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<v Speaker 1>So let me just do a number of things before

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<v Speaker 1>we start. I do believe this class, we will get

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<v Speaker 1>to the Lavaterbian. My mother keeps asking me, I first

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<v Speaker 1>want to go back to last class. I want. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have this picture handy. Thank you to David Eisen

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<v Speaker 1>for showing it to me. Here. Where is it on

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<v Speaker 1>my scream? Here? Here it is? You should see it? Now?

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<v Speaker 1>Can you see it? I don't have my own thing? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So this is he's a show height from Morocco. And

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<v Speaker 1>what is he holding there? He's holding a partridge. And

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<v Speaker 1>I have the letter you can see on Rabbi Zivatowski's

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<v Speaker 1>website about the testifying that they used to shaft it.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's a kosher bird. So if anyone wants to

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<v Speaker 1>eat the partridge, be my guest. Just getting my other

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<v Speaker 1>screen up in here, a couple other things I want

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<v Speaker 1>to show you. I listened to the video and no

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<v Speaker 1>one corrected me on this point. I couldn't believe I

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<v Speaker 1>said it. We were talking about Italy and I said

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<v Speaker 1>that the only two communities are Rome and Livorno. Of

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<v Speaker 1>course there's Milan, Milansa, the second largest community after Rome,

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<v Speaker 1>and you have Rabbad there and you have Sparta juice

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<v Speaker 1>and very very nice community as well. What else do

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<v Speaker 1>I want to show you? Oh, you'll be very happy,

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<v Speaker 1>Rabbi Kelman with this, and I think I will send

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<v Speaker 1>this to you. Hold on, uh in case you didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have it, I know you would, you were very concerned

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<v Speaker 1>about it. But hold on, where is it? Oh boy,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll get it here. I have lots of you see

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<v Speaker 1>all the stuff I want to show you. Uh, if

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<v Speaker 1>you recognize who that is, hold on, ah, here it

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<v Speaker 1>is a mask that's coach. In case you were wondering,

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<v Speaker 1>there you go, maybe because there's kidneyos or something in it,

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<v Speaker 1>but uh, it hasn't reached America yet. But here this is.

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<v Speaker 1>This was taken in Israel last week and uh it's

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<v Speaker 1>under the uh hassom sofa hashkaka. It's a big hashkoha.

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<v Speaker 1>And if I have been a brock, I believe. And

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<v Speaker 1>you can never get your coastal lasa uh COVID mask anyone.

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<v Speaker 1>If in case you're wondering why you need it, well

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<v Speaker 1>chalk that up to all the other things that have

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<v Speaker 1>has that are needed. But look, Jews need Parnasso, so

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<v Speaker 1>they come up with these things. What can I tell

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<v Speaker 1>you I had nice correspondence with someone and I, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>here here's the story. I give full names. You'll hear

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<v Speaker 1>when I ask or when people tell me. Other than that,

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<v Speaker 1>I only give first names unless I feel there's, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no reason. Then I don't give any names. But

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<v Speaker 1>one of you who actually I forgot who it was,

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<v Speaker 1>I won't mention the name. We're talking about this this

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<v Speaker 1>thing I was speaking about about Gamara only being for

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<v Speaker 1>the elite. So he asked me, is that something that's

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<v Speaker 1>I think only recently or in the olden days that

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<v Speaker 1>everyone will be expected to learn? And I actually think

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<v Speaker 1>this is the way it always was. And I'll give

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<v Speaker 1>you the proof of this. Unless you think this is

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<v Speaker 1>not a good proof. I want to show you what

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<v Speaker 1>the mid Rush says. Well, here's the mid Russian vakuroba,

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<v Speaker 1>and it says as follows. You see where the moreker

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<v Speaker 1>is here, it's it's saying, but no hagg shibo, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>the practice in the world is el A thousand people

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<v Speaker 1>go and study mikra yoya. About one hundred of them

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<v Speaker 1>are one tenth of them are successful. Of this hundred

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<v Speaker 1>male amshna, one hundred will study Mishna Sara ten will

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<v Speaker 1>come out successful. And of those asara a Talmud ten

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<v Speaker 1>will study Talmud, only one will be successful. So what

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<v Speaker 1>we see among this is that already even in the

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<v Speaker 1>time of the Midrash, they're talking about how for the

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<v Speaker 1>for the average person and by and that's so they

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<v Speaker 1>they give a drussia here as I recall you, Masasi

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<v Speaker 1>from Cohalis Uh, so that you see already in the Midrash,

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<v Speaker 1>this period which is taking us back. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what we sixth century, seventh century. I'm not concerned when

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<v Speaker 1>it was actually put together edited, But these traditions go

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<v Speaker 1>way back, uh. And they are already they saying there

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<v Speaker 1>that of a thousand people, one you will have who's

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<v Speaker 1>yoats say? I guess that means to be an expert,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe to give a lot of decisions. But you see

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<v Speaker 1>already out of one thousand and only ten of them

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<v Speaker 1>go on to study Gamarus. So we're doing a lot

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<v Speaker 1>better than they were doing at the time in the

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<v Speaker 1>Midrush if you look at it that way. Okay, Matthew Miller,

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<v Speaker 1>he called my attention to the following. Remember I mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>Rabbi Mazus. He said about WHYU he heard that there's

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<v Speaker 1>a guy at Yu who wrote a book showing how

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<v Speaker 1>everything derives from the Hebrew language English. Also all the words.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know what he was referring to. Thank you,

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<v Speaker 1>Matthew Miller. Someone at Yu. I guess it's from the seventies,

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<v Speaker 1>Isaac Ohan and Moses, and I don't know where he

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<v Speaker 1>is now. But if you let's see, let me close

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<v Speaker 1>this up here show you what he wrote. This is

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<v Speaker 1>what Rabbi Mazuz was referring to. He actually published a

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<v Speaker 1>book on the topic and you can buy it. The

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<v Speaker 1>word the dictionary there reveals the Hebrew source of English.

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<v Speaker 1>That's Isaac, moseson that's Uh and Isaac. And Matthew Miller

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<v Speaker 1>called my attention to another thing. Get his paper here.

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<v Speaker 1>This is from a sermon. If you go to Yu,

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<v Speaker 1>you have all the sermons of Rebbe Lamb. He he

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<v Speaker 1>was incredible. He wrote everything down, he typed it all

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<v Speaker 1>up and then he and now they've published plenty of them.

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<v Speaker 1>But here is one of his sermons, say goodbye to

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<v Speaker 1>the cousin and the mask. What Matthew pointed out, which

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<v Speaker 1>is interesting, is that he wrote out the words you

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<v Speaker 1>see here vaka at mateel him bi Adeau. He wrote it,

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<v Speaker 1>he typed it out. He actually wrote God's name, which

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<v Speaker 1>you're allowed to do, but you can't throw it out then,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're accustomed not to do that. But it's significant

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<v Speaker 1>or interesting at least that rebby Lamb since he's writing Torah,

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't feel a problem in writing out Uh. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not the tetragramaton, but he didn't feel the problem with

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<v Speaker 1>writing it out. Two more things mel Mel asked a

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<v Speaker 1>question last week, and then we're gonna get back to

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<v Speaker 1>Bavor and that will be the last thing mel asked.

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<v Speaker 1>I mentioned the reveliab and a Mosic who talks about Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>It's actually in his uh A Mattmufkilla. If you look

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<v Speaker 1>in his u is a mat Mafkia, page volume two,

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<v Speaker 1>page two B. He speaks about all these things that

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<v Speaker 1>we're uh. He thinks that it's Gilgel. So for example,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a Talmudic opinion that what as they saying love

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<v Speaker 1>on is? I forget who it is? Uh. I'll read

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<v Speaker 1>you some of the things he has here. Co is

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<v Speaker 1>is dar Jovash and who is love on? I forgot

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<v Speaker 1>to love on is? Uh? I forgot which who identify

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<v Speaker 1>uh love on his bill? Yeah, how could love them?

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<v Speaker 1>And he says it's all Gilgel. And then there's the

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<v Speaker 1>one of pinchasenel Yaho. That's the one we spoke about. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>Rebena Mosic is not the first one to say Eliahu already.

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<v Speaker 1>The zoar says that the question is what does that mean?

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<v Speaker 1>That's what mel asked me. And Uh. There's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of different interpretations of it. There are some who think

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<v Speaker 1>it's gil Go. In fact, before Ben and Mosic, I

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<v Speaker 1>found that Macha Recanati he's in the fourth century. I

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<v Speaker 1>believe he says that. But the rod Bas doesn't say that.

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<v Speaker 1>The rod Baz simply says that Eliao's from the same

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<v Speaker 1>show Rish and Shama. I guess that's the term they use.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh that so they have some spiritual characteristic. Incidentally, when

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<v Speaker 1>you deal with reincarnation, I got an email today all

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<v Speaker 1>the rabbad do at the same time. Mom, hold on

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<v Speaker 1>a second, let me show you something here. All the

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<v Speaker 1>rabbad Uh, yes, okay, I found it on my computer.

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<v Speaker 1>Here they I got the same thing there did all

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<v Speaker 1>the Kabbad's all over the world deal with uh? They

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<v Speaker 1>say they have these classes that the experts in Crown

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<v Speaker 1>Heights of and then they send it out and they

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<v Speaker 1>send them all source material. So this week it's less

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<v Speaker 1>than number five reincarnation more than a fascinating topic. Judaism

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<v Speaker 1>provides a practical way to imagine this mystical process and

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<v Speaker 1>explains why it is important both to departed souls and

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<v Speaker 1>our lives today. This isn't the sort of thing that

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<v Speaker 1>we have in our typical modern orthodoxical but haabad, as

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<v Speaker 1>we saw it in Kabbalah, it's essential. So therefore they're

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<v Speaker 1>doing it. One more point before we go on, take

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<v Speaker 1>you back to last class. I said about this phrase,

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<v Speaker 1>can anyone just bave worn? It's right here? And I said,

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<v Speaker 1>I've never heard that as yeshivash. And some of you

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<v Speaker 1>wrote to me that maybe it means because that's the

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<v Speaker 1>word for warn, like annyone's warn, But that what sense

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<v Speaker 1>would that make? It's worn as hastraw we say give astra.

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<v Speaker 1>But three people emailed me and they pointed out that

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<v Speaker 1>I did not know this. I guess maybe why you

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<v Speaker 1>trained Rushi Yeshiva don' use the term. But it definitely

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<v Speaker 1>is a term, although it not the way he uses

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<v Speaker 1>it can anyone just bavorn. So for example, uh uh

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<v Speaker 1>Yahuda sends me, Uh, you would say, for example, the

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<v Speaker 1>basil safe already bavorned the lavicious question. What does it

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<v Speaker 1>mean to bavorn the question? It means to address or

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<v Speaker 1>to account for? Morty said emailed me that it means

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<v Speaker 1>also to to to raise the to raise an issue.

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<v Speaker 1>But Salo says it's to to bevorn something is to

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<v Speaker 1>preclude it. Morty says, it's to bring attention to something.

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<v Speaker 1>So I I said that last class. Maybe someone will

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<v Speaker 1>come up with the answer. And uh, I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>they say that at Gush. But uh, there is such

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<v Speaker 1>a thing bavorn in Yeshivah circles, so which I did

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<v Speaker 1>not know, at least in Yeshiva circles I was in.

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<v Speaker 1>I maybe I did hear of it, but I did

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<v Speaker 1>not remember it. Okay, that is enough for today. I

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<v Speaker 1>have some other things, but I want to continue with

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<v Speaker 1>where we are because we have good stuff as always,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're picking up in the Safair on page three

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<v Speaker 1>eleven simon kufmem Dalad, and there's a there's a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of things here. Well, first, I don't need to get

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<v Speaker 1>into much details. But a rabbei Mazus begins as follow

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<v Speaker 1>this is interesting in this letter to me. This is

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<v Speaker 1>from twenty seventeen. He says, I received your letter. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have time to reply from all the you know,

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<v Speaker 1>busy work troubles comin an ashim bavim meleim, everyone sending

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<v Speaker 1>letters and emails. And what are they saying that they

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<v Speaker 1>had a problem with me? Lama animuskirchel la chivalle. And

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<v Speaker 1>why am I raising all these questions about philosophical matters?

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<v Speaker 1>And he says, they want to it's monrocham behole. They

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<v Speaker 1>want to put their head in the sands, just like

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<v Speaker 1>the Ostrich. And they want to know why I'm quoting Aristotle, Aristotle, Hebrews,

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<v Speaker 1>Aristo and Einstein and Bilick. And he says they forgot

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<v Speaker 1>the rumbam and Ravsadia gone. And he says, I decided

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<v Speaker 1>not to give the satura night sheer anymore, which has

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<v Speaker 1>been going on probably for twenty years. But then everyone

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<v Speaker 1>starts sending me more than one hundred letters I received

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<v Speaker 1>from all the groups from the Hurry Dan from the

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<v Speaker 1>team from the Rial name telling me that the shear

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<v Speaker 1>is important. So I'm continued to do it. Now, this

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<v Speaker 1>letter deals with a few different things. I only want

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<v Speaker 1>to focus on one. I'll briefly mention just actually two

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<v Speaker 1>point something out to him. But the Rumbam wroting. We

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<v Speaker 1>likes Ibn Ezra. There's a number of problems in this letter,

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<v Speaker 1>no question it's not real. It's not authentic. But Rabbi

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<v Speaker 1>of paragraphs saying, no, it's authentic. It's the Rombums approach,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's the Rombams language. And as for the attack,

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<v Speaker 1>and as for the attack on the the scholars of France, well,

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<v Speaker 1>of course he attacked them because he learned that they

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<v Speaker 1>that they believe in God has a physical form, and

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<v Speaker 1>all these things, and he goes on and on. You

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<v Speaker 1>can read it, but it's not true. With all due

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<v Speaker 1>respect to Rabbi Mazous, there's no doubt among the scholars

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<v Speaker 1>that this so called ethical well, if you ever see

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<v Speaker 1>it quoted, it's not authentic to the Rombum. It's that someone,

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<v Speaker 1>for whatever reason, decided to write it. But then it

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<v Speaker 1>eov Kamocha who job as it is, and he says,

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<v Speaker 1>as follows. He quotes his book and he says, which

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<v Speaker 1>biblical critics. So I wrote Youbamazoo's that apparently you don't

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<v Speaker 1>author battles with them. So who wrote this book Eov Komocha,

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<v Speaker 1>who the same person who wrote the book I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's called Yeshaia Isaiah was one against the idea that

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<v Speaker 1>the of of second Isaiah. So let me tell you

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<v Speaker 1>about one of the most fascinating families. They've all passed away,

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<v Speaker 1>but there are probably people listening to us right now

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<v Speaker 1>you by doing everyone till we get to the star

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<v Speaker 1>of the show, the person the author of this book.

