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<v Speaker 1>Hello, and welcome to Deep Blue see the podcast. On

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<v Speaker 1>this show, we've been to the entire Deep Boosy trilogy.

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<v Speaker 1>Scene by scene we're doing again, but not today. Today

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<v Speaker 1>we are continuing our Year of Reptiles twenty twenty six

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<v Speaker 1>ye Reptiles with a film we were planning to cover

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<v Speaker 1>eightes ago. Like the first season, I think we talked.

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<v Speaker 1>We talked about like let's do rogue at some point

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<v Speaker 1>and even before with size reptiles, and now just a

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<v Speaker 1>short five years later, we're finally tackling rogue. What is

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<v Speaker 1>rogue or it is another two thousand and seven Australian

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<v Speaker 1>creature feature. We've already covered God what Blackwater Blackwater very recently,

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<v Speaker 1>but this one is written directed by Greg McLean, stars

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Vartan, Roder Mitchell, Sam Worthington and a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>smaller characters, and we'll get into all of them, I'm sure.

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<v Speaker 1>And it mainly follows a American travel journalist Pete played

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<v Speaker 1>by Michael Vartan. He is writing an article about Australia

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<v Speaker 1>in some capacity. He takes a tourist river cruise, Ryan's

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<v Speaker 1>Wildlife River Cruise with a bunch of other tourists and

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<v Speaker 1>they encounter a big crocodile and hilarity ensues. So I

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<v Speaker 1>have a guest today who picked this film. I had

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<v Speaker 1>never seen this before, so I was thrilled to watch

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<v Speaker 1>a new film. She's joining us for the eighth time,

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<v Speaker 1>joining the eight eight timers club. It's Jessica Manzi Kai

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<v Speaker 1>jess welcome back to the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for having me back. I can't believe we're

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<v Speaker 2>finally recording about Rogue, which is the movie that I've

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<v Speaker 2>somewhat inexplicably been bringing up over and over again as

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<v Speaker 2>an option to watch. And I don't know why. I

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<v Speaker 2>know you. I actually looked up in my email history

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<v Speaker 2>how long this we'd been talking about Rogue, and it

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<v Speaker 2>was in twenty twenty one when you sent out an

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<v Speaker 2>initial list of Deep Blue Sea adjacent movies and I

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<v Speaker 2>threw out, we could do Rogue or I could do

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<v Speaker 2>forty seven meters down and I was like, wow, the

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<v Speaker 2>lore of my podcast appearances are all And I also

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<v Speaker 2>brought up Sphere, so yeah, so we've done episodes about

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<v Speaker 2>all of those, and I think I just randomly was like, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I saw Rogue ones that could be fun to revisit.

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<v Speaker 2>And then for five years. It's just kept coming up

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<v Speaker 2>again and again and watching the movie, I go, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't remember this movie at all. I don't know why.

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<v Speaker 2>I definitely saw it because when I will, I looked

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<v Speaker 2>up my letterbox. I had recorded it in twenty thirteen,

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<v Speaker 2>but I had not retained barely anything of the movie.

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<v Speaker 2>I knew about the like riverboat cruise part, but the

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<v Speaker 2>actual like action of the movie I did not remember

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<v Speaker 2>at all, So it felt very fresh nice.

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<v Speaker 1>We also covered the lighthouse shark exclamation mark in Perana

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<v Speaker 1>three D since in that time as well. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we just keep on putting off covering Coming Rogue. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know why, because I loved this film. Just this

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<v Speaker 1>is we've covered. We're not recording these episodes of orders

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<v Speaker 1>as if we ever did with anything. But I said

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<v Speaker 1>on a recent recording that I needed to watch a

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<v Speaker 1>good film soon, because we've been covering nothing but less

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<v Speaker 1>good films. I did not enjoy Blackwater. Have you watched Blackwater?

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<v Speaker 2>No? Don't even remember.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's have you seen open Water the Shark? No?

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<v Speaker 2>But I know the concept.

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<v Speaker 1>Blackwater is open water with the crocodile. Basically, it's like

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<v Speaker 1>three people get stuck up a tree near a crocodile,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we just hang out with them for an

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<v Speaker 1>hour and a half and it's boring. It's very boring.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't enjoy it. I don't want realism in my

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<v Speaker 1>creature pictures. I want fun and entertainment and lots of

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<v Speaker 1>characters to be that can be killed, and action sequences

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<v Speaker 1>and tension, not just well, I guess we're stuck here

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<v Speaker 1>for an hour. We could go over there and over there.

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<v Speaker 2>That's pretty good considering this movie also involves people kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like stranded trying to figure something out.

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<v Speaker 1>Crucially, there's more of them and they do stuff. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So I was overjoyed because I didn't know. All I

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<v Speaker 1>knew was crocodile. That's all I knew going into this.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know who was in it, who made it

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<v Speaker 1>anything at all, And so I was very happy when

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<v Speaker 1>he got on a boat with more than two other

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<v Speaker 1>people on it, and there's like colorful characters and personalities

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<v Speaker 1>on there. And I paused the film a little early

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<v Speaker 1>on being like, Okay, this is who I think is

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<v Speaker 1>very wrong, very very wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I had some few people who when they died,

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<v Speaker 2>I was surprised that they went out when they did.

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<v Speaker 1>I was more surprised by who survived. I think there's

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<v Speaker 1>a character like you. Hmm. There's a couple of you

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<v Speaker 1>who have just said we should kill that dog. So

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like you should die, you should be dead

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<v Speaker 1>in this film, and you're alive at the end. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>to be fair, we see a bunch of them just

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<v Speaker 1>so who knows what's eating them in there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I definitely thought at least two people were going

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<v Speaker 2>to die who didn't, So that that did keep me

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<v Speaker 2>on my toes because I feel like these sorts of

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<v Speaker 2>movies you can kind of pick out, Oh, they're kind

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<v Speaker 2>of setting this person up to be very easy to

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<v Speaker 2>kill off without hurting the audience too much. But this one,

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<v Speaker 2>some of those people survived to the end.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean there's I mean, we're gonna this is

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<v Speaker 1>a full spoiler podcast, before we before we go to

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<v Speaker 1>full spoilers, recommend rogue. Would you say people should check

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<v Speaker 1>out Roue if they're a fan of Deepsy, I would.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't think it's like the best creature feature.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's very solid and enjoyable, and I don't see

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<v Speaker 2>you why you would regret giving it a watch. There's

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<v Speaker 2>definitely some fun scenes to it, and besides, seeing the

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<v Speaker 2>Australian scenery is very pleasant, much more pleasant than watching

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<v Speaker 2>a movie like Wolf Creek. I don't know if you've

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<v Speaker 2>watched that, but I have not. Snow that's like more

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<v Speaker 2>desolate Australia.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that actually feature any kind of creatures of any kind?

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<v Speaker 2>Wolves or creak? Yeah, no it doesn't. It just involves

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<v Speaker 2>a sadistic murderer, which the actor is also in this movie.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that that that's Russell John Jarrett. I think yes, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he's also like picnicer hanging Rock from the Piece Away film.

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<v Speaker 2>I know he's been around, but he is like a madman.

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<v Speaker 2>And Wolf Creek, okay, that is a pretty brutal horror movie.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, because you know we're doing reptiles this year. We

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<v Speaker 1>might do mammals at some point, who knows, And I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like, oh, Creek could potentially be in a but yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess humans are mammals. But I don't think we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna We're gonna do serial killers in mammals season. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll do like the King Goong franchise. And Marcus said,

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<v Speaker 1>well bats fem called bats from night. He keeps going on,

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<v Speaker 1>so we'll talk about bats and.

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<v Speaker 2>Jumps on a YouTube video that talked about bats heavily

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<v Speaker 2>and it looked so fun.

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<v Speaker 1>It comes up every other episode that Mark is on.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like, I don't know why I've never seen it,

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<v Speaker 1>But that's when we'll finally cover Grizzly. If there's a

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<v Speaker 1>mammal film you want to put your name down for that,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll cover in four years time. Keep the string, keep

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<v Speaker 1>keep it going.

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<v Speaker 2>You've really opened it up. And what about have you

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<v Speaker 2>done movies about birds or is that also?

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<v Speaker 1>We talked about that recently actually with your former franchiw

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<v Speaker 1>Sunday Cooks. Nick was on recently. We couldn't find many

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<v Speaker 1>like bird creature feature films other than The Birds and Bird.

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<v Speaker 1>Other bird films are like animated films about geese, like

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<v Speaker 1>like migration, that kind of thing. I was like, that's

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<v Speaker 1>really I mean, we've covered Shark Tale, so we're not

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<v Speaker 1>We're covering Rango at some point this year. I'm sure.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I don't want to cover a whole

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<v Speaker 2>That's not Yeah, that's not.

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<v Speaker 1>What I want to do. What we could do the

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<v Speaker 1>Mighty Ducks. We're do the Mighty Ducks. That's not gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not no, no, no.

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<v Speaker 2>One episode on the Birds would probably suffice, I guess.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And we can just we can just insert that

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<v Speaker 1>in outside of a bird season any any old time.

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<v Speaker 1>Like you know, we've covered non shark films prior to

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<v Speaker 1>during shark seasons. Good wonderful.

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<v Speaker 2>So U have you a movie alligator?

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<v Speaker 1>We have? We've done alligator, We done Alligator to the mutation.

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<v Speaker 1>What did those prior to this year?

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, the alligator? Or is it just alligator?

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<v Speaker 1>It's just alligator? They got there could be another film

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<v Speaker 1>called the Anallegator. But Robert Foster is an alligator.

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<v Speaker 2>That movie has burned in my mind from watching it

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<v Speaker 2>when I was a kid, particularly the pool scene. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>why because I just remember seeing that as a kid

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<v Speaker 2>and thinking this is the scariest thing ever that there

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<v Speaker 2>would just be an alligator in like a suburban pool.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't remember the pool scene an alligator. I remember it's

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<v Speaker 1>mainly like super.

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<v Speaker 2>Based unless I'm mixing up movies.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, there are a few films with alligators in pools,

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<v Speaker 1>but they have like quite recent.

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<v Speaker 2>I think, yeah, alligator from nineteen eighty.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, sorry, it's quite a brief scene. It's kids

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<v Speaker 1>throwing a kid into a pool and gate. Yeah I'm

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well that's even funnier to me that that burned

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<v Speaker 2>into my brain that it's just like a random It's

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<v Speaker 2>not like characters we know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, oh, go other kids on their we'n pad,

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<v Speaker 1>where's it gonna go? Go to this Halloween party? Did you? So?

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about Rogue.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's talk about sidetrack.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, that's what we do. It's podcasting, happens. Any any

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<v Speaker 1>favorite characters in the cast, any any stats, so we'll

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<v Speaker 1>say spoilers. From this point on, this is recommended. Go

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<v Speaker 1>check out Rogue. It's great. So any standout characters for you?

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<v Speaker 1>The Survival didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>I did enjoy Kate, even though she sometimes makes weird decisions.

