute. 88 00:05:37.759 --> 00:05:41.319 They are using his dogged nature to. 89 00:05:43.199 --> 00:05:48.839 Steamroll over people, to steamroll over countries, rather to redesign 90 00:05:48.839 --> 00:05:54.560 the global order and you know, renew poles if you will, Russian, 91 00:05:54.959 --> 00:05:56.800 Chinese and American pole. 92 00:05:57.279 --> 00:05:58.399 I actually spent this. 93 00:05:58.360 --> 00:06:01.279 Morning on one with a bunch of the French leaders 94 00:06:01.639 --> 00:06:06.839 who both talk about how he postured himself versus their 95 00:06:07.199 --> 00:06:12.079 prime ministers and presidents respectively, even poking fun and laughing 96 00:06:12.160 --> 00:06:16.680 at McCrone earlier this morning. So look, I think Trump 97 00:06:16.759 --> 00:06:19.959 is definitely deranged, but I think we've always thought that 98 00:06:20.519 --> 00:06:24.839 so much so that social media, in these bot farms, 99 00:06:24.879 --> 00:06:28.560 are running bots against us to claim that anyone who 100 00:06:28.680 --> 00:06:32.240 challenges the president's current state have what they will call 101 00:06:32.360 --> 00:06:34.399 Trump derangement syndrome. 102 00:06:34.639 --> 00:06:35.480 And it's really bait. 103 00:06:36.199 --> 00:06:39.759 It's a switching of our language, our formal language, about 104 00:06:39.800 --> 00:06:43.680 where he is to claim that apparently the masses of 105 00:06:43.800 --> 00:06:49.800 us are deranged by thinking that his general presentation is dangerous. 106 00:06:49.839 --> 00:06:51.600 It's going to get people killed. 107 00:06:52.079 --> 00:06:54.560 I'm Jesse Jackson Junior listening to Jesse Jackson Junior Show 108 00:06:54.560 --> 00:06:57.040 on KBO they talk fifteen to eighty. This is Worldwide 109 00:06:57.040 --> 00:06:59.120 with Peel de Silva and our very special guest James 110 00:06:59.160 --> 00:07:03.480 Felton Keith. More we come forward on kbla talk Junior 111 00:07:04.560 --> 00:07:12.720 that's a junior jobs and a very special guest in 112 00:07:12.759 --> 00:07:16.040 this hour is none other than James Felton Keith. I 113 00:07:16.040 --> 00:07:17.519 do have a couple of questions that I like to 114 00:07:17.519 --> 00:07:22.079 begin our program formerly with, and that is, if you 115 00:07:22.079 --> 00:07:24.720 don't mind doctor de Silva sharing with us some of 116 00:07:24.759 --> 00:07:28.480 your thoughts on the proper and appropriate commemoration in this 117 00:07:28.639 --> 00:07:31.560 hour of Martin Luther King Jr. 118 00:07:34.279 --> 00:07:41.040 A great American and a great human being and a 119 00:07:41.079 --> 00:07:47.639 wonderful leader who has said so many things that are 120 00:07:48.639 --> 00:07:53.079 extremely pertinent for us today as we live in this 121 00:07:53.319 --> 00:07:58.360 fractious society that has become America, and I think there 122 00:07:58.360 --> 00:08:01.399 are so many lessons that we can learn as we 123 00:08:01.439 --> 00:08:05.000 go forward, and the civil rights movement and Martin Luther 124 00:08:05.120 --> 00:08:10.439 King a part and parcel of the fabric of what 125 00:08:10.639 --> 00:08:12.959 makes America truly great. 126 00:08:14.399 --> 00:08:19.680 James Keith, Yeah, definitely, I echo what brother Pellis said. 127 00:08:20.920 --> 00:08:25.639 What I would say is in remembering MLK is how 128 00:08:25.680 --> 00:08:29.199 he was received older at the time of his death 129 00:08:29.480 --> 00:08:32.759 in nineteen sixty eight, A lot of America did not 130 00:08:33.120 --> 00:08:37.799 like to hear that he was that we still have 131 00:08:37.919 --> 00:08:42.960 to speak now in this news. So in an effort 132 00:08:43.000 --> 00:08:48.159 to not repeat our own things, I'd encourage everyone to 133 00:08:48.159 --> 00:08:51.320 search their history, look up some of his own speeches, 134 00:08:51.720 --> 00:08:54.519 but also look at the poet and how he was 135 00:08:54.600 --> 00:08:56.399 received last year. 136 00:09:04.279 --> 00:09:09.440 Somebody's touching something, whatever you're doing, don't touch it. Yeah, yeah, 137 00:09:09.519 --> 00:09:10.600 I'm sorry. 