Speaker 1: Five o five. If you've I k r C Detalk
Speaker 1: station Happy Friday, some say.
Speaker 2: A vacation.
Speaker 1: Yes, you could use a vacation from this Barber Streiss
Speaker 1: and happy Friday. Always happy on a Friday as well.
Speaker 1: You should be Danny Gleeson. He's in the production studio
Speaker 1: covering for the off today Joe Strecker. I don't imagine
Speaker 1: Joe's enjoying his day off, Danny. I didn't say out
Speaker 1: loud why he's off today. But it's not a vaca.
Speaker 1: It's not necessarily a vacation day. I know. Well, at
Speaker 1: least he's taken care of himself. You draw your own
Speaker 1: conclusions on what medical procedure Joe is getting done today.
Speaker 1: Eddie how I love hearing from the listeners. If you
Speaker 1: if you like to call me something you want to
Speaker 1: talk about feel free five one, three, seven, four nine
Speaker 1: fifty five hundred, eight hundred and eighty two to three
Speaker 1: talk pound five fifty on at and t found. Of course,
Speaker 1: a reminder that you need to head over at fifty
Speaker 1: five krs dot com anytime you can't listen to live
Speaker 1: or you're like, did I hear that correctly? I want
Speaker 1: to hear it again podcast page Doctor Paul Winfrey on
Speaker 1: Medicaid fraud. That was an eye opener.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you the powers that be just, and it's
Speaker 1: not Medicare for all that left is actually pushing. As
Speaker 1: doctor Paul Winfrey clearly explained, it seems as though they
Speaker 1: want to get everyone on medicaid, that massive medicaid expansion
Speaker 1: of the COVID nineteen Medicaid for all the illegal immigrants
Speaker 1: coming into the United States. No work requirement, that's something
Speaker 1: the Republicans are trying to work on. At least. I
Speaker 1: think there's some general agreement among the Republicans in Congress
Speaker 1: that yes, they will require work requirement. The only problem
Speaker 1: is they kick the can down the road to light
Speaker 1: twenty twenty nine. So they're arguing and bickering over that.
Speaker 1: Lots of arguing and bickering among the Republicans, And as
Speaker 1: we find out the Republicans, a lot of them are
Speaker 1: to blame the salt tax levels. They want to go
Speaker 1: up to eighty thousand dollars on that's from the New Jersey,
Speaker 1: New York, and California contingent Republicans. And if they don't
Speaker 1: get that eighty thousand dollars it's ten thousand right now,
Speaker 1: and they're all upset because they live in high tax states.
Speaker 1: But as it was observed, I I can't remember where
Speaker 1: I read this, but the point made a lot of
Speaker 1: people don't even make eighty thousand dollars in salary, and
Speaker 1: yet they want eighty thousand dollars worth of deductions. That's
Speaker 1: for very very wealthy people who own very very expensive homes.
Speaker 1: So there's your problem right there. Republicans are their own
Speaker 1: worst enemies, at least the middle of the road, so
Speaker 1: called Republicans that don't care about fiscal responsibility anyhow. Sorry,
Speaker 1: get that out of my system. But over the blog
Speaker 1: page two to five KC dot com really important conversation
Speaker 1: with doctor Paul Winfrey, so I recommend strong if you
Speaker 1: didn't get a chance to hear that, listen to what
Speaker 1: he had to say about medicaid, scary scary stuff. Learn
Speaker 1: from about diabetes from Tim Keller spreading the awareness about
Speaker 1: the diabetes epidemic as he refers to it, and or
Speaker 1: Secretary of State Frank LeRose was in the studio talking
Speaker 1: about a number of different topics. So that's it. You have,
Speaker 1: Caresy dot com, get your right heart media app. I're
Speaker 1: over there so you can listen to the content and
Speaker 1: stream the audio wherever you happen to be on your
Speaker 1: smart device. Coming up, it is Friday, meaning Tech Friday
Speaker 1: with Dave Hatter six thirty every Friday. Bitcoin fraud in
Speaker 1: Arizona topic number one, followed by Apple to support brain
Speaker 1: control devices. It's a brave new world we're moving into.
Speaker 1: Plus Meta's new artificial intelligence app. Those with Dave Hatter.
Speaker 1: Maybe I'll get a word or two about him. But
Speaker 1: the Chinese Communist Party infiltrating our green grid via solar panels.
Speaker 1: Todd zends er Citizen Watchdog Todd Zends or he'll be
Speaker 1: in studio the latest Citizen Watchdog podcast, which you should
Speaker 1: listen to. He really follows very closely City of Cincinnati
Speaker 1: issues and what I will call outright shenanigans. I said
Speaker 1: the city knew their maintenance fleet needed to be replaced
Speaker 1: and did nothing about it. We'll talk about Cincinnati's green
Speaker 1: energy plan, which is comical in and of itself. Plus
Speaker 1: the Hyde Parks Save Hyde Park Square project ballot initiative.
Speaker 1: He's really behind that. That's an effort to allow Hyde
Speaker 1: Park residents the opportunity to determine their own direction in
Speaker 1: so far as zoning is concerned. Get a ballot initiative,
Speaker 1: vote for it, and tell the city of Cincinnati elected
Speaker 1: officials that they should stay out of your backyard. Fast
Speaker 1: forward to eight oh five. Alyssa McClanahan, she's a local author,
Speaker 1: written a book about the Zimmer Plan. Zimmer the movement
Speaker 1: that defeated a nuclear power plan. I was looking at
Speaker 1: the notes on this because you know, I'll be honest
Speaker 1: with you, I haven't read the book, but that plan
Speaker 1: when they shut it down because of the activists and
Speaker 1: everybody that got involved in we don't want a nuclear
Speaker 1: plant in our backyard kind of stuff, it was ninety
Speaker 1: nine percent completed when they pulled the plug on it
Speaker 1: and converted it over to coal frightening stuff. That and
Speaker 1: that's old school school nuclear plants. We know that there
Speaker 1: are small modular nuclear reactors now, so maybe we could
Speaker 1: still get one of those and have abundance of power
Speaker 1: plus satisfy all of the concerns of the global warming alareness,
Speaker 1: which I don't even think they believe in it. I
Speaker 1: do believe limiting us and our ability to generate electricity
Speaker 1: is directly tied to limiting our consumption and production. They'd
Speaker 1: all like us to go move back into caves or
Speaker 1: something like that. Plus there's a law enforcement expo coming
Speaker 1: up this weekend. Should be a good time. Springdale Police
Speaker 1: Department hosting the twenty twenty five Law Enforcement Expo this
Speaker 1: Saturday between noon and three at the Springdale Community Center.
Speaker 1: Keenan Reordan's going to join the program. He's the Community
Speaker 1: Service officer with the Springdal Police Department. He'll join the
Speaker 1: program at eight thirty. Sounds like a cool time, especially
Speaker 1: for kids. They got the SWAT team, dive team, police drones,
Speaker 1: a canine demonstration, and a taser demonstration. Would you sign
Speaker 1: up to be the recipient of a taser shot there, Danny, No,
Speaker 1: he's saying no, My sister had to because she when
Speaker 1: she went through the academy for she when she joined
Speaker 1: the police department, everybody got tased. You just you have
Speaker 1: to experience it. It's like going through the tear gas room.
Speaker 1: They put you in a room full of tear gas
Speaker 1: and you got to take your gas mask off, so
Speaker 1: you know exactly what it's like and how to deal
Speaker 1: with the realities of tear gas. Because if you're a
Speaker 1: police officer, you may very well get hit with a
Speaker 1: tear gas, so it's just preparation for it. But I
Speaker 1: thought it was funny. She had a story one of
Speaker 1: her fellow police cadets I was a woman, and she
Speaker 1: actually said she enjoyed the experience. I know, I know,
Speaker 1: Danny's given me that hairy eyeball. Look. I know it's
Speaker 1: like actually told my sister, can I meet this woman anyhow?
Speaker 1: In less comical news, this is frightening Secret service now
Speaker 1: investigating FBI. A former FBI director, James Camey. He posted
Speaker 1: an Instagram photo of seashells on the beach. They were
Speaker 1: arranged in the numbers eighty six forty seven. Now you
Speaker 1: know when you eighty six something you kill it or
Speaker 1: remove it, right forty seven? I think it's an obvious
Speaker 1: reference to the current president of the United States eighty
Speaker 1: six forty seven, with the caption cool shell formation on
Speaker 1: my beach walk. He later deleted the post after everyone
Speaker 1: saw it and resulted in massive backlash from everybody, including
Speaker 1: government officials and President Trump's son. Of course, we all
Speaker 1: know someone tried to two people try to kill the president.
Speaker 1: Eighty six frequently used as a call sign for murder
Speaker 1: or getting rid of someone. Forty seven, of course reference
Speaker 1: to Donald Trump. I don't know how you can come
Speaker 1: up with any other reading of that. And why would
Speaker 1: James Comey if he didn't intend that message to go
Speaker 1: out into the world. Why would he take a picture
Speaker 1: of seashells on the beach with eighty six forty seven?
Speaker 1: Here's what he had to say after removing the post.
Speaker 1: I posted earlier a picture of some shells I saw
Speaker 1: today on a beach walk, which I assumed were a
Speaker 1: political message. I didn't realize some folks associated those numbers
Speaker 1: with violence. It never occurred to me, but I opposed
Speaker 1: violence of any kind, so I took the post down.
Speaker 1: Oh give me a break. How could you assume it
Speaker 1: was a political message? Knowing full well that you're in
Speaker 1: your life as old as you are, you know what
Speaker 1: eighty six means and only could be a political message
Speaker 1: if forty seven was interpreted as Donald Trump. If you
Speaker 1: take Donald Trump, like if Donald Trump was the forty
Speaker 1: ninth president right now, and would you take a picture
Speaker 1: of eighty six forty seven? No, it wouldn't make it,
Speaker 1: wouldn't make it. There's no context there and you couldn't
Speaker 1: interpret that as a political message unless you meant eighty
Speaker 1: six to mean remove or kill or otherwise the typical
Speaker 1: meaning and understanding of eighty six eighty six forty seven.
Speaker 1: How could that be interpreted as a political message unless
Speaker 1: that's exactly what you mean. Secret Service aware of the matter,
Speaker 1: and they will be sending and agents to investigate as
Speaker 1: well as interview Comy. Of course, Comy fired by Trump,
Speaker 1: obviously the cozy chumps. FBI Director Cash Metell acknowledged on
Speaker 1: AX the platform that agency personnel, we're in fact aware
Speaker 1: of Comy's post. We are in communication with the Secret
Speaker 1: Service and director current, he wrote. Primary jurisdiction is with
Speaker 1: a Secret Service on these matters, and we the FBI,
Speaker 1: will provide all necessary support. White House can swiftly condemn
Speaker 1: Comy's post. White House Deputy Chief of Staff Cabinet Secretary
Speaker 1: Taylor butter Wich said, while President Trump is currently on
Speaker 1: an international trip to the Middle East, the former FDI
Speaker 1: director puts out what can clearly be interpreted as a
Speaker 1: hit on the sitting president of the United States, a
Speaker 1: message etched in the sand. This is deeply concerning to
Speaker 1: all of us and is being taken seriously. One Representative
Speaker 1: Tim Burchett from Tennessee Republican said that Comy should be
Speaker 1: arrested as a consequence of this. But it must be
Speaker 1: pointed out, where is Donald Trump right? He's in the
Speaker 1: Middle East. White House Deputy chief of Staff for Legislative,
Speaker 1: Political and Public Affairs, James Blair pointed something out which
Speaker 1: seems rather obvious, a bit of a delicate time Trump
Speaker 1: traveling in the Middle East. He said, this is a
Speaker 1: clarion call from Jim Comey to terrorists and hostile regimes
Speaker 1: to kill the President of the United States as he
Speaker 1: travels in the Middle East. Any Democrat or media outlet
Speaker 1: who fails to condemn this clear incitement of violence is
Speaker 1: complicit and must be described as such. Now, can you
Speaker 1: imagine how difficult it is to maintain security in the
Speaker 1: Middle East for the president of the United States of America,
Speaker 1: someone who's been fighting terrorists and well, I mean not
Speaker 1: the only president to issue drone strikes on terrorists. They
Speaker 1: all do it these days, but not exactly a popular
Speaker 1: man among the more fundamentalist circles of Islam, and Islam
Speaker 1: is the dominant form of religion basically everywhere. Donald Trump
Speaker 1: is traveling, so you've got a massive security thing going on. Already.
Speaker 1: Secret Service hasn't exactly demonstrated its competence over the past
Speaker 1: several years, most notably the poor security Trump was given well,
Speaker 1: which almost led to his being assassinated. I don't think
Speaker 1: go over the details of that. I think all my
Speaker 1: listening audience is aware of that, but not exactly a
Speaker 1: high level of comfort in the Secret Services competence. Now,
Speaker 1: maybe things have changed now the new sheriff is back
Speaker 1: in town. Maybe they are more competent. I don't know,
Speaker 1: but all I know is it's got to be a
Speaker 1: hell of an uproad, an uphill battle to provide security.
Speaker 1: And then you have James coming with this message eighty
Speaker 1: six forty seven. This is the thing. I'm now with
Speaker 1: the representative. This thing should be condemned directly, the press
Speaker 1: secretary of this thing should be widely condemned by all
Speaker 1: because it's you know, there, but for the grace of
Speaker 1: God go I. Next time around, it could be your
Speaker 1: guy sitting in the President's seat. And I'm sure that
Speaker 1: if some right winger came out and made that post,
Speaker 1: that the whole media outlet from coast to coasts and
Speaker 1: worldwide would blow up, absolutely blow up in condemnation, calling
Speaker 1: for heads. I'm Donald J. Trump, Can I improve this message?
Speaker 1: It's five twenty one if it's about par ceed talks nations.
Speaker 1: I missed Joe Biden approving this message owned because it
Speaker 1: always resulted in a text from my life.
Speaker 2: Tell that.
Speaker 1: F Joe Biden. That would be her typical response to
Speaker 1: the morning when it used to be Joe Biden. And anyway,
Speaker 1: Donald Trump approving the message and the Democrats not real optimistic.
Speaker 1: A new poll out Associated Press Nork Center for Public
Speaker 1: Affairs Research poll thirty five percent of Democrats are very
Speaker 1: or somewhat optimistic about the future of the party. That's
Speaker 1: thirty five percent. Thirty six percent are very or somewhat
Speaker 1: pessimistic about the party's future. Now twenty nine percent are
Speaker 1: neither pessimistic nor optimistic. But that's a significant drop. Optimism
Speaker 1: for Democrats regarding the party has plunged more than twenty
Speaker 1: points since July of last year, when it was around
Speaker 1: fifty seven percent overall. In the poll conducted May first
Speaker 1: through fifth, seventeen, or eleven hundred and seventy five US adults,
Speaker 1: four percent margin of error only seventeen percent surveyed are
Speaker 1: optimistic about the future of the Democratic Party. Nearly half
Speaker 1: forty nine percent are pessimistic. Roughly a third responds and
Speaker 1: respond is neither optimistic nor pessimistic. Republicans, however, for their
Speaker 1: part half surveyed. More than half of the Republican surveyed
Speaker 1: fifty five percent are very or somewhat optimistic about the
Speaker 1: future of their party to intend, say the opposite. Another
Speaker 1: twenty percent has no feeling one way or another. So
Speaker 1: on a downhill slide there Democrats are. And I can
Speaker 1: understand that. I mean, you know, when you see polling like,
Speaker 1: for example, their position on medicaid for illegal immigrants, or
Speaker 1: position on illegal immigration generally speaking, their position on men
Speaker 1: playing against women in sports. Many within the Democrat Party
Speaker 1: and sizable numbers are not with the party elites on
Speaker 1: their positions on that. And you just kind of wonder
Speaker 1: where the more common sense elected officials are in the
Speaker 1: Democrat Party. They don't stand up to this and say whoa, whoa, whoa.
Speaker 1: Don't lump me all into that left wing progressive side
Speaker 1: of the party. I mean more traditional, say Kennedy like Democrat,
Speaker 1: which makes you a Republican these days, the party shifted
Speaker 1: so far to the left. But those voices are absent
Speaker 1: or have been silenced. Maybe they've been threatened. I don't know. Anyhow.
Speaker 1: Since it is Tech Friday, Cash Bettel, FBI director, came
Speaker 1: out with a warning talking about malicious actors impersonating senior
Speaker 1: US officials via artificial intelligence generated voice memos targeting current
Speaker 1: and former government officials. If you receive a message claiming
Speaker 1: to be from a senior US official, do not assume
Speaker 1: it's authentic, the FBI said an announcement. They say since
Speaker 1: last month, scammers have sent messages and AI generated voice
Speaker 1: messages techniques called smishing and vishing. Add that to your
Speaker 1: lexicon claiming to come from senior US officials in an
Speaker 1: effort to establish rapport before gaining access to personal accounts,
Speaker 1: the FBI said. The announcement said that, among other things,
Speaker 1: the scammers gain access to those accounts by sending their
Speaker 1: targets malicious links, which they claim will move conversations to
Speaker 1: a separate messaging platform red flag. Don't open anything. That's
Speaker 1: my default position. I've said that out loud many times,
Speaker 1: and it's the rules that I live by. An apologies
Speaker 1: to my mom, who quite often will send me links,
Speaker 1: and I just like, I really don't trust links that
Speaker 1: are sending emails from anybody anyway. By accessing the personal
Speaker 1: or government accounts, these actors then target other officials or
Speaker 1: their associates using the stolen information. So this is sort
Speaker 1: of a chain of factor, house of cards kind of thing,
Speaker 1: domino effect, I guess is the right phrase. FBI said.
