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Speaker 2: Talk seven ninety. But it kind of feels like today
Speaker 2: is either a funeral or a celebrate of life, maybe
Speaker 2: for the season that Louisville basketball had. And we'll we'll
Speaker 2: get through it three hours, and I am hoping to
Speaker 2: hear from a lot of you today, Babo, two five
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Speaker 2: us a call. This is really just going to be
Speaker 2: a not only a long post I mean this is
Speaker 2: be a long postgame show. Those are typically about an hour.
Speaker 2: We've got three hours, and it's really a season postseason show,
Speaker 2: right because it's over. It has come to an end,
Speaker 2: and it sucks. I Uh, I've got so much to
Speaker 2: just throw out there and ramble about, but I don't
Speaker 2: really know where to start. So I'll just start with
Speaker 2: what is the most like, what's the freshest thing on
Speaker 2: my mind as I'm sitting here in studio looking up
Speaker 2: at the screens and watching other games going on. And
Speaker 2: I mean, this, this isn't something that is that surprising,
Speaker 2: because we've talked about it quite a bit this week.
Speaker 2: It is something Louisville fans have experienced before, and that
Speaker 2: is that losing as the first in the first game
Speaker 2: of the NSAA tournament, it's the absolute worst, especially considering that,
Speaker 2: like it's such a big deal to us if it
Speaker 2: would have been you know, like think about a football
Speaker 2: school who makes the tournament every every you know, seven
Speaker 2: eight years. I mean, I'm sure it still stinks to
Speaker 2: watch your team lose. That's that's just how this works.
Speaker 2: But again, like we care about it so much, we
Speaker 2: we let it consume us more than anybody else. So
Speaker 2: to get the uh to get the dance and started
Speaker 2: and then have to leave the dance floor before it
Speaker 2: really gets started is an awful feeling. And wait, our
Speaker 2: favorite song hasn't even came on yet. The same thing
Speaker 2: happened to us last time we were here, which was
Speaker 2: six years ago. And I know Louisville when they lost
Speaker 2: to Morehead State that in twenty eleven, and that sucked.
Speaker 2: That was that was early in the day. But I
Speaker 2: don't remember it being the first game overall. I could
Speaker 2: be wrong. I think it was okay because that was
Speaker 2: a long time ago. What I and I think you're
Speaker 2: right because I've heard enough people mention it to where
Speaker 2: it clearly it wouldn't just be something everybody's just you know,
Speaker 2: made up. But I think the tournament loss in twenty
Speaker 2: nineteen was such a forgettable experience for a lot of
Speaker 2: people because it was a very brief tenure with a
Speaker 2: coach that was here for three years and some change,
Speaker 2: and then a you know, a global pandemic happened, and
Speaker 2: you know, it's easy to just you know, kind of
Speaker 2: forget that whole thing happened. But anyways, losing first in
Speaker 2: the tournament absolutely sucks. And I'll just you know, I'll
Speaker 2: start with this, I really don't have any genuine feeling
Speaker 2: of like anger, disappointment, because these guys didn't play well today.
Speaker 2: They could have played better. But I'm not like, I'm
Speaker 2: not mad at them, I'm not like disappointed to where
Speaker 2: they really let me down in a way. It just
Speaker 2: sucks because I'm sad and I hate that this is
Speaker 2: the end of the line for a team that I
Speaker 2: think will always be very very memorable. I mean, we'll see,
Speaker 2: only time will tell. I mean, there's not going to
Speaker 2: be really this is when this is gonna be one
Speaker 2: of those seasons that that really it just comes down
Speaker 2: to you having the you know, I guess I don't
Speaker 2: want to say how much it meant to you because
Speaker 2: that that that's a little too personal because you can
Speaker 2: enjoy it and you can, you know, you can experience
Speaker 2: the highs and lows of a fan, but like what
Speaker 2: something means to you is, you know, that's that's a
Speaker 2: little deeper. But what I'm saying is that I feel
Speaker 2: like there's not going to be any historical stat or
Speaker 2: accomplishment for this season and this team that will put
Speaker 2: them in any kind of like record book or all
Speaker 2: time great team category. So it's just going to be
Speaker 2: you know, remembering they they brought us back to life,
Speaker 2: right and not only did they did they win a
Speaker 2: lot of games this year. They got us back in
Speaker 2: the tournament. There was relevancy surrounding our program that has
Speaker 2: not been there in a long time, and that was awesome.
Speaker 2: That was an experience that we clearly took for granted,
Speaker 2: and then it was gone for a long time. And
Speaker 2: then they, I think picked up on the fact that
Speaker 2: we were energized and that they I mean, they took
Speaker 2: pride I think in playing here and getting the fans
Speaker 2: excited once again. So you know, I'm gonna always remember them,
Speaker 2: but I don't I guess I really don't know how
Speaker 2: they'll be viewed. You know, I shouldn't say how they
Speaker 2: I don't think anybody's gonna look back, who remembers this
Speaker 2: season and say, you know, I hated that team. That
Speaker 2: team man, that season was not enjoyable. But as far as, like,
Speaker 2: you know, where they into I think, as I said
Speaker 2: a couple of weeks ago, before we even got to
Speaker 2: this point, this has been such a unique year to
Speaker 2: where in every way this is just you know, we
Speaker 2: felt things that we wouldn't have felt had we not
Speaker 2: gone through three years of just you know, sadness and
Speaker 2: and something that we one hope never happens again, but
Speaker 2: also we never envisioned it ever being possible, so that
Speaker 2: the unthinkable that you hope never happens again puts you
Speaker 2: in a position to where you will appreciate a team
Speaker 2: just playing hard and really embracing the fact that they
Speaker 2: they get a chance to play for this program, a
Speaker 2: coach that seems to really value this what this is
Speaker 2: so just a very rare year in all aspects. It
Speaker 2: was a fun ride, but man, when you are the
Speaker 2: first team out, it sucks. I mean losing We could
Speaker 2: have lost as the last team to play in the
Speaker 2: round of sixty four and it's still would have sucked.
Speaker 2: But today was just not a good day and I
Speaker 2: didn't have like any again. Another aspect that makes this
Speaker 2: just very unusual for me is that I've never really
Speaker 2: had any big feeling one way or the other about
Speaker 2: any game this year because I've known that this team
Speaker 2: doesn't have necessarily the makeup to just go out there
Speaker 2: and have a have a half assed game and beat
Speaker 2: a lot of teams because they're just not that talented.
