1 00:00:01,600 --> 00:00:05,919 Speaker 1: Hi, This is Stuart More. Goal is from Glenn Mills, Pennsylvania, 2 00:00:06,599 --> 00:00:10,240 and I played golf at the highly rating Glen Mills 3 00:00:10,279 --> 00:00:14,519 Golf Course. Welcome to Golf Smarter number four. 4 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:18,079 Speaker 2: Hundred and eighty one, published on March twenty four, twenty fifteen. 5 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:23,280 Speaker 3: Welcome to Golf Smarter mulligans, your second chance to gain 6 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:26,920 insight and advice from the best instructors featured on the 7 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:32,960 Golf Smarter podcast. Great Golf Instruction Never gets Old. Our 8 00:00:33,039 --> 00:00:37,840 interview library features hundreds of hours of game improvement conversations 9 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:41,439 like this that are no longer available in any podcast app. 10 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 1: If you can handle being a little bit uncomfortable at 11 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:46,200 the start because we had to change the way you 12 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:48,159 were standing or the way you were holding the golf 13 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:51,200 club in order to get you to swing differently, then 14 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:54,039 you can handle a lesson with me. But that's amazing 15 00:00:54,119 --> 00:00:57,679 how much you can change where someone's golf club goes 16 00:00:57,799 --> 00:01:00,439 or how it moves around their body just simp by 17 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:03,119 changing how they hold the club and set up to 18 00:01:03,159 --> 00:01:03,520 the ball. 19 00:01:03,799 --> 00:01:06,519 Speaker 2: Isn't that the easiest thing to correct for you, I 20 00:01:06,519 --> 00:01:07,959 would think, is just your setup? 21 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's not easy. A lot of people just 22 00:01:10,239 --> 00:01:12,480 get the alignment part wrong all the time. Have to 23 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:14,359 know where you're going if you can't get lined up 24 00:01:14,359 --> 00:01:14,640 to it. 25 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 2: Their focus is hitting the ball, not where the ball's going. 26 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, we have a challenge with all my students. 27 00:01:20,159 --> 00:01:22,159 This is the first thing to hear on the teaching tea. 28 00:01:22,239 --> 00:01:24,319 If we took a picture of you from the side 29 00:01:24,359 --> 00:01:26,480 and from the back, and then you go home, and 30 00:01:26,519 --> 00:01:28,560 then you come back today and you set up again 31 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:31,280 to hit a golf ball a day later, you get 32 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:34,000 one hundred thousand dollars. If you set up exactly the 33 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:36,480 same way two days in a row. How would you 34 00:01:36,519 --> 00:01:38,760 do it? What would you measure yourself off of? They 35 00:01:38,799 --> 00:01:41,519 all start figuring out that the target's pretty important after 36 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:44,359 that and lining up square to it because you can 37 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:46,400 do that every day, day in and day out. 38 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 2: How to identify and eliminate pressure on the golf course 39 00:01:56,159 --> 00:01:57,640 With Garrett Jenkinson. 40 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 3: This is Golf Smarter Premium. 41 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:06,239 Speaker 2: Here's your host, Fred Green. Welcome to the Golf Smarter Podcast. 42 00:02:06,319 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 1: Garrett, Hey Fred, how are you? 43 00:02:09,479 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 2: I'm great, So you're in Canada. How's the weather today? 44 00:02:13,759 --> 00:02:16,319 Speaker 1: Oh, we're having a good one today. We're going to 45 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:17,879 start golfing early this year. 46 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,879 Speaker 2: Is that a good thing or I mean, we have 47 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:24,919 serious drought conditions here in California. We're in the fourth year, 48 00:02:25,439 --> 00:02:28,400 starting the fourth year of an ugly drought, and I'm 49 00:02:28,479 --> 00:02:30,879 reading articles that's saying, yeah, California, it's about one year 50 00:02:30,879 --> 00:02:33,520 of water left. It's like, but that's not a problem 51 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:35,879 for you guys. You just hope that the thaws out 52 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:37,360 and warms up early. 53 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:40,479 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I don't know. It'd be nice if we 54 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:43,560 could go year round, because what happens for us because 55 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:45,680 we got the condensed season, everyone just sort of goes 56 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:47,520 nuts for a voute four or five months. 57 00:02:49,199 --> 00:02:51,759 Speaker 2: Well to get year round golf, I'm sorry, but you 58 00:02:51,879 --> 00:02:52,960 have to leave Canada. 59 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:56,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, and we do, right. 60 00:02:57,319 --> 00:02:59,199 Speaker 2: And where do you go for your winter golf? 61 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,439 Speaker 1: I'm a Phoenix or Palm Springs guy. Yeah? 62 00:03:03,879 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, well, next time you're headed out there, let 63 00:03:06,439 --> 00:03:09,039 me know. I love going to Palm Springs. I'll drive 64 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:13,240 down there, all right, love it, love it. So I 65 00:03:13,439 --> 00:03:16,759 was introduced to you by listener and former guests of 66 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:22,680 the show, Michael Hamill, who was going crazy about your 67 00:03:22,759 --> 00:03:26,039 teaching philosophy starting on Facebook and then writing to me 68 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:30,479 just talking about how he's really changed his perspective based 69 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:31,360 on working with you. 70 00:03:33,319 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 1: Mike's a fitness guy in town here and I've been 71 00:03:37,039 --> 00:03:44,319 running golf fitness programs for about fifteen years now in Calgary, 72 00:03:46,039 --> 00:03:49,360 and it's the way I ended up getting into fitness. 73 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:52,479 It wasn't because I thought we should do fitness. It 74 00:03:52,599 --> 00:03:56,319 was because I thought I could see people couldn't do 75 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:58,400 what I was asking him to do on the teaching tea. 76 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:02,159 So I've figured out a way to do some fitness 77 00:04:02,159 --> 00:04:05,159 things and body function things to get people to be 78 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:07,479 able to perform the things they needed to do on 79 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:08,199 the teaching tea. 80 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 2: For me, Oh, I want to back right up there 81 00:04:11,879 --> 00:04:14,240 and pick on that for a second. What are the 82 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:17,560 things that we don't do? What can't we do that 83 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:19,480 you were noticing that made you change? 84 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:24,639 Speaker 1: This? All the changes for everybody, I think. And we're 85 00:04:24,639 --> 00:04:27,480 getting some really good info nowadays. I mean, we've got 86 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:32,000 these TPI screens that are going on. The Titleist Performance 87 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:36,160 Institute has got guys studying the body and how it 88 00:04:36,199 --> 00:04:41,000 works and all those things. But most of its flexibility 89 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:45,680 issues for people, you know, and the troubles that we 90 00:04:45,759 --> 00:04:49,000 get is it's body function. Does your body work like 91 00:04:49,079 --> 00:04:51,439 it did? When you were ten years old. If you 92 00:04:51,439 --> 00:04:54,480 ask anyone that, everyone will say not really. 