WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.160 --> 00:00:47.119 Oh bed of Fessor, Hello and welcome to the show. 2 00:00:47.439 --> 00:00:51.200 This is the Occult of Conspiracy and my name is Jonathan, 3 00:00:51.560 --> 00:00:54.719 I'm Jacob, and today we bring back your boy Josh 4 00:00:54.759 --> 00:00:59.039 Anthony of the Incursion podcast show. What do you call it? 5 00:00:59.520 --> 00:01:02.719 Well, it's yes, it's the podcast now, but yeah, I 6 00:01:02.759 --> 00:01:03.600 call it just a show. 7 00:01:03.759 --> 00:01:04.719 So it's just a show now. 8 00:01:04.719 --> 00:01:07.400 It's an extension of the new direction I'm going in 9 00:01:07.879 --> 00:01:08.840 hell Yeah. 10 00:01:08.519 --> 00:01:12.560 Awesome man. Well, if anybody remembers we had him on 11 00:01:12.640 --> 00:01:15.599 before when he was part of the Mind's Eye podcast. 12 00:01:15.680 --> 00:01:18.799 Such a fun conversation that was. I believe it actually 13 00:01:18.840 --> 00:01:21.799 went a little trippy, and I kind of had a 14 00:01:21.840 --> 00:01:23.760 feeling that it was going to get a little trippy tonight. 15 00:01:23.840 --> 00:01:25.959 Hence the background right here. You know, we had to 16 00:01:25.959 --> 00:01:28.680 get a little crazy up in this bach because we're 17 00:01:28.799 --> 00:01:30.200 I mean, I don't know where we're going to go. 18 00:01:30.200 --> 00:01:32.040 I'm not trying to necessarily steer it in some kind 19 00:01:32.079 --> 00:01:34.760 of direction, but I imagine that it's going to get a 20 00:01:34.799 --> 00:01:42.840 little lucid always. So, now that you've transitioned to the 21 00:01:43.079 --> 00:01:46.319 Incursion Podcast, now, can you tell us a little bit 22 00:01:46.319 --> 00:01:49.040 about that show and maybe the direction you're hoping to 23 00:01:49.079 --> 00:01:49.359 take it. 24 00:01:50.200 --> 00:01:54.200 Yeah, So the direction is what I call the natural revolution. 25 00:01:54.719 --> 00:01:58.200 Like I said before we started the Mind's Eye. When 26 00:01:58.200 --> 00:02:01.120 I first started, it was meant to enlighten people with 27 00:02:01.239 --> 00:02:04.519 information and to give them, you know, things that they 28 00:02:04.560 --> 00:02:07.760 could use in their real life. But then it started deviating. 29 00:02:07.920 --> 00:02:12.199 So after the deviation, I decided to bring it back, 30 00:02:12.439 --> 00:02:15.360 and then now I'm calling it incursion because now it's 31 00:02:15.439 --> 00:02:18.520 like a like a direct like, Okay, now you learn 32 00:02:18.560 --> 00:02:21.639 all this stuff, this is how you actually implement it now. 33 00:02:21.759 --> 00:02:26.360 So the direction I'm going in is more necessarily how 34 00:02:26.400 --> 00:02:31.800 to actually, you know, change your life. I know that 35 00:02:31.879 --> 00:02:34.639 sounds like crazy and broad, and it sounds maybe too 36 00:02:34.840 --> 00:02:39.400 like rule or like guru like, but it's more about 37 00:02:39.400 --> 00:02:42.319 teaching like the same spiritual concepts that got me into 38 00:02:42.360 --> 00:02:44.360 the Mind's Eye in the first place after I had 39 00:02:44.400 --> 00:02:47.280 my first shroom trip. And now I'm kind of bringing 40 00:02:47.280 --> 00:02:49.280 it back now that I'm twenty five, I feel like 41 00:02:49.800 --> 00:02:52.560 my brain's fully developed and I'm actually using it for 42 00:02:52.639 --> 00:02:53.240 good now. 43 00:02:53.680 --> 00:02:56.400 No, So I mean, hey, that's they say, it's you know, 44 00:02:56.719 --> 00:02:58.960 for men especially, it takes our brains a little bit 45 00:02:58.960 --> 00:03:01.719 longer to fully dive and evolved to what it's supposed 46 00:03:01.759 --> 00:03:03.800 to be and I'm not gonna lie to Whenever I 47 00:03:03.840 --> 00:03:07.479 was twenty five, I was a fucking idiot. Like I 48 00:03:07.840 --> 00:03:12.000 was not interested in anything outside of football and chicks 49 00:03:12.159 --> 00:03:16.080 and you know, just the the I don't know, just 50 00:03:16.319 --> 00:03:19.599 bottom not necessarily bottom of the barrel kind of stuff. 51 00:03:19.599 --> 00:03:21.680 But I didn't really have a direction with my life. 52 00:03:21.759 --> 00:03:24.080 I was kind of just being fun and lucy goosey 53 00:03:24.159 --> 00:03:28.120 with a lot of things. And then something happened, dude, 54 00:03:28.120 --> 00:03:31.080 where I started listening to other podcasts and things and 55 00:03:31.199 --> 00:03:33.080 started to open up my mind a little bit. And 56 00:03:34.400 --> 00:03:36.960 you know, here we are five years later, damn near August, 57 00:03:37.039 --> 00:03:39.719 it'll be five years the culture of conspiracy has been around, baby. 58 00:03:40.000 --> 00:03:40.960 That's true, right. 59 00:03:41.000 --> 00:03:42.919 But that's the thing, though, we didn't start this when 60 00:03:42.919 --> 00:03:45.639 we were in our mid twenties, because we started this 61 00:03:45.719 --> 00:03:48.919 I think late twenties, early thirties somewhere in there. 62 00:03:49.280 --> 00:03:50.680 Yeah, sh I'm trying to think. 63 00:03:50.680 --> 00:03:53.400 When I was twenty five, I had direction in my life, 64 00:03:53.400 --> 00:03:55.560 but I was not in the direction I needed to 65 00:03:55.599 --> 00:03:55.960 be on. 66 00:03:56.479 --> 00:03:56.680 Right. 67 00:03:56.719 --> 00:03:59.719 I was still married to the first wife, I was 68 00:03:59.759 --> 00:04:02.199 in college. I had just gotten out of the Marine 69 00:04:02.199 --> 00:04:04.560 Corps a few years back. I was trying to get 70 00:04:04.560 --> 00:04:07.000 my second degree in a field that I could not 71 00:04:07.080 --> 00:04:09.039 give a fuck less about. But it was where the 72 00:04:09.080 --> 00:04:10.919 money was, you know. And I was trying to get 73 00:04:10.919 --> 00:04:13.319 a job with decent money. And that's how that goes. 74 00:04:13.360 --> 00:04:16.480 But yeah, and that's the crazy thing too. You look 75 00:04:16.519 --> 00:04:18.600 back at who you are now as opposed to who 76 00:04:18.639 --> 00:04:21.199 you were five years ago, ten years ago. 77 00:04:21.680 --> 00:04:25.040 I can't wait to be fifty and look back on right. 78 00:04:24.879 --> 00:04:28.560 Now and see how far we have, you know, doubled 79 00:04:28.600 --> 00:04:31.160 down on certain things, veered away from certain things, whatever 80 00:04:31.160 --> 00:04:33.160 the case is, and be like, man, we thought we 81 00:04:33.279 --> 00:04:35.600 had things figured out at this point. Because I'll tell 82 00:04:35.639 --> 00:04:37.600 you this, dude, now heard I saw this meme. It 83 00:04:37.639 --> 00:04:41.839 was like, nobody is more confident than a nineteen year old. Like, boy, 84 00:04:42.360 --> 00:04:45.360 a nineteen year old just knows what the fuck is up. 85 00:04:45.480 --> 00:04:47.959 You can't tell them nothing they don't already know. And 86 00:04:48.000 --> 00:04:49.720 I'm like, boy, if that's not true. 87 00:04:50.199 --> 00:04:52.800 Yeah, And that's the thing is that, you know, for 88 00:04:52.959 --> 00:04:56.199 the longest time, I was just going with no real direction. 89 00:04:56.519 --> 00:04:58.720 I didn't really give a fuck about, you know, the 90 00:04:59.360 --> 00:05:04.279 politic for sure, and I didn't really have a spiritual 91 00:05:04.519 --> 00:05:08.199 I mean, I had a spiritual curiosity, but that's all 92 00:05:08.199 --> 00:05:10.279 it was. It was just like a dabbling. I think 93 00:05:10.319 --> 00:05:12.439 at that time, I was like, that was whenever I 94 00:05:12.519 --> 00:05:14.839 was going to church. Actually I was that's whenever I 95 00:05:14.879 --> 00:05:16.399 was interested in going to church. And I was going 96 00:05:16.439 --> 00:05:19.160 to church every Sunday, just trying to figure it out. 97 00:05:19.199 --> 00:05:21.560 And I liked it. And you know, the people were 98 00:05:21.560 --> 00:05:24.639 cool and the pastor was cool or priests pastor. Yeah, 99 00:05:24.680 --> 00:05:28.519 it was pretty cool. But you know, it's like it's 100 00:05:28.560 --> 00:05:30.560 like anything else. You know, you just grow over time 101 00:05:30.600 --> 00:05:33.759 and you become interested in new topics and new things, 102 00:05:33.800 --> 00:05:37.319 and those things eventually evolve into new ideas and everything. 103 00:05:37.360 --> 00:05:40.399 And I mean, dude, it's it's a wild ride. It's 104 00:05:40.399 --> 00:05:43.160 a wild ride. So it's it's a completely night and 105 00:05:43.240 --> 00:05:46.600 day difference. I'm thirty five now, twenty five year old me. 106 00:05:47.040 --> 00:05:48.720 I don't even fucking know that guy anymore. 107 00:05:48.800 --> 00:05:51.920 Dude, facts, big facts now, just crazy. 108 00:05:53.040 --> 00:05:55.240 That's kind of what started you in this podcasting journey. 109 00:05:55.319 --> 00:05:58.279 Was your first mushroom trip right now, for anybody, I 110 00:05:58.319 --> 00:06:00.240 don't even remember if you told us the entire story 111 00:06:00.279 --> 00:06:01.240 of it on the first go round. 112 00:06:01.240 --> 00:06:02.560 I believe you touched on it, right. 113 00:06:03.000 --> 00:06:05.160 How long ago was it when you had your first 114 00:06:05.360 --> 00:06:08.000 real mushroom trip, your first hero's dose of it if 115 00:06:08.000 --> 00:06:08.319 you will. 116 00:06:08.480 --> 00:06:13.120 Oh, man, I think I was nineteen twenty years old 117 00:06:13.439 --> 00:06:16.399 something like that. And I went to and I did 118 00:06:16.439 --> 00:06:18.240 it in the frat house, which is probably the worst 119 00:06:18.279 --> 00:06:19.040 place to do it. 120 00:06:19.279 --> 00:06:20.800 Oh God, were you a part of the fret? 121 00:06:21.160 --> 00:06:25.000 No? I was not. Okay, friend, I was asking no judgment, 122 00:06:25.040 --> 00:06:27.560 but you know, yeah, I definitely was not. But my 123 00:06:27.600 --> 00:06:28.160 friend was. 124 00:06:28.480 --> 00:06:33.759 Until this day, he won't elaborate on what happened, but so, yeah, 125 00:06:33.800 --> 00:06:37.279 So it wasn't. Stonybrook, which is a college in Long 126 00:06:37.279 --> 00:06:37.800 Island for. 127 00:06:37.759 --> 00:06:38.680 Anyone that doesn't know. 128 00:06:39.279 --> 00:06:42.160 And me and my best friend Santiago, who was also 129 00:06:42.240 --> 00:06:45.120 a co host of The Mind's Eye, we drove down 130 00:06:45.160 --> 00:06:47.839 there and we went to have a party and then 131 00:06:48.600 --> 00:06:52.920 Devin which was his name, he was like, yo, I 132 00:06:52.959 --> 00:06:55.759 got something for you, and I was like, okay, what's up? 133 00:06:56.560 --> 00:07:01.160 And he showed us and it was penis envy mushrooms. 134 00:07:01.600 --> 00:07:04.199 Oh no, you've had apes your first go round? 135 00:07:04.480 --> 00:07:08.439 Yes, yo, No, boy, I didn't realize right into the 136 00:07:08.519 --> 00:07:09.240 deep end, didn't you. 137 00:07:09.360 --> 00:07:10.360 That's what I said. 138 00:07:10.360 --> 00:07:12.680 I didn't realize it was the strongest, one of the 139 00:07:12.720 --> 00:07:15.000 strongest strains out there. So I was like, you know, 140 00:07:15.040 --> 00:07:19.240 it's whatever, it's mushrooms, right, So he gave me an 141 00:07:19.240 --> 00:07:25.240 eighth each and we started watching Animal Planet, right, And 142 00:07:25.360 --> 00:07:26.279 that's not a bad. 143 00:07:26.079 --> 00:07:29.680 Course of action unless unless it was like Predator in 144 00:07:29.759 --> 00:07:32.439 praise style Animal Planet on shrooms, that would fuck me up. 145 00:07:32.439 --> 00:07:35.040 But if it was like, yeah, see ocean, I'm looking 146 00:07:35.040 --> 00:07:37.399 at like Dory in the coral reef yo, that. 147 00:07:37.399 --> 00:07:40.160 Would be that'd be flying now we saw I was 148 00:07:40.199 --> 00:07:43.319 watching like this panda one. But what happened is that 149 00:07:43.600 --> 00:07:47.560 my my friend some Thiago, he just got up and 150 00:07:47.680 --> 00:07:51.079 just ran straight to the bathroom. And him moving to 151 00:07:51.160 --> 00:07:53.319 the bathroom that fast kind of freaked me out. So 152 00:07:53.360 --> 00:07:56.519 I went and followed him and he was like, yo, 153 00:07:56.560 --> 00:07:58.000 there's vomiting my pants. 154 00:07:58.120 --> 00:08:04.160 And I was like, what what do you mean? What 155 00:08:04.240 --> 00:08:04.879 you mean, bro? 156 00:08:05.079 --> 00:08:06.879 He was like, it's like coming home from the bar 157 00:08:06.920 --> 00:08:09.519 and telling you what. I don't know who's shipping these pants. 158 00:08:12.160 --> 00:08:18.199 Somebody shipped my pants. I don't know where, but yeah, 159 00:08:18.240 --> 00:08:20.000 he told me that. I was like, bro, are you good? 160 00:08:20.040 --> 00:08:21.839 And then he was like, yo, I think it's hit. 161 00:08:21.920 --> 00:08:23.879 And then once he said that, it clicked in my 162 00:08:23.959 --> 00:08:27.920 head and it started making me trimp man. So you know, 163 00:08:28.000 --> 00:08:32.000 What's funny is every time I revisit this moment in 164 00:08:32.039 --> 00:08:34.759 my mind, I start to rediscover things that I just, 165 00:08:35.000 --> 00:08:37.360 you know, passed by when I was younger, because I 166 00:08:37.399 --> 00:08:39.919 was just, you know, you just got out the trip. 167 00:08:39.960 --> 00:08:44.440 There's no time to evaluate, right sure, So but I 168 00:08:44.559 --> 00:08:50.080 realized not recently, but after we started tripping balls, all 169 00:08:50.159 --> 00:08:53.080 his friends started coming home to the like from the frat, 170 00:08:53.399 --> 00:08:55.200 and they just were like, you know how dudes are 171 00:08:55.240 --> 00:08:57.120 like an house like they were just like doing their 172 00:08:57.360 --> 00:08:59.519 their bro stuff, and I'm just like, oh man, I'm 173 00:08:59.519 --> 00:09:01.159 like tripping right now. 174 00:09:02.000 --> 00:09:03.000 And there was this. 175 00:09:03.000 --> 00:09:06.519 Giant like custodian garbage can in the middle of this 176 00:09:06.679 --> 00:09:10.559 dining room and me and some Thiago started walking around 177 00:09:10.600 --> 00:09:12.559 it for like two hours. 178 00:09:12.840 --> 00:09:13.440 A kid, you not. 179 00:09:13.519 --> 00:09:15.480 We walked in around it for two hours and we 180 00:09:15.519 --> 00:09:18.200 couldn't leave it, and we're like, yo. 181 00:09:18.240 --> 00:09:22.720 Like fucking Mecca, dude. Yeah, we were just walking and 182 00:09:22.799 --> 00:09:24.799 we realized it too. We looked at each other. 183 00:09:24.879 --> 00:09:26.679 We're like, yo, we're walking around this trash can and 184 00:09:26.679 --> 00:09:29.080 we're like yeah, and we're like, why can't we leave? 185 00:09:29.399 --> 00:09:32.639 And then we're just walking around this trash can. So 186 00:09:33.679 --> 00:09:36.679 eventually Somethiogra just got up and just walked away. And 187 00:09:36.720 --> 00:09:39.279 I was like, oh, wow, you could walk away, and 188 00:09:39.360 --> 00:09:43.519 then I walked away, and then I realized that it 189 00:09:43.600 --> 00:09:45.720 was kind of symbolic. And it sounds maybe like some 190 00:09:45.799 --> 00:09:47.519 high shit that I'm about to say right now, but 191 00:09:47.960 --> 00:09:51.000 like I realized that I was revolving around my shit 192 00:09:51.120 --> 00:09:53.360 that was on me at the time, and I just 193 00:09:53.720 --> 00:09:56.240 thought that I couldn't escape it. And then when I 194 00:09:56.320 --> 00:09:57.960 did that in this shroom trip, I kind of like 195 00:09:58.000 --> 00:09:58.960 broke old habits. 196 00:09:59.000 --> 00:10:01.600 Actually stopped smoking right after that shromp trip. 197 00:10:02.240 --> 00:10:05.120 Wow, And I haven't smoked since it's been about yeah, 198 00:10:05.279 --> 00:10:08.399 about four almost five years now since I smoked weed. 199 00:10:09.279 --> 00:10:12.240 Man, stuff like that. Like, dude, Now, that's the thing 200 00:10:12.360 --> 00:10:14.759 is that you know these uh mushroom trip trips are 201 00:10:14.759 --> 00:10:18.039 any kind of psychedelic trips, they're they're teachers, dude, you know, 202 00:10:18.159 --> 00:10:21.759 like they're they're the the great ancient teachers that will. 203 00:10:22.279 --> 00:10:24.919 I mean, they're not even teaching you anything. They're just 204 00:10:24.960 --> 00:10:27.200 giving you a little bit of a different perspective so 205 00:10:27.240 --> 00:10:31.159 that you can learn from yourself essentially. And that's one thing. 206 00:10:31.200 --> 00:10:34.480 It's so symbolic because you'll be sitting there thinking like, man, 207 00:10:34.559 --> 00:10:36.919 like why am I seeing this, like, what is what 208 00:10:37.039 --> 00:10:39.200 is the deal? Why is it making me feel this way? 209 00:10:39.279 --> 00:10:41.399 And you just sit with it, dude. I mean, and 210 00:10:41.480 --> 00:10:44.039 some people go down into like a dark rabbit hole 211 00:10:44.080 --> 00:10:45.919 and then they have a bad trip because they can't 212 00:10:45.919 --> 00:10:48.039 figure it out or they they can't get over that 213 00:10:48.159 --> 00:10:50.000 hump in their life or whatever the case may be. 214 00:10:50.600 --> 00:10:54.120 And but once you do, dude, it's like, oh that's it. 215 00:10:54.120 --> 00:10:59.679 It's like there's have you heard of IBA? Gain No, dude, 216 00:10:59.759 --> 00:11:02.360 I again is like a dude that's a motherfucker of 217 00:11:02.399 --> 00:11:05.720 a psychedelic. It's like, dude, it's like way more crazy 218 00:11:05.759 --> 00:11:10.600 than even ayahuasca because it because it forces you to 219 00:11:10.960 --> 00:11:12.960 look at yourself in the mirror and help you like 220 00:11:13.039 --> 00:11:14.720 get over whatever it is. And a lot of people 221 00:11:14.799 --> 00:11:19.559 that are you know, addicted to drugs or even nicotine 222 00:11:19.639 --> 00:11:22.279 or anything like you, they say it's like almost a 223 00:11:22.360 --> 00:11:25.159 guarantee you go through a weekend trip with IB again. 224 00:11:25.360 --> 00:11:27.879 I think it's found in jungle somewhere. I have no 225 00:11:27.919 --> 00:11:30.960 idea where the fuck it's from, but they they say, 226 00:11:31.000 --> 00:11:33.159 you go, it's like a weekend thing, Like you're literally 227 00:11:33.200 --> 00:11:35.480 tripping for fucking two or three days, dude, Like it's 228 00:11:35.919 --> 00:11:37.559 like NonStop and. 229 00:11:37.840 --> 00:11:39.440 Yeah, you ain't coming out of that the same way 230 00:11:39.480 --> 00:11:44.000 you went in. That's that's impossible, right or something. 231 00:11:44.960 --> 00:11:47.759 It's not like DMT, but it's I mean, it's not DMT, 232 00:11:48.000 --> 00:11:51.399 but it's something else like and it's just called IB again. 233 00:11:51.480 --> 00:11:53.240 And I guess they're trying to get it past here 234 00:11:53.279 --> 00:11:55.840 in the United States for like clinical and therapeutic use 235 00:11:56.159 --> 00:11:58.240 for people who are trying to like get off a 236 00:11:58.279 --> 00:12:01.320 heroin or get off of whatever the case may be. 237 00:12:01.480 --> 00:12:04.039 And do anotherbody looking at it for PTSD. 238 00:12:04.519 --> 00:12:07.080 Actually, I was gonna say that I spoke to this 239 00:12:07.120 --> 00:12:10.159 guy named Josh from psych X. He has this company 240 00:12:10.159 --> 00:12:13.879 where he does like, uh, you know, he does these 241 00:12:14.879 --> 00:12:18.480 mushroom things for you know, vets that have PTSD, and 242 00:12:18.519 --> 00:12:20.320 I think he mentioned that before, but I just kind 243 00:12:20.320 --> 00:12:20.799 of forgot. 244 00:12:21.320 --> 00:12:23.519 It's it's got that's the thing with it. 245 00:12:23.639 --> 00:12:29.000 No, Two PTSD patients had the same triggers, had the 246 00:12:29.000 --> 00:12:32.200 same traumas, And it's it's very case by case. I 247 00:12:32.240 --> 00:12:35.240 personally know guys that went on an ayahuasca retreat for 248 00:12:35.279 --> 00:12:38.000 a weekend and they came back not saying they're healed 249 00:12:38.000 --> 00:12:39.440 from their PTSD. 250 00:12:38.960 --> 00:12:42.039 But completely like it's they know what to do with it. Now. 251 00:12:42.399 --> 00:12:44.960 I know other guys that it kicked off a whole 252 00:12:45.039 --> 00:12:47.399 worse version of their PTSD and they have to go 253 00:12:47.440 --> 00:12:49.559 to therapy for it. So it's it's very up in 254 00:12:49.600 --> 00:12:52.120 the air. But on a case by case basis, man, 255 00:12:52.159 --> 00:12:55.159 there are a lot of people who swear that they 256 00:12:55.159 --> 00:12:58.480 have had positive experiences from it. So I don't know 257 00:12:58.480 --> 00:13:02.200 about Ibagain, I've heard that the VA is looking at it, 258 00:13:02.240 --> 00:13:06.200 but I believe that they would be more uh more 259 00:13:06.240 --> 00:13:09.639 inclined to ayahuasca at this moment than I begame because 260 00:13:09.679 --> 00:13:11.600 of the intensity, you know what I mean. 261 00:13:12.039 --> 00:13:15.360 But you know, the jury say that with the intensity 262 00:13:15.399 --> 00:13:19.440 of ayahuasca, because I'm thinking ayahuasca is the most intense, 263 00:13:19.559 --> 00:13:20.759 but apparently, but it's. 264 00:13:20.679 --> 00:13:23.120 Only lasts for like fifteen minutes to thirty minutes or 265 00:13:23.159 --> 00:13:23.600 something like. 266 00:13:23.600 --> 00:13:28.480 No, no, no, well iohuasca it is DMT, but it 267 00:13:28.519 --> 00:13:29.759 does last longer. 268 00:13:30.519 --> 00:13:31.639 All the retreats I've seen. 269 00:13:31.679 --> 00:13:33.919 It's it's only it only lasts like fifteen minutes, but 270 00:13:33.960 --> 00:13:36.159 it feels like it lasts like five hours, and you 271 00:13:36.200 --> 00:13:38.720 either get the pukes or the shits afterwards. 272 00:13:38.919 --> 00:13:41.720 So I don't I don't know. I've never experienced ayahuasca myself. 273 00:13:41.759 --> 00:13:43.679 I'm scared to try it. I don't even really want 274 00:13:43.679 --> 00:13:48.279 to look into it because I hear that it's like crazy. Dude, Yeah, 275 00:13:48.279 --> 00:13:51.039 I wanted to try it because you like purge and 276 00:13:51.080 --> 00:13:54.320 everything too, you know, which is actually pretty cool, because dude, 277 00:13:54.320 --> 00:13:57.080 I've heard stories where, you know, the once once the 278 00:13:57.120 --> 00:13:59.799 ayahuasca hits, so once you smoke it or I think 279 00:13:59.799 --> 00:14:02.879 it's tea actually so, but once once you drink it 280 00:14:03.639 --> 00:14:06.840 and it starts to hit, you'll you'll be met by 281 00:14:06.960 --> 00:14:10.960 some kind of somebody, some kind of something or whatever. 282 00:14:11.799 --> 00:14:15.720 Sometimes their machine elves and sometimes their spirits or whatever 283 00:14:15.759 --> 00:14:17.919 the fuck right could be even like a mirrored version 284 00:14:17.960 --> 00:14:21.240 of yourself, and that that entity or that thing or 285 00:14:21.240 --> 00:14:24.799 that person or whatever, that archetype will tell you like, look, 286 00:14:25.000 --> 00:14:27.440 the reason why you're you're having a hard time getting 287 00:14:27.480 --> 00:14:29.799 over this, or the reason why you're you're going through 288 00:14:29.799 --> 00:14:32.159 this or whatever, it's because you have this parasite in you. 289 00:14:32.600 --> 00:14:34.879 This is a crazy story. So this guy he goes, 290 00:14:34.919 --> 00:14:36.639 oh my god, I got this parasite in me. That's 291 00:14:36.639 --> 00:14:39.799 what's causing me to stay addicted to you know, sex 292 00:14:39.879 --> 00:14:43.039 or porn or drugs or or whatever it was. And 293 00:14:43.039 --> 00:14:46.000 and so the the the archetype was just like, look, 294 00:14:46.200 --> 00:14:48.240 I'm gonna I'm gonna get that out of you. And 295 00:14:48.320 --> 00:14:50.919 so he went to go purge himself. Like he went 296 00:14:50.960 --> 00:14:52.559 to go he had to shit and puke at the 297 00:14:52.559 --> 00:14:55.320 same time. And anybody it's ever gone through that, it sucks, dude, 298 00:14:55.720 --> 00:14:59.360 it sucks. And so whenever he did, he said he 299 00:15:00.080 --> 00:15:02.639 literally saw I mean he's tripping as he's watching it. 300 00:15:02.840 --> 00:15:05.799 But as he's tripping and watching it, he literally sees 301 00:15:05.919 --> 00:15:10.519 parasites come out of his puke and you become like 302 00:15:10.559 --> 00:15:13.080 superhealed from it. So I don't know, dude, like that 303 00:15:13.120 --> 00:15:15.879 whole parasite conversation, it's crazy. That's all we talk a 304 00:15:15.879 --> 00:15:19.039 lot about, Like ivermectin and what's the other one that 305 00:15:19.080 --> 00:15:22.360 people always talk about. But these things that to help 306 00:15:22.399 --> 00:15:24.039 you like get rid of your parasites. You know, in 307 00:15:24.080 --> 00:15:27.720 other countries, it's normal to like take a parasite kind 308 00:15:27.720 --> 00:15:30.600 of pill or whatever to purg yourself with these parasites. 309 00:15:30.639 --> 00:15:33.879 But that's not common practice over here at all. I 310 00:15:33.919 --> 00:15:36.720 mean other countries where their food isn't nearly as safe. 311 00:15:36.720 --> 00:15:38.399 And I'm not saying American food is safe for good 312 00:15:38.399 --> 00:15:41.200 for us, granted, but like in other countries where they 313 00:15:41.240 --> 00:15:43.879 really have nothing close to an FDA and your food 314 00:15:43.960 --> 00:15:46.200 is guaranteed gonna be riddled with parasites. 315 00:15:46.279 --> 00:15:47.919 Yeah, once a month, he might need to do that, 316 00:15:48.159 --> 00:15:51.519 But I don't know, you know, I agree with you, though. 317 00:15:51.600 --> 00:15:54.039 I feel like a lot of Americans have a very 318 00:15:54.039 --> 00:15:59.519 big stigma against anti parasitic cleanses after COVID and all 319 00:15:59.600 --> 00:16:02.279 that shit with Joe Rogan saying he took ivermectin and 320 00:16:02.320 --> 00:16:04.000 then the media ran with that and said he was 321 00:16:04.039 --> 00:16:07.600 taking horsty Warmer even though it's been safe to ingest 322 00:16:07.639 --> 00:16:10.799 by humans since it was you know, created and shit. 323 00:16:11.000 --> 00:16:14.399 But people have a weird stigma about different things, like, uh, 324 00:16:15.799 --> 00:16:17.960 I'm not saying I've ever done this, but i'd be curious. 325 00:16:18.000 --> 00:16:22.159 Like a coffee enema, right, are these things? 326 00:16:23.120 --> 00:16:25.320 There's so many people that rant and rave about all 327 00:16:25.360 --> 00:16:28.519 the health benefits of it, and some people swear by it. 328 00:16:28.559 --> 00:16:30.679 But you'd bring that up to your average every day 329 00:16:30.799 --> 00:16:32.639 Joe blow American and they look at you like you 330 00:16:32.639 --> 00:16:34.399 have a dick grown out of your forehead, and it's like, well, 331 00:16:34.399 --> 00:16:36.080 I mean, okay, sure. 332 00:16:36.080 --> 00:16:37.799 Yeah, well you got to make sure it's a green 333 00:16:37.840 --> 00:16:40.399 coffee anima too. It has to be like fresh. And 334 00:16:40.440 --> 00:16:43.080 that's what Lindsay from Roguays talks about. Dude, she does 335 00:16:43.120 --> 00:16:45.399 it regularly. I think she does it like every day 336 00:16:46.039 --> 00:16:48.080 or every other day or something crazy like that, and 337 00:16:48.639 --> 00:16:51.679 it sounds disgusting. I mean, you're literally like shoving a 338 00:16:51.720 --> 00:16:54.799 tube up your ass and then you look, look, you're 339 00:16:54.840 --> 00:16:57.320 literally shitting in a bucket. So I understand what people 340 00:16:57.320 --> 00:16:58.320 among us. 341 00:16:58.679 --> 00:17:05.640 Who among us has never butt chugged a beer Okay, okay, 342 00:17:05.839 --> 00:17:08.920 the person who hasn't soaked a tampon full of vodka 343 00:17:09.000 --> 00:17:10.640 and shoved it up there, it goes zero to a 344 00:17:10.759 --> 00:17:12.240 hundred with an quickness. 