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<v Speaker 1>But what family are we referring to here? Well, first,

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<v Speaker 1>does anyone know Mordechheimergolios. He's a great Talmudic scholar. He

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<v Speaker 1>wrote the books Encyclopedia Godolisrol. He edited the standard edition

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<v Speaker 1>of a Yikra Raba Leviticus Raba. He published a number

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<v Speaker 1>of other things. They taught it the seminary for many years.

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<v Speaker 1>He was married to a very interesting woman. But before

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<v Speaker 1>we get this woman, raj mol, let's talk about who

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<v Speaker 1>who her family is. The family is the Kolodetsky family,

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<v Speaker 1>and they had three sons that I know of, and

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<v Speaker 1>atleasta became famous. And one daughter, well, one of the

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<v Speaker 1>sons is Via kuitz ITZA Kulitz was a chief rabbi

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<v Speaker 1>of Jerusalem until he died in two thousand and three,

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<v Speaker 1>so a great post sake and important figure. Then another brother,

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<v Speaker 1>and his brother was Staklitz stay Colitz, who it says

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<v Speaker 1>he hearn in Subaka. He ended up in America. He

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<v Speaker 1>books was on let's see do you have it here? Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>the confrontation, the exception, existential thought of Rabbi Joseph P. B. Saliveitchik.

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<v Speaker 1>He taught it Yu. But he's famous because he wrote

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<v Speaker 1>something else. He wrote a book called an ass say

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<v Speaker 1>not a book a short story you so rockover talks

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<v Speaker 1>to God. What happened was in nineteen forty six, I

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<v Speaker 1>think it was he was sent by the Schnut to

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<v Speaker 1>Israel to be a sech newt of Israel, to go

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<v Speaker 1>to Argentina for Latin America to encourage Aliyah. And while

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<v Speaker 1>there he wrote in Yiddish for a Jewish newspaper there,

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<v Speaker 1>as you can see it right here, a story, a

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<v Speaker 1>fictional story that deals with the odyssey of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>having faith in the Holocaust even though you're suffering so much.

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<v Speaker 1>The problem was that, as it says here, a few

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<v Speaker 1>years after it published, someone picked it up. It was

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<v Speaker 1>translated into English and Hebrew, and it was passed off

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<v Speaker 1>and it was reprinted in numerous places as an actual story,

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<v Speaker 1>a true story, which it wasn't. It was a made

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<v Speaker 1>up story, and it was. It took him about twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five years before he was actually able to reclaim ownership

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<v Speaker 1>because this was published all over the place as a

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<v Speaker 1>true story of yusso rockover. Now it's uh, it's achieved,

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<v Speaker 1>it's achieved its renown. It's it's it's a wonderful story

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<v Speaker 1>if you haven't seen it, as it says. It was

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<v Speaker 1>published in an edition with what does it say here?

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<v Speaker 1>Slim volume with afterwards by a Manuel of Levinas and

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<v Speaker 1>Leon Whistle tier Lean Whistell. Tear is making a comeback,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, if you know what happened to him.

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<v Speaker 1>So it all depends if you believe that people should

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<v Speaker 1>be condemned forever. But he's definitely making a comeback. He

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<v Speaker 1>started an online journal of intellectual intellectual opinion. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>sibling number two see Klitz, and the third sibling is

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<v Speaker 1>him Klitz also Yeshiva trained a business person. He wrote

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<v Speaker 1>he's known in the Yeshiva world because he wrote he

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<v Speaker 1>was actually in the ar good. But he wrote a

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<v Speaker 1>book here you see it Jjosa Mirita, which is a

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<v Speaker 1>description from up close. Their families are very close of

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<v Speaker 1>the rash. And this book was controversial for the simple

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<v Speaker 1>reason that Chim Colitz spoke about something and everyone knows,

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<v Speaker 1>but no one will ever wanted to speak about but

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<v Speaker 1>everyone knows it. Subsequently, it's spoken about that the Rasis

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<v Speaker 1>did not have a good marriage, that his wife was

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<v Speaker 1>who was somewhat significantly older than him. In fact, he

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<v Speaker 1>married her when he found out that he was deceived

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<v Speaker 1>and how old she was. But he says he's not

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<v Speaker 1>going to allow a Jewish girl to be embarrassed this way.

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<v Speaker 1>But they did not have I mean, she would you

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<v Speaker 1>listen to them. Now there's a few more than a

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<v Speaker 1>couple other people written about it, like she would scream

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<v Speaker 1>and this, and it's it's it wasn't Look can I

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<v Speaker 1>say it wasn't a good marriage? And uh so Colets

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<v Speaker 1>writes about it, uh their marriage and uh so, of

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<v Speaker 1>course everyone wants to read about it because everyone wants

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<v Speaker 1>to know about the Hazniche. But then everyone attacks him

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<v Speaker 1>because he shouldn't have written about it. But everyone who's

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<v Speaker 1>that game, they want to read about it because it's interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>A student Shiva students would climb through the coras nishes window.

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<v Speaker 1>He would stay in the room with the door closed

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<v Speaker 1>and he'd open the window and he'd speak to them

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<v Speaker 1>from the window, or they would actually climb in because

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<v Speaker 1>his wife wouldn't allow anyone in the house. It was that,

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<v Speaker 1>it was. It was a strange situation. And uh uh,

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<v Speaker 1>so he writes about it. So it's a famous book.

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<v Speaker 1>It was only reprinted one time, and uh, I was

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<v Speaker 1>fortunate to find a copy in Israel. That's that's And

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<v Speaker 1>then they had a sister, and uh Wittfisher family with

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<v Speaker 1>a daughter. And here she is Rachel Colitz Kulitz or

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<v Speaker 1>when she was married Rachel Margolios. She only passed away

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<v Speaker 1>in two thousand and nine. She lived in America for

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<v Speaker 1>many years. Remember what I told you that her husband

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<v Speaker 1>the sixties to early seventies. And look at her books.

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<v Speaker 1>So she wrote Echa raya Yesheahu an iov Komoshahu, and

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<v Speaker 1>then she wrote another book about and these are very

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<v Speaker 1>interesting books. She is a woman who is a Torah scholar,

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<v Speaker 1>who's educated, who's writing books before this was popular before Nahamolibuwitz.

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<v Speaker 1>Really let me take that back on the same time, Nahamolibwitz.

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<v Speaker 1>But she's writing like from a Torah academic perspective. She

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<v Speaker 1>is someone who all these women at Migdalo's and Nishmat

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<v Speaker 1>and Lindenbaum, they should know about her. Her picture should

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<v Speaker 1>be on the wall because, uh, they're all following in

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<v Speaker 1>her footsteps not even knowing who she was. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>Rachel Margolios from the Kolwitz family. So Rabe Marzous, So

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<v Speaker 1>I write to him, I said that you said that

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<v Speaker 1>that Noam, that he went to war against you know

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<v Speaker 1>some of these critical theories. Did you not know that

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<v Speaker 1>it's actually not a man who wrote the book. It

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<v Speaker 1>was a woman who wrote the book. So it should

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<v Speaker 1>be no rama. And he says, as follows to me. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>he says, I know, yeah, Datti, I knew that she

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<v Speaker 1>was Rabbit Rachel Mars, the wife of doctor Mordechaim Margolios

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<v Speaker 1>and the sister of rabba Ya Kolitz and also the

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<v Speaker 1>sister of Hayen Kowitz, the author of a Jose Marita

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<v Speaker 1>and he doesn't know Si Kolitz. But Stikolitz again was

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<v Speaker 1>in America for all these years. And then he says

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<v Speaker 1>to them, why didn he saying noham, He says, uh, Nevertheless,

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<v Speaker 1>I wrote Blush on Zachar because of Sneel's reasons. Chilo

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<v Speaker 1>that people should not say that I'm mitva Mia, that

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<v Speaker 1>here I'm picking on a woman, I'm arguing with a woman.

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<v Speaker 1>And therefore, he says, you should read the sentences follows

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<v Speaker 1>he says, I intended the book. So when it says

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<v Speaker 1>ov a safer Eo of Komocha, who knew mahem, what

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<v Speaker 1>is it? It's the book is disputing with them, not

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<v Speaker 1>the person. But he says that he thinks, for Sneer reasons,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not good to have a man hu hey. Today

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<v Speaker 1>they'll say it's man'splaining or things like that. But look,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're writing an academic work, you need to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to uh. Men should be able to criticize women

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<v Speaker 1>and vice versa. But I don't know if this is

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<v Speaker 1>a Victorian thing. I don't know what he means by Sneel,

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<v Speaker 1>because I don't know how it is in a violation

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<v Speaker 1>of set, but to criticize a woman's writing. But and

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<v Speaker 1>he says, he says, because they would that they would

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<v Speaker 1>not say that I'm arguing with a woman. Maybe the

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<v Speaker 1>whole idea that you're disputing, I don't know. But so

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<v Speaker 1>he knew, he knew that it's written by a woman.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you haven't heard of Rahel Margoliot, like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>that she has not been given the do that she deserves.

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<v Speaker 1>That she's writing a top level stuff in I'll give

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<v Speaker 1>you the date. Let me see if it gives the dates.

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<v Speaker 1>Fifty four is her book on Yeshayahu and the book

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<v Speaker 1>on eo of it's it's showing it two nineteen eighty one, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>that's later. But so that's a Rachel Margoliot. Then the

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<v Speaker 1>next part of the letter is of interest also, especially

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<v Speaker 1>because we're coming to Pesa. We have another thing of

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<v Speaker 1>interest coming to Paso too today as well. Hopefully all

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<v Speaker 1>you see in the letter is he says, I've never

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<v Speaker 1>seen this book, Pelayo. It's this chew vote. So let

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<v Speaker 1>me explain what it is. I explained in the note.

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<v Speaker 1>Rabbi Mazous says, as follows, he published an article in

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<v Speaker 1>Ortoum in twenty fourteen. I can send it to anyone

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<v Speaker 1>who's interested. It's called Byankibus regarding matter of washing clothes

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<v Speaker 1>during holamo Aid because if you look at the sage

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<v Speaker 1>just said, you're not supposed to do the laundry at Holamoid.

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<v Speaker 1>And he says that this was in their time, that

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<v Speaker 1>it would all be they would mahab sin beyad, they

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<v Speaker 1>would do it all by hand at the river. It

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<v Speaker 1>would take forever, and therefore people would hold off. They

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<v Speaker 1>would keep the wash until Holomoid because they're so busy

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<v Speaker 1>preparing for the hog that they'd wait to Holomoid.

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<v Speaker 2>And do it.

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<v Speaker 1>And had Dafka didn't want to do that, so they said,

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<v Speaker 1>to do it beforehand. But he says today it's not

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<v Speaker 1>a tyrka, it's no big deal. You just throw it

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<v Speaker 1>in the wash and uh, it takes one minute. And

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<v Speaker 1>so so he has a whole piece here, two pages

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<v Speaker 1>explaining why it's a lockily there's no problem. And but

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<v Speaker 1>then in the end he says, nevertheless, most of the

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<v Speaker 1>acronym forbid it even today. And then he says, but

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<v Speaker 1>if you're already washing the kid's stuff. You're allout to

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<v Speaker 1>watch the kids stuff. You can throw in the adult

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<v Speaker 1>stuff as well, but he thinks that you can wash everything. Nevertheless,

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<v Speaker 1>he says, I don't want people to rely on me

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm you're ahrad. I'm one of the people who

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't like to make a lot of rulings, and if

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<v Speaker 1>they don't agree with me, then this is just behlaa

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<v Speaker 1>vla masa. Now this is an old question. What do

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<v Speaker 1>you say when you see a sock from someone where

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<v Speaker 1>they give all the reasons why something is holockically permissible,

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<v Speaker 1>but then in the end they say, don't rely on me.

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<v Speaker 1>You can look in the day Remit. He has a

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<v Speaker 1>whole section on this where he discusses it. Some hold

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<v Speaker 1>that basically you accept what the post sake says, and

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<v Speaker 1>the part where he says don't rely on me, you

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<v Speaker 1>say it's just modesty and you don't have to pay

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<v Speaker 1>attention to that. Others say that, no, you it means

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<v Speaker 1>that really he's not supposed to bear eyed upon this.

431
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<v Speaker 1>I think maybe most people apply the top The first

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<v Speaker 1>approach of the most famous chew vote in modern times

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<v Speaker 1>actually has that caveat of Jacob be Ettlinger the Bignon sion,

434
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<v Speaker 1>he has this chuva saying that today non stay Jews

435
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<v Speaker 1>who are mikhal Schabis. The Jews he's speaking about, they

436
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<v Speaker 1>maybe will go to show in the morning or they

437
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<v Speaker 1>have a shabas meal, but they still be mihaal shabas.

438
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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't they're not mahaal shabas like the Gamura speaks about.

439
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<v Speaker 1>From the Gamara speaks of mahal shabas someone who rejects God.

440
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<v Speaker 1>He's a heretic. No, we see they're not. They just

441
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<v Speaker 1>I coined the phrase they're God fearing Sabbath violators. And

442
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<v Speaker 1>we all know people like that. And Jaka Hetlinger says,

443
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<v Speaker 1>we don't apply to them this idea that you can't

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<v Speaker 1>can them in a minion and there will make the

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<v Speaker 1>wine nogad and all that. It's a new category because

446
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<v Speaker 1>we're dealing with new type of people. Well, if you

447
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<v Speaker 1>look before the chuva, it says that the chuva from

448
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<v Speaker 1>this point on are just they're not laklasa. And yet

449
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<v Speaker 1>everyone has relied on this in practice. Now Rabbei Mazou's

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<v Speaker 1>returned to this in twenty seventeen in his weekly Tora

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<v Speaker 1>sheet totarah I don't know what you call nicolem sheets

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<v Speaker 1>in Israel, and he says, as follows, this is what suckus.

