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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 3: You know a couple of the topics that we've broached

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over the last I don't know, three or four days

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prior to the weekend.

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Speaker 2: Uh, I want to broach him with you.

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Speaker 3: RB two is a question that we're gonna hopefully find

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out or get closer to finding out during springball.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 3: You got Tooni Moa. You have you know a number

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of guys right now. Devon ecka young buck looking to

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make some Hey, Preston Rex has been a favorite amongst

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some because he's got some past catching ability. You've talked

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with me about a little bit about what he brings

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to Jovessa Mooney, Joe de Mooney. Jovesa de Mooney really

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came on strong with his seven tots in the pop

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tarch Bawl versus Georgia Tech. And you know, there could

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be others that step up. There could be a new

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name that steps up after spring. But where you stand

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right now in the RB two conversation, who you're most

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likely to bet on right now to become RB two

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behind l J.

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Speaker 5: Martin, Well, absolutely shut him. It would be that would

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be the favorite for the number two spot. I mean,

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you look back at some of the tape of him

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when he was healthy, and he's a tough dude to

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bring down, and he has got size. Uh, he's got

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the ability to really fill in the gaps, you know,

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when LJ is tired or lj's you know, needs a break.

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Speaker 4: He does that well.

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Speaker 5: I also think that that Preston Rex is going to

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add to the mix. I think that there are certain

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plays and certain downs where I think he is very

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very good with his speed on the outside, with his

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ability with this knowledge of defense and playing so much

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of that as well, and so I think he adds

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to it. You can't count out to Javesa de Mooney

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just because of how well he played in the bowl game.

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You know, you he's gonna get his his reps in

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the spring and and and it's always fun to see

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these new freshmen coming in. So other than his game

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tape at Lehigh, I don't know. I'm interesting to see

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what the speed does you know, as a freshman coming in.

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the speed? Is he going to be able to lay

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the hits and make the moves. He's quick, he's fast,

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and and and I think he's got a bright future.

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So I do think we do have a pretty good room.

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It'll be interesting to see who stands out, you know, who,

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who really steps up and and and and shows how

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competitive they are this spring and and but that's the

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best part of spring ball, man. It's the unknowns and

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the unknowns and then the ability to go in and

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compete and earn that spot. I always tell you, man,

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it's the most fun part of football, in my opinion,

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Look, I love spring ball.

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Speaker 3: I think it's the time to prove yourself and to

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uh maybe turn some heads, get some more reps, have

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some more opportunities.

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Speaker 2: And RB two is one of those. RP two has

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got to be one of those.

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Speaker 3: And and you hope that somebody steps out, uh, steps

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up in the the absence of a true RB two

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right now, because like you know, and when Lj's out,

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you know, and it bears a little bit you know, limited.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it hurts. It got a little if, It got

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Speaker 3: In our run game and our play action was awesome

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this season because we had a run game. We had

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a quarterback and a running back that looked they were

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the they were the Centaurs, they were the bear tars.

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Speaker 2: They were uh.

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Speaker 3: They they were heavy loads to bring down and they

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were scatty and and fleet of foot as well, quick

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and and explosive and physical. And that's what led to

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a fantastic play action game and intermediate intermediate passing it which.

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Speaker 2: Based the question, Uh, even before.

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Speaker 3: The Parker Kingston news, we were concerned about a wide

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receiver one. Parker was going to be the favorite to

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be a one thousand yard receiver. We haven't had many

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of those historically and b WAU football history. Parker was

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on a trajectory to become that. You know, aside from

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the legal issues, I've said this consistently. May the truth

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be unveiled and may justice be wrought and served in

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all these things right and from on all sides, in

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all spect spectrums.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if it will happen in these cases.

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Speaker 3: I don't think always truth is unveiled and unferraled to

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all to consume. And I don't know if justice is

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always wrought in these cases. But I hope that's what

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occurs going forward. But let's just take football for a moment.

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What do we do now in that wide receiver room?

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Are we as confident as you know? And we were, like,

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you know, moderately confident in our wide receiver corps, But

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we're like, it'd be nice to have a Kiel and Marion,

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It'd be nice to have an Austin College.

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Speaker 2: It'd be nice to have a Dax mill And type.

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Speaker 3: Of player that Darius Lasher was a wide receiver one

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Speaker 4: We don't.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if we have that. Everyone thinks maybe

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Kyler Casper could be that guy. Maybe Reggie FRISHCNNET, Uh,

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maybe it's somebody else. But how you how are you

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feeling right now about the wide receiver room.

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Speaker 5: Well, they're all athletes, they all can play ball, and

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we just need to get reps. You know, we need

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to see who comes in and stands out. I mean,

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Tannakook could come in and be that guy. You know,

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you just don't know right now because the majority of

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the guys that that are in there haven't got the

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reps in order to prove themselves. So it's gonna take

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I'm sure they're throwing a lot with Bear. They're starting

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to get that feel they're getting more reps. Most of

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these guys didn't get a lot of reps with Bear

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because they weren't ones and twos last year, you know,

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and Reggie got in towards the end of the season.

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Speaker 4: I think Reggie's great. I think he's gonna he's gonna

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turn a lot of heads, you.

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Speaker 6: Know, I I yeah, it's it's you hate going into

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it with with with the negativity that's kind of come

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across the last couple of weeks.

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Speaker 4: But guys have to step up, you know. It's the same.

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Speaker 5: It's like basketball, as all say, people get hurt, you know,

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next man up and who's ready to fill the shoes.

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Somebody's going to there. There's got to be guys that

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come in and do that. And I can't wait for

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the competitiveness of springball to bring out the best in

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some of these guys. And I think we have guys

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that can do that. I think Kyler Casper is going

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to do very well. Uh just in talking to him

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and his his physicality in football, what he wants to do,

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what his goals are. And but somebody in that receiver

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room has to step up and and become that guy.

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Speaker 4: You know, who is going to step up and be it?

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Speaker 5: I'm not sure yet, you know, it's it's and it

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could be week by week, but I think somebody's gonna

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come out as the alpha in that room and become

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the top dog, and everybody is going to be It's

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kind of like that when we had the quarterback battles

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and you always just like who is it.

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Speaker 4: It's gonna be a parent who is that guy?

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Speaker 5: Typically And just like last year, Bear became that guy

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Speaker 4: And I think a receiver is gonna step up.

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Speaker 5: And show that he is that alpha and we're going

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to be excited to see him play. I'm telling you

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some of these freshmen coming into our outstanding athletes, you know,

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it's hard to put a lot on the shoulders of

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a freshman but as we've seen, look at Malakai Toni.

