Speaker 1: Welcome forward to the Jesse Jackson Junior Show on ABLA
Talk fifteen eighty. It is Wealthy Wednesdays on the Jesse
Jackson Junior Show Worldwide with E. L. Silva. Doctor Silva
has over twenty years experience a background to re media
and negotiation. He's taught polities international relations in several graduate
and undergraduate programs at universities in New York, New Jersey,
Long Island and Queen's University of Belfast and Northern Ireland.
Doctor de Silva's publications include post postmodern insurgencies, political violence,
identity formation and peacemaking and comparative Perspective. He's an experienced
director with a demonstrated history of working in think tanks,
industry and academia, the United Nations political and military affairs,
and he's skilled in research, political risk analysis, geostrategy, cultural diplomacy,
humanitarian action and global affairs involving war affected deeply divided societies.
Doctor de Silva, Forward to the Jesse Jackson Junior Show
and to your show worldwide with p LDA Silva.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Jesse, glad to be on.
Speaker 1: You know. I was looking at Senator Ed Markey who
offered a resolution to have the President of the United
States removed by virtue of the twenty fifth Amendment, that
is the Incapacity Amendment. And before the show began, you
began talking about others who have suggested that the President
of the United States in this hour is unhinged. His
mental health is clearly on full display. Peel.
Speaker 2: Yes, it's a sad place for the United States to
be in that you have somebody with so much power,
and unfortunately it's not logical, it's not rational, and all
of this doesn't board well for the future. And twenty
twenty six is good to be a come to Jesus'
time for Donald Trump with the midterm elections in November,
and I do believe that the Republicans tend to lose
the House and the Senate and then there'll be a
whole load of trouble for Trump. And he's been saying
that he's going to get impeached and to please get
out the vote.
Speaker 1: But yeah, he.
Speaker 2: Might not last that long if he continues in this fashion,
fighting with you know, our long term allies, and being
so fractious with regard to international relations and international policies
over Greenland. You know, it just doesn't look it's so ugly.
You know, he's the quintessential ugly American.
Speaker 1: And that is that's quite a statement to make about
the President of the United States, but that's in a
real sense. As we commemorate the two hundred and fiftith
anniversary of the Declaration of Independence, Donald Trump in terms
of values, in terms of core beliefs, in terms of
the direction of fundamental human rights, he has really become
and emerged as the correct, quitet essential American. That he
is the sum of everything that we are as a nation.
And that reckoning that you're saying could very well occur
in twenty twenty six is when the American people's values
at the ballot box, whether or not they conform or
confront the president's values and the direction that they have
and the beliefs that they have for the future of
our nation. Peel, I can't applaud you more for that
accurate analysis. I also want to welcome into our program
James Felton Keith Award winning engineer economist who was the
first black LGBTQQ person to run for the US Congress.
He lectures at the New York University in the Big
Ideas Course series. As an author and activist, his data
unions We've redefined the labor movement and personal data as
the neutral resource driving all corporate productivity. As an entrepreneur,
he established the first international standard certification for corporate diversity
and inclusion. His biopolitical philosophy, Inclusionism, is at the forefront
of human rights advocacy and international relations, and each week
he hosts the radio show Inclusionism in New York City.
James Felton Keith, Welcome forward to Jesse Jackson Junior Show.
Speaker 3: Thanks for having me, Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1: Guys and worldwide with p LD Silva, we've begun the conversation.
Of course, we'll dig into deeper issues when we come
forward at the eleven minute of the hour mark. But James,
I want to ask you a question about your sense
of the president's mental health, his capacity and his ability
to perform the functions of the job.
Speaker 4: Well, I've been watching his west speech at the Ward
Economic Forum, and a lot of his team members box
earlier today and as they built up towards yesterday.
Speaker 3: Look, I think for there have been a lot of psychologists.
Speaker 4: I'm an economist, not a psychologist, but there have been
a lot of psychologists to talk about how bad off
he is for the past.
Speaker 3: Few years, but I think his team is using it
to their advantage.
Speaker 4: I do think that his mental health has been degraded,
for lack of better words, but I think that it
is a strategic opportunity by the people who are behind him,
specifically the thinkers at institutions like the Hoover Institute, the
Cato Institute.
Speaker 3: They are using his dogged nature to.
Speaker 4: Steamroll over people, to steamroll over countries, rather to redesign
the global order and you know, renew poles if you will, Russian,
Chinese and American pole.
