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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Big Blue Insider. Dick Abriel with you

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<v Speaker 1>on a Tuesday edition of our program, and tonight we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to talk college baseball, football, basketball as usual, also

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<v Speaker 1>some NBA. I know not many of you out there

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<v Speaker 1>are big NBA fans, but my guest, I'm very excited.

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<v Speaker 1>One of my guests tonight is the radio voice of

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<v Speaker 1>the Dallas Mavericks and we had Chuck Cooperstein on the show. Gosh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's been at least at least three or four years,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is before I was doing the show in

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<v Speaker 1>the garage. But I've known Chuck since the early eighties

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<v Speaker 1>when he worked with us on the old Southwest Conference

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<v Speaker 1>radio network. He was a sportscaster on KRLD Radio in Dallas,

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<v Speaker 1>an all news talk station which back then was the

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<v Speaker 1>radio voice of the Dallas Cowboys. The rights have since changed,

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<v Speaker 1>I think a couple of times, but that's what KRLD

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<v Speaker 1>was best known for. And Coop came down from Sportsphone

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<v Speaker 1>in New York City. He's a New York native, and man,

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<v Speaker 1>he's got a great voice, but could talk a mile

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<v Speaker 1>a minute. And some of you may remember this back

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<v Speaker 1>pre internet. Now, if you wanted to get all the scores.

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<v Speaker 1>You could call a number, a nine hundred number, and

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<v Speaker 1>it costs you. And these guys would get on the

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<v Speaker 1>phone and rattle off these scores primarily for betters for gamblers.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you could barely understand them. They were talking

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<v Speaker 1>so fast, and if you missed your score, you had

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<v Speaker 1>to keep listening for them to go through them all

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<v Speaker 1>over again, costing you more money. Well, Coop was one

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<v Speaker 1>of those guys and landed a job at KLD, and

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<v Speaker 1>we you know, you always need more people. I needed

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<v Speaker 1>studio hosts, and because we broadcast all the games for

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<v Speaker 1>all the teams, so we had to have guys doing halftime,

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<v Speaker 1>in pregame, scoreboard drop ins and things like that all

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<v Speaker 1>the time. And I had a couple of guys, but

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<v Speaker 1>I needed one more. So I reached out to the

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<v Speaker 1>new guy at the radio station and Coop came over,

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<v Speaker 1>and long story short, he went to work for us,

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<v Speaker 1>and we've been buddies ever since. Don't talk a whole lot.

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<v Speaker 1>We keep up on Facebook and things like that. But

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<v Speaker 1>he eventually, gosh, it took almost twenty years of him

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<v Speaker 1>and he did ball games. He did college football. After

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<v Speaker 1>I left, he was doing Southwest Conference football Westwood One Radio.

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<v Speaker 1>He had worked games in rupp Arena, Kentucky games for

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<v Speaker 1>Westwood I was a stats guy and you know, just

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<v Speaker 1>hung in there and did a lot of great, solid work,

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<v Speaker 1>and the next thing you know, the job was open,

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<v Speaker 1>and he landed the Dallas Mavericks radio job in twenty

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<v Speaker 1>oh five and he's been their voice ever since. Won

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<v Speaker 1>an NBA Championship ring calling the Mavericks games. But we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna talk today about the Luca Donsige trade for Anthony Davis,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the greatest players in UK history. But we'll

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<v Speaker 1>also talk sec ball in basketball, but Chuck because he

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<v Speaker 1>is a proud Florida Gator, So that's coming up at

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<v Speaker 1>the bottom of this hour. We will also naturally talk

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<v Speaker 1>college baseball with Darren Headrick, the radio voice of the Wildcats,

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<v Speaker 1>because they're going and I have to admit I was

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<v Speaker 1>convinced when I turned that show on the Selections Show

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<v Speaker 1>yesterday that they were not going to get in. And

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<v Speaker 1>I have a hard time remembering a basketball season that

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<v Speaker 1>was similar. I think you may have to go back

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<v Speaker 1>to Joe Bees last year when the Wildcats kind of

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<v Speaker 1>struggled and they were surprise to get in to the

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<v Speaker 1>NCA Tournament and then pulled off a couple of upsets

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<v Speaker 1>beat a good UNLV team, not one of the great teams,

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<v Speaker 1>but a good one, and a really good University of

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<v Speaker 1>Washington team that had two future NBA players on it,

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<v Speaker 1>including Debtliff Shrimp. So the baseball Cats through strength to schedule,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you see and RPI and all that, it's all

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<v Speaker 1>tied together. They get in and we got a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of comments from Nick Menzioni and his players. Coming up

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<v Speaker 1>in our next segment, wild Cats take on West Virginia

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<v Speaker 1>on Friday at noon. You'll see the game on ESPNU,

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<v Speaker 1>but of course you'll hear it right here on six

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<v Speaker 1>thirty WLAP with Darren Hendrick. Pregame eleven forty five, first pitch,

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<v Speaker 1>Cats take on West Virginia, a team that was here

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<v Speaker 1>two years ago in the regional, not last year, but

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<v Speaker 1>coming up shortly now, speaking of West Virginia, saw this

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<v Speaker 1>cross the wire Mary lou Retton, who is a native

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<v Speaker 1>of Fairmont, West Virginia, which happens to be my late

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<v Speaker 1>father's hometown. It's about ten miles south of Morgantown, which

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<v Speaker 1>go to Saratoga, we drive and a couple of times

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<v Speaker 1>we've taken a really slight detour off the interstate I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's seventy nine and gone into Fairmont. And the

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<v Speaker 1>last time we drove to my grandmother's house and looked

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<v Speaker 1>at it and that thing's falling apart. But anyway, Mary

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<v Speaker 1>lou Retton apparently lives there now and was arrested and

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<v Speaker 1>jailed on a misdemeanor charge of DUI. She was arrested

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<v Speaker 1>in Fairmont back on May seventeenth. The report came out

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<v Speaker 1>a person in a Porsche driving erratically, spelled of alcohol,

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<v Speaker 1>slurred her words, failed to field sobriety test, refused a

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<v Speaker 1>hundred dollars personal recognizance bond. No comment from her attorney.

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<v Speaker 1>She was sixteen years old when she became the first

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<v Speaker 1>American female gymnast to win the all around gold at

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<v Speaker 1>the eighty four LA Olympics. Also won two silvers and

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<v Speaker 1>two bronze medals and really made gymnastics something big in

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<v Speaker 1>the US. But remember this. Back in twenty twenty three,

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<v Speaker 1>her family disclosed that Retin was recuperating from a rare

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<v Speaker 1>form of pneumonia and she was in intensive care. Doctors

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<v Speaker 1>found her oxygen levels dangerously low. They were thinking about

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<v Speaker 1>putting her on a ventilator. She was getting worse, but

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<v Speaker 1>went on some kind of oxygen treatment. She was in

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<v Speaker 1>a hospital for a weeks, but she improved well enough

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<v Speaker 1>to be sent home. Well, she's in a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of trouble now, but I was rooted for her, being

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<v Speaker 1>from Fairmount, West Virginia, where I spent parts of several

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<v Speaker 1>summers visiting the grandparents. College Basketball Michigan got some good news.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess it's Yaksel lendeborg As withdrawn from the NBA draft.

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<v Speaker 1>Otaga Away has not done this yet, but this kid has.

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<v Speaker 1>He's going to play for Dusty May and the Wolverines

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<v Speaker 1>next year. That's what he told on three dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>He was ranked a number one player in the transfer portal.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember this is a kid who had a great year

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<v Speaker 1>last year at Alabama Birmingham Defensive Player of the Year

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<v Speaker 1>average nearly eighteen points, eleven and a half rebounds, four assists,

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<v Speaker 1>almost two blocks, and almost two steals per game. That's

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<v Speaker 1>why he was the number one player in the portal.

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<v Speaker 1>The most recent NBA mock draft said he would be

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<v Speaker 1>he would go with the twenty sixth pick, But now

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<v Speaker 1>he's heading for ann Arbor. You gotta think that with

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<v Speaker 1>a kid who transferred in from UCLA, they got one

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<v Speaker 1>be probably top five preseason. They also got a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of big time incoming freshmen. Michigan won the Big Ten

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<v Speaker 1>last year beating Wisconsin. Remember that got to the sweet

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<v Speaker 1>sixteen before they lost to Auburn. And they're gonna be really,

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<v Speaker 1>really good if it all falls into place and everybody

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<v Speaker 1>stays healthy this coming year. By the way, I mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>Anthony Davis. Remember the trade for Luka Doncic Well, Donsich

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<v Speaker 1>evidently showed up in a photograph from a soccer match

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<v Speaker 1>overseas and I saw the picture and I, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't pay a lot of attention to his physical appearance,

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<v Speaker 1>but even I can tell this guy's in much better shape.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. That was that was the criticism about his fitness. Wait,

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<v Speaker 1>will he stay in shape? Get in shape and stay

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<v Speaker 1>in shape? Will he work with Lebron? Well, he's doing

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<v Speaker 1>something right because his physical condition played a role in

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<v Speaker 1>the MAVs willingness to trade him. But now he's playing

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<v Speaker 1>alongside Lebron and apparently more serious about getting leaner, getting healthier.

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<v Speaker 1>And they're calling it his revenge body. But he was

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<v Speaker 1>at a real Madrid match and somebody wrote, slim Luca

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<v Speaker 1>will have this league shook. If that boy gets in shape,

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<v Speaker 1>the league is in trouble. When we come back to baseball,

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<v Speaker 1>Wildcats about it the hour, Chuck Cooperstein, Dallas Mavericks radio voice,

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<v Speaker 1>around six thirty WLAP. Welcome back to the Big Blue Insider.

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<v Speaker 1>Coming up at the bottom of the hour just a

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<v Speaker 1>few minutes, Chuck Cooperstein, radio voice of the Dallas Mavericks,

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<v Speaker 1>whose roster now includes Anthony Davis, the center point literally

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<v Speaker 1>of Kentucky's twenty twelve INTAA title team Top of the Hour,

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<v Speaker 1>darreon Hedrick Radio, voice of the baseball Wildcats. They opened

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<v Speaker 1>play in the nca Tournament on Friday against West Virginia,

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<v Speaker 1>a game you will hear right here. Nick Benziona the

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<v Speaker 1>players talked earlier today and Nick reiterated everything Kentucky had

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<v Speaker 1>lost from last year's team, everything but the starting catcher

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<v Speaker 1>and at part time starting right fielder. Everybody else went pro.

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<v Speaker 1>And then from the pitching staff they lost their entire

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<v Speaker 1>starting rotation and top two relievers. Everybody went pro or graduated.

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<v Speaker 1>And from the position players, the center field and Nolan

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<v Speaker 1>McCarthy went through the portal, but everybody was gone except

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<v Speaker 1>for two regulars, so they had to rebuild thirty one

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<v Speaker 1>I think it is brand new players and Benjione talked

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<v Speaker 1>about the fact that they kind of had to start

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<v Speaker 1>over and accomplish what they could in a year immediately

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<v Speaker 1>after a trip to the College World Series.

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<v Speaker 2>So you're sitting there going, well, who did we have back?

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<v Speaker 2>We literally had Devin and James back, and every other

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<v Speaker 2>spot was wide open, and there was a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people that never gave this team a chance to even

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<v Speaker 2>make the postseason. So these guys coming in had a

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<v Speaker 2>decision to make. Am I gonna just do whatever I

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<v Speaker 2>can to win that spot in that role or are

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<v Speaker 2>we going to be a team. And I'm super proud

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<v Speaker 2>of them because look what's happened.

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<v Speaker 3>They've become a team.

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<v Speaker 2>And even to the last day and the last minute,

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<v Speaker 2>there was still some people that did not know or

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, that's right, and I'm guilty as charged. I didn't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I had my doubts, no doubt about it. I have

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<v Speaker 1>seen Kentucky teams with more wins not get into the tournament,

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<v Speaker 1>including one coach by Nick Benjeone I think three years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>and Minjione has lived through stuff like this before. But

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<v Speaker 1>strength to schedule being a part of that brutal sec

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<v Speaker 1>got the Wildcats through it.

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<v Speaker 2>People asked all the time, like, hey, what's what's Oklahoma

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<v Speaker 2>Texas like in baseball? Like I said, well, let's let's

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<v Speaker 2>review that Texas has been to Omaha more than any

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<v Speaker 2>college baseball program in the entire country. And Oklahoma just

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<v Speaker 2>played for the Baseball National Championship in twenty twenty two.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, a league just got better. So I would

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<v Speaker 2>tell you that I love our slogan on the wall

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<v Speaker 2>out there. It just means more. And that's what the

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<v Speaker 2>league has done, is like we've continued to get better

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<v Speaker 2>and had more teams. And the thing that I'm appreciative

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<v Speaker 2>about is the rest of the country knows and they understand,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe now at a higher level. And when you just

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<v Speaker 2>look at our non conference winning percentage, it was over

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<v Speaker 2>eight forty. I think it was eight forty this year,

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<v Speaker 3>So when you just.

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<v Speaker 2>correct if I'm wrong, but I think an SEC team

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<v Speaker 2>has played for a national championship fifteen of the sixteen years.

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<v Speaker 3>Let that sink in.

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<v Speaker 2>That basically says like who's it going to be this year?

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<v Speaker 1>The fact that Kentucky is going down for the third

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<v Speaker 1>as Nicks, that were gone, but now they're going a

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<v Speaker 2>I've been in this situation before as a head coach,

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<v Speaker 1>I do remember that team. Oh that was a tough

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<v Speaker 4>It is what it is. You gotta look past to

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<v Speaker 4>move on. So we just have gone one hundred percent

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<v Speaker 4>in these practices. You know, would rather err on the

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<v Speaker 4>than worrying about what's going to happen and you know,

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<v Speaker 4>going half hearted. So just giving it all in practice

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<v Speaker 4>and just ain't out with coaches Cumans just bouncing back

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<v Speaker 1>Veteran lefty reliever Evan Byers has been a part of

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, definitely a relief, a lot of excitement in the room.

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<v Speaker 5>a top you know, eight seed last year, hosting a

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<v Speaker 3>That was cool to see.

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<v Speaker 5>Go back to see the video and everybody's reactions. It

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<v Speaker 1>So, not only are the Wildcats in there are a

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<v Speaker 1>three seed taken on West Virginia a couple of weeks ago,

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<v Speaker 1>of the UK note a big paid a for Kentucky

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<v Speaker 1>offensive line coach Eric Wolford. UK has given him a

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty five, So now his contract is worth nine

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<v Speaker 1>hundred thousand dollars. That's the going rate for veteran coaches. However,

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<v Speaker 1>last year, that offensive line has got to get better.