138 00:09:10.600 --> 00:09:15.080 But yeah now, yeah, Look, we're getting ready to move 139 00:09:15.120 --> 00:09:18.440 into February and you know, hopefully have a whole month 140 00:09:18.519 --> 00:09:24.360 to reflect on again how MLK was treated in his 141 00:09:24.440 --> 00:09:26.399 last days. But again I would encourage everyone to go 142 00:09:26.480 --> 00:09:29.759 back and look at the polling of how MLK was 143 00:09:29.840 --> 00:09:34.120 received in nineteen sixty eight. And again it has not 144 00:09:34.240 --> 00:09:36.240 lost on me that he was not even a forty 145 00:09:36.320 --> 00:09:38.559 year old man when he was assassinated. 146 00:09:38.759 --> 00:09:40.200 You know, I want to comment on this for just 147 00:09:40.240 --> 00:09:42.159 a moment and reflect on it, and then I have 148 00:09:42.240 --> 00:09:45.960 some more probing questions because James Felton Keith is also 149 00:09:46.120 --> 00:09:48.840 in a campaign for Congress, and I want to find 150 00:09:48.840 --> 00:09:50.840 out what he's finding out on the campaign trail, what 151 00:09:50.879 --> 00:09:53.120 he has learned so far. But before I get there, 152 00:09:53.159 --> 00:09:56.080 I want to comment on the character of doctor King, 153 00:09:56.919 --> 00:10:00.440 and from my perspective, the christ like character. It's easy 154 00:10:00.440 --> 00:10:01.960 for those of us who are Christians who go to 155 00:10:02.039 --> 00:10:05.559 church and say Jesus carried the sins of the world. 156 00:10:06.799 --> 00:10:11.080 Jesus carried the weight and the burden of the world, 157 00:10:12.600 --> 00:10:17.279 But we never talk about Jesus's mental state, and who 158 00:10:17.320 --> 00:10:21.840 was willing to carry the weight of the world could 159 00:10:21.919 --> 00:10:25.519 easily find himself and probably regularly found himself in some 160 00:10:25.720 --> 00:10:31.279 garden of gethesemone, some depression, some deep dark space, and 161 00:10:31.360 --> 00:10:34.200 of course he elevated out of that deep dark space 162 00:10:34.960 --> 00:10:38.720 into the kind of leader that we've come to appreciate 163 00:10:38.840 --> 00:10:43.320 and a moral leader, son of God, and all the 164 00:10:43.639 --> 00:10:47.320 attributes that we give to the man who emerged out 165 00:10:47.320 --> 00:10:51.080 of that deep dark space. When I think about Martin 166 00:10:51.120 --> 00:10:54.840 Luther King Junior, and I'll say this very quickly, we 167 00:10:54.919 --> 00:10:59.600 don't fully appreciate the nature of his personal suffering is 168 00:11:00.480 --> 00:11:08.519 to understand suffering of other people. And I can only think, James, 169 00:11:08.519 --> 00:11:11.639 that in this moment, we don't have the kind of 170 00:11:11.759 --> 00:11:15.159 leadership today that actually is capable of saying it's my fault. 171 00:11:16.639 --> 00:11:21.200 It's my fault to own the behavior of what's going wrong. 