Speaker 3: I actually spent this.
Speaker 4: Morning on one with a bunch of the French leaders
who both talk about how he postured himself versus their
prime ministers and presidents respectively, even poking fun and laughing
at McCrone earlier this morning. So look, I think Trump
is definitely deranged, but I think we've always thought that
so much so that social media, in these bot farms,
are running bots against us to claim that anyone who
challenges the president's current state have what they will call
Trump derangement syndrome.
Speaker 3: And it's really bait.
Speaker 4: It's a switching of our language, our formal language, about
where he is to claim that apparently the masses of
us are deranged by thinking that his general presentation is dangerous.
Speaker 3: It's going to get people killed.
Speaker 1: I'm Jesse Jackson Junior listening to Jesse Jackson Junior Show
on KBO they talk fifteen to eighty. This is Worldwide
with Peel de Silva and our very special guest James
Felton Keith. More we come forward on kbla talk Junior
that's a junior jobs and a very special guest in
this hour is none other than James Felton Keith. I
do have a couple of questions that I like to
begin our program formerly with, and that is, if you
don't mind doctor de Silva sharing with us some of
your thoughts on the proper and appropriate commemoration in this
hour of Martin Luther King Jr.
Speaker 2: A great American and a great human being and a
wonderful leader who has said so many things that are
extremely pertinent for us today as we live in this
fractious society that has become America, and I think there
are so many lessons that we can learn as we
go forward, and the civil rights movement and Martin Luther
King a part and parcel of the fabric of what
makes America truly great.
Speaker 4: James Keith, Yeah, definitely, I echo what brother Pellis said.
What I would say is in remembering MLK is how
he was received older at the time of his death
in nineteen sixty eight, A lot of America did not
like to hear that he was that we still have
to speak now in this news. So in an effort
to not repeat our own things, I'd encourage everyone to
search their history, look up some of his own speeches,
but also look at the poet and how he was
received last year.
Speaker 1: Somebody's touching something, whatever you're doing, don't touch it. Yeah, yeah,
I'm sorry.
Speaker 4: But yeah now, yeah, Look, we're getting ready to move
into February and you know, hopefully have a whole month
to reflect on again how MLK was treated in his
last days. But again I would encourage everyone to go
back and look at the polling of how MLK was
received in nineteen sixty eight. And again it has not
lost on me that he was not even a forty
year old man when he was assassinated.
Speaker 1: You know, I want to comment on this for just
a moment and reflect on it, and then I have
some more probing questions because James Felton Keith is also
in a campaign for Congress, and I want to find
out what he's finding out on the campaign trail, what
he has learned so far. But before I get there,
I want to comment on the character of doctor King,
and from my perspective, the christ like character. It's easy
for those of us who are Christians who go to
church and say Jesus carried the sins of the world.
Jesus carried the weight and the burden of the world,
But we never talk about Jesus's mental state, and who
was willing to carry the weight of the world could
easily find himself and probably regularly found himself in some
garden of gethesemone, some depression, some deep dark space, and
of course he elevated out of that deep dark space
into the kind of leader that we've come to appreciate
and a moral leader, son of God, and all the
attributes that we give to the man who emerged out
of that deep dark space. When I think about Martin
Luther King Junior, and I'll say this very quickly, we
don't fully appreciate the nature of his personal suffering is
to understand suffering of other people. And I can only think, James,
that in this moment, we don't have the kind of
leadership today that actually is capable of saying it's my fault.
It's my fault to own the behavior of what's going wrong.
I was reflecting upon conversation I had earlier with some
of my own friends who were talking about high property
taxes and high this and high that, and I found
myself slipping because some of it. I said to myself,
it's my fault that I will that I wasn't in
a position to do something about it. In other words,
I'm not prepared to kick the can down the road
or blame somebody else. I had solutions that I wanted
to bring forward to take the burden off of people,
and the fact that those solutions have not been completed,
it's my fault. And I wish I could hear more
from Congressman James Keith, from senators and from presidents, and
from moral leaders who own their role that they've played,
not just in preaching to us, but acknowledging that some
of what, and maybe even more than some of what,
a significant amount of what's going wrong in our world.
It's our fault and Perry the burden of the world.
James Felton Keith. That is the beginning of the moral
crusade that I think Martin Luther King Junior is identified
with James Felton Keith.
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I totally agree.