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<v Speaker 1>In twenty seventeen, he says, he goes through the sources again,

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<v Speaker 1>and then he says that it shouldn't be a problem

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<v Speaker 1>today because you just use some makob mahon it uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you just put it in the washing machine. It shouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>be a problem. But then he says, but we don't

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<v Speaker 1>make we don't abolish the gazere of the Khaman. We

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<v Speaker 1>don't have the authority. But then he says, they told

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<v Speaker 1>me that by Sheinberg did permit it. Sheinberg was a great,

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<v Speaker 1>great uh tourist age from America. He studied His name

462
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<v Speaker 1>was George. Incidentally, he was so I'm told he studied

463
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<v Speaker 1>with roseolvechikselvechik had Yeshiva. She was hero Raim Alvi in

464
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<v Speaker 1>Boston for a few years. I met someone he passed away.

465
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<v Speaker 1>He taught economics that he wasn't religious. When I met,

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<v Speaker 1>I shouldn't say I wasn't religious. He wasn't yes Orthodox

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<v Speaker 1>at He taught economics at George Mason University. He was

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<v Speaker 1>in the Row Cole Well in the forties and right

469
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<v Speaker 1>when the rev started being at Yu and he told

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<v Speaker 1>this story which I don't think I wrote about it,

471
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<v Speaker 1>but it's I don't think it's been picked up. It's

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<v Speaker 1>and I believe him. This isn't some hagiography. He says

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<v Speaker 1>that they were sleeping in like one of the shoals.

474
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<v Speaker 1>They gave him place to sleep. The Rob woke them

475
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<v Speaker 1>up at like I don't know, two in the morning

476
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<v Speaker 1>or something and said to them I have the answer

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<v Speaker 1>to the kasha. And he actually made them get up

478
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<v Speaker 1>to tell them what the answer to the question that

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<v Speaker 1>he had was. But he says were by Sinberg permitted

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<v Speaker 1>doing the washing call him all eight because he says

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<v Speaker 1>the whole gazere the Jaja mean was al was when

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't have a washing machine and uh, people would

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<v Speaker 1>have to work hard. And then but Ramazous says, nevertheless,

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<v Speaker 1>since the tradition is not to wash it, I don't

485
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<v Speaker 1>ef charlottete teerba, even though before he says it should

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<v Speaker 1>he he doesn't want to permit it. And then he says,

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<v Speaker 1>and then he repeats what he said before that only

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<v Speaker 1>if you're already doing let's say you're washing underwear, then

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<v Speaker 1>you throw things in or if you're washing kids stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>but not the Dafka take let's say your pants or

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<v Speaker 1>your shirt, if you have other stuff, I guess and

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<v Speaker 1>any But he says here I have not found anyone

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<v Speaker 1>who has permitted it. Explicitly. He's not talking about of

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<v Speaker 1>s Sheinberg. I think he means in writing, Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because he says but except for of Schinberg who said it,

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<v Speaker 1>but no one Bob Peb but nothing in print. So

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<v Speaker 1>I wrote to him, there's a safer that was put

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<v Speaker 1>out by a Rabbi Stoleman, Ave Odd Stoleman. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what he's doing now. He's a TOML. Harochelm and

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<v Speaker 1>also an academic scholar. For a while he you had

501
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<v Speaker 1>rebbi Kelman, as I said, he gets all the great people.

502
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<v Speaker 1>He had Joel Finckelman speaking. I believe Rebby Stoleman had

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<v Speaker 1>Joel Finkerlman's job a couple of years ago at the library.

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<v Speaker 1>And he published a volume, a little volume of showut

505
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<v Speaker 1>and shoe vote called Pelayoids, And in there he makes

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<v Speaker 1>the case that uh, exactly this, that Rabbi Mazous didn't

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<v Speaker 1>want to do hala jams, that today's day and age,

508
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<v Speaker 1>there's no there's no issue. So I wrote to him this,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know today what the rabbis tell you. I

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<v Speaker 1>can't say as follows. I showed it to refersual chacter

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<v Speaker 1>the chuva, and re Schachtra said, as follows, this is

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<v Speaker 1>like what a I work for word. It makes perfect sense.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, so then do you can I say that

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<v Speaker 1>you you agree? Am I? So you motterate? And re

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<v Speaker 1>Schachter said that I have to think about another's He

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't wouldn't motter it. He said, it makes perfect sense,

517
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<v Speaker 1>but he wouldn't. Uh for a Schachter, it's all I couldn't.

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<v Speaker 1>I asked him, I wanted to know, so do you permit?

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<v Speaker 1>And he says, no, we have to think about it

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<v Speaker 1>some more. So then I had my friend in Lakewood

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<v Speaker 1>show it to of a body, because this is the

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<v Speaker 1>same sort of thing that of a body. I was

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<v Speaker 1>certain of a body would say one hundred percent, because this,

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<v Speaker 1>if you know the way of a body works, this

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<v Speaker 1>is uh, the exact sort of thing that he would say.

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<v Speaker 1>He's always coming up with ideas because it's a different circumstance.

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<v Speaker 1>But he said no, he said he doesn't accept it,

528
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<v Speaker 1>and I'm not sure why, but so you can ask

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<v Speaker 1>your local We'll ask her local rabbi and that's Simon

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<v Speaker 1>kuff Me Dowitt. Let us now move on to uh hey,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm gonna we returned to this individual. Let me

532
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<v Speaker 1>get the screen up here again. I lost my screen here,

533
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<v Speaker 1>So let's we'll say goodbye to Rachel margoliout. There must

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<v Speaker 1>be people listening to us or for listening later on

535
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<v Speaker 1>YouTube who who knew her, because she would have lived

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<v Speaker 1>on the Upper West Side. In fact, let me hold

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<v Speaker 1>on a second. To me, I'll tell you exactly what

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<v Speaker 1>years her husband taught at the seminary. I think we

539
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<v Speaker 1>might even have people who, uh well, I know we

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<v Speaker 1>do who listen. I don't know if I'm live with

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<v Speaker 1>us now who who went to the seminary, because someone

542
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<v Speaker 1>just emailed me last week that he was in a

543
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<v Speaker 1>seminary in the seventies. So it said from nineteen fifty

544
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<v Speaker 1>eight until his death he taught at the seminary to

545
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<v Speaker 1>sixty eight. So for ten years at least they were

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<v Speaker 1>living on I assume on the Upper west Side, because

547
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<v Speaker 1>all those seminary people lived on the Upper west Side.

548
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<v Speaker 1>The seminary in the fifties and the sixties had such

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<v Speaker 1>great scholars. It's unbelievable the sort of people they had.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's Mordecha. Margolia wasn't even the top of the line.

551
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<v Speaker 1>He's like, second, you have Lieberman, and you have Ginsburg.

552
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<v Speaker 1>Other people they had their Halkin and Spiegel I think

553
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<v Speaker 1>taught there. And I mean people like Dimatrovsky Abramson, who

554
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<v Speaker 1>were giants at the seminary. They were like the second

555
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<v Speaker 1>level people. Even Alivny Hellivny, he was also second level

556
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<v Speaker 1>during those years. So I don't think you ever had

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<v Speaker 1>such a concentration of great scholars in one institution, and

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<v Speaker 1>you had at the Seminary. Let's say in the fifties,

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<v Speaker 1>let's see what was Ginsburg dies. I let's see who No,

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<v Speaker 1>a second, you had both Lieberman and Ginsburg dies in

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<v Speaker 1>fifty three. But even after Ginsburg dies, they still had

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<v Speaker 1>amazing people. Okay, let's we're gonna return to a person

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<v Speaker 1>that we saw earlier on Rabbi the great yem and

564
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<v Speaker 1>I post sake and uh I asked him a question

565
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<v Speaker 1>that he uh, well, yeah, First, at the end of

566
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<v Speaker 1>the tewah, I'll mention this at the end because I

567
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<v Speaker 1>asked them the same thing I asked other people. When

568
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<v Speaker 1>I was working at Brandis before Smira, people would call

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<v Speaker 1>me rabbi. Do I need to protest? And he said no.

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<v Speaker 1>He said that if if you feel that it has

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<v Speaker 1>a spiritual value, uh, you can you do it. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's why when I see people, you often find

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<v Speaker 1>people who are called rabbi and you know, for a

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<v Speaker 1>factor he signed, for a fact that they never got

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<v Speaker 1>some but uh, they're doing a good job.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>So Uh, I guess it's fine. And he says it follows.

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<v Speaker 1>And the title rabbi also has been used in opposition

579
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<v Speaker 1>to the cat rights. So therefore, if you're called rabbi,

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<v Speaker 1>it's uh. In English referred to it as Rabbi Knight.

581
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<v Speaker 1>But in Hebrew, I guess you know, you refer to

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<v Speaker 1>the the the the non carw rts, you can call

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<v Speaker 1>them rabbi. So that's what he said, But that the

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<v Speaker 1>main question I asked him was as follows. And that

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<v Speaker 1>has to do with the issue of we're gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>having it soon on pesa. Let me pull up the

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<v Speaker 1>screen again for you. I'm gonna show you Gamora and

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<v Speaker 1>really see in Brahos you see the Oh hmhm, hold

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<v Speaker 1>on a second, I see an I see. I have

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<v Speaker 1>to find the gamura here. I don't know what happened

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<v Speaker 1>to my gamura in one ten b okay, I got it. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>let me share my screen with you. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if you've heard of zu goat zugoat is. There was

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<v Speaker 1>this idea that if you did thing is in pairs

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<v Speaker 1>like two four, that it would be problematic because the

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<v Speaker 1>demons come out and uh, they could cause you problems

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<v Speaker 1>if you do things in pairs. So uh, the gamura

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<v Speaker 1>speaks about this, and then in it actually says if

599
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<v Speaker 1>you're not particular about it, there the demons don't come

600
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<v Speaker 1>after you if you don't care about it, and Ericistral

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<v Speaker 1>they were in particular. But then the kamara raises the

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<v Speaker 1>following question. It says, where is it tier? I believe

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<v Speaker 1>it's hmm, I can't. I thought it was here on

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<v Speaker 1>one to eleven A, but maybe it's before. Basically they

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<v Speaker 1>asked yourself about they're wondering, hold on, I gotta find

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<v Speaker 1>them here. Ah, here there is I think, Yeah, they

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<v Speaker 1>want to know about we have the four cups? So

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<v Speaker 1>how how could we have the four cups? Where is it?

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<v Speaker 1>Anyone know what doffit's on here? I thought it was

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<v Speaker 1>one twelve, but I could one twelve. Okay, one twelve,

611
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<v Speaker 1>but I really have to check. Yeah, ralshi muri mom?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it one twelve? I mean I'm wrong, but no,

613
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<v Speaker 1>that's that's a different that's Chevalri and everything. But uh, okay, well,

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<v Speaker 1>i'll say it outside. Uh I thought it was I

615
00:36:52.840 --> 00:36:55.840
<v Speaker 1>thought it was. I closed it by mistake. I want

616
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<v Speaker 1>to show you though. Anyone haven't here, anyone knows whether

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<v Speaker 1>where the gamar is, Just call out, we'll find it quickly.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it was cook gett Alif. I thought it

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<v Speaker 1>was cookid al If. I'm a it's a a bet,

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<v Speaker 1>I think so. Okay, yeah, we got our mudic scholars here.

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<v Speaker 2>It was this past job.

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<v Speaker 1>It's cook on the base coff test salmon base. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>there you go, Cooff test Samon base. Okay. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to show you this h gomara because you'll think about

625
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<v Speaker 1>it then. Uh. Tonight a short while when we're at

626
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<v Speaker 1>the sator coof tests on the base, and I just

627
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<v Speaker 1>want to have the English so.

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<v Speaker 2>Here.

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<v Speaker 1>It is very good. Okay. So the gamara says that

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<v Speaker 1>you shouldn't do things in pairs. And then they said,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, we call it lelmurim, so this is a

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<v Speaker 1>night pass. Overnight is guarded from demons, and therefore you

633
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<v Speaker 1>don't need to worry about pairs. And then they give

634
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<v Speaker 1>other reasons, because what about the cups we have? Like

635
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<v Speaker 1>here it says, it's like, how could the stages establish

636
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<v Speaker 1>a matter I through which one will come exposed on danger?

637
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<v Speaker 1>Because it says you shouldn't eat pairs. How can you

638
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<v Speaker 1>have uh, you know, four coasts four cups of wine?

639
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<v Speaker 1>And then they give reasons, uh, different reasons that the

640
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<v Speaker 1>cups are separated, they don't combine them, or it's a lemurim.

641
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<v Speaker 1>So you have this idea of zugoat rumbum. Well, even

642
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<v Speaker 1>before we get to revolve a rumbaum, the rumbam himself

643
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<v Speaker 1>doesn't mention anything about zugoat. And this isn't the only

644
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<v Speaker 1>place who has mentioned. It's mentioned in Brooklos also where

645
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<v Speaker 1>it says that you shouldn't say, uh, grace after meals

646
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<v Speaker 1>of what they call the cup of punishment, and they say,

647
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<v Speaker 1>what's that? That's the second cup and Rashi explains there

648
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<v Speaker 1>that zugoat caused harm with demons. Now, if you if

649
00:39:06.239 --> 00:39:08.960
<v Speaker 1>you look in the Rambam, the Rambam mentions nothing about Zugoat,

650
00:39:09.800 --> 00:39:12.760
<v Speaker 1>and everyone has always assumed that that's because the ram

651
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<v Speaker 1>Bam doesn't include things dealing with superstitions. There's nothing in demons.

652
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<v Speaker 1>The Rambum cuts these all out, and not to mention

653
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<v Speaker 1>the fact that the Tomorrow already says that in Ericistral

654
00:39:25.159 --> 00:39:31.760
<v Speaker 1>they were not careful about this. However, we have a

655
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<v Speaker 1>new book. This book, it's not so new, it's from

656
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<v Speaker 1>Revolver I'm being a Ramam, published in nineteen eighty nine,

657
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<v Speaker 1>is called The Safer Hammas Speak Well of Deshem, and

658
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<v Speaker 1>it's we have a two versions, two two volumes of it.

659
00:39:48.519 --> 00:39:52.360
<v Speaker 1>The first volume was published i think in the forties already.