Speaker 1: Contact information acquired through social engineering schemes could also be
Speaker 1: used to impersonate context, to illicit information of fun. So
Speaker 1: they fake it, you buy into it, then they get
Speaker 1: into your system, and then you are the one that's
Speaker 1: being faked in outreaching to folks with whom you're affiliated online.
Speaker 1: So just a warning it's out there and it's a
Speaker 1: growing threat every single day, which is one of the
Speaker 1: reasons I really truly appreciate Heaving. They've had her on
Speaker 1: every Friday at six thirty keeping us up to speed
Speaker 1: on this kind of thing, going on local stories or
Speaker 1: preferably phone calls. If you want to call me up,
Speaker 1: feel free steer the topic of conversation. I enjoy that
Speaker 1: five one, three, seven, four nine fifty five D eight
Speaker 1: hundred eighty two to three talk FI fifty on eight
Speaker 1: and T phones otherwise local stories. It is five point thirty,
Speaker 1: it is Friday, and a happy one to you. To
Speaker 1: send Danny the information about the eight thirty guests. We're
Speaker 1: talking about the event, the law enforcement event coming up
Speaker 1: this weekend at eight thirty. Not on the rundown, Danny.
Speaker 1: So I just sent you the phone number and information
Speaker 1: to talk to keenan order when eight thirty rolls around
Speaker 1: the community service officer with the spring Down Police Department. Great,
Speaker 1: without further ado, let's go to the phones. I got
Speaker 1: Steve on the line. Steve, thanks for calling.
Speaker 2: It.
Speaker 1: A happy Friday to.
Speaker 3: You, Happy Friday to you. A quick comment about Komy
Speaker 3: and then the real reason I'm calling is a guest
Speaker 3: you had on yesterday about consumption of sugar and I
Speaker 3: thought that was really interesting. I've talked to you a
Speaker 3: couple of times about that. Oh yeah, the thing on Komy,
Speaker 3: I don't care how tall he is, he is very childlike.
Speaker 3: I mean, the maturity levels just not there.
Speaker 1: Excellent eject.
Speaker 3: Again, you're supposed to be impartial, you were formerly the
Speaker 3: head of the FBI. I mean, it's a joke, and
Speaker 3: you don't post something seeing random numbers unless you know
Speaker 3: what it means.
Speaker 1: Of course.
Speaker 3: Now, well, if he had posts and then playing dumb
Speaker 3: like he oh, I didn't realize that, Well, maybe he
Speaker 3: should have taken the picture five minutes earlier and we
Speaker 3: could have seen his wife arranging the seashells and making
Speaker 3: that with his instruction. But you know, the main comment is,
Speaker 3: and I've got really two questions for you about about
Speaker 3: the sugar consumption. One, I know you're you know you
Speaker 3: talk about the sugar and catsup and stuff like that.
Speaker 3: Now tomato, cooked tomato, and I hope this is relevant
Speaker 3: to the other people listening, but cooked tomato, tomato sauce,
Speaker 3: tomato paste is a cancer fighter. I wonder in your mind,
Speaker 3: in your mind, does that negate whatever sugar might be
Speaker 3: in there.
Speaker 1: Well, I guess my point is, I suppose there are
Speaker 1: products out there that don't contain sugar. But if you
Speaker 1: look at like your regular Heinz ketchup bottle, it's got
Speaker 1: corn syrup in it. They added I mean, there's added sugar.
Speaker 1: And that's my problem. And that's what I cut out. Now,
Speaker 1: I didn't eliminate all sugars completely, like for example, Apple
Speaker 1: has natural sugar and I eat an apple, but the
Speaker 1: process of digestion, the fiber that is included in it,
Speaker 1: it's a slow release of the sugar. It's not this
Speaker 1: instant infusion of massive quantities of sugar like you get
Speaker 1: with this soda. It's not nearly as bad for you,
Speaker 1: or maybe arguably even good for you. So there's naturally
Speaker 1: occurring sugars and then there's ones that have been added.
Speaker 1: And if you look at all the processed foods in
Speaker 1: the world, almost everything. I mean, we had honeybagd tam
Speaker 1: at Easter, and my wife bought a bottle of that
Speaker 1: horsepadish sauce that they sell there, and I think one
Speaker 1: of the first ingredients is yes corn syrup. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I know you're getting it from all directions. So reading
Speaker 1: labels will raise your awareness on that. So there's a
Speaker 1: line on the nutrition label that'll say sugars number of grams,
Speaker 1: and then there's a lower line that says added sugars.
Speaker 1: So that's the difference between naturally occurring and then ones
Speaker 1: that have been incorporated into it by just well addition
Speaker 1: of just regular sugar. So that's what I try to avoid.
Speaker 3: Your guest yesterday was, you know, puting eating fruits. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean, so he was very much in favor of
Speaker 3: exactly the other question I have for you. And I
Speaker 3: know you went cold turkey on bread as far as
Speaker 3: I know, now what, and I know you you ventured
Speaker 3: in the sourdough or whatever, But what about like a
Speaker 3: good wheat bread that you would buy You would not
Speaker 3: consider that, I mean, is that.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, I'm no dietitian. I don't play one
Speaker 1: on radio. I just my experience for what I've read
Speaker 1: and all these nutritionis that I've been talking to. It's
Speaker 1: the processed white flour. So even the sour dough bread
Speaker 1: that I guess we're eating at home, it doesn't have
Speaker 1: any additives. It's just water and flour, uh basically, And
Speaker 1: it's the sour dough mix, which I think has some
Speaker 1: use in it anyway. So there's no chemicals, additives, preservatives,
Speaker 1: nothing in it in it. So I think it's much
Speaker 1: more nutritious for us. But as Tim Keller, the diabetes
Speaker 1: expert I had and you actually pointed out, I think
Speaker 1: it's just flower generally white flower, processed flower generally. That's
Speaker 1: the problem. So I'm not escaping it by eating sourdough bread.
Speaker 1: Except for escaping. The commercial added is that's why you know,
Speaker 1: you buy a loaf of wonderbread, you can put it
Speaker 1: in your in your cabinet to last about a month
Speaker 1: and a half, so you're got half life of plutonium.
Speaker 3: That's because that is okay, Thank you for sure for
Speaker 3: the answers, and enjoy your weekend.
Speaker 1: Hey, thanks, do you appreciate that? Yeah? Just you know, again,
Speaker 1: I'm not expert on this. I'm just I say things
Speaker 1: like this out loud for two reasons. One, by saying
Speaker 1: it out loud and telling people that I'm pursuing I'm
Speaker 1: trying to pursue a healthier diet, it keeps me on
Speaker 1: track to stick with it. It's like I don't want
Speaker 1: to walk I don't want somebody to walk over of
Speaker 1: me down the street and say, so, how's that diet going,
Speaker 1: And you know I gained all the weight that I
Speaker 1: lost back or I'm drinking sodas and eating crappy foods
Speaker 1: in my diet. So I'm committing myself by saying it.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 1: But the other component is, you know, I'm hoping other
Speaker 1: people can maybe pursue the same thing because we are
Speaker 1: an unhealthy society. That's one of the reasons why I
Speaker 1: always say I'm happy about RFKA Junior. He's elevating awareness
Speaker 1: about this, and I'm just trying to do my job.
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be preachy. I'm not trying to
Speaker 1: pat myself on the back. I mean, you know, I
Speaker 1: don't want other people to experience poor health. And if
Speaker 1: you can change your diet and feel better and improve
Speaker 1: your health that way, then you avoid a lot of
Speaker 1: additional complications down the road, because poor health can turn
Speaker 1: into obviously serious medical issues and you end up being
Speaker 1: on some pharmaceutical or something like that. Anyhow, you Fisherman,
Speaker 1: it is five forty one on any Friday, The answer
Speaker 1: is always yes, what do we do to five forty
Speaker 1: or five to forty one? Time may change. We've got
Speaker 1: some great plans going on this weekend.
Speaker 2: Hit it which.
Speaker 1: Leads us to the stack is stupid. Let us see
Speaker 1: here go to Texas, where a man's facing phony charges
Speaker 1: after he allegedly rammed into another car in a road
Speaker 1: rage incident sparked by a flying burrito. Arturo Villarreal, fifty
Speaker 1: six years old, in his car with his two granddaughters
Speaker 1: in the parking lot of a dollar Tree May nineteen,
Speaker 1: and another driver got into a confrontation that escalated. According
Speaker 1: to the news release from a local news and Constable
Speaker 1: Mark Herman's office in Harris County, deputies found that Villarial
Speaker 1: and the other driver, identified in the release only as
Speaker 1: the complaintant, exchange words in what is described as a
Speaker 1: heated spat. Villarreal then attempted to drive off when the driver.
Speaker 1: The other driver allegedly followed, then launched a burrito at
Speaker 1: the suspects car. Suspect then whipped his car around and
Speaker 1: intentionally ran the vehicle into the other driver's vehicle, causing
Speaker 1: major damages. According to the constable, villa Rao booked into
Speaker 1: the Harris County Jail felony charge of aggravated assault with
Speaker 1: a deadly weapon, bond seventy five hundred dollars. Other driver
Speaker 1: not taking it to custody despite throwing a brito, why
Speaker 1: because it did not cause any damage. In other food
Speaker 1: related attacks, we got a Nebraska or a man's behind bars
Speaker 1: on a pair of felony charges after allegedly striking a
Speaker 1: female neighbor and the woman's seven year old daughter with
Speaker 1: the Star Wars lightsaber, not food Investigators alleged that Eiden
Speaker 1: Orion White twenty five, first struck the girl while she
Speaker 1: was playing with other children in the front yard of
Speaker 1: her Auburn hump. When child's mom, Sundra Lunzmann, confronted White,
Speaker 1: he yelled at her, I'm not in the mood. Get
Speaker 1: back in your f wording house well, then allegedly charging
Speaker 1: Lousman wielding his lightsaber. Now see, if Strekker was in
Speaker 1: the booth, it would have been a phrasing. He would
Speaker 1: have said phrasing after that one. It's all just interjected
Speaker 1: right here for you, Danny. According to the Sheriff's deputy,
Speaker 1: Adrians struck Lousman on her right arm slash shoulder. Both
Speaker 1: Lunchman and her daughter said that they were in pain
Speaker 1: following the lightsaber strikes. Two neighbors speaking with police that
Speaker 1: they witnessed White hitting the victims with the lightsaber, which
Speaker 1: investigators described as being one of higher quality, three and
Speaker 1: a half feet long, constructed of metal and thick plastic.
Speaker 1: Deputy noted it could cause significant pain and injury when
Speaker 1: used to strike an individual. During questioning, White reportedly confessed
Speaker 1: to the attack, saying it was unacceptable behavior for which
Speaker 1: he wanted to apologize being cordial with the police, though
Speaker 1: White would have profaned during the police conversation. They described
Speaker 1: White as having profane and angry outburst, including him blaming
Speaker 1: the victims for a rise in his rent. He also
Speaker 1: warned of future problems for Lunsman and the child lightsaber
Speaker 1: seized by police's evidence. White charged with criminal complaint two
Speaker 1: felony assault counts, being held in lieu of a fifty
Speaker 1: thousand dollars bail. He's Louise, obviously not in front of
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Speaker 1: residentme mad of disturbing discovery for Mother's d weekend finding
Speaker 1: a stranger sleeping nude in his bed. Local news NBC
Speaker 1: four sportswriter Michael Duarte found his own ransacked late Saturday
Speaker 1: night food from his pantry and refrigerator taken out, miscellaneous
Speaker 1: items found scattered around the kitchen. He's quoted to say,
Speaker 1: my first thought, did some wild animal come into my
Speaker 1: home and damage everything? Upon closer inspection, he noticed the
Speaker 1: glass on his back door had been smashed, and that's
Speaker 1: how someone had broken in. Surveying his home, Duarte took
Speaker 1: a look into his bedroom, and that's where he saw
Speaker 1: a man sleeping in his bed. He said, to see
Speaker 1: a man not just sleeping in my bed, but completely naked,
Speaker 1: sleeping in my bed. I was shocked, like Goldilocks from
Speaker 1: the three bears and someone sleeping in my bed instead
Speaker 1: of a little bear. Following the discovery, Duarte told his friend,
Speaker 1: who was waiting in a nearby car, to call the police.
Speaker 1: Officer shut up and dressed the man and took him
Speaker 1: off to jail. Douarti said, as he was being walked
Speaker 1: away in cuffs and thrown into the back of the
Speaker 1: squad car, he was yelling to me and my friends
Speaker 1: and also at the officers. They say, as if the
Speaker 1: break in wasn't enough, the intruder helped himself to the
Speaker 1: resident's kitchen, ransacking the home in what they described as
Speaker 1: a bizarre way, the man clogged the toilet with towels,
Speaker 1: eight a box of ice cream sandwiches, eight a box
Speaker 1: of Beyond Beef burger patties, and raided to our tastesash
Speaker 1: of chewing gum. He said, I had a fresh pack
Speaker 1: with sixty inside unopened. He opened it up, chewed all
Speaker 1: of them, and then spat a big watt of gum
Speaker 1: about the size of a football. It says the intruder
Speaker 1: also killed apossum on the back patio using a statute.
Speaker 1: Neighbors said the bizarre break in left them a bit shaken.
Speaker 1: Law enforcement not released the name of the suspected intruder.
Speaker 1: The case remains under investigation. Wow we got to Charlotte,
Speaker 1: North Carolina, where the manager of a Popeyes Foo chain
Speaker 1: accused of shooting his coworker over burnt biscuits. Twenty two
Speaker 1: year old Rodney Wood arrested in charge with attempted first
Speaker 1: degree murder. Shooting happened around six pm Ay eleven at
Speaker 1: the Popeyes on South Boulevard near Carolina Pavilion. Dry witness,
Speaker 1: who was a customer at the time of the shooting,
Speaker 1: told police that the altercation stemmed from an argument between
Speaker 1: Wood and another employee because of these burnt biscuits writtiness
Speaker 1: report of that both were outside, one challenged the other,
Speaker 1: which led to a physical fight, and during that fight,
Speaker 1: would allegedly pulled the gun out, firing two rounds. Court
Speaker 1: documents state that a video taken from the steen of
Speaker 1: course there's video shows Wood's discharging his firearm twice at
Speaker 1: point blank rains, both shots hitting Wood's coworker, one in
Speaker 1: the groin, the other in the chest. That person rushed
Speaker 1: to the Atrium Health Main Hospital, life threatening condition critical injuries,
Speaker 1: underwent emergency surgery. When officer showed up, Wood was gone,
Speaker 1: but according to witnesses, police found and apprehended him within
Speaker 1: the same shopping center center. Wood claimed the coworker he
Speaker 1: allegedly shot was also a manager. Claimed the police that
Speaker 1: once he and the other manager stepped outside, he was
Speaker 1: punched in the face three times. He then allegedly fired
Speaker 1: the two warning shots that were not intended to kill.
Speaker 1: Mmmm would attempt to justify his actions, but the affidavit
Speaker 1: says he quote failed to articulate a credible eminent threat
Speaker 1: of deadly force necessary to support a self defense claim
Speaker 1: under state law. Amen Apparently, these two have been fighting
Speaker 1: in the past, which caused Wood to request a transfer
Speaker 1: to avoid working with the other employee. Okay. Winter Park, Florida,
Speaker 1: five men came forward alleging they were sexually assaulted by
Speaker 1: the owner of a winter park massage business. They accused
Speaker 1: Ronell Mikhail Guterrez Galdus, the owner of Ramich Massage and Spa,
Speaker 1: Minnesota Avenue, You're interested in showing up performing an attempt
Speaker 1: to perform sex acts on them while they were on
Speaker 1: a massage table. Glavin's charge with sexual battery and other
Speaker 1: charges in one case free on a seventeen thousand and
Speaker 1: five hundred dollars bond, pending trial. Since the initial complaint,
Speaker 1: four other men have come forward. Two of the alleged
Speaker 1: victims spoke spoke exclusively with local news w e SH.
Speaker 1: Most recent interview, man, who wished to remain anonymous, identified
Speaker 1: only as JF. Recalled he looked at me afterward, and
Speaker 1: he tried to make it like it was my fault.
Speaker 1: He said, why didn't you tell me to stop? I
Speaker 1: said I did three times. He said at no time
Speaker 1: that he invites sexual contact. Details of the ledge assault
Speaker 1: described as too graphic to share, but at some point
Speaker 1: he said, I noticed his clothes were on the floor,
Speaker 1: and after his clothes were on the floor, he got
Speaker 1: up on top of me and was completely lying on
Speaker 1: me naked, and then started trying to massage my front,
Speaker 1: my groinarya and I told him to stop, please stop.