Speaker 4: One thing I like to say, even if if we
put ourselves up for leadership roles, one of the burdens
of leadership is, even if it's a community's fault or
a systematic fault, it is necessary for the leader to
absorb some of that blame.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: A quote that I like to use a lot is
that we are responsible yet not guilty. It is necessary
for society to reckon with itself, for communities, whether they
be small or large, to reckon with themselves by assuming
some level of responsibility, even if they exist in a
broader system that might be more guilty of their current state.
I think that one thing that MLK was available to do,
one thing he was available to do in the Vein
of Jesus and what Jesus's story is told, that he
was available to do was to absorb a lot.
Speaker 3: Of that responsibility.
Speaker 4: And the problem with the leadership that we have available,
not only in this country but in most places these days,
is that they're not available to absorb and acknowledge the
responsibility that we have as custodians of this place, of
this planet, of each other.
Speaker 3: It's a moral calling, and quite frankly, the.
Speaker 4: Morality that used to exist in not only American politics
but other politics seems to have gone away.
Speaker 1: And we've been replaced by a blame culture.
Speaker 4: If you want what's pointing, there's that spider Man meme
that everyone used, where everyone's blaming everyone else. Quite frankly,
I'll just add, I think when leaders are available to
absorb responsibility, I think that their followers, their community, their
voters are more than willing to work with them to
see that, to see the humanity in that Trump is
as to having the loudest microphone, not only in the
United States but on the planet. Right now, it's teaching
a generation that you can get away with just finger
pointing and accepting no blame for anything. And it may
not seem like it, but it is trickling down to
the leaders on the right and the left, where everyone
is just pointing, and it's turning into such solation banter
around how we actually fix the problems that we are
I would say, again, responsible but not guilty, for we
still have to work on these things. Even if we
didn't create the problems as they exist today. We have
to accept responsibility to work on them. And there's no
one telling us that we have to that. It has
not been our ethic in this time, in this generation.
Speaker 1: And that's James. You decided to put your hat in
the ring to run for Congress, and I'm assuming that
part of that ethic is that you are prepared to
carry the burden of other people their healthcare, their taxes,
their security, their schools. Share with us. That pivotal moment
where you made that decision.
Speaker 3: Oh wow, ah.
Speaker 4: I believe it was at this point about ten, maybe
nine or ten years ago, and it just came from
seeing us suffering around me in my community. I grew
up in poor communities, I live in poor communities. I
still live in Central Harlem right now. I grew up
on the west side of Detroit. And again, it makes
me think about the ethic that my grandmother gave me.
She was a Muslim woman, but she was really the
one telling me that you are responsible even if you're
not guilty.
Speaker 3: It is your responsibility to work on these problems.
Speaker 4: The moment I decided that I would participate is when
I would lobby our current elected officials with tools and
tactics that they can use and even support that I
would bring to them, whether it be financially or otherwise,
and they were unable to hear it.
Speaker 3: They didn't feel like there was enough incentive to work
on hyper local problems.
Speaker 4: So I think for any of us who feel like
out there in the world, any of us listening to
this show, who feel like it is our responsibility, you
may not have all the answers today, but I think
it's worth starting to participate today to build your base
and figure out how to actually make the changes that
you want to see. I think about ten years ago,
I realized I was just getting older and it was
time to participate in a more deliberate way.
Speaker 3: So now I'm.
Speaker 5: Here congratulations on that. You know, to be moved, you
quantity to see it, and then to be compelled to
do something about it. Is to be in a valley
and to offer people hope. Is to imagine the idea
of a mountaintop, and to dedicate yourself to that proposition
is what doctor King understood better than most. It isn't
just about the last speech he gave or the intonations
in the way he gave it. This man understood suffering
and was capable of caring and willing to carry the
burden of people who could not speak for themselves.
Speaker 1: And he was he was alright with that, He was
satisfied with that, and he was comfortable in that space.
I can't get out of my mind a clip that
Gina played yesterday on the show, and it was at
the hour that he was receiving the Nobel Peace Prize.
He did not accept it on behalf of himself, but
the twenty million negroes in America who were weathering the
long dark night of the consequences of slavery, discrimination, racism, militarism, materialism,
who found themselves permanently trapped in a situation. And he
decided to give eyes and ears and tongue and sensibilities
and sensory central nervous system energy to articulating and being
that person in that for us in that hour, and
no one could articulate it better.
Speaker 3: I agree.
