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You know, people ask me, like, you know, how do

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you feel about doing shows like when there's a lot

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of controversy, I'm like, I hate it. I'd rather talk football.

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I'd rather talk basketball, rather talk extras and o's. I'd

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rather than the the the these the dramas of individual

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Speaker 1: Anyway. But that's neither here and there there.

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Speaker 3: I'm having a great day and I want to talk

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about getting back into the game. One thing I will say,

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as it released to Parker Kingston, I want to ask

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you this. It's a it's a topic I approached in

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the in the last hour. Parker Kingston was a really

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good football player. He will be missed on the football field,

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There's no doubt about it. And I don't know if

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there's anyone on the roster right now then I'm looking

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at that can fill the void. I just I don't

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see it. I want to be I want to be optimistic.

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You know me, You've been around me enough, Like I'm

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an optimistic cuman. I'm pragmatic, sure, but but I'm just

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not seeing it. Look last couple of seasons, you look

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at Parker Kingston's statistical at Brigham. He's got ninety eight

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receptions one three hundred twenty seven yards thirteen point five

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yards per reception, seven touchdowns receiving, rushing the ball thirty

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nine rushes, one hundred and seventy two yards four point

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four yards per carry, three touchdowns. He's passed the ball

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extremely well. He's a good he's a good cornerback. For

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four completions on eleven attempts. I guess it's not great

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thirty six point four percent comp but one hundred and

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eighteen yards. He got three tonnies through the air. Then

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as a returner, okay, a returner, forty five receptions or

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forty five attempts, five hundred and eighteen yards, three touchdowns

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on punts, and then an additional six returns for one

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hundred and sixty four yards on kickoffs. I just don't

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know how you can replace that amount of productivity. If

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there is one or two guys that could step up,

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who are they and why?

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Speaker 5: Man?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, his production is gonna be really hard to replace.

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was able to do towards the end of last year.

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he got uh, he got injured, and so I think

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his his season overall got disrupted, and so you hope

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to see Jojo take that next step.

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Speaker 6: Another name that you that.

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Speaker 4: That I've heard in the past, and and we didn't

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see a lot of them this year. In fact, I

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don't know if they were just trying to keep his

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red shirt or what was going on, but it is

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it Reggie Reggie. I've heard. He's got incredible speed, He's

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a good receiver. Am I mistaken? Is his dad? Was

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his dad a professional athlete?

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Speaker 1: Yes? Yes he was? Yes, Okay heard that.

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Speaker 4: I mean there's some there's some stuff to work with there.

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And then he's he's also a big, big frame receiver,

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which I know that that obviously, Uh, Parker was not that.

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I I don't know about some of the guys that

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transferred in. I don't know about the production you're gonna

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get from some of these young Is it the poola brothers, Yeah,

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Jared and Kenned, Yeah, I'm not sure. I mean, it's

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on whether or not they're going to be able to

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come in and compete at the highest level. That being said,

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I mean, some of the highlights from them are absolutely phenomenal, right,

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and so you get excited about that kind of stuff.

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And then the only other names that come to mind is,

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you know, Cody Hagen was an animal in high school.

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You look at him and you're like, Okay, is he

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going to be that guy that takes that next step?

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And then obviously the pedigree with with Nikuah, with Tay Nikua,

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you hope that he can have you know, that that

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Puka like production. But I don't know honestly, Like, if

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if I were to have to put my money on

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it today, it's probably gonna be Jojo because we heard

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about him all fall camp being like that next guy

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behind Chase, and then it ended up being Parker and

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then Parker leap frog Chase. So you hope that it's Jojo,

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But honestly, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I think it's got to be by committee. I don't

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think there's one guy that's the thing. It's gonna have

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to be by committee and I feel like from a

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skill set standpoint, and then look if veryone could be

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Terrence Sarian. You know it's a guy that just they

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just brought in to the twenty twenty six class. He

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was a three slash four star recruit and he's got

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similar build, body type. You know, he's fleet of foot,

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he's pretty twitchy. Terrence Sarians is a guy that we

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got to look out for maybe, and he's put up

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He put up some good, really good numbers in high school.

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Speaker 1: Like I said he was.

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Speaker 3: He's five foot eleven, one seventy five Evergreen High School, Portland, Oregon,

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three star recruit twenty four to seven sports uh. He

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was recruited by cal Colorado State, Illinois, Oregon in Washington.

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He had one thousand, two ninety nine total receiving yards

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his high school career, including eight hundred and eighteen his

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junior year, ten receiving touchdowns and one rushing touchdown in

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the cycle high school career.

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Speaker 1: Great footwork.

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Speaker 3: He he kind of has a has a Parker Kingston

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feel to him and his hypeweight and athletic ability. But

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you didn't get Parker doing what Parker does until you

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know sophomore junior, and this gets a true freshman. So

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it's hard to put a lot of stock, a lot

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of cachet into a young true freshman. We don't typically

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see that at Brigham. You don't see that at the

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power four level. So it's gonna have to be a

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committee approach. Now, you may not have Parker, but you

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do have a ton of big, strong, physical wide receivers.

