Speaker 1: Hell. Everybody to the facilities of the iHeartMedia Megaplexus is
Speaker 1: Dick Gabriel. This is the holiday edition of the state
Speaker 1: Wide Big Booon Side. He heard Mark Pope's comments, you
Speaker 1: saw the Wildcats kind of go down in flames right
Speaker 1: before Christmas. So we're here to sift through it tonight
Speaker 1: and talk some football because the playoffs have everybody upset.
Speaker 1: Welcome back and talk with Billy rutligs, Aaron Gershan, Jefpiicorral
Speaker 1: in the state wide BBI Border to Border. It is
Speaker 1: the Big boon Sider, Dick Gabriel, Billy Rutledge, Aaron Gershewan.
Speaker 1: I hope everybody's having a good holiday a week some
Speaker 1: of you still had to work today, but it's a
Speaker 1: good time of year. A lot of football, there's a
Speaker 1: lot of basketball, there's a lot of crossover. We're going
Speaker 1: to talk about basketball in the first half hour. Jepeicorrel
Speaker 1: joins us. At the bottom of the hour, we'll talk about,
Speaker 1: of course, the playoffs. And Jeff grew up an Iowa
Speaker 1: State fan, because we've talked about him before. His dad
Speaker 1: went to school there, played baseball there, so we don't
Speaker 1: blame him for room for the buck Eyes and the
Speaker 1: Tennessee Balls he hated so much, went down in flames,
Speaker 1: but perfect storm for him. Aaron gershwin alongside along with
Speaker 1: Billy Rolaseron and I of course across Pass up in
Speaker 1: New York City. We knew we would. Madisonsquare Garden. That's
Speaker 1: gotta be fun for you. Yeah, to go home, see
Speaker 1: the fam take whatever train you take into the city,
Speaker 1: and Long Island Railroad, I.
Speaker 2: Guess, yeah, Metro North from Connecticut. Yeah, it doesn't get
Speaker 2: much better. I mean, this is my second game covering.
Speaker 2: Neither have been kind to Kentucky, but I had a
Speaker 2: great time of both. I'm trying to remember the first
Speaker 2: UCLA two years ago. Oh yeah, that was ugly. Both
Speaker 2: of them were ugly, but that one was even uglier.
Speaker 1: So this was weird. There was There was that one
Speaker 1: stretch where Ohio State just basically couldn't miss ye and
Speaker 1: Kentucky couldn't hit Nope. And that's separated the two teams
Speaker 1: by at least ten points. And it stayed that way.
Speaker 2: It did that, I mean Kentucky did go on a
Speaker 2: run there or in the second half. I think Ohio
Speaker 2: State got it all either all the way to fifteen
Speaker 2: or to thirteen, and Kentucky cut it to six and
Speaker 2: I was like, okay, here they come again, the comeback Cats.
Speaker 2: And then I think it was a pass to Brandon
Speaker 2: Garrison that he dropped down underneath the basket. It might
Speaker 2: have been Jackson Robinson. I forgot who dropped it. And
Speaker 2: if they had just converted a lay up there it's
Speaker 2: a four point game and you're like, okay, like here
Speaker 2: it comes. And then after that play kind of blew up.
Speaker 2: Ohio State went on another run. I think it was
Speaker 2: like an eight to two run, pushed the lead back
Speaker 2: to double digits and that was it. That was it
Speaker 2: for Kentucky.
Speaker 1: And prior to that play, yeah, did you think Kentucky
Speaker 1: could complete the cut?
Speaker 2: I thought they were going to just because they've done it, Ben,
Speaker 2: They're done that. And honestly, and give Ohio State a
Speaker 2: ton of credit. They played a great game. And you know,
Speaker 2: Bruce Thornton Junior was fantastic. That Mobley kid didn't even
Speaker 2: shoot well coming into the game. Was a fifty three
Speaker 2: percent three shooter on fifty six attempts, So you know
Speaker 2: they have some nice players. Aaron Broadshaw played a great game,
Speaker 2: but picked a good time, didn't Yeah. With all that said,
Speaker 2: Kentucky came back and beat two teams that are much
Speaker 2: better than Ohio State and Duke and Gonzaga. So I thought,
Speaker 2: you know, you got it to six, there's still fourteen
Speaker 2: minutes left in the game. Here it comes. But it
Speaker 2: did not come.
Speaker 1: You know, it's funny you said that because I don't
Speaker 1: know why, and I hate to be you know, Debbie Downer,
Speaker 1: but I was so skeptical. Yeah. Maybe if I were
Speaker 1: watching on TV, I would have felt different, But watching
Speaker 1: it and I can't well, I think you were sitting
Speaker 1: in the same section I will yep. We were amazingly
Speaker 1: close to.
Speaker 2: The Oh it's amazing Tom leach and and Jack Gibbons
Speaker 2: rubbing the boonies.
Speaker 1: Sorry guys, but anyhow, it just didn't feel to me.
Speaker 1: Even though the fans were trying their hard, God they
Speaker 1: did to pull them back into it, it just didn't
Speaker 1: feel like they could get the stops. They didn't have
Speaker 1: have the right plan to stop Ohio State and score consistently. Billy,
Speaker 1: you were one year on the radio, one ear on
Speaker 1: the TV, yeah, or one eye on the TV. Did
Speaker 1: you think they complete the comeback? No?
Speaker 3: And not because I'm not optimistic, and it's not because
Speaker 3: I haven't seen it before, which they've done it. It is
Speaker 3: just I mean, they went on like an eight or
Speaker 3: nine minute drought of no field goals at the end
Speaker 3: of the first half, and you and you go into
Speaker 3: halftime with no momentum, and it's just it felt a
Speaker 3: little different. It felt like guys were standing around. It
Speaker 3: felt like Ohio State. It dictated the pace and that
Speaker 3: was Yep, that's something that's an achilles heel for this
Speaker 3: team for sure. You know, you know this is something
Speaker 3: to build on. Obviously, Mark Pope will point to this
Speaker 3: game several times throughout the year that I'm sure, but
Speaker 3: like seven of twenty three on layups is unbelieve.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't remember a stat line quite that bad.
Speaker 3: And then throw on on top of I'm not sure
Speaker 3: if this team is a good three point shooting team.
Speaker 3: They again, there was four twenty two in this game.
Speaker 3: I think that's the worst this year. Yes, as you know,
Speaker 3: people have said Kentucky needs a guy to get a
Speaker 3: basket at the end of the game. I've always said
Speaker 3: it seems like the system is that guy this year.
