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Speaker 1: Hey guys, welcome back to another show. I'm really excited
Speaker 1: about my guests today. I really look up to him
Speaker 1: for what he's done. In podcasting, I always say this,
Speaker 1: and you know, he's probably tired of hearing it. But
Speaker 1: I know, like before I even had a podcast, in
Speaker 1: like twenty seventeen or twenty eighteen, I was watching Forbidden
Speaker 1: Knowledge News. I was also watching a lot of Leak
Speaker 1: Project with Rex Bear, and they kind of heavily influenced
Speaker 1: my show. And then, you know, everybody does their own
Speaker 1: thing and you get your own style and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: And now I've noticed people have done that with my show,
Speaker 1: so it's interesting, like, you know, but no I have
Speaker 1: with me. Chris Matthew, he's the He's the He's the
Speaker 1: founder of Forbidden Knowledge News and the Forbidden Knowledge News Network,
Speaker 1: And I wrote what connections may exist between childhood Gate programs,
Speaker 1: Intelligence Experimentation, MK ULTRA and ritualized Trauma. Today, I welcome
Speaker 1: Chris Matthew, founder and host of for Bid Knowledge News
Speaker 1: and for Bid Knowledge Network, for a deep, uncensored conversation
Speaker 1: about controversial programs and the hidden systems that operate behind them.
Speaker 1: Chris has built an independent media network dedicated to investigating
Speaker 1: suppressed history, unexplained phenomena, covert operations, consciousness, technology, and subjects
Speaker 1: frequently ignored by the mainstream media. In this episode, we'll
Speaker 1: examine reports of surrounding gifted and talented education programs, trauma
Speaker 1: based conditioning MK ULTRA, SRA testimony, and the possibility that
Speaker 1: vulnerable individuals may have been monitored for or selected from
Speaker 1: an early age. And yeah, I'm going to add them
Speaker 1: to the stage now and I'm really excited about this.
Speaker 1: And yeah, yeah, Chris, thanks so much for coming back on. Man,
Speaker 1: how are you hey.
Speaker 3: I'm great, man, Thank you so much for having me
Speaker 3: back on. I apologize to everyone for the sheety camera
Speaker 3: and shitty camera. I'm unable to use my normal one
Speaker 3: for some reason here, but good to be here, man,
Speaker 3: Thanks for having me back.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like, what's new, What's new over it? FKN and everything.
Speaker 3: Well, we are still pumping out six episodes a week.
Speaker 3: I am currently producing and editing my third film. I'm
Speaker 3: very excited about this one. It's going to be a
Speaker 3: sci fi comedy mockumentary, something very different than I've done
Speaker 3: in the previous two films, and we're having a great
Speaker 3: time with it. We'll have some content creators and researchers
Speaker 3: that I'm sure you all recognize. And yeah, it's a
Speaker 3: great change of pace for the more serious documentaries that
Speaker 3: I've made, and we're hoping to have a release on
Speaker 3: that around October on all these streaming platforms. But I'll
Speaker 3: keep you posting.
Speaker 1: That's awesome, man. Yeah, well today we're going to get
Speaker 1: into the Gifted and Talented and the SRA and mind
Speaker 1: control and MK ultra and stuff. Did you notice that
Speaker 1: they had the mk Ultra hearings and like, what were
Speaker 1: your thoughts on that? Do you think we're making progress?
Speaker 3: We're making progress as it relates to the normies and
Speaker 3: to the people who are not aware of this stuff.
Speaker 3: I think it's a great thing to bring awareness to everybody.
Speaker 3: Although we've been so desensitized as a society, especially with
Speaker 3: recent conspiracy dumps, the Epstein files, UFO files. People are
Speaker 3: on information overload and they're just becoming desynthesized by everything,
Speaker 3: so they'll hear the most horrific stuff and nowadays they'd
Speaker 3: be like, Yeah, that's just the way the world is.
Speaker 3: What are you going to do and just keep on
Speaker 3: going with their lives. It's a really sad state. But
Speaker 3: as far as that goes, I think they are only
Speaker 3: bringing They're not bringing anything new. All the information that
Speaker 3: they're discussing. There has been out there for a very
Speaker 3: long time. You just had to do a little bit
Speaker 3: of research to find this stuff. But there are some
Speaker 3: great testimonies coming out, some interesting people that they chose
Speaker 3: to testify. I'm wondering why there's others that they didn't choose.
Speaker 3: But I'm hoping that it will just continue to bring
Speaker 3: information to light, and I'm hoping some something has got
Speaker 3: to spark a flame under people's asses about the nature
Speaker 3: of our systems and nature of reality everything that's been
Speaker 3: coming out right now. But it's a it's a really
Speaker 3: tough road as it relates to information. We're in the
Speaker 3: biggest information propaganda syeop war ever.
Speaker 1: Wait, dude, didn't you have bro? I think I thought
Speaker 1: I saw an episode you did with Roseanne and Kathy O'Brien.
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, yeah, I was like, dude, what was.
Speaker 1: It like meeting Roseanne? I've had a message in her, like,
Speaker 1: you know, she hasn't gone back to me, but like
Speaker 1: I watched her show Grow. I think everybody pretty so
Speaker 1: many people probably told you I watched her show Grown.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, she was great, man, it was extremely unexpected.
Speaker 3: I had Kathy O'Brien and doctor Juliet Engele scheduled. I
Speaker 3: don't know if you've ever spoken with her. She's next
Speaker 3: week wonderful. Yeah, she's great. She is also an mk
Speaker 3: Ultra survivor and whenever Kathy connected to Zoom, she's all
Speaker 3: excited and she says, I have a friend here with me.
Speaker 3: Do you mind if she joins us? And I'm thinking,
Speaker 3: who what? And then Rosie O'Donnell pops in the camera
Speaker 3: and she's like, hey, what's up. And it was a shock,
Speaker 3: to say the least. But I was happy to have
Speaker 3: her and it was a great episode. She had limited input,
Speaker 3: but what she added was more along the lines of
Speaker 3: her personal feelings about some of the things happening and
Speaker 3: what we were discussing as it relates to MK Ultra
Speaker 3: and the greater nature of the implication of everything and
Speaker 3: the systems connected so on. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's a good point about the greater implications
Speaker 1: of everything, because I feel like there could be major
Speaker 1: implications if if we were to get full disclosure about
Speaker 1: like what's going on and what's happened to some people,
Speaker 1: and as far as like some of the shit we're
Speaker 1: going to talk about today, because like it's it's when
Speaker 1: you start to you know, if a lot of these
Speaker 1: people are telling the truth, you know, and you know,
Speaker 1: I you know, I know some of the stories we
Speaker 1: hear out there, you know what I mean. Like, but
Speaker 1: like's if even a little bit of that's true, the
Speaker 1: holy shit, man, that's like some of the shit's been
Speaker 1: done to people is absolutely criminal.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's incredible once you start diving in because there's
Speaker 3: so many layers to peel through, and it does connect
Speaker 3: to so many other conspiracies corruption. The nature of our
Speaker 3: systems and the web that's connected with not only mk Aultra,
Speaker 3: but many of these black project programs that were spawned
Speaker 3: off of mk Ultra. It forms such an intricate web
Speaker 3: and there are so many people involved. But one of
Speaker 3: the most interesting things is most of the people involved
Speaker 3: not at the highest level, but you know, they're still
Speaker 3: involved at a pretty decent level. They have no idea,
Speaker 3: many of them have no idea that they are involved.
