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Speaker 4: Hi, and welcome back to another episode of Deplorable Nation.
Speaker 4: I'm your host, Deplorable Janet, and today, welcome back, ladies
Speaker 4: and gentlemen to another round table ladies discussion. And today
Speaker 4: we are going to be discussing and breaking down the
Speaker 4: Book of Jonah because this is highly significant and I
Speaker 4: did not realize how highly significant until recently, and I
Speaker 4: read it and reread it and reread it, and light
Speaker 4: switches went on like all over the place, and I
Speaker 4: was like, oh, we got to talk about that. So
Speaker 4: welcome back to my lovely, beautiful co host of the
Speaker 4: episode today, Miss Heidi, Miss Tam and Miss Julia. Welcome ladies,
Speaker 4: Thank you Janet.
Speaker 5: Hello, So does Heidi have a call? So I'm sorry, guys.
Speaker 4: She sounds like a man. I told her before the
Speaker 4: show we should all talk in really deep voices because
Speaker 4: it might be funny.
Speaker 2: I'm down.
Speaker 5: I love it. Gotta do more wrathy.
Speaker 4: That's ody.
Speaker 3: You might you might turn somebody on. Heidi, you better
Speaker 3: hear man.
Speaker 5: That's gonna happen. It's speaky too. It's like thirteen.
Speaker 4: Boy, you got that coming of a voice going on.
Speaker 1: Thing. Oh boy.
Speaker 4: So today we are going to break Jonah down chapter
Speaker 4: by chapter because there's only four and there's four of us,
Speaker 4: so each one of us is going to read that
Speaker 4: particular book of Jonah and then we are going to
Speaker 4: have discussion afterwards. So Miss Julia, we're gonna start Hello, Hello,
Speaker 4: I have.
Speaker 3: I have the first chapter, and I have one of
Speaker 3: those translation Bibles. I know some people aren't on with
Speaker 3: the translation ones, but it was a gift from my sister,
Speaker 3: so I have to use it. It skips all the
Speaker 3: these and thows and the confusing stuff, so it's it's
Speaker 3: pretty cool.
Speaker 1: I like it.
Speaker 3: But your Bible might say something a little bit different.
Speaker 4: And that's that's okay because I'm using the New Living Translation.
Speaker 4: So each one of us may have a different but
Speaker 4: it's the same basic premise. Yeah, what do you use
Speaker 4: from using them?
Speaker 1: King James?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Should I I'll try to put on my narration voice
Speaker 3: because I feel like this is one of the longer chapters.
Speaker 3: So and then I'm really curious to see what you
Speaker 3: guys think of everything. So I guess we'll just get going. Jonah,
Speaker 3: it's a Jonah runs from the Lord and it the
Speaker 3: first chapter says, the Lord gave this message to Jonah,
Speaker 3: get up and go to the great city of Ninevah,
Speaker 3: announce my judgment against it, because I have seen how
Speaker 3: wicked its people are. But Jonah got up and went
Speaker 3: in the opposite direction to get away from the Lord.
Speaker 3: He went down to the port of I don't even
Speaker 3: know how to say this guy's Jobah Joppa, where he
Speaker 3: found a ship leaving for Tarshish. He bought a ticket
Speaker 3: and went on board, hoping to escape from the Lord
Speaker 3: by sailing to Tarshish, which I don't really know where
Speaker 3: that is. It's probably some random okay, okay, And but
Speaker 3: the Lord a powerful wind over the sea, causing a
Speaker 3: violent storm that threatened to break the ship apart. Fearing
Speaker 3: for their lives, the desperate sailors shouted to their gods
Speaker 3: for help and threw the cargo overboard to lighten the ship.
Speaker 3: But all this time Jonah was sound asleep down in
Speaker 3: the hold lazy, so the cap went down after him.
Speaker 3: How can you sleep out a time like this, he shouted,
Speaker 3: Get up and pray to your god. Maybe he will
Speaker 3: pay attention to us and spare our lives. Then the
Speaker 3: crew cast lots to see which one of them had
Speaker 3: offended the gods and caused this awful storm to come
Speaker 3: down on us. Who are you? What is your line
Speaker 3: of work? What country are you from? What is your nationality?
Speaker 3: Jonah answered, I am a Hebrew, and I worship the Lord,
Speaker 3: the God of heaven, who made the sea and the land.
Speaker 3: The sailors were terrified when they heard this, for he
Speaker 3: had already told them he was running away from the Lord.
Speaker 3: Oh why did you do it? They groaned, And since
Speaker 3: the storm was getting worse all the time, they asked him,
Speaker 3: what should we do to you to stop this storm?
Speaker 3: Throw me into the sea, Jonah said, and it will
Speaker 3: become calm again. I know that this terrible storm is
Speaker 3: all my fault. Instead, the sailors road even harder to
Speaker 3: get the ship to land, but the stormy sea was
Speaker 3: too violent for them and they couldn't make it. Then
Speaker 3: they cried out to the Lord Jonah's god, Oh Lord,
Speaker 3: they pleaded, don't make us die for this man's sin,
Speaker 3: and don't hold us responsible for his death. Oh Lord,
Speaker 3: you have sent this storm upon him for your own
Speaker 3: good reasons. Then the sailors picked up and threw him
Speaker 3: into the raging sea, and the storm stopped at once.
Speaker 3: The sailors were awestruck by the Lord's great power, and
Speaker 3: they offered him a sacrifice and vowed to serve him. Now,
Speaker 3: the Lord had arranged for a great fish to swallow Jonah,
Speaker 3: and Jonah was inside the fish for three days and
Speaker 3: three nights. And that is all of part one. Chapter one,
Speaker 3: I should say, is mine sounds like a kindergarten school
Speaker 3: teacher wrote it.
Speaker 2: This.
Speaker 3: I sometimes I don't like the translation Bibles, you know,
Speaker 3: these study Bibles, because I think they are I mean,
Speaker 3: they make it more easy to understand. But I'm sure
Speaker 3: you're the regular version of this story is a little different.
Speaker 3: What I mean, what do you guys think of chapter one?
Speaker 4: There's a lot in that.
Speaker 6: Lot.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and so my first thought on that was disobedience
Speaker 4: first and foremost, because you know, God told him to
Speaker 4: do one thing and he totally went the opposite direction,
Speaker 4: and he's like, Nope, not going to do that, and
Speaker 4: for people that are new to the Bible, that is
Speaker 4: like a common theme with a lot of people. Moses
Speaker 4: did it, Like a lot of people in the Bible
Speaker 4: did it, you know, where God said go do this
Speaker 4: and they're like, Nope, don't want to. And I think
Speaker 4: that's pretty commonplace for people of our day.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm. How many times have I been Jonah A lot?
Speaker 3: I mean, minus the fish, I would say a lot,
Speaker 3: same girl thing. Yeah, It's like it's like, so this
Speaker 3: is another story. But you remember in Genesis when he
Speaker 3: asks Cain, where's your brother and he's like, well, I'm
Speaker 3: not his keeper. There's such attitude that comes from you know,
Speaker 3: and it's like hey, jon and I need you to
Speaker 3: go do this. How about No, I'm about to get
Speaker 3: on a boat and sail to the opposite side of
Speaker 3: the country. Like how many times I have myself personally,
Speaker 3: I've done that a lot.
Speaker 1: Money Python, run away.
Speaker 5: Your coconuts.
Speaker 4: And I think that's like this part where he's talking
Speaker 4: about like this massive storm comes up, you know, and
Speaker 4: and the it's so violent that it was threatening to
Speaker 4: break the ship apart and stuff. What happens to us
Speaker 4: in our daily lives when we completely ignore what God
Speaker 4: says or what God wants us to do or how
Speaker 4: he wants us to react, what happens literally stormy chaos.
Speaker 4: That's why a lot of people always say, I don't
Speaker 4: know why all these bad things keep happening to me
Speaker 4: over and over and over again.
Speaker 5: That's literally my life.
Speaker 3: It's funny too, because as I was reading that that
Speaker 3: part specifically, and it's like everybody else is freaking out.
Speaker 3: It's total chaos. Like you said, the ship is, you know,
Speaker 3: rocking all over the place. Where's Jonah asleep somewhere down
Speaker 3: in the cargo hole. And he has a guilty conscience.
Speaker 4: Like I was gonna say, it satisfied his ego, that's
Speaker 4: why he was sleeping so good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he knew he had literally a guilty conscience. They're
Speaker 3: all freaking out and we're all going to die, and
Speaker 3: he's like, well, it's kind of my bee, but you know,
Speaker 3: if you throw me into the ocean, maybe that'll make
Speaker 3: God happy. Like he even knew what he needed to
Speaker 3: be done exactly. I'm sorry, Yeah, I got a nap
Speaker 3: right right. Either way, you're gonna die because you brought
Speaker 3: this on yourself. So if you stay on the ship,
Speaker 3: you're going to kill everybody, or you could sacrifice yourself.
Speaker 3: So he did have a chance, and thankfully he made
Speaker 3: the right decision to be selfless in that moment. But
Speaker 3: he it was only because he had a guilty concept.
Speaker 3: He knew he was doing something he wasn't supposed to
Speaker 3: be doing.
Speaker 1: Which what's interesting did that though? Yeah? On the ship
Speaker 1: they said they were it was a pagan ship. But
Speaker 1: even they were going, what is going on? And they
Speaker 1: even like, you know, tested did who did?
Speaker 6: It?
Speaker 1: Was a game? They did a lot or something like
Speaker 1: that was a game or something. Yeah, and then they
Speaker 1: and it landed surprisingly on Jonah And but I mean
Speaker 1: even they were looking for answers and they the pagans
Speaker 1: actually said, you know, to appease your god. This god
Speaker 1: something we got to get rid of. You got to
Speaker 1: get rid of you.
Speaker 5: You're sorry, I'm bad luck.
Speaker 3: That's that's that one part. It says, uh, who are you?
Speaker 3: What is your line of work? What country are you from?
Speaker 3: What is your nationality? I mean that's just another way
Speaker 3: of saying, who the hell are you?
Speaker 5: What did you do?
Speaker 3: Because obviously you're involved with some shady stuff, Like where
Speaker 3: did you.
Speaker 4: Come with somebody really upset.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, like tell us your story, asshole. So that's
Speaker 3: why I think this is very important for like the
Speaker 3: every day because I mean, I've been Jonah, like I
Speaker 3: said a million times. But when you read a story
Speaker 3: like this as a kid, the only part you remember
Speaker 3: is he got swallowed by the fish, right, And you
Speaker 3: know that's the part that stays with you. A whale.
Speaker 3: Actually it doesn't even say a whale. It says a fish,
Speaker 3: a great fish. So yeah, I think it's important to
Speaker 3: go back as adults and reread some of these stories.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Jonah the whale, and you think you know,
Speaker 3: and then you go back and reread it, and it's
Speaker 3: super relevant to adult life more than a kid.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 1: Not to defend Jonah, but he was in a situation.
Speaker 1: It was a lose lose situation because either he goes
Speaker 1: and warns his enemies, which he doesn't want to do
Speaker 1: to shape shape up, or you're gonna be destroyed. He'd
Speaker 1: rather see them destroyed, so he doesn't want to warn them.
Speaker 1: That's crazy. But then if he doesn't, I mean, he's
Speaker 1: obviously the drowning was bad, and then it gets worse.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: I was like Okay, I'm gonna drown. Okay, so now
Speaker 1: the now the big fish, the great fish, the whale.
Speaker 1: Then it gets worse and then okay, yeah, but that's he.
Speaker 6: Did flight and freeze at the same time, able to
Speaker 6: take care of it. Yeah, I'm sleeping bye uh huh.
Speaker 3: I can't imagine a worse death than than drowning. That's
Speaker 3: that's one of my scared of that. Yeah, I'm scared
Speaker 3: of deep water. I'm scared of dark deep water, and
Speaker 3: I'm scared of h heights. So those are two ways.
Speaker 4: Are oh my gosh.
Speaker 6: Like when we went in the ocean and Maui and
Speaker 6: you could see, you know, but I thought it would
Speaker 6: be cool if we snorkeled, but it was like super
Speaker 6: more here and I was like you And I looked
Speaker 6: at my ex husband and I said, he goes, what
Speaker 6: is your problem?
Speaker 5: I said, have you ever seen a.
Speaker 6: Ship be swapped? Just a yacht wallowed in like three
Speaker 6: point nine minutes?
Speaker 5: Because I have and it was gone, and and you know,
Speaker 5: there's so many of them down there.
Speaker 6: You hear this all the time. And then you see
Speaker 6: a whale and how big one whale is, and then
Speaker 6: you know there's tons of what and.
Speaker 3: It just that's what gets me.
Speaker 4: I mean, you don't you don't want to take a
Speaker 4: ride on a fish anytime soon?
Speaker 5: WHOA, definitely not.
