WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.680 --> 00:00:05.639 Welcome to reader Syndicate three point zero, the next evolution 2 00:00:05.759 --> 00:00:09.119 of the look into counterculture that is Cannon. My name 3 00:00:09.160 --> 00:00:12.119 is Matthew, owner of Riot Seeds, and this started as 4 00:00:12.119 --> 00:00:14.800 a one man mission for strain history and breeding science. 5 00:00:15.439 --> 00:00:18.640 Over time it's evolved into something bigger, better, and more 6 00:00:18.679 --> 00:00:21.160 of a team effort. We will be joined by members 7 00:00:21.199 --> 00:00:23.800 of the can Illuminati and other friends throughout the seasons 8 00:00:24.120 --> 00:00:27.519 to hear their takes on grow techniques, breeding science, string 9 00:00:27.679 --> 00:00:30.800 history and more. Our mission is to combat the narrative 10 00:00:30.839 --> 00:00:33.799 that corporate cannabis and seed posters are obfuscating for their 11 00:00:33.799 --> 00:00:34.960 own financial benefit. 12 00:00:35.719 --> 00:00:36.840 Welcome to the underground. 13 00:00:37.560 --> 00:00:38.920 We are the syndicate. 14 00:00:42.079 --> 00:00:45.200 The videos on this channel, the Breeder Syndicate three point zero, 15 00:00:45.240 --> 00:00:48.039 are compliant with YouTube policies and does not depict or 16 00:00:48.079 --> 00:00:51.759 promote any sales or distribution of any substances. These videos 17 00:00:51.799 --> 00:00:55.399 do not violate any YouTube community guidelines and is intended 18 00:00:55.399 --> 00:00:58.640 to educate the public about historical and scientific aspects of 19 00:00:58.679 --> 00:01:03.600 hemp plants. Does not promote, idolize, nor glorify any illegal 20 00:01:03.640 --> 00:01:08.280 activities or unsaved consumption of regulated substances. We are not 21 00:01:08.400 --> 00:01:11.920 doctors or lawyers. This should be super obvious. With that said, 22 00:01:12.159 --> 00:01:14.439 some people need to be reminded about this. Do not 23 00:01:14.560 --> 00:01:17.439 take anything we say as medical or legal advice of 24 00:01:17.480 --> 00:01:19.799 any sort. We are just the best at what we do. 25 00:01:20.040 --> 00:01:20.560 Live with it. 26 00:01:21.079 --> 00:01:23.799 All content is copyright of the Breeder Syndicate three point 27 00:01:23.879 --> 00:01:26.799 zero twenty twenty four, Section one oh seven of the 28 00:01:26.840 --> 00:01:29.480 Fair Use Act. Thank you for your support. 29 00:01:33.000 --> 00:01:37.280 Hey, what's up everyone? I'm Matt. I can hear I echo? 30 00:01:38.040 --> 00:01:44.079 Do you have it a pie or is it me? Anyways, 31 00:01:44.480 --> 00:01:48.319 I'm here with Grew. We made it. We didn't make 32 00:01:48.319 --> 00:01:53.560 it last week, we're here this week. Yeah, what else 33 00:01:53.680 --> 00:01:56.560 is there? We had one of our good friends past 34 00:01:56.599 --> 00:01:59.079 so I wanted to say rest in peace to Silver Pilot. 35 00:01:59.239 --> 00:02:01.560 He was in our city. Good chat, but he was 36 00:02:01.599 --> 00:02:03.519 also a very good friend to a bunch of us, 37 00:02:03.560 --> 00:02:06.040 and there's a huge loss. So that's the first thing 38 00:02:06.079 --> 00:02:09.039 I wanted to say, since we didn't get to say 39 00:02:09.080 --> 00:02:12.680 that last week. His family has a gofund me out there. 40 00:02:13.159 --> 00:02:16.080 I'm going to link it in the description after this 41 00:02:16.479 --> 00:02:20.240 so everybody can donate if they want to. Right now, 42 00:02:20.240 --> 00:02:24.639 we're up on YouTube as well as Twitch and rumble. 43 00:02:24.800 --> 00:02:28.360 I believe I'm having a hard time seeing any of 44 00:02:28.400 --> 00:02:33.439 the Rumble comments. So Mispins, if you can let me 45 00:02:33.520 --> 00:02:36.800 know if anything comes through, any questions or anything, you 46 00:02:36.800 --> 00:02:39.080 can post it through the YouTube thing maybe in all 47 00:02:39.120 --> 00:02:42.759 the Yeah, how's your last few weeks? Screw? 