93 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 2: Not really, It's more like, of course not. 94 00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:05,319 Speaker 1: Yeah exactly, and so thank goodness, Yeah yeah maybe maybe. So. 95 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:07,480 What we've been able to figure out is that we 96 00:05:07,519 --> 00:05:10,959 can actually get people's function of their body back just 97 00:05:11,199 --> 00:05:18,399 hit flexibility, rotational flexibility, strength, posture, balance, even and we 98 00:05:18,519 --> 00:05:21,480 get people improving at that, and it's amazing how much 99 00:05:21,519 --> 00:05:26,360 we can impact their game. Everything that I do is 100 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:29,680 always I've always said I, if it isn't going to 101 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:31,519 improve your game, I'm not going to give it to you, 102 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:37,519 and I guarantee the same thing with with the fitness 103 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:39,720 program that we do. I tell people, if it doesn't 104 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:43,639 help you, don't pay me. Wow, that's what I say 105 00:05:43,639 --> 00:05:45,000 with my lessons as well. Well. 106 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 2: How how much time do I get before I decide 107 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:47,959 if it's helped me or not? 108 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 1: Yeah? You only need an hour. I only need to 109 00:05:52,519 --> 00:05:53,079 prove it to you. 110 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, Well how can I tell you if it's 111 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:58,839 not working without going on try? Because what I have 112 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:04,319 noticed unless is that even with an hour lesson is 113 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:07,240 that by the end of the hour, everything's working beautifully. 114 00:06:08,519 --> 00:06:11,319 But when I get to go back out to either 115 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:14,040 the range or the course which is may not be 116 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:17,839 for another week or so, it's not there anymore. 117 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:22,160 Speaker 1: Well, that's that's a shame. We've got to keep on progressing. 118 00:06:22,199 --> 00:06:24,480 We need to be walking that, you know, going up 119 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:27,560 up the staircase, and we don't want to be regressing 120 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:30,720 and coming back and forth. We want to continue to 121 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:33,120 progress forward, right, But. 122 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:37,319 Speaker 2: It's not always easy to when you're on your own, 123 00:06:37,439 --> 00:06:39,279 to make it work like it did when the teacher 124 00:06:39,399 --> 00:06:41,240 was giving you the nuances. 125 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:43,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. Well you can hire us to just 126 00:06:43,439 --> 00:06:46,639 go golf with you all the time too. I don't mind. 127 00:06:48,199 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 2: Sorry, my dollars are going into the playing golf round 128 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:55,879 and golf, that's right. So how do we do it? 129 00:06:55,959 --> 00:06:58,519 Speaker 1: I mean, how do we stay on top of it? 130 00:06:58,680 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know exactly. 131 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 1: I don't know. I think I think that's probably my 132 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:06,920 challenge too. I look at it and I'm always, you know, 133 00:07:07,759 --> 00:07:11,959 every year, I'm asking myself, not even every year, it's 134 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:16,519 every week, every day, what can I do today to 135 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:21,480 help my students get better? What can I change? What 136 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:24,879 can I add? Can I you know, if if it's 137 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:28,160 if it's video for one person and a track man 138 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:32,399 for another, maybe even just duct taping someone another one, 139 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:33,439 you know. 140 00:07:33,439 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 2: Whatever, Have you ever ductaped somebody? 141 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: No? No, but I certainly certainly tried all the different 142 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:42,680 apparatuses out there and had a few on people. But 143 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:46,920 you know, I think that people have to come to 144 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:50,079 an idea of what they want to see in their 145 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:51,839 golf swing and how they want to do it. And 146 00:07:51,879 --> 00:07:53,720 I that's what I try to do with my students 147 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:58,519 is create a team atmosphere of what are we trying 148 00:07:58,519 --> 00:08:01,680 to do, and where are we going and how we're 149 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:03,319 going to get there, and we do We do it together. 150 00:08:03,399 --> 00:08:05,680 I don't I don't just pass the info and then 151 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:10,079 walk away. It's a process that we work through, step 152 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:13,879 by step over a series of lessons. I don't I 153 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:16,360 don't ever like seeing someone for one lesson. I need 154 00:08:16,399 --> 00:08:19,399 to see them for a while and we come up 155 00:08:19,439 --> 00:08:21,959 with those plans together and nail it all down. 156 00:08:23,959 --> 00:08:26,839 Speaker 2: Now, you sent me an email recently and you were 157 00:08:26,879 --> 00:08:28,839 talking about how the best players in the world have 158 00:08:29,639 --> 00:08:34,919 many opportunities to improve their game, but the average golfer, 159 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:41,399 we don't. So and you put it on your responsibility. 160 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:46,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've got the In the last couple of years, 161 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:49,120 I've got a really powerful piece of technology called a 162 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:53,759 track Man and it's a Doppler radar that that gives 163 00:08:53,759 --> 00:08:56,960 you ball and club data. I think a lot of 164 00:08:56,960 --> 00:09:00,720 guys are using it as a science experiment there, physics guys, 165 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:04,039 and they really like it. And I think that a 166 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:06,679 lot of those types of guys that get into the 167 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:12,320 physics too much, that information can crush people in this game. 168 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:15,600 They can take that info and be able to not 169 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:17,840 even hit a golf ball after listening to it all. 170 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:22,039 So I think it's important to have a machine like 171 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:25,480 that to learn more about what's going on. And it 172 00:09:25,759 --> 00:09:29,039 gives us the situation that's happening with people. And so 173 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:31,480 it's factual data of what happens at the moment of 174 00:09:31,519 --> 00:09:36,720 impact with the ball and the club. And then you 175 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:43,120 take it and you know, after a lesson, you'll see 176 00:09:43,159 --> 00:09:45,279 that here's where I was at the start of the lesson, 177 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:48,720 and here's what actually happened with my golf ball and 178 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:52,639 the distance different and the flight difference and the things 179 00:09:52,639 --> 00:09:55,480 that we changed did they actually work in a lesson? 180 00:09:56,559 --> 00:10:00,159 And it's really interesting with that piece of information and 181 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:03,720 how how people do stick with the change then because 182 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:06,840 they've seen it and it's factual data. Of if you 183 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:11,440 do this, then this will happen, because it's not easy. 184 00:10:11,519 --> 00:10:13,559 Like you said, it's not easy to stick with what 185 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:16,039 you learned in the lesson. You sort of revert to 186 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:20,279 your old things. But I find that with this piece 187 00:10:20,279 --> 00:10:25,080 of machinery that when guys get the information, it just 188 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:27,440 it really hits home for them, and they're like, I'm 189 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:29,519 gonna I am really going to stick with this because 190 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:32,840 I saw it. I added twenty yards to my iron 191 00:10:33,039 --> 00:10:36,360 I you know, every iron shot I added. I started 192 00:10:36,399 --> 00:10:38,320 drawing the ball and I've never done that before. I 193 00:10:38,399 --> 00:10:39,840 used to cut it all the time, and I don't 194 00:10:39,879 --> 00:10:42,080 want to do that. And so they really stick with 195 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:45,200 it because the information is really powerful. 