WEBVTT 1 00:00:14.160 --> 00:00:16.399 You're watching brand new Faces. I'm your host, Matt, and 2 00:00:16.440 --> 00:00:19.160 I'm joined tonight by a very special guest. You can 3 00:00:19.199 --> 00:00:23.320 find her on Twitter at the dear phon on only 4 00:00:23.440 --> 00:00:26.480 fans at deer Phon and I want to send you 5 00:00:26.480 --> 00:00:30.039 over somewhere. We don't normally send guests or audience members 6 00:00:30.039 --> 00:00:34.600 from guests twitch at deer x Fahn my guest today, 7 00:00:34.719 --> 00:00:36.600 as if you didn't guess it from the user names 8 00:00:36.600 --> 00:00:40.079 on everything else, dear Phon, deer Fawn, how are you today? 9 00:00:40.759 --> 00:00:43.719 I am doing excellent. How are you good? I just 10 00:00:43.759 --> 00:00:45.880 want to call you phone so badly, though. 11 00:00:46.320 --> 00:00:50.039 Faun is actually fine because again the name is just 12 00:00:50.039 --> 00:00:53.119 just for people not realizing I'm just listening. It's de 13 00:00:53.399 --> 00:00:56.799 a R Faun. But fun is a baby de e 14 00:00:57.399 --> 00:01:00.399 r So I was just being punny, but that you 15 00:01:00.399 --> 00:01:01.240 can just call me fon. 16 00:01:01.520 --> 00:01:05.200 Holy shit, I am dumb because I did not even 17 00:01:05.280 --> 00:01:07.480 pick up on. I mean, like, I know the word deer. 18 00:01:07.519 --> 00:01:09.680 I'm aware of the word deer and the plurals and 19 00:01:09.719 --> 00:01:14.319 everything else of it. D e A R Fawn Twitter, 20 00:01:14.760 --> 00:01:18.680 the deer Fawn OnlyFans at deer Fawn Twitch. Dear x 21 00:01:18.719 --> 00:01:21.480 Fawn links to everything in the episode description as always. 22 00:01:21.959 --> 00:01:24.200 Bare minimum you can do for these folks, these creators 23 00:01:24.239 --> 00:01:27.040 is at least follow them on the free sites. Bare minimum. 24 00:01:27.159 --> 00:01:29.439 Next step payday rolls around, you go, oh, does my 25 00:01:29.519 --> 00:01:32.159 kid need lunch next week? No, you need a subscription 26 00:01:32.280 --> 00:01:38.400 only fans, Dear faun, I'm gonna start with the third 27 00:01:38.480 --> 00:01:40.680 rudest question you can ask, and feel free to lie 28 00:01:40.680 --> 00:01:43.040 about it if you like. Okay, you're more than welcome 29 00:01:43.079 --> 00:01:45.439 to The first rude is question that I've seen asked 30 00:01:45.480 --> 00:01:48.680 to a woman in real life, and the other day 31 00:01:48.719 --> 00:01:51.239 I presented it like that and a performer answered the 32 00:01:51.239 --> 00:01:53.640 first two questions, not looking for the first two answers here. 33 00:01:53.920 --> 00:01:56.680 The first rudest question I've ever seen someone ask someone 34 00:01:57.120 --> 00:01:59.920 a woman was are you pregnant? And that was terrible. 35 00:02:00.640 --> 00:02:02.840 The next rudius question you could probably ask somebody is 36 00:02:02.879 --> 00:02:06.599 how much do you weigh? Terribly rude, specifically for me 37 00:02:06.840 --> 00:02:10.240 and certain women. The third rude is question, can I 38 00:02:10.319 --> 00:02:11.400 ask how old you are? 39 00:02:13.159 --> 00:02:13.280 So? 40 00:02:13.800 --> 00:02:18.599 I have answers locked and loaded here because I get 41 00:02:18.599 --> 00:02:22.360 asked this question often. Obviously, I always tell people that 42 00:02:22.439 --> 00:02:25.000 I am eternal but not maternal, so don't call me 43 00:02:25.080 --> 00:02:27.159 mommy unless you want me to fuck your dad. 44 00:02:28.800 --> 00:02:31.240 There you go. That's a fair answer. I'll accept you 45 00:02:32.639 --> 00:02:35.879 let me all right. I don't know how old you are, eternal, 46 00:02:35.960 --> 00:02:39.080 so maybe you remember like nineties two thousand, rap at All. 47 00:02:39.759 --> 00:02:41.560 I used to listen to it and they would talk 48 00:02:41.560 --> 00:02:43.599 about and I'd be like thirty six twenty foot and 49 00:02:43.639 --> 00:02:45.319 I was like, yeah, that girl's thick. I don't know 50 00:02:45.319 --> 00:02:47.800 what the fuck that means, though, So I've created my 51 00:02:47.879 --> 00:02:50.159 own measurements on this show, and I'm hoping maybe you 52 00:02:50.159 --> 00:02:52.759 could help me answer them. Can I ask what your 53 00:02:52.800 --> 00:02:56.080 height is? Yes, I'm five point seven, okay. Can I 54 00:02:56.080 --> 00:02:59.159 ask what your cup size on your lovely breasts are? Oh? 55 00:02:59.199 --> 00:03:02.680 Thank you, thank you. They are somewhere between double and 56 00:03:02.800 --> 00:03:06.000 triple D, which I think is E at that point. 