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Speaker 1: Well, hello and welcome. Thanks for getting your pot on,
Thanks for telling a friend, and that's how we spread
the word about the pirate ship. Today is a very
special day because my man Jamis Sam so I used
to call when he was little, Jamis Sam my man
Jamas say, Jamison is fifteen years old. Today you feel old? Huh,
you don't feel old, feel more independent, Like you got
a little more freedom, a little more comfortable in your
own skin. Yeah. Yeah, did you have a good birthday
so far? Last night you had a little gathering of friends.
Today you went to the mall, got new kicks, all right.
Speaker 3: And a new shirt.
Speaker 1: What do you think? I don't understand about your generation?
What do you think? I don't understand music? Like what
what do you mean?
Speaker 3: Stuff like that?
Speaker 1: Yeah? But I think that that's a certain genre. I
don't know that every kid's into it.
Speaker 3: A lot of kids are that underground music. You judge
it sometimes?
Speaker 1: How do I judge it?
Speaker 3: I think It'll be like he's not even saying or anything.
See you can cat, can you even understand what he's saying? Clothes,
what we do and while we act the way we act.
You felt this one when you were younger.
Speaker 1: It's a funny thing because I was thinking, like my
teenage years compared to your teenage years, music was different,
and I always feel like i'm a little bit. The
eighties was an odd time because there wasn't a lot
of great new music. There were some interesting artists. I
thought George Michael, and I think he gets more respect now,
but I thought he was innovative, creative and talented back then.
But you still had the Rolling Stones coming out with
new music, Tom Petty, all these guys who were around
from the seventies sixties more my parents generation, and I
grew up near Woodstock, New York. So a band called
The Grateful Dead was extremely popular there because they were
more like this hippie folk freedom music, and a lot
of kids listen to them. And the Dead still today play.
John Mayer plays with them and they just play at
the sphere and stuff. They're but they're more what would
be called a jam band, I guess, more or less
but they had some great songs that I loved. Sugar
Magnolia will always be one of my favorites, and it
just reminds me of grown up in pine Planes. But
you know, it is different because the music is different. Dating.
I didn't really date in high school, though I had
a crush on this one girl who I think you've
met actually when we were down in pine Planes once
or twice. And then I had like, you have the phone,
You're in constant contact with all your buddies. You know
what's going on all the time. We didn't. I had
a cool light up phone, like you could see the
inside of the guts of the actual phone and would
light up in my room, so I wouldn't have it ring.
I would just have it light up, so it's like
the batphone. But my parents would always answer and be
on the other end. So I think you've got more
ability to do things nowadays, to see things and do that.
What about like social life, is it harder? I think
it's almost harder for you with a social life a
little bit. Yeah, Why why do you say that?
Speaker 3: Because people are really judging.
Speaker 1: What do you mean by judge?
Speaker 3: Like they a lot of people judge a book bydes cover,
Like anybody.
Speaker 1: Why are you gonna answer? I don't know who is it?
Speaker 3: I don't know, but it's like a.
Speaker 1: I guess that was a good reason they interrupted. It
was uncle Kevin and your cousin mal right. Now, yeah,
we're live for that whole call on on YouTube and Facebook.
So why do you say people are judging when I
say social life has changed?
Speaker 3: Like people when I say, don't judge a book bytes cover,
they they do judge a book brides to cover. Nobody
never judges the book by everybody judges the book bytes cover.
If you see someone in a scheme mask and all
black walking into a jewelry store, you're gonna think they're
gonna rob the place. You're judgment by the cover. You
don't know what they're to do.
Speaker 1: Well, I've always said that it's animal instinct right to judge,
Like people go, don't judge, don't judge, Well, it's sort
of what preserves us if nothing else. I just I
better to be safe than sorry. But when your social
life has changed, like I always figure, like, there's harder,
it's harder to do things. You're at that tough age
because you can't go to bars and hang out their
clubs because you're not eighteen or twenty one and you can't.
So what do you do? Go to the mall? Yeah,
it went to them all today and that's something we
did in the eighties. It's so funny that almost forty
something years later.
Speaker 3: Is probably like the most packed mo in Rochester.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Greece is dead. I don't know, did you have?
What have fun? Like? I'm curious in terms of social life,
what do kids do? Because everybody can watch you now
and you guys tell on yourselves by videos taping your
stupid antics.
Speaker 3: I don't know what to say.
