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Speaker 1: Hello, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome back for the last

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time sadly the and Or review. I am the door

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Closer Tress. Now I'm joined.

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Speaker 2: By I'm the one who lived for Compatser.

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Speaker 3: The five to five Staylorfield.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, whatever the fuck that means. But we are here

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to talk about and Or episode ten to twelve, season two.

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Ak this series finale. Man, it sucks. We knew it

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was coming. Obviously, it's been a kind of moved to

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a flash type of space because you know, they multiple

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weeks as far as three episodes, which I hope that

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doesn't happen because I know they're doing that iron Heart

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and there's some scoop It's it's like, oh Disney really

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likes this is like twenty yes. But when the scooper

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is like, oh they really like this three episode four. Man,

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I don't want everything going forward to be this. You know,

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it's this is sometimes a strain of life. But we're

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here to talk about it. What a journey? Journey is

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started in twenty fifteen. Oh, I guess twenty sixteen was

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seeing and Or on Rogue one. Obviously check out our

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review there, our commentary track. Lots of good actually did

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we ever do commentary track for Rogue one or do we.

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Speaker 3: Just do the episode the episodes?

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Speaker 2: We might have to do that at.

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Speaker 1: Some point, Yeah, we might. That's definitely something we had

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like a rule after COVID and it slipped away. We'll

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get more into in August. But as of editing stuff,

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like man, we gotta get back to at least once

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a quarter doing it in person cast because there's some

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good stuff there.

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Speaker 2: On the twenty four hour stream Rogue one.

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Speaker 1: Oh we've done solo yet either, just all of it.

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But yeah, maybe we're not completely done with Ander. But

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as far as new content, seems like we are so

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as usual. We're gonna give us your or give you

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are non square thoughts. We'll take an ad break and

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then we'll dive right into spoilers, and yeah, there's tons

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to talk about, even though it's a show that has

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many avenues that we knew were like where there are going,

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how it's gonna end. Still a few fun reveals, fun conclusions.

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I guess I can't say fun. This was definitely a

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dark three episode. It was a pretty downer and that

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was like last week is pretty down too, so his

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fucking show. But yeah, Patser, what did you think this

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is an ending to and or unfortunately they said no more,

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this is the run. We'll see what we get after

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the fact from Star Wars. But what do you think

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did it close it out? Well? You felt a little

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lacking just right? Where are you goldilocks?

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Speaker 2: Goldilocks? I mean yeah for this, for this adventure for

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me through and or being like every week pretty much

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a ten out of ten, like a hard ten out

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of ten. I was definitely mixed emotions going into this

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one because I'm just expecting great quality because that's that's

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been the bar. But knowing that it's at the end

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is just obviously upsetting. I think just because it's been

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so spectacular and I think these episodes are really great,

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but throughout I feel like this was the biggest hitter

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of Man, there's so much more meat on the bone here,

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like yeah, like like I think that was a feeling too,

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where it's like I'm I'm way more upset that there's

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more juice on that lemon as opposed to like it

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just ending here like like I like, Okay, I can

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accept this is a two season show, but knowing how

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much we could still get out just in like in

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these three episodes alone, let alone this whole season. And

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I feel like I've definitely felt that way through each

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three parter that we've been getting week to week. But

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uh yeah, because I think there is a lot of

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stories that just kind of abruptly end and it just

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seems like, well, that's all. That's all the time we

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got here, folks, like we're going to the main event,

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which is you know, leading into well, I was gonna

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say episode four, Yeah, but yeah, no, like just judging

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it as it is, I think these are just still

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really really amazing episodes, particularly like part well, I guess

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one of this adventure episode nine, ten? Is that what

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it was really heavy emotional episode, just really filling in

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character to not spoil anything, but yeah, I know. I

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humorous spots, you know, my sports around K two. I

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the humor, and yeah, like a lot of just suspense.

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I'm hopeful that lightning will strike twice and we might

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not get continuation of and Or story in the Star

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Wars universe, but I still think that we can get

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shows in the Star Wars universe to this quality and

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for this audience hopeful. Maybe I'm just a dumb optimist,

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but I don't know. The Cree came here hopeful just

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like me, and hopefully I'm not just Emperor Drogue for

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the remainder of the Star Wars lifetime.

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Speaker 1: Where the fuck is this is gonna be me next

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year May watching Mandalorian Brogu thinking about and Or pics

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Gi Dress Cereal Luth and just like said, oh my god,

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Speaker 2: Be so worried if I'm in the theater and I

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just get that popped in my head, like, oh, I'm

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just Emperor Drogue right now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, mister Field.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this this arc a comedy by surprise. I did

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not know how we were gonna end, aside from the

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fact that obviously it was gonna lead up to a

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specific Star Wars movie without spoiling anything, but there's a

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lot that you gotta.

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Speaker 1: I know, think it's a spoiler to say this leads

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up to Rogue one. I think that's like the least

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spoiler thing you can say about this show. Like from

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episode one and it's like, oh, it's probably an end.

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Speaker 3: We're leads and Derise of Skylalker.

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Speaker 1: I survived Picks.

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Speaker 4: I think, like you mentioned their character, it's just that

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first episode of this arc, it's super emotional and it

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does not hold back, and it gets it gets up,

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it ups and ups and ups, and when you get

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to there's one scene in particular in the second episode

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which I can't wait to just highlight it because I thought,

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holy fuck, I can't believe I'm seeing this.

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Speaker 3: Like Star Wars has certain levels.

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Speaker 4: Of violence, and it's you know, it has that level

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of Star Wars isms to it, but the way that

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they did this one scene, it just made me think, man,

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that like it fits because it's in the Star Wars universe,

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but at the same time, like this is just I

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don't know, like it's just it feels detached from Star

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Speaker 3: The way they filmed it. I was thinking, Fuck, this

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is just terrifying and freaky.

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and this is just another iteration of just something that

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in Star Wars because it's just when you see these

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types of things, and Star Wars's you know, you got

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they are all different types of like conflict. But this

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just scene is just it's It's gonna be steared in

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just terrifying, but I digress. Everything with this in the

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way it concluded, was really really powerful, and I really

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love how it sets up everything with Rogue One. Now

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Empire and Revenge of the Sith for me and being

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my favorite Star Wars movie. I just cycle between the

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three because they're just they're all so fucking good, and

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I love that this has amped and amplified Rogue One's

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story and its characters tenfold.

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Speaker 3: But it is a shame, you know.

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Speaker 4: I wish that Rogue One was as much as I

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love Rogue One, it was able to establish itself with

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everything that they had established in the show. But I

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guess that's where, Okay, well, a show can do so

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Speaker 3: Than a movie can.

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Speaker 4: And I know that's something you've preached Travis before, because

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just you get so much more time, you get a

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bigger sandbox to work with, and you don't have that

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sense of rushing a massive story within a two hour timeframe.

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Speaker 1: So I can understand that even though I kind of

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not Dylan, he's not here, sorry. I think there was

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a bit of a oh, yeah, we gotta get moving

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get a Rogue one like it. Yeah, I wish that's

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the only thing that certain elements of lucasfilm have made

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this into a five season show to a two season show,

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Speaker 4: So I mean, let's just say, like if they were

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doing five seasons. Would that just be like each season

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you're watching the long form version of like a like

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well we've been our recap video, that's what. And that's

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under selling it because I don't think these episodes are

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to that level. I just mean, if you were to say, okay,

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just fantastic. It delivers. Like I said, my only con,

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it's not even enough to bring it down because what

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the situation is. Yet it feels like we rush through

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a few things. But man, this is just some some

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great TV. And yeah, it's it's kind of like what

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but it just continues. I think they delivered here. There's

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still some great moments here, some great character stuff. There's

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they did this. Then they didn't, so I was like, okay,

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just starting a ball. I was like, oh my god,

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this show. That's I mean somehow as I just I'll

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reiter it last week. When the show started, we knew

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everywhere everything was gonna happen. Everywhere was going for the

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most part, right, There's certain characters that we newly met,

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but we've kind of figured like they're probably gonna meet

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a bad end, and you know what most of them do,

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the journey to get there. And yeah, it was fantastic.

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Speaker 1: There's stuff in there where that feels like if we've

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the chat like there's some great quotable stuff here, multiple characters.

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don't know. But we did our stars ranking, like of

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our projects and movies and characters. It's so tough because

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what the show has done. And yeah, that's where I

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hope we get something. Obviously can't be about these characters again,

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but something in the same ilk as I've said before,

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hope ever does decides. You know what, We're gonna give

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the gil Royce as much money as possible and get

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them back. We don't care if Tony gilroy says he's

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not a fan of Star Wars. We don't care if

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people think this is too mature. We gotta get them back.

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dollars And I'm just completely fucked. But you know, I

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will at least always enjoy this. And now I'm this

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will do this week, and the same way, It's like,

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the two seasons the show in Rogue one, it's kind

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of like its own trilogy. Now in a sense because

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like this season and Rogue one, but it still feels

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missions and then this is the origin of how we

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get to Rogue one. So it's like that's a much

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longer trilogy, that's like a twenty five hour trilogy. But

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that's where I kind of have my mind where it's

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it's a big commitment. But and maybe I'll just want

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the little juice after to watch this. But to me,

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it's gonna be hard to ever want to watch Rogue

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one and not watch these two seasons first, you know.

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they made this show, So yeah, I can. I think

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it's gonna be a lot praise to night. I had

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some fun moments with it that we already tell about

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giv chaen and there's other stuff I want to bring up here,

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not I not every Star Wars can be this as

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far as quality, but I really hope we get something

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in the ballpark, you know, if I can get something

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that's like seventy five percent like this, that would be fantastic.

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So yeah, no, it's it's up there as like we've

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said our sod before at least, and you guys might

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agree with like best Disney content Disney plus Star Wars. It's, uh,

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they really did something special here, and it's kind of

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a shame that's over, but it happened, you know, so

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at least that's the thing.

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the aspect of this being like a prequel to the

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story of Rogue one and pretty much just the main

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episodes like overall, just like kicks us off on episode

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four obviously the events that picks up right from Rogue one,

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and I think best case scenario with a prequel is

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it supplements, like you know, the original story, like it

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just it it's not just a good telling of their origin,

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it like actually adds to the original story. I think

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it's best case scenario from a prequel story, and this

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obviously does that in many ways in my opinion. But

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I think this also just like like refreshed my interest

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in the Dark Times. Like I think the Dark Times

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has just been so like the main focus of so

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many stories and like you know, it's just been thrown

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in there so much, but like the way that this

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story was told and just tackling about like you know,

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the early kindling of the rebellion and how fragile it is,

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and like this is before Luke faces off against Darth

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Vader and the Empire, like like this is just like

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the early early process of it, but it just the

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whole idea of the rebellion versus the Empire. Like I

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just feel so much like I got a whole fresh

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coat of paint on this story that I I've you know,

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I know really well, like I've seen those movies so

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many times and just like dove into other stories set

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around that. But I feel like this just did a

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really good job at kind of just bringing my my

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interest in the Dark Times back. And maybe that's bad

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things now it's like, oh, I'll take more Dark Times

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as opposed to like other stories that other areas of

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the Star Wars world that we can jump into, but yeah, no,

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I just did a good job at Star Wars overall.

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a lot of other dark Time stuff if you were

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to put it all together, and like look at this

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content with everything it's you know, it's tough, you know,

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but this definitely in an era that I don't care

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about at least made me care, which is definitely a

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feat to do so.

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Speaker 2: And then I guess also looking at the glass half full.

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Since this is only two seasons, I can easily throw

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this in if I want to do a Star Wars

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like I'm not real, I'm not well, I haven't actually

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seen all Clone Wars, but you know, I'm not gonna

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throw that in. If I want to binge the whole

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Star Wars story.

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Speaker 3: You could skip most of the seasons.

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Speaker 2: Clone Wars, just like what like the great show.

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Speaker 1: Hey, everyone talks to Kirk when I talked to you

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about how great Clone Wars is, and you just can

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get most of the seasons, but you don't. I don't different,

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So I don't call Clone Wars a great show. I

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think it has great arcs and episodes. I do not

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think overall. I think that like Taylor that grew up

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with the prequels, it's just like I fucking love the

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Jedis and the Clones and all that stuff. Like I

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get it that like the people that like Taylor, and

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it's nothing wrong. But people that have like Revenge of Sith,

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that's their top one. Yes, for them, it's that. But

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for me, like, don't even talk about Clone Wars in

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the same breath as and or you know, fucking nope

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the show. God, yeah, come at me, Clones.

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Speaker 3: You can't.

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Speaker 4: It's it's an animated show first of all, compared to

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compared to a live action I mean, Clone Wars, they're

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they're doing some very zeny things.

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Speaker 3: But you could pick and choose some of the later

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arcs where it's like.

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Speaker 1: The last season, the last three episodes. You can watch

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the no I I agree, there's some stuff in there.

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It's just yeah, it's not like this where it's a

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full meal. You know, it's just a bunch of little

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candy and then you don't feel good after, like, oh

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I et too much candy.

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Speaker 3: You know, you just feel dirty.

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Speaker 1: Watch Colon War, Yeah, thanks, Flony anything else before we

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we did review Cocktail fun time. Yeah, So well, I

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guess we can start with some of these comments here

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just to see there you go boom here up there

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Sarah who's just hating on the show and the discord.

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You know, but that's claiky.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna take him back off.

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Speaker 1: Actually, yeah, you know what, you're no longer. We will

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refund you your support, you know everything like that. Let's

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see here. So uh, let's I'm gonna go here, because

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there's some I'm gonna go in order of some of

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these comments. Uh, Dedra, I want to talk about her

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first because man, uh this is where I'm of two minds,

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right because the show definitely and it's sorry, just just

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to say a kid Francisco said a Dedra on an

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Narcana five is epic, what an ending to that character.

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Her story is definitely one that feels, man that we've

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got a little more time. It's tough. We've talked about

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this before, right of like even follow up on the

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Gorman or Cereal stuff, it's like, well, you jump a

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year ahead, so it almost feels like out of places.

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All the Son of Diet starts like monologue about Syria

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or anything. Right, So but all that's a tough thing

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where it feels a little fast forward. But all these

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scenes are great and uh, yeah, she's looking for Axis,

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you know, like hey, Luthen. But unfortunately, I don't know

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if it's completely her fault, but I feel like she

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kind of lets something slip in. Oh god, what was

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the guy who is the guy who was the Luthan's rat?

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I can't remember his name. He has a bad Yannie

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or Alannie? Is that who your friends? Right? It's like, yeah, young,

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it's a freaking porn star name. But a lot happens started.

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But anyways, when.

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Speaker 2: Star Mustache, actually he does has some.

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Speaker 1: Good videos out there, but it's kind of revealed that

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some things let slip through the crat via her got

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to him, and that's where a lot of this information

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of the Death Star is getting out. Uh. Krenick interrogates

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here in a great scene. Again, that's another thing where

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we got cranic stuff. But man, I could have used

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absolutely way more creanic And this was a t I

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guess we need just started here. This interrogation scene was

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topped here because for a second they had almost convinced me.

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I was like, man, in a year, so has she

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become a spy because they were talking about it. Oh

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maybe that was her breaking point she turned she didn't,

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but there's few There's two moments when he puts her

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his like two fingers on her head and he's like,

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but you know a lot of young was logging your

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computer for three hours, and you just see the fear

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on her feels.

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Speaker 2: Like force powers for like a non est user like you.

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Feels like Darth Vader is doing like just some force

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manipulation or.

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Speaker 1: Her intimidation, you know. And then when he he's just

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man handling, which is like a very like little dick syndrome,

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like she can't do anything right, she can't fight back.

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But when he leaves the room and he picks her

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up on the face and says, we're better off without

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you and then throws her down, it's like Jesus Christ,

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in Rogue one, Like we saw Mike have some power,

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but like, but.

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Speaker 3: He was a bitch in Rogue one because he's target invader.

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00:22:04,599 --> 00:22:07,400
Speaker 1: He's weasley. So to see him think he's top dog again,

473
00:22:07,519 --> 00:22:09,680
could he use more for this interrogation scene was great?

474
00:22:09,759 --> 00:22:14,000
And just seeing uh the walls fall uh you know

475
00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:15,920
around Dedre was fantastic.

476
00:22:16,039 --> 00:22:19,720
Speaker 2: So yeah, no, I I I think just what we're

477
00:22:19,759 --> 00:22:23,960
like just comparing Kranick's appearance in the Rogue one role

478
00:22:24,039 --> 00:22:28,160
versus here and even earlier on in this season, like

479
00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:30,880
just seeing the different sides of him, and I think

480
00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:34,799
it's just a cool little insight into the uh like

481
00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:38,319
the power dynamic and how relative it is, you know,

482
00:22:38,559 --> 00:22:41,440
like like to Crinic and Dadre in that moment, like

483
00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:44,319
that's like she Palpatine to like a nobody, like she

484
00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:46,559
has no power and he is just I don't know

485
00:22:46,599 --> 00:22:47,920
what his rank is, but he's got a lot of

486
00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:50,799
fucking squares on his on his shirt there. But but

487
00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:54,680
but then later on, like it's just like he's like

488
00:22:54,839 --> 00:22:57,039
in comparison to another higher up, like he is that

489
00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:01,119
Dadra type character. And we see that with artyas and

490
00:23:02,599 --> 00:23:05,000
I can't remember his name, heret I think is his

491
00:23:05,079 --> 00:23:06,839
name the one that's kind of vying for that position.

492
00:23:08,039 --> 00:23:11,680
He's like a hilarious ending. I was laughing pretty heard

493
00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:16,319
at that, but uh no, just like the actual interrogation sequence,

494
00:23:16,599 --> 00:23:19,119
this is this is what I wanted from the Ben meddlsoon,

495
00:23:19,319 --> 00:23:21,400
like just appearance here, Like I think if we would

496
00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,440
have just got what we got in the earlier portions

497
00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:26,400
of the season. I was just like, oh, man, like

498
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:28,359
what a waste, Like he's just such a great actor,

499
00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:31,720
and I just want more of this character because he

500
00:23:31,839 --> 00:23:35,599
is such a different type of imperial officer compared to

501
00:23:35,599 --> 00:23:37,519
everyone else that we've seen in the show, and compared

502
00:23:37,559 --> 00:23:39,440
to even others that we've seen in the past. Like

503
00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:41,799
I guess there's moments when he kind of reminds me

504
00:23:41,839 --> 00:23:45,319
of U is it Hucks? Is that his name from

505
00:23:44,799 --> 00:23:47,720
h Like, yeah, sequel.

506
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:50,720
Speaker 1: You're saying like the other guy, not critic.

507
00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:54,960
Speaker 2: Right, I'm just saying, yeah, like from critic, I get

508
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:58,480
like some like similarities, mostly in like the Rogue One movie,

509
00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:00,839
not not really in this appearance. I'm saying, like the

510
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:03,480
different versions of an imperial officer, like I think the

511
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:07,400
Ben Mendelsohn cretic is his own. But then also there's

512
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:09,839
just other moments where they just have glimpses of like

513
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:14,160
isms of other imperial officers. But yeah, no, I'm kind

514
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,960
of getting off tangent digressing here, but no, just I

515
00:24:17,279 --> 00:24:19,799
love getting that moment of just him being so serious

516
00:24:19,839 --> 00:24:23,799
and just really you know, man handling dander here in

517
00:24:23,839 --> 00:24:26,440
this moment, and it was over for you. I didn't

518
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:28,240
think she was gonna get a redeeming moment. She had

519
00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:31,480
a moment of like helping out heret, which again, if

520
00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:33,720
we had a whole season of this, we probably could

521
00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:35,839
have explored that a little bit more.

522
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,799
Speaker 1: But not even a redeeming moment because she's just helping

523
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:39,880
MT to like an empire.