57 00:03:06.280 --> 00:03:08.919 Okay. I don't know how American letters work necessarily, so 58 00:03:09.000 --> 00:03:12.319 that's fine. I'm just kidding. I am American. And let 59 00:03:12.319 --> 00:03:15.240 me last last measurement for my foot guys out there, 60 00:03:15.240 --> 00:03:17.919 not necessarily my thing, but we represent everybody who's not 61 00:03:17.960 --> 00:03:20.560 a total creep. What is your shoe size? 62 00:03:20.759 --> 00:03:23.199 Yes, we got to support visibility for our book. Guys. 63 00:03:23.240 --> 00:03:26.479 My shoe size in the US is eight and a half. 64 00:03:26.719 --> 00:03:28.639 I don't know what that translates everywhere else, but it 65 00:03:28.719 --> 00:03:29.400 is eight and a half? 66 00:03:29.560 --> 00:03:32.280 Okay, wonderful? Is that that's what I've been getting a 67 00:03:32.280 --> 00:03:34.719 lot lately? Is that about average for a woman? I 68 00:03:34.719 --> 00:03:36.560 think my wife's an eight or an eight and a half. 69 00:03:36.759 --> 00:03:40.439 Yeah, it's very very average. Okay, okay, fair it means 70 00:03:40.439 --> 00:03:43.039 that all of my favorite shoes are always out of stock. 71 00:03:43.560 --> 00:03:47.520 That's yeah. My cousin, we're sixteen growing up, so he 72 00:03:47.560 --> 00:03:50.240 always had his pick when they actually made him that big. 73 00:03:50.479 --> 00:03:52.280 True. I was gonna say, interesting, since they make them 74 00:03:52.280 --> 00:03:52.599 that big. 75 00:03:52.719 --> 00:03:57.439 Yeah, yeah, that's fair. Take me through how you get 76 00:03:57.879 --> 00:04:01.840 from wherever you were previous to coming into this industry 77 00:04:02.000 --> 00:04:05.639 to coming into this industry, and what form you see 78 00:04:05.639 --> 00:04:08.520 yourself taking in this industry. So walk me through when 79 00:04:08.560 --> 00:04:10.960 you go, my life is vanilla, fucking I ain't doing 80 00:04:11.000 --> 00:04:13.759 this anymore, and we take the jump. 81 00:04:14.280 --> 00:04:17.160 You know. So my life has never been really all 82 00:04:17.199 --> 00:04:21.959 that ordinary. I grew up in well half of my life. 83 00:04:21.959 --> 00:04:24.439 I grew up in this very Mormon town. I am 84 00:04:24.480 --> 00:04:28.079 not Mormon, obviously, and or maybe that isn't obvious. I 85 00:04:28.120 --> 00:04:30.240 don't know. I don't know many Mormons doing this, but 86 00:04:30.319 --> 00:04:34.000 who knows. But I did. It was a tiny like 87 00:04:34.160 --> 00:04:37.199 way off the grid, not in Utah though, so don't 88 00:04:37.199 --> 00:04:41.279 go looking for it. But anyway, so yeah, I I 89 00:04:41.319 --> 00:04:44.600 sort of grew up pretty naive about stuff. And I 90 00:04:44.600 --> 00:04:48.120 remember one of my first boyfriends had so this might 91 00:04:48.120 --> 00:04:51.480 start telling people my age. He had a bunch of 92 00:04:51.519 --> 00:04:56.480 like suicide girls sets on his computer and at the time, 93 00:04:56.680 --> 00:04:59.399 you know, I listened to you know, this also might 94 00:04:59.439 --> 00:05:01.360 tell people my I listened to a lot of like, 95 00:05:01.399 --> 00:05:05.160 you know, the the old school emo music, and so 96 00:05:05.240 --> 00:05:08.360 I was kind of alternative in my heart, but I wasn't. 97 00:05:08.920 --> 00:05:11.680 I didn't like show it outward because I was pretty naive. 