660
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<v Speaker 1>It's called The High Waste Perfection. It's published in English,

661
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<v Speaker 1>and it was translated by a rabbi in Baltimore called

662
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<v Speaker 1>Samuel Rosenblat. Samuel Rosenblat was the son of the great

663
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<v Speaker 1>Kazan Yesla Rosenblatt, but he was the rabbi in Beth

664
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<v Speaker 1>Tefila in Baltimore. Also JOHNS. Hopkins, PhD. And he translated

665
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<v Speaker 1>and in this next section, which now has appeared in

666
00:40:12.639 --> 00:40:15.519
<v Speaker 1>English as well, there's a rabbi in Miami who translated it.

667
00:40:15.599 --> 00:40:17.880
<v Speaker 1>But this is from the Hebrew of the Arabic. And

668
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<v Speaker 1>you see something amazing in here which was completely new,

669
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<v Speaker 1>in which a Rambam records in oral teaching his father.

670
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<v Speaker 1>These books, to say from Moss Speaker, are important because

671
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<v Speaker 1>we hear stuff about the Rumbam that we did not

672
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<v Speaker 1>know about. And according to revav be A Rambam, the Rumbum,

673
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<v Speaker 1>it's not that the he didn't regard zugoat as superstition.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why it's On the contrary, he says that the

675
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<v Speaker 1>prohibition of zugoat is directed against duelnesst ceremonies. In other words,

676
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<v Speaker 1>it's not that we abstain from zugoat, as Rashi explains,

677
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<v Speaker 1>because we're worried about demons. No, on the contrary, the

678
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<v Speaker 1>sages were concerned about these dualist type ceremonies, which I

679
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<v Speaker 1>guess means that if you believe like Zoroastrians, you have

680
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<v Speaker 1>the god of light the god of darkness, so you'll

681
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<v Speaker 1>do things twice wants to satisfy this god, wance to

682
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<v Speaker 1>satisfy the other god. So the way that he Revavram

683
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<v Speaker 1>says that the Rambam understood all these things about zu

684
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<v Speaker 1>Goat as having to be directed against against these dualist

685
00:41:24.199 --> 00:41:27.320
<v Speaker 1>type of ceremonies. Now, why isn't the Ramam included. I

686
00:41:27.320 --> 00:41:29.199
<v Speaker 1>guess because there's no more dualism. They don't need to

687
00:41:29.239 --> 00:41:32.360
<v Speaker 1>keep people far away from them. But that's what the

688
00:41:32.440 --> 00:41:37.119
<v Speaker 1>Rombam says. The me Erie has interesting perspective. He thinks

689
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<v Speaker 1>that people were so attached to this that the sages,

690
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<v Speaker 1>since it was connected to let's say, Idolatrist type things,

691
00:41:44.719 --> 00:41:48.079
<v Speaker 1>the sages moved it away, kept the practice, but moved

692
00:41:48.079 --> 00:41:52.599
<v Speaker 1>it into like a Kosher direction. Now I asked, the

693
00:41:52.639 --> 00:41:55.440
<v Speaker 1>problem was that the translation is difficult and it's not

694
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<v Speaker 1>really clear what he's saying. Subsequently, though people have explained it,

695
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<v Speaker 1>they're the way I just told you. So Astra by Masus,

696
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<v Speaker 1>I mean Astra by Ratsabi about this, and he says

697
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<v Speaker 1>that it does appear to be a problem in the

698
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<v Speaker 1>Arabic But and he doesn't think that the fact that

699
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<v Speaker 1>they didn't care about Zugat in the land of Israel,

700
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<v Speaker 1>that would be enough of reason to say that Rambam

701
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<v Speaker 1>doesn't It doesn't follow it. But that's the significant point

702
00:42:18.480 --> 00:42:20.599
<v Speaker 1>is we can leave out rhter rats Albi is that

703
00:42:20.760 --> 00:42:23.960
<v Speaker 1>revo a Rambam tells us that the Rambam's position on

704
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<v Speaker 1>zugat it was not so he didn't think it was superstition.

705
00:42:26.400 --> 00:42:30.880
<v Speaker 1>He thought it was the sages legislating to keep people

706
00:42:30.960 --> 00:42:35.679
<v Speaker 1>away from practices. This doubling that was done for idolatrous reasons.

707
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<v Speaker 1>So that's that's a very significant addition by the revolver Rambam.

708
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<v Speaker 1>The rest of the letter is a second here. I

709
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<v Speaker 1>asked him about this book, Samos Kodeshol. It says on

710
00:42:56.559 --> 00:43:01.480
<v Speaker 1>the title page the Rambam wrote it. And this is

711
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<v Speaker 1>with River Sabi's commentary all the throughout the Torah, which

712
00:43:05.119 --> 00:43:08.440
<v Speaker 1>names are like Eloheim, Is it holy or is it not?

713
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<v Speaker 1>I have to say that today the scholars do not

714
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<v Speaker 1>believe that this was written by the Rombam, although I'm

715
00:43:16.440 --> 00:43:20.119
<v Speaker 1>not one to pass judgment. Leave it to the great scholars.

716
00:43:20.159 --> 00:43:23.400
<v Speaker 1>But what I wanted to send him was material relating

717
00:43:23.440 --> 00:43:25.519
<v Speaker 1>to this. But I have to say now, I have

718
00:43:25.559 --> 00:43:27.519
<v Speaker 1>a whole section of my library which is all my

719
00:43:27.599 --> 00:43:30.599
<v Speaker 1>monodien stuff, and I keep it there because it's quasi

720
00:43:30.599 --> 00:43:32.119
<v Speaker 1>my mon of the end. But we assume it's not.

721
00:43:33.000 --> 00:43:34.920
<v Speaker 1>It's not by the Ruhmbam. So that's the shame most

722
00:43:34.960 --> 00:43:39.119
<v Speaker 1>kadis vahl. That is the end of kuff memhy. The

723
00:43:39.199 --> 00:43:41.119
<v Speaker 1>next tchuva which we won't do. But I just want

724
00:43:41.159 --> 00:43:44.480
<v Speaker 1>to tell you a story. Is kufmanvov Age three sixteen.

725
00:43:45.119 --> 00:43:48.760
<v Speaker 1>It's written to me by a rabbi, Yitzak Kirshkowitz. So

726
00:43:48.800 --> 00:43:52.320
<v Speaker 1>who is yak Kerskowitz? I actually met him? How did

727
00:43:52.360 --> 00:43:53.719
<v Speaker 1>I meet him? Well, first, let me tell you where

728
00:43:53.719 --> 00:43:56.920
<v Speaker 1>he comes from. He is the son of this person.

729
00:43:58.360 --> 00:44:02.599
<v Speaker 1>There was a great, great rabbi named Frian Ficial Hirschkammitz.

730
00:44:02.679 --> 00:44:06.599
<v Speaker 1>He was a Kousenberger hussed. He died in twenty seventeen.

731
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<v Speaker 1>Here's his picture. He was a he didn't write, although

732
00:44:12.039 --> 00:44:14.559
<v Speaker 1>he writes many approbations, but he's He was a great

733
00:44:14.559 --> 00:44:17.679
<v Speaker 1>tom rochem and a great He was a leading post

734
00:44:17.679 --> 00:44:23.119
<v Speaker 1>Sake fran Heschel, official Hirschkimitz in the and for the Kousenbergers.

735
00:44:23.159 --> 00:44:25.000
<v Speaker 1>He was like there, leading post Sak. How did I

736
00:44:25.039 --> 00:44:27.119
<v Speaker 1>meet him? So this is a good story, it's worth

737
00:44:27.119 --> 00:44:29.480
<v Speaker 1>telling you. I just so. When I lived in the

738
00:44:29.519 --> 00:44:31.280
<v Speaker 1>Upper West Side, I used to go to the seminary

739
00:44:31.360 --> 00:44:33.079
<v Speaker 1>a lot. That's where all the great libraries were I

740
00:44:33.119 --> 00:44:34.800
<v Speaker 1>have no idea what's going to be. They just read

741
00:44:34.920 --> 00:44:36.840
<v Speaker 1>the seminary library. You can go online, you can see

742
00:44:36.880 --> 00:44:40.360
<v Speaker 1>a video. But I'm very skeptical about the future of

743
00:44:40.400 --> 00:44:43.840
<v Speaker 1>libraries because now that I have votes Sarrahm on hebrewbooks

744
00:44:43.840 --> 00:44:47.199
<v Speaker 1>dot Org, you can access you can access eighty thousand

745
00:44:47.239 --> 00:44:50.480
<v Speaker 1>books by your fingertips. So I assume you'll need to

746
00:44:50.559 --> 00:44:53.920
<v Speaker 1>rare book rooms and things like that. But is there

747
00:44:53.960 --> 00:44:57.079
<v Speaker 1>any future for libraries. I don't know what's said because

748
00:44:57.119 --> 00:45:01.760
<v Speaker 1>I spent I spent many great times there. But one

749
00:45:01.760 --> 00:45:03.079
<v Speaker 1>of the times I was there, I was in the

750
00:45:03.159 --> 00:45:05.320
<v Speaker 1>rare book room because I like to look at manuscripts

751
00:45:05.360 --> 00:45:09.119
<v Speaker 1>and uncover things. I like to spend my time in archives.

752
00:45:09.159 --> 00:45:11.440
<v Speaker 1>So I realized that for the average person that's not

753
00:45:11.440 --> 00:45:13.760
<v Speaker 1>exactly something fun to do, but that's what I like

754
00:45:13.840 --> 00:45:15.519
<v Speaker 1>to do. And I go all over the world to

755
00:45:15.559 --> 00:45:17.400
<v Speaker 1>go to the different archives and then see the sites.

756
00:45:17.440 --> 00:45:19.920
<v Speaker 1>But I love the archives. So I'm there and then

757
00:45:19.960 --> 00:45:22.639
<v Speaker 1>you have a rabbi there with a long white beard,

758
00:45:22.719 --> 00:45:25.519
<v Speaker 1>with two other people with them, and Rabbi Jerry Schwartzbar

759
00:45:25.639 --> 00:45:29.000
<v Speaker 1>who's the director of the rare book Room. He comes

760
00:45:29.000 --> 00:45:31.039
<v Speaker 1>over to me and says, do you know who that is?

761
00:45:31.800 --> 00:45:35.320
<v Speaker 1>And no, he goes, that's right by Frian Bershkowitz. And

762
00:45:35.760 --> 00:45:38.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, and I knew the name, of course, great

763
00:45:38.039 --> 00:45:40.760
<v Speaker 1>great post Sake. And it reminded me of a story

764
00:45:41.079 --> 00:45:43.559
<v Speaker 1>that Robber Keefa has told many times and even wrote

765
00:45:43.559 --> 00:45:47.480
<v Speaker 1>it up in his autobiography, which is called from Washington

766
00:45:47.559 --> 00:45:53.199
<v Speaker 1>to Washington something like that, meaning from I guess where

767
00:45:53.199 --> 00:45:57.320
<v Speaker 1>he grew up to. Well, I don't even know what

768
00:45:57.360 --> 00:46:02.719
<v Speaker 1>the israel I guess I forgot. I forgot the title

769
00:46:02.719 --> 00:46:04.159
<v Speaker 1>of the books. I don't know what it refers to,

770
00:46:04.519 --> 00:46:07.679
<v Speaker 1>but something like from Washington, Washington Street to Washington, stuff

771
00:46:07.679 --> 00:46:10.599
<v Speaker 1>like that. He grew up in the Bronx on Washington

772
00:46:11.199 --> 00:46:16.400
<v Speaker 1>Street and he moved to Israel. There's Washington, okay. He

773
00:46:16.480 --> 00:46:19.199
<v Speaker 1>tells the story there. He grew up in the Bronx.

774
00:46:19.239 --> 00:46:20.679
<v Speaker 1>And one of the big rabbis in the Bronx is

775
00:46:20.760 --> 00:46:25.119
<v Speaker 1>Romosha Bick Ramosha Bick, the Big Family. They have his

776
00:46:25.280 --> 00:46:28.400
<v Speaker 1>nephews at Gush is one of the rebbies at Gush

777
00:46:28.480 --> 00:46:31.840
<v Speaker 1>from the book Big Family, and he's a student of

778
00:46:31.880 --> 00:46:35.719
<v Speaker 1>remotion Salva Chic and American and an important rabbiting family.

779
00:46:35.760 --> 00:46:41.400
<v Speaker 1>He became the post sake of Borough Park Ashs and

780
00:46:41.480 --> 00:46:47.119
<v Speaker 1>that that's Ramosha Bick, his cousin Avram bik Shahuli, the

781
00:46:47.119 --> 00:46:49.920
<v Speaker 1>one who edited vergaka Emden stuff is it was a

782
00:46:50.000 --> 00:46:53.119
<v Speaker 1>complete communist. I wrote about this from jew but an

783
00:46:53.199 --> 00:46:55.920
<v Speaker 1>actual communist. That's a long story. I can tell you

784
00:46:55.960 --> 00:46:58.920
<v Speaker 1>another time about him. But Rakefa tells the story. He's

785
00:46:58.960 --> 00:47:02.559
<v Speaker 1>in the seminary and he sees Ramosha Bick and he

786
00:47:02.599 --> 00:47:06.320
<v Speaker 1>says to Ramosha Bick, coin, but basic farrows, you know

787
00:47:06.559 --> 00:47:09.000
<v Speaker 1>a coin and a cemetery here, and you have to

788
00:47:09.000 --> 00:47:11.039
<v Speaker 1>know also the seminary. They used to call it in

789
00:47:11.079 --> 00:47:14.320
<v Speaker 1>a derogatory fashion, the cemetery. That was one of the

790
00:47:14.639 --> 00:47:16.360
<v Speaker 1>ways they would call it. But by saying I don't

791
00:47:16.400 --> 00:47:17.760
<v Speaker 1>know if he had that in mind when he said it,

792
00:47:17.920 --> 00:47:20.719
<v Speaker 1>or just that what's someone like you Ormosha Bick doing

793
00:47:20.719 --> 00:47:24.039
<v Speaker 1>in a place like the seminary. The truth is that

794
00:47:24.480 --> 00:47:26.719
<v Speaker 1>anytime you went to the seminary you saw a sidem

795
00:47:26.800 --> 00:47:29.599
<v Speaker 1>with peis and long black coats. They will go there

796
00:47:29.639 --> 00:47:31.440
<v Speaker 1>because it was an open library. I'm like, why you

797
00:47:32.280 --> 00:47:34.199
<v Speaker 1>it's a closed stack. You can't just get in. You

798
00:47:34.280 --> 00:47:36.599
<v Speaker 1>need to go get a card and all that seminary

799
00:47:36.599 --> 00:47:40.079
<v Speaker 1>anyone could go in. In fact, it became such a problem.