345 00:17:12.240 --> 00:17:14.599 Look, let's just let's just lose the ego here, Jens. 346 00:17:14.920 --> 00:17:17.119 That's that's an exit only for me, big dog. I 347 00:17:17.160 --> 00:17:23.960 don't know, but no, look I I just looked it 348 00:17:24.039 --> 00:17:25.680 up as so just so we can. I don't want 349 00:17:25.680 --> 00:17:28.440 to speak ignorantly about this IB again because there's like 350 00:17:28.799 --> 00:17:30.839 there's a lot of good that's coming from it, and 351 00:17:30.839 --> 00:17:32.200 I don't want to, you know, fuck it up. 352 00:17:32.240 --> 00:17:35.279 But do you like smoke it or do you like 353 00:17:35.279 --> 00:17:35.960 like drink it? 354 00:17:36.039 --> 00:17:37.519 Like, how do you even take that? I thought you 355 00:17:37.759 --> 00:17:39.400 ingested like a paste like peote? 356 00:17:39.440 --> 00:17:41.480 Talk to us John, I'm about to read it all right, 357 00:17:41.559 --> 00:17:44.119 So this is from chat GPT. I know Jacob thinks 358 00:17:44.119 --> 00:17:46.079 it's fake and gay and it's gonna take over the world, 359 00:17:46.119 --> 00:17:49.519 but but I don't think that. So you know, it 360 00:17:49.599 --> 00:17:51.640 to each their own. But anyway, it says ib a 361 00:17:51.680 --> 00:17:55.359 gain is a naturally occurring psychoactive compound found primarily in 362 00:17:55.440 --> 00:18:00.680 the root bark of the tabernnanth iboga plant, which is 363 00:18:00.799 --> 00:18:05.119 native to Central Africa, especially Gabon. It's most famous for 364 00:18:05.160 --> 00:18:10.319 its powerful anti addiction properties and its deep psycho spiritual effects. 365 00:18:10.759 --> 00:18:14.839 So it says i begain interacts with multiple neurotransmitter systems 366 00:18:15.880 --> 00:18:21.039 n m DA receptor antagonist like ketamine opioid receptor modulator, 367 00:18:21.079 --> 00:18:26.839 helps with withdraw serotonin reuptake inhibitor, and it influences DOPU. 368 00:18:27.640 --> 00:18:35.119 That's a word, dopamine urg dopaminergic systems. Okay, your dopamine systems. 369 00:18:36.119 --> 00:18:40.559 It helps with effects on addiction, so it interrupts opioid, cocaine, alcohol, 370 00:18:40.599 --> 00:18:44.000 and nicotine dependence, often described as a reset of the 371 00:18:44.000 --> 00:18:48.000 brain's addiction pathways, and it can eliminate withdrawal symptoms in 372 00:18:48.039 --> 00:18:52.799 a single session. Do you want to talk about like 373 00:18:53.279 --> 00:18:54.519 a real legit purge. 374 00:18:55.160 --> 00:18:58.000 It talks about the root bark of this tree, so 375 00:18:58.079 --> 00:18:59.319 it's like an extract. 376 00:18:59.440 --> 00:19:01.720 Is it a paste? Do you smoke it? 377 00:19:01.720 --> 00:19:06.000 It sounds similar to DMT DMTS comes from, well, a 378 00:19:06.039 --> 00:19:07.839 lot of people get it from this one root bark 379 00:19:07.880 --> 00:19:11.359 of actually a tree that's native in Texas by the way. Yeah, 380 00:19:12.599 --> 00:19:15.640 but it says it can reduce cravings and compulsive behavior 381 00:19:15.680 --> 00:19:21.000 for months afterward. Oh shit, it lasts twelve to thirty 382 00:19:21.039 --> 00:19:22.880 six out God. 383 00:19:22.599 --> 00:19:25.119 Good God, and you don't know if it's gonna stop 384 00:19:25.119 --> 00:19:26.480 at twelve to thirty. 385 00:19:26.240 --> 00:19:32.079 Six, often with lingering after effects. The experience is usually 386 00:19:32.960 --> 00:19:36.599 dream like rather than hallucinogenic, a lot like DMT. 387 00:19:37.480 --> 00:19:39.400 Oh, you got to make sure you got the clearance, 388 00:19:39.440 --> 00:19:42.039 and you got a shirpa to take you up the 389 00:19:42.839 --> 00:19:44.920 that you're on, like somebody's straight up take care of you. 390 00:19:44.960 --> 00:19:47.240 Make sure you don't get dehydrated, you don't wander off 391 00:19:47.279 --> 00:19:48.319 into traffic, like. 392 00:19:48.319 --> 00:19:53.599 Holy fuck, yeah it's the common experiences are intense life review, 393 00:19:53.839 --> 00:19:56.319 like a death and a rebirth kind of life review. 394 00:19:56.799 --> 00:20:00.279 You might see visions of ancestors, spirits or archetypes, a 395 00:20:00.319 --> 00:20:04.519 sense of traveling through symbolic realms, and deep introspection and 396 00:20:04.680 --> 00:20:08.160 insights about trauma and behavior. So it comes from the 397 00:20:08.400 --> 00:20:13.160 bwitty be witty religion b w I t I religion. 398 00:20:13.839 --> 00:20:16.839 So it says iboga is used in initiation, rights and 399 00:20:16.960 --> 00:20:20.759 spiritual healing by the witty people of Gabon, seen as 400 00:20:20.799 --> 00:20:25.640 a sacred medicine that allows communication with ancestors and spiritual realms, 401 00:20:25.799 --> 00:20:28.720 and it's viewed as a as a teacher plant, not 402 00:20:28.839 --> 00:20:32.880 for recreational use. However, in the United States it's a 403 00:20:32.920 --> 00:20:37.440 schedule one. So of course the fuck it is. Okay, 404 00:20:37.480 --> 00:20:39.720 So here we go. Okay. So yeah, I knew it 405 00:20:39.720 --> 00:20:42.240 wasn't fifteen minutes for aahuasca. So this is where it 406 00:20:42.240 --> 00:20:46.119 gets crazy, all right. So DMT lasts five to fifteen minutes. 407 00:20:47.240 --> 00:20:51.039 It only lasted two minutes for me. Psilocybin will last 408 00:20:51.079 --> 00:20:56.960 four to six hours. Of course, ayahuasca four to eight hours. See, 409 00:20:57.079 --> 00:20:59.480 that's that's where it's crazy, because DMT you're in and 410 00:20:59.480 --> 00:21:03.839 out in five minutes. Ayahuasca is DMT. It's a variation 411 00:21:03.920 --> 00:21:06.960 of DMT, and it lasts fucking four to eight hours. 412 00:21:07.039 --> 00:21:07.279 Dude. 413 00:21:07.519 --> 00:21:10.480 No, I mean, could you imagine, literally, dude, I went 414 00:21:10.720 --> 00:21:13.599 to the void for two minutes and it wrecked me 415 00:21:13.680 --> 00:21:16.279 for months. You know what I'm saying. Imagine going there 416 00:21:16.279 --> 00:21:19.599 for four to eight hours. Fuck that, I'm good. 417 00:21:20.160 --> 00:21:20.279 Bro. 418 00:21:20.400 --> 00:21:22.440 All these retreats I've heard of these guys going on, 419 00:21:22.519 --> 00:21:23.480 it didn't last. 420 00:21:23.359 --> 00:21:25.480 Even more than one hour. That's wild. 421 00:21:25.519 --> 00:21:28.839 I wonder if it's a dosage thing too, or it's 422 00:21:28.880 --> 00:21:31.440 how you ingested, because you can smoke ayahuasca or you 423 00:21:31.480 --> 00:21:34.079 can ingest it, right, So I wonder if maybe one 424 00:21:34.160 --> 00:21:37.079 is more of a fast acting and a fast metabolizing 425 00:21:37.160 --> 00:21:37.799 versus another. 426 00:21:37.920 --> 00:21:41.119 I don't know, maybe because yeah, I've always heard that 427 00:21:41.160 --> 00:21:45.759 it's a tea that you drink, so maybe yeah, me too. Actually, yeah, interesting, 428 00:21:45.799 --> 00:21:50.240 And then I begain. It says its primary use is addiction, interruption, 429 00:21:50.400 --> 00:21:53.359 and healing last twelve to thirty six hours, and the 430 00:21:53.400 --> 00:21:56.640 realm that you experience would be dream like and ancestral. 431 00:21:57.559 --> 00:22:03.160 So yeah, ancestral. And I'm sorry, Yeah, that's what That's 432 00:22:03.160 --> 00:22:04.960 what I said. It's just it sounded wrong. 433 00:22:05.359 --> 00:22:07.559 I just think you're on the same page, brother, that's all. 434 00:22:07.680 --> 00:22:08.119 That's all. 435 00:22:08.279 --> 00:22:10.960 Yeah, Like your sister's like giving you a fucking lap 436 00:22:11.000 --> 00:22:13.400 dance and they're like, dude, get away from me. What's 437 00:22:13.400 --> 00:22:13.759 going on? 438 00:22:17.880 --> 00:22:18.359 Yeah? 439 00:22:18.440 --> 00:22:21.240 Yeah, So but yeah, I mean it sounds kind of trippy, 440 00:22:21.279 --> 00:22:23.440 but I mean think about it though, Like the people 441 00:22:23.519 --> 00:22:26.279 that are coming down off of heroin, Oh my god, 442 00:22:26.319 --> 00:22:29.039 it's literally hell, like for weeks, you know, it's for 443 00:22:29.240 --> 00:22:31.839 weeks or sometimes even up to a month, maybe a 444 00:22:31.839 --> 00:22:33.359 month and a half, like it is you have to 445 00:22:33.359 --> 00:22:35.200 you almost have to put them in a fucking padded room. 446 00:22:35.440 --> 00:22:38.559 My own dude, my uncle was addicted to heroin. Like 447 00:22:38.680 --> 00:22:43.640 it was like nightmares, sweating, like full on rage, asshole 448 00:22:43.720 --> 00:22:47.759 and everything. Imagine this, You're tripping balls in this dream 449 00:22:47.920 --> 00:22:50.559 like realm, speaking to your ancestors for twelve to thirty 450 00:22:50.599 --> 00:22:52.519 six hours, and then you never think about it again. 451 00:22:53.480 --> 00:22:57.319 Like, yeah, that sounds awesome to me, but I was 452 00:22:57.359 --> 00:23:00.240 also thinking, but I was also thinking, like, you know, 453 00:23:00.279 --> 00:23:02.680 the costs of every everything has a cost, you know 454 00:23:02.720 --> 00:23:07.319 what I mean. So even though that that that medicine is, 455 00:23:07.400 --> 00:23:10.240 you know, has great benefits, like in that moment, it's 456 00:23:10.240 --> 00:23:12.680 probably hell for you, you know what I mean, Like, 457 00:23:12.720 --> 00:23:15.920 Oh yeah, that's probably that's probably some very intensive purging. 458 00:23:15.960 --> 00:23:17.200 It probably feels like you're dying. 459 00:23:17.839 --> 00:23:19.480 Yeah, But at the same time, we're talking about somebody 460 00:23:19.480 --> 00:23:22.640 who's got like a real addiction going on, Yeah, bro, 461 00:23:22.839 --> 00:23:25.039 thirty six hours and it could change your life forever. 462 00:23:25.240 --> 00:23:29.839 I know people who have had serious opioid addictions that bro. Yeah, 463 00:23:30.119 --> 00:23:31.839 absolutely lock them up in a padd room for thirty 464 00:23:31.880 --> 00:23:34.160 six hours and give them this rather than me getting 465 00:23:34.200 --> 00:23:35.400 to another fucking funeral. 466 00:23:35.440 --> 00:23:36.119 I'm here for it. 467 00:23:37.359 --> 00:23:40.279 Yeah. Yeah, And so hopefully they're really going to start 468 00:23:40.319 --> 00:23:42.359 to implement that in the United States. It really should 469 00:23:42.400 --> 00:23:46.359 be nobody's asking for, you know, uh, people just to 470 00:23:46.400 --> 00:23:48.079 be able to go and buy at a gas station 471 00:23:48.359 --> 00:23:49.599 or anything like that, like. 472 00:23:49.680 --> 00:23:55.079 Fuck using that recreationally. Hell wants to recrea lose their 473 00:23:55.200 --> 00:23:57.599 shit for three days. I mean maybe at a music festival, 474 00:23:57.599 --> 00:23:58.799 I could see, but then I feel like it would 475 00:23:58.880 --> 00:23:59.759 kill the music festival. 476 00:24:00.240 --> 00:24:01.960 You used to be able to get salvia at a 477 00:24:01.960 --> 00:24:05.119 gas station, m not that long ago. That was just 478 00:24:05.160 --> 00:24:09.200 a couple of years ago. And literally it's nightmare trips 479 00:24:09.240 --> 00:24:11.720 the entire time you're on Salvia, Like there's no good 480 00:24:11.759 --> 00:24:12.720 trip from Salvia. 481 00:24:13.200 --> 00:24:16.279 Yeah, I've actually heard of a good trip from Salvia either. 482 00:24:16.519 --> 00:24:17.359 That's what I've always heard. 483 00:24:18.160 --> 00:24:19.799 I've never I mean to be honest with you, I've 484 00:24:19.799 --> 00:24:21.960 never done much research into it. I know that it's 485 00:24:21.960 --> 00:24:24.640 a hallucinogenic and I've heard people say like, yeah, you 486 00:24:24.640 --> 00:24:27.319 should probably try that at least once, but I don't know. 487 00:24:27.599 --> 00:24:30.839 I've never heard positive or negative about it, so to speak. 488 00:24:31.039 --> 00:24:34.039 But yeah, wild things. I still want to try paoti though, 489 00:24:34.119 --> 00:24:35.039 but not just on my own. 490 00:24:35.079 --> 00:24:36.799 I want to go to like a Native American sweat 491 00:24:36.799 --> 00:24:39.799 lodge one of their ceremonies and they're giving it like 492 00:24:39.839 --> 00:24:42.480 to the kids and to the others. Everybody in attendance 493 00:24:42.480 --> 00:24:44.480 gets a little bit of a spoonful. I want to 494 00:24:44.480 --> 00:24:46.119 I want to vibe with it like that, you know, 495 00:24:46.200 --> 00:24:48.039 see what all the all the ruckus is about. 496 00:24:49.000 --> 00:24:52.720 Oh se Id, Actually do want to try that one day? Yeah, yeah, 497 00:24:52.759 --> 00:24:54.519 just to see, you know, because you hear about that 498 00:24:54.559 --> 00:24:56.240 as a kid. Dude, I don't even know how I 499 00:24:56.319 --> 00:24:59.160 heard about Payoti in the first time. That was just 500 00:24:59.240 --> 00:25:01.880 like something that was It's like everybody knew about Peyoti. 501 00:25:02.440 --> 00:25:04.279 Kind of like the lyrics of Colt forty five by 502 00:25:04.359 --> 00:25:06.160 afro Man. I don't think any of us ever actually 503 00:25:06.240 --> 00:25:08.799 learned the lyrics. We just all somehow knew the lyrics 504 00:25:08.799 --> 00:25:09.920 the first time we ever heard it. 505 00:25:09.920 --> 00:25:10.519 It's wild, dude. 506 00:25:10.559 --> 00:25:13.640 Afroman shot a download into all of our heads, dude. 507 00:25:13.680 --> 00:25:16.279 I mean essentially, but anyway away. 508 00:25:17.039 --> 00:25:19.359 So, yeah, do you still do psychedelics on a regular 509 00:25:19.359 --> 00:25:21.720 basis or was that kind of a big Heroes dose 510 00:25:21.759 --> 00:25:22.720 one and done for you? 511 00:25:22.839 --> 00:25:24.160 Where are you at with your job? 512 00:25:24.799 --> 00:25:28.079 I took an that didn't do another dose like a Bali. 513 00:25:28.200 --> 00:25:31.559 A year later, I took like this chocolate bar called 514 00:25:31.559 --> 00:25:34.839 the One Up Bar, and that was my last trip 515 00:25:34.880 --> 00:25:37.960 because that was pretty like intense and the whole bar, 516 00:25:38.039 --> 00:25:41.160 didn't you I hate the whole bar. Yeah, I don't know. 517 00:25:41.200 --> 00:25:45.319 That's I noticed that about myself, right, So, uh, I 518 00:25:46.079 --> 00:25:47.759 ate the bar first. I'd even want to eat the 519 00:25:47.799 --> 00:25:50.960 bar to that day. My santiago is that yoa's just 520 00:25:51.000 --> 00:25:53.039 eat it. And then halfway through the bar, I'm like, oh, well, 521 00:25:53.119 --> 00:25:56.480 let's just eat the rest, you know. So I ate 522 00:25:56.519 --> 00:25:59.440 the rest. And it was night in New York City. 523 00:26:00.119 --> 00:26:02.319 I don't know if anyone is like from New York 524 00:26:02.319 --> 00:26:05.119 City listening to this, but you know it's it's that's 525 00:26:05.160 --> 00:26:07.160 not really fun to be tripping balls at night in 526 00:26:07.200 --> 00:26:07.839 New York City. 527 00:26:08.519 --> 00:26:11.240 It depends what neighborhood were you in. So I lived 528 00:26:11.279 --> 00:26:14.079 in New York City more times I can get. 529 00:26:14.160 --> 00:26:16.240 I was in Washington Heights, so im oh. 530 00:26:16.079 --> 00:26:20.480 God, no, no, yeah, oh no, but think like maybe 531 00:26:20.519 --> 00:26:23.720 if we're in like in Boho, Yeah, you can trip 532 00:26:23.759 --> 00:26:26.720 balls and kind of walk around taking the night air nice. 533 00:26:26.880 --> 00:26:29.640 Yeah. Yeah, no, I was in Washington Heights, in a 534 00:26:29.759 --> 00:26:31.000 in a in a room. 535 00:26:32.319 --> 00:26:36.240 I'm in soho excuse me, South Street My bad anyway, but. 536 00:26:36.240 --> 00:26:38.039 Yeah, it was, it was. It was pretty intensive. 537 00:26:38.440 --> 00:26:40.640 The bar said it was only three and a half, 538 00:26:40.680 --> 00:26:42.680 but I'm thinking it was like five grams. I think 539 00:26:42.720 --> 00:26:46.279 they overdid it because I was tripping balls. I felt 540 00:26:46.319 --> 00:26:48.720 like I was in the matrix, like I felt like 541 00:26:48.839 --> 00:26:51.160 I was. When I looked out the window and I 542 00:26:51.200 --> 00:26:53.279 saw like the black sky. I felt like there was 543 00:26:53.319 --> 00:26:57.039 some being watching me through like a looking glass, and 544 00:26:57.079 --> 00:27:00.279 it was just like purposely watching me. And and I 545 00:27:00.319 --> 00:27:02.880 also saw my higher self. 546 00:27:02.920 --> 00:27:03.400 You could say. 547 00:27:03.400 --> 00:27:06.119 It kind of freaked me out that I saw that 548 00:27:06.160 --> 00:27:09.720 I was capable of infinite you know, good and infinite 549 00:27:09.880 --> 00:27:12.559 bad at the same time. It kind of like scrambled 550 00:27:12.599 --> 00:27:15.519 my brain for a minute. But yeah, that was my 551 00:27:15.599 --> 00:27:18.200 last trip and I didn't feel like I needed to 552 00:27:18.240 --> 00:27:20.480 go back after that. I felt like I needed Oh, 553 00:27:20.599 --> 00:27:24.079 I saw what I needed to see, and now here 554 00:27:24.119 --> 00:27:27.200 I am. But I also have this one irrational fear, 555 00:27:27.319 --> 00:27:31.160 maybe that some people may experience, but I have this 556 00:27:31.319 --> 00:27:35.000 irrational fear that one day I would just wake up 557 00:27:35.039 --> 00:27:37.160 and I'm in the basement where I first took shrooms. 558 00:27:37.759 --> 00:27:41.119 That freaks me out. Sometimes every time I say it, 559 00:27:41.160 --> 00:27:43.400 I feel like I'm a step closer to actually living. 560 00:27:43.160 --> 00:27:47.720 That bro singer Mod's son is No. 561 00:27:48.359 --> 00:27:51.160 He's an artist. Some people love his music, some people don't. 562 00:27:51.480 --> 00:27:53.880 But he went on a journey. He's like really good 563 00:27:53.880 --> 00:27:56.039 friends with Machine Gun Kelly, the older version, not the 564 00:27:56.039 --> 00:27:58.039 one that Megan Fox got a hold up, but neither 565 00:27:58.039 --> 00:28:01.400 here nor there. Right, he did a ridiculous trip in 566 00:28:01.480 --> 00:28:04.480 the jungle in like twenty twelve, and to this day 567 00:28:04.519 --> 00:28:06.079 he is convinced that he died. 568 00:28:05.880 --> 00:28:09.720 There, like he not his spirit, not his like third eye. No, no, no. 569 00:28:09.920 --> 00:28:12.440 He thinks that he oweded in that jungle, and he 570 00:28:12.519 --> 00:28:14.640 believes that right now he is living a dream. So 571 00:28:14.759 --> 00:28:17.920 because of that, he has thrown all inhibition to the wind, 572 00:28:18.119 --> 00:28:20.240 and he's not just like doing as thou wilt. 573 00:28:20.079 --> 00:28:20.720 So to speak. 574 00:28:21.000 --> 00:28:24.240 But basically he's living like he's gonna the dream is 575 00:28:24.279 --> 00:28:25.839 gonna end any second now. 576 00:28:26.160 --> 00:28:27.359 And that's been his mantra. 577 00:28:27.599 --> 00:28:31.640 Moving forward, and it's actually helped his art exponentially, so 578 00:28:32.200 --> 00:28:35.279 you're not alone in feeling like one day you're gonna 579 00:28:35.279 --> 00:28:36.640 wake up from all of this and it's gonna be 580 00:28:36.640 --> 00:28:39.160 a dream, or one day you're gonna get to the 581 00:28:39.200 --> 00:28:42.000 other side of whatever we would call this experience and 582 00:28:42.039 --> 00:28:44.960 be like, oh shit, that wasn't even real, Like yeah. 583 00:28:45.200 --> 00:28:49.359 Yeah, there's something powerful about going through that death process though, dude, 584 00:28:49.400 --> 00:28:52.319 like it. It really does change your perspective about everything, 585 00:28:52.640 --> 00:28:55.799 you know, like my thing is in I feel the 586 00:28:55.799 --> 00:28:57.720 same way. I can actually relate to you on that. 587 00:28:58.400 --> 00:29:00.480 Whenever I went through my DMT trip, I had to 588 00:29:00.559 --> 00:29:03.480 keep on like telling everybody like is this the real reality? 589 00:29:03.599 --> 00:29:05.880 Like is this real? Because I thought that I was, Dude, 590 00:29:06.000 --> 00:29:08.759 I thought that I was fucking manifesting it like or 591 00:29:08.839 --> 00:29:11.640 creating it. Like it felt like it was like a 592 00:29:12.160 --> 00:29:14.119 I wanted it to be real, but deep down I 593 00:29:14.160 --> 00:29:16.519 knew that this reality wasn't. Kind of shit and it'll 594 00:29:16.519 --> 00:29:19.359 fucking scramble your brain a little bit like that. But ultimately, 595 00:29:19.440 --> 00:29:21.440 you know what's really cool is is that we uh 596 00:29:21.759 --> 00:29:25.480 so we did a show oh the I don't know, 597 00:29:25.559 --> 00:29:28.440 last week or something like that talking about DMTX, and uh, 598 00:29:28.599 --> 00:29:30.160 a lot of the studies that are coming from the 599 00:29:30.240 --> 00:29:33.440 d DMTX, which is basically the uh, it's an intravenous 600 00:29:33.519 --> 00:29:37.839 drip that they give you a DMT for sixty minutes 601 00:29:37.839 --> 00:29:40.920 consecutively because they're trying to quote unquote map the DMT realm. 602 00:29:41.440 --> 00:29:44.119 Yeah yeah, I saw that. Yeah yeah. And what they 603 00:29:44.200 --> 00:29:46.599 found was after like putting you know, scans on the 604 00:29:46.599 --> 00:29:49.839 brain and stuff like that, is that whenever whenever you're like, uh, 605 00:29:49.960 --> 00:29:52.799 you're sober, like like you know, your your conscious mind 606 00:29:52.839 --> 00:29:54.880 and you're just working or you're talking to somebody or whatever, 607 00:29:55.319 --> 00:29:58.160 you're only ten percent of your brain up to ten 608 00:29:58.200 --> 00:30:02.759 percent lights up is fire, right, And whenever you're on DMT, dude, 609 00:30:03.000 --> 00:30:05.920 ninety percent of it is firing. And so they say 610 00:30:05.960 --> 00:30:10.160 that like, essentially, whenever you're on DMT, that's closer to 611 00:30:10.240 --> 00:30:13.240 the real reality than even what we experience on a 612 00:30:13.279 --> 00:30:16.440 daily basis. Now put that in crazy terms, So what 613 00:30:16.480 --> 00:30:19.759 you're seeing in the DMT realm is more real than 614 00:30:19.839 --> 00:30:24.079 this reality essentially, because we're living this illusion. We think 615 00:30:24.119 --> 00:30:25.559 that we got the whole we think that we got 616 00:30:25.559 --> 00:30:27.400 the whole fucking story right here, right, But you're only 617 00:30:27.440 --> 00:30:30.319 seeing ten percent of it. You're only experiencing ten percent 618 00:30:30.319 --> 00:30:32.440 of it. You only have access to ten percent of it. 619 00:30:32.640 --> 00:30:36.559 Whenever you're on DMT, I mean, that's just tripping to 620 00:30:36.599 --> 00:30:39.039 me that that's more real than this. And but that's 621 00:30:39.079 --> 00:30:40.880 the thing is that so many people come back and 622 00:30:40.880 --> 00:30:43.799 they say, my god, that that was way more real 623 00:30:43.880 --> 00:30:46.480 than even this, which sounds kind of crazy. You know, like, 624 00:30:46.640 --> 00:30:48.480 what do you mean more real than this? How is it? 625 00:30:48.519 --> 00:30:50.640 How is it possible that could be something could be 626 00:30:50.720 --> 00:30:52.920 more real than this? You know, because we look at 627 00:30:53.000 --> 00:30:55.880 real as hey, this is physical, you know, like I'm 628 00:30:55.920 --> 00:30:57.759 gonna go eat a sandwich or I'm gonna go take 629 00:30:57.759 --> 00:31:00.200 a nap or you know, whatever you do, Like that's 630 00:31:00.240 --> 00:31:04.079 real reality. But in there, dude, I mean the science 631 00:31:04.119 --> 00:31:07.319 proved it. Right there, fucking ninety percent of your brain 632 00:31:07.440 --> 00:31:09.920 is lighting up, and it's showing you that now you 633 00:31:10.000 --> 00:31:12.559 have more access to whatever the true reality is. And 634 00:31:12.599 --> 00:31:15.119 so that's what I kind of wanted to ask you. So, 635 00:31:15.279 --> 00:31:20.160 whenever you are experiencing things on psychedelic trips, are you 636 00:31:21.119 --> 00:31:26.440 have you gotten to the point of like thinking, because 637 00:31:26.440 --> 00:31:29.079 I know some people will will have a psychedelic trip 638 00:31:29.079 --> 00:31:30.440 and they'll just be like, oh, yeah, that was just 639 00:31:30.519 --> 00:31:33.759 my brain on drugs, you know, like that's just my brain. 640 00:31:33.799 --> 00:31:35.799 That's my silly brain. It's making all this stuff up. 641 00:31:35.799 --> 00:31:38.480 It's like people compared it to like dreaming, right like 642 00:31:38.599 --> 00:31:42.319 and just almost dismiss it as an aspect of this reality, 643 00:31:42.640 --> 00:31:46.039 you know, whereas I'm almost looking at it in an 644 00:31:46.160 --> 00:31:49.519 entirely different way, and I feel like there's something to 645 00:31:49.599 --> 00:31:52.920 really gain from that, you know, and not even just 646 00:31:52.960 --> 00:31:56.839 spiritually or anything else. Like, I feel like there's something 647 00:31:56.920 --> 00:32:01.720 that we need to we need to encor operate the things, 648 00:32:01.799 --> 00:32:05.640 the aspects of that DMT reality or realm into this 649 00:32:05.720 --> 00:32:07.640 reality and not just look at it as if it's 650 00:32:07.960 --> 00:32:10.319 a one off dream kind of thing, you know, Like 651 00:32:10.359 --> 00:32:12.440 have you ever thought about that? Yes? 652 00:32:12.559 --> 00:32:17.000 I have, and I do genuinely believe that that is 653 00:32:17.200 --> 00:32:22.039 definitely real, Okay. But I also think the way it 654 00:32:22.079 --> 00:32:25.200 could be used for at least us in these physical bodies, 655 00:32:25.240 --> 00:32:29.640 because for some reason, like our bodies can only experience 656 00:32:29.720 --> 00:32:31.599 that for a certain amount of time and then you know, 657 00:32:31.680 --> 00:32:35.319 we zoom back because we're tied at least right now 658 00:32:35.359 --> 00:32:37.960 to this three D world. But I think it could 659 00:32:37.960 --> 00:32:41.039 be used as a tool to completely knock you off 660 00:32:41.079 --> 00:32:44.039 the cycle that you're currently in, because every day we 661 00:32:44.079 --> 00:32:44.799 wake up and we. 662 00:32:44.759 --> 00:32:45.559 Do what we gotta do. 663 00:32:45.680 --> 00:32:48.359 Go to work, you go to school, you pay your bills, 664 00:32:48.440 --> 00:32:52.079 and you know the irs comes later. But you know, 665 00:32:52.119 --> 00:32:55.119 when you take that kind of substance, it completely knocks 666 00:32:55.160 --> 00:32:57.400 you off your track and it rewires the way you 667 00:32:57.440 --> 00:33:00.200 think about things, if you know, that's your life kind 668 00:33:00.240 --> 00:33:03.079 of thinking. Other people think it's a fun thing to do, 669 00:33:04.039 --> 00:33:05.799 which is okay to each their own. 670 00:33:06.039 --> 00:33:08.920 It is fun. It is fun. Let's not the gate, right. 671 00:33:08.880 --> 00:33:10.880 Yeah, it is fun. It is fun. I'm not gonna lie. 672 00:33:10.880 --> 00:33:13.519 Well it so it can equally be super terrifying, but 673 00:33:13.559 --> 00:33:14.200 with respect. 674 00:33:15.279 --> 00:33:17.200 But I also think it should. 675 00:33:17.440 --> 00:33:19.440 The way I interpret it is a way to like, 676 00:33:19.759 --> 00:33:22.799 if you're having trouble in certain loops and you don't 677 00:33:22.839 --> 00:33:24.880 understand why you're in certain things and why you keep 678 00:33:24.960 --> 00:33:29.119 repeating the same patterns, that substance can be a physical 679 00:33:29.200 --> 00:33:31.839 like thing to actually knock you off your shit for 680 00:33:31.880 --> 00:33:34.279 like a certain amount of time, and then you can 681 00:33:34.279 --> 00:33:37.079 come back with whatever information that you could bring back, 682 00:33:37.160 --> 00:33:40.559 because you can't bring back everything. So for people who 683 00:33:40.559 --> 00:33:43.599 have trouble, you know, in loops and stuff like that, 684 00:33:43.799 --> 00:33:45.759 right there, actually like you could take it and you're 685 00:33:45.799 --> 00:33:48.440 guaranteed to just get knocked off your shit no matter what. 686 00:33:48.839 --> 00:33:51.759 Versus have some people who try to break the loop 687 00:33:51.759 --> 00:33:54.119 in this world, which they still can, it's a little 688 00:33:54.119 --> 00:33:56.319 more difficult because you're still in the loop, you know 689 00:33:56.359 --> 00:33:58.240 what I mean, you're still in the in the thing. 