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Guys should shouldn't even have been a freshman, right, he

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should have been a senior in high school and he dominated.

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You know, I'm not saying we have a Malachai Tony

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on the team, but do we You know the Pula

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Twins coming in. These guys are incredible athletes, and they're

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not five foot seven like Malachai Tony.

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Speaker 4: These guys are. These guys are lengthy.

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Speaker 5: If they can be physical, if they can block, and

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they can get open, they're going to get the ball.

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We could have a shocker of a wide receiver room

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this year with some of these young guys that just

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come in and ball out. And it used to be

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where you're like, ah, the guys a freshman, he's coming in.

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Most freshmen don't have a shot. At least when I played,

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it was very rare that you had a freshman just

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Speaker 4: Just take over the team.

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Speaker 5: Today's world and the amount of private coaching these athletes

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like you look for Margin Hooks.

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Speaker 4: One of my old teammates, right, Margins.

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Speaker 5: I love Margin and he is put together the absolute

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top dogs and the wide receiver groups across the nation. Right,

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you watch some of these guys. I was watching one

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of his guys running yesterday. He's a twenty nine graduate, right,

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His routes unreal, like two steps in and out of

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like comeback right, just none. And so the amount of

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training and the skill set that these guys are coming

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out of high school with, it's just it's a but

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Speaker 4: We would have had that kind of training, Ben, you know,

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I mean think about it. I barely had a receiver

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coach in high school.

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Speaker 2: You know that.

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Speaker 5: He just happened to play receiver in junior college and

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so he was our receiver coach.

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Speaker 4: Right, these guys.

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Speaker 5: Are now being coached by the best of the best,

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and they're starting in like sixth grade, seventh grade with

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one on one coaching. So I think they're coming out bigger, stronger, faster,

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and with skills that we were still learning. I would

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was still learning some of the off the ball press coverage,

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how to get away from guys. And these guys are

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just separating, you know. So it's different, you know, And

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so I do feel like we could have a freshman

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step in there. I really, I really want to see

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Tana Koua do something, do something this year. He's he's

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got the biggest mouth of anybody on the in the

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receiver room. Every play, his mouth doesn't stop talking. And

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back up that mouth a little bit, you know, and

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because I think that's fun. You know, it's fun to

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Speaker 7: We could play.

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Speaker 2: Give me an example.

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Speaker 3: Of a major injury or roster attrition that occurred that

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ended up creating a BYU hero a BYU baller. Right Obviously,

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the low hanging fruit right now is bear Bachmeyer j Retslow.

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That was a roster attrition and bar Bachmeer steps up

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and does something that I mean, he was the highest

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Let beg you to a nine game season, nine game

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win season with an opportunity to beat Utah in the

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in the Vegas Bowl in twenty fifteen, and he had

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a great year. I mean he threw for over three

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thousand yards, nine wins as a true freshman, two game winner,

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Hail Mary's one versus Boys, you stay one versus Nebraska

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at Nebraska, he became a baller in twenty fifteen.

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Speaker 2: Now he regressed. There's some issues.

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Speaker 3: He had mental and emotional issues, and he just he

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lost maybe some competitive fire and edge, and maybe the

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supporting cast wasn't as good, etcetera. You can make all

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these excuses, but like in twenty fifteen, he was a baller.

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But you know, is there a defensive player, Is there

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another offensive player, a wide receiver example that you can

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think about from your time or you know, as you've

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been a fan also watching from Afar that you can

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point to and say, hey, this was a major injury

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or a ross attrition that occurred and ended up creating

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a BYU baller.

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Speaker 4: I'm drawing a complete blank on that. Yeah, I think

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I'm running back to all these injuries and all these.

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Speaker 2: People because a lot of times.

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Speaker 3: Many times you don't get your opportunity until an injury occurs.

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Ritchie Saunders goes down with an ACL injury. Doesn't have

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to It doesn't have to be a football example either,

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sure right, It could be a bastball example where you

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know someone is sitting there in the wing, not getting minutes.

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All of a sudden you give him the minutes and

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they take the baton and they rise to glory and

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fame because they were ready for the moment. The moment

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wasn't too big for him. They had prepared and all

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they needed was an opportunity. All they needed was a

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chance to be featured and get the volume or close

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to the volume that that that former player had received.

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Speaker 8: I don't have a single one I was I was

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just thinking a couple of years ago.

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Speaker 2: Yeah I went down. It was short lived because he

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got injured.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but how good was it? What was the game?

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Speaker 7: Okay?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, when when he came in and just you couldn't

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take him down? His potential man, and it was like, yeah, yeah,

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I think that's a great one.

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Speaker 5: That that's one that had to everyone can relate to

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right now and we want.

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Speaker 4: That back, We want that back.

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Speaker 2: This year.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, let's go uh yeah, I don't have one

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off the top of my head. I think that.

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Speaker 3: Look, I don't think it happens all the time. You know,

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it doesn't happen all the time. But like there there

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are there are times, right there are there are opportunities

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to uh to showcase your ability. I think this this

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is one of those opportunities right within the wide chival room.

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Speaker 5: It is it is, and there's it's gonna take some

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somebody's gonna step up and do it.

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Speaker 4: You know, somebody's gonna be that guy.

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Speaker 5: And it would be great if we got two or

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three of them, you know, two or three of the

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guys step up and become just really good.

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Speaker 8: Bruce Mitchell's another one. Just think oh yeah, yeah, yeah,

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yeah went down and Bruce came in.

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Speaker 2: And Brucey became he was really good all big twelve.

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah.

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Speaker 3: So I'm gonna put that out there for Cougarnation to

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chime in on, because uh, you know, they'll they'll delve

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into the archive, they'll delve into they they're going to

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be pulling up in the nineteen eighties and you know

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when Mark Wilson went down and Jim McMahon stepped up.

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Speaker 2: That's what they that's gonna be. They're gonna be delving

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into there.

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Speaker 3: But I'm also looking for, like positions outside of quarterback

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is what I'm looking for here, and and I'm thinking of,

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you know, of of major injuries. I mean, quite honestly,

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in six and seven when I was playing like we

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we the reason why we were good is because we

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really didn't have that many major injuries.

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Speaker 2: Like they stayed collectively pretty healthy.

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Speaker 3: I think you can say the same thing for the

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eighty four season, like they stayed really healthy.

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Speaker 2: I talked to Robbie Bosco about it. They just didn't

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have any major injuries from key players.

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Speaker 5: Played on grass too, Yeah, you know, so I think

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there's to be said with the playing fields that we

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were able to play.