800
00:47:40.239 --> 00:47:43.519
<v Speaker 1>I assume it's so called from Jews trying to liberate

801
00:47:43.559 --> 00:47:46.559
<v Speaker 1>the books. They had to put in in the late nineties,

802
00:47:46.599 --> 00:47:50.039
<v Speaker 1>I think it was early two thousands, a like these

803
00:47:50.039 --> 00:47:54.320
<v Speaker 1>metal detectors, because all these books started disappearing, and so

804
00:47:54.360 --> 00:47:57.719
<v Speaker 1>they had to put in something to prevent it. So

805
00:47:57.800 --> 00:48:02.199
<v Speaker 1>you always would have me coming. But Ramosha Bick's reply was,

806
00:48:03.239 --> 00:48:06.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, if the seminary has importance for him, I

807
00:48:06.039 --> 00:48:09.360
<v Speaker 1>shouldn't see it. So where if I'm Hirshkovitz was looking

808
00:48:09.639 --> 00:48:13.519
<v Speaker 1>at manuscripts in the manuscript room, you know the money.

809
00:48:13.760 --> 00:48:16.519
<v Speaker 1>Ivan Bowski gave a lot of money to the seminary,

810
00:48:16.840 --> 00:48:19.280
<v Speaker 1>and after his scandal, they took his name off the front.

811
00:48:19.280 --> 00:48:21.079
<v Speaker 1>They asked him could they take his name off the front,

812
00:48:21.360 --> 00:48:23.480
<v Speaker 1>but they never took his name off the inside. If

813
00:48:23.480 --> 00:48:25.320
<v Speaker 1>you go on up to the fifth floor, you had

814
00:48:25.320 --> 00:48:29.679
<v Speaker 1>ivan Bowski's name right there, which I guess is okay.

815
00:48:30.519 --> 00:48:36.239
<v Speaker 1>He gave the money, and so events met this Rabbi Hirshkavitz,

816
00:48:36.280 --> 00:48:38.400
<v Speaker 1>who is an expert in a few different areas. He's

817
00:48:38.400 --> 00:48:42.599
<v Speaker 1>published svarim publish stuff from the maral or Shan Nottinsen

818
00:48:43.559 --> 00:48:46.239
<v Speaker 1>and I it's just a question, I asked him, and

819
00:48:46.280 --> 00:48:48.199
<v Speaker 1>he told me the answer to it. We don't need

820
00:48:48.239 --> 00:48:51.159
<v Speaker 1>to go into that. It's just really talmudic. And then

821
00:48:51.199 --> 00:48:53.280
<v Speaker 1>the next two to three two vote we don't need

822
00:48:53.320 --> 00:48:56.719
<v Speaker 1>to look at either. They're one from Bjos V. Lieberman,

823
00:48:56.760 --> 00:48:58.519
<v Speaker 1>who's a big posting in an Ay Brock, and two

824
00:48:58.599 --> 00:49:01.760
<v Speaker 1>from Rashul Ashkenazu. We go out the great bibliographer who

825
00:49:01.840 --> 00:49:04.960
<v Speaker 1>they I just received my three volumes of his collected letters.

826
00:49:05.199 --> 00:49:08.360
<v Speaker 1>If you love Jewish books and bibliography, it'll keep you

827
00:49:08.440 --> 00:49:11.039
<v Speaker 1>up at night. Everyone else that'll put to sleep. I mean,

828
00:49:12.039 --> 00:49:13.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't think most people are interested in whether it's

829
00:49:13.920 --> 00:49:17.599
<v Speaker 1>published in fifteen twenty or fifteen forty and these sorts

830
00:49:17.599 --> 00:49:21.039
<v Speaker 1>of things. But it does have nuggets of brilliance, not brilliant,

831
00:49:21.119 --> 00:49:24.599
<v Speaker 1>nuggets of amazing finds in there, things that he knew

832
00:49:24.599 --> 00:49:27.719
<v Speaker 1>that no one else did before computers. And these letters

833
00:49:27.800 --> 00:49:31.079
<v Speaker 1>all deal with Nittel, terrorist Udy and Christmas Eve, and

834
00:49:31.159 --> 00:49:32.880
<v Speaker 1>we had the whole class on that, so I don't

835
00:49:32.880 --> 00:49:35.400
<v Speaker 1>need to repeat it. I'll just add about Nittl because

836
00:49:35.440 --> 00:49:38.239
<v Speaker 1>afterwards I found out so someone asked me about Erchimbacher,

837
00:49:38.320 --> 00:49:40.960
<v Speaker 1>where by Elie Fisher and Israel actually discovered a manuscript

838
00:49:41.280 --> 00:49:44.440
<v Speaker 1>which he has published online sections of it in which

839
00:49:44.559 --> 00:49:48.599
<v Speaker 1>the Kabosialir mentions Nittel. I dealt with that in my classes,

840
00:49:48.639 --> 00:49:50.800
<v Speaker 1>and he refers to it as leel nittol. So I

841
00:49:50.880 --> 00:49:54.320
<v Speaker 1>said that the idea of nittel can only comes in later.

842
00:49:54.440 --> 00:49:56.320
<v Speaker 1>We see already that even though they were showning just

843
00:49:56.360 --> 00:50:00.920
<v Speaker 1>call it nittel, already the Kravosyalir in the sixteen hundreds

844
00:50:00.960 --> 00:50:03.920
<v Speaker 1>is also calling it Alel Nittlel. Nittel is nittln. So

845
00:50:03.920 --> 00:50:05.639
<v Speaker 1>we can we don't need to go through these two

846
00:50:05.719 --> 00:50:09.400
<v Speaker 1>vote just stuff I did in my class. Now we

847
00:50:09.519 --> 00:50:11.599
<v Speaker 1>come to page three twenty one. That's what I meant

848
00:50:11.599 --> 00:50:13.559
<v Speaker 1>that we're now only about forty pages from the end.

849
00:50:13.599 --> 00:50:16.360
<v Speaker 1>And this is Simon Kufner in one fifty. And this

850
00:50:16.400 --> 00:50:19.199
<v Speaker 1>is a letter from the lobabachereb, a long letter from

851
00:50:19.199 --> 00:50:21.559
<v Speaker 1>the Labavachvi. So I need to explain a bit about

852
00:50:22.280 --> 00:50:25.400
<v Speaker 1>how is it that Obama Cherebby's writing letters two letters,

853
00:50:25.719 --> 00:50:27.480
<v Speaker 1>one in English and one in Hebrew. It's the only

854
00:50:27.559 --> 00:50:31.079
<v Speaker 1>letter in English I've been seeing recently. You know, the

855
00:50:31.079 --> 00:50:34.320
<v Speaker 1>ol Babacherebi wrote thousands and thousands of letters, and yet

856
00:50:34.360 --> 00:50:36.239
<v Speaker 1>they sell them at auction for a lot of money.

857
00:50:36.840 --> 00:50:38.760
<v Speaker 1>So I think I need to put it in good

858
00:50:39.159 --> 00:50:40.920
<v Speaker 1>folder to keep it because in case I want to

859
00:50:40.960 --> 00:50:44.199
<v Speaker 1>sell it and to well, let me tell you the

860
00:50:44.239 --> 00:50:48.960
<v Speaker 1>story about my visit with the Olbabachereby and what led

861
00:50:48.960 --> 00:50:52.159
<v Speaker 1>to it, and then there and we'll see what he

862
00:50:52.199 --> 00:50:54.840
<v Speaker 1>says in the letter. I grew up in a place

863
00:50:54.880 --> 00:50:58.519
<v Speaker 1>called West Orange, New Jersey, and I live there today.

864
00:50:58.559 --> 00:51:02.400
<v Speaker 1>I moved back there after twenty years being other places,

865
00:51:02.920 --> 00:51:07.960
<v Speaker 1>living in Boston, Brookline, Cambridge, West Hartford, Scranton, New York City,

866
00:51:08.199 --> 00:51:10.840
<v Speaker 1>and I made my way to back to West Orange

867
00:51:10.880 --> 00:51:12.800
<v Speaker 1>about a mile from where I grew up for the

868
00:51:12.840 --> 00:51:18.199
<v Speaker 1>simple reason that it's really the closest community to active

869
00:51:18.199 --> 00:51:20.920
<v Speaker 1>community to Scranton and Livingston is really the same thing

870
00:51:20.920 --> 00:51:24.800
<v Speaker 1>West Orange. But if you want really an active Jewish community,

871
00:51:24.960 --> 00:51:28.719
<v Speaker 1>this is it. But growing up, there was a man

872
00:51:28.840 --> 00:51:32.360
<v Speaker 1>in our town and his name, well he still lives

873
00:51:32.400 --> 00:51:37.960
<v Speaker 1>in the town is here. He is Rabbi Moshaherson, Rabbi

874
00:51:38.000 --> 00:51:42.079
<v Speaker 1>Mosha Hearson. It was originally was a shriach of the

875
00:51:42.159 --> 00:51:46.000
<v Speaker 1>Rebbe became. He's the head of the Rabbinical College in Morristown.

876
00:51:46.079 --> 00:51:48.960
<v Speaker 1>That's the one of the big yeshivas of for RaBaD,

877
00:51:49.599 --> 00:51:52.199
<v Speaker 1>the Asa camp. I went to one summer Gonna stral

878
00:51:52.519 --> 00:51:57.079
<v Speaker 1>and he is the head of all hbad in New Jersey.

879
00:51:57.159 --> 00:51:58.920
<v Speaker 1>Now what does that mean, the head of all Hbbad

880
00:51:58.960 --> 00:52:01.239
<v Speaker 1>in New Jersey. Well, I was looking as I was

881
00:52:01.239 --> 00:52:06.679
<v Speaker 1>looking for pictures of him and exactly his his titles.

882
00:52:06.880 --> 00:52:09.320
<v Speaker 1>I came across something of interest. Well, as I said,

883
00:52:09.320 --> 00:52:12.559
<v Speaker 1>he's the head of it. And I came across the

884
00:52:12.599 --> 00:52:16.960
<v Speaker 1>following that are there two rabbad centers in Monroe? This

885
00:52:17.000 --> 00:52:20.000
<v Speaker 1>is Monroe, New Jersey. And it explains that there's only

886
00:52:20.039 --> 00:52:23.480
<v Speaker 1>one authorized rabbad center. To be an authorized center, the

887
00:52:23.519 --> 00:52:27.559
<v Speaker 1>rabbad headquarters based in Brooklyn must authorize you. Viya's regional director,

888
00:52:28.000 --> 00:52:30.039
<v Speaker 1>the regional director of the state of New Jersey is

889
00:52:30.119 --> 00:52:33.159
<v Speaker 1>right Mosha Herston or Miinal College in Morristown. And it

890
00:52:33.280 --> 00:52:39.440
<v Speaker 1>explains that this Rabbi Zakholukowsky is the official shriach and

891
00:52:39.559 --> 00:52:43.840
<v Speaker 1>the other one the And here you have the the

892
00:52:44.360 --> 00:52:47.880
<v Speaker 1>thing from the based in is not a real shlach.

893
00:52:48.039 --> 00:52:52.519
<v Speaker 1>This Rabbi Spritzer does not or Rabbi Karabach. They don't

894
00:52:52.519 --> 00:52:56.599
<v Speaker 1>operate under the aegis of Abovich World headquarters. So so

895
00:52:56.639 --> 00:52:59.320
<v Speaker 1>that's an important role the Reby herson has. He's in

896
00:52:59.400 --> 00:53:02.760
<v Speaker 1>charge of all the Khabbad in New Jersey, and he

897
00:53:02.800 --> 00:53:04.840
<v Speaker 1>obviously was very close to the Rebbe because you were

898
00:53:04.840 --> 00:53:06.599
<v Speaker 1>in their middal college for all those years that the

899
00:53:06.639 --> 00:53:09.639
<v Speaker 1>Rebby was alive. It's an interesting thing about the official

900
00:53:09.679 --> 00:53:13.360
<v Speaker 1>Rabbad because what does that mean. Khabbad's a name. You

901
00:53:13.400 --> 00:53:15.239
<v Speaker 1>can't copyright it. If I all of a sudden become

902
00:53:15.280 --> 00:53:18.039
<v Speaker 1>interested in rashnierz Alman Avladi and I want to open

903
00:53:18.159 --> 00:53:21.920
<v Speaker 1>up a center and say the Habbad Center. Just like

904
00:53:22.199 --> 00:53:23.840
<v Speaker 1>you can have a Kabala center, you can have a

905
00:53:23.920 --> 00:53:27.559
<v Speaker 1>Hbbad center. I don't think there's any validity to a

906
00:53:27.599 --> 00:53:29.800
<v Speaker 1>civil suit, so they try to sue them on Bastin

907
00:53:29.880 --> 00:53:33.000
<v Speaker 1>and names important. If you look, for example, Bobbo when

908
00:53:33.039 --> 00:53:34.559
<v Speaker 1>they had this split, they had to go to Bastin

909
00:53:34.599 --> 00:53:36.159
<v Speaker 1>and only one could be bubb of the other has

910
00:53:36.199 --> 00:53:37.480
<v Speaker 1>to be I think they called a Bbob of forty

911
00:53:37.480 --> 00:53:40.599
<v Speaker 1>five from forty fifth Street. But you have all these

912
00:53:40.840 --> 00:53:44.519
<v Speaker 1>independent Rabbad people who you know, the Rebbe's not alive.