690 00:33:58.640 --> 00:34:01.039 Versus with that, you're able to look outside the loop 691 00:34:01.160 --> 00:34:03.799 and see what's going on. And that's why you get 692 00:34:03.799 --> 00:34:06.599 that like that discernment or that insight, oh dude. 693 00:34:06.599 --> 00:34:09.199 And a lot of people take a lot of like 694 00:34:09.280 --> 00:34:11.559 a lot of things from that realm, you know, and 695 00:34:11.559 --> 00:34:14.639 they turn it into art or new music or into 696 00:34:14.719 --> 00:34:16.960 something that they can bring into this reality, you know. 697 00:34:18.039 --> 00:34:20.639 And that's that's what I really like about it is 698 00:34:20.679 --> 00:34:22.920 that it's not just your brain. It's almost like, dude, 699 00:34:22.960 --> 00:34:25.320 it just gives you an entirely different perspective. It shakes 700 00:34:25.360 --> 00:34:28.159 you from who you thought you were, and it almost 701 00:34:28.159 --> 00:34:31.320 gives you a perspective of just like a like a 702 00:34:31.440 --> 00:34:34.199 higher self. We'll just say that, like your your your 703 00:34:34.280 --> 00:34:38.159 greatest highest self. Whenever you're absolutely on your game, you 704 00:34:38.159 --> 00:34:40.280 know you're going to work and you're staying on the 705 00:34:40.400 --> 00:34:42.480 on the same page during that flow state, and you 706 00:34:42.519 --> 00:34:45.440 know exactly what you got to do. Like that version 707 00:34:45.480 --> 00:34:49.199 of you is like somehow unlocked and you're able to, 708 00:34:49.559 --> 00:34:52.039 you know, pull something from that. And I think that 709 00:34:52.039 --> 00:34:54.960 that's dude. I love that I've actually implemented a lot, 710 00:34:55.159 --> 00:34:59.840 you know, of those kind of insights into my own reality. 711 00:35:00.920 --> 00:35:03.519 But anyway, you know, I know that your your show 712 00:35:03.599 --> 00:35:06.480 isn't entirely about the psychedelics and stuff like that. It's 713 00:35:06.519 --> 00:35:08.039 just a fun topic to really talk about. 714 00:35:08.119 --> 00:35:10.000 But oh yeah, but it's a big part of who 715 00:35:10.000 --> 00:35:12.320 I am, which is why I actually love talking about 716 00:35:12.360 --> 00:35:13.119 this stuff, you know. 717 00:35:13.360 --> 00:35:15.760 Yeah, I love the way you laid it out like 718 00:35:15.800 --> 00:35:17.480 that too. It's more like if you're trying to get 719 00:35:17.519 --> 00:35:19.760 yourself out of that loop that you found yourself in. 720 00:35:19.800 --> 00:35:24.239 And everybody's got that two different varying degrees, right, I 721 00:35:24.280 --> 00:35:27.199 swear by it personally. I was bad off on liquor 722 00:35:27.239 --> 00:35:30.400 for years and years and years. I microdosed mushrooms for 723 00:35:30.480 --> 00:35:34.559 a few months, and it broke me of that habit. 724 00:35:34.920 --> 00:35:35.320 Right now. 725 00:35:35.320 --> 00:35:37.960 I'm not saying I don't still have a drink on 726 00:35:38.039 --> 00:35:40.960 occasion from time to time, but I no longer come 727 00:35:41.039 --> 00:35:43.239 home and kill half a bottle of liquor, like it's. 728 00:35:43.119 --> 00:35:46.639 A habit, like that's that's horrible, right, And that was it. 729 00:35:46.559 --> 00:35:48.880 It wasn't like I was even going every night tripping balls, 730 00:35:48.920 --> 00:35:52.280 like taking two caps or whatever the case was. I 731 00:35:52.400 --> 00:35:56.039 used that instead of liquor or any alcohol for that matter, 732 00:35:56.119 --> 00:35:59.320 And then I found that alcohol killed the trippy state, 733 00:35:59.599 --> 00:36:03.239 which I would prefer be a little lucid and have, 734 00:36:03.360 --> 00:36:07.400 like the little the brighter colors, a little more lighter 735 00:36:07.480 --> 00:36:08.320 sense of mind. 736 00:36:08.760 --> 00:36:11.280 Not taking myself so seriously, if you're. 737 00:36:11.119 --> 00:36:13.400 Giving me the option of getting fucked up on mushrooms 738 00:36:13.480 --> 00:36:15.320 or getting fucked up on liquor, it's not even a 739 00:36:15.440 --> 00:36:18.000 choice here. Honestly, one of these is going to hurt 740 00:36:18.000 --> 00:36:20.880 me soon. The other one I'm gonna have a great time, 741 00:36:21.079 --> 00:36:21.880 like you know what I mean. 742 00:36:21.920 --> 00:36:23.239 It's very easily. 743 00:36:23.440 --> 00:36:26.639 And that's what's so fascinating about mushrooms in general, not 744 00:36:26.960 --> 00:36:29.119 necessarily about all the other psychedelics, because there's still like 745 00:36:29.159 --> 00:36:31.880 a lot of studies being done on them, But as 746 00:36:31.880 --> 00:36:34.800 far as the psychedelics, it literally does feel like it 747 00:36:34.880 --> 00:36:38.920 kind of helps rewire your brain, which is interesting because 748 00:36:39.000 --> 00:36:41.400 that's what they do underneath the ground, you know, they 749 00:36:41.400 --> 00:36:44.559 have the whole my celial network. It's literally like the 750 00:36:44.639 --> 00:36:47.519 my celial highway that connects all the trees and all 751 00:36:47.519 --> 00:36:49.519 the plants and all the shrubs and all the grass 752 00:36:49.559 --> 00:36:53.719 and literally every fucking root in the ground. That is like, 753 00:36:54.039 --> 00:36:57.920 it's essentially like the Internet of the forest in a 754 00:36:58.000 --> 00:37:00.679 sense if you look at it like that, and literally 755 00:37:00.719 --> 00:37:04.280 like the trees will send information to other trees, like 756 00:37:04.440 --> 00:37:05.800 do you I don't know if you heard this, Yeah, 757 00:37:05.800 --> 00:37:10.079 that's crazy about that. They literally communicate with other trees 758 00:37:10.639 --> 00:37:14.800 through the my celial network, and so that is that's crazy. 759 00:37:14.840 --> 00:37:16.719 And I actually heard a fun thing the other day, 760 00:37:16.800 --> 00:37:19.719 and I think that it's probably true, dude, that if 761 00:37:19.760 --> 00:37:21.880 aliens ever came here and they wanted to talk to 762 00:37:22.360 --> 00:37:24.679 the most intelligent race, they wouldn't talk to humans. They 763 00:37:24.719 --> 00:37:29.320 probably talked to the mushrooms probably. But it's pretty wild, dude, Right, 764 00:37:29.519 --> 00:37:32.519 that's pretty wild. That's pretty cool. Huh. 765 00:37:32.559 --> 00:37:34.559 So you're saying that this is a pretty big portion 766 00:37:34.760 --> 00:37:38.719 of what inspires your show right now. With that being said, 767 00:37:39.159 --> 00:37:43.280 do you every episode talk about psychedelic types of conversations? 768 00:37:43.360 --> 00:37:46.280 Do you bring in people who have had other types 769 00:37:46.320 --> 00:37:49.760 of trippy experiences? What is the basis for especially this 770 00:37:49.840 --> 00:37:50.920 new rebrand of it. 771 00:37:51.280 --> 00:37:54.400 Yeah, so basically right now, it just started, Like I 772 00:37:54.480 --> 00:37:58.840 literally rebranded about like ten to twelve days ago now, 773 00:37:59.440 --> 00:38:02.920 So basically I have a YouTube channel that rebranded, and 774 00:38:03.000 --> 00:38:05.280 I use this little whiteboard I got right over there, 775 00:38:05.599 --> 00:38:08.960 and then I teach these concepts. So basically you can 776 00:38:09.039 --> 00:38:12.320 see it as like the information that I'm giving has 777 00:38:12.440 --> 00:38:16.440 come from my trips. So I'm kind of like a 778 00:38:16.480 --> 00:38:19.679 person that is kind of like that door between I 779 00:38:19.719 --> 00:38:22.079 feel like I'm like that door between the psychedelic world 780 00:38:22.199 --> 00:38:24.639 in this world, except that I'm trying to do it 781 00:38:24.719 --> 00:38:26.559 in a way where people who don't want to take 782 00:38:26.639 --> 00:38:30.000 mushrooms they could still get some type of information. Obviously, 783 00:38:30.079 --> 00:38:32.960 everyone is going to interpret it their own way, but 784 00:38:33.079 --> 00:38:35.679 for people who don't want to take mushrooms but are 785 00:38:35.760 --> 00:38:38.760 still interested in the concepts of rewiring their mind and 786 00:38:38.800 --> 00:38:42.599 things like that, I hope to be that bridge between that. 787 00:38:42.880 --> 00:38:45.800 So as of right now, I do have things lined 788 00:38:45.880 --> 00:38:48.840 up for the summer. I'm having people who I've spoke 789 00:38:48.920 --> 00:38:51.480 to before come on the show, but as a different angle. 790 00:38:52.639 --> 00:38:54.719 So yeah, I'm gonna start having people come on and 791 00:38:54.760 --> 00:38:58.280 talk about those things and their experiences. People who are 792 00:38:58.280 --> 00:39:00.719 doing what I'm doing now at a large scale, so 793 00:39:01.440 --> 00:39:04.280 you know, big things are coming for encourasion, so it's 794 00:39:04.320 --> 00:39:05.599 definitely gonna be interesting. 795 00:39:05.800 --> 00:39:07.480 Hell yeah, dude, I'd love to be a part of that. 796 00:39:07.800 --> 00:39:10.039 Invite me, I will happily come on. Yeah, we can 797 00:39:10.079 --> 00:39:13.000 get fucking weird. I'm all for that. I talk about 798 00:39:13.039 --> 00:39:14.679 all that kind of shit on Meta Mysteries. As a 799 00:39:14.719 --> 00:39:16.840 matter of fact, just last night we got into how 800 00:39:16.920 --> 00:39:20.920 to uh, how to summon aliens, which was a fucking 801 00:39:21.320 --> 00:39:24.920 trip of a show, dude, And then it started going 802 00:39:24.960 --> 00:39:29.599 into uh, like you know the so you've seen like 803 00:39:29.760 --> 00:39:33.320 doctor Stephen Greer with the CE five experiments, uh, where 804 00:39:33.320 --> 00:39:36.119 they're basically it's C five it stands for Close Encounters 805 00:39:36.159 --> 00:39:39.239 of the fifth kind. Yeah yeah, And so he'll go 806 00:39:39.280 --> 00:39:41.280 out in the desert and they'll do like this meditation 807 00:39:41.559 --> 00:39:44.960 or like a guided meditation or something like that, and 808 00:39:45.239 --> 00:39:47.719 they they they have the camera out and they're just 809 00:39:47.800 --> 00:39:51.480 like snapping images all night on these people, and you 810 00:39:51.480 --> 00:39:54.840 can see these fucking entities, bro. Like it's the trippiest thing. 811 00:39:54.880 --> 00:39:58.480 You'll see entities weaving in and out of each person 812 00:39:58.559 --> 00:40:02.559 in the group and sometimes over another person. And then 813 00:40:02.559 --> 00:40:04.480 they'll also see like wild stuff in the sky. So 814 00:40:04.480 --> 00:40:07.039 they'll take like these super high powered like uh green 815 00:40:07.119 --> 00:40:09.440 or red lasers or something like that, and they'll shine 816 00:40:09.480 --> 00:40:12.039 them up in the sky, almost as if it's like 817 00:40:12.079 --> 00:40:15.639 a beacon of light to try and connect to whatever 818 00:40:15.639 --> 00:40:17.239 the fuck is up there. I don't, I don't know. 819 00:40:17.400 --> 00:40:19.880 I don't. I really don't know. Are they spirits? Are 820 00:40:19.880 --> 00:40:22.280 they aliens? You know what I mean? Like, are they 821 00:40:22.760 --> 00:40:28.639 extra dimensional, ultra dimensional? Interdimensional? It's hard to know these things. 822 00:40:28.679 --> 00:40:30.280 And I know that a lot of people have had 823 00:40:30.360 --> 00:40:33.400 a lot of wild experiences, But I mean, is there 824 00:40:33.480 --> 00:40:35.679 one answer, Like, what do you think is going on 825 00:40:35.800 --> 00:40:38.440 with you know, with all the alien kind of stuff? 826 00:40:38.480 --> 00:40:40.119 What do you what do you believe about aliens? 827 00:40:40.119 --> 00:40:40.320 Bro? 828 00:40:40.639 --> 00:40:44.079 Let's just go there. Yeah, I definitely I do believe 829 00:40:44.079 --> 00:40:46.119 that there's other life forms out there. 830 00:40:46.440 --> 00:40:46.760 I do. 831 00:40:47.719 --> 00:40:50.920 You know, ancient cultures have always talked about, you know, 832 00:40:51.239 --> 00:40:54.519 encountering these types of beings and things like that. But 833 00:40:54.599 --> 00:40:59.039 I also, like recently, have been thinking about all of 834 00:40:59.079 --> 00:41:02.119 these things that I've been come to know that you know, 835 00:41:02.440 --> 00:41:06.360 from the Internet, because I've personally never experienced any. 836 00:41:06.199 --> 00:41:09.840 Of this these other entities before. 837 00:41:09.960 --> 00:41:12.079 Not to say they're not real, I think they are 838 00:41:12.159 --> 00:41:14.440 It's just that I feel as though a lot of 839 00:41:15.480 --> 00:41:19.920 my mind has been flooded with noise from online and 840 00:41:20.000 --> 00:41:23.519 I feel as though that whatever information that I'm receiving 841 00:41:23.559 --> 00:41:25.519 from the online world is I feel like it's like 842 00:41:25.559 --> 00:41:28.440 a five percent that's probably really true and the rest 843 00:41:28.519 --> 00:41:32.400 is probably mostly bullshit. So in terms of in terms 844 00:41:32.440 --> 00:41:35.400 of like the what like if aliens are physical or 845 00:41:35.480 --> 00:41:37.840 not and things like that, I think they are, but 846 00:41:37.960 --> 00:41:39.159 I haven't seen anything. 847 00:41:39.360 --> 00:41:42.519 So so now let me ask you to expound upon 848 00:41:42.599 --> 00:41:44.559 this a bit, right, and me and Jonathan we're going 849 00:41:44.599 --> 00:41:47.320 to Prohemian Grove for anybody who like, go out there 850 00:41:47.320 --> 00:41:49.280 and check it out. It's gonna be in Florida. It's 851 00:41:49.320 --> 00:41:51.639 gonna be a blast. Neflin Death Squad is putting it on. 852 00:41:51.960 --> 00:41:54.039 Go to Brogrove dot com to get your tickets now, 853 00:41:54.079 --> 00:41:56.559 either way it goes. Now, we are gonna be on 854 00:41:56.599 --> 00:41:59.800 this panel talking with other content careers about what they 855 00:42:00.079 --> 00:42:02.559 leave as far as aliens, because, like you're saying it, 856 00:42:02.840 --> 00:42:05.639 like the internet's probably giving you maybe five percent truth 857 00:42:05.760 --> 00:42:07.639 in the grand scheme of shit. And Jonathan and I 858 00:42:07.719 --> 00:42:10.800 have very different opinions on aliens. I am somebody who 859 00:42:10.800 --> 00:42:14.119 believes in space and other planets, and that it's possible 860 00:42:14.280 --> 00:42:16.440 that there is life on these other planets that are 861 00:42:16.440 --> 00:42:19.239 making their way to Earth. There are those that believe 862 00:42:19.280 --> 00:42:23.280 that aliens are what we affectionately call aliens, are interdimensional 863 00:42:23.360 --> 00:42:26.000 beings that live on Earth with us, just in another 864 00:42:26.079 --> 00:42:28.760 dimension that we can't see with our human eyes. There 865 00:42:28.760 --> 00:42:31.400 are some that believe that they are angels and demons 866 00:42:31.440 --> 00:42:33.599 presenting themselves in a certain way. And I mean, there's 867 00:42:33.639 --> 00:42:36.079 no right or wrong answers to any of this, because 868 00:42:36.079 --> 00:42:38.840 who's to say one way or another right? So you're 869 00:42:38.840 --> 00:42:41.039 saying that they could be physical, but you're not one 870 00:42:41.079 --> 00:42:43.920 hundred percent sure. But if you really had to say, 871 00:42:44.199 --> 00:42:47.039 gun to your head, whatever the case, what you believe 872 00:42:47.079 --> 00:42:50.360 as far as aliens in and of themselves, where are 873 00:42:50.440 --> 00:42:53.239 you at as of your walk on your journey. 874 00:42:53.360 --> 00:42:57.400 I would say I would say interdimensional. I would say, uh, 875 00:42:57.679 --> 00:43:01.079 it's just like it. You know, from a logical standpoint, 876 00:43:01.159 --> 00:43:03.360 we don't even see most of the light spectrum, so 877 00:43:03.519 --> 00:43:06.760 maybe their skin is reflecting a different frequency that you 878 00:43:06.840 --> 00:43:09.559 just can't see. You know, their ships are probably like that. 879 00:43:09.679 --> 00:43:13.440 You know, who knows. But if that were my answer, 880 00:43:13.480 --> 00:43:15.840 I think it will be interdimensional. I think they are 881 00:43:15.880 --> 00:43:19.360 probably in the room or anywhere at this moment in time. 882 00:43:19.400 --> 00:43:20.719 It's just that we can't perceive it. 883 00:43:21.280 --> 00:43:24.079 Dude, I one hundred percent agree with that, and I 884 00:43:24.159 --> 00:43:25.880 love that you brought up you know, one percent of 885 00:43:25.920 --> 00:43:28.199 the light spectrum. We only use up to ten percent 886 00:43:28.280 --> 00:43:29.840 of our brains. We don't know what the fuck is 887 00:43:29.840 --> 00:43:32.840 going on all around us. I mean literally all of 888 00:43:32.880 --> 00:43:36.000 the ancient scriptures talk about, you know, the veil being 889 00:43:36.079 --> 00:43:38.400 thinner or thicker, and you know what I mean, So 890 00:43:38.440 --> 00:43:42.559 what's the veil? Is the veil just our limited capacity 891 00:43:42.599 --> 00:43:44.320 to be able to use our brain, to be able to. 892 00:43:44.239 --> 00:43:46.559 Sec I think that's what it is the way I 893 00:43:46.639 --> 00:43:49.679 describe it, And this is kind of what I'm teaching now, 894 00:43:49.679 --> 00:43:52.239 And what I do is everyone has these pair of 895 00:43:52.320 --> 00:43:55.480 sunglasses that they put on, right, and those sunglasses are 896 00:43:55.519 --> 00:43:58.599 your beliefs, your loops, and everything that has been going 897 00:43:58.639 --> 00:44:02.679 on with you since your inceptional this planet, and that 898 00:44:02.880 --> 00:44:05.360 right there is only like a tiny bit, a tiny 899 00:44:05.360 --> 00:44:07.760 sliver of reality, and if you were to remove it, 900 00:44:07.800 --> 00:44:10.960 which psychedelics definitely do, then you get to see things 901 00:44:10.960 --> 00:44:14.159 that are beyond your understanding. And that's what I feel 902 00:44:14.159 --> 00:44:16.679 like actually is happening. And you know what's interesting is 903 00:44:16.679 --> 00:44:18.880 that all these things are happening twenty four to seven 904 00:44:18.920 --> 00:44:21.840 around us all the time, and yet we are still 905 00:44:21.840 --> 00:44:25.119 here living a normal quote unquote life. So now it 906 00:44:25.159 --> 00:44:29.800 makes me think when I think about these things, are 907 00:44:29.840 --> 00:44:32.639 we in our own special dimension to be able to 908 00:44:32.760 --> 00:44:35.480 live this life right now? Because what if we were 909 00:44:35.760 --> 00:44:38.000 always aware of these things twenty four to seven? 910 00:44:38.039 --> 00:44:38.679 What could we do? 911 00:44:39.599 --> 00:44:43.400 You know, imagine being aware of everything that you saw 912 00:44:43.519 --> 00:44:45.400 twenty four to seven. Maybe we were at one point, 913 00:44:45.480 --> 00:44:46.880 that's why we decided to come here. 914 00:44:46.920 --> 00:44:50.679 Who knows? Almost makes you wonder what the chemtrails are for? Right? 915 00:44:50.760 --> 00:44:53.920 You know what I mean? Yeah? And I feel like 916 00:44:53.960 --> 00:44:55.760 that same thing too. And I've actually had a lot 917 00:44:55.760 --> 00:44:57.840 of time. I always talk about this, but I've had 918 00:44:57.880 --> 00:45:00.400 a lot of time to really sit with that whole 919 00:45:00.440 --> 00:45:03.639 DMT experience that I had. And one thing that I 920 00:45:03.800 --> 00:45:06.440 recently have been thinking about it is, dude, is that 921 00:45:06.559 --> 00:45:11.639 I I I'm gonna say this without sounding weird or whatever, 922 00:45:11.760 --> 00:45:14.039 or I'm gonna try not to sound tood what I'm 923 00:45:14.039 --> 00:45:17.159 gonna try not to sound too weird. But what I 924 00:45:17.199 --> 00:45:19.679 believe is that I witnessed a place that was not 925 00:45:19.880 --> 00:45:23.320 here even though it was here, you know what I'm saying, Like, 926 00:45:23.440 --> 00:45:28.280 and so I kind of feel like I have a 927 00:45:28.400 --> 00:45:33.559 view of what other dimensions could possibly look like that 928 00:45:33.599 --> 00:45:35.480 are sitting right here in front of our face. So 929 00:45:35.599 --> 00:45:38.400 think about it. Whenever so many people have, you know, 930 00:45:38.480 --> 00:45:43.599 psychedelic experiences and they see aliens or machineos or ancestors 931 00:45:43.719 --> 00:45:45.840 or spirits or anything like that, are they getting in 932 00:45:45.880 --> 00:45:48.159 a fucking spaceship to go there, dude, or is it 933 00:45:48.280 --> 00:45:49.840 right here right now? 934 00:45:50.199 --> 00:45:50.400 You know? 935 00:45:50.440 --> 00:45:52.599 And also think about like this, the people that have 936 00:45:53.760 --> 00:45:57.400 the people that do have like alien experiences, they're usually 937 00:45:57.559 --> 00:46:01.320 in some kind of meditative state, whether whether it's they're 938 00:46:01.360 --> 00:46:03.880 about to fall asleep or they're about to wake up, 939 00:46:04.000 --> 00:46:06.639 or they're in sleep paralysis, or they're in meditation, or 940 00:46:06.639 --> 00:46:10.480 they're under the influence of psychedelics or whatever the case 941 00:46:10.519 --> 00:46:13.000 may be. It's always some kind of light trance the 942 00:46:13.039 --> 00:46:14.800 way that they're able to see it. And if it's 943 00:46:14.880 --> 00:46:17.239 not a light trance, then their kids. And this is 944 00:46:17.280 --> 00:46:20.679 what I tell Jacob is is that I mean that 945 00:46:20.679 --> 00:46:22.400 that demon experience. We're not going to go into it 946 00:46:22.440 --> 00:46:25.239 too much, but the demon experience that you had you 947 00:46:25.320 --> 00:46:28.559 were a little kid, and you were seeing your grandmother, 948 00:46:28.760 --> 00:46:31.960 so you thought which morphed into a demon. Nobody else 949 00:46:32.000 --> 00:46:35.440 saw this r You know, there was something something special 950 00:46:35.480 --> 00:46:38.480 about the child, child like mine up to about seven 951 00:46:38.599 --> 00:46:41.880 some people say nine years old, to where it allows 952 00:46:41.920 --> 00:46:44.639 them to see a little bit deeper. It's almost like, 953 00:46:44.679 --> 00:46:47.519 you know, your cat is just like staring up at 954 00:46:47.559 --> 00:46:49.280 the fucking corner of the ceiling. You're like, what the 955 00:46:49.320 --> 00:46:51.920 fuck are you looking at? You know, maybe they have 956 00:46:52.280 --> 00:46:54.400 something in them that allows them to see a little bit, 957 00:46:54.559 --> 00:46:56.639 a little bit more than we're able to see. I 958 00:46:56.639 --> 00:46:58.679 don't know, but I think that whatever is going on, 959 00:46:58.679 --> 00:47:01.920 and that's why I say that the aliens are probably 960 00:47:01.960 --> 00:47:06.480 interdimensional as well, or ultra terrestrial or whatever they call them. 961 00:47:06.519 --> 00:47:08.679 But I don't think they're from out there, Like I 962 00:47:08.719 --> 00:47:11.519 think it's a here thing. And I'm not saying that 963 00:47:11.559 --> 00:47:13.840 they're absolutely not from out there. I don't know what's 964 00:47:13.840 --> 00:47:16.000 what space is. I'm just gonna be totally real with you, 965 00:47:16.079 --> 00:47:19.960 like I have such a healthy distrust with everything Space 966 00:47:20.000 --> 00:47:23.000 agency in general, not even just NASA, all of them. Well, 967 00:47:23.000 --> 00:47:25.119 how many how many like videos do we got to 968 00:47:25.159 --> 00:47:28.119 see of people on the ISS and they're pulling down 969 00:47:28.159 --> 00:47:30.599 their fucking cords that they're hanging on. They're trying to 970 00:47:30.599 --> 00:47:34.079 simulate that they're that they're floating in gravity or or 971 00:47:34.400 --> 00:47:37.239 anti gravity. Essentially, it's like, why do you got to 972 00:47:37.280 --> 00:47:40.079 fake that? Like all the moon landing footage fake, like 973 00:47:40.440 --> 00:47:42.159 confirm fake. And I know what people will say, and 974 00:47:42.159 --> 00:47:45.480 I've actually said this before too. You know, does that 975 00:47:45.519 --> 00:47:46.880 mean that they didn't go to the moon, Well, of 976 00:47:46.880 --> 00:47:49.320 course not. But the footage is absolutely fake, you know. 977 00:47:49.559 --> 00:47:51.559 And some people say, well, that's just because they had 978 00:47:51.559 --> 00:47:53.440 to go through the van Allen radiation belt and maybe 979 00:47:53.480 --> 00:47:56.880 the footage didn't make it. You know, I don't know 980 00:47:56.920 --> 00:47:59.519 what to think about that, But I don't know about space, 981 00:47:59.559 --> 00:48:01.679 and I probably we never will know about space. You 982 00:48:01.760 --> 00:48:06.119 have to take it on faith from these I mean 983 00:48:06.320 --> 00:48:12.239 seemingly higher governmental divisions that have decepted us literally all 984 00:48:12.320 --> 00:48:16.480 the time on every single aspect, and for some reason, 985 00:48:16.519 --> 00:48:18.920 we're just supposed to believe them now. And so you know, 986 00:48:18.960 --> 00:48:21.199 whenever people put out a telescope, and I talk about this, 987 00:48:21.280 --> 00:48:24.360 Jacob disagrees with it, but just to say you, people 988 00:48:24.400 --> 00:48:27.599 will get out like super high powered telescopes and they'll 989 00:48:27.679 --> 00:48:30.280 zoom in on a star and it looks like a 990 00:48:30.320 --> 00:48:33.519 fucking wave, dude. It doesn't look like a real physical thing. 991 00:48:34.039 --> 00:48:35.920 And so I actually kind of believe that they might 992 00:48:35.960 --> 00:48:38.119 be just fucking portals, bro Like when we're looking up 993 00:48:38.119 --> 00:48:40.280 at the stars. I think they're more so portals than 994 00:48:40.880 --> 00:48:44.239 places or things. You know, Like that sounds kind of crazy, 995 00:48:44.320 --> 00:48:46.559 but I don't know. I mean same thing. I feel 996 00:48:46.599 --> 00:48:48.639 the same thing whenever i'm sunngazing. You ever you ever 997 00:48:48.679 --> 00:48:51.639 sung gazed before? Yeah, I've done that before. You It 998 00:48:51.679 --> 00:48:53.760 feels like fucking doctor Stranger is sitting there, open up 999 00:48:53.760 --> 00:48:56.360 a portal. That's what it looks like on some real shit. 1000 00:48:56.760 --> 00:48:59.320 So I don't know, I question all of reality and 1001 00:48:59.400 --> 00:49:00.840 that's that's where I come to. 1002 00:49:01.639 --> 00:49:05.840 You know, So on your psychedelic journey and as you're 1003 00:49:05.840 --> 00:49:09.840 making content surrounding it like you are, right, are you 1004 00:49:10.320 --> 00:49:13.599 also trying to delve into other types of psychedelics? Are 1005 00:49:13.599 --> 00:49:15.119 you trying to make a like a once a month 1006 00:49:15.199 --> 00:49:17.559 trip that you kind of report back to your people on, 1007 00:49:17.920 --> 00:49:20.079 Like how are you doing this moving forward? 1008 00:49:20.559 --> 00:49:24.639 Well, I haven't went back since that chocolate thing, and 1009 00:49:24.719 --> 00:49:27.079 I think I'll stay like that for a while. I 1010 00:49:27.119 --> 00:49:30.440 think I've gathered the information that I needed to and 1011 00:49:32.199 --> 00:49:34.679 I don't feel a calling to go back. I don't 1012 00:49:34.679 --> 00:49:36.599 feel like it will do me any justice to go 1013 00:49:36.679 --> 00:49:40.519 back at this moment. But yeah, I'm just teaching the 1014 00:49:40.559 --> 00:49:43.960 people what I've learned, not only from there, but in 1015 00:49:43.960 --> 00:49:46.199 this physical world as well, and I'm just writing it 1016 00:49:46.199 --> 00:49:48.679 in a format that is easy for people to understand. 