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you were scared obviously because things were opening, But it

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didn't have the same feeling as Rex.

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Speaker 2: Rex was like he brought a terrifying.

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Speaker 3: Feeling of vigilan and abandoned well. A hidden rosary and

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two entities known only as Charles and Rex became part

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of one family's everyday life. The deeper this story goes,

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the dark grade becomes. My name is Edwin and he

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is Crystal. It's true scary story.

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Speaker 1: From the young age of about five years old, I

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remember I started experiencing things.

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Speaker 2: The first occurrence, I would say.

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Speaker 1: That I was playing hide and seek with my big

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brother and my big sister. We'd like to play hide

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and seek with like only a few of the lights

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on in the house.

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Speaker 2: At the end of our hallway, there was like a

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linen closet. In the linen closet, there were these two.

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Speaker 1: Doors that you could open at the bottom. I squeezed

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in there and that's where I was hiding. And it

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had been a while since my big brother and my

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big sister had come to find me, so I just figured, okay, guys,

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you can't find me. So I'm going to come out.

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And I remember when I opened up the linen closet

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in the hallway, there were what I can only describe

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was white voting apparitions.

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Speaker 2: They didn't have a form.

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Speaker 1: It was like if somebody took like a squiggly and

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just scribbled a line and that was.

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Speaker 2: What you're seeing.

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Speaker 1: But it was very fuzzy looking, and there were three

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of them, probably about six to seven feet in front

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of the cupboard, moving.

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Speaker 2: Back and forth in through the hallway.

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Speaker 1: At that age, I wasn't scared, so to me, it

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was more of a curiosity of trying to.

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Speaker 2: Figure out, like what am I looking at.

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Speaker 1: I just remember being really curious, and so when I

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stepped out of the cupboard, I remember these three apparitions

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just kind of all came next to one another and as.

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Speaker 2: If they were like looking at me, watching me come

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out of the cupboard. About that time, my brother.

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I didn't think much of it because it just didn't

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scare me.

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Speaker 2: I don't even remember if I told him or not.

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Speaker 1: Later on, in that house, in our basement, in order

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to get there, you would have to go through the garage,

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and then go down these steps, and I remember I

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had a pair of tap dancing shoes that I absolutely

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love to play with, but the only place that you

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would get the best sound was on the basement floor

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because he can concrete.

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Speaker 2: And in the Midwest wintertime, there's no way outside and

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tap dancing it's just too cold.

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Speaker 1: I also remember that my dad absolutely hated as one

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of the tap dancing.

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Speaker 2: So I would go to the bottom of.

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if I wanted to play as tap dance, you would

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turn on the basement light, but that basement light only

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illuminated six to eight feet in each direction, as if

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like a spotlight were right above you. I always felt

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like something was watching me, and that was something that

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was a.

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Speaker 2: New feeling for me being that young.

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Speaker 1: I would try to tap dance for a while and

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try to ignore it, and they just finally got to

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the point that it was really uncomfortable, so I would

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go back up the stairs. I do remember also in

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that same basement my parents had created like a playroom

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for us. I think it might've just been like an

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older closet or something that had a window on it,

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because it wasn't very big. I mean it was like

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maybe eight feet by eight feet.

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Speaker 2: I would go in there.

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Speaker 1: In the daytime and play very seldomly because when I

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would be down there, you know, i'd be playing with

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my barbies or my toys, and I remember that I

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would always hear like a woman talking. I would pick

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my head around the corner, or I'd yell from my mom

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and like, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Mom, what do you want? And my mom would never

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respond to me. I would just kind of ignore it.

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it would kind of I'd be playing and then I'd

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hear shuffling and I'd look over and it's like my

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dolls are.

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Speaker 2: Falling off the dollhouse, and.

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Speaker 1: So I'd get really scared and I would always go

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back down there.

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Speaker 2: But I think we finally put the nail in the coffin.

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that looked like one of those an eighties toy. It

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looked like a vacuum or a lawnmower. I'm not sure

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what it was supposed to be, but it had a

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bubble over it and had these little balls and when

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you pushed it and made like a noise, and I

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remember it was outside my play room and I was

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just in there playing quietly. I remember hearing it go off.

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I turned my head thinking.

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Speaker 2: Like, what the heck is going on.

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Speaker 1: I remember looking my head up and looking at the door,

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and then with in seconds that toy is going.

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Speaker 2: Past my Hay, I was done. I'm not going down

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there anymore.

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Speaker 1: Maybe a year or so after that, my mom and

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dad had had a divorce. My mom, brother, sister, and

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I had all moved into an apartment in Shiny, Kansas,

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Oregon Trail, the California Trail.

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Speaker 2: It's a lot of.

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Speaker 1: Like older history in the part of the town that

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we had moved into. The first apartment we lived in,

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my big sister, who's four years older than me, shared

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a room with me. My sister would leave out of

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town every other month for a month, and because she

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and I had different dads and he had partial custodys,

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Speaker 2: Gone for a month.

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Speaker 1: And and I remember in that bedroom to the closet,

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it was the sliding doors. They always scared me and

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I could never figure out why I scared you so much?

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had an experience with the closet to be afraid of it.

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you think of scary things, but I just had this really.

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Speaker 2: Bad feeling about the closet when we first looked in.

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Speaker 1: So it always made sure that the doors were shut.

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you know, were just starting all over. I remember that

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I would close them and then in the morning they

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would be open. I'd always wake up before my sister

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and I would always tell her, why did you open

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the closet door, And she say, I didn't open the

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closet door.

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Speaker 2: You did, and she would argue with me.

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Speaker 1: That happened a few times, but eventually, I remember I

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would start waking up in the.

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first time.

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Speaker 1: I remember peeking up and then looking at my sister's

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bed rope quick and seeing if it was her.

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Speaker 2: And she was dead asleep.

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Speaker 1: I remember looking and the closet doors opening, and I

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remember my heart was like in my throat. I was terrified.

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after my sister would go to her dad's. That's when

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things got really bad. The door would open and I

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could hear.

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Speaker 2: A woman humming or a woman singing, and then I

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would hear her events and say come in here with me.

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Speaker 1: I would get up and I'd run and jump on

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my mom's bed every single time, and my mom didn't

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really question it. My mom, my Nona, and my great

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Nonah have all experience these similar things where we've.

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Speaker 2: All seen things all throughout our lives.

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Speaker 1: Now, thinking back from the respect that my mom probably

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knew that I wasn't lying, but this was maybe something

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I was actually experiencing. My brother never experienced anything, my

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sister never experienced anything. Nonetheless, we live in that apartment

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for a little bit, but eventually my mom said, you know,

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we're gonna move to this other building in this complex,

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and that's when things really.

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Speaker 2: Started ampening up for me. So again, at this time.

