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Speaker 4: little bit delayed before we're.
Speaker 2: Here figuring it out, guys, figuring it out, sir.
Speaker 4: Sorry, I'm breaking news with some Arizona athletics news. The
Speaker 4: Arizona volleyball team advanced to seven and zero today.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 4: The Abilene Christian in the Borderland Invitational.
Speaker 2: Wow wow wow.
Speaker 3: This kind of reminds me of them. Not not to
Speaker 3: the degree of this, but I don't know who their
Speaker 3: opponents are, whether their quality or not. But you remember
Speaker 3: when we had a Dia Barnsley in here. I don't
Speaker 3: know I five years ago, and they're winning and and
Speaker 3: and and I said, you know, your competition says I
Speaker 3: got to teach them how to win first. Got to
Speaker 3: teach the win first, because because they didn't know how
Speaker 3: to win. They were that bad. And then you started
Speaker 3: learning how to win, and you win and you beat
Speaker 3: Texas on the road. You're taking what the hell is
Speaker 3: going on?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I think this could be a lot like that, where
Speaker 3: you get your wins, you feel good about yourself and
Speaker 3: you play hard, right, and you play well and you
Speaker 3: do well.
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, no, yeah, I mean you do. There is
Speaker 5: a thing about learning how to win for sure. And
Speaker 5: so yeah, no, I you know, good good for because
Speaker 5: they you know, the Voe struggled.
Speaker 2: Did they win seven last year?
Speaker 4: So last year they won eight games? Yeah, okay, already
Speaker 4: started the season seven and no, so.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we had around I don't know, a month ago
Speaker 3: or so. I mean she's very by the book, very
Speaker 3: you know, methodical how she says things.
Speaker 2: Yes, no, good for her.
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 4: They got a real good freshman.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I heard she like a like a from somewhere. So
Speaker 3: she was the top the top raider recruit. Yeah, out
Speaker 3: of high school so from where. And then they have
Speaker 3: like a big transfer, a nice transfer.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the transfer from Oregon. I believe it's
Speaker 4: a good mix. Yeah, a good mix of newcomers experience.
Speaker 4: So good for them. Seven and zero. Yeah, that's great. Unfortunately,
Speaker 4: Arizona Soccer lost their Big twelve opener to Utah.
Speaker 2: But they're they're doing well too, aren't they.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, they're they're playing well.
Speaker 2: Yeah. What's zero? I think they.
Speaker 4: In my opinion one zero is a decent boss.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: It was it on the road or was it here?
Speaker 4: I believe it was here?
Speaker 3: Or was it I thought it was on the road.
Speaker 3: I could be wrong. I don't know either, Okay, but yeah,
Speaker 3: but they're improved too.
Speaker 4: Yeah. To the NFL some injury news all across the league.
Speaker 4: Christian McCaffrey will be out for their Viking game this week,
Speaker 4: and they're considering putting him on.
Speaker 5: I R didn't you say yesterday I'm good to go?
Speaker 5: I thought I saw something a quote from him saying
Speaker 5: he was saying he was ready to go at least
Speaker 5: that's what I Maybe I'm wrong, but I thought I
Speaker 5: saw that.
Speaker 7: No.
Speaker 3: Coincidentally, he got married this year, so there's no coincidence.
Speaker 2: You're so mean. I'm not saying I haven't been on
Speaker 2: the IR since I've been single. Man to the Chiefs
Speaker 2: a lot, Steve.
Speaker 4: Their wide receiver Marquis Browns, will be undergoing the surgery.
Speaker 4: The Andy Reid said that it's not weeks, they're looking
Speaker 4: at months and possibly the season.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 5: Well, you know you feel bad for anybody, but you know,
Speaker 5: well are we are we going to talk about what's
Speaker 5: his name?
Speaker 2: Sure? Yep, yep?
Speaker 4: Well good seguay. Thursday night last night, Thursday Night football.
Speaker 4: The Bills won thirty one to ten, and unfortunately for
Speaker 4: the Dolphins, their quarterback to what Takabaaloa did go out
Speaker 4: with the concussion.
Speaker 3: And that's one of those things where you slide rather
Speaker 3: than you didn't you go ahead first. Uh, but you
Speaker 3: know he's a tough dude here and then now again
Speaker 3: he's gonna be injured.
Speaker 5: And that was one of those bad ones where his
Speaker 5: arms got, you know, all stiff.
Speaker 3: And what do they call that? Like stretch? They can't
Speaker 3: there's a term for it. They said it this morning
Speaker 3: a few times. The one I heard was rigoletto, I think,
Speaker 3: but it was more like as fencing, I think.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean got it, you know, yeah, I mean
Speaker 5: you really, I mean you have to think about your life, right.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 4: Skyler Thompson went in last night and he's from Kansas State.
Speaker 3: Okay, they need a quarterback for this team because they
Speaker 3: can score it anytime.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they got guys, right, got guys.
Speaker 4: They have the stars Tyreek Hill, Jaylen Waddle. Yeah, uh bet,
Speaker 4: it's just to to you know, this is I believe
Speaker 4: it is what third and fourth is?
Speaker 2: Fourth? Fourth? One?
Speaker 4: Yeah, fourth and three years or something like that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you got You gotta feel bad for
Speaker 5: him that that you know he's got all this talent,
Speaker 5: all this ability, all this stuff, and then you know
Speaker 5: that this is happening to him.
Speaker 3: Well, well, I thought you in a previous show before ours,
Speaker 3: they were talking about all the I think they're probably
Speaker 3: talking about stuff like this. There's a point when an athlete,
Speaker 3: a good athlete, has to figure I call it a day,
Speaker 3: that one game too many, and you and you take
Speaker 3: that chance and you get hit that one game too many,
Speaker 3: that one fight too many, right, and then you're.
Speaker 2: Thinking God should have just called it a day exactly.
Speaker 3: But but you don't know until you know one and two.
Speaker 3: Your competitor. So you're a competitor. You you want to play.
Speaker 1: This is what you do for lit.
Speaker 5: I mean, you know how many guys are you have
Speaker 5: such a hard time calling it a day when you
Speaker 5: know they need to call it a day.
Speaker 2: The end game is the is the bitch you know,
Speaker 2: you don't know when?
Speaker 5: Yeah, now, yeah, you feel bad for him. I mean,
Speaker 5: financially and all those things, he'll be fine, but.
Speaker 2: You know, I think they have to pay. They pay.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, he's got guaranteed money. But there's a There's
Speaker 5: also the thing of you live the rest of your
Speaker 5: life thinking what could have been? You know, some people
Speaker 5: can handle it, some people don't. And then if you
Speaker 5: got some sort of a brain injury or what, who
Speaker 5: knows what happened.