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Speaker 1: Once upon a time.

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Speaker 3: Okay, BYU in a in the independence era, and it

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was kind of a Robert and I initiative, they had

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Speaker 1: Long and big wide receivers.

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Speaker 3: Ross Oppo six', Four Cody hoffman six,' Four mitch matthews,

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six' six like you go, Down The, line tarren hawk

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who was kind of a wide receiver. Tight end type

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he was like six. Five sixty six they maybe didn't

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have the, top end speed but they had size and

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the ability to body up smaller defensive backs and stave

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them off right as they would.

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Speaker 1: High POINT footballs and i.

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Speaker 3: See a little bit of that, on this roster as You,

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mentioned with Reggie Right, with Kyler, casper with jojo all,

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of those dudes they almost look. Like tight ends, let's

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be honest like they're like they're like they're like extensions

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of the tight end, Room QUITE honestly and, i don't,

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know you know like we'll see how. Fast they are

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they may be, blazing fast too but the size and

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playmaking ability and high pointy you get a lot of fifty.

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fastest guy on. The football field when you got a,

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bunch of big strong athletic and then they got two,

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big tight ends two four star tight ends that have

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a similar bill to one that Can Block And roger

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Speaker 1: Body guys who's the way to?

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Speaker 3: Go going forward and Maybe The architect aaron roderick will

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find a way to maximize, the skill sets the the

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the the clay that he has.

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Speaker 1: In the, Room, YOUR thoughts.

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Speaker 4: YEAH i think i think you're gonna have to. Do something,

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there you know it's funny you mentioned all those guys

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because it just brings Back Memories, of cody hoffin like

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high pointing the ball and. Stuff like that so it'll

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be interesting to see how they're used this. This upcoming season,

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BUT who, knows i mean it'll be really really interesting

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to see what ends up Happening With how aaron roderk uses.

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All THESE guys but, i will say really nice, to

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have two uh two all down backs with or three

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down Backs With with Salia Pagan and walker lions, already right,

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there that's. Very VERY helpful so i also, WILL say

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this i don't think anyone or most people saw the

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was it his sophomore year, and last year. His, JUNIOR

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him being the number one. Receiver last, YEAR in fact

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Speaker 6: At best.

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Speaker 4: Or three. Two at best and so there is probably

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a guy on this roster who is developing right now

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who's gonna. Take that, leap once again we don't know,

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who THAT is but I would say parker came out

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of the blue and he was a. Very pleasant surprise

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the parker that he, ended, Up becoming RIGHT and so

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i feel like there's someone there's a guy on this

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team right now that's gonna take the opportunity AND really

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excel i just don't know who.

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break i also wonder If bigger body reggie can lay

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a hybrid inside slot receiver.

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Speaker 1: Tight, en position.

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Speaker 3: Yeah MAYBE possibly, like i SAID like when, i WAS

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you see, what's coming back and you begin to, look

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at height weight. And athletic ability And You've, seen, jojo

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phillips Right. We love jojo jojo came on a little

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bit stronger this last year towards the end after suffering

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Speaker 1: In the season six. Five, to five okay it's a big.

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big body, dude big dude and.

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Speaker 1: He can run You Look.

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Speaker 3: At Kyler casper kyler casper in the, same mold, man,

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his height weight he may be a little bit thicker.

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Speaker 1: Than these guys two six. Six.

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Speaker 3: To twelve okay so you take the those three guys.

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Speaker 1: Seen, this before yes you have, ladies and gentlemen.

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Speaker 3: Boys and Girls How about ross oppo you six three

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six Four Two ten cody hoffman sixty Four, To Ten

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like the two thousand and thirteen MAYBE Two thy fourteen.

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Byu cougar football team that that that's those stats that

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were being tallied and accrewed. By those wide receivers, there's

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a good group productive group at that guys.

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Speaker 1: That could body the.

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Speaker 3: The smaller defensive backs maybe that's.

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Speaker 1: Are.

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Speaker 3: Our way going forward maybe that's the way that we.

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We moved the sticks and remember you got two tight

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ends that are six four two forty Five Walker, lines

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of roger saliapaga two. Four star tight ends so maybe

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we're gonna have a bunch of just massive wide receivers

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on the freaking field that in fifty to fifty and moss.

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Speaker 1: Some dudes this year we may we may not be utilizing.

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Speaker 3: The speed as much and remember we ran the ball

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really well this last year and our play. Action was on, point,

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the play action though was not vertical play, action fifty

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yard bombs seven man pro six member that's. Not what

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we did our intermediate passion game is where we thrived.

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strength is.

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Speaker 3: Solid it's, not elite. He's accurate great vision. He's a

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layered thrower he's. An ant, anticipatory thrower so oh. It

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may be wise if you're, not gonna go deep you

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go intermediate. With the big bodies, does that make, sense

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ladies and. GENTLEMEN boys and girls. I could see. IT

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you know. The three point shot, we all love it

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but maybe we need to just be intermediate and.