172 00:11:22.120 --> 00:11:26.159 I was reflecting upon conversation I had earlier with some 173 00:11:26.200 --> 00:11:29.440 of my own friends who were talking about high property 174 00:11:29.480 --> 00:11:31.759 taxes and high this and high that, and I found 175 00:11:31.799 --> 00:11:34.840 myself slipping because some of it. I said to myself, 176 00:11:34.879 --> 00:11:42.120 it's my fault that I will that I wasn't in 177 00:11:42.159 --> 00:11:45.039 a position to do something about it. In other words, 178 00:11:45.240 --> 00:11:47.639 I'm not prepared to kick the can down the road 179 00:11:48.120 --> 00:11:51.960 or blame somebody else. I had solutions that I wanted 180 00:11:52.000 --> 00:11:54.840 to bring forward to take the burden off of people, 181 00:11:55.120 --> 00:11:57.799 and the fact that those solutions have not been completed, 182 00:11:57.960 --> 00:12:00.639 it's my fault. And I wish I could hear more 183 00:12:00.639 --> 00:12:05.919 from Congressman James Keith, from senators and from presidents, and 184 00:12:05.960 --> 00:12:11.519 from moral leaders who own their role that they've played, 185 00:12:11.639 --> 00:12:14.799 not just in preaching to us, but acknowledging that some 186 00:12:14.840 --> 00:12:17.159 of what, and maybe even more than some of what, 187 00:12:17.480 --> 00:12:19.799 a significant amount of what's going wrong in our world. 188 00:12:20.039 --> 00:12:23.919 It's our fault and Perry the burden of the world. 189 00:12:24.200 --> 00:12:28.759 James Felton Keith. That is the beginning of the moral 190 00:12:28.840 --> 00:12:31.799 crusade that I think Martin Luther King Junior is identified 191 00:12:31.840 --> 00:12:32.960 with James Felton Keith. 192 00:12:33.720 --> 00:12:35.080 Yeah, No, I totally agree. 193 00:12:35.080 --> 00:12:38.000 One thing I like to say, even if if we 194 00:12:38.559 --> 00:12:41.080 put ourselves up for leadership roles, one of the burdens 195 00:12:41.120 --> 00:12:45.679 of leadership is, even if it's a community's fault or 196 00:12:46.039 --> 00:12:50.639 a systematic fault, it is necessary for the leader to 197 00:12:50.799 --> 00:12:52.799 absorb some of that blame. 198 00:12:52.960 --> 00:12:53.200 You know. 199 00:12:53.279 --> 00:12:55.399 A quote that I like to use a lot is 200 00:12:55.440 --> 00:13:01.080 that we are responsible yet not guilty. It is necessary 201 00:13:01.159 --> 00:13:05.120 for society to reckon with itself, for communities, whether they 202 00:13:05.200 --> 00:13:08.480 be small or large, to reckon with themselves by assuming 203 00:13:08.720 --> 00:13:11.639 some level of responsibility, even if they exist in a 204 00:13:12.360 --> 00:13:17.240 broader system that might be more guilty of their current state. 205 00:13:17.559 --> 00:13:20.159 I think that one thing that MLK was available to do, 206 00:13:20.960 --> 00:13:23.000 one thing he was available to do in the Vein 207 00:13:23.080 --> 00:13:26.799 of Jesus and what Jesus's story is told, that he 208 00:13:26.879 --> 00:13:32.120 was available to do was to absorb a lot. 209 00:13:31.919 --> 00:13:34.000 Of that responsibility. 210 00:13:34.720 --> 00:13:39.120 And the problem with the leadership that we have available, 211 00:13:39.159 --> 00:13:41.879 not only in this country but in most places these days, 212 00:13:42.720 --> 00:13:48.279 is that they're not available to absorb and acknowledge the 213 00:13:48.360 --> 00:13:53.639 responsibility that we have as custodians of this place, of 214 00:13:53.679 --> 00:13:55.279 this planet, of each other. 215 00:13:55.919 --> 00:13:58.679 It's a moral calling, and quite frankly, the. 216 00:13:58.759 --> 00:14:03.600 Morality that used to exist in not only American politics 217 00:14:03.600 --> 00:14:06.559 but other politics seems to have gone away. 218 00:14:07.519 --> 00:14:10.080 And we've been replaced by a blame culture. 