Speaker 2: You said, you're thinking what it could have been. At
Speaker 2: least you leave thinking no, no, I shouldn't laugh at that,
Speaker 2: but you're right, but you have your right. You need
Speaker 2: to you need to take that into consideration.
Speaker 5: Sure, and there's some guys say, well, I'd rather die
Speaker 5: on the field than not play.
Speaker 2: Well, that's a great option. That's not that's not such
Speaker 2: a great no, no, no, I hear you.
Speaker 4: Just a lot of coaches around the league are calling
Speaker 4: for it to retire.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then you're on the defensive side and you're
Speaker 3: still facing him anything. I got to get to that guy, right,
Speaker 3: But then I don't want to get to that guy and.
Speaker 4: Then of all guys too for the contact to be made.
Speaker 4: It was themar Hamlin.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I heard that. There was no I'm
Speaker 5: gonna it was tasteless. I'm not going to bring up
Speaker 5: a tweet that I saw about that. Okay, people, people
Speaker 5: were pretty twitter. Twitter has made the world work.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think you can say that. I
Speaker 4: think you can definitely say that. Yeah, all right, again,
Speaker 4: all the best wishes to do Yeah, and one agree
Speaker 4: with you. Continuing though with the Week three of the
Speaker 4: NFL got some good games. Saints visiting the Cowboys. Both
Speaker 4: went and out looked good.
Speaker 5: In the Week one that was almost gonna be our
Speaker 5: special game for the Yeah, I wouldn't know.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't know where to go with it, but yeah,
Speaker 2: that would have been a good one.
Speaker 4: We got the uh Rams and the Cardinals. Both teams
Speaker 4: are one, but they were good losses.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 4: The Cardinals battled the Bills. The Rams took on the Lions,
Speaker 4: they took them the overtime.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So I got invited to go to the game
Speaker 2: this weekend, that Rams and Cardinals game. I'm not going. Okay,
Speaker 2: have you been to an NFL game up there? Yeah?
Speaker 3: You got to leave like at six in the morning,
Speaker 3: it takes three hours to get through the traffic, and
Speaker 3: then it takes those three hours.
Speaker 2: No, I thank you, but I've done it in a
Speaker 2: couple of different ways.
Speaker 5: Once I just drove up, Yeah, an after you know,
Speaker 5: Sunday afternoon game, drove up, went to the game, took
Speaker 5: for you know, leave early, get get you know, get
Speaker 5: home late. Then I want I did one in style
Speaker 5: with a friend of ours that had a really nice
Speaker 5: motor home with direct TV and the whole bit, and
Speaker 5: we're watching games all the way up. You tailgated, you tailgated,
Speaker 5: you know, nice place, air conditioning, the whole bit. And
Speaker 5: then went back after the game, sat there for a
Speaker 5: couple hours, you know, watched the Sunday night game, and
Speaker 5: came home and I thought, okay, that's how you do that.
Speaker 2: But yeah, no, it's yeah, it's hard. So it's a
Speaker 2: long day. It's a long day because what you do. Yeah,
Speaker 2: even traffic on a normal day in Phoenix is just.
Speaker 5: We went to we went to a game the last
Speaker 5: year that the forty nine ers were Candlestick, we went
Speaker 5: to a game there.
Speaker 2: Same thing.
Speaker 5: Just getting in and out of Candlestick is was worse
Speaker 5: than getting in and out of Dodger Stadium.
Speaker 2: But same thing.
Speaker 5: You had to get there, you know, nine o'clock in
Speaker 5: the morning for one o'clock game, just to be able
Speaker 5: to get in on time, right, that kind of thing.
Speaker 2: But I hear you. You're not gonna go for too long.
Speaker 2: Think he's listening. No, No, he's in Phoenix and they
Speaker 2: have sweet tickets. It's nice tickets.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 2: Oh god, I did that two years three years ago.
Speaker 2: Now I'm getting it. I must getting.
Speaker 3: Because I would if I were your guys, h when
Speaker 3: I was a fan, I would have done it. Say okay, cool,
Speaker 3: can we do something afterward too?
Speaker 2: But I just want to say, you're such a You're
Speaker 2: such a grumpy old dude.
Speaker 5: Man, you really are. What I but you know what,
Speaker 5: if somebody invited me the game Sunday, probably wouldn't go.
Speaker 5: It's a one o'clock game too. Yeah, you kinda leap
Speaker 5: so earlight into traffic.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I mean, I love I love just sitting around on
Speaker 5: a Saturday or on a Sunday and watching watching games.
Speaker 5: Although this Sunday, Steve, I've got to put I got
Speaker 5: to put in a new garage door opener in my house.
Speaker 2: See, wife comes at you hard. It does, it does.
Speaker 4: Another good game. Bengals visiting the Chiefs, rematch from the
Speaker 4: AFC Championship a couple of years ago.
Speaker 2: I love that game, and you'll find out why so so.
Speaker 3: And then you got to the Bengal game. Bengals, you
Speaker 3: already don't. Well, he's got to go the other way
Speaker 3: with it because you already don't think dead to you
Speaker 3: if if form holds, Cincinnati is not a good team
Speaker 3: to pick. So we'll see where he goes with that one.
Speaker 3: Uh to two young quarterbacks going out at Sunday night.
Speaker 3: Bears visiting the Texans. See it was the first time
Speaker 3: against Stroud. Yeah, we'll see he did. I guess he didn't.
Speaker 3: I didn't see a lot of the game, but I
Speaker 3: guess he didn't look.
Speaker 2: Good last week. A defensive touchdown, a special team's touchdown
Speaker 2: or something like that.
Speaker 4: Right, they pulled it out, but the offense didn't score. Yeah,
Speaker 4: okay uh to the college world. The Georgia quarterback Daniel
Speaker 4: Harris was arrested today, charged after driving one hundred and
Speaker 4: six miles per.
Speaker 3: Hour, death taxes and a guy in Georgia with a
Speaker 3: speeding ticket that plays for the football team, the places
Speaker 3: for the football team.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
Speaker 5: They're a danger to their community. The whole football team
Speaker 5: is a danger to their damn community. These guys don't
Speaker 5: know what the hell is going on.
Speaker 2: They're making enough nil they can get an uber.
Speaker 5: Or somewhere, you know, And the fact that Kirby Smart
Speaker 5: will do nothing about it, it drives me crazy. You know,
Speaker 5: that just drives me crazy. What's this like the eighth
Speaker 5: or tenth guy that's been arrested for reckless driving and
Speaker 5: if they've killed some people, I mean, what the hell
Speaker 5: are we doing over there?
Speaker 3: Well, there's your thing of entitlement, you know, entitlement guys
Speaker 3: kids playing, I know.