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we got tad. Walch, on the line tad?

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Speaker 1: How theck are, You.

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Speaker 6: I'm, doing well ben. Crittle how are, you.

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Speaker 1: I'M doing fantastic.

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Speaker 3: Man i appreciate you hopping on to discuss the latest

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calling Handed down From The church Of Jesus. Christ Or Letter,

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saints elder clark gilbert who has been overseeing the church,

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educational system.

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Speaker 1: Over ces has Been called to The Quorum.

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Speaker 3: Of the twelve apostles so initial, Reaction To, THE news tad.

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Speaker 6: Well, i was very surprised just because he used.

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Speaker 1: To.

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Speaker 6: Be my boss uh he used to BE the president

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And Ceo, at the Desert news and so i've sat

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in leadership meetings with him weekly for. A couple of

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years worked closely with him AS an editor when i

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was an editor at the paper, and as a reporter

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and so It's it's someone who's i've known more than

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any other possible. Before they were called so that was. That,

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Speaker 1: What would you say How Would You.

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Speaker 3: Describe elder clark gilbert you've had many interactions with, him

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over the, year over the years and you, know sometimes you, know,

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it's always intriguing right like the proximity that we have

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to these men That.

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Speaker 1: Are called of god.

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Speaker 3: And through, divine authority you know, there's a human nature

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there's a spiritual nature. To all of it you have.

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Speaker 6: He is one of the most energetic, people you've ever

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met one. Of the hardest working he will work from

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early in the, morning throughout the day and then he

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takes time off to be with his, family in the

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evening and then you'll start getting texts from him between

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ten and midnight and, he's back, to work. You know

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just grinding He's also just wildly this is someone who,

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could have you know he's he's given up millions and

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millions of, dollars in his lifetime left millions on the

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table that he could have earned. In the. BUSINESS world

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he did i think he did well in business when

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he was Also working as. A Harvard business professor but

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i've had conversations with him where he's talked about money

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left on the Table when he left HARVARD, To go

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to byu idaho and then left money on the table

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to come And Be. At the desert news and that's just.

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Speaker 3: As the lord's will as As he's overseen, the church

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educational system, and from your, purview from your perch what

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have you. SEEN that, he's done i Mean He's Been

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overseeing brigham young university and the other Institutions that fall under,

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here is his. Jurisdiction, under his calling essentially how would

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stands out for me as someone who has covered the

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i'm struck by the equally energetic men that he has

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bye pathway worldwide. Have all been named While He was The,

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you know adhering to core principles of the, church and

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church doctrine requiring temple recommends for those hired to, be

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00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:10,400
on the faculty and that has some people have. Expressed

470
00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:15,799
ANGST about that but i also GET a ton of

471
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:19,119
i got a ton yesterday of responses from PEOPLE at

472
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,960
b y u, and elsewhere who said this, is my

473
00:24:22,039 --> 00:24:26,240
favorite guy this. IS this is wonderful i, like what he's,

474
00:24:26,279 --> 00:24:28,839
DOING and you KNOW i think his i also think

475
00:24:28,839 --> 00:24:33,279
it's interesting to me to see some people saying who aren't,

476
00:24:33,759 --> 00:24:38,079
don't like those things, putting it on, him and to.

477
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:43,480
Me that's that's laughable The Reality is The church commissioner

478
00:24:43,519 --> 00:24:47,279
of education is, not operating outside, of or apart from

479
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:49,680
Or Separate from The, church board of education which is

480
00:24:49,759 --> 00:24:52,400
led by the profit and president of the church and

481
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:56,079
apostles and other. Officers of the church so those are

482
00:24:56,119 --> 00:25:00,920
things that the church has felt the church leadership generalist felts,

483
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:05,480
are important and necessary and there's also legal reasons and

484
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:09,319
other accreditation reasons. Why you do that if if you,

485
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:14,759
drift from core principles that can that that can lead

486
00:25:14,799 --> 00:25:18,039
to a lot of change that that some people will

487
00:25:18,279 --> 00:25:21,680
will question what is, your mission as university both legally

488
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:27,759
accreditation wise as well as. Just, WITHIN the CHURCH yeah i.

489
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:29,519
Speaker 3: Mean i started to read UP on a little, i wasn't,

490
00:25:29,559 --> 00:25:32,200
aware that you know he had been somewhat of a

491
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:36,200
controversial figure for him taking what would seem as a

492
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:41,640
hardline stance, in a traditional SENSE aligning with what i would,

493
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:45,400
deem is the moral ethical principles And, ordinances of the

494
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:48,359
gospel and that you should you should, be bought into

495
00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:51,519
those especially If You're Teaching. At brigham young university but,

496
00:25:51,559 --> 00:25:55,000
apparently that's, you know you. KNOW it was controversial i

497
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,079
don't know if you can go, Into IT any further

498
00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:00,400
but i didn't know that he, was too to agree

499
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:03,359
and it sounds like he's got a Tremendous amount of

500
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,720
support i've always felt like, he, was very supported right

501
00:26:07,079 --> 00:26:09,319
but it's into a degree there, were, people that said

502
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,319
hey we don't like that he takes such a hard

503
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:12,039
line stance on.