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<v Speaker 1>Chuck Cooperstein next in six thirty WLAP welcome back to

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<v Speaker 1>the Big Blue and Cider and joining us now in

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<v Speaker 1>our celebrity highline is a guy I met when he

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<v Speaker 1>walked through our studio doors in Dallas at the Southwest

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<v Speaker 1>Conference Network GOSH back in the early eighties, and since then,

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<v Speaker 1>Chuck Cooperstein has done an awful lot, but more than anything,

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<v Speaker 1>he is own as the radio voice of the Dallas

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<v Speaker 1>Mavericks and a buddy since like I said, Gosh, just coop.

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<v Speaker 1>It just seems like it was yesterday, doesn't it.

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<v Speaker 3>Nineteen eighty four, November November of nineteen eighty four. I

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<v Speaker 3>got the call.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>Can we tell Can we tell more about the first

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<v Speaker 3>the first day though?

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<v Speaker 1>Sure ahead.

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<v Speaker 3>So the first you called me earlier in the week

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<v Speaker 3>and said, no, come on in. It happened to be

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<v Speaker 3>a really big weekend, like TCU was playing Texas and

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<v Speaker 3>that was the one year. That was the year that

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<v Speaker 3>Whacker had the team really going, and you know that

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<v Speaker 3>one was number ten, one was number twelve, and you

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<v Speaker 3>wanted me to do the studio shows for all the

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<v Speaker 3>you know, for all the for all the games that day.

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<v Speaker 3>They're like three or four games that day and we

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<v Speaker 3>get to or at least I thought I was training.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's put it this way. I thought I was training you.

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<v Speaker 3>You said, at about ten fifty you ready to go.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't. I didn't know the format, I didn't know anything.

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<v Speaker 3>So so Dick, so Dick Gabriel unnamed, unnamed went in

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<v Speaker 3>and did the pregame show that day. Until I can

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<v Speaker 3>pick her out what was actually going on?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh man, uh yeah, but it all worked out.

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<v Speaker 3>It all worked out somehow. I survived well.

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<v Speaker 1>And what people need to understand is back then that

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<v Speaker 1>league was the only league that owned the rights to

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<v Speaker 1>all the games, all the networks, and so we talked

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<v Speaker 1>to all nine networks, sometimes as many as six at once.

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<v Speaker 1>It was really exciting. But uh, you had come down

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<v Speaker 1>Radio and since then you called TCU Texas, SMU Basketball

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<v Speaker 1>Football Westwood One. Uh, what a great career. But now

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<v Speaker 1>the MAVs, you've got an NBA championship ring.

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<v Speaker 3>I do, but long time, long time ago, but I

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<v Speaker 3>got one.

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<v Speaker 1>It was yeah, and uh, I still think you should

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<v Speaker 1>have had another one, but let's not talk about that.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, but man, being part of a franchise this

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<v Speaker 1>year has been at really the epicenter of two huge stories.

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<v Speaker 1>Trading away to the superstar and then snagging, against visually

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<v Speaker 1>all odds, the number one draft pick in a lottery.

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<v Speaker 1>What has that been like, Coop, To be a part

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<v Speaker 3>Like that, It's been the wildest roller coaster you could

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<v Speaker 3>ever imagine. Look, nobody has ever experienced this, Oh, because

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<v Speaker 3>no twenty five year old superstar, five time first team

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<v Speaker 3>All NBA player has ever been traded in his prime.

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<v Speaker 3>So the backlash you know from the fan base was

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<v Speaker 3>just vociferous. Whatever you might think was a really bad

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<v Speaker 3>day after Kentucky basketball loss, multiply that by about five million.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's and that's what you have here, and really

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<v Speaker 3>what you've had here on a pretty much pretty much

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<v Speaker 3>daily basis since February second, when the trade went down.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, Cooper Flagg being you know, the resumptive number one.

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<v Speaker 3>And again there were a bunch of people who are

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<v Speaker 3>still convinced, you know, or won't believe it until Adam

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<v Speaker 3>is going to play for the Mavericks on June twenty fifth.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean that only it only partially assuages the issue,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, because this team was you know, the franchise

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<v Speaker 3>as we know it was built on dirt, nabiski and

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<v Speaker 3>twenty one years and never leaving, you know, his statue

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<v Speaker 3>with what loyalty never fades. And then Luca was you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the heir apparent at the one cross over year before

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<v Speaker 3>he took over and did things then no Mavericks player

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<v Speaker 3>had ever done. And that was ripped away from the

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<v Speaker 3>fan base and fortunately now they have the chance to

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<v Speaker 3>fall in love with another player. Sure, but at the

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<v Speaker 3>same time, you know, given how everything is played out

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<v Speaker 3>in the NBA playoffs this year, you know, the Mavericks

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<v Speaker 3>believe going into the season that they had a team

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<v Speaker 3>that was capable of winning the championship, that they just

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<v Speaker 3>needed to make some tweaks around the edges. And they

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<v Speaker 3>did that. And you know, until Luca got hurt on Christmas.

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<v Speaker 3>They were nineteen and ten, they were just fine. And

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<v Speaker 3>then he got hurt, and then he got traded, and

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<v Speaker 3>then everybody got hurt. It all fell apart down.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but hurt. And here in the Big Boo Nation,

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<v Speaker 1>Anthony Davis comes over. And by the way, Chuck, we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to get to this a little later. Chuck is

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<v Speaker 1>a proud, proud Florida Gator, and he has worked several

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<v Speaker 1>games in Rupp Arena for Westwood One Radio, so he

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<v Speaker 1>knows college sports as well. But I think people here

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<v Speaker 1>were a little stunned, not just at the trade, Chuck,

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<v Speaker 1>but that people who follow the NBA were like, only

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<v Speaker 1>for Anthony Davis know there was more than that, but around.

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<v Speaker 3>Here there wasn't. It wasn't much. It wasn't much more

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<v Speaker 1>But around here that name has so much cachet, and

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<v Speaker 1>yet they probably didn't understand what the MAVs were giving up.

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<v Speaker 1>And plus Ad has been hurt a lot. But I

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<v Speaker 1>guess you can understand why people around here are still

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<v Speaker 3>Davis absolutely the way that Mavericks fans are protective of

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<v Speaker 3>Luca exactly. It really runs the way it Listen, Anthony

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<v Speaker 3>Davis top seventy five all time players going to the

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<v Speaker 3>Hall of Fame. I mean, they didn't get nothing for him,

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<v Speaker 3>but did they get but did they get the best

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<v Speaker 3>player in the trade? That can that can be argued,

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<v Speaker 3>That can be argued, you know, and especially you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the biggest issue that people have with Davis is that

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<v Speaker 3>he's never healthy. Now granted, you know the last couple

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<v Speaker 3>of years he was more healthy, but he's never really

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<v Speaker 3>been a particularly healthy player. And he's, uh, you know

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<v Speaker 3>what he's going to be what thirty three next year?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, he played what fifty eight games this year?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, he has a hard time playing sixty games.

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<v Speaker 3>And if you know, if he's not going to be around,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, even Luca, who generally misses somewhere between twelve

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<v Speaker 3>to fifteen games a year prior to this year. He's

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<v Speaker 3>playing more games, he's more he's been more impactful now again.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, Nico Harrison will tell you if you watch

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<v Speaker 3>the first game after the trade, Anthony Davis was unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 3>That's one of the greatest has of basketball I've ever seen.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, seriously, it was. It was unbelievable. But he

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<v Speaker 3>got hurt. He got hurt in the third quarter and

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<v Speaker 3>missed the next twenty games, you know, and then he

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<v Speaker 3>came back and he had some really good games after that,

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<v Speaker 3>but he was hurt. I mean, he understands the pressure

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<v Speaker 3>that comes with this trade that he's got to be

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<v Speaker 3>able to perform. But the interesting part about the whole trade,

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<v Speaker 3>Dick was, you know, the Mavericks team this year was

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<v Speaker 3>specifically because against Boston in the finals last year, the

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<v Speaker 3>Haafricks couldn't score one hundred points in any of those games.

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<v Speaker 3>They needed they needed more shooting. Klay Thompson would give

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<v Speaker 3>them shooting. And on the other side, the Lakers were

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<v Speaker 3>they're not in situations that enhance what they do. So

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<v Speaker 3>in a lot of ways, it was a lose lose,

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<v Speaker 3>although in fairness, now you know Luca when he got

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<v Speaker 3>there and you know, finally got healthy. I mean, the

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<v Speaker 3>Lakers did finish third in the West, and the West

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<v Speaker 3>is really good, so and they just did not play

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<v Speaker 3>well in the Minnesota Series and wound up in a

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<v Speaker 3>really bad matchup for them, which the playoffs always exposed.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, if they if they had Anthony Davis in

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<v Speaker 3>that series trying to match up with Gobaron Randall and

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<v Speaker 3>those guys, maybe they're maybe they're better off. Maybe they're

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<v Speaker 3>better off doing it that way. I mean, who knows.

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<v Speaker 3>But that that's the interesting thing about it is that

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<v Speaker 3>now both of them have so much to prove going

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<v Speaker 3>into next season to be able to justify the trade.

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<v Speaker 1>Talking to Chuck Cooperstein radio voice of the Dallas Mavericks,

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<v Speaker 1>and as I mentioned earlier, has done a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>college sports as well. We'll get to that in just

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<v Speaker 1>a moment. Despite like I said, almost I think the

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<v Speaker 1>odds are like one point eight percent that the MAVs

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<v Speaker 1>get the number one draft pick. And again, when I

439
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<v Speaker 1>lived in Dallas, I was a Maverick season ticket older,

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<v Speaker 1>still a fan, but couldn't believe in myself and immediately

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<v Speaker 1>and talking heads have to fill airwaves and the internet's

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<v Speaker 1>bottomless pit that we have to fill. So now comes

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<v Speaker 1>to the speculation that the MAVs trade to pick and

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<v Speaker 1>there's only one guy you would even think about, I

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<v Speaker 1>think trading for. And that's the honest But that's been

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<v Speaker 1>put to rest. Right, it's going to be Cooper Flag.

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<v Speaker 3>Right as far as I know, that's what That's what

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<v Speaker 3>I keep hearing, and I believe it has to be.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, you know it's going to be. It's going

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<v Speaker 3>to be an interesting experiment because, let's face it. You

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<v Speaker 3>know Nico Harrison when he made the trade and immediately said, look,

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<v Speaker 3>you know our window is three to four years. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, Kyrie Irving got hurt a month after the

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<v Speaker 3>trade and he won't be back probably until late January

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<v Speaker 3>or February, you know, so you know what are and

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<v Speaker 3>then he really won't be at his best until the

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<v Speaker 3>following years. So you've already lost the year there, but

458
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<v Speaker 3>they're still there. And a but at the same time,

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<v Speaker 3>you now have this this uber talent who's not even

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<v Speaker 3>nineteen years old yet, which is just absolutely astonishing, and

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<v Speaker 3>you're you're working on these parallel paths. Now, how do

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<v Speaker 3>you how do you build your team? Do you build

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<v Speaker 3>it for the future and do you build it around

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<v Speaker 3>Cooper Flag or are you doing it to try to

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<v Speaker 3>win in the short term? And especially when the general

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<v Speaker 3>manager has said that he doesn't figure that he's necessarily

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<v Speaker 3>long you know for the Mavericks, wants his contract expirers.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's it's a really fascinating conundrum that they find

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<v Speaker 3>themselves in, you know, from a team building standpoint, and

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<v Speaker 3>then from a coaching standpoint, how Jason Kidd and his

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<v Speaker 3>staff you know, work Flag into the mix where they're

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<v Speaker 3>a little top heavy at the four and certainly at

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<v Speaker 3>the moment anyway, not nearly strong enough at the point

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<v Speaker 3>guard spot.

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<v Speaker 1>Chuck Cooperstein, my Guess radio voice of the Dallas Mavericks

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<v Speaker 1>and a Florida Gator. We'll talk college sports on the

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<v Speaker 1>other side of the break here on six thirty WLAP

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back. We're talking with Chuck Cooperstein, longtime friend and

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<v Speaker 1>the radio voice of the Dallas Mavericks and an extraordinarily

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<v Speaker 1>proud Florida Gator, a New Yorker who made his way

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<v Speaker 1>to Gainesville. We've talked about that in the past, Chuck.

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<v Speaker 1>But how happy were you? I mean, were you over

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<v Speaker 1>the moon you had to be when your Gators jumped

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<v Speaker 1>up and won the NCAA title.

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<v Speaker 3>I was in the arena, man, it was the greatest good.

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<v Speaker 3>It was. It was absolutely phenomenal. I missed the semi

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<v Speaker 3>finals because the Mavericks were in Los Angeles playing the

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<v Speaker 3>Clippers that night, but was but was watching, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>in the in the dining room, you know, before we

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<v Speaker 3>go down and do all the pre games. The time

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<v Speaker 3>difference made it all work. Although that the end of

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<v Speaker 3>the game took so freaking long. I was wondering, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I really going to be able to see this. But

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<v Speaker 3>it was. It was great. It was you know, they

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<v Speaker 3>were you could tell early in the season they were

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<v Speaker 3>really good. But once they got into conference play and

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<v Speaker 3>even though they lost to Kentucky, you know, to begin

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<v Speaker 3>conference play in what was you know, certainly one of

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<v Speaker 3>the top two or three games in the SEC the

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<v Speaker 3>entire year. I mean, it was just an amazing game.

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<v Speaker 6>Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>That team was really good. H and Todd Golden had

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<v Speaker 3>that thing figured out, you know, pretty quickly about who

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<v Speaker 3>who could and who couldn't, and he wrote it. And

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<v Speaker 3>you know, as we always see in the NCAAs, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>there's always someone who breaks out and someone who really

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<v Speaker 3>you know, makes that name for himself. And Walter Clayton

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<v Speaker 3>clearly did that. Uh. I mean he was incredible looks

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<v Speaker 3>even in the even in the title game where he

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<v Speaker 3>had nothing going for the first thirty minutes of that game,

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<v Speaker 3>he found a way to get it going when they

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<v Speaker 3>when they needed him and obviously made the biggest defensive

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<v Speaker 3>play of all Oh man, he what.

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<v Speaker 1>A play and at one point played for Patino at Iona.

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<v Speaker 1>What a great.

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<v Speaker 3>Backstory, you know, fantastic and you know, and really was

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<v Speaker 3>a was a high quality football prospect, that's right, much

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<v Speaker 3>much more so even than a basketball prospect. And the

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<v Speaker 3>only reason that he didn't follow Patino to Saint John's

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<v Speaker 3>was that he has family in Florida and he in

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<v Speaker 3>fact that his girlfriend that believe was was pregnant at

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<v Speaker 3>the time, and I think they've had the child since then,

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<v Speaker 3>and he wanted to be near his family. That's the

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<v Speaker 3>old thing. He didn't go to Saint John's excellent.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a great backstory.

