Speaker 1: Welcome forward to the Jesse Jackson Junior Show on ABLA
Speaker 1: Talk fifteen eighty. It is Wealthy Wednesdays on the Jesse
Speaker 1: Jackson Junior Show Worldwide with E. L. Silva. Doctor Silva
Speaker 1: has over twenty years experience a background to re media
Speaker 1: and negotiation. He's taught polities international relations in several graduate
Speaker 1: and undergraduate programs at universities in New York, New Jersey,
Speaker 1: Long Island and Queen's University of Belfast and Northern Ireland.
Speaker 1: Doctor de Silva's publications include post postmodern insurgencies, political violence,
Speaker 1: identity formation and peacemaking and comparative Perspective. He's an experienced
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Speaker 1: humanitarian action and global affairs involving war affected deeply divided societies.
Speaker 1: Doctor de Silva, Forward to the Jesse Jackson Junior Show
Speaker 1: and to your show worldwide with p LDA Silva.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Jesse, glad to be on.
Speaker 1: You know. I was looking at Senator Ed Markey who
Speaker 1: offered a resolution to have the President of the United
Speaker 1: States removed by virtue of the twenty fifth Amendment, that
Speaker 1: is the Incapacity Amendment. And before the show began, you
Speaker 1: began talking about others who have suggested that the President
Speaker 1: of the United States in this hour is unhinged. His
Speaker 1: mental health is clearly on full display. Peel.
Speaker 2: Yes, it's a sad place for the United States to
Speaker 2: be in that you have somebody with so much power,
Speaker 2: and unfortunately it's not logical, it's not rational, and all
Speaker 2: of this doesn't board well for the future. And twenty
Speaker 2: twenty six is good to be a come to Jesus'
Speaker 2: time for Donald Trump with the midterm elections in November,
Speaker 2: and I do believe that the Republicans tend to lose
Speaker 2: the House and the Senate and then there'll be a
Speaker 2: whole load of trouble for Trump. And he's been saying
Speaker 2: that he's going to get impeached and to please get
Speaker 2: out the vote.
Speaker 1: But yeah, he.
Speaker 2: Might not last that long if he continues in this fashion,
Speaker 2: fighting with you know, our long term allies, and being
Speaker 2: so fractious with regard to international relations and international policies
Speaker 2: over Greenland. You know, it just doesn't look it's so ugly.
Speaker 2: You know, he's the quintessential ugly American.
Speaker 1: And that is that's quite a statement to make about
Speaker 1: the President of the United States, but that's in a
Speaker 1: real sense. As we commemorate the two hundred and fiftith
Speaker 1: anniversary of the Declaration of Independence, Donald Trump in terms
Speaker 1: of values, in terms of core beliefs, in terms of
Speaker 1: the direction of fundamental human rights, he has really become
Speaker 1: and emerged as the correct, quitet essential American. That he
Speaker 1: is the sum of everything that we are as a nation.
Speaker 1: And that reckoning that you're saying could very well occur
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty six is when the American people's values
Speaker 1: at the ballot box, whether or not they conform or
Speaker 1: confront the president's values and the direction that they have
Speaker 1: and the beliefs that they have for the future of
Speaker 1: our nation. Peel, I can't applaud you more for that
Speaker 1: accurate analysis. I also want to welcome into our program
Speaker 1: James Felton Keith Award winning engineer economist who was the
Speaker 1: first black LGBTQQ person to run for the US Congress.
Speaker 1: He lectures at the New York University in the Big
Speaker 1: Ideas Course series. As an author and activist, his data
Speaker 1: unions We've redefined the labor movement and personal data as
Speaker 1: the neutral resource driving all corporate productivity. As an entrepreneur,
Speaker 1: he established the first international standard certification for corporate diversity
Speaker 1: and inclusion. His biopolitical philosophy, Inclusionism, is at the forefront
Speaker 1: of human rights advocacy and international relations, and each week
Speaker 1: he hosts the radio show Inclusionism in New York City.
Speaker 1: James Felton Keith, Welcome forward to Jesse Jackson Junior Show.
Speaker 3: Thanks for having me, Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1: Guys and worldwide with p LD Silva, we've begun the conversation.
Speaker 1: Of course, we'll dig into deeper issues when we come
Speaker 1: forward at the eleven minute of the hour mark. But James,
Speaker 1: I want to ask you a question about your sense
Speaker 1: of the president's mental health, his capacity and his ability
Speaker 1: to perform the functions of the job.
Speaker 4: Well, I've been watching his west speech at the Ward
Speaker 4: Economic Forum, and a lot of his team members box
Speaker 4: earlier today and as they built up towards yesterday.
Speaker 3: Look, I think for there have been a lot of psychologists.
Speaker 4: I'm an economist, not a psychologist, but there have been
Speaker 4: a lot of psychologists to talk about how bad off
Speaker 4: he is for the past.
Speaker 3: Few years, but I think his team is using it
Speaker 3: to their advantage.