524
00:24:40,079 --> 00:24:42,599
Speaker 2: I know, I'm just like a redeeming for her. Yeah,

525
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:44,519
it wouldn't have been so over for you. Maybe it

526
00:24:44,519 --> 00:24:49,599
would have led to a different ending for her, but yeah,

527
00:24:50,039 --> 00:24:52,400
it's mostly just too much meat on the on the

528
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:53,799
on the bone at the end of the day for me,

529
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:54,880
with the data stuff.

530
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:58,359
Speaker 1: I hope no matter what, this was always the ending

531
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:00,400
for her because I thought last week I's talking about man,

532
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:02,480
you know, like and Or had her in his scopes,

533
00:25:02,559 --> 00:25:04,359
Like I can't wait for and Or fucking kill her

534
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,480
next week get to Dada And this is where for

535
00:25:06,559 --> 00:25:10,079
me because again it's coming up a long reviews. I'm

536
00:25:10,079 --> 00:25:12,440
always you know, I'm all for the death penalty, right,

537
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:15,039
but for in this situation, I wasn't for it in

538
00:25:15,079 --> 00:25:17,839
a certain review we just did for a Netflix show

539
00:25:17,839 --> 00:25:20,000
because like, oh this this is fitting here, and this

540
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:24,119
one I think to me is fitting because it. She's

541
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:27,440
having to spend life locked away by the people that

542
00:25:27,519 --> 00:25:30,799
she dedicate her whole life to. It's the ultimately, it

543
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:34,039
is a hundred times worse than death because at least

544
00:25:34,039 --> 00:25:36,599
there'd be some relief for her there. But she is

545
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:38,720
locked up in that same prison that fucking and Or

546
00:25:38,759 --> 00:25:40,920
And I'm so happy now that we got back there,

547
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,960
so happy. We never saw any circus's fucking face, nothing

548
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:48,359
as any circus. Yeah, or like when they opened the

549
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,759
cockpit on and Ord's ship at the end, he's like hey,

550
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,759
and then they just cut to black. But very happy

551
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:55,880
that that's just left up, because that, to me is

552
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,319
the right call there. But to me, this was like

553
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,640
better other than may be like her ending up with

554
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,920
fucking Sagrea and Sagara, like torturing the fuck at her.

555
00:26:05,079 --> 00:26:07,720
Maybe that'd be the best option. But the next option

556
00:26:07,799 --> 00:26:09,799
to that, as far as her being caught is they

557
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,240
just like they just turn on They turn on her

558
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:14,559
so quick, and it's like, at the end of the day,

559
00:26:15,319 --> 00:26:17,359
it's not that she was a spy and got caught.

560
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:19,960
She made some mistakes, which okay, obviously very bad. It's

561
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,240
because this is stuff leaning to the death Star, so again,

562
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:24,680
very bad. But she still was doing it. Try and

563
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:27,920
find a leak, and the leak is somebody like Luthan

564
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:30,599
who credited that. And that's the thing about the rebellion, right,

565
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:32,279
because eventually be able to talk about what we talked about

566
00:26:32,319 --> 00:26:34,400
lat week, like lu Khan and Leaut right, those are

567
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:37,519
the three, those trifecta. But like Luthen did a lot

568
00:26:37,519 --> 00:26:39,440
of damage to the Empire, and he started the ball

569
00:26:39,519 --> 00:26:42,480
rolling on Javin if you look at this uh history, right,

570
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,400
I'm sure Georgiac that's not my you know at all, Luke,

571
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:49,759
But like in are now Disney Star Wars, Luthen started

572
00:26:49,799 --> 00:26:52,480
the ball rolling on Yavin four and the Death Star

573
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:54,839
and everything like that. So it is a situation where

574
00:26:55,559 --> 00:26:58,720
she's she's like, you know, obviously I'm not rooting for Deerdre,

575
00:26:58,759 --> 00:27:00,960
but she's not the wrong trying hunt this guy down

576
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:06,000
because she's right about how crucial he's been to hurting them.

577
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:09,240
But doesn't matter. She fucked up and not even taking

578
00:27:09,279 --> 00:27:11,839
a rank away, not even like a punishment, whatever it is,

579
00:27:12,039 --> 00:27:13,880
you're just a criminal, and she's probably in the rest

580
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,079
of her life now, you know whatever. Maybe I'm sure

581
00:27:16,079 --> 00:27:18,519
she got some sentence, but she's probably in there, fucking

582
00:27:18,599 --> 00:27:20,759
she gets to see it all in the again, I

583
00:27:20,759 --> 00:27:22,720
would kill We'll tull able the end what happens, but

584
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:24,920
I'd kill for like a twenty years from now, like

585
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:29,279
a Rogue one show after episode six, just to see that.

586
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,200
Imagine what DJ would think when you're like watching the

587
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,359
news or you hear the stuff of the empire, like

588
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,720
the Emperor going down, everything going down.

589
00:27:36,559 --> 00:27:38,880
Speaker 4: To all the prisoners would be freed, right because they're all,

590
00:27:39,759 --> 00:27:42,960
you know, enemies of the Empire solding like you guys

591
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:43,680
are on our side.

592
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:45,599
Speaker 1: And that would be so interesting because that's one thing

593
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:47,440
that I think uh Me and Tari have read a

594
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,400
couple of the that have health right, and we've always said,

595
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,039
I know, I'm going quick tangent. That's one thing Clone

596
00:27:52,039 --> 00:27:54,480
Wars does do the TV show where adds some context

597
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,039
to the prequels. That does help some things, right, We've

598
00:27:57,079 --> 00:27:59,839
said that before. That's where they need to do it

599
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,880
for episode six to seven. There's tons of stuff in

600
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,839
there now. At the same time, when we got to

601
00:28:05,839 --> 00:28:07,960
episode seven, I was like, how's the Empire just back?

602
00:28:08,079 --> 00:28:10,319
Now we've gone through certain things politically in real life,

603
00:28:10,319 --> 00:28:12,960
I'm like, Oh, they could just come back because bad

604
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,200
people come back all the time here in politics. It

605
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,599
doesn't matter. People fall for the same thing again. But

606
00:28:17,799 --> 00:28:25,559
what was the fucking book we read with Luke and Lando? No,

607
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:27,039
put the dill though, way I want the book the

608
00:28:27,079 --> 00:28:29,839
Luke and Lando? What is I just shallows sit. Yeah,

609
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,599
so there's that one at all. Yeah, you could have

610
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,480
just said to flex. Uh, there's a third one I'm forgetting,

611
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,119
but the shadows sit. There's an I used of the

612
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:40,400
post or the the ley Leihan one. And there's another

613
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:42,559
one where it shows that again and even some stuff

614
00:28:42,559 --> 00:28:44,319
and mandal I'll give them credit there some stuff and

615
00:28:44,359 --> 00:28:46,079
Mandalora and I know, Kirk when you hate that episode,

616
00:28:46,119 --> 00:28:48,759
but of like uh with Kato O'Brien, the cloning and

617
00:28:48,759 --> 00:28:51,160
stuff like that. It shows Remember, it's like a whole

618
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,960
episode about them trying to get that cloning doctor, and

619
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:55,960
it shows that they were. Some people are working for

620
00:28:56,039 --> 00:28:59,160
the New Rebellion, but it's like their actress empire. That's

621
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,680
where I wouldn't mind taking a show to see what

622
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:03,480
would it be like for someone like Djer. Let's say

623
00:29:03,519 --> 00:29:07,599
she's locked up. How long is New Hope to return?

624
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:09,440
The Jedi. Let's just say we're around there right now,

625
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,279
that's like seven years, I think, right New Hope to

626
00:29:12,279 --> 00:29:15,039
return the Jedi Taylor or is it longer? And then no,

627
00:29:15,119 --> 00:29:18,039
Haan's locked away for a year in carbonite, So that's

628
00:29:18,039 --> 00:29:19,880
at least a year, Like I know, it's yeah, and I.

629
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:21,599
Speaker 3: Want to say it was like two to three years

630
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:23,160
between four and five.

631
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 1: Okay, so let's just round up and say even if

632
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:27,720
it's five years, half a decade, right, what does a

633
00:29:27,799 --> 00:29:31,160
character like Ddre do when they are released, Because they're like, oh, yeah,

634
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,319
you're you're not with the Empire, you're one of us.

635
00:29:33,319 --> 00:29:35,039
You should have been locked away. And she goes back

636
00:29:35,039 --> 00:29:39,119
into society like are you tempted again to you know, oh, well,

637
00:29:39,119 --> 00:29:40,960
we're gonna be the new empire or this time whether

638
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,680
it's Thrown or Snoke or whoever it is, or like

639
00:29:43,839 --> 00:29:45,200
is it like you want to do good? Or are

640
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,480
they just completely lost? Like and they said there's stuff

641
00:29:47,519 --> 00:29:48,000
with bicks.

642
00:29:47,799 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 3: And I was gonna look up Cereal's mom. That's the

643
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:50,559
first thing she's gonna do.

644
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 1: And I'm surprised we didn't touch back on that. I

645
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:55,160
thought for sure this week we would. But my quick

646
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,279
point was she just like, yeah, I would be so

647
00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:01,440
down for a political what happened directly after six because

648
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,720
as we've seen, it's not just how it was. When

649
00:30:03,759 --> 00:30:05,880
we watched Return the Jedi, it felt like, oh, they

650
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,319
won and it all just flipped over, right, the good

651
00:30:08,319 --> 00:30:10,440
guys won and that's it. Here we go. But they've done,

652
00:30:10,519 --> 00:30:13,640
and I think there's some stuff that's like shadily not

653
00:30:13,759 --> 00:30:16,400
as well ridden done. Obviously the sequel trilogy is one

654
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,200
of them as far as how we got back to

655
00:30:18,279 --> 00:30:20,400
like what are they called the First Order, but there's

656
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:22,400
actually a story there, so we're not gonna get it,

657
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,799
but it just deed you're being in there just interests

658
00:30:24,799 --> 00:30:27,200
me so much, like what journey would she be going getting?

659
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,319
Like all this fucking news? Right, you know, how did

660
00:30:29,319 --> 00:30:31,559
you react to a Jedi like that fucking thing? Like, oh, yeah,

661
00:30:31,559 --> 00:30:33,680
this guy Luke Skywalker, he came in and he took

662
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,079
out the Empire. Because even Luke and last Jedi say

663
00:30:36,119 --> 00:30:38,880
like they all kind of like attribute the wind to him, right,

664
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:40,839
So how does it feel like, Oh, this guy does magic.

665
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:43,240
He came in and he took out Palpatine, and he

666
00:30:43,279 --> 00:30:47,119
took out Vader, he took out targeting. Yeah, like it's

667
00:30:47,119 --> 00:30:49,400
just how and how did the other people feel? You know,

668
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:53,000
on MAFMA, she's still alive higher you know.

669
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:56,839
Speaker 4: Well, she's well, I can't say that because it's inn

670
00:30:56,839 --> 00:31:00,440
Ahsoka spoiler, but she's you know, she's just so well, yeah,

671
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,200
she's in it, but she's got friends in high places obviously.

672
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 1: But I just means she's alive. You can, you can

673
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:09,920
tackle that era. But a technically the I found this

674
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:11,640
out this week the actress that played the original bomb

675
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,079
off is so live at a two show much respect

676
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,759
brought them all back. But Taylor, how did you feel

677
00:31:17,799 --> 00:31:19,200
about Didre's ending here?

678
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 3: Yeah?

679
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 4: I think it's it's it's morbidly fitting. It's uh there,

680
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,799
I'm assuming that were they still building Death Star components there?

681
00:31:28,839 --> 00:31:31,119
Speaker 3: I mean, that's that's probity because yeah, she's.

682
00:31:32,279 --> 00:31:33,799
Speaker 2: That's the second one.

683
00:31:34,039 --> 00:31:37,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the late full circle when that second one destroys, like, well,

684
00:31:37,839 --> 00:31:38,839
back to work.

685
00:31:38,839 --> 00:31:42,759
Speaker 3: You know, and she would know that's building there too.

686
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, And like because it's the Empire base, do they

687
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,119
get freed or do you think the first word swaps

688
00:31:48,119 --> 00:31:50,119
these people up? Because who the fuck builds Star Killer?

689
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:55,000
You know, just like over the War's over ship lands

690
00:31:55,039 --> 00:31:56,640
you're all happy, and then it's just a bunch of fun.

691
00:31:56,759 --> 00:32:00,480
We're gonna we're gonna make the fucking storm troopers just

692
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,559
pointing out like follow us, and like, now, teachers, is

693
00:32:02,599 --> 00:32:05,039
there still just like fucking working on Star Killer Base.

694
00:32:05,079 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 4: Well, they get like you said it, like in Mandalorian,

695
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,480
they get kind of like repurposed, like put into this

696
00:32:10,559 --> 00:32:13,279
program for the New Republic. But that's one of the

697
00:32:13,279 --> 00:32:15,640
things I loved in in Ahsoka is because they're like,

698
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:17,880
oh my god, like it's right underneath our nose. Like

699
00:32:18,079 --> 00:32:21,640
they're supposed to be processing old imperial ships, breaking it down,

700
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:25,960
but these crews are like secretly taking imperial components, setting

701
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,640
it off to like imperial factories that are classified and

702
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:32,319
building imperial like equipment of like new stuff. Like it's

703
00:32:32,359 --> 00:32:34,240
crazy shit that they're doing under the nose.

704
00:32:34,039 --> 00:32:36,279
Speaker 1: Which again I I wish there was an eas or

705
00:32:36,279 --> 00:32:37,960
a better way we go out there, because it's just like,

706
00:32:38,599 --> 00:32:40,640
you know, that's how Palpatine did. It was all right

707
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:42,799
under their nose. But again that happens in real life

708
00:32:42,799 --> 00:32:44,839
of people getting back to the power.

709
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 2: Right now, they're building star destroyers with our tariffs.

710
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 1: That's what these terrorsts are for. So we're gonna fucking

711
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,400
Canada destroyer a fifty one state or we're gonna destroy it.

712
00:32:54,519 --> 00:32:56,279
Just mean what they're going to take our maple.

713
00:32:56,119 --> 00:33:03,359
Speaker 4: Leafs Uh, I'll do it. As for as for Dadra, yeah.

714
00:33:03,599 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 1: Star Review, don't make Star Wars, don't do it.

715
00:33:08,519 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 4: She she went through so much to just achieve her goals,

716
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:13,759
and yeah, she became.

717
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:14,799
Speaker 3: Very much.

718
00:33:16,599 --> 00:33:20,079
Speaker 4: What's there's there's a term like a quote or a

719
00:33:20,119 --> 00:33:24,400
phrase for when you're getting too curious. Yea curiosity killed

720
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:28,240
the cat right her dedication to the job. She thought

721
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,240
she was doing the right thing. But even in this arc,

722
00:33:30,279 --> 00:33:31,960
they loosely just throw it around.

723
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:35,559
Speaker 2: Cl right, like they have very similar kind of paths,

724
00:33:35,599 --> 00:33:37,400
where like they dedicate their whole life to like this

725
00:33:37,519 --> 00:33:40,240
one cause. And then it gets a little bit I

726
00:33:40,279 --> 00:33:44,680
mean it differently because the choice at the same time,

727
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:48,319
he's so dedicated to the cause, like as much as

728
00:33:48,319 --> 00:33:51,680
she is. Like I think that's where they found that similarity.

729
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,519
Speaker 1: But then she just doesn't have the urge to break away, like.

730
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:57,559
Speaker 2: Well, I think it would have happened to Cereal eventually

731
00:33:57,599 --> 00:33:59,400
if he stayed on the path too, Like it would

732
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,599
have been the same result because you had been right

733
00:34:01,599 --> 00:34:05,519
there with Dandro to the end. I imagine when just

734
00:34:05,559 --> 00:34:09,400
like if you will with everything right, we'll go back

735
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:10,119
as heroes.

736
00:34:10,119 --> 00:34:11,360
Speaker 1: Clearly, yeah, the.

737
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,760
Speaker 2: Heroes go to Narmina five or whatever the fuck it's called.

738
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 1: But even though like you know, I don't want to

739
00:34:15,519 --> 00:34:17,760
defend Zero because he got what he deserved, at that

740
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,039
same time, it's almost like fitting as far as okay,

741
00:34:20,559 --> 00:34:22,280
you turned what was too late, but you kind of

742
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,079
get like, yeah, you get like a merciful not merciful,

743
00:34:25,079 --> 00:34:27,000
but you get killed right and your torture is kind

744
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,239
of over or do you drove that moment? She saw

745
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:32,000
everything when down Gorman, you know, Cero she adt some

746
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,360
point probably saw that body, but still is like, yeah,

747
00:34:34,559 --> 00:34:37,360
I'm still I'm still here doing my job right, And

748
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:40,280
that's to me, it's almost like the the two Forks

749
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,320
as far as trying to be a better person. And

750
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,360
that's where not that Cero's trying to you, but at

751
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:46,440
least he like he couldn't continue to go through with

752
00:34:46,519 --> 00:34:48,360
these terrible acts, where she's like, yeah, I still can.

753
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,920
And that's where now you get locked up for you

754
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,360
know till star Killer basis, we've had candidate. Now that

755
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:55,639
she's in episode seven, just working on that ship somewhere.

756
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 2: She's like, I don't know how she'd be seventy plus

757
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:03,960
just the world record on the years old. I feel

758
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:05,840
like she'd be a good worker because you know, when

759
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:09,719
they're doing their recent because it's all whoever finishes. I

760
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:16,079
don't remember what I will say with the day dres

761
00:35:16,079 --> 00:35:20,079
stuff specific, like just to change in a different direction

762
00:35:20,159 --> 00:35:23,800
when she meets Luthen and I was I was just

763
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,760
so unsure on what was going to happen there. I

764
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,639
think she really sold it on just being a curious

765
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:31,960
like I thought maybe she was just like, oh, I'm

766
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,400
finally gonna go check out this lead. I didn't think

767
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,679
they had the whole place surrounded by that point, but

768
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:40,320
I was just so fascinated by like the emotion that

769
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,639
she was showing in that sequence, And at first I

770
00:35:42,679 --> 00:35:45,079
was like, Okay, this is just how dadro would interact

771
00:35:45,119 --> 00:35:48,599
with a regular imperial shop like downtown Corrussant. However, the

772
00:35:48,639 --> 00:35:51,199
fun like you know, she she I'm sure she has

773
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:54,199
a day off, maybe on her Sunday, go shopping, get

774
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:56,760
some groceries, like just interacting with a shop keep like

775
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,119
that's kind of how it was, and she was just smiling,

776
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,159
like when when he's like asking if they're if they're

777
00:36:02,199 --> 00:36:04,239
real and saying that she has something, it's like I

778
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,559
hope it's pretty and she's like, oh, I'm nervous now,

779
00:36:06,639 --> 00:36:08,760
Like I like obviously now that I know she's just

780
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:12,079
kind of playing him and just building up to the

781
00:36:12,199 --> 00:36:15,719
big moment. But uh, just for this being her whole goal,

782
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,679
like the whole show is finding this character, for it

783
00:36:18,679 --> 00:36:22,199
to be the review when she pulls out the the device,

784
00:36:22,679 --> 00:36:24,280
the box, whatever the hell it's called.

785
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm dumb, my path. I didn't know like how

786
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:29,719
it was like the like I got you. I knew

787
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,679
it's like clearly why LUTH's reaction. It's his reaction is

788
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:34,800
what's so I was like, oh, that's the thing. Like

789
00:36:35,079 --> 00:36:37,400
it wasn't like a picture of Luth and like talking

790
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,800
with them off or something like that was like, all right,

791
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:41,840
this means something. He's shady. I get it.