196 00:10:46,399 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 2: Right we all believe that. We all think like, oh, 197 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:51,240 now now that I got it, I'm just gonna run 198 00:10:51,279 --> 00:10:53,600 with this all the time. And again you take it 199 00:10:53,639 --> 00:10:55,519 back out to the course the next week and it's like, 200 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:57,480 wait a minute, how did that work? How come it's 201 00:10:57,480 --> 00:11:01,559 not working today? 202 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:06,080 Speaker 1: You know, I don't. I don't see. I like to 203 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:09,120 think that maybe my students are a little different than that. 204 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 2: Well congratulations, I wonder fantastic. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, go ahead. 205 00:11:18,159 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 1: No, So you know, I think that's that's trying to 206 00:11:21,519 --> 00:11:23,919 find ways. If if I found that my students were 207 00:11:23,919 --> 00:11:28,639 all having that scenario, then in my packages and things 208 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:30,799 just the way that I think I would be adding 209 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:34,519 adding in packages that included, hey, okay, we're going to 210 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:36,440 do a lesson on the on the range, and then 211 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:38,559 we've got another one that we're going to do on 212 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:40,559 the golf course. I'd be saying you have to do it. 213 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:42,960 Where I'm going on the golf course with you, there's 214 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:48,679 no choice. But I'm finding a big success rate in 215 00:11:48,759 --> 00:11:49,799 a lot of my students. 216 00:11:50,320 --> 00:12:00,519 Speaker 2: Congratulations, thank you. It's a very different lesson going onto 217 00:12:00,519 --> 00:12:02,519 the golf course with them then working on the range, 218 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:02,919 isn't it. 219 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, it's it gets a little bit more focused 220 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:10,639 on what are you thinking rather than what are you doing? 221 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:14,200 You know, on the on the teaching tee, everyone wants 222 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:16,240 to know what their body is doing and how it's 223 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:20,639 supposed to work, and you know, and you get, you 224 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:22,480 get I have to get them focused on what the 225 00:12:22,519 --> 00:12:24,600 golf ball is doing rather than what their body's doing 226 00:12:24,639 --> 00:12:26,919 all the time. And then you know, I think I 227 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:30,759 think there's helping someone think their way around the golf 228 00:12:30,799 --> 00:12:33,919 course is a big one. One one thing I always 229 00:12:33,919 --> 00:12:37,039 say to people on the golf course is, on every 230 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:40,759 single shot, if I bet you one thousand dollars to 231 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:44,399 hit the fairway off the first tee one, what club 232 00:12:44,399 --> 00:12:48,159 would you hit? Two? And two? How hard would you 233 00:12:48,159 --> 00:12:49,960 swing at it? If you hit the fairway, you get 234 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:55,200 a thousand dollars. So I think that changes it for 235 00:12:55,279 --> 00:12:57,879 people a lot. And that's probably my my number one 236 00:12:57,919 --> 00:12:59,720 comment on the golf course is if you just heard 237 00:12:59,759 --> 00:13:03,720 me in your ear on every single shot saying thousand bucks, 238 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:06,320 if you hit the green, what club would you hit? 239 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:08,759 What part of the green would you hit to? How 240 00:13:08,799 --> 00:13:11,480 hard would you swing? And what club would you use? 241 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:13,679 Speaker 2: Wait? What are you talking about? A par three or 242 00:13:13,759 --> 00:13:15,799 being able to reach the green on a par four 243 00:13:16,399 --> 00:13:17,279 on your D shot? 244 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 1: Everything? 245 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 2: Everything, well, just being able to reach the green off 246 00:13:21,279 --> 00:13:23,399 your T shot, no matter where you're hitting from. 247 00:13:23,799 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And I think you know yeah, because I 248 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:28,679 think you know. So if I gave it to you, 249 00:13:29,399 --> 00:13:32,080 Fred and I said we were at one fifty, let's say, 250 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:36,039 and we've got a green and you go right away, 251 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:38,399 you know, you pull your one fifty club, you say, well, 252 00:13:38,399 --> 00:13:42,639 that's an eight iron for me. Okay, great, Now, all 253 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:44,360 of a sudden. If I said, there's a little bit 254 00:13:44,399 --> 00:13:47,960 of wind in your face, the pin is tucked back 255 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:51,600 right corner, and there's a big wide part of the 256 00:13:51,639 --> 00:13:55,159 green on the left, maybe you would chip a little 257 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:57,600 seven iron for a thousand bucks into the big part 258 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:00,440 of the green instead of an eight iron. Just it 259 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:03,279 makes you think different if you think that the goal 260 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:05,559 of the shot is to hit the green, not not 261 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:11,120 you know, not hit it within five feet. And if 262 00:14:11,159 --> 00:14:14,080 you think that way on every shot that you know, 263 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:16,759 what is it that you know? What shot? A shot 264 00:14:16,799 --> 00:14:20,279 at a time means that you're going to hit your shot. 265 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:23,000 So the first te you're going to put a t 266 00:14:23,159 --> 00:14:24,799 in the ground, you're going to put a ball on it, 267 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:27,919 and you're going to hit the golf ball in the 268 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:33,120 fairway hopefully, and then you're going home. That was golf 269 00:14:33,159 --> 00:14:35,240 for today. That's one shot at a time, and your 270 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:38,799 measure is did I hit the fairway. That's that's that 271 00:14:38,879 --> 00:14:41,039 you succeeded if you did, and you failed if you 272 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:46,080 hit it anywhere else other than there. And so one 273 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:50,399 shot at a time means actually one shot at a 274 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:53,240 time meaning I'm a success if I hit the fairway 275 00:14:53,279 --> 00:14:56,879 with that swing, and then my next shot would be 276 00:14:57,799 --> 00:15:02,320 hitting the green with my next shot or the fair way. 277 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:04,879 If it was a part five, do. 278 00:15:04,879 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 2: You change that philosophy or that approach depending on the 279 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:14,320 level of skill per player. Yeah, I mean, like for 280 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:16,399 a single handicap, would you say, all right, your goal 281 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:17,759 is not to hit the green, Your goal is to 282 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:20,120 get it within five feet of you in your approach 283 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:24,120 shot get it within you know, tap in distance on 284 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:26,279 that or are you still trying to just keep the 285 00:15:26,399 --> 00:15:28,200 idea of let's just get it to the green and 286 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:29,000 two put. 287 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 1: It depends on where we're at. If I already had 288 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:35,399 a player that I've been working with for a while 289 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:38,080 and they've got that figured out that it's more important 290 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:39,480 to hit the green than it is to hit it 291 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:42,279 to five feet, and then let your potter do a 292 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:44,600 little talking for you. If we were just in a 293 00:15:44,639 --> 00:15:48,639 truly coaching scenario and I said, hey, I noticed you 294 00:15:48,759 --> 00:15:51,759 had ten shots inside one hundred yards and you're not 295 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:55,399 hitting them close enough, then we could have that discussion. 