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Speaker 1: You're watching brand new Faces. I'm your host, Matt, and

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I'm joined tonight by a very special guest. You can

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find her on Twitter at the dear phon on only

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fans at deer Phon and I want to send you

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over somewhere. We don't normally send guests or audience members

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from guests twitch at deer x Fahn my guest today,

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as if you didn't guess it from the user names

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on everything else, dear Phon, deer Fawn, how are you today?

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I am doing excellent. How are you good? I just

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want to call you phone so badly, though.

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Speaker 2: Faun is actually fine because again the name is just

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just for people not realizing I'm just listening. It's de

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a R Faun. But fun is a baby de e

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r So I was just being punny, but that you

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Speaker 1: Holy shit, I am dumb because I did not even

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pick up on. I mean, like, I know the word deer.

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I'm aware of the word deer and the plurals and

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everything else of it. D e A R Fawn Twitter,

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the deer Fawn OnlyFans at deer Fawn Twitch. Dear x

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Fawn links to everything in the episode description as always.

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Bare minimum you can do for these folks, these creators

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is at least follow them on the free sites. Bare minimum.

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Next step payday rolls around, you go, oh, does my

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kid need lunch next week? No, you need a subscription

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only fans, Dear faun, I'm gonna start with the third

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rudest question you can ask, and feel free to lie

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about it if you like. Okay, you're more than welcome

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to The first rude is question that I've seen asked

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to a woman in real life, and the other day

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I presented it like that and a performer answered the

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first two questions, not looking for the first two answers here.

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The first rudest question I've ever seen someone ask someone

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a woman was are you pregnant? And that was terrible.

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The next rudius question you could probably ask somebody is

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how much do you weigh? Terribly rude, specifically for me

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and certain women. The third rude is question, can I

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ask how old you are?

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Speaker 3: So?

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Speaker 2: I have answers locked and loaded here because I get

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asked this question often. Obviously, I always tell people that

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I am eternal but not maternal, so don't call me

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mommy unless you want me to fuck your dad.

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Speaker 1: There you go. That's a fair answer. I'll accept you

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let me all right. I don't know how old you are, eternal,

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so maybe you remember like nineties two thousand, rap at All.

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I used to listen to it and they would talk

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about and I'd be like thirty six twenty foot and

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I was like, yeah, that girl's thick. I don't know

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what the fuck that means, though, So I've created my

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own measurements on this show, and I'm hoping maybe you

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could help me answer them. Can I ask what your

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height is? Yes, I'm five point seven, okay. Can I

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ask what your cup size on your lovely breasts are? Oh?

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Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you. They are somewhere between double and

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triple D, which I think is E at that point.

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Speaker 1: Okay. I don't know how American letters work necessarily, so

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that's fine. I'm just kidding. I am American. And let

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me last last measurement for my foot guys out there,

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not necessarily my thing, but we represent everybody who's not

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a total creep. What is your shoe size?

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Speaker 2: Yes, we got to support visibility for our book. Guys.

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My shoe size in the US is eight and a half.

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I don't know what that translates everywhere else, but it

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is eight and a half?

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Speaker 1: Okay, wonderful? Is that that's what I've been getting a

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lot lately? Is that about average for a woman? I

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think my wife's an eight or an eight and a half.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very very average. Okay, okay, fair it means

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that all of my favorite shoes are always out of stock.

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Speaker 1: That's yeah. My cousin, we're sixteen growing up, so he

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always had his pick when they actually made him that big.

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Speaker 2: True. I was gonna say, interesting, since they make them

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that big.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's fair. Take me through how you get

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from wherever you were previous to coming into this industry

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to coming into this industry, and what form you see

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yourself taking in this industry. So walk me through when

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you go, my life is vanilla, fucking I ain't doing

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this anymore, and we take the jump.

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Speaker 2: You know. So my life has never been really all

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that ordinary. I grew up in well half of my life.

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I grew up in this very Mormon town. I am

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not Mormon, obviously, and or maybe that isn't obvious. I

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don't know. I don't know many Mormons doing this, but

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who knows. But I did. It was a tiny like

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way off the grid, not in Utah though, so don't

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go looking for it. But anyway, so yeah, I I

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sort of grew up pretty naive about stuff. And I

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remember one of my first boyfriends had so this might

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start telling people my age. He had a bunch of

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like suicide girls sets on his computer and at the time,

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you know, I listened to you know, this also might

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tell people my I listened to a lot of like,

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you know, the the old school emo music, and so

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I was kind of alternative in my heart, but I wasn't.

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I didn't like show it outward because I was pretty naive.

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So I see these suicide girls and I was like,

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what is this? And I kind of actually freaked out

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at the time because I thought, you know, since I

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was I had ginger hair, and I was very like

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preppy at the time, you know, I was the kind

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of gal that wore the like popped collared you know,

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like shirts. Again, this is all given my age way,

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but I like to be mysterious about that. But anyway,

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so I was kind of frightened actually about some of

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these girls because they were covered in tattoos. For anybody

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who can't see I have some tattoos. I've got some tattoos,

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you know, south of the border, and I've I've got

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purple hair now, and you know, I've moved into my

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alternative persona. But at the time I was, I was frightened,

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I was intrigued. I was like, is this what I'm

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supposed to look like? You know, et cetera. And as

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I but you know, again, like I say, I was

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going to a lot of these like alternative events, shows, concerts,

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et cetera, and so I started to like really look

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towards that you know, taboo lifestyle, and I really wanted

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to be one of these suicide girls. Now, I never

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became a suicide girl just for you know, reasons of

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like the how they do business. But I really always

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wanted to do like something erotic. And at first it

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started kind of as a as a side quest, if

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you will. Like I did a few nude shoots, mainly

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artistic nude shoots, and I had a lot of body dysmorphia.

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And I remember the first time I did you know,

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these nude shoots, I like finally saw myself and there

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was something like about that distance between like the mirror

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and these photos that I was like, wait a second,

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this is not how I thought I looked. So I

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remember thinking, gosh, like maybe I'm prettier than I thought.

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I don't know, like it was healing something mentally for me.

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And then I started getting into because I never wanted

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mostly because I'm clumsy, and I also don't want there

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to be like direct interaction with clients. I didn't want

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to do like stripping. I can't wear the heels, sorry, everybody,

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like I just and again, I didn't want people to

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be in my hometown or like no, not because like

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I don't mind, I don't mind people knowing that I

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do adult work. I just don't want to be so

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close to it in my community. So I was like,

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well what about webcaming and and so I started there

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and then eventually moved into content creation. As you know,

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things like OnlyFans really took off.

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Speaker 1: Okay, what was it? So you threw a lot out there?

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Let me ask. First off, my first concert I ever

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went to in eighth grade was Blink one eighty two

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and Green Day, So we're probably we're probably in a range,

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perhaps you think, yes, okay, fair enough, Yeah, my.

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Speaker 2: First concert was not anything like that. It was this

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is gonna make me sound a hundred, but it was

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definitely not like of my era. But my very first

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concert was the Moody.

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Speaker 1: Blue Okay, all right, they're gonna say like Hall of

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Notes or something. Even narrow it down a little more.

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Go oh, she's a Philly Mormon. Okay, it makes sense, right, No, yeah,

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Well we were all excited by Avril Levine when I

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was younger, so I get I was. I was fully

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in with what you're talking about. The punk crowd, the crowd,

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escape crowd. It was all kind of meshed together. There

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was some goth in there too, grown.

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Speaker 2: Up and I identify more on the goth side of

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things these days. But I started in that genre that

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you're talking about for sure.

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Speaker 1: So let me ask you. And here's the thing. I

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was going through Catholic school while all of this came up,

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and it was such a great like outlet, like a release,

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like a rebellion. Hey, this is what it so is

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that what you got it from. You grew up in

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a small Mormon community. You might have pointed out, and

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you did point out. You might have pointed out, you

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pointed that.