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Speaker 2: On about practice and game which is grass.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we played on grass, and grass is forgiving. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: The soft tissue injuries are coming from, uh when you

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cut and and in some of this turf and it

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doesn't give like a normal grass field might give and

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cause some of those injuries. But in fact, I did

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just talk to a friend of mine, an old teammate

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from RIXS that played. We were stay Jimmy Atkins and

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so Jimmy, Jimmy is running with business.

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Speaker 4: They do all the turf.

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Speaker 5: In fact, they might be doing the turf on the

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indoor practice field at by US. So I asked him

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today about that. You know, what's what's the difference in

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this turf? And they are now they've come out with

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a new turf that actually is more forgiving. It's no

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no more of that uh of the the rubber pellets

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all over. It's a whole different deal with a padding

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that those pellets. And there's gonna be some lawsuits down

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the line. I feel like that. Yeah, I mean it

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was I think that what they're developing now should be born.

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teams as well, and and a lot of these soft

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tissue injuries and and but I think when you talk

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about injuries and you go to the basketball, it's gonna

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be really interesting to see who steps in and takes

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over that that spot, uh and and fills those shoes

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in the basketball. I had a question for you, do

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do you know? I was thinking about this today. Is

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there a limit of games that a red shirt can

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play in basketball?

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Speaker 4: As similar to football. Is there somebody who's.

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Speaker 5: Red shirting currently on the BYU basketball team, it would.

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Speaker 3: Be kJ Perry, But I think he's I think he's

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he's injured too, I think is he. I don't know, Ronnie,

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he correct me if I'm wrong, But I think kJ

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Perry is also not healthy enough to play, and they

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had him slated as a red shirt right away. I

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mean that's the thing like basketball's cursed. I mean right

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Ay Pickens foot an ankle out for the year, Dawson

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Baker knee out for the year, Berti Koslowski out for

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the year, Richie Saunders knee out for the year, Xavier

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Stton out for the year. I think kJ Perry has

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also been been, you know, been deemed.

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Speaker 5: But can they can they play a certain amount of

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games and still hold their red shirt like the you

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can in football.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean there's a certain amount of games. I

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can't remember what the threshold is. I can do a

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little bit. It's like it's probably like a third of

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the games or something like that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it'd be interesting to see if anybody is, if

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they're able to bring anybody back.

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Speaker 3: But well, that's it. It's February and you.

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Speaker 4: Would think at this point if they if they were

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able to, they could play.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. So I just don't see it happening.

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Speaker 3: What they got, Yeah, what they got, I think the

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only individual would be kJ Perry and uh.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I no point to burn that. Yeah, I just

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don't think so shout out to to val Hale.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he brought up Mark Wilson, you know in his

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eric stepping up and uh and say val.

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Speaker 4: Hale, so why don't you bring up Chris Hale? Remember

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remember Chris is touchdown.

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Speaker 5: Okay, I don't know if that came off an injury,

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but he came in and got that amazing touchdown.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was such one of those blazing fast young

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men that one.

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Speaker 4: Of those from Aura.

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Speaker 5: I wish I could have been in his shoes for

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that one catch in that game.

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Speaker 3: But he also mentions Ryan Hancock too, Ryan Hancock coming

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off the bench.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's what I'm saying, like, more often than not,

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you're seeing like an injury to a quarterback or there's

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some player attrician and it's a quarterback that steps up,

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a backup to become a hero.

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Speaker 2: And it's and it's an immediate thing.

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Speaker 3: It's a and at least right now, you have an

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off season to plan for it, right, you have an

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off season with Parker. It's like, Hey, Kyler, you're going

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to be that guy. Hey, you're gonna be that Cody Hagen?

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Are you going to be that guy?

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Speaker 4: You know, Cody's got all everything? Probably that guy. Yeah,

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everything there.

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Speaker 5: And I think I think the one thing with Cody

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that I saw he's super fast, super quick, great hands.

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I felt like he just needed to be more physical, right,

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He got more. He got physical around a little bit.

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I mean, granted he come up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's got to put on some some lean

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dust match right right.

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Speaker 5: It's either But to me, the physality of football is

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you're either physical, well you're not, right, And some guys

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are physical players all the time and some guys are

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more of a finesse. But he kind of comes across

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more of a finesse. I like to see the receivers

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that have a physical side to him that it's just

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I'm gonna go out there and rip this guy's head.

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I'm blocking this guy, I'm gonna rip his head off.

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As a receiver. A lot of us, as receivers, don't

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have more of a finesse, like I'm gonna get in

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the guy's way and I'm gonna make.

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Speaker 3: Sure you he's a floater though, And by that though,

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I'll give you my analysis of this, Like I've bodied

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up enough human beings in sport and to know whether

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it was wrestling, basketball, football, If you have light bone

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structure and you have a lot of tendon, you you're

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a You're a floater. You blied and you get knocked

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off pretty like I remember running against guys that were

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faster than me.

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Speaker 2: They were floaters.

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Speaker 3: If I could knock them off the route in that

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initial five, they just never get back up to that

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the top end speed they can. I can reroute them

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through hand placement, through hitting the wrist. Their floaters. And

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it's like, if you like the reason why pukin the

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Coup is so good at contested catches, you know, he's

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a pretty he's he's not like overly big, you know,

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or like and I'm sure in the weight room he

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probably pushes good weight, but he's not like a weight

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room guy.

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Speaker 2: But he's so dang.

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Speaker 4: Dense aggressively attacks.

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Speaker 3: But he's dense, dude, he is, He's thick, his lower

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he's got a he stays grounded through contact because his

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body weight is probably mostly in his lower half, so

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he he fights through contact a whole lot better than others.

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Speaker 5: But you could still be fit. You could be a

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floater and still be physical.

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Speaker 3: How many floaters do you know that we're we're like

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truly physical though, give me an.

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Speaker 5: Example that was their game, wasn't that? But if you

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add that to your game, But it's mental. I think,

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I think the physicality of football has so much mental

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floater kind of.

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Speaker 4: But they're trying to avoid contact.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's like, to me, like a good example of

476
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like how physical would Deshaun Jackson. Maybe physical enough, but

477
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that guy was so freaking fashion couldn't touch him. So

478
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like even like you have to be so fast, Cody

479
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has to be so fast that he can't be touched. Parker,

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to his credit, became like I felt like he kind

481
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of got early on his career was more of a floater,

482
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but then he was able to fight through contactcause you

483
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got more dense. So like I think, I mean, Cody's

484
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got to get more dnse in the lower half. He's

485
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got to put on and and some of that could be.

