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<v Speaker 1>Dreamy Live. I mean, iHeart radio WAP. This is I

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<v Speaker 1>on the Ball with Steve Rivera and Jay Gonzalez on

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, welcome back to us about here a Fox.

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<v Speaker 3>Sports Sports Steve jiginsawas.

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<v Speaker 1>Now we have one with bringing This is I on

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<v Speaker 1>the Ball, breaking news on Fox Sports fourteen fifteen.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, that's what it is, all right, happy finding

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<v Speaker 4>everyone out there. Here's truly mister giddy t shoes A

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<v Speaker 4>little bit delayed before we're.

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<v Speaker 2>Here figuring it out, guys, figuring it out, sir.

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<v Speaker 4>Sorry, I'm breaking news with some Arizona athletics news. The

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<v Speaker 4>Arizona volleyball team advanced to seven and zero today.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 4>The Abilene Christian in the Borderland Invitational.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow wow wow.

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<v Speaker 3>This kind of reminds me of them. Not not to

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<v Speaker 3>the degree of this, but I don't know who their

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<v Speaker 3>opponents are, whether their quality or not. But you remember

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<v Speaker 3>when we had a Dia Barnsley in here. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know I five years ago, and they're winning and and

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<v Speaker 3>and and I said, you know, your competition says I

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<v Speaker 3>got to teach them how to win first. Got to

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<v Speaker 3>teach the win first, because because they didn't know how

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<v Speaker 3>to win. They were that bad. And then you started

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<v Speaker 3>learning how to win, and you win and you beat

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<v Speaker 3>Texas on the road. You're taking what the hell is

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<v Speaker 3>going on?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>I think this could be a lot like that, where

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<v Speaker 3>you get your wins, you feel good about yourself and

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<v Speaker 3>you play hard, right, and you play well and you

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<v Speaker 3>do well.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah yeah, no, yeah, I mean you do. There is

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<v Speaker 5>a thing about learning how to win for sure. And

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<v Speaker 5>so yeah, no, I you know, good good for because

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<v Speaker 5>they you know, the Voe struggled.

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<v Speaker 2>Did they win seven last year?

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<v Speaker 4>So last year they won eight games? Yeah, okay, already

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<v Speaker 4>started the season seven and no, so.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we had around I don't know, a month ago

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<v Speaker 3>or so. I mean she's very by the book, very

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<v Speaker 3>you know, methodical how she says things.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, no, good for her.

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<v Speaker 6>Man.

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<v Speaker 4>They got a real good freshman.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I heard she like a like a from somewhere. So

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<v Speaker 3>she was the top the top raider recruit. Yeah, out

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<v Speaker 3>of high school so from where. And then they have

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<v Speaker 3>like a big transfer, a nice transfer.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think the transfer from Oregon. I believe it's

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<v Speaker 4>a good mix. Yeah, a good mix of newcomers experience.

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<v Speaker 4>So good for them. Seven and zero. Yeah, that's great. Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 4>Arizona Soccer lost their Big twelve opener to Utah.

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<v Speaker 2>But they're they're doing well too, aren't they.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, they're they're playing well.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. What's zero? I think they.

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<v Speaker 4>In my opinion one zero is a decent boss.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>It was it on the road or was it here?

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<v Speaker 4>I believe it was here?

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<v Speaker 3>Or was it I thought it was on the road.

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<v Speaker 3>I could be wrong. I don't know either, Okay, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>but they're improved too.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. To the NFL some injury news all across the league.

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<v Speaker 4>Christian McCaffrey will be out for their Viking game this week,

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<v Speaker 4>and they're considering putting him on.

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<v Speaker 5>I R didn't you say yesterday I'm good to go?

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<v Speaker 5>I thought I saw something a quote from him saying

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<v Speaker 5>he was saying he was ready to go at least

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<v Speaker 5>that's what I Maybe I'm wrong, but I thought I

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<v Speaker 5>saw that.

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<v Speaker 7>No.

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<v Speaker 3>Coincidentally, he got married this year, so there's no coincidence.

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<v Speaker 2>You're so mean. I'm not saying I haven't been on

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<v Speaker 2>the IR since I've been single. Man to the Chiefs

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<v Speaker 2>a lot, Steve.

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<v Speaker 4>Their wide receiver Marquis Browns, will be undergoing the surgery.

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<v Speaker 4>The Andy Reid said that it's not weeks, they're looking

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<v Speaker 4>at months and possibly the season.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, you know you feel bad for anybody, but you know,

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<v Speaker 5>well are we are we going to talk about what's

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<v Speaker 5>his name?

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<v Speaker 2>Sure? Yep, yep?

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<v Speaker 4>Well good seguay. Thursday night last night, Thursday Night football.

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<v Speaker 4>The Bills won thirty one to ten, and unfortunately for

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<v Speaker 4>the Dolphins, their quarterback to what Takabaaloa did go out

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<v Speaker 3>And that's one of those things where you slide rather

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<v Speaker 3>than you didn't you go ahead first. Uh, but you

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<v Speaker 3>know he's a tough dude here and then now again

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<v Speaker 3>he's gonna be injured.

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<v Speaker 5>And that was one of those bad ones where his

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<v Speaker 5>arms got, you know, all stiff.

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<v Speaker 3>And what do they call that? Like stretch? They can't

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<v Speaker 3>there's a term for it. They said it this morning

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<v Speaker 3>but it was more like as fencing, I think.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean got it, you know, yeah, I mean

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<v Speaker 5>you really, I mean you have to think about your life, right.

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<v Speaker 4>Skyler Thompson went in last night and he's from Kansas State.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, they need a quarterback for this team because they

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<v Speaker 3>can score it anytime.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they got guys, right, got guys.

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<v Speaker 4>They have the stars Tyreek Hill, Jaylen Waddle. Yeah, uh bet,

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<v Speaker 4>it's just to to you know, this is I believe

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<v Speaker 4>it is what third and fourth is?

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<v Speaker 2>Fourth? Fourth? One?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, fourth and three years or something like that.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, yeah, you got You gotta feel bad for

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<v Speaker 5>him that that you know he's got all this talent,

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<v Speaker 5>all this ability, all this stuff, and then you know

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<v Speaker 5>that this is happening to him.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, well, I thought you in a previous show before ours,

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<v Speaker 3>they were talking about all the I think they're probably

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<v Speaker 3>talking about stuff like this. There's a point when an athlete,

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<v Speaker 3>a good athlete, has to figure I call it a day,

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<v Speaker 3>that one game too many, and you and you take

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<v Speaker 3>that chance and you get hit that one game too many,

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<v Speaker 3>that one fight too many, right, and then you're.

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<v Speaker 2>Thinking God should have just called it a day exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>But but you don't know until you know one and two.

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<v Speaker 3>Your competitor. So you're a competitor. You you want to play.

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<v Speaker 1>This is what you do for lit.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, you know how many guys are you have

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<v Speaker 5>such a hard time calling it a day when you

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<v Speaker 2>The end game is the is the bitch you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't know when?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, now, yeah, you feel bad for him. I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>financially and all those things, he'll be fine, but.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I think they have to pay. They pay.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, well, he's got guaranteed money. But there's a There's

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<v Speaker 5>also the thing of you live the rest of your

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<v Speaker 5>life thinking what could have been? You know, some people

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<v Speaker 5>can handle it, some people don't. And then if you

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<v Speaker 2>You said, you're thinking what it could have been. At

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<v Speaker 2>least you leave thinking no, no, I shouldn't laugh at that,

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<v Speaker 2>but you're right, but you have your right. You need

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<v Speaker 2>to you need to take that into consideration.

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<v Speaker 5>Sure, and there's some guys say, well, I'd rather die

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's a great option. That's not that's not such

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<v Speaker 2>a great no, no, no, I hear you.

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<v Speaker 4>Just a lot of coaches around the league are calling

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<v Speaker 4>for it to retire.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and then you're on the defensive side and you're

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<v Speaker 3>But then I don't want to get to that guy and.

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<v Speaker 4>Then of all guys too for the contact to be made.

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<v Speaker 4>It was themar Hamlin.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, yeah, I heard that. There was no I'm

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<v Speaker 5>gonna it was tasteless. I'm not going to bring up

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<v Speaker 5>a tweet that I saw about that. Okay, people, people

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<v Speaker 5>were pretty twitter. Twitter has made the world work.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think you can say that. I

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<v Speaker 4>think you can definitely say that. Yeah, all right, again,

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<v Speaker 4>all the best wishes to do Yeah, and one agree

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<v Speaker 4>with you. Continuing though with the Week three of the

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<v Speaker 4>NFL got some good games. Saints visiting the Cowboys. Both

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<v Speaker 4>went and out looked good.

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<v Speaker 5>In the Week one that was almost gonna be our

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<v Speaker 5>special game for the Yeah, I wouldn't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't know where to go with it, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that would have been a good one.

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<v Speaker 4>We got the uh Rams and the Cardinals. Both teams

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<v Speaker 4>are one, but they were good losses.