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Speaker 2: Maybe it happened, it didn't happen.

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Speaker 1: It's it's it's just all the interviews I do, it

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either starts one of two. It's always like I grew

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up in this small community and it was either I

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needed to rebel and push out or I was closeted

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for so long that someone opened my eyes to rebel

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and push out, getting me into this industry. What do

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you think yours was a little closer to if you

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could say.

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Speaker 2: I do think it's it's more of the like initial rebellion.

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so even though like I wanted to rebel since I

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was a child, I I started in the industry really

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slowly and it's always been on my own terms, which

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I'm very thankful for, because I did want the rebellion

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when I was a teenager, but I was able to

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I don't know if it was just a stroke of

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luck on things, but I was able to really craft

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my own path instead of being like hoovered up by

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you know, predatory you know, porn producers or whatever, like

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you know, doing the barely legal thing. I never I

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never got into that level of the adult industry, even

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though I desperately wanted to rebel and I was actually

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quite naive about my rebellion. So I think that there

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were like very lucky moments in my journey with this.

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Speaker 1: Sure, So were you always like, what's the term sexually ambitious?

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Or was that something that got turned on by again

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the alt lifestyle of this and that you saw. I mean,

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it sounds like you got turned on by it by

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the Burning Angels type girls, right or.

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Speaker 4: Su as I grow sorry, sorry, I Burning Angels. Oh

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my gosh, a real broback, Holy Moly, eighth grade. I

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almost had my first sexual encounter with a girl. She

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was very interested in doing it with me. I was

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dating another girl at the time.

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Speaker 1: She sucked. She went on to become a Burning Angel

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and broke breaks my heart every time talking about it.

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I love Joanna Angel. Shout out to you, Michael. I

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terrified her at Exotica three years ago. I walked up

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with my card and there was some distraction, so her

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security turned. I didn't do it because her security turned.

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I just I just was. It was in motion and

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I walk up and I go, Hi, how you doing

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joying it? I just wanted to give you my card

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and she looked at me like, get this fucking sasquatch away.

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From me. Someone please get this thing away. She is

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so tiny in real life. I'm sure she's tiny, but

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she's mighty. So yeah, much, very much so. The first

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thing you did was was streaming then chat.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, basically, yeah, it was you know, the typical adult cams.

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I can't even remember the first one that I signed

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up for. I do remember my first experience on it, though,

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and I was like wow. And I'll get into that

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in a second, but I think the novelty because I

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am pretty To answer your initial question, I am pretty

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sexually ambitious, if you will. Like, I've always felt a

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little bit more on the fringe. And I don't mean

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that in like I've got some crazy kings, although you know,

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I've got some kinks and stuff, but it's more like

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I don't I don't find sex itself as much of

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a taboo, which is crazy coming from, you know, a

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religious town and background and whatnot. Even though again, like

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I say, my parents weren't explicitly Mormon or anything, but

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it was just all around me in the culture. It's

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weird for me. I just intellectually, I've never thought of

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sex as big of a deal as as like, cause

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it was one of those things where, you know, I

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was just like, I'm still not understanding, like what about

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this old book and Jesus that you know this guy

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nobody's ever met, Like I don't what are we talking

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about here? And I'm not trying to be you know,

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shitty to people that have faith. I'm just saying, like,

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logically speaking, sex never felt so out of line to me,

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as long as it's safe saying consensual, you know, all

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those sorts of things. You know, sex can be used

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as a weapon, but and and there are shameful aspects

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of things within that world, but just consensual, the act

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of sex never felt weird to me. So I think

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that's another reason why this always kind of it didn't

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I again, I just logically couldn't figure out what was

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so taboo even about and so like, even though I'm

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not exactly an exhibitionist, what I was just going on

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about about like coming to terms with my body and

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feeling because like most teenage girls and then into my

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you know, twenties and such, I don't I don't have

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like a very clear idea of what I really actually

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look like, even though the mirrors right there, like the

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mirror lie, the mirror lies to those with body dysmorphia,

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and so there was just something about the camera and

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there was something about the audience that really gave me

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a new perspective about both what my body really was

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presenting and you know, what I thought sex really was,

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and in a healthy way.

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Speaker 1: Oddly enough, Sure, so when you jumped into camming and

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you said you didn't even remember the site necessarily right

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off the bat, did they did? Okay? What always fascinates

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me is the new girl bump where they hit a

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tag for new or whatever it is. Yes, and the

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first few days, you guys have four thousand people who

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are just oh my god, dear fon, she's so high.

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Blah blah blah blah. Did you eventually have the leveling out?

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And what does that feel like for like your psyche

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or your ego? Because again you're coming into this going

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like my body person, you're in your head, You're like,

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I don't know about my body. I'm looking and I go,

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I mean I would give limbs to be with a

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person like you. But did you have any kind of

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leveling off? Where did it slow down? And you had

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to reconsider any of that and then try moving into

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different avenues or different streams or whatever.

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Speaker 2: It is definitely And I will say, so, you know,

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there is this misconception about, you know, this industry, especially

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for those that you know, kind of are on the

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outside looking in, assuming what the industry is like. So

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you do get those bumps, but those bumps don't usually

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even like translate into much money. It's it's it's more

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like a validation thing, and you know, like it's not

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it isn't it doesn't translate into money. And so it

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isn't just about showing your tits that like, because I

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do think that there's this idea that like, but if

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I'm just willing to show my tits and be sexual

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on camera, then that's that's the hurdle that we're getting over,

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is the willingness to do this. And I'm like, no,

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it's a lot of hard work, even if there's a

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lot of eyeballs on you. And there's something that I

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realized with that slump that happened was that actually, in

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some ways I kind of enjoyed that the noise was gone,

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and then there was like some more like what's the

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word I'm looking for? Serious? You were like my fandom

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narrowed down to who really wanted to be there.

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Speaker 1: Your your audience concentrated, it was no longer there the

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water and the mist and the vapor around it. Because

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you're right, five thousand people come in your room that

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first day, and like forty nine hundred and seventy five

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have never spent a token on that shit, right, And.

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Speaker 2: In fact, most of them are trying to, like, you know,

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get you onto telegrams so they can stam you whatever.

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They're trying to get freebies. They like have the the

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the scams where they literally copy and past something and

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it looks like they're tipping you in your room.

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Speaker 1: Like now. Now, I don't want to get political, but

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folks out there, if you have a political candidate who

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wants to publicly execute online scammers, I will in fact

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vote for you, Okay, I yes, I anyone who goes

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into a chat room where a new girl is presenting

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her body and saying please, you know, engage with me,

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and you go, hmmm, I'd like to scam the shit

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out of that girl. Times Square anyway, agreed endorse Okay,

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fair enough. We rarely make political endorsements on the show,

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but I had to lay that one out there, so

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tell me, Okay, So here's the other thing we pitched

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twitch at the beginning. Again, that is, dear dear x fawn,

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what are you trying to move into now? Because again

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and links in the as a description, as always, I

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have your beacons up here, you have a link to everything.

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It looks like it looks it looks like you're putting

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your hands in everything.

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Speaker 2: It kind of does, and I will I'm gonna, I'm gonna,

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especially for the fellow creators out there, I'm going to

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put out some tips here because there's a few things

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I've discovered. I would not be streaming individually to every

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single one of the cam sites that you see on

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my beacons if it weren't for it. There's a it's

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it's called Shine Browser. I'm not I'm not affiliated. I

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don't get any money for this, but it's called Shine Browser,

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and it like aggregates. And the problem is you can

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in obs or whatever you use, you can get like

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multi streaming plugins. The problem is is it draws directly

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and I know I'm gonna get really techy, it draws

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directly from your CPU, and so most computers can't handle it,

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and so most people don't multi stream. Whereas this browser

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does it from you know, their servers, so it doesn't

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take any strain off of your computer, and it has

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all of your chatters, all of your viewers in one window,

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so I can just see and it shows exactly where

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they're coming from. And then if you ever go private,

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then it shuts down whatever other sites you're on, says

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that you're in a private show on all of those sites.