486
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Like it's almost like body building type of lifts in

487
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conjunction with your pliometric lifts, because you have to put

488
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on some lean muscle mass through bodybuilding ecentric concentric loading.

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Speaker 5: Get a penalty, Go get a penalty, Go go go

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take somebody's head.

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Speaker 4: Can I can I jump in there?

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Speaker 3: I don't know if I don't know if Cody's ever

493
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gonna be that Like physically, he's you know, he's more

494
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likely to become a DeShawn Jackson type. I'm not saying

495
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he is DeShawn Jackson, you know, with quickness and speed

496
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and and being fleet of.

497
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Speaker 2: Foot, like Regie Bush was not overly physical.

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Speaker 3: He's just so freaking fast and quick like in college,

499
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like he just couldn't be touched. But when you get

500
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him like he was overly physical, would like fight through

501
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a whole lot. So but yeah, I mean, look, I

502
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want we all want Pukahs, we all want Austin Collies.

503
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Even Dax Milne was just a body guy. You throw

504
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them all and he knew how to position his body

505
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where the depend he could fight through some good contact

506
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and that's why he became a punt return in the NFL.

507
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Play Yeah, Faishika Hema was not fast. He was extremely

508
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quick and fought through contact. Right, Ronald, you wanted to

509
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chime in real quick.

510
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Speaker 9: But yeah, I just wanted to say this like I'm

511
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running out of it. I don't want to does not

512
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excuse us the wrong word. But things for Cody because

513
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been having played rugby, they took Cody dudes and they

514
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would go in the offseason, they come back. I'm like,

515
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oh goodness, greatious, Like they would turn in the Parker

516
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like fixed so and that's what. Like we had Sam Roberts,

517
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who's a guy that was like one of the fastest

518
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track dudes. Like that dude, the muscle he put on

519
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and when he kept his speed and started moving. So

520
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I'm like, I don't know what Olympic Cody needs to do,

521
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but if he wants to come to me with the gym, like, bro,

522
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you gotta eat six thousand calories and you gotta lift crazy,

523
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because that's the thing. Once he gets muscle, then it'll

524
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become like what you know, PK and other fast guys

525
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Deshaun wa But he can't just maneuver like you. Benny

526
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poke him and he falls over and it's like gotta

527
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be you gotta be physical. He's got to do something.

528
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And that's where I think Jared's points of I like

529
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taina cool because physical puts on the muscles. So we'll see.

530
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But I would like to see Cody Hagen. They got

531
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some guys in this room. But you gotta put on

532
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the muscle. You gotta put it on.

533
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Speaker 4: Yep, yep, I agree with that.

534
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Speaker 8: Ben, real quick, you talked about red shirt games in

535
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basketball year old.

536
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Speaker 2: Oh zero, you can't you can't play.

537
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Speaker 7: Wow.

538
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Speaker 4: Wow, that's that's insane. That's why they want to turn it.

539
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Thanks for bringing that out. Yeah, yeah, you're not.

540
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Speaker 3: Just pulled it up to one minute in one game

541
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that years used.

542
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Speaker 2: Wow.

543
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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's somebody needs to vote on that one.

544
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

545
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Speaker 3: You can get a medical you can get the hardship

546
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waiver after playing it more than thirty.

547
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Speaker 2: Percent of the team's games though.

548
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Speaker 3: Okay, so that's where I mean Richie's played games. Riches

549
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Speaker 3: We're seeing a lot of right now. Who's coming in,

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Like what type of vehicles are coming in?

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get tons of Teslas who are right next door. We

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Eraldy and Darnell Dixon on the line Double D.

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Speaker 7: How you live in Living Well? You know I had

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to cancel my my reservations that Ruby's in because I

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had the snow down there yet you got to get

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some snow before me and missus have a chance to

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hang out down there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you got.

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Speaker 3: You need the snow capped hoodoos when you go down

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there and you get I got nice and toasty warm

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by the fire after the the undulating snowshoeing hikes. You

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love going down there with the snow capped hoodoos, don't you.

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Speaker 7: Those are some words that I probably wouldn't have used,

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but I guess they work.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Hey, I'm sorry. Look, these are these are my words,

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not Darnell's worlds where it's no doubt about it.

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Speaker 3: But uh, you know you love Ruby's Inn and you

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love staying at Bryce There at Bryce Candon National Park.

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Speaker 2: Why do you love it so much?

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Speaker 7: Well as a lot of reasons. I mean, you and

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I have talked about the breakfast there are really really

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good and those are awesome to start the day. And

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I of the non light noise there is there well,

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little light noisier the night it's just so dark and

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you see stars and it just feels wonderful to be

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out in nature like that, no doubt about it.

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Speaker 3: Hike, bike, razor, horseback ride to them, hoodoos of Bryce

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Caandon National Park.

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Speaker 2: He will not be disappointed in the experience. No sensor

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butts about it.

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Speaker 3: Darnell Dixon, Let's talk some bau hoops by the skin

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of their teeth. The bo You Cougar basketball team got

624
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away with one got the dove versus the buffs? Your thoughts,

625
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your comments or what did you see?

626
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Speaker 2: What did you like? What did you dislike?

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Speaker 7: Well, they had to make an adjustment on the fly,

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and that is losing Richie Saunders in the first offensive

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series and then you're down to the big two and

630
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those both of those guys came through with big games.

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Aj didn't shoot particularly well, but he had thirteen rebounds

632
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and the six assists, and Rob had thirty nine points.

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And that's probably what we're going to have to see

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in the last six games of the season. And if

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there's anything beyond that in the Big twelve Tournament or

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the NCAA tournament, is those guys are going to have

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to play forty minutes and put up twenty five to

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thirty points every single game. They can't take a night off,

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not without Richie out there.

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Speaker 3: How does this impact that Richie Saunders loss impact your

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expectations of this BLAYU basketball team.

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Speaker 7: Well, you know, Ben, what's interesting is when I started

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thinking about this and I saw Richie's post on Sunday

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that he had suffered in acy elling Drews out for

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the year and all the thanks he game. Then people

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got online and you know, former players and family and

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friends and fans about how much they love Richie and

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how much he represents the program and what it means

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to be a Cougar. And I started thinking, who does

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that now and how important is that today? In the

651
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nil transferport Do you still need those kind of guys?

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And I even asked Kevin Young that today and his

653
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answer was kind of like, well, it's great if you

654
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can get them. But this is kind of how I've

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understood college basketball in my experience the last two years

656
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with what's been going on. So, you know, I don't know.