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Speaker 1: My sister's gone out of state, and we have a

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bunk bed now in our bedroom, we have a bathroom,

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but to get to the bathroom, you have to go

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in between what I would consider like French doors. On

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each side. They have a closet on each side, and

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then you go to the bathroom. I remember I was

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woken up in the middle of the night because I

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heard like clanking on the side of my bunk bed

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and I was at the top like a clunking, like

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somebody grabbed it, because you know, there was a metal.

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Speaker 2: Bumpet, so it was squeaky when you could move on it.

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Speaker 1: I remember that I heard that, But then my bumpets

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started kind of shaking, as if somebody took the top

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rail and was like shaking it trying to wake me up.

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I thought it was my mom, so I just rolled

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over and when I opened my eyes, there was a

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man standing there. He was standing in closed that I

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can only describe as farmer working in the field clothing

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and he had like a wiquor hat on. I just

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remember thinking, like, is this a real person? There's somebody

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in my house, Like what's going on? Like all these

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thoughts are going through my head. I just kmemed being

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so terrified, and in that moment, he started speaking to

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me so rapidly. He seemed franted, like he needed to

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tell me something, but I couldn't understand him because he

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was speaking in another language, and I just remember like,

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go away, go away, go away. And I remember grabbing

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the blanket, pulling over my head. And I have this

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doll that I knew her Dolly, and my Grandma had

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made her for me, and she was Hi's possession. I

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really felt like Dolly protected me, so I'd put Dolly

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in front of my face. Eventually, somehow I got myself

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to fall back to sleep. This continued on for months,

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and I would see that same guy. I would see

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another woman who had come out with really long black hair.

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Speaker 2: She also looked like she had been working in the field. Again.

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Speaker 1: It's like she kept coming to my bunk bed and

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she was trying to have something frantic, but she would

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kind of like paste my room back and forth, back

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and forth, and then look up at me like are

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you listening. The guy scared me, but I would watch

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the woman, and I don't know if it's because like

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somehow she felt like she was someone's mom and so

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it didn't scare me as much. But I would watch

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the woman and I kept telling my mom what was

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going on, because I would eventually.

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Speaker 2: Always end up in her bed.

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Speaker 1: I remember also when my mom started eating my stepdad.

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He wasn't sure if I was making sorry, like, oh,

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this is just a story to not flow to bed,

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and he would always make me shut my door, and

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I always slept with my door cracked, and I would

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beg them and I would cry and I would stop

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for them, Please don't make me shut the bedroom door. Nonetheless,

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the bedroom door had in the pain shed, and those

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people would end up back the end of my bunk

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head and once again I'm going through the same thing I've.

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Speaker 2: Been going through for months.

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Speaker 1: Eventually, my mom was at the point where she would

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talk to me about it a lot, like what are

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Speaker 2: What are they saying?

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Speaker 1: And I would tell her to the best of my abilities,

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you know, being at the age of seven or eight,

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trying to explain to her, you know, what was going on.

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She brought me to hypnosis. I don't remember even going

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to hypnosis. I remember just waking up. I remember waking

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up and I'm on like a leather recliner. My mom's

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sitting there, and this woman's sitting there. I remember hearing saying, Okay,

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wake up now. I remember looking around, thinking.

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Speaker 2: Where am I.

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Speaker 1: The woman looks at my mom and she just tells

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my mom, Okay, so's these things that she's experiencing. They

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seem to honestly be something that she's truly ingrained in

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from mine from here on, you know, just go and

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check the closets with her, check the bathroom, check under

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the bed, sure that there's nothing there. That's all I

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really remember of the hypnosis moment. My mom would come

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back to the apartment and we would do this routine

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every single night, but it would never stop.

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Speaker 2: Essentially get to the point.

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Speaker 1: Where my mom and my stepdad get married and we

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move in with my stepdad to his house. I think

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at that point I was nine.

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Speaker 2: So we moved to his house.

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Speaker 1: And this house that we moved into is in Westport,

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and Westport is known for like the Battle of Gettysburg.

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There's a lot of rich history in Westport, you know.

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I know that now as an adult. Obviously as a

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kid I did. But we lived in this house and

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our house was built in.

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Speaker 2: Like eight eight.

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Speaker 1: The house had this huge circular furnace in the basement

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and at one point it was definitely fueled by pool.

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It had later been changed so that it was gassed

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and the walls in the basement were made of rocks.

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You'd go down and the rocks were like sticking out

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all different shapes and sizes, and it was a really

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low steel.

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Speaker 2: Every room you would go into would lead to another room.

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Speaker 1: So if you walked into the kitchen, you could go

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right and that would be a bedroom. But that bedroom

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was connected to another bedroom, which was then connected to

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the bathroom, and then the bathroom was connected, like every

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room in the house led to other doors. In the

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middle of the house was only one furnace. We had

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no other furnaces to the rest of the house, just

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this one furnace and you would walk across it in

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the dining room and it was like maybe two feet

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by two feet, and it was this big metal furnace

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that just covered this pool that went straight down and

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he would heat the whole house. So I remember when

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we first had lived there, we had a cat. We

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had lived there probably about a year or so, so

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maybe at this point I'm and his name was Gizmo.

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He was a brand new little guy, and he had

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just recently gotten neutered. He somehow found himself in the basement,

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and we only knew this because when we were in the.

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Speaker 2: Kitchen we could hear Gizmo crying.

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Speaker 1: We'd go in the basement trying to find him, but

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to find out that he went into this crawl space

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that was at the top of the wall and the

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opening was maybe two feet by three feet wide and

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no one knows what's in there. We would flash flashlights

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in there, but GisMo was like very far back. And

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the problem is that we then needed to get GisMo out.

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He had just been neutered, and it was dead of winter,

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and underneath in the area that he was at, it

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had a lot of drifting cold that came in there,

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and so we knew that if he stayed in there,

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he was likely going to die. My mom told me

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that I was the only one that could fit in there,

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and if I felt like I could do it.

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Speaker 2: Me being ten and you know, always the.

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Speaker 1: Adventure and fight the tomboy, I was like, I'll go

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get him, Like, yeah, I saved my cat and maybe

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this great hero. So I remember my mom gave me

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flashlights and she put a cross on my neck, and

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I thought that was kind of strange, but it kind

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of creaked me out at the same time. But nonetheless,

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I was going to go in and yo gic GisMo.

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So I crawled in there to go get Gizmo, and

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underneath there was vast He thought it was only going

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to go underneath the kitchen, but it seemed like it

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went under much more of a house than what we

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had realized. Whenever I'd get close to GisMo, he would

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kind of like foot off, and I don't know it

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was just because there's this bright flashlight coming towards him.

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Speaker 2: And he was scared and some pain. He's cold, but

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it was a hard time for me to catch him.

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Speaker 1: And I remember I finally caught him, and in there,

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the floor was only dirt and like walk and I

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could only just army crawl through it. That's how low

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it was. I finally grabbed him, and as I'm crawling

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and I kind of like turn around, my feet fall

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into what I consider a hole. And I remember panicking

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because my feet are into a hole. But then eventually

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I realized, like, and I'm still holding his mom so

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I don't want to let him go. But I remember

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I dropped the flashlight. I realized I could touch the ground,

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but it went to probably like my mids thigh, and

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I kept Gizmo under my arm and I called out,

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wrapped the slash light and I turned the flashlight back

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and I looked at the hole.