Speaker 3: It's even worse too, because, like, if you grow up
Speaker 3: in the South like I did, there's so many little
Speaker 3: swimming holes and places you can go jump in. The
Speaker 3: water is so freaking dirty. You can't see your hand
Speaker 3: if you put it in five inches, let alone a
Speaker 3: huge fish about to eat your you know, water moccasins.
Speaker 4: Wet when we were little because my parents would not
Speaker 4: take us, like to a swimming pool, and so we
Speaker 4: would always go swim in a lake or or whatever,
Speaker 4: and you would literally get nibbled on by stuff. Have
Speaker 4: no idea what was chewing on you?
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then if you're real lucky, you get out
Speaker 3: and you got a bunch of leeches on you.
Speaker 4: Stuff. Hey, they're they're they're healthy for you, right, leeches are.
Speaker 1: Stuff. But anyways, have you gotten stung by jellyfish? How
Speaker 1: much that hurts?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: Thank you so much, though, thank you. I'm good. But
Speaker 3: think about think about, like I said, what two of
Speaker 3: my greatest fears that if you were going to pick
Speaker 3: anyway the worst ways to die deep dark water, drowning
Speaker 3: in its stormy seat, or like falling off of a
Speaker 3: really high tall building or something like that would be
Speaker 3: for me.
Speaker 1: But so Joan, you know this is it's not the
Speaker 1: fall that gets you. It's the landing.
Speaker 6: Oh God, right, I can't even look at those perpetual warriors, right,
Speaker 6: we're like worrying the whole way down.
Speaker 4: Did I put the clothes in the dryer?
Speaker 6: You know that.
Speaker 3: It's a falling just seems like I I, how long
Speaker 3: are you aware before you hit? You know, it's like
Speaker 3: free falling anyways. But at least Jonah had the wherewithal
Speaker 3: to sacrifice himself to save everybody else. But I also
Speaker 3: think it's because he knew that but after he got
Speaker 3: in the water, God still had a purpose for him
Speaker 3: in that he would still save him. So even though
Speaker 3: he sacrificed himself and they tossed him overboard and he
Speaker 3: was actively running from God, he still knew that he
Speaker 3: would be saved after he got into the water. So
Speaker 3: I think that's also important, is that it's best of
Speaker 3: faith as well.
Speaker 4: And I just want to point out that three days
Speaker 4: because and the Bible is uber significant number three and
Speaker 4: the Bible, which recurs repeatedly throughout the Bible, marks divine intervention, completeness,
Speaker 4: and spiritual significance. So keep that in mind when we
Speaker 4: go through the next parts, because that's what slammed me
Speaker 4: in the head like a pickup truck, because jesus resurrection
Speaker 4: was after three days m hm, and so that's part
Speaker 4: of the light that was coming on.
Speaker 1: So anyway, also, they brought the three gifts to Jesus
Speaker 1: when he was worn three yeah, three wise men.
Speaker 5: All the way yeah, Trinity.
Speaker 3: The way through, it's all the way through. When that
Speaker 3: shad wracked me, shack and a bendigo in the furnace,
Speaker 3: always kind of three popping up there. But I forget
Speaker 3: who you said, who has two.
Speaker 5: Chapter?
Speaker 3: Chapter two? Oh, Janet has chapter.
Speaker 4: I do, and I'm so excited about that.
Speaker 3: I'm excited as well.
Speaker 1: She was elbowing everybody else out of the way for this.
Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm taking part two. It's yeah, because the
Speaker 4: very last part of Julia's is what set things in motion.
Speaker 4: And when I read two and reread too, and mind you,
Speaker 4: I've read the Bible like a lot of times over
Speaker 4: my lifetime, and it wasn't until recently that everything just went.
Speaker 4: It's kind of like God was like hello, like pay attention. Yeah,
Speaker 4: So anything else on part one no, okay, So Part
Speaker 4: two is Jonah's prayer. Then Jonah prayed to the Lord,
Speaker 4: his God from inside the fish. He said, I cried
Speaker 4: out to the Lord in my great trouble, and he
Speaker 4: answered me, I called to you from the land of
Speaker 4: the dead. That's very significant. And Lord, you heard me.
Speaker 4: You threw me into the ocean depths, and I I
Speaker 4: sank down to the heart of the sea. The mighty
Speaker 4: waters engulfed me. I was buried beneath your wild and
Speaker 4: stormy waves. Then I said, O Lord, you have driven
Speaker 4: me from your presence, Yet I will look once more
Speaker 4: towards your holy temple. I sank beneath the waves, and
Speaker 4: the waters closed over me. Seaweed wrapped itself around my head.
Speaker 4: I sank down to the very roots of the mountain.
Speaker 4: I was imprisoned in the earth, whose gateslock shut forever.
Speaker 4: But you, o Lord, my God, snatched me from the
Speaker 4: jaws of death. As my life was slipping away, I
Speaker 4: remembered the Lord, and my earnest prayer went out to
Speaker 4: you in your holy temple. Those who worship false gods
Speaker 4: turn their backs on all of God's mercies. But I
Speaker 4: will offer sacrifices to you with songs and praise, and
Speaker 4: I will fulfill all my vows. For my salvation comes
Speaker 4: to the Lord alone. Then the Lord ordered the fish
Speaker 4: to spit out Jonah onto the beach, ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 4: This is super exciting for me. Okay. So even in
Speaker 4: times where we are struggling the most and going through turmoil, crisis, whatever,
Speaker 4: that's when he hears us the most. He hears us
Speaker 4: at all times, but that is when he hears us
Speaker 4: the most. And when it says that he called out
Speaker 4: to him from the land of the dead, that is
Speaker 4: significant because when you are in the land of the dead,
Speaker 4: you are spiritually dead. You have not followed God, you've
Speaker 4: disobeyed God, you haven't repented for your sins, all of
Speaker 4: that stuff. So think about this. We're going to go
Speaker 4: back to Genesis, right. So God created the waters above,
Speaker 4: and he created the firmament to separate the waters above
Speaker 4: from the waters below. So in Julia's part, he was
Speaker 4: talking about being in the deep waters and you know,
Speaker 4: sinking down and how stormy it was under that. Think
Speaker 4: about baptism. When you are baptized, the waters below are
Speaker 4: where all the suns and the turmoil should be staying.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 4: That's where all of our what do you call it, like,
Speaker 4: all of our sin and all of our disobedience and
Speaker 4: all of those things die underneath the water, in the
Speaker 4: deep water, so that when we rise above to the
Speaker 4: waters above, we're given new life and rebirth and resurretion
Speaker 4: resurrection which hence the number three and the resurrecting after
Speaker 4: three days. Now here's what got me. So a couple
Speaker 4: of things. He was talking about seaweed wrapping around his head.
Speaker 4: Where's our third eye, right, which is our connection to
Speaker 4: be able to see God, to hear God, to interpret
Speaker 4: his message, we have to have that mental clarity. And
Speaker 4: so seaweed is wrapping around his head, so his vision
Speaker 4: toward God is closed off at that particular time as
Speaker 4: he's sinking under the water, and he's talking about the
Speaker 4: weeds being under the water and stuff, which how many
Speaker 4: times in life do we need to weed our gardens
Speaker 4: and get rid of our sins and our setbacks and
Speaker 4: our need for you know, material of things or you know,
Speaker 4: substance abuse, things like that. So God talks about weeds
Speaker 4: in fifteen different books in the Bible, and he talks
Speaker 4: about how and roots, and with roots you have to
Speaker 4: be able to have healthy roots for them to bear fruit. Right,
Speaker 4: And so all of these things started adding up for me.
Speaker 4: And I'm going to get to the fish in a minute,
Speaker 4: because the fish is a very significant thing as well.
Speaker 4: But it says that he sank down to the very
Speaker 4: root of the mountain, which just dawn dug me. The
Speaker 4: root of the mountain is actually Hades significant because in
Speaker 4: the Gospels, in Matthew and Luke God he references multiple times.
Speaker 4: Matthew twelve thirty nine through forty one says, but he
Speaker 4: answered and said, unto them, an evil and adulterous generation
Speaker 4: seeketh after a sign, and there shall no sign be
Speaker 4: given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonah.
Speaker 4: For as Jonah was three days and three nights in
Speaker 4: the wales belly, so shall the son of Man be
Speaker 4: three days and three night, three nights in the heart
Speaker 4: of the earth. Hades hell. Because there's two parts of Hades,
Speaker 4: And we'll talk about that in a second too. The
Speaker 4: men of let's see, the men of none of us
Speaker 4: shall rise in judgment with this generation and shall condemn
Speaker 4: it because they repented at the preaching of Jonah. And behold,
Speaker 4: a greater than Jonah is here, meaning Jesus God. Matthew
Speaker 4: sixteen four says Jesus again references Jonah and criticizing the Pharisees,
Speaker 4: and he says, wicked and adulterous generation seek it after
Speaker 4: a sign, and there shall no sign be given unto
Speaker 4: it with the sign of prophet Jonah. And he left
Speaker 4: them and departed. Luke again references the same kind of
Speaker 4: thing where it's all about Jonah. So Jonah's resurrection from
Speaker 4: the depths and from Hades for three days. Jesus's resurrection
Speaker 4: was three days, and that like never dawned on me before.
Speaker 4: And so I'm thinking, hmm, that's interesting. So when we die,
Speaker 4: we go to Hades called Paradise, and then we resurrect
Speaker 4: from there into Heaven. But that's discussed like a depth
Speaker 4: in the what's it called Revelation where it talks about
Speaker 4: the two different parts of Hades and how you have
Speaker 4: the the good part, which is Paradise, and then you
Speaker 4: have the other part. So Jonah actually took a trip
Speaker 4: in the fish to Hades, just like Jesus did, which
Speaker 4: was a foreshadowing. So here's something interesting about fish. Fish
Speaker 4: is significant in the Bible because not only does it
Speaker 4: call for nourishment, but it also signifies faith in Christ
Speaker 4: divine provisioning. So instead of letting Jonah drowned or die,
Speaker 4: he took him by fish down to Hades kept him
Speaker 4: in the belly of the fish for three days. It's
Speaker 4: a sign of transformation as well and your trust and
Speaker 4: connection to God through faith. And that's why in the
Speaker 4: Bible it always references fishers of men. So we have
Speaker 4: to die and go to Hades, you know, signified by
Speaker 4: baptism to be able to be reborn again. And so yeah, wow,
Speaker 4: I didn't even put the Jesus Jonah thing together and
Speaker 4: it went, Oh.
Speaker 3: My God is crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's powerful.
Speaker 3: That's why I love the Bible. Man, this is what
Speaker 3: I'm talking about, because there's so many ways you can
Speaker 3: interpret this. And I was not expecting you to go there, Janet.
Speaker 3: I really wasn't, but I love where you went with it.
Speaker 3: I went and, like I said, it's like a five
Speaker 3: layer burrito, because at the base of it is what
Speaker 3: Janet's talking about. But you can go a layer above
Speaker 3: that and say, I've said it before. I think the
Speaker 3: Bible is one of the most supernatural texts ever. I
Speaker 3: think there's so many things you can gather from this,
Speaker 3: and that's why I think we now understand about the
Speaker 3: firmament and more flat earth type things because we've interpreted
Speaker 3: it in a different way. And I'm with you, Janet,
Speaker 3: I think he actually went to hell because what he's
Speaker 3: talking about here, you threw me into the depths of
Speaker 3: the ocean. I sank down to the heart of the sea.
Speaker 3: He was completely engulfed. And then he says, I sink
Speaker 3: down to the very roots of the mountains, and I
Speaker 3: was imprisoned in the Earth, whose gates lock shut forever.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 3: You didn't dawn on me that one way.
Speaker 4: It didn't dawn on me until recently. And I'm like,
Speaker 4: oh my gosh.
Speaker 3: But I think people misunderstand, like flat earth can't possibly
Speaker 3: be hollow as well. But I think those two things
Speaker 3: can exist simultaneously. I think we can have a flat
Speaker 3: Earth with a almost like a what do they call
Speaker 3: it shield, something like this. It's it's like a dome
Speaker 3: shape that descends down underneath. And I think that is
Speaker 3: where you can go I think you can get there
Speaker 3: via bottom of the ocean, for sure. I think if
Speaker 3: you look for it in the right places and caves
Speaker 3: and stuff like that, there's all these tunnel systems and
Speaker 3: you can get down there. I think that a lot
Speaker 3: of this stuff can be taken. Literally. Jonah literally was
Speaker 3: taken to the bottom of the ocean and literally went
Speaker 3: to hell for three days. You know, if you want
Speaker 3: to get real conspiratorial, I don't you know the fish
Speaker 3: is significant, as Janet was saying, but fish could almost
Speaker 3: be because a whale is a mammal. See, this is
Speaker 3: where I get in the weeds, because let's just say, the.
Speaker 4: Fish get in the weeds. Weeds are.