Speaker 3: They have no idea what they're really doing, they have
Speaker 3: no idea why they have been brought into these programs
Speaker 3: such as the Gate program, which we'll get to in
Speaker 3: a bit. But some of these people, i'd say the
Speaker 3: higher level people are groomed from a yell very young age,
Speaker 3: and they're a part of intelligence families or military level
Speaker 3: military families. They use their kids because they want their
Speaker 3: kids to be very successful psychopaths so that they could have,
Speaker 3: you know, be able to handle the power that they're
Speaker 3: going to get. So they the intelligence people at the top,
Speaker 3: they throw their kids in these programs from early age,
Speaker 3: most likely private schools and schools that specialize in early
Speaker 3: mind control and programming and grooming for very powerful positions
Speaker 3: like president or congressmen or movie star or something where
Speaker 3: they're going to be out there in front of people.
Speaker 3: Then we have the level of I think it could
Speaker 3: be the you know, very equal when it comes to
Speaker 3: the people that are being taken unaware, either it gets
Speaker 3: weird through astral technologies, or they're actually being physically taken
Speaker 3: drugged up and they are having their memory wiped, or
Speaker 3: they have no idea what's going on when they're being taken.
Speaker 3: That's another level. And then we have the level that
Speaker 3: everyone has access to because everybody's parent wants their kids
Speaker 3: to be smart and successful. And what is the gifted
Speaker 3: and talented program advertised as if your kid is in
Speaker 3: this program. It's going to help them succeed along the way,
Speaker 3: and that sounds great for parents. Most parents have no
Speaker 3: idea what it's really about at all, but they either
Speaker 3: submit their kids to the program or their kids are tested.
Speaker 3: I believe all schools are tested for the Gifts and
Speaker 3: Talented program at one in one way or another. Whether
Speaker 3: it's you know, a physical written test which we used
Speaker 3: to do, I don't know how that's in any of
Speaker 3: that works nowadays. A lot of the stuff that I'm
Speaker 3: discussing it references earlier time periods seventies, eighties, nineties, and
Speaker 3: a little bit of today, because we have very little
Speaker 3: information coming out about modern Gate programs and MKL for programs.
Speaker 3: My friend has just started to dive into some of
Speaker 3: the modern stuff. He just made a movie, Psychic Agent
Speaker 3: the Gate Program. It's a great film if you guys
Speaker 3: want to go check that out. But there's very little
Speaker 3: information coming out about what's happening with modern Gate programs.
Speaker 3: But back in you know, seventies eighties, they would either
Speaker 3: get signed up or they tested into these programs, and
Speaker 3: depending on how high they tested or what kind of
Speaker 3: scores they had, they would move on to other levels.
Speaker 3: After school programs where they would be taken to off
Speaker 3: site locations and tested. They had, of course, the hearing tests.
Speaker 3: People hear about the pink drink whatever that is some
Speaker 3: speculated drugs. I remember having a pink drink, but it
Speaker 3: was just fluoride that they made us swish around and
Speaker 3: spit out. But I wasn't a part of the gate program.
Speaker 3: I was tested, and I'm pretty sure I flunked, So
Speaker 3: that's lunked the initial test. So I didn't really go
Speaker 3: any further. But I know a lot of people who have,
Speaker 3: and it just depends on what they find you're capable of.
Speaker 3: And they're looking for everything from psychopathy to extreme charisma,
Speaker 3: to psychic and telekinetic abilities, connection to the spirit realms,
Speaker 3: connection to non human entities of any kinds. So they
Speaker 3: start them early when kids are still open to some
Speaker 3: of this stuff. They like to start them as early
Speaker 3: as possible, and they groom them for whatever they want
Speaker 3: them to be. And not all kids are tortured and
Speaker 3: put through horrible, terrible, you know, experimentation or programs. Some
Speaker 3: of them are just pushed along in a certain direction.
Speaker 3: And I believe many of them and not all of them,
Speaker 3: but many of them have handlers in their lives. The
Speaker 3: kids that become successful within the Gate program, they have
Speaker 3: someone that gets inserted into their lives, whether it's a friend,
Speaker 3: family member, usually girlfriends, or or something along those lines,
Speaker 3: so that they can keep close tabs on them and
Speaker 3: they make sure that they're following the trajectory that they're
Speaker 3: supposed to go and adjusting a little bit here along
Speaker 3: the way. And that's where it gets really deep, because
Speaker 3: it's not only handlers. If a person, if they're really
Speaker 3: serious about grooming a person, they're going to affect every
Speaker 3: aspect of their lives some way, somehow, what kind of
Speaker 3: job they're getting, who they could come into contact in
Speaker 3: their lives, what kind of tragedies may happen. Suddenly it
Speaker 3: goes that deep. So these people are controlled, Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: You do you think that they have like some kind
Speaker 1: of like you know, like I know you talked about
Speaker 1: this as well, like the walking glass like technology. I
Speaker 1: know when Rider I talked to Rider actually about that.
Speaker 1: He thinks that it was a different kind of program,
Speaker 1: that it was like that it was come kind of
Speaker 1: like SIOP or something. But like some people swear that
Speaker 1: it's it's it's still a time travel technology regardless, Like
Speaker 1: do you think that they have that or some other
Speaker 1: kind of like time time technology that they can see
Speaker 1: like potential timelines of what someone's gonna be like or
Speaker 1: something like that.
Speaker 3: So I can only go off of what some of
Speaker 3: my guests have said that have claimed to have been
Speaker 3: involved in those deep levels of the programs, like doctor
Speaker 3: Juliet Ngele. She said, whenever they would want her to
Speaker 3: quote unquote time travel or remote view it's basically the
Speaker 3: same thing as remote viewing. She would know how to
Speaker 3: project her third eye sight, her astral body, whatever you
Speaker 3: want to call it, to any certain location and get information.
Speaker 3: She said. She was also able to trime travel that way.