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<v Speaker 2>I did think she was a fun female lead for

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<v Speaker 2>the movie. I think it would have been cool to

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<v Speaker 2>maybe see her do a couple more like skillful things,

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<v Speaker 2>because I assumed she would be like a skillful person

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<v Speaker 2>growing up how she did. But I still thought she

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<v Speaker 2>was cool.

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<v Speaker 1>I liked her play by Roda Mitchell. Yes, she's like

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<v Speaker 1>the tour the guide died on the on the tour,

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<v Speaker 1>and man's the moment and everything. My one the moment

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<v Speaker 1>was disappointed with her was when they had crashed on

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<v Speaker 1>a little island and she's like trying to make a

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<v Speaker 1>So what do you think? I like, No, no, no, you're

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<v Speaker 1>in charge. Like he's just some tourist guy. He's a

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<v Speaker 1>writer from Chicago, he doesn't know anything. He hates animals.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, this is you should. I wanted her to

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<v Speaker 1>be like, this is what we're going to do and

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of be confident about it. And when she

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<v Speaker 1>asked his opinion, I was like, that's a little disappointing. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>The whole movie I kept just referring to Pete as

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<v Speaker 1>I just get writing, writer, writer, right, because people do

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<v Speaker 1>No one said Hi, I'm Russell. That doesn't happen to

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I barely know any of the character's names, to

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<v Speaker 2>be honest, I'm just I just wrote down things like father,

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<v Speaker 2>seeing it's she doesn't do much. But I was like, ah,

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<v Speaker 1>Young Alice in Wonderland as as daughter of family.

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<v Speaker 1>Alan played by Jeff Morron and so English, such a

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<v Speaker 1>And they're not just saying like, oh, yeah, it's just

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<v Speaker 1>she's just like an English lady over forty five. She

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<v Speaker 1>that she is dying of something. He's being protective of her,

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<v Speaker 1>he really kicks off that rope. Bridge sequences is definitely

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<v Speaker 1>a highlight of you have one character like stopping in

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<v Speaker 1>the middle, and then just the silliness, the real silliness, like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Frustrating. Yeah, it's one of those frustrating moments, but

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<v Speaker 2>the moment. It's not totally unrealistic someone would make that

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<v Speaker 2>bad decision, but it was just like, oh, this it

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<v Speaker 2>seemed far fetched that this could work, but now it's

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<v Speaker 2>definitely not gonna work. Yeah, getting everyone across.

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<v Speaker 1>If we have a child behind her, maybe it'll spur

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<v Speaker 1>her on to keep going. Maybe, but if it doesn't,

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<v Speaker 1>then it's that's a big risk you're taking. Yeah, for

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<v Speaker 1>all three of those people to fall in the water

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<v Speaker 1>and make it back to the island. And before Sam

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<v Speaker 1>Worthington is in this film, him to be the one

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<v Speaker 1>who's taken out and despite being on the land he

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<v Speaker 1>when now he's the one who dies. That was my

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<v Speaker 1>big surprise was him being taken out earlier at the

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<v Speaker 1>year me too.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought he was going to last a while, and

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<v Speaker 2>him dying there was very shocking. And then so I

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<v Speaker 2>have him getting across, then the rope bridge, and then

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<v Speaker 2>that falling apart, Neil dying and he's one of the

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<v Speaker 2>only character names that I picked up on because I

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<v Speaker 1>Is like a bunch of like Colin.

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<v Speaker 2>And then right after that, when the father is killed

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<v Speaker 2>on the on the shore, that so much had already happened.

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<v Speaker 2>Even though somewhat you kind of expect that, oh no,

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<v Speaker 2>he's there, he's probably gonna get snatched, it still had

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<v Speaker 2>an element of surprise because so much action had just

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<v Speaker 2>taken place. Uh, But that was the really, the first

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<v Speaker 2>really good look at the I should know this was

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<v Speaker 2>this an alligator or a crocodile.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a crocodile. It's my general rule is if he's

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<v Speaker 1>in Australia, it's a crocodile. If it's in America, I

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<v Speaker 1>keep on getting it wrong on the show, but that's

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm picking up Australian.

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<v Speaker 2>But that was your first good look at how big

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<v Speaker 2>and massive the crocodile was.

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<v Speaker 1>So that was fun, absolutely, and his death the Alan.

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<v Speaker 1>His death was my favorite because as he's been as

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<v Speaker 1>he's being taken away, we've said it's been brought up

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<v Speaker 1>in the in the in the film ready that if

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<v Speaker 1>like the crocks won't get eat immediately, you're like tear

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<v Speaker 1>you to pieces and drag you off to its nest whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's like dragging him off. It's removed his arm.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's dragginghim up. And as he's being taken away,

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<v Speaker 1>he's like, oh, oh no, and it's such an English

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<v Speaker 1>he's been so English. As he's being killed, Oh, oh dear,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh what's happening. As he's just been dragged water by

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<v Speaker 1>this enormous krogile. Oh my gosh, And that's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>like his his family's surviving memory of him is that,

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<v Speaker 1>oh dear, what's happening? And I loved it. Yeah, So

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<v Speaker 1>I expected one of the parents to die, And when

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<v Speaker 1>we found out that that the mother was ill, I

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<v Speaker 1>thought they were probably both like she would like give herself,

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<v Speaker 1>like sacrifice herself to save her daughter or something.

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<v Speaker 2>I definitely expected that too.

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<v Speaker 1>Didn't happen. She makes it out, possibly with a new

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<v Speaker 1>partner who knows, okay, the same thing. Yeah, that was

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of things you don't often get a these

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<v Speaker 1>kind of films. Is there's a couple of like touching

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<v Speaker 1>moments and they come mainly from the character Russell John Jarrett,

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<v Speaker 1>the guy has been in every Australian film made since

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventy five. He's in Australia. Of course in Australia

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<v Speaker 1>contractual obligation. I think it for all Australia to be

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<v Speaker 1>in Australia. And he as when they're out on the crew.

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<v Speaker 1>When he arrives on the boat, they're doing the tickets

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<v Speaker 1>and he's got two tickets and it's just him on

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<v Speaker 1>his own, and case like you've got two tickets, You're like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>just i'me alone. It's quite quiet moment you think, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>something's happened here. I think he's got a look of

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<v Speaker 1>a serial killer about him. I didn't know he'd played

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<v Speaker 1>that Mpolf Creek, so that was kind of I'm pleased

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<v Speaker 1>with that. I kind of picked up on that and

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<v Speaker 1>I feel sorry for him. But like this has this

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<v Speaker 1>guy just like robbed people and he's going to take

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<v Speaker 1>over the boat, and it's gonna he's gonna drive into

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<v Speaker 1>a crocodile. What's gonna happen? I had no idea where

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<v Speaker 1>this film was going to go over than a crocodile.

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<v Speaker 1>So we then see a moment where he's quietly spreading

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<v Speaker 1>his wife's ashes into I assume his wife his partner

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<v Speaker 1>could be a husband. I don't know, spreading his part

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<v Speaker 1>his partner's ashes into the water as are going. So

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<v Speaker 1>maybe they shared some memory here, the honeymoon here whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>Either way, that was like a nice, little touching moment

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<v Speaker 1>that you wouldn't often see in this kind of film.

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<v Speaker 1>No one comments on it. You have to be watching

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<v Speaker 1>to see it. No one's like, hey, you can't do that.

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<v Speaker 1>It just it just happens. He does it nice. And

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<v Speaker 1>then later after Alan is killed, he then kind of

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<v Speaker 1>tends to Alan's widow now Heather Mitchell, and he they

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<v Speaker 1>have a little little moment we're like, I'm sorry, I

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<v Speaker 1>can't imagine what it's like to not have a chance

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<v Speaker 1>to say goodbye, because an idea that in his situation

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<v Speaker 1>there's been more of a prolonged illness again, and he

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<v Speaker 1>had a chance to say goodbye to his partner, perhaps,

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<v Speaker 1>but it also felt like he was making a move

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<v Speaker 1>he was. He was like, hell of a day, you

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<v Speaker 1>got there kind of thing. Are you maybe wait till

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<v Speaker 1>the crocodile's finished the meal before you start making moves

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<v Speaker 1>on on the widow. I don't know. It could have

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<v Speaker 1>been a nice guy. But he then saves her. He

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<v Speaker 1>like because she cuds whims, so he gets her a

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<v Speaker 1>gross at the end.

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<v Speaker 2>It definitely gave that vibe he was.

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<v Speaker 1>I think my favorite character is because it's someone you

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<v Speaker 1>don't often see in these kind of films. It's a different,

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<v Speaker 1>different kind of guy. Yeah, and I liked him at least.

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<v Speaker 1>Favorite character is probably Simon, the camera guy wearing the

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<v Speaker 1>T shirt with the man pointed to his face and

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<v Speaker 1>the legend pointing to his crutch. Hated this guy, hated

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<v Speaker 1>he survived. I thought he would die immediately, like first

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<v Speaker 1>to die that.

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<v Speaker 2>Was the other character, the mom and Simon. I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>they will definitely die, especially at the end, like if

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<v Speaker 2>you've been paying any amount of attention, you've noticed his shirt,

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<v Speaker 2>and then at the end they do like an extreme

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<v Speaker 2>close up, like just in case you missed it, And

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, Okay, now he's definitely gonna die. But

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<v Speaker 2>they have the scene where he's like taking the beer

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<v Speaker 2>that was on the boat that capsizedly.

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<v Speaker 1>Not telling anyone. He just like looks around my bit. Now. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he was just.

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<v Speaker 2>Completely being set up to be like a somewhat comedic

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<v Speaker 2>kill off, but it didn't happen.

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<v Speaker 1>And when we introduced him on the boat, the family

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<v Speaker 1>asked him to take their picture with me and Prodrick's

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<v Speaker 1>camera and he takes up, oh, that's a nice camera.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not an SLR and gets that in reels of

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<v Speaker 1>all the specs of his He's one of those guys,

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<v Speaker 1>one of those people who just can't stop telling you

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<v Speaker 1>about their camera and they like people. The family are like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's interesting, and he just keeps going, like this

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<v Speaker 1>guy needs to die. We need to have him filming

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<v Speaker 1>the inside of a crocodile within ten minutes of this happening.

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<v Speaker 1>And no, so yeah, hey, yeah, this guy appalled that

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<v Speaker 1>he survived. He's like, yeah, he should be like tyber

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<v Speaker 1>Ellen Dawn of the Dead. He's like a dick, he said,

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<v Speaker 1>up as a dick, and then he should be taken out.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was surprised when the Irish lady played by

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<v Speaker 1>Celia Island Gwen, I thought she might die as well,

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<v Speaker 1>just because she seemed alone. She's smoking, you know, bad

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<v Speaker 1>smoking films. But then she does move when she's aught

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<v Speaker 1>to move, so and she just kind of seems a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit annoying. Yeah, but she makes it out as well,

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<v Speaker 1>So what do I know? Who knows?