Speaker 2: So that's it. But I've also never been really scared
Speaker 2: of any major opponent because I feel like, you know,
Speaker 2: their maturity and their their ability to kind of, you know,
Speaker 2: just battle it out, gives them a chance to be competitive,
Speaker 2: and that that has added to why it's just been
Speaker 2: a different ride than what we at least what I've
Speaker 2: what I can, what I remember in all the other
Speaker 2: years where I've watched the Louisville team that you know,
Speaker 2: was what was what we want. A team that's competitive,
Speaker 2: a team that wins a lot more than they lose,
Speaker 2: a team that's going to be an instable a tournament.
Speaker 2: So overall, it's it's just said that it's over, you
Speaker 2: know today. Certainly, if you guys have criticisms about what
Speaker 2: you saw today and all that, you can certainly share
Speaker 2: that with us. I don't think that there's really any
Speaker 2: area of today's game that you would look at and
Speaker 2: say that Louisville, you know, out did their opponent. So again,
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Speaker 2: four three eight ninety seventy three. So for me, what
Speaker 2: it came down to initially was this, we didn't take
Speaker 2: away their strength, and that's hard to do it times.
Speaker 2: You know, a team's strength is a strength when you
Speaker 2: get to the tournament because they've done it well all
Speaker 2: year and clearly coaches players, they're aware of what a
Speaker 2: team likes to do, and you try to take that away.
Speaker 2: That's part of competition, that's that's that's how this works.
Speaker 2: So their strength was that they didn't foul. We didn't
Speaker 2: force the issue. And I guess it's to your opinion
Speaker 2: as far as was it more so us not trying
Speaker 2: to take advantage of that, or I'm not taking advantage,
Speaker 2: but more so trying to, you know, take them out
Speaker 2: of their comfort zone where they maybe are foul prone
Speaker 2: and they've got a team at the free throw line
Speaker 2: a lot. Or is it more so them just really
Speaker 2: being good at what they do. We also did a
Speaker 2: terrible job at exploring their exploding their weakness, especially early on.
Speaker 2: I mean, this is a Creighton team that turns the
Speaker 2: ball over as if they are a charitable organization is
Speaker 2: if nobody there is on an il scholarship, they just
Speaker 2: they just give it away mid game, no matter who
Speaker 2: they're playing, gifts to their they they turn it over
Speaker 2: like crazy. Their point guard turns it over a lot.
Speaker 2: And then as a team they don't turn anybody over.
Speaker 2: And Louisville at the end of the day had less
Speaker 2: turnovers than than Creighton. But to start the game, Louisville
Speaker 2: had I think five turnovers before they had won. And
Speaker 2: that's just that's a recipe for disaster whenever a team
Speaker 2: that they've got one real vulnerability, and sure enough, they've
Speaker 2: been great at avoiding that, letting that be an issue
Speaker 2: for them, and they've actually made you be the you know,
Speaker 2: they've made it to where you are the one turning
Speaker 2: it over a lot. So the end of the day
Speaker 2: they turned it over ten times, louivill turned it over six.
Speaker 2: But when Louisville was creating turnovers and attempting to capitalize
Speaker 2: on it or you know, at times they did take
Speaker 2: advantage of Creighton being charitable. But anytime you had to
Speaker 2: do that, you were in a hole. I mean you
Speaker 2: just were, so you know, things that could really hurt
Speaker 2: Creighton and make them vulnerable. Louisville wasn't able to get
Speaker 2: them in that in that game. And you know, as
Speaker 2: far as I mean when you look at Louisville, I
Speaker 2: don't really know what the main thing that opposing coach
Speaker 2: will be worried about. I think what it comes down
Speaker 2: to is that you know Louisville strengths and weaknesses, but
Speaker 2: how you would choose to counter that depends on who
Speaker 2: you are, right, It's your identity, how you're built. So
Speaker 2: they and it makes total sense now they do not.
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean even though Ashworth played phenomenal today,
Speaker 2: made a lot of tough shots, I mean, game of
Speaker 2: his life. Although as well as he played, I mean,
Speaker 2: let's be honest, when you look at the overall game
Speaker 2: from Jemiah Neil, he led them in every category twenty
Speaker 2: nine points, twelve rebounds, and six assists. He kicked Louisville's
Speaker 2: ass today. But anyways, back to you know, the overall
Speaker 2: like Louisville with Hadley and Hepburn, I would say, you know,
Speaker 2: they have an advantage to where they could take it.
Speaker 2: You know they could score on those guys. But I
Speaker 2: think what Creighton does the reason why they commit fewer
Speaker 2: fouls than anybody in the country. They commit ten fouls
Speaker 2: a game. Is because they realize we probably aren't elite
Speaker 2: at just you know, prevent dribble penetration. So therefore, let's
Speaker 2: not pick up fowls and let's let's you know, bait
Speaker 2: guys into the lane to have to deal with the
Speaker 2: giant that is Ryan Kulkbrenner. And he had Let's see
Speaker 2: how many blocks did he have today? I think he
Speaker 2: had five? Was it five? Because because the last one
Speaker 2: was where Chucky tried to bravely dunk on, so they
Speaker 2: had five? Did he have all of them? I assume
Speaker 2: he probably did. Had to have been five or six. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so let's see. Yeah, he so the only the team
Speaker 2: had five, So he probably and it would make sense
Speaker 2: if he had all of them, because you know, he's
Speaker 2: he's a giant. He's he's the five time defensive player,
Speaker 2: the four time defensive player of the year in the
Speaker 2: Big East. Also one of those actually, no, he he
Speaker 2: had four. Uh, the other one came from Jami and Eal,
Speaker 2: the other guy who you know played at it. I
Speaker 2: mean that guy. You you would think just by watching
Speaker 2: that game that he's that he's an NBA superstar, he's
Speaker 2: like their fourth best player. But he killed us today,
Speaker 2: and credit to him. I think that had a lot
Speaker 2: to do with both him and us. But nonetheless, you know,
Speaker 2: with Ryan Kochbrenner, he's not only gonna block shots and
Speaker 2: alter shots. He's in your head. And that was a
Speaker 2: I mean that was noticeable from the beginning of the game.
Speaker 2: Their rim protector impacted our offense way too much. And
Speaker 2: you know, it's easy, easier said than done to just say, look,
Speaker 2: just go try to score, don't be worried about getting blocked.
Speaker 2: But shots that you knew he wasn't probably gonna block you.
Speaker 2: Nobody shot him comfortably around the rim in the first half.
Speaker 2: It got a little better in the second half, and
Speaker 2: then in the second half you started just missing layups
Speaker 2: that I feel like this team you know, should miss.