Speaker 1: JF said, he grabbed his clothes and left the business.
Speaker 1: Another man identified his BF, said he was assaulted to
Speaker 1: old local news it was really a horrible thing that happened.
Speaker 1: After he filed initial complaint against Glavas Winter Park police
Speaker 1: arranged for him to call Glabs on a personal cell phone,
Speaker 1: and that conversation was recorded. Gutrez glabys, well, it was
Speaker 1: supposed it was a stupid thing to do, he said.
Speaker 1: After being asked, you were touching me inappropriately? Why? BF said,
Speaker 1: it made me feel really uncomfortable. Gutrez gabs, this is
Speaker 1: something that never happened before, so I apologize for that.
Speaker 1: Catching him on his own statements, BF said, what made
Speaker 1: you think you could take my underwear off and touch
Speaker 1: me inappropriately? Here's reply? Yeah, I can't explain this. I
Speaker 1: feel bad. State health departments suspended the guys besides license
Speaker 1: permanent revocation for a sexual misconduct in the practice of
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Speaker 1: Dave Hadter. We're going to talk about bitcoin fraud in Arizona,
Speaker 1: Apple supporting a brain control device, and Meta's new AI app.
Speaker 1: Todd Zenzer fast forward an Howur todds ends er citizen
Speaker 1: watchdog he is. We'll talk with Todd in studio about
Speaker 1: all the things that he exposes what I call shenanigans
Speaker 1: in the City of Cincinnati, including the city's green energy
Speaker 1: plan the city in the fact that the city knew
Speaker 1: their maintenance fleet needed to be replaced, yet did nothing
Speaker 1: about it. It's kind of an mo for the city
Speaker 1: council for the past several decades. Hyde Park Square Protect
Speaker 1: the Hyde Park Square ballot initiative. He's behind that as well,
Speaker 1: just a few of the topics with Todd in the
Speaker 1: seven o'clock hour, a toh file with local Authorlyssa McClanahan
Speaker 1: her book Zimmer the Movement that Defeated a nuclear power plant.
Speaker 1: And finally, it's a law enforcement Expo week. We'll hear
Speaker 1: from the Springdale Police Department about this big expo going on.
Speaker 1: Sounds like a great thing to take your kids too,
Speaker 1: So keenan Reordering the Community Service Officer for Springdale Police
Speaker 1: Department An eight thirty about the twenty twenty five Law
Speaker 1: Enforcement Expo. Some cool stuff going on there, including a
Speaker 1: taser demonstration. Maybe you can get in line to be
Speaker 1: the recipient of a taser five one, three, seven, four,
Speaker 1: nine fifty five hundred, eight hundred eighty two to three
Speaker 1: talk pound five fifty on AT and T phones. Just really, really,
Speaker 1: really dismayed after talking to doctor Paul Winfrey yesterday about
Speaker 1: medicaid fraud and the expansion of Medicaid, and I guess
Speaker 1: really the ultimate goal of the Democrats is to get
Speaker 1: everybody on Medicaid. That nonsense from Bernie Sanders about Medicare
Speaker 1: for all, no Medicaid for all. So and they really
Speaker 1: did expand it plus illegal immigrants on Medicaid now and
Speaker 1: not a finger being lifted by Congress and this Reconciliation
Speaker 1: bill to really do much about it. I think the
Speaker 1: work provision that they have incorporated into that bill doesn't
Speaker 1: kick in till twenty twenty nine. And you can ask
Speaker 1: yourself easily, well why why wait, it's one of the
Speaker 1: things they're arguing about, So start with some comments from
Speaker 1: rand Paul. Of course, the Senate's going to get to
Speaker 1: vote on it after the Republicans roll it out as
Speaker 1: paltry of the cuts are. He was asked about it.
Speaker 1: He was on Enough Box and friends believe it was yesterday, Yeah, yesterday,
Speaker 1: speaking with Ainsley Earhart, who inquired about the bill. He said, Senator,
Speaker 1: what do you need to see in this bill to
Speaker 1: be on board? Because it's a squeaker in terms of
Speaker 1: the number of votes they can afford to lose, and
Speaker 1: it's not that many. Senator Paul a hard no. And
Speaker 1: what he knows on this bill, he said, the problem
Speaker 1: is that it's asking conservatives like myself to raise the
Speaker 1: debt ceiling five trillion dollars. That's historic. No one's ever
Speaker 1: raised the debt so that much. It'll be a record
Speaker 1: for Congress to raise the debt five trillion dollars. But
Speaker 1: it also indicates that this year the deficit will be
Speaker 1: over two trillion, but it means they're anticipating close to
Speaker 1: three trillion fur next year. It's really a slap in
Speaker 1: the face to those of us who are excited about
Speaker 1: Elon Musk and Doge and all the cuts. Where are
Speaker 1: the cuts? He asked, if the cuts were real, why
Speaker 1: are we going to borrow five trillion? So what I
Speaker 1: propose was this, I put forward a proposal that we
Speaker 1: vote on it to raise the debt ceiling for three months,
Speaker 1: so it is still raising the debt ceiling. So I
Speaker 1: pivot over to Kim strassel op ed piece in the
Speaker 1: Journal from yesterday, Trump's moment of budget reform truth. It
Speaker 1: makes some interesting observations. Let's get Donald Trump involved here.
Speaker 1: Maybe that will help. So with House Republicans in the
Speaker 1: endgame of the reconciliation bill and at an impass, Speaker
Speaker 1: Mike Johnson may assume soon have no choice but to
Speaker 1: call in the big guns at wood Points, we'll find
Speaker 1: out if the political howartz are known as Donald J.
Speaker 1: Trump sides with his own agenda of reform in which
Speaker 1: he has already invested a significant political capital, or with
Speaker 1: the Republican Party business as usual current House do you
Speaker 1: piece standoff boils down to the usual to spend or
Speaker 1: not to spend. Today, the spenders, or as the media
Speaker 1: charitably describes them as the moderates, have run the table.
Speaker 1: Their initial demands required House leaders to set a pathetic
Speaker 1: target of one point five trillion spending cuts over the
Speaker 1: next ten years, allowing the Joe Biden spending boom to
Speaker 1: stand and grow. They then proceeded to throw up a roadblock,
Speaker 1: or throw up roadblock after roadblock in the way of
Speaker 1: even that five point trillion dollar mark. Congress remains littered
Speaker 1: with their red lines. No raining in Obamacare's Medicaid expansion,
Speaker 1: no messing with prior infrastructure spending, no serious overhaul of
Speaker 1: food assistance, no starting any real reforms until twenty twenty
Speaker 1: nine so that lawmakers have time to roll it back.
Speaker 1: To add injury to entitlement, they're demanding that any money
Speaker 1: saved over their objections be earmarked for their voters, having
Speaker 1: already run a promise that they'd get a reprieve from
Speaker 1: today's ten thousand dollars cap on deductibility of state local taxes.
Speaker 1: No amount will suffice. Double isn't good enough, nor is
Speaker 1: triple or quadruple. New York Republicans suggested this week that
Speaker 1: they might consider voting for a gepill that's GOP bill
Speaker 1: that spares the country four point five trillion in tax
Speaker 1: hikes the Trump tax hikes which this bill will extend,
Speaker 1: but only if their constituents are allowed to deduct eighty
Speaker 1: thousand dollars worth of state and local taxes from their
Speaker 1: federal returns. Most Americans don't even earn eighty thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: But the cheek that tip conservatives frustration into fury was
Speaker 1: Wednesday's additional demand from fourteen quote unquote moderates on top
Speaker 1: of their salt extortion that to eighty thousand dollars claim
Speaker 1: on top of the reform roadblocks to continue spending with
Speaker 1: abandoned on Joe Biden's Green New Deal. Virginia Representative Jen
Speaker 1: Kiggins issued the group declaration taking issue with reconciliation plans
Speaker 1: to Titan boondoggle teen credits to climate companies since clean
Speaker 1: energy matters read, continued corporate subsidies are vital for our reelection.
Speaker 1: House Republicans who still believe in limited government spending restraint
Speaker 1: have been largely overlooked in all the focus on the
Speaker 1: moderate braying their warnings largely ignored as leaders catered to
Speaker 1: the squeaky wheels of Nebraska Representative Don Bacon and New
Speaker 1: York Representative Mike Lawler. But the fiscal hawks are no
Speaker 1: less necessary to passing this bill given them mister Johnson
Speaker 1: can't lose more than three votes, and they've now more
Speaker 1: than had it. Texas Representative Chip Roy, he's been outspoken
Speaker 1: on this issue, suggested he would vote against the legislation
Speaker 1: in a planned Friday Budget Committee meeting, and he'll have
Speaker 1: company on the floor of changes aren't made, and equally
Speaker 1: fiery group of Senate Conservatives is throwing down a similar challenge.
Speaker 1: I refer you back to this day from Senator Ran
Speaker 1: Paul yesterday. These interpartied chasms may now be too wide
Speaker 1: to be bridged, which means the more likely path to
Speaker 1: a bill, if one even remains, is for one side
Speaker 1: to bend. Only one figure in the party has the
Speaker 1: political muscle to force such an outcome. The President has
Speaker 1: kept deliberately quiet in public about the state of negotiations
Speaker 1: and his own preferences. The assumption was always that he'd
Speaker 1: engage at the end when the time came to knock
Speaker 1: heads to line over formal outstanding questions. Only where does
Speaker 1: he come down? That will be the test of whether
Speaker 1: he actually believes in the reforms he promised on the
Speaker 1: campaign trail and the actions he's taken in his first months.
Speaker 1: What was the point of Elon Musk in the Department
Speaker 1: of Governmental Efficiency and the media and litigation onslaught If
Speaker 1: Congress whiffs on even the basic cuts and changes necessary
Speaker 1: to lock in Doge's work. What's the point of the
Speaker 1: president's far sighted actions to unleash America's energy If Congress
Speaker 1: is kneecapping it with distortionary renewable subsidies. Why should the
Speaker 1: president of even whether the political storm that came from
Speaker 1: stating important truths Medicaid has a lot of waste fraud
Speaker 1: work requirements should accompany welfare. The climate agenda is punishing
Speaker 1: American businesses and consumers If Republicans in Congress ultimately surrendered
Speaker 1: to the left's talking points, for Trump, standing his ground
Speaker 1: is the obvious course, especially because voters believe that he
Speaker 1: would do what he says is what won in the office.
Speaker 1: Yet don't discount the populace whisperers who seek to reduce
Speaker 1: this debate to simple vote buying. They are telling mister
Speaker 1: Trump he needs to up the salt anti to buy
Speaker 1: the New York and New Jersey House seats, to water
Speaker 1: down welfare reform, to buy more low income voters, to
Speaker 1: abandon Medicaid changes, to buy working class support. Never mind
Speaker 1: that vote buying is the Democrat Party's approach to elections,
Speaker 1: and look how that's turned out either way. Enter mister Trump.
Speaker 1: The party will needs some pushing to get this done.
Speaker 1: And watch carefully in which direction mister Trump shoves. I
Speaker 1: astute observations by Kim Strassel, so it props to her
Speaker 1: putting pen to paper and sort of summon all that up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: where will he come down? And where do we want
Speaker 1: him to come down? We are on a sinking ship.
Speaker 1: That's what I said to Congressman Messi earlier in the week.
Speaker 1: It's time to rip the band aid off. Guys, quit
Speaker 1: worried about your footibile onely jobs. There's always going to
Speaker 1: be some set of constituents out there that are going
Speaker 1: to be upset with what you do. Regardless of what
Speaker 1: you do, say no to the green energy boondoggles. And
Speaker 1: that's what they are picking and choosing the winners in
Speaker 1: the green industry to receive taxpayer dollars for products and
Speaker 1: services that none of us would ask for absent the
Speaker 1: creation of edicts and men aids from the federal government.
Speaker 1: Give us efficiency when it comes to energy production, that's
Speaker 1: all we want. We don't want the lights to go
Speaker 1: out when the wind doesn't blow, the sun doesn't shine.
Speaker 1: And we sadly find out that all of these components
Speaker 1: of the green energy grid are now being used as
Speaker 1: spying mechanism by the Chinese Communist Party, and we're supporting
Speaker 1: the Chinese economy by buying everything related to the green
Speaker 1: energy products from while China. It's crazy. They have an
Speaker 1: opportunity to stop this in its tracks. You see where
Speaker 1: the Republicans really are. And well again we know where
Speaker 1: these so called modern Republicans are. They're the ones that
Speaker 1: are staying in the way of us getting some writing
Speaker 1: of the ship in terms of our fiscal reality. Where's
Speaker 1: Donald Trump got to come down on this? Five three,
Speaker 1: seven hundred, eight hundred and eighty two to three Talk
Speaker 1: six fifty five K or detalk station. David, you're happy
Speaker 1: it's Friday. That can always count on me.
Speaker 2: I'm agree.
Speaker 5: Let's me about that one.
Speaker 1: Uh, always count on you calling in. I appreciate when
Speaker 1: you do. Got tech Friday's Day hatter coming up with
Speaker 1: in the next segment five one, three, seven, four, nine, fifty,
Speaker 1: five hundred, eight hundred eighty two to three top pound
Speaker 1: five fifty on AT and T phones. Now, yeah, it
Speaker 1: was just mentioned in Medicaid expansion and the House Republicans
Speaker 1: moving to block one point four million illegal aliens from
Speaker 1: receiving the Medicaid. This is part of the Reconciliation bill.
Speaker 1: The committee projects these one point four million illegal aliens
Speaker 1: will be removed they're already on the program, removed due
Speaker 1: to the requirements of citizenship. The all night session on
Speaker 1: Wednesday night, which was revealed yesterday, included a provision blocking
Speaker 1: anyone unable to verify their citizenship, nationality, or satisfactory immigration
Speaker 1: status from coverage. And here's where the you know, rubber
Speaker 1: meats throwd. Near every single Democrat on the committee opposed that,
Speaker 1: and some even blashing the proposal about blocking illegal aliens.
Speaker 1: Democrat Leader Hakim Jeffries ignored the requests from CNN's Will
Speaker 1: Blitzer about the cost savings from striking illegal immigrants from
Speaker 1: the tax code. Fighting it if Trump opened up Democrats
Speaker 1: to attacks that they support tax dollars going to illegal aliens,
Speaker 1: this is actually another lie in terms of what Republicans
Speaker 1: are trying to do, he said. The Congressional Budget Office
Speaker 1: has been clear that if these Medicaid cuts were to
Speaker 1: become law, approximately one fourteen million Americans will lose their healthcare.
Speaker 1: And the Republicans aren't even trying to make the argument
Speaker 1: that the overwhelming majority of those fourteen million Americans are
Speaker 1: actually citizens. Yes, those are the able bodied adults that
Speaker 1: got added to Medicaid during COVID nineteen when nobody was working.
Speaker 1: They're capable of getting a work. That's why the Republicans
Speaker 1: want a work requirement put in there. And sadly, again,
Speaker 1: as they pointed out last segment, you know that doesn't
Speaker 1: kick in until twenty twenty nine. This is after they'll
Speaker 1: have time to again repeal it. So but every Democrats
Speaker 1: in favor of that, and I go back to where
Speaker 1: the polling is even within the Democrat Party. I think
Speaker 1: you realize you're in fiscal problems here, and why are
Speaker 1: we catering to and putting all these illegal immigrants on
Speaker 1: the social social welfare safety net that is in trouble
Speaker 1: from a fiscal perspective. Bah, I hope they die on
Speaker 1: fighting that battle, I really do. I mean this is
Speaker 1: that that poll I read earlier in the program. While
Speaker 1: only one in three members are optimistic about the Democrat
Speaker 1: Party future. That's their own people, and I can understand
Speaker 1: that because within their own party they don't agree on
Speaker 1: what the far left of the Democrat Party is advocating.
Speaker 1: And how is it that the farthest left wing, the
Speaker 1: Alexandria Cazia Cortes wing, Hawking Jeffrey's wing of the party
Speaker 1: ended up emerging and dominating the conversation. There used to
Speaker 1: be some you know, moderate Democrats. I mean, we were
Speaker 1: joking about moderate Republicans standing in the way of fiscal responsibility. Well,
Speaker 1: where are the moderate Democrats standing up to this? That
Speaker 1: crap insanity the left is pushing again, like allowing men
Speaker 1: to play in women's sports, overwhelmingly rejected by the American people,
Speaker 1: Yet something that they are fighting tooth and nail over.
Speaker 1: Pyvy to go over to something completely unrelated helping Human
Speaker 1: Service Department planned to stop recommending that pregnant women, teenagers,
Speaker 1: and children get a routine COVID nineteen vaccination. Well good.