657
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And in terms of this season, it's a huge loss,

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and I feel like the team was kind of struggling

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a little bit defensively, a lot of defensively. Let's just

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go over there and say it, even with Richie in

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the lineup. Now, without him, they've got one less perimitive defender,

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one less experienced defender, and Richie was not a lockdown defender,

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but he certainly was willing and was able to guard

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well and cause turnovers and get out on the break

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and do some things like that. So there's just a

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lot of opportunities, and Kevin Young addressed this today for

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players to step up and take those roles and do

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some of those things. You know, if they felt like

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they should have been getting more playing time, well, here

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it is and see what you can do with it.

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I feel like they went you know, beginning of the season,

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we talked about them being possibly a Final four team.

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I don't think they were that even when Richard was playing.

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At this point of the season. They had that four

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game losing streak, but I still had confidence that Kevin

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Young would find a way to get these guys playing

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their best ball at the end of the season and

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give themselves an opportunity maybe to make it another run

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in the NCAA tournament. Now without Richie, that makes it

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even more difficult. They've got six games left in the

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regular season. Looking at that list of teams, yeah, I

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have a hard time finding any more than two or

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three wins in there, and then they might win a

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game in the big twelve and get themselves up to

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twenty two or twenty three wins. You know, I think

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that's probably gonna put them in the six to nine,

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maybe even ten range, depending on on what games they

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lose as an NCAA tournament seem And that's definitely a

689
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lot less than what we thought this team had the

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capabilities to do.

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Speaker 3: Darnald Dixon the Daily guaralden here on your Utah ESPN

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Radio network and a Cougar Beat brought to you by

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rubies End rubies in dot Com. Darnell, who's the most

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likely to step up and finally, you know, make an impact?

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Speaker 2: That's you know, that's a role player right now?

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Speaker 3: With Richie gone, more opportunities, more minutes will be bestowed.

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Speaker 2: Upon a few.

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Speaker 3: We'll see who is found worthy of those minutes and

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who produces. But who's your who's your likely person to

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maybe bet on right now?

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Speaker 7: Well, they don't have a ton of really amazing options.

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You know, they obviously have some season inding injuries previous

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to Richie. I feel like Tonnard Davis Junior and even

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Kevin Young mentioned him today as somebody that you know,

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he's kind of turned into us, uh, just kind of

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a standstill shooter, and he's really got more skills than that.

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He can take the ball to the basket and have

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some moves that way. So I expect to see Cannon

709
00:32:42,799 --> 00:32:46,119
Davis give a few more opportunities to create from his spot.

710
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,599
I think they need to give Kadean Boop as many

711
00:32:50,599 --> 00:32:53,440
minutes as they can spare because of his energy and defense.

712
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,960
I think Alexi coast it showed that he's not afraid

713
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:58,759
of taking a big shot, and that was a huge

714
00:32:58,759 --> 00:33:01,920
shot he made, you know, time against Colorado and just

715
00:33:02,039 --> 00:33:04,359
taking it, I mean he was gonna shoot it as

716
00:33:04,359 --> 00:33:06,079
soon as he kind of you could tell in very

717
00:33:06,119 --> 00:33:08,960
quick release. He didn't hesitate, and that's good to see.

718
00:33:09,039 --> 00:33:13,039
So I think there's some some right spots, maybe not

719
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,960
super bright, but at least you see the potential there

720
00:33:16,039 --> 00:33:18,240
for some of these guys to step up time. Moruss

721
00:33:18,599 --> 00:33:20,200
hadn't played at a bunch of games, and he was

722
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:21,880
the first guy off the bench when Richie got hurt.

723
00:33:22,559 --> 00:33:25,240
So you know, Tyler hit a couple of threes and

724
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,759
he plays hard defensively. So there are some of those

725
00:33:28,759 --> 00:33:30,599
are the players that I look at as guys that

726
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:34,160
have an opportunity to get more minutes, get more opportunities

727
00:33:34,279 --> 00:33:36,359
to show what they can do and make themselves a

728
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:39,039
big part of whatever finished this is for BYU.

729
00:33:40,599 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm leaning like I'm leaning a Lexi coastick. I'm

730
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:48,640
an a Lexi costic fan, Okay, and not everyone's h

731
00:33:48,839 --> 00:33:50,720
not everyone's on board with me here.

732
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:54,799
Speaker 2: And you know, I've heard from a number of different

733
00:33:54,839 --> 00:33:57,000
people like, hey, he's just he's just not good.

734
00:33:57,279 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 3: He's not consistent, he doesn't look good enough practice, and

735
00:34:00,799 --> 00:34:03,000
obviously there's a reason why he doesn't get minutes in games.

736
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,599
But I think I think he's my guy right now.

737
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:08,920
That's who I'm riding with. Tyler Maruss has been a favorite.

738
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,239
You know, some people are are still bought in that

739
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:14,599
they think Mahilo could come around. Some are like, hey,

740
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,360
Cannard Davis, he's the one that's getting almost forty minutes

741
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:17,599
a game.

742
00:34:17,679 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 2: Like he's gonna figure it out.

743
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 3: Offensively, he's already a good defender, he can be a

744
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:23,159
good rebounder.

745
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:25,559
Speaker 2: They feel like he's going to step up in a

746
00:34:25,639 --> 00:34:26,119
big way.

747
00:34:27,079 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 3: And maybe it's a it's a conglomerate of all of

748
00:34:29,519 --> 00:34:32,199
these guys that that step up and lift where they stand.

749
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:35,960
But right now, man, I hope it's a Lexi. I

750
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,639
guess I'm rooting for Alexi because I just think he's

751
00:34:38,679 --> 00:34:40,440
got the purest shot out of all of them. I

752
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,440
think he's got he's got a quick release, he's got

753
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:46,000
good size, he's got good athleticism in my opinion, and

754
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:48,119
we need guys that can actually hit a shot a

755
00:34:48,159 --> 00:34:51,199
standing three and I love his pure stroke right now.

756
00:34:51,199 --> 00:34:52,119
Speaker 2: I think he can be a guy.

