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Speaker 4: You welcome man O TB on this Tuesday morning, Glynn,
Jordan's tata all here with you for the next three hours.
Speaker 5: You forgot to turn your beatles over there. Just listening
to the Beatles this morning.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you got him a little fired up over there.
How are y'all doing? How we all living?
Speaker 5: I know?
Speaker 6: Uh? You know, Jordan made a life decision last night
to catch up on some rest instead of watching the Pelicans,
because he said, and I quote they were playing the Thunder.
Speaker 2: Oh without a doubt, Like that's that's automatic BTA. So
it's not even why waste your time? No, it's no
point that you're gonna you gotta you gotta pick a
choose your battle. So I went to the Pelicans game Sunday.
Matter of fact, when they played the Warriors. You know,
I'm like, oh, opportunity to see Steph Curry. You know,
Willy Green fire. I said, I ain't gonna spend no
money with the franchise until Willy Green was gone. He
was gone. A boy hit me up and say, hey,
we're going to the game. We're gonna watch Curry. Yeah,
sitting good one oh four, So be right there. I'm like, man,
this this this might be the night. It isn't you know.
It wasn't even about getting to win. It was about
covering the plus eleven, but it was really also about
you know, great teams, you know, great teams covered. But
also at the same time, it's to see Steph Curry.
So we paid, you know, probably close like one fifty
all in total to watch Steph Curry dropped nine points. Yeah,
and Moses Moody turning into Kobe Bryant and yeah one
time Moody. Yeah, Moses Moody just turns into Kobe Bryant
and Steph Curry drops nine points.
Speaker 5: Like seventeen bucks a point.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Man, that's definitely Draymond get mad though, I.
Speaker 2: Mean that was cool. I was mad I didn't get
to get in on film, Like I noticed it too
late because I was like mighty stopping the game and
you just look over and then to see the dude
like Draymond going at it.
Speaker 5: What do you trying to get? That guy on the
show like he was confident.
Speaker 3: Who Draymond or the other guy?
Speaker 5: The other guy?
Speaker 3: His last name also Green?
Speaker 2: How cool is that really?
Speaker 3: Sam Green?
Speaker 5: Yeah? Wow? What is dynamic name? Sam Green? Oh? No,
he guy in the crowd. He just kept calling me
Angreel Reeves sleek stopping the game.
Speaker 3: It's like, why are we stopping to get Raymond?
Speaker 5: Again?
Speaker 2: Not really, That's how it was, like, why are we
stopping the game? And you just look over and you
just see him getting into him.
Speaker 5: With the fans.
Speaker 3: That would definitely have been my first choice.
Speaker 5: Exactly what did you say? It didn't It didn't matter
that we didn't win. That wasn't the point. Well, it
was about the plus eleven.
Speaker 2: It was about the plus eleven because it's the Warriors.
And you know, I'm realistic. I'm not just a Sunshine pumper.
That's not what I'm not. Yeah, I'm not.
Speaker 5: I'm not journalistic integrity.
Speaker 2: Yeah no, I'm not here to to boot lick for
the franchise and I'm not here to you know, oh
it's it's all bad. But no, the sun's the sun
still shining. Guys, know that's not me. I'm gonna let
you know what it is. So I knew going into
the game where Steph Curry and the Warriors man Jimmy Butler,
like they have a good team. We are the ragtag
group of nobody's so.
Speaker 5: But you're a fan though, so like you just condemning
yourself to miserableness. I mean, you know you got you
gotta know what I mean. Look, you got people that
are lifelong Browns fans. You got people like Jets fans,
like it's just Wizards. Yeah, you know, but still you
should have some hope Washington Wizards going hope, we'll hope
will get you killed, but hope also keeps us going on.
Speaker 2: So that's kind of why I even went to the game,
was the hope that maybe you know, Willie Willy, Yeah,
plus eleven and Willie Green's going, so you know, it
might have some juice. They fought, but it's the Warriors
and you don't have your best players.
Speaker 3: So he Matt all Right asked the question, did they
cover the plus eleven they lost by eighteen?
Speaker 5: Yeah, people always talk about how good Vegas is. Maybe
Vegas they kind of know, they kind of ask sometimes.
Speaker 2: Many I didn't got spanked. They spaked with that plus eleven.
I'm like, oh, that's no way.
Speaker 5: I'm just saying, well, how did they get the number
right all the time? Wow, I don't know. They were
seven points off that game? Seven points a lot in basketball, Like,
that's a lot of point close Vegas. So that all right?
How are you doing there, Bud? Doing fantastic amazing? I
had a little extra texture in my throat this morning?
Speaker 2: That what.
Speaker 5: You have some what in your Throat's move on, because.
