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<v Speaker 1>The Mandy Connell Show is sponsored by Bell and Pollock

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<v Speaker 1>Accident and injury Lawyers.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's Mandy Connell, Mandy Ton.

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<v Speaker 3>On KOAM ninety one FM.

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<v Speaker 4>Got Guy Can the nicety three Ny Donald Keeping Sad Things.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome, Welcome, Welcome to a Friday edition, to the show altogether.

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<v Speaker 2>Now please give up. All right, Well you're going to

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<v Speaker 2>take you right up until three o'clock. I've got a

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<v Speaker 2>text line by texting us at five sixty six nine. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>how many of you out there and listening?

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<v Speaker 3>Land?

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<v Speaker 2>Actually? You who with us? Yahoo? How many? How many?

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<v Speaker 1>Woo?

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<v Speaker 5>Who?

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<v Speaker 6>I mean? I think we need to just have people

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<v Speaker 6>text in saying.

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<v Speaker 2>Whoooo oh yeah, man, if they do, what's holding you back?

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<v Speaker 6>That was where I was going, so say either woo woo, yes,

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<v Speaker 6>why WoT?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>If you don't, I mean, if you're in your office,

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<v Speaker 2>that might seem like a valid reason. But imagine how

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<v Speaker 2>exciting it would be if at noon every Friday you

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<v Speaker 2>sat there in your cubicle with your headphones on and

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<v Speaker 2>just yelled out woohoo. I mean it would be it

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<v Speaker 2>would be like a thing. You'd be noticed. The woo

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<v Speaker 2>who person, it would be incredible?

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<v Speaker 6>Well are you woo wooing, Steve?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, if you have a heard of the Mandy Connell Show,

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<v Speaker 3>you con doing the very free to use iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 6>Wow, that's awesome. Can I get involved? Yes, you can

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<v Speaker 6>use the red little top bag mugg and you can

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<v Speaker 6>talk to Mandy Conna.

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<v Speaker 7>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Really yeah, you can text in.

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<v Speaker 6>Two five six six, you're the commentary of health text line.

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<v Speaker 7>Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>Can I talk to on the phone sometimes three three

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<v Speaker 3>five three or three one three eight five A five when.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the thing we're doing. Yeah, I I we we honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>Uh really, no one ever calls anymore to Uh, let's

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<v Speaker 2>talk about what's on because we got a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>stuff on the blog today, and I actually left a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of stuff off the blog that I found that

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<v Speaker 2>was kind of interesting. I just figured I'd put it

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<v Speaker 2>on next week's blog because there's a lot of little stories. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>the biggest story in the country is still the horrific

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<v Speaker 2>fires raging in southern California, and they are still raging,

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<v Speaker 2>and Pacific Palisades is pretty much gone. At Malibu, huge

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<v Speaker 2>swaths of Malibu are gone. Uh, this is such a

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<v Speaker 2>devastating event. I mean really devastating, and it's easy to

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<v Speaker 2>pick on people from California about wow. I hope you're

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<v Speaker 2>not one of those people on the internet dunking on

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<v Speaker 2>peoples that you disagree with politically have just lost everything.

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<v Speaker 2>I certainly hope that's not what you're spending your time doing. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>this person said, I just did of the woo who

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<v Speaker 2>and I scared the dog. Your dog needs to toughen up.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, it's your dog. The woo who with you?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I woo who? Everyone says this person, I do wahoo.

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<v Speaker 2>How funny. I usually don't, but I did just now

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<v Speaker 2>woohoo a woo hoo? Or yes, everybody, you guys sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>just shouting out woohoo, it's gonna lift your spirits. How

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<v Speaker 2>can you not will yell out woohoo and then not

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<v Speaker 2>be happier? I'm sure there's woo see just try it.

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<v Speaker 2>You're having a bad day, you're in a intense conversation

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<v Speaker 2>with your spouse, why don't you just take a sec

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<v Speaker 2>and be like woohoo. Maybe not an intense conversation with

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<v Speaker 2>your spouse, that would be a bad idea, But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes your actions can actually lift your mood. Sometimes if

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<v Speaker 2>you just do and you act a certain way, your

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<v Speaker 2>mood will follow. And that's what the Wooho's all about.

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<v Speaker 2>This person said, I do, although it is silent in

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<v Speaker 2>my cubicle, otherwise loud and proud everywhere else. Love the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, sir, Thank you very much. Appreciate you. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>go to the blog for a moment, shall we. You

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<v Speaker 2>can find it by going to mandy'sblog dot com. That's

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<v Speaker 2>mandy'sblog dot com. Look for the headline this says one

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<v Speaker 2>ten twenty four blog what is psychedelic like assisted therapy

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<v Speaker 2>the headlines you will find within techte.

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<v Speaker 5>A winner, I didn'ts in office, half of American All

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<v Speaker 2>Class today on the blood. Let's talk about the use

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<v Speaker 2>of psychedelics in therapy. Let's talk about traumatic brain injury

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<v Speaker 2>for a minute. Paul Is welcomes the FEDS to deport

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<v Speaker 2>criminal aliens the Cali fires Coadjack of our insurance rates,

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<v Speaker 2>the sausage is made. Yes, our suicide rates are too high.

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<v Speaker 2>Explosive home price growth is over for now. Being an

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<v Speaker 2>underdog doesn't bother the Broncos. Oh wow, that's shacked up there.

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<v Speaker 2>How to scare an introvert? I don't know who did this.

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<v Speaker 2>Menopausal women are ready to ride at dawn. TikTok threatens

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<v Speaker 2>the Supreme Court. Bobert introduces a bill to acts the ATF.

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<v Speaker 2>Anita Bryant has passed Biden's trans heavy title nine reforms

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<v Speaker 2>are dead. Fox News will be facing smart Maneck in court.

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<v Speaker 2>Delta gets kudos for having a heart. Could the Broncos

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<v Speaker 2>be coming to lone treat? The Consumer electronics show is over.

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<v Speaker 2>The mayor of La says, let's not point fingers. What

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<v Speaker 2>longevity experts do in their own lives. Lots of fun

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<v Speaker 2>stuff to do this weekend. Six new non alcoholic beers

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<v Speaker 2>to try tgif everybody? How Snoop Dogg became Snoop? Those

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<v Speaker 2>are the headlines on the blog at Mandy's blog dot com.

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<v Speaker 6>What what was the website of our blog again?

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<v Speaker 2>Mandy's blog dot Cohow not at your el got it?

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<v Speaker 6>Just making sure? I'm I'm just making sure that to.

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<v Speaker 2>Play that I was just gonna play this. I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>get it in time for me to put it on

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<v Speaker 2>the blog this morning because I had an appointment this morning.

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<v Speaker 2>Got ready, but you do, Okay, So we are having

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<v Speaker 2>a grand old time mocking the mayor of Los Angeles,

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<v Speaker 2>who in the most one of the most well Los

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<v Speaker 2>Angeles has had its moments right where things have gone

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<v Speaker 2>terribly wrong, but this is a particularly bad moment in

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<v Speaker 2>the history of Los Angeles, California. And unfortunately their mayor, who,

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<v Speaker 2>after the fire warnings went up flew to Ghana so

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<v Speaker 2>she could be there for the inauguration of the new

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<v Speaker 2>Ghanese president. And I believe it's gone. He's gonna, He's gonna,

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<v Speaker 2>isn't Ghana? Whatever she was in Ghana when all this

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<v Speaker 2>started happening, she has been an abject failure since she

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<v Speaker 2>got back, and it continued last night when she had

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<v Speaker 2>a full on Joe Biden moment while reading from prepared

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<v Speaker 2>remarks at the lectern. Please let's hear Mayor Karen Bass

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<v Speaker 2>of Los Angeles, California right now.

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<v Speaker 8>If you need help, emergency information, resources and shelter is available.

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<v Speaker 9>All of this can be found at you are l bruh,

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<v Speaker 9>you are l oh, my god, at you are L.

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<v Speaker 8>So one of your funny go ahead right now if

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<v Speaker 8>you need help, emergency information, resources and shelter is available.

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<v Speaker 9>All of this can be found at you are L.

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<v Speaker 6>Ruh. First of all, what are we doing?

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<v Speaker 2>Let me just explain to those of you who may

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<v Speaker 2>not understand, you know how briefing for oppressor goes. Her

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<v Speaker 2>staff prepared those comments, and someone on her staff was

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to insert the u r L before they printed

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<v Speaker 2>it out, and they just didn't, and no one fact

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<v Speaker 2>checked it, no one looked at it. And she should

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<v Speaker 2>have said, oh, they forgot the website, but instead she

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<v Speaker 2>just said, you are L. You know what, that had

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<v Speaker 2>to be incredibly comforting for the people of California that

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<v Speaker 2>have lost everything. Their homes are destroyed, they have nowhere

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<v Speaker 2>to go, they have no clue what's happening next.

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<v Speaker 9>It must be.

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<v Speaker 2>Incredibly comfort comforting for them to know that if they

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<v Speaker 2>need help, all they have to do is go to

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<v Speaker 2>u URL.

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<v Speaker 3>She kept going and didn't realize it either. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I watched the full clip.

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<v Speaker 2>She kept going, I think she doesn't know what a

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<v Speaker 2>URL is? I mean, is that is that possible to

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<v Speaker 2>not know what a URL is?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to give her a one percent saving grace

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<v Speaker 3>because I saw in the comments on the video.

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<v Speaker 6>I saw with the universities there.

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<v Speaker 3>Being UCLA and USC Maybe she thought for a second,

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<v Speaker 3>brain farted and thought can be found maybe at like

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<v Speaker 3>at the campuses of the.

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<v Speaker 2>University specifically, was talking about the website. Play it again,

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<v Speaker 2>Play it again, I mean, just play the whole thing

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<v Speaker 2>again real quick. Here we go, because she doesn't have

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<v Speaker 2>possible right now.

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<v Speaker 8>If you need help, the emergency information resources and shelter

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<v Speaker 8>is available.

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<v Speaker 9>All of this can be found at you.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh maybe she didn't. I thought she had mentioned websites specifically.

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<v Speaker 6>So maybe you are.

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<v Speaker 2>Can we hope that's the case because if not, bruh, shame, shame, shame.

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<v Speaker 6>Where is the PIO?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and okay, that's the thing. First of all, you

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you can make the argument the mayor needs

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<v Speaker 2>to be heard at these press conferences.

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<v Speaker 9>I get it.

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<v Speaker 2>But then the mayor's says, and now here is blabbaye blah,

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<v Speaker 2>our public information officer, which is what PIO stands for,

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<v Speaker 2>and she is going to fill in some of the

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<v Speaker 2>details of what we're doing. And then you step aside

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<v Speaker 2>and you let your public information officer most of whom

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<v Speaker 2>have come from the media. Don't you think most of

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<v Speaker 2>the pios I have dealt with have had such a

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<v Speaker 2>media experience in their background. That's why they're chosen to

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<v Speaker 2>be the public information officer. So then you hand it over.

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<v Speaker 2>But she she's a disaster.

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<v Speaker 6>Here's the thing. Her team needs to take a page

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<v Speaker 6>out of Joe Biden's team.

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<v Speaker 3>When you know your leader, don't got it, hide the

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<v Speaker 3>person as much as you can, Yep, Hide them behind

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<v Speaker 3>a wall of people that will talk for you back

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<v Speaker 3>and make decisions for you. They are not getting the

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<v Speaker 3>memo that you can do that because the president could. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>the mayor of LA be hidden behind the wall of

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<v Speaker 3>pios and pr people because.

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<v Speaker 6>Stop bliddy, you're getting front of a microphone.

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<v Speaker 2>Hang on, have Mayor of Los Angeles salary?

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<v Speaker 6>Should we drop up her resignation letter now? Or let

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<v Speaker 6>her team do it?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we're gonna have plenty of time to point fingers later.

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<v Speaker 2>That's her standard line now, And her standard line is

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<v Speaker 2>she makes two hundred and thirty two dollars at four

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and twenty three hundred. Let me try that again, Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>two hundred and thirty two, four hundred and twenty six

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<v Speaker 2>dollars according to the La Times. Fellow farer, Oh wow, No,

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<v Speaker 2>wait a minute, that's from twenty ten. She's got to

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<v Speaker 2>make more than that now, mayor of Los Angeles. Blah

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<v Speaker 2>blah blah. Two hundred and sixty nine thousand, three hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and sixty five dollars. That is two hundred and fifty

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<v Speaker 2>thousand dollars too much in my opinion. But ultimately she

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<v Speaker 2>is uh never going to have a political career after this.

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<v Speaker 2>Can we talk for a second about something that's not

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<v Speaker 2>on the blog because I had this yesterday. Kamala Harris

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<v Speaker 2>has announced that she is canceled a trip that no

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<v Speaker 2>one knew that she was going to take, and ultimately

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<v Speaker 6>Here it is.

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<v Speaker 2>In response to historic wildfires in Los Angeles, the Vice

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<v Speaker 2>President has made the decision to cancel her and the

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<v Speaker 2>Second Gentleman's upcoming trip to Singapore, Bahrain, and Germany. She

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<v Speaker 2>will remain in the United States to support the federal response.

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<v Speaker 2>She thinks she still has a political career, you guys.

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<v Speaker 2>First of all, does anybody believe that her going to

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<v Speaker 2>Singapore Bahrain and Germany on the taxpayer dime, is anything

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<v Speaker 2>more but a last minute vacation. I mean, come on,

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<v Speaker 2>Kamala Harris really believes that she has a future. Someone

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<v Speaker 2>needs to tell her she does not, and nor does

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<v Speaker 2>Karen Vass of Los Angeles. You know what's happening. In

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<v Speaker 2>a completely shallow, police only way of looking at what's

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<v Speaker 2>happening in Los Angeles right now, we have several levels

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<v Speaker 2>where women have been elevated to positions that they are

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<v Speaker 2>not qualified for, whether it's the lesbian running the fire

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<v Speaker 2>department or the mayor who is running Los Angeles badly.

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<v Speaker 2>There are women failing spectacularly because they were hired because

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<v Speaker 2>they were women, not because they were ready or right

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<v Speaker 2>for the job. And that puts women back decades, decades,

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<v Speaker 2>and not only that, it casts dispersions on every other

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<v Speaker 2>woman who has made it to a position of power,

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<v Speaker 2>who did work and get it the right way. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you guys, it's like it's terrible and the people of

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<v Speaker 2>Los Angeles. I was talking to Chuck about this today.

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<v Speaker 2>What is going to happen in California after these fires

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<v Speaker 2>are done is really unpredictable. Right at this very moment,

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<v Speaker 2>because we're talking about billions of dollars in real estate

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<v Speaker 2>that's already been destroyed, and all of it is in

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<v Speaker 2>the exact same place. So now you have a dearth

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<v Speaker 2>of architects and contractors. The permitting departments are going to

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<v Speaker 2>be completely overwhelmed, and at the same time, some people

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<v Speaker 2>are just going to give up and move Now while

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<v Speaker 2>all of this stuff is being rebuilt, I'm guessing in California,

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<v Speaker 2>it's probably going to take three to four years to

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<v Speaker 2>get this stuff even rebuilt to any modicum of rebuilding.

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<v Speaker 2>All of the money that would be in the community

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<v Speaker 2>and in the economy from those houses, property values, property taxes,

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<v Speaker 2>sales taxes, all of the things that used to bring

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<v Speaker 2>in money for the state of California, they're gone, and

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<v Speaker 2>the State of California would refuse. And I had this

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<v Speaker 2>on the blog yesterday, but we didn't talk about it.

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<v Speaker 2>State Farm is getting a lot of crap because they

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<v Speaker 2>canceled a bunch of policies in the Palisades area last fall.

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<v Speaker 2>But they did so because they went to the State

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<v Speaker 2>of California and said, we need to charge higher premiums

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<v Speaker 2>to cover for the increased wildfire risk that we now

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<v Speaker 2>see in the near future, in the near future, near term,

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<v Speaker 2>and the State of California said no, we're not gonna

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<v Speaker 2>let you raise rates. So that means I'm guessing at

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<v Speaker 2>least a portion of the people that were just dropped

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<v Speaker 2>by State farm became reliant on California's own insure last resort,

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<v Speaker 2>the state run option. So that means the state is

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<v Speaker 2>now on the hook for helping all these people rebuild,

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<v Speaker 2>and they're not going to have the same money coming

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<v Speaker 2>in that they had before this thing. This fire could

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<v Speaker 2>utterly and completely collapse California's entire system. That is a

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<v Speaker 2>real possibility. And so the devastation here is so far reaching,

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<v Speaker 2>and we haven't even finished it yet. These fires aren't

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<v Speaker 2>remotely out and I don't know if.

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<v Speaker 9>Anybody else saw this.

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<v Speaker 2>They're literally catching people with blow torches trying to start

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<v Speaker 2>more fires.

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<v Speaker 9>I mean, what the hell.

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<v Speaker 2>This is just super incredibly bad and it is not

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<v Speaker 2>going to be a short term situation. If you think

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<v Speaker 2>we've seen a lot of Californias before this, Holy cow,

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<v Speaker 2>wait until they get their insurance checks and they look

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<v Speaker 2>at their burned out house and know they're not going

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<v Speaker 2>to be able to get it done. For four years

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<v Speaker 2>in California because everything in California takes too long because

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<v Speaker 2>of government, and they're going to pack up and say enough,

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<v Speaker 2>we're done, We're out of here. That's exactly what happened

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<v Speaker 2>in Florida after Hurricane Andrew, where I lived in North Florida,

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<v Speaker 2>which had never had an influx of anyone from any

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<v Speaker 2>other part of Florida. All of a sudden, we're getting

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<v Speaker 2>all these people moving from Miami because they got a

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<v Speaker 2>check that allowed them to move to a rural area

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<v Speaker 2>by a decent piece of property and build a house

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<v Speaker 2>and have money left over. They chose not to rebuild.

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<v Speaker 2>And how far beaten down do you have to be

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<v Speaker 2>as a Californian before you just decide it's not worth

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<v Speaker 2>it anymore, and you look for a place with a

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<v Speaker 2>similar climate, maybe slightly similar politics because you haven't learned

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<v Speaker 7>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>And then here they come Colorado. Here they come with

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<v Speaker 2>big checks to buy real estate for cash. So here's

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<v Speaker 2>my only thing is this, Maybe losing your home in

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<v Speaker 2>a catastrophic fire changes your politics enough that they won't

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<v Speaker 2>continue to help Colorado californicate itself at the rate that

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<v Speaker 2>we have been doing so maybe just maybe, well what

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<v Speaker 2>we'll see, we shall see. I mean, these fires are

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<v Speaker 2>having long term repercussions, and one of them is in

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<v Speaker 2>our insurance costs. I've got two stories today, one kind

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<v Speaker 2>of a macro view of talking about how big insurers

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<v Speaker 2>are starting to pull coverage in certain areas of Colorado

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<v Speaker 2>because of the fire risks and wildfire risk and things

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<v Speaker 2>of that nature. And this is one of those things

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<v Speaker 2>where government is going to look at this and say, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>we need to further tax other taxpayers, create some kind

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<v Speaker 2>of government option, which we've already done, and then that's

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<v Speaker 2>going to solve the problem, when in reality they need

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<v Speaker 2>to be going to the insurance companies and saying, what

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<v Speaker 2>can we do as a government to decrease the risk

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<v Speaker 2>and make it more likely that you want to cover

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<v Speaker 2>us Here in Colorado. The big thing driving our costs

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<v Speaker 2>here in Colorado where hail claims you know I have.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know them. They live several blocks away from me,

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<v Speaker 2>but I've seen them get four new roofs in the

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<v Speaker 2>last ten years. Now, Guys, I know haill damage can

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<v Speaker 2>be really bad, but my house went through those same hailstorms.

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<v Speaker 2>My neighbor's homes went through those same hailstorms. It's like

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<v Speaker 2>every time they have a hailstorm they make a claim.

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<v Speaker 2>We need to get better about not abusing our homeowners

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<v Speaker 2>insurance cause right now it's going to create a disastrous

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<v Speaker 2>situation in Colorado. In California, we'll talk more about the

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<v Speaker 2>on the other side, because the Wall Street Journal does

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<v Speaker 2>a deep dive, but it's paywalled, so i'll share it

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<v Speaker 2>with you. Next, I want to finish talking about what

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<v Speaker 2>California is going to do to our our homeowner's insurance

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<v Speaker 2>here in Colorado, because this is this is going to

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<v Speaker 2>be a very significant thing that we need to pay

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<v Speaker 2>attention to. And the Wall Street Journal had a long

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<v Speaker 2>story on it that says what wildfires mean for America's

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<v Speaker 2>home insurance bills, with insurance losses ballooning, home insurance rates

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<v Speaker 2>and places like Vermont and Virginia are rising too. And

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<v Speaker 2>now this is really frustrating to me because this is

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<v Speaker 2>one of those patently unfair things, right that you have

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<v Speaker 2>to deal with. Say you choose to move to a

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<v Speaker 2>place with a relatively mild climate that doesn't have a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of natural disasters. Every place in the United States

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<v Speaker 2>of America has some kind of natural disaster. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>at some point they have to deal with something. But

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<v Speaker 2>maybe you move to a place this statistically has and

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<v Speaker 2>you do that consciously. You choose not to try and

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<v Speaker 2>move to the beach, even though you'd love to live

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<v Speaker 2>at the beach, because you know that the liability there

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<v Speaker 2>is so high, So you choose to move someplace base.