Speaker 1: I mean every day that goes by, we learn more
Speaker 1: and more about the problems associated with the RNA COVID
Speaker 1: nineteen vaccine, sterility issues, losses of pregnancies. I've had a
Speaker 1: whole bunch of guests on the program talking about this,
Speaker 1: and the information is there for all to see, and
Speaker 1: some are even accusing the pharmaceutical manufacturers of perhaps criminal
Speaker 1: behavior because they knew about the problems associated with mRNA vaccines,
Speaker 1: which they'd been working on for apparently decades, and all
Speaker 1: the failed clinical trials they had using these particular vaccines
Speaker 1: and the dangers associated with them. They rolled that thing
Speaker 1: out in virtually no time after COVID came on the
Speaker 1: map and they got an emergency use authorization to use it.
Speaker 1: I've had guests on the program who think that that
Speaker 1: perhaps was sinister and intentional. But this is a routine,
Speaker 1: This is like a flu shot kind of thing. Current
Speaker 1: guidelines from the CDC call for everyone over the age
Speaker 1: of six months to get vaccinated routinely, So there's supposed
Speaker 1: to be a shift in this report last month that
Speaker 1: Robert F. Kennedy Junior was considering a director to rescind
Speaker 1: the COVID nineteen vaccine from the federal government's list of
Speaker 1: recommended ammunisations for children. That will be rescinding it as
Speaker 1: a recommendation for even one shot. Well, let's face it,
Speaker 1: children don't die from COVID nineteen. Teens don't die from
Speaker 1: COVID nineteen, and maybe they die from the actual injection
Speaker 1: or vaccination anyway. But at such a low risk, why
Speaker 1: would you take something that is demonstrably dangerous or at
Speaker 1: least been shown to be dangerous in a sizable number
Speaker 1: of people who've received it. Why would you run a
Speaker 1: risk and get your child vaccinated for this one particular
Speaker 1: virus corn to CDC. Not a whole lot of people
Speaker 1: getting it. Just thirteen percent of children receive the latest
Speaker 1: COVID shot, No state mandates it, and in fact, twenty
Speaker 1: two states have enacted a ban on student COVID vaccine mandates.
Speaker 1: So that's the direction we're moving, folks. So just removed
Speaker 1: from the vaccine recommendation list and leave us to our
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Speaker 6: Always my pleasure to be here. By pleasure.
Speaker 1: Hey, I read about it yesterday in the Wall Street Journal.
Speaker 1: Brought it up and real quick here before we dive
Speaker 1: into the topics you gave us about. The Chinese Communist
Speaker 1: Party has an ability to communicate with our green infrastructure.
Speaker 1: The solar panels and all these other components have apparently
Speaker 1: built in software and can be put to the various purposes.
Speaker 1: They say you could hack into the systems and shut
Speaker 1: down grids. I mean it's really alarming.
Speaker 6: I agree with you wholeheartedly. I saw that break. You
Speaker 6: may recall, Brian, it hasn't been that long, and we've
Speaker 6: talked about it multiple times about Chinese electric vehicles. Yeah,
Speaker 6: and you may not this if you spend any time
Speaker 6: looking at these so called Internet of things or aka
Speaker 6: smart devices. This has been a common theme we've talked about.
Speaker 6: You know, these things all have software in them. That
Speaker 6: software and you know, hardware that the software runs on
Speaker 6: these things could.
Speaker 2: Have back doors.
Speaker 6: I think we talked about the Unitary robot from China
Speaker 6: with the back doors they found in it. And you know,
Speaker 6: my bigger point is that, yeah, anything that has sultware
Speaker 6: is potentially vulnerable, and when it's coming from an adversarial
Speaker 6: country like China, you know, that's just ups the ante.
Speaker 6: And then to see this story break. And you know,
Speaker 6: my one of my biggest concerns when you think about
Speaker 6: critical infrastructure is the power grid because it drives everything
Speaker 6: else right literally, and if you can knock out the
Speaker 6: power grid, you potentially, you know, shut down the whole country.
Speaker 6: So yeah, I think it's very concerning. I mean, I
Speaker 6: guess the good news is at this point not an
Speaker 6: enormous amount of our power is generated by soul organ
Speaker 6: There are about one hundred percent attended on that. But
Speaker 6: the bad news is it's an increasing component of the
Speaker 6: overall grid, and the idea that there would be back
Speaker 6: doors built into these things that would allow remote control,
Speaker 6: including shutting it down, is pretty disturbing. And I'll just
Speaker 6: tell people, look no further than stuck in it and
Speaker 6: what we did.
Speaker 1: To the Uranians exactly. And the article also noted how
Speaker 1: much Europe, the European Union is depended upon the solar
Speaker 1: and wind power, all of which you are impacted by
Speaker 1: this or potentially impacted by this. But if the power
Speaker 1: doesn't work, you can't trade in bitcoin either, and so
Speaker 1: we pivot over to bitcoin atm fraud in Arizona. What's
Speaker 1: the story on this one, Dave.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Well, so one last quick point on that is,
Speaker 6: you know, we this is a perfect example buying of
Speaker 6: a why we need to be skeptical about so called
Speaker 6: smart devices and they need to be thoroughly better than
Speaker 6: b We've got to reshure and start making things here
Speaker 6: so we don't have to worry about these threats, right. Yeah,
Speaker 6: So this this is a scam, and you know, it's
Speaker 6: just more of the same old thing of you know,
Speaker 6: you get some kind of text, email, phone call, whatever.
Speaker 6: Scammers will come at you and whatever media they can
Speaker 6: find you in and then tell you you know where
Speaker 6: the FBI, where the I R S, where your local
Speaker 6: sheriff's office, whatever, and you know you've got to find
Speaker 6: a warrant fill in the blank. And then they want
Speaker 6: to send you to an at that can issue bitcoin
Speaker 6: so that you can exchange your cash or credit for
Speaker 6: bitcoin and send the bitcoin.
Speaker 1: Yeah, people still fall for that.
Speaker 6: Apparently they do. Apparently there's you know, there's a lot
Speaker 6: of reporting out of Arizona. You know, there aren't that
Speaker 6: many bitcoin based ATMs around, but there are out there,
Speaker 6: and they're not too hard to find.
Speaker 1: The point being though, what no agency in government that
Speaker 1: has that level of authority would ask you to go
Speaker 1: over and get bitcoin out through an online transaction to
Speaker 1: pay off this alleged fine. I mean, that's the laughable
Speaker 1: part about it. No, they won't do that.
Speaker 6: I agree with you. I don't understand how it is
Speaker 6: that people don't get that yet, and that, I mean
Speaker 6: just just the ridiculousness of the whole thing. You know,
Speaker 6: you have a problem fill in the blank of problem,
Speaker 6: and some bad thing is going to happen, you know,
Speaker 6: fill in the blank if you don't get bitcoin or
Speaker 6: fill in the blank in this case bitcoin by a
Speaker 6: certain time. Yeah, I'll just encourage everyone that can hear
Speaker 6: us talking this morning go to the I r S
Speaker 6: website i r S dot gov and see what they
Speaker 6: say about how they will contact you. They will not
Speaker 6: call you, they will not email you, they will not
Speaker 6: text you and tell you that you have back taxes.
Speaker 6: But hey, everything will be fine if you just go
Speaker 6: get some bitcoins and they won't do that.
Speaker 1: You know, maybe it's a state of ignorance brought about
Speaker 1: by our failing education system. Dave, I don't know. I'm
Speaker 1: left in I'm just left to wonder about that, you know.
Speaker 1: And I feel for most most notably seniors who can't
Speaker 1: stay up with technology and think that this may be
Speaker 1: a real thing.
Speaker 6: Now, Yeah, it's it's hard to understand. And you know,
Speaker 6: the best advice is always be skeptical and to the
Speaker 6: extent you can stay aware of these scams. The next
Speaker 6: best advice is to understand, no legitimate government agency is
Speaker 6: going to send you to an APM to get bitcoin
Speaker 6: or paying gift cards or anything like that. And do
Speaker 6: you have any doubt about that. Yeah, you know, if
Speaker 6: you have any doubt about something like that, go out
Speaker 6: of band you go. Let's let's say it's the Kenton
Speaker 6: County Chrieff's office that's telling you there's a warrant and
Speaker 6: you're gonna get arrested. If you don't send a bigtoy
Speaker 6: you go.
Speaker 1: That's not how you get out of warrants for a rest.
Speaker 1: It's got to be adjudicated in court. Red flags, red flags,
Speaker 1: you know what, just ignore them completely. If it's legitimate,
Speaker 1: they will come knocking on your front door. If it's
Speaker 1: a law enforcement related issue, or if it's the case
Speaker 1: the irs, you will get a hard copy piece of
Speaker 1: paper delivered in the mail. Let's pause, we'll bring we'll
Speaker 1: bring Dave back.
Speaker 6: Then you go there and talk to him in person
Speaker 6: or call him on a number you could verify, right,
Speaker 6: and they'll tell you it's a scam.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they will so confirm your suspicions. Run with your suspicions.
Speaker 1: We'll bring you back. Apple supporting brain control devices. This
Speaker 1: is frightening stuff. Brave new world we are facing. That's
Speaker 1: next without their city talk station, introest it dot com,
Speaker 1: that's where you find tech Fuddy Dave Hatter Dave, I'm
Speaker 1: going to be a hard no on this one. There
Speaker 1: is no way I'm getting a brain implant.
Speaker 6: Well, Brian, I'm going to be a hard right there
Speaker 6: with you.
Speaker 1: Hey, count on you.
Speaker 6: So let's uh, let's go back to the last story,
Speaker 6: or really where we started with the Chinese Communist Party
Speaker 6: backdoors in the solar panels. Okay, how long have we
Speaker 6: been doing the show, Brian? A long time?
Speaker 1: Right, yes?
Speaker 6: And how many? How many times have we talked about
Speaker 6: some kind of software of vulnerability that creates a problem
Speaker 6: a lot because hackers get exploited. Now do you really
Speaker 6: think do you really think where we're at today? I'm
Speaker 6: not saying there might not time of time one hundred
Speaker 6: years from now when something like this would be a
Speaker 6: lot more difficult to hack. But if you think that
Speaker 6: some where we're at today, you could have one hundred
Speaker 6: percent trust that some sort of brings implant could not
Speaker 6: be hacked somehow to either make you do things you
Speaker 6: don't want to do. And again, I'm not a neuroscientist.
Speaker 6: I don't know that much about exactly what they're doing
Speaker 6: other than they're trying to build an interface between you know,
Speaker 6: directly between your brain and external devices like neuralink, and
Speaker 6: in this case, Apple is working with a company called
Speaker 6: synchron But yeah, with this, I just I have to
Speaker 6: keep reiterating to people all the time. One of the
Speaker 6: reasons why we're in the best we're in with all
Speaker 6: this technology is because this stuff is still fairly immature
Speaker 6: in the history of the human race, right. I mean
Speaker 6: it's really only been maybe fifty years since you've had
Speaker 6: widespread use of technology, and really, you know, thirty years
Speaker 6: since the Internet and everything has turned digital. All of
Speaker 6: the technology that makes everything work and it's Internet related
Speaker 6: is all really old. It was designed in the late
Speaker 6: sixties and early seventies for the most part. And security, privacy,
Speaker 6: all these things we care about today. Because everything is
Speaker 6: digital and because these tech people want to connect directly
Speaker 6: to your brain, we're designed without security in mind, and
Speaker 6: thus we have inherently insecure underlying technologies. You've got to
Speaker 6: do all this stuff to try to secure it. And
Speaker 6: you know, I could we could do hours of talking
Speaker 6: about vulnerabilities found in various products and the Internet of
Speaker 6: things in particular. So this becomes the ultimate Internet of things, right,
Speaker 6: because you become an object in the Internet of things,
Speaker 6: if you have some sort of brain implant that allows
Speaker 6: you to interface directly with these external devices. And yeah,
Speaker 6: I'm like you, I'm a hard knowing this. I understand
Speaker 6: what they purportedly claim. The rationale for this is, you know,
Speaker 6: it's going to let people who have some sort of
Speaker 6: disability interact with their devices live in more normal life.
Speaker 6: See again here again, et cetera. Right, But yeah, we're
Speaker 6: just out of place where there is no way I
Speaker 6: would trust something like this. And if you every day
Speaker 6: here in the recent past, as we become more and
Speaker 6: more dependent on this stuff, you see more and more
Speaker 6: examples where researchers find a flaw on this. There's a
Speaker 6: problem with that. Oh look, here's another thing that came
Speaker 6: from China that seems to have some sort of vulnerability
Speaker 6: or backdoor in it. Not a chance I would do
Speaker 6: something like this.
Speaker 1: The brain ship would convince you that the Chinese Communist
Speaker 1: Party philosophy of politics is a good thing.
Speaker 6: Well maybe, again, I'm no neuroscientists. I don't know, you know,
Speaker 6: if I would just say this, I mean again, not
Speaker 6: a scientist operating at this level. I'm just a dumb
Speaker 6: programmer that tries to tell people to protect their assets
Speaker 6: and be aware of and take these things seriously. But
Speaker 6: you know, if I can send a signal to the
Speaker 6: device and make it do something, and it does something, well,
Speaker 6: it has to send that feedback to me. Now, I
Speaker 6: guess if I have fight, I could see that and
Speaker 6: potentially act accordingly. But if I'm blind, it would have
Speaker 6: to be able to send some kind of signal back
Speaker 6: to my brain to tell me that it did it,
Speaker 6: and they wait for the next step, right, So there
Speaker 6: would have to be at least some sort of two
Speaker 6: way communication and knowing that, yeah, not a chance I
Speaker 6: would do that.
Speaker 1: No, you know, they think about it. They have to
Speaker 1: get volunteers to try this stuff out to see if
Speaker 1: it works. I mean, you could put a neuro chip
Speaker 1: in a mouse, but I don't know how they would
Speaker 1: test the performance of any given measure by that mouse
Speaker 1: to do something by just thinking about it. But at
Speaker 1: one point, you know, there's always some idiot that's willing
Speaker 1: to say I'll do it. I'll do it. There's a
Speaker 1: first for everything. That would not be the let's.
Speaker 6: Uh, yeah, I will be here, the last.
Speaker 1: On that list when they order you at point of
Speaker 1: a gun to do it six if you want, if
Speaker 1: you have KCD talk station. Bryan Tomas, along with Dave
Speaker 1: Hatter and thanks to his up an interrust it for
Speaker 1: sponsor in a segment of passling all this information. And
Speaker 1: I note the article that you attached to this Zuckerberg
Speaker 1: Surreal New AI app author Adam SD's I think he
Speaker 1: shares your view of meta generally speaking.
Speaker 6: Well, yes, a dim one at best. But I want
Speaker 6: to back into this because of the sort of the
Speaker 6: ridiculousness of it all. And again, Brian, I can only
Speaker 6: level set here by sayings there may come a time,
Speaker 6: at some future point when all of this stuff is
Speaker 6: much more mature, and I would have a lot more
Speaker 6: confidence in it because all the security flaws are fixed
Speaker 6: and the privacy concerns are addressed, and we live in
Speaker 6: a beautiful world like Star Trek where you can just
Speaker 6: talk to the computer and everything as swell right yeap.
Speaker 6: That is not our world today. So let me here's
Speaker 6: a headline. The disturbing message is shared between AI chatbot
Speaker 6: and teams who took.
Speaker 1: His own life.
Speaker 6: And again I'll post all this in my notes if
Speaker 6: you read this. Here's just I want to just touch
Speaker 6: on this and then get back to the mad thing.
Speaker 6: So when I started using Character AI in April twenty
Speaker 6: twenty three, shortly after he turned fourteen, and the months
Speaker 6: to followed, the team became noticeably withdrawal with grow from
Speaker 6: school and extracurricuters and started spending more and more time online.
Speaker 6: His time on Character AI grew to harmful dependency, to
Speaker 6: suit state. So there's a lawsuit because this kid was
Speaker 6: talking to Danaris Targon or I don't know, some character
Speaker 6: from Game of Thrones which I did not watch. He's
Speaker 6: in love with this thing. You can read all of
Speaker 6: this feedback between him and this AI bot that's telling
Speaker 6: him that it loves him and blah blah blah. It's
Speaker 6: really super disturbing if you dig into this a bit.
Speaker 6: Here's another headline related to it. Boy fourteen sell in
Speaker 6: love with Game with Thrones chatbot and kill himself after
Speaker 6: AI app told him to quote come home to her.