Speaker 3: Because what if it was just another way of saying
Speaker 3: something that they didn't have a word for at the time,
Speaker 3: some way of him like a vehicle, a portal of vortex,
Speaker 3: something opened up in the ocean and swallowed him down
Speaker 3: into hell. That seems like an access point to me,
Speaker 3: Like he got thrown overboard, something opened up and swallowed him,
Speaker 3: and then he sunk down into the earth, into hell
Speaker 3: for three days, and then he was spat back out
Speaker 3: onto the beach. I mean, this is a this is
Speaker 3: an incredible story, and it's like Janet was saying, there's
Speaker 3: so many levels. It's more than just like what I'm
Speaker 3: saying about, like the conspiratorial stuff that makes it fun.
Speaker 3: But if you go deeper than that, if you look
Speaker 3: at the spiritual meaning behind it, it's even more significant because,
Speaker 3: like you were saying, it's kind of like this foreshadowing
Speaker 3: with the three days and going to Hell and coming back.
Speaker 3: But yeah, that's that's what I got out of it,
Speaker 3: because you know, some of these stories, when you go
Speaker 3: back and reread them, you wonder how in the world
Speaker 3: people have discounted them over time. Oh Joan in the whale,
Speaker 3: you know. But there's so much more in there.
Speaker 4: That's why I was like, oh my God, Like, after
Speaker 4: all of this time and after as many times as
Speaker 4: I've read this, it just literally hit me like a
Speaker 4: ton of bricks. I'm like, oh my gosh. It's it's
Speaker 4: literally about his resurrection and turning back to his faith
Speaker 4: in God, because he's talking about, you know, looking up
Speaker 4: from the depths, you know, and praising God and basically
Speaker 4: like repenting that he send and disobeyed in the first place,
Speaker 4: and so he's looking up to God's Temple, which is
Speaker 4: above the water, you know, and above the firmament, so
Speaker 4: you know, I was like, oh my gosh.
Speaker 3: And it's almost like God's God's given him a warning shot.
Speaker 3: It's like, how did you like those three days in hell?
Speaker 3: You want to go back there?
Speaker 5: You like what you saw?
Speaker 3: I want you want some more of that? I mean,
Speaker 3: it's it's like, you know what else could scare you
Speaker 3: into being obedient?
Speaker 4: Mm hmm?
Speaker 3: Because God was doing some really yeah, I mean he was.
Speaker 3: He was doing some real teacher ring back at the
Speaker 3: Old Testament, and Jesus kind of softened him a little
Speaker 3: bit for us. But he was doing some hard teaching,
Speaker 3: hard love moments in the Old Testament. This is definitely
Speaker 3: one of them, right, So I think he could have
Speaker 3: been swallowed up and taken to inner Earth and into
Speaker 3: Hell for three days. It's like, hey, did you like that? Jonah?
Speaker 3: I bet you wish you would have just did what
Speaker 3: I said the first time, huh.
Speaker 1: I think the funniest part showing that God has a
Speaker 1: sense of humor is when the when, the when, the
Speaker 1: fish that will vomit him back up. It's right on tars.
Speaker 1: She's exactly where he was supposed to be so right
Speaker 1: ended up being where he was supposed to be anyway.
Speaker 7: That was Yeahney, that he thought it was possible to
Speaker 7: escape God, right right, I'm like, where.
Speaker 5: Are you gonna go?
Speaker 4: Where are you gonna hide at? Because God literally created
Speaker 4: the earth.
Speaker 3: So he's spit him back up on this on the spot.
Speaker 3: He was going to mm hmm.
Speaker 5: Oh my.
Speaker 1: That's another thing where he was running away on that ship.
Speaker 1: And then when he's in the whale, he he thought
Speaker 1: he was running away, so he thought he could get
Speaker 1: away from God. When he's thinking that, and then in
Speaker 1: the whale, he's praying to God. So not only did
Speaker 1: God know where he was, did God? But he's inside
Speaker 1: the belly of the fish or whatever, and he's he's
Speaker 1: his thought is to pray to God. So now he's
Speaker 1: here with me. But I thought I could run away
Speaker 1: from him.
Speaker 3: So wow. And it's like by the time he gets
Speaker 3: spit out on the beach, it's, oh, you want to
Speaker 3: go talk, sh let me take you, Let me take
Speaker 3: We're gonna write and style Jonah, We're gonna there you go.
Speaker 3: It's like, let me take you where you're trying to go.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, Well that is just such a powerful
Speaker 3: story to me, and I just get excited when I
Speaker 3: look back into these I you should have seen me, Tam,
Speaker 3: when I discovered like the biblical flatter stuff. I was
Speaker 3: just telling everybody.
Speaker 1: I knew.
Speaker 3: I was getting verbal altercations with people because I just
Speaker 3: I couldn't believe it's all. It's all in there, you know,
Speaker 3: right there, and how do we not see it before?
Speaker 1: And I also Heidi, you just had a wrote just
Speaker 1: recently and it was that time feels like it's speeding up.
Speaker 1: It feels like is being compressed, doesn't it. That's what
Speaker 1: it feels like to me. It's like we're getting all
Speaker 1: this information, we're trying to process it so fast, and
Speaker 1: it's all interconnected. It's all related.
Speaker 4: That's why I think like doing this story is really
Speaker 4: relevant for today's times of turmoil and chaos that we're
Speaker 4: living through because it gives so much more clarity. Because
Speaker 4: people can read this and be like, oh, it's a story,
Speaker 4: it could never happen if it's not a swellow person,
Speaker 4: blah blah blah, all of these things. But if you
Speaker 4: look at the the parallels that God is suggesting in this,
Speaker 4: it is absolutely perfect to the way people are today.
Speaker 4: They turn away from what they know is right, what
Speaker 4: they know is good, what they should be doing, and
Speaker 4: instead they give into the chaos and the turmoil and
Speaker 4: the storms, and they cause storms for the other sailors, right,
Speaker 4: the other people on the planet, and they're wanting everybody
Speaker 4: else to absorb the burdens.
Speaker 1: Because it's even go away, right, you still have they
Speaker 1: still have that task. He still had to go and
Speaker 1: he was yeah, deliver another just real quick. Was from before,
Speaker 1: like I guess the Latin and everything that everything had
Speaker 1: to be interpreted, Everything had to be explained everything. You
Speaker 1: had to go to church to hear the word and
Speaker 1: they had to translate it for you and all this.
Speaker 1: And the difference now is we have I had so
Speaker 1: much fun going through all the different the different books.
Speaker 1: I was like collecting all the little kids books and
Speaker 1: little ones that we've had, and I just like brought
Speaker 1: done of them together into different interpretations. But now we
Speaker 1: can decipher it and we can re interpret it and
Speaker 1: read it and see what we find out. I love
Speaker 1: that that it's so information is so much now with
Speaker 1: the Internet obviously too, it's way even easier. But I
Speaker 1: mean even with the books and stuff we could read
Speaker 1: on our own. And but how what a great time
Speaker 1: now instead of having to depend on someone else is
Speaker 1: translation interpretation mm hmmm.
Speaker 4: And you don't you don't need a pastor to like
Speaker 4: interpret for you, because if you read it and when
Speaker 4: God wants you to hear the message, he is definitely
Speaker 4: gonna let you hear it like you did to me.
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna say the same.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I was like, oh, I got like shivers and chills,
Speaker 4: and I was like, oh my gosh, Okay, I got
Speaker 4: it this time, like a shot at me with a megaphone.
Speaker 4: Maybe because I'm old and deaf, and that's why I
Speaker 4: didn't get it the first three hundred times, right, But.
Speaker 1: The baptism, the water, the cleansing, that was a whole
Speaker 1: different level that I hadn't thought about I either.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, when when it's in there, it's it'll it'll
Speaker 3: reveal itself to you. And however it's meant to you
Speaker 3: know when it's the time for you to understand it, what.
Speaker 5: Were you going to say, like dying to your old
Speaker 5: self too? Yes, he had to die from his own
Speaker 5: self like and let it go. And that is hard,
Speaker 5: that is that's one of the hardest things.
Speaker 4: And you know, I think one of the things for
Speaker 4: people these days, and this is probably gonna like upset
Speaker 4: some people, but one of the things that they don't
Speaker 4: talk about enough in modern day like church in a
Speaker 4: building church is what sin is and that you have
Speaker 4: to be able to repent for your sin. So obviously
Speaker 4: Jonah knew because he was like, you know what, like
Speaker 4: he wanted me to do this. I wanted to do
Speaker 4: what I wanted to do, and so Jonah knew and
Speaker 4: he was like throw me overboard, because you shouldn't have
Speaker 4: to carry my sins like this is this is on me.
Speaker 4: It's my fault because I disobeyed God. So sin is
Speaker 4: a lot of things. Sin is how you speak to
Speaker 4: another person, how you treat another person, how you respond
Speaker 4: to situations, like all of those things. You have to
Speaker 4: be like self aware enough to know that you did
Speaker 4: something that you probably shouldn't have done. And that's a
Speaker 4: big problem these days is that there's a lot of
Speaker 4: people that don't realize when they did something they shouldn't
Speaker 4: have done.
Speaker 3: And you also it's like maybe even you find a
Speaker 3: few people out there who are willing to admit they
Speaker 3: did something wrong, but are they then willing to pay
Speaker 3: the fiddler? I mean, because you can still be like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 3: that was my bad. Sorry, But are you ready to
Speaker 3: reap what you sew? I don't think so. I think
Speaker 3: that's also it's you know, for him to say yep,
Speaker 3: throw me over and to have the faith that God
Speaker 3: would spare him. That's faith right there. That's crazy because
Speaker 3: even I if it happened to me tomorrow, I would
Speaker 3: at least ask life after something. Well, and that think
Speaker 3: about that, that's hard. That's hard.
Speaker 4: Think about how much like water is mentioned in the
Speaker 4: Bible and and you know, like uh Noah, you know,
Speaker 4: and and the you know, the flooding of the earth
Speaker 4: and all of that stuff and wiping out all of that.
Speaker 4: And so then you've got Moses parting the Red Sea.
Speaker 4: And why is that Because we don't want you to
Speaker 4: have to go through the deep waters, right, We want
Speaker 4: to keep you at the waters above instead of all
Speaker 4: of you perishing at the waters below, because that's where,
Speaker 4: like I said, the turmoil and the chaos and all
Speaker 4: of a sudden settles beneath. And so that's why they
Speaker 4: parted the sea. And it's literally all throughout the Bible
Speaker 4: like questioning, you know, are you really Jesus? Do I
Speaker 4: really see you? I don't know, get out of the
Speaker 4: boat and you know, trust me and you can walk
Speaker 4: on water. He's like, oh yeah, and what did he do?
Speaker 4: He started to sink because he lost his faith in God.
Speaker 4: He lost his belief and all of that stuff.
Speaker 3: So yeah, anyways, which one was it that was trying
Speaker 3: to walk to him? Who was it?
Speaker 4: As Peter wasn't Peter.
Speaker 3: Yeah, see, I'm like Peter, you know, I want to believe,
Speaker 3: and I think I'm ready, but then I get halfway
Speaker 3: there and I start to sink. I mean, it just happens.
Speaker 3: It happens to them.
Speaker 4: But you're You're not the only person, because every single
Speaker 4: apostle and person in the Bible was a doubter y yeah,
Speaker 4: doubting Thomas, every single one of the apostles. You know,
Speaker 4: you had people even after they saw like his resurrection
Speaker 4: that were like, I don't really believe that. Can I
Speaker 4: come and stick my hand in your side because I
Speaker 4: don't believe it's you?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, So every.
Speaker 4: Everybody in the Bible, because we're human and because we
Speaker 4: are prone to sin and disbelief and whatever, so never
Speaker 4: beat yourself up for not believing wholeheartedly all the time,
Speaker 4: because it's hard for humans to do that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think those stories are really impactful because it
Speaker 3: just shows how how human we are, and like, how
Speaker 3: how even sitting next to Jesus out of campfire, they
Speaker 3: were still they were like, I don't know, they're literally
Speaker 3: right next to the guy, literally to next right next
Speaker 3: to our savior. And they're like, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3: It's just that's that's that's human nature. It's crazy.
Speaker 4: It's crazy, that's us to doubt. Yeah, okay, it's tam.
Speaker 1: I'm right, I'm right, I'm right. I have chapter three,
Speaker 1: and I liked your version, Janet. That was really I
Speaker 1: like the way that one flowed. Mine's a little more younger.
Speaker 5: This up.
Speaker 1: And the word of the Lord came unto Jonah the
Speaker 1: second time, saying, arise, go unto Ninevah, the great city,
Speaker 1: and preach unto it the preaching that I bid thee.