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<v Speaker 7>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And fortunately for you as well as the hiring, I didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>I've to admit I didn't know much about him when

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<v Speaker 1>Florida hired him. But some of the heads that I follow,

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<v Speaker 1>uh were impressed by him. Did you know much about

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<v Speaker 1>him from afar or maybe you've got networking contacts.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I didn't know much about him. I remember watching

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<v Speaker 3>them play Notre Dame in the NCAA's and and being

534
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<v Speaker 3>what a what a terrific game that was? And you know,

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<v Speaker 3>San Francisco didn't win that game, but you could you

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<v Speaker 3>could see there was an there was an NBA influence

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<v Speaker 3>to what he does and how he plays. And uh

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<v Speaker 3>and I think kids, you know, kids want to play

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<v Speaker 3>in the NBA, right, They want the best chance to

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<v Speaker 3>play in the NBA, So you might as well go

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<v Speaker 3>play an NBA style. Uh. And And in fact, in

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<v Speaker 3>many ways you know he's he was ahead of the

543
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<v Speaker 3>curve as far as you know, not just shooting a

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<v Speaker 3>whole bunch of threes and whatever. You know, the three

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<v Speaker 3>true outcomes of basketball. But he loves side. He I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>you mean look at I mean, look at that team.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean you look at you know, Thomas Hawk and

548
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<v Speaker 3>look at content and look at the hand hand glotting,

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<v Speaker 3>and that they got the seven nine Canadian kids. You

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<v Speaker 3>know who sat out last year, you know Olivier Leo.

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<v Speaker 3>You know who's who I guess is going to be,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, attempting to play this year and get himself

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<v Speaker 3>into the rotation. And and size was so important to

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<v Speaker 3>Florida's success. Had a really hard time matching up with

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<v Speaker 3>them because they would just they would just dominate the

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<v Speaker 3>boards and you know, get offensive rebounds, get extra opportunities, kickouts,

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<v Speaker 3>three pointers, that kind of thing. But it seemed like

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<v Speaker 3>in a lot of ways he was ahead of the

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<v Speaker 3>curve as far as you know, that type of recruiting.

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<v Speaker 3>But at the same time also knowing that you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you've got to be able, you know, to shoot a

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<v Speaker 3>certain number of threes. Now, last year he had a

563
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<v Speaker 3>team that was a terrible three point shooting team, and

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<v Speaker 3>they you know, sometimes you wonder and this is not

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<v Speaker 3>just with him, but this is with everybody. Like on

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<v Speaker 3>nights when you don't have it on nights, when you're

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<v Speaker 3>not making threes. I mean, I understand the shooter mentalities

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<v Speaker 3>that the next one's going to go in, but at

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<v Speaker 3>times like the coach has got to say, fellas, we've

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<v Speaker 3>got to find a different way to score. And I

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<v Speaker 3>think Todd last year probably did not do that enough

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<v Speaker 3>with his team. And I think this year, and especially

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<v Speaker 3>with Clayton and his ability not just to shoot, but

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<v Speaker 3>he's you know, able to drive it, get into the

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<v Speaker 3>paint and make things happen, they were much much more

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<v Speaker 3>balanced in that way. And I don't think he's, uh,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, he's he did a really really good job

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<v Speaker 3>with that team, and obviously that team believed in him

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<v Speaker 3>because I mean, how many times did they have to

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<v Speaker 3>play from behind, especially in the NCAA tournament, how many

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<v Speaker 3>times they had to play from behind against really good

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<v Speaker 3>teams and they were able to rally to win. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, he's he's lost a couple of coaches to

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<v Speaker 3>head coaching jobs, has to replace some staff and we'll

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<v Speaker 3>see how that goes going forward.

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<v Speaker 1>Chuck Cooperstein, I guess radio voice of the Dallas Mavericks

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<v Speaker 1>and a Florida Gator. Your team also lost a kid

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<v Speaker 1>at the University of Kentucky and Mark Pope.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we could talk about the portal all night.

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<v Speaker 1>But on the other hand, you got a talented kid,

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<v Speaker 1>I find an interesting job. You got a kid who

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<v Speaker 1>came in from Princeton and another kid from was it Ohio?

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<v Speaker 3>You yes? Sometime?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, you know, not not plucking kids from

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the so called college powerhouses, but kids who

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<v Speaker 1>clearly fit his style. I think that's fast.

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<v Speaker 3>But he well he did get Boogie Flann too. That helps.

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<v Speaker 3>But but but I think I think you see that throughout, uh,

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<v Speaker 3>throughout the portal and throughout you know, the the early spring.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not necessarily you know poaching, uh poaching you know,

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<v Speaker 3>big to big, you know, power forward to power forward.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, look at look at the kid, the Landenborg. Uh,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, from U A. B. To Michigan. You know

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of people thought was gonna go into the draft,

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<v Speaker 3>and he just declared that, you know, he's gonna he's

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<v Speaker 3>gonna go to Michigan and play next year, which makes

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<v Speaker 3>them really good because because Dusty, because Dusty May has

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<v Speaker 3>really used the portal well, uh to to keep that

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<v Speaker 3>team up. Uh. So I mean, well, I think what

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<v Speaker 3>it goes to show is that, you know, there are

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of really good players. But at the same time,

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<v Speaker 3>it's it's kind of a shame that the you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the mid majors are are sort of being used as

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<v Speaker 3>a as a proving ground for the for the hie

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<v Speaker 3>majors to see, you know, do we want to bring

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<v Speaker 3>this guy in or not? Because as I think, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>Mark Pope's done it. Uh, I think, uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>Golden's done. I think generally speaking, the philosophy in college

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<v Speaker 3>basketball now, with very few exceptions, is to get old

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<v Speaker 3>and staled.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly, Well, it pays off in so many ways,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, you know it's paying off. It paid off

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<v Speaker 1>for the Gators with the national title, National basketball title

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<v Speaker 1>a few minutes left with Chuck Cooperstein let us talk football.

626
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<v Speaker 1>Billy Napier, by all accounts, was a good hire. But

627
00:34:22.760 --> 00:34:25.320
<v Speaker 1>I know Gator fans are still a little bit restless.

628
00:34:25.320 --> 00:34:27.719
<v Speaker 1>How do you feel right now because back when you

629
00:34:27.760 --> 00:34:31.519
<v Speaker 1>were in school, losing to Kentucky wasn't even a consideration,

630
00:34:31.800 --> 00:34:32.039
<v Speaker 1>was it?

631
00:34:32.639 --> 00:34:37.119
<v Speaker 3>And now they before well, it actually was. Because my

632
00:34:37.760 --> 00:34:42.199
<v Speaker 3>freshman year was the Kentucky ten and ten and one

633
00:34:42.239 --> 00:34:45.000
<v Speaker 3>season seventy seven when when when Art's still and Derrek

634
00:34:45.079 --> 00:34:48.840
<v Speaker 3>Ramsey was there that old I am that all, yeah,

635
00:34:49.880 --> 00:34:52.239
<v Speaker 3>that was that was my freshman year. Now we played

636
00:34:52.239 --> 00:34:54.519
<v Speaker 3>pretty good that day. We lost fourteen to seven. But

637
00:34:54.599 --> 00:34:57.639
<v Speaker 3>of course Florida, the Florida that year had ten players

638
00:34:57.679 --> 00:35:00.000
<v Speaker 3>drafted into the NFL Draft, more than any other school.

639
00:35:00.480 --> 00:35:03.920
<v Speaker 3>They went six to four and one, and really that's

640
00:35:03.960 --> 00:35:06.719
<v Speaker 3>why Doug Dickey got fired the following year, even though

641
00:35:06.760 --> 00:35:09.119
<v Speaker 3>he did a better job coaching a four and seventeen

642
00:35:09.400 --> 00:35:11.960
<v Speaker 3>than he did a sixty four and one team. But

643
00:35:12.159 --> 00:35:14.639
<v Speaker 3>after that, yes, it took a long time for Kentucky

644
00:35:15.159 --> 00:35:19.840
<v Speaker 3>to beat Florida. But you know, I think Kentucky is

645
00:35:20.199 --> 00:35:23.199
<v Speaker 3>Kentucky's kind of over the last years anyway, has really

646
00:35:23.239 --> 00:35:25.480
<v Speaker 3>figured some things that they've been far more physical. I mean,

647
00:35:25.599 --> 00:35:27.639
<v Speaker 3>and even there were, you know, several games that they

648
00:35:27.719 --> 00:35:29.559
<v Speaker 3>lost where it's like, at the end of the day,

649
00:35:29.559 --> 00:35:31.639
<v Speaker 3>how did they lose that game? Had it or how

650
00:35:31.639 --> 00:35:34.039
<v Speaker 3>did Florida win that game? I think it was more

651
00:35:34.079 --> 00:35:36.159
<v Speaker 3>of how Kentucky lost the game. I mean, so it

652
00:35:36.440 --> 00:35:39.239
<v Speaker 3>had been because because Mark Stewkes does coach a really

653
00:35:39.239 --> 00:35:44.360
<v Speaker 3>physical style football. But I think Billy Billy was just

654
00:35:44.559 --> 00:35:46.719
<v Speaker 3>about done. I was in Gains both for the A

655
00:35:46.760 --> 00:35:50.559
<v Speaker 3>and M game last September, and that was just disastrous.

656
00:35:51.119 --> 00:35:53.360
<v Speaker 3>You know, on the heels of the of the Miami game.

657
00:35:53.400 --> 00:35:55.840
<v Speaker 3>It was the Miami game all over again, except A

658
00:35:55.920 --> 00:35:58.760
<v Speaker 3>and M wasn't nearly as talented and the game was

659
00:35:58.800 --> 00:36:02.800
<v Speaker 3>basically over at halftime. And uh, you know, to his credit, uh,

660
00:36:02.920 --> 00:36:06.559
<v Speaker 3>you know, and again to their players credit, Uh, they

661
00:36:06.599 --> 00:36:08.960
<v Speaker 3>they hung they hung in there. They played a really

662
00:36:09.000 --> 00:36:11.960
<v Speaker 3>good game against UCF, won that game, played a really

663
00:36:12.039 --> 00:36:14.400
<v Speaker 3>good game against Tennessee. They should have won that game,

664
00:36:14.760 --> 00:36:17.320
<v Speaker 3>absolutely should have won that game, wound up losing it overtime.

665
00:36:18.360 --> 00:36:21.920
<v Speaker 3>And then listen, they had Georgia on the ropes. If

666
00:36:22.039 --> 00:36:25.000
<v Speaker 3>if DJ Lagway doesn't get hurt, they're gonna be Georgia

667
00:36:25.039 --> 00:36:27.719
<v Speaker 3>that day, because Georgia was not interested in playing. And

668
00:36:27.719 --> 00:36:29.480
<v Speaker 3>and you know, now, as it turned out, Georgia had

669
00:36:29.480 --> 00:36:31.840
<v Speaker 3>a lot of games this year where they they probably

670
00:36:32.119 --> 00:36:36.199
<v Speaker 3>were not interested in playing for whatever reason. Yes, yes,

671
00:36:36.280 --> 00:36:37.760
<v Speaker 3>in fact, that was that was the day of the

672
00:36:37.760 --> 00:36:40.079
<v Speaker 3>A and M game in games Goal, so I watched

673
00:36:40.079 --> 00:36:42.400
<v Speaker 3>most of that game. And yes, Rock Bander, if Rock

674
00:36:42.440 --> 00:36:47.400
<v Speaker 3>Vandergrift could have completed a pass, maybe maybe Kentucky wants

675
00:36:47.480 --> 00:36:51.599
<v Speaker 3>up winning the game. But but you know, the November

676
00:36:51.719 --> 00:36:54.039
<v Speaker 3>was really good. It was a really good finish to

677
00:36:54.079 --> 00:36:56.440
<v Speaker 3>the year. Uh, the Lagway didn't do much in the

678
00:36:56.440 --> 00:36:59.280
<v Speaker 3>spring because of his shoulder, but he's gonna be fine. Uh,

679
00:36:59.400 --> 00:37:03.159
<v Speaker 3>you know, he really from again. All indications is recruited well,

680
00:37:03.239 --> 00:37:05.960
<v Speaker 3>he's done well in the portal, so you know, the

681
00:37:06.039 --> 00:37:09.920
<v Speaker 3>expectations are high. But at the same time, the schedule

682
00:37:10.039 --> 00:37:13.000
<v Speaker 3>was really hard. It's you know, pretty much the reverse

683
00:37:13.119 --> 00:37:16.840
<v Speaker 3>of what they had last year. But you know that

684
00:37:16.880 --> 00:37:19.119
<v Speaker 3>means you're you know, you're still having to play. You know,

685
00:37:19.599 --> 00:37:22.360
<v Speaker 3>at least you get Tennessee at home, you get Texas

686
00:37:22.360 --> 00:37:26.159
<v Speaker 3>at home, and hopefully that that makes a difference.

687
00:37:26.920 --> 00:37:29.760
<v Speaker 1>You know, I actually covered a couple of Kentucky wins

688
00:37:29.760 --> 00:37:32.159
<v Speaker 1>in games but which I didn't know would be possible

689
00:37:32.800 --> 00:37:36.159
<v Speaker 1>as a sidelines reporter. But I can also tell you, brother,

690
00:37:36.440 --> 00:37:38.800
<v Speaker 1>I spent some of the longest days of my career

691
00:37:39.719 --> 00:37:42.400
<v Speaker 1>working games down there in the heat with Florida just

692
00:37:42.559 --> 00:37:46.400
<v Speaker 1>absolutely trashing Kentucky, mostly with Spurrier there. So you know

693
00:37:46.440 --> 00:37:48.679
<v Speaker 1>how it goes up and down in the SEC. But

694
00:37:49.599 --> 00:37:51.719
<v Speaker 1>next time we talk, we'll talk about the changes in

695
00:37:51.760 --> 00:37:54.840
<v Speaker 1>the conference and in college ball, but we're out of time.

696
00:37:54.920 --> 00:37:57.519
<v Speaker 1>I do appreciate talking with you. I'd love listening to

697
00:37:57.559 --> 00:38:00.480
<v Speaker 1>you on serious XM radio, and I'm rooting for the MAVs,

698
00:38:00.559 --> 00:38:01.000
<v Speaker 1>my brother.

699
00:38:02.079 --> 00:38:06.039
<v Speaker 3>I appreciate it. Thanks, Dick, have a good one you too, man.