Speaker 3: She was able to project her consciousness backwards or forwards
Speaker 3: in time also to bring back information, but it was
Speaker 3: mainly information gathering. I'm not sure if she was able
Speaker 3: to affect anything in the past or the future or
Speaker 3: anything like that. But she would also go to alternate dimensions,
Speaker 3: different realms. It gets wild, she said. You know, she
Speaker 3: learned from a very early age how to astral project,
Speaker 3: how to exit her body. Hers was very traumatic. They
Speaker 3: tortured her in incredibly horrible ways, but they would just
Speaker 3: torture her enough till she dissociated and eventually she would
Speaker 3: leave her body and be able to have access to
Speaker 3: these other realms. They would get training Monroe Institute style
Speaker 3: training of how to navigate astral realms, time travel, remote
Speaker 3: view those wildest stuff that you would never believe. And
Speaker 3: I'm sure many in your audience are like that some
Speaker 3: big butleshit, But that's what they claim, man, And I'm
Speaker 3: pretty sure it's possible. I know remote viewing as possible.
Speaker 3: I know astral travel, astral out of body experiences are
Speaker 3: are possible as well. So why wouldn't you be able
Speaker 3: to use that for some kind of espionage or something
Speaker 3: like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I had to laugh when you say that, that's
Speaker 1: some bullshit. I think, like, Okay, so that brings up
Speaker 1: a good point. That's where I'm kind of I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm not at that point with the Secret Space Program.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm I'm I'm like, I'm like a conundrum
Speaker 1: with it because like, sure, I have a lot of
Speaker 1: SSP experiencers on and I honor them and I let
Speaker 1: them come on and tell their story. But at the
Speaker 1: same time, I'm like, can we believe everything we're hearing,
Speaker 1: because like, at the end of the day, it's like,
Speaker 1: we have no evidence. But at the same time, it's
Speaker 1: like when you're dealing with black projects, I don't think
Speaker 1: we're gonna get much evidence. So it's like it's it's
Speaker 1: definitely like a conundrum kind of you know.
Speaker 3: Well, I think the people that claim to be in
Speaker 3: the secret Space program, they're definitely connected with MK Ultra,
Speaker 3: other kinds of black projects, even the Gate program. But
Speaker 3: there's in from my perspective, there's a couple of things
Speaker 3: that could be happening with this. First, I don't think
Speaker 3: they're really traveling to other planets fighting physical extraterrestrial beings,
Speaker 3: however they claim to be doing it, whether it's jump
Speaker 3: rooms or consciousness projection, whatever that is. I don't think
Speaker 3: they're really physically going there. Another possibility, and I do
Speaker 3: believe they believe their stories. They believe they're telling the truth,
Speaker 3: and their experiences were very real for them. So the
Speaker 3: other possibility is they are astral traveling. Like I just said,
Speaker 3: they're having out of body experiences or guided out of
Speaker 3: body experiences lots of times. What they'll do with these
Speaker 3: MK Ultra people, they will drug them heavy psychedelics, and
Speaker 3: once they are able to exit their body, they guide
Speaker 3: them through whatever experience that has you're fighting an alien here,
Speaker 3: or you're doing this and that. That's another possibility. They're
Speaker 3: either guiding them to have the experience or they're having
Speaker 3: a genuine astral encounter with non human intelligences, which I
Speaker 3: think is also possible.
Speaker 1: The other is.
Speaker 3: They're making it up for whatever reason. They are either
Speaker 3: not all in their faculties, or they may even be
Speaker 3: part of these programs in a sense that they are
Speaker 3: being paid to lie, They're being paid to give misinformation.
Speaker 3: I doubt that's the thing, but I know that's a
Speaker 3: thing with content creators, that a content creator will get
Speaker 3: on the radar and they will get co opted and projected.
Speaker 3: The algorithm will pick them up. And that's also connected
Speaker 3: with this stuff because they're groomed in a sense, they
Speaker 3: are guided, and they most of those people have no idea,
Speaker 3: no idea. That's why I am as independent as possible
Speaker 3: with this. I don't work with. Only in person I
Speaker 3: work with is Corey, who I've been friends with forever.
Speaker 3: Oh god, he could be one. No. Yeah, And honestly,
Speaker 3: you probably wouldn't be able to tell either way, so
Speaker 3: it gets wild.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but one of them. But the most cases that
Speaker 1: come to mind is CG. I don't know if we
Speaker 1: can say his name, you know.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we can say Cory Good. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's like the you know, he's the one that
Speaker 1: people question a lot, and even you know, people had
Speaker 1: some like speculation when Willcock passed away that like, was
Speaker 1: was Corey Good like you know, somewhat like I don't know,
Speaker 1: not negligent, because I wouldn't say he was negligent for
Speaker 1: his death or anything like that, but like, you know,
Speaker 1: did he manipulate David in some way that like, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, that's as possible.
Speaker 3: I've heard speculation that he was put into his life
Speaker 3: for specific reasons, and maybe it could have been a catalyst,
Speaker 3: or maybe Corey Good could just be a con artist
Speaker 3: who took advantage of him and situations built up for
Speaker 3: David Wilcock. There's some strange circumstances surrounding Wilcox's death which
Speaker 3: makes me question everything. But I'm still leaning towards it
Speaker 3: was just a suicide. But whatever led up to that,
Speaker 3: I couldn't tell you. I didn't really follow his work
Speaker 3: that much.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well another thing that you've been researching that
Speaker 1: ties into this as the SRA.
Speaker 3: You know, in fact, it's wild. So this one's interesting.
Speaker 3: I've heard different theories from different people about why this
Speaker 3: is used. By the way, Michael Aquino was a huge
Speaker 3: part of these mk ulture programs. I've had several guests
Speaker 3: that say, yes, he was there. He was there while
Speaker 3: they were experimenting on me and torturing me. Also, doctor
Speaker 3: Juliet Engel, she was growing up with him. He was
Speaker 3: a small child in the program, so he was being
Speaker 3: groomed with her at the same time as her, which
Speaker 3: is pretty wild. But as far as the theories behind
Speaker 3: why does he use first one, it's possible that they
Speaker 3: really believe in Satanism. They really believe in Luciferianism, the
Speaker 3: dark arts, magic entities that are demons, whatever you want
Speaker 3: to call it, and they utilize black magic sorcery within
Speaker 3: these programs the other and this gets deeper, and when
Speaker 3: you get too deep, there's really not much of a
Speaker 3: difference between them. But they could have such a great
Speaker 3: understanding of psychology and blending it with technology and science
Speaker 3: that they use Satanic ritual abuse to perpetuate a narrative
Speaker 3: that they're magical, to make these people believe that they're
Speaker 3: doing something that has these mystical effects, when all they're
Speaker 3: really doing is using extreme psychological manipulation techniques and torture,
Speaker 3: which if you dress in a robe and you're chanting
Speaker 3: while you're torturing them, that adds a whole new level
Speaker 3: of effect for that person. So I've heard both. I
Speaker 3: couldn't tell you which is the case, and it's probably
Speaker 3: a mix of both, depending on what program you're in,
Speaker 3: or who is at the higher level of either program,
Speaker 3: what faction is doing it, it may be just a
Speaker 3: mix of everything as it relates to that. But the
Speaker 3: rituals are they become real either way. From what I understand,
Speaker 3: the effects of the ritual, whether it's real magic accessing
Speaker 3: demons or something along those lines, or it's psychological manipulation
Speaker 3: of an extreme level, the effects are the same. So
Speaker 3: it really doesn't make a difference either way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what's scary about the Michaelaucino thing is
Speaker 1: the fact that he was able to like, like ascertain
Speaker 1: like a high level of position in the government or
Speaker 1: in the military, you know, like they just let him, like,
Speaker 1: you know, become a.