48 00:02:45.759 --> 00:02:50.719 I mean it's it's all right, Just I don't know. 49 00:02:51.000 --> 00:02:54.400 It's not all right. I lost at a harvest pretty 50 00:02:54.439 --> 00:02:58.919 much almost all of ole. Yeah, and it's it's my 51 00:02:58.960 --> 00:03:04.400 own fault, you know. So what was in it? Uh, 52 00:03:06.039 --> 00:03:17.199 surying eighteen garbage clown ghost by d kim d Byrene 53 00:03:19.479 --> 00:03:31.120 a okay, amount of triangle choke and most of the Tuscan. 54 00:03:30.840 --> 00:03:33.800 Leather So Tuscan left leather. 55 00:03:34.199 --> 00:03:39.039 And lost all of the fire line too that I had. Yeah, 56 00:03:39.039 --> 00:03:42.240 I'd been flowering it for like ten weeks already. Yeah. 57 00:03:44.000 --> 00:03:46.520 Yeah, So clowns of YouTube this week? We can we 58 00:03:46.560 --> 00:03:47.680 have some clowns of YouTube. 59 00:03:47.719 --> 00:03:48.039 I can do. 60 00:03:48.159 --> 00:03:51.120 I can always do a clown of YouTube. Someone asked 61 00:03:51.159 --> 00:03:58.120 that on Rumble. All right, So we had we did 62 00:03:58.159 --> 00:04:03.159 have a chat Friday night on our discord. So people 63 00:04:03.159 --> 00:04:05.360 that are part of that got to be a part 64 00:04:05.400 --> 00:04:07.759 of that, and that was that was an interesting chat 65 00:04:07.919 --> 00:04:12.280 to say least. But you always get to hear It's 66 00:04:12.319 --> 00:04:19.000 always entertaining no matter what. It was pretty fun, funny 67 00:04:19.600 --> 00:04:23.279 and fun, and I think Screw has found his way 68 00:04:23.319 --> 00:04:23.879 to the Lord. 69 00:04:26.600 --> 00:04:31.720 Yeah, eh, how have you seen. 70 00:04:33.199 --> 00:04:35.720 Have you seen? It's only been in posts. I know 71 00:04:35.759 --> 00:04:37.680 Beer Brothers Farm put up a post but I can't 72 00:04:37.680 --> 00:04:42.759 find it. And they were talking about uh Fetterman, who 73 00:04:42.839 --> 00:04:45.560 is I don't know's he a congressman or some kind 74 00:04:45.560 --> 00:04:49.879 of shithead politician. But they're trying to push through descheduling 75 00:04:49.920 --> 00:04:52.279 cannabis completely. I don't know if you've seen this. 76 00:04:53.720 --> 00:05:00.560 No, I have not. I mean I there going on politically, 77 00:05:00.759 --> 00:05:04.959 so yeah, there, I have not seen any of that 78 00:05:06.199 --> 00:05:08.879 pop up, just with everything going on. 79 00:05:09.600 --> 00:05:12.319 Uh, there's no good sources for it. I will say, 80 00:05:12.399 --> 00:05:14.839 like great Beer Brothers, I'm not sure what their sourcing was. 81 00:05:14.959 --> 00:05:18.959 Usually they have good sourcing, but like saying and not 82 00:05:19.000 --> 00:05:20.879 talking to it on Beer Brothers because I read their 83 00:05:20.920 --> 00:05:23.920 stuff too, they do a good job. But other than that, 84 00:05:24.000 --> 00:05:27.160 like I couldn't find their source or any of the 85 00:05:27.199 --> 00:05:30.920 sources people were reposting and you know the YouTuber YouTube 86 00:05:31.560 --> 00:05:35.079 we guys were talking about. But yeah, I don't. I 87 00:05:35.120 --> 00:05:37.959 don't see the scheduling happening because that would just compete 88 00:05:38.000 --> 00:05:40.839 with all the people who are in the current cabinet 89 00:05:40.879 --> 00:05:43.879 and have donated to the current cabinet. 90 00:05:44.879 --> 00:05:51.439 Yeah, I mean, I don't know, there's there's a like, 91 00:05:51.800 --> 00:05:57.000 you know, there's a no clear path forward really because 92 00:05:57.000 --> 00:06:02.079 it's kind of been along the whole way ben a clusterfuck. 93 00:06:02.560 --> 00:06:06.079 You know. They were like, hey, when they they fucking 94 00:06:06.879 --> 00:06:10.240 made it illegal, you know, but then made tax stamps, 95 00:06:10.519 --> 00:06:13.519 and then to get the tax stamp he had to 96 00:06:13.800 --> 00:06:17.920 have the product, which this was all from my understanding, 97 00:06:17.959 --> 00:06:20.639 it was all about himp anyways, and like the guy 98 00:06:20.800 --> 00:06:23.480 turning in h like he was growing him like a 99 00:06:23.519 --> 00:06:30.120 normal fucking dude. Yeah, you know, then they made it 100 00:06:31.480 --> 00:06:34.839 legal for like a year or something like that, while 101 00:06:34.839 --> 00:06:38.199 they're doing the whole like, you know, scheduling