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<v Speaker 6>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>The Cardinals battled the Bills. The Rams took on the Lions,

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<v Speaker 4>they took them the overtime.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So I got invited to go to the game

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<v Speaker 2>this weekend, that Rams and Cardinals game. I'm not going. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>have you been to an NFL game up there? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>You got to leave like at six in the morning,

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<v Speaker 3>it takes three hours to get through the traffic, and

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<v Speaker 3>then it takes those three hours.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I thank you, but I've done it in a

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<v Speaker 5>Once I just drove up, Yeah, an after you know,

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<v Speaker 5>Sunday afternoon game, drove up, went to the game, took

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<v Speaker 5>for you know, leave early, get get you know, get

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<v Speaker 5>home late. Then I want I did one in style

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<v Speaker 5>motor home with direct TV and the whole bit, and

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<v Speaker 5>we're watching games all the way up. You tailgated, you tailgated,

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<v Speaker 5>then went back after the game, sat there for a

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<v Speaker 5>couple hours, you know, watched the Sunday night game, and

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<v Speaker 5>came home and I thought, okay, that's how you do that.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, no, it's yeah, it's hard. So it's a

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<v Speaker 2>long day. It's a long day because what you do. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>even traffic on a normal day in Phoenix is just.

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<v Speaker 5>We went to we went to a game the last

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<v Speaker 5>year that the forty nine ers were Candlestick, we went

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<v Speaker 5>to a game there.

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<v Speaker 2>Same thing.

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<v Speaker 5>Just getting in and out of Candlestick is was worse

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<v Speaker 2>But same thing.

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<v Speaker 5>You had to get there, you know, nine o'clock in

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<v Speaker 5>the morning for one o'clock game, just to be able

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<v Speaker 5>to get in on time, right, that kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 2>But I hear you. You're not gonna go for too long.

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<v Speaker 2>Think he's listening. No, No, he's in Phoenix and they

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<v Speaker 2>have sweet tickets. It's nice tickets.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh god, I did that two years three years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I'm getting it. I must getting.

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<v Speaker 3>Because I would if I were your guys, h when

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<v Speaker 5>It's a one o'clock game too. Yeah, you kinda leap

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, I love I love just sitting around on

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<v Speaker 5>Although this Sunday, Steve, I've got to put I got

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<v Speaker 4>Another good game. Bengals visiting the Chiefs, rematch from the

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<v Speaker 3>And then you got to the Bengal game. Bengals, you

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<v Speaker 3>to pick. So we'll see where he goes with that one.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh to two young quarterbacks going out at Sunday night.

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<v Speaker 3>against Stroud. Yeah, we'll see he did. I guess he didn't.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't see a lot of the game, but I

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<v Speaker 2>Good last week. A defensive touchdown, a special team's touchdown

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<v Speaker 4>Right, they pulled it out, but the offense didn't score. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>okay uh to the college world. The Georgia quarterback Daniel

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<v Speaker 4>Harris was arrested today, charged after driving one hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 5>They're a danger to their community. The whole football team

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<v Speaker 5>is a danger to their damn community. These guys don't

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<v Speaker 2>They're making enough nil they can get an uber.

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<v Speaker 5>Or somewhere, you know, And the fact that Kirby Smart

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<v Speaker 5>if they've killed some people, I mean, what the hell

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<v Speaker 5>are we doing over there?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, there's your thing of entitlement, you know, entitlement guys

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<v Speaker 3>kids playing, I know.

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<v Speaker 5>But if you're a coach of a program that's got

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<v Speaker 2>You've got to change that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but they've talked about this for years now.

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<v Speaker 2>Well that's what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, don't don't you don't don't you tell your team, Okay,

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<v Speaker 5>you get a traffic ticket, anything, you get a speeding ticket,

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<v Speaker 5>you're suspended for a game. And if you get a

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<v Speaker 5>reckless driving you're off the team. Boom wouldn't don't wouldn't

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<v Speaker 5>that help?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I mean I would think it would.

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<v Speaker 2>This week. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, we're three dudes in a room talking about this.

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<v Speaker 3>You're not the coach making millions and need the guy

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<v Speaker 3>when you're a parent, your kids are not do what

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. But if my kid gets a reckless driving and

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<v Speaker 2>they take him to jail, that's that wasn't my question.

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<v Speaker 2>He's spending the night in jail. Oh I don't disagree

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<v Speaker 2>with that. But did your kids always listen to you? No? No, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>let's move on. No, I hear you, But they didn't

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<v Speaker 2>do stuff like that. And I almost got out there,

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<v Speaker 2>I did you do stuff like that?

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<v Speaker 7>Well?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I just didn't get caught. That's welcome to the

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<v Speaker 2>Georgia football program. Pot. This is cattle, all right.

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<v Speaker 4>And then, of course, uh, Week three college football got

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<v Speaker 4>some good matchups. Alabama visiting Wisconsin. I'm not sure how good.

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<v Speaker 2>That one is.

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<v Speaker 3>You think, Well, you know what the thing is in

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<v Speaker 2>Alabama right. Alabama was in Alabama because the.

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<v Speaker 5>Coaching Wisconsin has been Wisconsin for a long time, right,

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<v Speaker 5>That's why I didn't touch it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>Alabama struggled last I mean when you think of that,

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<v Speaker 4>when you think of the stay right now, when you

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<v Speaker 4>think of the programs, yes, you say Alabama Wisconsin.

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<v Speaker 5>That's one of those games that we're always asking for.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm really not sure how good a game that that is.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, I think the Arizona Kansas State game is

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<v Speaker 5>a better game, right.

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<v Speaker 4>A lot of people were talking about it. They said,

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<v Speaker 4>this game tonight should have been done tomorrow. It probably

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<v Speaker 4>would have been the game day game. Yeah, it could

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<v Speaker 4>have been that game. Yeah, but who knew?

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<v Speaker 2>Who knew?

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<v Speaker 7>Uh?

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<v Speaker 4>You got Boston College going to Missouri both to and

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<v Speaker 4>OH teams.

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<v Speaker 5>Boston College is getting like sixteen points, right yep? And

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<v Speaker 5>they didn't didn't. They just beat the crap out of

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<v Speaker 5>Florida State. That's what I thought I remember seeing, although

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<v Speaker 5>maybe we don't know how bad Florida State might be.

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<v Speaker 5>I didn't pick that one though, Steve, even though I

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<v Speaker 5>feel like that's a lot of points for a Boston

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<v Speaker 5>College to be getting, to be getting it took something else.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, all right, you got the Civil War or the

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<v Speaker 4>organ School going. That's our special game this week.

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<v Speaker 1>We got it.

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<v Speaker 2>We both got to pick that. It just feels wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>Well in Washington.

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<v Speaker 5>Washington State are also playing this week the Appy in September.

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<v Speaker 4>September.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that's what the Oregon State and Washington State get

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<v Speaker 5>for sucking and not being able to, you know, go

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<v Speaker 5>with everybody else to one of the conferences.

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<v Speaker 4>You also got a Colorado visiting Colorado State. We'll see

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<v Speaker 4>how they bounce back if they do.

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<v Speaker 5>And I'm a huge fan of the Rams, huge fan

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<v Speaker 5>of Colorado tea tea. No, no, that's not no, no,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm just I'm just rooting for Colorado State to win

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<v Speaker 5>that game. I guess one of their players came out

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<v Speaker 5>and said, we should have murdered them last year. But

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<v Speaker 5>they which somebody from Colorado State, and they should have

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<v Speaker 5>they did. They had them on the ropes.

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<v Speaker 2>They did have them on the ropes. They should have

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<v Speaker 2>had them. All right, that's all I got it. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I have one more. Do we have time a minute

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, welcome back to Why the Ball here on Fox

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<v Speaker 3>when if all we have John Wilner from the Wilner

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<v Speaker 3>Hotline from the Santa's a injury news done.

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<v Speaker 6>How you doing? I am good?

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks?

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<v Speaker 6>How you guys?

459
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<v Speaker 2>Fine? Thank you? Have you been sitting down waiting for

460
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<v Speaker 2>news since.

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<v Speaker 3>The PAC twelve it was gone? Now you finally have

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<v Speaker 3>stuff to write about or it's always been this way.

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<v Speaker 15>It's been a pretty busy two years, la, and that's

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<v Speaker 15>say we're leaving. It's been pretty busy. This week was

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<v Speaker 15>close to one of the busiest.

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<v Speaker 5>I gotta say, did was there any inkling from anywhere

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<v Speaker 5>that this was coming together.

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<v Speaker 2>Coming well?

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<v Speaker 6>It kind of depends coming together.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, coming together exactly on Wednesday night Thursday morning. No,

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<v Speaker 7>I caught me a little bit by surprise.

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<v Speaker 6>But once the.

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<v Speaker 7>Scheduling agreement deadline came and went between the PAC twelve

474
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<v Speaker 7>and the Mount West for the twenty twenty five season,

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<v Speaker 7>you kind of felt like, all right, something's gonna happen soon.