Speaker 3: Whoever's open take that shot and be confident. But right now,
Speaker 3: Kentucky I don't know. I don't know if they have
Speaker 3: the confidence of a good three point shooting team right now.
Speaker 1: I tell you what somebody asked, is this a blueprint?
Speaker 1: And you always ask that after a loss. Early in
Speaker 1: the year, we saw what at least part of the
Speaker 1: blueprint is if you can, you know, imagine the opposing coach,
Speaker 1: game planning, whiteboard, whatever, run them off the three point line.
Speaker 1: I think Kentucky is a good three point shooting team
Speaker 1: when the shots you're there, but you can say that
Speaker 1: about a lot of say they're a volume shooting team.
Speaker 1: That's the key. And it was clear that Ohio State
Speaker 1: was willing to challenge Kentucky in the paint where it
Speaker 1: was outscored by a million. Yeah, but Ohio was extending.
Speaker 1: Everybody was in their grill two steps beyond the three
Speaker 1: point line. And therefore Kentucky wasn't getting many clean looks.
Speaker 2: No, they weren't, and I think there might there were
Speaker 2: some they passed up. Though again that's a that's a
Speaker 2: concerning trend I've noticed, is they Andrew Carr specifically. I'm
Speaker 2: not trying to call anyone out, but he's a guy
Speaker 2: who's a thirty seven percent three point shooter. Last year,
Speaker 2: he was a forty percent three point shooter in his
Speaker 2: second year at Delaware that they made the NCAA tournament.
Speaker 2: There are several times where he is instead of taking
Speaker 2: a wide open shot, pump faked or passed it away,
Speaker 2: and it's like, dude, you're a good three point shooter,
Speaker 2: just just shoot it. And Mark Pope talked a little
Speaker 2: bit about that tonight on his radio show that they've
Speaker 2: been working on getting him more aggressive. So yes, I
Speaker 2: agree with that, but to me, yeah, the offense was terrible.
Speaker 2: It was an off night. I think I'm with Billy.
Speaker 2: I want to see if this team's really an elite
Speaker 2: three point shooting team or if it's or like you said,
Speaker 2: it's a volume shooting three point team. To me, the
Speaker 2: defense in this game, they o hoop State didn't do
Speaker 2: anything particularly special. They put Thornton Junior behind ball screens
Speaker 2: and their bigs just cleared up way too much space
Speaker 2: and like a million and he score ended up scoring
Speaker 2: thirty points because he also had fourteen free throws. Just
Speaker 2: that's something that's concerning the perimeter, our interior defense all
Speaker 2: year long has been a little shaky. They haven't quite
Speaker 2: I don't think they've gotten that three time Conference Player
Speaker 2: of the Year level of defense from Amari Williams. I
Speaker 2: think Brendan Garrison they knew coming in was a work
Speaker 2: in progress in that end. So they have some things
Speaker 2: to shure up. And you know, one thing I think
Speaker 2: this roster is lacking is just the guy off the bench.
Speaker 2: They have that shooter off the bench in Kobe Brea.
Speaker 2: They don't have that guy on the debt bench that
Speaker 2: they can be like, all right, we need you to
Speaker 2: go get us a stop. Yeah, he's not a great defender.
Speaker 2: He is a great energy guy. He has awesome energy.
Speaker 2: They they were lethargic, so they missed that. But I'm
Speaker 2: not sure they like they don't have that lead defender
Speaker 2: they can be like, all right, man.
Speaker 1: How many teams do though have an elite defender on
Speaker 1: the bench?
Speaker 2: Yees, not that many that that is generally the case.
Speaker 2: They only really have two elite defenders on the whole
Speaker 2: roster take Away and La But Williams allegedly it hasn't
Speaker 2: happened yet exactly.
Speaker 1: He did it in the CIA.
Speaker 2: Yeah, death is a real problem.
Speaker 3: I mean Aley almanor seems he can't really stay on
Speaker 3: the floor for very long. Defense Colin Chandler, Travis Perry,
Speaker 3: these guys don't seem ready no yet.
Speaker 1: Made a nice steal he did.
Speaker 2: I thought after he made that, I was like, Oh,
Speaker 2: that's a play you can actually turn into some momentum.
Speaker 2: And then they came and turned it over.
Speaker 3: But their their liabilities on defense. A lot of times
Speaker 3: Lamont Butler scores thirty three and then I think they
Speaker 3: played him defensively maybe a little bit down.
Speaker 2: Hey, his his man was their leading scorer. I think
Speaker 2: he only scored like royal and he only scored like four.
Speaker 3: Points to stay on the floor. I mean he's getting
Speaker 3: foul trouble.
Speaker 1: That's a problem often exactly.
Speaker 3: And with Kerkkrisa not available, you're shifting Robinson to the
Speaker 3: point Travis Perry gets brought in. I expect Pope to
Speaker 3: tighten the rotation.
Speaker 1: Has to. And who was that talking to about that
Speaker 1: or maybe David Sisk from Cats Illustrated tweeted that at
Speaker 1: halftime he said he felt like the broader substitution pattern
Speaker 1: and I hate that word pattern, you know, tendency. He
Speaker 1: said he thought it negatively affected the flow for Kentucky.
Speaker 1: So and it's early. I mean, Pope still trying to
Speaker 1: figure out who to put in win. But you know,
Speaker 1: if you put a guy in and you're supposed to
Speaker 1: get X y Z out of him and you don't
Speaker 1: get it, now, what do you do? Right? So it's
Speaker 1: it's a work in progress, like every team in America.
Speaker 1: And as you said, Aaron, on their resume, are two
Speaker 1: impressive comeback wins.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And it's one thing I said to somebody after the
Speaker 1: up there in the garden, I said, Mark Pope and
Speaker 1: his staff will make good use of this video. They
Speaker 1: will you talk about teaching no question, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, at the end of the day, it's a quad
Speaker 2: one loss. It's not the end of the world. It's
Speaker 2: all about how you respond. And the problem is, you
Speaker 2: know you're gonna be stewing in it for a while.
Speaker 2: They don't play again till New Year's Eve, and then
Speaker 2: they don't play our real team. Againtil Florida for being honest,
Speaker 2: but this league is unforgiving. The biggest thing I'm concerned
Speaker 2: about all everything we set aside is these slow starts.