Speaker 2: But I mean he was you know, if you are
Speaker 2: if you're going against Ryan Kalchbrenner, when it comes to
Speaker 2: how you're going to attack him, I mean you probably
Speaker 2: try to, you know, get the game sped up and
Speaker 2: you try to bring him away from the rim. And
Speaker 2: we didn't do that at all at all. And when
Speaker 2: it comes to how you try to stop him. I
Speaker 2: actually think when it comes to defending him in the post,
Speaker 2: I think we did as bad about as good of
Speaker 2: a job as you can as far as just like
Speaker 2: there wasn't many there wasn't many opportunities for him where
Speaker 2: he caught it and just went to work right, Like
Speaker 2: they ran some really good stuff, Like there were a
Speaker 2: couple of plays that you know, you never want anybody
Speaker 2: to score, but like they ran some stuff that I'm
Speaker 2: not sure Louisville could have defended it better. But what
Speaker 2: happened was our attention to detail on Cockbrinner put Creighton
Speaker 2: in positions where they could take advantage of that, and
Speaker 2: they did right. Because when we're when we're moving like
Speaker 2: you know they and by the way they move like
Speaker 2: crazy in the half court Crayton does. They're a well
Speaker 2: coached team and they're a good team too, by the way,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get that in a moment, Like, I mean,
Speaker 2: Louisville lost also today because there's a good chance that
Speaker 2: team's just better than you, And I don't know how
Speaker 2: anybody would say they're not after today, right, I mean,
Speaker 2: louisll could have been better. I would have loved to
Speaker 2: have seen a healthy rain Smith. You know, if they
Speaker 2: play in a seven game series, who knows. But like today,
Speaker 2: it wasn't just the score. They had some dudes that
Speaker 2: you know, we'll get to that. We'll get it that
Speaker 2: in a minute. I'm gett with cock Brener. I mean
Speaker 2: the issue with defending him the way you have to
Speaker 2: to just make it sure, you know, to try to
Speaker 2: take away and no matter what you do, there's an
Speaker 2: advantage with him because he's so tall, and he's a
Speaker 2: good player too, Like he's not just some giant. He
Speaker 2: also has some ability and is a smart player. So
Speaker 2: that led to gang rebounding for Louisville to where if
Speaker 2: it's a long rebound, we're vulnerable. Right long rebound, they
Speaker 2: get it open three. If we are taking shots around
Speaker 2: the rim and an there's indecisiveness to where you kind
Speaker 2: of just throw up a half ass shot instead of
Speaker 2: just taking it strong because you're thinking about him. That
Speaker 2: leads to maybe a long rebound or maybe a block,
Speaker 2: and then they can easily look up court and they've
Speaker 2: got guys who can spot up in transition. So they
Speaker 2: shot it really well from three today. Let's be honest,
Speaker 2: they were I mean, as a team, they were eleven
Speaker 2: of twenty four. That's forty five percent for three. That's
Speaker 2: a great day for any team at the three point line.
Speaker 2: But I think they also got a lot of good
Speaker 2: looks and it was just because sometimes maybe poor defense,
Speaker 2: but more often it was because the way Louisville had
Speaker 2: to counter on both ends for that Giant, they were
Speaker 2: able to get some opportunities to get hot. You know,
Speaker 2: this is one of those things that when you are
Speaker 2: when you play for Creighton and you are you know,
Speaker 2: let's say Ashworth and uh who was who was the
Speaker 2: Mick Andrew? Like, you know why those guys are at
Speaker 2: this level playing and starting for a program like Creighton
Speaker 2: because it's known to be an issue if you leave
Speaker 2: them open. Right, So like, if these guys get open
Speaker 2: shots for whatever reason and they make them, you can't
Speaker 2: be surprised. That's why they're there, Right, nobody's perfect. You
Speaker 2: aren't going to shoot a hundred percent as a three
Speaker 2: point shooter. But when I saw them bury some shots,
Speaker 2: especially in the first half, some of them were shots
Speaker 2: that like, I'm mad they're open, but I also can't
Speaker 2: be surprised when they make it. That's what they do now.
Speaker 2: There also were some as well that you felt like
Speaker 2: they pulled out of their ass. Ashworth had a couple
Speaker 2: of them, and definitely Neil did. His were more so
Speaker 2: just I feel like isolation buckets fading away like he's
Speaker 2: Michael Jordan in the late nineties. That's what that looked like.
Speaker 2: But you know, they made some tough shots, they got
Speaker 2: some good looks that they expect to make, I think
Speaker 2: because Louisville just could not counter for everything that comes
Speaker 2: with playing somebody that is Ryan Cockbrinner. So you know,
Speaker 2: one thing that really stood out to me during this game,
Speaker 2: and it's just me being you know, the fan and
Speaker 2: bum that we were clearly at time. I mean we
Speaker 2: were out class today. I mean, they were just a
Speaker 2: lot better than us. But you didn't just get an
Speaker 2: eight seed. You got a nine seed who by all accounts,
Speaker 2: I mean maybe they were worthy of their nine seed,
Speaker 2: I don't know, but they have a guy that no
Speaker 2: matter who, no matter who you are as a team,
Speaker 2: you are making some major or even slight adjustments to
Speaker 2: who you are and what you want to do because
Speaker 2: you can't counter for what he does. Right Third team
Speaker 2: All American, I mean Creding's a team that if you
Speaker 2: can take away what really you know, what makes them
Speaker 2: a twenty plus win team, They're vulnerable because they don't have,
Speaker 2: you know, they're not gifted with you know, just insane talent.
Speaker 2: But if you aren't able to you know, take away
Speaker 2: and minimize their you know, their advantages. And I guess
Speaker 2: you could say that about any team, right, But I'm
Speaker 2: just saying Louisell didn't just have to play a team
Speaker 2: that finished second in the Big East and gave Saint
Speaker 2: John's one of the one of their four losses of
Speaker 2: the season. They played a team that just has something
Speaker 2: that I feel like ninety nine percent of teams in
Speaker 2: college basketball don't have. And I don't mean a giant.
Speaker 2: I mean a guy who's basically the diet version of
Speaker 2: Zach Edy. I mean he's seven to two production is
Speaker 2: is relatively similar, and oh, by the way, he shoots threes.
Speaker 2: So I mean, I know I'm sounding like poor me.
Speaker 2: We're playing victim here. I mean, Louisville didn't play well
Speaker 2: today and Creighton deserves a lot of credit, but like
Speaker 2: I also, it just feel it felt like, you know,
Speaker 2: the punch of the gut from Sunday lingered and then
Speaker 2: kind of went away, but it came back watching Creighton
Speaker 2: because I feel like Creighton's the caliber team that you know,
Speaker 2: when you're Louisville, you feel like you'd see them in
Speaker 2: the round of sixteen maybe or at least, you know,
Speaker 2: thirty two at least. But again that's me being you know,
Speaker 2: just feeling sorry for us because you know, it sucked
Speaker 2: to have such a fun ride. No you're in the
Speaker 2: tournament safely and then get you know, get and get
Speaker 2: this team and have this performance today. It sucks. I mean,
Speaker 2: they could have been better. It's not as if I
Speaker 2: mean the fault here as far as today as Louisville.