things, setting 102 00:06:38.240 --> 00:06:40.759 that whole ship up, and then they didn't even use 103 00:06:40.839 --> 00:06:44.959 the fucking recommendation they were given or so, like every 104 00:06:45.000 --> 00:06:46.879 step of the way it's been fucked up, so I'm 105 00:06:46.920 --> 00:06:52.720 not surprised that every step forward is also fucked up. Yeah, 106 00:06:53.199 --> 00:06:57.160 what do you do at this point? Descheduling it entirely 107 00:06:59.319 --> 00:07:00.800 would be weird, and. 108 00:07:00.800 --> 00:07:04.839 I don't change because how would they want to do that? 109 00:07:05.199 --> 00:07:08.680 Then they wouldn't I mean how do you make I 110 00:07:08.680 --> 00:07:13.199 don't know, I just I don't see that happening. Yeah, 111 00:07:13.800 --> 00:07:18.519 and you know, decriminalization would probably be best, so they 112 00:07:18.519 --> 00:07:21.399 could be like, hey, we'll still arrest you if you're 113 00:07:21.439 --> 00:07:25.279 selling weed, but like you can just have it and 114 00:07:25.360 --> 00:07:27.160 you can grow it, you know, like you could have 115 00:07:27.240 --> 00:07:31.600 your own ship. That would be cool. I don't see 116 00:07:31.600 --> 00:07:35.560 that happening either though, you know, like because it's you 117 00:07:35.600 --> 00:07:39.040 can't really make money off of that, yep. So any 118 00:07:39.720 --> 00:07:42.879 they're just trying to do the best that they can 119 00:07:43.040 --> 00:07:45.560 to still you know, milk as much money of it 120 00:07:45.600 --> 00:07:49.480 as possible, which this would honestly the whole like having 121 00:07:49.519 --> 00:07:53.600 it schedule one and schedule three. Yeah, you know, makes it. 122 00:07:53.920 --> 00:07:59.680 That's kind of like you know, uh, Texas doing the 123 00:07:59.680 --> 00:08:01.959 whole fucking loophole thing. It's why a lot of the 124 00:08:02.000 --> 00:08:03.800 costs will still the rescue. They don't give a shit, 125 00:08:04.079 --> 00:08:08.120 you know, even if it legitimately is like a CBD 126 00:08:08.319 --> 00:08:09.600 style like HEMP. 127 00:08:11.759 --> 00:08:13.199 Yeah, they still. 128 00:08:12.920 --> 00:08:16.839 Get the you know, they get money from the licensing 129 00:08:16.920 --> 00:08:19.560 and all of that stuff and the rent, you know, 130 00:08:19.600 --> 00:08:22.240 like all of this stuff that involved in having the 131 00:08:22.279 --> 00:08:25.680 storefront and all of that, and they also gake money from 132 00:08:25.720 --> 00:08:29.800 fucking arresting the users and. 133 00:08:29.720 --> 00:08:34.039 The people who put into their political donation campaigns, they 134 00:08:34.120 --> 00:08:38.080 be at the top, like truly, and I when you 135 00:08:38.159 --> 00:08:40.679 have to say allegedly because they've given one point five 136 00:08:40.720 --> 00:08:44.919 billion dollars or million, now a billion or million, it 137 00:08:44.960 --> 00:08:48.519 was a lot the current administration between two years. 138 00:08:49.480 --> 00:08:51.600 Yeah, well, I think it's been made very clear. I 139 00:08:51.639 --> 00:08:56.240 don't know, uh if someone hasn't realized yet, but if 140 00:08:56.320 --> 00:08:59.399 you have money right now, you can do a lot 141 00:09:00.039 --> 00:09:04.480 with it, much more so than any other time. So 142 00:09:06.159 --> 00:09:09.879 if you don't like most of the people, most of 143 00:09:10.120 --> 00:09:13.799 not just I mean people in Weed, even the rich 144 00:09:13.840 --> 00:09:16.559 people in Weed aren't rich the way that they think 145 00:09:16.600 --> 00:09:20.279 they are, you know, like yeah, not the way that 146 00:09:20.360 --> 00:09:26.960 actual rich people are at least, And so I just 147 00:09:28.320 --> 00:09:31.240 I don't see why anyone would expect it to work 148 00:09:31.279 --> 00:09:34.399 out in their advance, you know, like, oh, you're looking 149 00:09:34.399 --> 00:09:37.720 out for me? Why broke fuck get out of here, 150 00:09:37.799 --> 00:09:39.759 you know, like you you know. 151 00:09:40.240 --> 00:09:44.679 To me, it's like the UFO people waiting for uh 152 00:09:45.480 --> 00:09:50.480 like disclosure from our government, and