1017 00:49:48.719 --> 00:49:50.360 That's why I got this whiteboard over there. 1018 00:49:50.960 --> 00:49:54.039 So yeah, so now I'm just teaching people like things 1019 00:49:54.079 --> 00:49:56.800 that they could actually practically do in this life because 1020 00:49:56.800 --> 00:49:59.639 there's all this noise in this world. There's so much 1021 00:49:59.639 --> 00:50:02.199 shit going on. I've completely tuned out of the news. 1022 00:50:02.599 --> 00:50:04.719 I don't know what's going on. And maybe that's a 1023 00:50:04.760 --> 00:50:06.880 bad thing, but I don't think so, because at the 1024 00:50:06.920 --> 00:50:10.119 same moment, Yeah, you know, every single time I had 1025 00:50:10.119 --> 00:50:12.239 my phone on, I was just freaked out. And now 1026 00:50:12.239 --> 00:50:14.159 that my phone is off, I feel better than ever. 1027 00:50:14.679 --> 00:50:16.519 Bro, I'm with you one hundred percent as far as 1028 00:50:16.599 --> 00:50:20.599 like detaching from the news. Right, So, I go on 1029 00:50:20.639 --> 00:50:24.039 a silent retreat once a year, Right, I literally don't 1030 00:50:24.079 --> 00:50:28.000 speak for three and a half days, and I gain 1031 00:50:28.239 --> 00:50:32.880 so much from that. It's literally a meditative retreat. And dude, 1032 00:50:33.000 --> 00:50:36.000 complete silence. Your phone is off, there's no radio, there's 1033 00:50:36.039 --> 00:50:39.480 no TV. It is nearly you and yourself. And yes, 1034 00:50:39.519 --> 00:50:42.039 it's a Christian thing. It's supposed to be a retreat 1035 00:50:42.039 --> 00:50:44.320 where you and God work on your relationship with each other. 1036 00:50:44.360 --> 00:50:45.000 Neither here nor there. 1037 00:50:45.039 --> 00:50:51.119 Though, unplugging for three days, truly unplugging, you don't understand 1038 00:50:51.159 --> 00:50:54.559 how loud the world really is until you get back 1039 00:50:54.559 --> 00:50:57.159 in your car to come home afterwards and the radio 1040 00:50:57.320 --> 00:50:58.800 is on. You left it on when you got there. 1041 00:50:58.880 --> 00:51:02.599 You forgot all about it. It's loud, dude, The engine 1042 00:51:02.760 --> 00:51:07.800 is loud. You get home and everybody's in, and you're 1043 00:51:07.800 --> 00:51:10.119 so used to that, you're so accustomed to it because 1044 00:51:10.159 --> 00:51:12.000 that's your day to day life. And it's not people fighting. 1045 00:51:12.000 --> 00:51:14.920 It's kids running around screaming. It's the TV on in 1046 00:51:14.960 --> 00:51:17.320 the background over here. It's the dog bark and it's whatever. 1047 00:51:17.360 --> 00:51:20.360 It's all these things that we just have become accustomed to, 1048 00:51:20.480 --> 00:51:23.400 which is very normal. But when you truly remove yourself 1049 00:51:23.440 --> 00:51:26.199 from that and unplugged, you realize. 1050 00:51:25.760 --> 00:51:31.199 Dude, the outside noise just it's all it is. It's static. 1051 00:51:31.599 --> 00:51:35.199 It's white noise that is constantly keeping certain portions of 1052 00:51:35.239 --> 00:51:38.960 your brain firing off to be distracted from what's important. 1053 00:51:39.000 --> 00:51:40.039 I'm with you one hundred percent. 1054 00:51:40.639 --> 00:51:41.000 Yeah, I was. 1055 00:51:41.039 --> 00:51:43.599 Actually, you know, I was teaching people about that in 1056 00:51:43.679 --> 00:51:46.719 one of my episodes. I call it the Unshakable Awareness. 1057 00:51:46.960 --> 00:51:49.599 So and basically, well, what you did was a little 1058 00:51:49.639 --> 00:51:51.519 more like you know, out there, which I would love 1059 00:51:51.519 --> 00:51:53.719 to do one day. But I was just teaching people 1060 00:51:53.760 --> 00:51:56.719 that even just an hour of silence is enough to be, 1061 00:51:57.119 --> 00:52:00.599 you know, to tap into yourself and in that because 1062 00:52:00.599 --> 00:52:03.039 this world we live in is so like fast paced, 1063 00:52:03.079 --> 00:52:06.159 you know, hustle culture, TikTok two seconds, boom boom everything 1064 00:52:06.559 --> 00:52:09.280 that you don't people genuinely think they don't have time 1065 00:52:09.320 --> 00:52:10.400 to sit down for an hour. 1066 00:52:10.679 --> 00:52:13.360 Oh dude, you give you anxiety for the three day 1067 00:52:13.360 --> 00:52:17.639 retreat the first entire day I'm there, I'm almost got 1068 00:52:17.639 --> 00:52:20.079 this feeling of anxiety the whole time, like I'm supposed 1069 00:52:20.079 --> 00:52:21.960 to be somewhere, I'm supposed to be doing something. Because 1070 00:52:21.960 --> 00:52:25.440 that's the average everyday go go go mentality. It takes 1071 00:52:25.480 --> 00:52:28.079 a solid twenty four hours of shutting the fuck up 1072 00:52:28.199 --> 00:52:32.440 and breathing for you to realize, no, no, this is correct, 1073 00:52:32.920 --> 00:52:36.119 this is natural. Take a minute, everything is fine. Just 1074 00:52:36.599 --> 00:52:39.800 be here and be in the moment. Dude, I'm with you. 1075 00:52:40.320 --> 00:52:45.079 An hour a day critical, fucking critical, But I feel 1076 00:52:45.119 --> 00:52:47.039 like a lot of people can't even section off ten 1077 00:52:47.119 --> 00:52:49.679 minutes a day to just sit there and silently meditate 1078 00:52:50.039 --> 00:52:52.239 an hour. I mean, I agree with you, but God 1079 00:52:52.320 --> 00:52:55.320 that some people would feel like the entire time they 1080 00:52:55.400 --> 00:52:58.159 be thinking about what they're gonna do after this hour. Yeah, 1081 00:52:58.320 --> 00:53:01.639 and taking the second and being present in that within 1082 00:53:01.719 --> 00:53:03.360 themselves for an hour, dude. 1083 00:53:03.480 --> 00:53:05.679 Yeah, it takes it. It takes a lot of practice. Yeah, 1084 00:53:05.760 --> 00:53:07.320 it does. Yeah, you kind of got to get out 1085 00:53:07.360 --> 00:53:09.800 of your own way. But that's something that we put 1086 00:53:09.840 --> 00:53:13.360 into practice. On Meta Mysteries is med We meditate every episode. 1087 00:53:13.400 --> 00:53:16.159 At the end of every episode, we will well, we'll 1088 00:53:16.199 --> 00:53:18.480 do a tarot reading and then we'll like meditate on 1089 00:53:18.519 --> 00:53:20.400 it a little bit. We'll meditate on the topics of 1090 00:53:20.440 --> 00:53:23.480 whatever we talked about, and then we'll listen to four 1091 00:53:23.519 --> 00:53:26.039 hundred and thirty two herds or maybe it's a guided meditation, 1092 00:53:26.239 --> 00:53:29.559 or maybe it's the Gateway tapes or something wild like that, right, 1093 00:53:30.599 --> 00:53:32.679 or the binual beats and shit like that, like the 1094 00:53:32.719 --> 00:53:37.159 fucking elevator waves. Dude, you ever listen to those those? Actually, no, dude, 1095 00:53:37.159 --> 00:53:41.039 that'll send you that'll fucking send you and with the quickness. 1096 00:53:41.880 --> 00:53:45.400 But yeah, it's like because each each different frequency will 1097 00:53:45.400 --> 00:53:47.519 have an effect a different effect on your brain. And 1098 00:53:47.559 --> 00:53:49.840 that's why they say, like the the bineual beats are 1099 00:53:49.960 --> 00:53:53.480 like some of the most powerful ones because it's why 1100 00:53:53.639 --> 00:53:57.239 why they're so powerful, along with Robert Monroe's from the 1101 00:53:57.320 --> 00:54:01.480 Monroe Institute Gateway Tapes tapes, is because most people whenever 1102 00:54:01.480 --> 00:54:04.360 they meditate, they're trying to get rid of that logical, 1103 00:54:04.480 --> 00:54:08.480 analytical left brain of their of their head right and 1104 00:54:08.639 --> 00:54:10.719 get out of your own way. Stop thinking about what 1105 00:54:10.760 --> 00:54:12.559 you're getting ready to do. Stop thinking about oh I 1106 00:54:12.599 --> 00:54:15.159 gotta fold close, or I gotta go drive here, or 1107 00:54:15.320 --> 00:54:17.480 I gotta do tax like get out of there. You're 1108 00:54:17.480 --> 00:54:19.639 trying to mainly just stay in the right side of 1109 00:54:19.639 --> 00:54:24.280 the brain and that's where, you know, that's where everything 1110 00:54:24.599 --> 00:54:27.000 good that you need to get to is really at 1111 00:54:27.039 --> 00:54:29.519 you know. And so but what's awesome about the bineural 1112 00:54:29.519 --> 00:54:32.800 beats and the Gateway tapes is that they literally instead 1113 00:54:32.840 --> 00:54:35.599 of just putting you to the right brain, it helps 1114 00:54:35.639 --> 00:54:40.400 to like intertwine your logical and your imaginative brain. So 1115 00:54:40.519 --> 00:54:44.199 instead of just sectoring off, it's teaching you to help 1116 00:54:44.440 --> 00:54:48.320 like work them together, because in a regular life you 1117 00:54:48.440 --> 00:54:50.559 are thinking that way. You're working that way. You have 1118 00:54:50.599 --> 00:54:52.920 your right brain and your left brain. You imagine all 1119 00:54:53.000 --> 00:54:56.119 day long, you think thoughts all day long, right and so, 1120 00:54:56.559 --> 00:54:59.000 and then you analyze everything all day long. So your 1121 00:54:59.039 --> 00:55:01.159 right brain your left brain and are constantly working together, 1122 00:55:01.239 --> 00:55:04.400 and those things, those two things that I just mentioned 1123 00:55:04.719 --> 00:55:07.440 almost help you become a little bit more aware and 1124 00:55:07.480 --> 00:55:09.880 a little bit more conscious that you do have these 1125 00:55:09.920 --> 00:55:12.440 two different facets of your brain that if used and 1126 00:55:12.559 --> 00:55:17.079 fused together, Dude, it's like fucking divine alchemy at that point, 1127 00:55:17.159 --> 00:55:19.320 Like it's if you can really get a hold of it, 1128 00:55:19.400 --> 00:55:22.559 and so, dude, it's it's crazy too, especially after like 1129 00:55:22.559 --> 00:55:24.519 the Gateway tape. Dude, you listen to those and they're 1130 00:55:24.599 --> 00:55:26.679 kind of long, they're like twenty five thirty minutes, some 1131 00:55:26.760 --> 00:55:29.119 like eighty five minutes something like that. But if you 1132 00:55:29.199 --> 00:55:31.159 listen to them, dude, you literally feel like your shit 1133 00:55:31.199 --> 00:55:34.880 has been rewired, Like it is next level wild, especially 1134 00:55:34.880 --> 00:55:37.000 if you if you're sitting there and you're really trying 1135 00:55:37.039 --> 00:55:38.840 to take it serious, you're really trying to get into 1136 00:55:38.880 --> 00:55:42.480 that meditative mind and you you know, do the old 1137 00:55:42.519 --> 00:55:45.599 adage of take no thought, like, don't even have a thought, 1138 00:55:46.000 --> 00:55:48.840 just like imagine you're you're this. I always like to 1139 00:55:48.920 --> 00:55:51.960 use this example, but imagine like you're you're an old 1140 00:55:52.000 --> 00:55:53.880 man on a porch, right and you're just sipping some 1141 00:55:53.920 --> 00:55:56.440 fucking lemonade or some iced tea or whatever, and you're 1142 00:55:56.480 --> 00:55:58.679 watching all the cars go by, and each one of 1143 00:55:58.679 --> 00:56:01.280 those cars they stand for each one of the thoughts 1144 00:56:01.280 --> 00:56:04.360 that come into your mind. And those thoughts you can 1145 00:56:04.440 --> 00:56:06.760 watch them go down the road, or you can stare 1146 00:56:06.800 --> 00:56:08.679 at them, and they'll stay right there. They'll stay at 1147 00:56:08.679 --> 00:56:10.480 like a stop sign or a red light or whatever, 1148 00:56:10.519 --> 00:56:12.719 as long as you need them to. But the goal 1149 00:56:12.800 --> 00:56:16.400 of the meditation is to let all of them go 1150 00:56:16.719 --> 00:56:19.039 like and and don't feed them any kind of emotion, 1151 00:56:19.239 --> 00:56:21.559 don't give them any kind of thought or anything, and 1152 00:56:21.599 --> 00:56:23.199 just be like, oh that was interesting, and let it 1153 00:56:23.239 --> 00:56:25.599 go and wait till the next one comes in. And 1154 00:56:25.639 --> 00:56:28.440 like the the the gurus and the masters are the 1155 00:56:28.480 --> 00:56:31.400 ones that they have no thoughts. They go to the 1156 00:56:31.440 --> 00:56:35.679 nothing place. And and that's harder than it seems, you know, 1157 00:56:35.840 --> 00:56:38.800 like that's that's a difficult place to to get to 1158 00:56:38.800 --> 00:56:42.880 to literally like literally literally have no thought. At all. 1159 00:56:43.079 --> 00:56:46.039 That's that's where the magic happens, right there. Dude. Yeah, 1160 00:56:46.079 --> 00:56:46.920 that's interesting. You know. 1161 00:56:47.159 --> 00:56:49.440 You know they spend their lives dedicated to right to 1162 00:56:49.880 --> 00:56:52.760 doing that, so yeah, that's definitely not no easy task. 1163 00:56:53.199 --> 00:56:56.039 But you know what's interesting is, uh, when I first 1164 00:56:56.039 --> 00:56:58.760 had my first whoa, my first, because I do think 1165 00:56:58.760 --> 00:57:01.039 you have multiple, But I feel as though when I 1166 00:57:01.079 --> 00:57:04.360 had my first spiritual awakening in my life was in 1167 00:57:04.440 --> 00:57:09.159 twenty twenty during COVID, my friend something Ata came over 1168 00:57:09.199 --> 00:57:11.559 and we found out something the Pope was wearing, and 1169 00:57:11.599 --> 00:57:14.559 it just like opened my mind to all of these things, 1170 00:57:14.960 --> 00:57:18.599 and I felt like a thumb was being pressed into 1171 00:57:18.639 --> 00:57:22.280 the middle of my forehead right here. And I describe 1172 00:57:22.320 --> 00:57:23.719 that feeling to other people, and I don't know if 1173 00:57:23.719 --> 00:57:26.920 anyone feels that, but every single time that I do 1174 00:57:27.039 --> 00:57:29.880 sit in silence, I do feel that feeling, and even 1175 00:57:30.000 --> 00:57:32.079 out of silence, because I can bring For some reason, 1176 00:57:32.119 --> 00:57:35.000 I'm able to bring that silence even though I'm here 1177 00:57:35.079 --> 00:57:35.920 right now with me. 1178 00:57:36.079 --> 00:57:38.000 If that makes any sense at all, I don't know 1179 00:57:38.039 --> 00:57:38.599 if it does. 1180 00:57:38.679 --> 00:57:42.679 But when I'm in conversations of this frequency, I would 1181 00:57:42.760 --> 00:57:45.159 say I do feel like a like a like a 1182 00:57:45.239 --> 00:57:47.719 finger just like pressed into my forehead. And I don't 1183 00:57:47.760 --> 00:57:50.519 even know if that means like my third eyes activated 1184 00:57:50.599 --> 00:57:51.519 or something, but I. 1185 00:57:51.440 --> 00:57:52.840 Was gonna say, would you just feel like it's a 1186 00:57:52.880 --> 00:57:56.360 positive feeling or like something's poking you like out of 1187 00:57:56.360 --> 00:57:58.360 like a jutting you in the forehead kind of thing. 1188 00:57:58.440 --> 00:57:59.320 What do you mean by that? 1189 00:57:59.480 --> 00:58:01.800 Well, it is a positive thing. 1190 00:58:01.840 --> 00:58:04.320 It feels like my like my awareness has been like 1191 00:58:04.480 --> 00:58:05.719 heightened at the moment. 1192 00:58:05.840 --> 00:58:06.639 That's what it feels like. 1193 00:58:06.679 --> 00:58:08.880 It feels like I'm just here fully, like the only 1194 00:58:08.920 --> 00:58:11.719 thing that matters is just me in this conversation, whatever 1195 00:58:11.760 --> 00:58:13.800 else is going on around. I'll get to that when 1196 00:58:13.800 --> 00:58:16.000 I get to it. So that's kind of what it 1197 00:58:16.000 --> 00:58:18.440 feels like. And it's you know, usually I feel it 1198 00:58:18.440 --> 00:58:21.000 most strongly when I do sit for an hour and 1199 00:58:21.079 --> 00:58:24.199 just chill and don't I don't even close my eyes. 1200 00:58:24.239 --> 00:58:28.360 I leave my eyes open. I just sit there like that. Yeah, dude, 1201 00:58:28.480 --> 00:58:32.519 So it's it's a method of anyone can do. Oh yeah, dude, it's. 1202 00:58:32.400 --> 00:58:33.079 So cool too. 1203 00:58:33.239 --> 00:58:33.519 Dude. 1204 00:58:33.519 --> 00:58:36.920 Have you fucking been seeing like all of the telekinetic 1205 00:58:37.000 --> 00:58:40.639 stuff that people are posting nowadays, Like basically, yes, I've 1206 00:58:40.679 --> 00:58:43.639 seen it. I've actually heard one guy like this super 1207 00:58:43.719 --> 00:58:47.599 Saiyan type shit, just moving it with the force, you know, Like, 1208 00:58:47.679 --> 00:58:50.280 what do you think about that? Oh man? 1209 00:58:50.400 --> 00:58:53.119 To be honest, I've been seeing it so much on 1210 00:58:53.199 --> 00:58:55.679 my for you page. When I do decide to go 1211 00:58:55.719 --> 00:59:02.280 on social media, I don't know. I mean, I think that, uh, 1212 00:59:02.519 --> 00:59:05.639 it's definitely possible. I think that the human mind in 1213 00:59:05.679 --> 00:59:07.800 the world that we live is a lot more whimsical 1214 00:59:07.840 --> 00:59:12.719 than we think. But at the same token, I had 1215 00:59:12.719 --> 00:59:15.960 to pause myself for a moment because I do find 1216 00:59:15.960 --> 00:59:18.679 that interesting. But also I thought, like, what, you know, 1217 00:59:18.960 --> 00:59:20.760 if I were to dive into this, like what does 1218 00:59:20.800 --> 00:59:23.199 it do for me? You know what I mean? And 1219 00:59:23.239 --> 00:59:26.159 I might sound very selfish or whatever, but I don't know. 1220 00:59:26.199 --> 00:59:28.880 I feel like I've entered a stage in my journey 1221 00:59:29.440 --> 00:59:33.599 where all the outside noise, I feel like there's distractions 1222 00:59:33.639 --> 00:59:37.239 for me, you know, and unless my job aligns with 1223 00:59:37.440 --> 00:59:41.119 continuingly to talk about those things, and you know, I 1224 00:59:41.199 --> 00:59:43.159 don't think it serves a purpose for me at the 1225 00:59:43.239 --> 00:59:46.039 moment in time. But it is very interesting and I've 1226 00:59:46.079 --> 00:59:47.960 been seeing a lot of people doing it. There's this 1227 00:59:48.119 --> 00:59:50.119 one guy I actually hit up to get on the 1228 00:59:50.119 --> 00:59:54.440 show with me. He hasn't responded, but but yes, that's 1229 00:59:54.719 --> 00:59:56.320 my stance on it, to be honest. 1230 00:59:56.559 --> 01:00:02.119 Is it send poke or sena k black dude maybe, yeah, yeah, 1231 01:00:02.159 --> 01:00:07.000 some black dude. Yeah, that dude him everywhere. It's OK, dude, 1232 01:00:07.079 --> 01:00:08.519 let me, I'm gonna pull it. 1233 01:00:09.519 --> 01:00:11.199 I'm gonna pull it up, spelled the way I think 1234 01:00:11.239 --> 01:00:13.599 it's spelled. And this is a reference to HINTI porn. 1235 01:00:13.760 --> 01:00:17.320 Yes, I don't know. It is sin pie K sin 1236 01:00:17.559 --> 01:00:18.119 pie K. 1237 01:00:18.360 --> 01:00:18.840 Yeah. 1238 01:00:18.920 --> 01:00:22.760 Yeah, Okay, so he's into the whole that whole jam, 1239 01:00:22.800 --> 01:00:26.719 which okay, of course it's ah the tropes right themselves. 1240 01:00:27.000 --> 01:00:30.199 Now yeah, okay, all right, check this out, dude. It's 1241 01:00:30.199 --> 01:00:39.719 fucking insane. So it's just the he's like passing out. 1242 01:00:39.760 --> 01:00:41.880 This is whenever he was younger, whenever he first started it, 1243 01:00:42.519 --> 01:00:46.039 and it's basically trying to harness the energy within your 1244 01:00:46.079 --> 01:00:52.159 hands almost like like Rayki and you're moving it literally 1245 01:00:52.199 --> 01:00:57.320 all of this ship like fucking Matilda. Dude, Like, yeah, 1246 01:00:57.639 --> 01:01:00.239 just watch dude, the the the look at that is 1247 01:01:00.239 --> 01:01:01.559 that is that movie magic or what? 1248 01:01:02.840 --> 01:01:04.519 You don't want me to answer this. I'm just enjoying 1249 01:01:04.519 --> 01:01:04.920 the video. 1250 01:01:06.800 --> 01:01:11.880 You don't buy this, dude, I mean, there's no cut 1251 01:01:11.920 --> 01:01:12.800 in the video. 1252 01:01:12.599 --> 01:01:18.440 Though it's not about a cut in the video. I mean, 1253 01:01:18.719 --> 01:01:21.360 he's got that Naruto hand gesture. What's he doing well? 1254 01:01:21.400 --> 01:01:24.280 And this is this is what people you know, It's 1255 01:01:24.320 --> 01:01:28.320 like it has to deal with like your chakras. And 1256 01:01:29.039 --> 01:01:31.280 I don't know, like if you ever seen iron fist. 1257 01:01:31.840 --> 01:01:34.760 You ever seen iron fist, Josh, Yeah, I've seen iron fists. Yeah, 1258 01:01:34.760 --> 01:01:36.920 it's a lot like that. Dude, I like all of that. 1259 01:01:37.880 --> 01:01:39.800 It's not kung fu, but something like that. 1260 01:01:40.199 --> 01:01:43.559 It's your chi. Yeah, you're chi right right, and this 1261 01:01:43.639 --> 01:01:44.320 is the yep. 1262 01:01:45.440 --> 01:01:47.960 I don't know, dude, Like, dude, I want this to 1263 01:01:48.000 --> 01:01:49.760 be real, and I hope that it is. 1264 01:01:50.119 --> 01:01:51.559 It's really cool if it's real. 1265 01:01:51.639 --> 01:01:55.159 I just you know, it's like that one video of 1266 01:01:55.199 --> 01:01:58.360 that that woman that believed her she was so strong 1267 01:01:58.360 --> 01:02:00.880 that nothing could hit her, and she like spent like 1268 01:02:01.000 --> 01:02:04.400 thirty minutes like making her force field, and like she 1269 01:02:04.599 --> 01:02:06.800 believed it. I don't think this was a grifter and 1270 01:02:06.880 --> 01:02:09.920 her followers that were like donating their energy to her 1271 01:02:09.960 --> 01:02:10.519 and the whole night. 1272 01:02:10.599 --> 01:02:12.079 I believe that they believed it. 1273 01:02:13.159 --> 01:02:15.119 And what the guy ran into her just. 1274 01:02:15.000 --> 01:02:18.599 Fucking later out and it's like, well, you know, I 1275 01:02:18.639 --> 01:02:21.079 mean that's also like if you were to pan out 1276 01:02:21.079 --> 01:02:24.039 from that, I'm curious that there's somebody right off camera 1277 01:02:24.079 --> 01:02:26.079 going like at the right moment. 1278 01:02:26.119 --> 01:02:28.199 I don't know that to be a fact. I just. 1279 01:02:29.679 --> 01:02:32.320 You know what it is for me, and the way 1280 01:02:32.360 --> 01:02:36.519 I look at situations like these is, you know, for 1281 01:02:36.639 --> 01:02:39.000 all we know, this shit is probably real, you know 1282 01:02:39.000 --> 01:02:41.519 what I mean, this guy's probably doing this, who knows. 1283 01:02:41.599 --> 01:02:45.280 I think he has the same token. I'm also thinking about, 1284 01:02:45.400 --> 01:02:49.079 like damn, like if I spend so much time wondering 1285 01:02:49.119 --> 01:02:51.320 if this is real, like am I gonna get caught 1286 01:02:51.400 --> 01:02:54.079 up in another like rabbit hole? Like there's so many 1287 01:02:54.199 --> 01:02:58.079 rabbit holes on social media, Like it's it's ridiculous. Like 1288 01:02:58.280 --> 01:03:01.199 every day I find about it comes up on my feed, 1289 01:03:01.280 --> 01:03:03.840 like new things that I've never heard about that apparently 1290 01:03:03.880 --> 01:03:05.440 it's been around and people have been talking about it 1291 01:03:05.480 --> 01:03:07.920 for twenty years. It's kind of like, I don't know 1292 01:03:08.000 --> 01:03:10.320 what purpose does this serve? You know what I mean? 1293 01:03:10.440 --> 01:03:13.440 Well, I think that it's all about like, uh, you know, 1294 01:03:13.559 --> 01:03:15.519 and this is what like the Buddhists and the Hindus 1295 01:03:15.559 --> 01:03:19.000 talk about with you know, uh, like oh my god. 1296 01:03:19.519 --> 01:03:23.000 Your chakras, dickhead, I wouldn't be that big of a 1297 01:03:23.039 --> 01:03:24.920 dick to this guy, but continue, I'm sorry. 1298 01:03:24.960 --> 01:03:26.880 No, it's just, you know, I think that there is 1299 01:03:26.920 --> 01:03:29.920 something to do with chibro. I really do. I think that, 1300 01:03:30.039 --> 01:03:33.280 you know, that's our human energy or whatever you want 1301 01:03:33.280 --> 01:03:35.000 to call it. And the people have been talking about 1302 01:03:35.000 --> 01:03:36.840 your chakras for the longest time. That's actually what this 1303 01:03:36.880 --> 01:03:40.320 guy talks about. He says that basically, you gotta work 1304 01:03:40.400 --> 01:03:43.760 with your your chakras and almost like charge them up. 1305 01:03:44.039 --> 01:03:46.559 And he started out small, like at first, it's just 1306 01:03:46.639 --> 01:03:50.960 like one empty plastic bottle and maybe it'll slightly move 1307 01:03:51.079 --> 01:03:52.559 or something like that. But I think that if you 1308 01:03:52.639 --> 01:03:55.440 work with it every day like this and you're really 1309 01:03:55.519 --> 01:03:59.239 trying to attune yourself. And and this is we actually 1310 01:03:59.280 --> 01:04:01.400 watched a video and I know, Jacob, you don't believe 1311 01:04:01.400 --> 01:04:03.840 this stuff, but uh, there was like this uh, this 1312 01:04:03.920 --> 01:04:06.320 fucking I don't know what he was, a kung fu 1313 01:04:06.400 --> 01:04:10.320 guy or guru or something like that, whereas basically like 1314 01:04:10.360 --> 01:04:12.559 these people that harnessed their cheese so much that he 1315 01:04:12.639 --> 01:04:15.559 had this ball, like rolled up a paper ball in 1316 01:04:15.599 --> 01:04:17.920 his hands, and he harnessed his cheese so well that 1317 01:04:18.000 --> 01:04:21.639 the fucking thing lit on fire from Balloch dude, I 1318 01:04:21.719 --> 01:04:24.239 believe that shit all day, Like I think that that's 1319 01:04:24.239 --> 01:04:28.639 actually really true. I don't know. I mean, I if 1320 01:04:28.679 --> 01:04:31.159 it's not true, then it's fascinating. But I tell you what, dude, 1321 01:04:31.440 --> 01:04:33.440 give me, give me a couple of months, Give me 1322 01:04:33.480 --> 01:04:35.880 a couple of months. If I let me tell you, 1323 01:04:35.960 --> 01:04:38.199 if I can fucking do this in front of you, 1324 01:04:38.239 --> 01:04:40.079 what would you think? What would be your. 1325 01:04:40.000 --> 01:04:42.400 First I mean, I would say, give me a couple 1326 01:04:42.440 --> 01:04:44.960 of months, and I can make even more convincing video 1327 01:04:45.000 --> 01:04:47.159 than he just did easily. 1328 01:04:48.039 --> 01:04:50.639 No no, no no, But what I'm saying is more convincing. 1329 01:04:50.639 --> 01:04:52.800 That shit looks convincing a shit to me. But I mean, 1330 01:04:52.840 --> 01:04:55.320 how much more convincing could you be than doing that? 1331 01:04:56.039 --> 01:04:59.960 So we're talking about a styrofoam block, empty plastic bottle, 1332 01:05:00.480 --> 01:05:05.079 blowing out a candle, and uh moving a metal bottle, 1333 01:05:05.800 --> 01:05:09.519 steel bottle across the table, which magnets are a thing 1334 01:05:09.719 --> 01:05:10.360 right like these are? 1335 01:05:10.519 --> 01:05:12.559 Yeah, this is very easy stuff to do. 1336 01:05:12.719 --> 01:05:14.639 What about the bricks he did? He did it with 1337 01:05:14.679 --> 01:05:15.159 bricks too. 1338 01:05:15.199 --> 01:05:18.679 Outside that looked like some wood that wasn't exactly on 1339 01:05:18.800 --> 01:05:20.039 concrete or on flat ground. 1340 01:05:20.039 --> 01:05:21.000 It was in the backyard. 1341 01:05:21.199 --> 01:05:22.960 How likely is it that he kind of made it 1342 01:05:23.000 --> 01:05:25.599 to where it was barely standing up, and he just 1343 01:05:25.679 --> 01:05:27.239 kind of yeah, it's. 1344 01:05:27.360 --> 01:05:29.760 To get it to fall on Q like that though. 1345 01:05:30.480 --> 01:05:32.800 Yeah, like you didn't see five minutes before the video. 