Speaker 2: They lost. They lined up, they couldn't, they couldn't get
Speaker 2: it done. In fact, for being honest, they really couldn't compete.
Speaker 2: I mean they fought, but they were down big the
Speaker 2: majority of this game. So you know, I just you know,
Speaker 2: I'm just sad. It sucks, and it's probably not super
Speaker 2: professional of me to be this emotional. You know, I'm
Speaker 2: not gonna cry, but am my thoughts and analysis today
Speaker 2: may be more so emotionally, you know, influence than than
Speaker 2: than usual. But you know, I'm a human You guys,
Speaker 2: I mean could tell how much I love this team
Speaker 2: and I'm just sad that it's over. So the other
Speaker 2: aspect of, you know, looking at this eight to nine
Speaker 2: Creighton Louisville first game of the tournament is to say this,
Speaker 2: I thought from the beginning of the game it was
Speaker 2: quite clear that Creighton simply has dudes that you didn't
Speaker 2: see the majority of the time when you played games
Speaker 2: the last two and a half months. I'm not saying
Speaker 2: that they're built with guys that you know, you just
Speaker 2: can't account for, but like they got dudes who hey,
Speaker 2: you give me, you give me a good look and
Speaker 2: transition off of a mist I'm cashing in like they're
Speaker 2: a winning program and the ACC stinks. So you know,
Speaker 2: we'll never know, right, did Louisville. It just depends on
Speaker 2: how you want to look at it.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 2: You can say Louisville today really they were the victim
Speaker 2: of not playing in a strong league because they didn't
Speaker 2: get challenged enough. Or you could say, you know, they
Speaker 2: went eighteen and two in the ACC because the ACC sucks,
Speaker 2: And the reality is there's those two sides, but the
Speaker 2: truth is somewhere in the middle of that right, we
Speaker 2: all know that, so, you know, going back and forth
Speaker 2: on it, well, you know, I'm sure all the you know,
Speaker 2: the anti Louisville mostly Kentucky fans, they're gonna just claim
Speaker 2: this is just a product of the ACC being terrible,
Speaker 2: and they may be right. We'll never know, or it
Speaker 2: could be the other thing that I mentioned that maybe
Speaker 2: Louisville just you know, didn't didn't have you know, they
Speaker 2: weren't prepared. If they had they played more teams that
Speaker 2: were built like that, maybe things would have been better.
Speaker 2: And we'll never know. But I just I think that
Speaker 2: when it comes to, you know, what Creighton brought as
Speaker 2: far as their personnel, it wasn't even about like overall
Speaker 2: talent or I guess maybe it was. I just they
Speaker 2: My worry was that when Louisville gets to the NAA Tournament,
Speaker 2: no matter who they play, in Creighton I think is
Speaker 2: way better than nine. But I said it a few times,
Speaker 2: no matter who they played, we had to realize they're
Speaker 2: gonna be probably a lot better than ninety eight percent
Speaker 2: of the teams you've played since January. And that was
Speaker 2: clearly a factor today. Now, should they have been in
Speaker 2: the game where they played a team like that. That's
Speaker 2: you know, that's obviously a different conversation. All right, if
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Speaker 2: Right, all right, we'll let you guys react to what
Speaker 2: happened today.
Speaker 3: Louisville.
Speaker 2: They fall. They are the first team eliminated from the
Speaker 2: Big Dance, which really sucks. I mean, I know I've
Speaker 2: hammered on that for a while, but I tell you
Speaker 2: what I would take, like if we're talking, I mean,
Speaker 2: this is this is just me being very much, you know,
Speaker 2: in the moment, and very very much in pain for
Speaker 2: what just happened and what this feels like. But like,
Speaker 2: if I've got a chance to be a six or
Speaker 2: a seven, give me a seven. If I don't have
Speaker 2: to play the first game, you know, if I've got
Speaker 2: a chance to be a you know, two or three,
Speaker 2: give me the three if I don't have to play
Speaker 2: the first game. And I know that sounds insane because
Speaker 2: you're talking about potentially you know, it all depends on
Speaker 2: the year the field, Like, are you really going to
Speaker 2: put yourself on a spot to it? You know, it's
Speaker 2: just and this is just me talking like a lunatic fan,
Speaker 2: right because I'm sure what this does to us. It's
Speaker 2: no different if these guys lost tomorrow. I mean, it's
Speaker 2: just that's really just from the from purely the fan perspective.
Speaker 2: But anyways, Coffee and Company feel about Thornton's here on
Speaker 2: Sports Talk seven ninety. We'll let you guys react. I've
Speaker 2: done a lot of that today and I'll continue to
Speaker 2: do it. But obviously, uh, I think other voices are
Speaker 2: needed on a day like this to provide some different perspective.
Speaker 2: But let's go to the phone lines, Bibo. Two seventy
Speaker 2: nine hundred is the number, and we will welcome in Jerry,
Speaker 2: who has been patiently waiting. Jerry, let it rip, brother.
Speaker 5: All right, this past Monday, I told you I gave
Speaker 5: the status of the night, and today I give the
Speaker 5: staff about a d two things today played into this.
Speaker 5: I think they miss rain a lot more than everybody realizes. Agreed,
Speaker 5: it just changed our I think it just changed our team.
Speaker 5: It put the blocks in the concrete. Send their blocks
Speaker 5: on on Javon and and uh and and Terrence and
Speaker 5: Chucky's back and it's and they just they carried it
Speaker 5: for a long time, and I think it weighed on them. Okay,
Speaker 5: I thought we were out coached in a big way.
Speaker 5: I thought we looked flat and unprepared for their offense.
Speaker 5: Couple of things I gotta disagree with you about Creighton
Speaker 5: versus the ACC. You know, I'm sitting here watching Clemson
Speaker 5: right now. They might get beat to the by McNeese,
Speaker 5: but they're damn good team and we beat that team
Speaker 5: just the other day. So let's not build up Creighton
Speaker 5: too much. And here's why I'm gonna tell you. Creighton's
Speaker 5: a good team. We made them look great today. They
Speaker 5: entered this game twenty four and ten. Okay, they lost
Speaker 5: to Nebraska by eleven. They lost to San Diego State,
Speaker 5: who've gotten murdered by U n C the other night.
Speaker 5: They lost them by eighteen.