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<v Speaker 2>And then and then all of a sudden, your insurance

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<v Speaker 2>company is like, yeah, we're gonna have to raise your

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<v Speaker 2>rates because people who live on the ocean in California

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<v Speaker 2>just wiped out. You know, all their stuff was wiped out.

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<v Speaker 2>Like this's just, in my mind, patently unfair. And yet

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<v Speaker 2>that is how insurance works, and it has to work

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<v Speaker 2>that way or it wouldn't work at all.

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<v Speaker 3>And this is what.

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<v Speaker 2>California is about to find out, because California is they

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<v Speaker 2>have a state run insurer of last resort. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know how many policies they have, I don't know how

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<v Speaker 2>much how much actual business, like with their book of

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<v Speaker 2>business in terms of what they're now on the hook for.

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<v Speaker 2>Looks like I'm guessing too the California probably won't have

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<v Speaker 2>enough money in their reserves because I bet they don't

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<v Speaker 2>hold their own insurance to the same standards they hold

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<v Speaker 2>private insurance too. Private insurers are required by law to

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<v Speaker 2>hold x amount of dollars in kind of liquid assets,

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<v Speaker 2>so they're able to pay those claims should the claims

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<v Speaker 2>come in. Now, with a kind of catastrophic situation we're

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<v Speaker 2>seeing right now and coming on the heels of a

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<v Speaker 2>massive hurricane that destroyed parts of North Carolina, Florida, and Georgia,

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<v Speaker 2>you are talking massive, massive, massive insurance losses right now.

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<v Speaker 2>So those reserves for some insurance companies are going to

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<v Speaker 2>be tapped out. We're in a very precarious situation. So

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<v Speaker 2>I understand that in order to make insurance work the

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<v Speaker 2>way it does, we've got, you know, whoever lives in

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<v Speaker 2>that low area is going to absorb some of the

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<v Speaker 2>risk of someone who lives in a high risk area.

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<v Speaker 2>But the problem is is that people in California who

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<v Speaker 2>live on the ocean are not paying enough in premiums.

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<v Speaker 2>They're not pulling their weight. And I don't even know

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<v Speaker 2>what they're paying, but I guarantee it's not enough. Because

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<v Speaker 2>if state farm drop policies and palisades, because the State

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<v Speaker 2>of California would not let them raise rates to a

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<v Speaker 2>level that they thought they could make sure that they

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<v Speaker 2>would be able to pay their claims. Then you know

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<v Speaker 2>that they're underpaying the state. And don't get me wrong,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't begrudge a single person who has a beautiful

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<v Speaker 2>home in a high risk area because they've made the

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<v Speaker 2>choice to do that. But boy, there are responsibilities that

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<v Speaker 2>come along with that, and ridiculously expensive insurance is one

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<v Speaker 2>of them. And unfortunately, if you can't afford that, then

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<v Speaker 2>you can't afford to live on the beach. That's just

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<v Speaker 2>the way it is. So this is very frustrating, but

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<v Speaker 2>listen to this. A Harvard Business School study found that

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<v Speaker 2>expensive disasters in some parts of the country affect insurance

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<v Speaker 2>rates in others, as insurers bump up premiums for homeowners

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<v Speaker 2>in other areas to help cover big losses. It's spread

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<v Speaker 2>all over the country, and it spreads in a disproportionate

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<v Speaker 2>way where some people are bearing an overwhelmingly higher cost,

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<v Speaker 2>and the people bearing that cost often live in states

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<v Speaker 2>where insurers face looser rules about what they can charge.

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<v Speaker 2>Insurance regulations are set up to make sure companies' rates

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<v Speaker 2>reflect the cost of doing business in a particular state.

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<v Speaker 2>But in reality, the study found homeowners in places like

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<v Speaker 2>Vermont and Virginia, which have lighter regulations, can see increased

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<v Speaker 2>bills because what we're seeing here is California by refusing

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<v Speaker 2>to allow those rates to reflect what market value should

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<v Speaker 2>really be, they've now offloaded the responsibility for those higher

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<v Speaker 2>rates into people in states that have Lucy goosey insurance situations.

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<v Speaker 2>So California is gaming the system. And I, for one,

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<v Speaker 2>would love to see California have to stand on its

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<v Speaker 2>own two feet, but I think that these fires may

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<v Speaker 2>knock what's left of California's own two feet out from

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<v Speaker 2>under them, because this is just devastation. There's just mind blowing,

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely mind blowing. And now there's a new brush fire.

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<v Speaker 6>Great.

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<v Speaker 2>Great. This is the kind of situation that even if

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<v Speaker 2>your house doesn't burn down, people are going to want

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<v Speaker 2>to get out of California. And because the lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people are going to be displaced and perhaps displaced permanently,

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<v Speaker 2>there's going to be a lot of people need and

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<v Speaker 2>by I think we see another mass exodus out of

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<v Speaker 2>the state of California because of this, among other things.

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<v Speaker 2>The other part of this, and we're going to get

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<v Speaker 2>into this later because I don't want to make this

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<v Speaker 2>into a big political thing while people are still losing

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<v Speaker 2>their homes. But you have to wonder, at least I

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<v Speaker 2>have to wonder what this does to California politically, because

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<v Speaker 2>if the people of California look at their quote leadership

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<v Speaker 2>in this disaster and then take a minute to compare

436
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<v Speaker 2>it to Ron DeSantis's leadership in a similar situation, do

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<v Speaker 2>you think at that point they start to question their

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<v Speaker 2>political allegiances simply based on the efficacy of what they've

439
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<v Speaker 2>been voting for. I mean, it's a stretch, I bet.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying, perhaps this is the beginning of the

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<v Speaker 2>end for really poor, misguided governance that focuses on all

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<v Speaker 2>the wrong things while letting the right things crumble. And

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<v Speaker 2>I'm telling you we in Colorado we are poised to

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<v Speaker 2>be in the exact same situation because right now, instead

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<v Speaker 2>of making sure that our roads in the outlying areas

446
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<v Speaker 2>are good enough so emergency vehicles can pass, we are

447
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<v Speaker 2>redirecting all of our road money to mass transit that

448
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<v Speaker 2>no one is writing, and no one is really indicated

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<v Speaker 2>they want to ride. That's the kicker about that.

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<v Speaker 3>Isn't it.

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<v Speaker 2>We're spending money on things that don't matter. We're spending

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<v Speaker 2>money on offices and making healthcare affordable.

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<v Speaker 6>Or some crap like that.

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<v Speaker 2>We're spending money on more government employees. We're spending money

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<v Speaker 2>on everything. But what are we doing to mitigate our

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<v Speaker 2>own fire risk? What are we doing to work with

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<v Speaker 2>insurance companies to find out what what government can do

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<v Speaker 2>to help the citizens mitigate as much fire damage as

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<v Speaker 2>we can. Now, I know in my neighborhood, our community

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<v Speaker 2>is a firewise community. So our community, our HOA, we

461
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<v Speaker 2>have a very love our HOA. They're not in your busines,

462
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<v Speaker 2>but they're very helpful when it comes to mitigating fire risk.

463
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<v Speaker 2>I mean we need more of that, right, we need

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<v Speaker 2>more of Let's talk about how we make sure that

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<v Speaker 2>we don't have huge stands of dead trees that just

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<v Speaker 2>become an absolute firestorm with big wins. You know, that's

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<v Speaker 2>the kind of stuff we need to be focused on,

468
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<v Speaker 2>and yet we're not. You know, it's just our priorities

469
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<v Speaker 2>are askew everybody, And I'd love to think that these

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<v Speaker 2>kind of disasters, as horrible as they are, and I

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<v Speaker 2>would not wish this on anyone or any state. You'd

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<v Speaker 2>hope that we would look at this and say, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>what are we doing that's like that? What are we

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<v Speaker 2>doing that's not like that? That needs to be done

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<v Speaker 2>to make sure that we are not another version of that.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'd love to hear that conversation, but I

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<v Speaker 2>don't hear anybody else having it. Anyway, when we get back.

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<v Speaker 2>I got some good stuff on the blog today, really

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<v Speaker 2>good stuff, but kind of some ho hum news about

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<v Speaker 2>our housing market. I'll explain when we get back. This

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<v Speaker 2>is the kind of partisan that is not super helpful.

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<v Speaker 2>I realized I brought politics into it a few minutes ago,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm not doing it in a way that I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not dunking on anyone in this texture said, I've had

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<v Speaker 2>a really hard time feeling bad for California. They voted

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<v Speaker 2>for their leadership and have continued to vote for the

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<v Speaker 2>policies and that lead they have. I am very concerned

488
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<v Speaker 2>they will move here without learning. I get it. I

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<v Speaker 2>do get it, and I think it will be incumbent

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<v Speaker 2>on Coloraden's to remind them of why they had to

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<v Speaker 2>leave in the first place. But you have to understand

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<v Speaker 2>people are not maliciously choosing bad policy. They chose this

493
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<v Speaker 2>stuff because it sounded great, didn't It sounded super like

494
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<v Speaker 2>we're going to solve all the world's problems. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>make sure everybody's taken care of. We're gonna cure homelessness

496
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<v Speaker 2>while only exacerbating it. And you know, for people, a

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<v Speaker 2>vast majority of people, talk radio listeners are far more

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<v Speaker 2>knowledgeable than your average bear about what's going on. Most

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<v Speaker 2>people trip through life and they tune in and pay

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<v Speaker 2>attention right before election, or they may skim the news

501
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<v Speaker 2>every day, but they don't really pay attention. They don't

502
00:27:04.440 --> 00:27:07.440
<v Speaker 2>look to see the long game, right, They're just taking life.

503
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<v Speaker 2>They're taking history in little, tiny chunks as it comes.

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<v Speaker 9>So you can't.

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<v Speaker 2>Necessarily be mad at a majority of Americans, which I

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<v Speaker 2>would say a majority of Americans fall into that camp.

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<v Speaker 2>Some of my friends who are extremely successful, wonderful people,

508
00:27:21.400 --> 00:27:24.440
<v Speaker 2>wonderful family people, they don't watch the news at all,

509
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<v Speaker 2>not even a little bit, and their attitude is there's

510
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<v Speaker 2>nothing I can do to change it, So why do

511
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<v Speaker 2>I get sucked into it, involved and angry about it?

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, well, I guess the rest of us

513
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<v Speaker 2>will do the hard work for you. I don't know, Mandy,

514
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<v Speaker 2>are the fires in La bad luck, liberal policies, arson

515
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<v Speaker 2>or terrorism checking out our infrastructure in a major city.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no evidence of any sort of terrorism related situation.

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<v Speaker 2>I saw a guy who lives in California a few

518
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<v Speaker 2>days ago on a television show and he said, look,

519
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<v Speaker 2>everybody knows, including the insurance companies, that homeless people start

520
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<v Speaker 2>fires all the time. They start them in revenge, they

521
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<v Speaker 2>start them to cook something, they start them, and they

522
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<v Speaker 2>never put them out. So it is inevitable that La

523
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<v Speaker 2>would burn because of the number of homeless people. So

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<v Speaker 2>the implication there is that this is some homeless person's

525
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<v Speaker 2>fire that got out of control. They had arrested a

526
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<v Speaker 2>guy for arson, but they said they did not have

527
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<v Speaker 2>enough evidence, so we'll see what happens. My thinking is

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<v Speaker 2>it was arsin or a down power line, because, as

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<v Speaker 2>Adam Corolla said, this Texter just pointed out. Adam Corolla

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<v Speaker 2>said it well on his podcast yesterday. California is spending

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<v Speaker 2>ninety billion dollars on their high speed railed to nowhere

532
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<v Speaker 2>that will never get completed, rather than spending a fraction

533
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<v Speaker 2>of that undergrounding the nineteen thirties power lines in known

534
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<v Speaker 2>high risk areas. That is exactly what I was talking

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<v Speaker 2>about earlier. Stupid, idiotic, dumbass priorities, the same kind of

536
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<v Speaker 2>priorities we are showing here in Colorado, just throwing out there.

537
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<v Speaker 2>We're just throwing them out there. This Dexter rightly says Mandy.

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<v Speaker 2>The problem with California moving here and choosing bad policy.

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<v Speaker 2>We can't rely on Colorado to teach them differently. We're

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<v Speaker 2>more blue than them at this point. This is where

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<v Speaker 2>we need a functioning, thriving Republican party without you know,

542
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<v Speaker 2>divisive people at the top pushing people out of the

543
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<v Speaker 2>party who can explain why the policies that Republican candidates

544
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<v Speaker 2>want to pursue are better for the state than the

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<v Speaker 2>same old, same old they just left in California. And

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<v Speaker 2>I think if we get another big influx of Californians,

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<v Speaker 2>any political candidate that's running should do messaging specifically for

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<v Speaker 2>people who just moved here. I've always thought candidate should

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<v Speaker 2>do this and say, hey, look, you know what, welcome

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<v Speaker 2>to our beautiful state. Here's why we love it and

551
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<v Speaker 2>probably why you love it too.

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<v Speaker 7>Well.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's talk about what you left and why you left it,

554
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<v Speaker 2>and if you vote for my opponent, you are voting

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<v Speaker 2>for the same policies that destroyed the state you used

556
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<v Speaker 2>to love. I mean, I would go right at it, absolutely, Mandy.

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<v Speaker 2>I see so many smokers throwing cigarette butts out the

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<v Speaker 2>window of their car, you guys, this makes me crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>When I was a smoker, I had a water bottle

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<v Speaker 2>in my car, about a half full of water, and

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<v Speaker 2>that is where I put my cigarette butts. And when

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<v Speaker 2>it got a little bit full, I threw it away,

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<v Speaker 2>got a different water bottle, and so on and so forth.

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<v Speaker 2>Because if somebody burns my house down because somebody threw

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<v Speaker 2>a cigarette butt out the window, I promise you you

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<v Speaker 2>will never have a moment of rest until I die,

567
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<v Speaker 2>because I will make your life a living hell if

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<v Speaker 2>I could find out who it is. So I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>mean to go on about this. Now when we get back,

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<v Speaker 2>going in a completely different direction, you may have heard

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<v Speaker 2>that magic mushrooms psilocybin has now been decriminalized in Denver

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<v Speaker 2>and there will be a licensing program so people can

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<v Speaker 2>use psychedelics to assist in therapy. When we get back,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to talk to a therapist who already works

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<v Speaker 2>in psychedelics with ketamine and cannabis, and she is in

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<v Speaker 2>the process of becoming a licensed provider for psilocybin. We're

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<v Speaker 2>just going to find out what it's all about, because

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<v Speaker 2>I actually would.

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<v Speaker 9>Like to know.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll do that next on KOA.

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<v Speaker 1>The Mandy Connell Show is sponsored by Belle and Pollock

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<v Speaker 1>Accident and injury Lawyers.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's Mandy Connell.

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<v Speaker 7>And Connall.

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<v Speaker 9>On KOA.

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<v Speaker 2>Ninety one.

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<v Speaker 7>Amata say the nicety three Andy Connell Keith sad thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me try that again with my microphone on Welcome, Welcome,

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to the second hour of the show. I am

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<v Speaker 2>a trained professional. Do not attempt this at home. We

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<v Speaker 2>are entering a whole new world in Colorado. I actually

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<v Speaker 2>maybe an ancient world, but we'll get more to that

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<v Speaker 2>in a month moment. A whole new world in the

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<v Speaker 2>sense we have now decriminalized psilocybin, which is the active

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<v Speaker 2>ingredient in magic mushrooms, and we are going to allow

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<v Speaker 2>psilocybin or psychedelic assisted therapy in Colorado. And I would

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<v Speaker 2>like to know more about this for two reasons. Number one,

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<v Speaker 2>I learned a lot from the legalization of marijuana, which

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<v Speaker 2>started out as a medicinal thing and now has turned

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<v Speaker 2>into something much much different. So I want to find

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<v Speaker 2>out what's happening right now with psychedelic assisted therapy, why

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<v Speaker 2>it works, or if you know how it works, and

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<v Speaker 2>they're therefore we can begin to understand why this is

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<v Speaker 2>happening in the first place. And I brought someone on today.

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<v Speaker 2>Her name is Perad Meyer. She is with Beyond the

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<v Speaker 2>Mind Psychotherapy and she currently does psychedelicals assistant therapy that

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<v Speaker 2>uses cannabis and ketamine, and she is already in the

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<v Speaker 2>training process to use psilocybin parad Has anybody been licensed yet?

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<v Speaker 2>I know it just rolled out what ten days ago,

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<v Speaker 2>so no one's actually been licensed for that as of yet.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you know?

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<v Speaker 11>You know, my guess is not yet.

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<v Speaker 10>I think it's possible people have applied, but I don't

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<v Speaker 10>think anyone's been approved yet.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I would ask you first about your current practice

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<v Speaker 2>because you have two things I want to know about.

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<v Speaker 2>One of them is somatic body centered psychotherapy, and if

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<v Speaker 2>you could tell me what that is, because I fairly

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<v Speaker 2>recently learned about this and I think it sounds very interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>What is somatic body centered psychotherapy?

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<v Speaker 10>Great question, So somatic therapy, what that means is we

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<v Speaker 10>are coming with both a philosophy and you know, a

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<v Speaker 10>protocol or a strategy to work on trauma generally, to

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<v Speaker 10>work on trauma.

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<v Speaker 11>Through the body rather than through our thoughts or through

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<v Speaker 11>our behaviors.

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<v Speaker 10>And so what that might look like is tracking our

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<v Speaker 10>body and in really particular ways, capturing let's say a

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<v Speaker 10>trigger or a symptom and working with it.

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<v Speaker 11>Such that we can resolve it in the body.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure I understood that to be perfectly like

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<v Speaker 2>or what does that look like in practice? Can you

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<v Speaker 2>give me a.

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<v Speaker 10>Trauma specific What that looks like is when a trauma happens,

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<v Speaker 10>when somebody has a bad experience, what happens is we

636
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<v Speaker 10>get stuck. So our nervous system specifically will kind of

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<v Speaker 10>get stuck, let's say, in a freeze response, and instead

638
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<v Speaker 10>of kind of shaking it off and resolving it, what

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<v Speaker 10>happens is we create patterns around an understanding that the

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<v Speaker 10>world isn't safe in our body. And then we might

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<v Speaker 10>create thoughts about that, or we might have behaviors around that,

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<v Speaker 10>but essentially our body believes we're no longer safe. And

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<v Speaker 10>for people who end up with PTSD or complex PTSD

644
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<v Speaker 10>or kind of prolonged trauma responses, their bodies don't know

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<v Speaker 10>that they're safe anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually this, this is gonna This probably sounds like

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<v Speaker 2>ho come to a lot of people, Okay, but I

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<v Speaker 2>am a huge propone of recognizing the power that our

649
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<v Speaker 2>brain has over our body. That is a significant connection.

650
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<v Speaker 2>I struggled with fibromyalgia for two years before I was diagnosed,

651
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<v Speaker 2>and then once I started treating it like a stress

652
00:35:11.599 --> 00:35:15.000
<v Speaker 2>related illness, I went from being in horrible pain to

653
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<v Speaker 2>having no pain in like four days. So the mind

654
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<v Speaker 2>body connection. Don't scoff at it, you guys. And the

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<v Speaker 2>reason I asked about somatic therapy is because I recently

656
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<v Speaker 2>talked to several people with persistent chronic PTS who said

657
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<v Speaker 2>somatic therapy is the thing that cured them and gave

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<v Speaker 2>them their lives back. And I had really never heard

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<v Speaker 2>of it. But let me talk today. I know we

660
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<v Speaker 2>were talking about psychedelic assistant therapy. Tell me about what

661
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<v Speaker 2>you're doing currently with ketamine and cannabis and how that

662
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<v Speaker 2>helps or assists in psychotherapy that we couldn't just get

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<v Speaker 2>through regular talk therapy.

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<v Speaker 11>Great question.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, so ketamine, I probably will focus on that because

666
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<v Speaker 10>it's more within the realm of kind of psychedelic assistant psychotherapy.

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<v Speaker 10>It the way that I see it, in the way

668
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<v Speaker 10>that a lot of people see it, is that it

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<v Speaker 10>is a tool that is an adjunct to the therapy

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<v Speaker 10>somebody's already doing and it so ketamine is not a psychedelic, right.

671
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<v Speaker 10>Ketamine is actually dissociative anesthetic, but it has llucinogenic properties,

672
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<v Speaker 10>and we're what we're learning with ketamine and with psychedelics

673
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<v Speaker 10>in general, is that they have the potential to change

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<v Speaker 10>our brains. Right, and this is really a key critical factor.

675
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<v Speaker 10>And so we're looking at two things. When we add

676
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<v Speaker 10>something like ketamine to a therapy process, we're looking at

677
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<v Speaker 10>changes in the brain, and then we're also looking at

678
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<v Speaker 10>changes in the way that we perceive ourselves. Our past are, symptoms,

679
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<v Speaker 10>are issues, whatever we're working on from a different perspective,

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<v Speaker 10>and having an experience which helps us see that so

681
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<v Speaker 10>versus thinking our way through a problem.