504
00:26:12,079 --> 00:26:14,160
Speaker 1: These on, these ISSUES you know.

505
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 6: Then i LOOK at this like i, look at let's

506
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:22,960
say The Chancellor Of the Higher California, system of higher education.

507
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:27,200
Who's over twenty schools do you think you could find

508
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:29,759
some professors at some of those schools who have a.

509
00:26:29,759 --> 00:26:33,400
Problem with the chancellor. Of, Course you do yes you're going.

510
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:36,240
TO find that everywhere i have the. SAME experience as

511
00:26:36,279 --> 00:26:40,920
you i do not find, people clamoring, and uh you know.

512
00:26:41,039 --> 00:26:43,839
LARGE groups of people i think this is controversial with

513
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:49,359
a smaller group of people and. The rest are uh

514
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,359
you know understand that he's in alignment with church leaderships

515
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,640
And This IS. What president russell m Nelson Wanted AND.

516
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:59,720
What president don h, oaks wanted and uh and he's

517
00:26:59,799 --> 00:27:03,519
been part, of that. CHAIN now, same thing i mean

518
00:27:03,559 --> 00:27:06,039
you can go back through church. COMMISSIONERS of Education Too

519
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:09,359
I MEAN. Elder president jeffrey r holland when he Was

520
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,599
church commissioner of education. Had A Few critics elder paul

521
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:16,400
johnson when he Was church commissioner, of education just before

522
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:20,279
just just. Recently had some critics but these were men

523
00:27:20,319 --> 00:27:23,640
who church leadership. Held in high esteem, most of the,

524
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:28,920
church as We Know especially With President. Holland loved PRESIDENT

525
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:33,920
holland and so I think this. IS i don't know

526
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:37,039
i think to call it controversial is a little, blown

527
00:27:37,039 --> 00:27:37,680
out of proportion.

528
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,519
Speaker 3: No Doubt about it TAD walch here On esp And

529
00:27:40,559 --> 00:27:43,720
The FAN. Discussing elder clark g gilbert being called to

530
00:27:43,759 --> 00:27:46,240
The Corner. Of the twelve apostles you know The question

531
00:27:46,279 --> 00:27:48,720
that because, i'm a SPORTS guy right and i, do

532
00:27:48,799 --> 00:27:51,559
not worship sports it. Is not my idol It's just

533
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,039
something that i'm passionate about. As, A SIDE hustle okay

534
00:27:54,079 --> 00:27:55,759
so i got to clear that up For all of

535
00:27:55,799 --> 00:27:57,920
the kingdom builders out there that like to. Poke upon,

536
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,400
AT me but look i want to know how this.

537
00:28:00,519 --> 00:28:03,119
May impact bo athletics, stat of your opinion give me, Your,

538
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:03,720
thoughts on this.

539
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,400
Speaker 6: Oh one hundred PERCENT if, you're a bau fan you

540
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,440
should be doing. Triple backflips right now you should be

541
00:28:10,079 --> 00:28:13,759
joining the joining the dunk team that don't.

542
00:28:13,799 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 1: Let go.

543
00:28:14,759 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 6: At halftime this guy if you THINK you're, a big

544
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,319
bau fan if you think you MIGHT be, The biggest

545
00:28:20,319 --> 00:28:23,400
bau fan you're gonna Have To Go through, elder clark

546
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:27,599
gilbert first because this guy is, Dyed In The wool.

547
00:28:28,039 --> 00:28:33,319
Cosmo blue COUGAR fan he loves bou sports and he.

548
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:36,440
Wants it to succeed he wants it to succeed. At

549
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:38,680
the highest level he wants to do it while adhering

550
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,480
to the again the core, principles of the church and

551
00:28:41,559 --> 00:28:43,240
to have it BE as you and i have talked,

552
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:47,000
about in the past a welcoming front porch for the

553
00:28:47,039 --> 00:28:49,799
World to see what ba's about and what the mission of.

554
00:28:49,839 --> 00:28:54,119
The church is about so he is one thousand percent

555
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:57,440
bought in. On all of That and SO if, I'm a,

556
00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:00,880
byu fan i'm like you can get me a seat

557
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:04,960
next to this guy because. Because we're, going, somewhere yeh.

558
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 1: LITERALLY Yeah as do i. I'm. Excited for, it now you know.

559
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:13,359
Speaker 3: There's there's been some controversial things that have happened over

560
00:29:13,359 --> 00:29:17,000
the last year or so IN association with, b a

561
00:29:17,119 --> 00:29:21,160
student athletes student athletes falling short of the standard legal

562
00:29:21,279 --> 00:29:26,160
issues for those that do not believe that bo athletics

563
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:31,519
should or is a ambassadortorial ambassadorial tool for good. Or

564
00:29:31,599 --> 00:29:33,440
the front porch it shouldn't be the front. Ports of

565
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:38,440
the university when you, see these, things happen, YOU know you,

566
00:29:38,519 --> 00:29:41,319
Know i, often wonder i'm like what what is the

567
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:46,720
internal collaboration and correlation and response from these individuals that

568
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:50,680
are in in the coorm that DO believe in maybe

569
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,400
ba athletics and when they see this false short is

570
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:57,200
there are they a little bit more reticent, to maybe

571
00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,599
you know be as supportive in bo athletic when.