700
00:38:06.119 --> 00:38:08.800
<v Speaker 1>That takes me back to those early days in Dallas,

701
00:38:08.840 --> 00:38:11.039
<v Speaker 1>and I do remember that now that he mentions it

702
00:38:11.079 --> 00:38:13.960
<v Speaker 1>that I had to jump in. I was the executive producer,

703
00:38:14.599 --> 00:38:16.880
<v Speaker 1>but I jumped in and did a segment there in

704
00:38:16.920 --> 00:38:19.599
<v Speaker 1>the studio, just until we could get Chuck settled. But

705
00:38:19.639 --> 00:38:22.239
<v Speaker 1>I got to tell you, you know, it was great.

706
00:38:22.280 --> 00:38:25.079
<v Speaker 1>I got to hear in Montcarel. Dianna thought Hey, that's

707
00:38:25.079 --> 00:38:27.800
<v Speaker 1>a guy I could use, and gave him a call.

708
00:38:28.079 --> 00:38:30.199
<v Speaker 1>He came over and next thing you know, he was

709
00:38:30.239 --> 00:38:32.920
<v Speaker 1>one of our studio anchors. And not long after I

710
00:38:33.000 --> 00:38:36.159
<v Speaker 1>left Dallas, he really began to make his climbing and

711
00:38:36.519 --> 00:38:40.360
<v Speaker 1>five became the radio voice of the Dallas Mavericks. Did

712
00:38:40.360 --> 00:38:43.239
<v Speaker 1>a lot of other stuff, but that's how he's best

713
00:38:43.280 --> 00:38:45.400
<v Speaker 1>known now. I re Number two is up next with

714
00:38:45.480 --> 00:38:49.280
<v Speaker 1>Darren Hedrick, and we'll talk about the SEC Commissioner taking

715
00:38:49.400 --> 00:38:52.960
<v Speaker 1>up again for SEC football, which you would expect him

716
00:38:53.000 --> 00:38:56.559
<v Speaker 1>to do and how Kentucky figured in to a little

717
00:38:56.599 --> 00:38:58.639
<v Speaker 1>bit of a controversy last year when it came to

718
00:38:58.679 --> 00:39:01.400
<v Speaker 1>the college football playoff. That's next. You're on six thirty

719
00:39:01.519 --> 00:40:55.239
<v Speaker 1>of a do you like to welcome back to the

720
00:40:55.239 --> 00:40:57.840
<v Speaker 1>Big Blue and Sider joining us now on the Celebrity Hotline.

721
00:40:57.840 --> 00:41:00.440
<v Speaker 1>He was in the garage last week with the rest

722
00:41:00.480 --> 00:41:02.880
<v Speaker 1>of the Chain gang, but Darren Headrick, the radio voice

723
00:41:02.880 --> 00:41:06.599
<v Speaker 1>of the baseball Wildcats, is with us. And I gotta admit, Darren,

724
00:41:07.119 --> 00:41:11.840
<v Speaker 1>that as optimistic as we tried to be when you

725
00:41:11.920 --> 00:41:14.400
<v Speaker 1>and the other guys were in the garage as the

726
00:41:14.480 --> 00:41:18.320
<v Speaker 1>selection show unfolded, brother, I thought, well, that's it, you know.

727
00:41:18.719 --> 00:41:21.559
<v Speaker 1>And they were down to like the last two possible

728
00:41:21.639 --> 00:41:24.559
<v Speaker 1>regionals and they got in. And I talked to Patrick

729
00:41:24.599 --> 00:41:28.000
<v Speaker 1>Herrera before the press conference earlier this morning. He said, yeah, man,

730
00:41:28.039 --> 00:41:29.679
<v Speaker 1>they made it tough on us. We had to wait.

731
00:41:30.199 --> 00:41:34.119
<v Speaker 1>But you were as optimistic as anybody. And of course

732
00:41:34.119 --> 00:41:37.880
<v Speaker 1>you see every game virtually, and so you were right

733
00:41:37.880 --> 00:41:40.239
<v Speaker 1>in the middle of that sec action. Is that what

734
00:41:40.400 --> 00:41:43.079
<v Speaker 1>kept you positive? Seeing how tough that league is day

735
00:41:43.079 --> 00:41:44.039
<v Speaker 1>in and day out.

736
00:41:44.679 --> 00:41:47.239
<v Speaker 6>To be honest, it really was just knowing how good

737
00:41:47.360 --> 00:41:49.960
<v Speaker 6>the league is And you know, one of the points

738
00:41:50.000 --> 00:41:52.239
<v Speaker 6>that I don't think people have talked about enough with

739
00:41:52.320 --> 00:41:56.559
<v Speaker 6>this dick is Kentucky saw Oklahoma and Texas added to

740
00:41:56.599 --> 00:42:00.000
<v Speaker 6>the league this year, which did not do any favorite

741
00:42:00.400 --> 00:42:02.719
<v Speaker 6>for anybody. It just made the league deeper and it

742
00:42:02.760 --> 00:42:06.679
<v Speaker 6>made it better. And Kentucky faced both and went four

743
00:42:06.679 --> 00:42:10.559
<v Speaker 6>and two in the regular season against them. And Kentucky

744
00:42:10.599 --> 00:42:13.679
<v Speaker 6>did not get the benefit of playing Missouri when they

745
00:42:13.719 --> 00:42:16.880
<v Speaker 6>had one of their worst seasons ever, So you know,

746
00:42:17.079 --> 00:42:20.440
<v Speaker 6>I felt like that helped Kentucky ass. I think going

747
00:42:20.480 --> 00:42:23.480
<v Speaker 6>on the road and beating Tennessee and Knoxville wait a

748
00:42:23.519 --> 00:42:26.599
<v Speaker 6>lot towards helping their resume. I think having a win

749
00:42:26.639 --> 00:42:30.480
<v Speaker 6>over Louisville and Texas as well. And the biggest thing

750
00:42:30.559 --> 00:42:34.039
<v Speaker 6>for me though, is Kentucky passes the eye test. They

751
00:42:34.079 --> 00:42:39.000
<v Speaker 6>compete so hard and they play so close with these teams,

752
00:42:39.480 --> 00:42:42.039
<v Speaker 6>and it's like coach Menngiona has talked about, they can

753
00:42:42.159 --> 00:42:45.760
<v Speaker 6>beat anybody on any given day, but with the margin

754
00:42:45.800 --> 00:42:47.960
<v Speaker 6>of era, they can also lose some of those games.

755
00:42:47.960 --> 00:42:51.519
<v Speaker 6>And we saw that plenty of one run defeeds should

756
00:42:51.519 --> 00:42:53.880
<v Speaker 6>have won the series at Vanderbilt. But you credit the

757
00:42:53.960 --> 00:42:56.199
<v Speaker 6>number one overall seed for hitting the walk off home

758
00:42:56.280 --> 00:42:59.480
<v Speaker 6>runs to earn the sweep. So no, I think this

759
00:42:59.559 --> 00:43:03.039
<v Speaker 6>team deserved it. And even though the trends were going

760
00:43:03.119 --> 00:43:05.280
<v Speaker 6>the wrong way Sunday night, from a lot of the

761
00:43:05.400 --> 00:43:08.920
<v Speaker 6>experts and publications, I thought Kentucky deserved being in.

762
00:43:09.199 --> 00:43:12.519
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, you know that. You make a good case

763
00:43:12.519 --> 00:43:15.480
<v Speaker 1>for that. And again, having seen all the home games

764
00:43:15.519 --> 00:43:17.320
<v Speaker 1>and most of the road games, I agree with you.

765
00:43:17.760 --> 00:43:21.079
<v Speaker 1>I just wondered, as you did, and well, the text

766
00:43:21.119 --> 00:43:24.679
<v Speaker 1>chain was popping when those underdogs kept jumping up and

767
00:43:24.719 --> 00:43:27.920
<v Speaker 1>winning their conference tournaments. Bubble teams kept moving in, and

768
00:43:27.960 --> 00:43:30.800
<v Speaker 1>you thought they might elbow Kentucky to the sideline. But

769
00:43:30.920 --> 00:43:33.280
<v Speaker 1>I was as surprised as anything, Darren, And I know

770
00:43:33.360 --> 00:43:37.000
<v Speaker 1>you probably, well maybe not that they were not one

771
00:43:37.000 --> 00:43:40.480
<v Speaker 1>of the last four teams end that shock. You were surprised.

772
00:43:41.599 --> 00:43:44.760
<v Speaker 6>A little bit, Yeah, just because you know, really, all

773
00:43:44.800 --> 00:43:46.960
<v Speaker 6>you have to go on is what a lot of

774
00:43:46.960 --> 00:43:50.760
<v Speaker 6>the publications like D one Baseball and Baseball America are saying.

775
00:43:50.800 --> 00:43:54.079
<v Speaker 6>And those guys know what they are talking about. Now.

776
00:43:54.079 --> 00:43:58.360
<v Speaker 6>Are they educated guesses, Yes, but they're educated guesses, and

777
00:43:59.039 --> 00:44:01.920
<v Speaker 6>so yeah, from those standpoints, it kind of felt like, Okay,

778
00:44:01.960 --> 00:44:06.440
<v Speaker 6>these are it's getting pretty tight. And Arizona State is

779
00:44:06.480 --> 00:44:09.119
<v Speaker 6>a team that was way behind Kentucky and the rpiously

780
00:44:09.199 --> 00:44:11.719
<v Speaker 6>finished fourth in the Big Twelve, and the Big Twelve

781
00:44:12.239 --> 00:44:17.119
<v Speaker 6>was the number three RPI conference this year. Obviously, by

782
00:44:17.159 --> 00:44:22.039
<v Speaker 6>the way the brackets unfolded, the ACC was not highly regarded.

783
00:44:22.119 --> 00:44:25.559
<v Speaker 6>The ACC regular season champion is not hosting, and their

784
00:44:25.599 --> 00:44:28.320
<v Speaker 6>tournament champion wasn't even a top five seed. I don't

785
00:44:28.320 --> 00:44:31.920
<v Speaker 6>think are a top four, So clearly the committee did

786
00:44:31.920 --> 00:44:34.440
<v Speaker 6>not care for the ACC as much as they did

787
00:44:34.480 --> 00:44:35.639
<v Speaker 6>the Big Twelve.

788
00:44:35.360 --> 00:44:36.800
<v Speaker 3>And the SEC.

789
00:44:37.079 --> 00:44:39.719
<v Speaker 6>And I know there was some borderline Big East teams

790
00:44:39.719 --> 00:44:42.440
<v Speaker 6>that didn't make it in. I thought the committee did

791
00:44:42.440 --> 00:44:45.400
<v Speaker 6>an overall about as well done of a job as

792
00:44:45.400 --> 00:44:48.880
<v Speaker 6>they could, because nobody's you're never going to make everybody happy.

793
00:44:48.920 --> 00:44:55.320
<v Speaker 6>But I thought they'd made some really defensible choices, let's

794
00:44:55.320 --> 00:44:57.519
<v Speaker 6>put it that way, and I thought Kentucky being inn

795
00:44:57.559 --> 00:44:58.679
<v Speaker 6>certainly was one of them.

796
00:44:59.320 --> 00:45:02.079
<v Speaker 1>You know, you mentioned Vandy in that series. I mean

797
00:45:02.599 --> 00:45:05.079
<v Speaker 1>you talk about just making your stomach grind. I can't

798
00:45:05.119 --> 00:45:07.000
<v Speaker 1>imagine what it was like. I was listening to you,

799
00:45:07.079 --> 00:45:10.480
<v Speaker 1>but just to be down there and Kentucky scored what

800
00:45:11.079 --> 00:45:15.920
<v Speaker 1>eighteen runs over three games against a Vandy team that

801
00:45:16.039 --> 00:45:20.360
<v Speaker 1>the following weekend wins the SEC Tournament and Darren gives

802
00:45:20.400 --> 00:45:24.440
<v Speaker 1>up only three runs to Oklahoma, Tennessee and Ole Miss.

803
00:45:24.559 --> 00:45:28.639
<v Speaker 1>That's phenomenal. And I felt like Kentucky at least that

804
00:45:28.800 --> 00:45:31.960
<v Speaker 1>weekend was the better team than Vandy, which is now

805
00:45:32.000 --> 00:45:34.039
<v Speaker 1>the overall number one seed. It was amazing.

806
00:45:34.880 --> 00:45:37.840
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, they certainly played like they were and you know,

807
00:45:37.960 --> 00:45:41.239
<v Speaker 6>offensively they were in sinc They laid down butts, they

808
00:45:41.280 --> 00:45:45.159
<v Speaker 6>stole bases, they hit home runs, and they executed in

809
00:45:45.199 --> 00:45:48.960
<v Speaker 6>big spots to score those runs. And I'm like you,

810
00:45:49.119 --> 00:45:52.920
<v Speaker 6>I thought they outplayed Vandy. It's just unfortunately you're two

811
00:45:52.960 --> 00:45:55.880
<v Speaker 6>pitches away from being two and one at worst. Yes,

812
00:45:56.199 --> 00:45:59.360
<v Speaker 6>in that series, if you don't give up a leadoff

813
00:45:59.400 --> 00:46:02.239
<v Speaker 6>walk in the seat spending on that last day, then

814
00:46:02.280 --> 00:46:06.280
<v Speaker 6>maybe you know you're three to zero. But I thought overall,

815
00:46:06.559 --> 00:46:09.079
<v Speaker 6>Kentucky did a great job in that series, and the

816
00:46:09.119 --> 00:46:13.000
<v Speaker 6>way Vandy's playing now, we'll see. I for one, think

817
00:46:13.079 --> 00:46:15.800
<v Speaker 6>this tournament's wide open, just like I think this regional

818
00:46:15.840 --> 00:46:18.280
<v Speaker 6>and Clemson is going to be wide open this weekend.

819
00:46:19.199 --> 00:46:21.880
<v Speaker 1>Really, I really do.

820
00:46:22.159 --> 00:46:23.920
<v Speaker 6>I think you've got a number of teams that can

821
00:46:24.000 --> 00:46:26.199
<v Speaker 6>jump up there and win it. I think Georgia Tech

822
00:46:26.280 --> 00:46:29.639
<v Speaker 6>can make the College World Series from that two seed

823
00:46:29.800 --> 00:46:32.119
<v Speaker 6>in Oxford. I think they're good enough to beat Old

824
00:46:32.199 --> 00:46:34.159
<v Speaker 6>Miss in Oxford. I think they're good enough to beat

825
00:46:34.199 --> 00:46:35.679
<v Speaker 6>Georgia in a super regional.

826
00:46:36.760 --> 00:46:37.000
<v Speaker 3>Well.