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Speaker 2: This hole had to be probably the sized.

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Speaker 1: Of like a kitchen table, like a circular kitchen table,

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and in the middle of it was a rosary, like

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an old, beat up, dusty, dirty rosary, right in the

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middle of it.

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Speaker 2: And I remember being like, oh, oh my god.

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Speaker 1: If anything ever scared me, that was the moment that

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I realized, like, I'm really scared. So I got gizmo,

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I got out. I told my mom about what had happened.

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Later on, my mom told my dad what had happened,

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and he was like, oh, yeah, there was a well

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down there.

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Speaker 2: They said, oh, you know, this house.

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Speaker 1: Was built overall well, but I highly doubt that there

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was a rosary.

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Speaker 2: Blah blah blah blah.

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Speaker 1: My dad was always a skeptic, my sister, my dad

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always skeptics.

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Speaker 2: They never believed anything, I would say.

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Speaker 1: A short time after that, I remember I was in

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my bedroom that was right off the kitchen, and I

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had my door open and I was, you know, doing

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a piece of art. I saw a man walk up.

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I only see feet, and I think, you know, that's

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my dad. My dad always wore penny loafers, and so

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you know, I'm not thinking anything of it. I think

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it's my dad. There's Penny Loafers right in front of me,

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right like I could touch him with my hand. And

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I'm telling my dad about the piece of art that

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I'm doing. Like minutes go by, and then.

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Speaker 2: He just walked away, and I'm like, wait, I want

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to finish telling you.

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Speaker 1: And I jump up and I go running around, you know,

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running into the kitchen, and I bump right into my mom.

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I go where Dad go, and she goes, Dad's not here.

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I just looked at her and I was like, yes,

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he was. He was standing in my doorway. And she

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just looked at me, wide eyed, and she was like, sweetie,

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he's not here. That is the beginning of who we

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called Charles. The reason we named him Charles was because

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when we were doing renovation on our house, some letters

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had came out of the wall where it was like

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a back and forth conversation. It looked like there was

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somebody's letter to Charles. And then the response from Charles

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was there too. We've come together that that man and

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woman kind of got married, and they had both had

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their letters and they kind of put them together and

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for whatever reason, they were in the wall, and the

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one that was from Charles to the woman.

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Speaker 2: He was very.

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Speaker 1: Kind in all his letters, and he seemed like a

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very gentleman. And I believe that those letters were like

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dated like nineteen twelve. There was a picture of them

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in there, and he looked like such a kind man.

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He looked very, very kind. So that was the we

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started naming this ghost spirit. We started naming him Charles.

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And so I remember there would be times where we

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would be putting away dishes and I would turn around

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with the dishes in my hand, going towards where I

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need to put them away, and the cupver door would

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just open, like here, let me help you, or the

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drawer to like the snowware would open, like let me

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help you. My mom and dad owned their own business

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growing up. They were very profitable djays at the time

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with Harry Oki, and they had like six people that

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worked for them, so they were stretched thin. And so

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from the age of like ten to eighteen, I was

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always alone in my house anywhere from five in the

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afternoon to probably like two or three in the morning.

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Speaker 2: This just became a normal appearance for me, Like I

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just thought this was life. And my big sister.

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Speaker 1: At this point, you know, she's deciding she wants to stay.

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Speaker 2: In Florida with her dad. I think the other's already

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moved out, so it's just me. So I've had every.

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Speaker 1: Bedroom in the house other than they added. That's where

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my mom and dad had. Their bedroom was in the attic,

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and the attic is shaped like the actual old school

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scary atticts where it's like shaped like a triangle.

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Speaker 2: That's like how their room was shaped.

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Speaker 1: In the room, you'd go up the stairs and then

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did a bedroom, but if you walked it around the staircase.

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Speaker 2: There was a wall with a door.

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Speaker 1: That went to like the unfinished attic, and I remember

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that I would have to go up there, and whenever

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i'd go up there to grab something, there was always

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this really evil feeling up there, like something was standing

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in the corner and watching me.

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Speaker 2: And whenever I'd walk up.

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Speaker 1: The stairs, I would feel this overwhelming feeling of not

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just hit me really hard. I would run down the

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stairs as fast as I could every single time. Eventually

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we started realizing that there were a few different entities.

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Speaker 2: In our home.

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Speaker 1: There was a man in the attic who was very,

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very scary and my mom would go to bed and

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sometimes alone because my dad would be working. And she

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said she would feel like she's getting pinned to the bed.

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She'd be wide awake and she's getting pinned to the bed,

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and she heard somebody speaking another.

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Speaker 2: Language right in her ear.

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Speaker 1: She said, this is sounded not Spanish, but it was

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like a very strong creel or language like that that

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she really couldn't pinpoint what it was and is what

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happened to her repeatedly.

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Speaker 2: She would also feel him push her and.

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Speaker 1: She would almost repeatedly fall down the stairs quite often.

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But that big man never left the attic. He stayed

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in the attic, and I remember when i'd go up there,

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I would always feel that feeling that there was something

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really evil up here, and it would scare me. But

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I remember that there was one time when I had

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to go to the other part of the attic because

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my mom told me she need me to.

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Speaker 2: Grab the Christmas rapport paper.

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Speaker 1: And I went through there, and before I could open

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the door, I heard a woman crying.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure if it was my mom.

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Speaker 1: I like kind of threw my head down over the

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railing and I was like, Mom, I was like, are

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you okay, and she's like yeah.

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Speaker 2: I was like, are you crying and she's like no,

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and I'm like okay.

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Speaker 1: And so I went back to the door.

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Speaker 4: And I can just hear a woman crying. No, I'm

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like making something up in my head. So I opened

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the door, and the crying kind of like.

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Speaker 1: It's there just for a few seconds, and then it stops.

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And I'm kind of like looking around trying to figure

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out where the crimes coming from. And for just a millisecond,

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I see a silhouette of a woman and she sees me,

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and she definitely looks very distraught and very upset, and

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then she's gone. I remember like ribing though puspaper and

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running down the stairs and telling my mom about it,

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because at this point now we're both experiencing things that

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we're telling each other everything that's happening. Now there was

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another entity and we named him Rex, and now Rex

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was literally the troublemaker of the house. Rex would do

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everything and anything to terrify you. A lot of times

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when I'd be home alone, I'd be in the living

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room and our house had just one long hallway, I

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guess is the best way to explain it. And I'm

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in a hallway. It's just there's the kitchen, there's the

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dining room, there's the living room, and then there's.

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Speaker 2: The front room. And it was just one long stream.

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Speaker 1: I remember I would sitting in the living room and

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I'd be watching TV. At this point, we had three dogs.