572
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,279
Speaker 1: THESE things do happen i.

573
00:30:03,319 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 6: DON'T think redicin starts. I think correction starts i think the,

574
00:30:09,279 --> 00:30:12,319
idea is to say let's make sure we're doing what

575
00:30:13,519 --> 00:30:16,240
needs to be done so, that this is corrected so

576
00:30:16,279 --> 00:30:19,920
that this, isn't an ongoing issue so that everyone's. Clear

577
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:24,119
about the standards but, IT seems, to me i mean

578
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:27,640
IF you've been following byu football and basketball over the,

579
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:31,359
last couple of years you've also seen the, university and

580
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:36,279
by extension because it doesn't do things without The approval Of,

581
00:30:36,279 --> 00:30:39,960
the Board of Education the board of EDUCATION double. DOWN on,

582
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:43,599
ba sports i mean this is an era of growth

583
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:47,160
and expansion. And the football program we've seen The New.

584
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:52,240
Contract with klonie satake we've seen the support for moving

585
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:56,720
into the nil era for football and basketball and all

586
00:30:56,799 --> 00:31:00,240
of that is going on under the. Approval of church

587
00:31:00,319 --> 00:31:03,759
leadership so this is to me a time when we

588
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:07,039
see the church leadership is does believe it? Has an

589
00:31:07,079 --> 00:31:11,759
ambassadorial role do they do believe? This is a positive

590
00:31:12,599 --> 00:31:16,200
but they are of course going to be terribly concerned

591
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:20,400
about these instances and wanting to. See that Cleaned Up.

592
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 3: We got tad WELL Cheer, talking obviously Bua Athletics But

593
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:29,319
also elder clark gilbert his call to The Corner, of

594
00:31:29,359 --> 00:31:33,640
the twelve apostles AND you know it's i think he

595
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,839
Wrote A Piece. On, elder clark gilbert Correct It's in,

596
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,720
THE desright News currently i believe i'm just, pointed.

597
00:31:39,519 --> 00:31:42,799
Speaker 6: OUT he yes yes i did a story, yesterday after

598
00:31:42,839 --> 00:31:45,559
the CALLING and then today i interviewed him FOR twenty

599
00:31:45,599 --> 00:31:47,559
minutes and i have a new story up about that

600
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:51,200
interview and his things that he talked about that have

601
00:31:51,279 --> 00:31:56,839
shaped him and his background with knowing apostles now that.

602
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,319
Speaker 3: He, has become one yeah so give me a little

603
00:31:59,319 --> 00:32:01,119
bit more detail the piece when we invite up one

604
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:04,839
to Read it at The. Deser rednewsdsret Dot com It's,

605
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:08,640
entitled In, New Interview NEW. Apostle elder clark g gilbert

606
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:10,240
shares details of his call and.

607
00:32:10,279 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 1: What has shaped him so THE.

608
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 6: First question that, i asked him Was you know Who

609
00:32:15,279 --> 00:32:19,720
i've known that clerk has, Been Mentored, by APOSTLES elder gilbert,

610
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:23,319
so i asked him what was the? First apostle you

611
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,400
Met And IT. Was, president spencer w kimball who then

612
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,440
was president Of The church when elder gilbert. Was ten

613
00:32:28,519 --> 00:32:30,759
years old and he tells a Great Story about how

614
00:32:31,559 --> 00:32:34,359
President kimball Came To arizona where elder gilbert was living

615
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,880
as a, ten year old boy and he was so

616
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,359
excited to meet the church president for the first time

617
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,799
that after, he shook his hand he ran to the

618
00:32:41,799 --> 00:32:44,079
back of the line and got back in it and

619
00:32:44,319 --> 00:32:46,240
went back to, shake his hand again and did that's,

620
00:32:46,279 --> 00:32:50,400
four or five. Times he told me and then we

621
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,640
go into and talk about these these. Mentors That HE'S.

622
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:57,160
Had president jeffrey r holland sealed him and his wife.

623
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:02,000
When They WERE. Married president henry b iiring has been

624
00:33:02,039 --> 00:33:07,319
a close confidant and mentor for him at, both his

625
00:33:07,599 --> 00:33:11,559
you know business professors in their pasts and so uh

626
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:15,319
it talks about that and about how he was shaped

627
00:33:15,359 --> 00:33:18,440
by decisions when he that he started to make to

628
00:33:18,839 --> 00:33:24,400
go into church employment and service more than following the possible.

629
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:28,480
Business opportunities HE had and so i think there's some

630
00:33:28,519 --> 00:33:32,559
interesting things there that people will find intriguing and. Worthwhile

631
00:33:32,559 --> 00:33:34,640
to Know. About the new apostle.