Speaker 1: You don't know what to say, Like, what are you
asking me? Well, I'm asking like what like social life?
I mean it's changed. How hard is it to just
get out and be sort of free? It's not hard, No, no,
because you but you guys always telling yourselves. Like we
even saw the fights at the at the arena last night.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but they weren't recording that someone else was right.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, is like somehow you Yeah, that's true.
But what's something I say or do that immediately tells
you I'm old? What's something I say or do that
immediately tells you I'm old back in my day. I
don't say back in my day when I was.
Speaker 3: Younger, when I was younger, when I was your age.
Oh you kids?
Speaker 1: Do I say?
Speaker 3: Oh you you kids? In your blank like that?
Speaker 1: Do I do that?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Let me see how well you actually know me, because
we've been back together now for about seven months. If
I had to be stranding on a desert island with
one celebrity, who do you think I'd pick? Because this
is this would be a tough one because I don't
really talk about celebrities that much, not that infatuated with anybody.
Who do you think.
Speaker 3: Jimmy Buffett if he.
Speaker 1: Was if he were still live. Actually that's a bad
one because Buffett, I think even knows how to do
some stuff like it needs somebody who could help build. Yes,
he had a quick he did. What about What about you?
Who would you be? Celebrity wise? Do you think I
think that I'm gonna get the guy's name wrong? But
it's uh, I don't know what he is. I don't
know if he's a comic and actor or what. But
he was just on the tonight show Kaysenett. Is that
his name? What does Kay Senett do a stream. This
guy just plays video games.
Speaker 3: He lives streams. He does just chatting. It's a category.
But he'll also game. He'll also do I r L streams.
Will also collab with people, also make videos, do interviews.
Speaker 1: He's a celebrity just from playing video games. It started
with video.
Speaker 3: Started with comedy skits. Okay, in New York City, you're
saving the Bronx.
Speaker 1: Kisonett, you would like, Well, I'm not.
Speaker 3: His biggest fan, though, I wouldn't want to be chopped
on that island.
Speaker 1: Who would you want to be trapped on the island
with Siza? She's bad?
Speaker 3: Okay, No, I'm just kidding.
Speaker 1: You don't know, all right?
Speaker 3: I think I don't.
Speaker 1: Well, it's I don't know, all right? What you who
is yours? I don't I'm not sure I was saying
if it was a woman, there was always Diane Lane.
I always thought she was pretty hot. You have no
idea who she is? What year was I born? Do
you know?
Speaker 3: Nineteen seventy one?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Do you know what? My favorite kind of music is.
Speaker 3: The yacht rock?
Speaker 1: But that's a great call. Actually, I'll take that. I
was gonna say singer songwriter, but yacht rock.
Speaker 3: Singer songwriter is just a genre of artists. Yeah yeah,
so yacht rock. Yacht rock is a genre. That's a second.
Speaker 1: Do you get is my music bad to listen to? You? Actually?
You respect my musical taste. It's tolerable.
Speaker 3: My music taste is better and more wide variety.
Speaker 1: Why do you think that?
Speaker 3: Because it is? I can prove it.
Speaker 1: How I don't. Don't. Don't prove it. Don't don't prove it.
What is something that you find funny or ridiculous about me?
Something that's funny, like.
Speaker 3: I'll explain to you the plans in detail.
Speaker 1: No you don't.
Speaker 3: You make it difficult I do.
Speaker 1: No, you don't.
Speaker 3: I told you we were going to the mall.
Speaker 1: No, I told you what we were going to do.
Speaker 3: I told you exactly what we were going to do.
That was the plan. That's exactly what happened too. I
got a ride to the mall. That's it. We just hunt,
We just hung out. That's exactly what was going to happen.
It wasn't anything strategic. Well, you say, going to the mall,
what do you think you're going to do? What?
Speaker 1: You don't? But you don't present it that way. How
do you.
Speaker 3: How did I present it?
Speaker 1: You present it as.
Speaker 3: I told you the day before and the day of
what the plans were. And I told you that we're
going to wait on them. We're gonna wait till they go.
Actually I'm gonna go first. I'm just like, actually, we're
doing this.
Speaker 1: You're just on the.
Speaker 3: Phone all day calling somebody, calling multiple people. You're just
always on the phone.
Speaker 1: I am.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're always on the phone with somebody. You are, Yeah,
not on the phone with somebody. I'm always on the phone,
just in general. What else am I supposed to do?
Speaker 1: I don't know, read a book?