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Gizmo was still around. The Gizmo, you know, was nowhere

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in the house at that time. He was out indoor,

479
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:39,400
outdoor cat. It never failed that.

480
00:28:39,359 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 2: When I was home alone and I was watching TV

481
00:28:42,039 --> 00:28:43,119
in that front room.

482
00:28:43,279 --> 00:28:49,039
Speaker 1: That pans or whatever it was on the kitchen drying

483
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:53,559
rap would start being thrown off onto the floor and

484
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:55,759
my dogs would all start wailing.

485
00:28:55,839 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 2: They would all start barking.

486
00:28:57,279 --> 00:29:00,359
Speaker 1: They would go to the entranceway at the kitchen, start

487
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,480
barking in their hair to get all fluffed up. And

488
00:29:03,519 --> 00:29:07,480
I would grab the.

489
00:29:06,039 --> 00:29:07,519
Speaker 2: Pants and I'd put them back.

490
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 1: And I knew this wasn't Charles, because when Charles was around,

491
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,759
you were scared obviously if things were opening. But it

492
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:20,000
didn't have the same feeling as Rex. Rex was like

493
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:26,960
he brought a terrifying feeling which him this is like

494
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:30,279
an ongoing occurrence. Then if I were in the bathroom

495
00:29:30,319 --> 00:29:32,920
and I was home alone, the doorknobs would start shaking

496
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,519
on me, and they're old. They're like old, these old

497
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:39,400
brass metal doorknobs, and they would start shaking, and all

498
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:41,960
I can do is hear my dogs wailing and barking

499
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:43,920
in the other room, and I'm like, oh my god.

500
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,400
And at this point, you know, I'm about fifteen sixteen,

501
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,079
I'm just gonna leave. I'm gonna go to my friend's

502
00:29:48,079 --> 00:29:50,119
house down the street. And that's what I would typically do.

503
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,400
There was one time where I remember I was in

504
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,279
the shower. It was probably pretty late at night. I

505
00:30:01,279 --> 00:30:03,960
want to say it was probably eleven o'clock, and in

506
00:30:04,039 --> 00:30:07,680
our bathroom we had one of those old school iron

507
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:12,359
clawed bathtubs, and my dad had made it so it

508
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:16,000
had a shower on it. I kept my dogs in

509
00:30:16,079 --> 00:30:18,480
the bathroom with me when I was showering, like I

510
00:30:18,599 --> 00:30:19,240
was scared.

511
00:30:20,319 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 2: I remember, I'm just in there showering my business.

512
00:30:23,279 --> 00:30:25,799
Speaker 1: And I hear someone say my name. They go Cristal,

513
00:30:26,599 --> 00:30:30,359
and I open the curtains. Knowing I'm alone, I kind

514
00:30:30,359 --> 00:30:35,240
of look around and I go hello, and there's no response,

515
00:30:36,839 --> 00:30:39,240
and so I just go back to taking my shower.

516
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,359
And I would say, like a minute passed right from

517
00:30:43,519 --> 00:30:50,200
directly behind me. I hear someone go, and this time

518
00:30:50,519 --> 00:30:54,640
I like turn around and I'm facing this direction. So

519
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:59,119
I'm rinsing my hair out, and obviously when you rinse

520
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,880
your hair out, your clothes and I heard someone.

521
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 2: Go crystal right in front of me, and.

522
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:09,519
Speaker 1: I opened my eyes and there's a man standing right

523
00:31:09,559 --> 00:31:10,119
in front of me.

524
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,319
Speaker 2: It's like a flash that it happened. And I remember

525
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:19,119
just screaming. Just like in the movies, you fall out

526
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:19,440
of the.

527
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 1: Shower, the whole shower curtain combs down with you. My

528
00:31:23,319 --> 00:31:25,960
dogs are going crazy and all the lights in.

529
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 2: The house go off completely off. My dogs are going crazy.

530
00:31:33,119 --> 00:31:36,480
I'm trying to get myself out from underneath the shower curtain.

531
00:31:36,559 --> 00:31:38,640
This was before cell phones really.

532
00:31:38,359 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 1: That had like the flashlights on them and stuff.

533
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,559
Speaker 2: So I'm trying to like just grab his house.

534
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,279
Speaker 1: Then I have to like muster up this courage to

535
00:31:48,359 --> 00:31:52,920
be like, Okay, I'm gonna go downstairs and I'm gonna

536
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:54,039
turn on the circuit breaker.

537
00:31:55,279 --> 00:31:58,119
Speaker 2: But I'm terrifying.

538
00:31:58,519 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 1: I grab a flashlight and I tell my dogs that

539
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:02,519
they had to go down before me.

540
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 2: Need to go first.

541
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,279
Speaker 1: So I'm telling my dogs to go down first, and

542
00:32:08,839 --> 00:32:13,680
they're still like snarling and making noises, so I'm really scared.

543
00:32:13,839 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 2: But in order to get to the circuit breaker, I

544
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,079
had to go down the stairs, go around the furnace,

545
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:18,799
go around the.

546
00:32:18,839 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 1: Washroom dryer, and go all the way to the back

547
00:32:20,759 --> 00:32:23,440
of the basement to the far back corner and flip

548
00:32:23,519 --> 00:32:26,519
the switches. I'm down there with my dogs and I

549
00:32:26,559 --> 00:32:30,559
feel something pull at my towel and I remember just

550
00:32:30,599 --> 00:32:33,279
grabbing my towel and being like yelling, you need.

551
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 2: To stop and leave me alone, and then turn on

552
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:38,680
the circuit breakers, and all the lights in the house

553
00:32:38,759 --> 00:32:39,960
then end up coming back on.

554
00:32:40,599 --> 00:32:43,039
Speaker 1: At that point, I just remember getting my dogs, going

555
00:32:43,079 --> 00:32:45,519
to my bedroom and shutting my door, and I'm like,

556
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:46,079
that's it.

557
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 2: I'm done. I've had enough. I'm going to sleep.

558
00:32:52,279 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 1: There was also times in my bedroom where I would

559
00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:01,119
wake up and I because I can't breathe, and I

560
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:04,599
literally can feel fingers on my neck and I'm being strangled.

561
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,160
It's like I could feel the thumb in the fingers

562
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,960
around my neck and I go and I'm grasping to

563
00:33:12,079 --> 00:33:14,799
try to grab it off, and there's nothing to grab.

564
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 2: And I remember the only way that I could.

565
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,559
Speaker 1: Get it to stop, was like I would have to

566
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:25,480
like scream for God in my mind or say like

567
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:27,599
one of the prayers that my mom had taught me

568
00:33:28,319 --> 00:33:36,359
in my mind, and eventually it would go away. Shortly

569
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:42,559
after this, my mom had written into some paranormal investigators

570
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:46,920
and they decided that they really wanted to investigate our house.