Speaker 4: Well, the thing is that now there's forty million of
us and we're in arguably even more dire state from
a property, from an income, from a social and economic
power standpoint, again because of what I would assumler about
two generations of a lack of a sense of responsibility.
Speaker 3: So we got a lot of work to do.
Speaker 4: We basically have to rebuild black infrastructure to survive in
this country, and it will be a road map for
anyone looking to participate outside of this country. You know,
when I think about the great leaders of the African
National Congress who are finally in control of South Africa.
Their first president, there was a great book written about them,
was a follower of everything that Booker T.
Speaker 3: Washington did.
Speaker 4: And then fast forward many many decades, Nelson Mandela was
regularly referencing what MLK was doing.
Speaker 3: Black people, being of a consistent minority in this country.
Speaker 4: Are the loudest voice because of how we interact with
media to the rest of the world of how to,
if it at all possible, climb out of the grave
that we were seemingly born into. And so I think
we have to carry the torch and be as loud
of voices as we can about our responsibility for a
situation that we are not necessarily guilty for So.
Speaker 1: James, you're in New York. Bear Mamdani was successful running
a campaign on the questions of affordability. What have you
been seeing for New Yorkers and what are you seeing
across this country?
Speaker 3: Well, he's a week or two in.
Speaker 4: I actually lead a coalition here that's fighting for a
housing subsidy uptown because we've had a lot of displacement,
about sixty thousand black individuals, in particular in Harlem. And
I think what we're seeing is about a hope that
things are possible. I think for so long we thought
that it was really impossible to get things done, and
so we haven't seen a lot of the property and
opportunities transpire yet, because again we're about a week or
two in. But I see a whole lot more hope,
not only uptown but across the city about what we
can achieve. And there are a lot more offers of
hands on deck, and I think that's what's necessary. There's
a lot more people taking responsibility for the circumstance again
that we are not necessarily guilty for, and so I'm
hopeful about what we'll be able to achieve. Mom Donnie
has the point that a few of our partners who
are on this. We have an interfaith Commission for Housing Equality,
and they're right there front and center discussing how we
attack affordability, at least from a housing standpoint, but we're
also focused from an education standpoint, from a healthcare standpoint,
and from a direct income standpoint. There's a new conversation
about guaranteed incomes that MLKA was also a champion of,
which has not been a conversation in the biggest, wealthiest
city in America. But it is a new conversation that
needs to be had with some dignity about why we're
owed this income.
Speaker 3: And that's new.
Speaker 1: It certainly is, and I haven't heard it beyond New York,
but New York tends to be a trendsetter, given that
before the Mumdanie election, we hadn't heard very much about
affordability until he shocked the Democratic Party and its establishment.
I'm Jesse Jackson Jr. You're listening to Worldwide with p
l Da Silva and our very special guest, James Felton
Keith More on KBLA Talk fifteen to eighty. When we
come forward, I'm Jesse Jackson Junior. Welcome forward to the
Jesse Jackson Junior Show. It's Wealthy Wednesdays and worldwide with
doctor p l Da Silva. Our very special guest in
this hour is James Felton Keith. And just before we
go back to our very special guest, the founder of
Inclusion Score and author of Inclusionism, Gina has a clip
that she like us to play. She's not ready for
the clipbright anyway, Yes, James and Keith. Another question, James.
Trump took one point two five million dollars from your
organization that Biden had promised, and now you have to
raise money outside of the country. Tell us a little
bit more about Inclusion Score and how our supporters, our
listeners can be supportive of your organization and how they
can reach you.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So yeah, just at the top of this year, Trump
shut off money that we were promised by Joe Biden
in twenty twenty four that was supposed to materialize now.
So if anyone is not familiar, the International Organization for Standards,
which really stood up after World War Two, exist to
create a consensus or standards for how we do everything.
There's a standard for the textiles and your shirt, there's
a standard for the fuel in your vehicle, you name it,
and as of twenty twenty one, there's a standard for diversity,
equity and inclusion and how we implement it at organizations.
By organizations, I mean everything, cities, companies, universities, you name it.
It's ratified across one hundred and sixty three countries, and
my company Inclusion Score serves as the certifying body in
thirty two countries on five continents. And the Biden administration
was leveraging the success of our use of the standard
in different types of organizations to push it through American
trade associations specific to STEM like the American Society for
Mechanical Engineers, Civil Engineers, you name it. And it had
created a faith which the American government often does with
its investment, and a snowball effect across the globe for
other countries and companies to invest in this. Trump just
shut off what Biden promised, and it's really putting even
our campaign into question because there's only enough time in
a day, and you know this from running for office.