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<v Speaker 2>If you ingest ketamine or even psilocybin, you may have

683
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<v Speaker 2>an alternate experience. But as far as changing your brain,

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<v Speaker 2>I was reading a couple studies, because there's not that

685
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<v Speaker 2>much research on this as of right now, but there

686
00:37:08.239 --> 00:37:12.559
<v Speaker 2>were a couple studies that showed that the changes, even

687
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<v Speaker 2>if the super positive changes, if they're not accompanied by

688
00:37:16.440 --> 00:37:22.000
<v Speaker 2>ongoing therapy or e MDR or some other form of therapy,

689
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<v Speaker 2>you tend to revert back to where you were in

690
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<v Speaker 2>the first place. So it's not a permanent change.

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<v Speaker 11>Is it correct?

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, So it's this is why we're looking at adding

693
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<v Speaker 10>it to therapy. So there's so many cool things that

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<v Speaker 10>happen in the brain with psychedelics. One of the things

695
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<v Speaker 10>that happens is that with different psychedelic septances kind of

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<v Speaker 10>mean included what the neuroscientists are saying are many things.

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<v Speaker 11>Two of the things I'm thinking of this moment, is it.

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<v Speaker 10>One these psychedelics actually helped clean out our brains. They

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<v Speaker 10>clean out like the intracellular mintrix, right, So the connectivity

700
00:37:59.480 --> 00:38:02.480
<v Speaker 10>area in our brains, so that we can remake more

701
00:38:02.559 --> 00:38:06.159
<v Speaker 10>new connections, so that in and of itself starts to

702
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<v Speaker 10>help us create changes in our lives that maybe thinking

703
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<v Speaker 10>or talking through like wasn't quite enough. Right, But if

704
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<v Speaker 10>we don't then integrate those sessions, the things that we

705
00:38:16.400 --> 00:38:19.519
<v Speaker 10>learned about ourselves in let's say, academy in session, and

706
00:38:20.360 --> 00:38:23.039
<v Speaker 10>activate them in our life, right, kind of move them forward,

707
00:38:23.159 --> 00:38:25.320
<v Speaker 10>whether that's a behavior or a way of being, or

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<v Speaker 10>just kind of an understanding about ourselves.

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<v Speaker 11>We're going to revert back. You know, there's some thinking around.

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<v Speaker 10>You know, what I would say is the coolest thing

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<v Speaker 10>about the neuroscience that's coming out now is this idea

712
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<v Speaker 10>of critical periods, and a critical period is potential for

713
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<v Speaker 10>new learning in our brains.

714
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<v Speaker 11>That historically we've thought ends around puberty.

715
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<v Speaker 10>But we're finding with psychedelics is that different substances can

716
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<v Speaker 10>reopen critical periods, meaning that we can relearn or we

717
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<v Speaker 10>can learn new information for the first time dults. And

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<v Speaker 10>so that's another reason that we want to keep integration

719
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<v Speaker 10>moving forward after a psychedelic experience of therapy is that

720
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<v Speaker 10>we have potential, right whether it's days or weeks, to

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<v Speaker 10>implement something new in our brands and then in our lives.

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<v Speaker 2>Why is this different than just regular psychotherapy? Is it

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<v Speaker 2>for all the reasons you just said that the actual

724
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<v Speaker 2>changes to the brain. Is this appropriate for people that

725
00:39:29.360 --> 00:39:32.239
<v Speaker 2>either struggle to open up in therapy? I mean, how

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<v Speaker 2>I guess. I guess there's a lot of people out

727
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<v Speaker 2>there who say we should never legalize psychedelics in any way.

728
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<v Speaker 2>Shape or form. But obviously you believe that they have

729
00:39:41.360 --> 00:39:45.159
<v Speaker 2>a useful usefulness in certain situations. What would those situations

730
00:39:45.280 --> 00:39:47.880
<v Speaker 2>be in your mind? Who would you recommend for this therapy?

731
00:39:48.039 --> 00:39:51.119
<v Speaker 2>Who would you say this is not right for great?

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, So the way that I think about, like why

733
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<v Speaker 10>would I choose a client or why would somebody benefit

734
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<v Speaker 10>from this type of therapy? So psychedelics they accelerate the

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<v Speaker 10>work that somebody is already doing. That's the way that

736
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<v Speaker 10>I see it in my practice. And for somebody, let's

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<v Speaker 10>say that is suffering from trauma. That is my specialty

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<v Speaker 10>and what I work with the most will used as

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<v Speaker 10>an example. They might be suffering day in and day out, right,

740
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<v Speaker 10>and they're doing the therapy, they're showing up every week.

741
00:40:19.519 --> 00:40:21.800
<v Speaker 10>We're working with all of these different really well known

742
00:40:21.880 --> 00:40:26.880
<v Speaker 10>strategies to create healing, and it's just slow. And so

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<v Speaker 10>psychedelics have the potential to accelerate that process. They also,

744
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<v Speaker 10>as you said, have the potential to help increase safety

745
00:40:34.639 --> 00:40:36.360
<v Speaker 10>in the room. They kind of take down our guard

746
00:40:36.400 --> 00:40:39.079
<v Speaker 10>a little bit and so we can get deeper faster.

747
00:40:39.559 --> 00:40:39.679
<v Speaker 9>Ok.

748
00:40:39.800 --> 00:40:42.079
<v Speaker 10>FROs and comes to that of course, right, because sometimes

749
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<v Speaker 10>that's too much for people, right, so we want to

750
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<v Speaker 10>make sure it's safe for them to do at that time.

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<v Speaker 10>The other thing is that there is this way in

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<v Speaker 10>which we know, right we come into therapy for trauma,

753
00:40:53.760 --> 00:40:55.880
<v Speaker 10>we know we're working on the trauma, we also have

754
00:40:55.960 --> 00:40:58.039
<v Speaker 10>all these mechanisms to avoid it, right, and so we

755
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<v Speaker 10>spend all this time trying to like, I want to

756
00:41:00.159 --> 00:41:04.320
<v Speaker 10>work on this, but actually that's too scary, and psychedelics

757
00:41:04.360 --> 00:41:07.239
<v Speaker 10>can really help us bypass that piece so that we

758
00:41:07.280 --> 00:41:08.239
<v Speaker 10>can just get to the point.

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<v Speaker 2>It strips away the consciousness that prevents you from wanting

760
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<v Speaker 2>to deal with whatever it is that's right.

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<v Speaker 10>So another kind of brain terminology, we utilize this idea

762
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<v Speaker 10>of kind of bottom up processing versus top down. So

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<v Speaker 10>if we are thinking we're using our prefrontal cortexes to process,

764
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<v Speaker 10>we can also use our prefrontal cortexis to avoid versus

765
00:41:30.719 --> 00:41:32.960
<v Speaker 10>if we're letting things come up naturally and getting out

766
00:41:33.000 --> 00:41:35.320
<v Speaker 10>of our own way, we can actually get to the

767
00:41:35.400 --> 00:41:37.800
<v Speaker 10>pieces of the work we need to get to more efficiently.

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<v Speaker 2>Got a lot of questions from our text line. For

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<v Speaker 2>parad Meyers, she is with Beyond the Mind psychotherapy. She

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<v Speaker 2>is already doing psychedelic assistant psychotherapy. She uses cannabis and

771
00:41:47.639 --> 00:41:51.000
<v Speaker 2>ketamine in her practice, and we'll be adding psilocybin when

772
00:41:51.079 --> 00:41:53.760
<v Speaker 2>she's through the process of getting her training and her

773
00:41:53.800 --> 00:41:58.280
<v Speaker 2>licensing here in Colorado. But several questions, Mandy, are your

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00:41:58.400 --> 00:42:01.960
<v Speaker 2>guest somatic therapy are all that experiences trauma?

775
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<v Speaker 12>HM?

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<v Speaker 2>Not necessarily. I have the beholder, and I mean that

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<v Speaker 2>not flippantly. I think some people are deeply affected by

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<v Speaker 2>some things that other people manage to sort of move past.

779
00:42:17.519 --> 00:42:20.880
<v Speaker 2>I really that feels like a very individualized question, doesn't it.

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<v Speaker 11>That's right.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, So I mean the way we think about trauma

782
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<v Speaker 10>is it's not the event, it's the way it impacts us.

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<v Speaker 11>Right, So it's going to be different for everybody.

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<v Speaker 3>This one.

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<v Speaker 2>Somebody asked, what about microdosing? And people are microdosing now

786
00:42:35.159 --> 00:42:38.719
<v Speaker 2>for anxiety, But I mean, is that's not what we're

787
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<v Speaker 2>talking about in terms of what you're doing. That's a

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00:42:41.199 --> 00:42:44.440
<v Speaker 2>completely different issue, and I'm guessing as a therapist you

789
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<v Speaker 2>may not be a super fan of that for people

790
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<v Speaker 2>just microducing their way through life.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, it's a really good question, and it's something that's

792
00:42:50.920 --> 00:42:53.559
<v Speaker 10>really a hot topic in Colorado. So microdosing is the

793
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<v Speaker 10>idea of taking let's say, psilocybin and taking it a

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<v Speaker 10>certain you know, protocol, couple days in, a couple of

795
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<v Speaker 10>days off, but non perceptual. You're not seeing anything, you're

796
00:43:04.199 --> 00:43:06.800
<v Speaker 10>not feeling anything. It's just in your system, right. It's

797
00:43:06.800 --> 00:43:11.000
<v Speaker 10>almost like taking a supplement or a vitamin versus you know,

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<v Speaker 10>psychedelic dosing or the really big experiences people think of

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<v Speaker 10>all the time.

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<v Speaker 11>And then in therapy we're actually aiming for something in between.

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<v Speaker 10>And so often people will call it like a psycholytic dose,

802
00:43:23.800 --> 00:43:27.599
<v Speaker 10>which means you feel the impact of let's say the psilocybin.

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00:43:28.920 --> 00:43:30.000
<v Speaker 11>You know you're high on it.

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00:43:30.800 --> 00:43:35.199
<v Speaker 10>But you can also engage with a therapist in therapy

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<v Speaker 10>and do the therapeutic process.

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<v Speaker 12>You're not going to see my Work's.

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<v Speaker 2>Like you're in a dead show looking at your hand

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<v Speaker 2>for eight hours. I mean, that's not what you're after

809
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<v Speaker 2>here this way?

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<v Speaker 7>Do you know?

811
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<v Speaker 3>It might be?

812
00:43:45.159 --> 00:43:46.079
<v Speaker 2>But not in my office.

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<v Speaker 3>Figure, Hi, I've been.

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<v Speaker 2>Doing therapy for over ten years for one specific issue.

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<v Speaker 2>It has never helped. I am open to trying this.

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<v Speaker 2>That sounds like the kind of person that it might benefit.

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<v Speaker 10>That's right, you know, when you ask this question before

818
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<v Speaker 10>the really cool thing that's happening right now is that

819
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<v Speaker 10>therapy is no longer just for people who are quote

820
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<v Speaker 10>unquote sick or mentally ill.

821
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<v Speaker 11>And so there's this huge range.

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<v Speaker 7>Right.

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<v Speaker 10>So for most people that I get in my practice

824
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<v Speaker 10>have that story, They've been doing talk therapy for ten years,

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<v Speaker 10>it hasn't worked.

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<v Speaker 11>They come in, we try something different, and it can

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<v Speaker 11>be really profound.

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<v Speaker 10>Other end of that spectrum is like, you don't really

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<v Speaker 10>have to have a huge problem in your life to

830
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<v Speaker 10>benefit from this kind of therapy.

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<v Speaker 13>Right.

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<v Speaker 11>You might come in here and say, I just want to,

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<v Speaker 11>like I.

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<v Speaker 10>Don't know, feel more authentic, or engage with my partner

835
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<v Speaker 10>in a deeper way, right, or engage with nature in

836
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<v Speaker 10>a different way.

837
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<v Speaker 4>Right.

838
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<v Speaker 11>So this is really kind of pushing the edge of

839
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<v Speaker 11>what therapy can mean.

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<v Speaker 10>You know, technically speaking, when we look at the research,

841
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<v Speaker 10>we're often looking at things like treatment resistant depression or PTSD.

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<v Speaker 11>Those are the biggies and the research you know, OCD

843
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<v Speaker 11>is starting to show up.

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<v Speaker 2>But what is are there mental health disorders that are

845
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<v Speaker 2>that this is not appropriate for me?

846
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<v Speaker 3>Sure?

847
00:45:02.000 --> 00:45:05.960
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, I mean you know, research might show us differently

848
00:45:06.079 --> 00:45:09.480
<v Speaker 10>later on as we progress, but currently, you know, if

849
00:45:09.519 --> 00:45:13.440
<v Speaker 10>you have let's say schizophrenia, Probably that's not going to

850
00:45:13.480 --> 00:45:15.920
<v Speaker 10>be a good fit. Certain types of bipolar might not

851
00:45:16.039 --> 00:45:16.800
<v Speaker 10>be a great fit.

852
00:45:18.119 --> 00:45:19.320
<v Speaker 11>But we're the most.

853
00:45:19.159 --> 00:45:24.320
<v Speaker 10>Part, you know, medications and medical history aside. It's it's

854
00:45:24.360 --> 00:45:26.360
<v Speaker 10>got a lot of potential with a lot of different conditions.

855
00:45:26.360 --> 00:45:27.639
<v Speaker 11>And that's one of the exciting things.

856
00:45:27.719 --> 00:45:29.599
<v Speaker 2>I was going to ask you about medications next. If

857
00:45:29.639 --> 00:45:31.920
<v Speaker 2>you have someone who's already on an antidepressant or some

858
00:45:32.039 --> 00:45:35.480
<v Speaker 2>other form of medication, is there a concern about that contraindicating.

859
00:45:36.800 --> 00:45:38.920
<v Speaker 10>Yes, So one of the things we're looking at kind

860
00:45:38.960 --> 00:45:43.079
<v Speaker 10>of statewide is having medical providers, you know, starting part

861
00:45:43.119 --> 00:45:45.199
<v Speaker 10>of that intake process to make sure that this is safe.

862
00:45:45.239 --> 00:45:46.920
<v Speaker 10>But the biggies are going to be any kind of

863
00:45:46.960 --> 00:45:51.199
<v Speaker 10>medication that has to do with serotonin could potentially be problematic.

864
00:45:51.280 --> 00:45:53.199
<v Speaker 10>Now that's different with ketamine, but for kind of the

865
00:45:53.239 --> 00:45:59.000
<v Speaker 10>classic psilocybin psychedelics, antidepressants don't generally go hand in hand.

866
00:46:00.920 --> 00:46:03.679
<v Speaker 2>When you are what is the research that we do

867
00:46:03.880 --> 00:46:06.800
<v Speaker 2>have and I know there's not uh, I mean newer

868
00:46:06.880 --> 00:46:09.000
<v Speaker 2>research I don't know about, but what does the research

869
00:46:09.079 --> 00:46:11.639
<v Speaker 2>say so far? What do you see that gives you

870
00:46:11.760 --> 00:46:12.920
<v Speaker 2>hope that this is the right way to go.

871
00:46:14.320 --> 00:46:17.960
<v Speaker 10>You know, so neuroscience is great, obviously, I'm a proponent

872
00:46:18.039 --> 00:46:20.000
<v Speaker 10>of that. There's a there's a ton of good stuff

873
00:46:20.000 --> 00:46:22.199
<v Speaker 10>out there. Johns Hopkins is a great place to start.

874
00:46:23.199 --> 00:46:26.039
<v Speaker 10>They've done a lot on psilocybin. There's some great research

875
00:46:26.079 --> 00:46:32.960
<v Speaker 10>out in California about neuroscience. You know, things are pointing

876
00:46:33.119 --> 00:46:38.559
<v Speaker 10>to psychedelics, psilocybin, even you know, ketamine et cetera. Are

877
00:46:40.719 --> 00:46:43.800
<v Speaker 10>like they're opening new pathways to healing, new pathways to like,

878
00:46:43.880 --> 00:46:45.519
<v Speaker 10>how can we do this differently?

879
00:46:46.199 --> 00:46:49.000
<v Speaker 11>And for the most part we are seeing success, sometimes

880
00:46:49.119 --> 00:46:49.880
<v Speaker 11>great success.

881
00:46:51.320 --> 00:46:51.480
<v Speaker 14>You know.

882
00:46:51.719 --> 00:46:53.800
<v Speaker 10>The critique I would have is that research is not

883
00:46:53.920 --> 00:46:58.199
<v Speaker 10>real life, right, and things look different in the therapy room.

884
00:46:58.559 --> 00:47:01.320
<v Speaker 10>So you know, if you're if you're hearing like do

885
00:47:01.480 --> 00:47:03.760
<v Speaker 10>three sessions and you're going to heal your PTSD, I

886
00:47:03.800 --> 00:47:06.599
<v Speaker 10>would argue, that's not exactly how it works outside the lab.

887
00:47:07.239 --> 00:47:10.639
<v Speaker 11>But it is very, very very promising.

888
00:47:11.559 --> 00:47:13.519
<v Speaker 2>Somebody just said this, and I'll give you a chance

889
00:47:13.599 --> 00:47:15.480
<v Speaker 2>to clarify this. You mean, I don't have to have

890
00:47:15.519 --> 00:47:18.039
<v Speaker 2>a mental disorder to come trip in your office? Sign

891
00:47:18.159 --> 00:47:21.960
<v Speaker 2>me up. Do you have a process to decide who

892
00:47:22.440 --> 00:47:24.000
<v Speaker 2>becomes a patient and who does not?

893
00:47:25.039 --> 00:47:25.519
<v Speaker 11>Great question?

894
00:47:25.639 --> 00:47:28.320
<v Speaker 10>It depends where you go, right. So in my office,

895
00:47:28.400 --> 00:47:30.840
<v Speaker 10>I do not accept insurance. I don't have to justify

896
00:47:31.599 --> 00:47:34.320
<v Speaker 10>any kind of diagnosis for care.

897
00:47:34.440 --> 00:47:37.800
<v Speaker 11>So yeah, they could come on in. That would be okay.

898
00:47:38.920 --> 00:47:41.639
<v Speaker 10>You know, personally I tend to prioritize people that are

899
00:47:41.679 --> 00:47:44.840
<v Speaker 10>suffering because you know they need it a little bit sooner.

900
00:47:44.920 --> 00:47:46.880
<v Speaker 10>But the truth is is I have a big range

901
00:47:46.880 --> 00:47:49.679
<v Speaker 10>of both who come in for ketamine currently.

902
00:47:49.960 --> 00:47:52.239
<v Speaker 2>One last question or one last statement, and this is

903
00:47:52.320 --> 00:47:53.800
<v Speaker 2>kind of one of the things that I don't think

904
00:47:53.920 --> 00:47:55.760
<v Speaker 2>I need you to address, but one of the concerns

905
00:47:55.760 --> 00:47:58.239
<v Speaker 2>a lot of people, including me, have mandy. I know

906
00:47:58.320 --> 00:48:00.800
<v Speaker 2>a couple of people who are micro dosing for nights

907
00:48:00.880 --> 00:48:03.199
<v Speaker 2>on the town, so get ready for the abuse. By

908
00:48:03.280 --> 00:48:05.440
<v Speaker 2>the way, they get the doses from a friend with

909
00:48:05.519 --> 00:48:08.159
<v Speaker 2>a prescription. I hate to see the abuse, and I

910
00:48:08.280 --> 00:48:10.920
<v Speaker 2>want to talk to you about that aspect, because in

911
00:48:11.039 --> 00:48:13.039
<v Speaker 2>your office you can weed out someone who would be

912
00:48:14.400 --> 00:48:16.880
<v Speaker 2>a bad candidate. I mean, but we just saw a

913
00:48:16.960 --> 00:48:19.840
<v Speaker 2>teenager in Bolder climb a crane when he was you know,

914
00:48:19.960 --> 00:48:24.440
<v Speaker 2>tripping on mushrooms and accidentally kill himself. So what are

915
00:48:24.480 --> 00:48:27.719
<v Speaker 2>your thoughts on that? Knowing you use it therapeutically that

916
00:48:27.760 --> 00:48:29.559
<v Speaker 2>you're going to be using it therapeutically, Do you have

917
00:48:29.760 --> 00:48:34.639
<v Speaker 2>thoughts on how to either manage that or tamp down

918
00:48:34.679 --> 00:48:39.079
<v Speaker 2>people's fears of that becoming a bigger problem? Sure? Yeah.

919
00:48:39.079 --> 00:48:41.039
<v Speaker 10>I mean, if we're looking at addiction in general and

920
00:48:41.119 --> 00:48:45.000
<v Speaker 10>we just simmer it down to potential for addiction, generally speaking,

921
00:48:45.039 --> 00:48:47.639
<v Speaker 10>at least the classic psychedelics don't have a whole lot

922
00:48:47.719 --> 00:48:51.000
<v Speaker 10>of potential for addiction. Keta mean's a different story. Ketamine,

923
00:48:51.239 --> 00:48:54.480
<v Speaker 10>it's kind of in the middle, right, you know, it

924
00:48:55.079 --> 00:48:58.079
<v Speaker 10>has potential for addiction. Most people that are using ketamine

925
00:48:59.000 --> 00:49:02.599
<v Speaker 10>recreationally and then develop a problem with it are using it,

926
00:49:02.840 --> 00:49:07.039
<v Speaker 10>let's say, you know, often snorting it.