Speaker 2: And it's not just in losses. It's happened in wins. Obviously,
Speaker 2: we just talked about how they had to come back
Speaker 2: from sixteen down to be Gonzaga, came back from nine
Speaker 2: down to be Duke Colgate. They let they start the
Speaker 2: game on a seventeen old run and then Colgate two,
Speaker 2: and then they trailed early in the second half, Clemson
Speaker 2: the first. If they don't have that bad first half,
Speaker 2: I think they win that game because they started the
Speaker 2: second half on fire, took the lead, but the you know,
Speaker 2: they couldn't get that gap they needed, so that that's
Speaker 2: something that has to get cleaned up.
Speaker 1: They can't.
Speaker 2: The SEC is I mean, this might be the best
Speaker 2: single year basketball conference there is. They will lose more
Speaker 2: games than they win if they start like this in
Speaker 2: the SEC.
Speaker 3: But like going five hundred in the SEC is not
Speaker 3: a bad thing. Like people are for this team, No, no,
Speaker 3: not for it. I think people are going to freak
Speaker 3: out when they see how.
Speaker 1: Many told me. Hoops Weis told me he thinks the
Speaker 1: SEC champion regular season could lose as many a six game.
Speaker 2: I agree, no question. Just look at it's it's insane.
Speaker 2: The worst record in the SEC is nine and three
Speaker 2: South Carolina and they just beat the same Clemson team, suspect.
Speaker 1: Sure, how about protecting home court? I mean, whoever does that?
Speaker 1: The best may win the conference?
Speaker 2: Yeah right, yeah, And you know that's one thing Kentucky
Speaker 2: has done really well so far. But they haven't really.
Speaker 2: Louisville is a good team, but not a great team.
Speaker 2: They haven't played a Marquiere's.
Speaker 1: The other thing I keep reminding myself this is a
Speaker 1: collection and again people's American excuses. No, this is a
Speaker 1: collection of guys, and yeah, they've been together for a while,
Speaker 1: but they're playing under fire. Now. How many games have
Speaker 1: they played?
Speaker 2: That was game eleven?
Speaker 1: How many tough games?
Speaker 2: Of twelve? That was game twelve? They played four tough games.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so they're still trying to figure out this Mark
Speaker 1: Pope way of doing things. They've never played this style
Speaker 1: with the exception of Jackson Robinson, and Pope has talked
Speaker 1: about it. Robin. They turned to him and say, you know,
Speaker 1: what are we supposed to be doing here? That kind
Speaker 1: of thing. They're smart, they're older, they're mature, they can
Speaker 1: think on their own. They don't have to watch the
Speaker 1: coach like the previous guy in charge here because he
Speaker 1: has so many true freshmen. But they still have to
Speaker 1: figure out how to play together within this style of
Speaker 1: offense and it's different, you know. So I can see
Speaker 1: they'll stumble a few more times, yep. But will they
Speaker 1: be ready in March?
Speaker 3: Well, I think if you look at the non conference
Speaker 3: as a whole, I mean, if they you beat Brown,
Speaker 3: you're eleven and.
Speaker 1: Two in non conference play.
Speaker 3: You take that ten times out of ten when Pulp
Speaker 3: gets hired, right, I mean you've just squabbling a roster together.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I think the start to and who you
Speaker 2: beat raised the expectations. Look, they were ranking number twenty
Speaker 2: three going to the year, and I would argue they
Speaker 2: didn't even deserve that just because they hadn't played together.
Speaker 2: I think the brand got them in those rankings, and
Speaker 2: they went out and proved it, and they moved up
Speaker 2: into the top five, and they played worthy of it,
Speaker 2: And now, you know, I think it's kind of just
Speaker 2: kind of going back to what the expectations really were,
Speaker 2: which is this is a team that should be middle
Speaker 2: of the pack to top half of the SEC and
Speaker 2: be a seven to six seed in the tournament.
Speaker 1: And see what happened. I thought over I thought the
Speaker 1: fourth was over ranked. I really thought they were over.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, but there's also just not there aren't because
Speaker 2: there are a lot of good teams in college basketball
Speaker 2: and not a great a lot of great ones this year,
Speaker 2: you know, a lot of people.
Speaker 1: Speak up on each other no one, yeah.
Speaker 2: Right, really losing his mind. And arguably Tennessee's rosters arguably
Speaker 2: not as good as last year. And they're number one
Speaker 2: and undefeated.
Speaker 1: Isn't isn't Hawaii where you going to relax? Supposed to be?
Speaker 3: Not if you're dan early or buying groceries.
Speaker 1: That's right. We'll take a break, come back and talk
Speaker 1: more Kentucky hoops a little bit later on. We're going
Speaker 1: to talk about the college football playoffs and the portal
Speaker 1: as Mark Pope and company had been busy or to
Speaker 1: come here on the state wide BBI from Pikeville too.
Speaker 1: Paduka is a state wide big blue in cider. Dick Gabriel,
Speaker 1: Billy Rutledge, Aaron Gershan, Bottom of the hour, je Pecorl
Speaker 1: joins us. We're talking about Kentucky basketball as we keep
Speaker 1: an eye on my Packers and the New Orleans Saints.
Speaker 1: And by the way, your your giants keep stumbling Number
Speaker 1: one pick? Are they number one?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 1: Now number one all alone.
Speaker 2: Just lose two more and it's ours and you're hoping quarterback, right,
Speaker 2: I guess who would you like? I have to watch
Speaker 2: more of the two. It's going to be their Shadore
Speaker 2: Sanders or A or cam Ward. So I honestly I
Speaker 2: gotta go watch more of them to give you a
Speaker 2: better opinion.
Speaker 3: You're gonna get a little Eli treatment on the Sugar
Speaker 3: Giants situation here thumbs down to the.
Speaker 2: Well, he already said, and he just said in an
Speaker 2: interview that he's his son's made for New York.
Speaker 3: Though, well maybe maybe that's true, made.
Speaker 2: For the Giants or made for It's it's Dean Sanders.
Speaker 2: He's not gonna tell this kid he can't play in
Speaker 2: New York. He was also playing. He was playing catch
Speaker 2: at the Heisman Trophy ceremony with Elik Neighbors in the
Speaker 2: streets of New York.
Speaker 1: He sounds old.
Speaker 2: I have to watch him more. I have to watch
Speaker 2: him more. I just am ready for something to give
Speaker 2: me any.
Speaker 1: Hope and your bucks. That was crushing yesterday.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we stumbled. We controlled our own destiny until we
Speaker 3: lost to Jerry Jones's worst Cowboys team in years. Uh nothing,
Speaker 3: like there's a weird ending. Yeah, Rashad White just couldn't
Speaker 3: hold onto the ball and just kind of taken away
Speaker 3: from him like a little child.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's one of the hardest sitting NFL games I've watched. Said,
Speaker 1: I didn't get to see any of that.