98 00:05:11.759 --> 00:05:14.480 So I see these suicide girls and I was like, 99 00:05:15.000 --> 00:05:17.480 what is this? And I kind of actually freaked out 100 00:05:17.480 --> 00:05:19.160 at the time because I thought, you know, since I 101 00:05:19.279 --> 00:05:22.360 was I had ginger hair, and I was very like 102 00:05:22.720 --> 00:05:24.720 preppy at the time, you know, I was the kind 103 00:05:24.759 --> 00:05:27.360 of gal that wore the like popped collared you know, 104 00:05:27.600 --> 00:05:30.120 like shirts. Again, this is all given my age way, 105 00:05:30.240 --> 00:05:33.120 but I like to be mysterious about that. But anyway, 106 00:05:33.319 --> 00:05:35.759 so I was kind of frightened actually about some of 107 00:05:35.759 --> 00:05:38.360 these girls because they were covered in tattoos. For anybody 108 00:05:38.399 --> 00:05:41.079 who can't see I have some tattoos. I've got some tattoos, 109 00:05:41.319 --> 00:05:45.240 you know, south of the border, and I've I've got 110 00:05:45.240 --> 00:05:48.240 purple hair now, and you know, I've moved into my 111 00:05:48.279 --> 00:05:53.720 alternative persona. But at the time I was, I was frightened, 112 00:05:53.800 --> 00:05:55.839 I was intrigued. I was like, is this what I'm 113 00:05:55.839 --> 00:05:59.439 supposed to look like? You know, et cetera. And as 114 00:05:59.519 --> 00:06:01.879 I but you know, again, like I say, I was 115 00:06:01.879 --> 00:06:06.720 going to a lot of these like alternative events, shows, concerts, 116 00:06:06.720 --> 00:06:09.639 et cetera, and so I started to like really look 117 00:06:09.720 --> 00:06:15.079 towards that you know, taboo lifestyle, and I really wanted 118 00:06:15.079 --> 00:06:16.759 to be one of these suicide girls. Now, I never 119 00:06:16.879 --> 00:06:19.920 became a suicide girl just for you know, reasons of 120 00:06:19.959 --> 00:06:24.839 like the how they do business. But I really always 121 00:06:24.920 --> 00:06:30.480 wanted to do like something erotic. And at first it 122 00:06:30.519 --> 00:06:34.279 started kind of as a as a side quest, if 123 00:06:34.279 --> 00:06:37.879 you will. Like I did a few nude shoots, mainly 124 00:06:37.959 --> 00:06:42.160 artistic nude shoots, and I had a lot of body dysmorphia. 125 00:06:42.279 --> 00:06:44.720 And I remember the first time I did you know, 126 00:06:44.800 --> 00:06:47.480 these nude shoots, I like finally saw myself and there 127 00:06:47.519 --> 00:06:51.480 was something like about that distance between like the mirror 128 00:06:52.000 --> 00:06:54.879 and these photos that I was like, wait a second, 129 00:06:54.879 --> 00:06:56.399 this is not how I thought I looked. So I 130 00:06:56.439 --> 00:07:00.279 remember thinking, gosh, like maybe I'm prettier than I thought. 131 00:07:00.319 --> 00:07:02.600 I don't know, like it was healing something mentally for me. 132 00:07:03.680 --> 00:07:06.199 And then I started getting into because I never wanted 133 00:07:06.720 --> 00:07:08.720 mostly because I'm clumsy, and I also don't want there 134 00:07:08.800 --> 00:07:12.839 to be like direct interaction with clients. I didn't want 135 00:07:12.839 --> 00:07:16.480 to do like stripping. I can't wear the heels, sorry, everybody, 136 00:07:16.519 --> 00:07:18.120 like I just and again, I didn't want people to 137 00:07:18.160 --> 00:07:20.879 be in my hometown or like no, not because like 138 00:07:20.920 --> 00:07:23.000 I don't mind, I don't mind people knowing that I 139 00:07:23.040 --> 00:07:25.079 do adult work. I just don't want to be so 140 00:07:25.279 --> 00:07:27.120 close to it in my community. So I was like, 141 00:07:27.120 --> 00:07:30.000 well what about webcaming and and so I started there 142 00:07:30.120 --> 00:07:32.879 and then eventually moved into content creation. As you know, 143 00:07:32.920 --> 00:07:34.600 things like OnlyFans really took off. 144 00:07:35.000 --> 00:07:37.879 Okay, what was it? So you threw a lot out there? 145 00:07:37.959 --> 00:07:41.160 Let me ask. First off, my first concert I ever 146 00:07:41.199 --> 00:07:43.079 went to in eighth grade was Blink one eighty two 147 00:07:43.079 --> 00:07:47.040 and Green Day, So we're probably we're probably in a range, 148 00:07:47.120 --> 00:07:50.879 perhaps you think, yes, okay, fair enough, Yeah, my. 149 00:07:50.879 --> 00:07:53.920 First concert was not anything like that. It was this 150 00:07:53.959 --> 00:07:55.720 is gonna make me sound a hundred, but it was 151 00:07:55.920 --> 00:07:58.639 definitely not like of my era. But my very first 152 00:07:58.639 --> 00:07:59.959 concert was the Moody. 