Speaker 4: I do think that his mental health has been degraded,
Speaker 4: for lack of better words, but I think that it
Speaker 4: is a strategic opportunity by the people who are behind him,
Speaker 4: specifically the thinkers at institutions like the Hoover Institute, the
Speaker 4: Cato Institute.
Speaker 3: They are using his dogged nature to.
Speaker 4: Steamroll over people, to steamroll over countries, rather to redesign
Speaker 4: the global order and you know, renew poles if you will, Russian,
Speaker 4: Chinese and American pole.
Speaker 3: I actually spent this.
Speaker 4: Morning on one with a bunch of the French leaders
Speaker 4: who both talk about how he postured himself versus their
Speaker 4: prime ministers and presidents respectively, even poking fun and laughing
Speaker 4: at McCrone earlier this morning. So look, I think Trump
Speaker 4: is definitely deranged, but I think we've always thought that
Speaker 4: so much so that social media, in these bot farms,
Speaker 4: are running bots against us to claim that anyone who
Speaker 4: challenges the president's current state have what they will call
Speaker 4: Trump derangement syndrome.
Speaker 3: And it's really bait.
Speaker 4: It's a switching of our language, our formal language, about
Speaker 4: where he is to claim that apparently the masses of
Speaker 4: us are deranged by thinking that his general presentation is dangerous.
Speaker 3: It's going to get people killed.
Speaker 1: I'm Jesse Jackson Junior listening to Jesse Jackson Junior Show
Speaker 1: on KBO they talk fifteen to eighty. This is Worldwide
Speaker 1: with Peel de Silva and our very special guest James
Speaker 1: Felton Keith. More we come forward on kbla talk Junior
Speaker 1: that's a junior jobs and a very special guest in
Speaker 1: this hour is none other than James Felton Keith. I
Speaker 1: do have a couple of questions that I like to
Speaker 1: begin our program formerly with, and that is, if you
Speaker 1: don't mind doctor de Silva sharing with us some of
Speaker 1: your thoughts on the proper and appropriate commemoration in this
Speaker 1: hour of Martin Luther King Jr.
Speaker 2: A great American and a great human being and a
Speaker 2: wonderful leader who has said so many things that are
Speaker 2: extremely pertinent for us today as we live in this
Speaker 2: fractious society that has become America, and I think there
Speaker 2: are so many lessons that we can learn as we
Speaker 2: go forward, and the civil rights movement and Martin Luther
Speaker 2: King a part and parcel of the fabric of what
Speaker 2: makes America truly great.
Speaker 4: James Keith, Yeah, definitely, I echo what brother Pellis said.
Speaker 4: What I would say is in remembering MLK is how
Speaker 4: he was received older at the time of his death
Speaker 4: in nineteen sixty eight, A lot of America did not
Speaker 4: like to hear that he was that we still have
Speaker 4: to speak now in this news. So in an effort
Speaker 4: to not repeat our own things, I'd encourage everyone to
Speaker 4: search their history, look up some of his own speeches,
Speaker 4: but also look at the poet and how he was
Speaker 4: received last year.
Speaker 1: Somebody's touching something, whatever you're doing, don't touch it. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
Speaker 4: But yeah now, yeah, Look, we're getting ready to move
Speaker 4: into February and you know, hopefully have a whole month
Speaker 4: to reflect on again how MLK was treated in his
Speaker 4: last days. But again I would encourage everyone to go
Speaker 4: back and look at the polling of how MLK was
Speaker 4: received in nineteen sixty eight. And again it has not
Speaker 4: lost on me that he was not even a forty
Speaker 4: year old man when he was assassinated.
Speaker 1: You know, I want to comment on this for just
Speaker 1: a moment and reflect on it, and then I have
Speaker 1: some more probing questions because James Felton Keith is also
Speaker 1: in a campaign for Congress, and I want to find
Speaker 1: out what he's finding out on the campaign trail, what
Speaker 1: he has learned so far. But before I get there,
Speaker 1: I want to comment on the character of doctor King,
Speaker 1: and from my perspective, the christ like character. It's easy
Speaker 1: for those of us who are Christians who go to
Speaker 1: church and say Jesus carried the sins of the world.
Speaker 1: Jesus carried the weight and the burden of the world,
Speaker 1: But we never talk about Jesus's mental state, and who
Speaker 1: was willing to carry the weight of the world could
Speaker 1: easily find himself and probably regularly found himself in some
Speaker 1: garden of gethesemone, some depression, some deep dark space, and
Speaker 1: of course he elevated out of that deep dark space
Speaker 1: into the kind of leader that we've come to appreciate
Speaker 1: and a moral leader, son of God, and all the
Speaker 1: attributes that we give to the man who emerged out
Speaker 1: of that deep dark space. When I think about Martin
Speaker 1: Luther King Junior, and I'll say this very quickly, we
Speaker 1: don't fully appreciate the nature of his personal suffering is
Speaker 1: to understand suffering of other people. And I can only think, James,
Speaker 1: that in this moment, we don't have the kind of
Speaker 1: leadership today that actually is capable of saying it's my fault.
Speaker 1: It's my fault to own the behavior of what's going wrong.