827
00:46:37.119 --> 00:46:39.079
<v Speaker 6>Time will tell, though. You know, they had one of

828
00:46:39.079 --> 00:46:42.679
<v Speaker 6>the weaker regular season schedules in the ACC. That's not

829
00:46:42.800 --> 00:46:45.679
<v Speaker 6>Georgia Tech's fault. That's their conference. That's the way they

830
00:46:45.679 --> 00:46:49.239
<v Speaker 6>did it with their computer generated schedule. But I think

831
00:46:49.280 --> 00:46:52.039
<v Speaker 6>Georgia Tech's good enough to make Omaha. I think Texas

832
00:46:52.039 --> 00:46:54.599
<v Speaker 6>can win it all. I think Vanderbilt has the pitching

833
00:46:54.639 --> 00:46:57.719
<v Speaker 6>to do it. And then you look at the regional

834
00:46:58.199 --> 00:47:01.920
<v Speaker 6>this weekend that Kentucky's in West Virginia Big twelve champions

835
00:47:01.960 --> 00:47:05.760
<v Speaker 6>stumbled down the stretch and got swept at Kansas. Clemson

836
00:47:05.840 --> 00:47:08.599
<v Speaker 6>is really good at home, but they're mortal as all

837
00:47:08.639 --> 00:47:11.360
<v Speaker 6>teams are, and so I think this thing could be

838
00:47:11.400 --> 00:47:13.719
<v Speaker 6>wide open in the postseason. This is going to be

839
00:47:13.760 --> 00:47:16.239
<v Speaker 6>a fun postseason baseball experience.

840
00:47:16.239 --> 00:47:18.440
<v Speaker 1>It really will be. Darren Hedricks our guest. He is

841
00:47:18.440 --> 00:47:21.199
<v Speaker 1>a radio voice of the baseball Wildcats. He'll be there

842
00:47:21.239 --> 00:47:25.000
<v Speaker 1>at Clemson when the Wildcats open up on noon Friday

843
00:47:25.000 --> 00:47:29.840
<v Speaker 1>at noon on Friday you mentioned Georgia Tech. The ESPN

844
00:47:29.880 --> 00:47:32.840
<v Speaker 1>did a nice job with their head coach, hall of

845
00:47:32.840 --> 00:47:36.719
<v Speaker 1>famer who is retiring. So there's an emotional edge, I

846
00:47:36.760 --> 00:47:40.320
<v Speaker 1>think for Georgia Tech. But that can help a team

847
00:47:40.400 --> 00:47:43.760
<v Speaker 1>like the Wildcats. I think emotions because here they have

848
00:47:43.800 --> 00:47:47.480
<v Speaker 1>survived that bet you four straight losses Vandy and then

849
00:47:47.880 --> 00:47:52.119
<v Speaker 1>the SEC tournament. But you know, getting in when a

850
00:47:52.119 --> 00:47:54.320
<v Speaker 1>lot of people didn't think you would. That can lift

851
00:47:54.320 --> 00:47:56.280
<v Speaker 1>a team, can it?

852
00:47:56.280 --> 00:47:59.480
<v Speaker 6>It really can? And you can circle the wagons and

853
00:47:59.719 --> 00:48:03.719
<v Speaker 6>play as a team and go for it all. And

854
00:48:03.800 --> 00:48:08.199
<v Speaker 6>I also think that playing in the SEC as fun

855
00:48:08.400 --> 00:48:11.159
<v Speaker 6>and electric as an environment and as hostile as it

856
00:48:11.239 --> 00:48:13.559
<v Speaker 6>will be at Clemson this weekend, if and when the

857
00:48:13.599 --> 00:48:17.960
<v Speaker 6>Wildcats do play the Tigers, I think Kentucky's ready for that.

858
00:48:18.159 --> 00:48:21.239
<v Speaker 6>They've played in Nashville against Vanderbilt. They've played at Tennessee.

859
00:48:21.280 --> 00:48:23.400
<v Speaker 6>If you can win a series at Tennessee with as

860
00:48:23.440 --> 00:48:26.559
<v Speaker 6>hostile of an environment as that can be, you're all right.

861
00:48:26.559 --> 00:48:29.599
<v Speaker 6>They've been to Georgia. There's players on this team that

862
00:48:29.639 --> 00:48:32.079
<v Speaker 6>have been to the box at LSU, and they've even

863
00:48:32.119 --> 00:48:34.760
<v Speaker 6>talked about that. So you know this, this is not

864
00:48:34.880 --> 00:48:37.760
<v Speaker 6>anything this weekend they have not already seen and they

865
00:48:37.760 --> 00:48:38.920
<v Speaker 6>should be ready for it.

866
00:48:39.400 --> 00:48:42.079
<v Speaker 1>You were at the news conference earlier today when Nick

867
00:48:42.119 --> 00:48:44.880
<v Speaker 1>ben joined, a couple of the players spoke, and we've

868
00:48:44.880 --> 00:48:47.960
<v Speaker 1>been dropping those interviews in here tonight on the show.

869
00:48:48.960 --> 00:48:53.199
<v Speaker 1>But he mentioned injuries, and you know, and you talk

870
00:48:53.239 --> 00:48:55.559
<v Speaker 1>about it on the air as well. You just kind

871
00:48:55.559 --> 00:48:58.440
<v Speaker 1>of remind fans, but you don't harp on it, and

872
00:48:58.800 --> 00:49:02.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, he might discuss it with you singularly in

873
00:49:02.280 --> 00:49:04.800
<v Speaker 1>the pregame show whatever, But as he said, he has

874
00:49:04.880 --> 00:49:07.880
<v Speaker 1>made a point of not talking about it because you know,

875
00:49:07.960 --> 00:49:10.920
<v Speaker 1>he's right. Nobody else cares. I mean that the team cares.

876
00:49:11.280 --> 00:49:14.880
<v Speaker 1>You care, I care, but you know, everybody deals with injuries.

877
00:49:14.920 --> 00:49:18.119
<v Speaker 1>But they were so fortunate each of the last two

878
00:49:18.199 --> 00:49:22.159
<v Speaker 1>years just to be healthy at this time completely, and

879
00:49:22.199 --> 00:49:27.159
<v Speaker 1>now it's frustrating to talk about the guys who aren't available,

880
00:49:27.599 --> 00:49:30.480
<v Speaker 1>and yet, hey, everybody's got to deal with that, right.

881
00:49:31.199 --> 00:49:34.440
<v Speaker 6>That's right. Everybody's dealing with it, especially this time of year.

882
00:49:34.480 --> 00:49:37.000
<v Speaker 6>And I'm sure there's a you know, look at Texas.

883
00:49:37.000 --> 00:49:39.360
<v Speaker 6>Their Friday night starter's been out for over a month

884
00:49:39.440 --> 00:49:43.400
<v Speaker 6>now and they've had to retool their rotation. So everybody's

885
00:49:43.400 --> 00:49:46.599
<v Speaker 6>going through it, but you know, for me, I do

886
00:49:46.639 --> 00:49:48.760
<v Speaker 6>bring it up occasionally, not to harp on it, but

887
00:49:48.840 --> 00:49:50.599
<v Speaker 6>just to remind people it is a part of the

888
00:49:50.639 --> 00:49:53.559
<v Speaker 6>story of this year that you lose your center fielder

889
00:49:54.159 --> 00:49:57.400
<v Speaker 6>Ethan Hendle was playing terrific in SEC play before the

890
00:49:57.400 --> 00:50:00.480
<v Speaker 6>foot injury sideline him for the year. And then they

891
00:50:00.480 --> 00:50:04.199
<v Speaker 6>have some pieces on this pitching staff that haven't appearing

892
00:50:04.239 --> 00:50:06.960
<v Speaker 6>on the mound and all this spring due to injuries

893
00:50:07.119 --> 00:50:10.280
<v Speaker 6>that were expected to be major contributors. So it's you know,

894
00:50:10.360 --> 00:50:13.159
<v Speaker 6>and then there are times they've had to patchwork the lineup.

895
00:50:13.480 --> 00:50:17.519
<v Speaker 6>Against Mississippi State, they were down to their fourth and

896
00:50:17.679 --> 00:50:21.039
<v Speaker 6>fifth options at third base. It's just a part of

897
00:50:21.280 --> 00:50:25.679
<v Speaker 6>going through a thirty game SEC schedule and they're fortunately,

898
00:50:25.880 --> 00:50:27.639
<v Speaker 6>I think they're coming out on the other end of

899
00:50:27.679 --> 00:50:29.920
<v Speaker 6>it now and starting to get guys back and healthy

900
00:50:29.960 --> 00:50:31.280
<v Speaker 6>for this run in the postseason.

901
00:50:31.599 --> 00:50:33.559
<v Speaker 1>We're talking to Darren Hedrick, the radio boys of the

902
00:50:33.559 --> 00:50:37.280
<v Speaker 1>Baseball Wildcats. He'll call the action when Kentucky opens NCAA

903
00:50:37.440 --> 00:50:40.519
<v Speaker 1>tournament play against West Virginia coming up on Friday. We'll

904
00:50:40.519 --> 00:50:42.000
<v Speaker 1>talk more with Darren on the other side of the

905
00:50:42.000 --> 00:50:45.480
<v Speaker 1>break here on six thirty WLAP Welcome Back my guest

906
00:50:45.559 --> 00:50:48.519
<v Speaker 1>Darren Hedrick of the UK Baseball Network. He is the

907
00:50:48.519 --> 00:50:51.239
<v Speaker 1>playbook play voice of the Wildcats who open up NCAA

908
00:50:51.360 --> 00:50:55.159
<v Speaker 1>tournament played this Friday at noon Eastern against those West

909
00:50:55.199 --> 00:50:57.920
<v Speaker 1>Virginia Mountaineers. And by the way, you need to pull

910
00:50:58.000 --> 00:51:02.280
<v Speaker 1>up the Inside Kentucky base Ball podcast with the two Darrens,

911
00:51:02.519 --> 00:51:06.559
<v Speaker 1>mister Hedrick and mister Williams, the former Kentucky pitcher. They

912
00:51:06.599 --> 00:51:10.159
<v Speaker 1>he'll prep you for the upcoming tournament. And Kentucky did

913
00:51:10.280 --> 00:51:12.480
<v Speaker 1>not play West Virginia this year or a last, but

914
00:51:13.360 --> 00:51:16.280
<v Speaker 1>we all got a chance to watch the Mountaineers play

915
00:51:16.320 --> 00:51:20.039
<v Speaker 1>in the tournament two years ago in a Lexington similar

916
00:51:20.119 --> 00:51:24.519
<v Speaker 1>style as Kentucky. They try to create chaos on the

917
00:51:24.519 --> 00:51:25.199
<v Speaker 1>base pass.

918
00:51:25.239 --> 00:51:25.360
<v Speaker 3>Now.

919
00:51:25.400 --> 00:51:27.360
<v Speaker 1>Two years ago they had a guy who was one

920
00:51:27.400 --> 00:51:29.840
<v Speaker 1>of the best in America doing that. I don't know

921
00:51:29.920 --> 00:51:31.320
<v Speaker 1>much about him right now, do you.

922
00:51:32.760 --> 00:51:34.880
<v Speaker 6>I've looked at him a little bit, not enough that

923
00:51:34.920 --> 00:51:37.639
<v Speaker 6>I could sit here and spout a bunch of individuals

924
00:51:37.639 --> 00:51:41.079
<v Speaker 6>and their stats. I can tell you they're pretty balanced.

925
00:51:41.159 --> 00:51:43.840
<v Speaker 6>Like you were talking about, they'll steal, they've got some power.

926
00:51:44.159 --> 00:51:47.760
<v Speaker 6>They defend well. You don't win the Big twelve by accident.

927
00:51:48.239 --> 00:51:51.280
<v Speaker 6>They're pitching staff as solid. They've got two really strong

928
00:51:52.400 --> 00:51:55.400
<v Speaker 6>starters on the weekend Friday and Saturday, not little one

929
00:51:55.480 --> 00:51:59.000
<v Speaker 6>two punch. We'll see how they decide to pitch. I'm

930
00:51:59.000 --> 00:52:01.920
<v Speaker 6>assuming we're going to get their best on Friday to

931
00:52:01.960 --> 00:52:03.920
<v Speaker 6>try to get off to a good start in the regional.

932
00:52:04.639 --> 00:52:07.679
<v Speaker 6>If that's the case, then it's likely kern Ki r N.

933
00:52:07.840 --> 00:52:10.840
<v Speaker 6>He's got ninety two strikeouts on the season and an

934
00:52:10.880 --> 00:52:15.280
<v Speaker 6>ERA in the mid threes. So they do have some

935
00:52:15.400 --> 00:52:19.199
<v Speaker 6>good pitching on that respect, but just a solid team.

936
00:52:19.960 --> 00:52:22.559
<v Speaker 6>I will be curious to see how the styles clash

937
00:52:22.679 --> 00:52:27.000
<v Speaker 6>because the Big Twelve, it's a different style they've got. Well,

938
00:52:27.039 --> 00:52:30.239
<v Speaker 6>their geography stretches from West Virginia to Arizona, so you're

939
00:52:30.280 --> 00:52:33.119
<v Speaker 6>talking about different climates for the ball. Why is a

940
00:52:33.119 --> 00:52:36.400
<v Speaker 6>lot different. So you go down to Baylor or Arizona

941
00:52:36.519 --> 00:52:38.800
<v Speaker 6>or Texas Tech, and the ball flies a lot different

942
00:52:38.800 --> 00:52:42.199
<v Speaker 6>than it does in West Virginia. So we'll see how

943
00:52:42.239 --> 00:52:44.719
<v Speaker 6>these styles clash on Friday. It should be a really

944
00:52:44.719 --> 00:52:45.760
<v Speaker 6>interesting matchup.

945
00:52:46.280 --> 00:52:48.679
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but we don't know who's pitching yet for Kentucky,

946
00:52:48.679 --> 00:52:51.440
<v Speaker 1>and it's got to be tempting for Minjeon and Dan

947
00:52:51.559 --> 00:52:55.400
<v Speaker 1>Roselle to flip the rotation and start Ben Cleaver, get

948
00:52:55.400 --> 00:52:57.800
<v Speaker 1>off to that good start in the regional and go

949
00:52:57.880 --> 00:53:01.159
<v Speaker 1>with the Sunday guy. But they're still Mulley that over,

950
00:53:01.199 --> 00:53:01.679
<v Speaker 1>aren't they.

951
00:53:02.719 --> 00:53:02.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

952
00:53:03.000 --> 00:53:05.119
<v Speaker 6>I don't think they're ready to announce a starter for

953
00:53:05.199 --> 00:53:07.360
<v Speaker 6>Friday just yet, but you're.

954
00:53:07.280 --> 00:53:07.960
<v Speaker 3>Right about that.