153 00:07:59.759 --> 00:08:02.399 Blue Okay, all right, they're gonna say like Hall of 154 00:08:02.480 --> 00:08:05.360 Notes or something. Even narrow it down a little more. 155 00:08:05.519 --> 00:08:10.959 Go oh, she's a Philly Mormon. Okay, it makes sense, right, No, yeah, 156 00:08:11.000 --> 00:08:14.000 Well we were all excited by Avril Levine when I 157 00:08:14.079 --> 00:08:16.560 was younger, so I get I was. I was fully 158 00:08:16.560 --> 00:08:18.879 in with what you're talking about. The punk crowd, the crowd, 159 00:08:18.959 --> 00:08:22.040 escape crowd. It was all kind of meshed together. There 160 00:08:22.079 --> 00:08:24.079 was some goth in there too, grown. 161 00:08:23.839 --> 00:08:26.600 Up and I identify more on the goth side of 162 00:08:26.680 --> 00:08:29.639 things these days. But I started in that genre that 163 00:08:29.680 --> 00:08:30.759 you're talking about for sure. 164 00:08:31.000 --> 00:08:33.120 So let me ask you. And here's the thing. I 165 00:08:33.200 --> 00:08:35.440 was going through Catholic school while all of this came up, 166 00:08:35.480 --> 00:08:38.120 and it was such a great like outlet, like a release, 167 00:08:38.200 --> 00:08:41.240 like a rebellion. Hey, this is what it so is 168 00:08:41.360 --> 00:08:45.039 that what you got it from. You grew up in 169 00:08:45.080 --> 00:08:47.240 a small Mormon community. You might have pointed out, and 170 00:08:48.039 --> 00:08:51.639 you did point out. You might have pointed out, you 171 00:08:51.720 --> 00:08:52.240 pointed that. 172 00:08:53.720 --> 00:08:55.720 Maybe it happened, it didn't happen. 173 00:08:55.519 --> 00:08:58.120 It's it's it's just all the interviews I do, it 174 00:08:58.200 --> 00:09:00.559 either starts one of two. It's always like I grew 175 00:09:00.639 --> 00:09:02.799 up in this small community and it was either I 176 00:09:02.840 --> 00:09:06.559 needed to rebel and push out or I was closeted 177 00:09:06.600 --> 00:09:08.879 for so long that someone opened my eyes to rebel 178 00:09:08.960 --> 00:09:11.600 and push out, getting me into this industry. What do 179 00:09:11.639 --> 00:09:13.879 you think yours was a little closer to if you 180 00:09:13.879 --> 00:09:14.559 could say. 181 00:09:14.799 --> 00:09:17.960 I do think it's it's more of the like initial rebellion. 182 00:09:18.159 --> 00:09:22.279 It's funny to me though, because I also I started 183 00:09:22.320 --> 00:09:24.279 so even though like I wanted to rebel since I 184 00:09:24.360 --> 00:09:28.080 was a child, I I started in the industry really 185 00:09:28.279 --> 00:09:31.600 slowly and it's always been on my own terms, which 186 00:09:31.600 --> 00:09:34.240 I'm very thankful for, because I did want the rebellion 187 00:09:34.240 --> 00:09:37.039 when I was a teenager, but I was able to 188 00:09:37.399 --> 00:09:38.679 I don't know if it was just a stroke of 189 00:09:38.759 --> 00:09:40.799 luck on things, but I was able to really craft 190 00:09:40.919 --> 00:09:43.840 my own path instead of being like hoovered up by 191 00:09:44.200 --> 00:09:48.039 you know, predatory you know, porn producers or whatever, like 192 00:09:48.320 --> 00:09:50.840 you know, doing the barely legal thing. I never I 193 00:09:50.919 --> 00:09:54.600 never got into that level of the adult industry, even 194 00:09:54.639 --> 00:09:57.559 though I desperately wanted to rebel and I was actually 195 00:09:57.679 --> 00:10:00.519 quite naive about my rebellion. So I think that there 196 00:10:00.519 --> 00:10:04.960 were like very lucky moments in my journey with this. 197 00:10:05.279 --> 00:10:12.600 Sure, So were you always like, what's the term sexually ambitious? 