571
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:52,839
They came, and when they came, they specifically told us

572
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:56,079
not to tell them what was inside the house because

573
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:59,359
they had a psyched a medium with them and they

574
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:03,039
wanted to know if what we were experiencing aligned with

575
00:34:03,119 --> 00:34:04,039
what she was saying.

576
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 2: Sure is enough, you know.

577
00:34:08,519 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 1: They come in with all their tools, their ghost box,

578
00:34:11,639 --> 00:34:17,400
the meters that can read things, no cameras, and sure enough,

579
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:21,320
the woman comes inside the psychic and she goes upstairs

580
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,679
and she said that there is a very large man

581
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:28,599
in this room and he is not good, and he

582
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,199
is standing in the corner and all he wants to

583
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:37,079
do is cause extreme harm to any woman. There's also

584
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,960
a woman in this house that has a baby, and

585
00:34:41,039 --> 00:34:44,920
she's terrified of that name, and she hides in that

586
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:48,880
part of the attic, which explains like why I heard crime.

587
00:34:50,079 --> 00:34:54,320
But then she tells us that there's many entities in

588
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:58,800
this back closet off of the kitchen, and that closet

589
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:02,559
was like four feet by four feet and the ceiling

590
00:35:02,639 --> 00:35:06,400
in there went probably like sixteen feet high. And she

591
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,159
said there are many many entities in that closet, but

592
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:10,519
many of them don't believe.

593
00:35:10,559 --> 00:35:12,679
Speaker 2: Because they hung themselves from that closet.

594
00:35:13,639 --> 00:35:15,840
Speaker 1: And then that there are two other men in this

595
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:19,719
house and there's one name. There's one man, and he's

596
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:23,039
not good. He likes to scare and terrorize you. And

597
00:35:23,079 --> 00:35:25,480
I can't remember what she said his name was. We

598
00:35:25,559 --> 00:35:28,199
named him Max, but she said, but there is another

599
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:31,199
man here who's very kind, intensal sould and.

600
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 2: She said in his was Charles.

601
00:35:35,199 --> 00:35:38,280
Speaker 1: My mom, and I remember just thinking like everything we

602
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:41,119
experienced is actually real, down to the tee, like the

603
00:35:41,199 --> 00:35:45,440
big man, Charles, this guy, the woman everything, and we

604
00:35:45,639 --> 00:35:48,320
just like are shocked and like did you.

605
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,519
Speaker 2: Tell them no? Did you tell them no?

606
00:35:51,079 --> 00:35:55,639
Speaker 1: Like it just seemed too spot on to like be like, okay,

607
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,960
they're lying. And I remember that they said that Rex

608
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:04,760
end up somehow dying in the house, and that he

609
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:08,639
liked to stay in my closet in my bedroom, and.

610
00:36:08,519 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 2: That he specifically liked to scare me the most. There

611
00:36:12,039 --> 00:36:13,760
was no real reason why he liked to scare me

612
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:14,800
the most, but he did.

613
00:36:15,599 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 1: And then when they eventually put up the ghost box

614
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:22,679
and you could hear their voices, you could hear through

615
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:27,199
the static, all these voices coming through, and I remember

616
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,840
you heard a woman crying, and then you would hear

617
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,880
like a faint sound of a baby, and then you

618
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:37,159
would hear like an evil laugh, like a deep, hearty

619
00:36:37,559 --> 00:36:42,039
party evil laugh. We knew that that had to be

620
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,880
what they the psycha called the big man upstairs, and

621
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,079
he stayed only in the attic because he felt like

622
00:36:48,119 --> 00:36:48,880
he ruled the.

623
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 2: House, is what she said.

624
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:56,239
Speaker 1: I heard someone say like die, death, go away. And

625
00:36:56,280 --> 00:37:03,320
then shortly after that, you heard someone say leave them alone,

626
00:37:04,079 --> 00:37:04,920
leave them alone.

627
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:08,320
Speaker 2: And it's like very hard to tell. But then eventually

628
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:13,559
said leave them alone, and we knew that they had

629
00:37:13,599 --> 00:37:14,320
to be Charles.

630
00:37:15,519 --> 00:37:19,360
Speaker 1: It seemed like Charles was like, in some weird way,

631
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:24,280
the one that kept us protected from the bad entities

632
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:29,599
in our home. In the end, the psychics end up

633
00:37:29,639 --> 00:37:32,760
doing what they called a friendsing, and we all they

634
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:36,599
opened the windows. They had like stage and polasados, and

635
00:37:36,639 --> 00:37:40,400
like a hawk's wing, we all had to hold hands

636
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:45,840
to create a stirggle to at that moment force what

637
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,559
they called the evil ones out of the house. And

638
00:37:48,599 --> 00:37:51,920
when that happened, it was really weird because even though

639
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,880
there was no wind, it felt like there was tons

640
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:58,320
of wind going on around me, like a tornado was

641
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:01,679
going on around me, like I could feel wind, but

642
00:38:03,119 --> 00:38:05,719
truly there was no wind. My hair wasn't moving, nothing

643
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:10,480
was moving, but it felt like it. I just remember feeling.

644
00:38:10,159 --> 00:38:13,280
Speaker 2: This great force of like something pulling.

645
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 1: But it wasn't necessarily I didn't feel like I was

646
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:19,280
being pulled that I could feel it. And my boyfriend

647
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:22,880
at the time, he said he was feeling faint and

648
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:24,840
he felt like he was being pulled to the ground.

649
00:38:27,639 --> 00:38:30,280
Speaker 2: The psychics and the people that were there.

650
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:34,039
Speaker 1: They said that they didn't want him to break the

651
00:38:34,079 --> 00:38:37,039
circle with his hands, and they started to pray out

652
00:38:37,079 --> 00:38:43,719
loud for him to protect him. Eventually he started feeling

653
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,119
better and they said that you need to like fight

654
00:38:46,199 --> 00:38:50,400
whatever it is that you're feeling and don't break the circle.

655
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:54,199
But then they called after that had happened and felt

656
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:56,760
like the evil ones were gone. They said, if there's

657
00:38:56,760 --> 00:39:00,559
anybody else here that wants to go, you know, crossover,

658
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:05,599
you know, this is your chance. And I remember opening

659
00:39:05,599 --> 00:39:08,280
my eyes because I was scared to even like to

660
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:11,000
open my eyes to what I might see. But I

661
00:39:11,039 --> 00:39:13,239
remember at that moment, I wanted to open my eyes.

662
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,559
And when I opened my eyes, I saw a man

663
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:21,280
walking behind everybody, and everybody had their eyes mostly closed.

664
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,679
And I saw this man walking behind everybody, and he

665
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,880
was looking right at me, and he walked into the

666
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,880
middle of the circle and he just smiled at me,

667
00:39:31,039 --> 00:39:34,440
and it's like he waved goodbye, and like I knew

668
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,519
that I knew that, I knew that I knew that

669
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:44,039
was Charles. It actually made me get really teared up

670
00:39:44,079 --> 00:39:47,199
and pry. And I don't know why, because it's like,

671
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:50,320
in some sense, like I had grown fond of Charles,

672
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:54,440
even though he scared me. Still, it's like he was

673
00:39:54,519 --> 00:39:59,760
like a friend that kept us safe. I was scared

674
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:01,599
of you leave, what if the.