Speaker 5: But if you're a coach of a program that's got
Speaker 5: a hundred dudes in there and that's the culture, you've
Speaker 5: got to do something.
Speaker 2: You've got to change that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but they've talked about this for years now.
Speaker 2: Well that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: I mean, don't don't you don't don't you tell your team, Okay,
Speaker 5: you get a traffic ticket, anything, you get a speeding ticket,
Speaker 5: you're suspended for a game. And if you get a
Speaker 5: reckless driving you're off the team. Boom wouldn't don't wouldn't
Speaker 5: that help?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean I would think it would.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's work, it works all the way up
Speaker 4: the ladder middle school, and he's just.
Speaker 2: This week. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, we're three dudes in a room talking about this.
Speaker 3: You're not the coach making millions and need the guy
Speaker 3: to do it easy for you, you know easy. And
Speaker 3: when you're a parent, your kids are not do what
Speaker 3: you said them to do.
Speaker 2: Yeah. But if my kid gets a reckless driving and
Speaker 2: they take him to jail, that's that wasn't my question.
Speaker 2: He's spending the night in jail. Oh I don't disagree
Speaker 2: with that. But did your kids always listen to you? No? No, okay,
Speaker 2: let's move on. No, I hear you, But they didn't
Speaker 2: do stuff like that. And I almost got out there,
Speaker 2: I did you do stuff like that?
Speaker 7: Well?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just didn't get caught. That's welcome to the
Speaker 2: Georgia football program. Pot. This is cattle, all right.
Speaker 4: And then, of course, uh, Week three college football got
Speaker 4: some good matchups. Alabama visiting Wisconsin. I'm not sure how good.
Speaker 2: That one is.
Speaker 3: You think, Well, you know what the thing is in
Speaker 3: our mind, we think Alabama's Alabama.
Speaker 2: Alabama right. Alabama was in Alabama because the.
Speaker 5: Coaching Wisconsin has been Wisconsin for a long time, right,
Speaker 5: That's why I didn't touch it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 4: Alabama struggled last I mean when you think of that,
Speaker 4: when you think of the stay right now, when you
Speaker 4: think of the programs, yes, you say Alabama Wisconsin.
Speaker 5: That's one of those games that we're always asking for.
Speaker 5: I'm really not sure how good a game that that is.
Speaker 5: I mean, I think the Arizona Kansas State game is
Speaker 5: a better game, right.
Speaker 4: A lot of people were talking about it. They said,
Speaker 4: this game tonight should have been done tomorrow. It probably
Speaker 4: would have been the game day game. Yeah, it could
Speaker 4: have been that game. Yeah, but who knew?
Speaker 2: Who knew?
Speaker 7: Uh?
Speaker 4: You got Boston College going to Missouri both to and
Speaker 4: OH teams.
Speaker 5: Boston College is getting like sixteen points, right yep? And
Speaker 5: they didn't didn't. They just beat the crap out of
Speaker 5: Florida State. That's what I thought I remember seeing, although
Speaker 5: maybe we don't know how bad Florida State might be.
Speaker 5: I didn't pick that one though, Steve, even though I
Speaker 5: feel like that's a lot of points for a Boston
Speaker 5: College to be getting, to be getting it took something else.
Speaker 4: Okay, all right, you got the Civil War or the
Speaker 4: organ School going. That's our special game this week.
Speaker 1: We got it.
Speaker 2: We both got to pick that. It just feels wrong.
Speaker 2: Well in Washington.
Speaker 5: Washington State are also playing this week the Appy in September.
Speaker 4: September.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what the Oregon State and Washington State get
Speaker 5: for sucking and not being able to, you know, go
Speaker 5: with everybody else to one of the conferences.
Speaker 4: You also got a Colorado visiting Colorado State. We'll see
Speaker 4: how they bounce back if they do.
Speaker 5: And I'm a huge fan of the Rams, huge fan
Speaker 5: of Colorado tea tea. No, no, that's not no, no,
Speaker 5: I'm just I'm just rooting for Colorado State to win
Speaker 5: that game. I guess one of their players came out
Speaker 5: and said, we should have murdered them last year. But
Speaker 5: they which somebody from Colorado State, and they should have
Speaker 5: they did. They had them on the ropes.
Speaker 2: They did have them on the ropes. They should have
Speaker 2: had them. All right, that's all I got it. Okay,
Speaker 2: I have one more. Do we have time a minute
Speaker 2: or so? Yeah?
Speaker 5: Uh no, we got to get out of here. It's
Speaker 5: quarter after all right, we'll hit the road. I'll bring
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Speaker 6: How you doing? I am good?
Speaker 2: Thanks?
Speaker 6: How you guys?
Speaker 2: Fine? Thank you? Have you been sitting down waiting for
Speaker 2: news since.
Speaker 3: The PAC twelve it was gone? Now you finally have
Speaker 3: stuff to write about or it's always been this way.
Speaker 15: It's been a pretty busy two years, la, and that's
Speaker 15: say we're leaving. It's been pretty busy. This week was
Speaker 15: close to one of the busiest.
Speaker 5: I gotta say, did was there any inkling from anywhere
Speaker 5: that this was coming together.
Speaker 2: Coming well?
Speaker 6: It kind of depends coming together.
Speaker 7: Yes, coming together exactly on Wednesday night Thursday morning. No,
Speaker 7: I caught me a little bit by surprise.
Speaker 6: But once the.
Speaker 7: Scheduling agreement deadline came and went between the PAC twelve
Speaker 7: and the Mount West for the twenty twenty five season,
Speaker 7: you kind of felt like, all right, something's gonna happen soon.
Speaker 6: But you never you know, with realignment, you never know.
Speaker 6: It kind of comes out of nowhere.
Speaker 2: But kind of what you expected.
Speaker 3: We are Obviously more is gonna come with more teams
Speaker 3: and more schools coming in, but kind of what you
Speaker 3: maybe thought in.
Speaker 2: The first phase, Yeah.
Speaker 7: I mean, for sure, the most likely scenario was gonna
Speaker 7: be some collection of Mount West schools joining Washington State
Speaker 7: and Oregon State competing under the PAC twelve banner.
Speaker 6: Now, whether it was gonna be four.
Speaker 16: Schools, six schools, twelve schools, that was a little up
Speaker 16: in the air, but this top grouping was, I mean,
Speaker 16: there was by far the most likely scenario that they
Speaker 16: were gonna be in the same conferences Washington State and
Speaker 16: Oregon State.
Speaker 5: Were you surprised they only they only took the uh
Speaker 5: the six that they did and they didn't go.
Speaker 6: Or was it four that that was four to make six?
Speaker 2: Florida make six?
Speaker 6: Right?