Speaker 3: They didn't let him. They groomed him. They were, like
Speaker 3: I said, he was with you, doctor Juliet Engel from
Speaker 3: a very young age. They were grooming him for that
Speaker 3: very position. They were grooming him to start the psychological
Speaker 3: warfare and the military, the modern operations. That's what he was,
Speaker 3: you know, that's what he was supposed to be all about.
Speaker 3: And that's why they they they put him in there.
Speaker 1: Wow, that's that's crazy, holy shit, Like that's uh yeah,
Speaker 1: it sounds almost like he was like he was like.
Speaker 3: But here's the thing. Look at any celebrity, not any
Speaker 3: most celebrities, look at it, most politicians that get high
Speaker 3: levels of power, most people who are super billionaires, CEOs.
Speaker 3: I would suspect that most of those people went through
Speaker 3: some kind of gifted in talented program. And it doesn't
Speaker 3: just have to be GATE. They have variations of Gate.
Speaker 3: They have all kinds of different acronyms that really mean
Speaker 3: the same thing as the Gifted and Talented program. And
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure all these people, the only people who
Speaker 3: are allowed to get a certain level of power and influence,
Speaker 3: are under control. They have been through these broths they've
Speaker 3: been groomed for that position. They have handlers, and the
Speaker 3: second they step out of line, things happen. Are you know,
Speaker 3: they're reprogrammed in some way. Another aspect of this is
Speaker 3: the self destruct aspect. So there's people who if they
Speaker 3: don't make it to certain levels, or they start breaking
Speaker 3: their program, or there's you know, there's a fail safe
Speaker 3: measure that is programmed into them where they will get suicidal,
Speaker 3: they will start doing drugs, they will self sabotaze themselves,
Speaker 3: and it's over for them. And so they have ways
Speaker 3: of making sure these people either stay in line or
Speaker 3: don't get too independent in some ways.
Speaker 1: Do you think it's the same case with content creators
Speaker 1: as well?
Speaker 3: Oh dude, this is the rabbit hole. I think it's possible.
Speaker 3: I do, because there's so many content creators that come
Speaker 3: out of nowhere and the next thing you know, they
Speaker 3: got two hundred and fifty thousand millions sub subscribers, millions
Speaker 3: of views all the time, and it does make me
Speaker 3: question how did they get this far. I've been doing
Speaker 3: this for almost a decade and I'm still I got
Speaker 3: kicked off of YouTube. I'm stuck at around thirty thousand subscribers.
Speaker 3: But guess what my views are? Dog shit. I get
Speaker 3: less than a thousand most of the time views on
Speaker 3: you this just YouTube. We do well on the podcast,
Speaker 3: but they hate me, and I don't think they've been
Speaker 3: growing me in any way. But I do think it's
Speaker 3: possible for some people for some reason.
Speaker 1: I get better views on Rumble, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: I get little better views on Rumble a little bit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but I'm probably at the same level as you,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But like if I have
Speaker 1: like but it's weird, like if I have someone like
Speaker 1: carry Castley on like the views will do like exceptionally well,
Speaker 1: or like if I have on like, oh.
Speaker 3: You know why because Karrot. Okay, all right, I'm not
Speaker 3: gonna say too much, but I'm gonna say do you
Speaker 3: know why? And you'll say yeah, and I'll say, well,
Speaker 3: there are reasons that she is still out there and
Speaker 3: so popular and getting mini views. And I'm not gonna
Speaker 3: say anything else, but if you do just a little
Speaker 3: bit of digging. I can't remember the gentleman who did
Speaker 3: an expose on her right now, but there's a few
Speaker 3: of them, and she has shady backgrounds that indicate that
Speaker 3: she was also propped up to that position, but allegedly
Speaker 3: allegedly allegedly.
Speaker 1: Holy shit, dude, that's uh, that's that's uh dude, that's man.
Speaker 1: We were dropping bombs today. Holy shit. Like you know,
Speaker 1: I wasn't prepared to go there, but I just just
Speaker 1: say no.
Speaker 3: No, you know, like I said, it's just you know,
Speaker 3: I don't I don't no, I don't know. But if
Speaker 3: this is what I've heard from others, So I'll just
Speaker 3: say that what.
Speaker 1: What what do you think is going on with? Okay,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you where I'm at with the the whole
Speaker 1: UFO disclosure thing. Like so far, they've dropped like five
Speaker 1: what they call tranches of evidence, and like, dude, this
Speaker 1: is like I've done a couple of videos, like me
Speaker 1: and one of my moderators, Jason, he's a good friend,
Speaker 1: Like he's really into like the UFO phenomena too, and
Speaker 1: like he knows a lot about it as well, and
Speaker 1: like you know, we've done shows covering this where we
Speaker 1: we went over the files and like you know, he's
Speaker 1: even done one on his own channel, and like it
Speaker 1: seems to me like the experiences that I know have
Speaker 1: better evidence of more UFOs than anything the government's put now,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Yes, Now, before I address that, I want to go
Speaker 3: back to content creators for just a second and reiterate
Speaker 3: the possibility that they may not even know that they're
Speaker 3: being propped up. They may also have, you know, unseen
Speaker 3: influences that are altering the algorithms or their numbers and
Speaker 3: propping them up. So even people like Carry Cassidy may
Speaker 3: not even know that something is off about her viewership
Speaker 3: or the way she was propelled into her you know,
Speaker 3: wherever she's at. So that being said, we'll get to
Speaker 3: the UFO stuff.
Speaker 1: I want to forget it. This is really important to you.
Speaker 1: Do you ever notice there's a couple of these and
Speaker 1: like I don't want to say they're like kind of
Speaker 1: like UFO slash like conspiracy channels. Like I'll couple, I'll
Speaker 1: just say they're guys, you know, and like they'll either
Speaker 1: have like you know, like semi pretty big name guests
Speaker 1: on but they have like hundreds, there's thousands of subscribers,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, And their shows seem pretty cool,
Speaker 1: you know, But like but then some of them cover
Speaker 1: like Travis Walton and stuff, and I'm like you know,
Speaker 1: like I like Travis Walton, but like how many times
Speaker 1: can we hear that story?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 1: And it's like I don't, I don't know. I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess if I got the interview, the
Speaker 1: chance of the interview, I probably would. But like still
Speaker 1: at the same time, like it seems like it's like
Speaker 1: it's like beating a dead horse at this point, but
Speaker 1: also like there you had to have seen these channels,
Speaker 1: like and it's just things like they come out of
Speaker 1: nowhere and they.