You know it costs about a million dollars and so
there's enough time to have conversations in a day to
raise that money to either run for office, or to
scale this global work. So I've spent the past week
with a lot of advisors, attorney general, a couple of governors,
a four star general, a mayor of a big American city,
a few diplomats to really explore what they thought would
be the most impactful to what we were talking about earlier,
to kind of take responsibility for our current situation which
we may not necessarily be guilty for.
Speaker 3: And so we've got some decisions to make.
Speaker 4: But yeah, Trump stole more than a million dollars from
the global community that was implementing the global standard for DEI,
and not only Corporate America, but Corporate World. I just
happen to be the chair of that organization, which we
call Inclusion Score for short. But the mouthful is the
ISO three zero four one five Diversity and Inclusion Service
Management Forum.
Speaker 3: I know that's a mouthful.
Speaker 1: It is how can you support your organization?
Speaker 4: You know, I would go to inclusionscore dot org or
I would google ISO three zero four one five.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 3: People can get trained, people can join us.
Speaker 4: Look, we're working with you know, governments in Canada and
France and South Africa and India and Mexico and Peru
and business leaders in all those places, all the twenty
seven European states right now. I think what I would
say the pushback against Trump is to use the standard
in this post DEI world to re establish how we
get at the very least engagement and belonging, or some
people just call fairness and capital distribution. That's what we're
really about. So if people check us out at inclusionscore
dot org, they can see what we do, how we
do it, and where we do it. But it's a
global movement to really establish what I like to call inclusionism.
I think capitalism is hacking itself into a more inclusive
state because it is absolutely necessary for to stay afloat.
Speaker 3: We have to.
Speaker 4: Include women, we have to include black people, we have
to include all the various people of color, disabled people,
pregnant people, all the twenty seven protected classes in order
for the economy to buffer itself sea.
Speaker 3: Everything we do is at inclusionscore dot org.
Speaker 4: But I think the support comes from companies and government
officials being willing to stand up and say we absolutely
absolutely need a deliberate type of equity and inclusion if
we're going to sustain the economy that we've become accustomed.
Speaker 1: To pel let me ask you a question. I got
this New York Times article. I think it is that
you send me. We're going to come back to that
in the moment. I think Gina has a clip that
you'd like to play.
Speaker 7: Right now, someone needs to stand up and say, damn it,
what we have in common matters more. We cannot throw
the legacy of this country away. We cannot destroy other
people's trust in us. We need to preserve that and
find a way to work together and not humiliate other
people just so we can win. We got to just
calm down and try to pull people together again. That's
what I think.
Speaker 1: I found that interesting in that when you sent me
this article, this could end very badly. A human rights
lawyer fears a new age of impunity. Philip Sands, one
of the world's pre eminent human rights attorneys who grew
up in the shadow of a variableek time, share with
us why that is so important and why we need
to understand that right now.
Speaker 8: A question that we had to ask as people who
are believers, who believe in a greater good, who believe
in God. What makes us different from the beasts in
the jungle?
Speaker 3: What makes us human?
Speaker 8: What's our empathy, and these are things that are incredibly important.
So if you use power with impunity and you crush
the little people, you're neither Christian, no nor a good person.
You are just another imperialist, a colonialist. Things that we
have seen in the past of human history which has
gone badly for the people who have been affected. Just
look at this country alone. There was a genocide that
got rid of the indigenous people from this country, and
there have been many such genocides all over them, all
over the world, and most recently in Gaza with the
israel Is carrying out what we would call the Gaza genocide,
and they're doing it with impunity, supported, aided and embedded
by the United States of America.
Speaker 3: And this is not good.
Speaker 8: It's not good for our psyche, it's not good for
our spiritual well being. And all people who are believers,
we need to stand up believers are nonbelievers. We need
to stand up for what is right. You know, when
we were little, we were told what was right and
what was wrong, and now it's the worse. What's wrong
is right and what right is wrong. It's just a
crazy way of doing things.
Speaker 3: And it's like.
Speaker 8: Gangsters are running the show. You know the rubber barons
they are.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Will you comment on what President Clinton had to
say that in that clip about the need to stand up?
Speaker 8: Yes, we we the people who want to see good
things happen and who are un apologetically progressive.