219 00:14:10.559 --> 00:14:13.879 If you want what's pointing, there's that spider Man meme 220 00:14:13.960 --> 00:14:18.960 that everyone used, where everyone's blaming everyone else. Quite frankly, 221 00:14:19.080 --> 00:14:23.960 I'll just add, I think when leaders are available to 222 00:14:24.039 --> 00:14:28.960 absorb responsibility, I think that their followers, their community, their 223 00:14:29.039 --> 00:14:33.399 voters are more than willing to work with them to 224 00:14:33.440 --> 00:14:37.759 see that, to see the humanity in that Trump is 225 00:14:38.279 --> 00:14:40.559 as to having the loudest microphone, not only in the 226 00:14:40.639 --> 00:14:43.720 United States but on the planet. Right now, it's teaching 227 00:14:43.759 --> 00:14:47.159 a generation that you can get away with just finger 228 00:14:47.200 --> 00:14:51.080 pointing and accepting no blame for anything. And it may 229 00:14:51.120 --> 00:14:53.399 not seem like it, but it is trickling down to 230 00:14:53.559 --> 00:14:56.480 the leaders on the right and the left, where everyone 231 00:14:56.559 --> 00:15:00.559 is just pointing, and it's turning into such solation banter 232 00:15:01.440 --> 00:15:05.360 around how we actually fix the problems that we are 233 00:15:05.399 --> 00:15:09.080 I would say, again, responsible but not guilty, for we 234 00:15:09.120 --> 00:15:11.039 still have to work on these things. Even if we 235 00:15:11.080 --> 00:15:14.320 didn't create the problems as they exist today. We have 236 00:15:14.399 --> 00:15:17.039 to accept responsibility to work on them. And there's no 237 00:15:17.039 --> 00:15:19.799 one telling us that we have to that. It has 238 00:15:19.879 --> 00:15:23.399 not been our ethic in this time, in this generation. 239 00:15:23.840 --> 00:15:28.159 And that's James. You decided to put your hat in 240 00:15:28.200 --> 00:15:31.519 the ring to run for Congress, and I'm assuming that 241 00:15:31.600 --> 00:15:35.639 part of that ethic is that you are prepared to 242 00:15:35.679 --> 00:15:39.360 carry the burden of other people their healthcare, their taxes, 243 00:15:39.519 --> 00:15:44.320 their security, their schools. Share with us. That pivotal moment 244 00:15:44.360 --> 00:15:46.559 where you made that decision. 245 00:15:47.960 --> 00:15:50.799 Oh wow, ah. 246 00:15:51.159 --> 00:15:54.679 I believe it was at this point about ten, maybe 247 00:15:54.759 --> 00:15:57.559 nine or ten years ago, and it just came from 248 00:15:57.600 --> 00:16:00.240 seeing us suffering around me in my community. I grew 249 00:16:00.320 --> 00:16:02.679 up in poor communities, I live in poor communities. I 250 00:16:02.679 --> 00:16:05.200 still live in Central Harlem right now. I grew up 251 00:16:05.759 --> 00:16:09.240 on the west side of Detroit. And again, it makes 252 00:16:09.279 --> 00:16:12.080 me think about the ethic that my grandmother gave me. 253 00:16:12.120 --> 00:16:14.320 She was a Muslim woman, but she was really the 254 00:16:14.320 --> 00:16:17.159 one telling me that you are responsible even if you're 255 00:16:17.200 --> 00:16:17.720 not guilty. 256 00:16:18.279 --> 00:16:20.720 It is your responsibility to work on these problems. 257 00:16:21.279 --> 00:16:24.559 The moment I decided that I would participate is when 258 00:16:24.600 --> 00:16:28.799 I would lobby our current elected officials with tools and 259 00:16:28.840 --> 00:16:31.120 tactics that they can use and even support that I 260 00:16:31.120 --> 00:16:34.519 would bring to them, whether it be financially or otherwise, 261 00:16:35.200 --> 00:16:37.039 and they were unable to hear it. 262 00:16:37.159 --> 00:16:40.080 They didn't feel like there was enough incentive to work 263 00:16:40.200 --> 00:16:43.960 on hyper local problems. 