198 00:10:12.919 --> 00:10:15.600 Or was that something that got turned on by again 199 00:10:15.679 --> 00:10:19.360 the alt lifestyle of this and that you saw. I mean, 200 00:10:19.399 --> 00:10:21.279 it sounds like you got turned on by it by 201 00:10:21.320 --> 00:10:23.960 the Burning Angels type girls, right or. 202 00:10:23.960 --> 00:10:26.320 Su as I grow sorry, sorry, I Burning Angels. Oh 203 00:10:26.320 --> 00:10:30.200 my gosh, a real broback, Holy Moly, eighth grade. I 204 00:10:30.240 --> 00:10:32.759 almost had my first sexual encounter with a girl. She 205 00:10:32.840 --> 00:10:35.080 was very interested in doing it with me. I was 206 00:10:35.159 --> 00:10:36.440 dating another girl at the time. 207 00:10:36.519 --> 00:10:39.519 She sucked. She went on to become a Burning Angel 208 00:10:39.519 --> 00:10:42.000 and broke breaks my heart every time talking about it. 209 00:10:42.039 --> 00:10:45.000 I love Joanna Angel. Shout out to you, Michael. I 210 00:10:45.120 --> 00:10:48.279 terrified her at Exotica three years ago. I walked up 211 00:10:48.320 --> 00:10:50.639 with my card and there was some distraction, so her 212 00:10:51.039 --> 00:10:54.240 security turned. I didn't do it because her security turned. 213 00:10:54.279 --> 00:10:57.200 I just I just was. It was in motion and 214 00:10:57.240 --> 00:10:58.879 I walk up and I go, Hi, how you doing 215 00:10:58.960 --> 00:11:00.279 joying it? I just wanted to give you my card 216 00:11:00.320 --> 00:11:03.600 and she looked at me like, get this fucking sasquatch away. 217 00:11:03.639 --> 00:11:07.559 From me. Someone please get this thing away. She is 218 00:11:07.639 --> 00:11:10.879 so tiny in real life. I'm sure she's tiny, but 219 00:11:10.960 --> 00:11:14.759 she's mighty. So yeah, much, very much so. The first 220 00:11:14.799 --> 00:11:17.720 thing you did was was streaming then chat. 221 00:11:18.519 --> 00:11:26.000 Yeah, basically, yeah, it was you know, the typical adult cams. 222 00:11:26.320 --> 00:11:28.000 I can't even remember the first one that I signed 223 00:11:28.039 --> 00:11:30.480 up for. I do remember my first experience on it, though, 224 00:11:30.480 --> 00:11:33.919 and I was like wow. And I'll get into that 225 00:11:33.919 --> 00:11:37.840 in a second, but I think the novelty because I 226 00:11:38.679 --> 00:11:41.240 am pretty To answer your initial question, I am pretty 227 00:11:41.279 --> 00:11:46.360 sexually ambitious, if you will. Like, I've always felt a 228 00:11:46.440 --> 00:11:50.039 little bit more on the fringe. And I don't mean 229 00:11:50.039 --> 00:11:52.000 that in like I've got some crazy kings, although you know, 230 00:11:52.000 --> 00:11:54.000 I've got some kinks and stuff, but it's more like 231 00:11:54.440 --> 00:11:57.960 I don't I don't find sex itself as much of 232 00:11:57.960 --> 00:12:00.360 a taboo, which is crazy coming from, you know, a 233 00:12:00.440 --> 00:12:03.519 religious town and background and whatnot. Even though again, like 234 00:12:03.559 --> 00:12:06.080 I say, my parents weren't explicitly Mormon or anything, but 235 00:12:06.120 --> 00:12:08.799 it was just all around me in the culture. It's 236 00:12:08.840 --> 00:12:11.879 weird for me. I just intellectually, I've never thought of 237 00:12:11.960 --> 00:12:16.720 sex as big of a deal as as like, cause 238 00:12:16.919 --> 00:12:18.720 it was one of those things where, you know, I 239 00:12:18.759 --> 00:12:21.600 was just like, I'm still not understanding, like what about 240 00:12:21.639 --> 00:12:24.120 this old book and Jesus that you know this guy 241 00:12:24.240 --> 00:12:26.200 nobody's ever met, Like I don't what are we talking 242 00:12:26.200 --> 00:12:27.679 about here? And I'm not trying to be you know, 243 00:12:27.759 --> 00:12:30.080 shitty to people that have faith. I'm just saying, like, 244 00:12:30.360 --> 00:12:35.120 logically speaking, sex never felt so out of line to me, 245 00:12:35.519 --> 00:12:37.919 as long as it's safe saying consensual, you know, all 246 00:12:37.960 --> 00:12:39.720 those sorts of things. You know, sex can be used 247 00:12:39.720 --> 00:12:43.480 as a weapon, but and and there are shameful aspects 248 00:12:43.480 --> 00:12:47.879 of things within that world, but just consensual, the act 249 00:12:48.039 --> 00:12:51.000 of sex never felt weird to me. So I think 250 00:12:51.000 --> 00:12:55.000 that's another reason why this always kind of it didn't 251 00:12:55.080 --> 00:12:57.200 I again, I just logically couldn't figure out what was 252 00:12:57.240 --> 00:13:00.840 so taboo even about and so like, even though I'm 253 00:13:00.840 --> 00:13:03.279 not exactly an exhibitionist, what I was just going on 254 