757
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:54,800
Speaker 7: Yeah. And one of the problems that Alessi's had this

758
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:56,599
year when he's gotten in is that he picks up

759
00:34:56,679 --> 00:34:59,440
fouls pretty quickly and on the defensive. You know, he

760
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:01,119
comes in off the bench and he's got two fouls

761
00:35:01,159 --> 00:35:03,320
in the first five minutes of the game. That puts

762
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:04,960
himself in a bad spot because then they got to

763
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,480
take him out and try somebody else Offensively, for sure,

764
00:35:07,559 --> 00:35:10,920
he's got a great stroke, he's quick off the floor,

765
00:35:12,039 --> 00:35:15,039
and he's confident, I think in a shot. But where

766
00:35:15,079 --> 00:35:18,239
he needs to improve is to play defense well with

767
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,679
his feet, not pick up fouls, and not have to

768
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,360
exit the game so quickly. I also think it's important

769
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:26,960
that we kind of follow and this has been really

770
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,960
interesting to me too, is Kip Kada His production has

771
00:35:30,039 --> 00:35:32,199
fallen way off on both ends of the floor, and

772
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:34,840
Kevin Young told us he has a hand injury. You see,

773
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:39,199
he's got a couple of fingers taped together. And you know,

774
00:35:39,559 --> 00:35:43,039
there were games earlier this season in the non conference

775
00:35:43,559 --> 00:35:45,519
where after the game, I was like, man, kid was

776
00:35:45,599 --> 00:35:47,039
like the best player on the floor of that game.

777
00:35:47,199 --> 00:35:50,960
I mean, he was impacting it defensively, rebounding, blocking shots,

778
00:35:51,039 --> 00:35:54,840
he was getting Ali dunks, he was rebounding, just a

779
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,880
really impactful player. I mean, just haven't seen that for

780
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,199
the past couple of weeks, and we're seeing a lot

781
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:03,199
more Abdullah and that in the game playing that center

782
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:07,000
position back down the stretch against Colorado, it was all Abdullah,

783
00:36:07,159 --> 00:36:09,880
I mean camp it didn't even play the last probably

784
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,480
twenty minutes of the game. So I would like to

785
00:36:12,559 --> 00:36:14,719
see him get back into that form because I would

786
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,519
really help BYU if they could get a defensive presence

787
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:21,000
and a rebounding presence that Cave is capable of. But

788
00:36:21,159 --> 00:36:23,719
if his injury is such that he can't, then that's

789
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,360
going to fall on Abdullah, and it's going to fall

790
00:36:26,559 --> 00:36:29,960
on other guys to you know, come in and play.

791
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:31,760
You get those rebounds.

792
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:36,840
Speaker 3: Darnell Dixon from The Daily Herald talking some Cougar basketball

793
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:40,760
here on your Utah ESPN radio network, if you're looking

794
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:42,719
at the schedule here. I just got a text from

795
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:46,920
a friend and he says, what if, Ben, what if

796
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:51,880
BYU only wins one game down the stretch. That's kind

797
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:53,599
of how he's feelings like by what FM is if

798
00:36:53,599 --> 00:36:57,599
they only win one game between now and the tournament,

799
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:01,960
some people believing that this is not a this is

800
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:03,400
not an NCAA tournament team.

801
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 2: Where do you stand? Double D?

802
00:37:06,559 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 7: I think they're an NCAA tournament team. And even if

803
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:13,880
they'll be what one in five down the stretch, their

804
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:16,639
net ranking is still going to be pretty fine. They're

805
00:37:16,639 --> 00:37:18,360
still going to be probably even if they lose some

806
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:22,880
of those games against Iowa State against Arizona, that's not

807
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:26,039
going to hurt their net ranking. They're going to need

808
00:37:26,119 --> 00:37:28,760
to try to pick up wins against teams like UCF

809
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,639
and Cincinnati. Losses to those teams would cause them a

810
00:37:31,679 --> 00:37:33,480
lock a little bit of trouble. But I still think

811
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:38,559
they can finish somewhere between maybe twenty five or twenty eight,

812
00:37:38,679 --> 00:37:41,119
somewhere in that range. That's going to get them in

813
00:37:41,159 --> 00:37:43,440
the NCAA Tournament. They're not going to ignore a team

814
00:37:43,519 --> 00:37:45,840
that's that high in the neck. And that's the big

815
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:49,360
difference between b YU in the Big Twelve and BYU

816
00:37:49,559 --> 00:37:53,280
in the West Coast Conference is BYU with twenty two

817
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,840
and twelve or twenty one to eleven or whatever in

818
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:59,400
the WCC does not get them into the tournament. You know,

819
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,159
they they probably don't make it. But because they play

820
00:38:02,599 --> 00:38:04,480
in the Big twelve, even when they struggle a little

821
00:38:04,519 --> 00:38:07,440
bit to pick up those wins, they're still playing quad

822
00:38:07,519 --> 00:38:09,960
one on quad two teams, So I still think they're

823
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,800
in a tournament team. And this is gonna give I mean,

824
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:14,599
Kevin Young said, man, this is this is what I

825
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:16,599
you know, I've been doing all my life as a coach,

826
00:38:17,519 --> 00:38:19,679
is teams are writing and people writing us off and

827
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,760
having to deal with all these things. And he says

828
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,639
he's energized to try to make this work. And so

829
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:27,679
the players are gonna feel that, and they're gonna get

830
00:38:27,679 --> 00:38:29,760
an opportunity in the last six games to put something

831
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,800
together where they can maybe put themselves in a position

832
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:34,679
to win a game or two in the NCAA tournament.

833
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:35,760
And who knows what might happen.

834
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:40,360
Speaker 2: Is this basketball team cursed?

835
00:38:40,599 --> 00:38:45,039
Speaker 3: Darnell, have you thought those words in your head after

836
00:38:45,159 --> 00:38:46,320
looking at the injuries?

837
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:47,800
Speaker 2: Nate Pickens out for the season.

838
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 3: Uh Dawson Baker after the season, Burgus last gap for

839
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:51,840
the season, Richie Sunders out for the season.

840
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 2: Campekeetda has a hand issue. He had a concussion issuear

841
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:57,480
early saying stating out is this is this billion basketball

842
00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:58,000
team cursed?

843
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 7: I don't know. Curse is what I'd say. That's what

844
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:04,280
the fans would say, because you know they're really emotionally

845
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:07,280
fight into this. I think it's just, you know, you

846
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:10,519
get bad breaks, and you know Richie has made that

847
00:39:10,679 --> 00:39:14,239
move on the baseline a thousand times in his career.

848
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:16,960
You know, he drives hard down the lane, jumps back

849
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,320
to pass it back out and he just came down

850
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:22,280
on the wrong and that happens. And you hope it

851
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,679
wouldn't happen. They Richie, you hope it wouldn't happen this year,

852
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,280
and and you just have to deal with And that's

853
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:29,400
that's how Kevin Young approaches it. And you know, as

854
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:30,760
a member of the media, that's kind of how I

855
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:32,639
have to approach it. And I've been around long enough

856
00:39:32,679 --> 00:39:35,280
to have seen teams that were good that got a

857
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:38,800
bad break. I mean twenty twenty, you know with with

858
00:39:39,639 --> 00:39:42,159
COVID nineteen, you know, that was definitely a bad break

859
00:39:42,199 --> 00:39:44,039
for a team that look like it could make some noise.