Speaker 6: And there's screenshots of all this stuff. Okay, but yeah again,
Speaker 6: I'll put this in the notes and maybe we dig
Speaker 6: into this particular thing. It's super disturbing and people really
Speaker 6: need to talk to their kids. It's a machine. It's
Speaker 6: not your friend. Now that gets this back there where
Speaker 6: we started. Mark Zuckerberg envisions the future where your friends
Speaker 6: are AI chatbots. There's another related headline once Zuckerberg is
Speaker 6: missing on AI and loneliness, and you know, several interviews
Speaker 6: recently he's talked about this. He's wearing these crazy glasses,
Speaker 6: which I think are the new ray band glasses, which
Speaker 6: they've conveniently built so that you know, while you're talking
Speaker 6: to someone, they can scan your face and learn about
Speaker 6: you and report your conversations and every other sort of
Speaker 6: dystopian proelian thing you could possibly imagine. But he gets
Speaker 6: into this idea that Americans only have three friends, and
Speaker 6: so I'm going to read a direct note to the
Speaker 6: average American I think has fewer than three friends, three
Speaker 6: people they consider friends, and the average person has demand
Speaker 6: for meaningly more. I think it's like fifteen friends. And
Speaker 6: you know, the idea is here that the meta AI,
Speaker 6: as opposed to the open AIAI or Google or fill
Speaker 6: in the blank rock from X, it's going to become
Speaker 6: your friend. You know, don't don't reinvest in communities, don't
Speaker 6: build things for human beings can interact with each other. Now,
Speaker 6: just get on the line and talk to Denarius, car
Speaker 6: gun or whatever, and you know, then eventually you'll kill yourself.
Speaker 6: I guess allegedly purportedly, it's I don't know, man, this
Speaker 6: this stuff that is so insane, And I guess the
Speaker 6: takeaway for me is, you know a lot of these
Speaker 6: AI tools can be very helpful in a lot of ways,
Speaker 6: but they're not your friend. And you know, if you
Speaker 6: think you have a meaningful relationship with some AI you're
Speaker 6: talking to online, I would ask you to step back
Speaker 6: and question that. You know, and we really need to
Speaker 6: be talking to our kids about.
Speaker 1: This, amen. You know, I suppose that this this is
Speaker 1: more of a problem for folks who are already struggling
Speaker 1: with some sort of I don't know, diagnosable mental health problem,
Speaker 1: because I mean, I spring from the proposition that I
Speaker 1: know that this is not that character from gain Thrones,
Speaker 1: because that is a fictional character. And then I'm dealing
Speaker 1: with something that is computer generated. So how could I
Speaker 1: possibly go down the rabbit hole of taking what that
Speaker 1: particular generated text or communication is serious or in some way,
Speaker 1: shape or form actually real. I just I could never
Speaker 1: get over that. I mean, I'm talking to a robot basically,
Speaker 1: I know what I'm talking with. This isn't a human
Speaker 1: being capable of emotion or you know, being honest with
Speaker 1: me or anything like that. It's just I don't know.
Speaker 1: You You got to take into a step into a
Speaker 1: different realm to to fall into the belief that you're
Speaker 1: actually talking with something that is substantive and genuine.
Speaker 6: So let me hit you with another quote here real quick,
Speaker 6: for aunt of time. For people who don't have a therapist,
Speaker 6: I think everyone will have an AI, Zuckerberg said in
Speaker 6: a separate podcast. You know they already want to know
Speaker 6: everything there is to know about you to manipulate you,
Speaker 6: at least from a marketing purpose. Forget whatever else. Yeah,
Speaker 6: whatever else has been left. We already know your data
Speaker 6: is leaked and stolen all the time. Yeah, can you imagine.
Speaker 6: I mean, at least when you talk to a live therapist, right,
Speaker 6: there are rules around what they can disclose. Now you're
Speaker 6: telling your deepest, darkest secrets in this AI. That's capturing
Speaker 6: all that and stintly sharing it with any unknown third parties. Crazy.
Speaker 6: Absolutely are not ready for this. The technology is not
Speaker 6: ready for it, people are not ready for it. We
Speaker 6: really need to as people slow roll this it's getting
Speaker 6: out of hand.
Speaker 1: Amen, brother, appreciate all that you do for the listening
Speaker 1: audience keeping them aware of this and the most notably
Speaker 1: the dangers associated with this tech world we live in.
Speaker 1: Tune in next Friday for another edition to Tech Friday
Speaker 1: with Dave Hadder. Thanks again to interrust it Online at
Speaker 1: intrust it dot com. Dave, you have a wonderful weekend,
Speaker 1: my friend.
Speaker 6: Thanks bying you to talk to you.
Speaker 1: Then, Yes, Sir, coming up on six fifty seven and
Speaker 1: after the top of their news Toddsen's or Citizen Watchdog.
Speaker 1: He'll be in studio going over all kinds of issues
Speaker 1: related to what I will call Shenanigan's the city of Cincinnati,
Speaker 1: plus the signed the Hyde Park Square ballot initiative that's
Speaker 1: being circulated as well, and he's behind that effort. So
Speaker 1: Todd Enzer up next. It's seven oh five here a
Speaker 1: fifty five kir CD talk station. Love when guests are
Speaker 1: in studio, and I love talking to todds Zenser even
Speaker 1: though the content we've always revealed Shenanigans most literally in
Speaker 1: the city of Cincinnati. He is the citizen watchdog and
Speaker 1: the citizens of the city of Cincinnati. I think go
Speaker 1: you a debt of gratitude for the work that you
Speaker 1: do and your focus and your willingness to stick at
Speaker 1: something and look behind all the look at all the
Speaker 1: details and the documents behind the scene to point out
Speaker 1: the mismanagement of basically finances and well the government generally speaking.
Speaker 1: Good to have you back in studio, Todd Zenzer, Thank you, Brian,
Speaker 1: good morning, good morning. And you can get his podcasts
Speaker 1: where you get your podcast Citizen Watchdog Citizen Watchdog podcast
Speaker 1: where he goes into detail about all these things he reveals.
Speaker 1: Let's start with I know you're behind and helping assist
Speaker 1: with getting signatures for the Save Hyde Park Square ballot initiative,
Speaker 1: which is a referendum to nullify the council's April twenty
Speaker 1: third decision depriving the residents of the Hyde Park area
Speaker 1: from their rights to control their destiny in terms of zoning.
Speaker 1: And I had the guy who was I can't remember
Speaker 1: what the name of the site was, but he has
Speaker 1: the depictions of what this monstrosity hotel and all this
Speaker 1: upgrades will look like, and it just looms so large
Speaker 1: over the existing high you have to see it to
Speaker 1: fully understand it. I mean, because if you hears someone
Speaker 1: talking about, well, the elevation is only going to go
Speaker 1: up in an X number of feet, but when you
Speaker 1: see what that's going to mean for the look of
Speaker 1: Hyde Park Square, it's like, oh my lord, it's bad.
Speaker 5: Of the the witnesses at that I don't know if
Speaker 5: it was at the council meeting or at the Planning
Speaker 5: Commission said imagine if you've ever ever been to.
Speaker 1: The arc exhibit yeah in Kentucky.
Speaker 5: Yeah, she said, imagine that arc sitting on Hyde Park Square.
Speaker 5: That's what she described it as.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, that is a really great way of describing it,
Speaker 1: because that thing is just monstrous.
Speaker 5: Yeah. So that's what they're that's what they're looking at.
Speaker 5: And this is this is a true petition drive. This
Speaker 5: isn't just for you know, for show. They're actually out
Speaker 5: there gathering signatures on petitions.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And from my conversation with you off air before we
Speaker 1: started this morning, there are you've already got thousands of
Speaker 1: signatures on this petition.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they're making progress great.
Speaker 1: And my understanding is you've got to have a minimum
Speaker 1: of ten thousand, but you want to get a lot
Speaker 1: more than that because some of the signatures get thrown
Speaker 1: out like someone else that lives outside of the city
Speaker 1: signs it and that won't count exactly. All right. So
Speaker 1: you've been around town doing signature gathering and I understand
Speaker 1: you've got some some events coming up and locations where
Speaker 1: the petition can be signed.
Speaker 5: Yes, the next one is tomorrow afternoon in pleasant Ridge
Speaker 5: from two to five pm at the Nine Giant Brewery
Speaker 5: on Montgomery Road.
Speaker 1: Nine Giant Brewery, sixty ninety five Montgomery Road between two
Speaker 1: and five pm. Stop on end. You don't have to
Speaker 1: have a beer, but why wouldn't you and sign the petition.
Speaker 1: And now there are people walking around downtown and hanging
Speaker 1: out in dives and places like that to get these signatures.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the Hyde Park citizens have mobilized in a big way.
Speaker 5: Good and yeah, they're all over the place.
Speaker 1: Well, and there's an incentive for people who don't aren't
Speaker 1: impacted by the Hyde Park development. It's just because again,
Speaker 1: the right to control your own neighborhood, your own your
Speaker 1: own community. They're all different. I mean, there's a lot
Speaker 1: of different communities in the Citi. Sin say, the Bond
Speaker 1: Hill was the victim of this kind of thing, and
Speaker 1: so Bond hill residents because they got burned by since
Speaker 1: they council trumping what they wanted. Well, get out there
Speaker 1: and sign the petition.
Speaker 5: Absolutely, and it's not it's not going to stop. There's
Speaker 5: there's a new initiative now that the city is coming
Speaker 5: up with where they want to rezone our hillsides so
Speaker 5: that they can develop our hillsides. It's called the Hillside Initiative.
Speaker 5: The hillsides are I don't I haven't looked a lot
Speaker 5: into it yet, but there's a Hillside Trust that basically
Speaker 5: is responsible for preserving all these hillsides, and the city
Speaker 5: is out there engaging in community engagement asking people not
Speaker 5: whether or not we should develop the hillsides, what would
Speaker 5: you like to see developed on the hillsides. That's how
Speaker 5: they operate. They start from.
Speaker 1: That foregone conclusion that this will happen. So here's give
Speaker 1: me your input exactly.
Speaker 5: And it's very important that people pay attention. This is
Speaker 5: another sneak attack, just like connected communities, and we really
Speaker 5: need to pay attention to what's going on here. We're
Speaker 5: going to we're going to lose our hillsides to developers. Next.
Speaker 1: Okay, well, what does it mean to develop the Hillsides anyway,
Speaker 1: what of their proposals for it.
Speaker 5: They'll put housing or they'll put you know.
Speaker 1: These connected communities focused like small multi unit buildings and things.
Speaker 5: That's the thing. They haven't really shown their card yet.
Speaker 5: They're out there asking the public about it, but they
Speaker 5: haven't really shown their cards yet. But the Hillsides, from
Speaker 5: what I understand, make up like twenty percent of the
Speaker 5: land in the city. So they want to go after
Speaker 5: that and open it up to development.
Speaker 1: So are they going to bring back inclines then, because
Speaker 1: they don't want us drive in cars.
Speaker 5: I would love to see the price ill in client
Speaker 5: come back, but that's not going to happen.
Speaker 1: Just for nostalgia a proprix exactly like San Francisco's street
Speaker 1: car is not exactly the best mode of community a
Speaker 1: mode of transportation. But it's cute to see.
Speaker 5: But it's the folks in Hyde Park Square are out there.
Speaker 5: You know, they're they're doing work for all of us
Speaker 5: on this petition drive.
Speaker 1: I agree, And let's face it, every single neighbor in
Speaker 1: the city of Cincinnati was a victim of this when
Speaker 1: they foisted connected communities without everybody, without hearing from people.
Speaker 1: That's right, so it's been done to everyone, and then
Speaker 1: they go and give a waiver for these well connected developers.
Speaker 1: A phrase I got for you from you in Hyde
Speaker 1: Park to waive connected communities concept in Hyde Park Square.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's funny. We were when we were collecting signatures
Speaker 5: last night. Somebody actually came in and said, oh, these
Speaker 5: well connected developers.
Speaker 1: Oh that's great, that's great listening to Todd Zinser. And
Speaker 1: you know it's the truth. I mean what I mean,
Speaker 1: it just it reveals so much about where the loyalty
Speaker 1: of the elected officials, the council members and the and
Speaker 1: the mayor are. It's not their constituents.
Speaker 5: It doesn't seem to be Brian, that's for sure.
Speaker 1: Well, elections can have consequences, and we are going to
Speaker 1: get an opportunity. Well, citizens of Cincinnati are going to
Speaker 1: get an opportunity to maybe vote for different people in November. Yes,
Speaker 1: how optimistic are you that that's going to happen.
Speaker 5: Well, one good sign is that, from what I understand,
Speaker 5: the Democrats were supposed to come out with their slate
Speaker 5: their slate card by now, and they've pushed that back totally,
Speaker 5: So they may be having some difficulty trying to figure
Speaker 5: out who they should run for council. I mean, the
Speaker 5: mayor of course is set, but the Blue ticket or
Speaker 5: the Democrats isn't settled yet.
Speaker 1: So perhaps some infighting, maybe even over zoning issues inside
Speaker 1: the Democrat party.
Speaker 5: I'm not sure. You know, they have one vacancy that
Speaker 5: they have to fill. There's one incumbent that's not Victoria
Speaker 5: Parks is not running again, so there's one empty slot,
Speaker 5: so they have there's probably disagreements about who should fill
Speaker 5: that slot. And then I think there may be some
Speaker 5: incumbent council members who aren't aren't a sure thing for
Speaker 5: the ticket.
Speaker 1: Really, yeah, is anybody out loud running against like, for example,
Speaker 1: either connected communities or what was done to Hyde Park
Speaker 1: as a Democrat? Like here, I am a Democrat. I
Speaker 1: want to run for since a city council and I
Speaker 1: object completely to what they did to the residents of
Speaker 1: High Park.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, there are definitely Democrats who are concerned about
Speaker 5: what went on. And I think what you're going to
Speaker 5: see is the Charter Committee is working on coming up.
Speaker 1: With a slate, I would hope, so, I mean.
Speaker 5: And those that slate is not going to be one
Speaker 5: party or another. It's going to be it's going to
Speaker 5: be a combination of independence, a Republicans, some Democrats.
Speaker 1: Well isn't that kind of what the Charter Committee is
Speaker 1: all about.
Speaker 5: Yes, that's exactly right.
Speaker 1: It's common sense government, correct.
Speaker 5: So we'll see what happens there. I mean, I think
Speaker 5: there's going to be some competition.
Speaker 1: Well, i'd like to see that, and i'd like to
Speaker 1: see some you know, some reporting on it. You know,
Speaker 1: people talking about the issues, raising awareness that there is
Speaker 1: a choice that you have, that it maybe represent you
Speaker 1: better as a resident of the City of Cincinnati. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's going to take all of that. A well oiled campaign.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you're going to see You're going to see social media.
Speaker 5: There's going to be The Charter Committee is refreshing their website.
Speaker 5: I do believe they're very serious about challenging the incumbents here.
Speaker 1: Good good, Well, you've got the fifty five Cassee Morning
Speaker 1: Show to spread the word about those alternatives, because there's
Speaker 1: got to be a change, and you have a multitude
Speaker 1: of reasons why other than just this one issue, the
Speaker 1: zoning issue, for why there needs to be a change.
Speaker 1: And we're going to continue with Todd Zenzer and talk
Speaker 1: about some of that. Remember it's Citizen Watchdogs his podcast.
Speaker 1: Make sure you find that to stay up on what's
Speaker 1: going on in the city of Cincinnati seven to fifteen.
Speaker 1: Right now the fifty five cars Detalk station. Brian Thomas
Speaker 1: was citizen watchdog Todd Zenser in the studio. Let's pivot
Speaker 1: over to another area of mismanagement by city government. That
Speaker 1: will be the equipment used to clear our roads and
Speaker 1: service our roads and things of that nature. And we
Speaker 1: found out it was only January this year. Hell, they
Speaker 1: didn't even plow out of the roads like a Mount
Speaker 1: Adams and the like. A lot of equipment apparently, as
Speaker 1: we learned at the time, was out of commission. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and they also had manpower issues, which we can talk about.
Speaker 1: But Todd Zinzer, you investigated this, what did you learn?
Speaker 1: Well your investigation, well what I did?
Speaker 5: I'm trying to keep track or come up with these
Speaker 5: deficits that the city has. They have a deficit on
Speaker 5: their pension liability of oh, eight hundred plus million dollars.
Speaker 5: They've got to close that gap in twenty years, which
Speaker 5: would take about forty million dollars a year. And then
Speaker 5: we have the infamous four hundred million dollars in deferred
Speaker 5: infrastructure maintenance. Right, by the way, I've never seen a
Speaker 5: list that totals four hundred million. I've seen lists of
Speaker 5: total two hundred and fifty and two hundred. They've never
Speaker 5: produced a list of that four hundred million. But that's
Speaker 5: the number they use. In fact, when we were in
Speaker 5: the throes of the campaign, they said it was five
Speaker 5: hundred million.
Speaker 1: But why would they want to admit to something that
Speaker 1: makes them look even more incompetent by inflating that figure.
Speaker 1: If they had hanging it's only two hundred and fifty million,
Speaker 1: we can manage that, we'll catch up eventually. But by
Speaker 1: saying it's four hundred or five hundred million dollars, they've
Speaker 1: acknowledged that they have ignored a problem in road maintenance
Speaker 1: for even worse than what we perceive it to be.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, they did that so that people would vote
Speaker 5: to sell the railway.
Speaker 1: Oh lord, is that the reason?
Speaker 5: Yes, exactly. And then I was then when this snow,
Speaker 5: this winter storm Blair came up and we had twenty
Speaker 5: of our snowplows out of commission or broken down, it
Speaker 5: indicated the problem with this fleet maintenance.
Speaker 1: So much like ignoring the pension. Much like ignoring the roads,
Speaker 1: This is ignoring the fleet over time.