Speaker 2: Vita Vea had a huge hit.
Speaker 3: Vita's just a big boy boy. He is a big boy.
Speaker 3: But bucks, I mean, they went out there in and
Speaker 3: if the Falcons lose to the Washington Commanders on Sunday
Speaker 3: Night football, then that's all they need.
Speaker 1: So they will.
Speaker 3: Let's hope they back into the.
Speaker 1: Falcon Commanders have their Rookie of year quarterback.
Speaker 3: That's true.
Speaker 1: The Falcons have a brand new starter.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what. We just played them. Oh so
Speaker 2: that's a free win for Atlanta.
Speaker 1: How do you pay? How do you get Kirk Cousins
Speaker 1: we see on the Hard Knocks or whatever, it was
Speaker 1: the quarterback, the nicest guy you'll ever meet, and he
Speaker 1: just although I heard some experts talking today we'll get
Speaker 1: back to basketball about how they you know, there were
Speaker 1: people who privately predicted he would fail at Atlanta because
Speaker 1: this skill set doesn't fit that offense.
Speaker 3: Well, they do zero play action pass, which was his strongest.
Speaker 2: You know, he's thirty seven coming off or thirty six
Speaker 2: coming off in the Chilles.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you've got to have play action these a defense.
Speaker 1: But uh, you know, getting it back to the UK.
Speaker 1: That's what the Wildcats had depended on for so long
Speaker 1: as play action. Without it, they haven't been able to
Speaker 1: do much. But as I said, we'll talk football with
Speaker 1: Jeffichorp touchdown Packers, getting back to the basketball Cats. This
Speaker 1: is exam week. This is back when we used to
Speaker 1: hear about what was a camp cal You know, there's
Speaker 1: you might know this, Aaron. There's a certain point once
Speaker 1: exams are over, they can toss the twenty hour rule
Speaker 1: out the window. And I wonder if that's going to
Speaker 1: go out the window when the contracts come in for
Speaker 1: the players anyhow, you know, I want to see what
Speaker 1: kind of advancement this team shows, what kind of improvement
Speaker 1: coming out of the holidays when they can forget about
Speaker 1: those pesky classes and just work on basketball.
Speaker 2: Yeah, look, there's a lot to work on. I think
Speaker 2: there's need some confidence needs to be built back into
Speaker 2: this group after a game like that, and really just
Speaker 2: the fact that they're not hitting that thirty three is
Speaker 2: a game mark or not even really not coming close.
Speaker 2: They just got to get back and hone in on
Speaker 2: some certain things. And the biggest thing to me again though,
Speaker 2: is they got to figure out what's causing them to
Speaker 2: start so slowly. I didn't we didn't really get a
Speaker 2: clear answer. Mark Pope, by the way, for people I know,
Speaker 2: he's very positive. He comes off that way. That dude
Speaker 2: doesn't handle losing well. He was very much deflated, not
Speaker 2: only after the Clemsing game, but this game very short
Speaker 2: with us very much just didn't wanted to get back
Speaker 2: to work, it felt like so. But he's got to
Speaker 2: find a way. He hasn't really had an answer for
Speaker 2: it yet as to why this team struggles out of
Speaker 2: the gates, because it's been outside of the Louisville game,
Speaker 2: it's been a problem for since really even the Georgia
Speaker 2: State game is close, like, it's been a problem for
Speaker 2: almost a month, and they've got to figure that out
Speaker 2: this week. That's to me issue number one, because what
Speaker 2: are the chance is.
Speaker 1: That, to your point, that the slow start can be
Speaker 1: explained by the fact that they are bent on being
Speaker 1: and I'm not second guessing a volume team when it
Speaker 1: comes to three point shooting, when you go out before
Speaker 1: you've really established a flow, you know, you've not looked
Speaker 1: for some easy buckets. You can get inside, you can
Speaker 1: use your size and athletic ability, but your your bombs
Speaker 1: away right away, because to me, that's pine of the
Speaker 1: biggest culprits.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it could be. They do definitely seem more aggressive
Speaker 2: with their threes early in games, and they miss them,
Speaker 2: and maybe that hurts some confidence. But you know, they
Speaker 2: made them early against Louisville and they stayed confident, and
Speaker 2: you know, maybe it's as simple as all right, we
Speaker 2: gotta make it a priority to get a really clean
Speaker 2: look with the first one and make it. But whatever
Speaker 2: it is, maybe that is what it is. It's got
Speaker 2: to get fixed because that they play. It's not like
Speaker 2: they just start SEC play. They have to play Florida,
Speaker 2: who's undefeated. They go to Georgia, who might be the
Speaker 2: most underrated team of the conference, and then they go
Speaker 2: to Mississippi State, who's a rank team that's veteran led.
Speaker 3: Was it the Colgate game where they led seventeen to zero.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then they were trailing early and.
Speaker 3: And then they trailed early in the second half against Colgate.
Speaker 3: So I even if they have a somewhat of a
Speaker 3: good start, it's that first media time out. You know,
Speaker 3: what are you going to do after that? How are
Speaker 3: you going to adjust? So you probably come in kind
Speaker 3: of like a football team with a game plan, not
Speaker 3: that that it's scripted, sure, but you know you're going
Speaker 3: to do this, this and this, and then when you
Speaker 3: get past that point, maybe it changes a little bit,
Speaker 3: and it kind of depends on what the what's happening
Speaker 3: in the game now. I will say the outlier is
Speaker 3: that Duke game or even the Gonzaga game where they've
Speaker 3: trailed big time and then they were able to still
Speaker 3: come back. That showed some poise, that showed some experience
Speaker 3: from graduate transfers being brought together. But maybe there's an
Speaker 3: emphasis on maybe doing something early like three pointers, and
Speaker 3: then when it doesn't work, it kind of hit they
Speaker 3: hit a wall.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: That's how it feels, and look, they got to just
Speaker 2: figure out a better way to make that adjustment quicker.
Speaker 2: When you know the Gonzaga the Duke game, they shot
Speaker 2: the three pretty well overall, but in the last five
Speaker 2: minutes they kind of said it's not going to happen.
Speaker 2: Let's get in the paint and score. Yes, Gonzaga, they didn't.
Speaker 2: They took like seven threes in the second half in
Speaker 2: overtime combined. They need cranked up the defense, and they
Speaker 2: cranked up the defense. They went to the one three
Speaker 2: to one.