Speaker 2: We'll go with a little something extra in there. What's
going on over here?
Speaker 5: Brother? You cough, got it got a little a little
more raspy.
Speaker 2: That's how you spent the morning off?
Speaker 5: All right? I know all so I don't know at
that's how you're doing?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 5: How are you doing, sir?
Speaker 6: Because I have to imagine that everything that happened yesterday,
which yes, we'll get to all the whatever you want
to call it.
Speaker 5: Uh, I have to imagine that you enjoyed that.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, I am the just get on the
internet and watch the world target audience absolutely like you
get on Twitter. Last night, all I did was type
in Lane Kiffin.
Speaker 5: Guys.
Speaker 3: I could have sat there for two hours and just
laughed at things. There's a Florida fan like we're gonna
name Gainesville after Lane Kiffin. There's another guy saying he
hates him pretty much the same thing with the l
Shue side of things. There's Old Miss fans saying we
want him gone. Why would you not want to be
here at Old Miss? It was really an enjoyablelief.
Speaker 6: Somebody Old Miss fans just trying to trash bad rouge
in the city and everything about us.
Speaker 5: I did see we did happy.
Speaker 3: Things here, but like you're also in Oxford, Mississippi. What
are we doing here?
Speaker 5: Guys?
Speaker 3: He was great. I enjoyed it like I could have.
I could have stayed around.
Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, I want to.
Speaker 6: I want to get your thoughts because the room here,
like we've all been through Flight Tracker season, and we've
we've been in this game long enough where we've seen
the highs and lows, the crazy, the thing that there's
no way it's gonna happen happen because you know, we've
been in this business for a while. You just to
someone who's new to flight Tracker season and all the
things going on.
Speaker 5: What are your thoughts on it? Well, before we get
to talking about how incredibly pathetic flight track it is,
I want to ask, like you said, you could sit
there for two hours. You said, all these people, the
internet's burning over all this different stuff. Is Lane Kiffen
worth it? Worth all this?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 5: He's not. No, he's not. I just don't know. I don't,
I don't. I don't get it. Yeah, he's a great coach.
Speaker 6: Are you saying like nobody's worth is what you're saying?
I mean, because it's all the craziness.
Speaker 5: I'm just trying to No, I saw what I said.
I said, Is Lane Kiffin worth it? Yeah? Expained on that? Okay,
I'm just asking to like, is he that great of
a proven head coach commodity that he's worth a three
man race to get him? These people saying we're gonna
name Gainesville after him, all that stuff. I saw him
a couple of weeks ago go forward on his own
twenty five and take his quarterback out in the goal
line twice twice. And they didn't get it. They don't
know they did win that game though they did win it.
Yeah they were. Who was like, who's that against Ola trash?
Pretty good? Yeah, we's so wonderful.
Speaker 2: I think it's just a combination of a lot of
things people. I think it's LSU fans just wanting a coach.
And I think it's the effect that LSU fans want
to look at Old Miss and be like, yeah, we
just took your coach, Like y'all, y'all are really are
little brothers, Like who cares y'all beat us? We just
snatched a coach. That's I feel like there's a whole
bunch of combinations of a bunch of things. Old Miss
fans want to be like, oh no, we're not just
a stepping stone, like we can keep our coach, Like
y'all can't just come in here and snag our coach.
Speaker 5: And there's any else fans out there that want to
beat their chest because we stole Miss, Oh for sure.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of like, yes, any victory you can
get in life people out there on p.
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm just wondering, is that a victory to them
for social media? Yes, just so they can all year
alone because you've lost.
Speaker 5: Victory for us, Like watching things burn, I get it.
I'm just saying, is it worth burning for? That's what
I'm saying.
Speaker 6: And I would say I definitely think there's going to
be some Old Miss fans that if he stays at
Old Miss want to be like see L s U
Big Bat l s U. No longer the situation where
you can come in and just take our coach like
he decided to stay here.
Speaker 5: Times are different. Blayane Kiffn is a great offensive coach,
great play caller, probably the best play caller in college
football or one of And he's proven to be a
really good coach. They've turned that program around, They've done
a lot of good things. But I mean the fact
still stands that he's been very questionable in game situations,
big game situations. He always loses a couple of games
a year or one. Hadn't done it this year. This
is a little bit different. Maybe he's turned the corner.
I don't know, but like, yeah, he'd be at the
top of the list, But I don't know if he's
worth you know this, I don't know if he's worth
Banner's burning for it or Gainsville saying they're gonna name it, yeah,
Gainsville after him. So I would be I'd be happy
if he was a coach, but I wouldn't be happy
if we have to pay them like twelve million dollars
for ten years to be table.