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And so I just kind of like because different sites

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have different audiences, you know, there's some that cater more

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to Europe, there's some that cater more to the US,

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there's some that cater more towards you know, certain things.

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And so that's why I have it looks like I'm

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on a lot of things, but I'm actually just kind

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of multi streaming, you know, where I'm allowed. Obviously, there

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are some places that won't allow it, but there's plenty

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of sites that say, yeah, absolutely, go for it, friend,

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and so then I do.

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Speaker 1: Well, my first piece of advice is go out and

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get yourself an affiliate link to whoever you were talking

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about right there, and I'll put it in. I'm sure

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you could just go apply for it, but here's what

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I would say. I totally understand what you're saying out

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between the cams and this and that, but you also

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it seems like you also touch your feet into other stuff,

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not just that genre. It's not just cam or maybe

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it is. Tell me what your room's like, because you're

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also on twitch Joystick. The only one I've ever and

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only person I've ever talked to that was on Joystick

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was Violet Myers, and that was a combination of sheil

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pause Joystick TV. What exactly is Joystick TV?

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Speaker 2: So it it sort of it presents itself like it's

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the sexy Twitch. Okay, so it's supposed to be for gamers,

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cause players, you know, nerds, but you know that get

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freaky after dark.

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Speaker 1: So okay, okay, so is it? Yeah, that's what it

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felt like to me. It felt like if I go

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from your Chatterbait or your myfree cams and then I

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still want to see the nudity, but like I'm into

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your life and like what you play or what you design, Yeah,

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your costumes and this and that. I'll go to the

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Joystick and it's like, oh, I'm all gooned out for

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the day. I'll just have a to her Twitch now

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and see what she's doing. Is that kind of the progression.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, and again I don't want to

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get to like two in the weeds business oriented here,

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But the thing is is that a lot of especially

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if you're doing things that are like content creation related,

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which is where a lot of people want to focus

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their energy into OnlyFans and whatnot, you do need to

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create an audience somewhere, and oftentimes and usually there has

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to be that audience that isn't already. So if you

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try to create an OnlyFans audience through chatterbait, they're already

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on chatterbait. They're like, my tokens are here, why can't

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you get naked here? And so whereas Twitch and you know,

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the ones that are more safe for work, then you're

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going to have those people that are like, well she

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can't show her tits on Twitch, Well, there's the only fans.

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So there's kind of a funnel that happens there. On

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the other hand, also Twitch, you can you know, obviously

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get paid with subscriptions just for people wanting to watch

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you and your personality and you know, playing games and

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all that kind of stuff, which I appreciate as well.

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So there's there's sort of that like multi purpose with twitch.

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That is like, if I don't always just want to

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be tits first, then and don't get me wrong, I

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don't mind being tits first a lot of my life.

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But if you want to do things like you know,

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I play games, I like, you know, there's there's other

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things that you know, if I want to get cozy

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in place in Boulder's Gate, then I you know, I

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can do that and I can sort of like cultivate

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an audience there. Sure, yeah, And I think that there's

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something about that. Uh, what's that diversity? That diversifying of

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how I'm out there? Because again I understand why there's

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some people that don't want to be known for their

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adult work. I don't mind it, which is why I'm here. Obviously,

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I don't mind being known for that, and so I

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don't mind kind of crossing genres if you will.

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Speaker 1: Right, So is that what is your twitch? So okay,

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stop saying so first off, idiot, that's me. I go

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in your Twitter. I'm scrolling through and I was looking

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for pictures. I was like, I'll find something for the

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social media, and I go, okay, here she is, Princess Peach.

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It looks like it was this person. Are you a

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cos player or are you a video game player? On Twitch?

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And is there a difference not between those two between

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the audience you bring in with those.

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Speaker 2: Sure, I hear what you're saying. Yeah, there's a lot

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of overlap, Like the Benn diagram is pretty pretty almost

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two circles on top of each other. But that but

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you know, I there's a you know, it's a variety

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streamer as they call them, because I actually started on

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Twitch as a when they still had the hot tub streams.

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I started as a hot tub streamer and then that

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kind of fell out of favor and there was a

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lot of really angry, you know, dudes that were furious

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about letting hot tub streamers exist. So they kind of

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they moved away from that, and then you know, they're

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technically is still a category. But you know, most of

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the time people are literally just chatting with like a

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kiddie pool in the background, because you have to have

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a body of water in order to so most of

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ule are actually in hot tubs anymore. They're just they're

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just doing chatting. And similarly, with like what I do,

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I do a lot of like just chatting or sometimes

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I'll get into a game category if I'm you know,

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feeling like it, but it's it's mainly just chatting. And

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you know, oftentimes I'll be in cosplay, not every time, though,

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sometimes I'll just be playing games. And again, the audience

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is pretty universal.

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Speaker 1: There gotcha? So what does the audience want to hear

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you chat about? Just your normal life or news that

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came out? Do you touch on anything big in the

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new now that face.

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Speaker 2: I am sure nobody wants to hear me talking about

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the news because I'm a Now we will get into

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politics two seconds. I'm a dirty card carrying socialist. I

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love Donny Anyway, point is is nobody wants to hear

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me talk about politics, which but that does kind of weirdly.

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I do talk about it sometimes, but in the sort

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of like how this is another this is another point

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of labor, if you will, Like I, I'm in the

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laboring working class, and you know a lot of times people,

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uh so I do. I do talk philosophically often. People

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know that I'm I'm not just a bimbo. I mean,

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I can I can play one on TV, but I'm

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mainly you know, I crack some jokes, I talk about philosophy,

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I talk about you know, I've got two little sheeta

471
00:24:20,319 --> 00:24:22,480
e news. They come in and play and you know,

472
00:24:22,519 --> 00:24:25,200
I talk about my dogs and that that sort of thing.

473
00:24:25,279 --> 00:24:27,519
So it's kind of just like a peek, a little

474
00:24:27,559 --> 00:24:28,440
peephole into my.

475
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:32,640
Speaker 1: Life and they like engaging with that. Absolutely writing, that's awesome,

476
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,920
that's incredible. You know you've talked about a little politics there.

477
00:24:36,039 --> 00:24:40,599
I interviewed a girl like two years ago who looks

478
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:45,440
just spot on, just like AOC. Oh, and and it

479
00:24:45,559 --> 00:24:48,119
got in my head right at that moment. Look, death

480
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:51,119
threats will go through the roof, obviously, but I think

481
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,240
so would subscriptions too, exactly.

482
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:56,000
Speaker 2: Sometimes you've got a rage bait again. I mean, it

483
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:59,160
would be the socialist, but I understand capitalism.

484
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:02,440
Speaker 1: Baby, I don't even And especially in AOC one, you're

485
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:04,359
gonna have guys who want to sign up who are like,

486
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:06,359
fuck this bitch, blah blah blah, I want to see

487
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:09,039
your ducker. But then the other side is, oh my god,

488
00:25:09,079 --> 00:25:12,279
I love AOC. I want to see it would sell, man,

489
00:25:12,559 --> 00:25:16,200
it really would sell. It would. But again, death threats,

490
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,480
your address, all that bullshit something.

491
00:25:18,759 --> 00:25:21,759
Speaker 2: And you do have to kind of square that. I

492
00:25:21,839 --> 00:25:24,400
do understand. Although there are some things that I hold,

493
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:28,519
like to the utmost sacred standard of integrity in my life,

494
00:25:28,559 --> 00:25:30,279
and then there's some stuff like that where I'm.

495
00:25:30,079 --> 00:25:34,680
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, screw it, let's ever you know, get.

496
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,599
Speaker 2: Really good about, like hire somebody to help you with

497
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,079
like you know, making sure you're not dosed and your

498
00:25:39,319 --> 00:25:43,240
cybersecurity and security security and then letter rip my friend.