Speaker 1: So Jonah arose and went onto Ninevah. According to the
Speaker 1: word of the Lord. Now Nineveh was an exceedingly great
Speaker 1: city of three days journey, and Jonah to enter. Here
Speaker 1: you go. That's interesting. And Jonah began to enter into
Speaker 1: the city a day's journey, and he cried and said, oh,
Speaker 1: and this is the preaching. He said, Yet forty days
Speaker 1: and Ninevah shall be overthrown. So the people of Ninama
Speaker 1: believed God and proclaimed a fast and put on sackcloth,
Speaker 1: from the greatest of them, even to the least of them.
Speaker 1: For word came unto the King of Nineveh, and he
Speaker 1: arose from his throne. He laid his robe from him
Speaker 1: and covered him with sackcloth, and sat in ashes. And
Speaker 1: he caused it to be proclaimed and published through Nineveh,
Speaker 1: by the decree of the king and his nobles, saying,
Speaker 1: let neither man nor beast heard, nor flock taste anything.
Speaker 1: Let them not feed nor drink water. But let man
Speaker 1: and beast be covered with sackcloth and cry mightily unto God. Yea,
Speaker 1: let them turn everyone from his evil way and from
Speaker 1: the violence that is in their hands. Who can tell
Speaker 1: if God will turn and repent and turn away from
Speaker 1: his fierce anger, that we perish not. And God saw
Speaker 1: their works, that they turned from their evil ways, and
Speaker 1: God repented of the evil. And God repented of the
Speaker 1: evil that they, And God repented of the evil that
Speaker 1: he had said that he would do unto them, and
Speaker 1: he did it. Not Okay, so he did not. The
Speaker 1: biggest thing for me was they were pagans again in
Speaker 1: the in the in the boat they were it was
Speaker 1: a pagan to and they still knew that something was wrong.
Speaker 1: They they somehow had a sense of God's power. Same
Speaker 1: thing here, this entire what they say, one hundred and
Speaker 1: twenty thousand people in this in the city, and all
Speaker 1: of them, even to the animals, even to the children,
Speaker 1: the adults, the royalty or whatever they call them, nobility,
Speaker 1: and all of them said, just in case, we are
Speaker 1: not taking any chances. We are going to play by
Speaker 1: the rules that we've got forty days. And they all
Speaker 1: did it. And I think, I think that says a
Speaker 1: lot that even oh my gosh, even the people who
Speaker 1: are unbelieved, non believe where they said no atheist in
Speaker 1: the foxhole at some point, and they even for them,
Speaker 1: I was just I mean, even the nobility to be
Speaker 1: saying saying, all of us, every single one of us,
Speaker 1: every single and I have one more thought. Oh and
Speaker 1: then the word of his short sermon, so so Tona
Speaker 1: gave the tiniest little warning he possibly could eight words,
Speaker 1: and the last one, the last word of his shortlestone
Speaker 1: was overturned, which means a turnover, which also can be
Speaker 1: or overthrown, and it can also mean to to change
Speaker 1: to its opposite, to start over, a rebirth, a rebod,
Speaker 1: like you were saying, Janet. And so they took it
Speaker 1: as an opportunity to better themselves to the entire place.
Speaker 1: So I think maybe with Gomorah, you know, with that
Speaker 1: in the in the back of their mind. So I
Speaker 1: thought it was I love this. I've gotten so much
Speaker 1: more out of this. I know you were excited about too.
Speaker 1: When I read through it, I really wanted chapter three
Speaker 1: because this one, I thought, for the entire higher the collective,
Speaker 1: not in a bad way, because right now everyone's so
Speaker 1: spread out and crazy with all the different conspiracy theories
Speaker 1: or not or left wing. Oh is it left wing.
Speaker 1: I'm not left wing. I'm not right wing. I'm knowing
Speaker 1: k and ow, I'm knowing, not left wing.
Speaker 4: I love that.
Speaker 1: So instead of everyone being so divided, this brought everyone together.
Speaker 1: It got everyone on the same page. And I think,
Speaker 1: not that we're close, but I think the resistance, like
Speaker 1: like Julia you were saying about flatter Earth, and that
Speaker 1: I've had against you know, flatter Earth and the resistance
Speaker 1: and stuff, but you can show them now you can
Speaker 1: actually you know, look, look like you can read it
Speaker 1: for yourself now that it's it's it's hopefully with this awakening.
Speaker 1: And again, like Heidi, I keep going back to when
Speaker 1: you were saying it's speeding up. It seems like more
Speaker 1: information we're being inundated and there are so many more
Speaker 1: people I don't even mean jumping on board, but getting it.
Speaker 1: How do you say that there are more people waking
Speaker 1: up and more people understanding and Janet, you doing this,
Speaker 1: you coming up with this idea. Yeah, is brilliant. I'm
Speaker 1: so excited. I keep thinking I was the biggest fan
Speaker 1: of you guys when you were doing this with Troubles
Speaker 1: and the first Ladies thing and everything. I was just
Speaker 1: sitting back, I was watching and I'm thinking, this is
Speaker 1: how I think what you guys are saying is so
Speaker 1: honest and so real, and you brought me in so
Speaker 1: I just you got me second, just as a fans,
Speaker 1: as an audience member of it.
Speaker 3: Tam you're literally the sweetest I was telling you that
Speaker 3: you're the sweetest little angel woman ever and she sent me,
Speaker 3: you know, a short clip. But when you went on
Speaker 3: Cult to Conspiracy, that's awesome. By the way, I'm so
Speaker 3: proud of you for getting on there. That's I like
Speaker 3: that episode. But yeah, you're you're you're one of us,
Speaker 3: you know, Tam. I mean I think a lot of
Speaker 3: people were, you know, trying to band together with similar
Speaker 3: beliefs and supporting of each other. And I always say,
Speaker 3: I don't think very highly of myself or anything like that,
Speaker 3: So don't even say fame and to me, because I
Speaker 3: feel like we're all sisters in this.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're related.
Speaker 1: That there were more women who thought this way because
Speaker 1: you got sorry, you go to the groceries or you
Speaker 1: go wherever. These people are just it's so hard to
Speaker 1: connect on any level, but to have women not only
Speaker 1: it's not just flat ears, because I mean that was
Speaker 1: my first thing, but then now I've expanded into so
Speaker 1: called the conspiracy. Wow are they covering so much? And
Speaker 1: then your segment on that, and then ID you're in
Speaker 1: a completely different and Janet, Oh, what you've exposed from
Speaker 1: first for yourself but then from other people, and then
Speaker 1: with Troubles and then his paranoid radio and then your
Speaker 1: yes the origins, but also your medical and then he
Speaker 1: to your medical and I mean what you all are
Speaker 1: sharing is a wealth of information and that there are strong,
Speaker 1: independent women, intelligent the women who are sharing real life,
Speaker 1: I mean, what you've experienced and then how how it impacts.
Speaker 1: So I mean, I mean probably hundreds of thousands of people.
Speaker 1: I mean, I just I was one little person and
Speaker 1: watching that that that first roundtable that you guys did,
Speaker 1: and I was just floored. I'm like, this is so
Speaker 1: amazing that you guys. Are you guys exist? You're real?
Speaker 4: Pinch me, I'm real.
Speaker 6: No.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well it's also great too because some of the stuff
Speaker 3: that you know, even reading the Book of Jonah, some
Speaker 3: of the stuff that I'd like to say, I mean,
Speaker 3: I feel like I'd get kicked out of church if
Speaker 3: I said to half of the stuff I wanted to
Speaker 3: really say about it, you know. So I do think
Speaker 3: this is very important because as crazier as outlandish as
Speaker 3: it sounds for Jonah to get swallowed up by a
Speaker 3: portal in the sea and taken to Hell for three days,
Speaker 3: but it makes sense maybe to you guys, because we
Speaker 3: understand that there could be multiple layers of reality happening
Speaker 3: all at once. And so even this chapter three, what
Speaker 3: you were talking about, I have to ask, even maybe
Speaker 3: for people who aren't familiar with this story, you said
Speaker 3: like they were pagan and so these things that they
Speaker 3: were doing, Like my Bible, my version of it says
Speaker 3: they put like burlap sacks on their head and they
Speaker 3: were sitting like these are their practices, right, Like, am
Speaker 3: I confused about that?
Speaker 1: Or no, no, no, I think it was taking off
Speaker 1: the throne, off the royal garb, off the jewelry, off
Speaker 1: off the right anything it was fancy, and they went
Speaker 1: down to the basics. They got rid of anything that
Speaker 1: was fancy or special or made them feel different or important.
Speaker 1: They got rid of all of that and went to
Speaker 1: the base level. And also they were horrible from reading
Speaker 1: all the different stories, I mean really disgusting, awful again
Speaker 1: correlating to what we're hearing about all of this awful
Speaker 1: stuff that's been going on recently now, I mean not
Speaker 1: thousands of years ago.
Speaker 4: Now, this is awful.
Speaker 1: And they were I mean the impaling, really impaling, nasty,
Speaker 1: gross awful, disgusting, gross awful, horrible things. And so that's
Speaker 1: another reason that Jonah was so against us thinking, these
Speaker 1: guys they should pay for what they've done. They are
Speaker 1: they're just there. It's not fair for them to get
Speaker 1: my little brother. Oh my gosh, he made my parents laugh.
Speaker 1: So he was supposed to be in trouble. He was
Speaker 1: supposed to be punished and restricted or whatever. He made
Speaker 1: my parents laugh, and then he got away with not
Speaker 1: getting in trouble. And I'm like, it's not fair. If
Speaker 1: I had done anything like he had done, I would
Speaker 1: have been in so much trouble. And you know, he
Speaker 1: didn't get anything, you know, and then they laughed, and
Speaker 1: so he got away with this. So I can understand
Speaker 1: Jonah's side, going, I don't want to help them, because
Speaker 1: then God's if he doesn't, all of his wrath and
Speaker 1: anger and lightning bolts and fire and brims are everything.
Speaker 1: He should put everything on him and forgot to say no.
Speaker 1: But if they repent and return, which is huge, So
Speaker 1: if you do, it's a forgiving, loving God. So you've
Speaker 1: got you know, this is a hard concept because nine
Speaker 1: of that they did listen and they were good, and
Speaker 1: they did get the benefit of that, and then don't
Speaker 1: on the other side, going, but this isn't fair.
Speaker 4: But you know, that that leads back to no one
Speaker 4: is above being saved. So no matter what you've done,
Speaker 4: no matter what you have, how you have said, as
Speaker 4: long as you repent your sin and accept God, you're
Speaker 4: never too far gone to have that. And so I
Speaker 4: love this part of the story because it reminds me
Speaker 4: of how materialistic things tend to corrupt us and tend
Speaker 4: to tend to lead us on a path away from
Speaker 4: God and more more into worldly things. And so even
Speaker 4: for the king of this story to you know, take
Speaker 4: off his fancy robes and garbs and stuff, which hello,
Speaker 4: jewelry makeup. All of that stuff was from the Nephilum,
Speaker 4: teaching all of our people that and that's where all
Speaker 4: of this you know stuff came in. And of course
Speaker 4: the debauchery and all of that kind of stuff. But
Speaker 4: it's like going back to the basics and shedding everything
Speaker 4: that was worldly or expensive, and instead of a throne,
Speaker 4: he sat on ashes. Yeah, that is such a powerful
Speaker 4: statement because it's like I'm going to be reduced to ashes.
Speaker 4: God's through God's destruction, you know, And it's like he's
Speaker 4: humbling himself to go back to basics, back to the beginning,
Speaker 4: and what could be sitting on what could be of
Speaker 4: the city and the people in it if they didn't.
Speaker 3: I know, I have another question for you guys, because
Speaker 3: this part stuck out to me because it says Ninevah
Speaker 3: was a city so large that it took three days
Speaker 3: to see it all. And on the day Jonah entered
Speaker 3: the city, he shouted to the crowds, forty days from now,
Speaker 3: Ninavah will be destroyed. The people of Ninevah believed God's message,
Speaker 3: and then they started doing the taking their garb off
Speaker 3: and their jewelry and everything in the fast. But it's
Speaker 3: almost like it it makes me wonder if there wasn't
Speaker 3: something that they saw when Jonah arrived that would make
Speaker 3: them respect him enough to believe him at all, because
Speaker 3: you know, you have to wonder, what was it about
Speaker 3: Jonah showing up and being like, oh, just to let
Speaker 3: you know, in forty days, you guys are all gonna die, Like,
Speaker 3: what was it about him specifically that they would have
Speaker 3: even respect? You believe him?
Speaker 4: Go ahead?
Speaker 1: He was he was a Hebrew. So on the one hand,
Speaker 1: the Israelites decimated their own profits. So first of all,
Speaker 1: he's not you know, he's not even prophesying there he
Speaker 1: went over to Nineveh. But then also he's the enemy again,
Speaker 1: So for him to say that and then to believe it.
Speaker 1: I keep thinking about like the hundredth monkey syndrome or
Speaker 1: something like where not not really pure pressure, but when
Speaker 1: enough people really get it. So by the king, by
Speaker 1: following the king, for him making this, I don't even know.