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<v Speaker 6>But you never you know, with realignment, you never know.

477
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<v Speaker 6>It kind of comes out of nowhere.

478
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<v Speaker 2>But kind of what you expected.

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<v Speaker 3>We are Obviously more is gonna come with more teams

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<v Speaker 3>and more schools coming in, but kind of what you

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<v Speaker 3>maybe thought in.

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<v Speaker 2>The first phase, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, for sure, the most likely scenario was gonna

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<v Speaker 7>be some collection of Mount West schools joining Washington State

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<v Speaker 7>and Oregon State competing under the PAC twelve banner.

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<v Speaker 6>Now, whether it was gonna be four.

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<v Speaker 16>Schools, six schools, twelve schools, that was a little up

488
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<v Speaker 16>in the air, but this top grouping was, I mean,

489
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<v Speaker 16>there was by far the most likely scenario that they

490
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<v Speaker 16>were gonna be in the same conferences Washington State and

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<v Speaker 16>Oregon State.

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<v Speaker 5>Were you surprised they only they only took the uh

493
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<v Speaker 5>the six that they did and they didn't go.

494
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<v Speaker 6>Or was it four that that was four to make six?

495
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<v Speaker 2>Florida make six?

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<v Speaker 6>Right?

497
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<v Speaker 5>That that they only took four and that you know

498
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<v Speaker 5>UNLV's not in there. Maybe San Jose State, I mean

499
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<v Speaker 5>that they didn't go to the eight. Right now, what

500
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<v Speaker 5>are they doing?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, they're kind of they're buying themselves in time.

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<v Speaker 7>They needed something in order to basically say to the

503
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<v Speaker 7>world the PAC twelve is going to live on uh

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<v Speaker 7>and those four knew that they wanted to leave, but

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<v Speaker 7>they are kind of reserving space to see if they

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<v Speaker 7>can get some other schools. I think they are going

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<v Speaker 7>to look to the east to see about expanding the footprint.

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<v Speaker 7>Is months available UTSA, Tulane, those kind of schools, maybe

509
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<v Speaker 7>even South Florida or Texas State.

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<v Speaker 16>They want to see if they can expand the footprints,

511
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<v Speaker 16>and if they can't, then they know they can circle

512
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<v Speaker 16>back to the Mountain West and perhaps get UNLV and

513
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<v Speaker 16>air Force and schools like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it's obviously a lose for the Mountain West because

515
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<v Speaker 3>they've lost some key, key teams or key schools. What

516
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<v Speaker 3>do you think there, what's the vibe at the PAC

517
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<v Speaker 3>twelve office saying, Okay, this is the start of us

518
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<v Speaker 3>kind of coming back in some form.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, it's I think it's being felt at the PAC

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<v Speaker 7>twelve and also on the two campuses, like all right,

521
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<v Speaker 7>this is the start of our our rebirth, so to speak. Right,

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, it's gonna be a viable conference starting in

523
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<v Speaker 7>the summer of twenty twenty six. They know that they

524
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<v Speaker 7>can get two schools, so it'll be a minimum of

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<v Speaker 7>an eight team league. And you know what, it's gonna

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<v Speaker 7>be a pretty good football league. With the six they have,

527
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<v Speaker 7>that's not a bad league. Now we'll see who else

528
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<v Speaker 7>they add that will kind of help determine what their

529
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<v Speaker 7>TV deal is.

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<v Speaker 6>Like you know just what the overall it is. But

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<v Speaker 6>they've got the you know, the core group of a

532
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<v Speaker 6>decent football conference.

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<v Speaker 5>Saying that though they're not going to be a power school, right,

534
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<v Speaker 5>they're gonna be a group of five or group of

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<v Speaker 5>quarter six or whatever it becomes.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, yeah, they're not gonna The thing is that designation

537
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<v Speaker 7>power power four and and group of five. It doesn't

538
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<v Speaker 7>really matter with the new playoff, right because the five

539
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<v Speaker 7>highest rank conference champions are going to get.

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<v Speaker 6>In oh okay qualifiers, and that's not that's not changing.

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<v Speaker 7>There's there are like if you assume that the sec

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<v Speaker 7>ACC Big ten and Big twelve winners will be four

543
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<v Speaker 7>of the five highest ranked conference champions, then there's one

544
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<v Speaker 7>more spot and that spot would go to the best

545
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<v Speaker 7>team from either the rebuilt Pac twelve, the American the

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<v Speaker 7>Sun Belt Conference USA. So you know, the rebuilt Pack

547
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<v Speaker 7>twe it is going to have a pretty decent chance

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<v Speaker 7>of sending its its champion to the playoff.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, all right, so it's this is all about money.

550
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<v Speaker 2>It's always been all about money.

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<v Speaker 3>So the Pac twelve, as you as you know, and

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<v Speaker 3>you can tell us it has tons of money because

553
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<v Speaker 3>they're not paying any of the teams that left, right,

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm sure the Mountain West schools are saying, oh,

555
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<v Speaker 3>now we have some money.

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<v Speaker 2>Well the you mean the four that are coming years

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<v Speaker 2>that are.

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<v Speaker 6>Going in the Pack twelve.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>The thing is they, oh, there's a lot of exit fees.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, it breaks down to about.

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<v Speaker 7>Twenty five twenty six million dollars for each of the

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<v Speaker 7>four schools to enter the PAC twelve. Now that's a

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<v Speaker 7>combination of a penalty that the Pack twelve owes the

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<v Speaker 7>Mountain West and it's also the exit fees that those schools,

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<v Speaker 7>oh the Mountain West. So it's like one hundred and

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<v Speaker 7>ten million dollars total. You know, the PAC twlve's got

569
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<v Speaker 7>a lot of money. They've got over the course of time.

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<v Speaker 7>They have two hundred and fifty million dollars at their disposal.

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<v Speaker 7>Some of that is going to Oregon State Washington State

572
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<v Speaker 7>to to basically fund their athletic operations. But there's a

573
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<v Speaker 7>lot of money there, and so that will be used

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<v Speaker 7>to help pay those departure penalties, and then you know,

575
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<v Speaker 7>they the four schools coming in will get whatever TV

576
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<v Speaker 7>deal the PAC twelve is able to put together and

577
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<v Speaker 7>that money is that penalty money is going to go

578
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<v Speaker 7>to the Mountain West, and the Mountain West schools will

579
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<v Speaker 7>do be that up between them, I guess, and or

580
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<v Speaker 7>they'll use it to try to expand themselves.

581
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<v Speaker 6>See what the Mountain West does next?

582
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<v Speaker 5>Well yeah, and that's the thing now, Okay, So not

583
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<v Speaker 5>what is the Mountain Western? They've lost four of their

584
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<v Speaker 5>best schools, particularly football schools. You know, are they going

585
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<v Speaker 5>to go try and you know, round somebody up? And

586
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<v Speaker 5>you know, one of the discussions I heard was maybe

587
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<v Speaker 5>they go get some of the best FCS teams like

588
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<v Speaker 5>a Montana, Montana State, maybe North Dakota State, some of those.

589
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, the things a long way from being done.

590
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<v Speaker 2>But what are your thoughts on where they go?

591
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<v Speaker 7>For some more?

592
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<v Speaker 6>It is a long way from being done. I don't

593
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<v Speaker 6>know that the FCS schools are going to want to

594
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<v Speaker 6>do it.

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<v Speaker 7>Because I don't think the Mountain West is gonna be

596
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<v Speaker 7>able to put together a TV deal. I mean, all

597
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<v Speaker 7>of the all of the schools that have value the

598
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<v Speaker 7>TV are moving into the PAC twelve. So if there's

599
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<v Speaker 7>no TV deal, what is the incentive for the Montana schools?

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<v Speaker 2>For instance?

601
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<v Speaker 6>To join. They're better off being you know, big fishes

602
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<v Speaker 6>in the FCS.

603
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<v Speaker 7>Then they are moving in the FBS and struggling to survive,

604
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<v Speaker 7>which is essentially what would happen. So I'm skeptical of that.

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<v Speaker 7>I think the Mount West is in serious trouble of

606
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<v Speaker 7>just you know, just banding, much more serious trouble than

607
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<v Speaker 7>the PAC twelve was. Because Washington State and Oregon State

608
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<v Speaker 7>always had the option to go into the Mount West

609
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<v Speaker 7>to get the best schools. The Mountain West doesn't have

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<v Speaker 7>anywhere to turn. I mean, I don't think that school's

611
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<v Speaker 7>Sunbelt or Conference USA are going to come to the

612
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<v Speaker 7>Mount West because there's not going to be a TV

613
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<v Speaker 7>deal available.

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<v Speaker 6>They're better off where they are.

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<v Speaker 3>So I don't think you guys have mentioned we did

616
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<v Speaker 3>yesterday Jay with Vegas and Nevada, you know, the and Nevada.

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<v Speaker 2>What are their chances right? Right? What happened there that

618
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<v Speaker 2>you and lv didn't get included in this.