Speaker 1: I was reflecting upon conversation I had earlier with some
Speaker 1: of my own friends who were talking about high property
Speaker 1: taxes and high this and high that, and I found
Speaker 1: myself slipping because some of it. I said to myself,
Speaker 1: it's my fault that I will that I wasn't in
Speaker 1: a position to do something about it. In other words,
Speaker 1: I'm not prepared to kick the can down the road
Speaker 1: or blame somebody else. I had solutions that I wanted
Speaker 1: to bring forward to take the burden off of people,
Speaker 1: and the fact that those solutions have not been completed,
Speaker 1: it's my fault. And I wish I could hear more
Speaker 1: from Congressman James Keith, from senators and from presidents, and
Speaker 1: from moral leaders who own their role that they've played,
Speaker 1: not just in preaching to us, but acknowledging that some
Speaker 1: of what, and maybe even more than some of what,
Speaker 1: a significant amount of what's going wrong in our world.
Speaker 1: It's our fault and Perry the burden of the world.
Speaker 1: James Felton Keith. That is the beginning of the moral
Speaker 1: crusade that I think Martin Luther King Junior is identified
Speaker 1: with James Felton Keith.
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I totally agree.
Speaker 4: One thing I like to say, even if if we
Speaker 4: put ourselves up for leadership roles, one of the burdens
Speaker 4: of leadership is, even if it's a community's fault or
Speaker 4: a systematic fault, it is necessary for the leader to
Speaker 4: absorb some of that blame.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: A quote that I like to use a lot is
Speaker 4: that we are responsible yet not guilty. It is necessary
Speaker 4: for society to reckon with itself, for communities, whether they
Speaker 4: be small or large, to reckon with themselves by assuming
Speaker 4: some level of responsibility, even if they exist in a
Speaker 4: broader system that might be more guilty of their current state.
Speaker 4: I think that one thing that MLK was available to do,
Speaker 4: one thing he was available to do in the Vein
Speaker 4: of Jesus and what Jesus's story is told, that he
Speaker 4: was available to do was to absorb a lot.
Speaker 3: Of that responsibility.
Speaker 4: And the problem with the leadership that we have available,
Speaker 4: not only in this country but in most places these days,
Speaker 4: is that they're not available to absorb and acknowledge the
Speaker 4: responsibility that we have as custodians of this place, of
Speaker 4: this planet, of each other.
Speaker 3: It's a moral calling, and quite frankly, the.
Speaker 4: Morality that used to exist in not only American politics
Speaker 4: but other politics seems to have gone away.
Speaker 1: And we've been replaced by a blame culture.
Speaker 4: If you want what's pointing, there's that spider Man meme
Speaker 4: that everyone used, where everyone's blaming everyone else. Quite frankly,
Speaker 4: I'll just add, I think when leaders are available to
Speaker 4: absorb responsibility, I think that their followers, their community, their
Speaker 4: voters are more than willing to work with them to
Speaker 4: see that, to see the humanity in that Trump is
Speaker 4: as to having the loudest microphone, not only in the
Speaker 4: United States but on the planet. Right now, it's teaching
Speaker 4: a generation that you can get away with just finger
Speaker 4: pointing and accepting no blame for anything. And it may
Speaker 4: not seem like it, but it is trickling down to
Speaker 4: the leaders on the right and the left, where everyone
Speaker 4: is just pointing, and it's turning into such solation banter
Speaker 4: around how we actually fix the problems that we are
Speaker 4: I would say, again, responsible but not guilty, for we
Speaker 4: still have to work on these things. Even if we
Speaker 4: didn't create the problems as they exist today. We have
Speaker 4: to accept responsibility to work on them. And there's no
Speaker 4: one telling us that we have to that. It has
Speaker 4: not been our ethic in this time, in this generation.
Speaker 1: And that's James. You decided to put your hat in
Speaker 1: the ring to run for Congress, and I'm assuming that
Speaker 1: part of that ethic is that you are prepared to
Speaker 1: carry the burden of other people their healthcare, their taxes,
Speaker 1: their security, their schools. Share with us. That pivotal moment
Speaker 1: where you made that decision.
Speaker 3: Oh wow, ah.
Speaker 4: I believe it was at this point about ten, maybe
Speaker 4: nine or ten years ago, and it just came from
Speaker 4: seeing us suffering around me in my community. I grew
Speaker 4: up in poor communities, I live in poor communities. I
Speaker 4: still live in Central Harlem right now. I grew up
Speaker 4: on the west side of Detroit. And again, it makes
Speaker 4: me think about the ethic that my grandmother gave me.
Speaker 4: She was a Muslim woman, but she was really the
Speaker 4: one telling me that you are responsible even if you're
Speaker 4: not guilty.
Speaker 3: It is your responsibility to work on these problems.
Speaker 4: The moment I decided that I would participate is when
Speaker 4: I would lobby our current elected officials with tools and
Speaker 4: tactics that they can use and even support that I
Speaker 4: would bring to them, whether it be financially or otherwise,
Speaker 4: and they were unable to hear it.