264 00:16:45.480 --> 00:16:48.639 So I think for any of us who feel like 265 00:16:48.720 --> 00:16:50.559 out there in the world, any of us listening to 266 00:16:50.639 --> 00:16:53.639 this show, who feel like it is our responsibility, you 267 00:16:53.679 --> 00:16:55.960 may not have all the answers today, but I think 268 00:16:56.000 --> 00:17:00.320 it's worth starting to participate today to build your base 269 00:17:00.399 --> 00:17:02.559 and figure out how to actually make the changes that 270 00:17:02.679 --> 00:17:06.319 you want to see. I think about ten years ago, 271 00:17:06.359 --> 00:17:09.240 I realized I was just getting older and it was 272 00:17:10.039 --> 00:17:12.599 time to participate in a more deliberate way. 273 00:17:12.880 --> 00:17:15.000 So now I'm. 274 00:17:14.799 --> 00:17:21.000 Here congratulations on that. You know, to be moved, you 275 00:17:22.119 --> 00:17:26.000 quantity to see it, and then to be compelled to 276 00:17:26.079 --> 00:17:29.240 do something about it. Is to be in a valley 277 00:17:30.200 --> 00:17:33.240 and to offer people hope. Is to imagine the idea 278 00:17:33.319 --> 00:17:37.240 of a mountaintop, and to dedicate yourself to that proposition 279 00:17:37.680 --> 00:17:42.559 is what doctor King understood better than most. It isn't 280 00:17:42.640 --> 00:17:46.359 just about the last speech he gave or the intonations 281 00:17:46.359 --> 00:17:50.839 in the way he gave it. This man understood suffering 282 00:17:51.519 --> 00:17:54.640 and was capable of caring and willing to carry the 283 00:17:54.680 --> 00:17:58.960 burden of people who could not speak for themselves. 284 00:17:59.400 --> 00:18:02.559 And he was he was alright with that, He was 285 00:18:02.839 --> 00:18:07.920 satisfied with that, and he was comfortable in that space. 286 00:18:08.000 --> 00:18:10.359 I can't get out of my mind a clip that 287 00:18:10.759 --> 00:18:16.799 Gina played yesterday on the show, and it was at 288 00:18:16.839 --> 00:18:21.079 the hour that he was receiving the Nobel Peace Prize. 289 00:18:21.240 --> 00:18:24.799 He did not accept it on behalf of himself, but 290 00:18:24.920 --> 00:18:29.599 the twenty million negroes in America who were weathering the 291 00:18:29.680 --> 00:18:38.319 long dark night of the consequences of slavery, discrimination, racism, militarism, materialism, 292 00:18:38.359 --> 00:18:42.759 who found themselves permanently trapped in a situation. And he 293 00:18:42.880 --> 00:18:50.799 decided to give eyes and ears and tongue and sensibilities 294 00:18:51.200 --> 00:18:57.799 and sensory central nervous system energy to articulating and being 295 00:18:58.319 --> 00:19:03.200 that person in that for us in that hour, and 296 00:19:03.240 --> 00:19:04.640 no one could articulate it better. 297 00:19:05.759 --> 00:19:06.359 I agree. 298 00:19:06.920 --> 00:19:09.160 Well, the thing is that now there's forty million of 299 00:19:09.240 --> 00:19:14.200 us and we're in arguably even more dire state from 300 00:19:14.319 --> 00:19:18.960 a property, from an income, from a social and economic 301 00:19:19.039 --> 00:19:26.480 power standpoint, again because of what I would assumler about 302 00:19:26.519 --> 00:19:30.119 two generations of a lack of a sense of responsibility. 303 00:19:31.559 --> 00:19:33.599 So we got a lot of work to do. 304 00:19:33.680 --> 00:19:38.279 We basically have to rebuild black infrastructure to survive in 305 00:19:38.319 --> 00:19:42.440 this country, and it will be a road map for 306 00:19:42.519 --> 00:19:46.000 anyone looking to participate outside of this country. You know, 307 00:19:46.039 --> 00:19:48.720 when I think about the great leaders of the African 308 00:19:48.799 --> 00:19:53.200 National Congress who are finally in control of South Africa. 309 00:19:53.240 --> 00:19:55.759 Their first president, there was a great book written about them, 310 00:19:56.160 --> 00:19:57.720 was a follower of everything that Booker T. 311 00:19:57.960 --> 00:19:58.680 Washington did. 312 00:19:59.039 --> 00:20:03.359 And then fast forward many many decades, Nelson Mandela was 313 00:20:03.400 --> 00:20:06.039 regularly referencing what MLK was doing. 314 00:20:07.720 --> 00:20:14.319 Black people, being of a consistent minority in this country. 