619
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<v Speaker 7>Because of the there's some state politics involved, and it's

620
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<v Speaker 7>lenov basically needs clearance to separate from RENA from the

621
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<v Speaker 7>Reno campus, and it sounds to me like they.

622
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<v Speaker 6>Don't have that clearance yet.

623
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<v Speaker 7>And that was part of the reason that they are

624
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<v Speaker 7>not in this first wave of schools going into the

625
00:28:36.799 --> 00:28:39.240
<v Speaker 7>PAC twelve. Now, we'll see in the next three to

626
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<v Speaker 7>six months if UNLV gets approval to go to the

627
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<v Speaker 7>PAC twelve and leave Nevada behind. If they don't, then

628
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<v Speaker 7>you know, that's that's a school that PACTROV won't have

629
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<v Speaker 7>the option to get.

630
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<v Speaker 6>But that's a state a largely a state political issue.

631
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<v Speaker 5>We're talking to John Wilner from the Wilner high Line

632
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<v Speaker 5>and the Santa's American News. John, But I mean un

633
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<v Speaker 5>LV and Nevad weren't even in the same conference for

634
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<v Speaker 5>the longest time. It was only until relatively recently that

635
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<v Speaker 5>they both wound up in the Mountain West.

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<v Speaker 2>When did when did they get joined at the hip

637
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<v Speaker 2>like that?

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<v Speaker 7>You know, I don't know the background of what's going

639
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<v Speaker 7>on there with their with its system, but at some

640
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<v Speaker 7>point someone over there is going to realize that, you know,

641
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<v Speaker 7>Nevada has got no place to go.

642
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<v Speaker 6>And so are you going to also prevent un l

643
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<v Speaker 6>V from from.

644
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<v Speaker 7>Getting into the PAC twelve or are you going to

645
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<v Speaker 7>relegate both of them to a much lesser existence. I

646
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<v Speaker 7>have to think somebody will eventually get smart and realize

647
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<v Speaker 7>they're better off at least letting UNLV get get the

648
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<v Speaker 7>PAC twelve money and the PAC twelve platform, because if

649
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<v Speaker 7>they don't, I mean again, the Mountain West is very

650
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<v Speaker 7>seriously in jeopardy of total collapse and disintegration, and they

651
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<v Speaker 7>want both of schools at that fate, or you know,

652
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<v Speaker 7>at least get UNLV into a life raft.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, we both know the Mount West commissioner and Glory

654
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<v Speaker 5>and of ours from her time at the PAC twelve.

655
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<v Speaker 5>Have you had a chance to talk to her? Has

656
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<v Speaker 5>anybody talked to her? And what's been what's she saying?

657
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<v Speaker 6>I have not spoken to her. I reached out to

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<v Speaker 6>her earlier this week. I have not spoken to her.

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<v Speaker 7>I think that you know, they are like the pone ones,

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<v Speaker 7>you know a year ago or two years ago when

661
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<v Speaker 7>Lee left right, you're caught by surprise and you're scrambling

662
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<v Speaker 7>to come together and come up with options. Meanwhile, the

663
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<v Speaker 7>schools themselves are trying to call to get into other conferences.

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<v Speaker 6>They're looking for life boats. Yeah, so a tough situation.

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<v Speaker 7>I would argue that the mount West might have misplayed

666
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<v Speaker 7>its hands a little bit right once the PAC twelve

667
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<v Speaker 7>schools got two hundred and fifty million dollars in Assetsuntain.

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<v Speaker 6>I should have known, you know what, we need to

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<v Speaker 6>hold them as close.

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<v Speaker 7>As we can rather than kind of creating a invisible

671
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<v Speaker 7>wall here, and instead they kind of created an invisible wall.

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<v Speaker 7>So we'll see what happens to the Mountain West. But

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<v Speaker 7>they are in scramble mode right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Well in essence, in essence, the Pac twelve will now

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<v Speaker 3>be the Mountain West, or you know, a souped up

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<v Speaker 3>Mountain West. No New Mexico, right, No Colorado State.

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<v Speaker 7>They got Colorado State, but no, just no, they don't

678
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<v Speaker 7>have They're probably not going to end up with Utah State,

679
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<v Speaker 7>Santurday State, Nevada, Hawaii, maybe in Mexico.

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<v Speaker 6>Those schools are in a little bit of trouble.

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<v Speaker 2>I think, yeah, yeah, no question.

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<v Speaker 7>But you know it will You could argue it's going

683
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<v Speaker 7>to be a souped up Mountain West, but let's see

684
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<v Speaker 7>first who they get. Because if there's a way for

685
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<v Speaker 7>them to get Tulane and UTSA and a couple other schools,

686
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<v Speaker 7>then is it's a souped up Mountain West but with

687
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<v Speaker 7>a much larger footprint, And you know that could be

688
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<v Speaker 7>kind of an interesting conference. I think it's a pretty

689
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<v Speaker 7>good football conference even with just those six, but we'll

690
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<v Speaker 7>see where things go.

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<v Speaker 5>Any predictions on what kind of a TV contract they

692
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<v Speaker 5>can get, because I think what the Mountain West gets

693
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<v Speaker 5>six right now?

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<v Speaker 2>Six million?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, the average the Mountain West average over the six years,

696
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<v Speaker 7>I think rounds out to about five million per school.

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<v Speaker 7>I think the pack the new PAC twelve could could

698
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<v Speaker 7>certainly double that are very close to doubling it, and

699
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<v Speaker 7>that it also depends on who else they add. I mean,

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<v Speaker 7>if they added a Memphis and a two lane, maybe

701
00:32:37.279 --> 00:32:40.079
<v Speaker 7>that gets more money because they have more time zones

702
00:32:40.119 --> 00:32:44.559
<v Speaker 7>and more kickoff windows. But I think anything in the nine,

703
00:32:44.680 --> 00:32:49.039
<v Speaker 7>ten eleven million dollar range is probably pretty reasonable for

704
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<v Speaker 7>the rebuilt PAC twelve, and anything about.

705
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<v Speaker 6>That would be a huge victory.

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<v Speaker 7>Now, remember the Mountain West has is getting five million

707
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<v Speaker 7>a year basically, but that's with the low average valued

708
00:33:03.920 --> 00:33:06.839
<v Speaker 7>school right those schools are not part of the new

709
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<v Speaker 7>PAC twelve. It's only the above average valued schools that

710
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<v Speaker 7>are joining the PAC twelve.

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<v Speaker 5>Now, what's the long term here for Oregon State and

712
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<v Speaker 5>Washington State if they're in a league now or instead

713
00:33:17.279 --> 00:33:20.759
<v Speaker 5>of getting thirty million dollars they're getting ten eleven, twelve

714
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<v Speaker 5>million dollars. I mean, at some point this money that

715
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<v Speaker 5>they got with the breakup of the Pac twelve runs out.

716
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<v Speaker 5>They're spending it like crazy obviously to get more teams.

717
00:33:29.160 --> 00:33:31.519
<v Speaker 5>At some point they're gonna have to operate far below

718
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<v Speaker 5>what they've been getting revenue wise. It, at least from

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<v Speaker 5>a TV standpoint.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, they oh, for sure, they will. Absolutely.

721
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<v Speaker 7>The difference between what they're going to get and what

722
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<v Speaker 7>the Big twelve is getting is basically going to be

723
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<v Speaker 7>the difference between.

724
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<v Speaker 6>The Big twelve and the Big Ten, right in terms

725
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<v Speaker 6>of millions of dollars.

726
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<v Speaker 7>Now, that does not count post college football playoff money

727
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<v Speaker 7>and then split tournament money, but just from a TV

728
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<v Speaker 7>deal standpoint, you know, the rebuilt PAC twelve will be

729
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<v Speaker 7>at ten million, say, and the Big twelve is at

730
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<v Speaker 7>thirty million, and the Big ten is at like sixty million.

731
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<v Speaker 7>Now they supplement that with the playoff and March madness,

732
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<v Speaker 7>but that's kind of how the broadcast television deals are

733
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<v Speaker 7>gonna work, and the Beavers and Cougars are gonna have

734
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<v Speaker 7>to certainly adjust their budgets, There's no doubt about that.

735
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<v Speaker 7>And it's that's gonna be hard in this era when

736
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<v Speaker 7>you've got to share revenue with the players.

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<v Speaker 6>Certainly they have got an uphill climb, there's no doubt.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, John Wilner, you appreciate your time and keeping us updated.

739
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<v Speaker 5>Wait wait, wait, wait a minute, are you still like

740
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<v Speaker 5>paying attention to Arizona, Arizona State?

741
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<v Speaker 2>Those guys?

742
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<v Speaker 6>You mean the undefeated Air Sun Devils.

743
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<v Speaker 5>Those ones and the undefeated Arizona Wildcats. They got a

744
00:34:46.920 --> 00:34:48.119
<v Speaker 5>big game tonight, Kansas State?

745
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<v Speaker 2>What do you think they do?

746
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<v Speaker 6>Have a huge game tonight. I'm looking forward to that.