675
00:40:01,559 --> 00:40:02,599
Speaker 2: Bad ones were to pack.

676
00:40:17,199 --> 00:40:21,559
Speaker 1: I remember I ended up moving out of that house eventually,

677
00:40:22,639 --> 00:40:26,400
and I moved into my own apartment with at the

678
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:27,960
time my husband and.

679
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:31,400
Speaker 2: I would experience things like wherever.

680
00:40:32,119 --> 00:40:34,320
Speaker 1: Quite often I could go into a restaurant, or I

681
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:39,599
could go into a grocery store or just a thrist store, and.

682
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 2: I would still see things that it seems like other

683
00:40:41,039 --> 00:40:44,599
people might not see. I just kind of got used

684
00:40:44,639 --> 00:40:45,000
to it.

685
00:40:45,519 --> 00:40:49,639
Speaker 1: But nothing really scared me so much that much anymore

686
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:54,000
until we moved into our house that at that time

687
00:40:54,119 --> 00:40:58,800
we had been married for like I think fifteen years.

688
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:05,400
We were taking some time to work on it before

689
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:07,599
we had actually moved in, we had bought it. I'll

690
00:41:07,639 --> 00:41:10,719
say I would go there during the day and I

691
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:14,039
would work on the house. Whenever my husband and my

692
00:41:14,119 --> 00:41:17,679
son were there, I would never feel anything. But as

693
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:19,639
soon as my husband and my son were gone and

694
00:41:19,679 --> 00:41:22,039
I was alone, I felt like there was.

695
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:26,320
Speaker 2: Something really evil in there. It would just show up.

696
00:41:28,679 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 1: I remember there was a time when I was working

697
00:41:30,519 --> 00:41:36,280
on like the den downstairs, and I was painting, and

698
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:41,400
I felt somebody staring at me from behind, and everything

699
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:45,000
inside me. It's like somebody's telling me, Crystal, turn around

700
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:48,760
right now, and like it's like I call.

701
00:41:48,639 --> 00:41:52,840
Speaker 2: It my spidey sense. My spidey sense is going off.

702
00:41:53,159 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 1: And I turn around and there's a man standing in

703
00:41:56,039 --> 00:41:59,559
the doorway and he's like as tall as the doorway

704
00:41:59,639 --> 00:42:02,360
and he's just looking at me. He's a big, big, man,

705
00:42:02,599 --> 00:42:07,360
not just all but big. He looks like he means

706
00:42:07,519 --> 00:42:10,559
no good. And at this point, like I just started

707
00:42:10,639 --> 00:42:12,760
yelling at him just to get out of my house.

708
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,079
You have no right here. I'm not gonna deal with this,

709
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:18,639
and like I just went off and eventually I was like,

710
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:20,639
I'm not giving you any more attention, and I just

711
00:42:20,639 --> 00:42:23,599
turned around to start paying because like this, I just

712
00:42:23,679 --> 00:42:25,800
don't want to deal with you, Like, get out of

713
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:26,119
my house.

714
00:42:26,159 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna deal with you. Goodbye. This goes on

715
00:42:30,599 --> 00:42:31,159
for a little.

716
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:34,239
Speaker 1: Bit, so finally, like I'm trying to stage my home

717
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:35,119
and get rid of him.

718
00:42:35,119 --> 00:42:37,159
Speaker 2: And I know where he's at because I can feel

719
00:42:37,199 --> 00:42:37,760
that he's.

720
00:42:37,599 --> 00:42:40,800
Speaker 1: In the laundry room in this corner, and in this

721
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:45,960
corner behind the furnace, like there're the furnace and the

722
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:50,159
water heater, or in the corner there's like also again

723
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:54,079
yet another hole in the ground, but it only goes

724
00:42:54,119 --> 00:42:58,360
down maybe a foot. I can tell he's in that

725
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:02,000
corner and he's hiding behind the furnace, and I keep

726
00:43:02,039 --> 00:43:03,519
yelling at him to get out of my house.

727
00:43:04,159 --> 00:43:05,039
Speaker 2: And then he has no.

728
00:43:05,079 --> 00:43:07,639
Speaker 1: Right here and only peace and like him, well here

729
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,239
and I'm using the station Finally I'm like, okay, I'm

730
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:13,360
use Pala Santa's to use Pala Santas.

731
00:43:13,559 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 2: And it's kind of budging him, but it's not working.

732
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:20,360
Speaker 1: So I call one of my good friends who's very

733
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:23,599
in tune with I would say, the spiritual world, and

734
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:24,320
she comes.

735
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:26,679
Speaker 2: I don't tell her what's going on. I just want

736
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:28,559
her to tell me what she feels.

737
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 1: And she's like, there is a man in your laundry

738
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:37,599
room and he means no good. And I was like, okay, yeah,

739
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:42,639
I thought so. So together we end up burning what

740
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:46,239
was called copol, and we let the copal burn in

741
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:48,239
the house. We open all the windows, we let the

742
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:50,800
cope burn, and eventually I can tell like, this man

743
00:43:51,119 --> 00:43:55,360
is gone. But in the process of her coming, we

744
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:58,599
had gone through all the rest of the house, including

745
00:43:58,599 --> 00:44:00,920
our attic, which had been a pool down at it,

746
00:44:01,039 --> 00:44:06,639
people stairs down. Even though now this man's gone, I

747
00:44:06,679 --> 00:44:11,719
would wake up because I felt something in the house.

748
00:44:12,119 --> 00:44:15,119
It's like again my bidy sense is telling me wake up.

749
00:44:16,079 --> 00:44:18,599
And I wake up and there's somebody walking.

750
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:21,079
Speaker 2: Past my doorway. But I know that this isn't a

751
00:44:21,119 --> 00:44:22,000
real fund.

752
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:25,840
Speaker 1: At this point, I just know, so I stand up

753
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:28,719
and I go look at the hallway and they're gone.

754
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:31,519
Speaker 2: But this goes on for about a week.

755
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:33,679
Speaker 1: And I reach out to my friend and I tell

756
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:36,079
her so, in the process of getting rid of the man,

757
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:41,079
I think something else happened, and I think that maybe

758
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:41,960
us going.

759
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:44,559
Speaker 5: In an attic might have opened up like a portal

760
00:44:44,679 --> 00:44:47,840
or something, because there's a lot of people coming through

761
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:50,599
my house now, and like my mom always told me

762
00:44:50,639 --> 00:44:53,440
that those are called travelers, and when travelers come through,

763
00:44:53,599 --> 00:44:56,920
you don't acknowledge them because if you acknowledge them, they're.