Speaker 3: Have like there's another thing about that. No, it's all right.
Speaker 3: The the Shadow band, there's a shadow band aspect. I
Speaker 3: believe people like yourself and people like myself, and there's
Speaker 3: many others. My friend Charlie Robinson that the algorithm is
Speaker 3: intentionally suppressed on all of their platforms. They don't want
Speaker 3: their our bo is being heard. I noticed this started.
Speaker 3: It started in twenty eighteen after the Alex Jones Schmandy
Speaker 3: blah blah blah incident and when they started censoring everyone.
Speaker 3: And it was around that time that my YouTube growth
Speaker 3: completely stopped, numbers on other platforms extremely slowed down. It
Speaker 3: was just that the day after that verdict for that trial,
Speaker 3: for Alex Jones, everything stopped. And it wasn't just for me,
Speaker 3: it was for a bunch of my colleagues that are
Speaker 3: in doing the same thing I am. And I think
Speaker 3: there's certain people that were not, you know, naturally becoming
Speaker 3: popular because I think in the beginning, YouTube gave people opportunities.
Speaker 3: It really did. It was something where people could have
Speaker 3: natural growth if their stuff was good. And in the beginning,
Speaker 3: the first three years, my stuff was growing like crazy,
Speaker 3: you know, ten twenty thousand views after just a few
Speaker 3: months of posting things on there, and it jumps up
Speaker 3: to ten twenty thousand subscribers, hit thirty thousand. The Sandy
Speaker 3: Hook incident, excuse me, this Shmandy Blook Alex Jones incident happened,
Speaker 3: and everybody just gets cut off that were naturally growing,
Speaker 3: that were very they were the real diad like. They
Speaker 3: were people like yourself, like myself, that were just naturally curious,
Speaker 3: naturally trying to find out what was going on. They
Speaker 3: weren't propped up in any artificial way. And all those
Speaker 3: people had this blocker put on them to where no
Speaker 3: matter what they do, no matter what new content they had,
Speaker 3: they're never going to be allowed to grow like some
Speaker 3: of the other guys you're talking about. And that being said,
Speaker 3: those guys may not be being propped that. They may
Speaker 3: just be good and have natural growth, but they're not
Speaker 3: part of that shadow band thing which occurred between twenty
Speaker 3: eighteen and twenty twenty three or twenty twenty two when
Speaker 3: I when they gave me my YouTube channel back out
Speaker 3: of nowhere. But even though they gave it back, I'm
Speaker 3: still in that lockdown and I believe you are too,
Speaker 3: and there's a bunch of others.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they still haven't given me my first channel back.
Speaker 1: But like I I think it's I think it's because
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, I could, I think I
Speaker 1: have no clue, to be honest with you, I could
Speaker 1: guess forever you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: I was. We were just talking about dangerous, dangerous, dangerous things,
Speaker 3: dangerous for the ruling class, and they didn't like it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, that's what I think it is, honestly. Yeah. Like,
Speaker 1: but like I but going back to it, and I
Speaker 1: think this is interesting because I think a lot of
Speaker 1: people that are aspiring podcasters, like can can can get
Speaker 1: something out of what we're saying here, because like you know,
Speaker 1: I I I you know, I see like now everybody
Speaker 1: in their mom has a YouTube page, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, And it's like, yeah, it's like it's I
Speaker 1: don't think they realize, like it's not you know, all
Speaker 1: peaches and roses, you know what I whatever you want
Speaker 1: to say, like it's there's not a lot of money
Speaker 1: in it at all. It's it's you know, sometimes I
Speaker 1: feel like I'm beating a dead horse in the fact that,
Speaker 1: like you know, I can't make any traction on social
Speaker 1: you know, or what you know, Like just like you said,
Speaker 1: like you know, like bay videos will get three hundred,
Speaker 1: four hundred, five hundred views, maybe a thousand, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. Like it's it's it's uh, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't want to give up. And I'm the same
Speaker 1: as you. Like my audio podcast does a lot better,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, And I do better on Rumble,
Speaker 1: But like I don't understand it because like when you
Speaker 1: compare like what you and I are doing to some
Speaker 1: of these other people, you know what, I think we're
Speaker 1: just as good as them. I don't think they have
Speaker 1: more talent than us. But one thing that you did
Speaker 1: say that I absolutely stands out is that we cover
Speaker 1: more controversial stuff than they do, and that they that
Speaker 1: they probably don't like that problem.
Speaker 3: Mostly that's the that's the target, right there is dangerous
Speaker 3: material for the ruling as things that expose some of
Speaker 3: the most important things that they don't want you to know.
Speaker 3: And it's very interesting because we have the new mainstream
Speaker 3: alternative media, Tucker Carlson, candas Oh and even Alex Jones.
Speaker 3: I would consider part of that a bit, but they
Speaker 3: are allowed, especially Candace and Tucker. They are allowed to
Speaker 3: get millions and millions of views talking about things that
Speaker 3: are very they can be very dangerous topics, and I
Speaker 3: have to wonder why that's being allowed for those people,
Speaker 3: and you know, it's probably because they are They don't
Speaker 3: mind certain information getting out right now. And this gets
Speaker 3: into something else that revelation of the method is in
Speaker 3: full swing because they're allowing it all to come out.
Speaker 3: And this goes back to what I said earlier about decentization.
Speaker 3: The more we become aware of what they're doing, the
Speaker 3: more desensitized everything is. Because there's no justice being served,
Speaker 3: there's no arrests. Everybody's being able to carry on at
Speaker 3: the highest levels just like they were so that causes
Speaker 3: demoralization and the people. And this goes back to em
Speaker 3: ultra as well, because it's mk ultra on all of us.
Speaker 3: So the more information they just throw at us at
Speaker 3: such a pace that they've been doing at this rapid pace,
Speaker 3: the quicker we get desensitized to everything. Then that opens
Speaker 3: up more doors for them to continue the psychological operations
Speaker 3: and the manipulation and every all the things that keep
Speaker 3: us in this matrix system.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I follow I watch Alex Jones sometimes, I
Speaker 1: watch Canvae sometimes, like you know, like but like you
Speaker 1: know what what's interesting is like you know, they'll they'll
Speaker 1: push like narratives, like you know, like they'll be I
Speaker 1: notice this in a lot of conservative media, like and
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, I'm not that I favor the
Speaker 1: lap the left, the insane. They're both. They're both bad,
Speaker 1: you know, but i mean, like I know they're in
Speaker 1: conservative me and now they're pushed in the midterms, the midterms.
Speaker 1: I'm like, listen, this is where I'm at with this.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'll never vote again ever. I mean it,
Speaker 1: just like I don't think we're ever getting anybody unless
Speaker 1: we tear down the whole system and rebuild it brand new.
Speaker 1: I don't think we're ever getting anybody in there.