927
00:49:07.199 --> 00:49:09.719
<v Speaker 11>That's very different than what we would do in therapy. Right,

928
00:49:09.800 --> 00:49:13.039
<v Speaker 11>in therapy you have like a prescribed lozenge or something

929
00:49:13.159 --> 00:49:13.320
<v Speaker 11>like that.

930
00:49:16.840 --> 00:49:21.400
<v Speaker 10>You know, we see the outliers here, and often the

931
00:49:21.519 --> 00:49:26.599
<v Speaker 10>outliers are people who are not considering who they are,

932
00:49:26.800 --> 00:49:30.239
<v Speaker 10>how they're doing, how stable or unstable they are, what

933
00:49:30.400 --> 00:49:35.400
<v Speaker 10>other substances they're taking, right, and maybe like don't carefully

934
00:49:35.559 --> 00:49:39.840
<v Speaker 10>take their psychedelics and hurt themselves, right, But those are

935
00:49:39.840 --> 00:49:40.840
<v Speaker 10>the outlier stories.

936
00:49:41.280 --> 00:49:45.599
<v Speaker 2>Paradmi are fascinating conversation, and we chatted about this off

937
00:49:45.679 --> 00:49:47.920
<v Speaker 2>the air before you came on. But when will you

938
00:49:48.079 --> 00:49:50.559
<v Speaker 2>be what do you think roughly you'll be up and

939
00:49:50.639 --> 00:49:52.880
<v Speaker 2>running through the program, through the training with the state

940
00:49:52.880 --> 00:49:53.679
<v Speaker 2>and all of that stuff.

941
00:49:54.599 --> 00:49:58.000
<v Speaker 10>Sure, So there's a handful of trainings for providers and

942
00:49:59.199 --> 00:50:01.400
<v Speaker 10>in Colorado, WI, what we're going to have is facilitators

943
00:50:01.480 --> 00:50:03.079
<v Speaker 10>versus clinical facilitators.

944
00:50:03.079 --> 00:50:05.199
<v Speaker 11>So I'm in a clinical facilitating program.

945
00:50:05.000 --> 00:50:07.719
<v Speaker 10>In Colorado that ends in May, and then I think

946
00:50:07.760 --> 00:50:12.159
<v Speaker 10>it's maybe fifty hours of supervision and a number of

947
00:50:12.239 --> 00:50:14.320
<v Speaker 10>hours of experience prior to getting licensed.

948
00:50:14.360 --> 00:50:16.880
<v Speaker 11>But I do know, yeah, probably in the next year.

949
00:50:17.199 --> 00:50:18.599
<v Speaker 2>I have a lot of people on the text line

950
00:50:18.599 --> 00:50:23.000
<v Speaker 2>that are asking very specific questions about specific conditions. So

951
00:50:23.119 --> 00:50:24.880
<v Speaker 2>what I'm going to do, because we're out of time,

952
00:50:25.400 --> 00:50:27.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to I put a link to doctor Myer's

953
00:50:28.960 --> 00:50:31.760
<v Speaker 2>website so people can email you, they can contact you.

954
00:50:32.119 --> 00:50:35.159
<v Speaker 2>If you have specific conditions, Please just reach out to

955
00:50:35.280 --> 00:50:39.559
<v Speaker 2>her because I'm sure that every situation she's going to

956
00:50:39.599 --> 00:50:41.719
<v Speaker 2>have follow up questions that are going to need to

957
00:50:41.719 --> 00:50:42.199
<v Speaker 2>be answered.

958
00:50:42.599 --> 00:50:44.119
<v Speaker 9>But very very.

959
00:50:44.039 --> 00:50:47.039
<v Speaker 2>Interesting parad Thank you so much for coming on and

960
00:50:47.159 --> 00:50:49.800
<v Speaker 2>talking about this, and perhaps we'll have you on again

961
00:50:50.360 --> 00:50:52.760
<v Speaker 2>in seven or eight months to kind of check in

962
00:50:52.920 --> 00:50:56.599
<v Speaker 2>to see how the next stage is going and if

963
00:50:56.639 --> 00:50:59.440
<v Speaker 2>you're still happy with the developments here in Colorado. But

964
00:50:59.440 --> 00:51:01.119
<v Speaker 2>I very much appreciate your time today.

965
00:51:01.880 --> 00:51:03.119
<v Speaker 11>Awesome, Thank you so much. Mandy.

966
00:51:03.199 --> 00:51:06.440
<v Speaker 2>All right, that is perad Meyer, and again you can

967
00:51:06.559 --> 00:51:11.440
<v Speaker 2>find her information at her website Beyond the Mind Psychotherapy,

968
00:51:12.119 --> 00:51:14.320
<v Speaker 2>and she will have be happy to answer all of

969
00:51:14.679 --> 00:51:19.079
<v Speaker 2>your questions. So really interesting stuff, very very interesting stuff.

970
00:51:19.800 --> 00:51:22.320
<v Speaker 2>And several of you are weighing in with your tripping

971
00:51:22.440 --> 00:51:27.159
<v Speaker 2>stories from back in the day, and yeah, I just

972
00:51:27.440 --> 00:51:31.960
<v Speaker 2>reach out if you have questions, So there you go.

973
00:51:32.199 --> 00:51:35.039
<v Speaker 2>It's going to be a whole new world in Colorado.

974
00:51:35.159 --> 00:51:39.800
<v Speaker 2>And as I said before and then sixty four really

975
00:51:40.000 --> 00:51:44.119
<v Speaker 2>should have told everyone, really opened everyone's eyes to how

976
00:51:44.320 --> 00:51:48.320
<v Speaker 2>bad things can get. So I am nervous. I am

977
00:51:48.599 --> 00:51:50.599
<v Speaker 2>not altogether. I don't know if this has been a

978
00:51:50.639 --> 00:51:53.159
<v Speaker 2>real struggle for me because I have always considered myself

979
00:51:53.199 --> 00:51:56.480
<v Speaker 2>a small l libertarian, and I'm like, look, adults should

980
00:51:56.480 --> 00:51:58.559
<v Speaker 2>be able to do whatever they want to do, but

981
00:51:58.639 --> 00:52:02.119
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to be responsible for whatever their poor

982
00:52:02.280 --> 00:52:04.760
<v Speaker 2>choices are. Right, if you spend all your money on

983
00:52:04.800 --> 00:52:06.519
<v Speaker 2>drugs and alcohol. I don't want to give you mine

984
00:52:07.199 --> 00:52:10.760
<v Speaker 2>in the form of tax dollars, but it's just gotten

985
00:52:10.840 --> 00:52:15.199
<v Speaker 2>so it has made everyone else's lives so miserable that

986
00:52:15.320 --> 00:52:18.400
<v Speaker 2>it has almost beaten the small libertarian out of me.

987
00:52:18.679 --> 00:52:21.400
<v Speaker 2>This textor said, Mandy, you can still be a libertarian

988
00:52:21.519 --> 00:52:24.480
<v Speaker 2>and be against this stuff because it's not administered or

989
00:52:24.599 --> 00:52:27.519
<v Speaker 2>enforced properly. Tell me if you disagree. But my loose

990
00:52:27.599 --> 00:52:30.800
<v Speaker 2>definition of libertarian is you do. You just don't make

991
00:52:30.880 --> 00:52:33.079
<v Speaker 2>me pay for it. The marijuana things should have been

992
00:52:33.159 --> 00:52:36.960
<v Speaker 2>up behind closed doors, but we allowed public use and intoxication.

993
00:52:37.559 --> 00:52:39.920
<v Speaker 2>That's the problem. Get high all you want, but keep

994
00:52:39.960 --> 00:52:42.079
<v Speaker 2>it on your own private property, and behind the wheel

995
00:52:42.280 --> 00:52:46.440
<v Speaker 2>is not included in private property. I agree wholeheartedly. So

996
00:52:46.519 --> 00:52:51.880
<v Speaker 2>maybe my issue isn't necessarily about legalization, but about the

997
00:52:51.960 --> 00:52:55.440
<v Speaker 2>response to all of the other quality of life crimes

998
00:52:55.480 --> 00:52:59.280
<v Speaker 2>that now negatively affect me in the Denver metro area

999
00:53:00.000 --> 00:53:02.920
<v Speaker 2>because of someone else's choices. Because, as you know, libertarians

1000
00:53:03.000 --> 00:53:06.199
<v Speaker 2>love to say your right to punch stops at my nose.

1001
00:53:07.519 --> 00:53:12.199
<v Speaker 2>So you're right, Texter, you're right. Just wish they'd do

1002
00:53:12.280 --> 00:53:14.559
<v Speaker 2>a better job at it. Speaking of doing a better

1003
00:53:14.679 --> 00:53:18.119
<v Speaker 2>job at it, Governor of Polis had his State of

1004
00:53:18.159 --> 00:53:21.119
<v Speaker 2>the State address yesterday and there was a lot of

1005
00:53:21.159 --> 00:53:24.039
<v Speaker 2>stuff in it, and you know, we're gonna make housing

1006
00:53:24.079 --> 00:53:24.960
<v Speaker 2>affordably again.

1007
00:53:25.280 --> 00:53:25.519
<v Speaker 7>Yay.

1008
00:53:27.320 --> 00:53:29.079
<v Speaker 2>One of the surprising things that he said was that

1009
00:53:29.159 --> 00:53:33.000
<v Speaker 2>he supported Donald Trump coming to Colorado to deport illegal

1010
00:53:33.079 --> 00:53:37.519
<v Speaker 2>immigrants who had committed crimes. However, he said he drew

1011
00:53:37.599 --> 00:53:42.239
<v Speaker 2>the line at just deporting people who were law abiding citizens. That,

1012
00:53:42.519 --> 00:53:45.280
<v Speaker 2>my friends, is what you do when you're running for president.

1013
00:53:46.559 --> 00:53:48.639
<v Speaker 2>You don't want to pick a fight with Trump because

1014
00:53:48.679 --> 00:53:52.079
<v Speaker 2>Gavin Newsom already has. Gavin Newsom one has to wonder

1015
00:53:52.159 --> 00:53:55.280
<v Speaker 2>if his political future is over, at least for the

1016
00:53:55.400 --> 00:53:59.559
<v Speaker 2>next ten years, over what's going on right now in California,

1017
00:54:00.159 --> 00:54:02.519
<v Speaker 2>and if he ends up running against someone like Ron

1018
00:54:02.599 --> 00:54:06.920
<v Speaker 2>de Santis, who has handled emergency after emergency like a

1019
00:54:07.079 --> 00:54:11.320
<v Speaker 2>freakin' boss, he's done for politically when it comes to

1020
00:54:11.440 --> 00:54:14.519
<v Speaker 2>running for president. But Jared Polis, I'm telling you, if

1021
00:54:14.559 --> 00:54:16.960
<v Speaker 2>you watch what Jared Polis does between now and the

1022
00:54:17.079 --> 00:54:20.320
<v Speaker 2>time he announces that he is seeking the Democratic candidacy

1023
00:54:20.400 --> 00:54:23.480
<v Speaker 2>for president, you're going to see a masterclass in strategy,

1024
00:54:23.639 --> 00:54:28.440
<v Speaker 2>slow drip strategy. If you watch the speech, and I

1025
00:54:28.519 --> 00:54:31.039
<v Speaker 2>watched about three quarters of it. Guy just didn't have

1026
00:54:31.119 --> 00:54:33.039
<v Speaker 2>time to finish it. It wasn't like some you know,

1027
00:54:33.559 --> 00:54:35.840
<v Speaker 2>principled stance I took not watching the rest of the speech.

1028
00:54:35.880 --> 00:54:38.000
<v Speaker 2>I just didn't have time to watch the whole thing

1029
00:54:38.440 --> 00:54:41.679
<v Speaker 2>in it. He referred to Colorado as the free state

1030
00:54:41.960 --> 00:54:47.480
<v Speaker 2>of Colorado multiple times. And this is this new thing, right,

1031
00:54:47.599 --> 00:54:52.519
<v Speaker 2>because Ron DeSantis is currently truly overseeing the free state

1032
00:54:52.559 --> 00:54:57.440
<v Speaker 2>of Florida. But Jared Polus needs to brand us as

1033
00:54:57.519 --> 00:54:59.280
<v Speaker 2>the free state of Florida in order to be able

1034
00:54:59.280 --> 00:55:02.320
<v Speaker 2>to compete with Ron DeSantis on the freedom measure. And

1035
00:55:02.400 --> 00:55:05.119
<v Speaker 2>now we all know that over the last few years,

1036
00:55:05.880 --> 00:55:09.320
<v Speaker 2>the Democratic legislature has chipped away at our gun rights.

1037
00:55:09.920 --> 00:55:13.360
<v Speaker 2>They have chipped away at parental rights and your right

1038
00:55:13.480 --> 00:55:16.320
<v Speaker 2>as a parent to know that your child has decided

1039
00:55:16.360 --> 00:55:18.679
<v Speaker 2>that they are the other gender. They have chipped away

1040
00:55:18.840 --> 00:55:22.000
<v Speaker 2>at a parent's ability to decide when they learned about

1041
00:55:22.480 --> 00:55:25.679
<v Speaker 2>graphic sex education, things like learning about sex work in

1042
00:55:25.800 --> 00:55:29.159
<v Speaker 2>first grade. They've chipped away in a lot of our freedoms.

1043
00:55:29.159 --> 00:55:31.239
<v Speaker 2>They've chipped away at your freedom to get a freaking

1044
00:55:31.280 --> 00:55:35.400
<v Speaker 2>plastic bag. But he's going to rebrand us as the

1045
00:55:35.440 --> 00:55:38.199
<v Speaker 2>freedom loving Colorado. But listen, to this, I think we're

1046
00:55:38.320 --> 00:55:43.719
<v Speaker 2>entering into a new age of new speak. Democrats are

1047
00:55:43.800 --> 00:55:48.840
<v Speaker 2>going to try and repackage government forced oppression as freedom.

1048
00:55:49.639 --> 00:55:53.920
<v Speaker 2>Listen to this. Senate Majority Leader Robert Rodriguez, Democrat Denver,

1049
00:55:54.440 --> 00:55:57.719
<v Speaker 2>use the governor's phrase of the day to push legislation

1050
00:55:58.159 --> 00:56:00.840
<v Speaker 2>he hopes to pass this session that would get rid

1051
00:56:00.960 --> 00:56:05.119
<v Speaker 2>of a law requiring a higher election threshold before unions

1052
00:56:05.199 --> 00:56:10.000
<v Speaker 2>can collect dues from non union members in a unionized workplace. Now,

1053
00:56:10.239 --> 00:56:13.000
<v Speaker 2>to be clear, that bill is going to force people

1054
00:56:13.280 --> 00:56:15.599
<v Speaker 2>who do not want to belong to a union to

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00:56:15.719 --> 00:56:18.480
<v Speaker 2>give their hard earned dollars to the union that they

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00:56:18.519 --> 00:56:22.239
<v Speaker 2>don't want to belong to. But Robert Rodriguez, this is

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00:56:22.320 --> 00:56:25.840
<v Speaker 2>what he says. I think, for as many times as

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00:56:25.880 --> 00:56:28.679
<v Speaker 2>he said free state in there, maybe the free state

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00:56:28.719 --> 00:56:32.559
<v Speaker 2>of Colorado's government shouldn't get involved with an employer employee

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00:56:32.679 --> 00:56:37.400
<v Speaker 2>business thing and insert themselves into a negotiation. As somebody

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00:56:37.440 --> 00:56:39.840
<v Speaker 2>who wants workers to have a voice and to say

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00:56:39.960 --> 00:56:43.960
<v Speaker 2>in their business operations and protect themselves and wages and

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00:56:44.119 --> 00:56:49.079
<v Speaker 2>being harmed, I'm a big advocate for promoting that. So

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00:56:49.239 --> 00:56:53.559
<v Speaker 2>to be clear, he is saying that forcing people who

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00:56:53.639 --> 00:56:55.480
<v Speaker 2>do not want to be a part of a union

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00:56:55.840 --> 00:57:00.360
<v Speaker 2>to then fork over their hard earned dollars involuntary and

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00:57:00.519 --> 00:57:06.760
<v Speaker 2>against their will. He's calling that freedom. This is the

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00:57:06.840 --> 00:57:09.840
<v Speaker 2>new thing. This is what we're gonna see now. They're

1069
00:57:09.880 --> 00:57:12.960
<v Speaker 2>gonna take every single bit of oppression and they are

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00:57:13.000 --> 00:57:17.599
<v Speaker 2>going to repackage it as freedom. It's going to be absurd,

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00:57:17.639 --> 00:57:19.039
<v Speaker 2>and I'm going to tell you about it every single

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00:57:19.079 --> 00:57:23.760
<v Speaker 2>time it happens. Freedom means that you give a business

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00:57:23.880 --> 00:57:26.599
<v Speaker 2>the right to say i'd like unionized employees or not.

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00:57:26.760 --> 00:57:31.159
<v Speaker 2>That's freedom. Freedom is allowing a worker to say, you

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00:57:31.199 --> 00:57:33.639
<v Speaker 2>know what, I appreciate that I work in a unionized workforce,

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00:57:33.840 --> 00:57:36.320
<v Speaker 2>but you guys donate to money that I completely disagree

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00:57:36.360 --> 00:57:37.519
<v Speaker 2>with and I don't want to give you any of

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00:57:37.599 --> 00:57:37.880
<v Speaker 2>mine to.

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00:57:37.920 --> 00:57:38.280
<v Speaker 7>Do that with.

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00:57:39.199 --> 00:57:42.039
<v Speaker 2>Sorry, I'll negotiate my own contract if I need to.

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00:57:43.760 --> 00:57:47.119
<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's freedom. So he's certainly not talking about

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00:57:47.159 --> 00:57:53.679
<v Speaker 2>freedom in this paragraph. It's astounding that they really do

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00:57:53.840 --> 00:57:57.000
<v Speaker 2>think you're that stupid. They think you're too dumb to

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00:57:57.119 --> 00:58:00.199
<v Speaker 2>realize what I just said. And they think that if

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00:58:00.239 --> 00:58:02.039
<v Speaker 2>they just keep telling you it was the same thing

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00:58:02.119 --> 00:58:04.599
<v Speaker 2>they just did in the presidential election cycle, though, wasn't it.

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00:58:04.920 --> 00:58:07.079
<v Speaker 2>They ran around telling you Hey, you know what, This

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00:58:07.239 --> 00:58:11.199
<v Speaker 2>economy is on fire? Can't you fail it cooking? When

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00:58:11.239 --> 00:58:13.840
<v Speaker 2>you're out there going well, why can't I afford gas?

1090
00:58:15.400 --> 00:58:17.920
<v Speaker 2>Why is my property taxes going up so much? What

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00:58:18.039 --> 00:58:21.719
<v Speaker 2>is happening? I can't afford life. Everything costs twenty percent

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00:58:21.800 --> 00:58:24.840
<v Speaker 2>more than it did a few years ago. And they're

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00:58:24.880 --> 00:58:26.519
<v Speaker 2>telling you this economy is great. It's going to be

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00:58:26.519 --> 00:58:29.239
<v Speaker 2>the same thing in Colorado. They're gonna shove more government

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00:58:29.280 --> 00:58:32.480
<v Speaker 2>regulation down your throat. They're gonna shove more rules down

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00:58:32.519 --> 00:58:37.400
<v Speaker 2>your throat. I we own a rental property and we

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00:58:37.480 --> 00:58:39.840
<v Speaker 2>have a property manager. And if any of you have

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00:58:40.000 --> 00:58:42.039
<v Speaker 2>a rental property that you are tired of the day

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00:58:42.079 --> 00:58:44.760
<v Speaker 2>to day management of that rental property, you send me

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00:58:44.800 --> 00:58:46.480
<v Speaker 2>an email, and I will send you the name of

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00:58:46.559 --> 00:58:52.159
<v Speaker 2>my property manager, because she is outstanding. And at the

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00:58:52.239 --> 00:58:54.840
<v Speaker 2>end of the year, she sent us an email that

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00:58:55.039 --> 00:58:58.519
<v Speaker 2>showed all of the laws that have been passed against landlords.