792
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,159
Speaker 2: So yeah, but just I I thought that was such

793
00:36:44,199 --> 00:36:50,079
an awesome scene. And yeah, no, I in hindsight, I

794
00:36:50,119 --> 00:36:52,239
think she would have done better. I mean there's many

795
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:55,360
ways it could have gone better for her, But like

796
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:59,039
if they just swatted the place, just come in stun

797
00:36:59,079 --> 00:37:00,840
gun in him right away, you know, like like that

798
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:03,119
would have been over for you. They could just interrogate

799
00:37:03,199 --> 00:37:05,679
him right away, but she wanted to have a moment,

800
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,920
so I I did appreciate the build up. Nonetheless, she

801
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:10,559
should have should.

802
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:11,280
Speaker 1: Have hit him with the honey.

803
00:37:20,079 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 2: Even if like Louthen's on his patio, throw the stunners at.

804
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:34,079
Speaker 1: Him, you're just kicks in. I think those three together

805
00:37:34,119 --> 00:37:35,559
are deadly.

806
00:37:35,559 --> 00:37:37,760
Speaker 2: We're gonna make our own story with these video clips

807
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:37,960
we have.

808
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:43,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, and what was his assistants name, Clia Claia. Yeah,

809
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,360
she was just on the patio a couple of miles away.

810
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,840
Just memorys bring memory is bringing back.

811
00:37:49,199 --> 00:37:58,800
Speaker 3: I won't forget you, buddy.

812
00:38:00,159 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 2: More motion than that.

813
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:03,599
Speaker 1: But you know, d like she got caught. She got that.

814
00:38:03,679 --> 00:38:06,159
They said they brought her down like she got ergantright,

815
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:08,599
she got cocky because before she were that building, she

816
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,639
know how long I've been waiting for this? Who am

817
00:38:11,639 --> 00:38:17,920
I about to make our name for myself here? Unfortunately

818
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:23,760
she did make her name for her something the worse way.

819
00:38:22,159 --> 00:38:24,199
Speaker 2: Before she went in the doors ship.

820
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:25,159
Speaker 1: I'm gonna call.

821
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:31,559
Speaker 2: When she found out he died.

822
00:38:31,679 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 3: You know, scary how these work.

823
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:51,079
Speaker 1: Credit? What is it?

824
00:38:51,119 --> 00:38:51,639
Speaker 2: Is it.

825
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:54,199
Speaker 1: All right? Let's go on.

826
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 2: Ue never gets used that.

827
00:38:56,679 --> 00:38:58,039
Speaker 1: I use it. That's how I use it. Let's get

828
00:38:58,079 --> 00:39:00,119
back on track. Actually can't credit.

829
00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:04,199
Speaker 2: Her wash isn't that right? Brother?

830
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:10,280
Speaker 1: But yeah, we did, we use that. That was a

831
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:13,199
great run though we almost made every one work. So

832
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:16,519
but yeah, they even said, like why did you go

833
00:39:16,599 --> 00:39:18,559
in there alone? And like when they said, I'm like, well,

834
00:39:18,519 --> 00:39:19,719
I don't know if she was alone. She had like

835
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:22,199
fucking twenty guards up there, but I got the sense

836
00:39:22,199 --> 00:39:24,840
of like it was her, like she didn't inform the

837
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:28,480
greater powers that beat right that hey I got access,

838
00:39:28,519 --> 00:39:30,599
this is my mission, Like like she didn't bring up

839
00:39:30,599 --> 00:39:33,599
everybody because she knew if she and she's completely right.

840
00:39:33,599 --> 00:39:36,119
We've talked about this manytime Star Wars, specially this show,

841
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,159
even when it started. And then back to episode of

842
00:39:39,159 --> 00:39:40,880
this season, like episode one or two when they're talking

843
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:43,800
about Gorman, if she were bringing those other people, they'd

844
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:45,639
do this mission and then it would be oh, well,

845
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,639
credit caught the source, cretic you know whatever it was,

846
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,679
or party ass like all these people would be like, well,

847
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:54,159
I'm the one who caught Luthen and I stopped it,

848
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:56,239
So that's why she wanted that right, Like it is

849
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:58,440
a joke, but it literally is the gamut making name

850
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:01,320
for myself because if she in and she's right and

851
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,880
she like cuts off that source from you know, not

852
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:05,719
a little bit, do you appen? But like all this

853
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,599
information that's been going out that like the past, I

854
00:40:08,639 --> 00:40:10,440
can't remember how much end or spam, but at least

855
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:12,960
even in this season four years, that's a huge win

856
00:40:13,039 --> 00:40:14,960
and you'll get that like, oh, the Emperor might want

857
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:16,639
to talk to this and that. But then if you

858
00:40:16,639 --> 00:40:18,800
go it on your own and you fuck up, well

859
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:20,960
look with amdidre she got locked up and everything, so

860
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,840
she did she did screw up. But I agree the

861
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,519
on boat fronts of like one, she was definitely like

862
00:40:26,559 --> 00:40:28,440
you know, playing with her food and need it and

863
00:40:28,639 --> 00:40:30,760
also louth and I'm like, you don't have like a

864
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:33,440
piece of dynamite stab to your vest or something like

865
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:36,920
like like I think knife is like one of the

866
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:39,599
worst suicidal in Star Wars ways where they can like

867
00:40:40,199 --> 00:40:42,880
traditional but it's like in Star Wars in the land

868
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,280
where they can save you from a lightsaber stamp. He's

869
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:48,400
like like at least do the throat like at least

870
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:50,960
like but like I thought it was going to be

871
00:40:51,199 --> 00:40:53,519
that he actually was gonna deditate the whole place, because

872
00:40:53,559 --> 00:40:55,920
especially she was already destroying stuff. So I don't know

873
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:58,199
why he didn't just denonate it. And even then, I

874
00:40:58,199 --> 00:41:00,239
thought it would have made tons of sense. They did

875
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:02,039
the callback earlier, and I guess we have've talked about.

876
00:41:02,079 --> 00:41:04,280
They did the flashbacks of how him and Clia right

877
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:07,559
Clia met. They had him blow up like a couple

878
00:41:07,599 --> 00:41:11,159
of transports with a bomb later on yon naboo, yeah,

879
00:41:11,199 --> 00:41:13,079
and later on she did that to get to him

880
00:41:13,119 --> 00:41:15,679
so she could make sure Luthen died without being tortured

881
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,679
and being ransacked for information. But I thought that almost

882
00:41:18,679 --> 00:41:22,480
would have been like a cool callback, but like flash

883
00:41:22,559 --> 00:41:25,199
forward to the future or like a good oh god,

884
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:28,480
what them? Uh what is it when you're setting out

885
00:41:28,519 --> 00:41:30,039
for the future, it's gonna come later on?

886
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:30,639
Speaker 3: Shadow?

887
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, good foreshadow. If he would have blown up, obviously

888
00:41:34,039 --> 00:41:35,719
you wouldn't want to kill DDRA, but I would just

889
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:37,320
make it as far like, yeah, she gets blown the

890
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:40,400
side or she survives, right, and at the same time,

891
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:42,800
you gave Clea that emotional stuff. Just from a practical

892
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:44,480
point of view, I thought, this is how you're gonna

893
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:46,280
do it like a knife, and you're gonna hope that

894
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:49,400
your your dad. Like if it wasn't for Clea, he

895
00:41:49,519 --> 00:41:51,079
was fucked because they were bringing him back to life,

896
00:41:51,079 --> 00:41:53,199
and then he would have just been what tortured for.

897
00:41:53,559 --> 00:41:55,199
I don't think you would have gave any information. But

898
00:41:55,199 --> 00:41:57,639
there's some of those devices you can't help, right, or

899
00:41:57,679 --> 00:41:59,920
even the force, like I don't know, you had Vader down,

900
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:02,639
Like there's some things you just doesn't matter how strong

901
00:42:02,679 --> 00:42:04,920
you are, the Empire's gonna get at you. So I

902
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:06,320
did get a laugh when he just, you know, I

903
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:07,880
get it because he's telling the story about the knife

904
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:11,280
that it's like, oh, can you pull that acid on

905
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:12,880
you that you're pouring on your stuff? You know?

906
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it just goes to show how unprepared

907
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:20,280
he was for that whole event happening, because like I'm

908
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:23,480
curious what the actual time frame it is from when

909
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:27,239
he meets Lonnie to like that meeting with Dadra Like

910
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:29,960
like it seemed like he doesn't do anything else right,

911
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:31,760
Like he talks to Claya and then he just goes

912
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,440
to burn down the place and then he's just kind

913
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:36,840
of rolling with the punches at that sequence like do

914
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:38,719
I not answer the door? And then if you don't

915
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:41,599
answer the door, like then you're just committed to I

916
00:42:41,639 --> 00:42:43,719
gotta just run like for my life, like kind of

917
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:45,800
the cats out of the bag. But he goes to

918
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,599
the door, puts on that great fake smile that he's

919
00:42:48,639 --> 00:42:53,320
always had, And it was interesting because it's a different

920
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:57,599
type of like that louth and performance like like not

921
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:01,920
just saying like the Rebellion lou into like the the

922
00:43:02,039 --> 00:43:03,960
art dealer guy. It was just a different version of

923
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:05,880
like the art dealer guy, where it just seemed like

924
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:08,760
he didn't have the same fuel to put on that performance.

925
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:10,840
It just seemed like cats out of the bag. No

926
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,000
matter what this is kind of yeah, it doesn't even

927
00:43:13,039 --> 00:43:15,519
matter if yeah, yeah, exactly.

928
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,360
Speaker 1: And you gotta imagine too at the it's been a

929
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:21,280
year and and or last conversation I had it was

930
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:23,320
Luthen was like, Oh, they're gonna catch me soon. So

931
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:26,639
I imagine he's been mentally prepared for this for quite

932
00:43:26,679 --> 00:43:28,639
a while now, like he probably there's I bet there's

933
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:31,400
multiple times he's opened up that door and talked to

934
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,199
someone from the Empire, but they were just there to

935
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:35,639
like look at art or do something else, but probably thought, oh,

936
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:37,719
this is probably the way it's gonna go. This one's

937
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:40,119
a bit different because he was high on the totem Poles.

938
00:43:40,159 --> 00:43:42,079
I'm sure he figured that out, but it's like I

939
00:43:42,119 --> 00:43:44,239
think probably multiple times for that year, he just woke

940
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:46,079
up like, Oh, it's probably gonna be the day. You're like,

941
00:43:46,119 --> 00:43:47,559
this is when it's gonna happen to me. And when

942
00:43:47,559 --> 00:43:49,519
you're talking about Lonnie, I don't think that many hours

943
00:43:49,519 --> 00:43:51,519
because remember when we can't remember the other guy, but

944
00:43:51,559 --> 00:43:53,880
when he goes to party ass and he's like, oh,

945
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:56,000
I was late because they found so and so dead,

946
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:58,960
I think it's like within a few hours of each other.

947
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:02,599
Which that was a brutal scene. Kid Francisco's brought that up.

948
00:44:02,679 --> 00:44:06,199
Luth and Telemanni Yavin and then Dispatch math forward was epic.

949
00:44:06,199 --> 00:44:08,280
I don't know if I want to use the word epic,

950
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:13,559
like it it's tough, right because this guy, I don't

951
00:44:13,559 --> 00:44:17,719
think I'm wrong, but he decided to start helping Loop

952
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:21,679
and Luthen because he had a child and a wife, right,

953
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:24,760
And he's still like and I never got the sense

954
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:30,119
he was like like, I don't know, it's tough to

955
00:44:30,159 --> 00:44:31,840
say he's not as bad as the rest of him.

956
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:33,519
I just didn't I didn't take it as a win.

957
00:44:33,639 --> 00:44:35,760
I took it as man. This guy has put in

958
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:38,559
the time and literally he gives them the whole stuff

959
00:44:38,559 --> 00:44:40,840
for the Death Star and it's not like he's like

960
00:44:42,039 --> 00:44:43,920
he wants I guess that's why I didn't feel good

961
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:45,559
about the scene in the perfect way for the show,

962
00:44:45,559 --> 00:44:47,440
because it shows again we talk about like Luthen and

963
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:51,119
Saw Luthen is a fucking kind of terrible, cutthroat person

964
00:44:51,159 --> 00:44:53,320
that will do it, but it's for the greater good, right,

965
00:44:53,559 --> 00:44:54,920
And that's where it's like this guy just wants to

966
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:57,199
get away with his wife and his child. He's been

967
00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:00,000
doing this for at least four years five. He's always

968
00:45:00,039 --> 00:45:03,599
he's been under like extreme pressure, so I'd never got

969
00:45:03,599 --> 00:45:05,840
the sense he was like a dedrous seal even where

970
00:45:06,159 --> 00:45:09,039
he's doing this, but like he's probably given them tons

971
00:45:09,079 --> 00:45:11,039
of information over the years. Were he easy could have

972
00:45:11,039 --> 00:45:12,840
pulled the cereal. He could have been, hey, I know

973
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:16,320
this guy, he's on me, and you know, do what

974
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:18,679
you would like. He could have had luth and Silver

975
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:22,079
sort of on silver platter years ago, but he didn't,

976
00:45:22,079 --> 00:45:23,800
so I to me, I thought it wasn't like a

977
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:27,280
good thing. I thought just showed how how even more

978
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:29,840
so Lutheran's cutthroat. But yeah, what a great way to

979
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:31,639
do that where he tells him. There's just a scene

980
00:45:31,679 --> 00:45:33,639
they cut away Luthen's walk away and just a wide

981
00:45:33,639 --> 00:45:35,199
shot film on the bench and it's like, oh no,

982
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:37,079
and then they zoom in like bolt holes like man

983
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:40,280
blaster ll just brutal way to go because yeah, same thing.

984
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:43,639
Now this guy's like widow out there, kids lost to

985
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:46,000
father and they have no you're gonna have no idea

986
00:45:46,079 --> 00:45:49,159
why maybe they'll put two and two together. But brutal scene.

987
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 2: Yeah that I mean, it was such a brutal scene.

988
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:56,000
I I think it's so powerful of just like showing

989
00:45:56,039 --> 00:45:58,159
that side of Luthen that we've seen time and time again.

990
00:46:00,039 --> 00:46:01,800
And it did that wide shot and like you just

991
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:04,159
see him lean over. I like gasped. I was like,

992
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:06,679
no way that actually just have it, Like that's so savage.

993
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:09,559
Especially this guy, like you said, Travis has been such

994
00:46:09,559 --> 00:46:12,480
a key part of just getting this rebellion going and

995
00:46:12,599 --> 00:46:16,000
giving absolute vital information like this is what sets us

996
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,320
off to get the plans to the death Star because

997
00:46:18,519 --> 00:46:20,360
without this they wouldn't even know that that's the thing

998
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:22,159
until it's way too late, like it's already just start

999
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:26,880
capping planets and I don't know, Like the more I

1000
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:31,119
stowed on the scene, it's it's all like, obviously, best

1001
00:46:31,119 --> 00:46:32,840
case scenario would have been this guy gets away with

1002
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:36,119
his family on a ship that they just have and

1003
00:46:36,159 --> 00:46:38,000
it's like a get out plan to get to Yavin,

1004
00:46:38,079 --> 00:46:40,840
Like that's best case scenario. But also the fact that

1005
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:43,800
he just shot him like that, like the Empire wouldn't

1006
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:46,320
know that he's really well, I guess they did know

1007
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:47,920
he was a rat, like at least critic did. But

1008
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:51,440
like because critic knows, does that mean everyone knows or

1009
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:53,360
he just kind of kept Like I'm just thinking, like

1010
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:55,760
that's also kind of a way to protect the family maybe,

1011
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:57,880
like if this guy gets away and the family's still alive,

1012
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:00,400
they'll like start torturing, like where is he? Like what

1013
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:02,960
information you know that probably will still actual?

1014
00:47:04,519 --> 00:47:05,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I hope not if.

1015
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:07,599
Speaker 2: It is public information like you're saying, yeah.

1016
00:47:07,519 --> 00:47:09,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna say, maybe wouldn't be public because

1017
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:11,079
they wouldn't want to put out there that like they're

1018
00:47:11,119 --> 00:47:14,239
getting spied on and people are taking advantage of them,

1019
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:16,199
But yeah, I don't actually know what they would do

1020
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:20,800
to his family because to me, like that's a a

1021
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:23,320
falsehood to think, oh yeah, they're just like whatever, love

1022
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:26,599
his family. It's like, nah, they might fucking lock them. Yeah,

1023
00:47:26,639 --> 00:47:28,880
So it's like that that's story. It's like Luthin is

1024
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:32,079
kind of leaving these people out to past or, you know,

1025
00:47:32,119 --> 00:47:32,440
and like.

1026
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:34,559
Speaker 2: This thing is like you trust this guy with Yavin though,

1027
00:47:34,679 --> 00:47:36,719
like that information, like that's such a big thing to

1028
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:38,679
drop in the middle of the city there, Like I

1029
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:39,400
thought that was.

1030
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 1: Even then does Luthen at this point, I don't think

1031
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:45,519
he even has the power to get him out of there, right,

1032
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:47,039
like like like.

1033
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:49,760
Speaker 2: A call for backup, right, Like there's no way they

1034
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:50,639
were getting out of there.

1035
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:52,320
Speaker 1: And Anders says that, he says, not the call. It's

1036
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:54,599
like the final call. So clearly they had some sort

1037
00:47:54,599 --> 00:47:57,599
of code like you only give us this call sign

1038
00:47:57,639 --> 00:48:00,199
when it's like we're fucking bouncing, we're getting out here.

1039
00:48:00,119 --> 00:48:02,239
Speaker 2: Now you vam.

1040
00:48:04,199 --> 00:48:07,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's Dexter punching the wall and there's a passport

1041
00:48:07,199 --> 00:48:09,360
and they're like oh fuck, Like it's all those like

1042
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:11,920
tropes where it's like okay, it is time to go

1043
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:13,679
and same thing what we do round up the sky

1044
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:16,599
as family, taking the same base with Kleia, like's gonna

1045
00:48:16,639 --> 00:48:18,519
deal with all this stuff now. Again not saying that's

1046
00:48:18,559 --> 00:48:20,320
not bad for the family because they don't know what

1047
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:22,880
they're in there, just like in their mind their dad

1048
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:26,480
slash husband just works for the Empire Police and they're

1049
00:48:26,519 --> 00:48:28,639
doing a good thing. Right. There's again, there's half the

1050
00:48:28,639 --> 00:48:30,679
people we've talked about in the show that are with

1051
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:33,039
the Empire, like even Cereal, that don't know how bad

1052
00:48:33,079 --> 00:48:35,320
it is or what they're doing. So I'm sure you

1053
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:37,119
could cut to the room and they're like, yeah, fuck

1054
00:48:37,159 --> 00:48:39,840
those people in the rebelly and they're just like terrible kid,

1055
00:48:40,039 --> 00:48:43,000
terrible wife. But like we don't know that, right, But yeah,

1056
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:45,679
that was as brutal, brutal way to go out. So

1057
00:48:46,119 --> 00:48:48,880
rip to uh Lonnie, one of the many people we

1058
00:48:49,159 --> 00:48:52,760
lost in these last three episodes. And then before you

1059
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:56,159
go to yeah, so you'm like always Luthen great speeches

1060
00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:58,920
when you talked to about the rebellion. There's two lines.

1061
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:01,679
Mike is one. The one I like was She's like, oh,

1062
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:04,440
where is it far from here? They've flown way past

1063
00:49:04,519 --> 00:49:06,920
your grip And then he's like, he also says, there's

1064
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:09,639
an entire galaxy out there waiting to disgust you. And

1065
00:49:09,639 --> 00:49:12,800
that's what I do like that. They emphasized many times

1066
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:15,320
that Lutheran and clear are like the last holdouts of

1067
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:17,880
anyone from the rebellion that would be on Courson because

1068
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:21,039
it's just such assessed pool and danger now to go there.