Speaker 3: What book?
Speaker 1: Any book?
Speaker 3: You don't have books?
Speaker 1: I have tons of books in your room.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'm not going in there.
Speaker 1: You're in there all the time.
Speaker 3: Even let me finish. That's another thing I found ridiculous
that you do what you hear a few a few words,
and you need to cut me off and then immediately
go what what.
Speaker 1: Jesus Christ, what what do I do? Just now?
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you don't even let me finish. I don't
go in your room to look for books. I go
in your to lay down because their beds comfy and
make music.
Speaker 1: Yeah. But what I'm saying, is what else could you do?
You could, yeah, do your homework, do that kind of stuff.
Huh why because I don't want to just should see
that's the thing, and you do do it, You do
do it, you absolutely do. So you find it ridiculous
that I have to repeat the plans back because your
plans are never.
Speaker 3: Feel like you overreact like this was so, this was
so unplanned, This was just so ridiculous.
Speaker 1: It was out of this world, how horrible it was.
Speaker 3: And then you'll come and you'll be like, how was it?
Speaker 1: Oh was it fun?
Speaker 3: Oh I'm so happy. Okay, Like, dude, Jesus, wait a second,
you make them the plans difficult, not gonna lie.
Speaker 1: I don't because you don't have plans. They're fluid. This
one's gonna go here. We're waiting on this, we're waiting
on that. So there's nothing he's ever concrete. There's never
beginning in an end.
Speaker 3: Okay, So what's the plan? What was the plan in
your eyes?
Speaker 1: Well, first, it was a different place this morning, it
was a different place you well, and I also thought
it would be easier for your friends.
Speaker 3: Then that changed, so because of one of the parents again,
all right, again.
Speaker 1: So but it gets changed and so there and did
I make it? Did I accommodate it? Like?
Speaker 3: What do you mean?
Speaker 1: Did I make it happen?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah? So what do you what are you bitching about?
Speaker 3: You gotta I'm answering your questions?
Speaker 1: No answer. You're saying like, I don't exactly what you do?
Speaker 3: You do, you're doing it right now.
Speaker 1: Just you just didn't know. I don't guess you did.
I don't. I disagree.
Speaker 3: Okay, of course they're going to disagree.
Speaker 1: Well because I think sometimes there's no plans or your
plans are very vague.
Speaker 3: Not because thought aren't thinking. You just immediately, like I said,
you hear one thing, and your immediate like, oh are
they going to do this or are they gonna do that?
Are they gonna do this? Or are they gonna do that?
What are they gonna do or who's going to be there?
Who's gonna do This's gonna do that? And you get
yourself stressed. I told you what plan was. You changed them,
another parent changed them. The goal was just to go
to the mall and hang out.
Speaker 1: That was it.
Speaker 3: Okay, huge, ive me to the mall.
Speaker 1: They get a ride.
Speaker 3: Okay, I told you before anything happened for the plans
are even official, that we're gonna wait until they go there,
all right? Then Alice asked if I could come there.
You said that's okay. Then you then you just start
overreacting because you're not ready and you weren't in a
shower for like two hours.
Speaker 1: I was. I was working on stuff.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, I was actually on the phone like for
two times with people you didn't have to be on
the phone with.
Speaker 1: Okay, well your grandma.
Speaker 3: No, let's you're not slick.
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be slick. Okay, I'm not trying
to be slick. Okay, let me go back for a second.
Let me go back for a second. How about even
like your the birthday party plans, they were vague, So
I said, you made the party, no, not originally. Originally
you wanted it somewhere else, and that seemed unfair burdens.
Speaker 3: Have official plans. I was just an.
Speaker 1: Idea, right, But you said, no, you don't understand how
you present things, and this is good that we're having this.
Speaker 3: I understand how how I present things. You don't understand
how I.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's fine, because you'll say this, you'll go yeah,
we're gonna hang out over here. His mom says it's okay,
and they're gonna.
Speaker 3: Have it, and you say, no, absolutely not that. So
it's your fault that the plans don't go through.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but they're not. They're vague, like when I don't
know what time, I don't know who's going, I don't know.
Those were all the answers I get those, aren't I told.
Speaker 3: You that they were going to be Saturday, and you
would You could just think of a time and it'll
be around there. We're not going to do it at twelve.
We're not going to do it at one in the morning.
We're not going to do it at eleven in the morning.
We're going to do it around sometime in the afternoon.