Speaker 3: They didn't feel like there was enough incentive to work
Speaker 3: on hyper local problems.
Speaker 4: So I think for any of us who feel like
Speaker 4: out there in the world, any of us listening to
Speaker 4: this show, who feel like it is our responsibility, you
Speaker 4: may not have all the answers today, but I think
Speaker 4: it's worth starting to participate today to build your base
Speaker 4: and figure out how to actually make the changes that
Speaker 4: you want to see. I think about ten years ago,
Speaker 4: I realized I was just getting older and it was
Speaker 4: time to participate in a more deliberate way.
Speaker 3: So now I'm.
Speaker 5: Here congratulations on that. You know, to be moved, you
Speaker 5: quantity to see it, and then to be compelled to
Speaker 5: do something about it. Is to be in a valley
Speaker 5: and to offer people hope. Is to imagine the idea
Speaker 5: of a mountaintop, and to dedicate yourself to that proposition
Speaker 5: is what doctor King understood better than most. It isn't
Speaker 5: just about the last speech he gave or the intonations
Speaker 5: in the way he gave it. This man understood suffering
Speaker 5: and was capable of caring and willing to carry the
Speaker 5: burden of people who could not speak for themselves.
Speaker 1: And he was he was alright with that, He was
Speaker 1: satisfied with that, and he was comfortable in that space.
Speaker 1: I can't get out of my mind a clip that
Speaker 1: Gina played yesterday on the show, and it was at
Speaker 1: the hour that he was receiving the Nobel Peace Prize.
Speaker 1: He did not accept it on behalf of himself, but
Speaker 1: the twenty million negroes in America who were weathering the
Speaker 1: long dark night of the consequences of slavery, discrimination, racism, militarism, materialism,
Speaker 1: who found themselves permanently trapped in a situation. And he
Speaker 1: decided to give eyes and ears and tongue and sensibilities
Speaker 1: and sensory central nervous system energy to articulating and being
Speaker 1: that person in that for us in that hour, and
Speaker 1: no one could articulate it better.
Speaker 3: I agree.
Speaker 4: Well, the thing is that now there's forty million of
Speaker 4: us and we're in arguably even more dire state from
Speaker 4: a property, from an income, from a social and economic
Speaker 4: power standpoint, again because of what I would assumler about
Speaker 4: two generations of a lack of a sense of responsibility.
Speaker 3: So we got a lot of work to do.
Speaker 4: We basically have to rebuild black infrastructure to survive in
Speaker 4: this country, and it will be a road map for
Speaker 4: anyone looking to participate outside of this country. You know,
Speaker 4: when I think about the great leaders of the African
Speaker 4: National Congress who are finally in control of South Africa.
Speaker 4: Their first president, there was a great book written about them,
Speaker 4: was a follower of everything that Booker T.
Speaker 3: Washington did.
Speaker 4: And then fast forward many many decades, Nelson Mandela was
Speaker 4: regularly referencing what MLK was doing.
Speaker 3: Black people, being of a consistent minority in this country.
Speaker 4: Are the loudest voice because of how we interact with
Speaker 4: media to the rest of the world of how to,
Speaker 4: if it at all possible, climb out of the grave
Speaker 4: that we were seemingly born into. And so I think
Speaker 4: we have to carry the torch and be as loud
Speaker 4: of voices as we can about our responsibility for a
Speaker 4: situation that we are not necessarily guilty for So.
Speaker 1: James, you're in New York. Bear Mamdani was successful running
Speaker 1: a campaign on the questions of affordability. What have you
Speaker 1: been seeing for New Yorkers and what are you seeing
Speaker 1: across this country?
Speaker 3: Well, he's a week or two in.
Speaker 4: I actually lead a coalition here that's fighting for a
Speaker 4: housing subsidy uptown because we've had a lot of displacement,
Speaker 4: about sixty thousand black individuals, in particular in Harlem. And
Speaker 4: I think what we're seeing is about a hope that
Speaker 4: things are possible. I think for so long we thought
Speaker 4: that it was really impossible to get things done, and
Speaker 4: so we haven't seen a lot of the property and
Speaker 4: opportunities transpire yet, because again we're about a week or
Speaker 4: two in. But I see a whole lot more hope,
Speaker 4: not only uptown but across the city about what we
Speaker 4: can achieve. And there are a lot more offers of
Speaker 4: hands on deck, and I think that's what's necessary. There's
Speaker 4: a lot more people taking responsibility for the circumstance again
Speaker 4: that we are not necessarily guilty for, and so I'm
Speaker 4: hopeful about what we'll be able to achieve. Mom Donnie
Speaker 4: has the point that a few of our partners who
Speaker 4: are on this. We have an interfaith Commission for Housing Equality,
Speaker 4: and they're right there front and center discussing how we
Speaker 4: attack affordability, at least from a housing standpoint, but we're
Speaker 4: also focused from an education standpoint, from a healthcare standpoint,
Speaker 4: and from a direct income standpoint. There's a new conversation
Speaker 4: about guaranteed incomes that MLKA was also a champion of,
Speaker 4: which has not been a conversation in the biggest, wealthiest
Speaker 4: city in America. But it is a new conversation that
Speaker 4: needs to be had with some dignity about why we're
Speaker 4: owed this income.