Speaker 6: Well, I mean if you do go back to where
we met, what we were talking about, like, there's this
job this time having to convince somebody to come here, yeah,
compared to offer that coach gets the offer and they
sprint out of their office and don't even clean it out.
Speaker 5: Yeah, because they're like, let's get started.
Speaker 6: Yep in Baton Rouge, like there is there's a portion
of that that that's what we talked about.
Speaker 5: This next hire. Yeah, you want them to pick up
the phone. No, but I mean we can be some opportunity.
You want that to be somebody that you reach out to. Yeah, yeah,
you kind of lost that opportunity a little bit with
the extracurricular activities that the powers that be here in
the state.
Speaker 6: Were got a little messy. That's all right, a couple
a couple of different branches on that tree ball.
Speaker 5: But you're right. It is fun to watch things burn.
I love it. I love like I love is it
black Monday after the NFL season. I just love the drama.
I love it.
Speaker 2: He was getting fired.
Speaker 5: I love drama. I do. It's fun. That's what sports is,
reality television, and it's fantastic.
Speaker 2: You know who you sound like? Sound like Jerry Jones
right now?
Speaker 5: Stop it.
Speaker 2: He sounds just like Jerry Jones. Man. It's all about
drawing like boys, Yeah, cowboys fan. You sound just like
Jerry Jones.
Speaker 5: Right now.
Speaker 2: We gotta sound like we It's all about entertainment by
you know how Taylor. Come on, if anybody knows it
sound like Jerry Jones, No, you're don't.
Speaker 3: I don't want to punch Matt in the face so
he doesn't remind Jerry Jones at.
Speaker 2: You're right, you're right, you're right, right, you're right.
Speaker 5: I would have signed Michael Parkins Parsons.
Speaker 2: Hey man, George Pickings man, it's Pickings.
Speaker 5: Bad man, bad man.
Speaker 6: All right, we're not to spend any time talking about
the cowboys that we are not doing that, all right.
So one of the important things that did come out
of yesterday, The first place I saw was the athletic
so somebody else had a first apologize. But old miss
has to only iff and then he needs to decide.
By the November, the twenty eighth Egg Bowl, whether he
is staying at Old Miss or taking either the Florida
or the LSU job.
Speaker 5: So we are ten days away from that. So who
said that, you think the administration?
Speaker 6: Yes, So if they have set a ten day window on, hey,
you gotta let us know are you going to be
our coach?
Speaker 5: Are you going somewhere else?
Speaker 6: If he decides he's going somewhere else and they are
in a playoff run, I mean, somebody else is going
to coach Ole Miss.
Speaker 5: And we talked about it a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 6: There's times over the last couple of years that a
coach would probably have left his school if it wasn't
for either a conference championship that he wanted to coach
a major bowl game, who wanted to coach in certainly,
like you know, playoff comes into consideration here.
Speaker 5: Like there's been coaches.
Speaker 6: Over the last couple year that have you know, probably
stayed because they wanted to coach their team.
Speaker 5: So like there's that as well for Lane Kiffen. So
here's the thing that gets me. I keep saying, I
see all this stuff happening, and I can't get in
Lane's brain. I get it. Right, But like, why would
why would Lane Kiffin want to come to LSU? Why
would Lane Kiffen want to go to Florida? I get it,
their great jobs, they're blue bloods, blah blah blah. But
you're gonna you're gonna entertain taking a job somewhere else
for the potential to have the chance to play for
a national championship. But in doing so, you are going
to leave the opportunity that is already in front of
you to play for a national championship. That doesn't make
sense to me, Like you've already built this thing to
have the opportunity to make a run, so you could
potentially go to another school. You're gonna give that up
to go to another school to potentially have a chance
to make another run. Like why when they're going to
give you everything you want. I don't understand the move.
I don't understand why he would do it. And let's
be honest, Like, we don't think that the the great
puppet master of Jimmy Sexon is not making all of
this happen in front of our eyes. You don't think
he's waving a magic wand over everybody's eyes. You don't
think that there's a potential that he could have said, hey, plane,
get the kids, get the X, put them on a plane,
send them a bat and rage, take him shopping for
a few hours, send them back. It's gonna help. You
don't think that's a chance. I don't know. You don't
think there's that puppet Master is a nobody better in
the world than Jimmy. We are all playing right into
Jimmy Sexton's hands right now.
Speaker 6: So all right, let's do this because we're already fifteen
minutes in. It's probably gonna be a part of the
conversation here obviously in our number one. Let's step away.
We'll continue this conversation when we come back here. It
is OTB live from the Raisin Kine studio.
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check out Rouses Rouss dot com. All right, So talking
about well, LSU's next head football coach, and there's gonna
be one name, by the way, which we'll get to
in detail a little bit later on. James Franklin is
off the board. He has agreed to become the Virginia Tech.