764
00:44:56,760 --> 00:45:03,079
Speaker 1: Going to stay and make home where you're at. Elaine

765
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:05,960
came and she's like, where do you think it's as like,

766
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:08,159
I think it's in the attic, and she's like, you're correct,

767
00:45:08,199 --> 00:45:10,440
it's in the attic. So I remember we went in

768
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:13,280
the attic and again we had to do the thing

769
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:16,239
where we connect hands and we're going to close it.

770
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:19,039
It was so portal, and again it feels like there's

771
00:45:19,119 --> 00:45:22,760
wind blowing all around me, but there was no wind.

772
00:45:25,039 --> 00:45:27,960
I just remember feeling this great force as if there's

773
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:31,960
actually a door, and I remember we had to push

774
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:33,480
it shut, and I'm.

775
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 2: Like actually working up sweat at this point. It's full time.

776
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, you could think, oh, maybe you're in the attic,

777
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:42,639
it's just hot, but really it wasn't hot in the attic.

778
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 2: It was cool. And I just remember feeling.

779
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:49,039
Speaker 1: This great force, this wind, and we're burning the polisantos

780
00:45:49,079 --> 00:45:51,920
and the coppol and to close.

781
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:52,679
Speaker 2: The said portal.

782
00:45:53,199 --> 00:45:57,320
Speaker 1: Eventually I feel something and it feels like a big food.

783
00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 2: And I know that actually true. He was closing a p.

784
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:07,320
Speaker 1: So from that moment on, I ended up getting like

785
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:10,440
three four mason jars. I filled them with saul a

786
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:12,679
protection stone in a crystal, and I put them on

787
00:46:12,679 --> 00:46:16,679
the four corners of the attic, so nothing even if

788
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:18,639
something were to try to open, nothing's going to come

789
00:46:18,679 --> 00:46:21,440
back downstairs. And from that moment on, like we didn't

790
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:29,320
experience anything else in the house. Everything was fine. Later on,

791
00:46:29,559 --> 00:46:33,920
you know our cat who had had for eighteen years,

792
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:38,039
his name was Yoshi. Our dogs had loved him. He

793
00:46:38,199 --> 00:46:41,039
was the alpha. He was an orange tabby. He ended

794
00:46:41,079 --> 00:46:45,440
up passing away of just old age, and myself and

795
00:46:45,519 --> 00:46:50,320
my daughter would always see him. It's like he would

796
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:53,280
stay in the house. We would see Yoshi quite often.

797
00:46:53,559 --> 00:46:56,800
There was also another time where I remember my daughter

798
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:02,880
we had gone to a Latin shop and my husband

799
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:07,199
at the time was salvad Orian, and my daughter wanted

800
00:47:07,639 --> 00:47:11,880
this candle and it was a white candle, but it

801
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:16,679
had the picture of death with a siph I tell

802
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:19,679
Bella and her her dad tells her, you know, these

803
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:21,760
candles are used for her right, and she's like no,

804
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:23,920
and he's like, this is like so when people die,

805
00:47:24,039 --> 00:47:26,719
they put them at the graver in the house, so

806
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:30,360
that it's to remember those that have passed away or

807
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:31,079
to call.

808
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 2: Them back, like for the day of the day.

809
00:47:33,519 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 1: So I remember telling Bella, don't burn this in the house,

810
00:47:38,119 --> 00:47:40,920
no matter what you do, don't burn this in the

811
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:45,320
house of Bella. And she says, okay, okay, okay, Mom, okay. Well,

812
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:48,320
two weeks go by and all of.

813
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:50,840
Speaker 2: A sudden, my phone.

814
00:47:50,559 --> 00:47:52,840
Speaker 1: At like two in the morning is going off and

815
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:56,559
it's ringing and it's Bella and she's crying and she says, Mom,

816
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:57,239
can you.

817
00:47:57,199 --> 00:48:01,880
Speaker 2: Please put them in the room, And so so I

818
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:05,320
go and I go in her room.

819
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:08,880
Speaker 1: You know, she's like, there's something in my room and

820
00:48:09,039 --> 00:48:13,199
she's like, my my mirror on my wall.

821
00:48:13,079 --> 00:48:14,760
Speaker 2: Which is like this octapon shape.

822
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:20,039
Speaker 1: She just kept coming and standing against the wall, and

823
00:48:20,079 --> 00:48:21,400
I walk in the room and it's like, all of

824
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:24,519
a sudden, I feel like I'm like a hound dog

825
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:27,159
because I can. All of a sudden, it's like I'm

826
00:48:27,199 --> 00:48:29,679
searching the room, and it's like in the video games

827
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:32,119
where something like lights up cold and you're that's an

828
00:48:32,199 --> 00:48:33,360
object that you need to get.

829
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 2: It doesn't really light up.

830
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:36,920
Speaker 1: Hold in my mind that like, I'm searching the room

831
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:40,199
and boom, there's the candle and I know it's a candle.

832
00:48:40,679 --> 00:48:42,320
Speaker 2: And I go to grab the candle. And when I

833
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:43,880
go to grab the candle, I look up at.

834
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:46,599
Speaker 1: The mirror and right behind me there's an old woomer

835
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:50,480
standing behind me with like shoulder length hair that's white

836
00:48:50,559 --> 00:48:53,440
and curly, and she's just smiling and looks.

837
00:48:53,199 --> 00:48:58,280
Speaker 2: Like like mischievously. And I grabbed the candle and I

838
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:00,480
grabbed the mirror off the wall.

839
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 1: And I go outside. I just throw it in the

840
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:05,519
yard and I look at her and I said, I

841
00:49:05,559 --> 00:49:08,119
told you not to burn this, And I told her

842
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:11,079
the reasoning why that just happened is because you welcome

843
00:49:11,159 --> 00:49:12,599
the dead into our home.

844
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:17,800
Speaker 2: She was so scared, and I think she ended up

845
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:19,519
sleeping in the bed for this that night.

846
00:49:20,119 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 1: But after that we didn't experience me, I never really

847
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:29,079
think if we're not normal, because this is so normal

848
00:49:29,159 --> 00:49:30,599
to me because.

849
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:32,840
Speaker 2: I grew up with it that it's like it is

850
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:33,519
my normal.

851
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 1: I don't know any other way. Bella doesn't know any

852
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:39,480
other way because she grew up with it, and my

853
00:49:39,559 --> 00:49:44,239
mom grew up with it. But I do realize that,

854
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:46,920
like I know that I'm not like a normal family

855
00:49:47,599 --> 00:49:50,800
because it's like I don't know what it's like to

856
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:54,079
walk around and not have that sense. I don't understand

857
00:49:54,079 --> 00:49:56,000
that feeling. I feel like it's as if I were

858
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:59,400
walking around and having in a sense, I'm missing one

859
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:02,599
of my senses because I've only known what it's like

860
00:50:02,639 --> 00:50:03,079
to have.