Speaker 5: That's right. So I found this report from the internal
Speaker 5: audit manager in the city. So I looked into that
Speaker 5: operation I don't know, a few months ago and had
Speaker 5: some observations. I was somewhat critical. But they issue a
Speaker 5: report and it stands out among their reports because it's
Speaker 5: almost twenty pages long and it's got twelve findings. You
Speaker 5: look at their other reports and they're all like six
Speaker 5: seven pages long, and they got a couple of observations,
Speaker 5: but this was a fairly hard hitting report and it
Speaker 5: had twelve findings, which is very unusual. And some basic things. Well,
Speaker 5: they have forty five percent of fifteen hundred vehicles are
Speaker 5: out of life cycle.
Speaker 1: So almost half of all of the vehicles they have
Speaker 1: are out. What does out of life cycle mean specifically?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 5: So in their fleet management, they keep track of how
Speaker 5: old the vehicle is, how many miles it has, what
Speaker 5: it's a maintenance record looks like, and they have a
Speaker 5: software that helps them manage the fleet, and they come
Speaker 5: up with this indicator of out of life cycle. And
Speaker 5: this auto report found that six hundred and eighty almost
Speaker 5: seven hundred of their vehicles are out of life cycle,
Speaker 5: and they had three big categories. But the total cost
Speaker 5: to replace all those is eighty two million dollars. Oh great,
Speaker 5: And so you have the pension liability, you have the
Speaker 5: deferred maintenance, you have the vehicle of purchase and replacement.
Speaker 5: And I'm sure there are other deficits out there, we
Speaker 5: just don't know what they are right now. But those
Speaker 5: three items total one point three billion.
Speaker 1: Dollars billion with a bee.
Speaker 5: Yes, And you don't see any activity in council to
Speaker 5: address this.
Speaker 1: Well, do you think the council members are even aware
Speaker 1: of this?
Speaker 5: Well, I think they are generally aware of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, generally, But now I'm talking about Todd Zenzer level awareness,
Speaker 1: where you have the actual dollars. You look at the
Speaker 1: reports that exist. This report that you're referring to that
Speaker 1: allowed you to crunch the numbers that identified all these
Speaker 1: different problems. It came out of over a year ago, right.
Speaker 5: Yeah, came out in January of twenty four. And if
Speaker 5: the council and the city manager and the mayor read
Speaker 5: the report, I don't see how they couldn't have come
Speaker 5: up with some kind of action to to fix it.
Speaker 5: Because Here's here's what's funny, because.
Speaker 1: They're too busy chiefs in their green New deal tail exactly.
Speaker 5: But here's the thing. If they truly believed what they
Speaker 5: were saying about climate change and the fact that all
Speaker 5: these that all these storms and weather issues and and
Speaker 5: and all of that is caused by greenhouse gases, you'd
Speaker 5: think they would have looked at this report and said,
Speaker 5: oh my god, we're going to have all this bad
Speaker 5: weather coming. We better, we better make sure we're prepared.
Speaker 1: They don't.
Speaker 5: They can't possibly believe all this big green Cincinnati plan
Speaker 5: and all the disasters that are going to happen because
Speaker 5: they're not they're not uh uh managing for it.
Speaker 1: Well, we'll talk more about this since a green plan
Speaker 1: coming up. I mean, the whole notion that the city
Speaker 1: of Cincinnati, within these geographic limitations that it has, can
Speaker 1: have some sort of, you know, plausible impact on the
Speaker 1: global climate is just a joke. Yeah, that anyone thinks
Speaker 1: that that is. It's just it's nonsense. And it's obviously
Speaker 1: there's something else behind the curtain of these green energy projects,
Speaker 1: and gee, I wonder what it is. Seven twenty five
Speaker 1: ifty five Kara City Talk Station more with Todd Zenzer
Speaker 1: or Citizen Watchdog Ay thirty fifty five car City Talkstation.
Speaker 1: I hope you're having a happy Friday. I always enjoy
Speaker 1: my conversation with Todd Zenzer, the enlightening they are and
Speaker 1: times doing the heavy lifting and paying attention to the
Speaker 1: important bottom line figures for the city government. What's out there,
Speaker 1: what needs to be done, what's being neglected, and where
Speaker 1: they're focusing their attention. And you alluded to it. We
Speaker 1: just mentioned it, the Green Energy Plan, which I think
Speaker 1: I learned from you or someone else that at least
Speaker 1: Mayor I have to have Purvoll and quite a few
Speaker 1: other members of council everything from a lens of green
Speaker 1: new deal sort of focus, as well as DEI Yes.
Speaker 5: When he was interviewed about their twenty twenty three Green
Speaker 5: Cincinnati Plan, the Mayor said that any everything that comes
Speaker 5: across his desk he views through two lenses, equity and climate.
Speaker 5: And I don't even know what that means, to be honest,
Speaker 5: I don't either, but he's very committed.
Speaker 1: And ought to be committed.
Speaker 5: The Green Cincinnati Plan is very very extreme. I mean
Speaker 5: it is they put so much effort and planning into
Speaker 5: that thing. I've asked for any records that will show
Speaker 5: what the cost of the Green City Plan is in
Speaker 5: terms of what a cost to put it together, and
Speaker 5: I asked for the same information on connected communities. I
Speaker 5: haven't gotten anything back yet. Course you have it, but
Speaker 5: it is the Green Cincinnati Plan is just very, very extreme.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: For example, Phil, let's talk about the examples.
Speaker 5: Five different types of equity are outlined in the plan.
Speaker 1: How does equity save the planet.
Speaker 5: Brian, I don't know about all that stuff.
Speaker 1: Money goes out the door to fund what non government
Speaker 1: organizations are putting together studies and doing focus groups and
Speaker 1: that kind of thing.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I've I've been looking at the nonprofits and external
Speaker 5: organizations that the city gives money to and Mike count
Speaker 5: is up to two hundred and fourteen.
Speaker 1: So two hundred and fourteen hands in the cookie jar. Yes. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: we got over a billion dollars in outstanding debt and
Speaker 1: maintenance and upgrade needs.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and what seventy one organizations are giving money under
Speaker 5: the Green Cincinnati Plan and we have any idea what
Speaker 5: they're doing, well, and we know what they got the
Speaker 5: money for generally, but we there's no there's no report
Speaker 5: back on what they actually do with the money.
Speaker 1: Well, see, that's there's something like that USAID revealed when
Speaker 1: DOGE took a look at that, they found that money
Speaker 1: went out the door, but they never followed up like
Speaker 1: for example, you know, studying I don't know, transgender mice
Speaker 1: or pick your favorite example of money millions of dollars squad. Yeah,
Speaker 1: did anything get accomplished by the recipients of the money
Speaker 1: or was it just money that went to some identified
Speaker 1: not for profit or non government or governmental organizations who
Speaker 1: purported to address whatever issue they were told to do.
Speaker 5: Yes, So they have a number of grant programs that
Speaker 5: they operate. There's there's fourteen competitive grant programs that the
Speaker 5: city operates with either federal money, state money, Cincinnati money.
Speaker 5: But on the there's a category called Leverage Support in
Speaker 5: addition to the Cincinnati Plan, in addition to the ACT
Speaker 5: Percinci program, in addition to what's the other one, A
Speaker 5: Safe and Clean is another program. And they have all
Speaker 5: these programs where all these nonprofits and and the amounts
Speaker 5: range from like nine hundred dollars to two hundred and
Speaker 5: fifty thousand dollars. And so they have all these organizations
Speaker 5: getting money, and we really don't have a good handle
Speaker 5: on exactly how they're managing that money. And there's just
Speaker 5: a lot of risk there for a lot of leakage,
Speaker 5: a lot of misappropriation. And I've found one audit of
Speaker 5: one recipient in the last several years, and it was
Speaker 5: a pretty good They had some pretty good findings actually,
Speaker 5: and that that should have caused them to look at
Speaker 5: a lot more of these organizations than they have looked
Speaker 5: at and well.
Speaker 1: Boiled down to its most base points. What do the
Speaker 1: audit reveal about that one organization? It was recipient of
Speaker 1: the taxpayer dollars.
Speaker 5: So this is it was kind of surprising because this
Speaker 5: is the regional Economic Development initiative, and so this is
Speaker 5: an initiative with other local governments and the let me
Speaker 5: see if I can find the results here.
Speaker 1: Real quickly, Well why are you doing that? We can talk,
Speaker 1: We can further about this because we can't put this
Speaker 1: subject matter to rest, and because we're coming up on
Speaker 1: a break here. But I must observe that you know,
Speaker 1: some entity out there is getting a quarter of a
Speaker 1: million dollars. We don't know exactly what they're doing or
Speaker 1: what they're accomplishing. But those entities employ people. A salary
Speaker 1: must be paid because this isn't all volunteer work going
Speaker 1: out there, That's right. So you we are basically so
Speaker 1: after the salary is paid, what what did you get
Speaker 1: in return for paying that person's salary? What's left over
Speaker 1: from that that allocation to cover whatever costs associated with
Speaker 1: whatever work they're doing.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, there are some of these groups that they have,
Speaker 5: they have millions of dollars in assets that are getting
Speaker 5: these big nonprofit and they're getting two hundred, two hundred
Speaker 5: and fifty thousand dollars from the city. One of them,
Speaker 5: the CEO, is making over four hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: That's exactly what I'm talking about right there.
Speaker 5: And it's like, why do you need our two hundred
Speaker 5: thousand dollars if they're able to pay your CEO over
Speaker 5: four hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: Well, maybe because that's some of that money's going to
Speaker 1: come back to fund campaigns to get city council members
Speaker 1: and the mayor re elected. Seven thirty five fifty five
Speaker 1: k CD talk station seven forty one I fifty five
Speaker 1: KRCD talk station talking with Todd Zenzer CITs in Watchdog,
Speaker 1: former Inspector General for the United States, looking at what
Speaker 1: information is available, and it's kind of frightening stuff when
Speaker 1: it comes to finding out how many of these outside
Speaker 1: organizations are being funded by the city since an eighty
Speaker 1: dollars in the name of the Green Energy Plan or
Speaker 1: whatever the hell it's called. And Todd's revealed already this
Speaker 1: morning of one over one billion dollars in outstanding obligations,
Speaker 1: and there could be a whole lot more than that.
Speaker 1: We're talking about the equipment eighty two million dollars worth
Speaker 1: of out of lifestyle equipment, which is exactly why the
Speaker 1: plows weren't running around January four hundred, or between two
Speaker 1: hundred fifty and four hundred million dollars in road repairs
Speaker 1: that are outstanding and behind do so add that to
Speaker 1: the list and eight hundred fifty million dollars in outstanding
Speaker 1: pension allogation behind the eight ball by eight hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty million dollars. So there's your billion plus right there.
Speaker 1: And as it turns out, a lot of money flowing
Speaker 1: out of the city since then, he going to these
Speaker 1: couple of one hundred different outside entities, mostly in the
Speaker 1: name of green energy and Green New Deal kind of crap,
Speaker 1: none of which we have any control overs. But that's
Speaker 1: where the nefarious part comes in. You know, we can't
Speaker 1: change the climate just by taking steps in that direction.
Speaker 1: With the City of Cincinnati on its own, we're all
Speaker 1: breathing the same air globally, So there's got to be
Speaker 1: something nefarious about it. And as it turns out, a
Speaker 1: lot of people making a lot of money off the
Speaker 1: tax dollars going out to these organizations, and yet they
Speaker 1: can't show what they've done in return for the money.
Speaker 1: They can't even account for where the money was direct.
Speaker 1: You had that audit you mentioned, and you pulled it out,
Speaker 1: So explain to my listeners about that one, because it's
Speaker 1: it's just it's illustrative.
Speaker 5: Well, one of the groups that are getting a lot
Speaker 5: of money from the city is called the Regional Economic
Speaker 5: Development Initiative, and that's a group of local governments and
Speaker 5: the internal audit manager just to issue a report in
Speaker 5: April end of April this year, so a few weeks ago,
Speaker 5: and their audit, and again I've been critical of them
Speaker 5: in the past, but again this audit identified had four findings.
Speaker 5: Number one and they the way they were these findings.
Speaker 5: It's way too gentle, you know, they try not to
Speaker 5: offend people by hitting them too hard. But number one
Speaker 5: is contract management review and oversight need.
Speaker 1: Improvement, need improvement.
Speaker 5: Yes, and they identified, for example, fourteen thousand dollars spent
Speaker 5: by that group with no supporting documents, so it's.
Speaker 1: You can't audit it.
Speaker 5: Well, that's another finding.
Speaker 1: Oh.
Speaker 5: Another finding is a third party is unable to verify
Speaker 5: the terms of the contract. So what that's saying is
Speaker 5: that somebody coming in from the outside to try that
Speaker 5: tries to figure out whether you're complying with the contract.
Speaker 5: They're not able to do that because of the way
Speaker 5: that the organization is maintaining their records. Another one is
Speaker 5: payroll journals contain insufficient information to determine whether contractual terms
Speaker 5: are upheld. What that means is that this organization is
Speaker 5: not keeping track of how much time their employees are
Speaker 5: spending on city matters because that's what gets build to
Speaker 5: the city. So they can't even tell you how much
Speaker 5: of the money they pay their employees is for work
Speaker 5: that went to the city.
Speaker 1: And this is just one. This is just one.
Speaker 5: This is one that's been around a long time. There's
Speaker 5: been getting money from the city for a long time.
Speaker 5: This isn't one of these small, you know, little nonprofits.
Speaker 5: This is a well established organization. It's very, very shocking
Speaker 5: to me.
Speaker 1: It is I'd like to say unbelievable. No, but it's
Speaker 1: totally believable under the current administration and how it's been
Speaker 1: operating now for the past several decades. This eight hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty million dollar hole, this billion plus dollar hole
Speaker 1: we just went through and you talked about earlier, didn't
Speaker 1: happen overnight.
Speaker 5: That's right.
Speaker 1: How many years The Democrats have been in control of
Speaker 1: the City of Cincinnati A long time? Uh huh, long time.
Speaker 1: This happened on their watch.
Speaker 5: And this council and this mayor are engaging in the
Speaker 5: same kind of conduct that led to these deficits. They're
Speaker 5: not they're not paying attention to how much money they're
Speaker 5: spending on other things other than these deficits.
Speaker 1: And maybe we can bring back up the railroad sale,
Speaker 1: because you mentioned how they use these numbers to parlay
Speaker 1: us into believing the sale the railroad is going to help,
Speaker 1: and see if it actually did help the situation at
Speaker 1: all under the current circumstances. Seven fifty coming up at
Speaker 1: seven fifty one I fifty five K City Talk Station.
Speaker 1: One more segment here with Todd Zenzers, citizen watchdog, former
Speaker 1: Inspector General, and he is doing as much suspecting as
Speaker 1: he can with the books being cooked in downtown Cincinnati.
Speaker 1: You had mentioned off air, are you mentioned on the
Speaker 1: air about these two hundred plus organizations that all have
Speaker 1: their hand in the cookie jar? They're not regularly audited.
Speaker 1: The one audit you were able to find show that
Speaker 1: they were not well capable of even being audited. They
Speaker 1: didn't know where the money was going, how it was
Speaker 1: being spent. So that's probably illustrative of probably every other
Speaker 1: of the couple one hundred of these organizations. But you
Speaker 1: mentioned how much it's expanded. The number of these organizations
Speaker 1: has expanded. The hands in the cookie jar have increased
Speaker 1: exponentially over the past ten years.
Speaker 5: Right, There's all kinds. There's there's various lists of these
Speaker 5: organizations in different categories. The main one that I got
Speaker 5: interested in was the leverage support category, and back in
Speaker 5: twenty fifteen in the budget in twenty fifteen, I could
Speaker 5: only find a half a dozen out external organizations or
Speaker 5: nonprofits that shared about five million dollars. So fast forward
Speaker 5: to twenty twenty five, we've got over two hundred sharing
Speaker 5: twenty five million dollars and it's just grown and grown.
Speaker 5: In fact, a couple of years ago under this administration,
Speaker 5: this current administration, they had so many of these groups
Speaker 5: that they had to restructure the budget and create additional
Speaker 5: categories to put these groups in. It used to be
Speaker 5: one leverage support category. Now they've got three of those categories.
Speaker 5: And they've got several other programs like Act for Cinci
Speaker 5: where they just give they give money. After Act for Sincy,
Speaker 5: I think there's like forty one groups the Green Cincinnati Plan,
Speaker 5: there's like seventy one out external organizations that get money.
Speaker 5: And if you remember our conversation about client tells them
Speaker 5: that was about the political dynamic that's created, the bond
Speaker 5: that's created between the incumbents and these grant recipients.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well they're out there putting banners up and getting
Speaker 1: petitions signed and campaigning on behalf of the officials.
Speaker 5: Well yes, but in addition to that, you've got to
Speaker 5: look at the oversight of these organizations, and that's not
Speaker 5: going on either.