Speaker 5: That that they only took four and that you know
Speaker 5: UNLV's not in there. Maybe San Jose State, I mean
Speaker 5: that they didn't go to the eight. Right now, what
Speaker 5: are they doing?
Speaker 6: Well, they're kind of they're buying themselves in time.
Speaker 7: They needed something in order to basically say to the
Speaker 7: world the PAC twelve is going to live on uh
Speaker 7: and those four knew that they wanted to leave, but
Speaker 7: they are kind of reserving space to see if they
Speaker 7: can get some other schools. I think they are going
Speaker 7: to look to the east to see about expanding the footprint.
Speaker 7: Is months available UTSA, Tulane, those kind of schools, maybe
Speaker 7: even South Florida or Texas State.
Speaker 16: They want to see if they can expand the footprints,
Speaker 16: and if they can't, then they know they can circle
Speaker 16: back to the Mountain West and perhaps get UNLV and
Speaker 16: air Force and schools like that.
Speaker 3: Well, it's obviously a lose for the Mountain West because
Speaker 3: they've lost some key, key teams or key schools. What
Speaker 3: do you think there, what's the vibe at the PAC
Speaker 3: twelve office saying, Okay, this is the start of us
Speaker 3: kind of coming back in some form.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's I think it's being felt at the PAC
Speaker 7: twelve and also on the two campuses, like all right,
Speaker 7: this is the start of our our rebirth, so to speak. Right,
Speaker 7: I mean, it's gonna be a viable conference starting in
Speaker 7: the summer of twenty twenty six. They know that they
Speaker 7: can get two schools, so it'll be a minimum of
Speaker 7: an eight team league. And you know what, it's gonna
Speaker 7: be a pretty good football league. With the six they have,
Speaker 7: that's not a bad league. Now we'll see who else
Speaker 7: they add that will kind of help determine what their
Speaker 7: TV deal is.
Speaker 6: Like you know just what the overall it is. But
Speaker 6: they've got the you know, the core group of a
Speaker 6: decent football conference.
Speaker 5: Saying that though they're not going to be a power school, right,
Speaker 5: they're gonna be a group of five or group of
Speaker 5: quarter six or whatever it becomes.
Speaker 7: Well, yeah, they're not gonna The thing is that designation
Speaker 7: power power four and and group of five. It doesn't
Speaker 7: really matter with the new playoff, right because the five
Speaker 7: highest rank conference champions are going to get.
Speaker 6: In oh okay qualifiers, and that's not that's not changing.
Speaker 7: There's there are like if you assume that the sec
Speaker 7: ACC Big ten and Big twelve winners will be four
Speaker 7: of the five highest ranked conference champions, then there's one
Speaker 7: more spot and that spot would go to the best
Speaker 7: team from either the rebuilt Pac twelve, the American the
Speaker 7: Sun Belt Conference USA. So you know, the rebuilt Pack
Speaker 7: twe it is going to have a pretty decent chance
Speaker 7: of sending its its champion to the playoff.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, so it's this is all about money.
Speaker 2: It's always been all about money.
Speaker 3: So the Pac twelve, as you as you know, and
Speaker 3: you can tell us it has tons of money because
Speaker 3: they're not paying any of the teams that left, right,
Speaker 3: So I'm sure the Mountain West schools are saying, oh,
Speaker 3: now we have some money.
Speaker 2: Well the you mean the four that are coming years
Speaker 2: that are.
Speaker 6: Going in the Pack twelve.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: The thing is they, oh, there's a lot of exit fees.
Speaker 6: I mean, it breaks down to about.
Speaker 7: Twenty five twenty six million dollars for each of the
Speaker 7: four schools to enter the PAC twelve. Now that's a
Speaker 7: combination of a penalty that the Pack twelve owes the
Speaker 7: Mountain West and it's also the exit fees that those schools,
Speaker 7: oh the Mountain West. So it's like one hundred and
Speaker 7: ten million dollars total. You know, the PAC twlve's got
Speaker 7: a lot of money. They've got over the course of time.
Speaker 7: They have two hundred and fifty million dollars at their disposal.
Speaker 7: Some of that is going to Oregon State Washington State
Speaker 7: to to basically fund their athletic operations. But there's a
Speaker 7: lot of money there, and so that will be used
Speaker 7: to help pay those departure penalties, and then you know,
Speaker 7: they the four schools coming in will get whatever TV
Speaker 7: deal the PAC twelve is able to put together and
Speaker 7: that money is that penalty money is going to go
Speaker 7: to the Mountain West, and the Mountain West schools will
Speaker 7: do be that up between them, I guess, and or
Speaker 7: they'll use it to try to expand themselves.
Speaker 6: See what the Mountain West does next?
Speaker 5: Well yeah, and that's the thing now, Okay, So not
Speaker 5: what is the Mountain Western? They've lost four of their
Speaker 5: best schools, particularly football schools. You know, are they going
Speaker 5: to go try and you know, round somebody up? And
Speaker 5: you know, one of the discussions I heard was maybe
Speaker 5: they go get some of the best FCS teams like
Speaker 5: a Montana, Montana State, maybe North Dakota State, some of those.
Speaker 2: I mean, the things a long way from being done.
Speaker 2: But what are your thoughts on where they go?
Speaker 7: For some more?
Speaker 6: It is a long way from being done. I don't
Speaker 6: know that the FCS schools are going to want to
Speaker 6: do it.
Speaker 7: Because I don't think the Mountain West is gonna be
Speaker 7: able to put together a TV deal. I mean, all
Speaker 7: of the all of the schools that have value the
Speaker 7: TV are moving into the PAC twelve. So if there's
Speaker 7: no TV deal, what is the incentive for the Montana schools?
Speaker 2: For instance?
Speaker 6: To join. They're better off being you know, big fishes
Speaker 6: in the FCS.
Speaker 7: Then they are moving in the FBS and struggling to survive,
Speaker 7: which is essentially what would happen. So I'm skeptical of that.
Speaker 7: I think the Mount West is in serious trouble of
Speaker 7: just you know, just banding, much more serious trouble than
Speaker 7: the PAC twelve was. Because Washington State and Oregon State
Speaker 7: always had the option to go into the Mount West
Speaker 7: to get the best schools. The Mountain West doesn't have
Speaker 7: anywhere to turn. I mean, I don't think that school's
Speaker 7: Sunbelt or Conference USA are going to come to the
Speaker 7: Mount West because there's not going to be a TV
Speaker 7: deal available.
Speaker 6: They're better off where they are.
Speaker 3: So I don't think you guys have mentioned we did
Speaker 3: yesterday Jay with Vegas and Nevada, you know, the and Nevada.