1346 01:05:32.840 --> 01:05:35.079 You saw it in that one second before he moved 1347 01:05:35.079 --> 01:05:35.480 his hand. 1348 01:05:35.639 --> 01:05:38.079 Okay, okay, okay, But what I'm trying to say is, though, 1349 01:05:38.159 --> 01:05:40.679 what if if? What if I can learn this? Like 1350 01:05:40.760 --> 01:05:42.559 if I can learn this and then I come and 1351 01:05:42.599 --> 01:05:44.920 I'm not I'm not on video, I'm there. Ain't gonna 1352 01:05:44.920 --> 01:05:47.079 be no movie magic or anything like that. You can 1353 01:05:47.119 --> 01:05:49.079 see me leading all the way up to it. And 1354 01:05:49.119 --> 01:05:51.079 what if I'm able to literally perform it in front 1355 01:05:51.079 --> 01:05:52.880 of your eyes? What would that do to your mind? 1356 01:05:54.840 --> 01:05:58.440 I would be enthralled, I'm honestly I would. I would 1357 01:05:58.480 --> 01:06:01.480 be stoked for you. And if you do that, and 1358 01:06:01.519 --> 01:06:03.639 I'm not over here shitting on you, I'm like, hey, 1359 01:06:04.039 --> 01:06:05.760 if you're able to do it, I would love to 1360 01:06:05.760 --> 01:06:08.599 see it, my boy. Absolutely, If nothing else, we need 1361 01:06:08.639 --> 01:06:10.639 to bring that kind of magic if you want to 1362 01:06:10.679 --> 01:06:13.559 call it that, or chi or whatever to the stage 1363 01:06:13.559 --> 01:06:15.679 at bro Grove, Like I'm here for it, you. 1364 01:06:15.679 --> 01:06:17.679 Know, But that's two weeks. That's two weeks. I don't 1365 01:06:17.719 --> 01:06:19.559 know if that's long enough, or three weeks. 1366 01:06:20.039 --> 01:06:22.679 The next one, you know, whatever, whatever, when we finally 1367 01:06:22.679 --> 01:06:25.320 do our own cult cult a conspiracy meet up one day, 1368 01:06:25.320 --> 01:06:27.920 a cult con if you will, I would love to 1369 01:06:27.920 --> 01:06:29.840 see you be able to harness Chi, to be able 1370 01:06:29.920 --> 01:06:31.280 to do some sort of spectacle. 1371 01:06:31.320 --> 01:06:32.039 I'm here for it. 1372 01:06:32.159 --> 01:06:35.119 Okay, okay, you know what. Three weeks challenge accepted. I'm 1373 01:06:35.119 --> 01:06:38.239 moving fucking bottles with my Chi at bro Grove. Come 1374 01:06:38.239 --> 01:06:40.920 and see it June twentieth and June twenty. First I'll 1375 01:06:40.960 --> 01:06:43.519 be I'm on stage in front of the masses, all 1376 01:06:43.519 --> 01:06:45.880 the good cult members that are going to be there. 1377 01:06:45.960 --> 01:06:48.159 It's going to be quite the spectacle. And I will 1378 01:06:48.199 --> 01:06:51.679 put the doubters, I mean out of their out of 1379 01:06:51.679 --> 01:06:54.719 their doubting mind. And now I guarantee you one thing 1380 01:06:54.760 --> 01:06:57.920 is going to happen because the the Nephelin Desk Squad, 1381 01:06:57.960 --> 01:07:00.679 and I love them and and all their all their followers. 1382 01:07:00.760 --> 01:07:03.639 It is a Christian show, right like they well they 1383 01:07:03.639 --> 01:07:05.440 are they are Christian. I'm not gonna say it's a 1384 01:07:05.480 --> 01:07:05.960 Christian show. 1385 01:07:06.000 --> 01:07:09.079 Yeah, I want to say, by the very barest definition 1386 01:07:09.199 --> 01:07:13.280 of the term, like yo, right right, But I can 1387 01:07:13.400 --> 01:07:15.880 already see it where somebody's gonna. 1388 01:07:15.639 --> 01:07:19.360 Say, oh, that's demons. Oh you know that that's negative entities. 1389 01:07:19.400 --> 01:07:21.280 You know that's going to be said, right. 1390 01:07:21.360 --> 01:07:23.800 All right, But I'm just gonna say this also, now 1391 01:07:23.840 --> 01:07:25.960 that I have this time gap to work with, if 1392 01:07:26.000 --> 01:07:28.480 I'm able to make a fireball come out of my hand, 1393 01:07:28.840 --> 01:07:29.800 I want to hear no shit. 1394 01:07:30.360 --> 01:07:31.159 I want hear no shit. 1395 01:07:31.480 --> 01:07:34.840 Oh dude, yeah, I mean you name it. I would 1396 01:07:34.840 --> 01:07:37.079 be so stoked to be able to see that, Like 1397 01:07:37.199 --> 01:07:40.000 you need me to do your taxes for you next year. 1398 01:07:40.000 --> 01:07:42.679 If you're able to like have a fireball in your hand, bro, 1399 01:07:42.760 --> 01:07:43.599 that would be not. 1400 01:07:43.519 --> 01:07:45.800 In my hand, like shoot one out. 1401 01:07:46.079 --> 01:07:49.239 Just show like just from your own like energy or 1402 01:07:49.480 --> 01:07:51.440 using a flame thing. 1403 01:07:50.559 --> 01:07:54.199 I'm okay, alright, who's to say? 1404 01:07:54.360 --> 01:07:55.320 Are you calling me a liar? 1405 01:07:56.000 --> 01:07:56.360 I haven't. 1406 01:07:57.719 --> 01:08:00.679 I don't know, man, Although realistically what I was gonna do, 1407 01:08:00.719 --> 01:08:02.440 I'm not sure how expensive that is, so I gotta 1408 01:08:02.480 --> 01:08:04.079 look at it. Plus, I don't know if the stage 1409 01:08:04.119 --> 01:08:07.199 is like can do us like it's conducive for fire, 1410 01:08:07.599 --> 01:08:08.960 I don't know. I don't want to get the boys 1411 01:08:09.000 --> 01:08:11.639 in trouble anyway. I hope you're able to do something 1412 01:08:11.679 --> 01:08:12.800 with your chi in three weeks. 1413 01:08:12.800 --> 01:08:15.280 Fuck it, it's conducive with my chiese, sir, I and 1414 01:08:15.360 --> 01:08:17.560 I will I promise that I won't burn the whole 1415 01:08:17.560 --> 01:08:19.640 place down, but I might spark a flame in my hand. 1416 01:08:19.720 --> 01:08:22.680 We'll see. And actually, I'm gonna be kid free this weekend. 1417 01:08:22.760 --> 01:08:25.880 So I mean I could spend twelve hours a day 1418 01:08:25.920 --> 01:08:28.239 on doing this shit and just really fucking. 1419 01:08:28.880 --> 01:08:32.640 You know, progress in a few months. 1420 01:08:32.640 --> 01:08:34.239 Fucking right, dude, I'm so here for it. 1421 01:08:34.319 --> 01:08:36.840 Yeah, And whenever I come on to your show, Josh, 1422 01:08:37.279 --> 01:08:39.239 I'm gonna teach you how to do it, dude, that's 1423 01:08:39.319 --> 01:08:42.239 all right. We're gonna spend a whole day doing it. Dude. 1424 01:08:42.239 --> 01:08:44.479 It's gonna be sick. I just I really do believe 1425 01:08:44.479 --> 01:08:48.399 in that shit, and honestly, especially Jacob, like I wanted 1426 01:08:48.439 --> 01:08:50.920 to do it before. Now I really want to do it. 1427 01:08:51.279 --> 01:08:52.960 Like whenever you get people who are just, oh, I 1428 01:08:53.000 --> 01:08:56.319 don't believe that shit and obviously like that's fake. Oh God, 1429 01:08:56.600 --> 01:08:57.880 that's I love that. 1430 01:08:58.520 --> 01:09:00.920 I should give the distinction here. 1431 01:09:01.199 --> 01:09:03.319 I do believe that there are people who are born 1432 01:09:03.359 --> 01:09:05.600 with certain abilities. For the record, I don't believe that 1433 01:09:05.680 --> 01:09:10.000 telekinesis is one hundred percent bullshit and stage prop like, 1434 01:09:10.079 --> 01:09:11.880 I believe there are some people out there that can 1435 01:09:11.920 --> 01:09:13.960 do this shit, but the same kind of thing that 1436 01:09:14.000 --> 01:09:17.680 I've told you before, right, just like these psychic mediums 1437 01:09:17.760 --> 01:09:20.439 quote unquote, I'm not saying that there's no one out 1438 01:09:20.479 --> 01:09:23.159 there that has like a sixth sensory type of ability 1439 01:09:23.159 --> 01:09:24.600 that can't be explained logically. 1440 01:09:24.720 --> 01:09:26.399 I'm with you that this is probably real. 1441 01:09:26.800 --> 01:09:28.880 I'm saying that they're doing it on TV, then they're 1442 01:09:28.920 --> 01:09:31.119 a fake in a charlatan, That's all I'm. 1443 01:09:30.960 --> 01:09:32.159 Saying every time, though. 1444 01:09:33.079 --> 01:09:36.600 Yeah, Like, because if you're actually got that gift and 1445 01:09:36.640 --> 01:09:39.319 you're actually turning a profit off of it, then it 1446 01:09:39.359 --> 01:09:41.399 tells me right there that it's fake, because people who 1447 01:09:41.439 --> 01:09:44.680 actually had that kind of enlightenment would be disgusted by 1448 01:09:44.760 --> 01:09:47.680 trying to turn a profit off of using this god 1449 01:09:47.720 --> 01:09:51.399 given gift other spirituality gift that they have achieved and 1450 01:09:51.439 --> 01:09:54.720 worked hard for for fucking views. 1451 01:09:54.960 --> 01:09:57.680 Yeah, but what if it's not for that. 1452 01:09:58.119 --> 01:10:00.199 What if it is just to show a you know, 1453 01:10:00.239 --> 01:10:02.760 the masses and everybody else that it is possible, and 1454 01:10:02.800 --> 01:10:04.680 it gets them interested in learning how to do it, 1455 01:10:04.720 --> 01:10:07.079 and it gets them interested in changing their perspective on 1456 01:10:07.640 --> 01:10:10.920 how malleable this reality is. Like It could be awakening 1457 01:10:11.000 --> 01:10:13.199 the dragon inside of you. It could have been sleeping 1458 01:10:13.239 --> 01:10:15.239 all along and now you see this video and it's like, 1459 01:10:15.279 --> 01:10:17.279 all right, let me try it, and next thing you know, 1460 01:10:17.359 --> 01:10:21.079 you're a fucking you know, like a wavebender or windbender 1461 01:10:21.119 --> 01:10:22.680 or whatever the fuck airbender, that's what it was. 1462 01:10:23.479 --> 01:10:26.520 I I'm feeling it's more like Chris Angel or David 1463 01:10:26.560 --> 01:10:29.319 Blaine with magic. Do I believe that there's real magic 1464 01:10:29.560 --> 01:10:32.640 in this world? One hundred percent magic with a K, 1465 01:10:33.119 --> 01:10:34.720 black magic, white magic. 1466 01:10:34.520 --> 01:10:36.760 Call it whatever color spectrum you want. I don't give 1467 01:10:36.800 --> 01:10:39.119 a fuck. I believe that that is real. Right. Do 1468 01:10:39.199 --> 01:10:42.439 I believe that Chris Angel and David Blaine are doing that? No? No, 1469 01:10:43.039 --> 01:10:44.600 like that that. You see what I'm saying here. 1470 01:10:44.640 --> 01:10:47.399 I believe that, like telekinesis, there's probably somebody who can 1471 01:10:47.399 --> 01:10:48.520 move shit with their mind. 1472 01:10:48.880 --> 01:10:50.039 I'm not denying that. 1473 01:10:50.520 --> 01:10:52.479 I believe that this is a real thing that people 1474 01:10:52.560 --> 01:10:54.520 can do. Well, where's it coming from? 1475 01:10:54.560 --> 01:10:55.720 Look? Who am I to say? 1476 01:10:56.199 --> 01:10:58.760 If God bless these people with that gift, or if 1477 01:10:58.800 --> 01:11:01.399 they've called upon the DA Like, I don't know this 1478 01:11:01.520 --> 01:11:03.760 person personally, I can't speak on behalf of that. 1479 01:11:04.159 --> 01:11:06.159 But I'm saying that if they're doing it for content. 1480 01:11:06.359 --> 01:11:09.039 It's like, in my own brain ninety nine point nine 1481 01:11:09.159 --> 01:11:13.199 nine nine percent fake, Like, yeah, but that's just me. 1482 01:11:13.239 --> 01:11:14.960 I'm gonna be that point. I'm gonna be that point 1483 01:11:15.000 --> 01:11:17.159 zero one, sir. You'll see, Okay, you'll see. 1484 01:11:17.199 --> 01:11:18.239 But that's the thing. 1485 01:11:18.239 --> 01:11:21.520 You're not doing it to become TikTok famous. You're doing 1486 01:11:21.600 --> 01:11:24.520 it to learn about your own personal chi. You see 1487 01:11:24.520 --> 01:11:25.039 what I'm saying. 1488 01:11:25.159 --> 01:11:27.439 Yeah, yeah, I mean I'll I'll probably throw it up 1489 01:11:27.439 --> 01:11:29.399 on TikTok and see how many views it gets. And 1490 01:11:29.439 --> 01:11:31.319 if I can make a couple of shekels, then hey, 1491 01:11:31.399 --> 01:11:36.439 you know what I mean, Like that's cool right after Yeah, No, 1492 01:11:36.560 --> 01:11:39.880 I just I'm fascinated about what's possible, you know, Like 1493 01:11:39.960 --> 01:11:42.680 I just I've always wanted to know if it is 1494 01:11:42.800 --> 01:11:46.520 possible for people to do like these these like superpower 1495 01:11:46.600 --> 01:11:49.279 type things, you know, like and that's that's what the 1496 01:11:49.600 --> 01:11:53.159 the Hindus they call them cities, you know, like which 1497 01:11:53.159 --> 01:11:57.560 are basically like superhuman powers. And and they say that 1498 01:11:57.600 --> 01:11:59.600 you don't want to pay too much attention to those 1499 01:11:59.640 --> 01:12:03.159 powers that you eventually learn because it would almost stunt 1500 01:12:03.199 --> 01:12:07.319 your growth from going any farther. And so because the ultimate, 1501 01:12:08.000 --> 01:12:10.880 the ultimate place that you're trying to get to is enlightenment. 1502 01:12:11.000 --> 01:12:14.000 But you do achieve like these superpowers of these cities 1503 01:12:14.039 --> 01:12:18.239 along the way. So I don't know, maybe I'll maybe 1504 01:12:18.319 --> 01:12:21.960 I'll stop and hang out whenever I whenever I learn telekinesis, 1505 01:12:22.000 --> 01:12:24.039 and then I'll just keep on going all the way 1506 01:12:24.119 --> 01:12:28.760 up to enlightenment. You never know, ideally, Ideally, I don't know. 1507 01:12:28.800 --> 01:12:32.199 I'm too much of a fucking heathen to really just 1508 01:12:32.800 --> 01:12:33.720 to see how it. 1509 01:12:33.680 --> 01:12:36.039 Goes, man, Well, absolutely see how it goes. Why not? 1510 01:12:36.560 --> 01:12:40.560 Yeah, dude? Yeah, So anyway, I mean, so, all right, 1511 01:12:40.600 --> 01:12:43.920 so you're basically, I don't want to say life coach, Josh, 1512 01:12:44.039 --> 01:12:47.680 but no, I mean, what what is Let's hear a 1513 01:12:47.720 --> 01:12:49.640 little bit more about what you're what you're aiming to 1514 01:12:49.680 --> 01:12:51.560 get into, and what what you're aiming to try and 1515 01:12:51.600 --> 01:12:55.399 teach people. Yeah, so, well, one of my main things 1516 01:12:55.439 --> 01:12:58.399 I'm teaching right now is how to collapse time. So 1517 01:12:58.960 --> 01:13:02.000 it sounds like a very big. 1518 01:13:01.800 --> 01:13:04.000 Thing to say, but when you actually get into the 1519 01:13:04.079 --> 01:13:06.880 specifics of it, it makes actual practical sense. 1520 01:13:07.119 --> 01:13:07.319 Right. 1521 01:13:08.159 --> 01:13:11.479 But basically, I guess I would consider myself like a 1522 01:13:13.239 --> 01:13:16.039 like a per mental performance kind of thing, like a 1523 01:13:16.039 --> 01:13:18.239 mental performance coach, because that's where I'm going to lean 1524 01:13:18.359 --> 01:13:23.319 to towards. And what this concept I'm teaching about is 1525 01:13:23.359 --> 01:13:27.600 collapsing time. Is, you know, whenever you have a vision, 1526 01:13:28.520 --> 01:13:31.319 let's say your dream. You have a dream of like, 1527 01:13:31.439 --> 01:13:34.920 you know, having a certain amount of income in your pocket, 1528 01:13:35.039 --> 01:13:37.199 or having, you know, being in a certain place in 1529 01:13:37.239 --> 01:13:38.279 the world or whatever. 1530 01:13:39.720 --> 01:13:41.039 A lot of people who have. 1531 01:13:41.000 --> 01:13:44.680 That vision don't have the ability to bridge the gap 1532 01:13:44.720 --> 01:13:48.760 between that and this world right here, because vision, you know, 1533 01:13:49.079 --> 01:13:52.439 is only one layer of the of the of the thing, 1534 01:13:52.520 --> 01:13:54.840 because you know, the mind has to arrive first before 1535 01:13:54.880 --> 01:13:59.199 your body does. And when you have that vision, the 1536 01:13:59.239 --> 01:14:00.840 next thing you need to do. He was able to 1537 01:14:00.960 --> 01:14:03.399 zoom out because if you stay stuck on the vision, 1538 01:14:03.399 --> 01:14:05.720 you actually get tunnel vision. It's kind of like how 1539 01:14:05.760 --> 01:14:07.439 you look at a painting up close and you can't 1540 01:14:07.479 --> 01:14:08.960 see but when you zoom out you get to see 1541 01:14:09.000 --> 01:14:12.279 the painting. And you know, you're not really taught this stuff, 1542 01:14:12.319 --> 01:14:13.920 because you know, now a loud of people don't even 1543 01:14:13.960 --> 01:14:17.159 know how to do it to begin with. But collapsing 1544 01:14:17.199 --> 01:14:19.960 time is essentially learning that the habits that you create 1545 01:14:20.319 --> 01:14:23.800 and the habits that you do every single day is 1546 01:14:23.840 --> 01:14:24.479 what leads you. 1547 01:14:24.439 --> 01:14:25.640 Closer towards your goal. 1548 01:14:26.000 --> 01:14:29.680 Now, the whatever goal that is for you, it becomes 1549 01:14:29.680 --> 01:14:32.439 more tangible when you change the person you are and 1550 01:14:32.479 --> 01:14:35.840 become the person that actually has done that already. Some 1551 01:14:35.840 --> 01:14:38.600 people may call it manifestation. I don't call it that 1552 01:14:38.680 --> 01:14:41.800 because it sounds I feel like that word has been diluted. 1553 01:14:42.920 --> 01:14:45.800 I just call it like, Okay, you have a dream vision, 1554 01:14:46.439 --> 01:14:49.239 this is you. Now you have to bridge the gap 1555 01:14:49.279 --> 01:14:52.359 with actual habits that you build throughout your life to 1556 01:14:52.399 --> 01:14:55.239 get there. Because some people think that it's all just 1557 01:14:55.279 --> 01:14:58.199 that I'll think about something and it happens. Maybe that 1558 01:14:58.279 --> 01:15:00.560 was true in another dimension, but we live here in 1559 01:15:00.560 --> 01:15:03.279 this physical world, so our mind has to arrive there 1560 01:15:03.319 --> 01:15:07.039 and then your body walks with you. So that's basically 1561 01:15:07.079 --> 01:15:10.119 the main thing I'm kind of teaching people how to do. 1562 01:15:10.159 --> 01:15:12.279 And I have a video on YouTube right now that's 1563 01:15:12.279 --> 01:15:15.119 literally called you must collapse time to speed up success, 1564 01:15:15.239 --> 01:15:19.279 if anyone's interested in that. But yeah, I'm teaching these 1565 01:15:19.319 --> 01:15:22.199 concepts that basically, like, your mind is the most powerful 1566 01:15:22.239 --> 01:15:24.399 tool that you have. You know, it's the one thing 1567 01:15:24.399 --> 01:15:28.279 that allows you to perceive everything. And you know, we're 1568 01:15:28.279 --> 01:15:30.880 not taught how to really think we're taught what to think, 1569 01:15:30.960 --> 01:15:33.399 not how to think. Yeah, you know, so all these 1570 01:15:33.439 --> 01:15:37.479 things that we grow up learning and stuff is just memorization. 1571 01:15:37.840 --> 01:15:40.439 You know, hey, remember what two plus two is. But 1572 01:15:40.520 --> 01:15:43.960 they don't teach you how to solve a problem that 1573 01:15:44.039 --> 01:15:47.239 requires actual critical thinking. I mean maybe they did before 1574 01:15:47.319 --> 01:15:50.439 I wasn't around for that time, you know, so, but 1575 01:15:50.760 --> 01:15:53.079 basically I'm trying to bring that back, you know, teaching 1576 01:15:53.119 --> 01:15:57.119 people how to actually rewire their mind, because some people 1577 01:15:57.199 --> 01:15:59.920 don't even have the ability to see the vision. 1578 01:16:00.600 --> 01:16:00.800 You know. 1579 01:16:00.840 --> 01:16:03.439 I know people who have these dreams and they're like, 1580 01:16:03.640 --> 01:16:05.840 I just can't see it, and I say, well, wow, 1581 01:16:05.880 --> 01:16:07.479 why can't you see it? I can see it clear 1582 01:16:07.479 --> 01:16:10.199 as day what I want to do. But apparently it's 1583 01:16:10.239 --> 01:16:12.199 you know, not a lot of people have that vision. 1584 01:16:12.960 --> 01:16:16.039 And that's that's something that you know, I didn't know 1585 01:16:16.079 --> 01:16:18.239 that you could actually like teach people how to do. 1586 01:16:18.319 --> 01:16:20.880 So that's kind of what I'm doing at this moment, Oh. 1587 01:16:20.720 --> 01:16:23.119 Teaching people how to get out of their own way. 1588 01:16:23.000 --> 01:16:25.960 Get out of their own way essentially. Yes, Yeah, yeah, 1589 01:16:26.000 --> 01:16:28.399 there's something really to that shit too, dude. And like, 1590 01:16:28.439 --> 01:16:31.279 if you fully immerse yourself in the vision and the 1591 01:16:31.359 --> 01:16:35.000 dream that you have. It's like it almost it almost 1592 01:16:35.159 --> 01:16:37.119 I don't want to say it paves its own way, 1593 01:16:37.319 --> 01:16:40.199 but I will say that almost, Like your brain is 1594 01:16:40.239 --> 01:16:43.479 now looking for all the opportunities and it's more open 1595 01:16:43.640 --> 01:16:47.800 for all the opportunities to present to you. So and 1596 01:16:47.800 --> 01:16:50.119 and that's all it is. It's just like, are you 1597 01:16:50.159 --> 01:16:52.239 going to take advantage of those opportunities or you're going 1598 01:16:52.319 --> 01:16:54.840 to sit on Instagram for another twenty minutes or TikTok 1599 01:16:54.880 --> 01:16:57.800 for another half an hour? Are you gonna you know, like, uh, 1600 01:16:58.159 --> 01:17:01.199 just stare off into nothingness, Like you're going into the 1601 01:17:01.560 --> 01:17:05.760 lower mind essentially, and you're just consuming and consuming and consuming. 1602 01:17:05.800 --> 01:17:08.359 And if you get out of that consuming type of 1603 01:17:08.439 --> 01:17:10.560 stage where you're looking for the next thing you can 1604 01:17:10.600 --> 01:17:14.720 buy off an Amazon or whatever. If you get yourself 1605 01:17:14.720 --> 01:17:17.199 out of there and almost have like a one track mind, 1606 01:17:17.199 --> 01:17:19.239 you can, dude, I feel like you can really get there. 1607 01:17:19.399 --> 01:17:22.520 And it's a consistency thing because anybody can do something 1608 01:17:22.520 --> 01:17:25.159 for a week, anybody can do something for a fucking month, 1609 01:17:25.479 --> 01:17:28.359 you know, like that's not that impressive. But where people 1610 01:17:28.520 --> 01:17:31.159 because people have these bright ideas and they might be 1611 01:17:31.319 --> 01:17:33.840 really really ambitious about it, and like maybe they have 1612 01:17:33.920 --> 01:17:36.079 a real reason to even do it, But then they 1613 01:17:36.119 --> 01:17:39.319 get in their own way and they can't remain consistent 1614 01:17:39.399 --> 01:17:41.520 with it. And I think that that's the key to 1615 01:17:41.720 --> 01:17:45.479 every single thing, is your consistency towards it. Yeah, you know, 1616 01:17:45.600 --> 01:17:47.880 like people will get on diets and like lose twenty 1617 01:17:47.920 --> 01:17:49.760 or thirty pounds and like, oh my god, I'm feeling 1618 01:17:49.760 --> 01:17:50.279 so much better. 1619 01:17:50.359 --> 01:17:50.880 And this is me. 1620 01:17:51.720 --> 01:17:53.079 You know, I'll get down to a weight that I 1621 01:17:53.119 --> 01:17:55.039 want to get to, and I'll be working out every 1622 01:17:55.119 --> 01:17:56.359 day and then I'm like, you know what, I look 1623 01:17:56.359 --> 01:17:58.760 pretty good. Maybe I'll take today off and then it 1624 01:17:58.920 --> 01:18:01.399 just fucking compounds and compounds, and the next thing, you know, 1625 01:18:01.479 --> 01:18:03.880 you gain forty and you're you're in worse shape than 1626 01:18:04.000 --> 01:18:06.680 when you before you started the diet and everything. 1627 01:18:06.720 --> 01:18:09.880 You know, oh, absolutely have to Yeah, you have to 1628 01:18:09.920 --> 01:18:13.800 hack your mind to like love the hard shit because 1629 01:18:14.199 --> 01:18:17.119 that stuff is so it's hard. You know, it's hard 1630 01:18:17.159 --> 01:18:19.159 to consistently do something for years. I mean I've been 1631 01:18:19.199 --> 01:18:21.640 doing this, mind's eyes shit for four years. You guys 1632 01:18:21.640 --> 01:18:23.399 have been doing this for however long you have, Like, 1633 01:18:23.880 --> 01:18:26.399 you know that that's hard shit, even when stuff is 1634 01:18:26.439 --> 01:18:29.079 not paying off, especially when stuff is not paying off, 1635 01:18:29.119 --> 01:18:31.359 that's the part ninety nine percent of people quit. 1636 01:18:31.840 --> 01:18:34.920 Yeah, you know, you gotta love the process itself, you know, 1637 01:18:35.000 --> 01:18:37.920 I mean, and I mean that's work. Like nothing in 1638 01:18:37.920 --> 01:18:39.920 this life, nothing in this world is just going to 1639 01:18:40.000 --> 01:18:42.640 be handed to you. Well, there are some people that 1640 01:18:42.720 --> 01:18:45.319 are born with a silver spoon, and I'm fine, Fine, 1641 01:18:45.520 --> 01:18:48.520 that's that is the rarest of exceptions for the vast 1642 01:18:48.560 --> 01:18:50.800 majority of us. Like Jonathan, like you said, it's about 1643 01:18:50.800 --> 01:18:53.720 being the difference between being somebody who is a consumer 1644 01:18:53.760 --> 01:18:56.840 and somebody who is a creator. Is the creator decided 1645 01:18:56.880 --> 01:19:00.359 to actually get up and do it and consistently did 1646 01:19:00.439 --> 01:19:03.399 it over and over again until they got better at it. 1647 01:19:03.399 --> 01:19:05.359 It could be It could be painting, okay, and I'm 1648 01:19:05.359 --> 01:19:08.640 not saying becoming like a world famous artist or nothing 1649 01:19:08.680 --> 01:19:11.199 like that. But if you want to start painting, but 1650 01:19:11.760 --> 01:19:14.800 you've never went and bought art supplies, you've never sat 1651 01:19:14.880 --> 01:19:17.640 down and learned or even watched some YouTube, watch more 1652 01:19:17.720 --> 01:19:21.000 Bob ross Bro, watch a little White Afro Man himself 1653 01:19:21.000 --> 01:19:24.359 and learn about brushstrokes. And if you never actually put 1654 01:19:24.439 --> 01:19:26.960 brush to paper or brush to canvas, I should say, 1655 01:19:27.239 --> 01:19:29.039 then you'll never become a painter. 1656 01:19:29.560 --> 01:19:30.159 And whatever the. 1657 01:19:30.119 --> 01:19:33.439 Case may be, if you want to be more enlightened, 1658 01:19:33.439 --> 01:19:35.520 if you want to be more educated, if you want 1659 01:19:35.520 --> 01:19:38.600 to be more more musically gifted, whatever the case would be. 1660 01:19:39.199 --> 01:19:42.000 It's about you got to decide that you're willing to 1661 01:19:42.199 --> 01:19:45.399 actually put put put your ass in the position to 1662 01:19:45.479 --> 01:19:49.319 do it right. Opportunities come, opportunities will come and go, 1663 01:19:49.720 --> 01:19:52.439 money will come and go, Relationships will come and go. 1664 01:19:52.880 --> 01:19:56.560 Everything in this life, including this very life, is temporary. 