Speaker 3: And that's new.
Speaker 1: It certainly is, and I haven't heard it beyond New York,
Speaker 1: but New York tends to be a trendsetter, given that
Speaker 1: before the Mumdanie election, we hadn't heard very much about
Speaker 1: affordability until he shocked the Democratic Party and its establishment.
Speaker 1: I'm Jesse Jackson Jr. You're listening to Worldwide with p
Speaker 1: l Da Silva and our very special guest, James Felton
Speaker 1: Keith More on KBLA Talk fifteen to eighty. When we
Speaker 1: come forward, I'm Jesse Jackson Junior. Welcome forward to the
Speaker 1: Jesse Jackson Junior Show. It's Wealthy Wednesdays and worldwide with
Speaker 1: doctor p l Da Silva. Our very special guest in
Speaker 1: this hour is James Felton Keith. And just before we
Speaker 1: go back to our very special guest, the founder of
Speaker 1: Inclusion Score and author of Inclusionism, Gina has a clip
Speaker 1: that she like us to play. She's not ready for
Speaker 1: the clipbright anyway, Yes, James and Keith. Another question, James.
Speaker 1: Trump took one point two five million dollars from your
Speaker 1: organization that Biden had promised, and now you have to
Speaker 1: raise money outside of the country. Tell us a little
Speaker 1: bit more about Inclusion Score and how our supporters, our
Speaker 1: listeners can be supportive of your organization and how they
Speaker 1: can reach you.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So yeah, just at the top of this year, Trump
Speaker 4: shut off money that we were promised by Joe Biden
Speaker 4: in twenty twenty four that was supposed to materialize now.
Speaker 4: So if anyone is not familiar, the International Organization for Standards,
Speaker 4: which really stood up after World War Two, exist to
Speaker 4: create a consensus or standards for how we do everything.
Speaker 4: There's a standard for the textiles and your shirt, there's
Speaker 4: a standard for the fuel in your vehicle, you name it,
Speaker 4: and as of twenty twenty one, there's a standard for diversity,
Speaker 4: equity and inclusion and how we implement it at organizations.
Speaker 4: By organizations, I mean everything, cities, companies, universities, you name it.
Speaker 4: It's ratified across one hundred and sixty three countries, and
Speaker 4: my company Inclusion Score serves as the certifying body in
Speaker 4: thirty two countries on five continents. And the Biden administration
Speaker 4: was leveraging the success of our use of the standard
Speaker 4: in different types of organizations to push it through American
Speaker 4: trade associations specific to STEM like the American Society for
Speaker 4: Mechanical Engineers, Civil Engineers, you name it. And it had
Speaker 4: created a faith which the American government often does with
Speaker 4: its investment, and a snowball effect across the globe for
Speaker 4: other countries and companies to invest in this. Trump just
Speaker 4: shut off what Biden promised, and it's really putting even
Speaker 4: our campaign into question because there's only enough time in
Speaker 4: a day, and you know this from running for office.
Speaker 4: You know it costs about a million dollars and so
Speaker 4: there's enough time to have conversations in a day to
Speaker 4: raise that money to either run for office, or to
Speaker 4: scale this global work. So I've spent the past week
Speaker 4: with a lot of advisors, attorney general, a couple of governors,
Speaker 4: a four star general, a mayor of a big American city,
Speaker 4: a few diplomats to really explore what they thought would
Speaker 4: be the most impactful to what we were talking about earlier,
Speaker 4: to kind of take responsibility for our current situation which
Speaker 4: we may not necessarily be guilty for.
Speaker 3: And so we've got some decisions to make.
Speaker 4: But yeah, Trump stole more than a million dollars from
Speaker 4: the global community that was implementing the global standard for DEI,
Speaker 4: and not only Corporate America, but Corporate World. I just
Speaker 4: happen to be the chair of that organization, which we
Speaker 4: call Inclusion Score for short. But the mouthful is the
Speaker 4: ISO three zero four one five Diversity and Inclusion Service
Speaker 4: Management Forum.
Speaker 3: I know that's a mouthful.
Speaker 1: It is how can you support your organization?
Speaker 4: You know, I would go to inclusionscore dot org or
Speaker 4: I would google ISO three zero four one five.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 3: People can get trained, people can join us.
Speaker 4: Look, we're working with you know, governments in Canada and
Speaker 4: France and South Africa and India and Mexico and Peru
Speaker 4: and business leaders in all those places, all the twenty
Speaker 4: seven European states right now. I think what I would
Speaker 4: say the pushback against Trump is to use the standard
Speaker 4: in this post DEI world to re establish how we
Speaker 4: get at the very least engagement and belonging, or some
Speaker 4: people just call fairness and capital distribution. That's what we're
Speaker 4: really about. So if people check us out at inclusionscore
Speaker 4: dot org, they can see what we do, how we
Speaker 4: do it, and where we do it. But it's a
Speaker 4: global movement to really establish what I like to call inclusionism.