1069
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:24,159
But I do like this, Yeah, it's too like obviously

1070
00:49:24,159 --> 00:49:26,599
she plans a tortuom, but like there's nothing you can

1071
00:49:26,639 --> 00:49:29,840
get here at Coroson, Like I'm the only person. Obviously

1072
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:31,760
he's trying to protect Clea, but he's saying her like

1073
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:35,280
I'm the I'm one guy you can get now, you know.

1074
00:49:35,599 --> 00:49:37,880
And he even says like she's like, oh, I've been,

1075
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:40,199
you know, looking for you all this time, and you're

1076
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:42,920
right here under my nose. And he says, oh, and

1077
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:45,320
the entire time, I've known exactly who you are. So

1078
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:47,960
it's almost some of that Ceial situation right where Cereal

1079
00:49:48,119 --> 00:49:51,079
was like fucking obsessed with and Or and Andrew was

1080
00:49:51,119 --> 00:49:53,480
like who are you last week? Right, This is kind

1081
00:49:53,519 --> 00:49:54,800
of a bit of a flip, but it's like in

1082
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:58,280
a mockery of she's obsessed with this person and not

1083
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:00,440
that Luthern's not obsessed because he knows who she hasn't

1084
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:02,440
known how powerful it is, but just shows like how

1085
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:04,320
many steps ahead because he's just like, well, no, I

1086
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:07,480
had you figured out for like the last half decade,

1087
00:50:07,519 --> 00:50:09,480
you know, and that has to be again. That's gonna

1088
00:50:09,519 --> 00:50:11,679
be fucking with Deirdre the whole time because that led

1089
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:13,920
to her downfall. If she would have left this alone,

1090
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:16,760
she'd probably still just be doing her Maybe Alonnie was

1091
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:19,280
still gone to her computer, but this access scroup is

1092
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:22,880
what got her locked up. So are there any thoughts

1093
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:23,559
on Lonnie?

1094
00:50:23,599 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 2: Are they after her because she's the leader or like

1095
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:27,800
the one trying to find access?

1096
00:50:28,079 --> 00:50:30,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, so if she would have just stopped.

1097
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:31,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, Lonnie wouldn't.

1098
00:50:32,639 --> 00:50:34,360
Speaker 4: Well, Lonnie still would have been in there, I think,

1099
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:37,360
wouldn't he have because he was He's he said that

1100
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:40,039
he didn't even tell Luthan that he went into her

1101
00:50:40,039 --> 00:50:41,960
account like over a year ago and was digging and

1102
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:43,679
finding information and all that kind of stuff.

1103
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 2: Right, But why were they after her in the first place?

1104
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:48,559
It is just because she was like the leader of the.

1105
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:50,760
Speaker 4: They went in now because well because the main thing,

1106
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:52,719
like Kranick didn't care about access, kind of didn't care

1107
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:55,159
about anything that happened there. Like when he went into

1108
00:50:55,199 --> 00:50:56,800
that interview room, it was like, Okay, I want to

1109
00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:59,119
know who knows about the Death Star. That's it because

1110
00:50:59,159 --> 00:51:02,039
they knew that Lonnie found out the information right on

1111
00:51:02,079 --> 00:51:03,079
her account, so.

1112
00:51:03,599 --> 00:51:05,880
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and then she has that info because she

1113
00:51:06,039 --> 00:51:09,039
was in crinics circle, So yeah, I guess that's not

1114
00:51:09,039 --> 00:51:12,119
really really the access. That's just her imperial service, right

1115
00:51:12,159 --> 00:51:13,000
that put her in the room.

1116
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:16,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, which I did really like the back and forth

1117
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:19,159
with part of Gas or whatever. Part of Gas, yeah,

1118
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:20,760
part of your ass. Like that's why I always just

1119
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:23,320
choke his name, because again, he was great this episode

1120
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:24,960
though I always mean on it, but he was great

1121
00:51:25,039 --> 00:51:27,119
that whole Like when they're going in the like the

1122
00:51:27,199 --> 00:51:29,559
room and he's just like you literally seem shaking. But

1123
00:51:29,599 --> 00:51:32,760
when him and Kranick are going back and forth and

1124
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:35,159
Kranick's like, why are people talking about this wise all

1125
00:51:35,159 --> 00:51:36,920
this information, He's like, you were supposed to be done

1126
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:39,960
this like a long time ago. So it's a situation

1127
00:51:40,039 --> 00:51:43,000
of like I can't stop the information coming out anymore,

1128
00:51:43,039 --> 00:51:45,119
Like everyone's gonna know about because it's a fucking it's

1129
00:51:45,119 --> 00:51:48,000
a planet sized spaceship that's a destroyer, like, we can't

1130
00:51:48,079 --> 00:51:49,840
hide this anymore, and CIT's like, well, it's only a

1131
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:51,679
few days away. But then I still like when the

1132
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:55,119
scene ends kind of just kind of you know, partographs

1133
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:57,159
is like, uh, you know, good luck, like save it,

1134
00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:00,440
like tell your spield to the emperor to PLoP scene,

1135
00:52:00,559 --> 00:52:02,320
and Credit just kind of sinnyway. It's like, yeah, you're

1136
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:04,800
gonna be done after this, like if you don't succeed

1137
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:07,360
in finding you know, clear whatever. And that's what I

1138
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:09,599
assume that same thing. He's probably like locked up or

1139
00:52:09,599 --> 00:52:12,360
he's demoted or whatever, because Credit kind of insinuated that,

1140
00:52:12,559 --> 00:52:15,119
like yeah, because he when.

1141
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:18,239
Speaker 2: He was dead man, he's dead himself.

1142
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:19,079
Speaker 3: He shot himself.

1143
00:52:20,119 --> 00:52:21,639
Speaker 2: You didn't hear the blaster fire go off?

1144
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 1: I think I completely missed that. I must.

1145
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:25,760
Speaker 2: He's like, I got to bring you in, sir, and

1146
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:27,679
he's like, just give me a moment together my thoughts,

1147
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:29,239
and he puts the gun down and then it goes

1148
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:32,079
outside the room and then blaster fire goes off.

1149
00:52:34,199 --> 00:52:35,880
Speaker 3: The guy's like, what episode was that?

1150
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:36,159
Speaker 2: Wait?

1151
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:37,440
Speaker 3: That was the last one.

1152
00:52:37,559 --> 00:52:38,440
Speaker 2: That's the last episode?

1153
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:38,800
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1154
00:52:39,199 --> 00:52:41,519
Speaker 2: It's in like the wrap up of everyone's storylines.

1155
00:52:41,559 --> 00:52:44,239
Speaker 1: Like I watched the whole montage like, oh, this montes.

1156
00:52:45,159 --> 00:52:46,719
Speaker 2: I was like, it's funny. I was a little bit

1157
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:48,559
confused on the scene because like when he was listening

1158
00:52:48,559 --> 00:52:50,719
to the speech and then he's like in trouble. I

1159
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:52,719
didn't clue in that, Like it's just because he wasn't

1160
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:54,920
able to like find Clay. I'm like, is he like,

1161
00:52:55,639 --> 00:52:57,440
is he like actually a part of the rebellion here?

1162
00:52:57,480 --> 00:53:00,320
Like is it like like we have another mole? Yeah?

1163
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:01,679
Like that would have been crazy, but.

1164
00:53:02,079 --> 00:53:05,719
Speaker 1: Okay, well there you go. Yeah. Then I said that

1165
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:08,039
it would have a bad ending. Apparently it clearly did

1166
00:53:08,039 --> 00:53:09,480
have a very bad ending. I have to pull it

1167
00:53:09,559 --> 00:53:13,000
up because I, yeah, I don't know how I missed that.

1168
00:53:13,119 --> 00:53:15,079
So I was helping the kids are then doing some

1169
00:53:15,159 --> 00:53:19,280
getting ready, but damn so RP to that piece of shit.

1170
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:23,599
So I guess no RP no, RP rest some pieces

1171
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:28,320
tailor anything on Lonnie Luthen's last moments and anything. I

1172
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:30,000
don't have much to say. I liked all stuff anything

1173
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:32,960
on the Luthen flashbacks, well with Cleo.

1174
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:36,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, I liked the stuff with Luthen and his history.

1175
00:53:36,119 --> 00:53:37,599
I'd like to know a little bit more.

1176
00:53:37,639 --> 00:53:40,079
Speaker 4: Just judging by the characters that were in that ship,

1177
00:53:40,079 --> 00:53:42,159
it looked like they were mud troopers, which is the

1178
00:53:42,199 --> 00:53:44,920
same kind of like division that Hans Solo joined up

1179
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:46,800
in where they have like those bucket helmets with like

1180
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:50,440
the big goggles and and whatnots Like it's it's like

1181
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:54,480
below stormtroopers in terms of like the militia or military

1182
00:53:54,519 --> 00:53:58,440
with the Empire, and so everything that was going on

1183
00:53:58,639 --> 00:54:01,280
with Luthan just sitting there and that ship and just

1184
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:04,639
hearing the background noises outside the radio was just fucking brutal.

1185
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:07,119
Like you, oh, you guys, get against the far like

1186
00:54:07,199 --> 00:54:10,920
not fucking wall, but get against the wall. Yeah, and

1187
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:13,400
then you just hear the blaster fire and like people screaming,

1188
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:15,119
and you know they're just they're pulling people out of

1189
00:54:15,119 --> 00:54:19,199
homes and just executing them on the spot. Just horrific shit,

1190
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:20,000
and Luthan just.

1191
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:20,920
Speaker 3: Having a panic attack.

1192
00:54:21,559 --> 00:54:23,440
Speaker 2: Uh if you have a panic attack or you just

1193
00:54:23,519 --> 00:54:25,719
slugging back the liquor, like, is that what calms you down?

1194
00:54:26,599 --> 00:54:30,599
Speaker 3: Yeah? Depends, Oh yeah, uh, but it was.

1195
00:54:30,679 --> 00:54:32,639
Speaker 4: It was brutal, and I love that as an origin

1196
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:35,280
story though, between him meeting Claya and them just having

1197
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:36,199
this really.

1198
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:39,239
Speaker 3: I'd say unhealthy.

1199
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:42,039
Speaker 4: Relationship, but a relationship where they definitely needed each other

1200
00:54:42,079 --> 00:54:45,320
and one helped the other and a lot of a

1201
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:47,360
lot of different ways mentally for them just to kind

1202
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:49,679
of keep going even though they acted like toughest nails

1203
00:54:49,679 --> 00:54:52,559
towards each other. And just I like how it ties

1204
00:54:52,679 --> 00:54:55,880
up everything between her and Luthen at the end when

1205
00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:58,480
you're in retrospect now know when he's like move and

1206
00:54:58,519 --> 00:55:00,320
then they kind of smile at each other, and just

1207
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:02,559
how it's a callback to them when they first met.

1208
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:05,440
So I liked everything about that, and I could definitely

1209
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:06,920
have done with a little bit more of that origin

1210
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:10,159
story him getting to that point of death. I mean,

1211
00:55:10,199 --> 00:55:13,599
it's yeah, I would have definitely. I don't know, like,

1212
00:55:13,639 --> 00:55:15,760
if you're trying to off yourself, slitting your own throat,

1213
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:18,039
probably I don't. I feel like you'd feel every single

1214
00:55:18,039 --> 00:55:18,559
bit of pain.

1215
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:20,719
Speaker 3: He probably doesn't.

1216
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:23,079
Speaker 4: He doesn't probably want to feel all the pain, would

1217
00:55:23,079 --> 00:55:23,840
I would imagine?

1218
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:25,800
Speaker 1: Okay, but what do you thinks were is feeling that

1219
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:29,280
or like the empire keeping you alive for months? On air?

1220
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:32,039
Speaker 4: I think he was counting on bleeding out in the

1221
00:55:32,039 --> 00:55:32,960
moment he he.

1222
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:35,639
Speaker 1: I know, But but if it doesn't, you're gonna have

1223
00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:37,760
like sawground, They're gonna take your dick, you know, so

1224
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:38,360
you don't want.

1225
00:55:38,199 --> 00:55:40,320
Speaker 2: To That's what he did. It off.

1226
00:55:44,599 --> 00:55:46,679
Speaker 1: If you go in there. I have like, when does

1227
00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:51,360
this fucking suicide happen? I'm watching this montage and I.

1228
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:54,360
Speaker 2: Don't Oh, it wasn't party.

1229
00:55:54,199 --> 00:55:57,119
Speaker 4: I don't remember being in the very like montage montage.

1230
00:55:57,119 --> 00:55:58,599
I remember being a list a little bit before.

1231
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:01,960
Speaker 1: Oh okay, I think it's was the montage montage that's here.

1232
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:05,800
Speaker 2: I remember it being that. But I also just powered

1233
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:07,920
through the three episodes. I just see them all at once.

1234
00:56:08,199 --> 00:56:10,320
Speaker 1: It's a problem. Three fucking episodes.

1235
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:13,559
Speaker 4: Shout outs in the montage too, to my mathma, his

1236
00:56:13,639 --> 00:56:16,760
ex husband, he's just.

1237
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:17,840
Speaker 3: Hooking up a new woman drinking.

1238
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:21,320
Speaker 2: That was, yeah, that was that was? What was his name?

1239
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:26,119
Like the father of the son who married the daughter?

1240
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:27,440
What was it? What was the name?

1241
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:33,079
Speaker 4: Draven is the No, he's the rebellion general.

1242
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:36,719
Speaker 1: Okay, I did see that scene. I think I just

1243
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:38,760
I think I just didn't hear the gunfire, and I

1244
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:41,519
thought he just like it was like because he put

1245
00:56:41,519 --> 00:56:47,360
his gun down, so just slammed them down. So damn. Yeah, jeez, yeah,

1246
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:48,960
we did. We weren't gonna get that, of course, but

1247
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:50,679
I would have. I don't know. I think it would

1248
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:53,039
be more interesting to see my Mafa's daughter than the husband,

1249
00:56:53,039 --> 00:56:54,679
because I didn't give a fuck with the husband. Husband

1250
00:56:54,679 --> 00:56:56,280
was like a piece of drunk ship.

1251
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 2: It seemed weird.

1252
00:56:57,199 --> 00:56:59,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, it seemed weird. It seemed like this and that

1253
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:03,079
cares never been that important. Where the daughter leaves for

1254
00:57:03,159 --> 00:57:05,880
an arc was important very much to mon Mathma, right,

1255
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:08,280
Like you could have done that splitting between the two.

1256
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:11,519
And that's another thing where I wish we got more

1257
00:57:11,559 --> 00:57:16,159
of mon Mathma at Yavin for I think we again

1258
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:20,519
that that's a let down of a truncated season. It

1259
00:57:20,599 --> 00:57:22,280
was fun to see her there. It's fun to get

1260
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:25,440
that round table everybody. Obviously you still had Bell are

1261
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:28,559
gone back again always. Brad did a great job. Just

1262
00:57:28,639 --> 00:57:30,719
very much wish Smith's was here because I think there'd

1263
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:33,559
been tons of fun. But no, I wish we got

1264
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:37,719
more of her there, and that was my worry. It's

1265
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:40,840
tough because that flashback stuff with Luthen. He does deserve

1266
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:44,400
it because I think he's such a very unique, great character.

1267
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:47,079
In stealing scars, Dart has like done a phenomenal job

1268
00:57:47,119 --> 00:57:48,760
with him, but at the same time as we're again,

1269
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:50,639
it's like, oh man, we're not gonna get a lot

1270
00:57:50,679 --> 00:57:52,800
of with Man or a lot of like with Soger

1271
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:54,400
now that I need more in Sogre. But it's like

1272
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:57,159
I thought when we did that whole episode where he

1273
00:57:57,360 --> 00:57:59,719
like had him smelled the gas all that stuff, like, oh,

1274
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:03,320
assumering it's some big like like something big with Sagra

1275
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:05,960
and arc never really happened. He's just still around being

1276
00:58:06,039 --> 00:58:08,360
radical doing his thing. Even here he called in like

1277
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:10,559
I'm gonna keep attacking chips and Mom's like, hey, you

1278
00:58:10,599 --> 00:58:13,000
shouldn't do that because I've you know, that's very dangerous.

1279
00:58:13,079 --> 00:58:15,480
That well, I'll do it, and then okay, fuck, like

1280
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:17,400
why didn't even call Sagrew, you know, like just give

1281
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:19,920
up on him. But obviously he's gonna be eating dirt

1282
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:22,840
in a couple a couple of days now, so he's done.

1283
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:29,000
But yeah, so, especially because Genevieve O'Reilly, Like, it's tough

1284
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:30,760
to say who is the MVP of the show because

1285
00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:32,519
I think it all depends on the arc. But she

1286
00:58:32,679 --> 00:58:36,079
was probably at least my surprising favorite performance We've talked

1287
00:58:36,079 --> 00:58:39,039
about many times. Disappointed and obviously last week she had

1288
00:58:39,079 --> 00:58:40,679
a great episode with the speech, right, So it's tough

1289
00:58:40,679 --> 00:58:42,920
to say that, but I would have liked to see

1290
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:45,679
her more operating in yeab And because it's like, oh,

1291
00:58:45,679 --> 00:58:47,960
we finally got there, and it was a couple of

1292
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:49,760
scenes and that was about it, right, Like I don't

1293
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:51,519
even count the scene with her cousin because it's like, well,

1294
00:58:51,519 --> 00:58:54,360
that's just them talking about, you know, with each other.

1295
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:56,519
It's not it's not Mon in a different situation. It

1296
00:58:56,599 --> 00:58:58,480
still just showing that she still cares about her cousin.

1297
00:58:58,559 --> 00:59:01,159
But uh, yeah, so good content, but it was a

1298
00:59:01,159 --> 00:59:02,519
little disappointing it more so.

1299
00:59:03,639 --> 00:59:06,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think it's another example of just this

1300
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:10,280
this set, I guess not a set, it's a trifecta

1301
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:14,639
of episodes. This batch. It seemed like it was the

1302
00:59:14,679 --> 00:59:16,320
most rush out of all of them. I think it's

1303
00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:19,119
just because it had to wrap up everything, like every

1304
00:59:19,199 --> 00:59:21,440
every loose end that we hadn't touched yet. This is

1305
00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:24,119
where we kind of have to close it out. But

1306
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:27,159
I still feel like there was some some unanswered thing,

1307
00:59:27,239 --> 00:59:30,039
like I wanted to get that daughter appearance at some

1308
00:59:30,119 --> 00:59:33,679
point with Mon, And it's just another thing that adds

1309
00:59:33,719 --> 00:59:35,119
to my h. You know, I wish we had more

1310
00:59:35,159 --> 00:59:37,280
seasons of the show. I just think there's a lot

1311
00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:40,320
of Jews there of the scene what she would have

1312
00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:42,400
been like, like I just feel like she would have

1313
00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:45,119
been such a corrupted individual now in her psyche of

1314
00:59:45,159 --> 00:59:49,679
like like she was already like a different mindset. I

1315
00:59:49,719 --> 00:59:52,480
think of her mother, like talking about Mon's daughter here,

1316
00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:55,280
but to just get that like a more like now

1317
00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:58,039
she's a woman and like just been having her own

1318
00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:00,559
thoughts and like how she sees the world very pro

1319
01:00:00,639 --> 01:00:02,719
empire at least is how it's it was set up

1320
01:00:02,719 --> 01:00:05,559
to be. I'm a little bit especially just you know,

1321
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:09,400
we're never gonna see that character. I've seen all the movies,

1322
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:11,119
you know, I don't think we're gonna be getting that

1323
01:00:11,159 --> 01:00:13,119
movie touching about that character.