Speaker 2: But and you're not right Jerry, you're not wrong, but
Speaker 2: let me ask you this, and really it just comes
Speaker 2: down to, you know, us both guessing because we can't
Speaker 2: prove each other right or wrong. I don't think Clemson's
Speaker 2: a good team because of talent. I think Creighton has
Speaker 2: some pieces that aren't you know, we could have beat him,
Speaker 2: We should have beat We could have played better. I'm
Speaker 2: not acting like we played with you know, we didn't
Speaker 2: lose today because we just can't account for what they bring.
Speaker 2: But I do think they have some guys like even
Speaker 2: if McNeil gives you half of what he gave you today,
Speaker 2: I think he's a high caliber player in the ACC.
Speaker 2: If that's the you know, what he ever does consistently,
Speaker 2: You know I'm not I don't. I don't want to
Speaker 2: gas Craton up as if they're the world beaters, but
Speaker 2: I do think when you look at the ACC outside
Speaker 2: of four to five teams, I would say they're they're
Speaker 2: better than all those teams and it wouldn't be close.
Speaker 5: Well, they this team, this team that just beat us
Speaker 5: and dominated us, lost to Jordan Nick. They lost a
Speaker 5: Xavier by twenty two nineteen days ago.
Speaker 2: I know they were down twelve to DePaul less than
Speaker 2: a week ago, with less than two minutes left in
Speaker 2: one in double overtime.
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: That's what gave me confidence.
Speaker 5: My next point. But Monday, Monday, I talked talent. Okay,
Speaker 5: so Rus Tray or Rain Scott and Waterman. Scott didn't
Speaker 5: score today, Okay, Rus gave us two, Trey Or gave
Speaker 5: us four. You know, Waterman, if Waterman, if Waterman hits
Speaker 5: his shots early, early in the game, I think he
Speaker 5: would have been a hell of a lot more effective.
Speaker 5: He got all his and the game was over. The
Speaker 5: thing about it is is this. I felt like the
Speaker 5: game was over when it was twenty eight twenty one.
Speaker 5: I really did. We cut it to twenty eight twenty
Speaker 5: five and then that was it. I got to say
Speaker 5: a few more thanks Scott, as I've talked about before,
Speaker 5: He's got to improve immensely, or you just got to
Speaker 5: move on. I mean, I'm sorry, I.
Speaker 2: Got you, I'm with you. I'm with you. Let's let's
Speaker 2: I'm with you. What else? I want to make sure
Speaker 2: we could as many people as begain Coalk.
Speaker 5: Brinner just sat in the middle. He just sat there right.
Speaker 5: All I'm saying is this. We had a hell of
Speaker 5: a year. I love this team. I love all the players,
Speaker 5: I love the coaching staff, even though I didn't think
Speaker 5: they performed well. Okay, but to get to get the
Speaker 5: championship number four, we got a thousand miles to go.
Speaker 5: We got to get some talent.
Speaker 2: In no doubt.
Speaker 5: That's just the way I see it, no doubt. Hey man,
Speaker 5: thanks for the time, Go cards.
Speaker 2: Jerry, appreciate you. And look, Jerry and I are. I
Speaker 2: think you know you wouldn't expect it, or maybe you would.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I guess it depends on how you
Speaker 2: choose to to you know, to it or to what
Speaker 2: you take from it. You hear what you want to hear.
Speaker 2: But when he said twenty eight twenty one is when
Speaker 2: he felt like the game was lost, I was absolutely
Speaker 2: right there with him. Now I'm more so just the pessimist,
Speaker 2: but also you know, with that said, like I could
Speaker 2: just tell they were like early on what makes them vulnerable?
Speaker 2: We couldn't we didn't or couldn't take it away. And
Speaker 2: I think things that you know, Louisville would need to
Speaker 2: do to really beat a lot of teams, especially a
Speaker 2: good team like Creighton. They weren't able to do. So,
Speaker 2: you know, we'll go back in the phone lines in
Speaker 2: just one second. But I do want to say this,
Speaker 2: like I as far as the coaching staff, I mean,
Speaker 2: I think they they paid a lot of attention to
Speaker 2: Kalk Brenner as any as anyone would. And then, you
Speaker 2: know you, I didn't even want to say that, you
Speaker 2: like you open it up to where you just let
Speaker 2: the other guys, you know, you dare. I don't think
Speaker 2: these guys were dared to beat us. They just had
Speaker 2: a great game in in you know, in a bad
Speaker 2: time for Louisville. And I'm trying to balance it here
Speaker 2: because again I'm not saying that they couldn't have been
Speaker 2: better today and that they had like the perfect game
Speaker 2: plan and they just played, you know, against the ninety
Speaker 2: seven bulls. But also here's my whole thing. And we'll
Speaker 2: get back to the fone mines in just one second.
Speaker 2: I promise you will. Ben, We'll get to you guys.
Speaker 2: But my cousin Eric, he and I text all the
Speaker 2: time about Louisville hoops, and he sent this to me
Speaker 2: is the show started and out. You know, I hadn't
Speaker 2: had time to really look back at this, and honestly,
Speaker 2: I never would because this is this not to be
Speaker 2: too dramatic here, but like this is a traumatic thing,
Speaker 2: Like Louisville losing in the tournament hurts me in a
Speaker 2: way that like it shouldn't, makes me question my sanity
Speaker 2: as a human being. But they they went on that
Speaker 2: run early on. It was a four minute, nineteen to
Speaker 2: two run when they made six three pointers. So that's
Speaker 2: that's what did it today in Louisville. I think in
Speaker 2: the second half did a better job of me. I
Speaker 2: think they were I think the staff did a good
Speaker 2: job of countering Creton in the second half. You just
Speaker 2: dug yourself too big of a hole when you are
Speaker 2: who you are and they are who they are. And
Speaker 2: that's not just say say that we faced Goliath, but
Speaker 2: you can't Louisville can't spot many teams twenty right. I mean,
Speaker 2: it's just not ideal. So with all that said, you know,
Speaker 2: you just you had you had a run hit you
Speaker 2: that has not hit you all year. And in the
Speaker 2: second half. I think even in the second half, I
Speaker 2: feel like the vast majority of the things they did
Speaker 2: to counter any momentum that Louisville had established was them
Speaker 2: just making tough shots or or you know, or as
Speaker 2: you know sometimes you say it, they they pulled them
Speaker 2: stuff out of their ass, like that's what it was.
Speaker 2: I mean, some of those some of the things they
Speaker 2: did in the second half. I think the most of
Speaker 2: the things they did in the second half to really
Speaker 2: put a holt to any momentum Louisville had was them
Speaker 2: just you know, having a day early on not so much,
Speaker 2: but you know, you just can't. You can't dig that
Speaker 2: big of a hole. And you know, Creighton's the kind
Speaker 2: of team that they will make you pay for mistakes
Speaker 2: that that that's in the analytics, but they also don't
Speaker 2: make a ton of mistakes, and Louisville didn't make them
Speaker 2: make a ton of mistakes today. And that's that's to me.