913
00:53:44.559 --> 00:53:46.239
<v Speaker 1>They can do their own thing. They don't recognize and

914
00:53:46.400 --> 00:53:48.239
<v Speaker 1>I think I understand if they want to have a

915
00:53:48.239 --> 00:53:50.280
<v Speaker 1>different approach us to tell them that they can't be

916
00:53:50.920 --> 00:53:54.519
<v Speaker 1>called hbbad. They are hbbad And but it's not official

917
00:53:54.679 --> 00:53:57.159
<v Speaker 1>And a lot of people don't realize this. For instance,

918
00:53:59.599 --> 00:54:07.000
<v Speaker 1>this it's a hold on here. The big rabbod place

919
00:54:07.079 --> 00:54:11.679
<v Speaker 1>in Ruckers is not. The rabbad house in Rutgers is huge.

920
00:54:11.719 --> 00:54:13.679
<v Speaker 1>I've been there, I've eaten there. They have a lot

921
00:54:13.719 --> 00:54:17.559
<v Speaker 1>of people sleep there, they have the dormitory and they

922
00:54:17.639 --> 00:54:22.000
<v Speaker 1>raise a fortune. People don't realize it's not an official rabbad.

923
00:54:22.719 --> 00:54:25.320
<v Speaker 1>It's one of these rebel rabbads that aren't recognized. But

924
00:54:25.360 --> 00:54:27.679
<v Speaker 1>does that matter to the average person? What does the

925
00:54:27.719 --> 00:54:31.360
<v Speaker 1>average person know the rabbi is a rabbad rabbi. The

926
00:54:31.400 --> 00:54:34.199
<v Speaker 1>fact that he's not officially recognized us of no significance

927
00:54:34.280 --> 00:54:37.320
<v Speaker 1>or relevance at all to the people who are Ruckers

928
00:54:37.440 --> 00:54:39.000
<v Speaker 1>or anyone who gives them money. They don't even know

929
00:54:39.039 --> 00:54:41.519
<v Speaker 1>what that means. It's not officially recognized. If you look

930
00:54:41.519 --> 00:54:45.880
<v Speaker 1>a little deeper, you'll find the answer that this is

931
00:54:45.920 --> 00:54:49.880
<v Speaker 1>what you find on non officially recognized Rabbad. The Rabbad

932
00:54:49.960 --> 00:54:54.559
<v Speaker 1>House in Ruckers is a Messianic institution. You do not

933
00:54:54.679 --> 00:54:58.400
<v Speaker 1>find this in America at regular recognized Rabbad houses. They

934
00:54:58.400 --> 00:55:02.920
<v Speaker 1>don't have all this proper about the Rebbiez Mashiach, but

935
00:55:03.039 --> 00:55:06.599
<v Speaker 1>the Rabbad House of Rutgers does. But I've spoken to

936
00:55:06.639 --> 00:55:09.559
<v Speaker 1>a number of people and they've told me, well, one

937
00:55:09.559 --> 00:55:11.119
<v Speaker 1>of them said he knew all about it, but the

938
00:55:11.159 --> 00:55:14.079
<v Speaker 1>others told me that they had no clue and it

939
00:55:14.159 --> 00:55:16.280
<v Speaker 1>was never brought up. It was irrelevant. So it's not

940
00:55:16.440 --> 00:55:19.239
<v Speaker 1>like the Rabbad House and Rutgers is the Rabbad House

941
00:55:19.239 --> 00:55:21.679
<v Speaker 1>in Florence, Italy for those who've been with me, or Venice,

942
00:55:21.760 --> 00:55:23.480
<v Speaker 1>where they put up a big sign on the door

943
00:55:23.679 --> 00:55:27.000
<v Speaker 1>saying you had the name of Marina Verbin and you

944
00:55:27.039 --> 00:55:29.119
<v Speaker 1>could go four years at Rutgers and you can eat

945
00:55:29.119 --> 00:55:31.800
<v Speaker 1>there every day and not know that it's a center

946
00:55:31.840 --> 00:55:35.960
<v Speaker 1>of false Messianism and that they are not mainstream Rabbad

947
00:55:36.719 --> 00:55:39.960
<v Speaker 1>because they don't put it in your face. But that's

948
00:55:40.639 --> 00:55:43.840
<v Speaker 1>that's of interest. I think to RaBaD people it's of interest.

949
00:55:43.880 --> 00:55:46.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's of any interest to us. But

950
00:55:46.159 --> 00:55:50.320
<v Speaker 1>Rabbi Hearson, let's get back to Rabbi Herson. So growing up,

951
00:55:50.360 --> 00:55:54.199
<v Speaker 1>of course we knew him. He even was a Massader

952
00:55:54.320 --> 00:55:58.079
<v Speaker 1>Kiduchin at my brother's wedding. Well, when I became bar

953
00:55:58.159 --> 00:56:02.199
<v Speaker 1>mitzvuot I, I don't remember the exact circumstances, but I

954
00:56:02.440 --> 00:56:05.280
<v Speaker 1>had RaBaD connections because we used to go to Mishmar

955
00:56:05.400 --> 00:56:08.880
<v Speaker 1>with RaBaD people and we used to have shabatones and

956
00:56:08.880 --> 00:56:11.000
<v Speaker 1>Crown Nights. I doviin with the rebby upstairs in the

957
00:56:11.119 --> 00:56:15.280
<v Speaker 1>special room there, and we had Khbad people. The school

958
00:56:15.280 --> 00:56:17.280
<v Speaker 1>I went to, which is now called the Kushner Academy,

959
00:56:17.360 --> 00:56:20.199
<v Speaker 1>was called the Hebreuth Academy. We had RaBaD students with us,

960
00:56:20.239 --> 00:56:21.760
<v Speaker 1>even though it's a co ed school. They did not

961
00:56:21.840 --> 00:56:24.000
<v Speaker 1>have a school in Morristown like they do today. So

962
00:56:25.039 --> 00:56:28.480
<v Speaker 1>all this children, including Rebbie Herston's children, went to this

963
00:56:28.639 --> 00:56:32.079
<v Speaker 1>modern Orthodox school until they I think we were eighth

964
00:56:32.119 --> 00:56:34.480
<v Speaker 1>grade or maybe sixth grade, and then they moved them

965
00:56:34.480 --> 00:56:36.719
<v Speaker 1>to a Habad place in Crown Night. So the girl

966
00:56:36.719 --> 00:56:39.880
<v Speaker 1>I was Rabbi Zuweebo, very important rabbi in Marstown. His

967
00:56:39.960 --> 00:56:43.079
<v Speaker 1>daughter was in my class. We had eight boys one

968
00:56:43.119 --> 00:56:46.760
<v Speaker 1>girl just her. Couldn't have been an easy experience but

969
00:56:47.079 --> 00:56:49.119
<v Speaker 1>her father was. I think they called them the headmashpia,

970
00:56:49.159 --> 00:56:53.000
<v Speaker 1>as I call it. In Morristown. She was with us

971
00:56:53.000 --> 00:56:56.280
<v Speaker 1>till eighth grade. And all the Rabbad people in Morristown

972
00:56:56.360 --> 00:56:58.360
<v Speaker 1>and in the area there were other Habad people who lived.

973
00:56:58.599 --> 00:57:00.880
<v Speaker 1>They all sent their children for Menary school to the

974
00:57:00.920 --> 00:57:06.159
<v Speaker 1>Hebrew Youth Academy Rabbih Oberlander in Budapest actually discovered this,

975
00:57:06.239 --> 00:57:09.039
<v Speaker 1>which I knew nothing about. He's reading old Rabbad materials

976
00:57:09.360 --> 00:57:11.320
<v Speaker 1>and all, and behold here it is. It says South

977
00:57:11.360 --> 00:57:13.679
<v Speaker 1>argein Jersey. That's where my school was, although by this

978
00:57:13.719 --> 00:57:15.280
<v Speaker 1>time and I moved to West Caldwell, I was in

979
00:57:15.320 --> 00:57:17.960
<v Speaker 1>West Orange. But I had no idea that. In this

980
00:57:18.159 --> 00:57:24.159
<v Speaker 1>Rabbad newsletter not newsletter Little Tory Journal from nineteen seventy nine,

981
00:57:24.519 --> 00:57:26.679
<v Speaker 1>one of the mozotovs of the bar Mitzvahs is me

982
00:57:27.480 --> 00:57:35.639
<v Speaker 1>mal Mark Shapiro. But so before I was bar Mitzvad.

983
00:57:36.320 --> 00:57:39.599
<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure if I asked. I know I didn't ask.

984
00:57:39.639 --> 00:57:41.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure if my father asked, or Rebbie Herson

985
00:57:41.920 --> 00:57:44.280
<v Speaker 1>himself did it. He asked, wuld I like to have

986
00:57:44.400 --> 00:57:48.079
<v Speaker 1>yochidros with the rebbe I understand that Shmimi at Saras

987
00:57:48.159 --> 00:57:50.840
<v Speaker 1>of the nineteen seventy seven the Rebbe had a heart

988
00:57:50.880 --> 00:57:52.760
<v Speaker 1>attack in the middle of Hakafos in front of all

989
00:57:52.840 --> 00:57:55.679
<v Speaker 1>Is Calcidi. And after that it was not RaBaD nikin

990
00:57:55.760 --> 00:57:57.559
<v Speaker 1>to go win, but other people did not go win.

991
00:57:57.599 --> 00:57:59.159
<v Speaker 1>It was very hard to get into see the rebby,

992
00:57:59.239 --> 00:58:01.840
<v Speaker 1>but by Hearson. Of course, he is one of the

993
00:58:01.880 --> 00:58:04.519
<v Speaker 1>leading figures in Khabad. He could make it happen. So

994
00:58:04.679 --> 00:58:07.199
<v Speaker 1>he did make it happen, and we had yahiros with

995
00:58:07.320 --> 00:58:10.840
<v Speaker 1>the Rebbe. The Rebbe gave me a dollar. I don't

996
00:58:10.840 --> 00:58:12.840
<v Speaker 1>know where the dollar is. I didn't take it seriously.

997
00:58:12.840 --> 00:58:16.519
<v Speaker 1>I didn't frame it or anything. When the book came out,

998
00:58:16.639 --> 00:58:19.159
<v Speaker 1>he had all these people, all these two of them

999
00:58:19.199 --> 00:58:22.039
<v Speaker 1>actually who contacted me tell me about the meeting with

1000
00:58:22.079 --> 00:58:24.920
<v Speaker 1>the Rebbey. Like I remember nineteen seventy nine, it's I

1001
00:58:24.960 --> 00:58:27.599
<v Speaker 1>who was there. It's nothing he talked to My father

1002
00:58:27.639 --> 00:58:29.440
<v Speaker 1>really didn't speak to me. That will see the letter.

1003
00:58:30.000 --> 00:58:32.320
<v Speaker 1>But it was a big deal for Rabbad because you

1004
00:58:32.400 --> 00:58:34.599
<v Speaker 1>understand the people, the young Kabbadi were growing up today.

1005
00:58:34.719 --> 00:58:38.760
<v Speaker 1>They just know the videos they so and I guess

1006
00:58:38.760 --> 00:58:40.400
<v Speaker 1>they thought it'd be interesting to speak see what I

1007
00:58:40.559 --> 00:58:43.000
<v Speaker 1>my impressions were of the Rebbe. I was twelve years

1008
00:58:43.000 --> 00:58:45.440
<v Speaker 1>old at the time. So he went to the Rebbi

1009
00:58:45.519 --> 00:58:49.519
<v Speaker 1>and we had yachidras with the Rebbe, which probably lasted,

1010
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<v Speaker 1>you know, three four minutes, and and that was that. However,

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00:58:55.679 --> 00:58:58.880
<v Speaker 1>shortly after that and we're have to do this next class,

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<v Speaker 1>my parents get a long letter from the rebbe in English,

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00:59:03.559 --> 00:59:07.039
<v Speaker 1>not typed but with his handwriting. Actually he added anythings

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00:59:07.039 --> 00:59:09.719
<v Speaker 1>on the side. Not a typical just stay you know,

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00:59:09.760 --> 00:59:12.679
<v Speaker 1>the three four line letters. I got the typical three

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00:59:12.719 --> 00:59:14.760
<v Speaker 1>four line letter, which i'll I'll just show you one

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00:59:14.760 --> 00:59:16.320
<v Speaker 1>thing about it. But we'll deal with the letter to

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00:59:16.360 --> 00:59:19.480
<v Speaker 1>my father next class. In the letter to me, which

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00:59:19.480 --> 00:59:21.760
<v Speaker 1>is not a significant letter, it's a standard letter, he

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00:59:21.920 --> 00:59:28.639
<v Speaker 1>just says that calls me Havrejamen that now that you're

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00:59:28.840 --> 00:59:31.320
<v Speaker 1>thirteen years old, is when you're a bar mitza mitzvos.

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00:59:31.320 --> 00:59:35.280
<v Speaker 1>You should grow to ben rameishes the mission says and others.

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00:59:35.480 --> 00:59:38.119
<v Speaker 1>Then you'll that's when you do gumara. And then he

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00:59:38.239 --> 00:59:43.679
<v Speaker 1>says you should increase your learning bitrusa nigla in the

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00:59:43.719 --> 00:59:47.760
<v Speaker 1>open torah andsidos. And he's telling me this modern nor

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00:59:47.800 --> 00:59:50.719
<v Speaker 1>thask kid, you should also wear rasidus and uh you know,

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00:59:50.800 --> 00:59:55.360
<v Speaker 1>be careful keima Mitzvos, and then he says that God

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00:59:55.400 --> 00:59:59.079
<v Speaker 1>should bring you success Leos. This is what the Rebbe says, Leos,

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<v Speaker 1>Grasid Eurasia Mayam v Lamdan, that you should be look

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<v Speaker 1>the order he puts it in. You should be a

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01:00:05.920 --> 01:00:09.960
<v Speaker 1>husted a fear of God and a tora scholar. Now

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<v Speaker 1>I just googled it this this morning at Hama. This

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<v Speaker 1>is a standard uh formula used by the Rebi. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>I even found it the rayats his predecessor, and you

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01:00:23.079 --> 01:00:25.119
<v Speaker 1>can find this in hundreds of cases. This is what

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<v Speaker 1>they wish, like when they wish bar mits the boys,

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<v Speaker 1>or they wish others that you'll grow up, you'll be

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01:00:29.360 --> 01:00:33.760
<v Speaker 1>a hassideration mind Valamdan. But Hasid goes first, and hassid

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01:00:33.840 --> 01:00:37.159
<v Speaker 1>doesn't mean just a pious, it means a husted h.