it's like why they're 153 00:09:50.440 --> 00:09:53.240 just gonna fucking dangle a carrot and let you keep 154 00:09:53.240 --> 00:09:54.159 walking along like. 155 00:09:54.080 --> 00:09:57.559 A yeah, bro, it made a guy go crazy, like 156 00:09:57.639 --> 00:10:01.399 on purpose, just fucking with him. Yes, Like, what makes 157 00:10:01.480 --> 00:10:05.200 you think they give a fuck about like you know 158 00:10:06.080 --> 00:10:07.919 you when of. 159 00:10:07.840 --> 00:10:13.039 My friends wrote the book Mirage Men about that and 160 00:10:13.279 --> 00:10:15.600 documentary if anybody wants to watch it. 161 00:10:15.600 --> 00:10:18.320 It's very good. Dude. It was so fucked up because like, 162 00:10:18.399 --> 00:10:23.600 obviously that guy has talent and signal intelligence. Oh yeah, yeah, 163 00:10:23.759 --> 00:10:27.080 you know, maybe try and fucking broke him in find 164 00:10:27.120 --> 00:10:30.720 that because he just found the flaw in your Yeah, 165 00:10:31.840 --> 00:10:35.519 come on, dude, no, you make him go lose his 166 00:10:35.600 --> 00:10:41.120 fucking mind over a long period of time of intentionally 167 00:10:41.120 --> 00:10:41.840 fucking with him. 168 00:10:42.399 --> 00:10:49.360 Yeah, yeah, anyways, Yeah, it's a it's a wild story. 169 00:10:49.399 --> 00:10:51.879 That guy was actually already well on his way out 170 00:10:51.960 --> 00:10:55.720 to being full on cuckoo. He was like doing reverse hypno, 171 00:10:55.759 --> 00:10:58.279 he wasn't even a hypnotist, but he was doing reverse 172 00:10:58.360 --> 00:11:02.360 hypnosis in the back of Cadillac with women. Like he 173 00:11:02.519 --> 00:11:04.679 was already pretty out there. But what's funny is the 174 00:11:04.720 --> 00:11:08.720 guy who caused all the damage that worked for the AFOSI, 175 00:11:08.840 --> 00:11:12.000 a guy named Richard Juddy. He's still hanging around like 176 00:11:12.200 --> 00:11:15.759 a turn in a punch bowl, telling stories like the 177 00:11:15.879 --> 00:11:19.080 evil guy that helped drive him nuts. Rearrange his house 178 00:11:19.519 --> 00:11:22.320 all kinds of shit. Yeah, But I mean, to me, 179 00:11:22.480 --> 00:11:27.200 I just look at a lot of the rescheduling constantly, 180 00:11:27.480 --> 00:11:32.919 constantly trying to sell people who are smokers on the 181 00:11:33.039 --> 00:11:37.320 idea that they have their back somehow is laughable. But again, 182 00:11:38.120 --> 00:11:42.600 like like I saw recently, you know, when we talk 183 00:11:42.639 --> 00:11:46.519 about stuff in Discord and wherever, a lot of people 184 00:11:46.559 --> 00:11:50.480 still think everything is one hundred legal and they don't 185 00:11:50.559 --> 00:11:54.919 get it. They really, they really truly believe that. But 186 00:11:55.000 --> 00:11:58.559 now I also am getting tons of questions about like, hey, uh, 187 00:11:58.639 --> 00:12:01.799 what's up with the band on everything coming? You know, 188 00:12:01.879 --> 00:12:04.440 the seed band And apparently they are going to be 189 00:12:04.440 --> 00:12:07.360 taken down websites and all kinds of stuff and making 190 00:12:07.399 --> 00:12:11.440 it very hard for people to access seeds. So keep 191 00:12:11.480 --> 00:12:12.759 that in mind people. 192 00:12:16.799 --> 00:12:19.279 That whole seed thing is. I feel like that's going 193 00:12:19.360 --> 00:12:23.480 to be just a fucking hamster wheel for the next 194 00:12:24.000 --> 00:12:29.399 two three years of people asking and worried and all 195 00:12:29.440 --> 00:12:29.720 of that. 196 00:12:30.440 --> 00:12:36.200 Yep, yep, it sucks. It sucks, but it's I mean, 197 00:12:36.399 --> 00:12:38.600 it's always been that for a lot of us. So 198 00:12:38.639 --> 00:12:41.840 it's like, what do you change? 199 00:12:42.559 --> 00:12:48.240 You know, you know, I sometimes think about like because like, 200 00:12:48.279 --> 00:12:52.639 in a way I was hampered living where I do geographically, 201 00:12:54.120 --> 00:12:55.840 you know, where, like I could have progressed a lot 202 00:12:55.919 --> 00:13:03.960 faster had I lived other places. Yeah, but it also, 203 00:13:05.279 --> 00:13:09.759 you know, thanks to to it, I still operate the same, 204 00:13:10.120 --> 00:13:18.279 you know way as always, So it's kind of like impervious. 