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00:58:58.559 --> 00:59:01.559
<v Speaker 2>And I say against landlords. And if you don't believe

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00:59:01.559 --> 00:59:05.119
<v Speaker 2>the Democratic legislature is anti landlord, listen to this one

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00:59:05.599 --> 00:59:07.400
<v Speaker 2>rule change. And there's a whole bunch more, whole bunch

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00:59:07.440 --> 00:59:08.679
<v Speaker 2>more that I could share with you, but I'm not

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00:59:08.920 --> 00:59:10.239
<v Speaker 2>because I don't want to bore you. If you're not

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00:59:10.280 --> 00:59:15.840
<v Speaker 2>a landlord in Colorado, if you have to file eviction

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00:59:16.000 --> 00:59:19.079
<v Speaker 2>proceedings to evict someone from your property, and this could

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00:59:19.119 --> 00:59:21.599
<v Speaker 2>be because they haven't paid their rent in six months

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00:59:21.920 --> 00:59:24.559
<v Speaker 2>or whatever. Maybe they've destroyed your property and you want

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00:59:24.599 --> 00:59:28.199
<v Speaker 2>them out. Maybe they're they're engaging in a legal activity

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00:59:28.480 --> 00:59:30.719
<v Speaker 2>in that property, or whatever the reason you want them

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00:59:30.800 --> 00:59:34.239
<v Speaker 2>out of your property. You now have to pay a

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00:59:34.400 --> 00:59:39.480
<v Speaker 2>fee to the city that will then fund your tenants eviction.

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00:59:40.599 --> 00:59:43.400
<v Speaker 2>So you are now paying for both sides of the eviction.

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<v Speaker 2>If that is not we hate landlords, what is? Because

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00:59:49.360 --> 00:59:53.519
<v Speaker 2>that is insane. They act like every landlord is a

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00:59:53.599 --> 00:59:56.880
<v Speaker 2>slum lord. They act like every landlord mistreats tenants. They

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00:59:56.920 --> 00:59:59.639
<v Speaker 2>act like every landlord is the worst thing in the

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00:59:59.679 --> 01:00:05.760
<v Speaker 2>world here in Colorado. I mean absolutely the worst. So

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01:00:06.320 --> 01:00:10.159
<v Speaker 2>you know, whatever Jared Paula said, it doesn't matter for Colorado.

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01:00:10.239 --> 01:00:13.199
<v Speaker 2>It's all about how it looks when he runs for president.

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<v Speaker 2>That's all it is. And if you know what, here's

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01:00:15.920 --> 01:00:18.079
<v Speaker 2>the thing, if he's not running for president, then I

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01:00:18.119 --> 01:00:20.000
<v Speaker 2>would love to have a conversation with him where he's

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01:00:20.039 --> 01:00:21.960
<v Speaker 2>gonna explain to me some of the things that he's

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01:00:22.000 --> 01:00:25.119
<v Speaker 2>done that make no sense for Colorado's but are definitely

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01:00:25.199 --> 01:00:29.039
<v Speaker 2>with an eye to where he's going next. This free

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01:00:29.079 --> 01:00:31.719
<v Speaker 2>State of Colorado crap is either designed to make us

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01:00:31.920 --> 01:00:34.079
<v Speaker 2>you know who, you're gonna believe your own lie in

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01:00:34.199 --> 01:00:38.440
<v Speaker 2>eyes or the governor. That's how that feels. Yesterday I

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01:00:38.519 --> 01:00:41.360
<v Speaker 2>went to the store. There were some eggs in the store,

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01:00:41.440 --> 01:00:44.840
<v Speaker 2>so we've made progress out of the I don't know,

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01:00:45.039 --> 01:00:48.199
<v Speaker 2>eight doors worth in the case of eggs, they had

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01:00:48.239 --> 01:00:51.039
<v Speaker 2>like three doors worth of eggs. They had one pack

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01:00:51.440 --> 01:00:53.800
<v Speaker 2>of the pasture raised eggs that I liked. They were

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01:00:53.840 --> 01:00:56.880
<v Speaker 2>ten dollars and forty nine cents and I paid it.

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01:00:58.880 --> 01:01:00.800
<v Speaker 2>And for all the people in the new media running

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01:01:00.800 --> 01:01:04.079
<v Speaker 2>around here saying that this is everywhere with the egg thing,

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01:01:04.159 --> 01:01:06.639
<v Speaker 2>you guys on a regular basis, I am asking my

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01:01:06.760 --> 01:01:08.440
<v Speaker 2>friends in other states to tell me what their egg

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01:01:08.480 --> 01:01:10.760
<v Speaker 2>situation is. And they're all like, what are you talking about?

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01:01:11.519 --> 01:01:12.079
<v Speaker 9>What are you talking?

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01:01:12.119 --> 01:01:15.639
<v Speaker 2>Of course, we have eggs. It is not across the country.

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01:01:15.920 --> 01:01:19.360
<v Speaker 2>Don't buy that lie either. Call some friends, call some relatives,

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01:01:19.559 --> 01:01:22.199
<v Speaker 2>call people that live around the state. They are not

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01:01:22.360 --> 01:01:25.000
<v Speaker 2>facing the same egg. Go to Wyoming, for God's sake.

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01:01:26.000 --> 01:01:28.039
<v Speaker 2>They're not facing the same egg shortage as we are here.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't care what anybody else says. It is insane, Mandy.

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01:01:31.639 --> 01:01:35.239
<v Speaker 2>Those union news can also be donated to political organizations

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01:01:35.280 --> 01:01:38.760
<v Speaker 2>that you don't agree with. Correct, So if they want

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01:01:38.840 --> 01:01:43.480
<v Speaker 2>to ban unions from making political donations, I would think

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01:01:43.559 --> 01:01:46.800
<v Speaker 2>that making someone pay union dues would be a reasonable

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01:01:46.840 --> 01:01:49.079
<v Speaker 2>thing to ask. But do you think that's ever gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 2>Hell no, because the Democrats know that that basically is

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01:01:52.480 --> 01:01:54.719
<v Speaker 2>their slush fund and they're not going to dry that up.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to share this text message and then I

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<v Speaker 2>we'll move on from this union talk.

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<v Speaker 9>Mandy.

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01:01:58.519 --> 01:02:01.599
<v Speaker 2>I live in Missouri and I'm a fee in my union.

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01:02:01.920 --> 01:02:05.320
<v Speaker 2>That means I only pay chargeable fees, so not one

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01:02:05.400 --> 01:02:07.719
<v Speaker 2>dime of my money goes to the Democrats. To do this,

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01:02:08.360 --> 01:02:10.920
<v Speaker 2>I had to send notarized letters to both the local

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01:02:11.039 --> 01:02:13.800
<v Speaker 2>union and the international chapter. And I had to send

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01:02:13.840 --> 01:02:17.199
<v Speaker 2>it at a specific time of the year. And that's

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01:02:17.599 --> 01:02:22.079
<v Speaker 2>probably not under consideration to make us more free that

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01:02:22.159 --> 01:02:24.440
<v Speaker 2>you should be able to opt out all year long.

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01:02:24.519 --> 01:02:25.920
<v Speaker 2>You should just be able to send an email and

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01:02:25.960 --> 01:02:31.519
<v Speaker 2>say no, I'm good, I am good. So lots of

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<v Speaker 2>stuff on the blog today, and one quick story. I

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01:02:34.559 --> 01:02:37.039
<v Speaker 2>want to get in really quickly. Right now is the

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01:02:37.079 --> 01:02:38.519
<v Speaker 2>time of year. It's colder than the hell. When you

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<v Speaker 2>go outside to start your car, a lot of people

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01:02:41.400 --> 01:02:45.679
<v Speaker 2>do what's called puffing. You start the car, you leave it,

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01:02:45.920 --> 01:02:48.920
<v Speaker 2>you go back inside to stay warm. And in Oravada

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01:02:49.039 --> 01:02:54.760
<v Speaker 2>recently two cars we're gone when someone showed up to

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01:02:55.119 --> 01:02:58.239
<v Speaker 2>make them go too. We're stolen in the same manner

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<v Speaker 2>last week on the same morning. Now, I went to

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<v Speaker 2>Consumer Reports and an organization I've trusted for a long time,

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01:03:06.039 --> 01:03:10.599
<v Speaker 2>even though they don't always get everything right. Consumer Reports

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01:03:10.679 --> 01:03:14.320
<v Speaker 2>chief mechanic John Ibbitson says that giving the engine a

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<v Speaker 2>chance to run for a minute, one minute, sixty seconds

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01:03:17.760 --> 01:03:19.960
<v Speaker 2>before driving on a cold day is smart, but there's

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01:03:20.000 --> 01:03:22.280
<v Speaker 2>no need to let it run longer beyond warming the

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01:03:22.360 --> 01:03:25.280
<v Speaker 2>cabin and defogging the windshield. And there's a real downside

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01:03:25.320 --> 01:03:29.199
<v Speaker 2>wasting fuel and generating emissions. And if you go back

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<v Speaker 2>to what just happened in Nevada, possibly getting your car stolen.

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<v Speaker 2>An engine is fully lubricated long before it reaches fully

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01:03:37.159 --> 01:03:40.360
<v Speaker 2>operating temperature. When your car sits for an extended period

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01:03:40.400 --> 01:03:42.199
<v Speaker 2>of time, the oil drains down to the bottom of

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01:03:42.239 --> 01:03:44.679
<v Speaker 2>the oil pan. Once you start the engine, the oil

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01:03:44.760 --> 01:03:48.400
<v Speaker 2>pump quickly circulates the oil throughout the motor, lubricating all

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01:03:48.440 --> 01:03:52.280
<v Speaker 2>the necessary moving parts. A cold engine idols at twelve

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01:03:52.400 --> 01:03:55.760
<v Speaker 2>hundred rpm or more, making it quick work of the

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01:03:55.840 --> 01:03:57.320
<v Speaker 2>lubrication process.

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<v Speaker 6>So you do not have to do that.

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<v Speaker 2>You do not have to let your car. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I understand one of your car to be nice and

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01:04:05.079 --> 01:04:08.599
<v Speaker 2>toasty warm. I don't care. I get in, I start

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01:04:08.679 --> 01:04:11.239
<v Speaker 2>my car, I'd pull out of the garage. I'd close

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01:04:11.280 --> 01:04:13.239
<v Speaker 2>the garage door behind me. I sit there for like

1204
01:04:13.320 --> 01:04:15.880
<v Speaker 2>thirty seconds, and then I'm off pull out of the

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<v Speaker 2>what garage?

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<v Speaker 6>One more time?

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<v Speaker 2>Garage?

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01:04:18.360 --> 01:04:20.519
<v Speaker 6>Not everyone has a luxury parking garage to leave us alone.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying, but I would still walk out. If

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01:04:23.039 --> 01:04:24.400
<v Speaker 2>let's just say my car is parked in front of

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01:04:24.400 --> 01:04:26.239
<v Speaker 2>my house, I would walk out. I would get in,

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01:04:26.440 --> 01:04:28.079
<v Speaker 2>I would start the car. I would sit there for

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01:04:28.159 --> 01:04:30.280
<v Speaker 2>thirty seconds, and then I would drive auto. What I

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01:04:30.400 --> 01:04:33.199
<v Speaker 2>do auto start? Before I don't start, your car remains locked.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, that's not what we're talking about.

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<v Speaker 4>Huh.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, I just wanted to make a point.

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<v Speaker 2>We're talking about people who are starting their cars and

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<v Speaker 2>then I'm assuming Wait a minute, wait a minute, let

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<v Speaker 2>me see here.

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<v Speaker 6>One would assume, yes, she started her.

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01:04:43.840 --> 01:04:46.920
<v Speaker 2>Car, realized she left something inside her house, she ran

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01:04:47.039 --> 01:04:49.559
<v Speaker 2>back in with her keys still in the ignition grab

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01:04:49.760 --> 01:04:52.760
<v Speaker 2>your coffee, and someone stole her car.

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<v Speaker 6>I can't do that.

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<v Speaker 13>That person was quick, that person was like casing the

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<v Speaker 13>house to be that fast, or maybe just perfect crime

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<v Speaker 13>of opportunity, you know, real perfect yeah, yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, puffing is illegal in the state of Colorado.

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<v Speaker 2>You're not allowed to leave your car idling, even in

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01:05:11.960 --> 01:05:14.679
<v Speaker 2>the super cold weather. But with our car theft situation,

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01:05:14.800 --> 01:05:18.239
<v Speaker 2>it just feels like a uh, you know, an opportunity

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01:05:18.400 --> 01:05:22.280
<v Speaker 2>for an enterprising criminal to go ahead and steal your car.

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<v Speaker 2>So there you go. Coming up in the next hour,

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonn let's do a two minute drill here. Oh no,

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<v Speaker 2>we got a guest to too. We've got Javon coming

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<v Speaker 2>on from the Marcus Brain Institute at SeeU and Shoots

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<v Speaker 2>and they're doing amazing thing for people with traumatic brain injury.

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<v Speaker 2>Today is like how to fix your brain day. We

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<v Speaker 2>talked about psychedelic A sisted therapy earlier, and now we

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<v Speaker 2>are talking about about traumatic brain injuries and some of

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<v Speaker 2>the stuff that they are doing at the Marcus Institute.

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<v Speaker 2>Had a conversation with my friend Rob today and he

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<v Speaker 2>is now an ambassador for the Marcus Institute because of

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<v Speaker 2>the kind of help that they helped provide him. So

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna talk to Java Bear from the Marcus Brain

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<v Speaker 2>Health Institute next.

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<v Speaker 1>The Mandy Connell Show is sponsored by Bell and Pollock

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<v Speaker 1>Accident and Injury Lawyers.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's Mandy Connell andy Ton.

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<v Speaker 12>On KOA.

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<v Speaker 2>Ninety one FM.

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<v Speaker 4>God you want to stay the ninety three by Connell

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<v Speaker 4>keeping sad bab Welcome, Welcome.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to the third hour of the show, and we

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<v Speaker 2>hear a lot about traumatic brain injury and how devastating

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<v Speaker 2>they can be. So it's time to check in with

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<v Speaker 2>Javon Bear. He's the Community Outreach specialist for the Marcus

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<v Speaker 2>Institute for Brain Health at CU and Shoots Medical Campus.

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<v Speaker 2>And Javon, first of all, welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 12>Thank you so much for having me many it's a

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<v Speaker 12>pleasure to be here.

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<v Speaker 2>I want you to just kind of start by talking

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<v Speaker 2>about what traumatic brain injury is and how it can

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<v Speaker 2>create long term problems for people.

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<v Speaker 14>Yeah, so traumatic brain injury is in the In recent years,

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<v Speaker 14>the research has changed about it. You know, we used

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<v Speaker 14>to think of traumatic brain injury as simply just a

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<v Speaker 14>concussion or blunt force trauma to the head.

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<v Speaker 12>But especially in the community that.

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<v Speaker 14>We service at the Marcus Institute for Brain Health, veterans,

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<v Speaker 14>active duty service members, and first responders, we found that

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<v Speaker 14>so many things like last exposure, exposure to big guns,

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<v Speaker 14>cruiser weapons, things like that also cause those waves from

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<v Speaker 14>those kind of weapons are are causing traumatic brain injuries

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<v Speaker 14>as well. So are those basically so many of the symptoms.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh sorry, go ahead, sorry, No, are those percussive injuries?

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<v Speaker 2>Like if you're standing next to a really big gun,

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<v Speaker 2>even if you have ear protection, that boom, is that

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<v Speaker 2>causing like the brain to bounce off the skull? What

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<v Speaker 2>do we talk about here?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh?

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<v Speaker 12>Of course.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 14>So when you think about the best examples for like

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<v Speaker 14>the military per se like artillery and mortarman, you know,

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<v Speaker 14>when they spend so much time launching those rounds in

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<v Speaker 14>that concussive wave that if you've ever felt an explosion,

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<v Speaker 14>you know you can feel it going through your internal

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<v Speaker 14>organs and the brain is no different.

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<v Speaker 12>It's also you know, rattling it back and forth in

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<v Speaker 12>the skull like that.

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<v Speaker 2>What are some of the long term symptoms that you

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<v Speaker 2>see people being challenged by.

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<v Speaker 14>So, you know, sleeplessness, depression, there's a link to suicidal ideation.

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<v Speaker 14>There's cognitive issues, there's speech issues, you know, where the

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<v Speaker 14>brain is just not connecting like it used to and

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<v Speaker 14>so you might have a thought on the tip of

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<v Speaker 14>your tongue but you just can't find the the resources

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<v Speaker 14>to get it out.

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<v Speaker 12>So you know, it's obviously the brain controls everything.

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<v Speaker 14>And when it starts to sustain these long term injuries,

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<v Speaker 14>you know, it starts to slow kind of everything down

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<v Speaker 14>to balance.

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<v Speaker 2>These symptoms sound like classic symptoms of post traumatic stress.

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<v Speaker 2>How are those things connected or are we looking at

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<v Speaker 2>something as a psychological issue that could actually be a

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<v Speaker 2>brain damage in a brain injury issue.

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<v Speaker 14>Yeah, So the it's interesting you bring that up because

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<v Speaker 14>the link between PTSD and TBIs is very close. And

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<v Speaker 14>what we found out at the Marcus Institute is for

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<v Speaker 14>a long time, TBIs in service members and first responders,

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<v Speaker 14>we're actually misdiagnosed as PTSD because the symptoms.

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<v Speaker 12>Are so so close.

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<v Speaker 14>But when you're not treating the root cause of a

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<v Speaker 14>brain injury and you're only treating you know, say the

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<v Speaker 14>post traumatic stress through through medication or something like that,

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<v Speaker 14>you're not actually getting to the to the root cause.

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<v Speaker 14>So we try to look at it as like a

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<v Speaker 14>Venn diagram of PTSD and TBI.

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<v Speaker 2>So I've always heard that the brain, you know, once

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<v Speaker 2>you kill a brain cell, you don't get a new one.

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<v Speaker 2>And we're now learning a lot more about brain plasticity

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<v Speaker 2>and the brain's ability to regenerate certain pathways. How do

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<v Speaker 2>you work with someone who has a traumatic brain injury?

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<v Speaker 2>How do you fix that?

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<v Speaker 14>Well, yeah, and you're right, that whole that whole old

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<v Speaker 14>idea of you know, once the brain cells are gone,

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<v Speaker 14>they're gone.

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<v Speaker 12>Thankfully, we've discovered that that's not true.

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<v Speaker 14>What we do at the Marcus Institute is we take

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<v Speaker 14>a holistic approach to treating the brain. So when patients

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<v Speaker 14>come to see us, we use an interdisciplinary modality your

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<v Speaker 14>team to address all the different aspects that can be affected.

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<v Speaker 12>So patients will visit.

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<v Speaker 14>With neurologists, neuropsychologist, cognitive therapists, speech language pathology, even like equine.

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<v Speaker 12>Therapy and art therapy.

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<v Speaker 14>So we try to look at every part of the brain,

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<v Speaker 14>from your balance to your speech to your vision, everything

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<v Speaker 14>that could be affected and try to figure out, you know,

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<v Speaker 14>how we can individualize that treatment to that patient.

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<v Speaker 12>Everybody's brain is going to be injured in you know,

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<v Speaker 12>a different fashion.

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<v Speaker 2>I was talking to a friend of mine who went

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<v Speaker 2>through the evaluation with you guys, and he said it

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<v Speaker 2>was some of the most intense three days of his life.

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<v Speaker 2>That he was exhausted at the end of it. And

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<v Speaker 2>it sounds like that process is the process I mean, meaning,

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<v Speaker 2>do you put people through this kind of grueling And

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<v Speaker 2>I don't use the word grueling to mean you're lifting

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<v Speaker 2>heavy rocks, which is mentally grueling. Testing is that part

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<v Speaker 2>of the test to see exactly where they are or

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<v Speaker 2>how they're doing you know what I mean? Are you

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<v Speaker 2>testing someone's limits by by putting them through a pretty

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<v Speaker 2>rigorous intake process.

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<v Speaker 14>Yeah, yeah, so it's not it's not so much of

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<v Speaker 14>testing the limits, as you know, we want to make

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<v Speaker 14>sure that the person that we're treating is the right

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<v Speaker 14>fit for our clinic, and so to make sure that,

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<v Speaker 14>you know, it's actually more TBI than PTSD because we

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<v Speaker 14>have some.

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<v Speaker 12>Other resources for that.

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<v Speaker 14>But but yeah, the you know, that's a common consensus

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<v Speaker 14>of our patients when they go through the treatment, it

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<v Speaker 14>is incredibly intensive. You know, for spending your day in

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<v Speaker 14>a clinic, going from appointment to appointment, you'd be amazed

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<v Speaker 14>with how exhausted you are. But the beauty of that

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<v Speaker 14>is and I you know, we tell this to all

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<v Speaker 14>of our patients. The more willing you are to come

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<v Speaker 14>into the clinic and be honest with us and be

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<v Speaker 14>willing to open up about, you know, all of the

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<v Speaker 14>injuries that you've sustained, the traumas that you have sustained,

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<v Speaker 14>The more willing you are to be open, the more

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<v Speaker 14>that we can pull out of you and help you heal.

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<v Speaker 12>So that's where that exhaustion comes from.

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<v Speaker 14>You know, you're you will be spending some time, you know,

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<v Speaker 14>reopening some wounds and rediscovering some things, but with the

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<v Speaker 14>idea of moving past all of that.

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<v Speaker 2>We have a question from the text line, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think I know that gist of what this person is asking.

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<v Speaker 2>It says, can you and your brain be okay for

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<v Speaker 2>a long time after some exposure then get symptoms years later?

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<v Speaker 12>One hundred percent?