499
00:25:43,319 --> 00:25:46,559
Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's it's a great marketing. So

500
00:25:46,759 --> 00:25:49,160
that's what I'm asking trying to get to with you here,

501
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:54,279
What is your brand? Because I love everything I see

502
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,440
of you. But again, the same thing with your beacon,

503
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:58,440
where I'm like, I don't even know where to start

504
00:25:58,480 --> 00:25:58,960
with her.

505
00:26:00,279 --> 00:26:02,759
Speaker 2: Need to tone it down at some point, even though

506
00:26:02,759 --> 00:26:05,039
I am technically discoverable.

507
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:06,880
Speaker 1: Not even tone it down. I just I got to

508
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,319
know where where where go is so I can start

509
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:12,319
working this monopoly board and get to every PCU. That

510
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,920
sounds weird, but you know what I mean by it.

511
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:20,359
Would you consider yourself primarily a streamer, primarily a cam person,

512
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:25,319
primarily an only fans creator, or you know, are you

513
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,960
a cosplayer? Like if I wanted to start on the

514
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:29,960
Deer Fon Journey, where should I begin?

515
00:26:30,599 --> 00:26:36,359
Speaker 2: Yes? You know, I think that is a great question,

516
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,200
and I didn't realize I was. I mean this in

517
00:26:39,279 --> 00:26:41,480
the most respectful way possible. I didn't realize I was

518
00:26:41,519 --> 00:26:44,440
doing a marketing session, but I probably needed. It's probably

519
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,400
some ADHD that has gone like untreated or something for me,

520
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:54,519
but I I don't really identify. So for instance, you know,

521
00:26:54,799 --> 00:26:57,799
there's there's a few cosplayers that I absolutely love, and

522
00:26:57,799 --> 00:27:03,799
they're out there, you know, literally blacksmithing their shit, and

523
00:27:03,839 --> 00:27:06,759
I'm like, no, I'm like Ali express for most of

524
00:27:06,759 --> 00:27:09,200
the bits and pieces. I can maybe craft a little

525
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,160
thing out of felt, but I'm not a blacksmith. I'm

526
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,880
not like a case player in that sense. So it's

527
00:27:15,079 --> 00:27:16,519
you know, somebody asked me, they were like, do you

528
00:27:16,599 --> 00:27:19,720
do it professionally? And I'm like, I mean, I've made

529
00:27:19,759 --> 00:27:23,079
some money being dressed up as Princess Peach before, but

530
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:26,599
that was just like an Amazon thing, so so professionally

531
00:27:26,599 --> 00:27:33,000
not probably a cosplayer. As far as like what I

532
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:38,400
identify with, I mean, I do think it's mainly content

533
00:27:38,519 --> 00:27:42,319
creation as an umbrella, and I don't think that that

534
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:45,519
needs to be per Again, maybe this is why I

535
00:27:45,519 --> 00:27:47,359
don't have millions of dollars in the bank yet though,

536
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:51,279
I don't have like a focus that is just like

537
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:55,960
I am like the gallon my free cams. That is

538
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:59,000
just that's where I live and breathe. I will say

539
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:02,599
that some of that might be some I had not

540
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:06,920
a bad experience. They were great, but I did really

541
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,960
focus on one and I will not say them because

542
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,519
I don't want to, like, you know, besmirch their good

543
00:28:12,599 --> 00:28:15,000
name because they really they were a fine camsite, but

544
00:28:15,039 --> 00:28:20,720
they were extremely exclusive and I made great money, although

545
00:28:20,759 --> 00:28:23,119
their percentage is terrible, but I made great money. They

546
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:26,240
were very exclusive, and they they did end up finding me.

547
00:28:27,039 --> 00:28:29,519
You know, I rose the ranks, and they were like,

548
00:28:29,599 --> 00:28:34,039
holy moly, it sounds like you're doing a news broadcast

549
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:37,799
but naked. Every time you're here, we want to hire you.

550
00:28:37,839 --> 00:28:39,640
And this is a big company. This isn't some fly

551
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,119
by night, small little thing. They're like, we want to

552
00:28:42,279 --> 00:28:44,839
move you to LA and make you the host of

553
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,519
our podcast. And I was like, fuck, guess I've arrived.

554
00:28:47,519 --> 00:28:51,039
This is what I want to do. Because again, a

555
00:28:51,119 --> 00:28:53,599
lot of this is just fascinating to me. In general,

556
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:56,880
I'm chatty. I love talking to other people in this space.

557
00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:00,119
You know, yes, sex is fun, but it's also like

558
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,279
the novelty of it all is just so like fascinating

559
00:29:02,279 --> 00:29:03,559
to me, which is probably why I'm also won one

560
00:29:03,599 --> 00:29:05,599
hundred different things at this point. But I was very

561
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:09,000
loyal to them, so I went to LA during the pandemic.

562
00:29:09,079 --> 00:29:13,200
I went to LA so stoked to be their podcast host.

563
00:29:13,839 --> 00:29:15,880
And I get there and maybe I should have like

564
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:17,960
nailed this down a little bit better before I got

565
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,680
out there. But what they were offering me with pay,

566
00:29:21,519 --> 00:29:23,759
especially in LA, and they didn't want me to cam

567
00:29:23,799 --> 00:29:26,400
anymore either. I was going to be focusing on the podcast.

568
00:29:27,119 --> 00:29:29,480
What they were offering me in pay was forty thousand

569
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,759
a year in LA, and I was like, oh, my

570
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,640
sweet baby Jesus, how am I supposed to make this work?

571
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,960
And then they paired me up with a host that

572
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:44,279
was anti sex work and not because we were going

573
00:29:44,319 --> 00:29:46,640
to have like a you know, cross talk kind of

574
00:29:46,759 --> 00:29:50,160
like debate. They she played like she was into it,

575
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:51,920
but the reason why they hired her was because she

576
00:29:52,079 --> 00:29:54,839
was a big talk show host already in LA, and

577
00:29:55,599 --> 00:29:58,200
so secretly she was against all of this, And so

578
00:29:58,359 --> 00:30:00,440
her and I did not get along, and they were

579
00:30:00,519 --> 00:30:02,240
going to be paying me nothing, and I was like,

580
00:30:02,319 --> 00:30:03,880
I don't know how to survive in LA on this

581
00:30:04,359 --> 00:30:05,599
like what do you expect me to do? And I

582
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,799
can't cam anymore? And I had to be very exclusive

583
00:30:08,799 --> 00:30:10,440
to their brand and so there was something about that

584
00:30:10,519 --> 00:30:13,119
that I was just like, you know what. So I

585
00:30:14,079 --> 00:30:16,680
didn't end up accepting the offer. I did like two episodes.

586
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:20,079
Funny not to keep babbling, but funny story is, two

587
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:23,079
years after I left that position, the person that replaced me,

588
00:30:23,119 --> 00:30:24,559
and they did not know that they had replaced me

589
00:30:24,599 --> 00:30:28,359
as the host of this podcast, contacted me to do

590
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,799
an interview because they saw that I was a streamer

591
00:30:33,279 --> 00:30:35,359
and now they caught this part of me. I was like, sure,

592
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:37,359
I'll interview with you, and then at the very end

593
00:30:37,359 --> 00:30:38,799
of the interview, I was like, just so you know

594
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:42,400
I replaced you or you replaced me, rather like what

595
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:44,880
I had no idea that you were hired for this,

596
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,480
and they caught that out of the interview unfortunately when

597
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,400
they posted it. But still, anyway, my point is I

598
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:54,279
was very exclusive, exclusive, I was very focused. I went

599
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:57,799
through the the echelon of this and then I thought,

600
00:30:57,960 --> 00:30:59,480
you know what, I think I am just going to

601
00:30:59,519 --> 00:31:01,640
be a jill of all trades with this and just

602
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,799
see where the you know, the sparks fly.