Speaker 5: Head coach.
Speaker 6: Virginia Tech so thank you high because my, oh my, look,
I have nothing against James Franklin. He obviously can coach football,
but it just felt like that was going to be
the worst possible thing you could do if he was
the LSU football head coach for everybody involved. So Virginia Tech, congratulations.
Hopefully for your sake you can get back to the
early two thousands when you were winning ten eleven games
every single year and you were a part of the
conversation Lane Stadium is awesome. You got your guy, good luck.
Then it just feel right.
Speaker 5: It does that. That marriage feels really good. It feels
really comfortable, feels warm and cozy. You know, James frankly
can bring some of those traditions over there to Virginia Tech.
They can have a maroon out and the team can
wear orange. That would be fun to watch that in
that Metallica understand. Oh that's good, that is good scene.
Oh it's incredible. What was there? They played it earlier
this season? Right, I had saw that one clip of it.
The team was like zho and four whatever and the
place was still electric.
Speaker 3: You win, you win nine games if you're James Franklin junior.
I mean dude, you're you're good.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you're good. That's is that your that's your bucket list, right,
one of your bucket lists.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to go to a night game at
Lane Stadium when they're good, Like if.
Speaker 6: That place is it really doesn't matter if they're good
or bad to the atmosphere portion.
Speaker 5: I understand what you're saying. Oh, that's what I think.
The swamp is going to be called Lane Stadium. Oh
they're gonna have two, Yeah, they have two now like that,
it's part of the contract.
Speaker 6: All right, let's get to back to now, let's get
back to the Lane Kiffin situation.
Speaker 5: I already got back to it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, I mean I don't care about the Florida
if he goes to Florida, I don't really care about that.
Speaker 5: That's the Gators coach. Uh you asked. You were asking
the question about, like, why why would he do this?
Why would he do that? Because of where he's currently at,
Jordan and Tate. I'll open it up to y'all.
Speaker 6: First, Matt, that's the question, why would Lane Kiffin entertain
leaving Old miss To that point?
Speaker 5: What would you say?
Speaker 3: Two things? One, I think Lane Kiffin is capped at
Old Miss. I think that he's done about as much
as you.
Speaker 5: Can cats in what way and wins and losses or
in the recesses in success in success.
Speaker 3: Also, you don't know what they're going to do this
year though, do you think do you think they're gonna
win it all?
Speaker 5: They've lost one game to a top five team.
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't think they're gonna win it all.
Speaker 5: There's no like true Juggernaut this year. We don't know.
I mean we think Old Miss probably, but we don't
really know. Also, more money, you don't know Juggernaut in
the country. I mean Ohio State, I got it. But
like we were talking about yesterday, they still haven't like
shown us anything against you know, they played Texas. Who
else they played?
Speaker 6: No, I mean the eye test says yes, I understand
your question, and that wasn't it was very rhetorical.
Speaker 5: I mean, I do think that like in this day
and age people in the chat are talking, I get
like everything everybody's saying is correct. There's probably a cap
because you know, the best defensive players in the world.
Like the recruiting, they're always going to go to your
Florida's and your Georgia's and your host states, and I
get that we're just in a little bit different world.
I believe that there's going to be a non blue
blood national championship winning in the next couple of years.
Like I don't know who it's gonna be. I like
the Texas texts coming, Oh Missus coming, like all these teams. Like,
this is a different world we live in. And yeah,
you might not get you might not get the five
star guys out of high school, but you're sure as
hell going to get them to transfer them in the portal.
I mean, it's just a different world. You got to
take all that into consideration. I do believe a non
blue blood is going to win the national championship in
the next couple of years. I don't know. I don't
know if it's this year, I don't know if it's
in two years.
Speaker 2: Well, my my take will have to be that I
truly believe that Lane Kiffin sees himself as a main character,
Like he sees himself as one of those guys that's
going to be remembered in history. So I can that's
why I can feel like he wants to leave Old
miss in a sense because oh I'm laying Kiffing, I
can be the head coach of LSU and bring him
the glory. I can be the head coach of Florida
and being in the history books as one of the greats.
Because he always said that he looked up to Steve Spurrier.
So I feel like he wants to be one of
those guys that's on that pedal stoolhen it's all set
and done.
Speaker 5: But to counter argument to that is you're not making
history by doing that. Three other coaches have done that.
Speaker 2: You can last twenty years, but if you win at
certain spots, you can remember. I don't think I think,
like how Taylor said, deep down he knows he's not
gonna get it done at Ole Miss. So that's why
he's even entertaining this.
Speaker 5: If he thinks he's the main character, he thinks he
can get it done.