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<v Speaker 14>Yeah, yeah, So you know, the when your brain is injured,

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<v Speaker 14>it's a lot like injuring any other part of your body,

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<v Speaker 14>like an ankle, for example, and if you don't get

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<v Speaker 14>that treated right away, you will you know, not only

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<v Speaker 14>will the injury get worse, but you're going to start

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<v Speaker 14>to develop natural coping mechanisms that might not be the

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<v Speaker 14>most beneficial towards me.

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<v Speaker 12>So, yeah, we have we have patients that come to

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<v Speaker 12>our clinic that.

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<v Speaker 14>Have been out of the military, out of service for

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<v Speaker 14>you know, twenty thirty years, and they've gotten to that

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<v Speaker 14>point where you know, there's just they recognize that something

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<v Speaker 14>is wrong and they need that help. So we encourage

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<v Speaker 14>if you do think you have a brain injury, to

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<v Speaker 14>please reach out us sooner rather than later.

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<v Speaker 2>What are some of the common reasons that people give

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<v Speaker 2>for coming in, What are the what are the catalysts

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<v Speaker 2>that spur them into the Markets Institute for Brain Health.

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<v Speaker 14>Well, you know, with us treating exclusively veterans and first responders,

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<v Speaker 14>we get we get people that have been treated usually

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<v Speaker 14>the VA or some kind of similar entity that they've

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<v Speaker 14>gone to for help with PTSD, help with sleeplessness, help

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<v Speaker 14>with cognitive issues, and you know, through the process of

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<v Speaker 14>you know, bureaucracies like the VA, they have just kind

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<v Speaker 14>of felt untreated unseen unheard, and it's those Usually it's

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<v Speaker 14>a combination of those PTSD like symptoms that have gone

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<v Speaker 14>on for so long untreated or unresolved.

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<v Speaker 12>Rather that that's what brings people to our door.

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<v Speaker 2>Do people have to go through the VA if they

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<v Speaker 2>are a veteran who has triycare or some other form

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<v Speaker 2>of insurance? How can they get to you if they're

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<v Speaker 2>listening right now and maybe they're not really in any

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<v Speaker 2>treatment at all. Do they start somewhere else before they

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<v Speaker 2>come to you, guys, or can you help them first?

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<v Speaker 12>No, So that's the beauty of it. We're not connected

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<v Speaker 12>with the VA.

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<v Speaker 14>We do have a liaison to help out people in

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<v Speaker 14>that respect, but we are we're entirely philanthropic everything we do.

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<v Speaker 14>There is no out of pocket cut for veterans, first

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<v Speaker 14>responders or active duty. Okay, we cover travel, lodging, the

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<v Speaker 14>whole nine yards. The website that you have linked for

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<v Speaker 14>people to look up. It's as simple as going on

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<v Speaker 14>there and beginning your intake form and then one of

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<v Speaker 14>our wonderful intake team members will spend some time on

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<v Speaker 14>the phone and get to know you, get to know

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<v Speaker 14>a little bit of the issues that you're dealing with

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<v Speaker 14>and get you out for an evaluation.

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<v Speaker 2>Somebody just asks, can you confirm a TBI while someone

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<v Speaker 2>is alive?

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<v Speaker 9>I think that they are.

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<v Speaker 2>Putting CTE and traumatic brain injury in the same bucket,

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<v Speaker 2>but that's not necessarily true. How do you know the TBI?

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<v Speaker 12>Well, the TBI. Yeah, So to answer their question, yes,

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<v Speaker 12>one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 7>We can.

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<v Speaker 12>We can see these when when you are alive, and

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<v Speaker 12>the way.

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<v Speaker 14>To diagnose it without you know, like an MRI scan

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<v Speaker 14>can but also sometimes you can't see those injuries. So

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<v Speaker 14>that's why for us, it's more of a symptomatic thing.

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<v Speaker 14>Okay if you can, like and it doesn't have to

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<v Speaker 14>be documented either. If you come and say, like, hey,

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<v Speaker 14>you know X number of years ago, I was in

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<v Speaker 14>the military, I hit my head and nothing's been the

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<v Speaker 14>same since. That's where our team of clinicians and physicians

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<v Speaker 14>are going to look and see like, Okay, are these

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<v Speaker 14>symptoms that you're having, are they directly correlated to this

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<v Speaker 14>head injury? And is this something that we can help

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<v Speaker 14>you work past.

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<v Speaker 2>Javon Bear is my guest, and the organization that we're

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<v Speaker 2>talking to or talking about is the Marcus Institute for

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<v Speaker 2>Brain Health. Jevon, this is a fascinating conversation. I would

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<v Speaker 2>love to come and see what you guys do there,

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<v Speaker 2>if that would be possible, I would love it because.

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<v Speaker 12>I think anytime then in our community, we have so.

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<v Speaker 2>Many veterans, so many first responders, and I think a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of them have the tendency to downplay the symptoms

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<v Speaker 2>that they're dealing with. Perhaps they don't want to think

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<v Speaker 2>about whether or not they have PTS, or maybe they

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<v Speaker 2>haven't considered the fact that this might be a brain

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<v Speaker 2>injury instead of just you know, a psychological issue that

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<v Speaker 2>they don't want to deal with. I guess that's the

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<v Speaker 2>best way to put it. Javon Beer, thank you so

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<v Speaker 2>much for your time today.

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<v Speaker 6>Thank you for having me.

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<v Speaker 12>It's been a been a pleasure to be able to

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<v Speaker 12>talk about this.

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<v Speaker 2>Last question from the text line, do you have to

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<v Speaker 2>be a veteran or first responder to get an evaluation

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<v Speaker 2>and treatment?

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<v Speaker 14>Yes, we do treat exclusively veterans, first responders, and as

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01:17:21.279 --> 01:17:23.720
<v Speaker 14>of last year, active duty service members as well.

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01:17:23.840 --> 01:17:25.720
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so you got to be in that category to

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01:17:25.760 --> 01:17:28.479
<v Speaker 2>make that happen. Javon, great information. Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 9>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>You know we forgot Joon hang on. You got to

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01:17:32.000 --> 01:17:33.560
<v Speaker 2>hang on through a break because we've got to talk

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01:17:33.560 --> 01:17:35.600
<v Speaker 2>about the Gaylen. I have a couple more questions. We'll

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01:17:35.600 --> 01:17:37.680
<v Speaker 2>be right back with Javon Beher from the Marcus Institute

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01:17:37.720 --> 01:17:39.720
<v Speaker 2>for Brain Health. After this, we are going to ask

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01:17:39.800 --> 01:17:41.279
<v Speaker 2>I want to ask before I let you go. We

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01:17:41.359 --> 01:17:45.560
<v Speaker 2>were talking about diagnosing traumatic brain injury the similar symptoms

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01:17:45.640 --> 01:17:50.119
<v Speaker 2>to PTS and aging. I mean really, but I want

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01:17:50.159 --> 01:17:52.079
<v Speaker 2>to ask about some of the therapies that you guys

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01:17:52.239 --> 01:17:54.920
<v Speaker 2>use because I've always thought once you have a brain injury,

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01:17:54.960 --> 01:17:57.119
<v Speaker 2>there's very little chance you're going to be able to

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01:17:57.159 --> 01:18:00.359
<v Speaker 2>fix it. But what do you guys do that that is,

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01:18:00.640 --> 01:18:02.680
<v Speaker 2>you know you've figured out over time helps.

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01:18:04.560 --> 01:18:07.439
<v Speaker 12>Yeah, So we use several different therapies.

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01:18:08.319 --> 01:18:10.960
<v Speaker 14>You know, throughout the evaluation period we kind of figure

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01:18:10.960 --> 01:18:15.439
<v Speaker 14>out which therapy each patient is going to need. But

1495
01:18:15.760 --> 01:18:19.800
<v Speaker 14>we do neuropsychology, you know obviously to try and you know,

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01:18:20.079 --> 01:18:25.479
<v Speaker 14>kind of retrain the brain to to get back to

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01:18:25.600 --> 01:18:27.600
<v Speaker 14>what it was pre injury, you know, with with a

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01:18:27.640 --> 01:18:31.560
<v Speaker 14>little bit of cognitive help also cognitive therapy just to

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01:18:31.680 --> 01:18:35.000
<v Speaker 14>help us you know, connect those thoughts again, get those

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01:18:35.880 --> 01:18:41.199
<v Speaker 14>get those thoughts out also through speech language pathology. You know,

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01:18:41.960 --> 01:18:44.600
<v Speaker 14>when you have thoughts stuck on the tip of your tongue,

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01:18:44.640 --> 01:18:49.159
<v Speaker 14>trying to get that out. Behavioral health is a big one,

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01:18:49.239 --> 01:18:51.560
<v Speaker 14>you know, trying to get to some of the the

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01:18:51.680 --> 01:18:56.039
<v Speaker 14>root causes of some the pts like symptoms. We do

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01:18:56.199 --> 01:19:01.039
<v Speaker 14>physical therapy, which most of our patients have pretty pretty

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01:19:01.079 --> 01:19:04.239
<v Speaker 14>good time with, you know, where we really that's one

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01:19:04.239 --> 01:19:06.039
<v Speaker 14>of the things where we do test limits, a little

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01:19:06.079 --> 01:19:08.359
<v Speaker 14>bit of your balance and to see how you really

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01:19:08.439 --> 01:19:10.960
<v Speaker 14>are coping with this brain injury on a physical level.

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01:19:12.239 --> 01:19:16.680
<v Speaker 14>This one is a little little viewed with some skepticism

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01:19:16.800 --> 01:19:20.720
<v Speaker 14>from our military members, but we do art therapy, but

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01:19:20.800 --> 01:19:25.239
<v Speaker 14>by the end of the treatment, everybody's fully involved in that.

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01:19:25.359 --> 01:19:29.319
<v Speaker 12>It's one of our more popular things we do, equine therapy.

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01:19:29.760 --> 01:19:32.119
<v Speaker 14>We really just try to treat this holistically, you know,

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01:19:32.239 --> 01:19:35.640
<v Speaker 14>from the top down and see what what are your

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01:19:35.760 --> 01:19:38.319
<v Speaker 14>root causes, Where did this brain injury affect you the most,

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01:19:38.399 --> 01:19:38.880
<v Speaker 14>and how can we.

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01:19:38.920 --> 01:19:39.479
<v Speaker 12>Help you move on?

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01:19:39.840 --> 01:19:40.199
<v Speaker 9>All right?

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01:19:40.239 --> 01:19:43.039
<v Speaker 2>You guys have a gala coming up in February. Tell

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01:19:43.119 --> 01:19:45.720
<v Speaker 2>me about that and how people can get involved there.

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01:19:46.680 --> 01:19:49.880
<v Speaker 14>Yes, so this is our inaugural Hope for Heroes gala.

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01:19:50.640 --> 01:19:54.800
<v Speaker 14>It's February eighth, at six thirty pm. We're gonna do

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01:19:54.840 --> 01:19:56.960
<v Speaker 14>this at the Wings over the Rockies Air and Space

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01:19:57.079 --> 01:19:59.760
<v Speaker 14>Museum over there in the Lowry area.

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01:20:01.720 --> 01:20:03.680
<v Speaker 12>We I sorry.

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<v Speaker 14>Through our website, there is a link to the to

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01:20:07.920 --> 01:20:13.039
<v Speaker 14>the gala and tickets for attendance are one hundred dollars.

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01:20:14.000 --> 01:20:17.359
<v Speaker 14>Beyond that, if you are wanting to sponsor the event,

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01:20:18.359 --> 01:20:20.119
<v Speaker 14>help out in any kind of way, we have a

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01:20:20.199 --> 01:20:22.640
<v Speaker 14>sponsorship deck that runs all the way from one thousand

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01:20:22.680 --> 01:20:24.119
<v Speaker 14>to twenty five thousand dollars.

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01:20:25.279 --> 01:20:28.000
<v Speaker 12>And this type of event is just really important for us.

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01:20:28.159 --> 01:20:30.399
<v Speaker 12>Marcus Institute is completely philanthropic.

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01:20:31.119 --> 01:20:33.920
<v Speaker 14>That's how we have maintained to keep this as an

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01:20:33.960 --> 01:20:36.359
<v Speaker 14>out of pocket or no out of pocket costs for

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01:20:36.439 --> 01:20:37.039
<v Speaker 14>our veterans.

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01:20:37.880 --> 01:20:40.239
<v Speaker 12>So if anyone listening wants to come.

1539
01:20:40.119 --> 01:20:42.239
<v Speaker 14>And you know, dress up, have a couple of drinks

1540
01:20:42.279 --> 01:20:45.840
<v Speaker 14>with some other veterans, and do a silent live boxtion

1541
01:20:45.960 --> 01:20:49.079
<v Speaker 14>all the fun gala events, then please feel free.

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01:20:49.479 --> 01:20:51.800
<v Speaker 2>I do not see that on the Marcus Institute for

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01:20:51.840 --> 01:20:54.119
<v Speaker 2>Brain Health website right now. I don't know if I'm

1544
01:20:54.159 --> 01:20:56.600
<v Speaker 2>on the right site. Which which website are you talking about?

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01:20:57.640 --> 01:20:57.680
<v Speaker 7>It?

1546
01:20:57.800 --> 01:21:02.600
<v Speaker 12>Should it should be on our main website. There should

1547
01:21:02.640 --> 01:21:07.479
<v Speaker 12>be and sing your producer some material for that.

1548
01:21:07.760 --> 01:21:10.119
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I'll make sure I get that on the blog

1549
01:21:10.199 --> 01:21:13.920
<v Speaker 2>today and make sure if people want to buy tickets.

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01:21:13.960 --> 01:21:16.119
<v Speaker 2>You got a little bit of time, but February. We'll

1551
01:21:16.159 --> 01:21:18.159
<v Speaker 2>be here before you know it. And what a great

1552
01:21:18.199 --> 01:21:21.399
<v Speaker 2>thing to support. Javon Bear with the Marcus Institute for Brainhell.

1553
01:21:21.479 --> 01:21:22.960
<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much for your time today, man, I

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01:21:23.039 --> 01:21:23.760
<v Speaker 2>really appreciate it.

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01:21:24.279 --> 01:21:26.000
<v Speaker 12>Hey, I appreciate you having me on here. Thanks for

1556
01:21:26.119 --> 01:21:26.880
<v Speaker 12>let me talk about this.

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01:21:27.039 --> 01:21:29.960
<v Speaker 2>All right, Thanks Jevon. We'll see you again soon. I'm sure.

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01:21:30.640 --> 01:21:32.359
<v Speaker 12>Yes, please come my clinic sometime.

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01:21:32.520 --> 01:21:34.359
<v Speaker 2>I will for sure, I'm gonna come by and see

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01:21:34.359 --> 01:21:37.119
<v Speaker 2>what's going on. Thanks a lot, man, Bye bye. All right,

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01:21:37.119 --> 01:21:39.119
<v Speaker 2>we're gonna take a quick time out back after this.

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01:21:39.359 --> 01:21:42.079
<v Speaker 2>Keep it on, Koa. I have bad news for home owners,

1563
01:21:42.199 --> 01:21:44.760
<v Speaker 2>and I am one of these. I have enjoyed the

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01:21:45.039 --> 01:21:48.359
<v Speaker 2>explosive growth of home prices over the last few years.

1565
01:21:48.520 --> 01:21:51.960
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes prices went up as much as twenty percent in

1566
01:21:52.079 --> 01:21:54.920
<v Speaker 2>some areas in the Denver metro. That appears to be

1567
01:21:55.119 --> 01:22:00.840
<v Speaker 2>over now we're seeing about three percent growth inequity and

1568
01:22:01.439 --> 01:22:06.600
<v Speaker 2>the median home prices are coming down. Why interest rates?

1569
01:22:07.800 --> 01:22:12.479
<v Speaker 2>Interest rates are persistently sticky between six and seven percent.

1570
01:22:13.279 --> 01:22:16.479
<v Speaker 2>The treasury yield went up today, which means that mortgage

1571
01:22:16.520 --> 01:22:19.199
<v Speaker 2>rates will be affected. And if you don't understand why

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01:22:19.399 --> 01:22:23.680
<v Speaker 2>the treasury yield affects mortgage rates, it's because mortgages are

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01:22:23.720 --> 01:22:25.720
<v Speaker 2>not held by the people who write them. They are

1574
01:22:25.800 --> 01:22:30.039
<v Speaker 2>then sold as commodities, as an investment vehicle for other people.

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01:22:30.359 --> 01:22:32.439
<v Speaker 2>This is part of why the crisis of two thousand

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01:22:32.439 --> 01:22:35.039
<v Speaker 2>and eight was so devastating, because when people stop paying

1577
01:22:35.079 --> 01:22:39.039
<v Speaker 2>their mortgages, that has such a cascading effect throughout other investments.

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01:22:40.239 --> 01:22:45.319
<v Speaker 2>So treasury yields just went up. Until we really significantly

1579
01:22:45.479 --> 01:22:48.680
<v Speaker 2>do something about government spending, we're going to see mortgage

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01:22:48.760 --> 01:22:50.960
<v Speaker 2>rates I think between six and seven percent, and I

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01:22:51.000 --> 01:22:54.000
<v Speaker 2>would be shocked if mortgage rates got down to four

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01:22:54.119 --> 01:22:57.399
<v Speaker 2>percent in the next ten years. I don't think they're

1583
01:22:57.439 --> 01:23:01.359
<v Speaker 2>going back down, and are going to have to recognize

1584
01:23:02.399 --> 01:23:04.359
<v Speaker 2>that this has the new normal. And I hate the

1585
01:23:04.399 --> 01:23:06.720
<v Speaker 2>phrase the new normal because it's usually talking about something

1586
01:23:06.760 --> 01:23:10.600
<v Speaker 2>that kind of sucks. But traditionally, in the last fifty years,

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01:23:10.680 --> 01:23:13.960
<v Speaker 2>mortgage rates have been about seven percent. The issue that

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01:23:14.000 --> 01:23:17.000
<v Speaker 2>we're having now is that super low mortgage rates drove

1589
01:23:17.119 --> 01:23:20.800
<v Speaker 2>up home prices, so now you have people that are like, well,

1590
01:23:20.840 --> 01:23:23.399
<v Speaker 2>my home is worth eight hundred thousand dollars. Well it

1591
01:23:23.560 --> 01:23:26.199
<v Speaker 2>was when mortgage rates were two percent, but it might

1592
01:23:26.279 --> 01:23:28.680
<v Speaker 2>be worth seven to fifty now. So people are sitting

1593
01:23:28.720 --> 01:23:32.279
<v Speaker 2>on their homes. People are not willing to negotiate aggressively yet.

1594
01:23:32.359 --> 01:23:35.640
<v Speaker 2>I mean some people are. Of course, buyers are being

1595
01:23:35.800 --> 01:23:39.079
<v Speaker 2>super picky because they're being faced with much higher home

1596
01:23:39.159 --> 01:23:43.199
<v Speaker 2>payments because of mortgage rates. So it's just kind of

1597
01:23:43.279 --> 01:23:47.199
<v Speaker 2>a that part of the economy is stuck, and that

1598
01:23:47.359 --> 01:23:51.359
<v Speaker 2>part of the economy drives a whole bunch of other

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01:23:51.680 --> 01:23:57.800
<v Speaker 2>parts of the economy. Meaning you know, when you have furniture,

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01:23:58.079 --> 01:24:00.199
<v Speaker 2>when you have home improvement, when you have all of

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01:24:00.239 --> 01:24:03.840
<v Speaker 2>these things that people traditionally replace when they buy a

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01:24:03.880 --> 01:24:06.600
<v Speaker 2>new home, those things are not moving like they used to.

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01:24:07.600 --> 01:24:11.399
<v Speaker 2>So it has a very negative effect. And I don't see,

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01:24:11.800 --> 01:24:14.000
<v Speaker 2>Like I said, I would be shocked if mortgage rates

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01:24:14.039 --> 01:24:16.960
<v Speaker 2>dropped down to the force, something pretty amazing would have

1606
01:24:17.079 --> 01:24:19.479
<v Speaker 2>to happen, and that would mean that the economy would

1607
01:24:19.479 --> 01:24:23.720
<v Speaker 2>have to boom without inflation skyrocketing, and as we've learned,

1608
01:24:23.840 --> 01:24:26.159
<v Speaker 2>that's a very difficult thing to make happen. So that

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01:24:26.439 --> 01:24:31.359
<v Speaker 2>is on the blog today as well, TikTok may or

1610
01:24:31.479 --> 01:24:35.079
<v Speaker 2>may not be a thing. In the Supreme Court today,

1611
01:24:36.479 --> 01:24:40.640
<v Speaker 2>arguments were made in the case over the fate of TikTok.

1612
01:24:41.119 --> 01:24:44.439
<v Speaker 2>Congress has said that TikTok will have to divest itself

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01:24:45.039 --> 01:24:49.600
<v Speaker 2>from Chinese overlords, and that means sharing algorithms and everything

1614
01:24:49.640 --> 01:24:53.039
<v Speaker 2>else with someone else. And TikTok said today or yesterday

1615
01:24:53.720 --> 01:24:58.680
<v Speaker 2>that absent the Supreme Court ruling in their favor, this

1616
01:24:58.880 --> 01:25:02.159
<v Speaker 2>act will take effect on January nineteenth, twenty twenty five.