Speaker 3: We need to come together.
Speaker 8: We need to stand shoulder to shoulder and make sure
that this country does not evolve into us, which is
where we're headache if Trump is allowed to do everything
that he is doing without any control. And that's why
the midterm elections are so so so important, so that
we stand shoulder, We go and we vote, and we
vote with our conscience.
Speaker 1: I do see inclusionism as a movement towards acknowledging that
historically our system, James locked people out, and now we
are fighting not only domestically but globally to let them in. James.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Look, I think we have to be deliberate about
letting them man again.
Speaker 3: It's the only thing that sustains us.
Speaker 4: It's really about glowing growing excuse me, that movement of
progressive inclusion. My only issue with Bill Clinton and the
clip is he should be the one standing up and
doing it. He's a man of faith, he's a former
leader of this nation. We need a direct opposition, and
sometimes it's people with the loudest megaphone are the most
famous people in the room that have to be the
one to blow the whistle or ring the bell, if
you will.
Speaker 1: So you know I've been as we have. I've been
reading a book by Jack Harden called Project twenty twenty
five Manuscript. I've also been looking at the Innovative Strategies
for National Success Project twenty twenty five, the Heritage Foundation
and Project twenty twenty five explained chapter by chapter. And
I'm wondering, and I want to talk with both of
you about this when our show comes forward. I'm wondering,
when are we going to see a democratic version Project
twenty twenty eight that is as detailed about where we're
going as this is detailed about where they are trying
to take us to. More from Jesse Jackson Junior on
the KBLA Top fifteen eighty. When we come from Jesse Jackson.
Speaker 9: Junior went forward to Jesse ken Show University, Welcome with
Days and Worldwide will kill DESLFA, who has over twenty
years of experience in backroom diplomacy, mediation and negotiation.
Speaker 1: He's the co founder with Professor W. Lakshman of the
University of Colombo, of the International War Related Trauma and
Humanitarian Intervention Trust, setting up psycho social training programs for
practitioners serving combatants non combatants during Sri Lanka's Civil war.
Pel Welcome forward to the show. And Jameson Keith is
our very special guest and award winning engineer and economists
who was the first black LGBTQ person to run for
the US Congress. He lectures at the New York University
in the Big Ideas course series. As an author and activist,
his data unions redefined the labor movement and personal data
as a neutral resource driving all all corporate productivity. James
Felton Keith, welcome forward to the Jesse Jackson Junior Show.
Speaker 3: Thanks for having me, Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1: Guys, gentlemen, while I have you both for the remaining
a few minutes of the show, and James Felton, you
need to know that we reserve the last two or
three minutes of our program for our very special guest
to give the nation a word of hope. So I'll
give you a moment to think about that. I need
to hear some answers to this Project twenty twenty five things.
Pl As you keep talking about let's vote. We've got
to vote. We need to vote in order to stop
Donald Trump's movement against the people. But the fact of
the matter is, I'm trying to hold this up as best. Oh,
here we go, here we go. I got a hold
closer to myself. For those of you who are doing
the podcast, I've got several of these Project twenty twenty
five books. What I didn't fully appreciate is just how
detailed it is in every sector of the government where
they have sought to dismantle it. They're just not doing
this ragtag. They are following a blue print. Now, I
want to know where is the Democratic Party Project twenty
twenty eight blueprint department by department, agency by agency, office
by offices, clandestine, covert, overt, wherever this stuff is taking
place that Donald Trump has done that restores some trust
and some honor to the people's government. Who's running on
an alternative platform and not just their personality. Why don't
we start with pl D silver.
Speaker 8: Unfortunately, because the Heritage Foundation and others that put so
much of money before Trump got elected, and they actually
interviewed how many fifty five thousand people before Trump got
elected to put them in various slobs in his administration,
and they they spend a lot of time, energy and
money to come out with this project twenty twenty five.
Some people thought it was za and they didn't kind
of take it seriously.
Speaker 3: But it is serious and we can see the effects.
Speaker 8: Of this Project twenty twenty five is a giant wrecking
ball for what we know as the United States of America. Unfortunately,
the Democrats are not up to speed. There is no
program and that's the that's the problem that in order
to counter something so power and so detail, there has
to be a counterpoint and that has not happened on
the Democratic side, and they seem to be all in
disarray and that is a huge problem. So yes, they
may win the mid terms, that they may win elections thereafter,
you know, after Trump, but it'll take thirty years at
least to restructure the whole of the federal government system.