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<v Speaker 2>Speaking of smoking? Early on, when you see Pete, the

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<v Speaker 2>first intro of him is putting out his cigarette butt

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<v Speaker 2>with his foot and just leaving it on the ground.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, is this a sign that he's a villain,

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<v Speaker 2>because to me, that is villainous behavior to leave your cigarette.

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<v Speaker 2>But on like the Australian ground like, no, don't do that.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree, Yeah, I mean I have I have never smoked,

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<v Speaker 1>but I also would if I did, so I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>I hate people just like flick the cigarettes out of

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<v Speaker 1>cars or whatever you throw it away.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but he ends up being the hero.

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<v Speaker 1>Does what do I know? He does? And we'll get

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<v Speaker 1>to the ending at the end of it. But I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think anyone believes him when he gets back and

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<v Speaker 1>explains what happened. I think that's just his head. Talking

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<v Speaker 1>of villains, you've met my wife. You're friends with my wife.

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<v Speaker 1>She has cooked you dinner. Yes, she might consider you

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<v Speaker 1>a villain now, Jess, I don't think. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>she likes you to anymore because he picks this film and

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<v Speaker 1>you told us to watch this film, and this film

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<v Speaker 1>features an adorable dog, lovely dog, Kevin the dog, beautiful dog,

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful creature. That dog gets eaten by crocodile in this film.

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<v Speaker 1>We're Happening was so We're happening.

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<v Speaker 2>That was so upsetting. I'm so sorry you've treated me

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<v Speaker 2>so well. You're so lovely. I'm so sorry to do

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<v Speaker 2>that to you too.

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<v Speaker 1>Keep bowling. We bought fish and chips. We made you

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<v Speaker 1>late for a train then to p another one was bounced.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I said, I did not remember barely anything that

417
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<v Speaker 2>happened in this movie. And when that happened, I was

418
00:23:37.799 --> 00:23:42.319
<v Speaker 2>so upset. My mouth was just like hanging open. I

419
00:23:42.359 --> 00:23:46.200
<v Speaker 2>cannot believe that they did that, let alone how gruesome

420
00:23:46.319 --> 00:23:48.759
<v Speaker 2>it was. It was horrible.

421
00:23:49.640 --> 00:23:54.319
<v Speaker 1>When they were in the caves towards the end, Kevin

422
00:23:54.359 --> 00:23:57.400
<v Speaker 1>hasn't been on screen for a little bit, and I like,

423
00:23:57.839 --> 00:24:00.559
<v Speaker 1>Asia says like my wife Acia, She's like, what's the

424
00:24:00.640 --> 00:24:03.759
<v Speaker 1>dog and I pause it and go hmm, and I

425
00:24:03.880 --> 00:24:06.440
<v Speaker 1>checked on does the doog die dot com? So I

426
00:24:06.519 --> 00:24:09.000
<v Speaker 1>rarely use I don't like spoilers. And it's like, yep,

427
00:24:09.039 --> 00:24:11.599
<v Speaker 1>dog dies gruesome and grizzly. And I was like, do

428
00:24:11.640 --> 00:24:13.680
<v Speaker 1>you mind, We've got fifteen minutes left. I can finish

429
00:24:13.680 --> 00:24:16.920
<v Speaker 1>watching this tomorrow. And she's like, it's fine. She was

430
00:24:16.920 --> 00:24:20.000
<v Speaker 1>doing some cross ditching at the time. It's fine, but

431
00:24:20.079 --> 00:24:22.039
<v Speaker 1>she didn't have time to look away because I unpaused

432
00:24:22.039 --> 00:24:24.400
<v Speaker 1>it immediately as we saw the dog inside the crocodile,

433
00:24:24.920 --> 00:24:28.519
<v Speaker 1>like straight away, I was like, suctually as I paused it, it

434
00:24:28.559 --> 00:24:32.079
<v Speaker 1>was I thought that was like the court the Sam

435
00:24:32.079 --> 00:24:35.440
<v Speaker 1>Worthington corpseizing me, is that he finds? I thought that

436
00:24:35.519 --> 00:24:36.720
<v Speaker 1>was what was in the mouth. But no, it's a dog.

437
00:24:36.759 --> 00:24:41.200
<v Speaker 1>It's Kevin. The dog. Kevin died, upsetting, unhappy. Don't do

438
00:24:41.200 --> 00:24:44.839
<v Speaker 1>it again, I promise.

439
00:24:44.920 --> 00:24:45.920
<v Speaker 2>I didn't remember that.

440
00:24:46.319 --> 00:24:48.720
<v Speaker 1>No, it's it's it's fine.

441
00:24:49.759 --> 00:24:52.799
<v Speaker 2>It was bad enough. When the group was talking about

442
00:24:52.799 --> 00:24:56.519
<v Speaker 2>sacrificing the dog, I was like, these people are monsters.

443
00:24:56.680 --> 00:25:02.240
<v Speaker 1>Yep. Yeah, And because they is it the dead geese

444
00:25:02.359 --> 00:25:06.839
<v Speaker 1>or something that they they're there, they have like Simon

445
00:25:06.920 --> 00:25:08.480
<v Speaker 1>just goes, oh, hang on a second and a gee,

446
00:25:08.519 --> 00:25:10.480
<v Speaker 1>so he knew he was one one one suggesting we

447
00:25:10.559 --> 00:25:16.440
<v Speaker 1>used the dog as bait, and he knows the yeah.

448
00:25:16.839 --> 00:25:19.200
<v Speaker 1>As soon as he and Elizabeth Elizabeth, I have been

449
00:25:19.920 --> 00:25:22.640
<v Speaker 1>three and a half years. I've been say, like, striving

450
00:25:22.680 --> 00:25:25.240
<v Speaker 1>for any one more day with my daughter, and you're

451
00:25:25.279 --> 00:25:29.839
<v Speaker 1>going to sacrifice your dog so I can have another one? Okay, okay, lady, No, No,

452
00:25:31.880 --> 00:25:35.000
<v Speaker 1>that's not happening right now in this film, I don't

453
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<v Speaker 1>think so.

454
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I just have a note that says Kevin. No,

455
00:25:41.599 --> 00:25:43.599
<v Speaker 2>that's gonna be my letter named Kevin.

456
00:25:43.799 --> 00:25:46.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, dog and Kevin. I really wanted it to find

457
00:25:46.359 --> 00:25:48.279
<v Speaker 1>out that Kevin was a girl, because that's what happens

458
00:25:48.319 --> 00:25:55.799
<v Speaker 1>it up. Kevin's a girl. But no different film. That's

459
00:25:55.920 --> 00:26:00.359
<v Speaker 1>a bird film, I guess, or a mammal film as

460
00:26:00.400 --> 00:26:05.440
<v Speaker 1>a talking dog with a bunch of talking dogs. So

461
00:26:05.519 --> 00:26:08.960
<v Speaker 1>what did you think of our hero of Michael Vatan

462
00:26:09.200 --> 00:26:13.680
<v Speaker 1>as Pete mckel other than him being a cigarette littering villain.

463
00:26:15.359 --> 00:26:18.359
<v Speaker 1>Did you think he worked as the lead or the

464
00:26:18.480 --> 00:26:19.359
<v Speaker 1>co lead?

465
00:26:21.000 --> 00:26:24.039
<v Speaker 2>I think he did all right. I think he had

466
00:26:24.079 --> 00:26:28.480
<v Speaker 2>a bit of a journey from being a quick turn

467
00:26:28.519 --> 00:26:34.799
<v Speaker 2>about from being not very outdoorsy, like he's wearing a

468
00:26:34.839 --> 00:26:36.680
<v Speaker 2>suit to go on the riverboat cruise.

469
00:26:38.000 --> 00:26:39.799
<v Speaker 1>It's sick, he's lost a suitcase. That's the only clothes

470
00:26:39.799 --> 00:26:41.759
<v Speaker 1>he's got left. He decided to travel in a suit.

471
00:26:41.759 --> 00:26:43.960
<v Speaker 1>Because this was two thousand and seven.

472
00:26:45.680 --> 00:26:48.000
<v Speaker 2>It was giving a bit of like Survivor, where they

473
00:26:48.039 --> 00:26:52.039
<v Speaker 2>make the businessman wear a suit to like on the season.

474
00:26:52.920 --> 00:26:57.400
<v Speaker 2>But by the end he is a fairly capable, brave,

475
00:26:59.079 --> 00:27:03.319
<v Speaker 2>adventurous man. So there was a bit of a hero's

476
00:27:03.400 --> 00:27:06.599
<v Speaker 2>journey there, I guess, but I thought he was. He's fine.

477
00:27:07.039 --> 00:27:10.559
<v Speaker 2>He has that look of like the two thousands to me,

478
00:27:11.559 --> 00:27:15.480
<v Speaker 2>like if it felt very of that time.

479
00:27:16.839 --> 00:27:20.119
<v Speaker 1>See an actor you're familiar with at all outside of Rogue,

480
00:27:21.720 --> 00:27:22.519
<v Speaker 1>not super.

481
00:27:22.279 --> 00:27:24.200
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I've seen him here and there, but I

482
00:27:24.240 --> 00:27:26.480
<v Speaker 2>don't I wouldn't say I'm super well versed.

483
00:27:27.440 --> 00:27:29.640
<v Speaker 1>Same I don't think i've seen anything else he's been in.

484
00:27:29.640 --> 00:27:31.839
<v Speaker 1>Apparently he's like in One Hour Photo, but I don't

485
00:27:31.880 --> 00:27:36.160
<v Speaker 1>remember much about that film. But when my age was like,

486
00:27:36.319 --> 00:27:41.240
<v Speaker 1>he's from something and he's the guy in Monster in Law, he's,

487
00:27:41.359 --> 00:27:46.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, the son of Jane Vonder and the husband

488
00:27:46.039 --> 00:27:48.240
<v Speaker 1>of je I was like, yeah, he's got that look

489
00:27:48.400 --> 00:27:50.880
<v Speaker 1>of being just like the guy in something. He's he's

490
00:27:51.200 --> 00:27:52.759
<v Speaker 1>he's not the main part of this. He's the guy

491
00:27:53.519 --> 00:27:58.400
<v Speaker 1>that yeah clicks tracks, so nothing against him. He's you know,

492
00:27:58.519 --> 00:28:02.880
<v Speaker 1>he's he fits the role. This is decent enough, but

493
00:28:02.960 --> 00:28:09.400
<v Speaker 1>he's not like making a big impression. Uh, Sam Worthington does,

494
00:28:09.480 --> 00:28:13.160
<v Speaker 1>He's really sinks into the role of being a knob,

495
00:28:14.240 --> 00:28:18.839
<v Speaker 1>just kind of showing up and being I assume he's

496
00:28:18.920 --> 00:28:22.799
<v Speaker 1>like Kate's X of some kind. It's kind of the

497
00:28:22.880 --> 00:28:26.920
<v Speaker 1>vibe get as he kind of shows up and some havoc.