861
00:50:03,119 --> 00:50:15,199
Speaker 3: Best Crystal, thank you so much for sharing your experiences

862
00:50:15,199 --> 00:50:18,119
with us here at the True Scary Story community. Find

863
00:50:18,159 --> 00:50:22,920
it really interesting how the generational haunting belief, the idea,

864
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:25,840
this thing that we've covered a couple of times here

865
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:32,960
is coming up again. Can parents, mothers pass these abilities

866
00:50:33,079 --> 00:50:36,679
to their daughters? And now that I mention it like that,

867
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:39,320
why is it that we're hearing this from mothers to

868
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:44,119
daughters or grandmothers to mothers to daughters, and not like

869
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:49,719
fathers to sons. We could have I guess of a

870
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:53,079
skewed or I mean a different kind of data set

871
00:50:53,079 --> 00:50:55,199
here because there are a lot of women who share

872
00:50:55,199 --> 00:50:58,280
their stories here on true scary story, So that might

873
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:00,559
be it. While we're hearing more cases. But if there's

874
00:51:00,679 --> 00:51:04,880
any people out there that can find a story about

875
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:11,159
a father, a grandfather passing their abilities sensitivities to the paranormal,

876
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:14,599
I want to hear about this particular kind of thing.

877
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:17,039
It's just kind of a side note, right because I

878
00:51:17,119 --> 00:51:20,440
do have some couple notes here actually about this specific story,

879
00:51:20,599 --> 00:51:22,320
the one that we have to hear from Crystal today.

880
00:51:23,039 --> 00:51:26,159
One of them is, obviously there's a couple parts that

881
00:51:26,159 --> 00:51:27,800
stood out to me. We're not going to go into

882
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:30,519
any order, but the rosary, the rizia that are peered

883
00:51:30,559 --> 00:51:33,840
out of nowhere around that well, could it have been

884
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:37,400
placed there for protection or is it something else, a

885
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:40,559
sign maybe that something's taking care of you. What would

886
00:51:40,559 --> 00:51:43,719
make it appear out of nowhere like that? If you

887
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:46,840
dig deeper into some of the paranormal accounts that we've gotten,

888
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:51,400
rosaries actually played a very important role, I guess in

889
00:51:51,559 --> 00:51:56,079
Catholics Catholic household and along with similar beliefs, I've also

890
00:51:56,159 --> 00:52:02,039
heard about good spirits and bad spirits. However, there is

891
00:52:02,079 --> 00:52:04,559
something that really gets to me when I think about this,

892
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:07,880
and it's that there's this very strong Christian belief I've

893
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:10,400
heard about over and over again, which is that there

894
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:14,599
are no good ghosts at all. And this idea has

895
00:52:14,639 --> 00:52:16,920
come up over several episodes. But even if you look

896
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:19,639
at the very very first one, the very first episode

897
00:52:19,639 --> 00:52:22,679
that we ever published here on this podcast, there is

898
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:25,119
a line there, I think is a very last one,

899
00:52:25,119 --> 00:52:28,880
that there's no such thing as like a good ghost.

900
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:33,119
There's either like something really bad or nothing, because why

901
00:52:33,119 --> 00:52:37,480
would a spirit be trapped circling the earth or being

902
00:52:37,559 --> 00:52:41,559
known like being found against among us? And the only

903
00:52:41,639 --> 00:52:44,880
reasoning is that it's something bad. Now that being said,

904
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:48,360
we've also heard about when family members close people to

905
00:52:48,599 --> 00:52:51,960
us pass away and they make their presence known and

906
00:52:52,039 --> 00:52:55,639
we can know with a certain level of certainty that

907
00:52:55,679 --> 00:52:58,639
it's them based on you know, what they provide. It's

908
00:52:58,679 --> 00:53:02,880
a certain smell, a certain object that appears earned I

909
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:05,599
don't know, message that shows up that only they could

910
00:53:05,599 --> 00:53:08,559
have said. Interested in finding out what you think about

911
00:53:08,559 --> 00:53:11,920
this last thing here, I would say it's about the

912
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:14,880
cleansing the rituals, all these things that we use to

913
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:17,559
try to get rid of spirits and entities and things

914
00:53:17,599 --> 00:53:20,320
that we don't want around our house. There was a

915
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:23,000
certain story that I heard, actually we have it here

916
00:53:23,039 --> 00:53:27,280
on the show, the three Faceless demon story that was

917
00:53:27,559 --> 00:53:31,800
really getting to me because of how I started feeling

918
00:53:32,079 --> 00:53:35,159
different when I was editing late at night, when I

919
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:37,320
was listening to certain stories some of the things that

920
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:41,719
would happen around my studio area, and that was sent

921
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:44,480
like via mail that were like, hey, check out these crystals,

922
00:53:44,559 --> 00:53:47,360
check out this stuff. This how you use it so

923
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:50,480
you can cleanse your area? And I was like, I

924
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:51,119
don't know how.

925
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:51,280
Speaker 2: To do this.

926
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:53,360
Speaker 3: What if I mess it up and NI gets worse?

927
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:57,239
You know? Eventually everything kind of stopped, but it was

928
00:53:57,360 --> 00:54:00,320
really making me like I always tell people that I

929
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:03,639
have like what I would call a healthy level of skepticism.

930
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:06,760
I hear stories, I understand them, I empathize with people.

931
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:08,800
I am aware that there's a lot of stuff that

932
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:12,000
we don't know out there. But what do I do

933
00:54:12,039 --> 00:54:15,039
when there's something I can't explain? Like one very common

934
00:54:15,079 --> 00:54:17,760
thing actually happened a couple times. It was that I

935
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:20,440
would be late at night editing looking at my computer

936
00:54:20,519 --> 00:54:23,079
and my back is facing the rest of the rest

937
00:54:23,079 --> 00:54:26,440
of the room, and I would feel this urge like

938
00:54:26,519 --> 00:54:31,480
this like impending kind of sense that I needed to

939
00:54:31,639 --> 00:54:35,360
open the door. It was like I need to get up,

940
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:37,719
I need to turn towards the door and open it. Now,

941
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:39,760
my door at the time didn't lead to another room

942
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:42,000
of the house. It actually led to the outside because

943
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:44,719
it's like a separate part of the house. I'm like,

944
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:47,039
I can't explain this. How am I even gonna ask

945
00:54:47,159 --> 00:54:49,039
or tell anybody about this? Like, oh, I just feel

946
00:54:49,079 --> 00:54:50,880
like opening the door. It's like, what, maybe it's hot

947
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:52,559
in there, I don't know, But no, it was like

948
00:54:52,599 --> 00:54:55,679
this weird feeling that there's something behind me and it

949
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:57,800
wants me to open the door. I mean, that's how

950
00:54:57,840 --> 00:54:59,920
it's closed. I can get to it. When I said

951
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:02,599
that is when I started getting messages of people saying, hey,

952
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:05,519
try this, check this out. But then I also found

953
00:55:05,519 --> 00:55:08,440
that there's proper ways to do this. So just in

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