Speaker 2: I think, you know, the bigger issue. Last thing I'll
Speaker 2: say is somebody, when of my buddies takes me, asked,
Speaker 2: does it feel do you feel good? Does at least
Speaker 2: feel good about being right? And nothing feels good about
Speaker 2: right now? And I questioned, like, what do you mean?
Speaker 2: And and he did bring up something and this is
Speaker 2: not a I told you so, but I'm just I think,
Speaker 2: you know, I'm right now, real like this is a
Speaker 2: real in the moment kind of thing to where I'm
Speaker 2: just thinking about, you know, what happened today, but three
Speaker 2: things that were mentioned by me here and there on
Speaker 2: the show and again trust me now and I told
Speaker 2: you so.
Speaker 5: Thing.
Speaker 2: I just think this was that this ended up being
Speaker 2: a factor in why today happened. One, they started running
Speaker 2: out of gas towards the end of the year, like
Speaker 2: they were still winning, but they didn't look the exact same.
Speaker 2: And I thought to myself, Okay, am I am I?
Speaker 2: Am I? Am I doing too much here? Am I
Speaker 2: asking theming to be perfect? Because that's not fair? Or
Speaker 2: am I noticing that they're still, you know, bringing the
Speaker 2: same attitude and you know they're still the same, but
Speaker 2: they they they're on E. The tank is on E.
Speaker 2: It looked that way, and I think it played out
Speaker 2: that way. I mean, maybe you could say, no, they
Speaker 2: beat Clemson, Okay, I don't think Clemson's that good. That
Speaker 2: doesn't change how I feel about Louisville. Don't think Clemson's
Speaker 2: that good. You know, they nearly lost to Stanford. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they played Duke for a half and I was and
Speaker 2: I thought they played well in that first half. They
Speaker 2: you know they were, they were given it all they had,
Speaker 2: and then they ran out of gas in the second half,
Speaker 2: especially Chucky. It's like they ran out of gas. Also,
Speaker 2: the seed thing, I don't think they were correctly seated
Speaker 2: at all, And if the ACC wasn't seated differently, it
Speaker 2: wouldn't be as big of an issue. But the reality
Speaker 2: is that Louisville's best win was Clemson twice. And again
Speaker 2: that's not me telling you, hey, this is what we get.
Speaker 2: We thought this team was good and they weren't. Not
Speaker 2: at all what I'm saying. But you left Actually no,
Speaker 2: I shouldn't say you left it open, because I don't
Speaker 2: think you could have controlled it. You could have beat
Speaker 2: some more teams that you didn't beat. But it was
Speaker 2: there for them to decide to view you a certain way.
Speaker 2: Why they decided to view Louisll different than every other
Speaker 2: ACC team, I'll never know, but but you know that
Speaker 2: was a factor like and then and again this is
Speaker 2: kind of the same thing, but it's but it's a
Speaker 2: little bit different. I think Louisville today played a team
Speaker 2: and look, people can Again, this is all a matter
Speaker 2: of opinion, and I can't prove it. And clearly the
Speaker 2: selection committee disagrees. I think Clemson is not as good
Speaker 2: as Creighton. I don't. So you know, when we talk
Speaker 2: about Louisville not being challenged a whole lot in the
Speaker 2: last couple of months, that's really not an excuse, like
Speaker 2: it doesn't you know you but because you can't control that.
Speaker 2: But like today, I felt like we played a team
Speaker 2: that was vastly better than everybody we've played outside of
Speaker 2: maybe two teams since January, And there's nothing you can
Speaker 2: do about that, right, But it at least makes me wonder,
Speaker 2: you know, did we have some confidence that maybe wasn't
Speaker 2: justified or did we just not get tested in a way. Now,
Speaker 2: the other end of that whole thing is that I
Speaker 2: don't know how many teams you can face that are
Speaker 2: going to give you a real look at what you're
Speaker 2: gonna face. When Ryan Kalchbrenner's on the roster and he
Speaker 2: wasn't even close to their most dominant player today, right,
Speaker 2: they had two guys that just went off on us.
Speaker 2: I mean, kalk Brenner, I feel like I had a
Speaker 2: light day, but man, his presence was a factor on
Speaker 2: both ends for both teams. They don't foil because they
Speaker 2: don't have to. They'll bait you into getting into the
Speaker 2: lane to taking a contested, off balance, very indecisive shot,
Speaker 2: or he'll block your shot, or on defense you'll gang
Speaker 2: rebound and they'll have options to tap it out for
Speaker 2: a for a three point you know, a second chance
Speaker 2: shot from the three point line. So you know, anyways,
Speaker 2: back to the phone lines, let's let's go to Will Will.
Speaker 2: What's happening?
Speaker 4: Hey, what's up?
Speaker 5: Man? Hey?
Speaker 6: I think you're correct on a lot of that. I
Speaker 6: think we're gonna be saying basically the same things because
Speaker 6: you know, I look at, Okay, our week conference that
Speaker 6: you kind of alluded to that did we get tested? Okay,
Speaker 6: of course we had a week. It's all good. We
Speaker 6: didn't have a strong big man to counter this guy, correct,
Speaker 6: you know, correct, Okay, tough. They had a tough conference.
Speaker 6: I think they came in fourth in the Big East, Creighton,
Speaker 6: I think second finished second.
Speaker 5: Okay, So think about that.
Speaker 6: I mean you're talking about Mark chat Yukon right in
Speaker 6: uh Saint John's so big tested team. The seating, I
Speaker 6: think the psychology of the seating for us, the mentality
Speaker 6: of how that went down.
Speaker 5: We did get you know what, but I think, you know,
Speaker 5: and also.
Speaker 6: The talk was we were like we kind of jumped
Speaker 6: to Auburn, like, you know, we gotta beat Creighton first.
Speaker 4: I'm not saying that could have been.
Speaker 6: Good material for the coach for Creighton to say, look,
Speaker 6: they're not even scared of us, they're pissed off because
Speaker 6: they're gonna get Auburn. I don't know how much that
Speaker 6: played in, but I kind of thought that. And when
Speaker 6: Chucky made that weak foul right in the beginning, like
Speaker 6: you said that fatigue, it just didn't seem energetic.
Speaker 4: He kind of bow the kid way after he had
Speaker 4: it was.
Speaker 2: Fatigue carried over to poor decisions for this team in
Speaker 2: the last month that was not there really for the
Speaker 2: majority of the season, even when they weren't great, And
Speaker 2: I you know, I think some of the decisions defensively,
Speaker 2: some of the decisions offensively. I just, you know, I
Speaker 2: don't know how you can go from being a team
Speaker 2: that usually is safe and doesn't make a lot of
Speaker 2: poor decisions and is very calculated to where at times
Speaker 2: it's just almost like what the hell were you're doing?