Speaker 1: I guess it would be a huge sacrifice for their
Speaker 1: mentality at the time. But to disrub all the fancy
Speaker 1: stuff and to sit like Jene was saying this in
Speaker 1: sit in the ashes representing what would have been. But
Speaker 1: there's a wave of that. They all did it. So
Speaker 1: I keep thinking like, is this what we're coming too soon?
Speaker 1: That maybe a little bit, little, little little bit as
Speaker 1: as big a bigger representatives in the I don't know,
Speaker 1: like cultical conspiracy, these guys as more Janet and Troubles
Speaker 1: and all these people, as they start sharing more of this,
Speaker 1: will there be a mass consciousness to get it, because
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't, I don't as rebellious as they
Speaker 1: were for them to all go oh yeah, yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: like you're saying, Julia, there must have been something else
Speaker 1: for them.
Speaker 4: Just to go there had to be you know, what
Speaker 4: I think it is though, because Jonah went through his
Speaker 4: repentance and through his rebirth process, and when you are
Speaker 4: a true follower in Christ and you've been reborn through
Speaker 4: baptism or belief, because not everybody believes in baptism, but
Speaker 4: when you carry the Holy Spirit in your heart, it
Speaker 4: radiates off you. People can see that, and people can
Speaker 4: feel that, and the way that you carry yourself, they
Speaker 4: can feel like your love and stuff like that coming
Speaker 4: off of you. And so I think that's why the
Speaker 4: people of Nineveh were like, oh, well, if he's telling
Speaker 4: us that we're going to be destroyed, I believe it
Speaker 4: because I can see it in his soul.
Speaker 3: And imagine what that must have looked like, because let me,
Speaker 3: you have this guy running through your town saying, you know,
Speaker 3: let's just say San Francisco is going to be destroyed
Speaker 3: in forty days. You just have this random guy running
Speaker 3: through the streets saying this. Obviously, like the higher ups
Speaker 3: aren't gonna be in the crowd when they are when
Speaker 3: he's running through there. So it gets up to the
Speaker 3: king somehow, gets all the way from somebody in the crowd,
Speaker 3: up up up up the chain of command, all the
Speaker 3: way to the king. He doesn't even speak with Jonah directly,
Speaker 3: and he's like, all right, I guess we're getting destroyed
Speaker 3: in forty days. Let me d robe. I mean, this guy,
Speaker 3: there must have been such a power coming from Jonah
Speaker 3: that it was uh holy and earth shattering. I guess
Speaker 3: you would if you spent three days in hell and
Speaker 3: got swallowed by a fish.
Speaker 4: Which is a It's a beautiful thing though, to be
Speaker 4: able to like carry God in your heart and to
Speaker 4: radiate that to other people because other people can sense
Speaker 4: that and feel that, and it is like very very
Speaker 4: powerful to people that are in your circle, I guess.
Speaker 1: And it makes it just that. Yeah, it wasn't just
Speaker 1: the fancies that it was fasting no food or water.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's an extreme and they all did it.
Speaker 4: So they all did it, which is the think about
Speaker 4: that too, because in the in the paganistic society, it
Speaker 4: was all like you know, slaughtering things and eating things
Speaker 4: that you shouldn't and you know, all of that stuff.
Speaker 4: And so going back throughout the Bible with the fasting
Speaker 4: and you know, and God will provide the necessary provisions
Speaker 4: again the fish things that he sees fit. And so
Speaker 4: people were fasting. People were starving in the in the
Speaker 4: desert when they were wandering, and God provided birds for
Speaker 4: them to eat, you know what I'm saying. And so
Speaker 4: it's like even doing doing the fasting, it's cleansing their body,
Speaker 4: cleansing their mind, clarifying their belief in God per se,
Speaker 4: without all these outside influences of you know, wine and
Speaker 4: you know, all of that stuff.
Speaker 3: I have maybe a theory that just hit me too.
Speaker 3: But since we're going on like the same line as
Speaker 3: as Jonah knowing he did something wrong and feeling guilty
Speaker 3: and letting them throw him overboard, maybe this city of Nineveh,
Speaker 3: we're all feeling kind of guilty and knowing that what
Speaker 3: they were. You know, let's not assume that they were
Speaker 3: just enjoying all of the debauchery, because according to Tam
Speaker 3: it was awful, Okay, So maybe they did feel guilty
Speaker 3: and knew that things were coming to a boiling point.
Speaker 3: And then Jonah showed up with this radical power coming
Speaker 3: off of him and he's like, yeah, you guys are
Speaker 3: all about to die. And they kind of were like
Speaker 3: we figured since we're terrible people, But I mean, who knows,
Speaker 3: And maybe the people of Ninevah had heard about the
Speaker 3: Hebrew God from other stories, other things that had happened,
Speaker 3: and maybe they were already kind of scared, but it
Speaker 3: takes something like this to really shock you into reality. Like, Okay,
Speaker 3: I guess since we're all gonna die, let's just let's
Speaker 3: just see if he's right.
Speaker 5: Go for me.
Speaker 4: You know, even in modern day and I know this
Speaker 4: is true in my life. If people know that you're
Speaker 4: godly and they can feel that you're godly, they do
Speaker 4: feel guilt and remorse when they do something wrong. And
Speaker 4: then most of the time they distance themselves from you
Speaker 4: because they're fearing feeling guilty, and that happens like repeatedly
Speaker 4: with people, and then later on down the road they'll
Speaker 4: be like, sorry, I didn't talk to you for a while,
Speaker 4: but I knew I was wrong and I knew I
Speaker 4: did something wrong. So I think you're onto something with
Speaker 4: the people of Ninevah knowing that they were guilty, and
Speaker 4: they were in the presence of Jonah, who was godly.
Speaker 4: Now after his three day trip to Hades.
Speaker 3: Maybe they felt the hell fire coming off of him
Speaker 3: and they were like, well, we know where we're headed.
Speaker 3: If we don't get our lives, right, I mean who knows, and.
Speaker 4: Not paradise and hades. They were going to the opposite side.
Speaker 3: Of hate, right right. Yeah, maybe Jonah was like, hey,
Speaker 3: you want me to tell you a little story where
Speaker 3: I've just been the last three days.
Speaker 5: I hope his clothes were smoking, so they were like.
Speaker 4: Oh, dang, you're so hot Jonah.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, So you remember this story when when Moses
Speaker 3: came down off the mountain after he had gotten the
Speaker 3: Ten Commandments and his face was glowing so hard they
Speaker 3: had to put a veil over him. I mean think
Speaker 3: Jonah might have had some aluminescence going on something something
Speaker 3: to where all he had to do is run through
Speaker 3: a crowd and people were scared and they've built judgment
Speaker 3: coming and they were terrified, terrified enough to de robe
Speaker 3: the king. So I mean there was something, something had
Speaker 3: to be so powerful coming off with that guy, and
Speaker 3: maybe that's why God was so mad because it had
Speaker 3: to be Jonah. That's another thing people don't understand is
Speaker 3: when it's supposed to be you, it's supposed to be you, exactason,
Speaker 3: and God was getting mad because he's he knew it was.
Speaker 3: It had to be Jonah for this to work great.
Speaker 4: And that's perfect because he did the same thing with Moses.
Speaker 4: And he's like, you're my chosen person. I want you
Speaker 4: to go. I want you to lead these people. I
Speaker 4: want you to speak. And he's like, that's like not
Speaker 4: my thing, Like I'm not good at speaking, Like I
Speaker 4: don't want to do that. So think again to modern day,
Speaker 4: like how many people is God trying to lead to
Speaker 4: use their voice? And they're like, oh no, I know.
Speaker 4: I was one of those people. I'm like, oh no,
Speaker 4: Like I don't want to. I don't like speaking in
Speaker 4: front of people. Nobody's going to want to hear me, Like,
Speaker 4: I'm not going to do that. But He has a
Speaker 4: purpose for you. If he calls you to do that,
Speaker 4: even though you are uncomfortable and you don't like it,
Speaker 4: if you have enough faith and trust in God, he's
Speaker 4: gonna lead you through that whole process whatever.
Speaker 3: Or you'll go through some serious trials and tribulation.
Speaker 4: Still, yeah, exactly, and you're gonna go to the hades
Speaker 4: and the wads and stuff around him.
Speaker 3: He's gonna make you wish you never you know, disobeyed
Speaker 3: in your life.
Speaker 1: I agree with one last thing Janet for this section
Speaker 1: and it was when you're talking about this symbolism of
Speaker 1: the number three, the symbol of the number forty, because
Speaker 1: they said in forty days it will be. And so
Speaker 1: obviously with uh Noah forty days, forty nights, the Moses
Speaker 1: forty days on my sign, I like, I like Julie
Speaker 1: was saying the forty days of fasting the wilderness just
Speaker 1: before he started preaching. So that was another thing with
Speaker 1: the symbolism of the numbers.
Speaker 4: And that's that's a repetitive pattern all throughout the Bible too.
Speaker 4: It mentions different numbers on different timelines, whether you're in
Speaker 4: the Old Testament or the New Testament, and everything from
Speaker 4: the Old Testament still relates to the New Testament and
Speaker 4: vice versa. And it's taken me a while to like
Speaker 4: figure that out. Yeah, me too, Okay, so let's hear it.
Speaker 4: Deep voice, all right, squeaky.
Speaker 5: Deep voice coming in.
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 6: I got the fourth one. But to Jonah, this seemed
Speaker 6: very wrong, and he became angry. He prayed to the Lord.
Speaker 6: Isn't this what I said, Lord? When I was still home?
Speaker 6: That is what I tried to forestall by fleeing to Tarshish.
Speaker 6: I knew that you were gracious and compassionate, God, slow
Speaker 6: to anger and abounding in love, a God who relents
Speaker 6: from sending calamity. Now, Lord, take away my life, for
Speaker 6: it is better for me to die than live. But
Speaker 6: the Lord replied, is it right for you to be angry?
Speaker 6: Jonah had gone out and sat down at a piece
Speaker 6: of the east, or at a place in the east
Speaker 6: of the city. There he made himself a shelter, sat
Speaker 6: in its shade, and waited to see what would happen
Speaker 6: to the city. Then the Lord God provided a leafy
Speaker 6: plant and made it grow over Jonah to give shade
Speaker 6: for his head to ease his discomfort. And Jonah was
Speaker 6: very happy about the plant. But at dawn the next day,
Speaker 6: God provided a worm which chewed the plant so that
Speaker 6: it withered. When the sun rose, God provided a scorching
Speaker 6: east wind, and the sun blazed on Jonah's head so
Speaker 6: that he grew faint. He wanted to die and said,
Speaker 6: it had better for me to die than to live.
Speaker 6: But God said to Jonah, is it right for you
Speaker 6: to be angry about the plant? It is, he said,
Speaker 6: and I'm so angry I wish I were dead. How
Speaker 6: many times wol we said that right, But the Laurie said,
Speaker 6: you have been concerned about this plant, though you did
Speaker 6: not tend it or make it grow, it sprang up
Speaker 6: overnight and died overnight. And should I have concern for
Speaker 6: the great city of Nineveh, in which there are more
Speaker 6: than one hundred and twenty thousand people who cannot tell
Speaker 6: their right hand from their left, and also many animals.
Speaker 5: Question mark.
Speaker 3: So I was.
Speaker 6: I thought it was funny that I got this one
Speaker 6: because I am quick to anger. That's a good Bible
Speaker 6: verse phrase, right, quick to.
Speaker 5: Anger, and I get in trouble for all the time.
Speaker 6: But I am a very black and white person normally,
Speaker 6: Like I mean, obviously there's been changes in my life.
Speaker 6: But if you asked me before, like the last couple
Speaker 6: of years, like right and wrong, I would feel exactly
Speaker 6: how Jonah felt, because I had done all the things
Speaker 6: like yeah, you're stupid. Why the hell should I care
Speaker 6: about what you're doing? Like you're so dumb you did
Speaker 6: this thing, Like I'm toeing the road over here. I'm
Speaker 6: trying to do the right things and do all the
Speaker 6: things I'm supposed to do, and you just get a
Speaker 6: show up today and say you're sorry, and now it's
Speaker 6: all good in the hood, like oh cool, you know,
Speaker 6: like and then you know, bad things have happened to me,
Speaker 6: even like though I a lot of times, I mean
Speaker 6: not saying I'm innocent always, but a lot of times
Speaker 6: I don't think the punishment is worth what happened. And
Speaker 6: so I was always pretty confused about it because I'm like, like,
Speaker 6: I do all the rules, Like what the heck, you know,
Speaker 6: Like I hear.
Speaker 5: People, oh I got out of that ticket. I don't
Speaker 5: know that I've ever got out of a ticket. Like
Speaker 5: I just mind the.
Speaker 4: Rules as I'm like I said, you had no kidding.
Speaker 5: Oh not too many, because I mind so many.
Speaker 4: You're in a book now, Oh boy.