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<v Speaker 1>So I find that of interest. I know I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to have we have a number of rabadniking with and

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<v Speaker 1>especially Nacham who's uh no, not nach Schamrio who helps

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01:00:51.320 --> 01:00:55.280
<v Speaker 1>me a lot, and he I'm sure I'll have a

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01:00:55.280 --> 01:01:01.360
<v Speaker 1>lot to say about uh no, no, sorry not that's

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01:01:01.360 --> 01:01:04.239
<v Speaker 1>the full name his first name. He's a double name.

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01:01:04.960 --> 01:01:06.679
<v Speaker 1>I won't give away his last name. If you listen

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01:01:06.679 --> 01:01:09.440
<v Speaker 1>to Raquefete, you've heard his name mentioned numerous times. He's

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01:01:09.480 --> 01:01:11.039
<v Speaker 1>gonna have a lot. I'm sure to tell me about

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01:01:11.039 --> 01:01:13.679
<v Speaker 1>this phrase because he's very wounded. But so the rebeby said,

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01:01:13.639 --> 01:01:16.840
<v Speaker 1>I should be so well. Next week we're going to see, uh,

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01:01:16.920 --> 01:01:18.559
<v Speaker 1>what the rebby had to say to my parents. The

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01:01:18.599 --> 01:01:21.199
<v Speaker 1>fact really my father but addresses it because my father's historian.

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01:01:21.599 --> 01:01:23.880
<v Speaker 1>So it's a it's a very interesting letter what the

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01:01:23.920 --> 01:01:25.519
<v Speaker 1>rebbe has to say. And then we're going to hear

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<v Speaker 1>from rehearsal chacter information that I don't think untill was

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01:01:30.719 --> 01:01:37.039
<v Speaker 1>written down here was ever recorded. And well, as I said,

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01:01:37.039 --> 01:01:40.679
<v Speaker 1>we're only about forty pages from the end, so we're

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01:01:40.719 --> 01:01:43.119
<v Speaker 1>making progress and we're not going to go fifty five.

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<v Speaker 1>So let me take the questions and the comments here.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll meet one more time before Pesach. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if I mentioned it. You can listen. I gave the

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<v Speaker 1>talk last year on kidney, so you can hear that

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<v Speaker 1>if you're interested. During the week Monday night, two weeks

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<v Speaker 1>from tonight, where Asriel says that Beryl AZA's father is

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<v Speaker 1>the shliach there. Yeah, there's there's a few people in Milan.

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<v Speaker 1>The thing about Milan is that their Beryl Aazar, the

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01:02:07.199 --> 01:02:11.639
<v Speaker 1>chief Rabbi of Russia. You have some messy on this

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01:02:11.760 --> 01:02:13.679
<v Speaker 1>types there also, so they have berger made a big

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01:02:13.719 --> 01:02:16.199
<v Speaker 1>deal about how can we trust their wine? But Milan

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01:02:16.320 --> 01:02:20.320
<v Speaker 1>has a real rabbad presence there. Yes, and Beryl Azar's

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01:02:20.760 --> 01:02:23.239
<v Speaker 1>is the brother in law of Ruby Oberlin or a

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01:02:23.239 --> 01:02:26.079
<v Speaker 1>Budapest who if you ever make your way to Budapest.

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<v Speaker 1>He is an unbelievable personality, as is Beryl Lazar. What

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01:02:30.360 --> 01:02:34.440
<v Speaker 1>he's been able to accomplish and achieve there is simply incredible.

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01:02:34.760 --> 01:02:38.760
<v Speaker 1>The Misnagdine always liked to criticize. I remember during the

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<v Speaker 1>Olympics when they had the Olympics there, Rabbi Lazzar was

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01:02:41.679 --> 01:02:44.039
<v Speaker 1>invited by Putin, so I went to the opening ceremony

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01:02:44.119 --> 01:02:46.159
<v Speaker 1>and then he flew back and this was aer of

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01:02:46.159 --> 01:02:49.039
<v Speaker 1>Shabis and he couldn't get back to his house, so

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01:02:49.079 --> 01:02:51.599
<v Speaker 1>he walked like ten miles on Shabis to get you know,

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01:02:51.599 --> 01:02:54.679
<v Speaker 1>surrounded by security, to get home. So everyone was mocking him.

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01:02:54.679 --> 01:02:56.760
<v Speaker 1>This is a rabbi, you know, air of Shabas he

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01:02:56.760 --> 01:02:58.599
<v Speaker 1>should be home and say he's going to the Olympics.

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<v Speaker 1>What kind of idiots these people? If Putin's like the Czar.

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01:03:02.119 --> 01:03:04.519
<v Speaker 1>If Putin tells you, I want you to come to

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01:03:04.559 --> 01:03:06.679
<v Speaker 1>the Olympic Games, of course you go there. He'd even

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01:03:06.719 --> 01:03:10.000
<v Speaker 1>have a head there to fly on Shabists. If the

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01:03:10.000 --> 01:03:12.199
<v Speaker 1>games were on Shabis. There's no question to the head there.

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01:03:12.239 --> 01:03:16.280
<v Speaker 1>Because it's if a Jewish person in Israeli, someone gets

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01:03:16.360 --> 01:03:19.800
<v Speaker 1>arrested for drug dealing, Putin can reach the UH. Putin

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01:03:19.880 --> 01:03:22.760
<v Speaker 1>can call up the Kremlin, and I mean it's not Putin.

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01:03:23.440 --> 01:03:26.119
<v Speaker 1>Razark can call the Kremlin and get put through to Putin.

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01:03:26.320 --> 01:03:29.039
<v Speaker 1>Putin actually sent Lazare to Iran to visit the Jewish

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01:03:29.039 --> 01:03:32.559
<v Speaker 1>community last year. It's real pu Nephish. So the idea,

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01:03:32.840 --> 01:03:36.639
<v Speaker 1>whatever Putin says to Lazar to do, of course Lazarre

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01:03:36.679 --> 01:03:38.800
<v Speaker 1>should do it. You don't tell Putin, I'm not coming

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01:03:38.840 --> 01:03:42.440
<v Speaker 1>to your games. Lazarre and he's done great things in Russia.

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<v Speaker 1>David says, I I didn't continue reading the midrash that

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<v Speaker 1>only one man in a thousand will exell on gamorrow,

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<v Speaker 1>while zero women will zero women in Okay, hold on uh,

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<v Speaker 1>It says well, because the pussic is uh here whether

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<v Speaker 1>they're giving a drusha as follows. Let me pull it

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<v Speaker 1>up on the screen here for you so you see what. David,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you again as always David for this. They're making

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01:04:21.119 --> 01:04:32.920
<v Speaker 1>a drushia on this is Cohells Ecclesiastes Paraxion. So here

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<v Speaker 1>take a look at the puscle here in pussk Twenty eight,

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01:04:39.280 --> 01:04:44.760
<v Speaker 1>it's saying Coelis is saying, not one man among a

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<v Speaker 1>thousand have I found? But a woman among those have

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01:04:47.320 --> 01:04:51.719
<v Speaker 1>I not found? Uh? Now, whatever the context is in

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01:04:51.800 --> 01:04:57.440
<v Speaker 1>Cohales the contrastit is cohls they the mid rush was

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01:04:57.519 --> 01:05:03.239
<v Speaker 1>using it h to speak about learning. But then it

1112
01:05:03.320 --> 01:05:08.519
<v Speaker 1>says but hold on. But right after they quote the

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01:05:08.800 --> 01:05:12.320
<v Speaker 1>Midrash about the Gamara, then this is another interpretation. I

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01:05:12.400 --> 01:05:14.519
<v Speaker 1>found one man of a thousand, it's Avraham, and a

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01:05:14.559 --> 01:05:17.199
<v Speaker 1>woman among those are not found. That's Sarah. But I'm

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01:05:17.239 --> 01:05:20.719
<v Speaker 1>looking at it. I don't see where it says David.

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01:05:21.280 --> 01:05:23.199
<v Speaker 1>I'm just looking at the Midrash here where it says

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<v Speaker 1>that women no women. I mean, that's the implication, of course,

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01:05:28.320 --> 01:05:31.559
<v Speaker 1>but doesn't say it explicitly. It's not referring to that.

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<v Speaker 1>The focus is on the men they're learning. Let's go

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01:05:36.599 --> 01:05:44.000
<v Speaker 1>back to the questions here. Scholars do not take Belle says,

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01:05:44.039 --> 01:05:46.079
<v Speaker 1>do not take most of his books seriously. And he's

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01:05:46.079 --> 01:05:47.960
<v Speaker 1>not the first one to write a book like that. Yes,

1124
01:05:48.000 --> 01:05:50.199
<v Speaker 1>they did not take it seriously. Schmoal says is the

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<v Speaker 1>Rumman's inauthentic Ethical Will, where the Rummo was reputed to

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01:05:53.119 --> 01:05:56.679
<v Speaker 1>have said the Chmelunda's brains were frozen up north. Yeah,

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01:05:56.760 --> 01:05:59.760
<v Speaker 1>that's that's that's it. And uh, he says, because they

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01:05:59.760 --> 01:06:03.679
<v Speaker 1>eat all all terrible food, it's all sorts of bad stuff.

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01:06:04.280 --> 01:06:07.280
<v Speaker 1>David says in Rashaum Karmi's Jewish Philosophy course, he brought

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01:06:07.280 --> 01:06:10.079
<v Speaker 1>in Sphikolitz to deliver a guest lecture on yessla raka

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01:06:10.159 --> 01:06:14.440
<v Speaker 1>for Ah. That's that would be nice not to hear.

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01:06:14.719 --> 01:06:16.280
<v Speaker 1>Of course, in those days the wouldn't have taped it.

1133
01:06:16.280 --> 01:06:20.360
<v Speaker 1>Then they didn't have children. Ah. Someone texting me something

1134
01:06:20.360 --> 01:06:22.960
<v Speaker 1>about the Krazonish and his wife. I will be dealing

1135
01:06:23.000 --> 01:06:26.159
<v Speaker 1>with the person who this person refers to in a

1136
01:06:26.159 --> 01:06:29.400
<v Speaker 1>future post. Barry says him Grata, who is a Tom

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01:06:29.400 --> 01:06:31.280
<v Speaker 1>of the Hasnich, talks about the difficult marriage in his

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01:06:31.320 --> 01:06:35.000
<v Speaker 1>books Yeahsviijahuda, who I'm going to be dealing with this figure,

1139
01:06:35.400 --> 01:06:38.719
<v Speaker 1>this cousin Niche had a student called Spijahuda, And I'm

1140
01:06:38.719 --> 01:06:43.639
<v Speaker 1>going to in my next post reveal very interesting stuff

1141
01:06:44.000 --> 01:06:50.119
<v Speaker 1>about this relationship of Spijahuda and and the but and

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01:06:50.159 --> 01:06:53.440
<v Speaker 1>anyone who the Krasnich knew this and look, it's not

1143
01:06:53.480 --> 01:06:55.559
<v Speaker 1>that it happens. And who says just because he's going

1144
01:06:55.599 --> 01:06:58.840
<v Speaker 1>to be stroll that has to have a perfect marriage.

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01:07:00.119 --> 01:07:04.480
<v Speaker 1>We have a talk by on our website. In my

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01:07:04.559 --> 01:07:08.519
<v Speaker 1>post I linked to it. Okay, thank you, okay. Who

1147
01:07:08.599 --> 01:07:13.519
<v Speaker 1>was Rajoel Margolis husband from Hias that's Mordeheim Margolios. Suzana

1148
01:07:13.519 --> 01:07:15.840
<v Speaker 1>says there were women composers who had to hide the

1149
01:07:15.880 --> 01:07:19.360
<v Speaker 1>fact that they are women in order to be published. Yeah,

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01:07:19.880 --> 01:07:24.679
<v Speaker 1>and there was a in the Haadi world. Sometimes what

1151
01:07:24.719 --> 01:07:27.199
<v Speaker 1>they do is they use the initial. They don't do

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01:07:27.199 --> 01:07:30.039
<v Speaker 1>their full name. They'll use their initial Ravarra. Nicholstein's mother

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01:07:30.480 --> 01:07:33.440
<v Speaker 1>published material intels. They had a tor A journal there

1154
01:07:33.480 --> 01:07:38.519
<v Speaker 1>and she published it under a pseudonym because it wasn't appropriate,

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01:07:38.559 --> 01:07:42.880
<v Speaker 1>they thought, but for women to be writing terrorst stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>As Reel says, he heard the story from Nutton Green Blat,

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01:07:46.920 --> 01:07:48.639
<v Speaker 1>who is probably the soul survivor of the Roughs coll

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01:07:48.679 --> 01:07:50.920
<v Speaker 1>You mean Israel the story that he woke up in

1159
01:07:50.920 --> 01:07:52.719
<v Speaker 1>the middle of the night. I mean it could be

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01:07:52.760 --> 01:07:54.440
<v Speaker 1>more than one. It might have happened more than once.

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01:07:54.480 --> 01:07:56.119
<v Speaker 1>But I heard it from I can't remember his name.

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01:07:56.159 --> 01:08:01.760
<v Speaker 1>He's professor of economics at George Mason Well says, maybe

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01:08:01.800 --> 01:08:03.679
<v Speaker 1>writing but don't rely on my PSAC is a way

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01:08:03.679 --> 01:08:05.800
<v Speaker 1>of setting a quasi precedent that could be used in

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01:08:05.800 --> 01:08:08.719
<v Speaker 1>subsequent generations. That is your convincer of the review, but

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01:08:08.760 --> 01:08:10.920
<v Speaker 1>don't feel the time is right. Well, that's what he says.