Speaker 4: I think capitalism is hacking itself into a more inclusive
Speaker 4: state because it is absolutely necessary for to stay afloat.
Speaker 3: We have to.
Speaker 4: Include women, we have to include black people, we have
Speaker 4: to include all the various people of color, disabled people,
Speaker 4: pregnant people, all the twenty seven protected classes in order
Speaker 4: for the economy to buffer itself sea.
Speaker 3: Everything we do is at inclusionscore dot org.
Speaker 4: But I think the support comes from companies and government
Speaker 4: officials being willing to stand up and say we absolutely
Speaker 4: absolutely need a deliberate type of equity and inclusion if
Speaker 4: we're going to sustain the economy that we've become accustomed.
Speaker 1: To pel let me ask you a question. I got
Speaker 1: this New York Times article. I think it is that
Speaker 1: you send me. We're going to come back to that
Speaker 1: in the moment. I think Gina has a clip that
Speaker 1: you'd like to play.
Speaker 7: Right now, someone needs to stand up and say, damn it,
Speaker 7: what we have in common matters more. We cannot throw
Speaker 7: the legacy of this country away. We cannot destroy other
Speaker 7: people's trust in us. We need to preserve that and
Speaker 7: find a way to work together and not humiliate other
Speaker 7: people just so we can win. We got to just
Speaker 7: calm down and try to pull people together again. That's
Speaker 7: what I think.
Speaker 1: I found that interesting in that when you sent me
Speaker 1: this article, this could end very badly. A human rights
Speaker 1: lawyer fears a new age of impunity. Philip Sands, one
Speaker 1: of the world's pre eminent human rights attorneys who grew
Speaker 1: up in the shadow of a variableek time, share with
Speaker 1: us why that is so important and why we need
Speaker 1: to understand that right now.
Speaker 8: A question that we had to ask as people who
Speaker 8: are believers, who believe in a greater good, who believe
Speaker 8: in God. What makes us different from the beasts in
Speaker 8: the jungle?
Speaker 3: What makes us human?
Speaker 8: What's our empathy, and these are things that are incredibly important.
Speaker 8: So if you use power with impunity and you crush
Speaker 8: the little people, you're neither Christian, no nor a good person.
Speaker 8: You are just another imperialist, a colonialist. Things that we
Speaker 8: have seen in the past of human history which has
Speaker 8: gone badly for the people who have been affected. Just
Speaker 8: look at this country alone. There was a genocide that
Speaker 8: got rid of the indigenous people from this country, and
Speaker 8: there have been many such genocides all over them, all
Speaker 8: over the world, and most recently in Gaza with the
Speaker 8: israel Is carrying out what we would call the Gaza genocide,
Speaker 8: and they're doing it with impunity, supported, aided and embedded
Speaker 8: by the United States of America.
Speaker 3: And this is not good.
Speaker 8: It's not good for our psyche, it's not good for
Speaker 8: our spiritual well being. And all people who are believers,
Speaker 8: we need to stand up believers are nonbelievers. We need
Speaker 8: to stand up for what is right. You know, when
Speaker 8: we were little, we were told what was right and
Speaker 8: what was wrong, and now it's the worse. What's wrong
Speaker 8: is right and what right is wrong. It's just a
Speaker 8: crazy way of doing things.
Speaker 3: And it's like.
Speaker 8: Gangsters are running the show. You know the rubber barons
Speaker 8: they are.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Will you comment on what President Clinton had to
Speaker 1: say that in that clip about the need to stand up?
Speaker 8: Yes, we we the people who want to see good
Speaker 8: things happen and who are un apologetically progressive.
Speaker 3: We need to come together.
Speaker 8: We need to stand shoulder to shoulder and make sure
Speaker 8: that this country does not evolve into us, which is
Speaker 8: where we're headache if Trump is allowed to do everything
Speaker 8: that he is doing without any control. And that's why
Speaker 8: the midterm elections are so so so important, so that
Speaker 8: we stand shoulder, We go and we vote, and we
Speaker 8: vote with our conscience.
Speaker 1: I do see inclusionism as a movement towards acknowledging that
Speaker 1: historically our system, James locked people out, and now we
Speaker 1: are fighting not only domestically but globally to let them in. James.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Look, I think we have to be deliberate about
Speaker 4: letting them man again.
Speaker 3: It's the only thing that sustains us.
Speaker 4: It's really about glowing growing excuse me, that movement of
Speaker 4: progressive inclusion. My only issue with Bill Clinton and the
Speaker 4: clip is he should be the one standing up and
Speaker 4: doing it. He's a man of faith, he's a former
Speaker 4: leader of this nation. We need a direct opposition, and
Speaker 4: sometimes it's people with the loudest megaphone are the most
Speaker 4: famous people in the room that have to be the
Speaker 4: one to blow the whistle or ring the bell, if
Speaker 4: you will.