1665 01:19:56.920 --> 01:19:57.199 Okay. 1666 01:19:57.239 --> 01:19:59.199 Now, I'm not trying to have a spiritual conversation about 1667 01:19:59.239 --> 01:20:01.520 what happens after death. I'm talking about this cycle that 1668 01:20:01.560 --> 01:20:03.640 we're on right now, this human body, this carbon based 1669 01:20:03.640 --> 01:20:06.680 flesh shoot that we're in, this bitch is temporary. Okay, 1670 01:20:06.920 --> 01:20:09.159 So what are you going to do with it? While 1671 01:20:09.199 --> 01:20:11.960 you got it? You can waste the opportunity that is 1672 01:20:12.319 --> 01:20:14.960 a freedom that you have. That's your prerogative, and you'd 1673 01:20:15.039 --> 01:20:17.319 rather sit there and doom scroll every single day for 1674 01:20:17.359 --> 01:20:19.880 the rest of your life wishing that man, I wish 1675 01:20:19.960 --> 01:20:22.520 I could be dot dot dot, I wish I could 1676 01:20:22.600 --> 01:20:25.720 do dot dot dot. Then that's all you'll ever do 1677 01:20:25.840 --> 01:20:29.239 is wish and want. But there are those that get 1678 01:20:29.319 --> 01:20:31.319 up and decide to know what I'm gonna give it 1679 01:20:31.359 --> 01:20:33.920 the old college try. I'm gonna see what it is 1680 01:20:34.000 --> 01:20:38.199 and maybe, just maybe the door will open to you 1681 01:20:38.199 --> 01:20:40.760 one day where you decide that, you know what, maybe 1682 01:20:40.760 --> 01:20:44.079 this is worth betting it all on. Maybe I believe 1683 01:20:44.079 --> 01:20:47.520 in myself enough in this path or on this journey 1684 01:20:47.560 --> 01:20:49.319 or whatever this would be to. 1685 01:20:49.399 --> 01:20:50.840 Take this step. 1686 01:20:51.359 --> 01:20:53.760 And some people see that opportunity and turn away from it, 1687 01:20:54.119 --> 01:20:56.199 which and that's fine too. You know, there's no right 1688 01:20:56.319 --> 01:20:59.600 or wrong way to do life. But I, for one, 1689 01:21:00.079 --> 01:21:03.079 refuse to be laid up on my deathbed at the 1690 01:21:03.239 --> 01:21:05.600 ripe old age of fifty and look back at my 1691 01:21:05.720 --> 01:21:08.159 life and decide, Man, I wish I would have done 1692 01:21:08.399 --> 01:21:09.239 dot dot dot. 1693 01:21:09.840 --> 01:21:12.520 I fucking bet not. Okay, I can't have that. 1694 01:21:12.640 --> 01:21:15.359 Well, And that's why it almost has to Everything has 1695 01:21:15.439 --> 01:21:17.600 to start as a hobby, though, Like you have to 1696 01:21:17.800 --> 01:21:22.319 legit enjoy doing what you're doing, because if you hate it, 1697 01:21:22.359 --> 01:21:24.159 then you're never gonna get good at it. Like you 1698 01:21:24.239 --> 01:21:27.279 have to almost fucking love it beyond level. You have 1699 01:21:27.359 --> 01:21:30.279 to obsess about it. And I feel like that's kind 1700 01:21:30.279 --> 01:21:32.760 of what we did over here, Like we were obsessed 1701 01:21:33.000 --> 01:21:36.079 in the beginning, especially with conspiracies, wanting to know and 1702 01:21:36.399 --> 01:21:38.880 everything was still you know, pretty brand new and even 1703 01:21:38.960 --> 01:21:40.600 to this day, a lot of the information that we 1704 01:21:40.640 --> 01:21:43.720 cover is very brand new. But it's like an obsessive thing, 1705 01:21:43.840 --> 01:21:46.039 like we need to know about this, we need to 1706 01:21:46.079 --> 01:21:48.520 know about that, what's the history on this, what's the 1707 01:21:49.079 --> 01:21:52.199 future possibility look like on that kind of thing. And 1708 01:21:52.520 --> 01:21:56.439 there's actually if you ever heard of Malcolm Gladwell, he 1709 01:21:56.479 --> 01:21:59.399 has the ten thousand hour rule that essentially, if you 1710 01:21:59.399 --> 01:22:02.039 do anything for ten thousand hours, you can become an 1711 01:22:02.119 --> 01:22:05.479 expert in it. And that's you know, that's around about it. 1712 01:22:05.560 --> 01:22:08.119 Depending on whatever it is, like, some things are gonna 1713 01:22:08.159 --> 01:22:10.319 be harder, somethings are going to be easier, you know, 1714 01:22:10.880 --> 01:22:14.279 but typically around ten thousand hours if you immerse yourself 1715 01:22:14.279 --> 01:22:16.600 into it. And that's not even just like like say 1716 01:22:16.640 --> 01:22:19.359 for this, like for shooting an episode, right, you know, 1717 01:22:19.399 --> 01:22:22.359 our show is typically last two to three hours. There's 1718 01:22:22.560 --> 01:22:25.279 a lot more hours behind the scenes that go into 1719 01:22:25.319 --> 01:22:29.319 making every single show. Right. It's coming up with a concept, 1720 01:22:29.359 --> 01:22:32.520 it's doing the research, it's doing even deeper research and 1721 01:22:32.560 --> 01:22:35.119 then learning it all yourself so much to where you 1722 01:22:35.159 --> 01:22:39.119 can talk about it like like like in the best 1723 01:22:39.119 --> 01:22:42.000 way that you know you can whenever, whenever the time comes, 1724 01:22:42.119 --> 01:22:44.319 and so there's a lot of time that goes into it. 1725 01:22:44.439 --> 01:22:46.479 Do you run episode eight hundred in something? 1726 01:22:47.079 --> 01:22:47.399 Yeah? 1727 01:22:47.479 --> 01:22:50.239 Yeah, I haven't even done eight hundred episode. I've done 1728 01:22:50.279 --> 01:22:52.640 about one hundred and sixty, I mean. 1729 01:22:52.600 --> 01:22:53.039 Fair enough. 1730 01:22:53.039 --> 01:22:55.359 But we're also running, you know, seven days a week. 1731 01:22:55.399 --> 01:22:58.399 But that's that's different though. But to your point, John, 1732 01:22:58.439 --> 01:23:01.359 at than one hundred percent, Like it's this is dad 1733 01:23:01.439 --> 01:23:03.800 advice that I feel like all of us should have gotten, 1734 01:23:03.800 --> 01:23:07.560 but a very few of us actually got. Right, find 1735 01:23:07.600 --> 01:23:10.479 what you love to do, then find a way to 1736 01:23:10.520 --> 01:23:13.920 make money off of it. Yeah, Okay, Now, granted some 1737 01:23:14.159 --> 01:23:16.279 people that's gonna be harder than others. 1738 01:23:16.359 --> 01:23:20.039 I get that. Me and Jonathan love talking. We love 1739 01:23:20.119 --> 01:23:21.560 running our fucking mouths. 1740 01:23:21.720 --> 01:23:24.640 Okay, Now, ten years ago, if you would have told 1741 01:23:24.680 --> 01:23:27.199 me I would get paid to talk, I would have 1742 01:23:27.279 --> 01:23:29.119 said that you're out of your fucking mind. How did 1743 01:23:29.119 --> 01:23:31.920 I know that podcasting would be a thing for the future, right, 1744 01:23:31.960 --> 01:23:34.239 I had no idea. But that's the thing, like, like 1745 01:23:34.319 --> 01:23:36.399 we're talking about, you gotta love the process. You gotta 1746 01:23:36.520 --> 01:23:39.239 love the work that you're putting in to achieve your goal. 1747 01:23:39.600 --> 01:23:42.159 And if you can find and everybody's different, everybody's got 1748 01:23:42.199 --> 01:23:44.920 a thing that makes their their heart flutter and makes 1749 01:23:44.960 --> 01:23:48.239 their mind just explode with ideas and inspiration. Whatever that 1750 01:23:48.319 --> 01:23:51.800 is to everybody, right, find a way to do that 1751 01:23:51.840 --> 01:23:53.159 to the best of your abilities. 1752 01:23:53.479 --> 01:23:55.960 Opportunities will come along for you to capitalize on that. 1753 01:23:56.039 --> 01:24:00.279 Later on, mm hmm, I heard this saying that you know, 1754 01:24:02.600 --> 01:24:06.920 consistency will outshine talent all the time because you know, 1755 01:24:06.960 --> 01:24:09.920 the person who's very talented already feels like they're the 1756 01:24:09.960 --> 01:24:11.640 best at it, so they will just stay where they 1757 01:24:11.680 --> 01:24:14.680 are because they're already talented in that field. The person 1758 01:24:14.720 --> 01:24:17.840 who's consistent twenty four to seven will catch up to 1759 01:24:17.880 --> 01:24:22.359 that person and eventually surpass them and whatever shape that takes. 1760 01:24:22.680 --> 01:24:24.960 Dude, one hundred percent, let me tell you something like 1761 01:24:25.079 --> 01:24:29.760 pretty wild. Actually, so whenever I so, I'm originally from Pennsylvania, 1762 01:24:29.800 --> 01:24:32.039 but then I moved to Louisiana whenever I was sixteen. 1763 01:24:32.159 --> 01:24:34.079 Whenever I was living in Pennsylvania, I went to a 1764 01:24:34.199 --> 01:24:37.840 one A high school with sixty kids. In my entire grade, 1765 01:24:37.960 --> 01:24:41.079 there was about I don't know, twenty kids on the 1766 01:24:41.079 --> 01:24:44.479 football team, which you know is from over there. Like 1767 01:24:44.560 --> 01:24:47.359 you could play varsity football in eighth grade, Like if you. 1768 01:24:47.319 --> 01:24:48.920 Were had if the team was going both ways, is 1769 01:24:48.920 --> 01:24:49.479 what you're saying. 1770 01:24:50.199 --> 01:24:52.399 Yeah, some of them, some of them definitely were. I 1771 01:24:52.760 --> 01:24:54.279 was doing both ways, which I go. 1772 01:24:54.479 --> 01:24:56.439 Line was also that d line, you feel me. 1773 01:24:56.800 --> 01:24:58.920 I used to love that, bro. I would play fucking 1774 01:24:59.000 --> 01:25:02.079 d end and then little guard on offense. Dude, I 1775 01:25:02.119 --> 01:25:04.000 love that. And I never got tired or anything, which 1776 01:25:04.039 --> 01:25:07.800 is awesome. But and then I moved to Louisiana to 1777 01:25:07.880 --> 01:25:11.039 a five A high school, Dutch Day Dutchtown High School, 1778 01:25:11.880 --> 01:25:15.359 and I literally went to high school with two NFL 1779 01:25:15.399 --> 01:25:19.079 football players, right, And Dude, whenever you walk into that 1780 01:25:19.159 --> 01:25:22.279 gym and you see these fucking people for the first time, 1781 01:25:22.359 --> 01:25:25.640 it's like looking at gods. Bro. Like, I was like 1782 01:25:25.840 --> 01:25:30.560 so fucking normal, you know, like normal size, which I 1783 01:25:30.560 --> 01:25:32.399 thought I was actually I used to be. I used 1784 01:25:32.439 --> 01:25:34.279 to think that I was kind of big for my 1785 01:25:34.359 --> 01:25:36.359 size and my age and everything because I played on 1786 01:25:36.399 --> 01:25:39.279 the line. You know, the linemen are usually your biggest boys. Right. 1787 01:25:39.680 --> 01:25:42.800 And then I come here or not here, but to Louisiana, 1788 01:25:43.000 --> 01:25:47.119 and I see these gargantuan like monsters of men. And 1789 01:25:47.159 --> 01:25:50.000 I went to high school with if anybody knows Eddie Lacy, 1790 01:25:50.720 --> 01:25:52.279 who went on to he was a running back. He 1791 01:25:52.560 --> 01:25:55.800 went to play for Alabama with Nick Saban, and then 1792 01:25:55.840 --> 01:25:57.720 he went to play in the NFL. He played for 1793 01:25:57.800 --> 01:26:01.119 the Packers, right, and I also played with and this 1794 01:26:01.159 --> 01:26:03.920 is gonna be a fun conspiracy name, and he was 1795 01:26:03.920 --> 01:26:07.319 actually my next door neighbor is Eric Reid. Eric Reid 1796 01:26:07.399 --> 01:26:09.279 went to go play at LSU and then he went 1797 01:26:09.319 --> 01:26:10.880 to go play for the forty nine ers and a 1798 01:26:10.880 --> 01:26:12.880 couple of other teams. But he was the guy. He 1799 01:26:12.960 --> 01:26:15.159 was like the right hand man to Colin Kaepernick with 1800 01:26:15.199 --> 01:26:19.119 all that black lives matter shit, and but yeah, I 1801 01:26:19.199 --> 01:26:22.680 just remember especially Eddie Lacy, you know, dude, he never 1802 01:26:22.760 --> 01:26:25.680 even had to work out, Like he never had to run, 1803 01:26:25.760 --> 01:26:29.920 he never had to lift weights, just fucking god structure 1804 01:26:30.119 --> 01:26:33.800 of a body and just naturally gifted, I mean the eyes, 1805 01:26:33.880 --> 01:26:37.920 the vision, the quickness, the agility. Would I mean literally 1806 01:26:38.239 --> 01:26:40.439 he would be running through the hole and he would 1807 01:26:40.520 --> 01:26:42.760 tell you what he's going to do and you would 1808 01:26:42.800 --> 01:26:45.159 still miss it. Like literally he would be running through 1809 01:26:45.159 --> 01:26:47.640 the hole. Like let's say he's running through fucking h 1810 01:26:48.640 --> 01:26:51.600 the a gap or whatever, right, and he's he's gonna 1811 01:26:51.640 --> 01:26:54.600 hit the hole. He'll tell you circle button, which means 1812 01:26:54.680 --> 01:26:57.520 he's gonna spin right like Madden Madden Terms, and he 1813 01:26:57.560 --> 01:27:00.159 would just fucking just take off right and you even 1814 01:27:00.199 --> 01:27:02.800 if you got arms on him, he would bulldoze you 1815 01:27:02.960 --> 01:27:05.840 like just a monster. Right, Dude, he goes to the NFL. 1816 01:27:05.960 --> 01:27:08.159 He's awesome, you know, for his first couple of years, 1817 01:27:08.439 --> 01:27:11.439 but then he stops working at it and he ends 1818 01:27:11.520 --> 01:27:14.359 up getting fat. And he loves this. He always said 1819 01:27:14.359 --> 01:27:16.920 that he loved like Chinese food and everything. Dude, he 1820 01:27:17.000 --> 01:27:19.880 ended up, Dude, he became known as fat Eddie. He 1821 01:27:19.960 --> 01:27:26.920 was basically like literally like he became he became essentially 1822 01:27:27.039 --> 01:27:31.079 like my generation's Jerome bettis like a big fat boy 1823 01:27:31.119 --> 01:27:34.439 in the backfield. Right. Oh no, he stopped working at it. 1824 01:27:34.520 --> 01:27:37.840 He stopped working at it. He got lazy. He relied 1825 01:27:37.840 --> 01:27:40.119 too much on his natural gifts. And so I think 1826 01:27:40.239 --> 01:27:43.079 that's that's like a really good you know comparison there. 1827 01:27:43.399 --> 01:27:45.920 And then you'll see other people that maybe they weren't 1828 01:27:45.960 --> 01:27:48.680 huge in high school. You know Eric Reid for example, Dude, 1829 01:27:48.680 --> 01:27:51.119 he was scrawny in high school. Like I was bigger 1830 01:27:51.119 --> 01:27:53.119 than him, I was faster than him, I was stronger 1831 01:27:53.159 --> 01:27:55.319 than him. I thought I knew football a little bit 1832 01:27:55.359 --> 01:27:58.119 better than him. Next thing, you know, he's playing for LSU. 1833 01:27:58.399 --> 01:28:00.520 Next thing, you know, he's playing for the same Francisco 1834 01:28:00.560 --> 01:28:02.399 forty nine ers. He worked at it, you know, and 1835 01:28:02.479 --> 01:28:04.359 he got there and he put into work and he 1836 01:28:04.560 --> 01:28:06.800 ended up having a good career you know as a result. 1837 01:28:06.920 --> 01:28:10.079 So fighting with the armored combat like I do, has 1838 01:28:10.079 --> 01:28:12.600 taught me one thing. If it's taught me anything, has 1839 01:28:12.600 --> 01:28:15.560 taught me one thing. If you think you're working hard enough, 1840 01:28:15.640 --> 01:28:19.279 you're wrong. You are so wrong that the minute you 1841 01:28:19.359 --> 01:28:23.159 think all right, that's enough, you you've already lost because 1842 01:28:23.199 --> 01:28:25.760 there's somebody out there putting in three more hours that 1843 01:28:25.840 --> 01:28:26.760 day than you just did. 1844 01:28:26.880 --> 01:28:28.199 No, no two ways about it. 1845 01:28:28.880 --> 01:28:31.760 Yeah. Yeah, So it's you know, it's definitely about getting 1846 01:28:31.800 --> 01:28:34.159 out of your own way and stop just resting on 1847 01:28:34.199 --> 01:28:37.880 your laurels as they say, right, and always just trying 1848 01:28:37.920 --> 01:28:40.119 to evolve. So that's that's kind of like what you're 1849 01:28:40.159 --> 01:28:42.359 talking about is essentially, you know, just trying to get 1850 01:28:42.359 --> 01:28:44.439 out of your own way and out hustle and out 1851 01:28:44.479 --> 01:28:47.760 pace I mean, forget about competition, like you're competing against 1852 01:28:47.760 --> 01:28:49.079 yourself is really what you're doing. 1853 01:28:49.239 --> 01:28:52.239 Oh yeah, yeah, that's the that's the most difficult part 1854 01:28:52.319 --> 01:28:57.239 because we're used to having accountability from other people or 1855 01:28:57.319 --> 01:29:01.119 other structures in her life. And when you're finally in 1856 01:29:01.159 --> 01:29:04.119 a place where you know, you get out what you 1857 01:29:04.279 --> 01:29:07.039 put in is kind of like, damn, so it is 1858 01:29:07.119 --> 01:29:09.479 all my fault, and you know, it's hard to accept 1859 01:29:09.479 --> 01:29:12.520 that that. You know, the reason why certain things are 1860 01:29:12.520 --> 01:29:14.840 probably not working in either your business or your personal 1861 01:29:14.880 --> 01:29:17.319 life is most likely from the decisions that you made, 1862 01:29:17.840 --> 01:29:19.640 you know, and you don't see it because you're in it, 1863 01:29:19.960 --> 01:29:21.720 But when you step out and you actually get to 1864 01:29:21.760 --> 01:29:24.760 see it, you're like, damn, well, yeah, that makes total sense. 1865 01:29:24.920 --> 01:29:27.920 So it's kind of like why you know how therapists 1866 01:29:28.520 --> 01:29:30.880 can pretty much give therapy to everyone, but they're like 1867 01:29:30.920 --> 01:29:33.680 still drinking your shit on the side. You know, therapists 1868 01:29:33.680 --> 01:29:35.640 have their own therapists too. 1869 01:29:35.840 --> 01:29:36.000 You know. 1870 01:29:36.479 --> 01:29:39.439 It's just like that, no, I agree with you, And 1871 01:29:39.479 --> 01:29:41.279 that's something that me and Jonathan have also had to 1872 01:29:41.359 --> 01:29:43.840 learn working for ourselves and owning our own business and 1873 01:29:43.880 --> 01:29:47.239 all this other shit. Like, bro, there is no more excuses, 1874 01:29:47.600 --> 01:29:49.000 like the buck stops with us. 1875 01:29:49.119 --> 01:29:51.079 If something happens and. 1876 01:29:51.000 --> 01:29:54.640 We don't do well enough, it's because we didn't do 1877 01:29:54.760 --> 01:29:55.359 well enough. 1878 01:29:55.359 --> 01:29:57.880 There's no fingers to point in any direction. And You're 1879 01:29:57.920 --> 01:29:58.800 absolutely right, Bro. 1880 01:29:58.880 --> 01:30:02.000 That's and that's kind of for somebody to take that 1881 01:30:02.159 --> 01:30:04.680 on not just business, but even in personal life and 1882 01:30:04.720 --> 01:30:08.600 take not just personal responsibility, but understanding the gravity of 1883 01:30:08.640 --> 01:30:12.319 that right, Understanding that like it is up to me 1884 01:30:12.680 --> 01:30:17.399 whether I thrive or fail today, Like that's that's something 1885 01:30:17.399 --> 01:30:20.279 that a lot of people have a hard time grasping. 1886 01:30:20.359 --> 01:30:22.359 I've said this before, and I'll probably die on this 1887 01:30:22.439 --> 01:30:25.720 hill one day. I feel like the American people have 1888 01:30:25.880 --> 01:30:30.760 this weird version of what they believe. Freedom is right. 1889 01:30:31.319 --> 01:30:37.079 True freedom is terrifying right. True freedom is full responsibility 1890 01:30:37.239 --> 01:30:40.840 for yourself. No one's coming to help, no one's got 1891 01:30:40.920 --> 01:30:42.840 your back. And now I'm not saying that we shouldn't 1892 01:30:42.880 --> 01:30:44.319 have each other's backs and take care of each other. 1893 01:30:44.359 --> 01:30:45.479 We should have this sense community. 1894 01:30:45.479 --> 01:30:49.119 But my point is true absolute freedom means that you 1895 01:30:49.199 --> 01:30:52.520 are one hundred percent taking all responsibility for however this 1896 01:30:52.560 --> 01:30:53.399 shit shakes out. 1897 01:30:53.880 --> 01:30:54.840 I have a. 1898 01:30:54.800 --> 01:30:58.840 Belief that most Americans don't actually want freedom. They want 1899 01:30:58.840 --> 01:31:02.119 the freedom to be comfortable rights. That's more of what 1900 01:31:02.159 --> 01:31:05.439 they're thriving towards. You want to see true freedom. The 1901 01:31:05.479 --> 01:31:08.800 Alaskan dude that's living in a log cabin one hundred 1902 01:31:08.800 --> 01:31:11.840 miles away from civilization. That dude is as free as 1903 01:31:11.840 --> 01:31:14.359 you could possibly fucking get. He can do whatever he 1904 01:31:14.399 --> 01:31:16.640 wants and no one is coming to stop him. But 1905 01:31:16.800 --> 01:31:20.840 also if a bear attacks him, he's on his fucking own. 1906 01:31:20.920 --> 01:31:22.920 You see what I'm saying. Yeah, there's some give and 1907 01:31:22.960 --> 01:31:23.479 take with that. 1908 01:31:24.560 --> 01:31:28.960 Mm yeah, yeah, there's definitely there. There is something to it, dude. 1909 01:31:29.239 --> 01:31:31.319 You know, we all love our comfort and everything, but 1910 01:31:31.720 --> 01:31:34.079 ultimately that's kind of what the system relies on, as 1911 01:31:34.119 --> 01:31:37.199 people being comfortable and reliant, you know, and place it 1912 01:31:37.600 --> 01:31:41.439 and complace it and that whole consumerism and materialism and 1913 01:31:41.479 --> 01:31:43.319 everything else. And it's just trying to get out of 1914 01:31:43.319 --> 01:31:45.760 your own way to be able to transcend that in 1915 01:31:45.840 --> 01:31:48.760 a sense. And I think that you know, whenever you're 1916 01:31:49.840 --> 01:31:51.920 the the thing about getting in your own way is 1917 01:31:51.920 --> 01:31:53.399 that most of the time you don't even know you're 1918 01:31:53.399 --> 01:31:56.279 doing it, you know, like it's like you're in this 1919 01:31:56.439 --> 01:31:58.319 fucking true just. 1920 01:31:58.199 --> 01:31:59.560 Do what everybody else is doing. 1921 01:32:00.079 --> 01:32:03.399 I mean, it's not bad, but one hundred percent everybody's 1922 01:32:03.439 --> 01:32:05.119 in their own fucking way, man, right. 1923 01:32:05.199 --> 01:32:08.560 And even conversely, like so you can actually look at 1924 01:32:08.600 --> 01:32:12.359 habits like a habit and in multiple different ways, right. So, 1925 01:32:12.560 --> 01:32:15.079 like and I've heard like sach Guru and stuff like 1926 01:32:15.119 --> 01:32:18.439 this talk people like him talk about this kind of stuff. 1927 01:32:18.600 --> 01:32:21.239 And basically, a habit is something that you do that 1928 01:32:21.279 --> 01:32:23.640 you're not even really fully aware in the moment that 1929 01:32:23.680 --> 01:32:28.199 you're doing it, you know, And that can work in 1930 01:32:28.319 --> 01:32:30.880 multiple ways. So if you get in the habit of 1931 01:32:31.479 --> 01:32:33.760 meditating every morning, well you don't even really have to 1932 01:32:33.760 --> 01:32:35.359 work for it, you know, you can just get up 1933 01:32:35.359 --> 01:32:37.279 and do it. You get in the habit of like us, 1934 01:32:37.319 --> 01:32:40.079 you know, researching for a show and trying to get 1935 01:32:40.119 --> 01:32:42.720 guests and you know, thinking of topics or whatever and 1936 01:32:42.720 --> 01:32:44.560 looking out into the world see what's going on. You 1937 01:32:44.600 --> 01:32:46.319 can get in the habit of that. But ultimately the 1938 01:32:46.359 --> 01:32:49.520 goal is to just transcend even the habitual ways and 1939 01:32:49.600 --> 01:32:52.279 try and remain as in the moment as you possibly can, 1940 01:32:52.600 --> 01:32:55.079 because once you're in the moment, you're not thinking about 1941 01:32:55.119 --> 01:32:57.840 you're not stressing about what's coming next, you're stressing about 1942 01:32:57.840 --> 01:33:00.479 what you got to do later, and you're also not 1943 01:33:00.520 --> 01:33:03.359 really thinking so much even about your past if you're 1944 01:33:03.399 --> 01:33:05.760 truly living in the moment. And so you know, you 1945 01:33:06.159 --> 01:33:10.079 want to really try and transcend all kind of habitual 1946 01:33:10.520 --> 01:33:14.439 shit in general, because you're not You're you don't have 1947 01:33:14.479 --> 01:33:16.680 that level of awareness. You're just like saying, you know, 1948 01:33:16.920 --> 01:33:20.600 all right, computer mechanism in my mind, just do what 1949 01:33:20.640 --> 01:33:22.680 you do like you're not even doing it, you know. 1950 01:33:22.840 --> 01:33:27.600 So getting out of the habitual stage is definitely something 1951 01:33:27.640 --> 01:33:29.439 that you should be working on too, I think. 1952 01:33:29.520 --> 01:33:32.199 And I heard something along those lines that once you 1953 01:33:32.319 --> 01:33:34.760 become aware of a habit, now it becomes a choice 1954 01:33:34.760 --> 01:33:41.399 if you keep doing it. Yeah, yeah, crazy, I could 1955 01:33:41.439 --> 01:33:42.399 get down with that, dude. 1956 01:33:42.520 --> 01:33:45.319 Everybody is a choice at every second of every day, 1957 01:33:45.399 --> 01:33:47.680 even and you really realize that. And I don't know 1958 01:33:47.680 --> 01:33:49.479 if you have kids yet or not, or whatever the case, 1959 01:33:49.520 --> 01:33:54.000 but that becomes very abundantly clear whenever you have children, 1960 01:33:54.159 --> 01:33:56.399 because you realize that from the moment you open your 1961 01:33:56.399 --> 01:33:59.000 eyes every morning to the moment you close your eyes, 1962 01:33:59.079 --> 01:34:01.720 what time you even open your eyes in the morning 1963 01:34:01.840 --> 01:34:04.399 and what time you go to bed at night is 1964 01:34:04.439 --> 01:34:08.000 completely dependent, Like everything you do has an effect on 1965 01:34:08.119 --> 01:34:11.159 your child in one way, shape or form or another. Right, 1966 01:34:11.800 --> 01:34:15.560 and you realize that everything is a series of choices. 1967 01:34:15.840 --> 01:34:19.600 Some are better choices than others, some are completely incorrect choices, 1968 01:34:19.640 --> 01:34:21.840 whatever the case is. Everybody's got their own life journey 1969 01:34:21.840 --> 01:34:26.319 that they're walking, right. But everything is a choice. Even 1970 01:34:26.439 --> 01:34:29.600 choosing not to decide is still a choice. To quote 1971 01:34:29.640 --> 01:34:31.760 the Great Rush if you will. 1972 01:34:31.800 --> 01:34:34.239 But yeah, I'm with you one hundred percent. Man. 1973 01:34:34.399 --> 01:34:36.840 It's and whenever you're aware of a habit that you're doing. 1974 01:34:37.119 --> 01:34:38.319 Some habits are very good. 1975 01:34:38.840 --> 01:34:39.680 Some habits are good. 1976 01:34:39.760 --> 01:34:43.720 Working out is objectively a very good habit to take on, 1977 01:34:44.239 --> 01:34:46.920 and that is also a choice. You have to choose 1978 01:34:46.960 --> 01:34:49.319 to work out, you have to choose to push yourself 1979 01:34:49.319 --> 01:34:53.800 to new limits. Adversely, choosing to drink a two liters 1980 01:34:53.840 --> 01:34:56.239 or coke every day, that's a choice. That's a habit 1981 01:34:56.439 --> 01:34:58.640 some people that's an absolute habit, but that is a 1982 01:34:58.720 --> 01:35:01.039 choice that can absolutely lead to your demise. 1983 01:35:01.600 --> 01:35:03.239 Life is a series of choices, man. 1984 01:35:04.359 --> 01:35:07.119 Yeah, for sure. So what are what are some other 1985 01:35:07.159 --> 01:35:09.680 things that you got planned for the future? You said 1986 01:35:09.720 --> 01:35:11.319 you got a couple of different things that you got 1987 01:35:11.319 --> 01:35:14.039 planned and things that you want to get into. What 1988 01:35:14.119 --> 01:35:17.560 are some other ways that you're trying to help kind. 1989 01:35:17.399 --> 01:35:21.880 Of Well, not only so basically, not only am I 1990 01:35:21.960 --> 01:35:24.479 giving away like all this information for free because I 1991 01:35:24.479 --> 01:35:28.199 think information should be free. So I'm pretty much giving 1992 01:35:28.239 --> 01:35:30.640 all my sauce online. That's sounding crazy to say, but 1993 01:35:30.680 --> 01:35:34.560 you understand what I'm saying. Yeah, so I'm giving that 1994 01:35:34.600 --> 01:35:37.319 stuff away, but I'm also offering, like, you know, if 1995 01:35:37.319 --> 01:35:39.600 people want to work with me personally to do that too. 1996 01:35:39.720 --> 01:35:43.199 So I'm doing that on the back end side, but 1997 01:35:43.439 --> 01:35:46.000 on the front end side, I am trying to just 1998 01:35:46.079 --> 01:35:49.359 give this information to as much people as possible and 1999 01:35:49.479 --> 01:35:52.479 whoever benefits from it great, and whoever doesn't, well that's 2000 01:35:52.600 --> 01:35:55.319 great too, I guess. And on the back end, you know, 2001 01:35:55.600 --> 01:35:58.479 people have you know, they have my links aver, my website, 2002 01:35:58.479 --> 01:36:00.479 they can come work with me personally and we could 2003 01:36:00.760 --> 01:36:03.359 you know, work together to see what's going on. In 2004 01:36:03.439 --> 01:36:07.680 that aspect, I'm mostly in working more with people who 2005 01:36:07.720 --> 01:36:10.600 own businesses because I'm applying like these concepts to people 2006 01:36:10.600 --> 01:36:14.199 who own businesses, so it's like a little more targeted 2007 01:36:14.239 --> 01:36:16.680 that way, So I'm not just working with everyone. So 2008 01:36:16.760 --> 01:36:19.199 that's kind of the thing I'm going with. So entrepreneurs 2009 01:36:19.239 --> 01:36:22.479 who are stuck in these patterns. You know, just because 2010 01:36:22.479 --> 01:36:24.039 you make a certain amount of money doesn't mean you're 2011 01:36:24.079 --> 01:36:26.960 immune to not falling into patterns and things. So that's 2012 01:36:27.000 --> 01:36:30.680 kind of where I'm leaning towards right now, and everything 2013 01:36:30.720 --> 01:36:33.800 around that is centered, yeah, in this rebrand. So this 2014 01:36:33.880 --> 01:36:37.760 rebrand is pretty much the new evolution of what. 2015 01:36:37.600 --> 01:36:38.680 The minds I was. 2016 01:36:38.840 --> 01:36:41.039 And you know, going through that phase was actually kind 2017 01:36:41.039 --> 01:36:43.319 of difficult to shed all of that stuff off of me, 2018 01:36:43.800 --> 01:36:45.800 of the Mind's Eye, because you know that the mind's 2019 01:36:45.800 --> 01:36:50.079 Eye was my baby, you know, and breaking away from 2020 01:36:50.119 --> 01:36:52.640 that and shedding that part of myself like it just 2021 01:36:52.760 --> 01:36:55.880 like it felt like you know, an ego death, to 2022 01:36:55.920 --> 01:36:59.039 be honest, like it felt like it his own psychedelic experience. 