296 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:58,279 You're going to lower your scores be if you get 297 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:01,240 your hundred yard shots closer to the flag than We 298 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:05,399 got to talk about that. And it's a risk reward 299 00:16:05,399 --> 00:16:09,159 thing from one hundred yards. You might go at any 300 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:13,600 flag from one hundred and fifty yards. You might not 301 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:15,440 go with the same flag as you would from one 302 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:16,120 hundred yards. 303 00:16:16,399 --> 00:16:19,279 Speaker 2: Well you yeah, hopefully you're not. I mean, now we're 304 00:16:19,279 --> 00:16:25,240 getting into course management, right, right, It's true, that's true. Yeah. 305 00:16:25,519 --> 00:16:27,440 I'll be at a par three one hundred and eighty 306 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:30,840 yards with a friend who, even on his best of days, 307 00:16:30,879 --> 00:16:32,799 can drive the ball one hundred and fifty yards with 308 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:36,679 his driver, and he'll pull out his hybrid and you're like, oh, yeah, 309 00:16:36,759 --> 00:16:38,879 flags in the back right, I'm going after It's like, 310 00:16:39,559 --> 00:16:41,679 just try to get to the green. What are you 311 00:16:41,799 --> 00:16:43,000 doing right? 312 00:16:43,679 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 1: Right? Yeah? And I think that's it's it comes down. Yeah, 313 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:50,279 So it changes for the level of player. For sure, 314 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:54,240 there's people who can't reach par fours and two right, 315 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:59,200 But then I'd be saying, well that that's that's a shame. 316 00:16:59,279 --> 00:17:01,159 Let's go over to the teaching tea and show you 317 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:04,000 how to hit it further right, and then we're going 318 00:17:04,079 --> 00:17:06,039 to get onto the course. So sometimes you don't want 319 00:17:06,039 --> 00:17:08,000 to get onto the course too early either. I think 320 00:17:08,039 --> 00:17:11,200 that everyone, everyone should be able to have a chance 321 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:13,440 of hitting part fours and two, that that shouldn't be 322 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:15,920 a problem unless the golf course is totally unfair. 323 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:21,079 Speaker 2: And there are those no, yeah, you know that there 324 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:24,119 are there are some architects who like to just mess 325 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:26,160 with you, and then there are those who you don't 326 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:29,519 want to make make it so well, was it? Robert 327 00:17:29,559 --> 00:17:34,279 Trent Jones Sr. Was a difficult par and easy voguee. 328 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:37,799 Speaker 1: Yeah. I would love to see a golf course where 329 00:17:38,079 --> 00:17:41,240 we don't have to have handicaps. There's so many tea 330 00:17:41,319 --> 00:17:45,000 boxes that what levels you off on a hole is 331 00:17:45,039 --> 00:17:46,960 if we're on a four hundred yard par four and 332 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:49,279 I play it at four hundred yards, what yardage doesn't 333 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:52,640 need for you for you? Is it? What yards doesn't 334 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:54,799 need to be for you to play me straight up 335 00:17:54,839 --> 00:17:55,799 on that hole? Well? 336 00:17:55,839 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 2: Isn't that the whole tea at forward program? 337 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:01,440 Speaker 1: Yeah? And I think that I want to see a 338 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:03,599 golf course done that way. I'd love to see. 339 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:07,119 Speaker 2: It really well. The whole point of teer forward, I think, 340 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:09,160 is for every course to participate in their own way 341 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:11,799 and you just decide, you know, if I want to 342 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:14,319 hit an eight iron approach shot like they do on 343 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:17,960 the tour, then I need to move my tea box 344 00:18:18,039 --> 00:18:21,559 up another thirty forty yards, right, So so do it 345 00:18:21,599 --> 00:18:24,039 that way. Just tee it up farther forward so you 346 00:18:24,039 --> 00:18:26,400 can get yourself in position for that eight iron shot. 347 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would love to do it. I'd love to 348 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:31,599 go on the course with a few people and just 349 00:18:31,599 --> 00:18:34,480 say what yardage does everybody need to have this whole 350 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:38,240 lot to play straight up? The beginner golfer might play 351 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:42,599 the a part for at one hundred yards? Wow? 352 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:43,359 Speaker 2: Why not? 353 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:44,519 Speaker 1: Why not? 354 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:48,400 Speaker 2: I mean it's not tournament play, obviously. 355 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:54,200 Speaker 1: I'd be more inclined to wager something against you or 356 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:57,039 with you if you were getting two shots on a 357 00:18:57,039 --> 00:18:59,240 hole versus let's play straight up and I don't care 358 00:18:59,279 --> 00:19:01,480 what your yardage is. I'll play you straight up. 359 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:05,359 Speaker 2: I like that because my kid Mike, when I go 360 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:07,279 out with my son to play, and he's always wanting 361 00:19:07,319 --> 00:19:09,240 to make bets with me just to keep his head 362 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:11,680 in the game. It's like, I don't I don't do that. 363 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:13,920 He's like, how many strokes you give me? How many strokes? 364 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:16,440 I said, now, I'll give you yardage instead. You can 365 00:19:16,839 --> 00:19:20,160 you can tee it up right up. 366 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 1: To one hundred and fifty yards and I'll play you 367 00:19:22,279 --> 00:19:22,799 straight up. 368 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 2: That's pretty good. I like that idea. We're going to 369 00:19:28,279 --> 00:19:29,119 make a note on that. 370 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, we might be on the something. 371 00:19:32,319 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, that could be a lot of fun doing it 372 00:19:35,039 --> 00:19:41,160 that way. Interesting, But you incorporate more than mechanics and 373 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:42,920 into your lessons. 374 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:44,119 Speaker 1: Yeah. 375 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:46,920 Speaker 2: Well, and well we talked about flexibility already. 376 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:53,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. Probably my biggest the thing that makes me one 377 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:57,240 thing that I learned to do through making mistakes myself. 378 00:19:57,359 --> 00:19:59,440 I had a lot of golf lessons where people tried 379 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:02,640 to change my golf club while it was moving, meaning 380 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:05,319 it had to get more inside or more outside, or 381 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:08,759 how the toll had to go up, or And my 382 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:12,640 belief on the golf swing is that anything that you 383 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:15,839 want to change has to be changed standing still. It's 384 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:17,400 it's broken before you move it. 385 00:20:18,599 --> 00:20:25,079 Speaker 2: Oh, thank you. I love this idea because the golf 386 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:27,559 swing is so fast, there's so much going on that 387 00:20:28,039 --> 00:20:33,400 it is so hard to be conscious of every nuance 388 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:35,640 that's going on while the club is being swung. 389 00:20:36,599 --> 00:20:39,039 Speaker 1: I totally agree. So if you can, if you can 390 00:20:39,079 --> 00:20:43,000 handle being a little bit uncomfortable at the start, because 391 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:44,759 we had to change the way you were standing or 392 00:20:44,799 --> 00:20:47,279 the way you were holding the golf club in order 393 00:20:47,319 --> 00:20:50,799 to get you to swing differently then you can handle 394 00:20:50,839 --> 00:20:54,920 a lesson with me. But it's amazing how much you 395 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:59,759 can change where someone's golf club goes or how it 396 00:20:59,799 --> 00:21:03,920 moved around their body, just simply by changing how they 397 00:21:04,599 --> 00:21:08,400 hold the club and set up to the ball. 398 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:10,680 Speaker 2: Right, I mean, isn't that the easiest thing to correct 399 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:13,400 for you, I would think is the position, grip, alignment, 400 00:21:13,599 --> 00:21:16,039 the PGA part of you know, just your setup. 