Speaker 3: I just take the fandom out of it. When you
look at LSU, everybody always says, oh, well, you know,
there's there's really no competition in the state. And you
can say, oh well, Ole Miss and Mississippi State, sure,
but you're also landlocked between elite programs. You got LSU
on one side of you, you got Alabama and Auburn
on the other side of you. It's like it or not,
you're a traditional SEC doormat. You're not any more, but
you still have catched it up to do. Like when
you're at LSU, you have everything you need right there
next to you.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I would. I would push back and say ls
hu's a top three job in America. I agree with that.
Speaker 6: I think when you look at you know, playing a
home game in both venues, I think that's completely different.
I think the buy in from everyone in the state
is completely different because you still share that state with
Mississippi State. I think you're having to squeeze every ounce
of everything you possibly can to get to where you're
at right now. And he's thinking, probably, wait, what if
I just did that at LSU, what would we look like?
Speaker 5: Then?
Speaker 6: Would we potentially be where Ohio State is, where consistently
every single year you're in the top five.
Speaker 5: And you're playing for championships. Man, I get that, and
I agree. I think I think's the top job. I
think it's the you know, a bare minimum of top
three job. Okay, I get it, But I'm asking a question,
why would he leave? Like from a competitor standpoint, he
is in the middle of a season where they have
a chance to win a national championship, and that man's
going to just leave them. Why would we want that?
Would we want to coach and just leave the team
on a national championship run? Get out of here.
Speaker 2: It's like a mic drop right there.
Speaker 5: You're just gonna leave those those kids that you've been coaching.
I'm with you. Ole miss is the.
Speaker 3: One that's apparently giving him this ultimatum of you got
to decide by next week.
Speaker 6: Like I just said that, that has kept coaches in
place and throughout the show, And I'll go back and
I'll give you three examples of guys that would have
probably left to take a bigger job, but they stayed
because they wanted to coach a conference championship, a big
bowl game, a playoff like whatever. It is. Like, there's
plenty of examples of doing that. I think John Summer
I would have left Tulane probably a year ago. I
think you would have and they were playing for a
conference championship and he's like, wait a minute, no, no, no,
hold up coaching this team, Like we got to this point,
I'm not leaving.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I get it, but that's it's bill
a different ballgame to me, Like you're losing, You're you're
giving up one conference championship to go do something bigger
in college football, Like you're fighting for the exact at
Old Miss. You're fighting for the exact same thing, and
you have a chance to get the exact same thing
that your goal would be at LSU.
Speaker 6: This is the first time, though, that they would ever
get to a point like this, and so like you
have to ask yourself how many times could we get
back to this point? And I don't think he would
be trying to leave his team. I think he would,
given the option, he would coach his team. But now
Old Miss is putting the deadline on it. I think
it's more Old Miss is telling him more than he's like,
I'm not coaching you. They're saying, no, if you leave,
you're not coaching.
Speaker 5: Yeah. If what would somebody if you were in that
situation and said you either sign this or you're not
coaching this team, I'd be like, all right, tell me
where to sign. H.
Speaker 2: I get your point though, because it's like starting a
relationship with a girl that was cheating on her previous boyfriend,
right and and not expecting her to cheat when y'all agether.
So I get what you're saying. So why would you
want that to be your head coach? And he's leaving
his team when they need him the most in the
season where they don't have one loss. So I mean,
I see both sides of the coin.
Speaker 5: Though. Ye maybe he's not signing because he's gonna take
the New York Giants job.
Speaker 2: That would be the biggest plot twist of all the time.
A lot of you know, coach Jackson Dart again like
that that that's Peter Lane everybody in the NFL instead
of the yeah he was year he was a Raiders
head coach. He was the head coach when they drafted
JaMarcus Yeah.
Speaker 5: And instead of like making an announcement, it's just camp scatterbooy,
just going into the camera. You think I was going
to lsu Miami job could open up.
Speaker 3: You always said he loved his time and in Florida
Atlanta head covering Boca a ton.
Speaker 2: Wellncoh.
Speaker 6: I was about to say he does. Look he loves
all shore fish. It's another plus realist.
Speaker 5: About to say, we kind of can't. You can't do
much and it's different it's a different all shore fish,
but so same same water. There's fishing water. It's in
the Gulf of America. Yep. Anyway, good fun, good friendly banter.
Speaker 2: Here, No, no, I get the juices flowing.
Speaker 5: Man. I think I think we've all come to the
conclusion that I'm.
Speaker 6: Right time will tell I'm gonna disagree with y'all saying
Less would have gone to Michigan if it wasn't for
Herbstreet announcing that.
Speaker 5: I'm going to disagree with that.
Speaker 6: From multiple people I've talked to over the last like
twenty years of hearing how all that played out. I'll
just say I disagree if Herbie wouldn't have broken that
that he would have left.