603
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 1: If you will, and you and today now with everything

604
00:31:09,039 --> 00:31:11,119
look what I'm doing. You can start your own podcast

605
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,160
if you want to. You have the equipment for it.

606
00:31:15,599 --> 00:31:17,359
Speaker 2: Funny you mentioned that. The only reason why I haven't

607
00:31:17,519 --> 00:31:19,720
put this as something that I want you to flag,

608
00:31:19,799 --> 00:31:23,079
although we can put this in the link anyway. I

609
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:26,640
am starting a podcast where I'm interviewing. I just haven't

610
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:28,880
had enough episodes edited that I want to like launch

611
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:30,200
it yet. You know how it is, you need to

612
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:34,200
have some cashed. Okay, so a new link on the beacon.

613
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:43,279
We're just and I add a new one on there. No,

614
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,519
I'm gonna have start deleting some I'm gonna have to start.

615
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:50,680
I'll be cleaned up before this episode releases, I promise.

616
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I did a week to week

617
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,119
with my friend through the pandemic. We did two hundred

618
00:31:57,119 --> 00:32:00,319
and fifty straight weeks, just a comedy show, straight comedy show.

619
00:32:00,759 --> 00:32:04,200
I went to school for radio. The world we're living

620
00:32:04,279 --> 00:32:07,559
in now, you can just create anything you want. And

621
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:11,920
I think the people in power, especially in the adult industry,

622
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:15,440
really know that now and they'll take their percentages in

623
00:32:15,519 --> 00:32:20,359
this and that. But with AI becoming much more accessible,

624
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:22,799
you'll be able to build your own website much easier.

625
00:32:23,279 --> 00:32:26,680
And you know every that the power is slipping away,

626
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:28,640
it really is. And I think that's a great thing

627
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:30,079
for performers. I really do.

628
00:32:31,799 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 2: For anybody that has their gripes with OnlyFans. I hear

629
00:32:34,799 --> 00:32:37,279
you because I do too, sure, especially just as a

630
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,000
as a company itself, there's some weird stuff going on

631
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:43,000
because you know, again, tell me a company that big

632
00:32:43,039 --> 00:32:46,119
that doesn't have some corruption. But anyway, but what it

633
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,880
did culturally, and again people can talk about the cultural

634
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:52,200
ramifications and why it's contributed in the mail loneliness epidemic

635
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:57,279
and et cetera, but that aside what it has done

636
00:32:57,559 --> 00:33:01,319
to sort of flush out that exploitative aspect of the

637
00:33:01,559 --> 00:33:04,799
adult industry that was preying on young women. Not just

638
00:33:04,799 --> 00:33:07,920
because young women were they're at their peak at eighteen.

639
00:33:08,079 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 4: You know that.

640
00:33:09,559 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 2: First of all, I don't believe that anyways. But secondly,

641
00:33:11,599 --> 00:33:13,960
it isn't they can claim all day long that it's

642
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,119
because eighteen year olds are at their peak. It is

643
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:20,799
because they are the most naive. And now there's this, like,

644
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:25,720
like you said, there's this culture shift because people can

645
00:33:25,839 --> 00:33:28,720
create on their own. They've got their own megaphone, they've

646
00:33:28,759 --> 00:33:32,960
got their own broadcasting system that's accessible, and you know,

647
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:36,039
whether you're using only fans or not only fans, itself

648
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:41,680
changed the cultural conversation around this, and because yeah, there

649
00:33:41,759 --> 00:33:46,079
was other places that we're doing subscription based you know,

650
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,960
content sales, and there was other things before only fans,

651
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:53,720
but the only fans generational shift, the cultural shift has

652
00:33:54,119 --> 00:33:56,200
made it so that, yeah, a lot of these porn

653
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,480
producers are on notice. And that doesn't mean that all

654
00:33:58,519 --> 00:34:00,559
porn producers are terrible and that you know, porn will

655
00:34:00,559 --> 00:34:03,799
cease to exist. Obviously, it'll still be around, but it's

656
00:34:04,039 --> 00:34:07,279
changed because I get I get solicited for you know,

657
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:11,280
certain contracts and the difference, and I'm not really into

658
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:16,000
the typical porn industry, so I don't usually take any

659
00:34:16,039 --> 00:34:18,480
of that. But there's been some collabse that I've humored

660
00:34:18,559 --> 00:34:21,400
for like only fans, that I'm like, yeah, collaboration's great,

661
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:26,239
but the tone over the last few years has changed dramatically.

662
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 1: When they talk to me, let me let me rephrase

663
00:34:30,599 --> 00:34:33,880
something you said. Though you said it's flushed out a

664
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:37,360
lot of these people. I think it's flushed them laterally, though,

665
00:34:37,519 --> 00:34:40,920
I think, now you have let me manage your only fans.

666
00:34:41,119 --> 00:34:45,119
Oh yeah, yeah, see that they don't they're cockroaches. They

667
00:34:45,159 --> 00:34:49,639
don't go well, they just moved. Yeah yeah, and do

668
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:52,679
you just look some of them though I've worked I

669
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,159
work with like PR agents, and the PR agents aren't

670
00:34:55,199 --> 00:34:57,039
the same as like your booking agent and this and that.

671
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:01,280
They I have people I would recommend to anyone because

672
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,039
I know the work they do. I know the work

673
00:35:03,119 --> 00:35:05,719
they've done for me behind the scenes. I've never hired

674
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,480
them or anything like that. So there are good people.

675
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,960
You just you really have to suss out who it is.

676
00:35:12,199 --> 00:35:14,880
And that's much easier at twenty nine than it is

677
00:35:15,119 --> 00:35:17,760
at eighteen. So I totally get that. Let me ask

678
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:19,679
you this. I normally end on this question because I

679
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,480
ask all the mainstream girls. I asked the newer performers

680
00:35:22,519 --> 00:35:26,280
coming into it, and there's no judgment on this from me.

681
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,599
What should be the age a girl can get into

682
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:34,920
the adult entertainment industry? Because there's varying views and surprising

683
00:35:35,039 --> 00:35:37,679
ones from girls who like got into this at eighteen.

684
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:42,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, I here's the deal. Like this is where it

685
00:35:42,119 --> 00:35:45,400
gets really sticky about like a one size fits all

686
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,679
equation In some ways, I almost feel like there needs

687
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:52,800
to be like a means test, even though I'm like

688
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,559
so against means testing and other regards in the world,

689
00:35:55,599 --> 00:35:58,480
but they're to me. And by that I don't mean, like,

690
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:02,840
you know, I think people are asking themselves the wrong questions. So,

691
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,239
for instance, I did this episode of Million Years Ago

692
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:08,239
a guest for another thing, and they asked a similar

693
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,119
question about you know, like do but it was their

694
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:14,840
question was do you think someday you're going to regret OnlyFans?

695
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,280
And I was like, if you if you were on

696
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:21,559
the fence about that at all, you know, yeah. And

697
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:23,440
so there's certain questions that I think you need to

698
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:26,519
ask yourself. And it isn't necessarily age dependent, because I

699
00:36:26,599 --> 00:36:29,199
think that there's people in their thirties that could you know,

700
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,880
not be too, that are so naive about this still

701
00:36:33,199 --> 00:36:35,760
that even though they're in their thirties, it's they'd still

702
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:36,480
regret things.

703
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you're you're spot on. And most of the

704
00:36:39,199 --> 00:36:42,800
performers I talked to say that too, where like I'm

705
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,480
thirty seven, I'm as dumb as they come. Okay, I'd

706
00:36:45,519 --> 00:36:48,440
get tricked into anything. Uh, And there's eighteen year olds

707
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:49,920
I've interviewed who are like, yeah, so I have my

708
00:36:50,039 --> 00:36:52,519
retirement set up. I'm like, get the fuck out of here.