632
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:39,519
Speaker 3: Always intrigued about leadership and, division that these uh these

633
00:33:40,079 --> 00:33:43,559
these chosen elect men, have for the church for its

634
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:47,279
members uh and and also for the the institutions that

635
00:33:47,359 --> 00:33:51,599
they they help administer to and govern down eighth jokes

636
00:33:52,359 --> 00:33:57,480
the profit he he was at by you this past week. And,

637
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:02,640
gave it devotional, uh your your thoughts your. TAKEAWAYS from

638
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:04,200
the devotional i don't know if you're able to do,

639
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:06,640
to listen to it to reach, some of, the quotes

640
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:08,400
et cetera but give me. Some of your takeaways i'm

641
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:11,079
always intrigued as to what the prophets are.

642
00:34:11,159 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 1: Saying.

643
00:34:11,519 --> 00:34:16,760
Speaker 3: About or, saying two the students That Next Generation of

644
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,400
latter day saints that are going to be, in the professional,

645
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:23,960
world leading, the stakes, the wards these uh these these

646
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:25,199
geographies around the.

647
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:27,800
Speaker 1: Country, leading the saints yeah.

648
00:34:27,599 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 6: This Is why they called bayu the flagship, institution of

649
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:34,639
the church because that's what they see in those students

650
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:36,239
as they want them to go out and be, leaders

651
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:39,639
around the world in and in the church. And outside

652
00:34:39,679 --> 00:34:41,800
The CHURCH president of oakes i got to cover that

653
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:46,360
devotional as well and wrote. A story about that he

654
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:49,840
he went, down, AND he said look i understand people

655
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:53,800
have many of. YOU may, have questions i, mean first

656
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,079
of all We've got to say ben there. Were people

657
00:34:56,119 --> 00:34:59,639
LINING up the earliest i. Heard was, four am by

658
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:04,760
thirty there. Was a good. Line by nine thirty It

659
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:08,480
Went from the marriage CENTER Up Past, the byu Broadcasting

660
00:35:08,519 --> 00:35:12,920
building across the harmon The front of the harmon building

661
00:35:13,079 --> 00:35:17,239
over to That Light By, the missionary training center and eighteen.

662
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:21,559
Thousand plus were, in there was packed every. Seat taken, and,

663
00:35:21,679 --> 00:35:25,239
prison oakes said look you need to surround yourself, with

664
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:29,960
people who believe and that will help you find happiness

665
00:35:30,119 --> 00:35:34,039
and help you find the things the guidance. And direction

666
00:35:34,159 --> 00:35:37,119
you need gave four ways To Draw. Closer to jesus

667
00:35:37,199 --> 00:35:40,079
christ but the quote that stood OUT to me that,

668
00:35:40,119 --> 00:35:43,599
i liked the most that, struck me the most was what.

669
00:35:43,679 --> 00:35:46,079
He was talking about one of those ways To draw closer,

670
00:35:46,079 --> 00:35:49,119
to christ was, humility and he said look to, the

671
00:35:49,159 --> 00:35:53,760
needs of. Others and humility follows AND that's a quote

672
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,239
i might just put. Up on my wall. That's a good.

673
00:35:56,079 --> 00:36:01,199
Speaker 3: One always looking for an, inspirational quote on, uh on

674
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:03,599
my phone on my, wall around my house.

675
00:36:03,679 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 1: No Doubt about it tad.

676
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:08,559
Speaker 3: WALTSCH des red news uh discussing a number of topics

677
00:36:08,559 --> 00:36:11,000
today and. Appreciate you hopping on tad always Appreciate. Our

678
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:15,559
conversations as uh let me shift, back to you know

679
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:17,719
one OF the conversations that i was having. WITH my

680
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:22,440
my producer. I have, SEEN more i mean i maybe,

681
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,559
it's it's Recency Bias maybe because i'm i'm paying. Attention

682
00:36:25,639 --> 00:36:29,079
to it more has there been an uptick in general

683
00:36:29,119 --> 00:36:34,840
AUTHORITIES attending b Y u athletic, events from your, PERCH

684
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:36,960
from your, purview i, Feel Like you know elder gong,

685
00:36:37,079 --> 00:36:40,280
Handing Out ice CREAM elder rasban at bau.

686
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:42,360
Speaker 1: Basketball. Than football games.

687
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:45,280
Speaker 3: Uh we, we've seen you, know the these uh these

688
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:49,119
these men that have been called to do very spiritual

689
00:36:49,159 --> 00:36:52,400
things also come down and and, mingle with the, people

690
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:54,840
IF you will and uh get out there and enjoy

691
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:56,480
a night OF Competition.

692
00:36:56,639 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 1: At b yu athletics that.