It'll end at night. That's easy. You could have thought
of what time it would have been. We're not stupid.
Speaker 1: Well, I didn't want to on you, but I didn't want.
Speaker 3: To change yes, because right because of a parent again, yes, okay,
because you shouldn't be doing that somewhere else. Okay, So
then you brought us to more Connery's. Yeah, then someone
was running late. Then we were just trawling about people coming.
Then someone brought a random ass person and then everything
just fell into place and was perfectly fine. Yeah, that
plan was good. Yeah, and you it's not like the
plans don't go through and they're ruined. You just overreact.
I just answered your question. You're turning into such a
big thing. I told you what you did. You just
wanted to have this conversation.
Speaker 1: No, that was the whole goal. Yeah, No, it wasn't.
Speaker 3: Then what was the goal?
Speaker 1: I was just asking you a questions. I answered it.
I asked you a question about what you find ridiculous
about me and you. So you started that conversation, young fella.
Speaker 3: You started it by asking me the question. All it
was answering, right.
Speaker 1: But you said, it's ridiculous that you think I overreact
to plans.
Speaker 3: Okay, my answer because you said, what do you think
that I do that's ridiculous. I answered it and said
that you overreact to plans. It could have just been
that you could be like, okay, you know what you have?
Speaker 1: No, you know what, because I'm going to tell you
that I feel like your plans are not I thought
through really, and they're not concrete. When and you're a
young guy, and I don't want you getting in when, oh.
Speaker 3: Bit, I asked, because there was a damn questions. That's
always you're always doing something ridiculous always.
Speaker 1: Okay, yes, I'm defending myself. Okay, as your father, crack down, right,
I'm going to tighten this up now. Okay, type it up,
tighten it up even more. Uh, here's something for you.
I'm going to give you some absurd but interesting scenarios. Yeah,
thanks for being so interested. You wake up tomorrow and
you're thirty six years old, what's going to happen? What's
the first thing you do?
Speaker 3: I'm fifteen.
Speaker 1: It's a scenario. You wake up tomorrow, you're thirty six,
what's the first thing you do?
Speaker 3: Clock in the work and feed my kids?
Speaker 1: Okay you think you have kids at thirty six? Yeah?
Probably all right. If you could be the best in
the world at one thing instantly, why.
Speaker 3: Because you want to be him? Everybody in basketball wants
to be the best. Why wouldn't you.
Speaker 1: So you'd want to be the best in basketball.
Speaker 3: I want to be the best at basketball. I want
to be the best.
Speaker 1: But if one thing I do one.
Speaker 3: Thing my hobbies.
Speaker 1: Okay, but one thing instantly, basketball, okay or boxing? I
think basketball would be better make more money with basketball. No,
what do you mean? No?
Speaker 3: Not nowadays? Yeah, people have been making like thirty million
dollars a fight.
Speaker 1: Yeah, on on, okay, and that could be the end
of the fight. Guys are making one hundred and fifteen
million dollars over four or five you were making thirty
million a season or more.
Speaker 3: Okay, so I'm making more money. I'll probably making sixty
million dollars before they make sixty million dollars. If I
do two three fights, they both.
Speaker 1: You know, what's the all right? You have to switch
lives with me? Okay for one week. What's the first
thing you'd change.
Speaker 3: My wardrobe?
Speaker 1: What's wrong with my kid?
Speaker 3: A ten thousand dollars? Something?
Speaker 1: What you wouldn't give you a kid ten thousand dollars?
Speaker 3: If I were you, I'd give me ten thousand dollars
and then I'd wake up next week and I'd monitor
you and make sure you don't spend it.
Speaker 1: Listen to me, what what about my wardrobe? Don't you
like you?
Speaker 3: You just put on you just you're a dad. It'd
be cool if you were like fly, but you're not.
Speaker 1: You don't want to be.
Speaker 3: You don't care.
Speaker 1: I do care. I do, so, well, what am I
supposed to wear that would be fly? In your opinion? Well,
that looks I'm gonna look like a cartoon character. You won't.
You're fifteen. You look cool.
Speaker 3: People will point you out and be like, oh wow,
he's cool.
Speaker 1: Is that what they would do? What would they do?
Look at that pathetic guy trying to hang on like
he's fifteen.
Speaker 3: And then you could be like, look at yourself, old man?
Speaker 1: Is there anything else you want? You would like to
say and rip on me about on this what?