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01:25:02.680 --> 01:25:05.680
<v Speaker 2>That would shut down TikTok, one of the nation's most

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01:25:05.760 --> 01:25:08.680
<v Speaker 2>popular speech platforms for it's more than one hundred and

1619
01:25:08.840 --> 01:25:12.239
<v Speaker 2>seventy million domestic monthly users. On the eve of a

1620
01:25:12.359 --> 01:25:15.760
<v Speaker 2>presidential inauguration. Now, there's a lot in this threat, and

1621
01:25:15.880 --> 01:25:21.720
<v Speaker 2>that's what this is. This is clearly a threat designed

1622
01:25:21.880 --> 01:25:25.319
<v Speaker 2>to have people put pressure on the Supreme Court justices

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01:25:25.399 --> 01:25:27.800
<v Speaker 2>to rule in TikTok's favor. That's what TikTok's trying to

1624
01:25:27.840 --> 01:25:32.920
<v Speaker 2>do here. The reference to the presidential inauguration probably is

1625
01:25:33.000 --> 01:25:38.039
<v Speaker 2>also referencing Donald Trump coming into office, where Donald Trump

1626
01:25:38.039 --> 01:25:40.359
<v Speaker 2>has said he would protect TikTok, which is funny because

1627
01:25:40.359 --> 01:25:42.600
<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump said last time he would get rid of TikTok.

1628
01:25:42.680 --> 01:25:46.359
<v Speaker 2>So here we are, Here we are, you know. I

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01:25:46.920 --> 01:25:49.479
<v Speaker 2>One of the things that bothers me about Donald Trump

1630
01:25:50.800 --> 01:25:54.640
<v Speaker 2>is his apparent lack of principle. Like, you know, a

1631
01:25:54.680 --> 01:25:56.680
<v Speaker 2>lot of people are given Thomas Massey crap right now,

1632
01:25:56.800 --> 01:25:59.760
<v Speaker 2>but Thomas Massey is at least consistent in his value system.

1633
01:26:00.079 --> 01:26:02.159
<v Speaker 2>And you may disagree with it, but he is consistent

1634
01:26:02.520 --> 01:26:06.560
<v Speaker 2>in his value system. I'm not sure that politically, Donald

1635
01:26:06.600 --> 01:26:09.039
<v Speaker 2>Trump has a value system. He's a guy that's like,

1636
01:26:09.159 --> 01:26:11.479
<v Speaker 2>that's a good idea. That's a good idea, let's do that.

1637
01:26:11.800 --> 01:26:13.319
<v Speaker 2>And you know what, some of those ideas are really

1638
01:26:13.319 --> 01:26:17.239
<v Speaker 2>good ideas, but some of them are not. I still

1639
01:26:17.279 --> 01:26:20.520
<v Speaker 2>have security concerns about TikTok, and the fact that TikTok

1640
01:26:20.600 --> 01:26:23.119
<v Speaker 2>is basically like we're shutting it down rather than letting

1641
01:26:23.159 --> 01:26:25.239
<v Speaker 2>you have a look see into what's really in here

1642
01:26:25.600 --> 01:26:29.119
<v Speaker 2>to me indicates that those fears are well placed. I

1643
01:26:29.239 --> 01:26:33.760
<v Speaker 2>also think TikTok is making us way stupider, way stupider.

1644
01:26:35.039 --> 01:26:37.239
<v Speaker 2>So you know, for me, I guess it's like the

1645
01:26:37.359 --> 01:26:39.920
<v Speaker 2>crotchety old version of me going, I don't care if

1646
01:26:39.960 --> 01:26:41.640
<v Speaker 2>I get rid of these kids. But a lot of

1647
01:26:41.640 --> 01:26:44.359
<v Speaker 2>people make a lot of money on TikTok. So we'll

1648
01:26:44.399 --> 01:26:46.199
<v Speaker 2>see what happens. But how long have we been saying

1649
01:26:46.239 --> 01:26:47.800
<v Speaker 2>for the last year and a half that if you

1650
01:26:47.920 --> 01:26:50.359
<v Speaker 2>are a creator on TikTok, you better start building on

1651
01:26:50.439 --> 01:26:53.359
<v Speaker 2>other platforms. You have been warned. If you have not,

1652
01:26:53.960 --> 01:26:54.720
<v Speaker 2>that is your fault.

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01:26:55.079 --> 01:26:56.760
<v Speaker 3>At this time, it's not going anywhere for us. For

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01:26:56.880 --> 01:27:00.479
<v Speaker 3>like six months. We have multiple avenues rate to and roll.

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01:27:00.600 --> 01:27:02.720
<v Speaker 3>Number one, the app is probably gonna be on the

1656
01:27:02.720 --> 01:27:04.279
<v Speaker 3>phone for quite a while afterwards.

1657
01:27:04.640 --> 01:27:07.000
<v Speaker 2>Number two we'll be taken out of app stores. Oh no,

1658
01:27:07.159 --> 01:27:12.560
<v Speaker 2>wait a minute, Um, let's see that would shut down

1659
01:27:12.800 --> 01:27:14.039
<v Speaker 2>TikTok is what it says.

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01:27:14.439 --> 01:27:16.399
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we'll shut down. And then number two we're just

1661
01:27:16.439 --> 01:27:22.880
<v Speaker 3>gonna change our location paraphones to Canada. No, seriously, we've

1662
01:27:22.920 --> 01:27:25.560
<v Speaker 3>thought about this the dumbest thing, and we're going to

1663
01:27:25.600 --> 01:27:28.680
<v Speaker 3>buy a new polls dumbest thing, and we're going to

1664
01:27:28.920 --> 01:27:31.520
<v Speaker 3>find loopholes to keep using it.

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01:27:32.319 --> 01:27:33.439
<v Speaker 2>Uh huh uh huh.

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01:27:33.840 --> 01:27:37.600
<v Speaker 6>It's not going anywhere. They're gonna they're gonna last second, Well.

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01:27:37.520 --> 01:27:39.880
<v Speaker 2>It's the Supreme Court is gonna have to rule on

1668
01:27:40.000 --> 01:27:42.319
<v Speaker 2>whether or not it's constitutional to tell this company they

1669
01:27:42.359 --> 01:27:45.800
<v Speaker 2>have to sell or get out. I'm not sure. Honestly,

1670
01:27:45.840 --> 01:27:48.199
<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure the constitutionality of any of that. So

1671
01:27:48.279 --> 01:27:50.560
<v Speaker 2>I haven't given an opinion because I really don't know.

1672
01:27:51.640 --> 01:27:55.119
<v Speaker 2>I do not know the legality of what they've done.

1673
01:27:55.159 --> 01:27:58.560
<v Speaker 2>I have no clue. TikTok gave his campaign a buttload

1674
01:27:58.640 --> 01:28:01.800
<v Speaker 2>of money. Of course, for Trump, it's only a good

1675
01:28:01.840 --> 01:28:04.399
<v Speaker 2>idea politically if it benefits him personally. He says this Texter,

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01:28:04.680 --> 01:28:07.399
<v Speaker 2>I don't necessarily believe that. I really don't because I've

1677
01:28:07.520 --> 01:28:10.439
<v Speaker 2>talked to and interviewed a lot of people who've been

1678
01:28:10.479 --> 01:28:14.000
<v Speaker 2>in the room when policy discussions with President Trump were

1679
01:28:14.039 --> 01:28:18.680
<v Speaker 2>made during his first administration, and to a person, they said,

1680
01:28:18.760 --> 01:28:22.199
<v Speaker 2>on various issues unconnected to one another, that Donald Trump

1681
01:28:22.319 --> 01:28:25.159
<v Speaker 2>always asked how is this good for the American people?

1682
01:28:26.359 --> 01:28:31.159
<v Speaker 2>And that question alone is significant, I think, and demonstrates

1683
01:28:31.199 --> 01:28:33.640
<v Speaker 2>that though he may enjoy things that work to his

1684
01:28:33.720 --> 01:28:36.439
<v Speaker 2>best interests, I don't think he is completely self serving.

1685
01:28:36.520 --> 01:28:39.199
<v Speaker 2>I really do think that the man cares about this

1686
01:28:39.319 --> 01:28:41.840
<v Speaker 2>country and he is also self serving. Yes, some things

1687
01:28:41.880 --> 01:28:42.239
<v Speaker 2>can be true.

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01:28:42.279 --> 01:28:45.000
<v Speaker 3>At the same time, clarify, I did not mean leave

1689
01:28:45.039 --> 01:28:47.960
<v Speaker 3>the country. I literally mean change the phone's location. Oh,

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01:28:48.000 --> 01:28:48.960
<v Speaker 3>I know to Canada.

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01:28:49.000 --> 01:28:50.199
<v Speaker 6>I know, so we can keep using I know what

1692
01:28:50.319 --> 01:28:50.560
<v Speaker 6>you mean.

1693
01:28:50.720 --> 01:28:53.279
<v Speaker 3>Kevin O'Leary, mister wonderful will save the day they are

1694
01:28:53.359 --> 01:28:53.960
<v Speaker 3>forced to sell.

1695
01:28:54.479 --> 01:28:55.439
<v Speaker 6>Kevin O'Leary will buy it.

1696
01:28:55.560 --> 01:28:57.359
<v Speaker 2>Be fine, yeah, but then when I pull up Costco,

1697
01:28:57.439 --> 01:28:58.439
<v Speaker 2>it's going to try and have me go to a

1698
01:28:58.520 --> 01:28:59.920
<v Speaker 2>Costco in Canada. I'm not doing that.

1699
01:29:01.600 --> 01:29:04.279
<v Speaker 6>Kevin O'Leary, you've got this. The ball is in your court.

1700
01:29:04.359 --> 01:29:05.680
<v Speaker 2>We know he's trying to buy it. He wanted to

1701
01:29:05.720 --> 01:29:05.920
<v Speaker 2>buy it.

1702
01:29:06.079 --> 01:29:06.840
<v Speaker 6>No, that's what I'm saying.

1703
01:29:06.920 --> 01:29:09.039
<v Speaker 3>So when they are going to sell, if they are

1704
01:29:09.079 --> 01:29:11.000
<v Speaker 3>forced to sell too much money on the line, they

1705
01:29:11.039 --> 01:29:12.479
<v Speaker 3>won't just give up the US brand or so.

1706
01:29:12.680 --> 01:29:14.359
<v Speaker 2>Much well, that's what they're threatening the Supreme Court.

1707
01:29:14.640 --> 01:29:15.319
<v Speaker 6>There's so much money.

1708
01:29:15.439 --> 01:29:17.640
<v Speaker 2>If this is one of those things where I don't

1709
01:29:17.760 --> 01:29:21.119
<v Speaker 2>want the Supreme Court to make a political decision. And

1710
01:29:21.239 --> 01:29:24.239
<v Speaker 2>we didn't talk about the fact that Donald Trumps he

1711
01:29:24.359 --> 01:29:31.039
<v Speaker 2>was sentenced today for his absolutely ridiculous money whatever in

1712
01:29:31.159 --> 01:29:38.239
<v Speaker 2>New York. So he was sentenced today, and that sentencing

1713
01:29:39.119 --> 01:29:42.760
<v Speaker 2>was purely political. The entire trial was purely political. But

1714
01:29:42.840 --> 01:29:45.199
<v Speaker 2>the only reason they made sure they sentenced him today

1715
01:29:45.279 --> 01:29:48.520
<v Speaker 2>is because you're not truly a quote, convicted felon until

1716
01:29:48.520 --> 01:29:51.239
<v Speaker 2>you've been sentenced, right, and now they can appeal in

1717
01:29:51.239 --> 01:29:53.720
<v Speaker 2>all this stuff. But they did it for political reasons,

1718
01:29:53.960 --> 01:29:58.119
<v Speaker 2>and people were mad because the Supreme Court didn't shoot

1719
01:29:58.159 --> 01:30:02.560
<v Speaker 2>it down because it was political. But I don't want

1720
01:30:02.600 --> 01:30:06.439
<v Speaker 2>them to shoot it down because it's political unless they

1721
01:30:06.520 --> 01:30:09.600
<v Speaker 2>can say, we're shooting it down on the rule of law,

1722
01:30:10.079 --> 01:30:14.239
<v Speaker 2>and it was political. I want the Supreme Court to

1723
01:30:14.359 --> 01:30:18.039
<v Speaker 2>adhere to their version of the law. And I know

1724
01:30:18.079 --> 01:30:19.760
<v Speaker 2>a lot of people are angry at Amy Coney Barrett,

1725
01:30:20.199 --> 01:30:21.960
<v Speaker 2>but that was her version of the law. I want

1726
01:30:22.319 --> 01:30:26.680
<v Speaker 2>Supreme Court justices to rule using only the law, not

1727
01:30:26.880 --> 01:30:29.520
<v Speaker 2>taking into consideration the political nature of some of these things.

1728
01:30:30.199 --> 01:30:32.600
<v Speaker 2>So I was actually fine with that. A couple stories

1729
01:30:32.640 --> 01:30:35.960
<v Speaker 2>I want to get in here. Biden's trans heavy Title

1730
01:30:36.079 --> 01:30:42.600
<v Speaker 2>nine rules are deadded dead. A judge in Kentucky ruled

1731
01:30:42.640 --> 01:30:47.720
<v Speaker 2>the Federal Education Department's interpretation of what constitutes sex based

1732
01:30:47.800 --> 01:30:54.199
<v Speaker 2>misconduct was too broad and the rules violated the First Amendment.

1733
01:30:55.640 --> 01:30:59.199
<v Speaker 2>And so there's a zero percent chance that the Trump

1734
01:30:59.239 --> 01:31:03.359
<v Speaker 2>administration will defend these changes that did things that allowed

1735
01:31:03.399 --> 01:31:08.680
<v Speaker 2>men into women's spaces like locker rooms and onto women's teams.

1736
01:31:08.720 --> 01:31:11.399
<v Speaker 2>And if you complained about it, you were in trouble,

1737
01:31:11.439 --> 01:31:13.800
<v Speaker 2>which is where I think the First Amendment issues popped up.

1738
01:31:15.039 --> 01:31:17.680
<v Speaker 2>So that's good news for female athletes and women overall.

1739
01:31:19.479 --> 01:31:23.920
<v Speaker 2>Delta Airlines is getting a lot of kudos because there

1740
01:31:24.000 --> 01:31:27.720
<v Speaker 2>was a woman whose mother had been in the hospital

1741
01:31:27.840 --> 01:31:31.600
<v Speaker 2>with pneumonia and she was doing okay, and then she

1742
01:31:32.600 --> 01:31:36.920
<v Speaker 2>went into she got sepsis, and doctors called this woman

1743
01:31:37.159 --> 01:31:39.359
<v Speaker 2>and said, you need to come see your mom. We're

1744
01:31:39.359 --> 01:31:41.560
<v Speaker 2>not sure how much time she has left. She was

1745
01:31:41.760 --> 01:31:45.560
<v Speaker 2>leaving her hometown, had to fly through Minnesota. They were

1746
01:31:45.640 --> 01:31:49.119
<v Speaker 2>late because of a mechanical leaving her hometown to fly

1747
01:31:49.239 --> 01:31:51.079
<v Speaker 2>to Minnesota, so she was going to miss her connection,

1748
01:31:51.520 --> 01:31:53.119
<v Speaker 2>and she was told by the flight attendant that they

1749
01:31:53.159 --> 01:31:56.560
<v Speaker 2>would rebook her for the next day. Well, she was

1750
01:31:56.600 --> 01:31:58.039
<v Speaker 2>afraid she wasn't going to be able to see her

1751
01:31:58.079 --> 01:32:01.000
<v Speaker 2>mom before she died. She built the flight attendant this

1752
01:32:01.079 --> 01:32:04.399
<v Speaker 2>and said, I'm gonna I might miss my last chance

1753
01:32:04.439 --> 01:32:06.000
<v Speaker 2>to see my mom. Well, the flight attention, she said

1754
01:32:06.000 --> 01:32:08.680
<v Speaker 2>the flight attendant. They cried together. Flight attendant goes up,

1755
01:32:08.760 --> 01:32:12.640
<v Speaker 2>talks to the pilot. The pilot calls, you know, traffic

1756
01:32:12.720 --> 01:32:16.520
<v Speaker 2>control and says, we got this situation, and Delta held

1757
01:32:17.560 --> 01:32:20.680
<v Speaker 2>her connecting flight for her for thirty minutes so she

1758
01:32:20.760 --> 01:32:23.720
<v Speaker 2>could make the flight. Now, you have to understand, when

1759
01:32:23.760 --> 01:32:27.079
<v Speaker 2>an airline shows up late, it dings them with the

1760
01:32:27.239 --> 01:32:29.439
<v Speaker 2>FAA and it goes against their on time rating. So

1761
01:32:29.520 --> 01:32:32.039
<v Speaker 2>it's not a no big deal thing to say, we're

1762
01:32:32.079 --> 01:32:35.159
<v Speaker 2>going to make this plane late. But because they did that,

1763
01:32:35.319 --> 01:32:37.399
<v Speaker 2>she made her connection, got to see her mom before

1764
01:32:37.439 --> 01:32:40.640
<v Speaker 2>she died. And everybody's singing Delta's praise. But guys, this

1765
01:32:40.800 --> 01:32:42.560
<v Speaker 2>is not the first time I am aware of something

1766
01:32:42.680 --> 01:32:44.840
<v Speaker 2>like this. Happened when I was a flight attendant back

1767
01:32:44.840 --> 01:32:47.439
<v Speaker 2>in the nineteen nineties. We had a very similar situation.

1768
01:32:48.000 --> 01:32:52.520
<v Speaker 2>We got stuck in a weather hold above an airport

1769
01:32:52.640 --> 01:32:55.199
<v Speaker 2>and ended up circling for about an hour. And this

1770
01:32:55.359 --> 01:32:57.520
<v Speaker 2>guy was going to miss his flight, and he was

1771
01:32:57.600 --> 01:33:01.039
<v Speaker 2>flying home because his wife had gone into very premature

1772
01:33:01.159 --> 01:33:03.359
<v Speaker 2>labor and they were going to be delivering that baby

1773
01:33:03.520 --> 01:33:06.720
<v Speaker 2>and they wanted him to be there. So Delta same thing,

1774
01:33:06.800 --> 01:33:09.600
<v Speaker 2>called ahead and held the guy's connecting flight for him

1775
01:33:09.880 --> 01:33:11.479
<v Speaker 2>so he could be there for the birth of his child.

1776
01:33:11.520 --> 01:33:13.640
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if he made it, you know, I

1777
01:33:13.720 --> 01:33:16.880
<v Speaker 2>never knew the follow up story on that one. Maybe

1778
01:33:16.880 --> 01:33:18.720
<v Speaker 2>if there'd been social media, we would have been able

1779
01:33:18.760 --> 01:33:20.479
<v Speaker 2>to find out. But back then, I mean, you know,

1780
01:33:21.039 --> 01:33:22.800
<v Speaker 2>you just you don't know what happened. You didn't get

1781
01:33:22.800 --> 01:33:25.439
<v Speaker 2>to know the end of the story. So good on

1782
01:33:25.640 --> 01:33:29.920
<v Speaker 2>Delta Airlines for having a heart on that one interesting story. Arod,

1783
01:33:29.960 --> 01:33:32.920
<v Speaker 2>did you see this that the Broncos are considering a

1784
01:33:33.159 --> 01:33:35.199
<v Speaker 2>Lone Tree stadium site.

1785
01:33:35.479 --> 01:33:38.640
<v Speaker 6>Yes, I would love it.

1786
01:33:38.840 --> 01:33:39.880
<v Speaker 9>I know you would.

1787
01:33:40.239 --> 01:33:42.319
<v Speaker 2>You know I would because it was right there.

1788
01:33:42.720 --> 01:33:44.720
<v Speaker 6>The Broncos would love it because it's close to everything.

1789
01:33:44.720 --> 01:33:47.640
<v Speaker 2>They've got the facility and there's a crap ton of

1790
01:33:47.680 --> 01:33:50.199
<v Speaker 2>empty land down there. Crap ton.

1791
01:33:50.479 --> 01:33:55.960
<v Speaker 3>I think it's just another little check mark exploring options.

1792
01:33:55.960 --> 01:34:00.800
<v Speaker 3>I don't think it's I think it's based on absolutely nothing.

1793
01:34:00.960 --> 01:34:05.279
<v Speaker 3>I think it's airport area or current site. Airport area sucks, No,

1794
01:34:05.560 --> 01:34:08.880
<v Speaker 3>airport area is perfect. No, but air World two point

1795
01:34:08.960 --> 01:34:13.920
<v Speaker 3>zero for everything else. But Jerry will money, money, money, so.

1796
01:34:14.039 --> 01:34:17.159
<v Speaker 2>Much exponential growth. This way, that way you make it

1797
01:34:17.239 --> 01:34:20.239
<v Speaker 2>easier for people who are in the Springs Monument, Pueblo,

1798
01:34:21.159 --> 01:34:21.800
<v Speaker 2>the games.