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01:08:10.960 --> 01:08:13.440
<v Speaker 1>He says, I leave it here until what he says

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01:08:13.320 --> 01:08:16.720
<v Speaker 1>as follows. Reva Mazous says, after giving us all the

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01:08:16.760 --> 01:08:19.319
<v Speaker 1>reasons should be permissible, he says, but I don't want

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01:08:19.359 --> 01:08:22.880
<v Speaker 1>people rely on me a shikimjameador until the great stages

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01:08:22.920 --> 01:08:25.439
<v Speaker 1>agree with me, and if they don't agree, then it

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01:08:25.439 --> 01:08:28.159
<v Speaker 1>should be So that's why asked for Schachter. And he

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01:08:28.159 --> 01:08:30.319
<v Speaker 1>says it makes perfect sense. And then I says, okay,

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01:08:30.359 --> 01:08:32.760
<v Speaker 1>So can I tell people you're mutterit that he didn't

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01:08:32.760 --> 01:08:35.000
<v Speaker 1>want to and it's not because he's afraid believe your

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01:08:35.119 --> 01:08:38.159
<v Speaker 1>Schechter says all sorts of stuff that his handlers always

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01:08:38.159 --> 01:08:39.840
<v Speaker 1>have to then retract it and find it a way

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01:08:39.880 --> 01:08:41.920
<v Speaker 1>out because they feel it they don't want him. He

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01:08:41.960 --> 01:08:44.880
<v Speaker 1>has these handlers who have to you know, He'll say, uh,

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01:08:44.960 --> 01:08:46.920
<v Speaker 1>they they had to. They took out of the website,

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01:08:46.960 --> 01:08:48.880
<v Speaker 1>the Jewish Press website when I showed you that he

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01:08:48.960 --> 01:08:51.439
<v Speaker 1>mottered swordfish, even though everyone knows it. He's been saying

1183
01:08:51.439 --> 01:08:54.079
<v Speaker 1>it for years. So they have these people who protect him,

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01:08:54.079 --> 01:08:56.199
<v Speaker 1>as it were in quotes. So it's not that he

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01:08:56.800 --> 01:08:59.439
<v Speaker 1>didn't know if he wanted to mutter it, but just

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01:08:59.439 --> 01:09:02.640
<v Speaker 1>because the law makes sense, you need to think about it.

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01:09:04.000 --> 01:09:06.600
<v Speaker 1>But you're right what you say, Schmool that he's writing it.

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01:09:07.079 --> 01:09:10.880
<v Speaker 1>But the question of the question is stey remed is

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01:09:10.920 --> 01:09:14.279
<v Speaker 1>stemed quotes sources that say you can ignore the last

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01:09:14.439 --> 01:09:16.840
<v Speaker 1>piece and just follow everything else. A good example of

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01:09:16.840 --> 01:09:20.800
<v Speaker 1>Thisscobromsky has a long chuva. It's printedents, it's alizer. I'm

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01:09:20.840 --> 01:09:23.720
<v Speaker 1>not sure lying four or five why gelatine is permitted,

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01:09:24.359 --> 01:09:26.079
<v Speaker 1>And at the end he says, but we can't permit

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01:09:26.159 --> 01:09:28.960
<v Speaker 1>it because even tho it's permitted, we can't permit it

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<v Speaker 1>because we've been accustomed not to eat gelatine in this country,

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01:09:32.119 --> 01:09:35.399
<v Speaker 1>stuck in England, and people will say that, well, that

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01:09:35.439 --> 01:09:38.119
<v Speaker 1>means a lot of changes, just like the conservatives. It

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01:09:38.279 --> 01:09:40.359
<v Speaker 1>raised an interesting question. He's just told you it's permitted,

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<v Speaker 1>So what happens if you eat it? What have you viuated?

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<v Speaker 1>But if you look, Hesco Bromsky's Chuva is often quoted

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01:09:47.359 --> 01:09:50.880
<v Speaker 1>by people to support the fact that gelatin's permitted, even

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01:09:50.920 --> 01:09:53.840
<v Speaker 1>though le mice in the end he ruled no for

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01:09:53.920 --> 01:09:56.960
<v Speaker 1>metahaloic reasons. And that's in line with the day Rehmed

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<v Speaker 1>who says that you can actually you don't need to

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<v Speaker 1>listen to the the end, because you could say that

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<v Speaker 1>only refers to that time, or he's just hesitant. But

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<v Speaker 1>we we accept him even though he doesn't want to

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<v Speaker 1>accept himself. Barry says remote pinks Scheimber was tom what

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<v Speaker 1>remotion salvation from whom he received smirrraen and then graduated

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<v Speaker 1>Brooken College and married a girl from her and Falley

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<v Speaker 1>and went to Mirror. I didn't even I didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>that he received from smigra from it from uh ramotion salivation.

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<v Speaker 1>That's uh. I didn't know that that's who he received

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<v Speaker 1>Smira from where. Okay, I I knew he went there,

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<v Speaker 1>but I didn't know it was Ramosha. He had other people.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it was the Matrix tour. But uh, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>let me look online quickly. Here. Oh it says no,

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<v Speaker 1>it says it says Romotion Salvation. I guess and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just okay. Wikipedia, Roby, Victor Miller, Reserve, Mosha, Bickerm Gifter,

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<v Speaker 1>and Robe Vachtol. He's from Lakewood, so uh. Someone privately

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<v Speaker 1>says that the warning in Devinian scene was aided by

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<v Speaker 1>the publisher. Well, that's the Sun. The unpublished it, so

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<v Speaker 1>you could say that, maybe, uh, it's just the Sun,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not the Vincio could be. Barry says, there a

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<v Speaker 1>back of Baltimore told us the story of the road

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<v Speaker 1>of waking the kids up at two a m. He

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<v Speaker 1>went to. But you know it probably was more than once,

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<v Speaker 1>because I don't think they were all there at the

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<v Speaker 1>same time. David says that doctor Avie Stolman is the

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<v Speaker 1>person who hired doctor Joel Finkelman, but he's not there

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<v Speaker 1>anymore at the library. He's had he's at Barilan there. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>very nice, thank you for correcting that. He also has

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<v Speaker 1>a PhD. And he wrote on Talmud. I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>an if not mistake. And I studied with Shama Friedman.

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<v Speaker 1>But he's also a love and he wrote a volume

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<v Speaker 1>of shows and Chuvos now says Zugot. We're in da

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<v Speaker 1>Fiomi a few days ago at Skier. I don't do daffiomi. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>let's see from Washington Avenue to Washington Street. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>iPad says that JP has put in tables with glass

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<v Speaker 1>tops because of the liberation Theftish in this renovation. If

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<v Speaker 1>you there's a very nice video with David Kramer's the

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<v Speaker 1>library and discussing how they have to have to re

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<v Speaker 1>imagine libraries in the digital age. Israel says, with the

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<v Speaker 1>cosumer Hasidim in publicly they visit the jats. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>but why not. He's going there to get the manuscripts.

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<v Speaker 1>Manuscripts are always published, and they always thank in the

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<v Speaker 1>introduction the seminary for letting them. And all these people

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<v Speaker 1>have to go to the seminary to see it. I've

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<v Speaker 1>seen other great Doris scholars at the seminary. You're going

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<v Speaker 1>to the library, You're going to look at the manuscripts. Look,

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<v Speaker 1>we go to the Vatican to see manuscripts. Barak says

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<v Speaker 1>that the largest lebot house in the world, that's Rutgers

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<v Speaker 1>is the largest one in the world. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if it is is official Rabbat and unofficial depend on

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<v Speaker 1>Messianic views. What I was told is that none of

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<v Speaker 1>the official ones are Messianic. But I think even if

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<v Speaker 1>you're not Messianic, if you just decided to open up

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<v Speaker 1>a Rabbat house to say I'm going to open a

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<v Speaker 1>Rabat house you don't ever have by Hearson's approval, then

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<v Speaker 1>you're unofficial. But the idea that then they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>bring you to Bastin because you don't have the right.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know who can copyright Abad as a philosophy,

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<v Speaker 1>just like I could open up and say I'm a summer,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a litfish or something. So for an I guess

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<v Speaker 1>if you're a Habad person, this is a personal thing,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's it's distressing if you're like a mainstream of

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<v Speaker 1>Kabbad that these independent people are opening and they're not

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<v Speaker 1>in line with the mainstream, are opening up and calling

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<v Speaker 1>a khabbad. But for outsiders who just want kosher meals

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<v Speaker 1>and a shabis Uh I was in India. You think

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<v Speaker 1>that people, these independent ones in New Jersey are may

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<v Speaker 1>be a little bit off. You go to India, they're

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<v Speaker 1>completely whacked out, even though they have amazing Masiris Nephish

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<v Speaker 1>to live in India. But they I opened up I

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<v Speaker 1>published this on the sparing Bog. I opened up the sparring.

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<v Speaker 1>They have a stamp there saying that the date was

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<v Speaker 1>it Gimo tamos. Nothing happened, everything is the same. They

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<v Speaker 1>don't believe. They believe the grave is empty. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you have some real craziness going in India, Zev says

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<v Speaker 1>or by Kawfmoor Wassi's teacher of the Baba Shiva and

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<v Speaker 1>Newark in nineteen sixty three. Yes, so Boward saysdr Issham.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sometimes they read rayal, they abbreviate it correct and

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<v Speaker 1>you're Rayal. In the Army of Ashem. When I was

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<v Speaker 1>in Gania Cerral day camp, we were all inducted. We

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<v Speaker 1>got our flags and we were inducted in Civo Sachem

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<v Speaker 1>in the Army of Ashm and we sang we want

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<v Speaker 1>Machier now, and we did not sing about the Rebbe.

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<v Speaker 1>This was in the mid seventies, we did not have

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<v Speaker 1>the rebbe in mind. Maybe in the secret that's what

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<v Speaker 1>they thought, but we just we They never ever told

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<v Speaker 1>us anything about the Rebbe as machir Ah. So Naftali

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<v Speaker 1>says that Bignell and Brown's book on the Cousination showed you.

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<v Speaker 1>That book, the Big One, discusses the shidoh and the

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<v Speaker 1>marriage and quotes call its extensively, and he really it

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<v Speaker 1>shows the cosnation of Sidcus. I'm sure he mentions it

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<v Speaker 1>as well that the cosation was deceived about her age

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<v Speaker 1>and when he found out, he refused to break the

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<v Speaker 1>shioch and there might have been an other issues and

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<v Speaker 1>they couldn't I've had children. He refuses to embarrass her,

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<v Speaker 1>And I mean that's so that's that's told about what

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<v Speaker 1>a sadiki is. That that's beyond the call of duty, obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's the rasiche. We're not all the David says

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<v Speaker 1>that when Raviral Lensin was walking Crown Knights in the fifties,

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<v Speaker 1>he crossed the rebby as they were walking and after

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<v Speaker 1>brief is change the Rebbie reminder of aral l scene

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<v Speaker 1>that years o Kodemus Ramasseo so you're in good company.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, but uh, it's one thing that year us

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<v Speaker 1>should go for a sparhasidus? What am I planning to

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<v Speaker 1>do in these classes? When I finished viewing a safer

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<v Speaker 1>while the plan was that someone important suggested it. Do

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<v Speaker 1>Shan Liberman take you into the world of American Orthodoxy

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<v Speaker 1>and conservative Judaism. There's a lot to do with Shaw

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<v Speaker 1>Liberman and Barrosas. Who gave the hector to fight the

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<v Speaker 1>Olympics on Shapis. No one gave the heatter to fight

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<v Speaker 1>the Ompics on Shapas. The Olympics weren't on Shampus. Who

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<v Speaker 1>was there? Of Shabas? What I said was that at

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<v Speaker 1>the first day of the Olympics was let's say, on

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<v Speaker 1>a Friday night, and the only way or let's say

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<v Speaker 1>it was a two day holiday and the only way

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<v Speaker 1>to get there was to violate it or something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh you, whatever it is. I I had no doubt

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<v Speaker 1>there'd be a hector for it, for it's only a

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<v Speaker 1>durabonn And this is a case it would be nephisch

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<v Speaker 1>if if you have to or have to if the

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<v Speaker 1>if putin were to send a car let's say, it's

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<v Speaker 1>shop this afternoon and Putin's car rolls up and says

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<v Speaker 1>that it's a jurgent. Putin says that Rebec Glazar has

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<v Speaker 1>to come to him. You think, uh, any post Sake

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<v Speaker 1>would say, of course Lazar could get in the car

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<v Speaker 1>and go there. It's it could be a matter of

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<v Speaker 1>puch Nephish. We have no idea how many Jewish lives.

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<v Speaker 1>And the important matter is Rebel Lazar because of the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that he can pick up the phone and call Putin,

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<v Speaker 1>how much good he has done. And uh, we know

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<v Speaker 1>there's all sorts of terror for people who are close

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<v Speaker 1>to the Melek. So I'm just saying hypothetically, if that was,

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<v Speaker 1>if that was the case, uh, that you could definitely

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<v Speaker 1>find a hector for that much easier than all these

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<v Speaker 1>other htarium for people working government. Yeah. Well, well, Lasar's

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<v Speaker 1>congregation might be small, but he controls the entire your

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<v Speaker 1>former Soviet union. And it's all rabbad. Other than a

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<v Speaker 1>show here and a show there, It's it's all rabbad.

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<v Speaker 1>So yes, someone puts a Rubi g Relic was the

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<v Speaker 1>the RaBaD and Milan, Yes, he passed away, David says

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<v Speaker 1>regarding Rabbie Lamb typing one of the holy names. Many

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<v Speaker 1>posts them say that any writing such is typing, which

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<v Speaker 1>is not kosher. As her safer tour is not prohibited

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<v Speaker 1>writing and he gives sources. Okay, so thank you for that,

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<v Speaker 1>so you wouldn't need to if it's not type of

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<v Speaker 1>And you know this also relates to the question I

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<v Speaker 1>spoke about Bethel. Remember the old question about Bethel. If

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<v Speaker 1>you write Bethel, it's not a Hebrew that was the question,

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<v Speaker 1>could you do it or not? And we spoke about that,

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<v Speaker 1>and Mel says he attended classes given by Shuda at

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<v Speaker 1>BRS and Boca. Yes, I will deal more as I

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<v Speaker 1>said with Jahuda. Rabbi Wakfogo was a student Nussen Vachvogel

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<v Speaker 1>was a student at Yeshiva College. Either of Cook biography

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<v Speaker 1>or Cook biography done. We just gotta these aren't these

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<v Speaker 1>academic books are not like books that in the where

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<v Speaker 1>you just finish it and you then publish it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you have readers and you have other things. And okay, everyone,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you. Well, we one more class before Paysach. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>pick up with the Bob Jura's Rebby's Letter to my Family.

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<v Speaker 2>This series was originally recorded in twenty twenty and twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty one as part of an ongoing lecture series. To

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<v Speaker 2>sign up to attend the lecture on zoom, please visit

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