1324
01:00:13,519 --> 01:00:15,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the other one that I'm kind of surprised,

1325
01:00:15,639 --> 01:00:18,440
Like I feel like, out of all the characters, Clia

1326
01:00:18,519 --> 01:00:20,360
still just being at Yam for I know, she can

1327
01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:23,440
just be a soldier doing whatever, but it's like either

1328
01:00:23,599 --> 01:00:25,800
the characters died or meant it, and like deer Jar,

1329
01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:27,840
where it's like okay, they're locked up like there, you

1330
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:30,599
know why they wouldn't be around you don't go to

1331
01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:33,679
Yaham for much and rogue one or even a new Hope, right,

1332
01:00:33,719 --> 01:00:35,480
But I didn't think she was gonna make it. I

1333
01:00:35,519 --> 01:00:37,880
thought she was gonna do like a self sacrifice play

1334
01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:39,960
to make sure and Or and the other guy make

1335
01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:41,760
it out. But no, she made it, and she's on

1336
01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:43,719
Yam for doing whatever.

1337
01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:47,920
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, that was one where I really thought

1338
01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:52,039
she was gonna die, just because she wasn't in anything else,

1339
01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:56,760
any any project after this. I was so like, I

1340
01:00:56,760 --> 01:01:00,159
feel like I was more gripped by the intensity the

1341
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:03,440
in like her extraction than the mon one even like

1342
01:01:03,519 --> 01:01:04,960
and like that's not bringing away from any of the

1343
01:01:05,039 --> 01:01:07,159
Mon stuff. It just seemed like this is where this

1344
01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:09,199
character is gonna die because I know that she's not

1345
01:01:09,239 --> 01:01:12,719
in any other projects mon. I know she was, so

1346
01:01:13,079 --> 01:01:14,639
it was a little bit of different feeling there. But

1347
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:17,239
they just did such a great job of like killing

1348
01:01:17,239 --> 01:01:22,079
the coms. Like there's such a Cassian and uh, well

1349
01:01:22,119 --> 01:01:24,239
she is that his name Melchi?

1350
01:01:24,679 --> 01:01:28,360
Speaker 3: She think it's Menshi, but I will confirmed.

1351
01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:32,519
Speaker 2: There's like an Elsie in there, but you'll you'll tell me,

1352
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:34,880
Uh But yeah, no, I I just think there's many

1353
01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:38,039
factors that just added to the uh yeah, just the

1354
01:01:38,039 --> 01:01:41,039
intensity of that sequence and good old K two s

1355
01:01:41,079 --> 01:01:43,960
O coming in just being the terminator. It's funny. It's

1356
01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:47,880
like like he's equally as scary as like the actual

1357
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:51,159
Empire versions, like the non reprogrammed one, but just the

1358
01:01:51,199 --> 01:01:53,840
way that he walks in comparison to like the la

1359
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:56,480
was it last week's episode when we see them popping

1360
01:01:56,559 --> 01:01:57,360
off at Gorman?

1361
01:01:57,800 --> 01:02:00,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, the last rebatch.

1362
01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:03,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, Melchie, thank you Taylor. But like just just the

1363
01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:06,920
way that he's like walking like soap, just calmly and

1364
01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:09,760
like just every dialogue sequence that he had was just

1365
01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:14,760
getting me good and just viciously murdering these these Imperial

1366
01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:17,480
soldiers in there. They're so confused, they're like why is

1367
01:02:17,519 --> 01:02:20,800
there like a security And then the way that yeah,

1368
01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:24,679
like that one officer whatever his name is, Lonnie's buddy,

1369
01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:27,119
the way that he dies when he's just like holding

1370
01:02:27,159 --> 01:02:31,760
him the scene, Yeah, he was just coming and but

1371
01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:32,280
he's just.

1372
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:37,039
Speaker 1: It's like the scene awesome powers too and he like

1373
01:02:37,119 --> 01:02:39,000
takes that the one girl and just using as a

1374
01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:41,880
shield for like the whole like ACCP, yeah that I

1375
01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:45,800
have that woe right Yeah nice pool, Yeah, that was

1376
01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:46,679
that was That was.

1377
01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:49,679
Speaker 4: The way this film was just it was horrific because

1378
01:02:49,679 --> 01:02:52,000
the guy's just dead and just Ragg Dolling is being

1379
01:02:52,079 --> 01:02:55,519
pelt to his shots. It's like fuck, but you're right

1380
01:02:55,599 --> 01:02:58,400
like this the confusion and the officers like not knowing

1381
01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:01,320
if like what's going on? Why this kicks unit is there,

1382
01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:03,320
and just hearing like part of Gadas on the comms

1383
01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:06,360
listening like why is this droid here? But the tension

1384
01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:09,920
leading up to this and like you're me and Madison

1385
01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:12,480
were laughing when K TWS was like I was in

1386
01:03:12,519 --> 01:03:14,480
a parade there once, there were two hundred of us,

1387
01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:18,199
and then like the whole tone shifts because it just

1388
01:03:18,239 --> 01:03:20,400
it goes quiet. And then K two is like the

1389
01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:24,280
Emperor was there, and it just sounds like fucking haunting

1390
01:03:24,679 --> 01:03:26,800
because they it's not a lot, it's not long a

1391
01:03:26,880 --> 01:03:29,360
joke and what he's saying and it just sounds ominous. Yeah,

1392
01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:32,239
fucking Palpatine. It just sounds ominous. And I think as

1393
01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:35,119
much as I wanted the Emperor in this show, some

1394
01:03:35,159 --> 01:03:37,280
of the mentions are comedic, but there are other notions

1395
01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:40,519
of him where it's just it just it feels fucking spooky.

1396
01:03:40,719 --> 01:03:41,639
He's a spooky guy.

1397
01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:44,760
Speaker 2: I was playing myself throughout this whole season, unlike well

1398
01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:47,440
they said, I know, they said Cheve's not coming, but uh,

1399
01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:50,440
you're playing with yourself.

1400
01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:58,960
Speaker 1: Absolutely sorry, Share, I never left three.

1401
01:03:59,320 --> 01:03:59,960
Speaker 3: I was convinced.

1402
01:04:00,159 --> 01:04:01,760
Speaker 2: I'm like, I know, I know they said he's not coming,

1403
01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:03,800
but she's gonna appear here right the end. They're gonna

1404
01:04:03,800 --> 01:04:04,679
they're gonna play us all.

1405
01:04:05,159 --> 01:04:07,039
Speaker 4: That's where party guys is going. They're gonna, we're gonna

1406
01:04:07,039 --> 01:04:08,320
take you to she if you have to speak to

1407
01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:08,679
him for.

1408
01:04:09,239 --> 01:04:11,360
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna off myself, which I don't blame.

1409
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:14,280
Speaker 2: I mean, in the snow.

1410
01:04:17,320 --> 01:04:20,199
Speaker 1: Let's take another ad break and we'll be right back,

1411
01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:26,000
and we're back, all right, mom. We talked about we're

1412
01:04:26,079 --> 01:04:28,719
paragraphs there. I'm saying the big stuff to the end.

1413
01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:33,840
I'm trying to think there's anything other.

1414
01:04:37,679 --> 01:04:40,559
Speaker 3: I want to shut out. Again. We talked Melchie. So

1415
01:04:40,599 --> 01:04:41,480
he's a Rogue one character.

1416
01:04:41,559 --> 01:04:44,079
Speaker 4: There's a few other few other Rogue one characters that

1417
01:04:44,079 --> 01:04:46,039
we saw, but Admiral Radas. I was not expecting to

1418
01:04:46,079 --> 01:04:48,199
see him. That was super cool. He's not like a

1419
01:04:48,280 --> 01:04:52,079
huge main character in Rogue one. He's still he's Admiral Radas.

1420
01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:55,800
He's the Monclamarium so him popping in, he's like he

1421
01:04:55,920 --> 01:04:59,800
leads the invasion on Scariff and in Rogue one, and

1422
01:05:00,079 --> 01:05:02,760
so it was really cool to see him pop off here.

1423
01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:06,519
And I again that just the connections with his character

1424
01:05:06,559 --> 01:05:09,960
and everything into scaff I like how Scariff is, just

1425
01:05:10,079 --> 01:05:12,960
especially with what everything we've kind of gone through with

1426
01:05:13,039 --> 01:05:15,760
and Or and seeing how the rebellion does small little

1427
01:05:15,840 --> 01:05:19,199
hit and run stuff like that, and the Empire doesn't

1428
01:05:19,199 --> 01:05:22,360
really even know how big the rebellion is at this point.

1429
01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:24,440
And then when you get to Rogue one and you're

1430
01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:28,000
dealing with the rebellion attack on Scariff, this is the

1431
01:05:28,039 --> 01:05:32,719
first major conflict, Like this is the Empire.

1432
01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:34,840
Speaker 2: Like holy fuck, Like this is open war.

1433
01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:37,360
Speaker 4: It's yeah, the open war and it's a massive rebellion

1434
01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:39,880
fleet and so they're like holy shit, scrambling and trying

1435
01:05:39,880 --> 01:05:43,039
to like get things going and defend Scariff. And so

1436
01:05:43,119 --> 01:05:44,840
that I think it just adds so much more weight

1437
01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:47,000
to that battle knowing that it's the first one, especially

1438
01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:49,239
because we've seen Okay, the rebellion is trying to just

1439
01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:52,239
recruit everyone and bring people in to Yavin Four, and

1440
01:05:52,280 --> 01:05:54,320
now they're trying to get organized and set themselves up,

1441
01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:57,360
get funding, and become an actual army now at this point,

1442
01:05:57,400 --> 01:05:59,360
and that it just it leads to that. So seeing

1443
01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:01,239
Admiral Rada is really cool, and seeing a few of

1444
01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:03,400
the other characters as well was really cool.

1445
01:06:04,760 --> 01:06:11,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, agreed. Shout out to the young actress

1446
01:06:11,440 --> 01:06:14,679
that played Little Clia. I thought she did a spectacular

1447
01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:17,960
and yeah, I wish we had a whole episode just

1448
01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:21,599
on the flashback alone, and shouts up to uh Luthen's hair.

1449
01:06:21,800 --> 01:06:24,320
It was you know, I've seen some different hairstyles in there,

1450
01:06:24,320 --> 01:06:26,920
but in the flashback you just got the spiked front look,

1451
01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:28,719
and it's like, this is Armie luthen.

1452
01:06:29,639 --> 01:06:34,639
Speaker 1: Shit haircut, you know, like this is like a yeah,

1453
01:06:34,400 --> 01:06:39,519
it's just that just you just shave go cut. Yeah,

1454
01:06:39,559 --> 01:06:42,119
and shout because there's not much stay to him this.

1455
01:06:42,159 --> 01:06:43,639
I feel like he's just like kind of a condo

1456
01:06:43,679 --> 01:06:45,800
in this episode, unfortune. But you know, shout out to

1457
01:06:45,840 --> 01:06:47,960
dig A Luna. Of course, he was always fantastic. I

1458
01:06:47,960 --> 01:06:49,840
think he got the one great scene when he was

1459
01:06:49,880 --> 01:06:54,239
explaining why they should not even trust Luthen's opinion here

1460
01:06:54,280 --> 01:06:56,199
but at least trust that it could be real and

1461
01:06:56,239 --> 01:06:58,440
white look into and that whole idea of you didn't

1462
01:06:58,440 --> 01:07:00,559
even know him and shut other people down other than

1463
01:07:00,679 --> 01:07:02,559
you know, send him off. Money gives this whole speech

1464
01:07:03,039 --> 01:07:04,679
about you know, he saw the good and the bad.

1465
01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:06,679
That was great. The rest episodes he didn't have too

1466
01:07:06,760 --> 01:07:09,440
much to do, Like even the episode with Clear when

1467
01:07:09,440 --> 01:07:12,039
he finds her, that's like more action stuff than Clea's

1468
01:07:12,119 --> 01:07:14,480
driving that scene right, like she's telling the plans, and

1469
01:07:14,920 --> 01:07:17,360
like the last episode is just like and or last

1470
01:07:17,360 --> 01:07:19,880
twenty minutes Andrew Walker on yeav and like looking cool

1471
01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:22,599
and a montage which you know, Diega Luna does look cool.

1472
01:07:22,679 --> 01:07:24,599
But uh, you know, he didn't get too much to

1473
01:07:24,639 --> 01:07:27,599
do in this I feel like this was it's less

1474
01:07:27,599 --> 01:07:29,880
about him here because like he's about to go transition

1475
01:07:29,960 --> 01:07:31,280
to a two and a half hour movie, so you

1476
01:07:31,360 --> 01:07:32,880
got that you kind of want to round off everyone

1477
01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:35,320
else's story because his ending is coming on Rogue one, right,

1478
01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:37,440
But uh, you know, he did get that one great

1479
01:07:37,480 --> 01:07:39,960
scene in this arc, even though there was one moment

1480
01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:42,639
I completely disagreed with the head of my notes, just

1481
01:07:42,679 --> 01:07:44,559
from a tactical point of view, when they get back

1482
01:07:44,559 --> 01:07:48,079
into the room and the stormtroopers and whatever there and

1483
01:07:48,119 --> 01:07:50,280
the other guy's like, oh, my clos stories no, no, no,

1484
01:07:50,480 --> 01:07:53,159
and then they always like, well should I Like.

1485
01:07:53,039 --> 01:07:54,880
Speaker 2: That's like a warzone move, you know. And then and

1486
01:07:54,880 --> 01:07:57,559
then as soon as that happens, we're all like, nice call, Travis.

1487
01:07:57,599 --> 01:07:58,800
You never call again.

1488
01:07:59,519 --> 01:08:03,360
Speaker 1: Because then he's like the guy's like some like fifteen

1489
01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:05,920
seconds twenty seconds pass by, and he's like, so should

1490
01:08:05,960 --> 01:08:07,360
I close the door and he's like no, we could

1491
01:08:07,360 --> 01:08:10,199
get dropped in, And it's like in this second, it's done. Great,

1492
01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:13,800
Like that's the second hand or made that call. I'm like, no,

1493
01:08:13,880 --> 01:08:16,159
wonder why you die and rogue one buddy like fuck,

1494
01:08:16,279 --> 01:08:19,199
like close the door, like what what are you gonna do?

1495
01:08:19,439 --> 01:08:21,840
Run past it because like they can close the door

1496
01:08:21,880 --> 01:08:24,880
and then like reopen it if they win this Like

1497
01:08:24,960 --> 01:08:27,119
it just especially too because like if K twos so

1498
01:08:27,159 --> 01:08:30,439
didn't show up, they're dead because like the fucking buddies

1499
01:08:30,479 --> 01:08:32,439
calling an and Or and he's like oh yeah, oh yeah,

1500
01:08:32,439 --> 01:08:34,520
and he's like looking around the floor for his gun.

1501
01:08:34,640 --> 01:08:37,840
You just see nothing, but like Jesus's cock right now,

1502
01:08:38,000 --> 01:08:40,199
just like white, he can't see anything. So I just

1503
01:08:40,199 --> 01:08:43,199
thought that was like the weirdest, like play twice he

1504
01:08:43,239 --> 01:08:45,279
had the opportunity to change his mind about closing the

1505
01:08:45,319 --> 01:08:47,399
door and he didn't and it fucked them. So I

1506
01:08:47,479 --> 01:08:50,399
just laughed. And so yeah, maybe again not almost tact called.

1507
01:08:50,439 --> 01:08:52,600
Maybe that's why he's not getting that trophy at the

1508
01:08:52,680 --> 01:08:54,520
end of a New Hope, he's not there with everybody else,

1509
01:08:54,560 --> 01:08:58,439
but uh uh, it was nice to have you around again.

1510
01:08:58,520 --> 01:09:01,800
Speaker 2: And or so he's just so good at playing like

1511
01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:05,239
obviously he's a rebellion hero here, but like also just

1512
01:09:05,279 --> 01:09:08,760
the moment when they're doing you know, the the Liar's

1513
01:09:08,800 --> 01:09:15,079
Dice sequence, they're using dominoes the four million. Yeah, but

1514
01:09:15,239 --> 01:09:17,720
just like him socializing like you know, like he's not

1515
01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:21,359
fighting right now, he just got downtime. He's socializing with

1516
01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:25,000
Melchie and K two and just those little like downtime moments.

1517
01:09:25,079 --> 01:09:27,359
It's like, yeah, yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna really miss

1518
01:09:27,439 --> 01:09:30,840
Diego Luna's uh and or performance and just it's just

1519
01:09:30,840 --> 01:09:32,479
a really interesting character and we see a lot of

1520
01:09:32,479 --> 01:09:34,600
different sides of him, and that's something that you do

1521
01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:37,000
get from the year jumps of just kind of like, Okay,

1522
01:09:37,039 --> 01:09:39,439
this is when he's really close with Bis and they're

1523
01:09:39,439 --> 01:09:42,039
doing kind of missions together to Bix has been gone.

1524
01:09:42,079 --> 01:09:44,439
Now he's kind of accepted it. He's he's just full

1525
01:09:44,520 --> 01:09:48,640
on Captain Cassian uh fully in with the with the rebellion,

1526
01:09:48,640 --> 01:09:51,279
and there's been times when he's pissed off at Luthen.

1527
01:09:51,399 --> 01:09:55,319
You know, he explains that here and just really says

1528
01:09:55,319 --> 01:09:57,159
like like he's basically just fucked, like the way that

1529
01:09:57,199 --> 01:09:59,840
he sees the world and where he is now, like

1530
01:09:59,840 --> 01:10:02,680
he he accepts that, like that is actually what's necessary

1531
01:10:02,680 --> 01:10:05,600
in order to make this full scale rebellion. And then yeah,

1532
01:10:05,720 --> 01:10:07,560
just double Downey what you said Travis about the is

1533
01:10:08,079 --> 01:10:11,239
his model, like his his spiel to the council here

1534
01:10:11,279 --> 01:10:14,600
and just just basically telling them about the Death Star.

1535
01:10:14,680 --> 01:10:16,520
And when they're not buying it, it's like none of

1536
01:10:16,600 --> 01:10:19,439
you have even given a fraction of a sacrifice of

1537
01:10:19,479 --> 01:10:21,359
what this person did, and like he died for this

1538
01:10:21,439 --> 01:10:23,479
and you're not even gonna entertain this, this person that

1539
01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:25,479
started this whole rebellion, Like are you kidding me?

1540
01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:25,760
Speaker 1: Here?

1541
01:10:26,079 --> 01:10:28,520
Speaker 2: And it just like it's as if he's in crazy town,

1542
01:10:28,600 --> 01:10:30,560
like are you kidding me? Like like you guys aren't

1543
01:10:30,600 --> 01:10:33,880
taking this right now. So I really really like that sequence.

1544
01:10:34,520 --> 01:10:37,000
I wish that could have been like multiple episodes honestly

1545
01:10:37,039 --> 01:10:39,399
of just like well we won't we which normally in shows,

1546
01:10:39,439 --> 01:10:42,000
I feel like, come on, let's just fucking make this point.

1547
01:10:42,039 --> 01:10:43,840
But the show is just so good. I just I

1548
01:10:43,920 --> 01:10:50,640
want more content wherever it's gonna be and pass on

1549
01:10:50,760 --> 01:10:54,039
to you. Are you in sports.

1550
01:10:55,800 --> 01:10:56,439
Speaker 1: Fin ratings?

1551
01:10:56,479 --> 01:10:56,640
Speaker 4: Now?

1552
01:10:57,880 --> 01:11:00,000
Speaker 1: It might be all I have other the big stuff

1553
01:11:00,159 --> 01:11:01,520
if I'll take a look at my notes, but.

1554
01:11:01,479 --> 01:11:04,239
Speaker 2: I think we've hit most of the You're not gonna

1555
01:11:04,239 --> 01:11:06,479
talk with the big stuff before final ratings, You're like.