955
00:53:08.519 --> 00:53:11.239
<v Speaker 6>To me, to win a regional, winning that first game

956
00:53:11.360 --> 00:53:15.280
<v Speaker 6>is so critical. And we've seen why Kentucky is three

957
00:53:15.360 --> 00:53:18.480
<v Speaker 6>for three and making Super Regionals under Nick Menjeon when

958
00:53:18.519 --> 00:53:22.159
<v Speaker 6>they are interregional because they do start one to oh. Now,

959
00:53:22.159 --> 00:53:24.400
<v Speaker 6>they've had to come from the loser's bracket a couple

960
00:53:24.400 --> 00:53:28.639
<v Speaker 6>of times, but that was you know, they still started

961
00:53:28.679 --> 00:53:32.400
<v Speaker 6>one to oh in all those regionals. So get off

962
00:53:32.400 --> 00:53:34.199
<v Speaker 6>to a one and oh start and then see what

963
00:53:34.320 --> 00:53:37.559
<v Speaker 6>happens on that Saturday, and hopefully by Sunday you're playing

964
00:53:37.599 --> 00:53:40.079
<v Speaker 6>with house money, and like coach Manda says, you're three

965
00:53:40.079 --> 00:53:42.800
<v Speaker 6>wins away from a Super and five wins away from Omaha.

966
00:53:43.119 --> 00:53:46.239
<v Speaker 1>So let let's go back. And speaking of getting off

967
00:53:46.239 --> 00:53:50.480
<v Speaker 1>the good starts, let's go back to the SEC tournament. Kentucky.

968
00:53:50.559 --> 00:53:53.480
<v Speaker 1>It looked like there was so much traffic against Oklahoma

969
00:53:53.519 --> 00:53:56.239
<v Speaker 1>in the first three innings, and you know, they bounced

970
00:53:56.239 --> 00:53:58.320
<v Speaker 1>into a double play of the bases loaded. I mean,

971
00:53:58.360 --> 00:54:01.199
<v Speaker 1>they just couldn't get anything going and it looked like

972
00:54:01.280 --> 00:54:04.280
<v Speaker 1>all the steam just left them and they flattened out

973
00:54:04.719 --> 00:54:06.360
<v Speaker 1>and lost that one to a team they had just

974
00:54:06.400 --> 00:54:09.000
<v Speaker 1>swept five to one. And we all know how hard

975
00:54:09.039 --> 00:54:11.400
<v Speaker 1>it is just to sweep, much less win four straight

976
00:54:11.440 --> 00:54:16.360
<v Speaker 1>against a top ten team. But I don't anticipate that

977
00:54:16.480 --> 00:54:18.800
<v Speaker 1>kind of effort or lack of same. Not that it

978
00:54:18.840 --> 00:54:21.079
<v Speaker 1>was a lack of effort, they just they just kind of,

979
00:54:21.239 --> 00:54:22.880
<v Speaker 1>as I said, just kind of flattened out at the

980
00:54:22.880 --> 00:54:27.159
<v Speaker 1>plate laid against Oklahoma. But I don't think we'll see

981
00:54:27.159 --> 00:54:28.599
<v Speaker 1>that on Friday.

982
00:54:28.639 --> 00:54:31.199
<v Speaker 6>To you, I think you're going to see a lot

983
00:54:31.239 --> 00:54:33.199
<v Speaker 6>of energy. I think you're going to see a highly

984
00:54:33.239 --> 00:54:37.519
<v Speaker 6>motivated team in this regional A lot of people didn't

985
00:54:37.559 --> 00:54:39.440
<v Speaker 6>think they would make it and here they are, so

986
00:54:39.480 --> 00:54:41.400
<v Speaker 6>they might have a little chip on their shoulder with

987
00:54:41.480 --> 00:54:43.679
<v Speaker 6>something to prove. And I think we're going to see

988
00:54:43.679 --> 00:54:47.159
<v Speaker 6>their best effort against West Virginia and whomever they might

989
00:54:47.199 --> 00:54:48.159
<v Speaker 6>play on Saturday.

990
00:54:48.199 --> 00:54:48.559
<v Speaker 3>After that.

991
00:54:48.920 --> 00:54:52.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, you know this is an sec that, as

992
00:54:52.239 --> 00:54:55.599
<v Speaker 1>you mentioned, ads Oklahoma and Texas, and hey, they're both

993
00:54:55.639 --> 00:54:58.960
<v Speaker 1>on Kentucky's schedule. How about that, although thankfully for the

994
00:54:58.960 --> 00:55:03.320
<v Speaker 1>Wildcats both in Lexington and you know, people forget that

995
00:55:03.400 --> 00:55:06.199
<v Speaker 1>they took one off of Texas and the Game three

996
00:55:06.199 --> 00:55:09.280
<v Speaker 1>of that series was a one run game, right, and

997
00:55:09.280 --> 00:55:13.800
<v Speaker 1>then nobody, I don't think nationally expected Kentucky to sweep Oklahoma,

998
00:55:13.880 --> 00:55:18.800
<v Speaker 1>but that series Texas Tennessee kind of signaled to the

999
00:55:18.840 --> 00:55:21.679
<v Speaker 1>rest of the country that, oh, wait a minute, Kentucky's

1000
00:55:21.760 --> 00:55:23.039
<v Speaker 1>kind of waking up, you know what I mean?

1001
00:55:24.119 --> 00:55:26.480
<v Speaker 6>I agree, and you know what, I still throw in

1002
00:55:26.519 --> 00:55:29.119
<v Speaker 6>the series win down in College Station against Texas.

1003
00:55:29.480 --> 00:55:30.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're right.

1004
00:55:31.079 --> 00:55:32.880
<v Speaker 6>I know A and M did not have the season

1005
00:55:32.960 --> 00:55:35.360
<v Speaker 6>they wanted and they did not make the tournament, first

1006
00:55:35.400 --> 00:55:39.000
<v Speaker 6>time ever that the preseason number one ranked team did

1007
00:55:39.039 --> 00:55:41.840
<v Speaker 6>not make a regional. So I know their season did

1008
00:55:41.880 --> 00:55:44.880
<v Speaker 6>not go as they planned. But part of the reason

1009
00:55:44.960 --> 00:55:47.039
<v Speaker 6>for that is because Kentucky went down there and won

1010
00:55:47.079 --> 00:55:48.960
<v Speaker 6>two out of three, and I thought that was a

1011
00:55:49.039 --> 00:55:51.800
<v Speaker 6>huge series for this team and part of the reason

1012
00:55:51.840 --> 00:55:55.320
<v Speaker 6>why the entire way through the SEC they were one

1013
00:55:55.400 --> 00:55:57.800
<v Speaker 6>or two wins away from being five hundred in the league.

1014
00:55:57.920 --> 00:56:00.599
<v Speaker 6>And I always like to remind people, you know, people

1015
00:56:00.679 --> 00:56:04.119
<v Speaker 6>kind of scoff oh, thirteen league wins. Well, thirteen gets

1016
00:56:04.119 --> 00:56:06.800
<v Speaker 6>you in the tournament, as we know, fourteen you're solidly

1017
00:56:07.360 --> 00:56:10.480
<v Speaker 6>in the field, and fifteen you're in the conversation to

1018
00:56:10.519 --> 00:56:12.880
<v Speaker 6>host a regionals. So you get one or two of

1019
00:56:12.880 --> 00:56:15.000
<v Speaker 6>those one run losses to go the other way, and

1020
00:56:15.559 --> 00:56:17.320
<v Speaker 6>we might be playing at home this weekend.

1021
00:56:17.800 --> 00:56:21.519
<v Speaker 1>Well, and Nick talked earlier today about something I saw

1022
00:56:21.599 --> 00:56:25.599
<v Speaker 1>him discuss with Finebaum, and you and Doug and Keith

1023
00:56:25.639 --> 00:56:28.639
<v Speaker 1>and I have talked about this, just the you know,

1024
00:56:28.679 --> 00:56:33.239
<v Speaker 1>one pitch, one play is the difference so often and

1025
00:56:33.519 --> 00:56:37.960
<v Speaker 1>Nick has parsed the numbers of the five thousand plus

1026
00:56:38.039 --> 00:56:42.480
<v Speaker 1>pitches that have been involved in Kentucky baseball games. Nine

1027
00:56:42.599 --> 00:56:45.840
<v Speaker 1>plays separated Kentucky from another at least a share of

1028
00:56:45.880 --> 00:56:49.280
<v Speaker 1>the SEC championship. But that's baseball, isn't it. I mean,

1029
00:56:49.480 --> 00:56:51.599
<v Speaker 1>you know what, A lot of a lot of teams

1030
00:56:51.639 --> 00:56:56.039
<v Speaker 1>can say that, But so what, it's still true, right, yeah?

1031
00:56:56.119 --> 00:56:58.440
<v Speaker 6>I mean you go back and I know the plays

1032
00:56:58.440 --> 00:57:00.360
<v Speaker 6>he's talking about. I may even know so, but he

1033
00:57:00.719 --> 00:57:04.679
<v Speaker 6>really wasn't referring to, you know, don't drop a pop

1034
00:57:04.800 --> 00:57:08.480
<v Speaker 6>up against Auburn and you win that series. The Tigers

1035
00:57:08.480 --> 00:57:11.039
<v Speaker 6>were down to their final out and losing that game.

1036
00:57:11.239 --> 00:57:13.320
<v Speaker 6>And you know Kentucky doesn't make the catch of a

1037
00:57:13.400 --> 00:57:16.280
<v Speaker 6>rootine pop up, they score two tiet and go on

1038
00:57:16.400 --> 00:57:19.840
<v Speaker 6>to win it. I think it was old myth. Devid

1039
00:57:19.880 --> 00:57:22.480
<v Speaker 6>Birch drilled a ninety to one hundred mile an hour

1040
00:57:22.679 --> 00:57:25.159
<v Speaker 6>line drive, but it was right at the short stop,

1041
00:57:25.280 --> 00:57:27.480
<v Speaker 6>five feet to the left or right. It's a game winner.

1042
00:57:28.679 --> 00:57:31.199
<v Speaker 6>You look at the Vanderbilt series, there's two the two

1043
00:57:31.239 --> 00:57:35.159
<v Speaker 6>walk offs, there's two right there. So you know there's

1044
00:57:35.320 --> 00:57:38.760
<v Speaker 6>four wins right there. Just if the you make the

1045
00:57:38.840 --> 00:57:42.280
<v Speaker 6>pitch or make the defensive play, or make or get

1046
00:57:42.280 --> 00:57:48.119
<v Speaker 6>the hit, then you're sitting there looking at seventeen league

1047
00:57:48.159 --> 00:57:51.360
<v Speaker 6>wins instead of thirteen. So it is that close. That's

1048
00:57:51.400 --> 00:57:53.760
<v Speaker 6>the margin, and that's what he keeps referring to. And

1049
00:57:54.280 --> 00:57:56.599
<v Speaker 6>a lot of those close plays went their way the

1050
00:57:56.639 --> 00:57:59.880
<v Speaker 6>last two years and this year not not as much.

1051
00:58:00.760 --> 00:58:02.320
<v Speaker 1>I'll let you go with this. You mentioned the last

1052
00:58:02.360 --> 00:58:06.679
<v Speaker 1>couple of years, and really last year's Omaha team began

1053
00:58:06.960 --> 00:58:10.599
<v Speaker 1>to take route clearly the year prior, when they host

1054
00:58:10.639 --> 00:58:12.599
<v Speaker 1>the regionals, they had to go down to LSU to

1055
00:58:12.599 --> 00:58:15.719
<v Speaker 1>play the eventual national champion. I don't think anybody really

1056
00:58:15.760 --> 00:58:20.039
<v Speaker 1>expected them, although they played well down there, but they

1057
00:58:20.119 --> 00:58:23.719
<v Speaker 1>carried that experience into the following year and played well

1058
00:58:23.800 --> 00:58:26.559
<v Speaker 1>enough to host as they won the conference, host a

1059
00:58:26.639 --> 00:58:28.400
<v Speaker 1>super and we've talked about that so much as they

1060
00:58:28.400 --> 00:58:31.280
<v Speaker 1>could just host a Super and not go to Louisville

1061
00:58:31.320 --> 00:58:33.760
<v Speaker 1>or not go to LSU and it all paid off.

1062
00:58:34.599 --> 00:58:37.800
<v Speaker 1>This year's team had to kind of condense all of

1063
00:58:37.840 --> 00:58:41.159
<v Speaker 1>that into one season, didn't it. Thirty one new faces,

1064
00:58:41.480 --> 00:58:44.039
<v Speaker 1>guys who had played at other places and had some

1065
00:58:44.159 --> 00:58:47.320
<v Speaker 1>individuals success but not so much as a team. Some

1066
00:58:47.400 --> 00:58:50.320
<v Speaker 1>had had some had been to the NCAA tournament, But

1067
00:58:50.360 --> 00:58:53.239
<v Speaker 1>they had to squeeze it all into one year and

1068
00:58:53.599 --> 00:58:57.920
<v Speaker 1>develop as a potential, you know, winning ball club. That

1069
00:58:58.000 --> 00:58:58.880
<v Speaker 1>ain't easy, is it?

1070
00:59:00.000 --> 00:59:00.480
<v Speaker 3>Oh? It's not.

1071
00:59:00.679 --> 00:59:02.840
<v Speaker 6>And while they are going to lose some key pieces

1072
00:59:02.880 --> 00:59:05.559
<v Speaker 6>off this year's team to graduation and who knows, maybe

1073
00:59:05.599 --> 00:59:07.840
<v Speaker 6>some pro ball, but they're going to have a lot

1074
00:59:07.880 --> 00:59:10.440
<v Speaker 6>of faces back next year. And so I feel like

1075
00:59:10.559 --> 00:59:14.760
<v Speaker 6>this year's team kind of has a similar path as

1076
00:59:14.840 --> 00:59:18.000
<v Speaker 6>that twenty twenty three club in that you're going to

1077
00:59:18.079 --> 00:59:20.960
<v Speaker 6>return a lot of guys. It was twenty twenty three

1078
00:59:21.039 --> 00:59:24.360
<v Speaker 6>stretching to twenty twenty four. Now it's twenty twenty five,

1079
00:59:24.480 --> 00:59:26.920
<v Speaker 6>stretching into twenty twenty six, you're going to get Tyler

1080
00:59:27.000 --> 00:59:32.119
<v Speaker 6>Bell and Luke Lawrence and Ryan Schwartz and Hudson Brown

1081
00:59:32.320 --> 00:59:34.400
<v Speaker 6>and all these guys are going to be back for you,

1082
00:59:34.519 --> 00:59:38.519
<v Speaker 6>Kayas Gargett Ethan Hindle and so you get those guys

1083
00:59:38.519 --> 00:59:41.400
<v Speaker 6>and then an outstanding freshman class in the future is

1084
00:59:41.400 --> 00:59:44.159
<v Speaker 6>looking really bright. And like you mentioned earlier today in

1085
00:59:44.199 --> 00:59:47.559
<v Speaker 6>the press conference, you've made three straight regionals and now

1086
00:59:47.599 --> 00:59:49.639
<v Speaker 6>for a lot of the guys coming up in high school,

1087
00:59:50.000 --> 00:59:52.400
<v Speaker 6>Kentucky is a brand that a lot of players are

1088
00:59:52.400 --> 00:59:52.960
<v Speaker 6>going to want.