205 00:13:18.879 --> 00:13:23.679 Yeah. So I was thinking about something we could add 206 00:13:23.720 --> 00:13:26.039 to the show every once in a while. And I've 207 00:13:26.039 --> 00:13:30.200 talked about are the Connoisseur on here a lot and 208 00:13:30.200 --> 00:13:32.639 and kind of my hunt for him to try to 209 00:13:32.679 --> 00:13:35.519 one track him down to see if we could get 210 00:13:35.600 --> 00:13:38.799 him to do an interview, and three like make people 211 00:13:38.799 --> 00:13:42.960 more aware of what he wrote and why he was 212 00:13:43.000 --> 00:13:46.039 so admired during the times he was, you know, admired. 213 00:13:46.759 --> 00:13:49.960 And I thought, what better way than to start out 214 00:13:49.960 --> 00:13:51.799 with some of his early articles. 215 00:13:51.759 --> 00:13:53.279 Right, And. 216 00:13:55.039 --> 00:13:59.639 I actually own these copies, so I don't where's the 217 00:13:59.679 --> 00:14:05.320 goud bannerd that says very used. Here we go, Yeah, 218 00:14:05.320 --> 00:14:07.720 there we go, very used to the transformative work that 219 00:14:07.720 --> 00:14:09.159 he's reading of some of the articles. Video is not 220 00:14:09.200 --> 00:14:11.120 simply a copy of the original, but for commenting and 221 00:14:11.159 --> 00:14:18.519 critiquing or artistically sharing information with the public. All rights reserved. Yeah, 222 00:14:19.200 --> 00:14:20.919 content is always intended for adults. 223 00:14:21.000 --> 00:14:21.399 There you go. 224 00:14:22.360 --> 00:14:27.600 So this is our the dope Conossewer. Let's see. I 225 00:14:27.679 --> 00:14:30.759 usually put the magazine it was in so people can 226 00:14:30.840 --> 00:14:34.519 reference it right here, and this is January of nineteen 227 00:14:34.639 --> 00:14:39.799 eighty there. But this article is called the Great ty 228 00:14:39.879 --> 00:14:45.679 Stick Mystery. Now, if you're thinking like back to nineteen eighty, 229 00:14:45.960 --> 00:14:48.759 I wasn't even born yet. I didn't show up until 230 00:14:49.039 --> 00:14:53.360 near the end of eighty one, so this is before 231 00:14:53.399 --> 00:14:58.159 my time. But I don't really think about like ty 232 00:14:58.240 --> 00:15:03.080 stick being lost by nineteen eighty. But apparently like it 233 00:15:03.159 --> 00:15:05.600 was very hard for people, very dialed in to find 234 00:15:05.679 --> 00:15:09.360 really good tie stick. And I don't know what's a 235 00:15:09.399 --> 00:15:11.279 good way. Should I just start reading and we call 236 00:15:11.440 --> 00:15:14.919 we comment on it, well. 237 00:15:14.759 --> 00:15:20.279 What parts, what parts stuck out to the most, or 238 00:15:20.399 --> 00:15:25.879 like because you were not around then, you know, like 239 00:15:26.559 --> 00:15:34.960 reading it now with you know, you're I guess retrospectively, 240 00:15:35.480 --> 00:15:37.759 you know, like reading it now, what is like? 241 00:15:37.879 --> 00:15:43.000 Oh hey, I think one of the most interesting things 242 00:15:43.240 --> 00:15:48.080 is that he wasn't just talking about tie sticks specifically. 243 00:15:48.120 --> 00:15:51.679 He does talk about the Mayo tribesmen, he doesn't really 244 00:15:51.759 --> 00:15:55.639 go specifically into Laosian though I don't know if Laos 245 00:15:55.799 --> 00:15:59.200 was like called Laos at the time. I mean he 246 00:15:59.200 --> 00:16:03.039 talks about Kim Vietnam, but he said the key is 247 00:16:03.080 --> 00:16:06.000 the Mayo tribesman and one of the most famous ties 248 00:16:06.159 --> 00:16:08.840 is the Mayoo tie, which I believe was in that 249 00:16:11.120 --> 00:16:16.840 uh p K had handed me some some buds. He said, 250 00:16:16.879 --> 00:16:20.720 were you know they sound like how I described Frankie 251 00:16:20.919 --> 00:16:24.120 church Epiff the h one back in the day, and 252 00:16:24.480 --> 00:16:27.960 he actually followed through with it. I wanted to mention 253 00:16:28.080 --> 00:16:32.919 that too, so shout out to nobody's nurseries. I mean, like, 254 00:16:32.919 --> 00:16:34.759 I don't really get along with the dude, but he 255 00:16:34.799 --> 00:16:38.120 did a big pop. Found this inside of Doctee's work, 256 00:16:38.159 --> 00:16:41.559 which does have some meal tie in it, So I 257 00:16:41.600 --> 00:16:45.320 thought that was very interesting. What else have we got 258 00:16:45.360 --> 00:16:50.519 in here? Well, I I guess I could start it off. Uh. 259 00:16:50.759 --> 00:16:53.720 At last I can report this is obviously are the 260 00:16:53.759 --> 00:16:59.039 dope connoisseur are talking? Ron Rosenbaum. At least I can 261 00:16:59.080 --> 00:17:01.840 report I saw the Great Tystick Mystery, a puzzle that 262 00:17:01.919 --> 00:17:04.799 is perplexed puffers for years. What did become of Thaie? 263 00:17:04.920 --> 00:17:08.839 It's a complex story involving international intrigue, revolutionary upheaviles, but 264 00:17:08.920 --> 00:17:10.759 it has a happy ending, So let's start with that. 265 00:17:11.640 --> 00:17:14.799 Strangely enough, it was in Hawaii, home of the only 266 00:17:14.839 --> 00:17:18.279 marijuana that has ever rivaled Thai. According to him, that 267 00:17:18.359 --> 00:17:21.960 I rediscovered this lost treasure of Indo China and learned 268 00:17:21.960 --> 00:17:26.160 the secret of its mysterious mid decade disappearance. So writing 269 00:17:26.160 --> 00:17:31.680 in eighty it sounds like in the mid seventies I 270 00:17:31.839 --> 00:17:36.960 took a nosedive at some point or disappeared completely, which 271 00:17:37.039 --> 00:17:39.759 was new to me. Obviously, I would assume Thaie in 272 00:17:39.839 --> 00:17:47.240 Colombian and Mexican kind of just shared the turf. Let's see, 273 00:17:47.119 --> 00:17:51.039 and when the secrets. I was relactant to home in 274 00:17:51.119 --> 00:17:53.839 the home of a wealthy local connoisseur, and he was 275 00:17:53.880 --> 00:17:56.680 treating this mainland visitor to an island by island tour 276 00:17:56.720 --> 00:17:58.920 of the cream of his statue. May announced, now I'd 277 00:17:58.920 --> 00:18:02.079 like to let you smoke something really special. By that time, 278 00:18:02.119 --> 00:18:04.279 I was so far out in deep space from the 279 00:18:04.319 --> 00:18:07.559 ConA gold and puna butter, which are our names that 280 00:18:07.640 --> 00:18:09.559 still pop up to this day. If you look at 281 00:18:09.839 --> 00:18:14.200 especially in the nineties and two thousand's, early two thousand 282 00:18:14.359 --> 00:18:16.720 seed stuff, a lot of people were saying they were 283 00:18:16.799 --> 00:18:19.799 using puna butter. A lot that was one that stuck 284 00:18:19.799 --> 00:18:22.440 around for a long time. Much less so ConA gold. 285 00:18:22.440 --> 00:18:24.960 But I think people from that era remember the name 286 00:18:25.039 --> 00:18:30.440 ConA gold. We'd begun with. But I couldn't imagine anything 287 00:18:30.440 --> 00:18:31.039 more special. 288 00:18:31.079 --> 00:18:31.519 What was it? 289 00:18:31.559 --> 00:18:35.960 I asked him Tie? He said, Tie, I scotted. I 290 00:18:36.000 --> 00:18:38.519 thought all tie was bogus. The only stuff that reaches 291 00:18:38.559 --> 00:18:41.039 the mainland is second rate. Since in me I'm masquerading 292 00:18:41.079 --> 00:18:43.279 is tie. One of my first columns a year and 293 00:18:43.319 --> 00:18:46.720 a half ago, I denounced the phony Tye scam, which 294 00:18:46.720 --> 00:18:48.200 is interesting. I need to go back and try to 295 00:18:48.200 --> 00:18:50.519 find that one. I thought this is one of the earliest, 296 00:18:51.319 --> 00:18:52.799 so a year and a half ago, so that would 297 00:18:52.799 --> 00:18:57.000 have been one of the first high times was But 298 00:18:57.240 --> 00:18:58.480 in my first columns ye and a half go, I 299 00:18:58.480 --> 00:19:01.440 announced the phony Tye scam, A sad obituary about that 300 00:19:01.480 --> 00:19:04.119 delicious smoke. I remember that column, he said. But the 301 00:19:04.119 --> 00:19:07.480 international situation has changed drastically since the new regime in 302 00:19:07.480 --> 00:19:11.720 Cambodia Vietnam, the'se upheaval. But the key is the Mayo tribesman. 