1556
01:11:06,399 --> 01:11:08,119
Speaker 1: Oh, we are, That's what I mean. I'm just looking

1557
01:11:08,119 --> 01:11:11,119
at my not see if there's anything else to Kato's

1558
01:11:11,159 --> 01:11:14,399
a shield not closing the door. Yeah, No, I talked

1559
01:11:14,399 --> 01:11:15,920
about everything that's in my notes on the bigs. Is

1560
01:11:15,920 --> 01:11:17,520
there anything else you guys want to talk about that's

1561
01:11:17,560 --> 01:11:24,640
not to BIX related? Shout out to Mikey brought up

1562
01:11:24,680 --> 01:11:26,720
in our discord if we would talk about the sister

1563
01:11:26,920 --> 01:11:29,359
even when they I can't remember the cousin's name, but

1564
01:11:29,399 --> 01:11:32,439
mom math was just like v like even then again,

1565
01:11:32,479 --> 01:11:33,920
that's where it's like, this feels like this should be

1566
01:11:33,960 --> 01:11:37,920
like in a subplot that has many episodes, many more episodes,

1567
01:11:37,960 --> 01:11:39,880
because when she'said, well just needs you find up and

1568
01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:43,000
orsly here and on she goes there and she's like, well,

1569
01:11:43,199 --> 01:11:45,079
Mom wants me to find out if you're lying. And

1570
01:11:45,119 --> 01:11:47,600
then she's like, what's the plans? Anders like, well, you

1571
01:11:47,640 --> 01:11:50,920
know the def star like like it's very like usually

1572
01:11:50,920 --> 01:11:52,439
I feel like you get like this build up of

1573
01:11:52,479 --> 01:11:54,640
like a kind of will they won't they back and forth,

1574
01:11:54,720 --> 01:11:57,199
spying out, spying each other, and they just both lay

1575
01:11:57,239 --> 01:11:59,159
their cards out, and it didn't feel like a like

1576
01:11:59,239 --> 01:12:01,039
we trust each other so well, just like we don't

1577
01:12:01,079 --> 01:12:03,399
have time to actually do like a whole subplot where

1578
01:12:03,439 --> 01:12:06,039
she's trying to end. It's just like that was very easy,

1579
01:12:06,039 --> 01:12:07,920
like mon Mampa could literally go over and do the

1580
01:12:07,960 --> 01:12:10,600
same thing. But it was funny when they were toasting

1581
01:12:10,600 --> 01:12:12,359
all the people they've lost. I thought for sure that's

1582
01:12:12,359 --> 01:12:14,359
when the sisters gotta come up. Didn't even come up.

1583
01:12:14,399 --> 01:12:16,520
Then it's like, yeah, no, she just got massacred on

1584
01:12:16,520 --> 01:12:21,520
that planet. But so this is something where this character

1585
01:12:21,920 --> 01:12:24,680
earlier on when they're I think it's this character. Is

1586
01:12:24,720 --> 01:12:26,319
she the one that mentions BIX to him?

1587
01:12:26,399 --> 01:12:27,680
Speaker 2: Right? Well?

1588
01:12:28,439 --> 01:12:33,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I it was very not confusing. I was

1589
01:12:33,640 --> 01:12:35,720
caught off guard when she mentioned that because I thought

1590
01:12:35,720 --> 01:12:36,840
it would be in a way where all and it

1591
01:12:36,920 --> 01:12:39,399
has never heard anything of her, Like it's just out

1592
01:12:39,399 --> 01:12:42,159
there in the ether, right, but it sounds like it

1593
01:12:42,359 --> 01:12:46,039
and or really want to find her. He could because

1594
01:12:46,079 --> 01:12:47,800
she even says like, oh, well you should, you know,

1595
01:12:47,960 --> 01:12:49,760
find a way to check up in or something like that.

1596
01:12:49,800 --> 01:12:53,239
So that was surprising to me. And obviously he chose

1597
01:12:53,279 --> 01:12:54,640
not to because he said.

1598
01:12:54,479 --> 01:12:56,199
Speaker 3: Like, oh, she say she had a kid.

1599
01:12:56,760 --> 01:12:59,960
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, Taylor just fucking takes he wanted to take.

1600
01:13:00,159 --> 01:13:02,039
I want to say that pigs as a kid fucking

1601
01:13:02,159 --> 01:13:05,520
bastard over here. But uh, like I was surprised that

1602
01:13:05,560 --> 01:13:08,199
he could just contact her, but he does say that, well,

1603
01:13:08,239 --> 01:13:10,720
you know, if she's she was with me, she wouldn't

1604
01:13:10,720 --> 01:13:12,640
be safe and I'd rather be safe, So it makes sense.

1605
01:13:12,720 --> 01:13:14,239
I was just surprised they went that rout. But yeah,

1606
01:13:14,239 --> 01:13:16,600
everything happens. We go back. We did last week say

1607
01:13:16,640 --> 01:13:18,279
like oh we're gonna get updated on this droid. Well

1608
01:13:18,319 --> 01:13:21,000
you know we did. We saw that droid again and

1609
01:13:21,039 --> 01:13:24,000
the way they had it shot. I'm like, man, she's

1610
01:13:24,039 --> 01:13:27,680
gonna turn around a fucking kid, And like Taylor Field said,

1611
01:13:27,680 --> 01:13:30,399
there that's what happened. It's just so funny.

1612
01:13:30,399 --> 01:13:30,439
Speaker 2: Me.

1613
01:13:30,479 --> 01:13:32,439
Speaker 1: Tuble was last week where I said there was that shot.

1614
01:13:32,479 --> 01:13:34,520
And also there was no revelation there, but there was

1615
01:13:34,520 --> 01:13:36,680
that shot of her when it was just her torso up,

1616
01:13:36,680 --> 01:13:38,640
I'm like, oh man, they're gonna make her prey in

1617
01:13:38,720 --> 01:13:40,479
that's gonna be fucking heartbreaking. And then they went to the

1618
01:13:40,479 --> 01:13:43,079
wide angle like oh no they didn't. Okay, but just

1619
01:13:43,159 --> 01:13:45,520
like whoever is in the writing room, bravo, because they

1620
01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:48,159
had the same thought of oh how came I after

1621
01:13:48,199 --> 01:13:51,760
we've spent two seasons of making this show that no

1622
01:13:51,800 --> 01:13:54,079
one counted on and Or being one of their Fairit characters.

1623
01:13:54,119 --> 01:13:56,079
Not the same for everybody, right, but for many people

1624
01:13:56,159 --> 01:13:59,079
and ors loved the show, the character, and now they

1625
01:13:59,239 --> 01:14:02,319
they even want without this little piece of information watching

1626
01:14:02,399 --> 01:14:05,000
Rogue one, I'll feel so much worse when and Or dies,

1627
01:14:05,399 --> 01:14:08,119
Like how even more? Can we just twist the knife?

1628
01:14:08,159 --> 01:14:09,560
And that's why I thought they were gonna do it.

1629
01:14:09,600 --> 01:14:12,039
But when last week they revealed she wasn't pregnant, Okay,

1630
01:14:12,399 --> 01:14:14,600
you know, it's just me fantasy booking here, but man,

1631
01:14:14,760 --> 01:14:16,840
when I could see like she's holding something they turned

1632
01:14:16,840 --> 01:14:19,439
the camera around and she's a kid, It's like, fuck, man,

1633
01:14:19,520 --> 01:14:22,520
that makes it so much worse that the whole like, well, yeah,

1634
01:14:22,680 --> 01:14:25,479
after we, you know, defeat the Empire, I'm gonna confine you.

1635
01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:28,840
And or has no idea. And again from Bix, it

1636
01:14:28,880 --> 01:14:31,039
makes sense, right because if he knows he has a

1637
01:14:31,119 --> 01:14:33,279
kid out there, he's probably not doing these missions, right,

1638
01:14:33,479 --> 01:14:36,319
He's probably back with her. He's probably not gonna do this.

1639
01:14:36,399 --> 01:14:39,119
But that was just man, and I literally teared up

1640
01:14:39,119 --> 01:14:40,319
because it was one of those things where it's like,

1641
01:14:40,399 --> 01:14:43,439
that's just that is fucking brutal. When I watched Rogue one,

1642
01:14:43,439 --> 01:14:45,560
now I's like, man, this guy has no idea, he's

1643
01:14:45,600 --> 01:14:47,600
a kid out there, and he's just like he just

1644
01:14:47,600 --> 01:14:48,960
wants to get back to Bis. But he didn't me

1645
01:14:49,000 --> 01:14:50,920
know that. And now he's gonna die, you know, not

1646
01:14:51,000 --> 01:14:52,920
even meeting this kid. He's never gonna meet him. You're

1647
01:14:52,920 --> 01:14:55,520
just gonna hear stories about it. And then he's gonna die,

1648
01:14:55,640 --> 01:14:58,159
like not even the face of the belly and he's

1649
01:14:58,199 --> 01:14:59,920
just like, oh, one of the many spies that helped

1650
01:15:00,279 --> 01:15:03,079
along and everything. So when that reveal happened, man, that

1651
01:15:03,159 --> 01:15:06,119
was Chef's kiss and that was like that that ending shot,

1652
01:15:06,159 --> 01:15:08,279
It's gonna stick with me for a very long time.

1653
01:15:08,319 --> 01:15:11,560
So kudos to the team for just going that far.

1654
01:15:11,680 --> 01:15:16,840
Speaker 2: Into it, so yeah, I mean, I uh, I was

1655
01:15:16,880 --> 01:15:20,560
really shocked by the whole thing. I was. I don't know,

1656
01:15:20,600 --> 01:15:22,680
I'm kind of in two hands here because part of

1657
01:15:22,720 --> 01:15:26,560
me felt really just like why are we even doing this?

1658
01:15:26,600 --> 01:15:29,000
When Belle was bringing up the big stuff to him,

1659
01:15:29,039 --> 01:15:32,039
like it just seems so unnecessary, because like I I

1660
01:15:32,079 --> 01:15:34,039
was under the impression also that like he just has

1661
01:15:34,039 --> 01:15:36,319
no way of contacting her, like that was a part

1662
01:15:36,359 --> 01:15:41,000
of it, like she's just you know, can yeah, like

1663
01:15:41,039 --> 01:15:43,159
she took the breaking bad phone call thing, like like

1664
01:15:43,239 --> 01:15:45,920
she's out of there now, like like she's she's completely gone.

1665
01:15:46,800 --> 01:15:48,720
But in that moment, it seemed like, well, it sounds

1666
01:15:48,720 --> 01:15:50,920
like she's open to you coming back, and it's like, well, then,

1667
01:15:50,920 --> 01:15:52,720
why the fuck did she even do this? Like I

1668
01:15:52,720 --> 01:15:54,479
guess you can make the argument that it's been a year,

1669
01:15:54,840 --> 01:15:56,840
but like it's also only been a year, like like

1670
01:15:57,199 --> 01:15:59,920
it hasn't been that much time that's been going on,

1671
01:16:00,319 --> 01:16:03,159
And it just seems like he's in a place right

1672
01:16:03,159 --> 01:16:05,319
now where he's fully accepted that this is the best

1673
01:16:05,359 --> 01:16:07,680
case for it, and he does say that even in

1674
01:16:07,680 --> 01:16:09,399
that conversation, but it's like, why are we even bringing

1675
01:16:09,399 --> 01:16:11,319
this up right now? Like it's not like the war

1676
01:16:11,399 --> 01:16:14,600
is over, like like the rebellion is starting here, like

1677
01:16:14,640 --> 01:16:16,520
we kind of need all hands on deck.

1678
01:16:17,960 --> 01:16:19,399
Speaker 1: She left him for a specific reason.

1679
01:16:19,680 --> 01:16:24,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exactly. So I was really like, it sounds

1680
01:16:24,840 --> 01:16:26,800
too extreme, but I I I think it's like a

1681
01:16:27,000 --> 01:16:30,000
con honestly that that even happened. And then we get

1682
01:16:30,039 --> 01:16:32,439
to the moment with Bix like on the planet and

1683
01:16:32,960 --> 01:16:35,840
it's really powerful. I definitely think it's it adds to

1684
01:16:35,880 --> 01:16:39,239
just the the tragedy of losing Ander when we get

1685
01:16:39,239 --> 01:16:44,520
to Rogue one. But yeah, I think we could still

1686
01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:49,239
get that without Vell bringing up like, uh, bix Beck's

1687
01:16:49,560 --> 01:16:51,319
she's been gone too long. I don't even remember a sername.

1688
01:16:51,840 --> 01:16:53,840
Speaker 1: You didn't need it, he didn't need it all. I

1689
01:16:53,840 --> 01:16:55,760
guess it just show like I don't know, I guess

1690
01:16:55,760 --> 01:16:59,039
it showed that and or came the conclusion that Bicks

1691
01:16:59,279 --> 01:17:01,239
was right. But it's just like if.

1692
01:17:02,560 --> 01:17:05,119
Speaker 2: I don't know that already, because he's here doing the

1693
01:17:05,159 --> 01:17:07,600
rebellion things like, yeah, I been looking for her in

1694
01:17:07,640 --> 01:17:08,600
the cosmos somewhere.

1695
01:17:08,680 --> 01:17:10,880
Speaker 1: I think. Well, I think that's the argument they're making, though,

1696
01:17:10,960 --> 01:17:13,000
is that he has the way that he could just

1697
01:17:13,039 --> 01:17:16,680
get to her where if he didn't. The argument could be, oh,

1698
01:17:16,680 --> 01:17:18,359
well he's been out there just searching ever since the

1699
01:17:18,439 --> 01:17:20,760
year he's been he left like obviously didn't because they

1700
01:17:20,800 --> 01:17:22,680
got the K two droid. But that's the case. I

1701
01:17:22,720 --> 01:17:24,560
think they want to show like know and or really

1702
01:17:25,000 --> 01:17:28,319
he could have found Bicks and been with her but

1703
01:17:28,359 --> 01:17:30,520
he chose not to. But it's like, well, like and

1704
01:17:30,560 --> 01:17:32,399
I don't know, I kind of I feel like that

1705
01:17:32,479 --> 01:17:34,720
kind of takes away from Bix's moment last week of

1706
01:17:34,840 --> 01:17:36,920
like I guess what, I get what they're doing for

1707
01:17:36,960 --> 01:17:39,359
and or but like I almost like that in the

1708
01:17:39,560 --> 01:17:42,000
horrific way. If he doesn't get a choice, it's almost

1709
01:17:42,000 --> 01:17:43,479
like you have to be here. And then he does

1710
01:17:43,520 --> 01:17:46,560
me realize, like I'd be fine if they brought Bicks

1711
01:17:46,880 --> 01:17:49,000
and he says, oh, yeah, she made the right decision

1712
01:17:49,359 --> 01:17:50,720
or something like that, but not in a way where

1713
01:17:50,720 --> 01:17:52,319
it's like, hey, you should get back in touch with her,

1714
01:17:52,359 --> 01:17:53,880
you know, like not that like just in a way

1715
01:17:53,880 --> 01:17:57,520
where he does realize she was correct. I did want

1716
01:17:57,520 --> 01:17:58,880
to be with her, but my place is here. I

1717
01:17:58,920 --> 01:18:00,680
got to make a difference. I would have been fine

1718
01:18:00,720 --> 01:18:02,399
with that if for some reason, like if they're talking

1719
01:18:02,399 --> 01:18:04,000
about when they're all you could have done is the

1720
01:18:04,039 --> 01:18:06,840
scene where they're toasting even though they didn't lose Bix.

1721
01:18:06,920 --> 01:18:08,760
You could bring her up in that scenario right off

1722
01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:11,279
the people that we've traveled with, and that's where we

1723
01:18:11,319 --> 01:18:13,279
can have that scene of you know, when she left me,

1724
01:18:13,319 --> 01:18:15,199
I was crushed, didn't know I was gonna do, but

1725
01:18:15,239 --> 01:18:17,560
she was absolutely right, and she's not with me, but

1726
01:18:17,600 --> 01:18:20,199
she's safer. That's it. That's easy. So I agree. It's

1727
01:18:20,239 --> 01:18:22,199
kind of a minor critique of mine. It just felt

1728
01:18:22,520 --> 01:18:25,119
like they're trying to like remind us, like, hey, remember Bix.

1729
01:18:25,159 --> 01:18:29,199
It's like it's been yeah, last week, like two weeks ago,

1730
01:18:29,199 --> 01:18:31,760
I guess if you were watching in order or something.

1731
01:18:31,840 --> 01:18:34,439
Speaker 2: But so thinking about it now, I feel like it

1732
01:18:34,479 --> 01:18:36,960
could have been so much better if and like that

1733
01:18:37,079 --> 01:18:40,800
much more just brutal. I think if Velle knew about

1734
01:18:40,800 --> 01:18:43,479
like the pregnancy, and she was torn on telling Cassian

1735
01:18:43,720 --> 01:18:46,560
and then she never did, like like they have that moment,

1736
01:18:46,560 --> 01:18:49,359
maybe he does do like the the toasting off to Bix,

1737
01:18:49,800 --> 01:18:51,439
and then she just kind of holds it back and

1738
01:18:51,479 --> 01:18:53,880
just lets it lie because he is more important here.

1739
01:18:53,920 --> 01:18:56,479
I think that's maybe a better way to do that.

1740
01:18:56,600 --> 01:19:00,279
But uh, and again again, I'm kinda I'm picking that's

1741
01:19:00,279 --> 01:19:03,119
a very minor thing here, Like it's a con but

1742
01:19:03,359 --> 01:19:05,920
like the overall health of the show doesn't bring it

1743
01:19:05,960 --> 01:19:08,159
down by any means, but it's it's something that I

1744
01:19:08,199 --> 01:19:10,399
was scratching my head on just because I think the

1745
01:19:10,439 --> 01:19:12,560
whole quality of the show has just been so seamless,

1746
01:19:12,800 --> 01:19:15,560
and then in here it just seemed like there's a couple.

1747
01:19:15,359 --> 01:19:18,640
Speaker 1: Of Mario right, every once in while they slip, Yeah,

1748
01:19:19,079 --> 01:19:21,000
a couple that's supposed to go like there's always I

1749
01:19:21,000 --> 01:19:24,000
feel like it's because this show is so fucking good.

1750
01:19:24,039 --> 01:19:26,640
It's like, all right, I'll let you afford this one slip.

1751
01:19:26,680 --> 01:19:27,920
But every once in a while you just look like,

1752
01:19:28,359 --> 01:19:30,800
did no one look at this? Like do we need this?

1753
01:19:30,880 --> 01:19:34,079
Is this smooth? And it's like, but we fucking we're locking?

1754
01:19:34,319 --> 01:19:37,279
Did he d dropping jail? Like, yeah, that's pretty.

1755
01:19:37,039 --> 01:19:43,800
Speaker 2: Good, locking dideo for life.

1756
01:19:47,359 --> 01:19:49,920
Speaker 1: He should have took maybe the fucking party grass route.

1757
01:19:49,960 --> 01:19:54,399
But that's a whole another conversation. Uh D, how'd you

1758
01:19:54,399 --> 01:19:57,159
feel on the BIGS reveal here?

1759
01:19:58,079 --> 01:20:00,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I I was expecting it. Mass looked over me.

1760
01:20:00,640 --> 01:20:02,680
He's like, why would they do that? Like, what the hell?

1761
01:20:03,119 --> 01:20:04,640
Why they just want to make people feel like.

1762
01:20:05,000 --> 01:20:11,039
Speaker 1: Is tweeting at Tony Gilly, Now tell me why I'm

1763
01:20:11,079 --> 01:20:12,760
gonna rip your posters down to.

1764
01:20:14,800 --> 01:20:17,520
Speaker 4: But yeah, I think it's it is it's it's like

1765
01:20:17,560 --> 01:20:20,079
he said, twisting that dagger, and it's fucking brutal knowing

1766
01:20:20,119 --> 01:20:21,720
that once you get into rogue one that he's got,

1767
01:20:22,399 --> 01:20:24,800
he's got a little child out there and he's not

1768
01:20:24,840 --> 01:20:26,680
gonna be able to He doesn't know that that kid

1769
01:20:26,800 --> 01:20:29,600
is out there, his child. And makes it a lot

1770
01:20:29,600 --> 01:20:31,640
better too that he does not kiss Ray in that

1771
01:20:31,760 --> 01:20:35,640
end scene before they die, or not Ray gin Gin.