498
00:28:27.759 --> 00:28:33.519
<v Speaker 1>But you then like, uh, Pete and the husband who

499
00:28:33.599 --> 00:28:39.400
<v Speaker 1>had a name probably m M not seeing it Everett Everett.

500
00:28:39.440 --> 00:28:41.200
<v Speaker 2>Yes, the guy she calls John Wayne.

501
00:28:41.519 --> 00:28:43.839
<v Speaker 1>Yes, they like they don't don't stand up anything, but

502
00:28:43.839 --> 00:28:47.759
<v Speaker 1>they're like, hey, guy, go away. And then they get

503
00:28:47.799 --> 00:28:50.319
<v Speaker 1>called four Eyes and John Wayne as like heroes of

504
00:28:50.400 --> 00:28:53.039
<v Speaker 1>the day. Okay, they said a little thing they didn't,

505
00:28:53.160 --> 00:28:59.359
<v Speaker 1>you know, it is bare minimum, but sure. Yeah. Apparently

506
00:28:59.359 --> 00:29:01.440
<v Speaker 1>Sam Worlington did that stunt of falling in the water

507
00:29:01.559 --> 00:29:03.799
<v Speaker 1>and was scared to do so because where they did it,

508
00:29:03.839 --> 00:29:06.680
<v Speaker 1>a crocodile had been there recently. There was like there

509
00:29:06.720 --> 00:29:08.359
<v Speaker 1>was like news of a crocodile being there, so he

510
00:29:08.400 --> 00:29:10.839
<v Speaker 1>refused to he get on like ruining the takes by

511
00:29:11.799 --> 00:29:15.480
<v Speaker 1>being scared to fall in the water. And it actually

512
00:29:15.519 --> 00:29:18.359
<v Speaker 1>took the director to put to put a James Cameron

513
00:29:18.440 --> 00:29:19.880
<v Speaker 1>and be like, this is how you do it. And

514
00:29:19.880 --> 00:29:21.279
<v Speaker 1>so he's like went for a swim in the water

515
00:29:21.319 --> 00:29:24.960
<v Speaker 1>that was crocodile to proved to Sam Worthington that it

516
00:29:25.000 --> 00:29:26.519
<v Speaker 1>was fine to do it. And then Sam won did

517
00:29:26.519 --> 00:29:28.319
<v Speaker 1>it and then he found out that it wasn't a crocodile.

518
00:29:28.359 --> 00:29:30.559
<v Speaker 1>They hadn't been there for rages. It has been relocated.

519
00:29:33.000 --> 00:29:37.240
<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, that's funny. He did look scared in

520
00:29:37.279 --> 00:29:40.279
<v Speaker 2>that scene when he goes into the water, so that's

521
00:29:40.359 --> 00:29:45.640
<v Speaker 2>why that worked. I felt like that was one of

522
00:29:45.680 --> 00:29:51.240
<v Speaker 2>the more like emotive performances I've seen from Sam Worthington

523
00:29:51.279 --> 00:29:54.440
<v Speaker 2>where he's like has a personal like a bigger personality,

524
00:29:54.960 --> 00:29:57.240
<v Speaker 2>and it wasn't a good personality, but it still was

525
00:29:57.279 --> 00:29:59.559
<v Speaker 2>like more of a personality than I feel like a

526
00:29:59.599 --> 00:30:03.359
<v Speaker 2>lot of his roles. He's very just like straight man

527
00:30:03.680 --> 00:30:06.279
<v Speaker 2>like stoic kind of roles.

528
00:30:06.920 --> 00:30:12.000
<v Speaker 1>Jake Jake Sully, Yeah, sure, which you know, Hey, I

529
00:30:12.039 --> 00:30:13.559
<v Speaker 1>like I like the Avita film is a great deal.

530
00:30:13.720 --> 00:30:17.200
<v Speaker 1>A big fan of them that has nothing to do

531
00:30:17.240 --> 00:30:21.720
<v Speaker 1>with Sam Worthington, mean in it, he doesn't harm them,

532
00:30:23.039 --> 00:30:26.640
<v Speaker 1>but you must do you know that Matt Damon was

533
00:30:26.640 --> 00:30:27.720
<v Speaker 1>supposed to be that character.

534
00:30:29.079 --> 00:30:29.960
<v Speaker 2>I did not know that.

535
00:30:30.079 --> 00:30:33.839
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Matt Damiens. He's done an interviews before where he

536
00:30:34.000 --> 00:30:36.759
<v Speaker 1>was offered the role of Sam Worthing's of Jake Sully

537
00:30:36.799 --> 00:30:41.160
<v Speaker 1>in Avatar and he turned it down because he wasn't

538
00:30:41.200 --> 00:30:43.000
<v Speaker 1>He didn't want to get tight or a franchise whatever

539
00:30:43.319 --> 00:30:45.599
<v Speaker 1>at all of the setch effects work. He wasn't. Just

540
00:30:45.960 --> 00:30:50.839
<v Speaker 1>he was offered I think something like ten of the

541
00:30:50.839 --> 00:30:57.079
<v Speaker 1>profits of the film, which would have been two hundred

542
00:30:57.119 --> 00:30:58.200
<v Speaker 1>million dollars.

543
00:30:59.720 --> 00:31:04.519
<v Speaker 2>Rough And yeah, he guessing Sam didn't get that deal.

544
00:31:04.920 --> 00:31:10.279
<v Speaker 1>I highly doubt it. But yeah, when Damon talks about that,

545
00:31:10.319 --> 00:31:11.880
<v Speaker 1>you just get he gets that look in his eyes

546
00:31:12.079 --> 00:31:18.440
<v Speaker 1>like God, oh no, the most anyone's ever turned down

547
00:31:18.519 --> 00:31:24.880
<v Speaker 1>for a role. Yeah, and I like my David quite

548
00:31:24.880 --> 00:31:26.200
<v Speaker 1>a bit, so I would have been fine with that.

549
00:31:26.359 --> 00:31:29.640
<v Speaker 1>But there we are. Yeah. I think that this was

550
00:31:29.720 --> 00:31:32.559
<v Speaker 1>before Avatar. So maybe this is one of the things

551
00:31:32.559 --> 00:31:35.839
<v Speaker 1>that James Cameron saw, like, hey, him in my film.

552
00:31:35.960 --> 00:31:40.960
<v Speaker 1>Maybe perhaps I don't know, but yeah, as we said,

553
00:31:41.000 --> 00:31:42.720
<v Speaker 1>wasn't expecting his stuff. Yeah.

554
00:31:43.160 --> 00:31:49.480
<v Speaker 2>Also, when Neil and Colin show up, like after the

555
00:31:49.559 --> 00:31:54.720
<v Speaker 2>river Cruz has capsized and then they're they roll in

556
00:31:55.160 --> 00:31:58.759
<v Speaker 2>and are just kind of like taunting them from the boat,

557
00:31:59.599 --> 00:32:04.640
<v Speaker 2>and then and they realize like something's wrong. I honestly was, huh, this.

558
00:32:04.720 --> 00:32:06.480
<v Speaker 1>Went wrong with that boat? Oh, crocodile.

559
00:32:08.039 --> 00:32:12.759
<v Speaker 2>I was shocked that that was the timing of the

560
00:32:12.880 --> 00:32:17.200
<v Speaker 2>croc like knocking their boat over, so that I mean,

561
00:32:17.240 --> 00:32:19.200
<v Speaker 2>I kind of expected something was going to go wrong,

562
00:32:19.759 --> 00:32:22.759
<v Speaker 2>but it still was like, Oh, that happened really fast.

563
00:32:23.720 --> 00:32:26.640
<v Speaker 1>Their boat goes down quick, it was knocked up, and

564
00:32:26.680 --> 00:32:29.599
<v Speaker 1>then when they like surface, the boat is sunk already it.

565
00:32:29.519 --> 00:32:35.359
<v Speaker 2>Is, and Colin's gone. I also thought like right after

566
00:32:35.480 --> 00:32:40.160
<v Speaker 2>soon after that, Everett, the John Wayne guy, when he

567
00:32:40.160 --> 00:32:43.559
<v Speaker 2>he's sort of the first person on the little island

568
00:32:44.559 --> 00:32:49.200
<v Speaker 2>who is killed and he's just like snatched from the shoreline,

569
00:32:49.480 --> 00:32:53.519
<v Speaker 2>and that was so that was so creepy, Like it

570
00:32:53.599 --> 00:32:58.640
<v Speaker 2>was so quiet that it made it almost scarier than

571
00:32:59.160 --> 00:33:03.400
<v Speaker 2>later on when the father is actually like visibly taken

572
00:33:03.519 --> 00:33:06.039
<v Speaker 2>and like that's a much bigger moment, but just how

573
00:33:06.160 --> 00:33:10.680
<v Speaker 2>quietly Everett was taken. Was very scary to me.

574
00:33:11.200 --> 00:33:13.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it helps build up like how big is this

575
00:33:13.319 --> 00:33:16.319
<v Speaker 1>crocodile because it's been said like they don't tend to

576
00:33:16.359 --> 00:33:17.920
<v Speaker 1>attack things that are smaller than them, and it took

577
00:33:17.960 --> 00:33:22.240
<v Speaker 1>out a pretty big boat, so is it is it

578
00:33:22.359 --> 00:33:24.960
<v Speaker 1>like bigger than the boat? And I don't think I

579
00:33:25.000 --> 00:33:27.359
<v Speaker 1>think it's comparable. We do see it later and it

580
00:33:27.440 --> 00:33:31.359
<v Speaker 1>is huge. It is a monster, and I think the

581
00:33:31.359 --> 00:33:33.680
<v Speaker 1>effects are pretty good. Actually there for two thousand and

582
00:33:33.680 --> 00:33:36.599
<v Speaker 1>seven it's on screen. I think it has like less

583
00:33:36.599 --> 00:33:40.960
<v Speaker 1>than six minutes of actual screen time, which fine, but

584
00:33:41.119 --> 00:33:43.039
<v Speaker 1>I had I didn't like, look at it, go like

585
00:33:43.119 --> 00:33:45.640
<v Speaker 1>that's terrible. Bear in mind, this is the film I

586
00:33:45.680 --> 00:33:48.200
<v Speaker 1>watched meekly before this was Anaconda three Offspring, in which

587
00:33:48.200 --> 00:33:51.119
<v Speaker 1>the snake is awful. And we've recently covered the likes

588
00:33:51.160 --> 00:33:56.039
<v Speaker 1>of Mega Python versus Gatoroid, which the effects are awful.

589
00:33:56.920 --> 00:33:58.640
<v Speaker 1>This is this is comfortable to that. You got to

590
00:33:58.920 --> 00:34:02.599
<v Speaker 1>mind where I'm approaching this from Oh my gosh, and

591
00:34:02.680 --> 00:34:04.559
<v Speaker 1>like you know, attack of the meth Gate we covered

592
00:34:04.559 --> 00:34:08.480
<v Speaker 1>recently on the show, but we just don't have good effects.