00:13:03.320 --> 00:13:06.679 about about like coming to terms with my body and 255 00:13:06.799 --> 00:13:11.120 feeling because like most teenage girls and then into my 256 00:13:11.360 --> 00:13:15.960 you know, twenties and such, I don't I don't have 257 00:13:16.039 --> 00:13:19.080 like a very clear idea of what I really actually 258 00:13:19.159 --> 00:13:21.679 look like, even though the mirrors right there, like the 259 00:13:21.720 --> 00:13:25.320 mirror lie, the mirror lies to those with body dysmorphia, 260 00:13:25.399 --> 00:13:29.200 and so there was just something about the camera and 261 00:13:29.240 --> 00:13:32.279 there was something about the audience that really gave me 262 00:13:32.320 --> 00:13:36.240 a new perspective about both what my body really was 263 00:13:36.320 --> 00:13:39.080 presenting and you know, what I thought sex really was, 264 00:13:39.200 --> 00:13:40.639 and in a healthy way. 265 00:13:40.639 --> 00:13:44.799 Oddly enough, Sure, so when you jumped into camming and 266 00:13:44.840 --> 00:13:47.240 you said you didn't even remember the site necessarily right 267 00:13:47.279 --> 00:13:50.159 off the bat, did they did? Okay? What always fascinates 268 00:13:50.200 --> 00:13:52.559 me is the new girl bump where they hit a 269 00:13:52.600 --> 00:13:55.360 tag for new or whatever it is. Yes, and the 270 00:13:55.399 --> 00:13:58.720 first few days, you guys have four thousand people who 271 00:13:58.799 --> 00:14:01.879 are just oh my god, dear fon, she's so high. 272 00:14:01.879 --> 00:14:08.519 Blah blah blah blah. Did you eventually have the leveling out? 273 00:14:09.159 --> 00:14:11.799 And what does that feel like for like your psyche 274 00:14:11.919 --> 00:14:14.360 or your ego? Because again you're coming into this going 275 00:14:14.440 --> 00:14:18.240 like my body person, you're in your head, You're like, 276 00:14:18.600 --> 00:14:21.000 I don't know about my body. I'm looking and I go, 277 00:14:21.440 --> 00:14:23.679 I mean I would give limbs to be with a 278 00:14:23.720 --> 00:14:28.440 person like you. But did you have any kind of 279 00:14:28.480 --> 00:14:31.559 leveling off? Where did it slow down? And you had 280 00:14:31.600 --> 00:14:34.720 to reconsider any of that and then try moving into 281 00:14:34.759 --> 00:14:37.480 different avenues or different streams or whatever. 282 00:14:37.519 --> 00:14:41.000 It is definitely And I will say, so, you know, 283 00:14:41.120 --> 00:14:46.279 there is this misconception about, you know, this industry, especially 284 00:14:46.279 --> 00:14:49.000 for those that you know, kind of are on the 285 00:14:49.039 --> 00:14:52.120 outside looking in, assuming what the industry is like. So 286 00:14:52.320 --> 00:14:54.559 you do get those bumps, but those bumps don't usually 287 00:14:54.600 --> 00:14:57.559 even like translate into much money. It's it's it's more 288 00:14:57.759 --> 00:15:01.519 like a validation thing, and you know, like it's not 289 00:15:01.600 --> 00:15:04.600 it isn't it doesn't translate into money. And so it 290 00:15:04.639 --> 00:15:08.399 isn't just about showing your tits that like, because I 291 00:15:08.679 --> 00:15:11.519 do think that there's this idea that like, but if 292 00:15:11.559 --> 00:15:14.639 I'm just willing to show my tits and be sexual 293 00:15:14.639 --> 00:15:18.080 on camera, then that's that's the hurdle that we're getting over, 294 00:15:18.279 --> 00:15:20.159 is the willingness to do this. And I'm like, no, 295 00:15:20.200 --> 00:15:21.960 it's a lot of hard work, even if there's a 296 00:15:22.039 --> 00:15:24.399 lot of eyeballs on you. And there's something that I 297 00:15:24.480 --> 00:15:28.600 realized with that slump that happened was that actually, in 298 00:15:28.639 --> 00:15:31.399 some ways I kind of enjoyed that the noise was gone, 299 00:15:31.440 --> 00:15:33.879 and then there was like some more like what's the 300 00:15:33.919 --> 00:15:38.440 word I'm looking for? Serious? You were like my fandom 301 00:15:38.639 --> 00:15:40.759 narrowed down to who really wanted to be there. 