Speaker 2: I think, you know, there's a lot of things you
Speaker 2: could throw in as a factor, but I think fatigue
Speaker 2: was one of them. I think these guys were were
Speaker 2: clearly worn down, and you know, it's not an excuse
Speaker 2: for losing and really not really being in the game today.
Speaker 2: But overall, I mean, I just think I could feel
Speaker 2: it building, you know, and incison And I told you
Speaker 2: so thing again, I'll keep saying that because I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't, I don't, I don't. I wasn't. I thought
Speaker 2: louis will win today. I really did. But then again,
Speaker 2: you know, you get out there and you see crating
Speaker 2: up against the louisvill and you realize, okay, this is
Speaker 2: a team that you could play well and still maybe
Speaker 2: have a tough time beating, because you know what, they're
Speaker 2: a pretty good team too. I thought it was a
Speaker 2: very competitive matchup from top to bottom. It's just you know,
Speaker 2: they had their day and Louisville didn't, and you know,
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, they were better.
Speaker 7: One more thing, quickly, I know you got to go.
Speaker 5: I love the guys.
Speaker 6: I'm not criticized by any of the guys, but I
Speaker 6: do think we're gonna have to dig in deeper with
Speaker 6: our recruiting.
Speaker 2: In of course, yes, this look, this team, this team
Speaker 2: is yeah, this team did not have again even before
Speaker 2: And I appreciate the call, Will because I don't think
Speaker 2: I don't think you're wrong. What was easy to forget
Speaker 2: is that Louisville went aggressively after big men and they
Speaker 2: didn't get them right. They went after and I mean,
Speaker 2: like you know, Caseen was the stretch four that you
Speaker 2: coveted and you got it, but they were going after
Speaker 2: some other real bigs because the thought of James Scott
Speaker 2: being your your full time five man, it didn't you know,
Speaker 2: if you remember before we ever watched this team play
Speaker 2: was the one thing that stood out like, hm, I
Speaker 2: don't know if that makes a lot of sense. So
Speaker 2: they didn't get it. And throughout the year they they
Speaker 2: clearly did enough to to you know, to get by
Speaker 2: without having just your the big man is kind of dead,
Speaker 2: but Louisville didn't have anybody. You throw it into the post.
Speaker 2: Put it this way, Louisville's best back to the basket
Speaker 2: players be be you know, closer to you know, within
Speaker 2: the three point line. Were there guards? It was I
Speaker 2: mean Chucky and and Javon, I mean Chucky, would you
Speaker 2: know he's not a post player, but like he would
Speaker 2: literally like at times take advantage of a guy physically,
Speaker 2: same thing with with same thing with Javon. You know,
Speaker 2: he would use the tweener to where if they put
Speaker 2: a smaller guy on and he would back up Louil.
Speaker 2: It didn't have any any post presence and you know,
Speaker 2: we got to get to a break and promise you
Speaker 2: we'll get to Ben on the other side. He'll wrap
Speaker 2: up the four o'clock hour for us. But when it
Speaker 2: comes to like Pat Kelsey, I think this year he
Speaker 2: didn't have a weapon that makes his offense dangerous. And
Speaker 2: that's it. That's that's that's Ali Khalif. And that's not
Speaker 2: to say he's going to be a big missing link,
Speaker 2: but he's the kind of guy. He's a passer, he's
Speaker 2: a guy that can facilitate for your for your shooters,
Speaker 2: and they just didn't really have that this year. And
Speaker 2: you know, they made up for for the most part,
Speaker 2: but they were at a disadvantage in the front court
Speaker 2: I think a lot this year, but they made up
Speaker 2: for it with just guys you know, like Javon and James,
Speaker 2: those guys. They played hard as hell all year and
Speaker 2: I think you got the most out of them as
Speaker 2: far as what they're capable of. You know, James Scott,
Speaker 2: he needs to get better offensively, like Jerry said, but
Speaker 2: I don't know if he's ever going to be a
Speaker 2: polished offensive player. You know, he's gonna be a guy
Speaker 2: that does what he did this year, and you need
Speaker 2: a guy like that, right, quick break, come back on
Speaker 2: the other side, keep it locked right here in Sports
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Speaker 2: All right, coming up here at the top of the hour,
Speaker 2: we will let you guys hear from a couple of
Speaker 2: the players as well as Pat Kelsey. After the season
Speaker 2: came to an end of the day, Louisville loses first
Speaker 2: game of the n CIMBLA Tournament, their first trip there
Speaker 2: in six years, and a reminder how much it sucks
Speaker 2: to be the first team out and a reminder of
Speaker 2: how painful it is to have the march sadness. If
Speaker 2: it was a fun ride, but seeing it come to
Speaker 2: an end, it sucks. We'll also get you caught up
Speaker 2: on the score from around the country. Clemson. As I
Speaker 2: mentioned earlier, I just I mean maybe maybe they'll end
Speaker 2: up pulling off a magical run. But they're down eight
Speaker 2: to sixteen. They've scored eight points in eleven minutes here
Speaker 2: against In fact, now they're down eight to eighteen to
Speaker 2: McNeese State. So again that I don't say this to
Speaker 2: try to, you know, justify my thoughts on the ACC
Speaker 2: and Louisville and their challenges before they got here. But
Speaker 2: I mean, I just I can't lie and say that
Speaker 2: I've ever thought Clemson was like a team that from
Speaker 2: a talent standpoint, you just really have to be scared of.
Speaker 2: But anyways, as far as matchups today, Creighton was a
Speaker 2: bad matchup for Louisville because of really what they what
Speaker 2: they have as a physical presence that we don't have
Speaker 2: when we play Clemson, We're a terrible matchup for them,
Speaker 2: you know, just so it works both ways. Or let's
Speaker 2: go back to the phone lines. Well, welcome in, Ben Ben,
Speaker 2: You're on Sports Talk seven ninety. How are we doing today?
Speaker 4: Hey, what's up?
Speaker 7: Nick?
Speaker 5: Man?
Speaker 4: That was brutal, brother.
Speaker 2: It hurts, man, it does. And you know I came
Speaker 2: down for this game.
Speaker 4: No, you know, I don't regret it.
Speaker 7: But man, as fun as it was, and you know,
Speaker 7: as cool as it was to be able to play
Speaker 7: so close, it's not the worst place you'd rather.
Speaker 2: Lose and freaking the ring, that's true. Yeah, I didn't
Speaker 2: even think about that. That's another component to today's disaster.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was rough.