303 00:19:12.839 --> 00:19:13.960 Do you have something you want to fill in? 304 00:19:16.440 --> 00:19:20.960 Uh? Well, So, during the seventies, like the mid seventies, 305 00:19:21.039 --> 00:19:30.240 like seventy three, there was an uprising in Thailand and 306 00:19:30.319 --> 00:19:33.519 it like per sit. There was a coup later on 307 00:19:33.599 --> 00:19:36.319 in the seventies, so like it was, it. 308 00:19:36.200 --> 00:19:40.319 Was still dramatic over there, political turmoil. 309 00:19:41.240 --> 00:19:43.920 Yeah, that makes sense, you know why it. 310 00:19:43.920 --> 00:19:49.519 Would have disappeared during that time, and Ar says why 311 00:19:49.599 --> 00:19:51.720 them said before I explained the politics of it all, 312 00:19:51.759 --> 00:19:53.400 Let me show you what the result has been. Five 313 00:19:53.440 --> 00:19:55.680 minutes later, he emerged from his air cooled walk in 314 00:19:55.799 --> 00:20:00.839 humidor with several glistening plastic pouches filled with thick clumps 315 00:20:00.880 --> 00:20:05.200 of green, gold and brown material. There were sticks Cola's 316 00:20:05.240 --> 00:20:08.000 Big Buds, little buds. The first thing I noticed before 317 00:20:08.079 --> 00:20:10.839 he even opened any of the sealed packets was the 318 00:20:10.920 --> 00:20:16.039 subtle gray, the subtle coloring that always that special dusky 319 00:20:16.119 --> 00:20:19.000 gray green that has always characterized. 320 00:20:18.480 --> 00:20:19.599 The very best tie. 321 00:20:19.920 --> 00:20:25.240 So in his mind, a special dusky gray green that 322 00:20:25.279 --> 00:20:26.119 would terrify me. 323 00:20:26.920 --> 00:20:31.839 It is weird, seeing like, because most of this stuff 324 00:20:31.880 --> 00:20:34.599 on the market was like, you know, just fucking like 325 00:20:34.680 --> 00:20:37.000 dried out in the field and stuff like that. That 326 00:20:37.200 --> 00:20:42.880 like that was part of the grading standards. Then was like, oh, 327 00:20:42.920 --> 00:20:46.240 I want to you know, it cures a certain kind 328 00:20:46.279 --> 00:20:48.160 of way in this area or whatever. 329 00:20:48.720 --> 00:20:52.759 Yeah, the color they were always analyzing the color, and 330 00:20:52.799 --> 00:20:55.680 I noticed that Arthur Connoisseur does that in all his articles. 331 00:20:57.480 --> 00:20:59.599 Then he opened them and with a rush of excitement, 332 00:20:59.599 --> 00:21:04.559 I sniff the pungent, musky, exotic fragrance that's peculiar to tie. 333 00:21:05.279 --> 00:21:07.920 Still I was skeptical. I was greedy for a taste, 334 00:21:07.920 --> 00:21:09.680 and almost tore the stuff out of his hands in 335 00:21:09.720 --> 00:21:11.559 my eagerness to roll up a joint. 336 00:21:12.200 --> 00:21:13.039 The very first. 337 00:21:12.839 --> 00:21:15.720 Tope flew me straight back to a room on New 338 00:21:15.759 --> 00:21:19.359 York's Greenwich Avenue, where the original Dope Taster himself first 339 00:21:19.359 --> 00:21:21.680 turned me on to the first big shipment of tie 340 00:21:21.680 --> 00:21:24.319 to reach the East coast. And who's referring to there? 341 00:21:24.359 --> 00:21:27.319 The original Dope Taster would have been who originally wrote 342 00:21:27.359 --> 00:21:30.319 as the Dope Connoisseur for High Times. But it was 343 00:21:30.319 --> 00:21:33.720 a very short lived thing. I remember the red velvet 344 00:21:33.799 --> 00:21:37.519 rug I was sitting on suddenly turning into magic carpet, 345 00:21:37.920 --> 00:21:40.640 rocketing me into new realms of thought and filling. It 346 00:21:40.680 --> 00:21:44.480 shipped me to a place no other grass grass that 347 00:21:44.599 --> 00:21:47.880 showed me. What was astonishing was the clarity of the impressions. 348 00:21:47.920 --> 00:21:50.440 I had none of the vagueness and emotional melodrama that 349 00:21:50.440 --> 00:21:52.920 can blur and call it the insights of some of 350 00:21:52.960 --> 00:21:56.000 the lesser weed highs. There was a kind of majestic 351 00:21:56.039 --> 00:22:00.839 detachment that was somehow not without compassion for distant earthly phenomena. 