Speaker 5: We'll put it there. I don't a lot of questions
in the chat, like y'all, y'all forgetting something major Ole
miss is a stepping stone job, LSU isn't Who would
he leave us high and drive for? I mean, that's
just I mean, you're just assuming you're the prettiest girl
with the dance. I guess we think so, But I mean,
what if I don't know, what if Ryan Day left
Ohio State. I know there's a lot of hypotheticals, and
Marcus Freeman would be their name. I'm just saying, like,
I get it. They traditionally o miss as a stepping stone.
I got it, saying are they are they?
Speaker 2: When this day?
Speaker 5: A question different can be asked if they're willing to
pay and give you all the resources.
Speaker 2: But what would be crazy would be wild?
Speaker 5: Though?
Speaker 2: What is plan B if you don't get Lane Kiffin?
What's playing B now?
Speaker 5: Assuming that it's playing A.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it just feels like it's all the hullabluo going on.
Speaker 3: But like.
Speaker 2: I mean, you got my guy in the bushes recording.
Speaker 5: Like the trees.
Speaker 6: How many people had to just sit there at the
airport the hangar last night for a good.
Speaker 3: Hanging upside down from the tree branches literally looking.
Speaker 2: Got a sniper on the roof.
Speaker 5: So they got to watch yesterday that one of the
flight tracker websites crashed. Too many people tracking flights. That's
that's a that's a choice they actually need to track
flights to people caring about That is also a choice
that people have made.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of free time out there, a lot
of free time.
Speaker 5: It's wild. What a wild world those people fly around.
I heard say it was on a flight yesterday. Saving Yeah, definitely.
I don't know where it's going, just a connection. It's
going somewhere, going somewhere. Mmmm.
Speaker 6: Either way, if they go all in for any candidate,
there's a list like there's like all these coaching searches
like Virginia Tech, they're all in. Was James Franklin and
if it didn't work out, they would have been A two,
A three, a four. What was always the word when
when we hired Less it was Buyer Petrino. He was
the guy, like they were going hard after Buyer Patrino
and that was going to be the guy. Thank god
that did not work out. Less wasn't the first guy.
I didn't I don't remember that you were on the
team and everything. I didn't keep me up to date
on He didn't have you didn't have the social media obviously,
But No by Viatrino was like I even thought like
he was going to be the guy because like for me,
it was important because he doesn't really at that time,
he didn't run a fullback and I'm like, hmm, I
might need a coach who runs one of those if
I'm going to play here in this sophomore season, So.
Speaker 5: You gotta have a list. You got to have. Hey,
this is our guy.
Speaker 6: We're going to full court press, and if it doesn't
work out, we've got to feel good about two, three
or four on this list.
Speaker 5: So everybody's got that. I will just say that Lane
Kiffin has been since all this dumb flight tracking stuff
and taking pictures of private jets and speculating over who's
in it who's not in it, and taking like Bigfoot
type videos of it a mile away. I ain't even
has tweeted it some pretty aggressive pro ole miss tweets
since then, with lots of blue and red hearts emojis.
Just want you to realize that, or or I can
maybe it's Jimmy Sexton tweeting. I mean the giants now
we are all We're just we're just ponds in the
Jimmy Sexton world right now. People just want you to
know that.
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and play catch up right now. Sure it's gonna be
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Speaker 3: I'm doing getting money?
Speaker 6: What be doing?
Speaker 1: They crowdcast and mons still from the locker room to
the airwaves. Gets off the bench with Jacob Hester and
Matt Flynn.
Speaker 5: That's all I.
Speaker 1: Gotta say j c Lin the money in a way
and I'm sitting against the rab blaze of a rap flat.
Speaker 5: And might die. I've got it all right, Welcome back
in O TV from the eighties. Wait a month. I'm
just not here, so we're figing it up, just kidding.
Speaker 6: Anytime, anytime Jordan comes in, we go pretty much all
Louisiana rat always.
Speaker 1: And it is.
Speaker 5: It's a great job. You and Moose both back to
back days. All done.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Loose had done in this bag.
Speaker 5: Well I didn't either, but he did. I knew Jordan did.
I did not know Moose did.
Speaker 6: Uh, we'll get the show started a little bit later
on Uh, probably the top of the second hour.
Speaker 5: We're gonna do that.
Speaker 6: We got to continue the same conversation, though, I will
say this, I think in these coaching searches and when
we're asking the questions of why, and look, Matt and
I were were raised, we were formed and asking why.
It was Jimbo Fisher's biggest thing.
Speaker 5: You gotta tell me why, Tell me why, JaMarcus. If
you're not asking the question why and everything in life,
you just that's very fair.