That's what Rearmiral Norman Robert Hayes said, that's in his estimate.
You know, he was director of the National Security Agency's
Operations Center at the NSA and for thirty something years.
He was an intelligence professional, retiring as the director of
Intelligence at the European Command, and he said it'll take
thirty years at least to try to put the federal
government back together again after Trump is gone.
Speaker 1: He made that statement having seen the president's behavior in
a single year. With three more years to go, we
may be sixty years, we may be ninety years away.
So the question I have, and then I'm going to
direct it to James Peel, you hit a point that
just about threw me out of my chair.
Speaker 6: They interviewed fifty five thousand people that they brought to
the government with them, and while we're watching this tweeting
clown show every single day, there are fifty five thousand
people who now work for the government who are carrying
out the agenda of this plan. I have not heard
a single Democrat say that we are going to come
to Washington with fifty five thousand people we have interviewed
ready to replace them and point our union in a
different direction.
Speaker 1: James Felton Keith watch congressional candidate. I'm putting some heat
on you.
Speaker 3: It's a hell of a question. I'll say this. I
think the proper project that we need to coin is.
Speaker 4: Some of my peers have been working on it, where
these mid forties folks who feel like this is our responsibility,
but we're going to Project twenty twenty nine, not twenty eight,
because that's when we would into power, similar to them
focusing on twenty five, not the election of twenty four.
And some peers of mine have organized a political action
committee to do exactly what Project twenty twenty five did,
per what pl mentioned called the American equity First and
they have a few iees that they're working on, like
Equity Democrats, etc.
Speaker 3: And they think that the core word is the term equity.
Speaker 4: And if you notice in Trump's administration, from the Department
of Justice to the Department of Defense or now the
Department of War and others, they've deliberately attacked that idea
of equity. If we're going to have a democracy that
is formidable, that can stand itself up over and over
and over again after attacks from a consolidated conservative group,
then we have to adequately distribute equity throughout the economy.
And that means something quite different than what we would
normally talk about with regards to equality. Quality is a
bit more abstract, but equity is tangible, it's definable. It's
an incentive to be at the table, even if I
don't like you and your perspective at the table. And
so what we've been devising based on my platform is,
first and foremost, how we distribute that equity. And I
think that our best playbook for Project twenty twenty nine
is really coming out of the EU. And what they've done,
first and foremost is established a new property right to
give everyone a piece of the.
Speaker 3: Away from us.
Speaker 4: The second thing is a large data tax to basically
ran in all the companies and governments that have run
amok away from us in taking our productivity away, meaning
they're mining our data, they're building productive companies, and they've
locked us out. From a wage standpoint, wages are no
longer the trick and last but not least, and we'll
see this around thirty eight of our US states states
at twenty twenty ratified the Equal Rights Amendment, and in
twenty twenty four Joe Biden acknowledged it, but he didn't
do anything with it. So the last but not least
thing that we need to ensure that our deliberate equity
and inclusion is cemented in twenty twenty nine is a
series of leaders, now just a president, a series of
leaders that have the audacity to do something. And by
being audacious, I mean things like jail Trump and his cronies.
I mean things like ratify the Equal Rights Amendment, not
only at the federal level, but allowing each state to
exert its state rights to protect the people in that state.
Speaker 3: And then, last, but not least, is to.
Speaker 4: Distribute, not redistribute, but distribute the equity that we're already
owed from this productive economy. We think that there's a
way to break that out in detail and the way
that Project twenty twenty five did.
Speaker 3: We have some books.
Speaker 4: Forthcoming, but I would look up the American Equity first pack.
It plans the public a lot more detail on this.
But again, if we elect another Joe Biden, who I
used to generally like, or Hillary or even Barack or Comma,
and they fail to do things like jail the culprits
a Project twenty twenty five and indemnify people for their
valuable contribution to this economy, then we lose everything. And
so we see this.
Speaker 1: James Felton Keith, a man after my own heart, talking
about constitutional amendments and ratifying the era. I filed it
twelve times when I was in the Congress of the
United States. You've been listening to worldwide with Peal to
Silver Peel. Thank you for being on the show, and
I want to thank James Felton Keith for being on
the show as well.
Speaker 3: Thanks guys.
Speaker 1: More on KBLA Talk fifteen to eighty when we come forward,
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