2023 01:36:59.119 --> 01:37:02.319 Like I have this thing where I install thirty day 2024 01:37:02.399 --> 01:37:06.119 challenges with myself, and I have a goal for each 2025 01:37:06.199 --> 01:37:08.520 thirty day challenge, and for thirty days, I would regular 2026 01:37:08.560 --> 01:37:13.600 eleasly work on towards that goal. And my goal that 2027 01:37:13.720 --> 01:37:17.159 I had before was to you know, sell this program 2028 01:37:17.199 --> 01:37:20.279 that I'm doing to help people. And through that process, 2029 01:37:20.359 --> 01:37:22.920 I realized the one thing that I was holding on 2030 01:37:23.000 --> 01:37:26.159 to was letting me stay anchored in the same position, 2031 01:37:26.680 --> 01:37:29.720 and that was the Mind's Eye. It was sitting there 2032 01:37:29.720 --> 01:37:32.279 for months doing nothing, like we haven't posted anything in 2033 01:37:32.439 --> 01:37:33.840 seven months, stay. 2034 01:37:33.680 --> 01:37:35.039 On the Mind's Eye. 2035 01:37:35.359 --> 01:37:39.640 Yeah, And you know, me and my business partner and 2036 01:37:39.680 --> 01:37:43.359 also my friend Sean, we we. 2037 01:37:42.319 --> 01:37:43.560 Were doing other things. 2038 01:37:43.600 --> 01:37:45.680 On the other end, we had like a we're helping 2039 01:37:45.680 --> 01:37:47.920 people grow their social media because you know, that's how 2040 01:37:47.960 --> 01:37:51.199 we grew our show, and we were working with some guy. 2041 01:37:51.560 --> 01:37:57.159 Long story short, didn't work out. But after that, you know, 2042 01:37:57.479 --> 01:38:00.680 I still had this drive to like do something more 2043 01:38:01.039 --> 01:38:04.800 and we weren't seeing eye to eye, so I had 2044 01:38:04.840 --> 01:38:08.520 to like make a hard decision for myself and you know, 2045 01:38:08.760 --> 01:38:12.039 just pull everything back and rebrand everything. And it was 2046 01:38:12.079 --> 01:38:14.000 pretty painful. I'm not gonna lie and not saying I 2047 01:38:14.039 --> 01:38:15.880 was crying, but it sucked, you know what I mean 2048 01:38:15.920 --> 01:38:19.079 to be to pull that, h like pull that and 2049 01:38:19.159 --> 01:38:21.640 just rip it apart, because then you have to admit 2050 01:38:21.680 --> 01:38:25.079 to yourself at the same token that damn that dream 2051 01:38:25.199 --> 01:38:27.720 right there that I had for this show didn't pan out. 2052 01:38:27.760 --> 01:38:30.279 But that doesn't mean that it's not that not new 2053 01:38:30.319 --> 01:38:32.720 things can come out of this, oh for. 2054 01:38:32.640 --> 01:38:35.439 Sure, dude. Yeah, that's I don't even know what the 2055 01:38:35.479 --> 01:38:37.359 fuck I would do if we decided to stop doing 2056 01:38:37.399 --> 01:38:39.000 this show one day, Jacob, I don't even want to 2057 01:38:39.039 --> 01:38:40.600 think about that. I don't think that it's ever going 2058 01:38:40.600 --> 01:38:44.920 to happen. But could you you can, like, could you 2059 01:38:44.960 --> 01:38:48.039 imagine like what your fucking life would be like if 2060 01:38:48.079 --> 01:38:49.000 we didn't do this. 2061 01:38:50.399 --> 01:38:53.560 No, I'm gonna be straight up, But that's also because 2062 01:38:53.560 --> 01:38:56.159 we have. We have fallen in love with the process 2063 01:38:56.359 --> 01:38:58.640 and the work that's associated with this so much that like, 2064 01:38:59.039 --> 01:38:59.680 then that's the thing. 2065 01:38:59.680 --> 01:39:01.560 We've had this a million times. 2066 01:39:01.600 --> 01:39:03.880 And it's very true at least, you know, as far 2067 01:39:03.960 --> 01:39:06.560 as my level of research that I do, the types 2068 01:39:06.600 --> 01:39:09.479 of random things that I dive into, I have been 2069 01:39:09.560 --> 01:39:13.239 looking into conspiracies long before I ever met you, right 2070 01:39:13.359 --> 01:39:14.279 long before I even. 2071 01:39:14.239 --> 01:39:15.640 Knew what a podcast was. 2072 01:39:16.239 --> 01:39:19.119 So even if, for whatever reason, tonight this is our 2073 01:39:19.199 --> 01:39:22.159 last episode ever aired, there's no way that I can 2074 01:39:22.239 --> 01:39:25.560 stop at this point, Like I would be just kind 2075 01:39:25.600 --> 01:39:27.920 of doing this to myself and just looking into all 2076 01:39:27.960 --> 01:39:30.239 of this research and just like finding all this stuff 2077 01:39:30.279 --> 01:39:33.479 out and just like internalizing all of it, and I 2078 01:39:33.479 --> 01:39:36.000 would feel like I would be doing a disservice by 2079 01:39:36.079 --> 01:39:38.520 not sharing it. Like I I don't know how I 2080 01:39:38.560 --> 01:39:39.800 could continue, honestly. 2081 01:39:40.079 --> 01:39:42.520 Yeah, some people fall into k holes. We fall into 2082 01:39:42.560 --> 01:39:45.399 rabbit holes. Baby facts facts. 2083 01:39:47.000 --> 01:39:49.800 Good god, there's no way that you can recalcify the 2084 01:39:49.800 --> 01:39:51.319 third eye once it's been busted. 2085 01:39:51.319 --> 01:39:54.039 Oh yes, why dude, there's no way there's no going 2086 01:39:54.239 --> 01:39:56.000 at all. There's no going back at all. 2087 01:39:56.479 --> 01:39:58.520 And I do know what you mean as far as 2088 01:39:58.560 --> 01:40:01.119 like having a dream that didn't exactly pan out, you 2089 01:40:01.199 --> 01:40:01.600 know what I mean? 2090 01:40:01.680 --> 01:40:03.800 I that was me with the Marine Corps. 2091 01:40:03.800 --> 01:40:06.800 Honestly, my life goal was to join the Marine Corps 2092 01:40:06.840 --> 01:40:09.439 and I was I knew that I was gonna be 2093 01:40:09.520 --> 01:40:12.000 a career guy. I was gonna be in for twenty. 2094 01:40:11.760 --> 01:40:13.880 Maybe even thirty, who knows. 2095 01:40:14.359 --> 01:40:16.560 Yeah, about two years, and I was like, yeah, this 2096 01:40:16.640 --> 01:40:19.680 is not this is not the way for me. Cause 2097 01:40:19.800 --> 01:40:22.560 especially we were going into peace time and there was 2098 01:40:22.600 --> 01:40:25.479 no more money being associated with They cut funding, there 2099 01:40:25.520 --> 01:40:28.039 was no combat deployments going on. It's like, why would 2100 01:40:28.039 --> 01:40:31.880 I join a combat arms to not go kill people? 2101 01:40:31.920 --> 01:40:34.600 Like this is what combat is for. This is fucking retarded. 2102 01:40:34.680 --> 01:40:37.520 So yeah, it was time, you know. Plus it was 2103 01:40:37.600 --> 01:40:41.600 Obama don't ask don telguy Refield. They started talking about 2104 01:40:41.640 --> 01:40:45.119 letting women in the infantry and I'm just like, yeah, 2105 01:40:45.159 --> 01:40:47.119 I'm good here, it's time to go home. 2106 01:40:48.000 --> 01:40:50.520 Yeah, I can imagine how that would suck. I mean, 2107 01:40:51.239 --> 01:40:53.680 but even if you weren't an infantry, like, what would 2108 01:40:53.680 --> 01:40:56.479 you Is there any other branch of the Marines that 2109 01:40:56.760 --> 01:40:59.119 like tickled your your fancy a little bit that maybe 2110 01:40:59.159 --> 01:41:00.640 would have been fun to dive into. 2111 01:41:01.279 --> 01:41:04.479 I tried, uh, actually doing a lap move, a lateral 2112 01:41:04.560 --> 01:41:07.960 move to the intel side of things, right, and it 2113 01:41:08.039 --> 01:41:10.560 was gonna do uh, I was gonna do satellite imagery analysis. 2114 01:41:10.560 --> 01:41:13.319 So basically I'd have been working with satellites looking at 2115 01:41:13.359 --> 01:41:15.800 the pictures they take of certain compounds and things on 2116 01:41:15.800 --> 01:41:18.960 the ground, like, for instance, the raid that took out 2117 01:41:19.479 --> 01:41:22.880 Bin Laden right aka tim Osman, that's a CIA handle name. 2118 01:41:23.439 --> 01:41:23.800 Uh. 2119 01:41:23.880 --> 01:41:27.399 When these guys made that raid happen, they knew which 2120 01:41:27.479 --> 01:41:30.840 direction to turn every door knob in the house to 2121 01:41:31.000 --> 01:41:32.920 get in. Some turn the left, some turn to the right. 2122 01:41:32.960 --> 01:41:36.840 All these things. That intel was gathered through satellite imagery. 2123 01:41:37.159 --> 01:41:37.319 Right. 2124 01:41:37.359 --> 01:41:40.560 They had videos of watching guys how they turned door knobs. 2125 01:41:40.840 --> 01:41:42.600 So that because you need all that, you don't want 2126 01:41:42.640 --> 01:41:46.079 your team to get there and oh shit, this door 2127 01:41:46.119 --> 01:41:46.760 has a dead bolt. 2128 01:41:46.800 --> 01:41:47.640 Well we didn't know that. 2129 01:41:47.720 --> 01:41:49.600 No, you need them to know everything before the mission 2130 01:41:49.600 --> 01:41:51.560 goes off, right, So that was my goal. 2131 01:41:51.840 --> 01:41:52.399 But then they. 2132 01:41:55.359 --> 01:41:58.279 I mean satellites personally. I know some people get down 2133 01:41:58.279 --> 01:42:01.319 with satelliteons. But anyway, anyway, so I was trying to 2134 01:42:01.319 --> 01:42:05.319 do a lateral move. But because of the political climate 2135 01:42:05.399 --> 01:42:08.279 at the time, the military as a whole, but especially 2136 01:42:08.319 --> 01:42:10.000 the Marine Corps, we get the least amount of funding 2137 01:42:10.000 --> 01:42:11.680 as every other branch at all period. 2138 01:42:11.680 --> 01:42:13.000 We're the smallest branch. 2139 01:42:13.239 --> 01:42:16.880 So there was this big push to get people to 2140 01:42:17.159 --> 01:42:17.840 get out of. 2141 01:42:17.800 --> 01:42:20.720 The Marine Corps. I qualified for all the schools. 2142 01:42:21.119 --> 01:42:23.359 I was on the phone with the guy talking about 2143 01:42:23.359 --> 01:42:25.239 how many spaces they had in the class to do 2144 01:42:25.319 --> 01:42:27.000 this move all this, I give my. 2145 01:42:26.960 --> 01:42:28.439 Paperwork to the career planner. 2146 01:42:28.680 --> 01:42:31.359 They fucked around with it for six months until not 2147 01:42:31.439 --> 01:42:34.439 only was that class that school completely filled out, but 2148 01:42:34.600 --> 01:42:37.399 every class for every school for the entire Marine Corps 2149 01:42:37.520 --> 01:42:39.920 was full until one year later. So I could have 2150 01:42:39.920 --> 01:42:42.479 extended my contract for a year and then tried again, 2151 01:42:42.800 --> 01:42:44.199 or I could get out. And I'm just like, well, 2152 01:42:44.199 --> 01:42:46.239 it sounds like you just made my decision for me, 2153 01:42:46.439 --> 01:42:48.920 Like I'm not waiting a year to fuck around with 2154 01:42:48.920 --> 01:42:51.039 you people again for you to do this to me 2155 01:42:51.159 --> 01:42:52.800 again and give me the run around, Like I'm just done. 2156 01:42:52.840 --> 01:42:55.319 Did you ever think about, like maybe taking a shift 2157 01:42:55.359 --> 01:42:56.399 over to the. 2158 01:42:56.439 --> 01:43:01.760 Army briefly And the only reason why is because they 2159 01:43:01.760 --> 01:43:04.199 get way more funding and you get promoted way faster. 2160 01:43:04.840 --> 01:43:08.079 But I am personally not a fan of how they 2161 01:43:08.239 --> 01:43:10.520 do and I don't mean to shit on nobody. For 2162 01:43:10.600 --> 01:43:12.039 the record, I know a lot of our good cult 2163 01:43:12.039 --> 01:43:14.920 members are Army veterans, no shaving Marines. 2164 01:43:15.399 --> 01:43:17.239 Marines are always gonna talk shit on the Army. That's 2165 01:43:17.279 --> 01:43:20.479 just the brotherhood facts facts. I love my eleven bravos. 2166 01:43:20.520 --> 01:43:23.000 Y'all are just like me. But y'all will eat crayons. 2167 01:43:23.119 --> 01:43:24.680 Y'all are not a part of this type of a cult, 2168 01:43:24.720 --> 01:43:29.119 but whatever, whatever. But I am personally not a fan 2169 01:43:29.239 --> 01:43:31.880 of their version of war fighting tactics. 2170 01:43:32.319 --> 01:43:32.880 That's just me. 2171 01:43:33.000 --> 01:43:36.119 I do love how they have more logistics, like a motherfucker, 2172 01:43:36.720 --> 01:43:40.199 but I don't know. The Marines took their war fighting 2173 01:43:40.239 --> 01:43:42.159 tactics straight out of the Nazi handbook. 2174 01:43:42.479 --> 01:43:43.920 The Army didn't. 2175 01:43:44.960 --> 01:43:46.560 And I don't mean Nazis. As far as I kill 2176 01:43:46.600 --> 01:43:48.319 the Jews, I mean like as far as the blitz 2177 01:43:48.319 --> 01:43:54.000 creak tactics go, fire maneuver, combined arms, ranges, things like this. 2178 01:43:54.000 --> 01:43:57.000 This is stuff that we adopted because we saw how 2179 01:43:57.039 --> 01:43:59.840 effective it worked. The Army does things a different way, 2180 01:43:59.880 --> 01:44:02.359 and I didn't want to have to relearn It's like 2181 01:44:02.439 --> 01:44:05.000 reinventing the wheel, and at that point it just it 2182 01:44:05.079 --> 01:44:06.680 wasn't worth it. Now, I did get out and think 2183 01:44:06.680 --> 01:44:10.319 about becoming a cop, because being an infantry marine, there's 2184 01:44:10.359 --> 01:44:14.239 not many crossover trainings that can go into the civilian 2185 01:44:14.279 --> 01:44:16.560 life that would you work out for you. 2186 01:44:17.039 --> 01:44:18.920 But I never looked at what cops make. 2187 01:44:19.479 --> 01:44:21.479 And then whenever I found out that these guys are 2188 01:44:21.479 --> 01:44:25.039 getting shot at for random routine traffic stops and shit 2189 01:44:25.119 --> 01:44:26.600 like that, it was like, oh, no, you're doing it 2190 01:44:26.640 --> 01:44:30.600 for thirty two thousand dollars a year. Yeah, I get fucked. 2191 01:44:30.680 --> 01:44:33.479 I'm sorry, my bad. I'm gonna go be a construction 2192 01:44:33.880 --> 01:44:36.079 piece of shit. That's me all day. And so I 2193 01:44:36.079 --> 01:44:37.640 did that and started going to college and all that 2194 01:44:37.640 --> 01:44:39.880 other stuff. But beside the point, beside the point, but 2195 01:44:40.640 --> 01:44:43.600 to your point, Josh, like you said, even the stuff 2196 01:44:43.600 --> 01:44:47.159 that didn't work out, even the dream that never actually 2197 01:44:47.399 --> 01:44:51.159 was the dream, has led to so many other avenues 2198 01:44:51.199 --> 01:44:52.800 being opened to us. 2199 01:44:52.960 --> 01:44:55.920 Myself, I could speak on behalf of being in the 2200 01:44:55.960 --> 01:44:56.560 Marine Corps. 2201 01:44:56.600 --> 01:44:58.560 Although it wasn't what I thought it was going to be, 2202 01:44:59.039 --> 01:45:01.680 it allowed me to the GI Bill, which allowed me 2203 01:45:01.800 --> 01:45:04.399 to get a certain job, which allowed me the freedom 2204 01:45:04.439 --> 01:45:08.279 and opportunity to start a podcast, Like, none of this 2205 01:45:08.319 --> 01:45:11.399 could have happened unless I was at square one once 2206 01:45:11.479 --> 01:45:14.600 upon a time and stepped each way to step five, 2207 01:45:14.680 --> 01:45:18.239 two steps in to step twenty. This didn't happen overnight. 2208 01:45:18.399 --> 01:45:20.600 And it's only from the perspective of looking back at 2209 01:45:20.640 --> 01:45:24.079 it now that I can appreciate why I needed to 2210 01:45:24.159 --> 01:45:25.159 experience these. 2211 01:45:24.960 --> 01:45:27.920 Things right, And it's a lot of that goes into it. 2212 01:45:27.960 --> 01:45:31.039 Like, uh, while I was in college, I was working 2213 01:45:31.479 --> 01:45:35.520 sixty hour weeks and sixteen hours a week of in 2214 01:45:35.760 --> 01:45:37.119 class school. 2215 01:45:36.800 --> 01:45:38.760 Time right now. 2216 01:45:39.039 --> 01:45:42.000 That required a level of lack of sleep, a way 2217 01:45:42.039 --> 01:45:44.800 too unhealthy addiction to caffeine, which like, hey, we're still there, brother, 2218 01:45:44.840 --> 01:45:47.119 you olam lamb, but without the point. It taught me 2219 01:45:47.239 --> 01:45:49.960 a level of grit and determination that I wouldn't have 2220 01:45:50.119 --> 01:45:54.199 gained otherwise. Because perspective is something that you can hear 2221 01:45:54.279 --> 01:45:57.680 about all day long. Until you attain it for yourself, 2222 01:45:57.760 --> 01:45:59.199 you'll never truly get it. 2223 01:46:00.760 --> 01:46:04.239 Yeah, you know when I was eighteen. I started my 2224 01:46:04.399 --> 01:46:07.399 entrepreneur journey. When I was eighteen, in my dorm room, 2225 01:46:08.319 --> 01:46:10.520 I had so many papers on my wall you would 2226 01:46:10.520 --> 01:46:13.640 think I was solving like who like a grand conspiracy, 2227 01:46:14.159 --> 01:46:17.000 And I was just learning all these facets of business 2228 01:46:17.079 --> 01:46:19.399 and I was so fascinated with it because I was like, 2229 01:46:19.439 --> 01:46:22.840 oh wow, like this can lead me to the freedom 2230 01:46:22.880 --> 01:46:24.039 that I want. Because at the end of the day, 2231 01:46:24.039 --> 01:46:26.079 I think that's what everyone wants. It's just like some 2232 01:46:26.119 --> 01:46:30.000 type of freedom, whether that's complete freedom or of freedom 2233 01:46:30.000 --> 01:46:33.880 that allows you to just go places and experience other areas, 2234 01:46:34.399 --> 01:46:36.039 whatever that looks like for you. But for me, I 2235 01:46:36.079 --> 01:46:38.199 wanted to be able to like travel and do all 2236 01:46:38.199 --> 01:46:43.560 these things. And after college COVID hits, I stuck inside 2237 01:46:43.600 --> 01:46:47.399 the my house for like a year and that's when 2238 01:46:47.439 --> 01:46:51.119 the idea of the podcast started to brew inside and 2239 01:46:51.560 --> 01:46:55.359 I brung all the expertise from my you know, learning 2240 01:46:55.359 --> 01:46:57.680 how to market and stuff into the podcast. And that's 2241 01:46:57.680 --> 01:46:59.760 how I was able to generate over one hundred million 2242 01:46:59.840 --> 01:47:00.920 view in two years. 2243 01:47:01.319 --> 01:47:03.359 But you wouldn't have known that unless you had that 2244 01:47:03.439 --> 01:47:04.880 experience on the back exactly. 2245 01:47:05.159 --> 01:47:06.159 And that's the other thing, Doude. 2246 01:47:06.159 --> 01:47:10.279 The failures make the victories worth it because you won't 2247 01:47:10.279 --> 01:47:13.239 appreciate the highs unless you've experienced the lows. 2248 01:47:13.319 --> 01:47:15.279 That's just the way life goes, man. 2249 01:47:15.399 --> 01:47:15.760 Mm hmm. 2250 01:47:16.039 --> 01:47:18.159 And you know what's interesting is that now that I'm 2251 01:47:18.159 --> 01:47:20.960 going through this new phase, I'm like, oh, wow, all 2252 01:47:21.000 --> 01:47:22.960 the stuff that I brung from the mind's eye, even 2253 01:47:23.000 --> 01:47:24.840 though like I wanted the mind's eye to be the 2254 01:47:24.960 --> 01:47:28.680 end all be all, what I'm doing now is actually 2255 01:47:28.760 --> 01:47:32.279 more aligned with my purpose and that's what I actually 2256 01:47:32.319 --> 01:47:35.199 want to do and what I actually enjoyed doing. So 2257 01:47:35.399 --> 01:47:38.720 all the marketing, all the social proof that I build 2258 01:47:38.760 --> 01:47:41.640 over the years is now going to be a launch pad. 2259 01:47:41.399 --> 01:47:42.600 To my next level. 2260 01:47:43.159 --> 01:47:46.640 So while other people may look at it as like, oh, 2261 01:47:46.680 --> 01:47:48.560 you ended this and this you know that means it 2262 01:47:48.600 --> 01:47:50.600 didn't work out, well, I don't see it that way 2263 01:47:50.680 --> 01:47:52.600 because I've did what it had to do with the 2264 01:47:52.640 --> 01:47:54.520 Mind's Eye, and now it's going to help me get to. 2265 01:47:54.479 --> 01:47:55.199 The next level. 2266 01:47:55.840 --> 01:47:58.479 And I'm starting in a place where not a lot 2267 01:47:58.479 --> 01:47:59.960 of people can actually start from. 2268 01:48:00.119 --> 01:48:02.520 So that is like how I look at it. 2269 01:48:02.560 --> 01:48:04.279 And now, you know, you have to go through those 2270 01:48:04.359 --> 01:48:07.520 things in order to build the skills and like work 2271 01:48:07.640 --> 01:48:09.680 necessary to achieve greatness. 2272 01:48:10.079 --> 01:48:12.840 Dude, I feel like it's almost like a like a 2273 01:48:12.880 --> 01:48:15.239 fate or a destiny kind of thing, you know, just 2274 01:48:15.279 --> 01:48:17.319 thinking about like all of our different paths here, not 2275 01:48:17.319 --> 01:48:19.880 to get weird or whatever, but just think about like 2276 01:48:19.920 --> 01:48:22.520 all our different paths that have led us to whatever 2277 01:48:22.560 --> 01:48:25.319 point we are in our lives. Like think about you, Jacob, 2278 01:48:25.359 --> 01:48:28.000 Like the path that you took to get to the 2279 01:48:28.079 --> 01:48:32.119 same exact place where we're both at in this very 2280 01:48:32.159 --> 01:48:35.319 moment is entirely different than the path that I took 2281 01:48:35.359 --> 01:48:38.119 to get to this place. But it's still ended up here. 2282 01:48:38.239 --> 01:48:40.880 It's almost like, you know, don't even fucking sweat the 2283 01:48:40.960 --> 01:48:43.720 small shit because if it's if it's destined for you, 2284 01:48:43.800 --> 01:48:46.239 as long as you can, you know, remain consistent and 2285 01:48:46.319 --> 01:48:49.439 keep an open mind and stay positive and you know that, 2286 01:48:49.600 --> 01:48:53.239 like you're destined for something, then it'll eventually like the 2287 01:48:53.600 --> 01:48:57.039 paths will converge into one lane almost And you know, 2288 01:48:57.119 --> 01:49:00.600 because dude, I mean I literally you could damn near 2289 01:49:00.640 --> 01:49:02.800 say I took a fucking like a like a vow 2290 01:49:02.880 --> 01:49:06.319 of poverty to get to this point, honestly, Like, dude, 2291 01:49:06.319 --> 01:49:09.199 I had all the opportunities to go work offshore. I 2292 01:49:09.239 --> 01:49:11.359 had all the opportunities to go work uh, you know, 2293 01:49:11.880 --> 01:49:15.520 real estate or or in the plant or anything like that. 2294 01:49:15.560 --> 01:49:17.359 But I knew that that was going to take away 2295 01:49:17.399 --> 01:49:19.680 from the time that I was that I needed to 2296 01:49:19.760 --> 01:49:22.159 give this this show, you know, like it was a 2297 01:49:22.239 --> 01:49:25.239 dream of mine. And and so I, dude, I literally 2298 01:49:25.319 --> 01:49:29.319 I worked fucking uber eats like the entire first man. 2299 01:49:29.600 --> 01:49:32.039 I worked over each for the entire first three years 2300 01:49:32.079 --> 01:49:34.479 of trying to build this up, because I was like, well, look, 2301 01:49:34.520 --> 01:49:37.079 I can I can make my own schedule. On the 2302 01:49:37.159 --> 01:49:39.399 days that I'm that I'm not shooting, I can still 2303 01:49:39.439 --> 01:49:41.119 I can work all day, you know, you make your 2304 01:49:41.119 --> 01:49:44.000 own schedule that way. And and then even on the 2305 01:49:44.079 --> 01:49:45.920 days that I would work all day, I would work 2306 01:49:45.960 --> 01:49:49.039 fucking twelve hours straight up, from eight to eight, eight 2307 01:49:49.079 --> 01:49:50.760 in the morning till eight to night, and then at 2308 01:49:50.800 --> 01:49:53.199 nine o'clock we're shooting a show. And after the show, 2309 01:49:53.239 --> 01:49:55.439 after an hour or two, all right, I'm staying up 2310 01:49:55.439 --> 01:49:57.760 and I'm editing it. I'm gonna post it. And like 2311 01:49:57.880 --> 01:50:01.560 it's a full on fucking commitment. So, like your like 2312 01:50:01.760 --> 01:50:03.600 dreams of whatever you want to do, you have to 2313 01:50:03.640 --> 01:50:05.079 find a way to be able to fit it in 2314 01:50:05.119 --> 01:50:07.880 your life. And also you need to understand, like what 2315 01:50:08.039 --> 01:50:10.239 kind of lifestyle are you willing to live in order 2316 01:50:10.279 --> 01:50:12.039 to get to that place that you hope to get to? 2317 01:50:12.560 --> 01:50:14.760 You know, what are you willing to sacrifice to make 2318 01:50:14.840 --> 01:50:17.520 the dream of reality? Absolutely, because at the end of 2319 01:50:17.560 --> 01:50:20.840 the day, it is sacrifice, like I sacrificed a career. 2320 01:50:21.399 --> 01:50:23.800 Like realistically, where I was, I could have put in 2321 01:50:23.840 --> 01:50:28.680 my time and retired comfortably when I turned sixty five 2322 01:50:28.760 --> 01:50:30.439 or whatever the new retirement. 2323 01:50:30.000 --> 01:50:30.720 Age is gonna be. 2324 01:50:31.399 --> 01:50:34.680 But I knew that that is not where I was 2325 01:50:34.720 --> 01:50:37.760 supposed to be, Like even whenever I got that career, 2326 01:50:37.760 --> 01:50:39.479 and I knew that, yeah, I finally got locked in 2327 01:50:39.520 --> 01:50:41.279 on this job and all of this, and that job 2328 01:50:41.359 --> 01:50:43.359 is still there. If I called my former boss right 2329 01:50:43.359 --> 01:50:45.199 now until I was already come back to work, I 2330 01:50:45.199 --> 01:50:47.479 would have a shift waiting on me come Monday, no 2331 01:50:47.640 --> 01:50:49.520 questions asked, because I left on good terms. 2332 01:50:50.000 --> 01:50:52.960 But that was never my goal. 2333 01:50:53.119 --> 01:50:54.840 Right and the entire time I was working there, it's 2334 01:50:54.840 --> 01:50:57.640 not like I was miserable by any means. I didn't 2335 01:50:57.960 --> 01:51:00.760 dislike my job, you know, good and bad days, just 2336 01:51:00.760 --> 01:51:03.359 like everybody else. But I knew that that wasn't where 2337 01:51:03.399 --> 01:51:04.439 I was supposed to be. 2338 01:51:05.399 --> 01:51:06.359 And I you know what I mean. 2339 01:51:06.399 --> 01:51:08.479 And at a certain point, it's like, when when is 2340 01:51:08.479 --> 01:51:10.680 it time to make that leap? When is the time 2341 01:51:10.720 --> 01:51:13.520 to finally take the plunge and decide, you know what, 2342 01:51:13.680 --> 01:51:16.880 I trust in myself and I trust in this show, 2343 01:51:17.279 --> 01:51:19.319 or I trust in us as a unit, or whatever 2344 01:51:19.319 --> 01:51:21.800 the case is. When am I willing to decide that 2345 01:51:21.960 --> 01:51:24.880 now is the time to just take the jump. And 2346 01:51:24.920 --> 01:51:27.920 I gotta tell you, man, one of the best decisions 2347 01:51:27.920 --> 01:51:28.800 I've ever made my life. 2348 01:51:29.079 --> 01:51:32.800 Honestly, Oh dude, I love doing this shit. And I 2349 01:51:33.079 --> 01:51:33.479 say with you. 2350 01:51:33.520 --> 01:51:35.680 With Uber Eats, you knew that you were never destined 2351 01:51:35.680 --> 01:51:38.000 to be a delivery driver. It was a means to 2352 01:51:38.039 --> 01:51:40.560 an ends, and you didn't dislike it, but you also 2353 01:51:40.600 --> 01:51:42.600 didn't love it, but you also. 2354 01:51:42.439 --> 01:51:44.439 Knew that that was not where your destiny lied. 2355 01:51:44.760 --> 01:51:47.039 No, dude, And it was like multiple reasons why I 2356 01:51:47.079 --> 01:51:48.920 chose to do that. Because I knew that I could 2357 01:51:48.960 --> 01:51:52.760 listen to other conspiracy shows and listen to other ideas 2358 01:51:52.800 --> 01:51:54.960 that would help, you know, me bring some kind of 2359 01:51:54.960 --> 01:51:57.680 information to the show or or whatever. Like I was 2360 01:51:57.720 --> 01:52:00.159 fully immersed even whenever I was working Uber Eats, I 2361 01:52:00.199 --> 01:52:03.079 was fully immersed in the conspiracy world. I was flooding 2362 01:52:03.119 --> 01:52:06.159 myself in it, dude, Like I was obsessed with it 2363 01:52:06.239 --> 01:52:09.159 because I would listen to all these conspiracy podcasts and 2364 01:52:09.279 --> 01:52:12.800 nothing against anybody else, but like in your own mind, 2365 01:52:13.039 --> 01:52:15.319 especially like if you think highly of yourself, which is 2366 01:52:15.399 --> 01:52:18.439 very I mean, not conceited wise, but like if you 2367 01:52:18.560 --> 01:52:21.760 believe that, like you can do something, you know, you'll 2368 01:52:21.840 --> 01:52:24.000 listen to other conspiracy shows and be like, you know what, 2369 01:52:24.079 --> 01:52:26.079 I think I can fucking do that, and I think 2370 01:52:26.079 --> 01:52:27.720 that I can actually do it a little bit better 2371 01:52:27.720 --> 01:52:30.960 than everybody else, you know, Like you start like hyping 2372 01:52:31.000 --> 01:52:33.319 yourself up a little bit, and then after a while, 2373 01:52:33.760 --> 01:52:35.960 like you're not even faking it till you make it. 2374 01:52:35.960 --> 01:52:38.640 You fucking made it. Now you're doing it now. You 2375 01:52:38.640 --> 01:52:41.079 you don't even have to fool yourself into believing this 2376 01:52:41.119 --> 01:52:43.880 shit anymore because you know that this is what you are. 2377 01:52:44.279 --> 01:52:48.239 I'm no longer fucking you know, Jonathan the Uber each Driver. 