747
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<v Speaker 5>What do you what do you think on that one?

748
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<v Speaker 5>Are you giving or taking the seven? Are you giving

749
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<v Speaker 5>or taking the seven?

750
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<v Speaker 6>I think I would probably take the seven. I think

751
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<v Speaker 6>it's gonna be tough.

752
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<v Speaker 7>You know, road games Friday road games are hard, and

753
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<v Speaker 7>Kansas State is good. The thing that I'm looking forward

754
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<v Speaker 7>to is it's gonna tell us where Arizona fits in

755
00:35:12.960 --> 00:35:15.400
<v Speaker 7>the Big Twelve, even though it's not technically conference right,

756
00:35:15.480 --> 00:35:18.840
<v Speaker 7>If they can go in there and win or play

757
00:35:19.119 --> 00:35:21.559
<v Speaker 7>a tight game deep in the fourth quarter, you know,

758
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<v Speaker 7>then you have to figure Arizona's in the top group

759
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<v Speaker 7>of front runners for the Big Twelve playoff spots.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, man, Yeah, yeah, I agree totally. Thanks John. Hey, John,

761
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<v Speaker 2>appreciate it be well.

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<v Speaker 6>Thanks a lot of guys.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, welcome back to I on the Ball hero Fox

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<v Speaker 3>Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera, He's jaginsauf got our

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<v Speaker 2>We got about the twenty minute fifteen minutes. Now, we

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<v Speaker 2>got our picks. Five Friday picks. Man, you got you

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<v Speaker 2>got the champion of the world right now, right, you

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<v Speaker 2>got the check. We gotta go first, you know you

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<v Speaker 2>get your one pick? Yeah, okay, all right, I got

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<v Speaker 2>all right going. We got our five picks again.

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<v Speaker 5>Three college or two college, two pro, and then you

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<v Speaker 5>can usually you can pick whatever you want culture appro

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<v Speaker 5>for your fifth I always go three college. Steve always

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<v Speaker 5>goes three pro, so I have a little difference there.

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<v Speaker 5>We both got to pick the Civil War, the Oregon

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<v Speaker 5>State Oregon game. So we'll both picked that one.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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<v Speaker 5>And these are spreads that we we we lock in

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<v Speaker 5>our spreads on Thursday, so these were yesterday spreads. They

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<v Speaker 5>may have changed a little bit today, all right, So

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<v Speaker 5>I am staying staying on the Longhorn bandwagon. My first

832
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<v Speaker 5>pick is I'm taking Texas or giving thirty five and

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<v Speaker 5>a half too, I don't remember, and it didn't matter

834
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<v Speaker 5>to me. I was good to take them no matter what.

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<v Speaker 5>Right is the utsaad Gosh, I should have had that down, Okay,

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<v Speaker 5>I got Texas giving thirty five and a half to UTSA.

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<v Speaker 5>I just think I just think they're really damn good.

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<v Speaker 5>Not at some point they're gonna crash and burn, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>they're gonna lose a game that they shouldn't or whatever,

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<v Speaker 5>because that's what Steve Sarkisian does. But I just think

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<v Speaker 5>they're they are so good right now, it just won't

842
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<v Speaker 5>be tomorrow, and well we'll see. I'm taking that's a

843
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<v Speaker 5>big point spread, I know, but I just think Texas

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<v Speaker 5>is just they're just damn good and they're on a roll.

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<v Speaker 5>So Texas mine is thirty five and a half against utsa.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, sounds good to me, and I really don't care

847
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<v Speaker 3>about that one. So I'm gonna break your heart right

848
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<v Speaker 3>away with my college pick, my first college pick. I'm

849
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<v Speaker 3>going with Colorado over Colorado State for no other reason

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<v Speaker 3>than I just think they're ready to play well for

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<v Speaker 3>a game because they have to.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and the spread is what, it's not very big.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't ge.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like six or seven. Yeah, it's seven. I think

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<v Speaker 3>it's gonna be a bit. I think they'll show up

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<v Speaker 3>for this one. They sty're better than what they showed.

857
00:39:59.039 --> 00:40:01.280
<v Speaker 3>Are they any good? I don't, But they have to

858
00:40:01.360 --> 00:40:02.800
<v Speaker 3>start winning a game or two here.

859
00:40:04.280 --> 00:40:06.519
<v Speaker 2>I think they're gonna win the game. I just don't

860
00:40:06.519 --> 00:40:08.159
<v Speaker 2>want him to. Yeah, yeah, so why pick it up.

861
00:40:08.159 --> 00:40:11.079
<v Speaker 2>I'm just gonna I'm just gonna be a troll and

862
00:40:11.159 --> 00:40:13.880
<v Speaker 2>say I hope you lose. Okay, but now I.

863
00:40:15.559 --> 00:40:17.760
<v Speaker 5>In the endsty they still got They've got good players.

864
00:40:17.800 --> 00:40:19.880
<v Speaker 5>They just don't have enough good players in the right

865
00:40:19.920 --> 00:40:22.800
<v Speaker 5>places too, you know, I mean, should they.

866
00:40:22.760 --> 00:40:25.039
<v Speaker 2>Be Coloro State? Of course? This is also maybe you

867
00:40:25.079 --> 00:40:26.239
<v Speaker 2>guys would chime in.

868
00:40:26.559 --> 00:40:28.280
<v Speaker 3>Last year, they were playing really well for the first

869
00:40:28.320 --> 00:40:30.440
<v Speaker 3>five weeks, right, they won't last one and then they

870
00:40:30.519 --> 00:40:32.760
<v Speaker 3>tanked it for the rest in that Stanford game when

871
00:40:32.800 --> 00:40:33.920
<v Speaker 3>they had that that.

872
00:40:34.000 --> 00:40:35.239
<v Speaker 2>Kind of put him in the in the in the

873
00:40:35.559 --> 00:40:36.159
<v Speaker 2>edition toilet.

874
00:40:36.280 --> 00:40:38.159
<v Speaker 3>But at some point, and I think I think this

875
00:40:38.320 --> 00:40:40.559
<v Speaker 3>is the case, at least in my mind, that they

876
00:40:40.719 --> 00:40:44.159
<v Speaker 3>started to they started to wilt over everything right there,

877
00:40:44.880 --> 00:40:47.360
<v Speaker 3>and it was almost like the team gave up. And

878
00:40:47.480 --> 00:40:51.280
<v Speaker 3>that happens, right especially in a in a coaching system

879
00:40:51.400 --> 00:40:54.840
<v Speaker 3>like this where it might be overbearing and you say,

880
00:40:55.480 --> 00:40:57.280
<v Speaker 3>you know, he doesn't care about us, we don't care

881
00:40:57.280 --> 00:40:59.920
<v Speaker 3>about Unlet's just go and play and not care. Yeah,

882
00:41:00.119 --> 00:41:03.199
<v Speaker 3>I'm not saying that happen, but it sure looked like it. Well,

883
00:41:03.320 --> 00:41:05.400
<v Speaker 3>it sure went all the hell in the handbasket that

884
00:41:06.719 --> 00:41:09.519
<v Speaker 3>he could recover. Yeah, and they got They never did recover.

885
00:41:09.840 --> 00:41:12.400
<v Speaker 3>You're you're not You're wagging your head like, yes, right,

886
00:41:12.440 --> 00:41:13.639
<v Speaker 3>you gotta believe what I'm saying.

887
00:41:13.719 --> 00:41:16.119
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean, the fact that they couldn't get that

888
00:41:16.159 --> 00:41:19.880
<v Speaker 4>Stanford game just threw everything that was. They started looking

889
00:41:19.920 --> 00:41:23.159
<v Speaker 4>at next season and they started looking and going somewhere

890
00:41:23.199 --> 00:41:24.239
<v Speaker 4>else too, a whole bunch of them.

891
00:41:24.280 --> 00:41:25.840
<v Speaker 3>And they're also going to come a point where this

892
00:41:25.960 --> 00:41:29.159
<v Speaker 3>year where the pressure, whatever you call it, is uh

893
00:41:29.639 --> 00:41:32.039
<v Speaker 3>is on d on the focus and then the chador,

894
00:41:32.199 --> 00:41:35.280
<v Speaker 3>all these the kids, uh, and they can't they can't

895
00:41:35.679 --> 00:41:37.239
<v Speaker 3>perform to what they're expecting.

896
00:41:37.440 --> 00:41:40.480
<v Speaker 5>Well, let's say, let's remember what's his name? Shadow broke

897
00:41:40.559 --> 00:41:43.000
<v Speaker 5>his arm and he got a good player out, you know,

898
00:41:43.199 --> 00:41:46.599
<v Speaker 5>So all right, Okay, I'm okay with that, Steve. You

899
00:41:46.639 --> 00:41:48.760
<v Speaker 5>didn't break my heart with that. Okay, all right, Well

900
00:41:49.519 --> 00:41:52.880
<v Speaker 5>that's all right, taking another big name, of taking another

901
00:41:52.920 --> 00:41:56.679
<v Speaker 5>blue blood. I'm gonna ride uh Oklahoma. I think that

902
00:41:57.039 --> 00:41:59.679
<v Speaker 5>uh you know, I know they barely be Houston last week.