Speaker 4: And let me around the stadium for a second. Man,
Speaker 4: that stadium sucks. They started Hunt Brothers pizza for crying
Speaker 4: out loud. I mean garbage.
Speaker 7: They still got freaking bleachers up top. The restroom sucks.
Speaker 2: It'll make you appreciate the um on it.
Speaker 4: It will. Man. But you know, Nick, I kind of
Speaker 4: disagree with the last collars said that the players overlooked man.
Speaker 4: Corcknan is a good freaking program.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're right. I don't think I should have.
Speaker 2: I should have said I was trying to manage the clock.
Speaker 2: But I don't think there's any scenario where Louisville lost
Speaker 2: today because anybody player or staff was thinking about Auburn.
Speaker 4: Yeah no, I mean like Creighton has won a tournament
Speaker 4: game five.
Speaker 3: Years in a row now, so I mean very well
Speaker 3: coached and.
Speaker 4: Yeah, very work. Hell, we wanted a coach a lot
Speaker 4: of our you know, a lot of our fans. One
Speaker 4: of that coach and you know, our our players have
Speaker 4: been in college basketball for a long time. They know
Speaker 4: claim is good. They were not thinking about Auburn.
Speaker 7: Now now I will say they were deflected, not deflected,
Speaker 7: but you could tell that getting the eighth seed kind
Speaker 7: of pissed them off. I mean, Kelsey played out said it,
Speaker 7: you know. But as far as overlooking the matchup, dude,
Speaker 7: I just don't see.
Speaker 4: I just think that they were a better team. They're
Speaker 4: they're better built, They're they're more of a complete roster,
Speaker 4: like like he keeps saying, we just ran out of gas.
Speaker 4: We don't have the dogs. We just man.
Speaker 7: It hurts, but you know, and James Scott man, I
Speaker 7: love James Scott and I love the bigs. But he's
Speaker 7: gonna probably have to sign another He's gonna have to
Speaker 7: find another move man, Like we're gonna we're gonna have
Speaker 7: to develop maybe a.
Speaker 4: Big man or something.
Speaker 1: Nick.
Speaker 7: But I'll just ask you question for I ain't up, Nick,
Speaker 7: What's what's What do you think is the biggest point
Speaker 7: in emphasis for Litvill Cardinals this offseason?
Speaker 2: I hung up and listen, Nick, Thanks, Ben appreciate it.
Speaker 2: I would say, I mean they're I mean, if you
Speaker 2: ask Pat Kelsey. Even off the record, he would he
Speaker 2: would tell you that it's not about like, hey, we
Speaker 2: got to do this, and that it's just him continuing.
Speaker 2: He's going to continue to do what he does as
Speaker 2: far as you know, I mean, he's gonna build it.
Speaker 2: He's gonna try to build his team the same way
Speaker 2: he does every year. He's just gonna hope to you know,
Speaker 2: get get the get the players that he wants. So,
Speaker 2: I mean, I think talent wise, I mean, I don't know,
Speaker 2: it's tough because I think this year's team is a
Speaker 2: tricky team when it comes to talk about overall talent
Speaker 2: because I do think Terrence was a gifted scorer and
Speaker 2: Chucky is a very talented player. Javaon is a good player,
Speaker 2: But I don't know if it's because of just god
Speaker 2: given talent. He clearly has that much more than most.
Speaker 2: It's just that you know, he was he was very sad,
Speaker 2: just a good, good player. So you know, I think
Speaker 2: there are teams this this year that weren't nearly as
Speaker 2: successful as Louisville, that maybe lost to Louisville, that maybe
Speaker 2: you know, didn't have nearly as good as years to
Speaker 2: Loisll what a lost him if they played him, that
Speaker 2: wouldn't that you wouldn't say had like a big talent disadvantage.
Speaker 2: I think he's gonna you know, he's gonna try. Long
Speaker 2: story short, They're gonna they want a big like at
Speaker 2: Charleston this year, the reigning player of the year that
Speaker 2: coach Kelsey coached last year, he stayed at Charleston, and
Speaker 2: I'll I don't know if they ever never. I don't
Speaker 2: know if they try to bring him, if he didn't
Speaker 2: want to come. He's a big man from uh, he's European,
Speaker 2: so I don't know if maybe he had an arrangement
Speaker 2: to where they were doing something to get by the
Speaker 2: lack of event like or maybe he just realized, hey,
Speaker 2: I can't go make money in Nil because I'm not
Speaker 2: a US citizen to where I'm just gonna stay a
Speaker 2: Charleston because I love it here. I don't know, We'll
Speaker 2: never know. But he's the kind of big that really
Speaker 2: they didn't have this year that Pat Kelsey's best teams,
Speaker 2: And it's really tough to compare his best team's worst
Speaker 2: teams because again, you know, Louisville being a top twenty
Speaker 2: five team, top ten team as today in the ap
Speaker 2: pole that you know like that, that's clearly his best
Speaker 2: team he's ever coach. But it's a different level. So
Speaker 2: they're gonna they're gonna want to get a big that
Speaker 2: can can really not only facilitate and do some things
Speaker 2: to get the shooters better looks than what you got
Speaker 2: this year or you know, but you know, and Khalifa
Speaker 2: can do that as far as a passer, but as
Speaker 2: far as long term, you know, when it comes to
Speaker 2: just your overall front court, they need more talent, there's
Speaker 2: no doubt about it. They need more offensive you know, ability,
Speaker 2: They need teams to be able to be they need
Speaker 2: teams to worry about, all right, we can't let this
Speaker 2: guy just you know, go to work on us in
Speaker 2: the post. They didn't have that this year, right, they didn't.
Speaker 2: And this year a lot of a lot of the
Speaker 2: scoring at times was done by Chucky Hepburn just being
Speaker 2: Chucky Hepburn, rather him being good enough to just go
Speaker 2: go get a bucket, go make a tough shot or
Speaker 2: create because he's that good. In previous Pat Kelsey teams
Speaker 2: that I'm aware of, they didn't have a guy like that.
Speaker 2: So what you lacked previously with what cat Pat wants
Speaker 2: to do. You made up for it at times because
Speaker 2: Chucky was that that good all. We gotta get to
Speaker 2: a break. We'll come back on the other side. Get
Speaker 2: some more of your phone calls. Let you guys hear
Speaker 2: from from this team. I've already heard some of the
Speaker 2: audio that I'm gonna play with you. Play for you guys.
Speaker 2: That just reminds me of how you know, how much
Speaker 2: I love this group and sucks they lost today. Hate it,
Speaker 2: but could have been a better group of guys to
Speaker 2: kind of bring us back to life. And I guess
Speaker 2: remind us how much it hurts when you love a
Speaker 2: team and you have a fun season, a good season,
Speaker 2: and then you know it comes to an end. Keep
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