593
00:34:08.559 --> 00:34:10.639
<v Speaker 1>This has good effects. This looks like a crocodile. This

594
00:34:10.719 --> 00:34:13.800
<v Speaker 1>looks like a big yeah, you know, I was happy

595
00:34:13.800 --> 00:34:14.079
<v Speaker 1>with this.

596
00:34:14.440 --> 00:34:17.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it looked. It looked pretty good, especially at the

597
00:34:17.360 --> 00:34:20.280
<v Speaker 2>end when they're in the crocodile layer, which is a

598
00:34:20.440 --> 00:34:24.559
<v Speaker 2>very cool scene and concept. You see it very very

599
00:34:24.559 --> 00:34:29.079
<v Speaker 2>clearly on screen, and it's it still looks pretty good.

600
00:34:29.440 --> 00:34:35.920
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, yeah. And when so prior to that, they had

601
00:34:35.960 --> 00:34:38.079
<v Speaker 1>a plan to get off the island with they fight,

602
00:34:38.199 --> 00:34:42.239
<v Speaker 1>like he finds a big hook and they put the

603
00:34:42.320 --> 00:34:44.119
<v Speaker 1>geese on it, not the dog. They put the keeye

604
00:34:44.159 --> 00:34:46.679
<v Speaker 1>on it. In the water, he like stays behind the

605
00:34:46.719 --> 00:34:50.840
<v Speaker 1>jostle the rope. Everyone else gets off. Kate decides to

606
00:34:50.840 --> 00:34:55.599
<v Speaker 1>like hang around for ages. I don't know why. She's

607
00:34:55.639 --> 00:34:57.119
<v Speaker 1>the last one off the island before him, and she

608
00:34:57.119 --> 00:34:59.519
<v Speaker 1>starts swimming across and then the croc let's let's go

609
00:34:59.559 --> 00:35:03.039
<v Speaker 1>at the bait and she gets taken. And because we've

610
00:35:03.039 --> 00:35:06.320
<v Speaker 1>already had Sam Worthington taken earlier, I was like, oh, surprised.

611
00:35:06.320 --> 00:35:08.679
<v Speaker 1>I thought she was dead like the film. The film

612
00:35:08.679 --> 00:35:13.480
<v Speaker 1>got me. I was like, oh, gone, and I'll give

613
00:35:13.519 --> 00:35:15.519
<v Speaker 1>her credit. She was like, no, she's probably been taken

614
00:35:15.559 --> 00:35:17.480
<v Speaker 1>to the crocs lair they mentioned earlier. I was like, yeah,

615
00:35:17.519 --> 00:35:19.360
<v Speaker 1>you're not even watching this film probably and you picked

616
00:35:19.440 --> 00:35:28.280
<v Speaker 1>up on that and I didn't. It's incredibly so and

617
00:35:28.320 --> 00:35:29.760
<v Speaker 1>that is that is the case. They get onto the

618
00:35:29.840 --> 00:35:34.519
<v Speaker 1>land and the pete has Kevin still and Kevin like

619
00:35:34.599 --> 00:35:36.800
<v Speaker 1>runs off following the scent. They get to the caves

620
00:35:37.000 --> 00:35:38.760
<v Speaker 1>and yeah, I think I think that cave sequence work

621
00:35:38.880 --> 00:35:42.239
<v Speaker 1>very well. It's kind of believable. What this this travel

622
00:35:42.239 --> 00:35:45.880
<v Speaker 1>writer against crocodile fight doesn't go very well to start with.

623
00:35:46.000 --> 00:35:47.280
<v Speaker 1>He like finds a big stick and the croc just

624
00:35:47.320 --> 00:35:49.440
<v Speaker 1>grabs a big stick and snaps in and thrashes around

625
00:35:49.440 --> 00:35:52.480
<v Speaker 1>a bit, like, Yeah, that's what that makes sense. You'll

626
00:35:52.480 --> 00:35:54.960
<v Speaker 1>go this crocodile is huge. You're gonna lose this fight.

627
00:35:55.199 --> 00:35:59.880
<v Speaker 1>Try by all means, but you're gonna lose. Then the

628
00:36:00.039 --> 00:36:02.880
<v Speaker 1>final act A bunch of these films end with the

629
00:36:02.920 --> 00:36:06.000
<v Speaker 1>animal spearing itself through the head. That seems to be

630
00:36:06.039 --> 00:36:08.440
<v Speaker 1>the main way of taking out a big creature. It

631
00:36:08.480 --> 00:36:12.400
<v Speaker 1>happens in the Shallows. In both of the Blackwater films,

632
00:36:12.440 --> 00:36:14.119
<v Speaker 1>they get both get shot in the head from a

633
00:36:14.159 --> 00:36:18.559
<v Speaker 1>gun that's inside their mouth. I think a very few

634
00:36:18.559 --> 00:36:22.400
<v Speaker 1>of the films that we've covered end that way, but hey,

635
00:36:22.440 --> 00:36:26.360
<v Speaker 1>it was the big stick that the crocodile itself sharpened

636
00:36:26.639 --> 00:36:29.719
<v Speaker 1>by biting it earlier. He lodged it against the rock,

637
00:36:31.119 --> 00:36:34.079
<v Speaker 1>and then he like sits there and the crock attacks

638
00:36:34.119 --> 00:36:36.400
<v Speaker 1>him and can't close his mouth on him because the

639
00:36:36.480 --> 00:36:37.800
<v Speaker 1>rock is in the way and the spears is of

640
00:36:38.039 --> 00:36:41.079
<v Speaker 1>the head with the spear, and he like survives unscathed

641
00:36:41.280 --> 00:36:44.119
<v Speaker 1>in the in the the little gap between croc and rock.

642
00:36:45.440 --> 00:36:50.119
<v Speaker 1>And then he gets out and carries a cake to safety.

643
00:36:50.239 --> 00:36:51.880
<v Speaker 1>And not a single soul in the world it's gonna

644
00:36:51.880 --> 00:36:54.440
<v Speaker 1>believe that happened. No, not a single person. No one

645
00:36:54.559 --> 00:36:57.039
<v Speaker 1>is going to be like, He's going to go to

646
00:36:57.119 --> 00:36:59.360
<v Speaker 1>the pub and try and get a drink, try and

647
00:36:59.440 --> 00:37:02.280
<v Speaker 1>get trying, so all night you're this story. No one's

648
00:37:02.320 --> 00:37:03.599
<v Speaker 1>gonna believe a word of it.

649
00:37:04.840 --> 00:37:07.840
<v Speaker 3>I picked up this stick, this giant stick, and I

650
00:37:07.920 --> 00:37:09.960
<v Speaker 3>got him the rock, and I wedged end in. This

651
00:37:10.119 --> 00:37:13.039
<v Speaker 3>thing was huge, it could be in the whole man.

652
00:37:13.239 --> 00:37:15.360
<v Speaker 3>I just stabbed it and I climbed out. I was unscathed,

653
00:37:15.360 --> 00:37:18.199
<v Speaker 3>and be like, nah, look at you. Not a chance,

654
00:37:18.880 --> 00:37:21.199
<v Speaker 3>not a chance, Michael, No way in hell.

655
00:37:22.320 --> 00:37:23.079
<v Speaker 1>I feel sorry for you.

656
00:37:24.119 --> 00:37:26.880
<v Speaker 2>He has to carry around that article that played over

657
00:37:27.000 --> 00:37:27.719
<v Speaker 2>the credits.

658
00:37:28.920 --> 00:37:31.840
<v Speaker 1>Will you see that? I didn't. This film ended with

659
00:37:31.960 --> 00:37:34.960
<v Speaker 1>no credits For me, It just film ended no credits,

660
00:37:35.400 --> 00:37:35.800
<v Speaker 1>So I don't know.

661
00:37:35.960 --> 00:37:38.719
<v Speaker 2>Did it show you back in the like the convenience

662
00:37:38.760 --> 00:37:40.960
<v Speaker 2>store he goes into. You know, I was covered with

663
00:37:41.159 --> 00:37:45.719
<v Speaker 2>articles the very ending. It like does a zoom in

664
00:37:45.960 --> 00:37:49.880
<v Speaker 2>on that wall and there's an article added in the

665
00:37:49.960 --> 00:37:54.880
<v Speaker 2>middle that's like American man slays giant crocodile.

666
00:37:55.239 --> 00:37:56.880
<v Speaker 1>I did not say that, but that will help his

667
00:37:57.000 --> 00:37:59.920
<v Speaker 1>story certainly. So they went was was there a pick

668
00:38:00.039 --> 00:38:00.760
<v Speaker 1>sure attached to it?

669
00:38:01.840 --> 00:38:04.480
<v Speaker 2>I think there was a picture of him, But I

670
00:38:04.519 --> 00:38:06.519
<v Speaker 2>don't know if he was with the crocodile.

671
00:38:06.400 --> 00:38:08.880
<v Speaker 1>Because I guess it could they could go back and

672
00:38:09.000 --> 00:38:12.480
<v Speaker 1>so I see that that's a little peak shaped hole

673
00:38:12.559 --> 00:38:14.440
<v Speaker 1>that I was in between the croc and the rock

674
00:38:14.519 --> 00:38:17.920
<v Speaker 1>with the big stick. So I guess, look, here's my footprints.

675
00:38:20.719 --> 00:38:26.760
<v Speaker 1>Please believe me. Yes, I guess he could write write

676
00:38:26.760 --> 00:38:33.400
<v Speaker 1>a book on that. Yeah, I'll go back and check

677
00:38:33.599 --> 00:38:35.039
<v Speaker 1>the end of the film, because I didn't. I didn't

678
00:38:35.039 --> 00:38:36.760
<v Speaker 1>see that in the crowds. I would go back and check.

679
00:38:37.840 --> 00:38:41.159
<v Speaker 2>I did think when they were at the convenience store

680
00:38:41.199 --> 00:38:43.039
<v Speaker 2>at the beginning, I guess that's what it is or

681
00:38:43.119 --> 00:38:48.960
<v Speaker 2>is it a little like, yeah diner type place. I

682
00:38:49.119 --> 00:38:57.800
<v Speaker 2>was like, this place has Texas chainsaw vibes. Sure, it

683
00:38:57.920 --> 00:39:01.079
<v Speaker 2>was so creepy, the different people sitting around.

684
00:39:01.079 --> 00:39:06.880
<v Speaker 1>And like a pig next to him. It sounded like

685
00:39:06.960 --> 00:39:07.280
<v Speaker 1>a pig.

686
00:39:08.800 --> 00:39:14.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they had like jarred animal parts and things in them,

687
00:39:15.519 --> 00:39:19.440
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, it definitely had a weird vibe where if

688
00:39:19.480 --> 00:39:21.920
<v Speaker 2>you didn't know there was a crocodile, you might think

689
00:39:22.519 --> 00:39:28.159
<v Speaker 2>that he just stumbled into a small town, uh filled

690
00:39:28.199 --> 00:39:28.880
<v Speaker 2>with murderers.

691
00:39:29.599 --> 00:39:33.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, which might also be true the Brisbane chainsaw messico.