903
00:41:59.679 --> 00:42:06.159
<v Speaker 5>So I'm to say that in this particular case, the

904
00:42:06.280 --> 00:42:08.639
<v Speaker 5>coaches getting their attention, they know they got to do

905
00:42:08.760 --> 00:42:09.239
<v Speaker 5>better than that.

906
00:42:09.360 --> 00:42:10.119
<v Speaker 2>They're in the SEC.

907
00:42:10.320 --> 00:42:14.400
<v Speaker 5>They can't be scrubbing against against teams like like Houston

908
00:42:14.480 --> 00:42:17.000
<v Speaker 5>like they did last week. So I've got Oklahoma. They're

909
00:42:17.000 --> 00:42:19.840
<v Speaker 5>giving thirteen to I don't even remember who again, Lane

910
00:42:20.079 --> 00:42:22.360
<v Speaker 5>to Lange, there you go. I think to Lane got

911
00:42:22.360 --> 00:42:25.320
<v Speaker 5>a little full of itself in the way they they

912
00:42:25.400 --> 00:42:28.119
<v Speaker 5>hung with Kansas State last week. I think they're disappointed

913
00:42:28.159 --> 00:42:30.199
<v Speaker 5>that they lost that game. I think they're just a

914
00:42:30.239 --> 00:42:32.719
<v Speaker 5>little bummed about themselves. And I think Oklahoma's just gonna

915
00:42:32.719 --> 00:42:34.360
<v Speaker 5>go in there and beat the hell out of them,

916
00:42:34.800 --> 00:42:35.519
<v Speaker 5>giving thirteen.

917
00:42:36.079 --> 00:42:42.000
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Okay, did Iver analyzed that every game. I would

918
00:42:42.000 --> 00:42:45.360
<v Speaker 2>be surprised if you didn't over analysy game. Okay. So

919
00:42:45.400 --> 00:42:46.639
<v Speaker 2>now I'm gonna go to pro because I want to

920
00:42:46.679 --> 00:42:49.480
<v Speaker 2>say my oh yeah, you got you gotta do Oregon State.

921
00:42:49.800 --> 00:42:54.599
<v Speaker 3>Okay, So I'm gonna take Detroit again, my second time

922
00:42:54.639 --> 00:42:55.320
<v Speaker 3>picking Detroit.

923
00:42:56.360 --> 00:42:57.159
<v Speaker 2>Who they play?

924
00:42:58.280 --> 00:43:01.360
<v Speaker 3>I have this Tampa Bay, Tapa Bay. It's a home game,

925
00:43:01.400 --> 00:43:03.039
<v Speaker 3>I think it is. I'm going to take a given

926
00:43:03.119 --> 00:43:05.000
<v Speaker 3>seven and a half and half. The hook is going

927
00:43:05.039 --> 00:43:06.880
<v Speaker 3>to probably kill me. But seven and a half in

928
00:43:06.960 --> 00:43:07.719
<v Speaker 3>Detroit minus?

929
00:43:09.199 --> 00:43:09.800
<v Speaker 2>Did I tell you that?

930
00:43:09.880 --> 00:43:13.679
<v Speaker 5>I that I I they finished up by scoring the

931
00:43:13.800 --> 00:43:16.280
<v Speaker 5>touchdown and overtime that they scored. I hit a three

932
00:43:16.280 --> 00:43:19.920
<v Speaker 5>team parlay with that because I needed a touchdown, you know,

933
00:43:19.920 --> 00:43:22.639
<v Speaker 5>because because you think they're going to go. Yeah, the

934
00:43:22.920 --> 00:43:25.599
<v Speaker 5>line was the line was I had I had gotten

935
00:43:25.639 --> 00:43:26.719
<v Speaker 5>the line at three and a half.

936
00:43:26.800 --> 00:43:27.280
<v Speaker 2>It was six.

937
00:43:27.559 --> 00:43:29.480
<v Speaker 5>It was six and a half. But I got it

938
00:43:29.559 --> 00:43:31.599
<v Speaker 5>three and a half because I bet it. After Denver

939
00:43:32.199 --> 00:43:35.480
<v Speaker 5>it kicked a field goal on its opening drive and

940
00:43:35.559 --> 00:43:37.639
<v Speaker 5>the and the line dropped at three and a half.

941
00:43:37.719 --> 00:43:39.639
<v Speaker 2>No, they didn't play who that Denver? Who did they

942
00:43:39.679 --> 00:43:41.719
<v Speaker 2>play the reps? Right?

943
00:43:42.400 --> 00:43:46.199
<v Speaker 5>Uh, that was a different game. That was Seahawks. That

944
00:43:46.239 --> 00:43:48.960
<v Speaker 5>happened to me with Seahawks were six and a half.

945
00:43:49.320 --> 00:43:50.559
<v Speaker 5>I got them at three and a half, but then

946
00:43:50.599 --> 00:43:53.519
<v Speaker 5>I closed it out. But again the line was three

947
00:43:53.599 --> 00:43:56.119
<v Speaker 5>and a half, right, so you had to have a touchdown.

948
00:43:56.559 --> 00:43:58.159
<v Speaker 2>So I got that, and I got that. That's what

949
00:43:58.239 --> 00:44:00.760
<v Speaker 2>it was they got. I got confused. Okay, all right,

950
00:44:01.400 --> 00:44:02.880
<v Speaker 2>you got confused, right, duck down?

951
00:44:03.239 --> 00:44:08.400
<v Speaker 5>That never happens, all right, all right, my net, Well, okay,

952
00:44:08.679 --> 00:44:14.559
<v Speaker 5>my lock, I'm locking this. Those Chiefs over those damn

953
00:44:14.840 --> 00:44:16.400
<v Speaker 5>crap butt head.

954
00:44:16.599 --> 00:44:18.360
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah see I knew he's

955
00:44:18.360 --> 00:44:21.320
<v Speaker 3>going to do Yeah, so he overreacts.

956
00:44:21.320 --> 00:44:24.840
<v Speaker 2>It's the overreaction, over reactions.

957
00:44:24.960 --> 00:44:28.760
<v Speaker 5>The Chiefs are at home, they're only giving five. The

958
00:44:28.840 --> 00:44:30.039
<v Speaker 5>Bengals just suck.

959
00:44:30.239 --> 00:44:31.800
<v Speaker 2>That is a small line for that game.

960
00:44:32.440 --> 00:44:34.119
<v Speaker 5>It is you know, I think if that game, I

961
00:44:34.159 --> 00:44:36.880
<v Speaker 5>think if that line's seven and a half, I probably

962
00:44:36.920 --> 00:44:37.360
<v Speaker 5>won't take it.

963
00:44:38.119 --> 00:44:40.760
<v Speaker 2>They got they got win by touchdown. Yeah, but you didn't.

964
00:44:40.800 --> 00:44:41.800
<v Speaker 2>Checks are good. You didn't.

965
00:44:41.800 --> 00:44:44.079
<v Speaker 3>In factor in the Gonzales factor from last week's That

966
00:44:44.239 --> 00:44:45.000
<v Speaker 3>is true, Bengals.

967
00:44:45.199 --> 00:44:45.599
<v Speaker 2>It is true.

968
00:44:46.000 --> 00:44:48.280
<v Speaker 5>The Chase by five. I'm gonna lock that up. I

969
00:44:48.800 --> 00:44:52.280
<v Speaker 5>feel like that's a I'm just gonna say, I feel

970
00:44:52.280 --> 00:44:52.960
<v Speaker 5>like it's a good pick.

971
00:44:53.239 --> 00:44:56.440
<v Speaker 3>Okay, Okay, So my next pick is an NFL game.

972
00:44:57.119 --> 00:44:59.119
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna go on the other side with I'm going

973
00:44:59.159 --> 00:45:02.239
<v Speaker 3>with the Jaguars because I think the Browns are bad

974
00:45:02.880 --> 00:45:06.079
<v Speaker 3>and Jaguars just named the new stadium after the quarterback,

975
00:45:06.840 --> 00:45:09.679
<v Speaker 3>and they lost last week against Miami, so I think

976
00:45:09.719 --> 00:45:10.119
<v Speaker 3>they'll win this.

977
00:45:10.239 --> 00:45:13.679
<v Speaker 2>The spread is only three. So will it mess you

978
00:45:13.760 --> 00:45:16.000
<v Speaker 2>up if I told you that I thought about taking that, No,

979
00:45:16.079 --> 00:45:18.679
<v Speaker 2>because you didn't take it, Okay, Yeah, because.