Speaker 3: That's going to be suitable for us, you know, no,
Speaker 3: one hundred percent. I don't, you know, even pay attention
Speaker 3: to politics. I haven't in a very long time. I'm
Speaker 3: much happier in all the years that I haven't even
Speaker 3: worried about it. The only time it comes into play
Speaker 3: if there's some major conspiracy unfolding at higher levels. We
Speaker 3: talk about that aspect of it, the corruption aspect, which
Speaker 3: is most of it when you look deep. But I
Speaker 3: think politics is pure theater to keep us divided and
Speaker 3: hating each other. It's one of the biggest error is there.
Speaker 3: But did you want to get into some of the
Speaker 3: wilder testimonies, rituals, things that some of the victims have
Speaker 3: exposed that they've been Uh, we just had.
Speaker 1: A real quick question from the this is this is
Speaker 1: this is from kits Ala. He says, what does Chris
Speaker 1: think social media companies are able to earn? But why
Speaker 1: Chris wait, I'm I'm trying to see where he says,
Speaker 1: why does Chris thin social media companies are able to
Speaker 1: earn billions? I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I mean they you know, most billionaires again are groomed
Speaker 3: from either a very early age or you can take
Speaker 3: the Jeff Bezos story, the Mark Zuckerberg story. All of
Speaker 3: these people were chosen to be in positions and none
Speaker 3: of they were None of them were naturally working out
Speaker 3: of their garage as a young kid and you know,
Speaker 3: becoming millionaires in early age because they worked hard. They
Speaker 3: were chosen by DARPA, these military institutions, three letter agencies
Speaker 3: to be the face of these social media companies. And
Speaker 3: you know Elon Musk, he's he's a face, but I
Speaker 3: think he also has a bit of deeper influence. But
Speaker 3: there's many and there's many that just are that they're
Speaker 3: chosen so they can be a phase of the company.
Speaker 3: And the reason they're allowed to earn billions is because
Speaker 3: the billions are going to the government and these three
Speaker 3: letter agencies and they are helping build the infrastructure for
Speaker 3: this new world order that we are in the process
Speaker 3: of entering.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and this was a quick question from Jason. Jason says,
Speaker 1: would you fill out stuff with the local actions? I
Speaker 1: don't think I will. I don't have no interest this.
Speaker 3: I would have to say yes, because there are certain
Speaker 3: local levels that in my perspective may not have been
Speaker 3: infiltrated yet. But I could be being naive there, I
Speaker 3: really could they could it. It could be all just
Speaker 3: screwed and we you know, there's no way to get
Speaker 3: any kind of honest voting going. But at this point,
Speaker 3: I still occasionally do the the Lowe office if someone,
Speaker 3: if I see someone that's really trying to make a
Speaker 3: difference in there. But yeah, it could could be all
Speaker 3: fake and gay and yeah, I.
Speaker 1: Love that term. That's that's hilarious. But this is one
Speaker 1: more good one real quick. This is from my Blue Riders,
Speaker 1: he said Derek, my friend Derek. He is another moderator.
Speaker 1: He says, prayers for Indiana. Okay, someone asked about this.
Speaker 1: I'm sure you heard about Indiana. It's like mass flooding.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, the mass.
Speaker 1: Fires on the West coast. Do you think this is
Speaker 1: weaponized weather?
Speaker 3: It could be. See, these are the things that I
Speaker 3: you know, speculation is the only thing we have. We
Speaker 3: can talk to some experts, people who study this stuff
Speaker 3: to get their theories and thoughts, but I don't know
Speaker 3: if we'll ever know. I don't know if it's I
Speaker 3: do know that weather manipulation is one hundred percent possible.
Speaker 3: I do know that they do intentionally destroy things and
Speaker 3: start fires, So could it be.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, Well, yeah, you said we were gonna you
Speaker 1: wanted to get into some of these like more sure.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So I started doing MK ultra shows a long
Speaker 3: time ago, and the testimony from some of these people
Speaker 3: is so horrific. I'm not going to repeat, but they've
Speaker 3: they have some wild stuff that they've discussed that they
Speaker 3: have been through. The first that comes to mind, have
Speaker 3: you ever had J Parker on? J Parker?
Speaker 1: No, No, I don't know. For some reason, I have
Speaker 1: not had him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've only had him on once. It was a
Speaker 3: very long time ago, and his story is so traumatizing
Speaker 3: and insane that it's very difficult to hear. But he
Speaker 3: was talking about he was he was born into this
Speaker 3: like Illuminati family and from a very early age he
Speaker 3: was groomed through Satanic rituals. They were more into the
Speaker 3: witchcraft side of everything. They really did believe in this stuff.
Speaker 3: And when he was about five, I believe, though maybe earlier,
Speaker 3: either five or six, somewhere around there, they had him
Speaker 3: with another little girl and they were making them do
Speaker 3: like sexual things, and then they drugged them. They both
Speaker 3: passed out and when Jay woke up again, he's a
Speaker 3: little kid. He saw the girl that he was just,
Speaker 3: the little girl that he was just with dismembered. Oh god,
Speaker 3: And they said, look what you did to her. I
Speaker 3: can't believe you did that to her. And you know,
Speaker 3: imagine what what that would do to a kid. And
Speaker 3: they were trying to say that, you know, he did that,
Speaker 3: and he knew he didn't do it, but they were
Speaker 3: trying to traumatize him to believe that. That's just part
Speaker 3: of the dissociation rituals that they do to traumatize a
Speaker 3: person enough to where they either lead their body or
Speaker 3: they start alternate personalities. That's another big part of this,
Speaker 3: to create alternate personalities, and each of those can be
Speaker 3: called upon at any time. They can. The alternate personality
Speaker 3: can serve purposes like an assassin, a honeysex pot, a spy,
Speaker 3: anything that they want to room that person for. This
Speaker 3: is another aspect they program alters to take over that
Speaker 3: person for certain positions. Is it it's disgusting and insane
Speaker 3: that it's that this really happens, but it does. He
Speaker 3: was also saying, this is a Parker again that they
Speaker 3: had a ritual where they were in this sort of
Speaker 3: like black mass in an underground and a basement and
Speaker 3: they he said that they summoned this being of light
Speaker 3: right in front of them that was like dancing around
Speaker 3: and yeah, dude, he said that they were communicate. He
Speaker 3: said that it was like, you know, dancing around the
Speaker 3: room and a real manifestation, which is pretty wild. But
Speaker 3: another another situation that happened was doctor juliet Ingele said
Speaker 3: that hers was also focused heavily in the occult, her experimentation,
Speaker 3: whatever that she went through, but it was also espionage
Speaker 3: side too. She had a little bit of both. One
Speaker 3: of the earliest things they did to get her to
Speaker 3: dissociate was they had these uh, flat circles that they
Speaker 3: would strap her onto and it would spin around like
Speaker 3: will of fortune, and they would just spin her around
Speaker 3: as fast as she could until she couldn't take it anymore.