Speaker 2: What are their chances right? Right? What happened there that
Speaker 2: you and lv didn't get included in this.
Speaker 7: Because of the there's some state politics involved, and it's
Speaker 7: lenov basically needs clearance to separate from RENA from the
Speaker 7: Reno campus, and it sounds to me like they.
Speaker 6: Don't have that clearance yet.
Speaker 7: And that was part of the reason that they are
Speaker 7: not in this first wave of schools going into the
Speaker 7: PAC twelve. Now, we'll see in the next three to
Speaker 7: six months if UNLV gets approval to go to the
Speaker 7: PAC twelve and leave Nevada behind. If they don't, then
Speaker 7: you know, that's that's a school that PACTROV won't have
Speaker 7: the option to get.
Speaker 6: But that's a state a largely a state political issue.
Speaker 5: We're talking to John Wilner from the Wilner high Line
Speaker 5: and the Santa's American News. John, But I mean un
Speaker 5: LV and Nevad weren't even in the same conference for
Speaker 5: the longest time. It was only until relatively recently that
Speaker 5: they both wound up in the Mountain West.
Speaker 2: When did when did they get joined at the hip
Speaker 2: like that?
Speaker 7: You know, I don't know the background of what's going
Speaker 7: on there with their with its system, but at some
Speaker 7: point someone over there is going to realize that, you know,
Speaker 7: Nevada has got no place to go.
Speaker 6: And so are you going to also prevent un l
Speaker 6: V from from.
Speaker 7: Getting into the PAC twelve or are you going to
Speaker 7: relegate both of them to a much lesser existence. I
Speaker 7: have to think somebody will eventually get smart and realize
Speaker 7: they're better off at least letting UNLV get get the
Speaker 7: PAC twelve money and the PAC twelve platform, because if
Speaker 7: they don't, I mean again, the Mountain West is very
Speaker 7: seriously in jeopardy of total collapse and disintegration, and they
Speaker 7: want both of schools at that fate, or you know,
Speaker 7: at least get UNLV into a life raft.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we both know the Mount West commissioner and Glory
Speaker 5: and of ours from her time at the PAC twelve.
Speaker 5: Have you had a chance to talk to her? Has
Speaker 5: anybody talked to her? And what's been what's she saying?
Speaker 6: I have not spoken to her. I reached out to
Speaker 6: her earlier this week. I have not spoken to her.
Speaker 7: I think that you know, they are like the pone ones,
Speaker 7: you know a year ago or two years ago when
Speaker 7: Lee left right, you're caught by surprise and you're scrambling
Speaker 7: to come together and come up with options. Meanwhile, the
Speaker 7: schools themselves are trying to call to get into other conferences.
Speaker 6: They're looking for life boats. Yeah, so a tough situation.
Speaker 7: I would argue that the mount West might have misplayed
Speaker 7: its hands a little bit right once the PAC twelve
Speaker 7: schools got two hundred and fifty million dollars in Assetsuntain.
Speaker 6: I should have known, you know what, we need to
Speaker 6: hold them as close.
Speaker 7: As we can rather than kind of creating a invisible
Speaker 7: wall here, and instead they kind of created an invisible wall.
Speaker 7: So we'll see what happens to the Mountain West. But
Speaker 7: they are in scramble mode right now.
Speaker 3: Well in essence, in essence, the Pac twelve will now
Speaker 3: be the Mountain West, or you know, a souped up
Speaker 3: Mountain West. No New Mexico, right, No Colorado State.
Speaker 7: They got Colorado State, but no, just no, they don't
Speaker 7: have They're probably not going to end up with Utah State,
Speaker 7: Santurday State, Nevada, Hawaii, maybe in Mexico.
Speaker 6: Those schools are in a little bit of trouble.
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, yeah, no question.
Speaker 7: But you know it will You could argue it's going
Speaker 7: to be a souped up Mountain West, but let's see
Speaker 7: first who they get. Because if there's a way for
Speaker 7: them to get Tulane and UTSA and a couple other schools,
Speaker 7: then is it's a souped up Mountain West but with
Speaker 7: a much larger footprint, And you know that could be
Speaker 7: kind of an interesting conference. I think it's a pretty
Speaker 7: good football conference even with just those six, but we'll
Speaker 7: see where things go.
Speaker 5: Any predictions on what kind of a TV contract they
Speaker 5: can get, because I think what the Mountain West gets
Speaker 5: six right now?
Speaker 2: Six million?
Speaker 7: Yeah, the average the Mountain West average over the six years,
Speaker 7: I think rounds out to about five million per school.
Speaker 7: I think the pack the new PAC twelve could could
Speaker 7: certainly double that are very close to doubling it, and
Speaker 7: that it also depends on who else they add. I mean,
Speaker 7: if they added a Memphis and a two lane, maybe
Speaker 7: that gets more money because they have more time zones
Speaker 7: and more kickoff windows. But I think anything in the nine,
Speaker 7: ten eleven million dollar range is probably pretty reasonable for
Speaker 7: the rebuilt PAC twelve, and anything about.
Speaker 6: That would be a huge victory.
Speaker 7: Now, remember the Mountain West has is getting five million
Speaker 7: a year basically, but that's with the low average valued
Speaker 7: school right those schools are not part of the new
Speaker 7: PAC twelve. It's only the above average valued schools that
Speaker 7: are joining the PAC twelve.
Speaker 5: Now, what's the long term here for Oregon State and
Speaker 5: Washington State if they're in a league now or instead
Speaker 5: of getting thirty million dollars they're getting ten eleven, twelve
Speaker 5: million dollars. I mean, at some point this money that
Speaker 5: they got with the breakup of the Pac twelve runs out.
Speaker 5: They're spending it like crazy obviously to get more teams.
Speaker 5: At some point they're gonna have to operate far below
Speaker 5: what they've been getting revenue wise. It, at least from
Speaker 5: a TV standpoint.
Speaker 6: Yeah, they oh, for sure, they will. Absolutely.
Speaker 7: The difference between what they're going to get and what
Speaker 7: the Big twelve is getting is basically going to be
Speaker 7: the difference between.
Speaker 6: The Big twelve and the Big Ten, right in terms
Speaker 6: of millions of dollars.
Speaker 7: Now, that does not count post college football playoff money
Speaker 7: and then split tournament money, but just from a TV
Speaker 7: deal standpoint, you know, the rebuilt PAC twelve will be
Speaker 7: at ten million, say, and the Big twelve is at
Speaker 7: thirty million, and the Big ten is at like sixty million.
Speaker 7: Now they supplement that with the playoff and March madness,
Speaker 7: but that's kind of how the broadcast television deals are
Speaker 7: gonna work, and the Beavers and Cougars are gonna have
Speaker 7: to certainly adjust their budgets, There's no doubt about that.