Speaker 5: See in mine, I just I never was.
Speaker 6: I mean, I think I've maybe had like two in
Speaker 6: my whole life because I just mind the rules because
Speaker 6: I'm like, you're not going to get out of it.
Speaker 5: And I've told like my son and my stepdaughter are
Speaker 5: like this.
Speaker 6: Not all of my kids or some have the gift
Speaker 6: of I don't know, charisma or whatever, but I'm a
Speaker 6: very blunt person and that doesn't help in life with
Speaker 6: telling people anything. So I can understand Jonah's plight because
Speaker 6: if this came to me, I'd be like, no, hell no,
Speaker 6: they're not going to listen to me. They never listen
Speaker 6: to me. Nobody listens to me. Why the hell would
Speaker 6: I waste my air? I got a squeaky voice. Why
Speaker 6: would I waste my voice? And I get that though,
Speaker 6: because like I've I've been that non compassionate person before
Speaker 6: where I'm like, they're stupid.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and you can't, you know.
Speaker 6: I think as I evolved later in my life and
Speaker 6: got away from a very strict, you know, Mormon upbringing,
Speaker 6: where you know, you just don't do that, you don't
Speaker 6: do this, you don't do I mean, there's so many
Speaker 6: rules you really don't mess up if you just do
Speaker 6: the rules. So because they've got a rule for everything,
Speaker 6: and if you really have your own way, like is
Speaker 6: compassion with it right now?
Speaker 5: Not too much? Not too much?
Speaker 6: Like you don't always have the understanding for like a
Speaker 6: drug addict that's homeless in the streets, or like a
Speaker 6: kid that's been through hell and back or whatever. And
Speaker 6: now it's totally different for me because like that's who
Speaker 6: I work with, like that, I work at mental health
Speaker 6: now I work with drug addicts that are coming up.
Speaker 5: I feel like completely literally not worthy.
Speaker 4: All for sure, you're coming in and out.
Speaker 1: It's hard in it what she's saying, because I've done
Speaker 1: almost the opposite. When we go to to like the
Speaker 1: grocery store and they say do you want to round
Speaker 1: up or do you want to give this to Saint
Speaker 1: Dude or do you want to give this to the
Speaker 1: And now it's like no, because I know where it's going.
Speaker 1: It's not good. It's not good. It's not good. I've
Speaker 1: done like kind of the opposite by understanding that, by
Speaker 1: realizing everything that we're told. It's like you think you're
Speaker 1: being capacity, you think you're being loving and kind, but
Speaker 1: that money is either going back to that it's nice.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with you. I never give to charities
Speaker 3: anymore because I don't know what they're doing with my money,
Speaker 3: and like what if your money goes to some nefarious
Speaker 3: thing that's like freting kids? Like if, no, thank you.
Speaker 3: I don't want to have a part of that. Unfortunately,
Speaker 3: Heidi cout, but she was really getting somewhere.
Speaker 4: I couldn't I couldn't hear because it was like roboting
Speaker 4: and stopping.
Speaker 3: So yeah, she she was getting to a good point
Speaker 3: there and then it's like we lost the connection, but
Speaker 3: just kind of picking up on where she left off.
Speaker 3: I feel like I am this Jonah, this angry Jonah,
Speaker 3: more times than not, actually, And I think this chapter
Speaker 3: four is the exact reason why God is God and
Speaker 3: we are not, because if it were up to me,
Speaker 3: I would be a horrible God. I would be Jonah
Speaker 3: like spiteful. Oh ha ha ha, you fasted and you
Speaker 3: wore a Burt lapsack over your head for forty days.
Speaker 3: I'm still gonna destroy yet, like that would be I mean,
Speaker 3: a very vengeful, very wrathful God. And so that's why
Speaker 3: they say, you know, God's ways are not our ways
Speaker 3: because we cannot understand, we can't even fathom what he's doing.
Speaker 3: And I think that this whole part about Jonah being
Speaker 3: mad at God is because he's sitting there like God,
Speaker 3: you literally threw me in the sea. You literally took
Speaker 3: me to the bottom of the ocean in a whale
Speaker 3: and made me sit in there for three days. You
Speaker 3: literally spit me back out onto the shore, and now
Speaker 3: you're not even gonna You made me run through crowds,
Speaker 3: you made me do all this stuff, and now you're
Speaker 3: not even gonna do you make me look like an ass?
Speaker 6: You know?
Speaker 3: Because he so how many times have you been have
Speaker 3: you sat there and been Jonah and like wow, like
Speaker 3: you make me look bad because now you're not even
Speaker 3: following up. You're into the bargain. I had to go
Speaker 3: to hell for three days, I got swolled by a fish,
Speaker 3: and now you're not even gonna do it. It's like,
Speaker 3: that's so crazy. But what Jonah is not paying attention
Speaker 3: to is, yeah, yeah, Jonah, you did go through all that.
Speaker 3: That probably really sucked, and I'd never want to do it,
Speaker 3: but you saved one hundred and twenty thousand people and
Speaker 3: the animals and the animals. It says not to mention
Speaker 3: all the animals, one hundred and twenty thousand people. Not
Speaker 3: to mention all the animals. That's what my Bible says.
Speaker 3: But I mean, he's so fixated on getting even that
Speaker 3: he doesn't realize that by what he did, he saved
Speaker 3: one hundred and twenty thousand people by listening to what
Speaker 3: God asked him to do, because I mean.
Speaker 4: They were he was, he was being a fisher of
Speaker 4: men right. He went to preach God's word to them,
Speaker 4: which is exactly why he went to the depths of
Speaker 4: you know, the roots of the mountain and Hades then
Speaker 4: the first place because he said he repented, right, so
Speaker 4: God gave him a chance to do good again. And
Speaker 4: my opinion, I'm the opposite side of the coin. Jonah
Speaker 4: as a whiner because hello, I just saved you from
Speaker 4: this terrible storm. You didn't appreciate it. You're still disobeying me.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 4: The sailors that were on the ship that were pagan,
Speaker 4: they repented and took God as their savor. They humbled themselves.
Speaker 4: Jonah has done nothing to humble himself after after being
Speaker 4: saved my God again and God, like Julia said, you know,
Speaker 4: he went through all these things, He went to Hades,
Speaker 4: he was in a belly of a fish for three days.
Speaker 4: You know, all of these things happened to him, went
Speaker 4: through a storm, went through all this turmoil and chaos,
Speaker 4: supposedly repented. You should be coming out the other side
Speaker 4: as a warrior for God, and you're still whining and complaining.
Speaker 5: Repent, Yeah, you change it.
Speaker 1: Overnight. A tree with leaves that would shade him from
Speaker 1: the sun. And they said, guys that you didn't water it,
Speaker 1: you didn't take care of it. Whatever in the nuts
Speaker 1: when the worm came in.
Speaker 3: And we think about that, Tam. That's that's the next
Speaker 3: layer of this story about how what a whining, complaining
Speaker 3: bitch Jonah is is because it's like, oh, you didn't
Speaker 3: learn from the first time. Oh you really learn from
Speaker 3: the fish.
Speaker 5: Let me try again.
Speaker 3: Let me get you a tree, Jonah.
Speaker 1: Let me there's your.
Speaker 6: Tree, and you can't and it's really born again unless
Speaker 6: you leave your old behind exactly your behavior. You're sorry,
Speaker 6: and then do it again and almost pre planet in
Speaker 6: your mind, like I'm going to still be this haughty
Speaker 6: little shit and like no, no, no, And that is
Speaker 6: why so many people nowadays, and I feel even the
Speaker 6: situation I'm in with my kid, she's like, oh, well sorry,
Speaker 6: I forgive you, but like you're a piece of shit,
Speaker 6: like go away.
Speaker 4: That's that's not true forgiveness. That is that is mouthing
Speaker 4: forgiveness without the meaning behind it. And that's why like
Speaker 4: this part of the story like irritates me to no
Speaker 4: end and it makes me mad because you went through
Speaker 4: all that turmoil and stuff. God say, you gave you
Speaker 4: a chance to repent, you repented, and then it's like
Speaker 4: he got worse and he's whining over a weed or
Speaker 4: a plant that God provided because God provides for us,
Speaker 4: right according to the whole entire Bible, and thinking back
Speaker 4: about the fish and how God has divine provisions for us, right,
Speaker 4: So God divinely provided this plant for you to give
Speaker 4: you shade and comfort. And then he was like, you
Speaker 4: know what, Jonah is whining? So here, I'm going to
Speaker 4: blow up this really hot, awful wind that's gonna come
Speaker 4: and it's going to be scorching, and I'm going to
Speaker 4: make the worm meat the plant, and the plant's going
Speaker 4: to die and maybe he'll get it then and change
Speaker 4: his behavior. And he still doesn't. And he's like, this
Speaker 4: exactly why I didn't want to come here. I want
Speaker 4: to do what you said.
Speaker 5: You you want to die.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's making me look bad.
Speaker 3: It's making you look bad.
Speaker 4: Right, So you have no compassion or care for one
Speaker 4: hundred and twenty thousand people plus their animals. All you
Speaker 4: care about is yourself. You are so selfish and egotistical.
Speaker 3: I don't say, after chance, I.
Speaker 5: Don't want to have so much that. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 5: want to say the person.
Speaker 6: But this happened to me yesterday and there was a
Speaker 6: really bad situation for a friend of my son's and
Speaker 6: it isn't the closest person to us, but we do
Speaker 6: know them and felt very bad, and so I want
Speaker 6: to start a pro chain. So I call a couple
Speaker 6: of people and one of the people has a very
Speaker 6: negative nancy in their life. And this negative nancy in
Speaker 6: the background is like, who cares? Totally not our problem, right,
Speaker 6: Like it's what I'm like, this is a kid. This
Speaker 6: isn't a grown up.
Speaker 4: This is a kid.
Speaker 6: And I'm just like, you're supposed to be a Christian,
Speaker 6: Like if I call you for something, And all they
Speaker 6: wanted to argue was like the specifics of what exactly
Speaker 6: happened and how exactly and how much and I must
Speaker 6: have got this number wrong and this and this, and
Speaker 6: I'm like.
Speaker 5: I don't even get I don't care. That's so stupid.
Speaker 4: I don't care.
Speaker 6: I'm not going to google it or like shame this person.
Speaker 6: More like we're supposed to help Christians and I'm calling
Speaker 6: you out as a Christian.
Speaker 5: That's not very Christian.
Speaker 6: You can go outside every day on your lawn because
Speaker 6: you need to pray on the earth.
Speaker 5: And like fully laid down and do that for God, but.
Speaker 6: You can't do a prayer for somebody else because it's
Speaker 6: too inconvenient for you.
Speaker 5: That that is not true.
Speaker 3: You know, that's not I feel like that's that's true
Speaker 3: because it's kind of I was gonna say this, but
Speaker 3: it goes along to that point about this whole chapter
Speaker 3: four is we focus on the wrong things times, like
Speaker 3: he's he's focusing on the wrong part of the lesson
Speaker 3: because you know, even after he gives him the trees, like, oh,
Speaker 3: thanks for the tree, jerk off, and he's still made.
Speaker 6: Help.
Speaker 3: Yeah, even though Joan is over there literally pouting, literally
Speaker 3: pouting and saying he wishes he was dead. I'm never
Speaker 3: gonna eat again, God, how about that? And God gives
Speaker 3: him a tree and he's like, thanks for the tree,
Speaker 3: jerk off. And then he's still mad. So God takes
Speaker 3: the tree away. He's still mad. If you if you
Speaker 3: were ever gonna tempt one of the gods older New Testament,
Speaker 3: never try it on the Old Testament. You will literally
Speaker 3: scorch your head with a blazing wind from the east
Speaker 3: that will literally burn your hairs off. And he's still
Speaker 3: it's focusing on the wrong part. Is like, woe is me?
Speaker 3: I was swallowed by a fish and I did this
Speaker 3: and this and this, and now I don't even have
Speaker 3: a tree and now all this and God's taken away
Speaker 3: from me and he's still focusing on the wrong part.
Speaker 3: And that's why I agree so much with Jana, is
Speaker 3: like it's selfish, it's ego, and he doesn't understand bigger picture.
Speaker 3: And there's literally zero compassion or anything coming from Jonah
Speaker 3: in this moment. And it's like, how many times does
Speaker 3: God have to give you like a step up in
Speaker 3: life before you realize, like he likes you and he
Speaker 3: loves you.
Speaker 4: And he you know, and he's doing things to help you,
Speaker 4: and he's doing things to help you.
Speaker 5: And I do like that. God was like, God giveth,
Speaker 5: and God is gonna take it away.
Speaker 6: Here's the worm.
Speaker 3: Worm eat this big ass tree.
Speaker 5: Like complain about my plant, okay, and the whole.
Speaker 4: Thing about him, Like to me, I see him as
Speaker 4: as not just a whiner, but very over dramatic, like
Speaker 4: almost like a hormonal girl, y right, homonal teenage girl,
Speaker 4: because it's like, oh my god, I just love die.