315 00:20:14.359 --> 00:20:17.559 Are the loudest voice because of how we interact with 316 00:20:17.640 --> 00:20:19.720 media to the rest of the world of how to, 317 00:20:20.359 --> 00:20:23.960 if it at all possible, climb out of the grave 318 00:20:24.039 --> 00:20:26.240 that we were seemingly born into. And so I think 319 00:20:26.279 --> 00:20:29.400 we have to carry the torch and be as loud 320 00:20:29.440 --> 00:20:32.680 of voices as we can about our responsibility for a 321 00:20:32.720 --> 00:20:35.559 situation that we are not necessarily guilty for So. 322 00:20:36.160 --> 00:20:40.839 James, you're in New York. Bear Mamdani was successful running 323 00:20:40.839 --> 00:20:43.759 a campaign on the questions of affordability. What have you 324 00:20:43.799 --> 00:20:45.720 been seeing for New Yorkers and what are you seeing 325 00:20:45.759 --> 00:20:46.680 across this country? 326 00:20:47.200 --> 00:20:48.240 Well, he's a week or two in. 327 00:20:48.440 --> 00:20:51.799 I actually lead a coalition here that's fighting for a 328 00:20:51.839 --> 00:20:55.720 housing subsidy uptown because we've had a lot of displacement, 329 00:20:55.759 --> 00:21:00.440 about sixty thousand black individuals, in particular in Harlem. And 330 00:21:00.519 --> 00:21:03.599 I think what we're seeing is about a hope that 331 00:21:03.680 --> 00:21:06.960 things are possible. I think for so long we thought 332 00:21:07.000 --> 00:21:10.680 that it was really impossible to get things done, and 333 00:21:10.759 --> 00:21:14.440 so we haven't seen a lot of the property and 334 00:21:15.160 --> 00:21:18.279 opportunities transpire yet, because again we're about a week or 335 00:21:18.319 --> 00:21:21.279 two in. But I see a whole lot more hope, 336 00:21:22.000 --> 00:21:24.759 not only uptown but across the city about what we 337 00:21:24.839 --> 00:21:27.839 can achieve. And there are a lot more offers of 338 00:21:27.960 --> 00:21:32.440 hands on deck, and I think that's what's necessary. There's 339 00:21:32.480 --> 00:21:36.119 a lot more people taking responsibility for the circumstance again 340 00:21:36.160 --> 00:21:39.519 that we are not necessarily guilty for, and so I'm 341 00:21:39.559 --> 00:21:43.960 hopeful about what we'll be able to achieve. Mom Donnie 342 00:21:44.000 --> 00:21:47.519 has the point that a few of our partners who 343 00:21:47.559 --> 00:21:51.400 are on this. We have an interfaith Commission for Housing Equality, 344 00:21:52.240 --> 00:21:55.480 and they're right there front and center discussing how we 345 00:21:56.480 --> 00:21:59.400 attack affordability, at least from a housing standpoint, but we're 346 00:21:59.400 --> 00:22:03.279 also focused from an education standpoint, from a healthcare standpoint, 347 00:22:03.319 --> 00:22:06.759 and from a direct income standpoint. There's a new conversation 348 00:22:06.960 --> 00:22:11.319 about guaranteed incomes that MLKA was also a champion of, 349 00:22:11.839 --> 00:22:15.720 which has not been a conversation in the biggest, wealthiest 350 00:22:15.759 --> 00:22:19.160 city in America. But it is a new conversation that 351 00:22:19.519 --> 00:22:22.759 needs to be had with some dignity about why we're 352 00:22:22.839 --> 00:22:24.839 owed this income. 353 00:22:25.400 --> 00:22:26.039 And that's new. 354 00:22:27.039 --> 00:22:29.960 It certainly is, and I haven't heard it beyond New York, 355 00:22:30.000 --> 00:22:33.680 but New York tends to be a trendsetter, given that 356 00:22:33.960 --> 00:22:36.559 before the Mumdanie election, we hadn't heard very much about 357 00:22:36.599 --> 00:22:40.920 affordability until he shocked the Democratic Party and its establishment. 