Speaker 3: And she said they killed a few kids doing this
Speaker 3: because it's just so brutal the way they did it.
Speaker 3: But she claims that they would do it until this
Speaker 3: green mist would come out of the child's mouth and
Speaker 3: they would capture it somehow, and they said that they
Speaker 3: were capturing the children's soul and they would be able
Speaker 3: to they would be able to replace it with some
Speaker 3: kind of demonic entity that would take over that children.
Speaker 3: So if they wouldn't you know, actually exit this realm
Speaker 3: from having that done to him, they would, she claims,
Speaker 3: this myst would come out of their mouth and they
Speaker 3: would have something else take their place. So it's unbelieve
Speaker 3: some of this stuff, man, and the espionage side of
Speaker 3: doctor ingall's experiences, they this is wild man. You got
Speaker 3: to ask her about this. A lot of her training
Speaker 3: and her experimentation was done underneath Disneyland.
Speaker 1: Holy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they have under underground facilities for these black operations
Speaker 3: under Disneyland. And the reason is they had operations going
Speaker 3: on all the time in the park itself, and they
Speaker 3: would use her for some of these operations, such as
Speaker 3: she was about seven to twelve years old, and she
Speaker 3: would find a dad, a family man away from his
Speaker 3: family and kids, and she would basically seduce him, get
Speaker 3: him to go on the rides, and they would take
Speaker 3: pictures of the people and you know, her seducing him
Speaker 3: and getting him to do things with her, and those
Speaker 3: pictures would then be used to black mailed that person.
Speaker 3: They'd find him, they would uh you know, present him
Speaker 3: the evidence and used to then you got a new agent.
Speaker 3: He can do stuff for you. So that's another uh
Speaker 3: wild as part of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna I gotta check my calendar see
Speaker 1: when she's gone, because what happened. Lady emailed me about her.
Speaker 1: But like you know, I'm sure you have this too,
Speaker 1: Like agents will send you like interviews. That's what happened.
Speaker 1: You know, an agent sent me the interview, so I
Speaker 1: think it's next week. But well, I can't even imagine.
Speaker 1: It's like it's it's crazy, you know, and you know,
Speaker 1: you know, that takes me back to that takes me
Speaker 1: back to a podcast I remember Gerald Clark did back
Speaker 1: in the day when he was on Rex's show. And
Speaker 1: Gerald said that a lot of times like you would
Speaker 1: have like these big sporting events, like you know, like
Speaker 1: the super Bowl, but he said, like underneath, they would
Speaker 1: be doing like rituals and stuff like that, like you know,
Speaker 1: which I don't. I totally believe that could be true.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's wild that they have this massive underground facility.
Speaker 3: They had many different uses for it, but and one
Speaker 3: of the levels they were taking kids down there and
Speaker 3: they were performing these rituals and experimentations. Another one was
Speaker 3: the I told you about the time travel. They also
Speaker 3: made her study this advanced music frequency theories, and she
Speaker 3: said she worked with record producers that were embedding these
Speaker 3: weird frequencies into popular albums that would go out. They
Speaker 3: were also performing rituals over the music, but it was
Speaker 3: mainly about writing music that would have a certain psychological
Speaker 3: effect and embedding certain tones into music. And that's the
Speaker 3: main part of the program that she was with. She
Speaker 3: learned a lot about music, and she was getting into
Speaker 3: higher levels working with record exects and stuff.
Speaker 1: Wow, and god, I put Chris's channel upad forbidding all
Speaker 1: his news go subscribe And uh yeah, dude, this is
Speaker 1: crazy man, Like I know, I just can't remember. I
Speaker 1: was going to ask you something else, like where are
Speaker 1: you at with the whole This is kind of up
Speaker 1: the but where are you at with the whole aliens thing?
Speaker 1: Like and like I mean, like are you are you
Speaker 1: like still think it's interdimensional or do you do you
Speaker 1: think like maybe Naska's line to us about what's going
Speaker 1: on in space or maybe a little bit of.
Speaker 3: Both or yes, No, I definitely think dasas lied to
Speaker 3: us for sure. I am still nowhere near having a
Speaker 3: solid foundation on extraterrestrials and UFOs. I have trouble connecting
Speaker 3: people's extraterrestrial experiences with some of the crafts that people
Speaker 3: see in the sky. I think there is a chance
Speaker 3: that a lot of that is separated and has nothing
Speaker 3: to do with each other. I'm sure some of it does.
Speaker 3: I'm sure there may be orbs or craft that have
Speaker 3: an effect on people, maybe abduct them in some way.
Speaker 3: But I do lean heavily towards a more metaphysical astral
Speaker 3: spiritual phenomenon. People that you know people. Most people's experiences
Speaker 3: they're taken at night, and there's one to one connections
Speaker 3: with people's physical supposed physical extraterrestrial and people's out of
Speaker 3: body sleep paralysis. Out of body experiences. People start tingling.
Speaker 3: They have the vibration for both experiences. They come out
Speaker 3: of their body, they either lift it up, some are
Speaker 3: taken to the side, but also out of body experiences.
Speaker 3: At times people are taken and they connect with the
Speaker 3: beings as well. People see the same manted beings and
Speaker 3: grays in psychedelic experiences, and that's another connector psychedelic experiences dreams.
Speaker 3: People will often encounter these same extraterrestrial beings that other
Speaker 3: people claim to have physical experiences with. I do think
Speaker 3: that a lot of people have these experiences and just
Speaker 3: don't remember them, like like most people do. I think
Speaker 3: there's a nefarious level too. It's connected with the gate
Speaker 3: NIMk Ultra where I've had I know you've had Vicki
Speaker 3: Joy Anderson, right, yeah, yeah, she she thinks that, you know,
Speaker 3: it's possible that they're hacking people's dreams. You know, some
Speaker 3: of these nefarious three letter agencies are hacking people's dreams
Speaker 3: and implanting things into their minds. But it's, uh, it's
Speaker 3: tough to pin down, you know, extraterrestrials, because you'll get
Speaker 3: those very compelling people that come on with adduction encounters
Speaker 3: or claim to have had these physical, real encounters with aliens,
Speaker 3: and their recall is very strong, and they seem like
Speaker 3: they believe they're experiences. So and then of course we
Speaker 3: have our government disclosure, which I think is complete dog shit.
Speaker 3: They're not showing us anything that any of us have
Speaker 3: ever seen before. I'm not sure if they're going to
Speaker 3: start rolling out any shockers anytime soon. But I think
Speaker 3: that's just another part of the desensitization. It's also an
Speaker 3: excuse for our military to introduce new technology, new drones,
Speaker 3: things of that nature. So this is or at least
Speaker 3: test them. We're an interesting time with disclosure.