Speaker 4: I'm just gonna I don't I just want to die.
Speaker 3: I don't like it.
Speaker 4: Oh my God, I don't know how to die. I
Speaker 4: want to die.
Speaker 5: You're not gonna Then every time he gets close to death,
Speaker 5: he's like, no, let me die. Please, don't let me die.
Speaker 3: Don't let me down here, yeah, right right. And the
Speaker 3: thing is, it's like, if you don't kill these one
Speaker 3: hundred and twenty people in these seventeen cows, I'm gonna
Speaker 3: kill myself right that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And that's that's why like this whole this whole
Speaker 4: thing to me just kind of like set me off.
Speaker 4: I'm like, how dare you like everything that that He
Speaker 4: has done to provide for you and guide you and
Speaker 4: give you what you need to be nourished and cared
Speaker 4: for and provided for and cleanse your soul, leave your
Speaker 4: sons under the earth, and you packed a bag and
Speaker 4: brought him with you.
Speaker 3: Well see, let's look at it from a hole though,
Speaker 3: from chapter one through four, because I think that's very
Speaker 3: important now that we're incorporating all four chapters together. Where
Speaker 3: was the Jonah that in the belly of the fit,
Speaker 3: Let's back up, where is the Jonah that said throw
Speaker 3: me overboard, I have faith ill be spared and that
Speaker 3: God will provide for me. That's a cool Jonah. I'm
Speaker 3: down with that Jonah. Where is the Jonah that inside
Speaker 3: the belly of the whale. He was still praying and
Speaker 3: saying thank you because I know that you have saved me,
Speaker 3: and I know that you've provided me away out as
Speaker 3: soon as God didn't do what Jonah wanted. Now, all
Speaker 3: of a sudden, that Jonah is gone and waja version.
Speaker 3: And that's how people act in their regular life.
Speaker 5: It's like.
Speaker 3: Everything is going okay, right, I'll have faith, I'm gonna
Speaker 3: do it right this time. I put all my faith
Speaker 3: in you God. I'm taking, you know, my hands off
Speaker 3: the wheels, I'm giving it over to you. And then
Speaker 3: the second something doesn't go the way we thought it
Speaker 3: was gonna go, after we let go and let God,
Speaker 3: it's you know, screw this. I don't even believe in
Speaker 3: this anymore. You didn't do what I thought you were
Speaker 3: gonna do, so you know, I'd rather die now. I
Speaker 3: want to die.
Speaker 5: Yeah what.
Speaker 4: That's how people are all the time, literally all the time.
Speaker 4: And it's like it's so hard for people to understand
Speaker 4: that when you let go of your hang ups, any
Speaker 4: any ties that bind you, when you let go of
Speaker 4: all of that stuff, God clears out all the weight
Speaker 4: for you. You don't have to do it yourself. He
Speaker 4: makes the path, He makes the way for you, and
Speaker 4: he makes things easy. The reason why good people go
Speaker 4: through turmoil, disease, chaos storms in their life is because
Speaker 4: God knows that there's a part of you that needs
Speaker 4: to be strengthened and needs to be shored up. And
Speaker 4: believe me, he did any of it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean He has.
Speaker 4: Put me through like the old timey wash wringer and
Speaker 4: like crushed me to pieces. And then I came out
Speaker 4: the other side, and I now have this profound like
Speaker 4: thankfulness for anything he puts me through, good or bad,
Speaker 4: because I would not be the person I am today
Speaker 4: without all of that turmoil and chaos and without turning
Speaker 4: my back on God. Now I can tell you I
Speaker 4: was never a Jonah. I was never whiny like that.
Speaker 4: But I mean he he.
Speaker 5: That's why he was in the water. That's why he
Speaker 5: was in the waters.
Speaker 4: See, I'm a I'm a Scorpio. So definitely Jonah is
Speaker 4: not my personality type, right, I'm not. I'm not gonna
Speaker 4: be like I'm gonna I want to die, I want
Speaker 4: to kill myself. I'd be like, no, I want to
Speaker 4: kill everyone else.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, this is when I was.
Speaker 1: Anytime I talk to her or here or listen there,
Speaker 1: I end up laughing. So look at her straight face.
Speaker 1: She's got a safe face. See how funny you.
Speaker 3: I want to kill everybody else? You know, what's even
Speaker 3: about that?
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna hurt myself. I mean, what are you crazy?
Speaker 3: Exactly me either, But I am a fire sign, you know, so,
Speaker 3: I'm I'm rather scored, you know so. But think about
Speaker 3: think about even that part that Janet just said is
Speaker 3: do you really feel like Jonah would have would have
Speaker 3: felt better if God was like, all right, Jonah, you win,
Speaker 3: let me kill all these people. You know, there's gonna
Speaker 3: be women and children and little dogs and cats whatever.
Speaker 3: After he was done decimating that entire city and just
Speaker 3: bones and just corpses every it's like, Jonah, do you
Speaker 3: feel better now? Are you gonna complain about this because
Speaker 3: it hurt your feelings?
Speaker 1: Exactly?
Speaker 4: He's gonna complain because it's too dirty now, Like he
Speaker 4: decimated everything, and now it's like, oh my god, am
Speaker 4: I gonna have to get a brooms?
Speaker 5: Wake that up?
Speaker 3: I just want to die.
Speaker 5: He's probably like, how could you do that? Well, you
Speaker 5: asked me to Well, I didn't really think you were
Speaker 5: gonna do that.
Speaker 3: I didn't think you were gonna do the kids to God.
Speaker 3: And even even if he did, everybody, it's a total cleaner.
Speaker 4: So followed that, even if he did right, and and
Speaker 4: God destroyed destroyed Nineveh and like all the people, all
Speaker 4: the animals were wiped out, and whatever would Jonah have
Speaker 4: learned his lesson?
Speaker 1: Now? No, No, I got to tell you that Pisce
Speaker 1: these things is really funny because this whole time I
Speaker 1: kept relating to Jonah from his I know, Oh, my God,
Speaker 1: And to hold a grudge, I cannot tell you twenty
Speaker 1: years I have not talked to my sister in law.
Speaker 1: I absolutely despise her. She was pis Yes, yeah, that
Speaker 1: was fascinating.
Speaker 3: I knew you were a Jonah's sympathizer.
Speaker 1: There, but I just couldn't understand like that. You know
Speaker 1: that I could. I could empathize with his anger and
Speaker 1: his frustration what these horrible people were doing to others
Speaker 1: or to children or to whatever. That's the way I
Speaker 1: feel about what's going on with all the Epstein stuff
Speaker 1: and all that. And it's like, how is this not
Speaker 1: being exposed? Is this not How was the wrath of
Speaker 1: God not coming down on them? How is the list
Speaker 1: not being It's because they're all on it. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's just so sick. It's such a twisted, nasty circle.
Speaker 1: But yeah, there's a big you know, grudges. That's a
Speaker 1: nice word for it. I don't I don't know how to.
Speaker 4: But she's tried not to get in trouble.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I mean it's But that's the thing too
Speaker 3: about the story, is what I said a minute ago,
Speaker 3: is there's a reason why he's God and we are not,
Speaker 3: because you know that we cannot even fathom what he's
Speaker 3: what his plan is, and what the future holds for
Speaker 3: us and everyone as a collective. Because yeah, he's notorious
Speaker 3: for for taking people out hello, flood story, Sodom and Gomorrah.
Speaker 3: He's not He's not gonna not do it when it's necessary,
Speaker 3: you know. But this particular city saved themselves, all right.
Speaker 3: They saved themselves. They put the work in and they
Speaker 3: saved themselves. They called out to God. He heard them,
Speaker 3: They were remorseful, they repented. Great. That's another part of
Speaker 3: this story that people get so frustrated with is I
Speaker 3: tell people all the time. Let's say, within the last
Speaker 3: five minutes of Ted Bundy's life, he called out to
Speaker 3: Jesus and he said, please forgive me. I'm you know,
Speaker 3: repent of everything that I did, and I accept Jesus
Speaker 3: into my heart as my savior. That same Ted Bundy
Speaker 3: that murdered all those women up and down the coast
Speaker 3: will still get into heaven, just like the lady who
Speaker 3: went to church every Sunday and ran all the organizations
Speaker 3: and did all the you know pots Wednesdays. And yes,
Speaker 3: they both get in. And why it's so frustrating to
Speaker 3: people is because there's a lot of Jonahs out there,
Speaker 3: and they say, this isn't fair. He ordered thirty women,
Speaker 3: raped them, brutally, drained their blood and you know, chopped
Speaker 3: their parts up. How is he, within five minutes of
Speaker 3: his last breath getting to go to heaven just like
Speaker 3: the woman who spent her whole life, you know, doing
Speaker 3: all these works and doing all that. It's not fair,
Speaker 3: but to God, that's the point.
Speaker 4: Right, because you're never too late to be saved. Yeah,
Speaker 4: but we're all at them no matter what you did.
Speaker 6: Well, I always tell my little girl, because she'll come
Speaker 6: home from school and she'll hear some random thing or
Speaker 6: something that's a killer and she's like, do they go
Speaker 6: to hell? And I'm like, we are not supposed to
Speaker 6: figure that out. That's not our right, that's my pay grade.
Speaker 4: And that's the thing is like in this story, to
Speaker 4: give thanks for for everything that's provided for you, right,
Speaker 4: because he could have let him drown, absolutely, and that's
Speaker 4: still it would be over and there would be no
Speaker 4: Jonahs story. But he provided safety and shelter for him
Speaker 4: during the three days where he was supposed to be repenting, right,
Speaker 4: and he gave him chance after chance. And that is
Speaker 4: what God does in our lives, literally all the time.
Speaker 4: He loves you and he wants you to be better.
Speaker 4: He wants you to do better and treat people better
Speaker 4: and act better. And you know, he gave him multiple
Speaker 4: chances to continue to repent. And we're not perfect right
Speaker 4: after we accept God. I'm still not perfect by any means.
Speaker 4: I never will be, but it is on God's timeline
Speaker 4: for our sanctification.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 1: We're all a.
Speaker 4: Work in progress, and so Jonah was a work in
Speaker 4: progress too. Is it upsetting to me that he was
Speaker 4: so whiny and still so disobedient. Yeah, because a again, Hello,
Speaker 4: it's frustrating to me because I'm like, hello, slap you
Speaker 4: across the space. Do you not see that he wants
Speaker 4: you to change yet? But that's not for me to decide.
Speaker 4: That is that person's relationship with God and on what
Speaker 4: timeline that God has for them to change their behavior
Speaker 4: and do better. But it's also not my job to
Speaker 4: like judge other people. So sorry, God, I was a
Speaker 4: judging of Jonah being a whiny boy. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, and you know what, God forgives us for saying it,
Speaker 3: because somebody needed to hear that. But you know something
Speaker 3: my grandpa always used to tell me, and I think
Speaker 3: it's very true for this story as well, is just
Speaker 3: because someone is lost doesn't mean that they've lost their usefulness.
Speaker 5: And so.
Speaker 3: When Jonah surrendered in the belly of the whale and
Speaker 3: he said, do with me, you know what what you
Speaker 3: need me to do to serve whatever purpose there is
Speaker 3: that serves you, he was all on board, right, But
Speaker 3: full and total complete surrender means full and total and
Speaker 3: complete surrender throughout the process. And so if you want
Speaker 3: to serve your purpose to your fullest stability, you can't
Speaker 3: have any steak in the fire. You got to completely
Speaker 3: surrender over to God and let him just. Yeah, you
Speaker 3: might not get it, or it might suck, or you
Speaker 3: might actually get angry about it. But surrendering means a
Speaker 3: full and total surrender. It's not like a partial surrender.
Speaker 3: As long as things are going our way, we surrender.
Speaker 3: You know, as long as you do what I say,
Speaker 3: I will get bad. You know for me surrender.
Speaker 1: You think with the store, it's like it's it's open
Speaker 1: twenty four hours. It's like, yeah, but not in a row.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna surrender, but yeah, not weekends, holidays, evenings, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, So I think you know, just because
Speaker 3: Jonah was lost didn't mean he lost his usefulness.
Speaker 6: He just.
Speaker 3: He just had his own opinion on how God should
Speaker 3: run things. And that will never ever ever get you
Speaker 3: serving your purpose. No, that's you serving your purpose. That
Speaker 3: ended one hundred and twenty thousand people killed.
Speaker 4: And that's when things like that, that's when again your
Speaker 4: life is going to be chaos and turmoil and bad
Speaker 4: thing after bad thing after bad thing because you're so
Speaker 4: caught up in your your own self and your own
Speaker 4: self love and your own egotistical ways that you can't.
Speaker 4: You can't love God because there's no room in your
Speaker 4: heart for it because you're all about you.