Speaker 7: And it's that's gonna be hard in this era when
Speaker 7: you've got to share revenue with the players.
Speaker 6: Certainly they have got an uphill climb, there's no doubt.
Speaker 2: Well, John Wilner, you appreciate your time and keeping us updated.
Speaker 5: Wait wait, wait, wait a minute, are you still like
Speaker 5: paying attention to Arizona, Arizona State?
Speaker 2: Those guys?
Speaker 6: You mean the undefeated Air Sun Devils.
Speaker 5: Those ones and the undefeated Arizona Wildcats. They got a
Speaker 5: big game tonight, Kansas State?
Speaker 2: What do you think they do?
Speaker 6: Have a huge game tonight. I'm looking forward to that.
Speaker 5: What do you what do you think on that one?
Speaker 5: Are you giving or taking the seven? Are you giving
Speaker 5: or taking the seven?
Speaker 6: I think I would probably take the seven. I think
Speaker 6: it's gonna be tough.
Speaker 7: You know, road games Friday road games are hard, and
Speaker 7: Kansas State is good. The thing that I'm looking forward
Speaker 7: to is it's gonna tell us where Arizona fits in
Speaker 7: the Big Twelve, even though it's not technically conference right,
Speaker 7: If they can go in there and win or play
Speaker 7: a tight game deep in the fourth quarter, you know,
Speaker 7: then you have to figure Arizona's in the top group
Speaker 7: of front runners for the Big Twelve playoff spots.
Speaker 2: All right, man, Yeah, yeah, I agree totally. Thanks John. Hey, John,
Speaker 2: appreciate it be well.
Speaker 6: Thanks a lot of guys.
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Speaker 1: on the Ball with Steve Rivera and Jay Gonzalez on
Speaker 1: Fox Sports fourteen fifty.
Speaker 3: Hey, welcome back to I on the Ball hero Fox
Speaker 3: Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera, He's jaginsauf got our
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Speaker 2: We got about the twenty minute fifteen minutes. Now, we
Speaker 2: got our picks. Five Friday picks. Man, you got you
Speaker 2: got the champion of the world right now, right, you
Speaker 2: got the check. We gotta go first, you know you
Speaker 2: get your one pick? Yeah, okay, all right, I got
Speaker 2: all right going. We got our five picks again.
Speaker 5: Three college or two college, two pro, and then you
Speaker 5: can usually you can pick whatever you want culture appro
Speaker 5: for your fifth I always go three college. Steve always
Speaker 5: goes three pro, so I have a little difference there.
Speaker 5: We both got to pick the Civil War, the Oregon
Speaker 5: State Oregon game. So we'll both picked that one.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 5: And these are spreads that we we we lock in
Speaker 5: our spreads on Thursday, so these were yesterday spreads. They
Speaker 5: may have changed a little bit today, all right, So
Speaker 5: I am staying staying on the Longhorn bandwagon. My first
Speaker 5: pick is I'm taking Texas or giving thirty five and
Speaker 5: a half too, I don't remember, and it didn't matter
Speaker 5: to me. I was good to take them no matter what.
Speaker 5: Right is the utsaad Gosh, I should have had that down, Okay,
Speaker 5: I got Texas giving thirty five and a half to UTSA.
Speaker 5: I just think I just think they're really damn good.
Speaker 5: Not at some point they're gonna crash and burn, you know,
Speaker 5: they're gonna lose a game that they shouldn't or whatever,
Speaker 5: because that's what Steve Sarkisian does. But I just think
Speaker 5: they're they are so good right now, it just won't
Speaker 5: be tomorrow, and well we'll see. I'm taking that's a
Speaker 5: big point spread, I know, but I just think Texas
Speaker 5: is just they're just damn good and they're on a roll.
Speaker 5: So Texas mine is thirty five and a half against utsa.
Speaker 3: Okay, sounds good to me, and I really don't care
Speaker 3: about that one. So I'm gonna break your heart right
Speaker 3: away with my college pick, my first college pick. I'm
Speaker 3: going with Colorado over Colorado State for no other reason
Speaker 3: than I just think they're ready to play well for
Speaker 3: a game because they have to.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the spread is what, it's not very big.
Speaker 2: I don't ge.
Speaker 3: It's like six or seven. Yeah, it's seven. I think
Speaker 3: it's gonna be a bit. I think they'll show up
Speaker 3: for this one. They sty're better than what they showed.
Speaker 3: Are they any good? I don't, But they have to
Speaker 3: start winning a game or two here.
Speaker 2: I think they're gonna win the game. I just don't
Speaker 2: want him to. Yeah, yeah, so why pick it up.
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna I'm just gonna be a troll and
Speaker 2: say I hope you lose. Okay, but now I.
Speaker 5: In the endsty they still got They've got good players.
Speaker 5: They just don't have enough good players in the right
Speaker 5: places too, you know, I mean, should they.
Speaker 2: Be Coloro State? Of course? This is also maybe you
Speaker 2: guys would chime in.
Speaker 3: Last year, they were playing really well for the first
Speaker 3: five weeks, right, they won't last one and then they
Speaker 3: tanked it for the rest in that Stanford game when
Speaker 3: they had that that.
Speaker 2: Kind of put him in the in the in the
Speaker 2: edition toilet.
Speaker 3: But at some point, and I think I think this
Speaker 3: is the case, at least in my mind, that they
Speaker 3: started to they started to wilt over everything right there,
Speaker 3: and it was almost like the team gave up. And
Speaker 3: that happens, right especially in a in a coaching system
Speaker 3: like this where it might be overbearing and you say,
Speaker 3: you know, he doesn't care about us, we don't care
Speaker 3: about Unlet's just go and play and not care. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm not saying that happen, but it sure looked like it. Well,
Speaker 3: it sure went all the hell in the handbasket that
Speaker 3: he could recover. Yeah, and they got They never did recover.
Speaker 3: You're you're not You're wagging your head like, yes, right,
Speaker 3: you gotta believe what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, the fact that they couldn't get that
Speaker 4: Stanford game just threw everything that was. They started looking
Speaker 4: at next season and they started looking and going somewhere
Speaker 4: else too, a whole bunch of them.
Speaker 3: And they're also going to come a point where this
Speaker 3: year where the pressure, whatever you call it, is uh
Speaker 3: is on d on the focus and then the chador,
Speaker 3: all these the kids, uh, and they can't they can't
Speaker 3: perform to what they're expecting.
Speaker 5: Well, let's say, let's remember what's his name? Shadow broke
Speaker 5: his arm and he got a good player out, you know,
Speaker 5: So all right, Okay, I'm okay with that, Steve. You
Speaker 5: didn't break my heart with that. Okay, all right, Well
Speaker 5: that's all right, taking another big name, of taking another
Speaker 5: blue blood. I'm gonna ride uh Oklahoma. I think that
Speaker 5: uh you know, I know they barely be Houston last week.