692
00:39:35.199 --> 00:39:38.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, I mean that would have that goes with

693
00:39:38.320 --> 00:39:43.039
<v Speaker 1>my uh Russell the widower being a serial killers in

694
00:39:43.079 --> 00:39:43.440
<v Speaker 1>the town.

695
00:39:47.159 --> 00:39:49.119
<v Speaker 2>Both things could be true. Just because we didn't see

696
00:39:49.119 --> 00:39:52.960
<v Speaker 2>anyone being killed by a human doesn't mean that it

697
00:39:53.119 --> 00:39:54.639
<v Speaker 2>wasn't happening off screen.

698
00:39:55.159 --> 00:40:01.159
<v Speaker 1>Maybe he killed his wife, who knows? Uh, just good.

699
00:40:04.079 --> 00:40:05.440
<v Speaker 1>Is there anything else in the film that you wanted

700
00:40:05.440 --> 00:40:07.039
<v Speaker 1>to talk about? Anything we've missed?

701
00:40:07.400 --> 00:40:11.840
<v Speaker 2>I did really like So when the riverboat cruise capsizes,

702
00:40:12.079 --> 00:40:15.679
<v Speaker 2>it runs into an island in the middle of the river,

703
00:40:16.400 --> 00:40:18.559
<v Speaker 2>and once they're on it. I believe it was Russell

704
00:40:18.679 --> 00:40:22.000
<v Speaker 2>who says this is a tidal river, so the water

705
00:40:22.199 --> 00:40:25.920
<v Speaker 2>will continue to rise and by morning the island wouldn't

706
00:40:25.920 --> 00:40:30.159
<v Speaker 2>even be there anymore, which drives the action of having

707
00:40:30.239 --> 00:40:34.079
<v Speaker 2>to get get to the shoreline on the other side

708
00:40:34.199 --> 00:40:39.400
<v Speaker 2>to escape. I thought that was a very fun plot device.

709
00:40:40.079 --> 00:40:44.719
<v Speaker 2>It it made things like more exciting, and seeing how

710
00:40:44.880 --> 00:40:48.039
<v Speaker 2>the island was getting smaller was very cool to see.

711
00:40:48.199 --> 00:40:53.280
<v Speaker 2>From a production aspect of the movie I was interested in.

712
00:40:53.760 --> 00:40:55.880
<v Speaker 2>I didn't really read up on, you know, if there's

713
00:40:55.880 --> 00:40:58.719
<v Speaker 2>any behind the scenes on that about how they kind

714
00:40:58.760 --> 00:41:02.400
<v Speaker 2>of created that, like because you could clearly see the

715
00:41:02.480 --> 00:41:08.400
<v Speaker 2>island getting smaller as it goes. But that was a

716
00:41:08.760 --> 00:41:12.000
<v Speaker 2>fun way to have them like add another.

717
00:41:11.880 --> 00:41:16.880
<v Speaker 1>Obstacle, so the ticking clock element to it, which yeah,

718
00:41:16.960 --> 00:41:19.360
<v Speaker 1>I like that as well. I mean it adds some

719
00:41:19.440 --> 00:41:22.440
<v Speaker 1>propulsion to the blot and I like every every now

720
00:41:22.480 --> 00:41:24.480
<v Speaker 1>and then you get a shot of like a little

721
00:41:24.519 --> 00:41:27.960
<v Speaker 1>footprint being filled with water just I guess the water

722
00:41:28.039 --> 00:41:30.159
<v Speaker 1>levels and the fire has not been put out by

723
00:41:30.199 --> 00:41:33.199
<v Speaker 1>the water. Yeah, that was that was good, Like this

724
00:41:33.280 --> 00:41:34.400
<v Speaker 1>is where the water goes up to and it was

725
00:41:34.440 --> 00:41:36.679
<v Speaker 1>still like enough land from water standal on the top

726
00:41:37.440 --> 00:41:41.000
<v Speaker 1>if they if they wanted to, but it would be

727
00:41:41.039 --> 00:41:42.559
<v Speaker 1>a lot easier for the crop to then just get

728
00:41:42.599 --> 00:41:44.039
<v Speaker 1>them because they would have been a lot they would

729
00:41:44.039 --> 00:41:45.440
<v Speaker 1>be near the water's edge at all times.

730
00:41:46.519 --> 00:41:48.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, that was good.

731
00:41:48.239 --> 00:41:50.400
<v Speaker 1>And when they get on the island, the boat radio

732
00:41:50.400 --> 00:41:52.639
<v Speaker 1>doesn't work or anything. So Russell's what it says is

733
00:41:52.719 --> 00:41:54.840
<v Speaker 1>it's a tieline. But he's also like, no bloody radio.

734
00:41:55.199 --> 00:41:58.280
<v Speaker 1>You got stuck in this with no bloody radio. And

735
00:41:58.719 --> 00:42:02.280
<v Speaker 1>he'd been like quite a nice, like why sedated character

736
00:42:02.320 --> 00:42:04.719
<v Speaker 1>at that point it just kicks off there's no radio,

737
00:42:05.559 --> 00:42:07.360
<v Speaker 1>which again, hey, it's it's in that kind of situation

738
00:42:07.440 --> 00:42:09.239
<v Speaker 1>you probably probably would. I've been watching a lot of

739
00:42:09.280 --> 00:42:13.000
<v Speaker 1>Australian films recently. With doing reptiles this year, a lot

740
00:42:13.000 --> 00:42:14.599
<v Speaker 1>of them seem to be said in Australia for some reason.

741
00:42:15.480 --> 00:42:18.719
<v Speaker 1>And then my favorite podcast, blank Check is doing the

742
00:42:18.760 --> 00:42:21.280
<v Speaker 1>films of Peter Weir, and so I've been watching a

743
00:42:21.280 --> 00:42:22.920
<v Speaker 1>bunch of Peter Weir films recently. And so I've just

744
00:42:22.960 --> 00:42:24.840
<v Speaker 1>been watching a bunch of Australian films and it's great

745
00:42:25.679 --> 00:42:27.960
<v Speaker 1>Australian films can there's there's got a great bunch of

746
00:42:28.039 --> 00:42:30.000
<v Speaker 1>films coming over. I just watched Gallipoli the other day,

747
00:42:30.920 --> 00:42:34.840
<v Speaker 1>which is is. It's like a Australian World War One

748
00:42:34.920 --> 00:42:40.239
<v Speaker 1>film with a pretty insanity. Mel Gibson in like the

749
00:42:40.320 --> 00:42:42.960
<v Speaker 1>co lead of it, and it's good. It's mainly like

750
00:42:43.039 --> 00:42:45.400
<v Speaker 1>war sucks, where is dumb? Don't do war is the

751
00:42:45.519 --> 00:42:48.639
<v Speaker 1>main takeaway from that film. But it's actually very well done.

752
00:42:49.480 --> 00:42:51.320
<v Speaker 1>And like the Cars that The Cars eight. Paris is

753
00:42:51.360 --> 00:42:57.159
<v Speaker 1>an odd little film. Not not Paris, France, Paris Australia.

754
00:42:57.679 --> 00:42:59.519
<v Speaker 1>There's too many Parises in the world. Theres at least three.

755
00:43:00.000 --> 00:43:05.000
<v Speaker 1>We don't need one. Yeah, it's fun. There's some good

756
00:43:05.039 --> 00:43:09.000
<v Speaker 1>films from from Peter Wick, uh, Australia in general, and

757
00:43:09.159 --> 00:43:11.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what other there's surely going to be

758
00:43:11.840 --> 00:43:15.800
<v Speaker 1>more cropping up in this series with so it's got

759
00:43:15.840 --> 00:43:19.199
<v Speaker 1>to be more from Australia. With me. They have all

760
00:43:19.239 --> 00:43:22.159
<v Speaker 1>the animals, sure, that's where the reptiles came from.

761
00:43:22.880 --> 00:43:25.719
<v Speaker 2>The other thing I was going to mention were the

762
00:43:26.000 --> 00:43:31.000
<v Speaker 2>other creatures that were attacking them the entire movie, which

763
00:43:31.280 --> 00:43:35.480
<v Speaker 2>was the flies flies, yes, which I imagine they were

764
00:43:35.559 --> 00:43:39.199
<v Speaker 2>actually just dealing with in real life and it looked miserable.

765
00:43:39.559 --> 00:43:41.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, people trying to act with flies on their faces. No,

766
00:43:42.039 --> 00:43:45.280
<v Speaker 1>thank you. They're just like landing on their cheeks or

767
00:43:45.280 --> 00:43:51.079
<v Speaker 1>there is what are you doing close up? This isn't no, no,

768
00:43:51.199 --> 00:43:55.440
<v Speaker 1>we can't do this. Stop it horrible. I hate it. Yeah,

769
00:43:56.480 --> 00:43:58.280
<v Speaker 1>there's a bunch of animals. I do like when they

770
00:43:58.320 --> 00:44:00.920
<v Speaker 1>pepper films with like shots of animals. Didn't need a

771
00:44:00.960 --> 00:44:02.920
<v Speaker 1>water buffalo to eat in by crocodile in the opening scene,

772
00:44:04.039 --> 00:44:06.519
<v Speaker 1>wasn't the fan, No thank you? And then there's just

773
00:44:06.639 --> 00:44:09.679
<v Speaker 1>like shots of a reptile of some guy like a

774
00:44:09.840 --> 00:44:11.559
<v Speaker 1>guana or something. Climbing a tree. Is probably not in

775
00:44:11.559 --> 00:44:14.159
<v Speaker 1>the iguana because it's not Miami. It's going to be

776
00:44:14.199 --> 00:44:16.039
<v Speaker 1>It's like climbing a tree as I'm going I just

777
00:44:16.159 --> 00:44:23.440
<v Speaker 1>like color in that way. Yeah, have the giant grasshoppers

778
00:44:24.119 --> 00:44:26.639
<v Speaker 1>clinging to little bits of little stems in the water

779
00:44:26.880 --> 00:44:31.719
<v Speaker 1>towards the end, just biro people doing biro of animals

780
00:44:31.920 --> 00:44:32.400
<v Speaker 1>in the world.

781
00:44:35.559 --> 00:44:39.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. That that was besides the, like you said, the

782
00:44:39.119 --> 00:44:42.760
<v Speaker 2>water buffalo dying at the beginning, all the other wildlife

783
00:44:42.800 --> 00:44:45.760
<v Speaker 2>shots were pretty fun. I had one last thing that

784
00:44:45.880 --> 00:44:50.079
<v Speaker 2>I was going to bring up. So the entire time

785
00:44:50.320 --> 00:44:53.960
<v Speaker 2>I've thought of this movie Rogue, since I brought it

786
00:44:54.079 --> 00:44:57.880
<v Speaker 2>up to you. I brought I told my husband Rob,

787
00:44:58.599 --> 00:45:03.239
<v Speaker 2>you know Rob. He was also there for the bowling

788
00:45:03.280 --> 00:45:08.360
<v Speaker 2>and fish and chips. I was like, it's about you know,

789
00:45:08.760 --> 00:45:15.840
<v Speaker 2>I probably said Alligator in Australia and it's starring Olivia Wilde,

790
00:45:17.079 --> 00:45:21.000
<v Speaker 2>different present, and I one percent told him I or

791
00:45:21.039 --> 00:45:24.320
<v Speaker 2>I one hundred percent thought that she was the lead

792
00:45:24.400 --> 00:45:26.400
<v Speaker 2>in this movie, or at least was in it. I

793
00:45:26.440 --> 00:45:30.440
<v Speaker 2>couldn't remember. I didn't necessarily think she was the riverboat

794
00:45:30.559 --> 00:45:34.440
<v Speaker 2>captain or you know, I didn't necessarily think she was Kate.