Speaker 1: Rotation they tried against Carolina.
Speaker 2: Yeah they did against Uh yeah, yeah, So I'm sorry
Speaker 2: oh Oho State. Yeah they got I was blown away Carolina.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: It was incredible from them, But uh, they got to
Speaker 2: make that adjustment quicker because you go into half down
Speaker 2: fifteen an sec game, you're going to lose nine at
Speaker 2: a ten time.
Speaker 1: Billy, you mentioned the Gonzaga game, and I keep thinking
Speaker 1: I was thinking about that during the second half of
Speaker 1: the Ohio State game, because Jack Gibbons told the story
Speaker 1: on the air and then told me on my show
Speaker 1: as well about how he could hear they were so
Speaker 1: close to the bench when they were really struggling the biggest,
Speaker 1: biggest deficit I think in the second half against against
Speaker 1: Zaga and Jackson Robinson ran by Mark Pope and Pope
Speaker 1: was yelling, we're fine, We're good, We're fine. And you
Speaker 1: may have heard Jack tell that story and I wondered,
Speaker 1: does he see the same thing or what is he
Speaker 1: not seeing? Even though they're down double digits to Ohio State,
Speaker 1: is he thinking about yelling, hey, guys, we're fine, and
Speaker 1: if not, why not? You know what I'm saying. They
Speaker 1: were fine against Gonzaga. Clearly they weren't fine against Ohio State.
Speaker 1: Welcome back and shift the chatter to football Kentucky and
Speaker 1: otherwise here on the state wide edition of the Big
Speaker 1: Boon Siders, stay with us border to border, it is
Speaker 1: the Big Bloon Sider. Dick Gabriel, Billy rudleds Erin Gershan
Speaker 1: join now on the celebrity highline. We keep trying to
Speaker 1: turn him loose for a little while because it was basketball,
Speaker 1: but of course he knows a lot more about football.
Speaker 1: But Jeff Bercorrel, football keeps popping in to the radar.
Speaker 1: And before we talk about the Wildcats, I'm wondering how
Speaker 1: many of these playoff games did you get to watch?
Speaker 1: And I also told Billionaire and that while I was
Speaker 1: in New York killing some time waiting to go to
Speaker 1: Madison Square Garden, I watched a good deal of North
Speaker 1: Dakota State versus South Dakota State. It was a great
Speaker 1: playoff game. But anyway, how many of the D one
Speaker 1: playoff games did you have a chance to check out?
Speaker 4: I love Verry Christmas. Sorry, Dick, I had to just
Speaker 4: pay for my Kiza here a good fellaw.
Speaker 1: I've stalled, stalled, and I stalled. S all right, I
Speaker 1: won't put the audience to the long question again. How
Speaker 1: many playoff games did you watch?
Speaker 4: Yeah? I watched a lot. And you know what, I
Speaker 4: did watch that North Dakota State game that you're talking about,
Speaker 4: went right down to the watch that great. Yes, I
Speaker 4: mean it's it's really good football. I guarantee. Now, I
Speaker 4: don't know if they have the depth to sustain a
Speaker 4: season if they played, but I guarantee they could play
Speaker 4: in the MAC and some of that heck yeah, uh
Speaker 4: they you know, had some really nice players man there.
Speaker 4: It's fun to watch. And they played wide open too.
Speaker 4: They don't you know, they don't. They don't mess around.
Speaker 1: And a lot of their alums who are now in
Speaker 1: the NFL came back and watched that game. They kept
Speaker 1: showing them on camera.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 1: But anyhow, your Buckeyes they won big. They look good.
Speaker 1: I don't know how you feel about Notre Dame, but uh,
Speaker 1: they put us. Really the only team that who lost
Speaker 1: that really was competitive was Clemson. But now everybody wants
Speaker 1: to tear the tear the playoff system down and start over.
Speaker 1: But I think all of those games, you can explain
Speaker 1: every bit of them, don't you. I mean, smut smu
Speaker 1: ain't gonna come up in that kind of weather and play.
Speaker 4: Well, there's just yeah type yeah, oh huge advantage. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I look, if they played ten times, Notre Dame probably
Speaker 4: wins seven or eight, right, easy, yeah, probably, But you
Speaker 4: can't And I know everybody now starts saying who did
Speaker 4: they play? Who did they play? And I know Herbsteek's
Speaker 4: big on that too, and but you can't discount a
Speaker 4: season's worth of of what they've done. And I know
Speaker 4: what's gonna happen now, and I know everybody's gonna have
Speaker 4: this knee jerk reaction. Why should uh, why should for instance,
Speaker 4: Alabama play Clemson in the first game of the year, right,
Speaker 4: Why should they play in these games? If you can
Speaker 4: play Patsy's and you know, and and pad your win
Speaker 4: loss total, why play these big time games during the season.
Speaker 4: And I just disagree with that because to me, as
Speaker 4: a player, Look, you want to play the best and
Speaker 4: beat the best. You know, if you're Alabama, if you're
Speaker 4: a high state, if you're Georgia, you don't want to
Speaker 4: play the the fune Cookman's of the world. I'm not
Speaker 4: knocking those guys, but you really you just don't want
Speaker 4: to play those games. You want to play against, you know,
Speaker 4: the best teams in the country.
Speaker 1: See, Jeff, your argument, Your argument to me is the
Speaker 1: best against what people are saying. If Alabama's losses were
Speaker 1: to you know, if they had a one or two
Speaker 1: losses to the likes of Clemson, whoever, and not to
Speaker 1: have pair of six and six teams, they don't think
Speaker 1: that argument holds up. It's it's not anymore. It shouldn't
Speaker 1: just be about who you beat, it's who did you
Speaker 1: lose to? And that that set Notre Dame back a
Speaker 1: little bit. And it's said Ohio State back as they
Speaker 1: lost to Michigan.
Speaker 4: Yep, yeah, yeah, no, I agree with you, But I'm
Speaker 4: just saying from a player standpoint, I really, look, you
Speaker 4: have to have some breathers, and I understand that, but
Speaker 4: every year in the SEC, somebody's a bad team. Missippi
Speaker 4: State this year is a bad team. That's a breather
Speaker 4: on the schedule. To tell you the truth, Kentucky was
Speaker 4: kind of a breather this year for a lot of teams, right, Yeah,
Speaker 4: it just happens. There's ebbs and flows. The great teams
Speaker 4: are always gonna be great. But Arkansas they're kind of
Speaker 4: like Kentucky. They're up and down and up and down.