358 00:22:40.960 --> 00:22:43.640 I'm Jesse Jackson Jr. You're listening to Worldwide with p 359 00:22:43.839 --> 00:22:46.720 l Da Silva and our very special guest, James Felton 360 00:22:46.799 --> 00:22:49.759 Keith More on KBLA Talk fifteen to eighty. When we 361 00:22:49.839 --> 00:22:51.960 come forward, I'm Jesse Jackson Junior. Welcome forward to the 362 00:22:52.000 --> 00:22:55.240 Jesse Jackson Junior Show. It's Wealthy Wednesdays and worldwide with 363 00:22:55.319 --> 00:22:58.559 doctor p l Da Silva. Our very special guest in 364 00:22:58.599 --> 00:23:02.519 this hour is James Felton Keith. And just before we 365 00:23:02.559 --> 00:23:04.720 go back to our very special guest, the founder of 366 00:23:04.759 --> 00:23:09.880 Inclusion Score and author of Inclusionism, Gina has a clip 367 00:23:09.920 --> 00:23:12.440 that she like us to play. She's not ready for 368 00:23:12.480 --> 00:23:17.119 the clipbright anyway, Yes, James and Keith. Another question, James. 369 00:23:17.680 --> 00:23:22.039 Trump took one point two five million dollars from your 370 00:23:22.119 --> 00:23:25.359 organization that Biden had promised, and now you have to 371 00:23:25.480 --> 00:23:28.279 raise money outside of the country. Tell us a little 372 00:23:28.279 --> 00:23:33.720 bit more about Inclusion Score and how our supporters, our 373 00:23:33.759 --> 00:23:36.880 listeners can be supportive of your organization and how they 374 00:23:36.880 --> 00:23:37.400 can reach you. 375 00:23:38.240 --> 00:23:38.480 Yeah. 376 00:23:38.640 --> 00:23:42.960 So yeah, just at the top of this year, Trump 377 00:23:43.200 --> 00:23:46.160 shut off money that we were promised by Joe Biden 378 00:23:47.640 --> 00:23:50.880 in twenty twenty four that was supposed to materialize now. 379 00:23:51.359 --> 00:23:56.000 So if anyone is not familiar, the International Organization for Standards, 380 00:23:56.279 --> 00:23:59.640 which really stood up after World War Two, exist to 381 00:23:59.680 --> 00:24:02.359 create a consensus or standards for how we do everything. 382 00:24:02.359 --> 00:24:04.640 There's a standard for the textiles and your shirt, there's 383 00:24:04.640 --> 00:24:07.240 a standard for the fuel in your vehicle, you name it, 384 00:24:07.319 --> 00:24:11.079 and as of twenty twenty one, there's a standard for diversity, 385 00:24:11.119 --> 00:24:14.720 equity and inclusion and how we implement it at organizations. 386 00:24:14.759 --> 00:24:19.319 By organizations, I mean everything, cities, companies, universities, you name it. 387 00:24:19.319 --> 00:24:22.960 It's ratified across one hundred and sixty three countries, and 388 00:24:23.079 --> 00:24:27.319 my company Inclusion Score serves as the certifying body in 389 00:24:27.400 --> 00:24:33.000 thirty two countries on five continents. And the Biden administration 390 00:24:33.200 --> 00:24:36.400 was leveraging the success of our use of the standard 391 00:24:36.519 --> 00:24:40.519 in different types of organizations to push it through American 392 00:24:40.599 --> 00:24:45.279 trade associations specific to STEM like the American Society for 393 00:24:45.400 --> 00:24:48.799 Mechanical Engineers, Civil Engineers, you name it. And it had 394 00:24:48.880 --> 00:24:52.680 created a faith which the American government often does with 395 00:24:52.720 --> 00:24:56.759 its investment, and a snowball effect across the globe for 396 00:24:56.960 --> 00:25:00.839 other countries and companies to invest in this. Trump just 397 00:25:00.880 --> 00:25:04.559 shut off what Biden promised, and it's really putting even 398 00:25:04.559 --> 00:25:09.039 our campaign into question because there's only enough time in 399 00:25:09.039 --> 00:25:11.279 a day, and you know this from running for office. 400 00:25:11.799 --> 00:25:13.559 You know it costs about a million dollars and so 401 00:25:13.599 --> 00:25:16.480