795
00:45:34.559 --> 00:45:36.960
<v Speaker 2>But maybe that is who I was thinking of, because

796
00:45:37.000 --> 00:45:40.360
<v Speaker 2>nobody else she doesn't even look like Olivia wild but

797
00:45:40.440 --> 00:45:44.239
<v Speaker 2>I can't imagine anyone else who did. And I looked

798
00:45:44.280 --> 00:45:48.559
<v Speaker 2>through Olivia Wilde's filmography. There is nothing that I could

799
00:45:48.599 --> 00:45:51.320
<v Speaker 2>have been mixing up in my brain. So I just

800
00:45:51.440 --> 00:45:52.000
<v Speaker 2>made that up.

801
00:45:53.360 --> 00:45:58.239
<v Speaker 1>So I thought this starn Rhonamitra because I always get

802
00:45:58.320 --> 00:46:01.400
<v Speaker 1>her and RDA. Mitchell mixed up because they have similar names.

803
00:46:01.559 --> 00:46:03.800
<v Speaker 1>And that's that's all it is, is the R and

804
00:46:03.880 --> 00:46:07.519
<v Speaker 1>the the meter and the Mitchell. So like I said

805
00:46:07.559 --> 00:46:11.440
<v Speaker 1>to A we're watching Crocodile film tonight. It's got Rhona Metro.

806
00:46:11.599 --> 00:46:11.880
<v Speaker 3>She was on.

807
00:46:12.039 --> 00:46:15.360
<v Speaker 1>She's like retired from acting for a while and went

808
00:46:15.480 --> 00:46:17.880
<v Speaker 1>just lived in the Wild and she appeared on this

809
00:46:17.960 --> 00:46:20.440
<v Speaker 1>TV show called Ben Fog Lives in the Wild or something,

810
00:46:21.320 --> 00:46:24.519
<v Speaker 1>and she was on that and do you remember that show?

811
00:46:24.559 --> 00:46:26.480
<v Speaker 1>She like that lady. She's in this and she's not

812
00:46:26.599 --> 00:46:34.159
<v Speaker 1>in this different person. Yeah, this is This is rad

813
00:46:34.360 --> 00:46:40.920
<v Speaker 1>Rada Mitchell, who was in you know, Silent Hill and Neighbors,

814
00:46:41.880 --> 00:46:45.239
<v Speaker 1>h Pitch Black, Great and Pitch Black.

815
00:46:46.960 --> 00:46:50.519
<v Speaker 2>When the opening credits started, I was like, where's Olivia

816
00:46:50.599 --> 00:46:54.960
<v Speaker 2>Wilde's name? It's not here in this. Then I googled

817
00:46:55.000 --> 00:46:58.400
<v Speaker 2>it really quick and was like, what the hell was

818
00:46:58.480 --> 00:46:59.000
<v Speaker 2>I thinking?

819
00:47:00.280 --> 00:47:03.000
<v Speaker 1>She's just like Michael Vartan is the guy and stuff.

820
00:47:03.039 --> 00:47:05.440
<v Speaker 1>She's very much the lady in the Olympus Has Fallen

821
00:47:05.559 --> 00:47:10.440
<v Speaker 1>trilogy where she's like Gerard Butler's wife, but like at

822
00:47:10.480 --> 00:47:13.320
<v Speaker 1>the start of both of them in the first two,

823
00:47:13.360 --> 00:47:16.880
<v Speaker 1>and then she was recast in the third one. Oh yeah,

824
00:47:18.199 --> 00:47:23.719
<v Speaker 1>because then she has more to do, so so they can't.

825
00:47:24.079 --> 00:47:29.960
<v Speaker 1>I want to say it was God, Piper Baraboo. I think, yeah,

826
00:47:30.039 --> 00:47:36.880
<v Speaker 1>Piper Perah. Apparently there's rather Mitchell had a scheduled scheduling conflict.

827
00:47:38.000 --> 00:47:38.400
<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm.

828
00:47:39.519 --> 00:47:44.639
<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's the shame. Okay, great, Well, I leaved even

829
00:47:44.679 --> 00:47:46.880
<v Speaker 1>through all of my notes, I think normally at this time,

830
00:47:47.000 --> 00:47:49.079
<v Speaker 1>listeners is listeners. If this is your first time listening

831
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<v Speaker 1>to the show, welcomes. This is Deeply see the podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>When I go through the film, I also go through

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<v Speaker 1>it and work out how deep all the action takes place,

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<v Speaker 1>out how blue everything is on screen, and how much

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<v Speaker 1>of it takes place at sea. My day has gone

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<v Speaker 1>to pop today and I haven't had a chance to

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<v Speaker 1>do that. Jess, I'm sorry. I will do that before

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<v Speaker 1>this episode gets released, but I don't have the figures now. However,

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<v Speaker 1>you can still make your guess because still like guess

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<v Speaker 1>how much you think it is, and then I can

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<v Speaker 1>put in how right or wrong you were later.

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<v Speaker 2>So sorry, it's okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So Deeply is of course on average fourteen and a

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<v Speaker 1>half meters of forty seven and a half feet deep,

845
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<v Speaker 1>about thirty one percent blue and eighty nine percent of

846
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<v Speaker 1>it takes place at sea. Do you think do you

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<v Speaker 1>think Rogue is deeper blue or more at sea than deeplu.

848
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<v Speaker 2>Sy I would say less on all accounts.

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<v Speaker 1>I would agree as well, probably because I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, they're in the caves at the end are underground,

851
00:48:45.239 --> 00:48:47.960
<v Speaker 1>so I'll count that as being deep. It's not a

852
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<v Speaker 1>terribly blue film as most of these films you have,

853
00:48:51.559 --> 00:48:53.800
<v Speaker 1>like Blue in the Sky, but the water seems pretty murky.

854
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<v Speaker 1>And then never at sea, not a single second lay

855
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<v Speaker 1>at see it's a river, never at sea. They're salt

856
00:49:00.079 --> 00:49:02.639
<v Speaker 1>to crocodiles. But it's a river's a saltwater river. So

857
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<v Speaker 1>zero yes, So this is Jay's jumping back in after

858
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<v Speaker 1>we recorded. I have now done the full deep blue

859
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<v Speaker 1>sea analysis of Rogue, and as predicted, not a very

860
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<v Speaker 1>deep film works out being eleven centimeters or zero point

861
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<v Speaker 1>three seven feet in underwater, so it's slightly deeper than

862
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<v Speaker 1>Lifeboat and slightly less deep than Ghost Shark sixty one

863
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<v Speaker 1>on the ranking blueness. Not a very blue film two

864
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<v Speaker 1>point zero three percent blue, which is slightly bluer than

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<v Speaker 1>Five Days of War, slightly less blue than the deep

866
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<v Speaker 1>Blue Sea at two point zero fourth, very close, very close,

867
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<v Speaker 1>one hundred and forty three on the ranking blueness. And

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<v Speaker 1>just as we said, zero percent at sea, never at

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<v Speaker 1>sea for a second, but thirty point six percent of

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<v Speaker 1>it is at water on the water, so that's more

871
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<v Speaker 1>at water than night swim less at Water than Fit

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<v Speaker 1>Belo neither which error in the sea either. Back to

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<v Speaker 1>the show, but one thing we have been doing is

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<v Speaker 1>how thematically Deep Blue and at Sea is this film

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<v Speaker 1>in comparisons deeply see? And that means right, that's the

876
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<v Speaker 1>correct expression should have on your face, because we haven't

877
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<v Speaker 1>got any kind of figures to quantify this. This is

878
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<v Speaker 1>just pure vibes. So depth wise are the characters in

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<v Speaker 1>Rogue like deeper? Is there more to them as like

880
00:50:30.800 --> 00:50:32.639
<v Speaker 1>characters than in Deep Lucy?

881
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<v Speaker 2>Interesting? I do think that this movie does a good

882
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<v Speaker 2>job of establishing sort of what's going on with the

883
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<v Speaker 2>different characters very quickly and giving them the like just

884
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<v Speaker 2>a little bit of like a personality and a tiny

885
00:50:53.079 --> 00:50:56.360
<v Speaker 2>bit of backstory for some of them. But I would

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<v Speaker 2>say in comparison, I I would say, compared to the

887
00:51:06.119 --> 00:51:11.000
<v Speaker 2>Alzheimer's storyline, that goes deeper than like all the surface

888
00:51:11.119 --> 00:51:12.199
<v Speaker 2>level stuff of Rogue.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, I think that's fair. I think some of the

890
00:51:18.360 --> 00:51:21.760
<v Speaker 1>smaller characters have more depth to them in Rogue than

891
00:51:21.840 --> 00:51:26.079
<v Speaker 1>in Deep For instance, that the likes you know, we'd

892
00:51:26.119 --> 00:51:29.639
<v Speaker 1>have Edittori on this show, but she doesn't. Her characters

893
00:51:29.639 --> 00:51:33.360
<v Speaker 1>don't have a lot to do in Deep she's just like, Hey,

894
00:51:33.440 --> 00:51:38.320
<v Speaker 1>she's loud, she likes to party, she's she's she's exploded. Okay,

895
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<v Speaker 1>So I think like that that kind of comparable levels

896
00:51:41.280 --> 00:51:44.159
<v Speaker 1>of that to the characters here. The overall, I think

897
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<v Speaker 1>more depth and deep bluer, how happy or sad? Other

898
00:51:49.960 --> 00:51:53.559
<v Speaker 1>characters in Rogue sadder? Are they more blue than in Deeplus?

899
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<v Speaker 2>Would you say, now, is this like pre animal attack

900
00:51:57.880 --> 00:52:00.719
<v Speaker 2>or or post animal attack through throughout?

901
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, hard to hard to judge this one.

902
00:52:04.440 --> 00:52:10.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I would say more in in Rogue because there

903
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<v Speaker 2>is a child involved, Yeah, that it changes things. And

904
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<v Speaker 2>there's a dog, well is there a dog? Indepussy, there's

905
00:52:23.480 --> 00:52:27.280
<v Speaker 2>a there's a bird in right, of course, of course

906
00:52:27.320 --> 00:52:32.360
<v Speaker 2>there's a bird. Oh that is really sad too. I'm

907
00:52:32.400 --> 00:52:35.320
<v Speaker 2>gonna say Rogue is maybe a little sadder because of

908
00:52:35.400 --> 00:52:40.880
<v Speaker 2>the whole like widow and the child losing her father

909
00:52:41.039 --> 00:52:44.440
<v Speaker 2>in front of her while her mother is like, seems

910
00:52:44.480 --> 00:52:47.559
<v Speaker 2>like she's dying soon. So I'll go with that.