860
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,239
And then the team with Jimmer, you know, with with

861
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:50,239
Brandon Davies and what happened there, that team looked like

862
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:53,119
they could maybe make a long run. So I don't

863
00:39:53,119 --> 00:39:54,639
know if bad luck's the bad thing. It's just you

864
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:56,519
re really have to be good and you have to

865
00:39:56,599 --> 00:39:59,920
get some good breaks in order to get to a championship.

866
00:40:00,039 --> 00:40:02,079
We get to a final four, and he just hasn't

867
00:40:02,119 --> 00:40:03,280
happened for this program, you know.

868
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 3: So is this team uh uh finally gonna get that

869
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,440
final four monkey off their bat this this year?

870
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:16,360
Speaker 7: Darnell, It would shock me if that happened. I think

871
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:18,119
they're gonna give a good effort. I think Kevin Young

872
00:40:18,159 --> 00:40:19,920
and as coaching staff are going to put these guys

873
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:22,679
to you know, through the rate, We're gonna make them

874
00:40:23,079 --> 00:40:26,280
step up, and they're gonna give some teams some troubles.

875
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:28,960
They're gonna play there that are ranked per guy. I mean,

876
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,639
they definitely I think I read that BYU has the

877
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:35,719
seventh hardest schedule in the country. In the next six games,

878
00:40:36,079 --> 00:40:41,960
you know who's number one. So it's it's just this

879
00:40:42,079 --> 00:40:44,559
Big twelve is just a gauntlet and they're gonna be

880
00:40:44,639 --> 00:40:48,199
tested and they're gonna be the best version of themselves

881
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:51,480
if they get to the NCAA tournament and then everything

882
00:40:51,519 --> 00:40:53,239
starts over and you have a have a shot. That's

883
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:56,199
all you can hop before. Are they final four team?

884
00:40:56,639 --> 00:40:59,360
I wasn't. I don't think they were at this point

885
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:01,639
in the season with Richie in the in the program.

886
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:05,519
I think they were just struggling out way too much

887
00:41:05,599 --> 00:41:08,000
defensively to try to stop the guards. That's the challenge

888
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,320
tomorrow night when they play at Arizona. By the way,

889
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:16,760
we're sending Brandon Gurney to Tucson cover the Cougars, so

890
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:18,800
we'll see if we'll see if we get him back.

891
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:23,199
But a man going out to touch, that's right, and

892
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:27,000
so uh trying to stop that guard. Line Berry's and

893
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:30,320
Jalen Bradley Man, those guys ate b Yu for dinner

894
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:32,599
and lunch and breakfast last time the late so it

895
00:41:32,679 --> 00:41:34,280
was a big challenge and there was a big challenge

896
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:36,679
every night in the Big twelve. But like I said,

897
00:41:36,679 --> 00:41:40,840
they're just trying to be when the NCAA tournament opportunities come,

898
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:42,880
the best version of themselves and then you just play

899
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:43,199
a game.

900
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:48,360
Speaker 3: Darnell, any other things that have been keeping up at

901
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:50,159
night regarding this BYU basketball team.

902
00:41:50,199 --> 00:41:52,280
Speaker 2: What have you been writing about? What can you tease

903
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:52,599
for us?

904
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,320
Speaker 7: Well? Like I did, I said, I did write a

905
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:59,800
column for tomorrow about Richie and the fact that you

906
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:02,239
know his kind of player, a guy that's four years

907
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:04,920
in your program and grew up watching the team and

908
00:42:05,039 --> 00:42:08,159
wants to be a Cougar, and not just in by

909
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:10,840
US program, but all over college sports. Those guys are

910
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:15,239
hard to find anymore. And it's because of Nilm's, because

911
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:18,920
of the transfer portal. And I don't have anything against

912
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:22,880
those ideas for the individual. I think that it benefits

913
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:24,320
a lot of guys and it's good that they have

914
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:27,400
the ability to find the right place for themselves. But

915
00:42:27,519 --> 00:42:30,360
there are some ancillary impacts, and this is one of

916
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:34,159
them that guys like Richie really hard even in BYU,

917
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:36,480
are going to be hard to find. Like who, like

918
00:42:36,559 --> 00:42:38,639
I said earlier, who won on our team right now

919
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:42,920
can provide that kind of perspective that hey, it means

920
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,239
something to go out and play in front of Rocket,

921
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:48,760
means something to wear this jersey. Who in that program

922
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:52,280
can say that, Well, nobody on the roster really. Those

923
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:53,880
are all one or two year guys that are in

924
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:57,119
the program. Now we've got a couple of guys Bertie Coslowski,

925
00:42:57,199 --> 00:42:59,960
who his mom played at BYU. He grew up in Saltway,

926
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:02,679
but he's injured, he's not playing and not really you know,

927
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:05,320
part of that process. And they're bringing in a couple

928
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:09,280
of guys from KIMQ next next year that have some

929
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:12,079
good ties to the program. Maybe they'll stay four years,

930
00:43:12,119 --> 00:43:14,480
who knows. But I just I just really lament the

931
00:43:14,559 --> 00:43:17,400
fact that guys like Richie are just hard to find,

932
00:43:17,559 --> 00:43:20,880
not just the b YU, but anywhere in college sports anymore.

933
00:43:21,039 --> 00:43:22,960
I mean, you then when you came to buy you,

934
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:25,519
you had Cameron Jensen tell you this is how we

935
00:43:25,639 --> 00:43:29,199
do things. Follow me right, m oh yeah, we.

936
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 2: Had we had great examples of what it took just

937
00:43:31,599 --> 00:43:32,119
a champion.

938
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, not just Cameron, but lots of different guys. Yeah. Yeah,

939
00:43:36,079 --> 00:43:38,679
but but those kind of guys are hard to find anywhere,

940
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:40,920
and Richie was one of those guys, and I know

941
00:43:41,079 --> 00:43:42,840
b Yu will miss that, and they were going to

942
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:45,960
miss anyway because he's graduating at some point. But I

943
00:43:46,079 --> 00:43:48,039
just I just see the future of the sport being

944
00:43:48,199 --> 00:43:51,280
very different when it comes to guys that are willing

945
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:54,960
to buy their time and and get better each year.