Speaker 1: I'll say that, yeah, and and and I think anything
Speaker 1: too right because like it's like before there was AI,
Speaker 1: Like what we do some of the questions we're asking
Speaker 1: now we never asked before. But now it's like AI
Speaker 1: is bringing a whole new kind of like I don't
Speaker 1: know what you want to call it, like you know,
Speaker 1: experience into the mix, you know, like A.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think I could get around being extremely
Speaker 3: concerned about AI, no matter what is said about it,
Speaker 3: because the way it's already going and the interactions and
Speaker 3: relationships and reliance people have with it is already past
Speaker 3: the level where I feel comfortable with. There are people
Speaker 3: that have relationships with their like real relationships, Their AI
Speaker 3: is their girlfriend. But many people can't answer questions or
Speaker 3: do work or do anything creative without AI. They are
Speaker 3: outsourcing everything to AI. And it's not like some of
Speaker 3: these people are using AI so they can free up
Speaker 3: their mind to do something else more fantastic. No, they're
Speaker 3: just using AI for everything. And then the worst is
Speaker 3: the data centers, the emergent data centers that are being
Speaker 3: pushed through people are being high level people in different
Speaker 3: states are being paid off so to ensure that these
Speaker 3: data centers are going to get in place. What do
Speaker 3: these data centers do you ask? I have no idea.
Speaker 3: I don't think it has anything to do with AI.
Speaker 3: It may have something to do with data storage in
Speaker 3: a sense that iad Randy Weidenheimer and a couple of
Speaker 3: other guests that agree that they believe these data centers
Speaker 3: are storing our digital avatars and all the information connected
Speaker 3: to us, all the information that has ever been attached
Speaker 3: to our Internet, from the earliest fingerprint we ever had
Speaker 3: on the Internet. That's all data store that's connected with
Speaker 3: a digital avatar of that person. What they do with
Speaker 3: that is they learn from it. They run simulation so
Speaker 3: that they may be able to predict behaviors. Also, they
Speaker 3: have the pre crime aspect of this also, going back
Speaker 3: to the MK ultra, they know how to program a
Speaker 3: person much better if they have all their data and
Speaker 3: they know everything they're doing and it's not just computer data.
Speaker 3: These phones are listening to everything you're saying. You know,
Speaker 3: your TV is recording everything you're saying. They can get
Speaker 3: a clear image of you from any device. They know
Speaker 3: everywhere you're going. So it's not just the data you
Speaker 3: voluntarily put in there. It's everything you're doing as long
Speaker 3: as you have some kind of device around you that's
Speaker 3: building your data avatar partfolio that they're learning from that
Speaker 3: they're predicting, and hey, maybe they're even adjusting and causing
Speaker 3: things in your life to happen. Or it's very easy
Speaker 3: for something that you scroll the cross on your phone
Speaker 3: to make you extremely emotional or extremely scared, or change
Speaker 3: your trajectory for the day. If you find a certain
Speaker 3: article on the phone or something just happened, or you
Speaker 3: see a post about something distressing, that could change the
Speaker 3: whole trajectory of your day. Imagine if there's somewhat control
Speaker 3: over what you're seeing. You know, and there already is,
Speaker 3: you know, there is. They're listening. They're advertising to you
Speaker 3: as it is. You say something or you think something
Speaker 3: and then it'll show up on your phone. Yeah, they're
Speaker 3: already doing it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you think about the flock cameras. Have
Speaker 1: you have you looked into.
Speaker 3: That, Yes, this is another part of everything. I do
Speaker 3: enjoy the amount of people that are against the flock cameras,
Speaker 3: that are speaking out against it, that are destroying them,
Speaker 3: that are spray painting them. I don't condone any of that,
Speaker 3: but you know, people are going to do what they
Speaker 3: want to do. But I do enjoy that there is
Speaker 3: so much pushback against it, and I'm a bit optimistic
Speaker 3: about where everything could be going because we have a
Speaker 3: lot of cases going to the Supreme Court right now.
Speaker 3: It could go either way. I don't trust any court system,
Speaker 3: but they've made a few good decisions as it relates
Speaker 3: to privacy and uh, you know, privacy on a larger scale.
Speaker 3: So there's I may be a little bit of hope
Speaker 3: with the pushback that people have going against the flock cameras.
Speaker 3: But they're not just reading your license plate number. They
Speaker 3: can find a ding on your car, a dent, and
Speaker 3: they can identify your car by that dent.
Speaker 1: Yeah I heard. I heard they can do like biometrics
Speaker 1: on your eyes as well.
Speaker 3: Oh dude, yes, they could do everything. Yeah, it's it's wild.
Speaker 1: That's that's scary and you know, I'm glad to see
Speaker 1: that people are fighting against the data centers. Like when
Speaker 1: I when I heard that these data centers were like
Speaker 1: popping up, it really freaked me out because like, nobody
Speaker 1: asked our permission, you know what I mean. It was
Speaker 1: almost just like, oh, like we're gonna do this. We're
Speaker 1: gonna use a ton of your water, we're gonna turn
Speaker 1: your water to shit, we're gonna pollute the environment, and
Speaker 1: you don't have you can't say anything about it because
Speaker 1: you know, you you're the people, and you're the people
Speaker 1: are just peons and we know better. It's like it's
Speaker 1: like they think they know better for us. It's like
Speaker 1: they they it's like they have it all planned out
Speaker 1: and you know, and it's gonna work in their mind
Speaker 1: or you know, but it's not. It's not. It's it's
Speaker 1: like the people that are running this world are idiots.
Speaker 1: I mean, like, yeah, I've seen people's I've seen videos
Speaker 1: of people's water turning like completely brown and shit with
Speaker 1: these data centers. You know.
Speaker 3: Some people even speculate that AI has been around for
Speaker 3: a lot longer than we could have ever imagined, that
Speaker 3: they've been using AI, possibly to plan some of the
Speaker 3: global domination. Some believe it's since the thirties or forties.
Speaker 3: That's kind of a tough one for me to wrap
Speaker 3: my remind around. But if we have technology that's many
Speaker 3: years ahead of anything that the public is aware of,
Speaker 3: I know that they're already have advanced DAI that we
Speaker 3: have no idea about, that they've been using for much
Speaker 3: longer than AI has been available to us. So some
Speaker 3: speculate it they've had they've had wild technology for a
Speaker 3: very long time that they've been using for nefarious purposes.
Speaker 3: You look back to some of the massive events that
Speaker 3: were only seeing for most people on television. You know,
Speaker 3: could it be that they've been orchestrating these false flag
Speaker 3: operations for a very long time. I wouldn't doubt it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, this was amazing. I thought this was a
Speaker 1: great show. Yeah, do you want to tell everybody where
Speaker 1: they can find you? And yeah, thanks man, I thought
Speaker 1: this was awesome.
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Speaker 1: No, yeah, this was awesome, and yeah, thank you everybody
Speaker 1: for tuning in today. And yeah, and I will see
Speaker 1: you guys later. And thanks Chris, and good night everyone,
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