Speaker 6: I tell Jimbo all the time and like, that's a
life lesson that I took because like, the thing I
hate is when somebody gets up here, it's like I
can't run the ball, I can't protect.
Speaker 5: Okay, well, why can't they run the ball? Why can't
they protect? Show me? Why? Tell me why?
Speaker 6: So you got to find the why to some of
the questions you're asking. I think we also have to
ask ourselves and remind well, just remind ourselves and look,
we have them as players. We have egos as players,
as professional football players, we have egos.
Speaker 5: You have to have a little bit of one. I
think take it. Coaches have massive egos, massive egos.
Speaker 6: And that's okay, Like, yeah, I think that that makes
the most successful ones like who they are.
Speaker 5: I'm not even saying in a bad way.
Speaker 6: So they want to make the most money, they want
to be on the biggest stage, they want to have
the prime time games, they want to coach in Tiger Stadium, all, Like,
all of that plays into it too when you're asking
the why of why would you leave where you're currently at?
Why would you want to go somewhere else when you
have an opportunity to, you know, meet your main goal
with where you're currently at within this season.
Speaker 5: I think we have to remember that, like they want.
Speaker 6: To be on all the things that we talk about
in college football and Death Valley and LSU, and so
there's that portion of it too.
Speaker 5: Yeah, there is. I mean I get it. No, not
one thing that I said that I ever mean to
like be that LSU's not a top job, because it is.
I just think we're in a different world of college football.
We're a different climate of recruiting and player manager forgot,
I mean for crid Out and we got general managers
and salary caps. So it's a little bit different, different world.
And I get it. Yeah, you want to Tiger Stadium
in Death Alley, It's like there's a there's a nostalgia,
there's an aura behind that, there's a reverence behind that
throughout all college coaches and college programs maybe not all
maybe not all players, but certainly coaches and so to
have that on your side is amazing. It just my
question from why just comes in the literal situation that
we're sitting here on what November eighteenth, twenty twenty five,
Ole miss is in a situation where their whole state, politicians,
the university is telling Lane Kiffin we will give you
whatever you want. And oh yeah, you're also in a
playoff hunt and with a chance and opportunity. Now it's
maybe a big long odds against it, but you got
a chance to play for a national championship. Yeah. Like,
I'm just talking about the situation we're into right today.
That question is now, maybe the question is, yeah, of course,
yeah coorse, I'll I would take the job at LSU
and leave Ole Miss. Maybe that's the answer. I'm just
asking the question of why I think we can all
ask that, and then also why is there so much
hoopla about it? Does everybody out there actually think Lane
Kiffin is the best college football coach right now?
Speaker 6: I think that you think he's the best college I
think the one that you would put ahead of him,
Ryan Day obviously he's either Ohio State or NFL.
Speaker 5: Like not going anywhere.
Speaker 6: Kirby Obviously, Kirby's playing coaching where he played. Ain't going
anywhere like Dan Lane. Dan Lanning's in that conversation for sure,
He's for sure in that conversation. So I think it's
a short list. But of the coaches on the short list,
I don't think any of them are going anywhere else,
like if you're if you're at Oregon, Like.
Speaker 5: My question is how did Lane Kiffin get on the
top of that.
Speaker 6: List from taking Ole Miss a team that would have
a year here and there, and they had some an
under huge freeze, They certainly had some years, but taking
Old Miss to consistently being a part of the conversation.
It hasn't always gone his way in his coaching career.
I mean Tennessee USC Oakland Raiders, for sure. I mean
is the reason he had to kind of go back
to being your coordinator in Tuscaloosa and rehabilitai and it worked.
Speaker 5: It worked, right, It's okay, get over him going for
it on his own twenty five. Yeah, that really bothered you.
That hurts you. Bothered me to, It bothered me to
like he made three of the thought bad coaching moves.
I mean we've talked about it. I mean we've all
said it, like he's lost games every single year he's
coached that he shouldn't. Hell, we beat him last year
lost the Kentucky Uh, Darius, I mean you like, yeah, Dan,
and you can like you know, you would ask one
hundred people. Fifty might say Lane. Fifty might say Dan Lanning,
and that's not in absolutes. I think Dan Lane's a
hell of a football coach though either way. Hmm uh.
Speaker 6: You know Elko, Elko's got some some stuff. He's still
got to go out there and prove for sure, but
so far, so good for him.
Speaker 5: M mmmmmmm.
Speaker 6: So you're gonna give us like who your top top
name is? Then top guy realistically?
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, Kirby Smart, I said, realistic calls Shanahan like
the Rabel, Bam mcgump, anyone. But drink. You got to
explain that one. Why not drink? There's a lot of
like drink, a lot.