Speaker 1: So you know I've been as we have. I've been
Speaker 1: reading a book by Jack Harden called Project twenty twenty
Speaker 1: five Manuscript. I've also been looking at the Innovative Strategies
Speaker 1: for National Success Project twenty twenty five, the Heritage Foundation
Speaker 1: and Project twenty twenty five explained chapter by chapter. And
Speaker 1: I'm wondering, and I want to talk with both of
Speaker 1: you about this when our show comes forward. I'm wondering,
Speaker 1: when are we going to see a democratic version Project
Speaker 1: twenty twenty eight that is as detailed about where we're
Speaker 1: going as this is detailed about where they are trying
Speaker 1: to take us to. More from Jesse Jackson Junior on
Speaker 1: the KBLA Top fifteen eighty. When we come from Jesse Jackson.
Speaker 9: Junior went forward to Jesse ken Show University, Welcome with
Speaker 9: Days and Worldwide will kill DESLFA, who has over twenty
Speaker 9: years of experience in backroom diplomacy, mediation and negotiation.
Speaker 1: He's the co founder with Professor W. Lakshman of the
Speaker 1: University of Colombo, of the International War Related Trauma and
Speaker 1: Humanitarian Intervention Trust, setting up psycho social training programs for
Speaker 1: practitioners serving combatants non combatants during Sri Lanka's Civil war.
Speaker 1: Pel Welcome forward to the show. And Jameson Keith is
Speaker 1: our very special guest and award winning engineer and economists
Speaker 1: who was the first black LGBTQ person to run for
Speaker 1: the US Congress. He lectures at the New York University
Speaker 1: in the Big Ideas course series. As an author and activist,
Speaker 1: his data unions redefined the labor movement and personal data
Speaker 1: as a neutral resource driving all all corporate productivity. James
Speaker 1: Felton Keith, welcome forward to the Jesse Jackson Junior Show.
Speaker 3: Thanks for having me, Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1: Guys, gentlemen, while I have you both for the remaining
Speaker 1: a few minutes of the show, and James Felton, you
Speaker 1: need to know that we reserve the last two or
Speaker 1: three minutes of our program for our very special guest
Speaker 1: to give the nation a word of hope. So I'll
Speaker 1: give you a moment to think about that. I need
Speaker 1: to hear some answers to this Project twenty twenty five things.
Speaker 1: Pl As you keep talking about let's vote. We've got
Speaker 1: to vote. We need to vote in order to stop
Speaker 1: Donald Trump's movement against the people. But the fact of
Speaker 1: the matter is, I'm trying to hold this up as best. Oh,
Speaker 1: here we go, here we go. I got a hold
Speaker 1: closer to myself. For those of you who are doing
Speaker 1: the podcast, I've got several of these Project twenty twenty
Speaker 1: five books. What I didn't fully appreciate is just how
Speaker 1: detailed it is in every sector of the government where
Speaker 1: they have sought to dismantle it. They're just not doing
Speaker 1: this ragtag. They are following a blue print. Now, I
Speaker 1: want to know where is the Democratic Party Project twenty
Speaker 1: twenty eight blueprint department by department, agency by agency, office
Speaker 1: by offices, clandestine, covert, overt, wherever this stuff is taking
Speaker 1: place that Donald Trump has done that restores some trust
Speaker 1: and some honor to the people's government. Who's running on
Speaker 1: an alternative platform and not just their personality. Why don't
Speaker 1: we start with pl D silver.
Speaker 8: Unfortunately, because the Heritage Foundation and others that put so
Speaker 8: much of money before Trump got elected, and they actually
Speaker 8: interviewed how many fifty five thousand people before Trump got
Speaker 8: elected to put them in various slobs in his administration,
Speaker 8: and they they spend a lot of time, energy and
Speaker 8: money to come out with this project twenty twenty five.
Speaker 8: Some people thought it was za and they didn't kind
Speaker 8: of take it seriously.
Speaker 3: But it is serious and we can see the effects.
Speaker 8: Of this Project twenty twenty five is a giant wrecking
Speaker 8: ball for what we know as the United States of America. Unfortunately,
Speaker 8: the Democrats are not up to speed. There is no
Speaker 8: program and that's the that's the problem that in order
Speaker 8: to counter something so power and so detail, there has
Speaker 8: to be a counterpoint and that has not happened on
Speaker 8: the Democratic side, and they seem to be all in
Speaker 8: disarray and that is a huge problem. So yes, they
Speaker 8: may win the mid terms, that they may win elections thereafter,
Speaker 8: you know, after Trump, but it'll take thirty years at
Speaker 8: least to restructure the whole of the federal government system.
Speaker 8: That's what Rearmiral Norman Robert Hayes said, that's in his estimate.
Speaker 8: You know, he was director of the National Security Agency's
Speaker 8: Operations Center at the NSA and for thirty something years.
Speaker 8: He was an intelligence professional, retiring as the director of
Speaker 8: Intelligence at the European Command, and he said it'll take
Speaker 8: thirty years at least to try to put the federal
Speaker 8: government back together again after Trump is gone.
Speaker 1: He made that statement having seen the president's behavior in
Speaker 1: a single year. With three more years to go, we
Speaker 1: may be sixty years, we may be ninety years away.