693
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,800
Speaker 6: IS a great question i, don't KNOW for sure so

694
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,760
i don't want to, make a bold statement but it

695
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:07,519
does seem that way a. Little. BIT to, me now

696
00:37:07,559 --> 00:37:11,119
i know THE president of the uyu usually always has

697
00:37:11,159 --> 00:37:15,960
a general authority and and quite often apostle sitting with

698
00:37:16,079 --> 00:37:19,760
him at a basketball game. Or A football game but i,

699
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,719
do think you Know When you've got elder gung passing

700
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,840
out ice, cream As You Mentioned and elder matthew holland

701
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,760
was sitting courtside earlier this season at a basketball game with.

702
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:33,760
HIS wife and daughter i had some fun Talking with his.

703
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:38,800
Wife page about that they're just, they they're they're. Interested

704
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:42,199
they're they're fans they want by. You to, DO well

705
00:37:43,679 --> 00:37:46,079
and yeah i don't. Think that, you're wrong.

706
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 1: You know many people they they expect a.

707
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 3: Lot from, the Ambassadors you know bron comnhaal used to

708
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,199
call them the flag, bears, At the university right and we,

709
00:37:57,199 --> 00:38:00,760
We had a model we, had a you know things

710
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,440
that we would, we would, actually recite you know where

711
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:05,679
the flag. Bearers of the university, it was a mantra,

712
00:38:06,199 --> 00:38:08,199
Uh if you will and we had to try to

713
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:12,599
live up to that standard and so you, know these student. Athletes,

714
00:38:12,639 --> 00:38:14,599
they fall short uh and then we fall short, time

715
00:38:14,639 --> 00:38:17,000
and time, again and and uh it's just that maybe,

716
00:38:17,039 --> 00:38:18,000
the nature of men.

717
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 1: And maybe it's the nature of the.

718
00:38:19,039 --> 00:38:19,159
Speaker 6: Of.

719
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 3: Us student athletes uh but one of the things that

720
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:26,480
stands out, to me, is like you know these converts

721
00:38:26,519 --> 00:38:29,239
that HAVE, come through B Yu Whether It's tom holmo

722
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:32,760
robbie bosco both called to, serve as mission presidents.

723
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 1: They Were Both Converts ty.

724
00:38:34,119 --> 00:38:37,199
Speaker 3: DETMER heisman trophy winner i played with a number of

725
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:39,280
individuals that ended up, Converting To the faith.

726
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 1: Curtis.

727
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:43,360
Speaker 3: Brown and others uh that that, that the you know

728
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:47,320
THE interactions at b y you made, a very, positive

729
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,679
uh you know just a positive. Impact in their lives

730
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,400
we we, TEND as human beings, i WANT to say

731
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:55,400
and i don't have all the, scientific data behind it

732
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:58,320
but we tend as human beings to to lean into

733
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:01,719
the negative, and, the negative fruits right rather than really

734
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:06,800
focusing on all the positive fruits. Of ANYTHING in life

735
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:10,360
and i wonder if some of that is lost sometimes

736
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:13,840
when the bad things happen and they're pushed.

737
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:17,519
Speaker 1: Forth, into the limelight well WHAT a.

738
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:21,360
Speaker 6: Great POINT i think Also byu and the. Church and

739
00:39:21,519 --> 00:39:24,159
other faiths, people of other faiths and people who do

740
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:27,559
other good works. Run into this too you have the

741
00:39:27,559 --> 00:39:31,440
biblical injunction to do your your. Good works in quiet

742
00:39:32,119 --> 00:39:36,920
and while we do see a lot of information coming

743
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:40,960
out about, the church humanitarian efforts about things that the

744
00:39:41,039 --> 00:39:44,079
way football does to reach, out to the community, to

745
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:49,760
underserve you know, people who, need help to kids we

746
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:52,599
don't see all of. IT by any stretch i mean

747
00:39:52,639 --> 00:39:56,039
there is what we usually see IS some small, percentage

748
00:39:56,079 --> 00:39:59,000
i would say well under ten percent of everything that's

749
00:39:59,039 --> 00:40:02,639
going on to help people and. Do things for others and.

750
00:40:03,159 --> 00:40:05,599
That's just not reported and some of that's because there's

751
00:40:05,639 --> 00:40:08,840
an injunction, not to do so not to do. Your

752
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:13,400
alms before then but but and so you end up

753
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:19,000
in this situation where that that big negative story overwhelms maybe.

754
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,519
SOME of the GOOD i mean we i did the story, About,

755
00:40:22,519 --> 00:40:25,920
ice cream, diplomacy uh you know like You Talked, about

756
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:30,079
WITH elder gong what bo football has done around the

757
00:40:30,079 --> 00:40:34,400
country at games As Well As, at lavelle edward stadium

758
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:39,679
and and you know that. That's just overwhelming good and

759
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:43,679
then when some one or two athletes and a six

760
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:48,079
hundred plus the department of six hundred plus. Athletes does

761
00:40:48,119 --> 00:40:52,239
something bad sometimes we, negate all of it and that's

762
00:40:52,559 --> 00:40:56,000
unfortunate and. It is human, NATURE but you know i

763
00:40:56,159 --> 00:40:57,840
look at IT as someone who i was talking with

764
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:00,239
someone about IT this, morning and, i said, YOU know

765
00:41:00,679 --> 00:41:02,519
he said i, Hate WHEN this, happens, AND i said.