Speaker 6: I get frustrated with the ones that do love God, okay,
Speaker 6: and then they don't do any of the things and
Speaker 6: they're not nice and they don't change or anything, and
Speaker 6: they've got like the best house, the best shit, the
Speaker 6: best everything, and you're just like, really, but.
Speaker 4: It's worldly stuff. Yes, it's worldly stuff, which God I
Speaker 4: don't care about.
Speaker 5: I don't even care, but just like to go to
Speaker 5: the grocery store and not have to stress, you know
Speaker 5: what I mean. It doesn't have to be a boat
Speaker 5: or something fancy.
Speaker 6: But like sometimes you know how you get that moment
Speaker 6: where you're like, come on, or like you know, you
Speaker 6: see they're always healthy, they never had a bad day,
Speaker 6: all these things, and then you really see the inside,
Speaker 6: which is what my mental health job has helped me
Speaker 6: so much, because you'll see these people come in that
Speaker 6: have everything, they are miserable.
Speaker 5: And I'm like, why are you so.
Speaker 4: Are they miserable?
Speaker 5: They because have anything real.
Speaker 6: They don't have family, they don't have love, they don't
Speaker 6: feel loved, they don't feel loved, they don't they just
Speaker 6: don't have that whole communication.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 5: It's it's weird, but I mean it happens all the time.
Speaker 6: With drinking. We see a lot of people come in
Speaker 6: for that because they'll drink and drink and drink to
Speaker 6: fill that void.
Speaker 5: But really nothing's feeling that, right.
Speaker 4: No, that's fine.
Speaker 3: So that's why I left my first husband. Technically, technically,
Speaker 3: I may have had a better worldly life with him
Speaker 3: because he made a lot of money and we had
Speaker 3: a three bedroom house and we had stuff. We had
Speaker 3: a pool in the backyard, we had a lot of stuff.
Speaker 3: I was miserable, Okay, so whenever I see like material possessions,
Speaker 3: as I mean, I could really care less at this point.
Speaker 6: Honestly, I guess I should have worded it better, like
Speaker 6: maybe not just word but like, okay, I'm somebody that
Speaker 6: suffers illness and chronic problems.
Speaker 1: All the time.
Speaker 5: It's like I take a joke.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I just make a joke of it now because like, honestly,
Speaker 6: you laugh or cry, and I'm not into crying, so
Speaker 6: like whatever, and so it just is a joke at
Speaker 6: this point, you know, And I'm like, man, I wonder
Speaker 6: how that would be or I wonder how this would
Speaker 6: be and you always see that stuff, and but then
Speaker 6: at the end of the day you're like, Okay, but
Speaker 6: how many times has God really pulled me out of
Speaker 6: the depths? You know, Like it's been a lot, you know,
Speaker 6: so I've never I've never been a Jonah though, where
Speaker 6: I've laid down and been like and I wanted.
Speaker 1: More, like I'm off, you'll get nothing like it.
Speaker 5: I'm so surprised that I'm like, damn, you really did that,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean?
Speaker 6: Like, I'm always grateful, but it's hard sometimes I think
Speaker 6: I can see both sides, but like I definitely don't
Speaker 6: resonate with Jonah.
Speaker 4: You don't want to be like Joe and be like, Lord,
Speaker 4: I want two plants next time.
Speaker 5: That way, I ever, Jen Xwell would not ever ask
Speaker 5: for another plant.
Speaker 1: Right then, he was doing a big I told you
Speaker 1: so to God because he said, I knew you were
Speaker 1: going to do this. I knew that if they repented,
Speaker 1: you were not going to defend here. I'm saying, you're
Speaker 1: going to destroy the whole city and for what he
Speaker 1: did and you didn't, And.
Speaker 4: It makes me look bad.
Speaker 1: It makes.
Speaker 3: Yeah so well, it makes me wonder if if the
Speaker 3: person who wrote Bruce Almighty. I don't know if you
Speaker 3: guys have seen that movie far if he read we
Speaker 3: read the Jonas story is inspiration because he's basically, Oh, Bruce,
Speaker 3: you think you can do it better. You whine and
Speaker 3: complain and I haven't done for you. I haven't done
Speaker 3: that for It's like, okay, you do it better then,
Speaker 3: and he runs himself into a hole in the ground.
Speaker 3: So it's like, there is a reason why we are
Speaker 3: not God well.
Speaker 4: And that's you know, one of the things where people
Speaker 4: will pray for something and then they get disheartened because
Speaker 4: they don't get it. God knows better than us, and
Speaker 4: God makes better decisions than we do because a lot
Speaker 4: of times our decisions are based on emotion and not
Speaker 4: like critical thought. And so you may think that you
Speaker 4: want a certain job or whatever, and He doesn't allow
Speaker 4: you to have that because that is not where you're
Speaker 4: meant to be. You're meant to get, you know, this
Speaker 4: job at XYZ company because you're supposed to meet Tamera
Speaker 4: or Heidi or Julia or whatever. He's going to provide
Speaker 4: for you, not just you know, things that you need
Speaker 4: to survive and live, but he's also going to provide
Speaker 4: during that same timeline with the people that you need.
Speaker 1: So we don't like that time. Yeah, we don't know
Speaker 1: the big picture, like Julie was saying, I think it
Speaker 1: was Bruce Almighty where he was getting all those email requests,
Speaker 1: the prayer request and it was like and finally he's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: select all, yes, everybody gets out. You know what crazy
Speaker 1: chaos that Yeah, you know that's.
Speaker 3: A great reference, actually, tam because that's what happens. And
Speaker 3: you know, someone that everybody likes to talk about in
Speaker 3: the conspiracy theory community and they use this phrase all
Speaker 3: the time about Alistair Crowley, is that his whole philosophy
Speaker 3: was what thou wilt? You have your own free will.
Speaker 3: You're the master of your destination. You know, you should
Speaker 3: be able to be your own God. And like people
Speaker 3: in the conspiracy theory community love to bring him up
Speaker 3: and they love to bring that up and say how
Speaker 3: toxic that mindset is. But by praying for something and
Speaker 3: not getting it right away, and you thinking you know
Speaker 3: better than God and it should go this way and
Speaker 3: God should do what I said because I wanted it
Speaker 3: to be, I mean, you might as well go follow Crowley.
Speaker 3: Sounds like that's the guy you're that's the guy you're
Speaker 3: more aligned with, is like everything should be my way
Speaker 3: or go to hell, like that's his my that he's
Speaker 3: his own God. That's very dangerous.
Speaker 5: You know Christians.
Speaker 6: Christians were not ever called Christians. They were called followers
Speaker 6: of the way. And it's not your way right the way,
Speaker 6: it's not your Yeah, this isn't what's the place you
Speaker 6: can have it your way?
Speaker 5: It's not that right, that's not.
Speaker 4: That So, ladies, I love you to pieces. I'm so
Speaker 4: glad we could have this conversation today. I hope it
Speaker 4: opens up some doors of thought for some people, because,
Speaker 4: like I said, I know for me, rereading this again,
Speaker 4: it definitely hit me like a mac truck and I
Speaker 4: was like, oh, oh, look at it now. So hopefully
Speaker 4: somebody gets something that we said or can relate to
Speaker 4: something that we said. And Julia had been earlier, like
Speaker 4: giving up, giving up your way, giving up things so
Speaker 4: that you can like reborn and have a new life
Speaker 4: next time. I would really like to do Elisha and
Speaker 4: Elijah because that's very important, and especially for things that
Speaker 4: Miss Heidi does. Yeah, so that plays into that a lot.
Speaker 4: We know a lot of people that could benefit from
Speaker 4: that particular story. If that's okay with you ladies.
Speaker 3: Yes, looking forward to it.
Speaker 4: Fabulous. So, miss Julia, where can people think you at?
Speaker 3: Thanks for having me, Janet, I'm so glad that you
Speaker 3: picked this one to start off with. I think this
Speaker 3: has been a great time for me at least, But
Speaker 3: and I learned a lot of stuff too, because you
Speaker 3: guys are awesome. But I have the Cosmic Peach Podcast
Speaker 3: wherever you listen to podcast Patreon if you wanted some
Speaker 3: extra stuff, AD free and all that. And if you
Speaker 3: do want to contact me, you can go to my Instagram,
Speaker 3: cosmic dot Peach dot podcast. That's the only way to
Speaker 3: contact me if you want to come on the show,
Speaker 3: you want me to be on your show. I always
Speaker 3: forget to plug that last one. But thanks for having me, Janet,
Speaker 3: I had a great time.
Speaker 4: Thank you for being here. So, miss Heidi, where can
Speaker 4: people find you?
Speaker 5: I am the squeaky voice Heidi this week.
Speaker 6: I'm everywhere podcasts are served, and I do have my
Speaker 6: own website. I have Unfiltered rispodcast dot com if you
Speaker 6: want to go there, if you don't like to go
Speaker 6: to players, it will update and it shows the show
Speaker 6: every single week. You can go and see that and
Speaker 6: on Spotify or any podchaser, including that website. I do
Speaker 6: twice a week, YouTube once a week because they're kicking
Speaker 6: everybody off right now, so I'm not about to be
Speaker 6: putting all my stuff on there. So yeah, find me there,
Speaker 6: Find me on Instagram.
Speaker 5: Twitter. Been a really active on there since all the
Speaker 5: JFK files.
Speaker 4: Great hence hence the three twenty in the morning text
Speaker 4: from you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I walked up.
Speaker 3: I know, what the hell is this?
Speaker 5: I was like, oh my gosh, I sent that to Janet.
Speaker 4: I was trying to rate it.
Speaker 3: I didn't know my.
Speaker 4: Glasses on and I'm like, what, Like, what the hell
Speaker 4: is she? And I'm like, why did she send me this?
Speaker 4: And why is it so early in the morning?
Speaker 5: Such a strange girl.
Speaker 4: But it was very it was a very interesting text.
Speaker 4: So thank you. I learned something I didn't know.
Speaker 3: I've been a couple of those since the JFK files
Speaker 3: dropped too. I think something about Marilyn Monroe was in there.
Speaker 3: Somebody sent me.
Speaker 6: So there's well, yeah, many, there's like eight hund I
Speaker 6: don't even know. There's some crazy amount. But of course,
Speaker 6: the Mormons never disappoint They are always there, and if
Speaker 6: they're not there as in religion Mormons, they are there
Speaker 6: as the Mormon mafia.
Speaker 5: With Captain Mayhew. He's not really a captain.
Speaker 4: I just yeah, he's in everything, he says, Captain Mayhew
Speaker 4: because he wears a cape in his spare time.
Speaker 6: What it is. Seriously, he's an idiot, but he was
Speaker 6: actually part of everything.
Speaker 4: So that's tam. Where can people find you?
Speaker 1: Thank you, Janet? I just want to say thank you.
Speaker 1: And instead of drunk test texting, we've got HEII texting.
Speaker 5: My mind at three am.
Speaker 1: Everyone suffered with me scarier. That was awesome. That was
Speaker 1: This was really a fantastic discussion. It was way more
Speaker 1: in depth than I thought it was going to be,
Speaker 1: and it was a perfect way to start. It was
Speaker 1: really good, Janet. I liked the idea. That was good.
Speaker 1: I met a level playing poem on Instagram, and we
Speaker 1: have our charismatrue store dot com and I just started
Speaker 1: I've actually started posting I think I meant this last
Speaker 1: time and at hacking hoaxes on Instagram. I started doing
Speaker 1: the nuke hoax nuke weapons hoax, and I've only got
Speaker 1: about maybe ten or twelve now, but I've got about
Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty slides already that I'm ready to
Speaker 1: just start because it is just it's it's so there's
Speaker 1: so much to.
Speaker 4: Expose.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 1: It's good. It's good.
Speaker 3: I love it when Tam exposes herself.
Speaker 4: There's a whole nother show coming up and.
Speaker 1: Laugh. Thank you, guys. I mean my cheeks were hurting,
Speaker 1: my stomach was hurting. This things me that too.
Speaker 4: The balance, Right, that's what we're here for, right, Lift
Speaker 4: each other up, build each other up, and make each
Speaker 4: other laugh whenever we can, because that's important too. So
Speaker 4: beautiful ladies, I love you all, so so so very much.
Speaker 4: Thank you from the bottom of my heart for being here,
Speaker 4: for uh doing your priorates and educating the masses.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 4: And I hope people are not whiney. Jonas will come
Speaker 4: for you, so for me, for Julia, for Heidi, and
Speaker 4: for tamor We'll see you next time. Have a great win,
Speaker 4: and thanks for listening.
Speaker 2: There's a long black train coming down the line. The
Speaker 2: off souls that are long stand prime rails, off sin,
Speaker 2: not only evil remainds. Watch our brother for that long
Speaker 2: black train. Look to the head and you can look
Speaker 2: to the sky, you can find redemptions. Turn back into
Speaker 2: your eyes. There is protection. Running their speeds the same,
Speaker 2: burning your ticket for that long black train