946
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That's what That's what Kevin Young said today about Richie

947
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is he just paid his dues and got better each

948
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year and now, you know, even an All League player

949
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last year. But that kind of guy maybe doesn't stay

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four years anymore. Maybe that that guy that that you

951
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know puts in the effort and starts to get better

952
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decides to go wandering somewhere else because it's so easy

953
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:17,239
to do anymore. So I I wrote about that a

954
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:19,239
little bit. Hopefully it won't bump you out too much,

955
00:44:19,639 --> 00:44:22,320
Ben to read it, because I know you you call

956
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:24,159
me an little kage sword of fart guy.

957
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:27,360
Speaker 2: That right, well, whoa whoa, whoa whoa. Now that's not

958
00:44:27,599 --> 00:44:31,719
that's not true. You are get off my lawn type

959
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:32,039
of guy.

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Speaker 7: Though yes I am storytimes that's true.

961
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:38,559
Speaker 2: I'll you gotta admit that. So uh, sometimes you are

962
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:39,880
to get off my lawn guy.

963
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:42,760
Speaker 3: What does Richie Saunder's breakout all the time amongst the

964
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best NBA basketball history.

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00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:48,360
Speaker 2: Do you think you know?

966
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:50,800
Speaker 7: I haven't. I haven't thought about that that much yet.

967
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:53,920
I'm still kind of been processing the fact that he's

968
00:44:54,039 --> 00:44:57,800
not going to play for BUYU anymore. I just think

969
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:02,800
his story is really cool because everything seems to be

970
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:06,519
in college sports now, immediate satisfaction. I want to play now,

971
00:45:06,599 --> 00:45:08,119
I want scoring points now. I want to get to

972
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the NBA now. And Richie when he came to BUYU,

973
00:45:12,039 --> 00:45:14,920
he had played at Wassatch Academy, had a good stroke,

974
00:45:15,039 --> 00:45:17,000
he played a few minutes here and there, showed some

975
00:45:17,079 --> 00:45:20,480
good energy, and you know, you looked at him and thought, Okay,

976
00:45:20,559 --> 00:45:23,559
he's got some capabilities, he's got some potential. We'll see

977
00:45:23,559 --> 00:45:26,079
how he goes. And then he got to the point

978
00:45:26,119 --> 00:45:27,960
where us as I said, he was a first team

979
00:45:28,039 --> 00:45:30,719
All League in the Big twelve, which is impressive. He

980
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:33,639
had his moment last year in the NCAA tournament during

981
00:45:33,679 --> 00:45:36,480
the run when you know, he let people know and

982
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:39,960
people found out that his grandfather invented kator thoughts that

983
00:45:40,199 --> 00:45:43,199
was fantastic, and bau fans love that. They're like, yeah,

984
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:46,760
he's one of us. Man we loving him. So I

985
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:50,119
think if you look at him and if you want

986
00:45:50,159 --> 00:45:58,880
a number, I'm willing to start with man, top thirty maybe,

987
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:02,079
and then do the work my way down from there

988
00:46:02,119 --> 00:46:03,519
and see where I go. I mean, like I said,

989
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I haven't really started comparing things in that process, but

990
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:11,719
I would say, for sure top thirty, and you could

991
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:14,320
make an argument for top twenty maybe if you look

992
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:16,760
at all that stuff. But I just know as a

993
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:20,400
as a player, the way his fans love him almost

994
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:22,400
as much as anybody that's ever played the game, it'd

995
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be you.

996
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:26,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I'm right there with you.

997
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:31,679
Speaker 3: So I don't In my son's room, I'm very judicious

998
00:46:31,679 --> 00:46:34,519
about what I put up in that room. And he

999
00:46:34,679 --> 00:46:38,559
has a poster of Richie Saunders up in his room, right,

1000
00:46:38,599 --> 00:46:40,840
and he's young. I mean, he's watched Boa basketball with

1001
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:43,719
me and things of that nature, and I've always gone

1002
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:44,920
out of my way and say, hey, that's how you

1003
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,599
play basketball. To see how hard he works, you see

1004
00:46:47,639 --> 00:46:51,480
how high energy. I want my kids to follow Richie's example.

1005
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That's why it hurts me.

1006
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:52,519
Speaker 2: Man.

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00:46:52,599 --> 00:46:54,599
Speaker 3: I'm a fan of Richie as a human and the

1008
00:46:54,639 --> 00:46:56,639
way he goes about his craft, how he goes about

1009
00:46:56,679 --> 00:46:58,880
his work, what he does on and off the court.

1010
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:02,840
Always been impressed by him. Uh in all the interviews. Uh,

1011
00:47:03,079 --> 00:47:05,159
and uh, you know he's he's the guy that does.

1012
00:47:05,159 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 2: The lonely work.

1013
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 3: And even Rob Wright in the post game said, hey, uh,

1014
00:47:09,159 --> 00:47:11,400
nobody works harder. He's the hardest worker on our team.

1015
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:12,519
Speaker 7: So that to me.

1016
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Speaker 3: Is what uh you know, I I I hope that

1017
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:21,119
he's he's been an inspiration enough to get guys to

1018
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:24,320
put in the lonely work when it matters most, which

1019
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:28,800
is right now, really refine their skill set, really refined

1020
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:32,000
their their work ethic, really put in the the late

1021
00:47:32,519 --> 00:47:36,079
the late hours, the late night hours, being the gym rat,

1022
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:39,119
as Richie would, in these moments that matter most.

1023
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:45,840
Speaker 7: So yeah, and I also would add that, you know,

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we'd all love to be a j De Bonsa and

1025
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:52,079
be six' nine and and super uber talented and, athletic

1026
00:47:52,199 --> 00:47:54,920
but most of us have to scrape and work hard

1027
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:56,320
to get you. KNOW i, Mean i'm not saying a

1028
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:58,719
doesn't work, hard but there's a lot of material for

1029
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:01,880
this hurt with, right and he's maybe going to be

1030
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:04,320
the number one pick in THE nba. Draft richie wasn't

1031
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:05,760
going to be the number one pick in THE nba,

1032
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:08,159
draft but he was going to show SOME nba guys

1033
00:48:08,159 --> 00:48:10,960
and he still. WILL i can be valuable to you

1034
00:48:11,199 --> 00:48:13,320
and your team and we can, win and you're going

1035
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:15,519
to love having me on your. Team and that's where

1036
00:48:15,559 --> 00:48:17,719
most of us come, from is we just want to

1037
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:20,480
be a part of something big and something, cool and

1038
00:48:20,599 --> 00:48:22,679
we're willing to put the effort. In and that's What richie.

1039
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 3: Issuing, yes, indeed my, Guy Darnald dixon double ed always

1040
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appreciate her. Time we you fought everyone to follow you

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Herald subscribe. Today thanks so much to DOUBLE. D all,

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