1772
01:20:36,760 --> 01:20:41,680
Speaker 1: I don't know you, little girl, but well raised like

1773
01:20:41,720 --> 01:20:44,319
a fucking like mbo. Right now she's not even live.

1774
01:20:45,399 --> 01:20:49,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, a little Palpatine grandchild, his child snooke in the future.

1775
01:20:49,920 --> 01:20:53,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know. I just thought about that. He's fucking

1776
01:20:53,159 --> 01:20:55,479
this woman on the beach and he's got picks up

1777
01:20:55,479 --> 01:20:56,560
there waiting for him. You know.

1778
01:20:56,760 --> 01:20:59,159
Speaker 2: So they broke up, right, I would have been it.

1779
01:20:59,159 --> 01:21:00,800
Speaker 1: But they're supposed to be back together after they're going

1780
01:21:00,880 --> 01:21:01,119
to break.

1781
01:21:01,159 --> 01:21:01,800
Speaker 3: They're going to break.

1782
01:21:03,000 --> 01:21:07,960
Speaker 2: This is the friends thing with Rachel and uh.

1783
01:21:08,880 --> 01:21:12,279
Speaker 1: Okay, so a war starts Kirkling and she's like, hey,

1784
01:21:12,319 --> 01:21:14,239
we'll be back together, but the war has the end.

1785
01:21:14,279 --> 01:21:15,560
Do you consider yourself broken up?

1786
01:21:16,600 --> 01:21:20,680
Speaker 2: IM? I guess not. Yeah, I guess you got me there.

1787
01:21:20,960 --> 01:21:24,000
It's just I think the imperial scale of this, this

1788
01:21:24,119 --> 01:21:28,279
intergalactic rebellion, it's this war's not ending. Come on, this

1789
01:21:28,359 --> 01:21:29,520
is is the biggest of the world War.

1790
01:21:29,560 --> 01:21:32,239
Speaker 1: Well it does, you know, just give five six more years.

1791
01:21:32,399 --> 01:21:35,600
I see why I would you know like this, why

1792
01:21:35,640 --> 01:21:37,279
I would consider us broken up because it was a

1793
01:21:37,359 --> 01:21:40,880
mutual decision. She made that decision for us. She wasn't like, yeah,

1794
01:21:41,000 --> 01:21:43,640
let's talk about it. You're right, leave when the war's over,

1795
01:21:43,720 --> 01:21:46,199
let's get back together. It's just like, well, fuck me,

1796
01:21:46,319 --> 01:21:48,279
Like I didn't get any say in this, Like, even

1797
01:21:48,279 --> 01:21:50,960
if it is the right decision, it's like that's and

1798
01:21:51,000 --> 01:21:52,800
the same thing makes me fucking dead somewhere. So you're

1799
01:21:52,840 --> 01:21:54,479
not supposed to progress your life at all.

1800
01:21:54,279 --> 01:21:56,800
Speaker 3: And she sleeps with him the night before and then

1801
01:21:56,880 --> 01:21:58,239
leaves a note right for.

1802
01:21:58,479 --> 01:22:01,119
Speaker 1: She and purposely he like looked over what a doing

1803
01:22:01,479 --> 01:22:02,720
and her legs are up.

1804
01:22:02,840 --> 01:22:03,960
Speaker 3: She's gone him off.

1805
01:22:05,039 --> 01:22:07,760
Speaker 1: Yeah. Is there a chance though, because it's a year

1806
01:22:07,920 --> 01:22:09,920
and that kid was looking a bit bigger? Is there

1807
01:22:10,600 --> 01:22:12,439
I think there's a chance that she already knew she

1808
01:22:12,520 --> 01:22:14,520
was pregnant last week when she gave that ultimatum.

1809
01:22:15,039 --> 01:22:17,399
Speaker 3: Is there a chance that he was not the father.

1810
01:22:20,960 --> 01:22:22,000
Speaker 2: The brack or something.

1811
01:22:22,119 --> 01:22:26,920
Speaker 1: It's like little horns luthen.

1812
01:22:26,720 --> 01:22:30,000
Speaker 3: Comes a painful pregnancy what's his name?

1813
01:22:31,199 --> 01:22:33,840
Speaker 1: Like there's a what if where? And or comes back

1814
01:22:33,920 --> 01:22:36,159
like the war's over, Bix, we could be together, and

1815
01:22:36,199 --> 01:22:38,800
then they look at it's a little fucking doth rat. Hello,

1816
01:22:38,960 --> 01:22:48,359
father here, I should have you on that beach. My god, Taylor,

1817
01:22:48,600 --> 01:22:53,600
same question you.

1818
01:22:51,439 --> 01:22:52,359
Speaker 3: Who the father is?

1819
01:22:53,119 --> 01:22:55,199
Speaker 1: No mass and leaves you know it says she's leaving.

1820
01:22:55,279 --> 01:22:56,760
Well one, do you guys agree that she might have

1821
01:22:56,800 --> 01:22:59,199
been pregnant or very likely was pregnant last year she

1822
01:22:59,239 --> 01:23:01,640
left him? Yes, okay, it's like when the baby happens.

1823
01:23:01,640 --> 01:23:03,439
So then that we're all on the same pitch there.

1824
01:23:03,640 --> 01:23:06,199
And then Taylor, if Madison left you note saying, oh,

1825
01:23:06,199 --> 01:23:07,960
after the war, we're gonna be together, do you consider

1826
01:23:08,000 --> 01:23:08,640
so broken up?

1827
01:23:09,039 --> 01:23:09,279
Speaker 3: If?

1828
01:23:09,359 --> 01:23:12,479
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, we're heat of war and Madison seizes me

1829
01:23:12,520 --> 01:23:15,439
that night, gets up and leaves the wars and all

1830
01:23:15,479 --> 01:23:18,960
I wake up to is a note saying that this

1831
01:23:19,000 --> 01:23:21,720
is what it's gonna be we would not be broken up. No,

1832
01:23:22,000 --> 01:23:25,640
I I'd be get away from you that easily.

1833
01:23:26,159 --> 01:23:26,359
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1834
01:23:35,479 --> 01:23:37,319
Speaker 1: Is that the save on three blocks from now? Go

1835
01:23:37,319 --> 01:23:37,600
go go?

1836
01:23:37,840 --> 01:23:38,119
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1837
01:23:39,880 --> 01:23:42,359
Speaker 1: All right, then let us know on the colls see

1838
01:23:42,399 --> 01:23:44,560
if anyone agrees with me that because it's not a

1839
01:23:44,640 --> 01:23:46,560
mutual decision, and I'm not saying for sure, i'd be

1840
01:23:46,680 --> 01:23:49,159
like I'm looking for pussy, Like I'm not saying that,

1841
01:23:49,279 --> 01:23:51,800
like the second just go on. I'm sure it hurt

1842
01:23:51,880 --> 01:23:53,880
me and maybe I'm maybe i'd have to field in

1843
01:23:53,920 --> 01:23:55,319
the moment, but I just feel like there is like

1844
01:23:55,359 --> 01:23:58,760
a it's not completely mutual rights And wouldn't you be

1845
01:23:58,800 --> 01:24:00,760
so mad too? I'll see, didn't have But if that

1846
01:24:00,760 --> 01:24:03,079
war ends and she's with somebody else, so is she

1847
01:24:03,119 --> 01:24:05,079
telling I guess is she telling every guy like no,

1848
01:24:05,119 --> 01:24:07,800
I'm waiting for his father to come back. It's like

1849
01:24:08,279 --> 01:24:09,159
it's six years.

1850
01:24:09,399 --> 01:24:11,920
Speaker 4: It's not the story she's stuck with when the Imperials

1851
01:24:11,920 --> 01:24:13,840
were there, right, like, oh, that's for.

1852
01:24:13,840 --> 01:24:16,600
Speaker 1: My husband's She always says that my husband working. But like,

1853
01:24:17,119 --> 01:24:20,640
at any point does she find out and ors dead

1854
01:24:20,800 --> 01:24:32,279
comes back? The double drap? We got the double of

1855
01:24:32,279 --> 01:24:35,079
it tonight. I was gonna say, because like does she

1856
01:24:35,279 --> 01:24:38,359
just like the empire war ends and then andor never

1857
01:24:38,399 --> 01:24:41,359
comes back. She's like, well, I guess he's dead, you know,

1858
01:24:41,600 --> 01:24:43,520
like or did she find out before? Then?

1859
01:24:43,920 --> 01:24:45,720
Speaker 2: She seems like she's accepted.

1860
01:24:47,319 --> 01:24:49,319
Speaker 4: At this point, considering there's a lot of people that

1861
01:24:49,399 --> 01:24:51,479
do know and Or. I feel that it's safe to

1862
01:24:51,520 --> 01:24:54,359
say that people obviously know about Bix too, and then

1863
01:24:54,359 --> 01:24:57,079
they'll probably report to her about you know, the fallout.

1864
01:24:57,159 --> 01:24:57,960
Speaker 3: But again.

1865
01:24:59,399 --> 01:25:05,359
Speaker 1: Pict HiT's that picture of him, tell I'm gonna find it.

1866
01:25:05,359 --> 01:25:07,920
It's just like front bit like hero and or dies

1867
01:25:07,960 --> 01:25:09,039
well sex, you know, like.

1868
01:25:09,640 --> 01:25:12,000
Speaker 4: If anyone was to say anything, I feel like, like

1869
01:25:12,159 --> 01:25:14,920
mon Mathma, who knows that Cassio was a part of

1870
01:25:14,920 --> 01:25:18,479
that group and got the plants, because I would give

1871
01:25:18,520 --> 01:25:21,880
them credit that he's not like a super big unknown too,

1872
01:25:21,960 --> 01:25:24,039
because I mean they managed to get the plants that

1873
01:25:24,039 --> 01:25:25,199
that strike team.

1874
01:25:25,039 --> 01:25:29,359
Speaker 1: So like imagine pigs whore it opens up for newspaper

1875
01:25:30,600 --> 01:25:35,159
photo and are just embracing.

1876
01:25:35,680 --> 01:25:36,840
Speaker 2: Get but ass naked.

1877
01:25:38,079 --> 01:25:39,840
Speaker 1: If you were to see that, you would think like,

1878
01:25:40,079 --> 01:25:42,640
even if he didn't have sex and like that assholes

1879
01:25:42,680 --> 01:25:47,520
fucking soon the whole time, I was gone, oh my god, geez,

1880
01:25:47,560 --> 01:25:51,119
well sorry, maybe my whole. I hold my hope that

1881
01:25:51,159 --> 01:25:55,680
we're our post episode six TV show series show fucking

1882
01:25:55,720 --> 01:25:57,520
but and Or's son, you know, get him in there.

1883
01:25:57,520 --> 01:26:01,000
Whatever his name is, Hell, just swap it, have Diego

1884
01:26:01,079 --> 01:26:04,720
Luna play him. Don't even don't say anything about it,

1885
01:26:04,760 --> 01:26:07,479
just just just play it straight. That he looks exactly

1886
01:26:07,479 --> 01:26:09,000
like his father and go.

1887
01:26:09,279 --> 01:26:12,000
Speaker 3: I would say he's a broom boy from Last Jedi.

1888
01:26:12,840 --> 01:26:15,600
Speaker 1: Oh God, the Bigs. Then he's like a little slave

1889
01:26:15,840 --> 01:26:16,560
on canto bike.

1890
01:26:17,159 --> 01:26:19,039
Speaker 3: Yeah, she get killed by the first Order or something

1891
01:26:19,039 --> 01:26:21,960
like that. She just waiting for and Or you and

1892
01:26:22,119 --> 01:26:22,560
or kid.

1893
01:26:22,720 --> 01:26:28,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, go with us, Geez, Connor says my head. Ken

1894
01:26:28,399 --> 01:26:31,199
is that Vel goes to min Aaru after scaref to

1895
01:26:31,239 --> 01:26:32,800
delve in the news Bigs goes back to Fix at

1896
01:26:32,800 --> 01:26:34,319
the end of the war as lays a brick for

1897
01:26:34,880 --> 01:26:38,279
Cassi and Brosol. Yeah, I could see again, we're having

1898
01:26:38,279 --> 01:26:40,760
some fun. I do imagine. Yes, there would be away

1899
01:26:40,800 --> 01:26:42,560
for her nobody even then it might take some time

1900
01:26:42,600 --> 01:26:45,399
because you might just think he's out there. But yeah,

1901
01:26:45,560 --> 01:26:48,800
so sucks. Sucks for that. But we're not gonnat any

1902
01:26:48,800 --> 01:26:51,159
follow up there, which is fine. That's ending on a

1903
01:26:51,319 --> 01:26:53,159
solemn note. But anything else.

1904
01:26:53,680 --> 01:26:56,079
Speaker 4: I want to say, it's apparently super easy to just

1905
01:26:56,119 --> 01:26:58,800
show up at coroissants because they show up in their ewang,

1906
01:26:58,840 --> 01:27:00,840
they land, they have no fun in trouble at all,

1907
01:27:01,079 --> 01:27:01,960
And I thought.

1908
01:27:01,760 --> 01:27:04,000
Speaker 1: That's there really easy too.

1909
01:27:04,079 --> 01:27:05,720
Speaker 3: When they got out there really easy.

1910
01:27:06,199 --> 01:27:08,560
Speaker 1: That was definitely some we don't have time that we're

1911
01:27:08,600 --> 01:27:11,319
just gonna like when they took out that squad and

1912
01:27:11,319 --> 01:27:13,479
then they're like walking back to their playing like there's

1913
01:27:13,479 --> 01:27:17,000
no gunfire, there's no other guards position outside. It was

1914
01:27:17,000 --> 01:27:19,079
was a very easy, like kind of like we say,

1915
01:27:19,119 --> 01:27:21,640
like skip a cut scene type of writing.

1916
01:27:21,720 --> 01:27:25,359
Speaker 2: But well, they're all they're all looking for the diseased,

1917
01:27:28,119 --> 01:27:31,279
I guess, but they think the disease lay is there.

1918
01:27:31,319 --> 01:27:32,960
Speaker 1: So I just feel like you they even said like, oh,

1919
01:27:32,960 --> 01:27:34,840
we're saiding the strike team. It's like that's all we

1920
01:27:34,880 --> 01:27:35,800
had for the strike team.

1921
01:27:36,000 --> 01:27:38,520
Speaker 2: Like I guess in the area is where they cut

1922
01:27:38,520 --> 01:27:40,720
coms not everywhere, right.

1923
01:27:40,800 --> 01:27:43,560
Speaker 1: Yeah they are. Yeah, So just felt a little easy.

1924
01:27:44,039 --> 01:27:47,199
Speaker 2: Fair enough somewhere like Courisant, though, like it would have

1925
01:27:47,239 --> 01:27:50,479
to have like open whatever the fuck could be borders

1926
01:27:50,560 --> 01:27:52,640
atmosphere where like people can just go in and out

1927
01:27:52,800 --> 01:27:55,960
versus other planets when there's like blockades where you need

1928
01:27:56,000 --> 01:27:58,439
like clearance for something. I just feel like there's so

1929
01:27:58,720 --> 01:28:02,520
much stuff going on for sant air traffic control, you know,

1930
01:28:02,680 --> 01:28:04,960
like they can't fucking manage every ship coming in and

1931
01:28:04,960 --> 01:28:07,720
out of the planet, let alone the little hub that

1932
01:28:07,760 --> 01:28:08,119
they're in.

1933
01:28:08,159 --> 01:28:09,840
Speaker 4: But then you know what, you load up one of

1934
01:28:09,840 --> 01:28:13,359
those monkaba and cruisers loaded up with the fucking next

1935
01:28:13,479 --> 01:28:16,600
level amount of TNT. It just hyperspace right in the

1936
01:28:16,640 --> 01:28:20,159
atmosphere of Coursar b lined to Palpatine's fucking temple and

1937
01:28:20,199 --> 01:28:22,159
he's done the wars over what are they going to do?

1938
01:28:22,439 --> 01:28:24,640
Speaker 2: I kind of forget that Palpatine is just chilling on

1939
01:28:24,680 --> 01:28:28,520
Coursont in his temple, just doing his chin up exercises.

1940
01:28:28,560 --> 01:28:31,199
Speaker 1: Well, they're always there, though he does travel sometimes.

1941
01:28:30,840 --> 01:28:32,600
Speaker 3: When he's going to axag back and forth.

1942
01:28:33,159 --> 01:28:35,399
Speaker 2: He had the best star just staring at it.

1943
01:28:35,680 --> 01:28:37,680
Speaker 3: He never went to the first star. I don't think.

1944
01:28:38,000 --> 01:28:38,680
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1945
01:28:38,520 --> 01:28:42,279
Speaker 1: Because you just and I guess he had the second

1946
01:28:42,319 --> 01:28:43,720
step start. That's where he does die.

1947
01:28:44,720 --> 01:28:47,880
Speaker 2: I guess where does he mean Vader? In episode four?

1948
01:28:48,520 --> 01:28:50,840
Speaker 3: He does, He wasn't in episode.

1949
01:28:50,479 --> 01:28:53,800
Speaker 4: Four and in episode five he only he's on course

1950
01:28:53,920 --> 01:28:56,079
on But yeah, it's it's calms basically, while the.

1951
01:28:56,720 --> 01:29:00,640
Speaker 1: Mendel for me, I totally just remember that and remember, well,

1952
01:29:00,720 --> 01:29:03,479
now it's changed. But in the original episode five, it wasn't.

1953
01:29:04,079 --> 01:29:05,439
I think it was Terrence Stamp.

1954
01:29:05,159 --> 01:29:07,359
Speaker 3: That was playing it was they changed him.

1955
01:29:07,560 --> 01:29:10,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, they changed it to Ian mcderhmom, but yeah, I

1956
01:29:10,079 --> 01:29:13,680
mc dermott then on six, which is like, I wonder

1957
01:29:13,840 --> 01:29:17,119
why Palpatine actually did go to the second Death Star

1958
01:29:17,199 --> 01:29:18,800
after the first one got blown up. I feel like

1959
01:29:18,840 --> 01:29:19,439
you first.

1960
01:29:19,199 --> 01:29:21,479
Speaker 2: One blew up. He's got to figure out what's going on.

1961
01:29:22,279 --> 01:29:27,239
Speaker 1: You go bring Luke to exicle, like, don't bring I'm

1962
01:29:27,279 --> 01:29:28,920
not gonna come to the Death Star. You bring him

1963
01:29:29,000 --> 01:29:29,319
to us.

1964
01:29:29,960 --> 01:29:32,680
Speaker 4: Do you remember Palpatine's like og voice and empire before

1965
01:29:32,720 --> 01:29:36,680
they changed it, because it was like, uh, it was

1966
01:29:36,720 --> 01:29:38,600
not like anything like Ian's.

1967
01:29:38,239 --> 01:29:42,039
Speaker 1: Like, no, it's it's it's deeper in my opinion, and

1968
01:29:42,199 --> 01:29:44,880
it just it just feels like not sickly, not sill

1969
01:29:45,479 --> 01:29:48,640
It's not as threatening. I think Palpatine like Ian's like a.

1970
01:29:48,720 --> 01:29:51,520
Speaker 3: Stern nineteen fifties man kind of a voice.

1971
01:29:51,640 --> 01:29:54,680
Speaker 1: Yes, it's more like a commander captain to me of

1972
01:29:54,720 --> 01:29:57,880
like this is the leader where Palpatine, like Ian's is

1973
01:29:58,000 --> 01:30:00,960
very creepy and slinky and like, oh, I don't want

1974
01:30:00,960 --> 01:30:03,520
to mess with this guy, Like definitely e mcdermomy, you know,

1975
01:30:04,079 --> 01:30:07,520
honestly great praise, but like it, And I think that's

1976
01:30:07,600 --> 01:30:10,840
the the best Palpatine is Return the Jedi, because I

1977
01:30:10,840 --> 01:30:13,600
think in the prequels he gets a little he goes

1978
01:30:13,600 --> 01:30:15,760
a little overboard, especially in Revenge of Saith.