302 00:15:40.879 --> 00:15:44.440 Your your audience concentrated, it was no longer there the 303 00:15:44.879 --> 00:15:47.960 water and the mist and the vapor around it. Because 304 00:15:47.960 --> 00:15:50.399 you're right, five thousand people come in your room that 305 00:15:50.440 --> 00:15:54.480 first day, and like forty nine hundred and seventy five 306 00:15:54.519 --> 00:15:57.639 have never spent a token on that shit, right, And. 307 00:15:57.559 --> 00:15:59.519 In fact, most of them are trying to, like, you know, 308 00:15:59.600 --> 00:16:03.519 get you onto telegrams so they can stam you whatever. 309 00:16:03.799 --> 00:16:07.120 They're trying to get freebies. They like have the the 310 00:16:07.120 --> 00:16:09.600 the scams where they literally copy and past something and 311 00:16:09.639 --> 00:16:12.000 it looks like they're tipping you in your room. 312 00:16:12.679 --> 00:16:15.679 Like now. Now, I don't want to get political, but 313 00:16:15.720 --> 00:16:18.200 folks out there, if you have a political candidate who 314 00:16:18.200 --> 00:16:21.759 wants to publicly execute online scammers, I will in fact 315 00:16:21.879 --> 00:16:25.240 vote for you, Okay, I yes, I anyone who goes 316 00:16:25.279 --> 00:16:28.679 into a chat room where a new girl is presenting 317 00:16:28.679 --> 00:16:31.440 her body and saying please, you know, engage with me, 318 00:16:31.480 --> 00:16:33.919 and you go, hmmm, I'd like to scam the shit 319 00:16:34.000 --> 00:16:41.000 out of that girl. Times Square anyway, agreed endorse Okay, 320 00:16:41.039 --> 00:16:44.799 fair enough. We rarely make political endorsements on the show, 321 00:16:44.840 --> 00:16:47.559 but I had to lay that one out there, so 322 00:16:47.600 --> 00:16:50.440 tell me, Okay, So here's the other thing we pitched 323 00:16:51.000 --> 00:16:54.840 twitch at the beginning. Again, that is, dear dear x fawn, 324 00:16:56.720 --> 00:16:59.080 what are you trying to move into now? Because again 325 00:16:59.200 --> 00:17:01.240 and links in the as a description, as always, I 326 00:17:01.279 --> 00:17:03.919 have your beacons up here, you have a link to everything. 327 00:17:04.359 --> 00:17:07.160 It looks like it looks it looks like you're putting 328 00:17:07.160 --> 00:17:08.960 your hands in everything. 329 00:17:09.519 --> 00:17:12.680 It kind of does, and I will I'm gonna, I'm gonna, 330 00:17:13.319 --> 00:17:15.799 especially for the fellow creators out there, I'm going to 331 00:17:15.839 --> 00:17:20.960 put out some tips here because there's a few things 332 00:17:21.000 --> 00:17:25.839 I've discovered. I would not be streaming individually to every 333 00:17:25.839 --> 00:17:27.799 single one of the cam sites that you see on 334 00:17:27.839 --> 00:17:30.440 my beacons if it weren't for it. There's a it's 335 00:17:30.519 --> 00:17:33.359 it's called Shine Browser. I'm not I'm not affiliated. I 336 00:17:33.359 --> 00:17:36.799 don't get any money for this, but it's called Shine Browser, 337 00:17:36.960 --> 00:17:40.680 and it like aggregates. And the problem is you can 338 00:17:40.839 --> 00:17:43.759 in obs or whatever you use, you can get like 339 00:17:44.640 --> 00:17:47.759 multi streaming plugins. The problem is is it draws directly 340 00:17:47.799 --> 00:17:50.119 and I know I'm gonna get really techy, it draws 341 00:17:50.160 --> 00:17:53.519 directly from your CPU, and so most computers can't handle it, 342 00:17:53.640 --> 00:17:57.519 and so most people don't multi stream. Whereas this browser 343 00:17:57.599 --> 00:18:00.000 does it from you know, their servers, so it doesn't 344 00:18:00.119 --> 00:18:02.440 take any strain off of your computer, and it has 345 00:18:02.559 --> 00:18:06.440 all of your chatters, all of your viewers in one window, 346 00:18:06.839 --> 00:18:09.079 so I can just see and it shows exactly where 347 00:18:09.079 --> 00:18:11.279 they're coming from. And then if you ever go private, 348 00:18:12.440 --> 00:18:15.119 then it shuts down whatever other sites you're on, says 349 00:18:15.119 --> 00:18:17.799 that you're in a private show on all of those sites. 