1799
01:34:21.760 --> 01:34:22.439
<v Speaker 6>North towards me.

1800
01:34:22.840 --> 01:34:24.760
<v Speaker 9>What what is east of of you?

1801
01:34:24.960 --> 01:34:25.119
<v Speaker 3>Though?

1802
01:34:25.319 --> 01:34:27.720
<v Speaker 2>See what I'm saying, Like the the two metro areas

1803
01:34:27.800 --> 01:34:31.560
<v Speaker 2>Colorado Springs and Denver are growing together. That is as happening.

1804
01:34:31.560 --> 01:34:36.840
<v Speaker 2>We're growing up down there. Okay, no, nope, nope, Ay, Rod,

1805
01:34:36.920 --> 01:34:39.840
<v Speaker 2>How do we change phone location? Like iPhone to listen

1806
01:34:40.239 --> 01:34:41.640
<v Speaker 2>to Broncos games in Hawaii?

1807
01:34:42.560 --> 01:34:43.159
<v Speaker 9>How do they do that?

1808
01:34:43.359 --> 01:34:43.960
<v Speaker 6>I can't tell you that.

1809
01:34:44.359 --> 01:34:46.279
<v Speaker 2>Why not? All they have to do is change the location?

1810
01:34:46.359 --> 01:34:47.479
<v Speaker 2>How do you change your phone's location?

1811
01:34:47.800 --> 01:34:52.199
<v Speaker 6>Talking about what? I don't know if it's gonna be possible.

1812
01:34:52.199 --> 01:34:55.000
<v Speaker 6>We'll see. We're gonna try. Yeah, we're gonna try.

1813
01:34:55.039 --> 01:34:56.359
<v Speaker 3>We're still gonna have a long time for it's off

1814
01:34:56.399 --> 01:35:00.279
<v Speaker 3>the app store because deleted Beloney VPN will do feet

1815
01:35:00.279 --> 01:35:03.439
<v Speaker 3>of ban Oh yeah, absolutely, that's what we're likely have

1816
01:35:03.640 --> 01:35:05.479
<v Speaker 3>to do, is the way to change location.

1817
01:35:05.600 --> 01:35:08.039
<v Speaker 6>But the problem is that would probably deactively a lot

1818
01:35:08.079 --> 01:35:08.880
<v Speaker 6>of our other apps.

1819
01:35:09.119 --> 01:35:11.920
<v Speaker 3>So problems are going to arise. But it's okay because

1820
01:35:12.000 --> 01:35:13.640
<v Speaker 3>Kevin o'larry's gonna solve the day.

1821
01:35:13.840 --> 01:35:15.399
<v Speaker 2>You know what, I love Kevin O'Leary, but I think

1822
01:35:15.439 --> 01:35:17.239
<v Speaker 2>you're giving him a wee bit too much credit for

1823
01:35:17.520 --> 01:35:18.600
<v Speaker 2>saving the day when it comes.

1824
01:35:18.640 --> 01:35:21.520
<v Speaker 3>Oh no, him and him and the crew are like

1825
01:35:21.920 --> 01:35:24.000
<v Speaker 3>got the change right, They just need TikTok to give

1826
01:35:24.039 --> 01:35:24.520
<v Speaker 3>the okay, to.

1827
01:35:24.560 --> 01:35:25.640
<v Speaker 6>Sell one more last thing.

1828
01:35:25.680 --> 01:35:27.079
<v Speaker 2>I got a bunch of really good stuff from the

1829
01:35:27.119 --> 01:35:30.239
<v Speaker 2>blog today that we didn't get to, including the mayor

1830
01:35:30.439 --> 01:35:34.039
<v Speaker 2>of Los Angeles. When being pressed on her role and

1831
01:35:34.119 --> 01:35:36.640
<v Speaker 2>how bad she's doing, she literally was like, you know what,

1832
01:35:36.880 --> 01:35:40.279
<v Speaker 2>we're not going to point fingers. There's plenty of time

1833
01:35:40.680 --> 01:35:43.880
<v Speaker 2>to really look at all that later. Let's not point

1834
01:35:43.960 --> 01:35:46.479
<v Speaker 2>fingers Grant Smith, who just walked in there in the studio.

1835
01:35:46.560 --> 01:35:48.479
<v Speaker 6>I guess all the fingers would be pointed at her.

1836
01:35:48.680 --> 01:35:49.039
<v Speaker 11>Correct.

1837
01:35:50.199 --> 01:35:50.640
<v Speaker 2>Correct.

1838
01:35:51.520 --> 01:35:53.399
<v Speaker 6>It is a sad situation out there, though.

1839
01:35:53.359 --> 01:35:53.560
<v Speaker 1>It is.

1840
01:35:53.720 --> 01:36:00.159
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's just devastating. I can't even imagine. And now, okay, hey,

1841
01:36:00.239 --> 01:36:03.760
<v Speaker 2>this trend of young people no offense, Grant and a

1842
01:36:03.920 --> 01:36:08.279
<v Speaker 2>rod of putting themselves on the internet crying. I hate it.

1843
01:36:08.520 --> 01:36:11.680
<v Speaker 2>But the people putting their self on the internet crying

1844
01:36:11.720 --> 01:36:17.840
<v Speaker 2>about losing everything is heartbreaking. I mean heartbreaking. And everybody's

1845
01:36:17.840 --> 01:36:20.359
<v Speaker 2>focusing on the celebrities, but a vast majority look at

1846
01:36:20.399 --> 01:36:22.640
<v Speaker 2>that on TV right now, an entire neighborhood just gone.

1847
01:36:23.399 --> 01:36:25.760
<v Speaker 2>The vast majority of these people are not celebrities. They're

1848
01:36:25.880 --> 01:36:29.680
<v Speaker 2>just normal people who have nothing, absolutely nothing.

1849
01:36:29.840 --> 01:36:31.920
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I think that is I saw a post the

1850
01:36:31.960 --> 01:36:33.920
<v Speaker 5>other day about how it was kind of highlighting all

1851
01:36:33.960 --> 01:36:36.399
<v Speaker 5>the celebrities and how it was kind of making people

1852
01:36:38.000 --> 01:36:42.239
<v Speaker 5>not as sympathetic sympathetic because you're not showing the average, average,

1853
01:36:42.239 --> 01:36:43.520
<v Speaker 5>everyday person going through it.

1854
01:36:43.600 --> 01:36:46.760
<v Speaker 6>I think that would be much more compelling. Yeah, well,

1855
01:36:46.800 --> 01:36:47.359
<v Speaker 6>I've seen.

1856
01:36:47.199 --> 01:36:48.880
<v Speaker 3>In all the videos I've seen, people are also saying,

1857
01:36:48.920 --> 01:36:50.119
<v Speaker 3>I'm hello North Carolina.

1858
01:36:50.399 --> 01:36:51.760
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, well, all these things happen.

1859
01:36:53.079 --> 01:36:55.119
<v Speaker 2>This is going to be really well, it's happening right now.

1860
01:36:55.439 --> 01:36:57.520
<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's it. But let me tell you something.

1861
01:36:57.600 --> 01:37:02.079
<v Speaker 2>In six months, when we see a series of big

1862
01:37:02.239 --> 01:37:06.159
<v Speaker 2>Hollywood fundraisers to help the people in Los Angeles, that's

1863
01:37:06.199 --> 01:37:07.680
<v Speaker 2>when you're gonna start here in a lot of the

1864
01:37:07.800 --> 01:37:10.239
<v Speaker 2>what about North Carolina? Because people are still living in

1865
01:37:10.319 --> 01:37:15.760
<v Speaker 2>freaking tents in North Carolina right now. So it's I mean,

1866
01:37:15.840 --> 01:37:19.000
<v Speaker 2>this has just been devastation. And I last night I

1867
01:37:19.079 --> 01:37:21.479
<v Speaker 2>left the grocery store. I was able to get eggs.

1868
01:37:21.960 --> 01:37:23.399
<v Speaker 2>I was able to get the things that I need,

1869
01:37:23.520 --> 01:37:24.880
<v Speaker 2>and I got in my car and I drove to

1870
01:37:24.960 --> 01:37:26.560
<v Speaker 2>my house, which was still standing, and I took a

1871
01:37:26.600 --> 01:37:29.239
<v Speaker 2>little moment and I said a little gratitude prayer just

1872
01:37:29.439 --> 01:37:32.800
<v Speaker 2>for that, Yeah, just because I could get what I needed.

1873
01:37:33.119 --> 01:37:35.720
<v Speaker 2>I drove home to my house. My family is safe,

1874
01:37:36.000 --> 01:37:38.479
<v Speaker 2>and there are people in California that cannot say that today.

1875
01:37:38.920 --> 01:37:41.119
<v Speaker 2>So if you are a grateful sort, or maybe you're

1876
01:37:41.119 --> 01:37:43.239
<v Speaker 2>not a grateful sort, that is something to be grateful

1877
01:37:43.279 --> 01:37:46.680
<v Speaker 2>for right there. I'm grateful because it's Friday, and now

1878
01:37:46.760 --> 01:37:49.399
<v Speaker 2>it's time for the most exciting segment all the radio.

1879
01:37:49.479 --> 01:37:49.600
<v Speaker 9>Love.

1880
01:37:49.680 --> 01:37:55.920
<v Speaker 2>It's Kinde and the world love that day. Very good grants,

1881
01:37:56.000 --> 01:37:56.680
<v Speaker 2>thank you, very good.

1882
01:37:56.880 --> 01:37:58.720
<v Speaker 5>I was going to try and do a Rob Dawson impression,

1883
01:37:58.760 --> 01:37:59.760
<v Speaker 5>but I don't think anyone will.

1884
01:38:02.600 --> 01:38:07.920
<v Speaker 2>It's like somebody batteries are running out exactly. Thank goodness

1885
01:38:08.000 --> 01:38:08.159
<v Speaker 2>for that.

1886
01:38:09.000 --> 01:38:10.279
<v Speaker 6>I mean we could use a couple.

1887
01:38:10.479 --> 01:38:12.720
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I actually that would be kind of fun.

1888
01:38:12.960 --> 01:38:14.840
<v Speaker 2>What is our dad joke of the day.

1889
01:38:15.279 --> 01:38:17.399
<v Speaker 6>What do you call a cougar that gets so old

1890
01:38:18.000 --> 01:38:19.000
<v Speaker 6>that they need a hearing aid?

1891
01:38:20.319 --> 01:38:22.079
<v Speaker 2>Cougar that gets so old?

1892
01:38:22.319 --> 01:38:23.199
<v Speaker 6>I love this one.

1893
01:38:23.760 --> 01:38:25.159
<v Speaker 2>It needs a hearyaid?

1894
01:38:25.600 --> 01:38:26.920
<v Speaker 9>What death?

1895
01:38:28.880 --> 01:38:31.800
<v Speaker 2>I think we just had that fairly recently. I've heard

1896
01:38:31.840 --> 01:38:34.000
<v Speaker 2>that Joe fairly. I couldn't remember the name.

1897
01:38:33.840 --> 01:38:34.680
<v Speaker 6>Of mine, don't care.

1898
01:38:34.760 --> 01:38:36.399
<v Speaker 2>What is our word of the day, please?

1899
01:38:37.640 --> 01:38:43.239
<v Speaker 13>A noun novation not innovation, novation n O V A

1900
01:38:43.359 --> 01:38:46.039
<v Speaker 13>t I O n something novation.

1901
01:38:47.039 --> 01:38:49.800
<v Speaker 2>A novation is just an invention. It's it's a it's

1902
01:38:49.880 --> 01:38:51.039
<v Speaker 2>something that's been invented.

1903
01:38:51.880 --> 01:38:55.479
<v Speaker 6>Grant. I'm gonna stick with Mandy on that one good call.

1904
01:38:55.720 --> 01:38:56.960
<v Speaker 6>The introduction of something new.

1905
01:38:59.199 --> 01:39:00.680
<v Speaker 2>Just pulled that out of my kazoo, if you.

1906
01:39:00.680 --> 01:39:01.199
<v Speaker 9>Know what I mean.

1907
01:39:01.600 --> 01:39:05.800
<v Speaker 2>Which US state's official state flag features a golden ship

1908
01:39:05.880 --> 01:39:09.680
<v Speaker 2>anchor surrounded by thirteen gold stars. I think I know it,

1909
01:39:09.760 --> 01:39:10.479
<v Speaker 2>but I'm not sure.

1910
01:39:10.760 --> 01:39:12.680
<v Speaker 5>It's got to be one of the original ones, right

1911
01:39:12.720 --> 01:39:15.880
<v Speaker 5>if there yeah, thirteen stars Massachusetts.

1912
01:39:16.199 --> 01:39:19.920
<v Speaker 2>See, it's either that or a Rhode Island. So I don't.

1913
01:39:20.159 --> 01:39:22.079
<v Speaker 2>I think it's Rhode Island because I think and it

1914
01:39:22.199 --> 01:39:25.000
<v Speaker 2>is Rhode Island. The stars represents the first thirteen states

1915
01:39:25.039 --> 01:39:27.640
<v Speaker 2>in eighteen ninety seven. Rhode Island became the last of

1916
01:39:27.760 --> 01:39:30.000
<v Speaker 2>the first thirteen states to adopt a flag.

1917
01:39:30.279 --> 01:39:31.560
<v Speaker 6>So they're love Rhode Island.

1918
01:39:31.640 --> 01:39:33.840
<v Speaker 2>I do too, very very pretty except in the winter

1919
01:39:33.920 --> 01:39:38.760
<v Speaker 2>it's cold and miserable anyway, and if you're inside, it's fantastic.

1920
01:39:39.039 --> 01:39:40.279
<v Speaker 6>And you can get anywhere in the state in like

1921
01:39:40.359 --> 01:39:41.520
<v Speaker 6>half exactly.

1922
01:39:42.119 --> 01:39:45.880
<v Speaker 2>It's like driving a Bucke's anyway. What is our jeopardy category?

1923
01:39:45.920 --> 01:39:47.880
<v Speaker 6>Please er all are invited.

1924
01:39:48.800 --> 01:39:53.760
<v Speaker 3>All are invited, All ages are allowed at movies rated G.

1925
01:39:54.079 --> 01:39:57.600
<v Speaker 2>The G is short for this Mandy, what is general audience?

1926
01:39:57.920 --> 01:39:58.119
<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

1927
01:39:58.159 --> 01:39:59.239
<v Speaker 6>Pretty much general? Correct?

1928
01:39:59.399 --> 01:39:59.720
<v Speaker 10>Correct?

1929
01:40:00.359 --> 01:40:03.039
<v Speaker 6>Any citizen can sit in this part of the Senate

1930
01:40:03.119 --> 01:40:03.960
<v Speaker 6>and watch the action.

1931
01:40:04.119 --> 01:40:05.039
<v Speaker 2>Andy, what is a gallery?

1932
01:40:05.199 --> 01:40:05.920
<v Speaker 6>That is correct?

1933
01:40:06.359 --> 01:40:09.119
<v Speaker 3>Wait, so do that, I'll start with G. No, just

1934
01:40:09.199 --> 01:40:12.680
<v Speaker 3>like talking about invited. Okay, yeah, got ten thousand dollars.

1935
01:40:12.760 --> 01:40:14.640
<v Speaker 3>You can compete in the main events of this card

1936
01:40:14.720 --> 01:40:16.039
<v Speaker 3>competition in Vegas.

1937
01:40:18.039 --> 01:40:21.479
<v Speaker 6>Grant, grant? What is a world series of pokers? That

1938
01:40:21.600 --> 01:40:26.880
<v Speaker 6>is correct? There we got grand You are too popular.

1939
01:40:27.039 --> 01:40:29.119
<v Speaker 3>You can only invite seven hundred and fifty people at

1940
01:40:29.119 --> 01:40:32.560
<v Speaker 3>a time for this web based RSVP service.

1941
01:40:35.039 --> 01:40:35.760
<v Speaker 2>That's correct.

1942
01:40:36.159 --> 01:40:39.680
<v Speaker 3>And finally, any member of the World Science Fiction Society

1943
01:40:39.800 --> 01:40:42.720
<v Speaker 3>can vote for this literary award, which has led to

1944
01:40:42.880 --> 01:40:43.800
<v Speaker 3>some drama.

1945
01:40:45.399 --> 01:40:50.560
<v Speaker 2>The oh is it the the Highland Nanny the Highland Award? Wrong?

1946
01:40:51.760 --> 01:40:52.000
<v Speaker 9>Tie?

1947
01:40:52.199 --> 01:40:54.760
<v Speaker 2>I have no idea any literary awards?

1948
01:40:54.840 --> 01:40:59.119
<v Speaker 6>What is the Hue Awards that I have been reading

1949
01:40:59.159 --> 01:40:59.760
<v Speaker 6>some science fiction?

1950
01:41:00.680 --> 01:41:01.319
<v Speaker 9>What reading?

1951
01:41:01.720 --> 01:41:05.000
<v Speaker 6>I'm reading this book called book Eaters right now.

1952
01:41:05.159 --> 01:41:05.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

1953
01:41:05.399 --> 01:41:10.439
<v Speaker 5>It's about this humanoid race that eats books and they

1954
01:41:10.520 --> 01:41:13.840
<v Speaker 5>get all the knowledge of humanity and I don't know

1955
01:41:13.920 --> 01:41:16.119
<v Speaker 5>what's going to happen next, but I'm super interested in it.

1956
01:41:16.239 --> 01:41:20.239
<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm thinking about going back and revisiting the Circle

1957
01:41:20.319 --> 01:41:22.239
<v Speaker 2>World Discworld series by Terry Frather.

1958
01:41:22.439 --> 01:41:24.640
<v Speaker 6>You know what I've read recently that was really good,

1959
01:41:25.279 --> 01:41:26.399
<v Speaker 6>Project Hail Mary.

1960
01:41:26.800 --> 01:41:27.359
<v Speaker 3>Have you heard of this?

1961
01:41:28.199 --> 01:41:30.640
<v Speaker 5>It's going to be a movie, and I think this year.

1962
01:41:30.920 --> 01:41:33.159
<v Speaker 5>It's about this guy that kind of has to go

1963
01:41:33.359 --> 01:41:36.399
<v Speaker 5>to space to save humanity and then he meets up

1964
01:41:36.439 --> 01:41:38.079
<v Speaker 5>with an alien. But I don't want to. I don't

1965
01:41:38.079 --> 01:41:41.439
<v Speaker 5>want to spoil too much. What's called Project Hail Mary.

1966
01:41:41.840 --> 01:41:43.000
<v Speaker 5>It is an amazing book.

1967
01:41:43.039 --> 01:41:44.920
<v Speaker 2>All right. This book review brought to you by Mandy

1968
01:41:44.960 --> 01:41:45.279
<v Speaker 2>and Grant.

1969
01:41:45.319 --> 01:41:45.720
<v Speaker 3>There you go.

1970
01:41:46.520 --> 01:41:48.439
<v Speaker 2>We will be back Monday. Everyone have a happy and

1971
01:41:48.600 --> 01:41:51.520
<v Speaker 2>safe weekend. If you're going skiing, especially back country skiing,

1972
01:41:51.800 --> 01:41:53.079
<v Speaker 2>please be careful for avalanche.

1973
01:41:53.199 --> 01:41:56.520
<v Speaker 5>By the way, we've got a former Broncos quarterback, Jake Plumber,

1974
01:41:56.600 --> 01:41:59.239
<v Speaker 5>coming on Bronco Aro on KOA Sports here in about

1975
01:41:59.279 --> 01:42:01.079
<v Speaker 5>an hour, so make sure you're tune in for that.

1976
01:42:01.279 --> 01:42:02.720
<v Speaker 2>I need his contact. I want to get him on

1977
01:42:02.800 --> 01:42:03.760
<v Speaker 2>to talk about mushrooms.

1978
01:42:04.560 --> 01:42:06.119
<v Speaker 6>Yes, and go listen to my podcast.

1979
01:42:06.359 --> 01:42:09.039
<v Speaker 2>I will this week on the Taking for Granted podcast.

1980
01:42:09.119 --> 01:42:12.079
<v Speaker 5>So we've been on hiatus, but we're celebrating the fifth year,

1981
01:42:12.359 --> 01:42:15.079
<v Speaker 5>going into the fifth year of the podcast on Monday

1982
01:42:15.479 --> 01:42:16.359
<v Speaker 5>with my brother who.

1983
01:42:16.359 --> 01:42:17.239
<v Speaker 6>Was the original guest.

1984
01:42:17.720 --> 01:42:18.920
<v Speaker 12>I'm going to be talking about.

1985
01:42:18.680 --> 01:42:21.600
<v Speaker 5>His new baby and the circle. Yeah, I'm pretty excited

1986
01:42:21.640 --> 01:42:22.359
<v Speaker 5>to get back into it.

1987
01:42:22.600 --> 01:42:25.000
<v Speaker 2>All right, that's all coming up this weekend. You'll be

1988
01:42:25.039 --> 01:42:26.680
<v Speaker 2>able to listen to that on Monday. Keep it right

1989
01:42:26.720 --> 01:42:28.399
<v Speaker 2>here for KA Sports coming up next