1089
00:59:52.800 --> 00:59:53.280
<v Speaker 3>To play for.

1090
00:59:53.639 --> 00:59:57.679
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's a style, it's a brand, it's a chance

1091
00:59:57.719 --> 01:00:01.280
<v Speaker 1>to play in the SEC. It's a viable alternative. Not

1092
01:00:01.440 --> 01:00:04.880
<v Speaker 1>everybody can sign with LSU, right, not everybody can sign

1093
01:00:04.920 --> 01:00:08.159
<v Speaker 1>with Texas come play in the SEC. Yeah, it's the

1094
01:00:08.199 --> 01:00:11.280
<v Speaker 1>northernmost you know. But it's also one of the nicest

1095
01:00:11.440 --> 01:00:14.920
<v Speaker 1>facilities in all the college baseball. So it's all coming together,

1096
01:00:15.000 --> 01:00:15.360
<v Speaker 1>isn't it.

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01:00:16.159 --> 01:00:18.559
<v Speaker 6>That's right. And I apologize for the sirens behind me.

1098
01:00:18.599 --> 01:00:20.480
<v Speaker 6>They're coming to take me away, haha.

1099
01:00:20.559 --> 01:00:23.800
<v Speaker 1>So it's okay. When you need a ride, brother, you

1100
01:00:23.840 --> 01:00:27.000
<v Speaker 1>need a ride, that's fine, that's right. Darren Heddrick will

1101
01:00:27.039 --> 01:00:29.280
<v Speaker 1>call the action as the Wildcats take on those West

1102
01:00:29.360 --> 01:00:34.039
<v Speaker 1>Virginia Mountaineers, and also tune in pull up the podcast

1103
01:00:34.119 --> 01:00:36.599
<v Speaker 1>Inside Kentucky Baseball. You learn a lot from the two

1104
01:00:36.639 --> 01:00:40.000
<v Speaker 1>Darren's mister Hedrick and mister Williams. Thanks so much, brother,

1105
01:00:40.079 --> 01:00:41.679
<v Speaker 1>have a safe trip and we'll talk to you soon.

1106
01:00:42.960 --> 01:00:44.639
<v Speaker 6>You got it, Dick, thanks so much for having me

1107
01:00:44.679 --> 01:00:45.960
<v Speaker 6>my friend. We'll see you down the road.

1108
01:00:46.960 --> 01:00:49.920
<v Speaker 1>Up next, we'll talk college football to playoffs and Greg

1109
01:00:50.039 --> 01:00:53.440
<v Speaker 1>Sankey is ruffling some feathers at the spring meetings, which

1110
01:00:53.800 --> 01:00:56.760
<v Speaker 1>is to be expected the SEC Commissioner. And we'll hear

1111
01:00:56.760 --> 01:00:59.119
<v Speaker 1>more from the baseball Wildcats on the other side of

1112
01:00:59.119 --> 01:01:03.639
<v Speaker 1>the break here on the Big six thirty WLAP. Welcome

1113
01:01:03.679 --> 01:01:05.800
<v Speaker 1>back to the Big Blue Insider, Dick Gabriel with you

1114
01:01:05.880 --> 01:01:08.000
<v Speaker 1>coming up tomorrow night. It's going to be the best

1115
01:01:08.000 --> 01:01:11.400
<v Speaker 1>of the Big Blue Insider. Why jury duty, that's right,

1116
01:01:11.480 --> 01:01:14.599
<v Speaker 1>I got the slipping the mail and once again, and

1117
01:01:14.639 --> 01:01:16.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm one of those lucky people. I don't know why,

1118
01:01:17.559 --> 01:01:20.199
<v Speaker 1>but my name keeps coming up. It's come up probably

1119
01:01:20.320 --> 01:01:23.960
<v Speaker 1>half a dozen times. And I talk to people all

1120
01:01:24.000 --> 01:01:25.519
<v Speaker 1>the time who have never been called I don't know

1121
01:01:25.559 --> 01:01:28.079
<v Speaker 1>why that is. I don't mind it. It's just, you know,

1122
01:01:28.800 --> 01:01:31.079
<v Speaker 1>it's part of being an American citizen. That's all well

1123
01:01:31.079 --> 01:01:33.480
<v Speaker 1>and good, but you got to rearrange some things in

1124
01:01:33.519 --> 01:01:36.079
<v Speaker 1>your life now. I am semi retired. I am not

1125
01:01:36.320 --> 01:01:40.360
<v Speaker 1>currently involved in calling games because my job with the

1126
01:01:40.440 --> 01:01:44.440
<v Speaker 1>UK Baseball games, the streaming telecast that's behind me for

1127
01:01:44.440 --> 01:01:47.519
<v Speaker 1>a couple of weeks now and college football. I assume

1128
01:01:47.559 --> 01:01:49.960
<v Speaker 1>I'll be back with a network. Can't really say for sure.

1129
01:01:50.000 --> 01:01:52.280
<v Speaker 1>You never know until you get the contract in the mail.

1130
01:01:52.320 --> 01:01:54.480
<v Speaker 1>But if I am, I don't have to worry about

1131
01:01:54.519 --> 01:01:58.280
<v Speaker 1>that until late August. So just doing this little radio

1132
01:01:58.320 --> 01:02:01.000
<v Speaker 1>show out of my garage is it keeps me busy.

1133
01:02:01.280 --> 01:02:04.119
<v Speaker 1>But if I'm tied up much of the day down

1134
01:02:04.159 --> 01:02:06.480
<v Speaker 1>at the courthouse, well, I've just got to present the

1135
01:02:06.480 --> 01:02:09.360
<v Speaker 1>best of and then you wait and see if you're selected.

1136
01:02:09.400 --> 01:02:12.679
<v Speaker 1>You have to call a number every day for five

1137
01:02:12.679 --> 01:02:16.079
<v Speaker 1>straight days to see if your during number, duror number

1138
01:02:16.599 --> 01:02:19.840
<v Speaker 1>is mentioned. And then when you go to report, you

1139
01:02:20.079 --> 01:02:22.360
<v Speaker 1>see if you're one of the people selected. And I'll

1140
01:02:22.400 --> 01:02:25.800
<v Speaker 1>be honest, I've never been selected for one reason or another,

1141
01:02:25.840 --> 01:02:27.599
<v Speaker 1>but you still have to go down there, go through

1142
01:02:27.639 --> 01:02:30.119
<v Speaker 1>the process. That's all well and good, that's fine, that's

1143
01:02:30.159 --> 01:02:33.599
<v Speaker 1>all part of it. But as I said, you just

1144
01:02:33.639 --> 01:02:36.199
<v Speaker 1>got to make arrangements, and I'll be making arrangements for

1145
01:02:36.239 --> 01:02:38.920
<v Speaker 1>the best of the Big Blue Insider tomorrow. And I

1146
01:02:38.960 --> 01:02:41.800
<v Speaker 1>do have vacation coming up as well, so we'll replace

1147
01:02:41.880 --> 01:02:45.960
<v Speaker 1>some of those classic bbis coming up this summer. Anyhow,

1148
01:02:46.400 --> 01:02:49.079
<v Speaker 1>it's not going to be long before we're talking about

1149
01:02:49.079 --> 01:02:52.239
<v Speaker 1>the college football openers. And as I mentioned in the

1150
01:02:52.360 --> 01:02:55.840
<v Speaker 1>very first part of the show, first or second, lots

1151
01:02:55.840 --> 01:02:59.440
<v Speaker 1>of chatter about the college football Playoff and whether it

1152
01:02:59.480 --> 01:03:02.119
<v Speaker 1>will be. It will not be this year. But as

1153
01:03:02.119 --> 01:03:06.000
<v Speaker 1>I mentioned the other night, they're changing the seeding, which

1154
01:03:06.079 --> 01:03:10.159
<v Speaker 1>means that the supposedly weakest of the teams that get

1155
01:03:10.199 --> 01:03:14.079
<v Speaker 1>in will not receive buys as they did this past year.

1156
01:03:14.639 --> 01:03:19.519
<v Speaker 1>But Greg Sankey was rattling some cages down at the

1157
01:03:19.599 --> 01:03:24.199
<v Speaker 1>SEC spring meetings and it caught the attention of a

1158
01:03:24.239 --> 01:03:30.880
<v Speaker 1>columnist for cbsports dot Com, Tom Fornelli, and he took

1159
01:03:30.960 --> 01:03:37.079
<v Speaker 1>note of comments that Sankie made down in Florida. Sankie

1160
01:03:37.239 --> 01:03:39.760
<v Speaker 1>doing his job, and he does it well. I remember

1161
01:03:39.760 --> 01:03:42.519
<v Speaker 1>when he was named the commissioner, we weren't sure who

1162
01:03:42.559 --> 01:03:45.599
<v Speaker 1>was going to be the next one. But he quickly

1163
01:03:46.320 --> 01:03:48.760
<v Speaker 1>showed that he was dealing from a position of strength,

1164
01:03:49.360 --> 01:03:52.519
<v Speaker 1>wasn't afraid to do so. And he has done a

1165
01:03:52.519 --> 01:03:55.559
<v Speaker 1>great job because look at what the SEC is doing

1166
01:03:55.679 --> 01:04:00.000
<v Speaker 1>now everywhere, not just football, how good basketball is now.

1167
01:04:00.920 --> 01:04:04.880
<v Speaker 1>And throughout the nca tournament there was a lot said

1168
01:04:04.920 --> 01:04:08.800
<v Speaker 1>and written about why the NCAA or I'm sorry, why

1169
01:04:08.840 --> 01:04:13.480
<v Speaker 1>the SEC has become so much better at basketball. The

1170
01:04:13.639 --> 01:04:17.880
<v Speaker 1>entrants money, it's always money, but how have they spent it?

1171
01:04:18.920 --> 01:04:24.000
<v Speaker 1>They have hired good coaches and good assistant coaches, and

1172
01:04:24.039 --> 01:04:27.119
<v Speaker 1>that's a reflection of the head coaches they hire. Schools

1173
01:04:27.119 --> 01:04:31.000
<v Speaker 1>of plowed money into facilities, and let's face it, the

1174
01:04:31.039 --> 01:04:34.920
<v Speaker 1>SEC network has provided so much money, but it wasn't

1175
01:04:34.960 --> 01:04:38.519
<v Speaker 1>all dumped into football. It went to basketball, went to

1176
01:04:38.519 --> 01:04:42.199
<v Speaker 1>women's basketball, went to baseball, went to everything. SEC is

1177
01:04:42.239 --> 01:04:47.679
<v Speaker 1>good in everything. They're spreading the money out and now

1178
01:04:48.159 --> 01:04:51.880
<v Speaker 1>it makes it tougher on the people who are trying

1179
01:04:51.880 --> 01:04:55.480
<v Speaker 1>to come up with the college football playoff recipe. And

1180
01:04:55.599 --> 01:05:03.440
<v Speaker 1>Sankee was still complaining essentially indirectly but directly about two

1181
01:05:03.480 --> 01:05:06.599
<v Speaker 1>teams that did not get into playoffs, even though it

1182
01:05:06.719 --> 01:05:10.800
<v Speaker 1>be Georgia, and he said this, it's clear that not

1183
01:05:11.119 --> 01:05:15.599
<v Speaker 1>losing becomes in many ways more important than beating the

1184
01:05:15.719 --> 01:05:19.159
<v Speaker 1>University of Georgia, which two of our teams that were

1185
01:05:19.239 --> 01:05:25.320
<v Speaker 1>left out did. All right, he's referring, of course, to Alabama,

1186
01:05:25.920 --> 01:05:31.119
<v Speaker 1>Ole Miss, South Carolina. They were three loss SEC teams

1187
01:05:32.119 --> 01:05:37.840
<v Speaker 1>left out because Indiana and SMU had better records. Okay,

1188
01:05:38.239 --> 01:05:42.320
<v Speaker 1>Alabama and ole Miss, as Fornelli points out, did beat Georgia.

1189
01:05:43.920 --> 01:05:47.119
<v Speaker 1>But in many of you knew this from last year,

1190
01:05:48.119 --> 01:05:52.440
<v Speaker 1>it's what else happened to those teams? Yeah, Alabama beat Georgia,

1191
01:05:52.719 --> 01:05:57.840
<v Speaker 1>huge game, big win. Then what happened? They lose to Vandy.

1192
01:05:58.079 --> 01:06:02.440
<v Speaker 1>All due respect to Andy year six and six. That's

1193
01:06:02.480 --> 01:06:08.000
<v Speaker 1>great for Vandy beat Alabama, huge win, but you know

1194
01:06:08.480 --> 01:06:11.519
<v Speaker 1>it is Vandy a team you hang your a win

1195
01:06:12.360 --> 01:06:15.320
<v Speaker 1>that you hang your hat on. No, and if you

1196
01:06:15.400 --> 01:06:19.400
<v Speaker 1>lose to Vandy, my gosh. So Alabama loses to Vandy

1197
01:06:19.960 --> 01:06:25.159
<v Speaker 1>and Oklahoma, which wasn't any good and in SEC games alone,

1198
01:06:25.760 --> 01:06:30.000
<v Speaker 1>those two teams combined for a three and eleven record

1199
01:06:30.360 --> 01:06:34.519
<v Speaker 1>in games not against Alabama. All right, now, you're gonna

1200
01:06:34.559 --> 01:06:37.719
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna like this one. Kentucky fans Ole Miss jumps

1201
01:06:37.800 --> 01:06:43.639
<v Speaker 1>up and beats Georgia, Lane Kiffin beats Georgia. What happened next, Well,

1202
01:06:43.639 --> 01:06:46.400
<v Speaker 1>they lose to Florida. Not bad, do you respect to

1203
01:06:46.440 --> 01:06:50.320
<v Speaker 1>my friend mister Cooperstein. Florida did finish eight and five,

1204
01:06:51.039 --> 01:06:54.320
<v Speaker 1>went three and four in SEC games, not against Ole Miss.

1205
01:06:54.360 --> 01:07:00.000
<v Speaker 1>But what killed Ole Miss? Losing to Kentucky at home?