Speaker 4: Mississippi State's up and down, up and down. You know,
Speaker 4: Vanderbilt's up and down. They've been on an uptick the
Speaker 4: last two years. Good for them. But you know the
Speaker 4: thing I feel sorry about now is I think Kentucky
Speaker 4: Louisville goes away. Yeah, and that's too bad, Jeff.
Speaker 2: With this playoff format, do you like the true home games?
Speaker 2: Definitely felt like it gave those teams a massive advantage.
Speaker 2: And if so, if you like them, do you think
Speaker 2: they have it? We were talking about this before the show.
Speaker 2: The order of operations correct, where they do the first
Speaker 2: week they have the home games and then they go
Speaker 2: on to neutral sites. Where'd you rather see those teams
Speaker 2: that have by weeks rewarded with also getting a home game?
Speaker 4: You know, it's interesting thing you you say it that way, Aaron,
Speaker 4: It it I think the reason they gave home games
Speaker 4: to those is because and again what's what is everything about?
Speaker 4: It's all about money. Yes, and they knew one hundred
Speaker 4: thousand people were going to be in the Horseshoe, and
Speaker 4: they knew ninety thousand people were going to be at
Speaker 4: Penn State or one hundred thousand. They knew ninety thousand
Speaker 4: was going to be at Notre Dame. That's why those
Speaker 4: were there. I think, in the best of all worlds,
Speaker 4: why not let the Citrus Bowl? Why not let the
Speaker 4: you know, all the bowl games be those games? Does
Speaker 4: that make sense? Or that is that too much to
Speaker 4: to give to this college playoff? Because then you're limiting
Speaker 4: some teams. But again you have a five and sevent
Speaker 4: team that's playing, Yeah, teams that can't play players not
Speaker 4: in the playoffs though, but yes, But what I'm saying
Speaker 4: is you're limiting the Bulls. Now if you go ahead
Speaker 4: and use the Capital One or the whatever it's called now,
Speaker 4: the Citrus Bowl, the out Back Bawl, use those as
Speaker 4: those games. See. But the problem comes back to this, Aaron.
Speaker 4: When I played, and again I'm not saying back in
Speaker 4: the day, but from the start of football, if you
Speaker 4: won the SEC, you were going to the Sugar Bowl.
Speaker 4: So fans of the great teams, fans of Alabama, fans
Speaker 4: is of Georgia, they would buy tickets to the Sugar
Speaker 4: Bowl ahead of time, hoping their teams got there. If
Speaker 4: you're in the Big Ten, you in the Big Ten,
Speaker 4: where are you going? You're going to the Rose Bowl.
Speaker 4: If you were in the what's now the Big twelve
Speaker 4: back then the Southwest, if you went to the Cotton Bowl,
Speaker 4: that's where everybody went, right.
Speaker 1: Conference.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, So I said, yeah, you're right. So you
Speaker 4: know it's you had that Bowl tie in, which you
Speaker 4: just don't have now. And it's really interesting the way
Speaker 4: they do it now. And but again, look they're looking
Speaker 4: for money, and if you have it at a home stadium,
Speaker 4: you know that it's going to sell out. Hey, there
Speaker 4: was a lot of Tennessee fans that made the treck
Speaker 4: to Ohio State. Now I don't know what Tennessee team
Speaker 4: that was, but I sure wish they'd have played Kentucky.
Speaker 4: It would have been a different outcome.
Speaker 1: I say that, you know what, I like the format
Speaker 1: the way it is, Jeff. And here's why, Because I
Speaker 1: think the first the top four teams, and then maybe
Speaker 1: they need to rethink about how they seed it. Get
Speaker 1: the buye. I'm good with that. And Aaron and I
Speaker 1: were talking. Aaron and I were talking. I don't think
Speaker 1: that if you're a top four team, you should get
Speaker 1: both a home game and a by So give them
Speaker 1: a bye, but give the next four the advantage of
Speaker 1: having a home game, you know. And if you're in
Speaker 1: the bottom four, look, you're in the playoff. You got
Speaker 1: a chance. You can't play your way into the playoff,
Speaker 1: but once you're there, you can play her with a
Speaker 1: title game. So I think that rewards that rewards the
Speaker 1: second four, and it rewards the first four.
Speaker 4: You're exactly right, But I have two questions for you guys.
Speaker 4: It's kind of the same question. You wouldn't let Florida
Speaker 4: State in last year because they lost their quarterback right
Speaker 4: undefeated season going in they lost their quarterback, They don't
Speaker 4: go Georgia had two losses, and I guess because they're
Speaker 4: the champion, Yeah, they get an auto.
Speaker 2: Bid, ye, playing it might be better for them anyway. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, here's my second question.
Speaker 1: And by the way, let me interject it. Florida State
Speaker 1: looked terrible without their quarterback. They did win.
Speaker 4: They did anyway, Okay, well that kind of that kind
Speaker 4: of leads me to this. Do you really think Boise
Speaker 4: State is the third best team in the country. Do
Speaker 4: you really think Arizona.
Speaker 1: State that I do not. I don't know about Boise
Speaker 1: haven't seen him play. I think Texas is the third
Speaker 1: best team in the country.
Speaker 4: Probably, Yeah, I just I And you look at the
Speaker 4: way it's seated. And I really thought the Tennessee Ohio
Speaker 4: State game was going to be a lot better.
Speaker 2: Of the day.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I really think so. But what I was getting
Speaker 4: at is, Okay, so Ohio State blows him out, they
Speaker 4: got or Oregon kind of gets screwed out of the
Speaker 4: whole thing. They almost walked to the championship game, right now?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, You're exactly right, Jeff. And to expand
Speaker 3: on some of your comments, I mean, this is a
Speaker 3: made for TV event. This isn't a committee that's doing
Speaker 3: the what's best for college football. It's to get the
Speaker 3: most entertaining matchups. And so here's my question. We're at
Speaker 3: twelve teams. Now, where are we at ten years from now? Jeff?
Speaker 1: Do we go up?
Speaker 2: Are we going down?
Speaker 3: I mean, my only natural thought is we go to sixteen.
Speaker 4: I you know, I don't mind twelve. I wouldn't mind sixteen.
Speaker 4: That means everybody has to play the same amount of games,
Speaker 4: which I'm kind of for I think that especially. You know,
Speaker 4: when you're looking at a what's the difference between Texas
Speaker 4: and Georgia? Those two are so close now right, yeah?