911
00:52:48.039 --> 00:52:49.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's one of the things we do. But up

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00:52:49.480 --> 00:52:52.719
<v Speaker 1>against in deeps is when characters die, people don't often

913
00:52:52.800 --> 00:52:56.519
<v Speaker 1>care that much. You get like this is for skugs,

914
00:52:57.119 --> 00:52:59.480
<v Speaker 1>and you get like, yeah, preacher doing it like, oh

915
00:53:00.920 --> 00:53:02.440
<v Speaker 1>are you all that made it? You get like a

916
00:53:02.480 --> 00:53:07.920
<v Speaker 1>little like sad response from from Susan and that's about it.

917
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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I think because this is this is like

918
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<v Speaker 1>small small like families that really know each other, where

919
00:53:15.360 --> 00:53:17.920
<v Speaker 1>like people are taking out mid family kind of thing.

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00:53:18.039 --> 00:53:25.159
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, John Wayne's partner like she loses him to

921
00:53:25.239 --> 00:53:31.159
<v Speaker 2>lose down mind. Yeah, but that's very traumatic.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely. And then at see other characters in Rogue more

923
00:53:36.079 --> 00:53:38.280
<v Speaker 1>lost than in Deep Busy.

924
00:53:40.199 --> 00:53:44.480
<v Speaker 2>Well Simon with his the Man the Legend, suret he

925
00:53:44.559 --> 00:53:45.679
<v Speaker 2>definitely seems lost.

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00:53:46.159 --> 00:53:56.719
<v Speaker 1>He seems like a loser. Sure, I think they are

927
00:53:56.840 --> 00:53:59.920
<v Speaker 1>more lost in Rogue. They don't know where they are,

928
00:54:00.960 --> 00:54:02.760
<v Speaker 1>whereas in Deep Sy they know where they are. They're

929
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<v Speaker 1>on a guadaca.

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00:54:04.760 --> 00:54:07.360
<v Speaker 2>Well, yes, if you look at it that way, that's

931
00:54:07.480 --> 00:54:11.360
<v Speaker 2>definitely true. Yes, they are definitely lost. People see that.

932
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<v Speaker 2>You know, they know exactly where they are, ye.

933
00:54:13.920 --> 00:54:19.960
<v Speaker 1>Where they work, They've been there a bunch of times. Yeah. Yeah, great,

934
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<v Speaker 1>So that's we haven't worked out a way of tapulating

935
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<v Speaker 1>this in the Crath or anything. It's just a way

936
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<v Speaker 1>we'd like to end of the show sometimes. So good,

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<v Speaker 1>uh great, So that I think that that will do

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<v Speaker 1>it for rogue.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I thought I had two other notes. Actually, I

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<v Speaker 2>was saving for this for the Deep Blue Cy comparison,

941
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<v Speaker 2>because I know sometimes you bring up like scenes that

942
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<v Speaker 2>relate back to Deep Lucy. There was two things, okay

943
00:54:46.000 --> 00:54:49.119
<v Speaker 2>that I jotted down. When the father is killed, it

944
00:54:49.360 --> 00:54:53.159
<v Speaker 2>is a little Sam Jackson like he's not making a speech,

945
00:54:53.960 --> 00:54:56.599
<v Speaker 2>but it comes up behind him and takes him out,

946
00:54:56.639 --> 00:54:59.920
<v Speaker 2>and it's a shocking moment. And also at the end

947
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<v Speaker 2>and Kate is being hauled away on a by a helicopter.

948
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<v Speaker 2>Now she isn't attacked or there's no storm going on,

949
00:55:10.920 --> 00:55:11.920
<v Speaker 2>but it did remind me.

950
00:55:12.000 --> 00:55:14.159
<v Speaker 1>Of that she is not later used to break a

951
00:55:14.199 --> 00:55:16.920
<v Speaker 1>giant window underwater. But the style of the scene is

952
00:55:17.360 --> 00:55:22.199
<v Speaker 1>certainly Yeah, those are both. And and when they're doing

953
00:55:22.239 --> 00:55:24.039
<v Speaker 1>the rope bridge thing and they fall off that that's

954
00:55:24.119 --> 00:55:26.159
<v Speaker 1>kind of like Janis falls off of the ladder in

955
00:55:26.280 --> 00:55:29.000
<v Speaker 1>the tower. Oh yeah, yeah, but Janis dies in that

956
00:55:29.039 --> 00:55:34.159
<v Speaker 1>scenes true, And there's a giant animal both of them

957
00:55:34.400 --> 00:55:41.840
<v Speaker 1>eat people of course, would big I think rogue is

958
00:55:41.840 --> 00:55:43.920
<v Speaker 1>a good title for this. I'm assuming it's like it's

959
00:55:43.960 --> 00:55:47.639
<v Speaker 1>the it's a rogue crocodile, a word I don't know

960
00:55:47.639 --> 00:55:53.000
<v Speaker 1>if it E've actually said in this probably is there

961
00:55:53.079 --> 00:55:56.639
<v Speaker 1>was an there's another film, is it? With the Rogue

962
00:55:57.239 --> 00:56:01.840
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty with Megan Fox? Megan Fox lion film called

963
00:56:03.039 --> 00:56:05.239
<v Speaker 1>which I have seen and do not remember.

964
00:56:07.320 --> 00:56:10.559
<v Speaker 2>Is that also like an attack? Like the lions attacking people?

965
00:56:11.920 --> 00:56:15.719
<v Speaker 1>It's it's Megan Fox plays like a mercenary. She's like

966
00:56:15.760 --> 00:56:17.519
<v Speaker 1>head of a mercenary team that's sent to go and

967
00:56:17.679 --> 00:56:22.079
<v Speaker 1>retrieve someone and then they encounter a lion along the way.

968
00:56:23.159 --> 00:56:26.519
<v Speaker 1>It's in Africa. I saw it. I think I saw

969
00:56:26.559 --> 00:56:33.480
<v Speaker 1>it in the cinema. Yeah, pass one of those films

970
00:56:33.559 --> 00:56:37.480
<v Speaker 1>that I watched and then it fell out of my head. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>When I when I was searching for our emails about Rogue,

972
00:56:43.000 --> 00:56:47.360
<v Speaker 2>it had a shocking number of results because it brought

973
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<v Speaker 2>up a ton of emails about Rogue one and Mission Impossible.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't I didn't recall that we discussed those films

975
00:56:57.559 --> 00:56:59.760
<v Speaker 1>quite so much every email. But I mean, you did

976
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<v Speaker 1>a whole.

977
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<v Speaker 2>Podcast, but I just searched Sea.

978
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<v Speaker 1>Because you did a whole STOs podcast, So, but you

979
00:57:07.400 --> 00:57:08.840
<v Speaker 1>didn't have a Rogue one in that.

980
00:57:09.039 --> 00:57:12.880
<v Speaker 2>I think it just was French to Sunday related emails

981
00:57:13.280 --> 00:57:17.480
<v Speaker 2>and like Lamb Cast. Emails about doing episodes about those.

982
00:57:17.440 --> 00:57:20.320
<v Speaker 1>Movies were definitely from me at the time. Yeah, that

983
00:57:20.440 --> 00:57:24.559
<v Speaker 1>was my tenure. Excellent. Well, do you have anything anything

984
00:57:24.599 --> 00:57:27.079
<v Speaker 1>that you want to plug any any current podcasting product,

985
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<v Speaker 1>projects or future or past anything else.

986
00:57:30.960 --> 00:57:33.280
<v Speaker 2>No, I don't. I don't have anything to bring up.

987
00:57:34.440 --> 00:57:36.320
<v Speaker 1>And if you want to listen to Jazz on First

988
00:57:36.360 --> 00:57:39.280
<v Speaker 1>Las Sunday, you can't because it's been taken down. I

989
00:57:39.400 --> 00:57:42.639
<v Speaker 1>can because I have an archive, but I'm not supposed to.

990
00:57:43.679 --> 00:57:44.719
<v Speaker 2>Pit j up for it.

991
00:57:44.960 --> 00:57:48.119
<v Speaker 1>Hit me up, I'll send anything or not. Yeah, the

992
00:57:48.239 --> 00:57:52.679
<v Speaker 1>falls are huge, but there we are. It's fine. Uh good, excellent. Well,

993
00:57:52.679 --> 00:57:55.119
<v Speaker 1>you can follow this podcast all over social media at

994
00:57:55.320 --> 00:57:59.599
<v Speaker 1>Deep Blue Sea Deep we see pod or email step

995
00:57:59.599 --> 00:58:01.960
<v Speaker 1>we see pod, Gmail dot com. My personal site is

996
00:58:02.039 --> 00:58:05.880
<v Speaker 1>life is This Film dot com. I should have some

997
00:58:06.079 --> 00:58:09.159
<v Speaker 1>more David Lynch reviews up by the time this comes up,

998
00:58:09.199 --> 00:58:13.480
<v Speaker 1>because I've finished my review of twenty twenty five in March,

999
00:58:14.719 --> 00:58:18.360
<v Speaker 1>and since then I have watched Lost Highway and Inland

1000
00:58:18.400 --> 00:58:20.920
<v Speaker 1>Empire and The Straight Stories, so that we'll be reviews

1001
00:58:21.000 --> 00:58:24.800
<v Speaker 1>those soon and then hopefully I'll be getting onto Twin Peaks.

1002
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<v Speaker 1>The return seen by episode of episodes and reviewing that there.

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<v Speaker 1>So Lifeless is film dot com is where you can

1004
00:58:30.239 --> 00:58:32.920
<v Speaker 1>read that. I'll be doing an episode but episode recap,

1005
00:58:33.760 --> 00:58:35.760
<v Speaker 1>watch along kind of things I haven't seen them before.

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<v Speaker 2>Cool.

1007
00:58:38.920 --> 00:58:42.360
<v Speaker 1>Next week will probably be an episode on and Deep

1008
00:58:42.440 --> 00:58:45.639
<v Speaker 1>we see a chapter of That's that's what we do here.

1009
00:58:46.480 --> 00:58:48.239
<v Speaker 1>We're near the end. We've got like two episodes left,

1010
00:58:48.239 --> 00:58:50.880
<v Speaker 1>I think, so we'll get we're they're nearly done. But

1011
00:58:51.119 --> 00:58:54.679
<v Speaker 1>as for Rogue, thank you once again to my incredible

1012
00:58:54.679 --> 00:58:56.760
<v Speaker 1>guest Jess Manzo. Thank you for waiting so long to

1013
00:58:56.880 --> 00:59:02.679
<v Speaker 1>cover the films in the banking I have been Jake

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<v Speaker 1>Bluer and we'll Deep Blue see you next week.

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<v Speaker 2>H