709
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,320
So I totally get that what we kind of came

710
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,880
to a consensus on what might be. And you also

711
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,000
don't want to take work away. A girl runs away

712
00:37:00,079 --> 00:37:02,000
from her family at sixteen, lives on the street for

713
00:37:02,079 --> 00:37:04,679
two years, she's old enough to work on only fans

714
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:06,880
or something like that. You don't want to take that away.

715
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:09,360
I totally get that. And that's better than like working

716
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,480
the street or being taken advantage of one hundred percent.

717
00:37:12,519 --> 00:37:14,199
But for every one of those, I can also throw

718
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:16,159
at you the eighteen year old girl who paid for

719
00:37:16,159 --> 00:37:18,679
her own plane ticket to fly across the country and

720
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:21,880
stood outside of the hotel room and called the producer

721
00:37:22,159 --> 00:37:24,239
and said, hey, I'm ready for this, and they never

722
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:28,400
picked up the phone, or even worse, it could be worse, right, absolutely,

723
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,440
one idea I came to with a bunch of big

724
00:37:31,559 --> 00:37:35,719
name performers was maybe we just do solo and softcore

725
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:36,639
till twenty one.

726
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 2: Okay, it's not I don't think that's a bad idea

727
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:44,320
at all. I might even say, you know, depending it's

728
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,360
like there's a range of twenty one to twenty five,

729
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:47,719
because I know that there's a lot of people that

730
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,840
get very controversial about like twenty five is when your

731
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:52,599
frontal lobe is whatever, blah blah blah. And I know

732
00:37:52,639 --> 00:37:54,960
that there's some people like, ugh, but you're an adult.

733
00:37:55,039 --> 00:37:58,599
Why are you, like you said, taking opportunities away from people?

734
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:02,760
And then there's those people that are like me, which

735
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:06,880
I don't. I I see it, and I don't like it.

736
00:38:07,159 --> 00:38:09,000
Take me back to when I was, you know, pre

737
00:38:09,159 --> 00:38:11,440
twenty five. So now, no, I'm not twenty five, y'all,

738
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:14,360
but pre twenty five, and I would have been absolutely

739
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:16,960
as disgusted. On the other hand, there's certain things, and

740
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:18,559
I'm not just talking about the adult industry. I'm just

741
00:38:18,599 --> 00:38:24,079
talking about like life that I wish somebody would have

742
00:38:24,519 --> 00:38:28,119
like shook me before I went and made what I

743
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:30,840
thought was the you know, I was arrogant about it.

744
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:32,920
I was so convinced, and now I look back and

745
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:34,599
I'm like, oh my god, I wish that there was

746
00:38:34,639 --> 00:38:37,840
somebody who stopped me. So again, I don't think there

747
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,079
needs to be I'm not a big like there needs

748
00:38:40,119 --> 00:38:43,559
to be hard laws about stuff. Sure, Anyways, when it

749
00:38:43,639 --> 00:38:46,880
comes to, you know, those sorts of very philosophical questions.

750
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,679
I mean, there should be hard laws about like children

751
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,559
versus adults, obviously, but like when it comes to the

752
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:56,199
range of adults and stuff like, I'm like, oh boy,

753
00:38:56,559 --> 00:38:59,039
that gets really, really fraught. But I think you're right.

754
00:38:59,079 --> 00:39:01,880
I think solo and softcore, that's a.

755
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 1: Really interesting understand what it's like putting your body out

756
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,679
there and we actually get from it, and.

757
00:39:08,159 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 2: Man, he here's your adult industry internship.

758
00:39:12,119 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 1: You know exactly.

759
00:39:13,119 --> 00:39:15,119
Speaker 2: Yes, I don't think that's a horrible idea.

760
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 1: Actually, all the guys who have eighteen on their category

761
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,119
searches are fucking planning to kill me right now. I

762
00:39:21,199 --> 00:39:23,920
had such a good joke. I couldn't say it because

763
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:25,920
it was so rude, and I was like, no, this

764
00:39:26,039 --> 00:39:27,519
is the show where you're a nice guy. When you

765
00:39:27,599 --> 00:39:29,199
were like, maybe they wait till they're twenty five, I

766
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:31,000
was gonna just blurt out, yeah, but they're all used

767
00:39:31,079 --> 00:39:31,519
up by then.

768
00:39:33,639 --> 00:39:36,639
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I mean you're channeling, you're channeling that

769
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:38,800
that's a person, So I hear you.

770
00:39:39,079 --> 00:39:41,519
Speaker 1: I have to keep the monster in me suppressed so

771
00:39:41,599 --> 00:39:43,400
I can talk the nice, pretty girls about their only

772
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:44,519
fanis who wants.

773
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:48,280
Speaker 2: That expired female mills are making a comeback, y'all?

774
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:51,079
Speaker 1: Sure, sure, a nice twenty four year old milf exactly.

775
00:39:51,159 --> 00:39:54,599
I agree. All right, Before they kill me on this,

776
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:56,760
let me talk about some of your content. If I

777
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:58,760
go and sign up for your Only Fans again at

778
00:39:59,159 --> 00:40:02,559
Dear d A or Phone f A w N. If

779
00:40:02,559 --> 00:40:03,840
I go to sign I'm for your Only Fans? What

780
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:06,440
kind of content am I seeing? Is it daily snapshot

781
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,320
of your life? Is it a produced video X amount

782
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:10,159
of times a month?

783
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 4: Is it?

784
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:11,679
Speaker 1: What are we talking about?

785
00:40:12,039 --> 00:40:15,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, so most of my feed is just like if

786
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:17,920
you're just subscribing, most of my feed is just like

787
00:40:18,079 --> 00:40:22,440
you know, some topless coseplay, the occasional like I'm out

788
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,719
at a concert kind of video like you know, not

789
00:40:26,519 --> 00:40:29,400
not not like a daily like get ready with me,

790
00:40:29,519 --> 00:40:33,159
that's for sure, But uh, I got too much chaos

791
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:34,840
in my in the rest of my day to be

792
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:36,760
you know anyway, which I'm sure some people would be

793
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:40,000
interested in, but usually my phone is so anyway. Yeah,

794
00:40:40,119 --> 00:40:43,239
it's usually like topless cosplay and you know, some gaining

795
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:45,559
some you know, occasionally I'll do like a funny real

796
00:40:45,639 --> 00:40:48,519
that I you know, will then uh sort of make

797
00:40:48,599 --> 00:40:53,039
the slightly more adull version of so. But what I

798
00:40:53,199 --> 00:40:57,440
do you know more custom for people is I then

799
00:40:57,519 --> 00:41:01,320
I can get a little more freaky. And I'm I

800
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:05,159
wouldn't say a master of role play, but I'm good

801
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:08,519
with role plays. I'm I am not afraid of acting.

802
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:12,519
I am not. I was a theater person before all this.

803
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 1: That's the end.

804
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 2: And if you will, so there's role plays, roleplays, especially

805
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:20,480
in coseplays. If you know, people request that sort of thing.

806
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:25,639
I'm I'm I'm sort of not squeamish about most sex. Again,

807
00:41:25,679 --> 00:41:29,679
as long as it's safe, sane, and consensual. And then

808
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:31,280
as far as role plays are concerned, you know, the

809
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:33,679
only thing that I won't do because I'm just so

810
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:36,000
against speaking of this, I just don't do things like

811
00:41:36,079 --> 00:41:38,880
age play and all that kind of you know, so

812
00:41:39,119 --> 00:41:42,199
the weirder stuff that then contributes to this culture of

813
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,199
twenty five year olds being used up, so.

814
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 1: That the age play that I saw a video you

815
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:51,719
had on your Twitter where someone said like call me

816
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:54,039
daddy or something like that, and you were like, hold

817
00:41:54,079 --> 00:41:56,639
the fuck on. So you're not into that, right, that's

818
00:41:56,639 --> 00:41:57,159
not at all.