Speaker 3: I mightn't even call you an old man. I said,
that's what i'd say if I were you. What's your problem?
Speaker 1: Dude? What's my problem?
Speaker 3: You just ripped up my Yeah you I answered your
question again, Yes.
Speaker 1: I know, okay, but the question was what's the problem?
Speaker 3: And I answered the question, yeah, because you put on bullshit.
You just step out and and like you not whatever,
but like you just I don't know, you don't come
trim like me?
Speaker 1: What's come trim? Like you? Trim? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Like cool, like fly, like fire like I don't know.
Trim sometimes can be tripping, stupid tripping, As the youth
would say.
Speaker 1: All right, yeah, what are you most excited about being fifteen.
Speaker 3: I want to work, bro?
Speaker 1: You want to work? Yeah? Bro?
Speaker 3: Why so I can get that money? Why does anybody work?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 3: Would you work your job if it wasn't paying you
any money at all? You have to have a source
of income.
Speaker 1: You do have to have a source of income. I
understand that for you. You're you're You're okay at the moment.
But I need money.
Speaker 3: I need to be having I need to come out
every single day with new clothes, you know, singing what Yeah, dude,
I need to come out every day fly.
Speaker 1: How you think you've been doing so far?
Speaker 3: Pretty good?
Speaker 1: Decent, decent, decent. I know I could be better, Okay.
Speaker 3: If I just start putting all my money into clothes.
Speaker 1: All right, Happy birthday?
Speaker 3: Thank you?
Speaker 1: That was it? Yeah? You and I I'm gonna had
Danny's gonna pop on and we're gonna talk about von Miller, okay,
and the Buffalo bills. But is there anything else you'd
like to add? Anything that you've enjoyed. You've been here
now seven months that we've been living together again. Has
it been good?
Speaker 3: Bad?
Speaker 1: It's been good? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Just so the only when I'm going to the studio,
like you promised.
Speaker 1: Me what studio? Which studio?
Speaker 3: Studio studio?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, Well we have to book that at
some point so you can do your wrap.
Speaker 3: Like once a month.
Speaker 1: I'm not doing once a month? Why not, because come
on and done?
Speaker 3: What insane?
Speaker 1: You know? Do you think this is going to make
me want to buy these things for you? You seem
very grumpy today, Yeah, a little bit. Why I don't
want to stay at them all a little longer? Yeah,
and you're tired.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to go home.
Speaker 1: Book I'm sure you do, because what you were up
really late last night?
Speaker 3: No, I woke up really early last.
Speaker 1: Night, Okay, and I had to tell you to quiet down.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you've been a little bit of a I'm sorry,
Nune Cheer. We will take a moment when we come back.
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eight and a half million, but there's a pretty hefty
price with that. It's fifteen point four million in a
dead cap hit, meaning that it's money that is spent
but you're not getting anything for it. Despite the release,
there's a reported mutual interest in a potential reunion between
Miller and the Bills, which sounds odd to me. I mean,
that's that's like breaking up with your ex to focus
on yourself, but still texting them after a few drinks
is the way I see that. But I don't know
with Moron all of this we bring in the billified sports,
I'm gonna say expert, That's what I'm gonna call him,
Dan Barrillo for a little bit more than that. He
is live from Boo Headquarters in Henrietta's going on Billy
Boo Headquarters in Henrietta. I kind of like that, course,
I thought that was funny. So what do we think
of this? I mean, here comes von Miller. He came
in with a six year, one hundred and twenty million
dollar contract. In twenty twenty two, he had injuries, declining production.
I think that there was the suspension then in twenty
twenty four due to personal conduct policy, which seemed to
just get kind of skated over. No one really talked
too much about it. He's thirty six years old. He
has one hundred and twenty nine and a half career sacks.
He needs twelve more to be in the top ten
with the most sacks in the NFL. I'm not sure
it was a chance to try to get a what
I would say is a championship. Right, you're bringing him in.
He was kind of the quote unquote missing piece for
the Super Bowl. But it was was it a high
price gamble that you think was worth it? Dan Brilla? Well?