401 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:20,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and that's not easy. A lot of people 402 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,079 just get the alignment part wrong all the time. 403 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:22,599 Speaker 2: Mm hmm. 404 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:24,920 Speaker 1: Tough to know where you're going if you can't get 405 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:25,559 lined up to it. 406 00:21:25,759 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 3: Mm hmm. 407 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:26,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. 408 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:28,880 Speaker 2: Well, and I don't think they understand the concept of 409 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:33,319 target golf or aiming at something. They're just they're just 410 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:35,759 their focus is hitting the ball, not where the ball 411 00:21:35,839 --> 00:21:36,160 is going. 412 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, we have a challenge with all my students. 413 00:21:39,799 --> 00:21:42,000 All my students get this. This is the first thing 414 00:21:42,039 --> 00:21:43,799 to hear on the teaching ta. If we took a 415 00:21:43,799 --> 00:21:46,319 picture of you down the line and out in the 416 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:48,960 front and you set up to the golf ball. So 417 00:21:49,039 --> 00:21:50,839 you set up, and we take a picture from the 418 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:54,039 side and from the back, and then you go home 419 00:21:54,079 --> 00:21:55,920 and then you come back today and you set up 420 00:21:55,960 --> 00:22:00,279 again a day later to hit a golf ball, you 421 00:22:00,319 --> 00:22:03,039 get one hundred thousand dollars. If you set up exactly 422 00:22:03,079 --> 00:22:07,400 the same way two days in a row, how would 423 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:09,359 you do it? What would you measure yourself off of? 424 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:12,240 They all start figuring out that the target's pretty important 425 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:15,359 after that and lining up square to it, because you 426 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:17,599 can do that every day, day in and day out. 427 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:30,039 Speaker 2: Clearly your incentive as a teacher is financial reward. You 428 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:33,559 always like, I'll give you one hundred thousand dollars. 429 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 1: I might have an imaginary gambling problem. 430 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 2: Hey that's better than having an actual game. 431 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I just try to get people's attention. I use 432 00:22:44,279 --> 00:22:46,400 it all the time. I'm like, if someone called you up, 433 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:48,519 we use hockey up here. You guys would probably use 434 00:22:48,559 --> 00:22:50,000 football or something down there. 435 00:22:49,839 --> 00:22:52,759 Speaker 2: But you use hockey for everything we said. 436 00:22:52,839 --> 00:22:54,599 Speaker 1: You know, I always tell them you just got called 437 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,240 up to the to the Calgary Flames halftime show and 438 00:22:57,599 --> 00:23:00,119 you got to hit a perfectly straight shot. What are 439 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,039 you gonna do? You're gonna line up like this, right? 440 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 2: So yeah, I'll tell you my dirty Canadian joke after 441 00:23:07,039 --> 00:23:07,920 we're done recording. 442 00:23:08,319 --> 00:23:08,880 Speaker 1: Okay, So. 443 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:17,680 Speaker 2: Do you have to or do you think it's appropriate 444 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:22,400 to warn your students before you start the lesson that 445 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:26,240 look the changes that we make today, and I've looked 446 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:27,559 at a couple of your swings, and we're going to 447 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:31,279 make some changes. Your game is going to digress before 448 00:23:31,279 --> 00:23:36,920 it progresses. And because you know when you talk to people, 449 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,079 I had a lesson last week and my game has 450 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:42,240 completely fallen apart since then. I'm so frustrated. Well, it's like, 451 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:44,680 but if you stay with what they taught you, you 452 00:23:44,759 --> 00:23:47,680 will improve. It's just going to take some time. And 453 00:23:47,759 --> 00:23:50,599 you know, we have so many examples on the tour 454 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:54,680 of guys who are are tinkering and tinkering with their 455 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:58,640 swings and it doesn't work immediately. 456 00:24:00,799 --> 00:24:03,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, it should. It should get them, it should improve, 457 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,240 you know what. So those are PGA tour players. These 458 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,720 are the best players in the world. That's not that's 459 00:24:08,759 --> 00:24:10,839 not the massive of people who land up on the 460 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:16,079 teaching team in front of me. And you know, it's 461 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:19,000 easy for them to struggle because they are so good. 462 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:22,640 Most of the people that I see when you're you know, 463 00:24:22,759 --> 00:24:27,799 let's say you're anywhere from a a twenty handicap down 464 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:32,000 to a five handicap or or even up to a thirty. 465 00:24:33,519 --> 00:24:36,039 When you make some good and changes in your golfing, 466 00:24:38,279 --> 00:24:41,000 sure you might struggle. But my what I find my 467 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:43,359 favorite struggle for my students is they all come in 468 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,359 and say, man, I shot so high, I flew it 469 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,799 over every green. I used to play a cot, now 470 00:24:47,839 --> 00:24:51,599 I'm playing a dry I have no idea where to aim, 471 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,799 and I'm hitting the ball way further. Well, that's that's 472 00:24:54,839 --> 00:24:56,000 a pretty good complaint. 473 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:59,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's great. Stop keeping score for a while. 474 00:24:59,759 --> 00:25:01,599 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's you know what, it's going to take 475 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:03,200 a little time to get used to that. And I 476 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:06,440 think that if everybody said, here's my issue in golf, 477 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:08,839 you know, like the typical one. I cut the golf 478 00:25:08,839 --> 00:25:11,440 ball and I don't hit it very far. Okay, so 479 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,400 we start getting you to draw the golf ball and 480 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,720 you hit it forty yards further. With everything, the next 481 00:25:17,839 --> 00:25:19,119 round of golf is going to be one of the 482 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:23,839 hardest rounds of golf you've ever played. Right, everything's fixed, 483 00:25:23,839 --> 00:25:28,880 and you're you're dying out there, and you just have 484 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,440 to learn to play the game in a new way. 485 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,480 But that's the exciting thing is that you start looking 486 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:37,759 at it and it's it completely changes it, and it 487 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,680 changes it for people and they get excited and get 488 00:25:40,759 --> 00:25:43,400 rolling it. That's so much fun. 489 00:25:44,079 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 2: And again it's a situation where you need to get 490 00:25:46,799 --> 00:25:50,359 rid of the scorecard and just treat it as a 491 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,720 practice round and not a you know, scoring round, because 492 00:25:53,799 --> 00:25:58,319 you've got new things going on. So don't hurt yourself 493 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:00,440 doing that, because you'll really get upset with yourself. 494 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:04,759 Speaker 1: Well, or just have a fun short game day rescuing yourself. 