980
00:45:18.480 --> 00:45:21.280
<v Speaker 5>I did think about taking it, but I thought then

981
00:45:21.320 --> 00:45:23.840
<v Speaker 5>I saw the Chiefs, I saw the Chiefs points spread,

982
00:45:23.840 --> 00:45:25.960
<v Speaker 5>and I said, okay, I'm taking I'm taking the Chiefs

983
00:45:26.239 --> 00:45:30.800
<v Speaker 5>the Browns. The Browns look really bad, you know, Shaun

984
00:45:30.840 --> 00:45:34.480
<v Speaker 5>Watson looks terrible. He's got all this on his mind. Now,

985
00:45:34.599 --> 00:45:37.800
<v Speaker 5>this stuff that came up this week. That's a pretty

986
00:45:37.800 --> 00:45:38.320
<v Speaker 5>good pick, Steve.

987
00:45:38.360 --> 00:45:40.960
<v Speaker 2>I'll have that one. Yeah, okay, all right, all right.

988
00:45:41.239 --> 00:45:43.199
<v Speaker 5>My next pick, you know, I'm just gonna I'm just

989
00:45:43.239 --> 00:45:45.199
<v Speaker 5>gonna ride the cream, just taking the cream.

990
00:45:45.440 --> 00:45:46.360
<v Speaker 2>Nothing but cream here.

991
00:45:46.920 --> 00:45:50.360
<v Speaker 5>I'm taking the forty nine ers, McCaffrey's I even I

992
00:45:50.360 --> 00:45:52.960
<v Speaker 5>eve'n took this after McCaffrey announced that he was out,

993
00:45:53.719 --> 00:45:56.719
<v Speaker 5>because that guy that they got last week was pretty

994
00:45:56.800 --> 00:45:59.559
<v Speaker 5>damn good. And the forty nine ers are just good.

995
00:46:00.199 --> 00:46:02.800
<v Speaker 5>I like, I like, I like what I see. They're

996
00:46:02.840 --> 00:46:08.719
<v Speaker 5>giving five at the Vikings. Vikings don't excite me, you know,

997
00:46:09.199 --> 00:46:11.679
<v Speaker 5>I think, and the forty nine ers are solid in

998
00:46:11.800 --> 00:46:14.639
<v Speaker 5>places that travel, Their defense is really good, they can

999
00:46:14.760 --> 00:46:18.880
<v Speaker 5>run the ball rock party wasn't even spectacular last week.

1000
00:46:18.920 --> 00:46:21.760
<v Speaker 5>He was just solid, and and that's who they are,

1001
00:46:22.400 --> 00:46:24.480
<v Speaker 5>and and I think that that's a that's that's how

1002
00:46:24.480 --> 00:46:27.079
<v Speaker 5>they're gonna win games all year long. And you know what,

1003
00:46:27.239 --> 00:46:29.679
<v Speaker 5>they know, McCaffrey's out, so they don't need to do

1004
00:46:29.719 --> 00:46:31.639
<v Speaker 5>anything fancy. They're just gonna win there and grind out.

1005
00:46:31.840 --> 00:46:33.960
<v Speaker 5>And I think they've got I think got a touchdown

1006
00:46:34.000 --> 00:46:34.519
<v Speaker 5>winning that one.

1007
00:46:34.760 --> 00:46:34.880
<v Speaker 1>One.

1008
00:46:35.079 --> 00:46:38.320
<v Speaker 2>Was that an over analysis? That over analysis, It is

1009
00:46:38.360 --> 00:46:40.719
<v Speaker 2>a little bit, just a little bit, okays, be nice

1010
00:46:40.760 --> 00:46:40.920
<v Speaker 2>to you.

1011
00:46:42.440 --> 00:46:42.599
<v Speaker 7>You know.

1012
00:46:42.679 --> 00:46:44.880
<v Speaker 3>I thought that I had some Cisco and I scratched

1013
00:46:44.880 --> 00:46:47.480
<v Speaker 3>them for Jacksonville, So I kind of I kind of

1014
00:46:47.639 --> 00:46:49.920
<v Speaker 3>agree with that picked not so much with the over analysis,

1015
00:46:49.960 --> 00:46:52.320
<v Speaker 3>but I agree with that. Okay, So my lock for

1016
00:46:52.760 --> 00:46:56.480
<v Speaker 3>pros is going to be Baltimore. I really like they're

1017
00:46:56.480 --> 00:46:58.239
<v Speaker 3>a good teams. They're gonna be I think they could

1018
00:46:58.280 --> 00:46:59.679
<v Speaker 3>even get to the super Bowl this year.

1019
00:47:00.119 --> 00:47:05.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yes, with Anthony Richardson Baltimore. Oh, Baltimoke is thinking

1020
00:47:05.119 --> 00:47:12.440
<v Speaker 2>Colts Baltimore. You know where you're at Universal Studio in

1021
00:47:12.679 --> 00:47:13.480
<v Speaker 2>half over.

1022
00:47:16.800 --> 00:47:17.400
<v Speaker 4>Las Vegas.

1023
00:47:17.599 --> 00:47:18.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeahs.

1024
00:47:18.400 --> 00:47:21.280
<v Speaker 3>And of course you know Las Vegas stuck it up

1025
00:47:21.280 --> 00:47:23.960
<v Speaker 3>against Chargers Rest last week. Uh, the former U bag

1026
00:47:24.079 --> 00:47:32.400
<v Speaker 3>guy Anthony an Antonio. So I like Baltimore. I like

1027
00:47:32.480 --> 00:47:34.519
<v Speaker 3>them a lot this year. So they're my lock.

1028
00:47:34.800 --> 00:47:36.559
<v Speaker 2>Well well, and and they I mean, they played a

1029
00:47:36.599 --> 00:47:38.800
<v Speaker 2>really good game against the Chiefs. It's just yeah, they

1030
00:47:38.880 --> 00:47:39.960
<v Speaker 2>just lost. They just lost.

1031
00:47:40.719 --> 00:47:42.280
<v Speaker 3>Hard to beat and you have to play really well

1032
00:47:42.320 --> 00:47:43.920
<v Speaker 3>to beat the Chiefs, and they were right there.

1033
00:47:44.039 --> 00:47:45.360
<v Speaker 5>Yeah for most of the games they gave him, So

1034
00:47:45.480 --> 00:47:48.440
<v Speaker 5>they gave themselves a chance. All right, that's your lock,

1035
00:47:48.480 --> 00:47:51.159
<v Speaker 5>all right, I like that. I'll roll with that one.

1036
00:47:51.400 --> 00:47:51.760
<v Speaker 2>All right.

1037
00:47:51.840 --> 00:47:56.400
<v Speaker 5>Now we both got to pick Oregon State giving or

1038
00:47:56.480 --> 00:48:01.320
<v Speaker 5>getting six and a half against Oregon. Game is in Corvellis.

1039
00:48:02.199 --> 00:48:04.719
<v Speaker 5>It's the Civil War. And I said to somebody, this

1040
00:48:04.840 --> 00:48:08.639
<v Speaker 5>might actually be or like a real civil war. Oregon

1041
00:48:08.679 --> 00:48:13.119
<v Speaker 5>State fan is pissed. Oregon fan Oregon thinks that they're

1042
00:48:13.119 --> 00:48:18.079
<v Speaker 5>all that it always has and always has. Sixteen and

1043
00:48:18.159 --> 00:48:20.800
<v Speaker 5>a half in a rivalry game, it seems like a lot.

1044
00:48:21.440 --> 00:48:23.960
<v Speaker 5>And because of that, I am going to take Oregon

1045
00:48:24.119 --> 00:48:26.679
<v Speaker 5>State because I just think that, I.

1046
00:48:26.719 --> 00:48:29.440
<v Speaker 2>Mean, Oregon's not been good. They had they went to

1047
00:48:29.519 --> 00:48:32.920
<v Speaker 2>overtime against Boise State. They barely beat somebody the week before,

1048
00:48:32.960 --> 00:48:38.480
<v Speaker 2>who was it, Idaho? Idaho? Right, they just haven't looked good.

1049
00:48:38.880 --> 00:48:42.159
<v Speaker 5>Now, if you're on the other side of this, you're saying, Okay, well,

1050
00:48:42.199 --> 00:48:43.320
<v Speaker 5>it's time that they look good.

1051
00:48:43.320 --> 00:48:44.440
<v Speaker 2>They've got guys to look good.

1052
00:48:44.480 --> 00:48:47.440
<v Speaker 5>But I just think that in a game with this

1053
00:48:47.599 --> 00:48:49.559
<v Speaker 5>kind of emotion and at the first time they've played

1054
00:48:49.559 --> 00:48:52.840
<v Speaker 5>each other since one of them ditched the other, I

1055
00:48:52.920 --> 00:48:54.719
<v Speaker 5>think it's a big deal. And I think Oregon State

1056
00:48:54.800 --> 00:48:56.719
<v Speaker 5>is gonna be a little more fired up, a little

1057
00:48:56.760 --> 00:48:59.239
<v Speaker 5>more bouncing its step, and it's at home. So I

1058
00:48:59.480 --> 00:49:02.039
<v Speaker 5>want Oregon State plus the sixteen and a half.