Speaker 4: Do I think it was worth it?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 4: The alternative was what?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 4: There was no alternative. They'd gotten him, I believe in
April of twenty twenty two, and when he came on
the scene. The first game, of course, was that Thursday
night opener against the Rams on Sunday Night Football, and
a lot of people looked at that game and said,
this could be a preview of the next Super Bowl,
even though the Rams are pretty much gutted their franchise
at this point. And Von just like picked right up
where he left off in LA and he just he
was fantastic, And until the Thanksgiving game against Detroit, he
really was pretty good. They're like, okay, guys, thirty three
years old, how is he still doing this? What is
going on? He was thirty two? How is he still
able to do it? But I said when they signed him,
I said, be careful. He is thirty two and he's
going to need to be on a limited snap count
and he could get hurt and low and behold that
Thanksgiving because you know every year a Bill's player gets
hurt if they play on Thanksgiving. Trey White had gotten
hurt the previous year. Same thing happens with Von Miller,
and he was never the same player after that. That said,
you know, like there was this huge contract, but the
guaranteed money, the fifty three million dollars, that's all they
really paid him was the guaranteed So basically the contract
is just a seven year working agreement. To spread out
that money, they're gonna save eight million dollars in the cap.
They could bring him back. And the reason why they
could bring him back is because if they sign him
for like a veteran minimum or something like that, he
for the number of plays he only played, like twenty
plays a game in thirteen games. That's not a lot, right,
But he had just as many sacks as their second
best sacker, aj F Panessa, Right, I mean, that's insane.
Panessa's only twenty six five. Miller was thirty five this year,
and he had just as many sacks as at Panessa
for a guy who was never on the field except
in third down situations, and he had two fewer sacks
than Greg Russo, who just signed a nice little extension yesterday.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he did sign a nice little extension. That's like
an eighty million dollar extension. I thought, right right.
Speaker 4: For a guy who where was he dura of the playoffs?
You know, anybody see anybody see him? Well, Greg Russo
had two sacks during the playoffs and I'm sorry, two
pressures during the playoffs and two sacks. You know who
else had two pressures but no sacks? Von Miller and
von Miller played a fraction of the plays that this
dude had. So I think they're looking at it and going, Okay,
you're a good guy in the locker room. We're only
gonna use you in certain situations. If you want to
come back for the league minimum, we'll do that. I
think he wants to. I think he also has aspirations
to be a general manager. What so with with with
with Brandon Bean. I think that kind of relationship that
they have, they might they might do that.
Speaker 1: What's the uh? Yeah, because it said both sides were
open to that. What is uh? What is the veteran minimum?
Do you know?
Speaker 4: I think it's like six hundred thousand or something like
that they got to be for his for his age.
I think a veteran minimum is about like like like
around six. But I could be wrong, Mike.
Speaker 1: I would think that maybe they bring him back for
a million, right, Yeah, I don't think they're gonna in
selt the game in half. I don't know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean for one year, I mean guarantee it
for just for this once us he doesn't make the
team at this point, it's eight eight hundred eighty five
thousand to just over a million, okay, sometimes one point too.
Speaker 1: So so if he, uh, at this point in his career,
does he prioritize legacy over winning you think? And legacy
being getting into that top ten in sacks?
Speaker 4: It depends on how the conversation went with Brandon Bean
before they decided to do this. If there was a conversation,
because if mutual, if both sides are interested him coming back,
and he's still able to get like two or three
sacks in thirteen games, and I mean his legacy. I
don't think his legacy could get any better anywhere but Buffalo, really,
I mean where he'd be, Like I Philadelphia doesn't need
him right Where Where else is he? Where else is
he gonna go, and I think Buffalo could be the
place to do that. He loves Buffalo, they love him,
and Buffalo is the closest team that's gonna want to
take a chance on him or for as close as
they are to winning a Super Bowl, the Bills are
very close, still very close. I don't think there's any
other place that he would rather be if they want,
if they want him back, unless somebody wants to throw
five million dollars at it, which I think would be
ridiculous at his age for playing like twenty percent of
the snaps of the season.
Speaker 1: Go back, Let's go back to the suspension because barely
made waves in the football world. I feel like and
should off field issues impact the player's legacy more than
they do.
Speaker 4: You think depends on the player. Yeah, well, we would
say that, we would want that. We want to believe that.
Like somebody asked about Aaron Rodgers, what's Aaron Rodgers going
to legacy going to be?
Speaker 1: I go, I don't know.
Speaker 4: His career is not over yet. Right now. He is
known for, you know, our fighting his way out of
Green Bay, only winning one Super Bowl, losing multiple conference
championship games, going to the Jets, and getting injured and
then crashing his season, getting his head coach and general
manager fired, even though he really wasn't directly responsible for that,
going on these darkness retreats and I taking ayahuasca. But
if he retired right now, in five years, he's going
to be remembered for being one of the five greatest quarterbacks,
or maybe one of the three greatest quarterbacks in his generation.