495 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:12,519 Speaker 2: Yeah right, right, yeah, it's it seems so entertaining in 496 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:19,720 some ways that people aren't really sure of the distances 497 00:26:19,759 --> 00:26:21,880 of their clubs, or even if they are, they think 498 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:25,319 they're sure the distances of their clubs. Say they hit 499 00:26:25,519 --> 00:26:27,960 let's say they hit their six iron one hundred and 500 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:31,279 eighty yards, but one time they hit it one hundred 501 00:26:31,279 --> 00:26:34,000 and ninety five, and now they're thinking, well, if I 502 00:26:34,079 --> 00:26:35,920 hit it perfectly, I'm going to hit it one hundred 503 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,160 and ninety five. And what happens They come up short. 504 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:38,960 Most of the time. 505 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,880 Speaker 1: There's when I give you the thousand dollars bad or 506 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,519 one thousand dollars, which club would you pull out right 507 00:26:46,559 --> 00:26:48,440 now to hit that green? Yeah? 508 00:26:48,559 --> 00:26:51,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, And then and then part of that question you 509 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:54,319 had was and how hard would you swing? What kind 510 00:26:54,319 --> 00:26:55,559 of response do you get to that? 511 00:26:57,279 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 1: It's a tough one for people, right, they all come 512 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:01,400 back and they go, oh my god, you know I 513 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,960 I swing a hundred I swing over one hundred percent 514 00:27:05,039 --> 00:27:09,519 and everything if there is over one hundred percent, you know, 515 00:27:11,519 --> 00:27:13,160 I don't know. I look at it. I look at 516 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:18,519 any any professional athlete finds their sport easy, and. 517 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,599 Speaker 2: Then they become teachers and don't understand people who can't, 518 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:23,359 who don't get well. 519 00:27:24,319 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 1: Well. But see, that's that's my My job is to 520 00:27:28,039 --> 00:27:30,839 make the game is how fast can I make the 521 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:34,880 game easy for people? It's great? How how fast can 522 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,599 I get you to a stage where you go, man, 523 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:39,559 this is just a lot simpler than I used to 524 00:27:39,559 --> 00:27:41,559 think it was. I used to make it so difficult, 525 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:43,240 and it was me, you know, it was me making 526 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,319 it difficult. And now I know what I'm supposed to do, 527 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:48,119 and I know what I'm practicing, and i just got 528 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:49,920 to go do it a bunch of times and I'm 529 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:51,720 going to get I'm going to enjoy the game a 530 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:52,160 lot more. 531 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. 532 00:27:53,559 --> 00:27:57,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, So once it becomes easy, then then the game changes. 533 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,240 Speaker 2: When does it get easy? 534 00:28:03,839 --> 00:28:07,359 Speaker 1: That's your decision. That's up to you. You can make 535 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,119 it easy right now. There's a lot of people who 536 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,039 make it tough. There's a lot of people who have 537 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:13,079 the tools in the bag right now, they and they 538 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,480 just make it tough because they make everything in life tough. 539 00:28:15,519 --> 00:28:20,079 They just can't. They just can't seem to say, is 540 00:28:20,279 --> 00:28:22,160 this is good the way I'm doing. I like it. 541 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:25,359 I like what I'm doing. Always I gotta do better. 542 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,920 I gotta do better. There's something that baffles me on 543 00:28:29,079 --> 00:28:32,799 in golf that people think they've always continually got to 544 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:36,759 change their golf swing. I don't. I don't know any 545 00:28:36,799 --> 00:28:39,640 hockey player who's ever changed the way they shot the 546 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:44,279 puck over over their career. I don't know any basketball 547 00:28:44,279 --> 00:28:47,200 player who change how they shoot. I don't know any 548 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,759 football player who changes how they throw the ball. 549 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,359 Speaker 2: They tweak, they tweak, they work with coaches, they tweak. 550 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:57,759 But you're right, making making major blanket changes on things 551 00:28:57,839 --> 00:29:00,000 like that, that's that seems unique to golf. 552 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 1: If you're right, we got a situation in the world 553 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:06,200 of golf right now that might might be because of that. 554 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:10,240 You might maybe when you're number one, you're just supposed 555 00:29:10,279 --> 00:29:13,119 to say I can just practice this more and get 556 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:17,599 better at what I do already, don't You don't have 557 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:19,759 to change it. 558 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,319 Speaker 2: Do you get the sense that more golfers want to 559 00:29:22,319 --> 00:29:24,599 be good golfers versus being happy golfers? 560 00:29:30,799 --> 00:29:33,519 Speaker 1: I think that if you want to be what it 561 00:29:33,559 --> 00:29:34,960 depends on what good is for you. 562 00:29:35,359 --> 00:29:37,599 Speaker 2: Well, I've seen a lot of good golfers that are 563 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:41,359 not happy. It's like, because the basic nature of golf 564 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:42,759 is I can do be better. I can be better. 565 00:29:42,799 --> 00:29:45,359 I can do this better. I know I can, right, 566 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,599 And so they're frustrated, they're angy, and you know, you 567 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,079 guys who you have guys who are fifteen to eighteen 568 00:29:51,079 --> 00:29:54,200 handicaps that play with somebody who's a nine and they're like, 569 00:29:54,279 --> 00:29:56,640 oh my god, I fight You're so good and the 570 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,039 nine is going, oh I missed that shot. You know. 571 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:03,079 It's do you ever get happy when you're playing golf? 572 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:07,039 Speaker 1: What is that? Is that a human nature thing or 573 00:30:07,079 --> 00:30:07,640 a golf thing? 574 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:13,599 Speaker 2: Well, isn't golf like life in so many ways? That 575 00:30:14,119 --> 00:30:17,839 to me, the major similarity between golf and life is 576 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,279 how you handle the problems right. 577 00:30:20,599 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 1: And and that's that's why, because both. 578 00:30:23,279 --> 00:30:25,720 Speaker 2: Life and golf gives you lots of crap to deal with. 579 00:30:26,119 --> 00:30:29,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, when I hire, my favorite interview process for a 580 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:32,039 job when I hire new staff is to take people 581 00:30:32,039 --> 00:30:34,480 for nine holes. I don't I don't need to ask 582 00:30:34,519 --> 00:30:36,039 you a whole bunch of questions. I just need to 583 00:30:36,079 --> 00:30:38,160 see how you handle yourself on a golf course. 584 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:42,039 Speaker 2: Nothing exposes a person's character faster than a round of golf. 585 00:30:42,599 --> 00:30:46,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so true. You know, so if people aren't happy, 586 00:30:48,559 --> 00:30:51,039 I mean we run into those people everywhere. They're in business, 587 00:30:51,039 --> 00:30:55,240 they're they're in there in life, they're in friendships, they're everywhere. 588 00:30:55,279 --> 00:30:58,200 That just there's just nothing that that. You know, they 589 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:02,079 can't make enough money, their house is never big enough there, 590 00:31:02,279 --> 00:31:04,240 you know, and that's and then they do the same 591 00:31:04,279 --> 00:31:06,039 in golf. And it was man, life show would be 592 00:31:06,079 --> 00:31:09,960 easier if you're like, man, I'm pretty good at just 593 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,240 about everything. If you could just look at yourself and say, 594 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:13,119 I'm pretty good. 595 00:31:14,599 --> 00:31:18,079 Speaker 2: And I'm satisfied, I'm happy. Yeah, it works for me. 596 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,359 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, once everyone's figured that out, I think we 597 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:22,480 got life figured out. 598 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:24,319 Speaker 2: That ain't gonna happen. 