1979
01:30:15,800 --> 01:30:17,600
Speaker 3: He he he's.

1980
01:30:17,439 --> 01:30:20,279
Speaker 1: Chewing scenery with those oh ah, like those faces he's

1981
01:30:20,319 --> 01:30:24,039
making like it's so good. Yeah, No, Return the Jedi

1982
01:30:24,239 --> 01:30:28,159
Palatina is to me prime Palpatine, Like he nailed all that.

1983
01:30:28,359 --> 01:30:32,319
Speaker 4: But I really like again Rise of Skywalker. It's a

1984
01:30:32,319 --> 01:30:34,720
whole can of worms. But and this it could have

1985
01:30:34,720 --> 01:30:36,920
been a different story. But everything Palpatine in there I

1986
01:30:37,039 --> 01:30:38,600
really loved just there.

1987
01:30:39,079 --> 01:30:42,159
Speaker 1: I just haven't seen it enough to like recall that.

1988
01:30:42,239 --> 01:30:43,840
I think I've only seen it twice now. But we

1989
01:30:43,880 --> 01:30:46,760
are gonna I can't remember when, but oh, next year

1990
01:30:46,800 --> 01:30:48,600
with Manuel and Gruger, we're gonna go back and we're

1991
01:30:48,640 --> 01:30:51,399
gonna do a commentary track first, guys, Rice Skywalkers. We

1992
01:30:51,439 --> 01:30:53,720
haven't done that so and we'll probably do one for

1993
01:30:54,039 --> 01:30:56,600
Rogue one and you know, maybe solo at some point,

1994
01:30:56,640 --> 01:30:57,479
we'll find something.

1995
01:30:57,520 --> 01:31:01,319
Speaker 4: But I wouldn't put it past them to pull uh

1996
01:31:01,560 --> 01:31:05,079
Cassian and Bix's son into some future thing, you know,

1997
01:31:05,119 --> 01:31:07,399
maybe in that six to seven arc, because then you're

1998
01:31:07,399 --> 01:31:11,800
dealing with a twenty years jump between that and.

1999
01:31:10,720 --> 01:31:13,760
Speaker 1: Again, give me if they were in a week or

2000
01:31:13,800 --> 01:31:16,760
two from now next whatever. Star Celebration announced that the

2001
01:31:16,800 --> 01:31:20,680
Gilroys are doing a series after whatever, you know, and

2002
01:31:20,720 --> 01:31:22,760
they literally could just call and Org well, I guess

2003
01:31:22,760 --> 01:31:26,960
and ors is andws last name right, so they could

2004
01:31:27,039 --> 01:31:31,880
call it so and they say, yeah, again, I'm fine.

2005
01:31:33,479 --> 01:31:35,520
I don't care the agent a little bit, but I

2006
01:31:35,520 --> 01:31:37,359
don't even just do like one on American Summer. But

2007
01:31:37,720 --> 01:31:41,239
i'dink completely down if he hears the legends about his father.

2008
01:31:41,800 --> 01:31:44,640
You know, Bigs was kind of a you know, she

2009
01:31:44,760 --> 01:31:46,760
was a spy helping at one point. Like I would

2010
01:31:46,800 --> 01:31:49,600
be completely down. I know, it's classic Star Wars, like oh,

2011
01:31:49,600 --> 01:31:52,279
everybody's someone's son or daughter, but like, I wouldn't care

2012
01:31:52,319 --> 01:31:54,720
if it's like, yeah, the show's set between six and seven.

2013
01:31:55,119 --> 01:31:58,199
It's all about you know, spies again, really Empire, et cetera.

2014
01:31:58,319 --> 01:32:05,319
But no, so, yeah, anything else to say before we

2015
01:32:05,760 --> 01:32:07,159
in this soft here with a rating.

2016
01:32:11,359 --> 01:32:13,239
Speaker 3: What do you got sounds like nothing?

2017
01:32:15,640 --> 01:32:19,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, min quibbles, as we've talked about, you know, Mario Biggs.

2018
01:32:19,560 --> 01:32:21,840
But like, this stuff is so good, I can't go

2019
01:32:21,880 --> 01:32:24,920
anywhere else. It's it's a ten and ten sometimes feels

2020
01:32:25,079 --> 01:32:26,960
a little most because that stuff that is just so

2021
01:32:27,119 --> 01:32:30,079
damn good is some of the best ever, you know,

2022
01:32:30,359 --> 01:32:34,640
Star Wars, sci fi stuff. Yeah, and I'm very excited

2023
01:32:34,640 --> 01:32:37,439
to go watch this all together now. I am gonna

2024
01:32:37,439 --> 01:32:39,159
be watching Rogue one this week heaven in a while,

2025
01:32:39,159 --> 01:32:40,960
but I'm going to finish off the story here. But

2026
01:32:41,159 --> 01:32:45,239
uh yeah, ten out of ten. Uh, this will the

2027
01:32:45,239 --> 01:32:48,399
show will be greatly missed. And I hope we can

2028
01:32:48,399 --> 01:32:51,560
get something in the future similar, but if not, we

2029
01:32:51,640 --> 01:32:54,039
got this and this is the this is the peak.

2030
01:32:54,079 --> 01:32:55,079
And I don't know, I don't know. Like I said

2031
01:32:55,159 --> 01:32:58,199
right now, I'm gonna say one Empire, one band or

2032
01:32:58,279 --> 01:32:59,520
I need to sit on it for a while because

2033
01:32:59,520 --> 01:33:02,560
Empire has been in my life, my entire life. But

2034
01:33:02,640 --> 01:33:04,560
it's that level where it's like, man, I've at least

2035
01:33:04,560 --> 01:33:06,239
given something on one B because like I really like

2036
01:33:06,279 --> 01:33:08,800
Forced Wakens, I really like New Hope. There's other stuff,

2037
01:33:08,840 --> 01:33:11,720
but there's never been anything that's challenged that number one spot,

2038
01:33:11,760 --> 01:33:13,880
but this is the first time and that's saying something,

2039
01:33:13,880 --> 01:33:14,800
so yeah, ten for me.

2040
01:33:16,840 --> 01:33:19,239
Speaker 2: I'm right there with you. Yeah, this is uh, this

2041
01:33:19,359 --> 01:33:23,159
is peak. And I truly hope we get a Star

2042
01:33:23,239 --> 01:33:26,560
Wars content piece, whether it's TV show or movie, to

2043
01:33:27,279 --> 01:33:30,880
just this caliber. It's it's it's it's refreshing to just

2044
01:33:30,920 --> 01:33:33,039
be able to be like, yeah, Star Wars can do it.

2045
01:33:33,159 --> 01:33:36,880
We you know, we we can get that mature content

2046
01:33:36,960 --> 01:33:39,640
that is like, it's not just mature, it's just excellent

2047
01:33:39,680 --> 01:33:42,520
story writing. And yes, this is the best Star Wars

2048
01:33:42,560 --> 01:33:44,159
show I've ever seen, but it's also just one of

2049
01:33:44,199 --> 01:33:48,399
the best shows I've ever seen. And yeah, yeah, I'm

2050
01:33:48,439 --> 01:33:52,560
just so impressed. Really really minor like cons that would

2051
01:33:52,840 --> 01:33:56,960
not bring it down by any means. And yeah, no,

2052
01:33:57,079 --> 01:33:59,920
I I'm excited to just rewatch this as as a

2053
01:34:00,000 --> 01:34:03,279
as a whole now and lead into uh Rogue. I'll watch

2054
01:34:03,319 --> 01:34:05,840
Rogue one before I rewatch the whole show, just because

2055
01:34:06,279 --> 01:34:08,319
you know, it's been a while. But yeah, and I'm

2056
01:34:08,359 --> 01:34:12,680
also just curious to see Cassian in Rogue one versus

2057
01:34:12,680 --> 01:34:14,479
like seeing him here, just because it's been a lot

2058
01:34:14,479 --> 01:34:17,359
of time, Like you know, in the real world just

2059
01:34:17,800 --> 01:34:21,399
how those two characters kind of feel differently. But yeah,

2060
01:34:22,319 --> 01:34:23,039
this has been good.

2061
01:34:25,279 --> 01:34:30,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is a it's a treat, It really really is,

2062
01:34:30,319 --> 01:34:32,159
because you're not getting any kind of Star Wars like this.

2063
01:34:32,359 --> 01:34:36,279
Speaker 3: In other Star Wars, I feel like every other.

2064
01:34:36,279 --> 01:34:40,720
Speaker 4: Piece of content we've gotten has some implementation of Jedi

2065
01:34:41,039 --> 01:34:43,600
or the Force or anything like that. And and here,

2066
01:34:43,760 --> 01:34:47,600
like you get little subtleties when you're introduced to certain

2067
01:34:47,600 --> 01:34:52,199
familiar things like planets and maybe names and whatnot that

2068
01:34:52,239 --> 01:34:54,359
are connected to that larger world that you can kind

2069
01:34:54,399 --> 01:34:55,680
of you can clue.

2070
01:34:55,399 --> 01:34:56,840
Speaker 3: In with and and such.

2071
01:34:56,880 --> 01:34:58,640
Speaker 4: But I think that it's just such a great job

2072
01:34:58,640 --> 01:35:01,159
at being its own thing, and just the writing is

2073
01:35:01,279 --> 01:35:05,439
so so good, and they spend time doing things. Albeit yes,

2074
01:35:05,479 --> 01:35:07,199
there are a couple of things that were rushed a

2075
01:35:07,239 --> 01:35:08,720
little bit, but it's not the end of the world.

2076
01:35:08,760 --> 01:35:11,680
It's not negatively impacting the show at least for me

2077
01:35:12,199 --> 01:35:15,039
in any means. But I think that it just really

2078
01:35:15,079 --> 01:35:20,239
puts things down on a very real, real scale of

2079
01:35:22,039 --> 01:35:24,199
just what this galaxy is going through here. And this

2080
01:35:24,239 --> 01:35:25,920
is something you don't get to see later on, Like

2081
01:35:25,920 --> 01:35:27,640
the political side of Star Wars.

2082
01:35:27,359 --> 01:35:30,520
Speaker 3: Really exists in.

2083
01:35:29,880 --> 01:35:32,359
Speaker 4: The prequel era and then in the Dark Times and

2084
01:35:32,600 --> 01:35:34,239
outside of that, you don't really get much.

2085
01:35:34,279 --> 01:35:34,640
Speaker 3: You don't.

2086
01:35:34,880 --> 01:35:37,159
Speaker 4: They haven't tackled enough of the higher Public era, which

2087
01:35:37,199 --> 01:35:40,399
is a shame that they don't write some better shit

2088
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in that era politically, like with the Old Republic and whatnot.

2089
01:35:44,600 --> 01:35:48,319
You don't get any political stuff post episode six, aside

2090
01:35:48,319 --> 01:35:50,439
from a little bit in Ahsoka, but not enough. I'd

2091
01:35:50,439 --> 01:35:51,520
like to see a little bit more of that and

2092
01:35:51,560 --> 01:35:53,159
a little bit of Mando when you go to course

2093
01:35:53,199 --> 01:35:55,399
on they're doing that stuff with like former imperials. That's

2094
01:35:55,399 --> 01:35:57,000
the kind of stuff like you were talking about, Trus.

2095
01:35:57,039 --> 01:35:58,239
I'd like to see a little bit more of that

2096
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and get some more cover.

2097
01:36:00,279 --> 01:36:00,479
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2098
01:36:00,520 --> 01:36:02,039
Speaker 4: Sure, show us like the fallout of some of these

2099
01:36:02,119 --> 01:36:03,960
characters that were introduced to end or if they've grown

2100
01:36:04,039 --> 01:36:07,239
up or like other people like Dedra, and see the

2101
01:36:07,279 --> 01:36:08,640
fallout of that for them in the future.

2102
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Speaker 3: That'd be kind of cool.

2103
01:36:09,479 --> 01:36:13,079
Speaker 4: But this this show does a great job at showing

2104
01:36:13,199 --> 01:36:18,079
us the espionage and the lemmas of this living in

2105
01:36:18,119 --> 01:36:23,520
this galaxy where it's not an illegal take over. Like

2106
01:36:23,560 --> 01:36:27,239
everything Palpatine did was legal. It was just very very

2107
01:36:27,920 --> 01:36:31,159
shady how he went about it and the means to

2108
01:36:31,640 --> 01:36:35,640
put himself in more powerful positions by controlling both sides

2109
01:36:35,680 --> 01:36:38,520
and getting to this point now with the Empires in control.

2110
01:36:39,079 --> 01:36:42,239
And yeah, I think that's why there's just there's so

2111
01:36:42,359 --> 01:36:45,319
much there's so much stuff that you can keep revisiting here,

2112
01:36:45,319 --> 01:36:48,520
and you can keep speaking to and exploring new narratives

2113
01:36:48,560 --> 01:36:50,520
while it is always yet the dark times. They keep

2114
01:36:50,520 --> 01:36:52,880
tackling the video games, tackle the dark times, and the

2115
01:36:52,920 --> 01:36:56,359
shows and the movies and whatnot. Like you said, Kirkle,

2116
01:36:56,399 --> 01:36:58,239
and I think this definitely puts a whole new, fresh

2117
01:36:58,479 --> 01:37:00,800
code of paint on it for this era. And I

2118
01:37:00,800 --> 01:37:02,479
think that they did a really really good job on

2119
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telling a story that has been told many times before,

2120
01:37:06,399 --> 01:37:09,159
but just a different character, a different perspective. It was

2121
01:37:09,199 --> 01:37:12,600
done very very well. And yeah, it for me, it

2122
01:37:12,640 --> 01:37:16,880
boosts Rogue one up. I finished watching this arc and

2123
01:37:16,920 --> 01:37:18,520
I thought, Matt, I just got to put Rogue one on.

2124
01:37:18,600 --> 01:37:20,880
I'm so excited to watch one of my favorite Star

2125
01:37:20,880 --> 01:37:22,920
Wars movies and just see that it's going from like

2126
01:37:22,960 --> 01:37:24,760
a ten out of ten to even higher than a

2127
01:37:24,800 --> 01:37:26,960
ten out of ten because we've got so much backstory

2128
01:37:27,000 --> 01:37:29,960
and weight behind what's going on now, which is awesome.

2129
01:37:30,720 --> 01:37:33,680
And I guess in closing, for me, this is this

2130
01:37:33,760 --> 01:37:35,720
whole season two is a ten out of ten. But

2131
01:37:36,079 --> 01:37:40,560
the fact that when the credits hit and we at

2132
01:37:40,600 --> 01:37:43,079
the second portion of the credits were rolling and we

2133
01:37:43,119 --> 01:37:45,239
got that original Star Wars theme that kicked in, like

2134
01:37:45,640 --> 01:37:46,880
the credits are rolling, and I was just I was

2135
01:37:46,880 --> 01:37:48,239
putting my drink away in the kitchen. I was like,

2136
01:37:48,239 --> 01:37:50,680
holy shit, I don't think I've heard that theme on

2137
01:37:50,800 --> 01:37:53,319
any new Star Wars projects that Disney has done. It's

2138
01:37:53,319 --> 01:37:55,239
been a very very long time, and it just it

2139
01:37:55,279 --> 01:37:58,279
brought me right back. Just I was really really excited

2140
01:37:58,319 --> 01:38:03,000
hearing that. I thought, man, I just let's get some good,

2141
01:38:03,199 --> 01:38:08,560
more goddamn Star Wars like this. And I mean, we

2142
01:38:08,880 --> 01:38:10,960
joke about it, we mean about it a lot. But

2143
01:38:11,319 --> 01:38:14,520
I do think the fact that you guys have mentioned, like, Okay, Filoni,

2144
01:38:14,560 --> 01:38:16,640
he does not like this is not Star Wars to him,

2145
01:38:16,880 --> 01:38:18,920
that does suck. And I would love to get more

2146
01:38:18,960 --> 01:38:20,520
Star Wars that is like this. And I think that

2147
01:38:20,600 --> 01:38:23,399
there is a world that exists where we can have

2148
01:38:23,479 --> 01:38:25,319
this kind of Star Wars story tell like that is

2149
01:38:25,399 --> 01:38:28,159
dark and gritty, and combine it with the Star Wars

2150
01:38:28,159 --> 01:38:30,600
that you know Filoni wants to put out there too.

2151
01:38:30,760 --> 01:38:34,079
I'm sure like with you know, Jedies and Sis and whatnot.

2152
01:38:34,119 --> 01:38:36,039
Speaker 3: Also shout outs to the.

2153
01:38:35,960 --> 01:38:39,880
Speaker 4: Artifact in Lutheran's gallery. There was that tablet that was

2154
01:38:39,920 --> 01:38:44,520
shutting out the father, the son, the daughter, the Mortis Gods.

2155
01:38:44,560 --> 01:38:46,520
Speaker 3: I don't know if you caught that, Travis.

2156
01:38:47,199 --> 01:38:49,239
Speaker 1: It's like going to move the Mortis stuff from my.

2157
01:38:49,399 --> 01:38:50,159
Speaker 2: I also missed that.

2158
01:38:50,520 --> 01:38:53,199
Speaker 4: I also missed that is the stone for those of

2159
01:38:53,239 --> 01:38:55,279
you who are where the stone was in there, and

2160
01:38:55,359 --> 01:38:58,079
it shows like the different hand gestures that the they

2161
01:38:58,119 --> 01:39:01,279
did in Star Wars Rebels to open up the access

2162
01:39:01,359 --> 01:39:02,960
point into the world between worlds.

2163
01:39:05,079 --> 01:39:08,800
Speaker 2: Yeah you remember, Travis.

2164
01:39:09,960 --> 01:39:12,159
Speaker 1: I remember, just forgot about it.

2165
01:39:12,319 --> 01:39:13,760
Speaker 3: Go watch a Soca Kirkland.

2166
01:39:13,800 --> 01:39:19,399
Speaker 1: My goodness, ladies, gentlemen. That is it. We're closing the

2167
01:39:19,479 --> 01:39:23,920
chapter the book The Island on Cassie Nander. You can

2168
01:39:23,920 --> 01:39:26,600
go back listen to all our reviews. Next stars. So

2169
01:39:26,680 --> 01:39:28,720
I'm not sure when it will be because I honestly

2170
01:39:28,760 --> 01:39:31,159
got Ironhart come up for Disney Plus shows. I don't

2171
01:39:31,159 --> 01:39:33,119
know what. I know they're filming ah Soka, but I

2172
01:39:33,159 --> 01:39:34,760
don't even know if that's gonna be up for Manlor

2173
01:39:34,880 --> 01:39:37,439
and Grogu, So there's a chance other than if it's

2174
01:39:37,439 --> 01:39:40,920
something animated related live action wise, we will be talking

2175
01:39:40,960 --> 01:39:44,199
about Manuel or Mandalorian Grogu in about a year from now.

2176
01:39:44,079 --> 01:39:49,239
Speaker 3: And Stars Visions maybe action live action only.

2177
01:39:49,399 --> 01:39:51,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, my fingers crossed. We can have some good times,

2178
01:39:51,880 --> 01:39:53,039
but I don't know if we have as good as

2179
01:39:53,039 --> 01:39:56,359
time as this. Promise you won't be boring when you

2180
01:39:56,399 --> 01:39:58,239
hear for the next down Stars, and may the Force

2181
01:39:58,319 --> 01:39:58,800
be with you.

2182
01:39:59,720 --> 01:39:59,880
Speaker 2: Oh