Speaker 5: So I'm to say that in this particular case, the
Speaker 5: coaches getting their attention, they know they got to do
Speaker 5: better than that.
Speaker 2: They're in the SEC.
Speaker 5: They can't be scrubbing against against teams like like Houston
Speaker 5: like they did last week. So I've got Oklahoma. They're
Speaker 5: giving thirteen to I don't even remember who again, Lane
Speaker 5: to Lange, there you go. I think to Lane got
Speaker 5: a little full of itself in the way they they
Speaker 5: hung with Kansas State last week. I think they're disappointed
Speaker 5: that they lost that game. I think they're just a
Speaker 5: little bummed about themselves. And I think Oklahoma's just gonna
Speaker 5: go in there and beat the hell out of them,
Speaker 5: giving thirteen.
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, did Iver analyzed that every game. I would
Speaker 2: be surprised if you didn't over analysy game. Okay. So
Speaker 2: now I'm gonna go to pro because I want to
Speaker 2: say my oh yeah, you got you gotta do Oregon State.
Speaker 3: Okay, So I'm gonna take Detroit again, my second time
Speaker 3: picking Detroit.
Speaker 2: Who they play?
Speaker 3: I have this Tampa Bay, Tapa Bay. It's a home game,
Speaker 3: I think it is. I'm going to take a given
Speaker 3: seven and a half and half. The hook is going
Speaker 3: to probably kill me. But seven and a half in
Speaker 3: Detroit minus?
Speaker 2: Did I tell you that?
Speaker 5: I that I I they finished up by scoring the
Speaker 5: touchdown and overtime that they scored. I hit a three
Speaker 5: team parlay with that because I needed a touchdown, you know,
Speaker 5: because because you think they're going to go. Yeah, the
Speaker 5: line was the line was I had I had gotten
Speaker 5: the line at three and a half.
Speaker 2: It was six.
Speaker 5: It was six and a half. But I got it
Speaker 5: three and a half because I bet it. After Denver
Speaker 5: it kicked a field goal on its opening drive and
Speaker 5: the and the line dropped at three and a half.
Speaker 2: No, they didn't play who that Denver? Who did they
Speaker 2: play the reps? Right?
Speaker 5: Uh, that was a different game. That was Seahawks. That
Speaker 5: happened to me with Seahawks were six and a half.
Speaker 5: I got them at three and a half, but then
Speaker 5: I closed it out. But again the line was three
Speaker 5: and a half, right, so you had to have a touchdown.
Speaker 2: So I got that, and I got that. That's what
Speaker 2: it was they got. I got confused. Okay, all right,
Speaker 2: you got confused, right, duck down?
Speaker 5: That never happens, all right, all right, my net, Well, okay,
Speaker 5: my lock, I'm locking this. Those Chiefs over those damn
Speaker 5: crap butt head.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah see I knew he's
Speaker 3: going to do Yeah, so he overreacts.
Speaker 2: It's the overreaction, over reactions.
Speaker 5: The Chiefs are at home, they're only giving five. The
Speaker 5: Bengals just suck.
Speaker 2: That is a small line for that game.
Speaker 5: It is you know, I think if that game, I
Speaker 5: think if that line's seven and a half, I probably
Speaker 5: won't take it.
Speaker 2: They got they got win by touchdown. Yeah, but you didn't.
Speaker 2: Checks are good. You didn't.
Speaker 3: In factor in the Gonzales factor from last week's That
Speaker 3: is true, Bengals.
Speaker 2: It is true.
Speaker 5: The Chase by five. I'm gonna lock that up. I
Speaker 5: feel like that's a I'm just gonna say, I feel
Speaker 5: like it's a good pick.
Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, So my next pick is an NFL game.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go on the other side with I'm going
Speaker 3: with the Jaguars because I think the Browns are bad
Speaker 3: and Jaguars just named the new stadium after the quarterback,
Speaker 3: and they lost last week against Miami, so I think
Speaker 3: they'll win this.
Speaker 2: The spread is only three. So will it mess you
Speaker 2: up if I told you that I thought about taking that, No,
Speaker 2: because you didn't take it, Okay, Yeah, because.
Speaker 5: I did think about taking it, but I thought then
Speaker 5: I saw the Chiefs, I saw the Chiefs points spread,
Speaker 5: and I said, okay, I'm taking I'm taking the Chiefs
Speaker 5: the Browns. The Browns look really bad, you know, Shaun
Speaker 5: Watson looks terrible. He's got all this on his mind. Now,
Speaker 5: this stuff that came up this week. That's a pretty
Speaker 5: good pick, Steve.
Speaker 2: I'll have that one. Yeah, okay, all right, all right.
Speaker 5: My next pick, you know, I'm just gonna I'm just
Speaker 5: gonna ride the cream, just taking the cream.
Speaker 2: Nothing but cream here.
Speaker 5: I'm taking the forty nine ers, McCaffrey's I even I
Speaker 5: eve'n took this after McCaffrey announced that he was out,
Speaker 5: because that guy that they got last week was pretty
Speaker 5: damn good. And the forty nine ers are just good.
Speaker 5: I like, I like, I like what I see. They're
Speaker 5: giving five at the Vikings. Vikings don't excite me, you know,
Speaker 5: I think, and the forty nine ers are solid in
Speaker 5: places that travel, Their defense is really good, they can
Speaker 5: run the ball rock party wasn't even spectacular last week.
Speaker 5: He was just solid, and and that's who they are,
Speaker 5: and and I think that that's a that's that's how
Speaker 5: they're gonna win games all year long. And you know what,
Speaker 5: they know, McCaffrey's out, so they don't need to do
Speaker 5: anything fancy. They're just gonna win there and grind out.
Speaker 5: And I think they've got I think got a touchdown
Speaker 5: winning that one.
Speaker 1: One.
Speaker 2: Was that an over analysis? That over analysis, It is
Speaker 2: a little bit, just a little bit, okays, be nice
Speaker 2: to you.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 3: I thought that I had some Cisco and I scratched
Speaker 3: them for Jacksonville, So I kind of I kind of
Speaker 3: agree with that picked not so much with the over analysis,
Speaker 3: but I agree with that. Okay, So my lock for
Speaker 3: pros is going to be Baltimore. I really like they're
Speaker 3: a good teams. They're gonna be I think they could
Speaker 3: even get to the super Bowl this year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, with Anthony Richardson Baltimore. Oh, Baltimoke is thinking
Speaker 2: Colts Baltimore. You know where you're at Universal Studio in
Speaker 2: half over.