Speaker 1: Who decides what organizations get money? How is any individual
Speaker 1: orcause I'm going to put my name on that list.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Well, for to sign up for leverage support, there's an
Speaker 5: annual application process. Surprise, not surprisingly, the same organizations seem
Speaker 5: to get funded every year. Yeah, I'm sure, but there's
Speaker 5: an application process that the city manager's office reviews and
Speaker 5: recommends the organizations that receive money and how much they get.
Speaker 5: And now get this. Once that happened, the city manager's
Speaker 5: recommendations go to the mayor, and the mayor can add
Speaker 5: or subtract, and there's nothing written about that process how
Speaker 5: the mayor comes to determine those amounts, and then it
Speaker 5: goes to the council and the council can add and subtract,
Speaker 5: and there's nothing to say how they do their decision
Speaker 5: making there. So, for example, in twenty twenty five, through
Speaker 5: that process, they added one point five million dollars to
Speaker 5: this city manager's recommendations, just arbitrarily. There's something wrong with
Speaker 5: that process.
Speaker 1: Really, Yes, I hadn't noticed to. And so if Purvol
Speaker 1: this parvol can add one of these an additional group,
Speaker 1: that means that that person, that group that empty has
Speaker 1: not gone through the city manager review process you spoke of. Well,
Speaker 1: not whether we can take any comfort in that process
Speaker 1: by itself. But if you go to the list, then
Speaker 1: goes to parvol and he can add to it. He
Speaker 1: could add someone who has any gone through the review process.
Speaker 5: That's right. So the the interesting thing is, and I
Speaker 5: did a podcast on this, we called it the Missing Audit.
Speaker 5: The previous mayor, John Brantley and the city council, after
Speaker 5: the scandal, commissioned an audit of the economic development projects
Speaker 5: and they hired an audit firm out of Chicago named
Speaker 5: Crow and Crow issued a draft report in December twenty
Speaker 5: twenty two, and it included a recommendation about that very process.
Speaker 5: It says that's not a good process. It's ripe for corruption.
Speaker 1: Yes it is.
Speaker 5: So did the city do anything about that?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 5: They basically buried that report. I finally got just the
Speaker 5: other day. I had a records request for let's see,
Speaker 5: I see the draft report. Where's the final report? So
Speaker 5: I didn't know whether they just canceled the thing or
Speaker 5: buried it or what. So I did a record request
Speaker 5: for it. I finally got the documents, and there was
Speaker 5: a one year gap between the draft report and there
Speaker 5: is a final report dated November of twenty three. But
Speaker 5: what happened in the interim between the city and this
Speaker 5: audit firm is very mysterious. I've never seen anything like it,
Speaker 5: to be honest with you.
Speaker 1: Todd Zenzer, always revealing things that you've never seen anything
Speaker 1: like it in spite of the fact that you've been
Speaker 1: doing this kind of work now for decades former Inspector
Speaker 1: General Todd and you did it on a federal level too.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is ah todds Ender Citizen Watchdog. Find
Speaker 1: a podcast, check it out and thank you again on
Speaker 1: behalf of all the residents of the city of Cincinnati
Speaker 1: for the work you're doing. And you know it reveals
Speaker 1: a lot. Think about if it's this bad in the
Speaker 1: city of Cincinnati, how bad you think it is on
Speaker 1: a federal government level. Todd Zenzer will have you back
Speaker 1: in studio hopefully soon. It's always a pleasure having here
Speaker 1: my friends. Thanks around, folks, Thank you my pleasure. ALYSSA
Speaker 1: Plan ahnd local author with The Reason, a book on
Speaker 1: the Reasons why Zimmer got shut down, Zimmer the movement
Speaker 1: that defeated a nuclear power plant. That plus so'll hear
Speaker 1: about the Law Enforcement Expo at eight thirty I'll be
Speaker 1: right back eight oh five. They five care CD talk station.
Speaker 1: A very happy Friday to you by the Timas. Please
Speaker 1: to welcome my next guest, local author, and I enjoy
Speaker 1: having local authors on the program, Alyssa McClanahan. She is
Speaker 1: described as a writer scholar specializing in historic preservation and
Speaker 1: public urban as well as environmental history, as a PhD
Speaker 1: from my alma mater, PhD in history from the University
Speaker 1: of Cincinnati, and she's also the author of a book
Speaker 1: that we'll not be talking about today, Findley Market is Cincinnati,
Speaker 1: which uses Findley Market as a vehicle to explore the
Speaker 1: larger history of US cities. Welcome to the program, Alyssa.
Speaker 1: It's a pleasure to have you on today.
Speaker 7: Hello, thank you for having me.
Speaker 1: Good morning, it's my pleasure. And the name of the
Speaker 1: book we're talking about today, Zimmer, the movement that defeated
Speaker 1: a nuclear power plant. I remember the saga Zimmer to
Speaker 1: a certain agree. It goes back quite a few years.
Speaker 1: But this the original Zimmer nuclear power plant, as I understand,
Speaker 1: it was announced or proposed back in nineteen sixty nine.
Speaker 7: Yes, correct, Yeah, it goes back quite a bit.
Speaker 1: And so when did the first shovel hit the ground.
Speaker 1: When did the construction begin on Zimmer.
Speaker 7: Very soon after that? They got a construction permit to
Speaker 7: start significant amount of work in nineteen seventy two, but
Speaker 7: they were allowed to do kind of like raising and
Speaker 7: prepping the site prior to that construction permit. And then
Speaker 7: when they canceled the project in nineteen eighty four converting
Speaker 7: it to a coal plant, it was then ninety nine
Speaker 7: percent built. So the majority of it was built from
Speaker 7: seventy two to eighty.
Speaker 1: Four, so it took about fifteen years to get it
Speaker 1: ninety nine percent done, and then they pulled a plug
Speaker 1: on it.
Speaker 7: Correct. Yeah, so the book explores this saga the strong.
Speaker 1: Well, let's talk about the saga and drama, because I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm a fan of the concept of nuclear power. I'm
Speaker 1: not a global warming believer. I'm not a climate change believer,
Speaker 1: but you know, if getting carbon out of the air
Speaker 1: is important, then the best way to do that and
Speaker 1: provided abundance of cheap, pollution free electricity is a nuclear
Speaker 1: power plant. They produce a lot of electricity and comparatively
Speaker 1: small footprint nowadays. But this was your more traditional old
Speaker 1: school cooling tower nuclear plant. Correct.
Speaker 7: Yes, yes, yes, So the big thing the book is
Speaker 7: up to is taking the story of Zimmer, which is
Speaker 7: one can test a nuclear power plants, and exploring the
Speaker 7: larger history of nuclear power as it took off and
Speaker 7: then kind of faltered in the US in the sixties
Speaker 7: and seventies into the early eighties. One of the things
Speaker 7: that I want to do for readers is, as we're
Speaker 7: thinking about reinvesting in nuclear power now for right reasons,
Speaker 7: as you mentioned, I think we just need to understand
Speaker 7: this very recent history in the sixties and seventies and eighties.
Speaker 7: You know, we heavily tried to invest in it in
Speaker 7: those decades, and the industry faltered significantly at significant costs
Speaker 7: to utility companies, many of which went bankrupt, to utility customers.
Speaker 7: And so I think I would I want to share
Speaker 7: the hang ups of that industry by looking at one
Speaker 7: interesting story, one local story, to give readers some you know,
Speaker 7: some good knowledge, some good information to think about it today.
Speaker 7: Because because you're right, they produce enormous amounts of energy
Speaker 7: compared to a coal plant, for instance, they are still
Speaker 7: incredibly expensive to build, which was one of the issues
Speaker 7: back then. They still, you know, have other hang ups too.
Speaker 7: They still produce significant numbers of whistle blowing workers who
Speaker 7: say this isn't safe, this was installed correctly, that was
Speaker 7: an issue back then. The book explores they still have
Speaker 7: issues with quality control and assurance. We still have no
Speaker 7: safe way to actually dispose of the waste, so they're
Speaker 7: not you know, really renewable. So there's significant issues with
Speaker 7: them that we just need to think through today. And
Speaker 7: I'm hoping that by exploring, you know, very recent history
Speaker 7: through a good story, that readers can get some of
Speaker 7: that good knowledge so they can better think about nuclear
Speaker 7: power today. That's what I'm up to.
Speaker 1: That's great, and I think it's an outstanding effort that
Speaker 1: you've engaged in here, because you know, small modular small
Speaker 1: modular reactors these days are nowhere anything like the Zimmer
Speaker 1: Power Plan or those old school nuclear reactors. They're completely
Speaker 1: different technologies, much smaller, easy to operate, and much less
Speaker 1: a waste coming out of them, if any. I've heard
Speaker 1: many people say that there really isn't any at all,
Speaker 1: but ignoring the realities of modern nuclear actors when it
Speaker 1: comes to the whistleblowers that were that were coming out,
Speaker 1: and I even remember hearing news stories about that that
Speaker 1: it was unsafe with what was coming out the construction concerns.
Speaker 1: Were those legitimate complaints by legitimate people or were those
Speaker 1: motivated by political activism.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's a great question the former. Actually, So what
Speaker 7: I found with Zimmer, the vast majority of whistleblowers came
Speaker 7: out in the late seventies early eighties, so this is
Speaker 7: years into the plant going under construction. These are pretty
Speaker 7: much exclusively men who work at the plant or inspect
Speaker 7: the plant, and they are very, very hesitant to come forward.
Speaker 7: Many of them described their lives thereafter were just wrecked.
Speaker 7: They were made paries in their communities, they lost their job,
Speaker 7: their family felt unsafe. They were incredibly hesitant to come forward.
Speaker 7: But these were men who ultimately felt like they wanted
Speaker 7: to point out some serious safety issues. Not all of
Speaker 7: them had serious have safety issues they were pointing out
Speaker 7: some of them were not in safety related things that
Speaker 7: they just felt like, I'm a quality control inspector, this
Speaker 7: isn't how you do this kind of a thing, you know,
Speaker 7: the procedural things, which I respect. Others were pointing out
Speaker 7: thousands of very serious safety issues with Zimmer, to the
Speaker 7: point that they ended up having to tire lawyers to
Speaker 7: represent them. And so there's a law firm actually out
Speaker 7: a DC that came in just this one guy who
Speaker 7: was very young at the time, and he represented them,
Speaker 7: and I talked to him quite a lot because he himself,
Speaker 7: like you, you know, isn't opposed a nuclear power on
Speaker 7: principle by any means, but he was just very struck
Speaker 7: by how all of these men were so fearful and
Speaker 7: felt like I need to come forward. And when they
Speaker 7: would give public testimony, these would use they would use
Speaker 7: voice distortion machines, they would cover themselves in drapes looking
Speaker 7: like ghosts. Essentially, they didn't want to have any of
Speaker 7: their names released. As a historian, looking at my sources,
Speaker 7: very few of their names are actually out there. So
Speaker 7: these are people who were threatened with physical violence. Many
Speaker 7: of them lost their jobs, and so it was it
Speaker 7: felt very very real to me, you know. The popular
Speaker 7: protest movement that emerged across the Cincinnati area was this
Speaker 7: gradual evolution of some folks that were opposed to it
Speaker 7: on principle. They were kind of the early activists, and
Speaker 7: later more and more folks signed on because they were
Speaker 7: listening to whistleblowers they were paying for Zimmer even though
Speaker 7: it wasn't producing power. And I think, you know, the
Speaker 7: whistle blowers, you know, the vast majority of them liked
Speaker 7: nuclear power. It gave them a really high paying, good job,
Speaker 7: and so they were really really hesitant to come forward.
Speaker 7: And when I talked to the men and women that
Speaker 7: worked with them that got them to kind of come forward,
Speaker 7: those people just said, you know, we need to understand
Speaker 7: Zimmer is not unique in this. It's not an aberration
Speaker 7: that the nuclear power industry, nuclear weapons production facilities produce
Speaker 7: a huge numbers of whistleblowers in the seventies and eighties,
Speaker 7: and so I think we need to dig into that
Speaker 7: whise quality control and assurance missing in that industry. And
Speaker 7: the book explores that. You know, we've got a rather
Speaker 7: hands off regulatory system with that industry at large, and
Speaker 7: so again, if we're thinking about it today, we need
Speaker 7: to make sure that that is that that's not the
Speaker 7: issue anymore, because we want people working at these plans
Speaker 7: to feel safe, and we definitely want the families living
Speaker 7: around them to feel like you know, as a mom myself,
Speaker 7: you can raise your kid in the shadow of one
Speaker 7: of these and know that it's safe. So yeah, I
Speaker 7: enjoyed researching this because the protests that emerged over it
Speaker 7: came from all these different angles where some people question,
Speaker 7: you know, well what if there is an accident, and
Speaker 7: other people question just the regular radiation that comes from
Speaker 7: it at low levels, you know, is that safe for
Speaker 7: my farm or my kids. Other people were really concerned.
Speaker 6: About the cost.
Speaker 7: Ohio has to have state provision that once you completed
Speaker 7: a new power plant seventy five percent complete, you could
Speaker 7: include its costs on utility customers bills, and so towards
Speaker 7: the end of the zimmer Saga, utility customers were paying
Speaker 7: for a very expensive, very overbudget plant that wasn't yet
Speaker 7: producing power, and so customers, particularly working class and low
Speaker 7: income folks, got very upset because they're paying for something
Speaker 7: that they're not even benefiting from. And so it's this
Speaker 7: really kind of weird, beautiful story of this protest movement
Speaker 7: that's not really a movement, but like twelve movements combined.
Speaker 7: And it was very interesting to study because it's like
Speaker 7: a lot of different perspectives, liberals, conservatives, all sorts of
Speaker 7: people that had something to say about it. And I
Speaker 7: very much.
Speaker 1: Enjoyed that oh, I imagine, and I can see how
Speaker 1: this coalition would build. All the story is coming out,
Speaker 1: and you had the initial protesters, the environmentalists, which just
Speaker 1: I think stood on, well, it's nuclear, ergo it has
Speaker 1: to be bad. Because this protest started before three Mile
Speaker 1: Island hit, and of course three Mile Line fueled the
Speaker 1: fire of that activism. They thought every single one of
Speaker 1: these plants represented an existential threat to the general community,
Speaker 1: if not you know, the state, or the geographic area
Speaker 1: of rather large geographic area. But you mentioned government regulations,
Speaker 1: and it seems to me that in modern times, governmental
Speaker 1: regulations are the ones that stand in the way of progress.
Speaker 1: And I thought maybe that was one of the reasons
Speaker 1: why it took so long to at least from the
Speaker 1: start of the project to nineteen eighty four when they
Speaker 1: pulled the plug on it, that maybe the regulatory environment
Speaker 1: was part of the problem. But you suggested it, No,
Speaker 1: it wasn't.
Speaker 7: OK. So it's a little bit of both. What's so
Speaker 7: interesting about why nuclear power in this country takes off
Speaker 7: and then kind of to be a bit dramatic like
Speaker 7: crashes and burns is a host of factors, and so
Speaker 7: I try to explore this in a really readable, hopefully
Speaker 7: readable way in the Zimmer book. So protest is one
Speaker 7: aspect of it, but honestly, they're not really the one
Speaker 7: thinking the projects. It's actually the money. And I think protests,
Speaker 7: you know, raises people's awareness of the money in a
Speaker 7: very important way. But it's the money that really really
Speaker 7: drives utility companies to cancel these projects. And to your point,
Speaker 7: part of the enormity of costs in that era was
Speaker 7: because there's this growing governmental review process, in part because
Speaker 7: of the environmental movement, and a lot of that was
Speaker 7: frankly very good. We want to make sure that these
Speaker 7: things are built safely. But on the other hand, if
Speaker 7: you're you know, sympathetic to these utility companies, which I
Speaker 7: try to be in the book, you're just holding costs
Speaker 7: or growing and growing and growing as you have to
Speaker 7: go from one public hearing to the next, and then
Speaker 7: you need twelve different agencies to review this thing. That
Speaker 7: is a lot, and.
Speaker 6: So you feel for them.
Speaker 7: In addition to that growing governmental review, there's also the
Speaker 7: issue that the one government agency that's tasked with trying
Speaker 7: to get these things on air safely, the Nuclear Regulatory Commission,
Speaker 7: took an incredibly hands off approach to that regulation in
Speaker 7: a way that ultimately drug out the process instead of
Speaker 7: made it more efficient. They deferred pretty much all of
Speaker 7: the quality control to utilities, and utilities had no experience
Speaker 7: building nuclear power plants in the sixties and seventies because
Speaker 7: no one did. It was very much technology good, so
Speaker 7: they know, they kind of went at it with a
Speaker 7: lot of the attitude of well, I know how to
Speaker 7: build a coal plant, and they did. They were very
Speaker 7: good at that, but no one knew how to build
Speaker 7: a nuclear power plan. And as you mentioned earlier, they
Speaker 7: were huge back then, physically huge, and they required redundant, redundant,
Speaker 7: redundant quality control to make sure that they were built
Speaker 7: well and that the men building them were safe and
Speaker 7: the families nearby were safe. And we just didn't understand
Speaker 7: that at large, that that's the way you got got
Speaker 7: to do it. And so because of that kind of
Speaker 7: lack of quality regulation and deferred regulation to utilities, then
Speaker 7: they were built pretty poorly, and so then they had
Speaker 7: to go back and fix themselves over and over again,
Speaker 7: which is what happens was Zimmer. They get fined by
Speaker 7: the Nuclear Regulatory Commission babying c GENI for not building it. Well,
Speaker 7: they got to go back and fix it. They get
Speaker 7: another sign, they got to go back and fix it.