1059
00:49:02.960 --> 00:49:06.280
<v Speaker 3>Okay, well, I'm sorry to say I'm gonna agree with

1060
00:49:06.360 --> 00:49:08.360
<v Speaker 3>you on that. Pick sixty and a half. A lot

1061
00:49:08.360 --> 00:49:11.880
<v Speaker 3>of points I think I saw in trends that Oregon

1062
00:49:11.960 --> 00:49:14.800
<v Speaker 3>State has covered eighteen of twenty two of those games.

1063
00:49:15.119 --> 00:49:18.159
<v Speaker 3>Because you know, rivalry games are crazy, and this game

1064
00:49:18.320 --> 00:49:20.480
<v Speaker 3>you think, okay, if you're just a normal dude who

1065
00:49:20.639 --> 00:49:22.880
<v Speaker 3>picked this game, he said Oregon, Oregon State, Oregon is

1066
00:49:22.880 --> 00:49:25.800
<v Speaker 3>gonna kill him. That never happens. It's like the issue

1067
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<v Speaker 3>U of a game, right, you say, oh, that game

1068
00:49:27.880 --> 00:49:30.199
<v Speaker 3>is easy, and then it never happens. Right, Weird things happen.

1069
00:49:30.480 --> 00:49:32.679
<v Speaker 3>So I'm going with Oregon State as well plus sixteen

1070
00:49:32.760 --> 00:49:35.760
<v Speaker 3>and a half, all right, which which is very strange

1071
00:49:35.800 --> 00:49:37.719
<v Speaker 3>of me to do this, But I'm taking Oregon State

1072
00:49:37.719 --> 00:49:38.039
<v Speaker 3>all right.

1073
00:49:38.639 --> 00:49:40.320
<v Speaker 5>By the way, send me a reminders I post the

1074
00:49:40.360 --> 00:49:42.679
<v Speaker 5>pics this week. Yes, don't send me the reminder on

1075
00:49:42.800 --> 00:49:44.039
<v Speaker 5>Monday asking me if I did.

1076
00:49:45.039 --> 00:49:47.119
<v Speaker 2>I'm looking for him. What the hell? What's your pick?

1077
00:49:47.840 --> 00:49:49.039
<v Speaker 2>What's your pick? All right?

1078
00:49:49.800 --> 00:49:51.559
<v Speaker 4>But you got there's some good games this week, a

1079
00:49:51.760 --> 00:49:54.440
<v Speaker 4>fun game. I was looking at UCF and TCU. You

1080
00:49:54.559 --> 00:49:58.199
<v Speaker 4>got the Apple Cup, Boston College, Missouri. What I took

1081
00:49:59.000 --> 00:50:00.960
<v Speaker 4>was Florida over Texas A and M.

1082
00:50:01.320 --> 00:50:01.559
<v Speaker 2>Wow.

1083
00:50:02.079 --> 00:50:02.519
<v Speaker 7>I think.

1084
00:50:03.960 --> 00:50:07.079
<v Speaker 4>Right now they have A and M by four three

1085
00:50:07.079 --> 00:50:08.480
<v Speaker 4>and a half. Maybe I'm not sure you're taking the

1086
00:50:08.480 --> 00:50:15.199
<v Speaker 4>points I got Florida by two touchdowns. Why, I think

1087
00:50:15.239 --> 00:50:17.440
<v Speaker 4>they have a really good quarterback. Now, yeah, I didn't

1088
00:50:17.440 --> 00:50:21.480
<v Speaker 4>trust mergers. They changed quarterbacks, quarterbacks, they got the freshman.

1089
00:50:22.119 --> 00:50:24.639
<v Speaker 4>Uh and we've seen what happens when there's an injury

1090
00:50:25.000 --> 00:50:26.719
<v Speaker 4>and a freshman comes in steps up.

1091
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<v Speaker 2>All right, so you're going with it? What are you going?

1092
00:50:29.800 --> 00:50:29.920
<v Speaker 5>Do you?

1093
00:50:30.000 --> 00:50:30.480
<v Speaker 2>How do you points?

1094
00:50:30.480 --> 00:50:35.360
<v Speaker 3>You're getting three and a half. Yeah, at home home, Doug. Yeah,

1095
00:50:35.519 --> 00:50:39.039
<v Speaker 3>and that too the fact that it's at the swamp. Okay,

1096
00:50:39.199 --> 00:50:40.800
<v Speaker 3>all right, so you refresh us again.

1097
00:50:40.840 --> 00:50:41.519
<v Speaker 2>All right, here we go.

1098
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<v Speaker 7>Uh.

1099
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<v Speaker 2>I'll give Steve's picks first, since he was the loser

1100
00:50:44.840 --> 00:50:45.239
<v Speaker 2>last week.

1101
00:50:45.880 --> 00:50:49.840
<v Speaker 5>Colorado minus the seven against Colorado State, Oregon State and

1102
00:50:49.920 --> 00:50:52.559
<v Speaker 5>our special but plus sixteen and a half over Oregon.

1103
00:50:53.079 --> 00:50:55.360
<v Speaker 5>He's taking the Lions minus seven and a half against

1104
00:50:55.400 --> 00:50:58.360
<v Speaker 5>the Bucks, the Jags minus three against the Browns. On

1105
00:50:58.440 --> 00:51:01.599
<v Speaker 5>his lock is thes minus eight and a half against

1106
00:51:01.840 --> 00:51:06.440
<v Speaker 5>the Raidas I'm taking I'm riding that longhorned bandwagon take

1107
00:51:06.519 --> 00:51:09.840
<v Speaker 5>giving thirty five and a half to Utsa. We've had

1108
00:51:09.840 --> 00:51:13.480
<v Speaker 5>Oklahoma minus thirteen against Tulane. I also am taking Oregon

1109
00:51:13.559 --> 00:51:15.559
<v Speaker 5>State plus the sixteen.

1110
00:51:15.159 --> 00:51:15.559
<v Speaker 2>And a half.

1111
00:51:16.119 --> 00:51:18.639
<v Speaker 5>My lock is the Chiefs minus five against the crap

1112
00:51:18.719 --> 00:51:21.639
<v Speaker 5>ass Bengals, and I've got the forty nine ers giving

1113
00:51:21.760 --> 00:51:26.000
<v Speaker 5>five to the Vikings in Minneapolis. And then Big One

1114
00:51:26.119 --> 00:51:29.639
<v Speaker 5>has got Florida getting three and a half at home

1115
00:51:29.719 --> 00:51:32.599
<v Speaker 5>against Texas A and m Go Gators, all right, go Gators.

1116
00:51:32.840 --> 00:51:35.719
<v Speaker 2>All what do you think? I'm a winner? Steve? I

1117
00:51:35.800 --> 00:51:36.079
<v Speaker 2>got this?

1118
00:51:36.920 --> 00:51:39.159
<v Speaker 3>So you said last week, actually, that was the best

1119
00:51:39.159 --> 00:51:42.519
<v Speaker 3>week you've had in two years. I'm not joking four

1120
00:51:42.639 --> 00:51:44.400
<v Speaker 3>last week. I think that's what I'm saying. That was

1121
00:51:44.440 --> 00:51:46.880
<v Speaker 3>the best week you've had a couple of years. All Right,

1122
00:51:46.960 --> 00:51:50.760
<v Speaker 3>I know, I know, all right, Okay, I think you

1123
00:51:50.840 --> 00:51:53.519
<v Speaker 3>have some momentum. You're scoring the game Arizona game.

1124
00:51:53.840 --> 00:51:56.079
<v Speaker 18>I don't know, I don't know. I'll take the seven though,

1125
00:51:56.480 --> 00:51:58.880
<v Speaker 18>I take the seven, You take the seven high scoring though.

1126
00:51:58.920 --> 00:52:01.239
<v Speaker 18>You think of the thirties both, Yeah, I don't want

1127
00:52:01.559 --> 00:52:05.199
<v Speaker 18>Juan one. Do you think thirty to thirty to twenty

1128
00:52:05.239 --> 00:52:06.639
<v Speaker 18>four case?

1129
00:52:06.760 --> 00:52:09.039
<v Speaker 2>Excuse you? All right? But doesn't need to cover.

1130
00:52:09.440 --> 00:52:11.079
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I think I think it's like a thirty one

1131
00:52:11.119 --> 00:52:13.400
<v Speaker 5>to twenty eight Kansas State, you know something like that.

1132
00:52:13.880 --> 00:52:17.320
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm sticking thirty one seventeen all right, cats, all right.

1133
00:52:17.280 --> 00:52:25.719
<v Speaker 2>Man, you guys, we're good on time. Arizona, Matt all right,

1134
00:52:25.760 --> 00:52:30.880
<v Speaker 2>well for Arizona. Oh you kids, you guys, all right.

1135
00:52:30.840 --> 00:52:33.519
<v Speaker 5>Let's get the heck out of here, Arizona, Kansas State

1136
00:52:33.559 --> 00:52:34.840
<v Speaker 5>coming right up Monday.

1137
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<v Speaker 2>Let's see what we'll be here Monday. We'll talk about it.