Speaker 4: You know, or an Ohio State and Oregon. I mean
Speaker 4: Ohio State. If the kid gets down one second earlier,
Speaker 4: they kick a field goal, they probably win. But now
Speaker 4: Ohio State has to play an extra game. Those are
Speaker 4: the kind of thing and sob so, I know it's
Speaker 4: rewarding to be the top four, but in the end
Speaker 4: a tournament in basketball there's no buys. Everybody has to
Speaker 4: play same amount of gameses.
Speaker 1: And you know what, you know what there used to
Speaker 1: be football.
Speaker 4: I get it. This is a this is big time football.
Speaker 4: And when you have to play an extra game and
Speaker 4: and you might get banged up or somebody gets hurt,
Speaker 4: you're screwed for the next game. We look at Georgia.
Speaker 1: Does it works in the NFL?
Speaker 4: Well, that's basically what you are. Now. You're saying, everybody,
Speaker 4: you know, so, who do you like everybody.
Speaker 1: So do you like the Buckeyes now?
Speaker 4: Uh, I think that's gonna be an un I mean
Speaker 4: the first game was unbelievable. I don't know if you
Speaker 4: guys saw it, but there was six seconds left and
Speaker 4: uh and the quarterback will takes off running. He gets
Speaker 4: down as it goes to zero. If he gets down
Speaker 4: the step earlier they make the first down, he can
Speaker 4: run up clock it and may kick a field going
Speaker 4: and possibly win the game. I mean, that's how close
Speaker 4: that game was. Here's the other thing. This has been
Speaker 4: what three weeks now since Oregon's played, or since any
Speaker 4: of the number one seeds have played. That's a long time.
Speaker 4: And you you cannot come out slow. I mean, look
Speaker 4: at Tennessee for whatever reason, they just look like you know,
Speaker 4: that first quarter was abysmal and again go ahead good
Speaker 4: And I.
Speaker 1: Was gonna say that that might have been the biggest
Speaker 1: surprise to me, not just how Ohio State beat Tennessee,
Speaker 1: but Aaron and I were talking about this, Uh, Tennessee,
Speaker 1: at least the Tennessee that we saw was one of,
Speaker 1: if not the most physical team in the Southeastern Conference
Speaker 1: and didn't play like that at all Ohio State.
Speaker 4: But what was wrong with the running back, Well, he
Speaker 4: got bad, something.
Speaker 2: Wrong, but it was more on the other side of
Speaker 2: the ball for me, Jeff. I mean, Tennessee defensive line
Speaker 2: has three pros and they just got run over.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and really, guys, that was an incredible almost catch interception.
Speaker 4: How he got us put down I'll never know, but
Speaker 4: that should have been twenty eight to nothing game over
Speaker 4: what nine minutes into the game something like that. Uh,
Speaker 4: that's that's.
Speaker 1: Crazy, Jeff.
Speaker 3: I want to switch you switch gears a little bit
Speaker 3: to the Kentucky football team. There's been a lot of
Speaker 3: news made with the transfer portal quarterbacks receivers from Alabama.
Speaker 3: I mean the quarterback from Texas A and M I
Speaker 3: believe had some play in the past. Has any name
Speaker 3: caught your eye? Do you like the direction that Stoups
Speaker 3: and company are going?
Speaker 4: Well, you've got three new starters on the offensive line
Speaker 4: and possibly a fourth, so you've got some depth there. Now.
Speaker 4: You know, you got the center that you needed, you
Speaker 4: got a guard, and these are guys that are that
Speaker 4: are really good. I mean, you've got an All MAC
Speaker 4: first teamer, You've got a All se Seed player. I mean,
Speaker 4: and this isn't just like they're going and getting guys
Speaker 4: to fill holes. This is almost like Ole Miss the
Speaker 4: running back. I mean, the guy scored twelve touchdowns, right,
Speaker 4: I mean he's a great third down runner. You've got
Speaker 4: a quarterback that can sling the ball. You've got some receivers.
Speaker 4: You got a six foot seven, two and seventy pound
Speaker 4: tight end. You get two edge rudder, two edge rushers
Speaker 4: who are really good and have size. You've got yourself
Speaker 4: a defensive tackle that is kind of like Keishan Silver
Speaker 4: where you don't I don't really think they know what
Speaker 4: they got because he hasn't played a whole lot, but
Speaker 4: he had a lot of promise coming out of high school.
Speaker 4: So yeah, it's it's gonna be real interesting. Guy. I
Speaker 4: think they they to me, they've had home runs. They're supposedly,
Speaker 4: if you count this stuff, a top ten team in
Speaker 4: the transfer portal whatever that's good for.
Speaker 1: Well, Hey you know what Nick min Jones team was
Speaker 1: ranked six last year on the portal. Yeah did pretty well.
Speaker 4: Yeah, look what they did got him to the World Series.
Speaker 4: You know, and let's not stop with football. Look at
Speaker 4: what Skinner has done with the volleyball team.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Really, I meant he got the Big Ten Freshmen of
Speaker 4: the Year, the girl that led the Big ten in kills,
Speaker 4: and a six six middle blocker. Gracious, look at that, right, Yes, Jeffy,
Speaker 4: this portal's crazy.
Speaker 2: With all that said, and I do what I like. Actually,
Speaker 2: probably like most of They got a few guys who
Speaker 2: have been captains before, and we saw leadership was a massive,
Speaker 2: massive problem last year. How do you think they'll go
Speaker 2: about I mean, they're gonna have at least fourteen transfers.
Speaker 2: That's a crazy number. How do you think they go
Speaker 2: about the culture because that clearly there's a miss there
Speaker 2: last year.
Speaker 4: I think the guys have to get in here as
Speaker 4: soon as possible, and understand. I think that's why they
Speaker 4: kind of went after some of these guys that they
Speaker 4: went after, because they've been leaders before. Remember when Will
Speaker 4: Levis got here, he said, I wanted to earn it.
Speaker 4: You have to step in here day one and take it.
Speaker 4: There's no earning. It's you come and you are the guy,
Speaker 4: and you have to be that way. You have to
Speaker 4: play that way, you have to practice that way, you
Speaker 4: have to lift weights that way.
Speaker 1: But you can't they do that.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: You can't force it, though, can you Remember Mike Hardline
Speaker 1: tried a little bit too hard, right, and it wasn't
Speaker 1: until the end of the year that he settled in
Speaker 1: to that role and being a leader, you know, the
Speaker 1: way you have to that you've got to the guys
Speaker 1: have to be wont to be led by you, correct.