599 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,839 Speaker 1: No, I'm living you, Yeah. 600 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:37,279 Speaker 2: That ain't gonna happen In twenty fourteen. Congratulations, you were 601 00:31:37,359 --> 00:31:41,240 named the Alberta Teacher of the Year. That's yeah, you 602 00:31:41,279 --> 00:31:45,799 should be very pleased and honored by that. And you 603 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,599 said that again in a letter to me, you said, 604 00:31:48,599 --> 00:31:52,279 the game is given, taught and transform many of my beliefs, 605 00:31:52,319 --> 00:31:55,960 thoughts and values that I have in my life. Let's 606 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:57,359 talk about that for a minute. 607 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:01,720 Speaker 1: I don't know, Well, what. 608 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:06,400 Speaker 2: Is it that golf has taught you that it has 609 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,079 transformed many of your beliefs and your thoughts and your 610 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:13,680 values that you approach, that you change in the way 611 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:14,759 you deal with your life. 612 00:32:14,799 --> 00:32:18,160 Speaker 1: Now, well, some of the things that that we've even 613 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,200 just talked about, just you know, when is enough enough? 614 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:24,599 When are you satisfied? That's the thirty thousand foot view 615 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:29,920 of you know. I remember when I played on tour. 616 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,720 I mean, you know, you'd shoot a sixty five and 617 00:32:32,759 --> 00:32:34,480 you come off the course and you could say, yeah, 618 00:32:34,519 --> 00:32:36,440 but I could have shot a sixty two. There was 619 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:38,759 those three shots that I did. You know, I missed it, 620 00:32:38,839 --> 00:32:41,759 but yeah, yeah, and you got to be at this 621 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,160 stage and you know, and I when I was when 622 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,519 I played on tour, there was also the opposite. I'd 623 00:32:46,519 --> 00:32:49,319 shoot seventy five and couldn't sleep either because I just 624 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,599 I was so angry that I wasn't going to make 625 00:32:51,599 --> 00:32:54,920 the cut, and it was you know, and you just 626 00:32:55,039 --> 00:32:58,680 have to realize that it is. It just is what 627 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,440 it is. And you know, sometimes if you can look 628 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,920 at a seventy five or a difficult situation and say, 629 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:08,079 you know, here's an opportunity to turn it around now 630 00:33:09,039 --> 00:33:13,160 and do something great with it. Have a great attitude, 631 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,559 and see if you can make something great of something 632 00:33:15,599 --> 00:33:22,160 maybe that isn't that feels not so great, or even 633 00:33:22,799 --> 00:33:26,720 adding to something that is already great, like shooting is 634 00:33:26,759 --> 00:33:30,440 sixty five and shooting another one. Yeah, so I guess 635 00:33:30,519 --> 00:33:35,279 you know, from my perspective, it's it's been. It gives 636 00:33:35,319 --> 00:33:37,880 me just on little things everything in life. It's so 637 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:41,640 easy to get swallowed up by kids and work and 638 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:44,920 all your commitments that go on in our lives and 639 00:33:45,079 --> 00:33:47,000 oh my god, and I you know, I can't, I 640 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:51,319 can't keep up. And sometimes we forget that, you know, 641 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:55,599 it is okay, everything's good, and just focus on the fairway. 642 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,279 Quit thinking about the trees, and quit worrying about the water, 643 00:33:58,359 --> 00:34:01,559 and quit worrying about worry about money, and quit worrying 644 00:34:01,559 --> 00:34:05,920 about these things. Those things will come and just try 645 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:09,119 to focus on and enjoying yourself strolling down the middle. 646 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:14,039 Speaker 2: How are you able to teach golfers to not worry 647 00:34:14,039 --> 00:34:17,519 about history in this sense that when you said stop 648 00:34:17,599 --> 00:34:20,119 worrying about this tree, stop worrying about the water, It's like, 649 00:34:20,199 --> 00:34:22,320 you know, oh, every time I play this course, I 650 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:24,760 hit the ball in the water. It's like, yeah, but 651 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,400 that's not relevant to your next shot? Is it? 652 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:32,519 Speaker 1: Being able to let go is a serious skill? Again? 653 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,599 That's why I go back to that silly thousand dollars question. 654 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,960 You know, if I stand you there and I bounce 655 00:34:40,039 --> 00:34:42,480 that question off you again, I'm like, say, like, you 656 00:34:42,519 --> 00:34:45,800 get a thousand bucks, why don't you forget about the water. Like, seriously, 657 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:47,800 if someone was really going to give you a thousand 658 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:49,599 bucks to hit the green, would you be sitting here 659 00:34:49,639 --> 00:34:51,280 going on, I'm going to hit in the water again, 660 00:34:53,679 --> 00:34:54,800 and it's really hard, you. 661 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:58,599 Speaker 2: Know, I think, yeah, but I actually think that people 662 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,719 would even that kind of pressure. I'll give you a 663 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:06,800 thousand bucks, which is not necessarily a positive question. I 664 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,559 can see that being a tremendous amount of pressure adds 665 00:35:09,599 --> 00:35:13,119 a lot of tension, adds a lot of you makes 666 00:35:14,079 --> 00:35:16,679 makes the water bigger, makes your hand squeeze tighter, make 667 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,719 your shoulders go up even higher. You know it's not 668 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:23,559 a relaxed, loose, easy swing. Then there's a lot of 669 00:35:23,599 --> 00:35:24,480 tension behind that. 670 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,760 Speaker 1: Well, if you know how to gamble, it is. 671 00:35:33,639 --> 00:35:36,079 Speaker 2: I had a clubmaker. I had a clubmaker who once 672 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,800 made me fill out one hundred and ten question survey 673 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:43,159 before he would discuss making clubs for me. And one 674 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,840 of the questions was do you bet when you play golf? 675 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:49,920 And I said, no, I don't. I don't find gambling entertaining. 676 00:35:50,159 --> 00:35:52,519 And he said, you don't gamble when you play golf. 677 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:53,760 Why do you play. 678 00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:59,679 Speaker 1: That? Now that might be a problem on the other side. 679 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:05,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, this guy wants to take your money exactly. 680 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,000 Speaker 1: I don't bet either. I'm just learning. But if you 681 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:09,039 want to bet, I will know. 682 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:14,039 Speaker 2: And to me, it's more score scorecard watching than anything. 683 00:36:14,079 --> 00:36:16,119 And it's that's what I don't want to do when 684 00:36:16,119 --> 00:36:17,920 I'm playing, is keep looking at the scorecard. 