819
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:00,159
Speaker 2: Furious that it has been normalized to call people me

820
00:42:00,199 --> 00:42:04,119
and daddy. I'm like, do not please God, But I

821
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:06,719
think we're into it, not trying to yuck everybody's youm

822
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:07,239
but I hate it.

823
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 1: No, it's not necessarily my thing either. And I ask

824
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:14,639
all the performers. I go like, do you want that

825
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,280
to go away? Like that trend? Would we like it

826
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:19,079
to move along? A lot of them are just like,

827
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:22,960
you know what, it's acting. I don't care, blah blah blah.

828
00:42:24,119 --> 00:42:27,039
Not my thing, not my thing, but hey, it's legal.

829
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:30,000
You had what was the one you said saying something

830
00:42:30,119 --> 00:42:30,760
and something.

831
00:42:30,679 --> 00:42:32,079
Speaker 2: Pain safe and consensual.

832
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:35,679
Speaker 1: See I used to normally just say sack shit animals

833
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:38,480
and kids. I'm just just keep that out in general

834
00:42:39,599 --> 00:42:42,960
and I'll accept, Hey, that's great, sure, do whatever you liked.

835
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:45,159
Speaker 2: I used to say that too, but I've been working

836
00:42:45,199 --> 00:42:47,840
in this industry long enough that now I realize, oh

837
00:42:48,079 --> 00:42:52,360
wait a second, there are nuances here that I was

838
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:53,320
not detecting.

839
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:57,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's all in the nuance. It seems like,

840
00:42:58,039 --> 00:43:00,599
all right, let me hit some of my these sexual

841
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:02,599
questions on here, because we've been having such a great

842
00:43:02,679 --> 00:43:06,159
conversation lately. Do you have a favorite sexual position?

843
00:43:08,119 --> 00:43:11,679
Speaker 2: You know this is going to sound maybe surprising or

844
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:15,559
unsurprising coming from somebody who grew up with Mormons around.

845
00:43:15,639 --> 00:43:19,679
But I think that missionary is like overlooked a lot

846
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,360
in like thinking it's not you can add some pazaz

847
00:43:22,519 --> 00:43:25,039
to it depending on how you elevate your you know,

848
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:28,039
pelvis and you know which hole you're using. I mean

849
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:31,159
missionary anal. Guys, it's it's not a bad it's not

850
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:35,320
a bad deal. So just saying that that missionary is

851
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:38,079
oftentimes overlooked perfect.

852
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:42,039
Speaker 1: What's your least favorite? Is there a sexual position where

853
00:43:42,079 --> 00:43:44,039
your partner will come to you and go, hey, let's

854
00:43:44,079 --> 00:43:46,480
do this, and you go, ugh, all right.

855
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, reverse cow girl one thousand percent. Don't do it

856
00:43:49,079 --> 00:43:50,960
to me. I don't want to look at your toes

857
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:54,880
while I'm getting my squats in. I'm just it's yeah,

858
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:56,880
over that does nothing for me.

859
00:43:57,199 --> 00:44:03,360
Speaker 1: Overwhelming answer for least favorite from mainstream established stars except

860
00:44:04,119 --> 00:44:07,480
my favorite performer she looks just like my wife, goth Charlotte.

861
00:44:07,599 --> 00:44:11,199
Charlotte start her favorite position, reverse cowgirl. I go, oh,

862
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:14,920
you're just you just hate everything about yourself, so you're.

863
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 2: Exactly see listen. I get it from a producer, like

864
00:44:19,599 --> 00:44:23,079
from like the cameraman's perspective because you're seeing the girl's

865
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:25,840
face while like the angle, Like the angle is good

866
00:44:26,519 --> 00:44:30,239
for film, but performing it sucks.

867
00:44:30,679 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 1: So there's so many positions. I look at and I go, man,

868
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:35,760
I'm gonna throw that out to Jen. Jen's my wife.

869
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:37,400
I'm gotta throw that out. And then I look at

870
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:40,880
it and go, my dick is not big enough for that,

871
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:43,599
Like what was I thinking?

872
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:45,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, the dick.

873
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 3: Geometry is just not gonna work here. It's just not

874
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:50,920
Our bodies aren't shipped like this. I'm sorry, it's not

875
00:44:51,039 --> 00:44:56,320
gonna happen, and I'm sorry, but like listen, I'm I

876
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:59,800
keep fit. I've got my elliptical over here off screen, Like,

877
00:45:00,039 --> 00:45:02,920
I do my best to keep as strong as I

878
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:03,719
possibly can.

879
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:06,039
Speaker 2: But some of this, I'm like, I don't need to

880
00:45:06,079 --> 00:45:09,360
be a bodybuilder to be able to execute this because

881
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:12,400
some of this, like upper body strength and lower body

882
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:16,920
strength that's you know, required for reverse cowgirls. Ooh, it's

883
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:17,440
too much.

884
00:45:17,599 --> 00:45:18,679
Speaker 1: It's too much too.

885
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:21,079
Speaker 2: There's why I'm on Stripper, Like I said, besides the

886
00:45:21,159 --> 00:45:23,079
fact that I have to see people in person, there's

887
00:45:23,119 --> 00:45:26,159
also I'm just not that athletic, you know what.

888
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 1: You would look like on stage with high heels, on

889
00:45:30,119 --> 00:45:33,440
real high heels, trying to move and dance around, almost

890
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:35,559
like a like a deer or a fawn, you know,

891
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:37,559
is what you would kind of look like. I don't know,

892
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:41,719
just throwing that out sicely. You're getting it now, I understand.

893
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:44,440
I understand the personality. I didn't know where to start,

894
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:47,400
but I think I found out where we're going to

895
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:49,000
end up. And that's the only fans which we'll plug

896
00:45:49,039 --> 00:45:54,280
at the end real quick, you said, Anal missionaries not bad.

897
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:57,079
So I assume our current working relationship with Anamal is

898
00:45:57,199 --> 00:45:58,119
okay and acceptable.

899
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, also understand. I totally understand why there are people,

900
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:06,559
especially ladies, that are you know, wary of that because

901
00:46:06,679 --> 00:46:11,079
oftentimes it is used as a cudgel for you know, suffering,

902
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:20,119
and but done correctly and safely, sanely, consensually. There's there's

903
00:46:20,199 --> 00:46:22,320
a there's a lot to that that, you know, especially

904
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:25,159
as like cream pies make a big comeback. Now, my

905
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:28,800
partner is the sectimized, thank you, thank you, thank you

906
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:33,760
so much. But but as cream pies come back, I'm like, listen.

907
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:37,079
The other good thing about Anal's the pregnancy scare is a.

908
00:46:37,079 --> 00:46:41,159
Speaker 1: Lot less, so you should start a podcast because literally

909
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:44,559
my next question is, can you please rank these three

910
00:46:44,679 --> 00:46:46,920
for me? Facial swallowing cream pie?

911
00:46:48,159 --> 00:46:52,840
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, uh again depending on who it is. Now,

912
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:55,239
if if he's got of a sectomy, creampies are great,

913
00:46:56,159 --> 00:47:01,360
that's wonderful, but uh, if not, then it's going to

914
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:04,119
be Probably It's hard to say because there's a little

915
00:47:04,119 --> 00:47:08,320
bit more clean up with the facial and I actually

916
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:12,039
sort of I'm sort of into come, So I'm going

917
00:47:12,079 --> 00:47:15,599
to go swallowing facial cream pie unless he's got a eseectomy,

918
00:47:15,639 --> 00:47:17,119
and then that cream pie goes number one?

919
00:47:17,599 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 1: Is that because of the easy cleanup?

920
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:22,039
Speaker 2: Yes? Well, and I like come, but yes, easy cleanup

921
00:47:22,039 --> 00:47:23,559
as well. It's a two for one.

922
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:28,960
Speaker 1: Fair enough? Fair enough? How okay? You are the what

923
00:47:29,079 --> 00:47:32,079
were you the queen of you were saying was it cosplay?