1206
01:07:00.519 --> 01:07:05.000
<v Speaker 1>Remember that heck of a game, twenty to seventeen. The

1207
01:07:05.039 --> 01:07:09.199
<v Speaker 1>Wildcats win it, and it was the only SEC win

1208
01:07:09.280 --> 01:07:13.599
<v Speaker 1>of the year for the Wildcats, and it very likely

1209
01:07:14.320 --> 01:07:16.880
<v Speaker 1>kept oh Miss. I would say it definitely kept Ole

1210
01:07:16.880 --> 01:07:21.320
<v Speaker 1>Miss out of the playoff. It's other seven games all

1211
01:07:21.360 --> 01:07:27.119
<v Speaker 1>losses by an average of fourteen and a half points. So, yeah,

1212
01:07:27.239 --> 01:07:32.239
<v Speaker 1>you beat Georgia. Is that the golden ticket? Not this year? No,

1213
01:07:33.760 --> 01:07:37.360
<v Speaker 1>And Kentucky got to play spoiler. And you know, you

1214
01:07:37.400 --> 01:07:40.400
<v Speaker 1>look back on that game. I keep saying this, what

1215
01:07:40.599 --> 01:07:45.199
<v Speaker 1>happened to that team? Where did that team go? They fought,

1216
01:07:45.320 --> 01:07:49.280
<v Speaker 1>they clawed, they scrapped, they did not everything right, but

1217
01:07:49.360 --> 01:07:53.920
<v Speaker 1>they overcame whatever mistakes they made and out played the rebels.

1218
01:07:55.159 --> 01:07:58.320
<v Speaker 1>And this was a great day for a college football game,

1219
01:07:58.679 --> 01:08:05.519
<v Speaker 1>great crowd, weather cooperated, and Kentucky made some really big plays,

1220
01:08:05.679 --> 01:08:09.559
<v Speaker 1>so did ole Miss and the Wildcats win it and

1221
01:08:09.639 --> 01:08:16.520
<v Speaker 1>spoiled their party. Now, South Carolina played the toughest non

1222
01:08:16.560 --> 01:08:21.279
<v Speaker 1>conference game of those three and beat Clemson on the road.

1223
01:08:22.720 --> 01:08:27.000
<v Speaker 1>No bad losses for the game Cocks, but did lose

1224
01:08:27.039 --> 01:08:29.720
<v Speaker 1>to Alabama and ole Miss. So if you don't put

1225
01:08:29.760 --> 01:08:32.880
<v Speaker 1>them in the playoff, you don't put South Carolina in

1226
01:08:32.960 --> 01:08:38.560
<v Speaker 1>the playoff. But keep in mind is for Nelly pointed out,

1227
01:08:39.720 --> 01:08:44.760
<v Speaker 1>then an at large spot disappeared when Clemson won the

1228
01:08:44.760 --> 01:08:50.119
<v Speaker 1>ACC and qualified for the College Football Playoff because otherwise

1229
01:08:50.680 --> 01:08:55.239
<v Speaker 1>it was not going to go. So, yeah, Sankee's doing

1230
01:08:55.279 --> 01:09:01.199
<v Speaker 1>his job when he talks about how not losing is

1231
01:09:01.239 --> 01:09:05.760
<v Speaker 1>more important in some areas than beating a team like Georgia.

1232
01:09:06.880 --> 01:09:09.880
<v Speaker 1>But man, if you're on that committee that's looking at

1233
01:09:09.880 --> 01:09:15.159
<v Speaker 1>the big picture, you gotta look at the overall body

1234
01:09:15.159 --> 01:09:19.000
<v Speaker 1>of work. However, keep in mind Indiana went eleven and one,

1235
01:09:19.800 --> 01:09:22.119
<v Speaker 1>but still finished behind Tennessee which was ten and two

1236
01:09:22.439 --> 01:09:26.079
<v Speaker 1>and four other two loss teams, and that's why Indiana

1237
01:09:26.399 --> 01:09:28.800
<v Speaker 1>had to play Notre Dame on the road in the

1238
01:09:28.840 --> 01:09:34.960
<v Speaker 1>first round. Strength to schedule it matters, So keep an

1239
01:09:34.960 --> 01:09:37.760
<v Speaker 1>eye on his College Football Playoff, but understand, keep an

1240
01:09:37.800 --> 01:09:41.720
<v Speaker 1>ear on Greg sank. He will never stop and nor

1241
01:09:41.760 --> 01:09:45.720
<v Speaker 1>should he pushing for the sec but you got to

1242
01:09:45.760 --> 01:09:50.680
<v Speaker 1>look beyond a glittery win over a tough team like Georgia.

1243
01:09:51.319 --> 01:09:53.680
<v Speaker 1>We'll come back and again talk more Kentucky baseball on

1244
01:09:53.680 --> 01:09:55.199
<v Speaker 1>the other side of the break, hering the Big Moon

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<v Speaker 1>Sider six point thirty Wlap Welcome back to the Big

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<v Speaker 1>Blue in Side. Eric. A couple of other baseball notes

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<v Speaker 1>for you. Then we want to talk about the transfer

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<v Speaker 1>portal in football. Buddy of mine who's from Lexington who

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<v Speaker 1>now lives in Reno Nevade moved from Los Angeles to

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<v Speaker 1>Reno retirement home. Right. Well, he's a big NBA but fan,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's always bugging his wife when he's watching NBA games,

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<v Speaker 1>pointing out the UK guys. You know, there's so many

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<v Speaker 1>of them now in the league and must get tiring

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<v Speaker 1>for her. So anyhow, for whatever reason, he's not a

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<v Speaker 1>big baseball fan, but he just moved to the Reno

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<v Speaker 1>area and he dragged his wife to this minor league game,

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<v Speaker 1>Reno Aces versus Albuquerque Isotopes. So he said, we left

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<v Speaker 1>early because this guy from Albuquerque kept hitting home runs

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<v Speaker 1>and I guess it became a route I emailed him.

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<v Speaker 1>He told me the story and I emailed him back

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<v Speaker 1>and said, hey, that's a UK guy. It was Ryan Ritter.

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<v Speaker 1>You may have seen this or heard about this. But

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<v Speaker 1>Ryan Ritter, former Gold Globe I think I mentioned this,

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<v Speaker 1>former Gold Glove winning shortstop for the Wildcats, promoted to

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<v Speaker 1>Triple A. Hit three home runs in one game for

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<v Speaker 1>Albuquerque for the Topes when he was at Kentucky. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>his glove was phenomenal, but he was working on his

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<v Speaker 1>offense and he's finding his stroke now, at least in

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<v Speaker 1>the minor leagues. They ended up winning fourteen nothing. That's

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<v Speaker 1>why my buddy left early. But Ritters are now twenty

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<v Speaker 1>four years old and Reno. I'm sorry. Albuquerque is the

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<v Speaker 1>Triple A team for the Colorado Rockies book, could they

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<v Speaker 1>use some help. You might see him in the biggs

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<v Speaker 1>before this season is over. And that three home run

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<v Speaker 1>game took him to eleven straight games a hitting streak

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<v Speaker 1>with a franchise record ten straight games with an extra

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<v Speaker 1>base hit. So huge day for Ryan Ritter in front

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<v Speaker 1>of I don't know how big the crowd was in Reno,

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<v Speaker 1>but one person there was a UK grad. No idea

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<v Speaker 1>that Ritter had been a wildcat one. Another note from

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<v Speaker 1>the miners, Jack Cagleone's also getting it done. He was

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<v Speaker 1>a two way player for Florida, not a great picture

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<v Speaker 1>of what a hitter, and now playing for the Omaha

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<v Speaker 1>Storm Chasers in Salt Lake where I guess the thin

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<v Speaker 1>air may have had something to do with this. Hit

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<v Speaker 1>home runs at went one hundred and thirteen point six

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<v Speaker 1>miles per hour four hundred and ten feet. The next

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<v Speaker 1>night one hundred and eleven miles per hour exit velocity

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<v Speaker 1>four hundred and forty one feet. On Saturday, hit one

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<v Speaker 1>that was out of here at one hundred and seven

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<v Speaker 1>miles an hour. They didn't have the distance. And on

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<v Speaker 1>Sunday one hundred and eight miles an hour, four hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and fifty nine feet. That was in the first inning.

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<v Speaker 1>Then in the tenth inning hit one out one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and seven miles an hour. Kind of cool because Doug

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<v Speaker 1>Flinn and I when we did minor league baseball for

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of summers, we did games both in Omaha

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<v Speaker 1>and in Salt Lake City, two great ballparks, and boy,

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<v Speaker 1>Salt Lake City, the backdrop phenomenal, just great scenery as

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<v Speaker 1>you might expect, and we also saw the Albuquerque Isotopes,

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<v Speaker 1>not in Alberka, No, yeah, we did. We did do

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<v Speaker 1>a game in Albuquerque, and if you're a Simpsons fan,

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<v Speaker 1>you know that's the Springfield team, the Springfield Isotopes. Homer

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<v Speaker 1>works at a nuclear plant and the ballpark has statues

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<v Speaker 1>of the Simpsons all over in Albuquerque. We couldn't show

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<v Speaker 1>them on TV because we were working for CBS Sports Network,

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<v Speaker 1>and of course the rights to the Simpson owned by Fox,

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<v Speaker 1>but we could talk about it and we did. Now

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<v Speaker 1>about the portal, there's a study that was published by

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<v Speaker 1>cbssports dot com. This may effect, This may slow the

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<v Speaker 1>traffic when it comes to football players jumping into portal.

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<v Speaker 1>Elite recruits are having trouble being drafted after going through

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<v Speaker 1>the portal. Seven years of data. They've been studying and

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<v Speaker 1>they have watched as former highly coveted high school recruits

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<v Speaker 1>enter the transfer portal and they have more and more

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<v Speaker 1>trouble being drafted. They looked at the classes four seasons

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<v Speaker 1>from the twenty eighteen class and beyond three hundred seven

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<v Speaker 1>players drafted. Of those three to zero seven, only sixty

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<v Speaker 1>one of them were transfers. That's a rate of eleven

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<v Speaker 1>point four percent. Non transfers from the same top two

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<v Speaker 1>four to seven classes drafted fifty three point six percent

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<v Speaker 1>of the time. So again, the odds are if you

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<v Speaker 1>ended a portal, your odds of being drafted are much

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<v Speaker 1>lower than if you stick around. As you might expect.

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<v Speaker 1>Quarterbacks transfer far more often sixty nine point eight percent

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<v Speaker 1>of the time in those four years twenty eighteen to

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty one. Sixty four percent of the transfers wide receivers,

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<v Speaker 1>fifty nine and a half percent running backs, and so

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<v Speaker 1>on and so on. Go to cbsports dot com if

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<v Speaker 1>you want to read the whole story, and click on

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<v Speaker 1>the NCAA football But what I find interesting and a

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<v Speaker 1>little surprising was that interior offensive alignment transfer thirty seven

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<v Speaker 1>point three percent of the time, defensive tackles thirty six

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<v Speaker 1>percent of the time. You would think they would command

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<v Speaker 1>top nil dollar, but apparently they all stay put and

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<v Speaker 1>they broke it down to offensive tackles. Only thirty two

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<v Speaker 1>point five percent of those classes from twenty eighteen to

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty one were offensive tackles. No surprise about quarterbacks, right,

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<v Speaker 1>But interestingly, only two of the one they were looking

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<v Speaker 1>at the multi time transfers. Guys you transferred more than once,

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<v Speaker 1>Only two have been drafted so far from twenty eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>to twenty twenty two. Actually only two multiple transfers, and

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<v Speaker 1>one of them you saw beat the Wildcats. Tyler Shuck

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<v Speaker 1>U of L started off at Oregon, then went to

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<v Speaker 1>Texas Tech and then U of L and that's where

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<v Speaker 1>he really blossomed. But in all fairness, he stayed healthy there,

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<v Speaker 1>so much of his off the field movement was a

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<v Speaker 1>result of injuries, and then the other guys took his job.

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<v Speaker 1>Tyler Baron, who had a nice season at Miami, technically

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<v Speaker 1>transferred twice, but he did so in the same off season.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember he went from Tennessee to Louisville to Miami in

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<v Speaker 1>just five months. There's a lot of reasons to transfer.

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<v Speaker 1>Some guys transfer up, and you can look at cam Ward,

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<v Speaker 1>who is of course a big timer now quarterback started

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<v Speaker 1>off at Incarnate Word, then Washington State and then Miami.

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<v Speaker 1>In Carnate Words. One double a FCS Josh Simmons transferred

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<v Speaker 1>from San Diego State to Ohio State, basically moving up.

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<v Speaker 1>But these are the numbers, including especially i'd say, the

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<v Speaker 1>draft stuff that you gotta think every coach in America

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<v Speaker 1>is arming himself these numbers. When guys come in and say,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to hit the portal a quarterback. That's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of different. Only one guy can play quarterback, but some

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<v Speaker 1>of these other positions. Even if you are a quarterback,

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<v Speaker 1>they can pull out this research and these are like

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<v Speaker 1>elite players. The top players is rated by two four

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<v Speaker 1>to seven sports, and they can show the numbers. These

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<v Speaker 1>are the guys who are drafted, and these are the

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<v Speaker 1>guys who are not. Those are some sobering figures. If

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<v Speaker 1>you ask me finally, well, this isn't exactly the same thing,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's about a player who's going to be on

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<v Speaker 1>the move. Perhaps Aaron Rodgers has still not said anything,

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<v Speaker 1>at least as I record this, about where he's going.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody believes it'll be Pittsburgh. Somebody asked him, would you

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<v Speaker 1>ever join the Bears Bears rivals of course of my

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<v Speaker 1>beloved Packers. He said no. What he said, I believe

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<v Speaker 1>there's a team that might play in Chicago this year

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<v Speaker 1>on a road trip. I don't know, not sure. Got

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<v Speaker 1>to check it out. Well, the Steelers Jeff Drummond and

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<v Speaker 1>Keith Farmer play the Bears Seek twelve on November twenty three.

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<v Speaker 1>Seven other teams do as well, but he's just making

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<v Speaker 1>Pittsburgh weight, making him want it, and we're all getting

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<v Speaker 1>tired of it. Thanks to Chuck Cooperstein, thanks to Darren Heddrick.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it, good night for the garage and Lexington.

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<v Speaker 7>It's thrilling to meet you, Gloria. Hi. Yes, you obviously

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<v Speaker 7>have a wonderful economy with words, Gloria, I look forward

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<v Speaker 7>to your next syllable with Greek eagerness.

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<v Speaker 8>Such tact sing can think anything, then Sat thinks them

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<v Speaker 8>back to.

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<v Speaker 6>Them.

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<v Speaker 8>Don't