Speaker 4: Las Vegas.
Speaker 2: Yeahs.
Speaker 3: And of course you know Las Vegas stuck it up
Speaker 3: against Chargers Rest last week. Uh, the former U bag
Speaker 3: guy Anthony an Antonio. So I like Baltimore. I like
Speaker 3: them a lot this year. So they're my lock.
Speaker 2: Well well, and and they I mean, they played a
Speaker 2: really good game against the Chiefs. It's just yeah, they
Speaker 2: just lost. They just lost.
Speaker 3: Hard to beat and you have to play really well
Speaker 3: to beat the Chiefs, and they were right there.
Speaker 5: Yeah for most of the games they gave him, So
Speaker 5: they gave themselves a chance. All right, that's your lock,
Speaker 5: all right, I like that. I'll roll with that one.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 5: Now we both got to pick Oregon State giving or
Speaker 5: getting six and a half against Oregon. Game is in Corvellis.
Speaker 5: It's the Civil War. And I said to somebody, this
Speaker 5: might actually be or like a real civil war. Oregon
Speaker 5: State fan is pissed. Oregon fan Oregon thinks that they're
Speaker 5: all that it always has and always has. Sixteen and
Speaker 5: a half in a rivalry game, it seems like a lot.
Speaker 5: And because of that, I am going to take Oregon
Speaker 5: State because I just think that, I.
Speaker 2: Mean, Oregon's not been good. They had they went to
Speaker 2: overtime against Boise State. They barely beat somebody the week before,
Speaker 2: who was it, Idaho? Idaho? Right, they just haven't looked good.
Speaker 5: Now, if you're on the other side of this, you're saying, Okay, well,
Speaker 5: it's time that they look good.
Speaker 2: They've got guys to look good.
Speaker 5: But I just think that in a game with this
Speaker 5: kind of emotion and at the first time they've played
Speaker 5: each other since one of them ditched the other, I
Speaker 5: think it's a big deal. And I think Oregon State
Speaker 5: is gonna be a little more fired up, a little
Speaker 5: more bouncing its step, and it's at home. So I
Speaker 5: want Oregon State plus the sixteen and a half.
Speaker 3: Okay, well, I'm sorry to say I'm gonna agree with
Speaker 3: you on that. Pick sixty and a half. A lot
Speaker 3: of points I think I saw in trends that Oregon
Speaker 3: State has covered eighteen of twenty two of those games.
Speaker 3: Because you know, rivalry games are crazy, and this game
Speaker 3: you think, okay, if you're just a normal dude who
Speaker 3: picked this game, he said Oregon, Oregon State, Oregon is
Speaker 3: gonna kill him. That never happens. It's like the issue
Speaker 3: U of a game, right, you say, oh, that game
Speaker 3: is easy, and then it never happens. Right, Weird things happen.
Speaker 3: So I'm going with Oregon State as well plus sixteen
Speaker 3: and a half, all right, which which is very strange
Speaker 3: of me to do this, But I'm taking Oregon State
Speaker 3: all right.
Speaker 5: By the way, send me a reminders I post the
Speaker 5: pics this week. Yes, don't send me the reminder on
Speaker 5: Monday asking me if I did.
Speaker 2: I'm looking for him. What the hell? What's your pick?
Speaker 2: What's your pick? All right?
Speaker 4: But you got there's some good games this week, a
Speaker 4: fun game. I was looking at UCF and TCU. You
Speaker 4: got the Apple Cup, Boston College, Missouri. What I took
Speaker 4: was Florida over Texas A and M.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 7: I think.
Speaker 4: Right now they have A and M by four three
Speaker 4: and a half. Maybe I'm not sure you're taking the
Speaker 4: points I got Florida by two touchdowns. Why, I think
Speaker 4: they have a really good quarterback. Now, yeah, I didn't
Speaker 4: trust mergers. They changed quarterbacks, quarterbacks, they got the freshman.
Speaker 4: Uh and we've seen what happens when there's an injury
Speaker 4: and a freshman comes in steps up.
Speaker 2: All right, so you're going with it? What are you going?
Speaker 5: Do you?
Speaker 2: How do you points?
Speaker 3: You're getting three and a half. Yeah, at home home, Doug. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and that too the fact that it's at the swamp. Okay,
Speaker 3: all right, so you refresh us again.
Speaker 2: All right, here we go.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 2: I'll give Steve's picks first, since he was the loser
Speaker 2: last week.
Speaker 5: Colorado minus the seven against Colorado State, Oregon State and
Speaker 5: our special but plus sixteen and a half over Oregon.
Speaker 5: He's taking the Lions minus seven and a half against
Speaker 5: the Bucks, the Jags minus three against the Browns. On
Speaker 5: his lock is thes minus eight and a half against
Speaker 5: the Raidas I'm taking I'm riding that longhorned bandwagon take
Speaker 5: giving thirty five and a half to Utsa. We've had
Speaker 5: Oklahoma minus thirteen against Tulane. I also am taking Oregon
Speaker 5: State plus the sixteen.
Speaker 2: And a half.
Speaker 5: My lock is the Chiefs minus five against the crap
Speaker 5: ass Bengals, and I've got the forty nine ers giving
Speaker 5: five to the Vikings in Minneapolis. And then Big One
Speaker 5: has got Florida getting three and a half at home
Speaker 5: against Texas A and m Go Gators, all right, go Gators.
Speaker 2: All what do you think? I'm a winner? Steve? I
Speaker 2: got this?
Speaker 3: So you said last week, actually, that was the best
Speaker 3: week you've had in two years. I'm not joking four
Speaker 3: last week. I think that's what I'm saying. That was
Speaker 3: the best week you've had a couple of years. All Right,
Speaker 3: I know, I know, all right, Okay, I think you
Speaker 3: have some momentum. You're scoring the game Arizona game.
Speaker 18: I don't know, I don't know. I'll take the seven though,
Speaker 18: I take the seven, You take the seven high scoring though.
Speaker 18: You think of the thirties both, Yeah, I don't want
Speaker 18: Juan one. Do you think thirty to thirty to twenty
Speaker 18: four case?
Speaker 2: Excuse you? All right? But doesn't need to cover.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I think it's like a thirty one
Speaker 5: to twenty eight Kansas State, you know something like that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm sticking thirty one seventeen all right, cats, all right.
Speaker 2: Man, you guys, we're good on time. Arizona, Matt all right,
Speaker 2: well for Arizona. Oh you kids, you guys, all right.
Speaker 5: Let's get the heck out of here, Arizona, Kansas State
Speaker 5: coming right up Monday.
Speaker 2: Let's see what we'll be here Monday. We'll talk about it.