352 00:22:02.079 --> 00:22:04.599 I wonder what he would write about himself writing that 353 00:22:04.680 --> 00:22:10.559 kind of stuff today. Since tisticks had first become popular 354 00:22:10.559 --> 00:22:13.519 with the American gis in nearby Vietnam, it is impossible 355 00:22:13.559 --> 00:22:16.079 that it is possible that the grass was bred to 356 00:22:16.119 --> 00:22:19.440 produce a high that would afford the venerable grunt the 357 00:22:19.440 --> 00:22:22.680 maximum amount of detachment and well being in existence that 358 00:22:22.720 --> 00:22:26.440 would otherwise be intolerable. Whether or not the widespread tystick 359 00:22:26.519 --> 00:22:29.480 detachment can be blamed for the amorality of some of 360 00:22:29.519 --> 00:22:32.319 the American contact over there, which I doubt you can 361 00:22:32.359 --> 00:22:34.640 blame some of the American we. 362 00:22:37.079 --> 00:22:42.440 Whether that's retarding, Yeah, that was yeah, I mean I get, 363 00:22:42.640 --> 00:22:44.400 you know, I don't know, I get this is like, 364 00:22:45.000 --> 00:22:47.680 you know, this is nineteen eighty. It's not long after 365 00:22:48.079 --> 00:22:52.559 I don't know, people were fucking not cool about stuff, Okay, 366 00:22:52.759 --> 00:22:55.319 but like that's fucking stupid. Yeah. 367 00:22:55.440 --> 00:22:57.759 I wonder if in nineteen eighty it realized how much 368 00:22:58.519 --> 00:22:59.960 horrible shit we did over there. 369 00:23:01.119 --> 00:23:06.359 No, definitely not. Yeah, I don't think anywhere anywhere near 370 00:23:08.400 --> 00:23:12.079 or even I guess it would be probably contextualized better then, 371 00:23:12.319 --> 00:23:15.759 you know, like they probably understood that the French were 372 00:23:15.799 --> 00:23:20.400 there for you know, decades before that. You know, things 373 00:23:20.400 --> 00:23:22.640 have kind of been fucked up there since World War Two, 374 00:23:22.680 --> 00:23:25.000 and if you were growing up at a time, you 375 00:23:25.079 --> 00:23:27.680 probably heard some stuff I would assume over the news. 376 00:23:27.720 --> 00:23:31.720 But all in all, we try and paint ourselves pretty well. 377 00:23:33.000 --> 00:23:36.960 Yeah, let's see, and it talks about after the fall. 378 00:23:37.480 --> 00:23:39.880 After the nineteen seventy five fall of Saigon, not only 379 00:23:39.880 --> 00:23:43.160 did really good tie but almost all tide really began 380 00:23:43.279 --> 00:23:46.160 to disappear. The trouble my hosted explained was that the 381 00:23:46.240 --> 00:23:48.799 Mayo tribesmen left the trade and the new tie sticks 382 00:23:48.839 --> 00:23:52.400 began to be made by ties themselves. Okay, so Mayow 383 00:23:52.440 --> 00:23:55.640 wouldn't have been considered tie. Maybe they were referring to 384 00:23:55.839 --> 00:24:00.440 the Laotians because everything that I've heard about that the 385 00:24:00.559 --> 00:24:04.400 history of Thailand and they're growing. 386 00:24:04.079 --> 00:24:04.920 Of weed. 387 00:24:06.839 --> 00:24:10.720 Cast type system, was that the Laosians were the ones 388 00:24:10.759 --> 00:24:13.039 actually growing the weed and it was part of their 389 00:24:13.079 --> 00:24:14.920 culture and it was much less a part of like 390 00:24:15.039 --> 00:24:21.160 the aerodyite culture that the the Ties were trying to 391 00:24:21.200 --> 00:24:24.039 portray at that time, so they really wanted nothing to 392 00:24:24.079 --> 00:24:27.880 do with it as far as Thailand went. Said, yes, 393 00:24:27.920 --> 00:24:30.039 they had their smuggling roots for opium when he referred 394 00:24:30.039 --> 00:24:32.680 to the male tribesmen and weed through the Golden Triangle, 395 00:24:33.200 --> 00:24:35.720 and they controlled some turf in Thailand even though they 396 00:24:35.759 --> 00:24:39.200 weren't ethnic tie for complicated reasons having to do with 397 00:24:39.279 --> 00:24:42.359 the Vietnam Cambodia split and the lack of American roots 398 00:24:42.400 --> 00:24:45.279 and Saigon. And here's I don't know if it shows 399 00:24:45.359 --> 00:24:49.200 up well, but here's the picture of what little we 400 00:24:49.240 --> 00:24:56.359 can see of that. But and therefore, to get up 401 00:24:56.359 --> 00:24:59.039