Speaker 1: So the question I have, and then I'm going to
Speaker 1: direct it to James Peel, you hit a point that
Speaker 1: just about threw me out of my chair.
Speaker 6: They interviewed fifty five thousand people that they brought to
Speaker 6: the government with them, and while we're watching this tweeting
Speaker 6: clown show every single day, there are fifty five thousand
Speaker 6: people who now work for the government who are carrying
Speaker 6: out the agenda of this plan. I have not heard
Speaker 6: a single Democrat say that we are going to come
Speaker 6: to Washington with fifty five thousand people we have interviewed
Speaker 6: ready to replace them and point our union in a
Speaker 6: different direction.
Speaker 1: James Felton Keith watch congressional candidate. I'm putting some heat
Speaker 1: on you.
Speaker 3: It's a hell of a question. I'll say this. I
Speaker 3: think the proper project that we need to coin is.
Speaker 4: Some of my peers have been working on it, where
Speaker 4: these mid forties folks who feel like this is our responsibility,
Speaker 4: but we're going to Project twenty twenty nine, not twenty eight,
Speaker 4: because that's when we would into power, similar to them
Speaker 4: focusing on twenty five, not the election of twenty four.
Speaker 4: And some peers of mine have organized a political action
Speaker 4: committee to do exactly what Project twenty twenty five did,
Speaker 4: per what pl mentioned called the American equity First and
Speaker 4: they have a few iees that they're working on, like
Speaker 4: Equity Democrats, etc.
Speaker 3: And they think that the core word is the term equity.
Speaker 4: And if you notice in Trump's administration, from the Department
Speaker 4: of Justice to the Department of Defense or now the
Speaker 4: Department of War and others, they've deliberately attacked that idea
Speaker 4: of equity. If we're going to have a democracy that
Speaker 4: is formidable, that can stand itself up over and over
Speaker 4: and over again after attacks from a consolidated conservative group,
Speaker 4: then we have to adequately distribute equity throughout the economy.
Speaker 4: And that means something quite different than what we would
Speaker 4: normally talk about with regards to equality. Quality is a
Speaker 4: bit more abstract, but equity is tangible, it's definable. It's
Speaker 4: an incentive to be at the table, even if I
Speaker 4: don't like you and your perspective at the table. And
Speaker 4: so what we've been devising based on my platform is,
Speaker 4: first and foremost, how we distribute that equity. And I
Speaker 4: think that our best playbook for Project twenty twenty nine
Speaker 4: is really coming out of the EU. And what they've done,
Speaker 4: first and foremost is established a new property right to
Speaker 4: give everyone a piece of the.
Speaker 3: Away from us.
Speaker 4: The second thing is a large data tax to basically
Speaker 4: ran in all the companies and governments that have run
Speaker 4: amok away from us in taking our productivity away, meaning
Speaker 4: they're mining our data, they're building productive companies, and they've
Speaker 4: locked us out. From a wage standpoint, wages are no
Speaker 4: longer the trick and last but not least, and we'll
Speaker 4: see this around thirty eight of our US states states
Speaker 4: at twenty twenty ratified the Equal Rights Amendment, and in
Speaker 4: twenty twenty four Joe Biden acknowledged it, but he didn't
Speaker 4: do anything with it. So the last but not least
Speaker 4: thing that we need to ensure that our deliberate equity
Speaker 4: and inclusion is cemented in twenty twenty nine is a
Speaker 4: series of leaders, now just a president, a series of
Speaker 4: leaders that have the audacity to do something. And by
Speaker 4: being audacious, I mean things like jail Trump and his cronies.
Speaker 4: I mean things like ratify the Equal Rights Amendment, not
Speaker 4: only at the federal level, but allowing each state to
Speaker 4: exert its state rights to protect the people in that state.
Speaker 3: And then, last, but not least, is to.
Speaker 4: Distribute, not redistribute, but distribute the equity that we're already
Speaker 4: owed from this productive economy. We think that there's a
Speaker 4: way to break that out in detail and the way
Speaker 4: that Project twenty twenty five did.
Speaker 3: We have some books.
Speaker 4: Forthcoming, but I would look up the American Equity first pack.
Speaker 4: It plans the public a lot more detail on this.
Speaker 4: But again, if we elect another Joe Biden, who I
Speaker 4: used to generally like, or Hillary or even Barack or Comma,
Speaker 4: and they fail to do things like jail the culprits
Speaker 4: a Project twenty twenty five and indemnify people for their
Speaker 4: valuable contribution to this economy, then we lose everything. And
Speaker 4: so we see this.
Speaker 1: James Felton Keith, a man after my own heart, talking
Speaker 1: about constitutional amendments and ratifying the era. I filed it
Speaker 1: twelve times when I was in the Congress of the
Speaker 1: United States. You've been listening to worldwide with Peal to
Speaker 1: Silver Peel. Thank you for being on the show, and
Speaker 1: I want to thank James Felton Keith for being on
Speaker 1: the show as well.
Speaker 3: Thanks guys.
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