He'll be a first ballot Hall of Famer and we'll
forget all that, like if it weren't for like, let's
look at his predecessor in Green Bay. We're talking about
Aaron Rodgers. Look at his predecessor in Green Bay, Brett Farr.
Brett Farve had a very similar career. Right went to one,
went to two Super Bowls, one to one lost the
other had multiple Pro Bowls, and it was always in
the conversation for MVP. People may argue that have been
the greatest quarterback ever, lost multiple championship games, ends his
career with a with a rival. Five years later, he's
a first ballot Hall of Famer and he goes to
the Hall of Fame and he's walking back to Green
Bay with open arms. So time kind of heals that stuff.
As long as you have a ring. As long as
you have a ring on your hand, I don't think
it matters. And with Von Miller's case, I think people
have forgotten about the suspensions. I think they've forgotten about
the domestic violence stuff. Although I don't think there was
any confirmation either way on what happened. That's still kind
of muddied.
Speaker 1: But the end of the day, I.
Speaker 4: Don't think people are going to remember for him for
that cause he's an affable guy. He's a likable guy.
Like Roger Clemons and Andy Pettitt both got caught in
the Mitchell Report for using steroids. Yankee fans love Andy
Pettitt and they're kind of lukewarm about Roger Clemens. Now
why because Andy pettittt was lovable and Roger Clemens was
kind of defiant. So what do we look at von Miller.
Von Miller seems like a likable guy. He's never been
a jackass. He's always been kind of cool to the media.
So I think people if the Bills were a Super Bowl,
he'll be remembered. Well, if they don't, Hey, he's a
nice player here. You know, he didn't exactly service purpose
the way they wanted him to because of injuries. But
that's not on von Miller. That's not Brandon being and
Sean McDermott taking the chance on the guy.
Speaker 1: Well, that would be my next question for you. Would
you rather your team overpay for a fading star in
hopes of one championship or take that long, patient route
and risk never winning at all, which is I don't know.
I think I go for the big splash, bring in
the guy. He wants to prove he's got one more thing,
and I do believe that there is something. And then
you hear about it all the time, the winning attitude,
the winning mentality. That's a team that doesn't know how
to win. We've said things like that. Von Miller is
clearly a guy who does know how to win. So
I'm almost okay with the team taking that chance. It
seems like a risk worth taking.
Speaker 4: Looking back, you can't really kill them for it. I
did at first, guess Lea and I don't know if
you remember. I don't know if we were doing the
podcast when they signed him, but I said, I don't know.
He's thirty three years old, thirty two years old. I
don't know if it's a good idea and end up
not really working out. But looking back and looking at
their drafts, to be honest with you, I can't blame them.
At least they knew what they didn't know, which was
how to draft defensive players, right right. I mean, let's
be fair here. Russo is a nice player, Epiness is
a nice player, but in the playoffs, they're nowhere to
be found in the biggest games, and von Miller proved
that he would be a guy who could Joe up.
Now the injuries set aside, at the end of the day,
who else were they getting to replace him? They clearly
didn't draft anybody who could step in for him, So
I don't have a problem with that. And to be
quite honest, in the years since, they really haven't drafted
that tremendous Edd Rusher. All these Bills fans and media
are talking about and they can't talk about it anymore.
Speaker 1: Thank god.
Speaker 4: Hey, the Bills ought to go out and get Miles Garrett,
Well they can't do that anymore. It's always about the money,
and he signed a huge extension forty million dollars a
year to go like not win a Super Bowl in Cleveland,
and then Max Crosby just signed an extension with the Raiders,
so at least they know, hey, we're not great at
drafting guys. We need to go sign guys. And if
they want to go out and try to get a
veteran like a like a Khalil Mack who's on the
wrong side of thirty, or somebody like maybe a Trey Hendrickson,
if it's at all possible, by all means, go ahead
and do it. Because you're not you clearly can't draft
these guys.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's unfortunate, but yes, I understand what you're saying.
All right, Well, I have a feeling then that von
Miller we haven't seen the last to him in a
Buffalo uniform, and that he'll probably have a role much
like he did this season next I.