924
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:34,159
Was it role play? Queen of role play?

925
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:36,519
Speaker 2: Okay, and again, don't callte me on that too much

926
00:47:36,519 --> 00:47:39,119
because otherwise I'm gonna get way too many requests for

927
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:39,880
really weird.

928
00:47:40,559 --> 00:47:40,599
Speaker 3: No.

929
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:42,719
Speaker 1: No, you're the queen of role play. I have the

930
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:45,840
biggest dick in North America. That's just what we're setting

931
00:47:46,159 --> 00:47:51,559
on the record. Okay, this is record now, how important

932
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:53,920
is dirty talk to you? And how good are you

933
00:47:54,119 --> 00:47:54,400
at it?

934
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 2: So, considering that I'm good at roleplay, like just all

935
00:48:00,199 --> 00:48:05,159
the cuf random dirty talk not great because because I

936
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:07,760
don't know, like I maybe the role play. The reason

937
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:10,360
why I like it is because it gives context and

938
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:12,320
so then I can get into character. But if somebody

939
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:13,960
was just like in bed with me and just like

940
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:16,760
trying to get me to just start randomly saying stuff,

941
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:21,119
you know, dirty talk, I'm gonna I'm gonna probably be

942
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:26,079
really awkward and embarrassing. So for me, the requirement of

943
00:48:26,159 --> 00:48:28,639
dirty talk I better not be required. Otherwise we're gonna

944
00:48:28,679 --> 00:48:30,760
have well, we'll have a laugh, but it won't be

945
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:36,639
it won't be horny. But others talking to me, like

946
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:39,320
especially in like just my personal life, Oh I do

947
00:48:39,559 --> 00:48:42,280
like somebody who knows what they're they're they're saying there

948
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:46,280
is something there's something good about dirty talk. The other direction, Oh.

949
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:49,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, my wife, same thing. She doesn't she's

950
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:51,880
in the moment. You can't really throw it at her.

951
00:48:52,519 --> 00:48:54,159
You have to almost like walk her through it, like

952
00:48:54,519 --> 00:48:57,199
what if I said this, what would your response to

953
00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:59,320
that be? But then at that point it's like I'm

954
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:03,159
just teaching like a ASL class. I think no EESL.

955
00:49:04,599 --> 00:49:06,239
I used to be an SL teacher, so I hear it.

956
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:09,440
I took sign language in college. These aren't anything. These

957
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:09,840
are gangs.

958
00:49:10,199 --> 00:49:11,519
Speaker 2: I wouldn't know.

959
00:49:13,639 --> 00:49:18,119
Speaker 1: Let's see, do you have an opinion on number of

960
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:22,039
performers that makes a gang bang? Yeah?

961
00:49:22,159 --> 00:49:25,840
Speaker 2: I think I think it has to be more than three,

962
00:49:26,119 --> 00:49:30,000
because there's three. I don't know. This is just I'm

963
00:49:30,119 --> 00:49:32,280
saying this off the cuff because but usually I just

964
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:34,119
see three. I want to say just three. It's not

965
00:49:34,199 --> 00:49:37,360
like that's nothing, but that that that seems like I'd

966
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:42,039
still call it a foursome. After that, then we can

967
00:49:42,199 --> 00:49:43,639
maybe start calling it.

968
00:49:43,639 --> 00:49:46,119
Speaker 1: A gang bang. One hundred percent agree, one hundred percent agree.

969
00:49:46,159 --> 00:49:49,400
I think minimum four guys. I've been told minimum five,

970
00:49:49,559 --> 00:49:51,920
one for each hand as well, but oh.

971
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:54,679
Speaker 2: Good good calling out three holes two hands, I can

972
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:55,280
get behind that.

973
00:49:55,639 --> 00:49:57,440
Speaker 1: I would say, yeah, I would say four and up,

974
00:49:57,679 --> 00:49:59,760
maybe four and a half. If you're talking about a

975
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:04,800
small person or something in there, do you have any

976
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:08,360
desire to shoot for the mainstream or is that something

977
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:10,519
you don't want to do if it came along and

978
00:50:10,559 --> 00:50:13,679
it was the right opportunity and you disgusted and everything

979
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:14,000
or no.

980
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 2: See, I think I have spoken to people that have

981
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:20,719
the what seems like the right opportunity is truly and

982
00:50:21,039 --> 00:50:23,320
I do think it has to do with Unfortunately I

983
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:30,199
have some just personal hard lines, like I'm I take

984
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:35,639
my hormones very seriously and so like birth control and

985
00:50:36,559 --> 00:50:39,079
Plan B and all and and nor do I want

986
00:50:39,079 --> 00:50:41,760
to especially not during a scene, but certainly I don't

987
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:46,559
want to be pregnant. So like I think that there's

988
00:50:47,039 --> 00:50:49,159
like there's some real big barriers. So if there was,

989
00:50:49,519 --> 00:50:51,440
if somebody came, because there have been some really good

990
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:53,519
opportunities that have come my way with like you know,

991
00:50:53,639 --> 00:50:59,800
some decent equity splits, you know, exposure, you know, et cetera.

992
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:01,400
But there was just some things that I was like,

993
00:51:01,559 --> 00:51:06,159
I can't, I can't. I can't square that last thing

994
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:11,440
with you know, being again on birth control or any

995
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:13,039
of that other stuff. And I know that that sounds

996
00:51:13,079 --> 00:51:16,119
like a really odd one to some people that are

997
00:51:16,159 --> 00:51:17,960
like in fact, a lot of these producers have said

998
00:51:18,039 --> 00:51:20,639
like why why can't you just and I'm like, trust

999
00:51:20,679 --> 00:51:26,039
me again without getting without violating my own hipoprivacies here,

1000
00:51:26,199 --> 00:51:28,519
Like it's been a journey with my hormones, the fact

1001
00:51:28,559 --> 00:51:31,239
that I'm even you know, as smiley and functional as

1002
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:33,559
I am. You know, the person that you see before

1003
00:51:33,599 --> 00:51:36,199
you now has taken a lot of finessing, and I

1004
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:38,280
do not want to throw any sort of spanners in

1005
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:38,880
those works.

1006
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 1: You hear that, folks, she's looking to shoot a blowbang,

1007
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:46,559
not a gang bang. My guest today deer Phon. You

1008
00:51:46,679 --> 00:51:50,840
find her on Twitter at the Dear Phon da r

1009
00:51:51,639 --> 00:51:55,400
faw n on Only Fans. Most importantly, go and spend

1010
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:57,880
money on these folks when you can. Okay, I know

1011
00:51:57,960 --> 00:51:59,880
it's tough out there, it's rough, you know, but we

1012
00:52:00,159 --> 00:52:03,719
all have thirty percent of our paycheck set aside for pornography,

1013
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:06,119
and I'm just asking maybe that's just me. I don't

1014
00:52:06,159 --> 00:52:08,679
I don't know, I don't know, but I'm asking you

1015
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:11,400
to take a percentage of that or your four oh

1016
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:14,679
one K and go sign up at OnlyFans at Dear

1017
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:18,440
Fawn d e A r f a w N. Head

1018
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:20,840
on over to her twitch too. You want to see again.

1019
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:22,440
We're going to start on the twitch right and I

1020
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:24,559
want you to get all really like turned on by her.

1021
00:52:24,599 --> 00:52:27,360
Think over the after TV and be like, oh my god,

1022
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:30,480
holy shit, look at this she's playing topless and then

1023
00:52:30,559 --> 00:52:32,199
go to the next step and you know, see all

1024
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:34,719
the goods and pay for it and everything else. Twitch

1025
00:52:35,119 --> 00:52:38,760
dear d e r X, Fawn f A w N,

1026
00:52:39,199 --> 00:52:40,760
dear Fawn, thank you so much for coming on with

1027
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:41,239
me tonight