766
00:41:02,519 --> 00:41:05,960
No i understand why it feels like the way he's

767
00:41:06,039 --> 00:41:09,880
just taking off, and everything's going well and and maybe

768
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:13,199
this is exactly the way you hope the trajectory of football.

769
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:16,360
And basketball should go and then guess? What opposition shows

770
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:20,320
up and again we. Talk about scriptural injunctions there is,

771
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:23,400
opposition and all things and and it. Will never be

772
00:41:23,519 --> 00:41:28,119
perfect and to expect any one person or program or

773
00:41:28,119 --> 00:41:33,000
institution to be perfect is unfair and leads to even

774
00:41:33,039 --> 00:41:35,679
a loss of grace for yourself. And your own, IMPERFECTIONS

775
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:38,360
so you know i hope we can all be understanding

776
00:41:38,519 --> 00:41:42,000
and hope that everyone in these issues that we're that

777
00:41:42,039 --> 00:41:47,000
we're reading about today finds ways forward to be to

778
00:41:47,519 --> 00:41:51,480
recover and be healthy and and get the help that

779
00:41:51,519 --> 00:41:55,000
they need and lead. Good non productive.

780
00:41:54,559 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 3: Life one OF the thoughts that i had seeing all these,

781
00:41:58,559 --> 00:42:01,760
general authorities in, look, there's somebody, professor somebody great teachers

782
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:07,559
so many great administrators and coaches and personnel down there

783
00:42:07,559 --> 00:42:09,920
within the athletic tomartment, In the institution itself so there

784
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:15,079
are many ministering individuals that booie up the students and

785
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:19,199
obviously the. Student athletes as, well but you know when

786
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:22,559
you're an ambassador, of a flag bearer as you, ARE

787
00:42:22,639 --> 00:42:27,760
a student athlete i think it's an imperative for those

788
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:32,719
that are in these prominent positions of the faith to

789
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:36,360
go minister to them is often as they have, bandwidth

790
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:38,079
TO do such because i think IT makes a really

791
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:42,920
i think it makes a critical and impactful or a

792
00:42:43,039 --> 00:42:46,440
very poignant impact in the lives of these young men

793
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:47,079
and young ladies.

794
00:42:47,119 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 1: That Interact with them and.

795
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,639
Speaker 3: I've seen, it firsthand you know the more they can

796
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:55,480
minister to the ambassadors, AND the flag bearers i think the.

797
00:42:55,599 --> 00:42:57,039
Speaker 1: Better, for, THE institution.

798
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:04,519
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah i, absolutely and you, know, OUR best story

799
00:43:05,079 --> 00:43:06,719
well i don't, know it's the best but one of

800
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:11,039
the great stories we have of the IMPACT of a

801
00:43:12,119 --> 00:43:15,840
by u player on A young Boy is elder Vis

802
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:19,440
Sikahema's impact on kloni sataki when he was a boy

803
00:43:19,559 --> 00:43:23,400
suffering from the separation of his parents' divorce and, the

804
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:26,599
the you know moving away from his mother and being,

805
00:43:26,639 --> 00:43:31,239
in a Strange, Place. Moving to provo utah And then

806
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:36,239
this heroic national champions football player and comes to A

807
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:40,280
school and vi, sikahema and you know now he is

808
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:42,360
one of those leaders of the, church and an elder

809
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:45,840
a general of forty seventy in the church and does

810
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:49,000
some of that, ministering TO these athletes and, i THINK

811
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:53,039
and coaches and i, think that's really. Yeah it's it's

812
00:43:53,079 --> 00:43:57,519
important it helps because they're in tough spots and people

813
00:43:58,119 --> 00:44:00,440
not only do people, put them on pedestals but they

814
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:04,079
some people try to knock them off and that can be.

815
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:07,519
Destabilizing and difficult too when you're trying your best and,

816
00:44:08,079 --> 00:44:11,360
you on social. Media you're being attacked and those are

817
00:44:11,519 --> 00:44:14,519
those are the ones who, aren't doing bad things but

818
00:44:14,559 --> 00:44:19,519
are still face still, face difficult you. Know interactions AT

819
00:44:19,599 --> 00:44:22,119
times and so i think you.

820
00:44:22,119 --> 00:44:24,880
Speaker 1: Make A, great point tad, WALTZ ladies and gentlemen i.

821
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:27,760
Speaker 3: Always appreciate your time we invite everyone to follow you

822
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:30,719
on x and also read all of your your fantastic

823
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:34,159
interviews And content At the desert. Rednewsdes red dot, Com,

824
00:44:34,159 --> 00:44:36,400
Thanks so much dad thanks for spending some.

825
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 1: Time with, Us.

826
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Speaker 6: Today you bet, Ben was a pleasure.

827
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Speaker 1: Always a, Pleasure.

828
00:44:40,559 --> 00:44:43,519
Speaker 3: Talking with you dad appreciate you stop stopping by and

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