Speaker 6: Of hate around drink. And I'm like, and I know,
trust man, and I know are you know a couple
of our guys. My guy brand is putting up the
record of you know, against ranked SEC teams and all that.
Like you have to remember he's also at Missouri and
he's close to winning thirty games in three years at Missouri.
Speaker 5: So I think there's benefits of hiring Eli Drinkwitz.
Speaker 6: I think the entire defensive staff would stay in place,
and I think the continuity there would be awesome because
that was his defense staff for the most part at Missouri.
I think you would obviously retain Corey Raymond because the
next coach, don't do that.
Speaker 5: Don't do that again. So and Drink did the end unthinkable.
He is almost He's got me to where I'm almost
going to admit that they're in the SEC. Not yet.
Think about how hard that is for Matt to almost
admit that.
Speaker 3: I want Drink what's to get the job so that
we could get him on. And you'd be like, so, coach,
what's it phil like to be in the SEC? Yeah,
welcome to the SEC. You nervous reason alone. Yeah, all right,
we gotta take a break.
Speaker 6: We'll take that break more OTB when we come back
here live from the Raisin King studio.
Speaker 5: Off the bench. All right, So we are very.
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remember the old atrium, right, well, we've all done an
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new valley, and the new valleys is in right, like
you won't even recognize.
Speaker 5: It doesn't look like a distant cousin to what it
used to be.
Speaker 6: We got a tour last week two weeks ago, and
the entire place is incredible. I mean it is a
true transformation. The dining depot is incredible. We're going to
love it. The Draftking Sports Book is incredible.
Speaker 5: Every every truly like like unrecognized. It really is.
Speaker 6: Like it's hard, like if you've been to the atrium
and then you go and see it now, like you're
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Speaker 5: I'm not saying that lightly. Like it is state of
the art. Uh.
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Speaker 1: Make blocked in on l s U Football twenty four
to seven. You're listening to off the bench.
Speaker 6: All right, real quick, I do have a question to
the crowd here. We're playing Louisiana rap today, Louisiana music.
That's what Jordan does. We always appreciate it. Does fifty
cent get brother in law into this. Now that he's
basically the president of Trethport, he counts it now, I
think he does. I mean he's taken over the entire city,
brought up a lot of building. I'm just saying, Likesana.
He's got a place there Louisiana adjacent.
Speaker 5: Maybe sure you're you're.
Speaker 2: The captain of the three one eight, So if you
whatever you say it.
Speaker 5: Goes ever, think about that. I'll think about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just a part time three one, but you
know you hey shout out the.
Speaker 5: Video though, that was definitely because it did it definitely needed.
Speaker 6: That, all right, continuing on down the road and so
so much, so much hate for my guy Eli inside
the by U four chat.
Speaker 5: I do love that.
Speaker 6: Like some people don't even like have any stats or
facts and they don't want any statuffactors like, yeah, Eli's
a nerd.
Speaker 5: We're not hiring that guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah nerd, And that can't spend his last name. That's
all it is.
Speaker 5: That's all. It's just like you were gonna leave it
at that. So it's just he didn't pass eye test.
Yeah again.
Speaker 6: And at some point today tomorrow we'll go back and
we'll take we'll take a look at what this LSU
defense has been able to do in some of the
bigger moments this year, and again without wit Weeks for
a large portion of the season in the.
Speaker 5: Middle of the defense.
Speaker 6: I do think having continuity and keeping that side of
the football and obviously having Corey Raymond, you know, not
ever leave issue again and a guy like Kyle Williams
who just came in and again he's just the defensive tackles,
not on the edges, and you just look at the
growth and that's a group that there wasn't a lot there.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna be honest with you, Well, there wasn't a
ton there.
Speaker 6: And he's made those players much much better, and guys
that have been in college for like four or five years,
and so he's improved guys that have already been here,
and you can kind of see the growth. And he's
got some real dogs coming at that position in this
recruiting class and so that like that's a portion of
it as well.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And this has been a good little conversation, good
little hour, good little talk about the lane train, lane talk,
the lane plane. Yeah, I'm over here just fist fighting
through the bushes out here trying to defend these takes. Actually,
I don't even think I had to take. All I
had is questions, question marks.
Speaker 3: They were valid. I have some of the same questions.
They were valid.
Speaker 5: We all should have questions about who our next head
coach is going to be. I think Lane is a
fantastic coach to your top choice, but he's not the
only one to your top choice. No ooh.
Speaker 6: On the other side, when we come back to get
this thing truly started, Flen's gonna give you his top choice,
whether he likes it or not, because that's how you
do it in radio, Flynn. You throw up the t's
and when we come back an hour or two, you're
gonna give us your top choice of who should the
next LSU Tigers football coach be, right here on TV,
off the bench,