Speaker 4: Except it'd be like a one or two year deal
at my most. Okay, get him over someth get because
there's only sixteen players that think I had over one
hundred and thirty sacks in their career, he would be
one of them. I think he's at one twenty nine
and a half or something like that, right, So, I
mean it'd be like to see him do that in
Buffalo and I mean people forget you want to talk
about how long Von Miller's played in the NFL and
how long the bill, how long ago the Bills were
wasn't that long ago the Bills were bad? He was
drafted one spot ahead of the immortal Marcel.
Speaker 1: Darius Oh gosh.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's how that's how. That's how long ago. Okay,
and so and if you want to talk about Khalil Mack,
if the Bills do out, go out and get him.
He was drafted right after a guy by the name
of Sammy Watkins, and drafted long before a guy Nabo
Dell Beckham Junior. And the only guys who are still
in the league are the kid from Tampa Bay whose
name escapes me, the receiver there. He was in that
draft too.
Speaker 1: Stud Yeah Evans, Mike Evans, Mike Evans. Right.
Speaker 4: So, I mean, like the NFL, it turns around quickly.
So you got to give Miller like credit for his longevity,
the fact that he was able to like do what
he could on those third downs when he was playing
in buffaloespite the fact that he was on the field
very long.
Speaker 1: All right, Danny, good weekend overall?
Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, pretty good, pretty good, well rested, right, ready
to go, well rested? Especially since did you did you
get any accidents? You have a heart attack at all today?
Because this week beyond the lookout, I did no accidents
and had accidents, and the heart attacks go up this
week because of the spring ahead.
Speaker 1: I set all the clocks ahead before I went to bed,
So I went to bed at what would have been
normally ten thirty eleven thirty, and I stayed in bed
till probably about eight o'clock eight thirty, eight thirty the
new time. So I think, I make sure you get
your rest. Yeah, I gotta get my rest. And it's
been an adventurous week, an adventurous week. I'll have to
give you a call at some point.
Speaker 4: Okay, Well got another one cover because Saint Patrick's days
around of the course.
Speaker 1: Is But I I don't see myself doing a whole lot.
I don't. I just don't. I'm not sure you say that.
Speaker 4: By the way, I ran into Uh. I ran to
our boy Kevin on Friday night.
Speaker 1: He sent me a picture of you guys sitting at
the table, and I said, are you just gonna stalk
them or go say hi? He said, I didn't even
see it.
Speaker 4: I didn't see him walk in because when I walked in,
the table he was sitting at was empty. We were
a path ub or betbs.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, very nice on Friday night.
Speaker 4: So I'm like, like, where did you get it? Because
you're hard to bits.
Speaker 1: So I love you guys have for each other is amazing,
absolutely amazing.
Speaker 4: He's a good day. He was with his hockey buddies
sockey dead.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, well his weekend got kind of up ended.
Uh yeah, to go. They were supposed to go play
the kids up in Boston and then I guess a
couple of parents pulled the plug and so he had
already taken time off from work, so that was a problem.
Excuse me, I just got hit with theawn. Must be
the fact that it's ah yeah day like saving time.
Speaker 4: This is my favorite time zone. I wish we just
stay at this time zone all year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, I know what you mean. Most people agree
with you, but I don't.
Speaker 4: Know till you do that extra hour of sleep in October.
But what are you gonna do?
Speaker 1: That's right, well, you get to hybrid. Yah Dan. We'll
see you in person in studio later this week. Thank
you for the chat about the Buffalo bills and what
the von Miller situation is or is not, and it
sounds like it's kind of a restructuring money deal. Yeah.
Speaker 4: By the way, at least we know Miles Garrett is
not coming to Buffalo much like that was said this show.
Realistically first, Okay, I just want to to know that
I love when Danny does this.
Speaker 1: I love when you get on there because he gets
and I.
Speaker 4: Would have loved Miles Garrett to come to Buffalo. But
could we just be realistic?
Speaker 1: We could be realistic, all right, Dann Barillo, good, good
insights on Von Miller. I appreciate your time from BOO Headquarters.
Speaker 4: You got a happy birthday, Jamison.
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you. All right, there we go, There it goes,
Danny Barrillo. Uh, we will close it out, closing it
out for Jamis to turn fifteen today. Any other thing
you want to say, Jamison, anything you want to say, huh,
stay in school, Stay in school. That's smart. That good? Okay.
I'm Bill Moran. We'll see you tomorrow.
Speaker 3: A letter to you stopping by to dad Enna State.
Speaker 1: See if they were looking borrow candle like with Tennessee.
Please on your bed