350 00:18:18.079 --> 00:18:20.440 And so I just kind of like because different sites 351 00:18:20.440 --> 00:18:24.440 have different audiences, you know, there's some that cater more 352 00:18:24.480 --> 00:18:26.440 to Europe, there's some that cater more to the US, 353 00:18:26.480 --> 00:18:29.079 there's some that cater more towards you know, certain things. 354 00:18:29.519 --> 00:18:32.960 And so that's why I have it looks like I'm 355 00:18:32.960 --> 00:18:34.880 on a lot of things, but I'm actually just kind 356 00:18:34.880 --> 00:18:39.359 of multi streaming, you know, where I'm allowed. Obviously, there 357 00:18:39.359 --> 00:18:41.599 are some places that won't allow it, but there's plenty 358 00:18:41.640 --> 00:18:43.720 of sites that say, yeah, absolutely, go for it, friend, 359 00:18:44.000 --> 00:18:44.839 and so then I do. 360 00:18:45.160 --> 00:18:47.359 Well, my first piece of advice is go out and 361 00:18:47.359 --> 00:18:50.799 get yourself an affiliate link to whoever you were talking 362 00:18:50.799 --> 00:18:54.799 about right there, and I'll put it in. I'm sure 363 00:18:54.839 --> 00:18:56.839 you could just go apply for it, but here's what 364 00:18:56.880 --> 00:19:00.240 I would say. I totally understand what you're saying out 365 00:19:00.279 --> 00:19:02.799 between the cams and this and that, but you also 366 00:19:03.720 --> 00:19:06.359 it seems like you also touch your feet into other stuff, 367 00:19:06.400 --> 00:19:09.279 not just that genre. It's not just cam or maybe 368 00:19:09.279 --> 00:19:11.079 it is. Tell me what your room's like, because you're 369 00:19:11.079 --> 00:19:14.119 also on twitch Joystick. The only one I've ever and 370 00:19:14.279 --> 00:19:16.240 only person I've ever talked to that was on Joystick 371 00:19:16.240 --> 00:19:21.039 was Violet Myers, and that was a combination of sheil 372 00:19:22.640 --> 00:19:26.559 pause Joystick TV. What exactly is Joystick TV? 373 00:19:27.599 --> 00:19:32.000 So it it sort of it presents itself like it's 374 00:19:32.480 --> 00:19:37.359 the sexy Twitch. Okay, so it's supposed to be for gamers, 375 00:19:37.480 --> 00:19:41.079 cause players, you know, nerds, but you know that get 376 00:19:41.079 --> 00:19:42.119 freaky after dark. 377 00:19:42.279 --> 00:19:45.279 So okay, okay, so is it? Yeah, that's what it 378 00:19:45.319 --> 00:19:46.960 felt like to me. It felt like if I go 379 00:19:47.039 --> 00:19:50.319 from your Chatterbait or your myfree cams and then I 380 00:19:50.359 --> 00:19:52.279 still want to see the nudity, but like I'm into 381 00:19:52.359 --> 00:19:54.880 your life and like what you play or what you design, Yeah, 382 00:19:54.920 --> 00:19:56.680 your costumes and this and that. I'll go to the 383 00:19:56.759 --> 00:19:59.000 Joystick and it's like, oh, I'm all gooned out for 384 00:19:59.039 --> 00:20:00.920 the day. I'll just have a to her Twitch now 385 00:20:00.960 --> 00:20:03.079 and see what she's doing. Is that kind of the progression. 386 00:20:03.480 --> 00:20:05.240 Yeah, and you know, and again I don't want to 387 00:20:05.240 --> 00:20:08.720 get to like two in the weeds business oriented here, 388 00:20:08.759 --> 00:20:13.359 But the thing is is that a lot of especially 389 00:20:13.359 --> 00:20:16.039 if you're doing things that are like content creation related, 390 00:20:16.079 --> 00:20:17.960 which is where a lot of people want to focus 391 00:20:17.960 --> 00:20:20.440 their energy into OnlyFans and whatnot, you do need to 392 00:20:20.480 --> 00:20:24.240 create an audience somewhere, and oftentimes and usually there has 393 00:20:24.279 --> 00:20:26.960 to be that audience that isn't already. So if you 394 00:20:27.079 --> 00:20:30.400 try to create an OnlyFans audience through chatterbait, they're already 395 00:20:30.400 --> 00:20:32.799 on chatterbait. They're like, my tokens are here, why can't 396 00:20:32.799 --> 00:20:37.559 you get naked here? And so whereas Twitch and you know, 397 00:20:37.599 --> 00:20:39.799 the ones that are more safe for work, then you're 398 00:20:39.839 --> 00:20:41.319 going to have those people that are like, well she 399 00:20:41.400 --> 00:20:44.960 can't show her tits on Twitch, Well, there's the only fans. 400 00:20:45.000 --> 00:20:47.640 So there's kind of a funnel that happens there. On 401 00:20:47.680 --> 00:20:50.119