685 00:36:19,039 --> 00:36:22,599 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, And we're just just commenting on on 686 00:36:22,679 --> 00:36:26,239 how do you how do you you know? Uh, just 687 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,639 when somebody if you did say a thousand dollars question 688 00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:30,719 with the water, it can work in reverse. As well. 689 00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:32,519 And I think I think that's the key is we 690 00:36:32,559 --> 00:36:38,119 all have to figure out how to live with ourselves 691 00:36:38,199 --> 00:36:44,079 or compete against ourselves and and and succeed. You know, 692 00:36:44,199 --> 00:36:45,920 That's the key is we have to be able to 693 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:52,599 That's really all we're playing against. Is my thinking going 694 00:36:52,679 --> 00:36:55,800 to take me in a negative direction today or a 695 00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:56,519 positive one? 696 00:36:58,039 --> 00:37:01,199 Speaker 2: Interesting? So is my thinking said or is it working 697 00:37:01,199 --> 00:37:01,719 against me? 698 00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:06,719 Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, And I think that I don't know. I 699 00:37:07,079 --> 00:37:09,119 get a chance to golf with a lot of different people, 700 00:37:09,159 --> 00:37:11,760 and I've golfed with some guys who are pretty good golfers, 701 00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:15,239 and you know, they're they go crazy on the golf course, 702 00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:18,800 throwing golf clubs and to the point where I'm like, man, 703 00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:20,519 I don't I got to say something because I don't 704 00:37:20,519 --> 00:37:21,800 want to get hit with a golf club. 705 00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,719 Speaker 2: You know, Well, the first lesson there is stand behind 706 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:28,280 the other guy. 707 00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:33,360 Speaker 1: And I guess I I abuse my position in golf 708 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:36,039 a little bit on those scenarios. And I just I 709 00:37:36,079 --> 00:37:38,000 asked them, I said, what are you getting so angry for? 710 00:37:38,119 --> 00:37:41,440 I mean, really, you're you're playing at the level that 711 00:37:42,599 --> 00:37:46,400 you're you that's pretty good for you. I can't play 712 00:37:46,559 --> 00:37:49,920 like me or like a PGA Tour player, So why 713 00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:51,800 are you trying to get mad when you don't hit 714 00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:52,599 a shot like one? 715 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,719 Speaker 2: I actually got an email from a listener ones who 716 00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:58,519 said that his dad used to say to him when 717 00:37:58,519 --> 00:38:00,960 he was a kid, you know, and he was a 718 00:38:01,039 --> 00:38:03,960 hot headed kid, and he would regularly throw his clubs 719 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:05,960 and his dad said, you're not good enough to throw 720 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:06,719 your clubs yet. 721 00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:12,559 Speaker 1: Right, that's right. I love I do too. Yeah. 722 00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,599 Speaker 2: Golf Performancecanada dot com. 723 00:38:15,519 --> 00:38:16,000 Speaker 1: That's right. 724 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:17,840 Speaker 2: Okay, make sure. 725 00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:19,719 Speaker 1: We're gonna have lots of golf tips coming up there 726 00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:23,039 too this year. Well, one thing we know today with 727 00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:27,639 the track man that when people swing a golf club, 728 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:32,000 we talk about swing path and club face angle. And 729 00:38:32,039 --> 00:38:34,480 I ask people all the time, if your face points 730 00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:36,599 over here and your path goes over there, where's your 731 00:38:36,639 --> 00:38:39,599 ball end up? And people are pretty sharp when you 732 00:38:39,599 --> 00:38:41,840 ask him that question. They always tell me that the 733 00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,920 golf ball basically follows the face, which is the truth. 734 00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,440 So wherever your ball goes, it's because that's where your 735 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:50,400 face is pointing at the moment of impact. 736 00:38:50,559 --> 00:38:52,239 Speaker 2: Club face, not your face. 737 00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:57,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, clubface. Yeah. So what happens when people are 738 00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:02,119 swinging is they don't realize that when they get to impact, 739 00:39:02,119 --> 00:39:05,440 the faces either open or closed, or very rarely is 740 00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:08,599 it square. And I find that the best way that 741 00:39:08,679 --> 00:39:12,159 people can influence their club face because it's a seventy 742 00:39:12,199 --> 00:39:14,719 five percent influence on the ball. The path of the 743 00:39:15,119 --> 00:39:19,519 golf club influences the ball twenty five percent, and the 744 00:39:19,519 --> 00:39:22,199 face of the golf club set is seventy five percent. 745 00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,280 So the best way that you can make an impact 746 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:27,199 on your game is to actually work on your grip. 747 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,400 My saying that I always say is if you're not 748 00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,480 working on your grip, you're not working on your game. 749 00:39:33,199 --> 00:39:35,079 So what I want to do is try to give 750 00:39:35,119 --> 00:39:37,920 you some sort of idea of what we can do 751 00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:41,159 in the left hand. So in the left hand, what 752 00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:43,239 happens with a lot of people, so this is their 753 00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:48,400 top hand, what happens to a lot of people is 754 00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:50,960 they get the golf club too diagonal in their hand 755 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:54,039 this way, and what they need to do is get 756 00:39:54,039 --> 00:39:57,760 the golf club running more across their knuckles this way 757 00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,599 so that it's deeper in their hand. You want to 758 00:40:00,599 --> 00:40:02,440 be able to hold it with this pinky back here 759 00:40:03,039 --> 00:40:05,559 and then that gets on this way. So if I 760 00:40:05,599 --> 00:40:07,639 actually turn that this way for you to have a 761 00:40:07,679 --> 00:40:12,000 look at my hand gets turned over so that there's 762 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:15,239 a bit of a bend in the wrist here as well. Okay, 763 00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,119 so that's in my left hand. I always want to 764 00:40:18,159 --> 00:40:19,679 do that. The other way I can think of it 765 00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,119 is I want to put the toe of the golf 766 00:40:22,119 --> 00:40:26,400 club up this way, so when I'm holding it, I 767 00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:29,599 want to feel like I'm grabbing a motorcycle grip, like 768 00:40:29,679 --> 00:40:33,360 I'm going to race the motorcycle. And then what that 769 00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:35,280 should do when I hold the golf club is I 770 00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:38,199 actually turn the glub face down a little bit and 771 00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:41,840 close the face. So the big deal is getting the 772 00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:45,079 golf club deeper in your hand, running more across your knuckles. 773 00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:47,760 One other way you can think of it is how 774 00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:49,559 do you hold it? If someone brought you the golf 775 00:40:49,599 --> 00:40:52,599 club this way? How do you hold it? You just 776 00:40:52,639 --> 00:40:55,079 grab it in here and it goes right across your knuckles. 777 00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:57,400 So you can see how it goes across my knuckles 778 00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:00,400 this way, And that's how you want to grip it. Lefetime, 779 00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:02,639 you want to get it more across your knuckles, less 780 00:41:02,639 --> 00:41:06,119 diagonal in your hand, clay around with your grip, make 781 00:41:06,159 --> 00:41:09,360 it either close or open and watch what happens with 782 00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:09,960 your golf ball. 783 00:41:12,519 --> 00:41:17,840 Speaker 2: Awesome. That was an amazing tip and the video is 784 00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:22,039 so important on that. So people are just listening from 785 00:41:22,039 --> 00:41:25,159 this one, you've got to go check out on golf 786 00:41:25,199 --> 00:41:29,320 Smarter TV the YouTube channel so you can see what 787 00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:32,119 he just explained because it's going to have an impact 788 00:41:32,159 --> 00:41:35,159 on the results of your ball flight and your swing. 789 00:41:36,159 --> 00:41:36,559 Speaker 1: Awesome. 790 00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:38,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's great, Garrett, thanks so much, Buddy. 791 00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:41,000 Speaker 1: Hey, thank you, bred I appreciate it.