2378 01:52:48.600 --> 01:52:52.800 I'm Jonathan Conspiracy, theorist, cult of Conspiracy, my fucking third 2379 01:52:52.800 --> 01:52:56.079 eyes all the way open, and everybody knows it. Everybody 2380 01:52:56.079 --> 01:52:58.560 that used to think that I was crazy thinking that 2381 01:52:58.640 --> 01:53:01.680 I can make something. You're not going to go work 2382 01:53:01.680 --> 01:53:03.319 in the plant. You're not going to go and try 2383 01:53:03.359 --> 01:53:06.560 and get a career. No, Like I knew that this 2384 01:53:06.760 --> 01:53:07.399 was possible. 2385 01:53:08.760 --> 01:53:11.000 I was crazy when I left the career to do this, 2386 01:53:11.439 --> 01:53:13.439 And they all they still to this day, like as 2387 01:53:13.439 --> 01:53:15.399 soon as I tell them like how well things are going, 2388 01:53:15.439 --> 01:53:17.680 They're like, bra I got tell I thought you were crazy, 2389 01:53:17.720 --> 01:53:20.119 and it's like, oh, I know, I fully know you 2390 01:53:20.199 --> 01:53:21.720 let it be known to me very clearly. 2391 01:53:21.800 --> 01:53:23.600 I was there. I remember the conversation. 2392 01:53:23.680 --> 01:53:27.039 But it's like you get through the whole imposter syndrome 2393 01:53:27.159 --> 01:53:29.920 because that happens to everybody you know to a certain level, 2394 01:53:30.279 --> 01:53:32.760 and then you realize like, no, I'm not acting. This 2395 01:53:32.920 --> 01:53:35.359 is literally what it is. This is what I do, 2396 01:53:35.439 --> 01:53:37.640 this is who I am, And it rolls like that. 2397 01:53:37.800 --> 01:53:38.000 Man. 2398 01:53:38.720 --> 01:53:42.079 You know, there's a common misconception that people think that 2399 01:53:42.159 --> 01:53:44.520 once they achieved their goals, they would then become that 2400 01:53:44.600 --> 01:53:47.640 person who achieved the goals. But it's actually the opposite. 2401 01:53:47.680 --> 01:53:50.159 You have to actually be the person that achieved the 2402 01:53:50.159 --> 01:53:53.560 goal already, because how would you achieve the goal if 2403 01:53:53.560 --> 01:53:55.720 you're not acting like you're achieving the goal. It's kind 2404 01:53:55.760 --> 01:53:58.119 of is it makes no sense. You have to put 2405 01:53:58.159 --> 01:53:59.840 in the work. You have to adapt the house yet 2406 01:53:59.880 --> 01:54:03.279 the at the skills in order to actually build that out. 2407 01:54:03.319 --> 01:54:07.560 First started my podcast, I always kept seeing these videos 2408 01:54:07.560 --> 01:54:09.359 because you know how YouTube is, it pretty much knows 2409 01:54:09.359 --> 01:54:11.800 everything you're doing. It's giving you all these things that, oh, 2410 01:54:11.880 --> 01:54:14.079 you must start small and build the little steps there, 2411 01:54:14.119 --> 01:54:15.479 and I was like, why can't I just act like 2412 01:54:15.520 --> 01:54:18.079 the guy who's already doing all this stuff at this level. 2413 01:54:18.479 --> 01:54:21.600 So actually the way I do things is I don't 2414 01:54:21.600 --> 01:54:25.800 take small steps. I actually immersed myself fully as the 2415 01:54:25.840 --> 01:54:28.760 person who's actually doing it at that level. And that's 2416 01:54:28.800 --> 01:54:31.239 the only reason why the minds I got to where 2417 01:54:31.279 --> 01:54:34.840 it was was because I was crazy enough to think 2418 01:54:34.880 --> 01:54:36.760 that I can do what that guy is doing who's 2419 01:54:36.760 --> 01:54:38.239 getting millions of views. 2420 01:54:38.319 --> 01:54:40.199 In my living room with two my friends. 2421 01:54:40.760 --> 01:54:41.560 Fuck yeah, man. 2422 01:54:41.680 --> 01:54:43.279 And it's like, once you set a goal and you 2423 01:54:43.319 --> 01:54:46.479 achieve it, you have to keep setting goals, like you 2424 01:54:46.520 --> 01:54:50.319 can't get complacent even within success, because that's another type 2425 01:54:50.359 --> 01:54:53.720 of hurdle that a lot of successful people find themselves in. 2426 01:54:53.800 --> 01:54:56.520 Once you achieve dot dot dot whatever that might be 2427 01:54:56.640 --> 01:54:59.159 for you, you've got to keep pushing. And me and Jonathan 2428 01:54:59.239 --> 01:55:00.800 talked about this before or if I was to win 2429 01:55:00.840 --> 01:55:03.680 the lottery right now and somehow I got handed a 2430 01:55:03.720 --> 01:55:06.880 million dollars cash. Yo, First things first, I'm trying to 2431 01:55:06.880 --> 01:55:08.840 find a way to turn that to ten million. And 2432 01:55:08.880 --> 01:55:10.800 as soon as I forget that, I'm trying to turn 2433 01:55:10.800 --> 01:55:12.239 that to one hundred million. And it's not out of 2434 01:55:12.239 --> 01:55:15.159 a spirit of greed. It's because I'm not going to 2435 01:55:15.239 --> 01:55:19.239 try to stop achieving. Like I don't understand that concept 2436 01:55:19.359 --> 01:55:23.439 right now. You take breaks, you can rest a little 2437 01:55:23.479 --> 01:55:25.319 bit from time to time, whenever you get to a 2438 01:55:25.359 --> 01:55:28.680 place where you can take that rest. But as Jonathan 2439 01:55:28.680 --> 01:55:30.880 and I have said a million times, bro, we're in 2440 01:55:30.920 --> 01:55:33.640 the fourth quarter right now. We got twenty seconds left 2441 01:55:33.680 --> 01:55:35.079 on the clock and we can still win this bitch, 2442 01:55:35.079 --> 01:55:36.239 and I ain't heard a whistle yet. 2443 01:55:36.640 --> 01:55:37.600 That's just the way it is. 2444 01:55:37.840 --> 01:55:39.840 Yeah, it's almost like not to take it to like 2445 01:55:39.880 --> 01:55:42.479 a religious place. But you know, the end times are 2446 01:55:42.479 --> 01:55:45.560 always nigh, you know what I'm saying, Like, fucking we're 2447 01:55:45.560 --> 01:55:47.680 in the end time. So it could be ten years 2448 01:55:47.680 --> 01:55:49.039 from now, it could be fifty years from now, it 2449 01:55:49.039 --> 01:55:51.159 could be fucking five seconds from right now. You never know, 2450 01:55:51.439 --> 01:55:52.960 So you just got to keep on going. And also 2451 01:55:53.039 --> 01:55:55.479 not to take it to another religious place or spiritual 2452 01:55:55.520 --> 01:55:57.359 place or whatever. But it's kind of like what they 2453 01:55:57.399 --> 01:56:00.439 say about prayer. For example, know a lot of people 2454 01:56:00.479 --> 01:56:04.239 whenever they pray, it's almost like wishing, And that's actually 2455 01:56:04.279 --> 01:56:06.119 not the way you go about it like I can't 2456 01:56:06.119 --> 01:56:08.439 remember the verse in the Bible whenever they're talking about it. 2457 01:56:08.479 --> 01:56:11.560 But essentially, you want to envision it as if it's 2458 01:56:11.600 --> 01:56:14.800 already happened whenever you're praying, because it's almost like it 2459 01:56:14.840 --> 01:56:17.840 has to match your frequency that God or the universe 2460 01:56:17.920 --> 01:56:21.039 or whatever is a mirror of what you already are, 2461 01:56:21.640 --> 01:56:24.600 and that you have to believe that like all the 2462 01:56:24.640 --> 01:56:27.560 way right. And so if you're sitting there wishing, well 2463 01:56:27.560 --> 01:56:30.640 what your what you're subconscious is even saying, it's like, 2464 01:56:31.000 --> 01:56:33.000 well you're wishing it, that means you don't have it. 2465 01:56:33.079 --> 01:56:34.600 And if you don't have it, then you're never going 2466 01:56:34.680 --> 01:56:36.640 to have it because this is the frequency that you're 2467 01:56:36.680 --> 01:56:39.560 giving off. Whereas if you can literally vision it and 2468 01:56:39.640 --> 01:56:42.319 almost sit in that like just imagine it. That that's 2469 01:56:42.319 --> 01:56:45.239 why the imagination is so powerful, dude, Like you need 2470 01:56:45.319 --> 01:56:48.479 that in order to be able to as you said earlier, 2471 01:56:48.520 --> 01:56:50.239 nobody likes to use the word manifest but you know 2472 01:56:50.279 --> 01:56:52.159 what I'm you know what I'm trying to say, Like 2473 01:56:52.479 --> 01:56:55.239 you you know, like it has to crystallize in your 2474 01:56:55.239 --> 01:56:57.680 mind before it crystallizes in reality. 2475 01:56:58.000 --> 01:57:00.800 With percent with prayer especially dude, And it depends on 2476 01:57:00.800 --> 01:57:04.560 what you're praying for, obviously, but I have always done that. 2477 01:57:04.720 --> 01:57:08.000 Like you pray from a spirit of gratitude, basically thanking 2478 01:57:08.039 --> 01:57:11.199 God in advance for this thing that you're praying for. 2479 01:57:11.600 --> 01:57:15.279 You're praying out of a spirit of faith, right, and 2480 01:57:15.319 --> 01:57:17.840 you believe that God is faithful. Now you do always 2481 01:57:17.840 --> 01:57:20.960 need to keep in mind that God's plan supersedes yours. 2482 01:57:21.000 --> 01:57:24.079 And so it's like, if you will it, Father, I'm 2483 01:57:24.119 --> 01:57:26.560 thanking you for this and this and this to happen 2484 01:57:26.600 --> 01:57:28.159 in my life and things like that. So like you 2485 01:57:28.159 --> 01:57:31.520 always got to keep that reverence and respect, right. But yeah, 2486 01:57:31.720 --> 01:57:34.520 you shouldn't be praying to God like he's some fucking 2487 01:57:34.600 --> 01:57:36.920 genie who's gonna grant you a wish if you pray 2488 01:57:36.960 --> 01:57:37.439 hard enough. 2489 01:57:37.439 --> 01:57:39.600 That is not how this fucking goes man at all. 2490 01:57:39.960 --> 01:57:42.960 Nope, not at all, dude, got put it in the pain. 2491 01:57:43.000 --> 01:57:45.880 You gotta experience pain, you know. People like to avoid pain, 2492 01:57:46.520 --> 01:57:49.039 you know, but the pain is what gets you there. 2493 01:57:49.520 --> 01:57:50.640 No pain is a teacher. 2494 01:57:51.000 --> 01:57:54.039 Like we said, the lows teach you more than the highs. 2495 01:57:54.039 --> 01:57:56.319 I can promise you that the guy who worked his 2496 01:57:56.439 --> 01:57:59.600 ass off to achieve a million dollars learned so much 2497 01:57:59.680 --> 01:58:02.000 more than the dude that hit the right scratch off 2498 01:58:02.000 --> 01:58:03.159 in one million dollars. 2499 01:58:03.479 --> 01:58:04.880 One of them has way more. 2500 01:58:04.680 --> 01:58:07.479 Intelligence than the other when it comes to certain aspects 2501 01:58:07.520 --> 01:58:08.199 of earning money. 2502 01:58:08.239 --> 01:58:11.279 You see what I mean, dude, And even like I 2503 01:58:11.319 --> 01:58:14.319 always referenced this book, dude, but it's Napoleon Hill. He 2504 01:58:14.720 --> 01:58:17.359 wrote Think and Grow Rich. He basically just sallowed around 2505 01:58:17.399 --> 01:58:21.039 Andrew Carnegie and tried to understand his mind. Bro, And 2506 01:58:21.119 --> 01:58:23.319 like it is a trip actually listening, Like, well, I 2507 01:58:23.439 --> 01:58:26.000 listened to the book because it's just easier sometimes, especially 2508 01:58:26.000 --> 01:58:28.159 you go on road trips. It's nice rich. 2509 01:58:28.079 --> 01:58:28.760 Dad, poor dad. 2510 01:58:28.800 --> 01:58:31.880 That's another one, that dichotomy, dude. 2511 01:58:32.119 --> 01:58:36.479 Yeah, yeah, So but anyway, what's his name from Think 2512 01:58:36.479 --> 01:58:39.119 and Grow Rich? Napoleon Hill. So Napoleon Hill, there was 2513 01:58:39.159 --> 01:58:43.000 a he he's basically, you know, describing what's going on 2514 01:58:43.119 --> 01:58:46.239 through Carnegie's mind the entire time, and you know just 2515 01:58:46.279 --> 01:58:48.960 about how calculated he is about everything, and how he's 2516 01:58:49.000 --> 01:58:52.279 obsessing about everything, and about how he's literally like his 2517 01:58:52.359 --> 01:58:54.479 goals are always on his mind. It doesn't matter he's 2518 01:58:54.479 --> 01:58:56.720 taking a shit, he's taking a shower, he's fucking his wife, 2519 01:58:56.880 --> 01:58:59.800 like doesn't matter. His goals are always on his mind. 2520 01:58:59.840 --> 01:59:02.319 Like that's how obsessed that he was. And then he 2521 01:59:02.359 --> 01:59:04.239 gets to a part in the last part of the book, 2522 01:59:04.239 --> 01:59:07.000 bro And this is what's wild because this part wasn't 2523 01:59:07.079 --> 01:59:10.000 interjected into the book until after he died because he 2524 01:59:10.039 --> 01:59:12.640 thought that it was too early, Like the people wouldn't 2525 01:59:12.840 --> 01:59:14.399 they would see it as if he was some kind 2526 01:59:14.399 --> 01:59:16.319 of whack job or a kook or something like that. 2527 01:59:16.439 --> 01:59:18.479 But one part of the book is it's a whole 2528 01:59:18.560 --> 01:59:21.039 chapter I believe, and it's on faith. And it's not 2529 01:59:21.079 --> 01:59:23.399 even necessarily like a religious faith, but it's like a 2530 01:59:23.560 --> 01:59:26.720 knowing that whatever you're aiming to do is going to happen, 2531 01:59:26.800 --> 01:59:29.319 Like it's a it's like an undying you know that 2532 01:59:29.399 --> 01:59:32.359 it's your destiny kind of thing. And uh, that was 2533 01:59:32.439 --> 01:59:34.720 that was pretty fucking cool, you know. So I think 2534 01:59:34.720 --> 01:59:37.439 that like if you if you believe that you're destined 2535 01:59:37.479 --> 01:59:39.720 for some kind of greatness or you're destined for this, 2536 01:59:39.920 --> 01:59:42.800 or you're destined for that, like you can't even question it, 2537 01:59:42.840 --> 01:59:46.279 Like you almost have to in like interject a little 2538 01:59:46.279 --> 01:59:49.840 bit of faith in the cosmos, in God or whatever, right, 2539 01:59:49.960 --> 01:59:52.319 Like you have to know that you're here for a 2540 01:59:52.359 --> 01:59:55.640 reason and that's the reason. Like it's like an obsessive 2541 01:59:55.720 --> 01:59:58.159 kind of thing. So dude, it's the mind is a 2542 01:59:58.199 --> 02:00:00.520 motherfucker and you got to be able to take you know, 2543 02:00:00.560 --> 02:00:03.720 it's like your mind is essentially your temple. You know, 2544 02:00:03.760 --> 02:00:05.960 That's why your temple's right there. So like it's like 2545 02:00:06.159 --> 02:00:08.159 if you look at your mind as if it's your temple, 2546 02:00:08.199 --> 02:00:11.079 then you go into your temple and that's where you 2547 02:00:11.119 --> 02:00:13.960 stop thinking and you calibrate and like you get it 2548 02:00:13.960 --> 02:00:15.840 all together, and that's where you have to imagine it. 2549 02:00:15.880 --> 02:00:18.199 That's where you have to crystallize it, and eventually you 2550 02:00:18.279 --> 02:00:21.039 take it outside of the temple and only shit like 2551 02:00:21.319 --> 02:00:24.279 it it finally is here. So yeah, dude, I I 2552 02:00:24.520 --> 02:00:27.079 I appreciate what you're doing, man, and I appreciate you know, 2553 02:00:27.199 --> 02:00:29.560 like people like you who are out there trying to 2554 02:00:29.560 --> 02:00:31.159 get people out of the mud, trying to get people 2555 02:00:31.159 --> 02:00:34.439 out of their own way. I think that's extremely important. 2556 02:00:34.479 --> 02:00:38.039 I know that this wasn't a conspiracy show for all 2557 02:00:38.039 --> 02:00:39.880 the good cult members out there, but sometimes you got 2558 02:00:39.960 --> 02:00:42.479 to fucking take a breather. And you know, we want 2559 02:00:42.520 --> 02:00:44.760 to be an inspiration, you know, like we want to 2560 02:00:44.800 --> 02:00:47.399 inspire people to like take that leap of faith and 2561 02:00:47.640 --> 02:00:50.520 go after whatever you really want to do. If you're 2562 02:00:50.560 --> 02:00:52.840 tired of fucking clocking in over at the steel mill, 2563 02:00:53.239 --> 02:00:55.640 or you're tired of clocking in at the plant, you know, 2564 02:00:55.680 --> 02:00:58.479 you're tired of fucking you know, having a mop bucket 2565 02:00:58.520 --> 02:01:00.960 all day long, and you're pushing that around knowing that 2566 02:01:01.000 --> 02:01:03.359 you could be something more than like. I hope that 2567 02:01:03.720 --> 02:01:05.880 all three of us were able to inspire y'all in 2568 02:01:05.920 --> 02:01:06.640 some kind of way. 2569 02:01:07.079 --> 02:01:09.279 I think this played out beautifully with the three episodes 2570 02:01:09.319 --> 02:01:14.199 we just released with Tavistock Institute propagandizing and basically corrupting 2571 02:01:14.279 --> 02:01:17.479 the mind of all Americans. For the most part, I 2572 02:01:17.520 --> 02:01:21.800 think this episode came at a some might say serendipitous 2573 02:01:22.039 --> 02:01:24.119 time as a matter of fact, as we are showing 2574 02:01:24.159 --> 02:01:26.319 all of our good cult members how much they have 2575 02:01:26.399 --> 02:01:30.960 been bombarded with propaganda from outside sources and forces. I 2576 02:01:31.000 --> 02:01:34.560 think this episode played very well into waking yourself up 2577 02:01:34.640 --> 02:01:36.359 out of your own rut that you may have found 2578 02:01:36.359 --> 02:01:38.239 yourself in and achieving whatever goal you have. 2579 02:01:38.439 --> 02:01:42.079 Fuck yeah, man, divine timing. One might say, have you 2580 02:01:42.159 --> 02:01:46.119 have you, guys ever played God of War? Yes? Have 2581 02:01:46.239 --> 02:01:49.119 you played Ragnarok, God Warragnaron? Nah? 2582 02:01:49.119 --> 02:01:49.520 I have not. 2583 02:01:49.760 --> 02:01:52.159 I have not Okay, listen, do you mind if I 2584 02:01:52.199 --> 02:01:53.399 spoil one thing for you? 2585 02:01:53.399 --> 02:01:54.279 Go for it, Doug. 2586 02:01:54.600 --> 02:01:57.960 Okay, So there's this there's this concept of the Norse 2587 02:01:58.000 --> 02:02:02.159 mythology called the Norns, and the Norns weave the lines 2588 02:02:02.159 --> 02:02:04.600 of fate. Now, what was interesting is when I got 2589 02:02:04.640 --> 02:02:07.079 to that part of the game, you know Ragnarok was coming, 2590 02:02:07.239 --> 02:02:10.199 and you know the Norns told Crados that he was 2591 02:02:10.359 --> 02:02:14.399 destined to fail and die in Ragnarok, right, and the 2592 02:02:14.479 --> 02:02:17.159 whole game was showing you that Crados was going to 2593 02:02:17.279 --> 02:02:22.640 die in Ragnarok. And what was interesting is they explained 2594 02:02:22.680 --> 02:02:25.520 to you the reason why his fate was destined is 2595 02:02:25.560 --> 02:02:29.560 because Crados never changed and Cratos will be the same. 2596 02:02:30.119 --> 02:02:34.720 So if Cradles were to change himself, he can change 2597 02:02:34.760 --> 02:02:38.399 his fate quote unquote, because he's now changed and the 2598 02:02:38.560 --> 02:02:41.640 lines of fate has completely changed around him. So moral 2599 02:02:41.640 --> 02:02:44.319 of the story is, if you feel like you're destined 2600 02:02:44.359 --> 02:02:47.359 for something else, well, if you actually were to change 2601 02:02:47.359 --> 02:02:49.880 yourself and change the way you think about things, then 2602 02:02:49.920 --> 02:02:52.880 your destiny and your faith could be something completely different 2603 02:02:52.920 --> 02:02:55.079 than you never could have conceived before. 2604 02:02:55.399 --> 02:02:59.119 Beautifully said, Sir, beautifully said, And I think that everybody 2605 02:02:59.159 --> 02:03:02.960 you know could it could benefit from listening to that 2606 02:03:03.039 --> 02:03:04.960 kind of stuff. You know, we always we all need 2607 02:03:05.000 --> 02:03:06.840 a little pump up, you know what I'm saying every 2608 02:03:06.840 --> 02:03:09.720 now and then. You know, everybody needs a little Tony 2609 02:03:09.800 --> 02:03:15.520 Robbins in their life. Josh, if you would, sir, could 2610 02:03:15.560 --> 02:03:17.159 you tell all of our good cult members where they 2611 02:03:17.159 --> 02:03:18.479 can find you and all your great work. 2612 02:03:18.520 --> 02:03:21.800 Man, all right, you can find me Josh Anthony X 2613 02:03:21.840 --> 02:03:25.920 on Instagram, YouTube, and TikTok, and then you can find 2614 02:03:25.920 --> 02:03:30.800 my podcast called Incursion on all the platforms. I'm gonna 2615 02:03:30.800 --> 02:03:33.720 be dropping like a six hour free course in like 2616 02:03:33.760 --> 02:03:36.399 the next week. So if anyone is interested in learning 2617 02:03:36.479 --> 02:03:39.640 how to rewire your mind for success, whether you're just 2618 02:03:39.680 --> 02:03:43.119 starting or you already started your entrepreneur journey, stay tuned 2619 02:03:43.159 --> 02:03:44.960 for that is completely free. I'm gonna be dropping then 2620 02:03:44.960 --> 02:03:45.960 in the next two weeks. 2621 02:03:46.279 --> 02:03:48.760 Hell yeah, go check it out. We're gonna have your 2622 02:03:48.760 --> 02:03:50.479 links down on the show notes for anybody wants that 2623 02:03:51.000 --> 02:03:54.039 hyper link to just send you right there. And so yeah, 2624 02:03:54.119 --> 02:03:56.560 definitely go check them out. Dude. I love everything that 2625 02:03:56.600 --> 02:03:58.920 you're doing. I love the vibe that you have and 2626 02:03:59.279 --> 02:04:03.319 it's all just and positivity, brothers. So yeah, we appreciate that, So. 2627 02:04:03.359 --> 02:04:06.720 Jout that while everybody's down there looking in the links 2628 02:04:06.720 --> 02:04:09.199 and checking our boy Josh out with all of his 2629 02:04:09.279 --> 02:04:11.359 things and his stuff. If they would like to support 2630 02:04:11.399 --> 02:04:13.319 the show in another way, and if they would like 2631 02:04:13.399 --> 02:04:15.720 to see all of our faces rather than just hear 2632 02:04:15.800 --> 02:04:17.520 our voices, tell them where they. 2633 02:04:17.439 --> 02:04:20.239 Can go Patreon dot com slash Cult of Conspiracy Podcast. 2634 02:04:20.319 --> 02:04:22.159 That link is down in the show notes below. It's 2635 02:04:22.159 --> 02:04:23.640 the best way to be able to support us. And 2636 02:04:23.720 --> 02:04:26.560 also if you're tired of those damn commercials. It is 2637 02:04:26.720 --> 02:04:32.560 completely I don't normally say that first, but it just 2638 02:04:32.760 --> 02:04:34.439 came out, you know, I just had to throw that 2639 02:04:34.520 --> 02:04:37.399 out there. But it's great in many ways. You'll be 2640 02:04:37.399 --> 02:04:39.920 able to see the video, You'll be able to comment 2641 02:04:40.079 --> 02:04:42.560 under each video. It's a lot more personal. You'll be 2642 02:04:42.600 --> 02:04:45.600 able to slide into the dms very easy. Jacob checks 2643 02:04:45.640 --> 02:04:48.039 that every single day gets back to every single person. 2644 02:04:48.239 --> 02:04:50.359 If you have a specific message for me, he'll relay 2645 02:04:50.399 --> 02:04:53.159 it over to me. So yeah, anybody that wants to 2646 02:04:53.159 --> 02:04:54.960 be able to co check it out and become an 2647 02:04:55.000 --> 02:04:57.920 actual cult member, you can go and tell your family, Yo, 2648 02:04:58.000 --> 02:04:59.600 I just joined a cult. They're gonna be like, what 2649 02:04:59.640 --> 02:05:01.920 the f are you talking about being like, no, no, no, 2650 02:05:01.960 --> 02:05:05.239 it's it's there's no sex, there's no drugs, nobody's asking 2651 02:05:05.319 --> 02:05:08.079 me for any kind of lap dance or anything like that. 2652 02:05:09.039 --> 02:05:11.239 It's all just about opening up your third eye. That 2653 02:05:11.399 --> 02:05:13.920 is what it's all about. And if speaking of opening 2654 02:05:13.960 --> 02:05:15.479 up your third eye, if you sign up for the 2655 02:05:15.520 --> 02:05:18.159 Third Eye All the Way Open Tier, you will have 2656 02:05:18.279 --> 02:05:21.199 access to join us every Tuesday night at nine pm 2657 02:05:21.239 --> 02:05:25.239 Central for the Cult Member Live Show. Those shows go hard, dude, 2658 02:05:25.279 --> 02:05:27.319 that's just what they do. Like, it's hard and the 2659 02:05:27.359 --> 02:05:31.000 fucking paint and it's talking about anything and everything. What 2660 02:05:31.239 --> 02:05:33.520 you what or whatever you want to bring up. We 2661 02:05:33.600 --> 02:05:36.560 will dive into sorry about this last time we we 2662 02:05:36.600 --> 02:05:39.279 went deep down a rabbit hole me, Jacob and Nick 2663 02:05:39.319 --> 02:05:43.239 basically so uh, that's not normally how they are. But 2664 02:05:43.239 --> 02:05:44.880 if you want to be a part of that conversation 2665 02:05:44.960 --> 02:05:47.560 in real time, then uh then come check us out 2666 02:05:47.560 --> 02:05:49.720 patroon dot com slash Culti of Conspiracy Podcast. 2667 02:05:50.279 --> 02:05:52.399 Another way that you could support the show and also 2668 02:05:52.399 --> 02:05:55.239 support your own financial freedoms and future would be to 2669 02:05:55.319 --> 02:05:58.840 go to the link below at ccsilver dot com. 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And while 2678 02:06:19.119 --> 02:06:21.319 it is still able to be bought, while silver is 2679 02:06:21.359 --> 02:06:24.159 still semi affordable, gold is up there three thousand dollars 2680 02:06:24.239 --> 02:06:27.359 an ounce or some wild shit right now, silver is 2681 02:06:27.399 --> 02:06:29.279 a little over thirty dollars an ounce, And while it 2682 02:06:29.359 --> 02:06:32.239 is still able to be bought by everybody on the 2683 02:06:32.239 --> 02:06:35.520 street right now, come get your start cocsilver dot com 2684 02:06:35.520 --> 02:06:38.520 again link in the description below. But another way that 2685 02:06:38.600 --> 02:06:41.399 you can support this show and our dreams of making 2686 02:06:41.439 --> 02:06:45.720 this a worldwide phenomenon style cult would be too please 2687 02:06:45.960 --> 02:06:46.800 at this time. 2688 02:06:47.439 --> 02:06:48.960 Hit the five stars, hit the shares. 2689 02:06:48.760 --> 02:06:50.520 Of like subscribes to comment, leave of posting review and 2690 02:06:50.560 --> 02:06:52.119 shares with their friends and family, shares everyw'ere. 2691 02:06:52.119 --> 02:06:52.680 Here's the deal. 2692 02:06:52.920 --> 02:06:55.119 The more activity are algorithm Sea across all of our 2693 02:06:55.159 --> 02:06:57.640 listening platforms, the more we get promoted to more potential 2694 02:06:57.680 --> 02:06:59.479 listeners who could then become potential cult. 2695 02:06:59.279 --> 02:07:01.039 Members like the rest fine ladies and gentlemen. 2696 02:07:01.279 --> 02:07:02.560 Why are you ready to go check out the meta 2697 02:07:02.600 --> 02:07:04.359 mysteries Jonathan's on the show and getting the same five 2698 02:07:04.359 --> 02:07:06.279 star reviews and the positivity and the comments. 2699 02:07:05.960 --> 02:07:06.600 And all the things. 2700 02:07:06.800 --> 02:07:09.119 CO check out CAJ tonight, Hey, co check out each 2701 02:07:09.119 --> 02:07:12.039 of our individual patreons to join us for our Wednesday 2702 02:07:12.119 --> 02:07:14.439 night live that we do every Wednesday night at nine 2703 02:07:14.479 --> 02:07:15.159 pm Central. 2704 02:07:15.279 --> 02:07:17.159 And we thank you for everybody's already going and done so. 2705 02:07:17.399 --> 02:07:20.880 And with that being sad, this was another beautiful episode. 2706 02:07:20.560 --> 02:07:24.399 Of the Cults of Conspiracy. 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