Speaker 4: That's right, that's right. Yeah, you can't come in and
Speaker 4: be a jerk. You have to come in and say,
Speaker 4: here's the way. And these guys are almost all these
Speaker 4: guys that come up with winning programs that have made
Speaker 4: Bowl games and stuff. Right, here's the way we did it,
Speaker 4: and here's the way it worked, you know. And because
Speaker 4: from day one, remember we heard so much about Pops
Speaker 4: and the defensive player saying this guy is a leader
Speaker 4: and this is the way, and we followed him. That's
Speaker 4: how these guys have to come in that way. You
Speaker 4: just have to, you know. And again, they're paying these
Speaker 4: guys a lot of money. I mean, I couldn't. I
Speaker 4: don't know what it would be like to be in
Speaker 4: college and have literally thousands of dollars in my pocket.
Speaker 4: That just blows my mind. It's just it's crazy to
Speaker 4: think that the money they're they're giving these these players.
Speaker 3: Well, Jeff, I'll switch gears again to athletes that are
Speaker 3: driving around in porsches. And that's the Kentucky wodcasts. Concerning
Speaker 3: game versus Ohio State, we were talking a lot about
Speaker 3: the slow starts from this team and also the poor
Speaker 3: three point shooting. Is there anything really concerning or do
Speaker 3: you think this is all something that Pope can work out?
Speaker 4: I think you got to say it's concerning, Billy. I mean,
Speaker 4: I mean, they didn't get beat, they got annihilated. I
Speaker 4: mean Ohio State, they're you know, basically their best player
Speaker 4: in Michi, you know, and still were able to do
Speaker 4: whatever they wanted. I think it really shows what Lamont
Speaker 4: Butler means to this team. He's got to stay out
Speaker 4: of foul trouble beyond the court, and I'm talking thirty
Speaker 4: five minutes a game. I don't think they have I
Speaker 4: don't think their bench is what we thought it might be.
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know if Almanor is the answer
Speaker 4: or whatever. But you know, you now, we've seen that
Speaker 4: he's really whittled it down to, you know, about seven guys,
Speaker 4: you know, and the only time he goes any deeper
Speaker 4: is when he's in foul trouble, and yeah, I just
Speaker 4: I don't know. Again, are they going to get better
Speaker 4: as the season goes on? You? I hope so, because
Speaker 4: the're going to learn each other and everything. But this,
Speaker 4: without saying I'm not saying possibly is this is the
Speaker 4: deepest SEC that it has ever been ever in the
Speaker 4: history of the SEC. I mean this, my god, you
Speaker 4: have ten teams in the top twenty ten.
Speaker 1: I think they'll start to melt away a little bit
Speaker 1: for obvious reasons when conference play begins. But all that's
Speaker 1: gonna do is is confirm what we know and that
Speaker 1: this is a brutally tough conference. And the people who
Speaker 1: are rating the SEC and and writing and talking about
Speaker 1: it have watched these teams play and yeah, they're feasting
Speaker 1: on uh some of the have nots, but they're also
Speaker 1: winning a lot of these you know, interregional games against
Speaker 1: really good teams and you know, Kentucky school everybody's schedules,
Speaker 1: Jeff is brutal. But Florida, I think is a surprise
Speaker 1: team at Kentucky starts conference play with Florida, and I
Speaker 1: don't know that anybody expected Georgia to be this good.
Speaker 4: Vanderbilt, I don't know, are they because I don't really
Speaker 4: follow basketball as much as I should, but I is
Speaker 4: Texas A and M that good?
Speaker 1: Well right now the answer is yes, based on wins
Speaker 1: and losses. But you know, we'll see it all, it'll
Speaker 1: all level off. But no, it's I. I there's it's
Speaker 1: the greatest start in the history of the SEC. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I think that the winner of the SEC might have
Speaker 4: four or five conference losses. Oh yeah, I mean Tennessee
Speaker 4: looks really good, but Auburn looks really good.
Speaker 2: Well, I talked, talked, looked really good.
Speaker 1: I talked to Hoops Weiss, the legendary basketball writer. He
Speaker 1: told me he thinks the SEC champion regular season one
Speaker 1: seed in the conference tournament could have as many as
Speaker 1: six conference losses, and he said he believes Auburn could
Speaker 1: or will win the national title. So that tells you
Speaker 1: a lot. Jeff percarel follow him at what is your
Speaker 1: your jefpicaol Just Jeff Picaul right, yeah, and watch for
Speaker 1: him on WTVQ. Thank you, champion, and we'll probably talk
Speaker 1: more football next week and we'll take a break and
Speaker 1: come back. My packers are up seven to nothing on
Speaker 1: the Saints right now, back in a minute. Here on
Speaker 1: the state wide BBI. Thanks again to Jeff piicorrel We
Speaker 1: like I said, we tried to turn Jeff loose because
Speaker 1: he's our football expert. But there's so much football going
Speaker 1: on right now, and let's get back to the playoffs
Speaker 1: real quickly while we have the time. Both of you boys,
Speaker 1: which team that won this week could win again on
Speaker 1: the road in the playoffs?
Speaker 2: On the road, well, there it's neutral size.
Speaker 1: You just I mean, I'm sorry, No, you're good again.
Speaker 1: Not on the road, but against the teams that are
Speaker 1: coming in with.
Speaker 2: Buy I would be close to guarantee the Texas feets.
Speaker 2: They were Arizona State.
Speaker 3: I agree with that, Penn State beating Boise State.
Speaker 2: I don't trust games Franklin. I'm taking the Broncos.
Speaker 3: Yeah, everybody except Ohio State. I trust James Franklin against right.
Speaker 2: They can't beat Michigan either on their normal years and never.
Speaker 1: They just don't win big games. They don't.
Speaker 2: They couldn't win the Big Ten title game. They can't
Speaker 2: win big games. Last week was big, but it was
Speaker 2: not big like you said one hundred and five. They
Speaker 2: practiced it all summer. They have to go into twenty
Speaker 2: degrees in a game that didn't belong in Yeah, damn wow.
Speaker 1: Sorry that's true. Are you telling me you thought Alabama
Speaker 1: should have been in there?
Speaker 4: Now?
Speaker 2: They should have made it, but they weren't good enough
Speaker 2: for it. Given the circumstances, they should have made it,
Speaker 2: but I just don't think they were a playoff.
Speaker 1: CALIBERT gotcha, didn't look like it. That'll do it for now.
Speaker 1: Thanks so much for joining us for Aaron and Billy, Hey,
Speaker 1: have a great Christmas and we'll talk to you next year.
Speaker 1: On the state wide BBI