Speaker 7: So you do feel bad for the Cincati gas and
Speaker 7: Electric officials at different points because they just seem like
Speaker 7: they're trying and they're not succeeding. They certainly were a
Speaker 7: group of rather arrogant officials. They thought they knew what
Speaker 7: they were doing. They were very uninterested in outside input.
Speaker 7: But you also feel sympathetic to them because you know,
Speaker 7: I'm married to a man that runs a construction based business.
Speaker 7: Those are really hard businesses to run, and is building
Speaker 7: massive power plants. I mean, it's one of the most
Speaker 7: capital intensive industries in the US. And we also have
Speaker 7: to understand that another factor that sunk nuclear power was
Speaker 7: that they're building these things in the seventies. That was
Speaker 7: when the post war economic boom ended and it was yeah,
Speaker 7: and so that meant that whatever you thought your construction
Speaker 7: costs were going to be, they suddenly skyrocket. And that
Speaker 7: is not their fault. You know, they could have maybe projected, okay,
Speaker 7: what if we do have a recession. They could have
Speaker 7: done a better job with that, but some of that
Speaker 7: was out of their control and So what's so interesting
Speaker 7: about nuclear power is that it's kind of like six different, big,
Speaker 7: chunky factors that converge to think the industry instead of
Speaker 7: just one singular thing and that so it's a really layered,
Speaker 7: nuanced story, and I'm trying to use just one singular
Speaker 7: place to help readers understand those different factors. And then
Speaker 7: again think about, Okay, well, what.
Speaker 6: Can we do today?
Speaker 1: Amen offering suggestions and solutions for problems from real life experience.
Speaker 1: Zimmer The Movement that Defeated a Nuclear Power Plant by
Speaker 1: my guest today, local author I'lllyssa McClanahan Alyssa. This has
Speaker 1: been a fascinating conversation. I'm not sure my listeners will
Speaker 1: be thrilled about getting a copy of the book, since
Speaker 1: we have such a close connection with it here locally.
Speaker 1: I will have my producer put it on my blog
Speaker 1: page fifty five car Sea dot com. But folks, if
Speaker 1: you're interested, it is available on Amazon. Zimmer The Movement
Speaker 1: that Defeated a Nuclear Power Plant. My regular producers out today,
Speaker 1: So I don't know that Danny is how to update
Speaker 1: my page, but it'll Oh, Danny, you can do it. Wonderful.
Speaker 1: Then we'll add the link ALYSSA real pleasure Day. Thanks
Speaker 1: for documenting this in this wonderful book.
Speaker 7: Thank you so much for having me my pleasure.
Speaker 1: Eight thirty one Here fifty five KRCD Talks Station, A
Speaker 1: happy Friday to you. I hope you got some plans
Speaker 1: for the weekend, but if you don't, find some time
Speaker 1: to check out the twenty twenty five law Enforcement Expo
Speaker 1: that's taking place at the Springdale Community Center this Saturday
Speaker 1: tomorrow from noon until three. And here to talk about
Speaker 1: the details of it from the Springdale community, from the
Speaker 1: community the Community service officer rather for the Springdale Police Department.
Speaker 1: Keenan reared and good to have you on the program. Keenan,
Speaker 1: good to be here. Thank you for having me.
Speaker 4: Appreciate it.
Speaker 1: I'm happy to support law enforcement in any way, shape
Speaker 1: or form I can. And what a cool event this is.
Speaker 1: I would think the kids could would absolutely eat this up.
Speaker 1: Tell my listeners about what's going to be going on
Speaker 1: at the Springdale Community Center beginning at noon tomorrow.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so we have this huge law enforcement group that's
Speaker 4: come together in the Community Center parking lot. It's all outdoors.
Speaker 4: I guess you could call it something similar to like
Speaker 4: a touch a truck but for police vehicles. But even
Speaker 4: more than that, you know, tons of free food, free
Speaker 4: actual ConA ice from one to.
Speaker 1: Oh that's a draw right there, man. Oh I know,
Speaker 1: although I'm on a no sugar diet so that kind
Speaker 1: of keeps me out of the fund. But ConA ice
Speaker 1: for free between one and two.
Speaker 4: Be up for that absolutely, And for your no sugar diet.
Speaker 4: We got hot dogs and yeah, chips and water and such.
Speaker 4: Hot dogs donated by Smithfield, so we appreciate them, thank you.
Speaker 4: And also free bike helmets limited supply donated by the
Speaker 4: Ohio AAPS put a lid on It campaign. We want
Speaker 4: to put some helmets on some kids and for safe
Speaker 4: bike riding.
Speaker 1: Well that's great, so get there early so you don't
Speaker 1: run out and make sure you get yourself a free bike.
Speaker 1: Come while you're enjoying your free ConA ice and hot dog.
Speaker 1: Well you've got my mouth water and thinking about that
Speaker 1: now because they haven't anything to eat today. But in
Speaker 1: addition to that, you got some really cool other things like,
Speaker 1: for example, the SWAT Team's gonna show up.
Speaker 4: Right, We've got SWAT team bringing two of their vehicles,
Speaker 4: a armored vehicle and then their gear trucks, so you
Speaker 4: kids can come in kids are adults quite frankly, you
Speaker 4: can come in and check out see what kind of
Speaker 4: equipment they use. You might think the swat team has
Speaker 4: a lot of heavy weapons, and so I said, they do,
Speaker 4: but they actually use a ton of different tools and
Speaker 4: left lethal weapons because they want to come out and
Speaker 4: have a successful event where no one's actually hurt.
Speaker 1: You're gonna do a flash bang demonstration.
Speaker 4: I don't think there'll be a flash bang demonstration, but
Speaker 4: you know what, we do have a taser demonstration. I
Speaker 4: still looking for a volunteer for that. I don't know
Speaker 4: if you're interested.
Speaker 1: Well, you anticipated my question. I was joking this morning
Speaker 1: about that because I was kidding with Danny the producer today.
Speaker 1: I said, Danny, would you sign up to be the recipient?
Speaker 1: He's like, no, no, no, no. But my sister, who
Speaker 1: retired from Cincinni Police Department after thirty or twenty five,
Speaker 1: twenty six, twenty seven years, she was a lieutenant, spent
Speaker 1: an entire working career there, and she told me about
Speaker 1: when they had to do the taser because officers get
Speaker 1: tased as part of the training, so they know what
Speaker 1: it feels like and know what to expect. Right. She
Speaker 1: had a friend, one of her fellow cadets, a woman
Speaker 1: who actually enjoyed the experience. I thought that was greatly.
Speaker 1: I know there's all kinds out there.
Speaker 4: Many years ago in training, many many years ago as
Speaker 4: a young man, and it was probably the worst experience
Speaker 4: of my life.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't recommend it. No, I don't either. But
Speaker 1: there will be a taser.
Speaker 4: We won't be tasing a human. Uh, we'll takes the
Speaker 4: target in this circumstance. But it's still interesting for anyone
Speaker 4: that's ever wondered how they work. In addition to that,
Speaker 4: we have the canine from the Amberley Village PD coming out.
Speaker 4: Nine Armor Armour is going to do a demonstration for us,
Speaker 4: hopefully get a bite suit on somebody. And you know,
Speaker 4: everybody loves dogs. How these canines.
Speaker 1: Operate, what breed is is armor?
Speaker 4: You know, I don't know, but many of the common
Speaker 4: dogs are Belgian Malinois. Yeah if I pronounced that correctly,
Speaker 4: So many of the police working dogs are using those.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're so impressed that that's going to be a
Speaker 1: really cool demonstration. Plus you're going to have drones.
Speaker 4: Drones Springdale, we now have drones. So we have a
Speaker 4: couple of our drone operators coming out to do some demonstrations.
Speaker 4: And actually there's a Hamilton County drone team comprised of
Speaker 4: some fire departments and police departments that'll come out.
Speaker 1: And they'll have their drones.
Speaker 4: So this is fascinating technology. It is, and I actually
Speaker 4: just saw a demonstration on it recently that was just
Speaker 4: my mind was blown the ability of these things. And
Speaker 4: they're expensive and do a great job and really can
Speaker 4: take the place of officers when searching areas and things
Speaker 4: like that, you know, really cut down on personnel. So
Speaker 4: it's a really nice cool.
Speaker 1: To have, Oh, I imagine, and they're so technologically advanced.
Speaker 1: I know they have racing teams with drones and I've
Speaker 1: seen them go through tunnels and in and out of
Speaker 1: all I mean just really tight spaces. And I imagine
Speaker 1: I'm not sure to what degree you use the drones
Speaker 1: right now, but I mean if you had to like
Speaker 1: do a building search, you can fly these drones around
Speaker 1: in pretty tight space. Is like if you're searching for
Speaker 1: somebody you know.
Speaker 4: Understanding is the SWAT teams using them to search inside
Speaker 4: of thousands and things with search warrants. Instead of them
Speaker 4: having to go into unsafe situations, they can send a
Speaker 4: drone in.
Speaker 1: That's really cool, very cool. And you're gonna have the
Speaker 1: dive team there as well.
Speaker 4: Yep, we'll actually have a boat there's it'll be on
Speaker 4: the trailer. But the dive team has some pretty interesting equipment,
Speaker 4: you know, of course, lots of scuba gear and stuff
Speaker 4: that they use, radar, different tools. Honestly, I'm not an
Speaker 4: expert on it, but to search underwater to recover cars,
Speaker 4: but not only that, much smaller items evidence like handguns
Speaker 4: and things like that, and of course sometimes.
Speaker 1: They recover people. Yes, they do.
Speaker 4: Tough part of the job, but somebody's got to do it.
Speaker 4: And they are experts in the field, that's for sure.
Speaker 4: So we appreciate them coming out.
Speaker 1: All right. I also understand you'd be doing some crime
Speaker 1: prevention tips and also recruiting opportunity is going to be
Speaker 1: there as.
Speaker 4: Well, right, So, I mean, we have upwards of nearly
Speaker 4: thirty policet ads and he's coming so oh wow. I
Speaker 4: wouldn't say it's yeah, I wouldn't say it's necessarily geared
Speaker 4: towards recruiting, but there are representatives here from the Great
Speaker 4: Oaks Police Academy, so they can certainly do some recruiting.
Speaker 4: But if you were interested in a career in law enforcement,
Speaker 4: what better place to come and you know, introduce yourself
Speaker 4: or get some business cards or things like that. From
Speaker 4: where there's like thirty different police agencies. It's a great
Speaker 4: opportunity for anyone to come and get some name and
Speaker 4: face recognition. So I highly encourage that. And then a
Speaker 4: lot of our all these police departments, you know, they
Speaker 4: have lots of free trinkets and such to give away.
Speaker 4: I know we have whistles that we're giving away, and
Speaker 4: ink pens and all kinds of stuff, so there will
Speaker 4: be tons of stuff to give away, most of it
Speaker 4: geared towards kids. But you will not leave this event
Speaker 4: empty handed.
Speaker 1: I'm sure you're going to be impressed by the showing
Speaker 1: of that we have here and the various officers from
Speaker 1: these various different agencies. Plus and get you back to recruiting. Obviously,
Speaker 1: there is more to being a police officer there than
Speaker 1: you know, showing up and patrolling the streets and walking
Speaker 1: a beat. You've got all these other areas you could
Speaker 1: end up with, and so it may be rather appealing
Speaker 1: to see that for some people who might be considering
Speaker 1: a career in law enforcement. Well, it's going to be
Speaker 1: happening again tomorrow Springdale Community Center one one nine nine
Speaker 1: nine lawn View Avenue in Springdale, Hile, of course, beginning
Speaker 1: at noon lasting until three. Get your free ConA ice,
Speaker 1: get your free dogs, get your free bike helmet and
Speaker 1: a lot of the chum will be offering out like
Speaker 1: that whistle he mentioned. But also get the chance to
Speaker 1: see all this equipment and meet some of the officers
Speaker 1: and thank them for their service to the community while
Speaker 1: you're at it. I hope people do that. Keenan reared
Speaker 1: and community service officer, has been great talking with you.
Speaker 1: I'm glad to have the have you on the program
Speaker 1: to spread the word about this wonderful event.
Speaker 4: Thank you, sir, Appreciate you and always appreciate your support.
Speaker 1: For law enforcement, anytime of the day, anytime of the week.
Speaker 1: My friend, I'm always here for law enforcement. Take care
Speaker 1: of yourself. Thank you. Hey forty four fifty five KRCDE
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Speaker 1: I'm still I still am in disbelief and just kind
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Speaker 1: Barack Obama or Joe Biden or some other Democrat president,
Speaker 1: if they'd gotten away with it. But James Comy, you
Speaker 1: remember James Comedy, former ex FBI director that was let
Speaker 1: go by Donald Trump. I guess he's got a bit
Speaker 1: of a chip on his shoulder, since some people believe
Speaker 1: he issued a message suggesting someone should assassinate Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: He posted on social media photograph of some shells and
Speaker 1: stones up on the lining up on the beach with
Speaker 1: the number eighty six, follow the number forty followed by
Speaker 1: the number forty seven. Many and that eighty six meaning
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Speaker 1: when you eighty six something, that's exactly what that means.
Speaker 1: Forty seven, of course, suggesting President Donald Trump, since he's
Speaker 1: the forty seven president of the United States of America.
Speaker 1: Posted with a caption this photograph of stones and shells
Speaker 1: in the sand, cool shell formation on my beach walk.
Speaker 1: H So, when word hit and this thing went viral,
Speaker 1: and people are going like, wait a second, is the
Speaker 1: former FBI director suggesting someone actually eighty six the president
Speaker 1: of United States of America. He took it down and
Speaker 1: he left this caption, removing any doubt that he knew
Speaker 1: exactly why he put it up there in the first place.
Speaker 1: I posted earlier a picture of some shells I saw
Speaker 1: today on a beach walk, which I assumed were a
Speaker 1: political message. I didn't realize some folks associate those numbers
Speaker 1: with violence. It never occurred to me, but I opposed
Speaker 1: any kind of violence any kind, So I took the
Speaker 1: post down. You can't talk out of both sides of
Speaker 1: your mouth on this. I assumed it was a political
Speaker 1: message when he posted it. If you're not talking about
Speaker 1: eighty six ing the forty seven president the United States
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Speaker 1: found this on the beach. This is reprehensible. No one
Speaker 1: ever suggests this. It's a bad thing to suggest killing
Speaker 1: the President United States of America, and others observed, like
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Speaker 1: Political and Public Affairs. He pointed out Trump's traveling in
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Speaker 1: who I presume has a number of people following him.
Speaker 1: For a sitting president who fights against Islamic terrorism and fundamentalism,
Speaker 1: Donald Trump's not a beloved person in the Middle East,
Speaker 1: probably the worst possible place he could ever be when
Speaker 1: it comes to people maybe making threats on his life alone.
Speaker 1: For those reasons, James Blaer said, this is a clarion
Speaker 1: call from Jim coming to terrorists and hostile regimes to
Speaker 1: kill the President of the United States as he travels
Speaker 1: in the Middle East. Any Democrat or media outlet who
Speaker 1: fails to condemn this clear incitement of violence is complicit
Speaker 1: and must be described as such.
Speaker 7: Well.
Speaker 1: So far, I will point out, and I haven't stayed
Speaker 1: up on it since I got up this morning and
Speaker 1: read this horrific story, which I guess broke last night.
Speaker 1: I haven't seen a lot of overwhelming reaction from the
Speaker 1: left wing mainstream news outlets on this one, condemning it.
Speaker 1: Er go, I'm with James Blair, They're complicit.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: We live in trouble times, don't we. Well, regardless of that,
Speaker 1: it is Friday, it is time to start thinking about
Speaker 1: the weekend. I hope you got some great plans tonight,
Speaker 1: tomorrow night, maybe Sunday. And of course you got the
Speaker 1: the Law Enforcement Expo. The details at fifty five KRC
Speaker 1: dot com. I want to thank you Danny Gleeson for
Speaker 1: covering for him for Joe Strekker while he's out today.
Speaker 1: Tech Friday with Dave Hatter, if you ging a chance
Speaker 1: to listen live talk about Chinese infiltration of our equipment.
Speaker 1: We also talked about bitcoin fraud in Arizona. I don't
Speaker 1: know how people fall for that one. Apple supporting brain
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Speaker 1: app also a frightening things data hell away from it.
Speaker 1: Summarizing my conversation with Dave Hatter, Todd Zinzerg in studio
Speaker 1: for a full hour talking about shenanigans going on in
Speaker 1: the city of Cincinnati, and he just lays it out
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Speaker 1: at fifty five KRS dot com. Again, have a wonderful weekend, folks,
Speaker 1: Thanks for tuning in today, and stick around because Glen
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