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Speaker 1: All right, welcome in. It is time for full court presidence.

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Monday Feast week is in the books. No one is

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happier about that than me. I did not have a

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very good feast week. I did win yesterday. Good feast

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week in football, Brian Power. Not a good feast week

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in basketball. We got to turn it around. But I

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dig it a basketball winner yesterday, Brian. I know, well,

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first of all, you were ranting off camera we should

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tell the folks that Chicago State South Carolina State is canceled.

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Speaker 2: And you're not very happy about that, are you?

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Speaker 3: No, I'm not.

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Speaker 4: I had to play on the over and it was

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gonna win, Trig and Rob, I'm telling you right now,

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that was a good look and play. It was two

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terrible defensive teams. I opened the rite up by noting

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two to eight teams playing in a noon Eastern time

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slot on a Monday. What's not to love here? Why

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would we not bet this game? I thought no defense

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was going to be played. People were betting the over

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like they knew the score. I had a good number

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at one fifty one and a half. And right before

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we go live here on wager Talk TV, please Liken subscribe,

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Please remember to do. So we appreciate that. Trigg says,

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guess what, South Carolina State didn't make the trip forget

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about not getting off the bus, they never got on

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the plane.

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Speaker 5: Game's not taking place, guys.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think that's the problem. I don't think they

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travel by plane. I feel like that's probably about even

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even all the way UF to Chicago State. I don't

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know that they have the budget to fly there to

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be being perfectly good.

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Speaker 4: Points that might have been the plot, that might have

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been the problem. So yeah, no, no, no early tip.

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And that was so guys, if you bought that play

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for me, it was just a small little two percent

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play to try to get the week. Oh and customer servier,

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so refund j I'm sure they're very nice people.

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Speaker 5: Tell them BP sent you what?

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Speaker 3: Rob?

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Speaker 5: I think you're muted?

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Speaker 1: Rob, Rob, you're muted. But let's get you in here.

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How is your how is your Thanksgiving? How is your feast?

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Speaker 2: Week? All?

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Speaker 3: Right, well, let's say this, the time spent with family

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was wonderful until last night's and and maybe you know,

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you guys have been into business long enough. Sometimes one

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game changes the whole flow for everything. It hadn't been

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good for about three days, and then last night I

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have a five percent Denver team total over twenty four

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and a half and guess what, Oh lucky enough to

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go to overtime. I get lucky enough to score the touchdown,

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and overtime the five percent comes home. And those are

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the type of things that change the flow of betting accounts.

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So I'm gonna I'm gonna roll with that, guys, I'm

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gonna roll with the fact that this is gonna be

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a really, really good week.

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Speaker 4: Go ahead, Brian, I was gonna say, this is a

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college basketball show. We will get to college basketball. I

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promised we have a full hour to discuss somewhat smaller

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college roots cards. So we're gonna get a lot in guys, Temple, Villanova,

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we have a battle of unbeatens between cal Baptist and Colorado.

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But Trigg, needless to say, I think it's a good

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thing we weren't watching the game last night with Rob

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because I had the command I had the commanders, Trigg,

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I know you had the commandion. When they forced over

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on that last drive, I was like, dan Quinn, just

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don't force overtime, because I knew I would have looked

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at you, Rob when that game went to overtime and said,

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your team total over has absolutely cash. There was no doubt.

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I have never been more I'm forty five years old.

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I don't think I've been more sure of anything in

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my life than the fact that Denver was going to

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score touchdown on that opening possession and overtime, and boy

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did they make a sweat on the comeback. I tweeted,

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It's very rare I get emotional on x dot com, guys,

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but I did tweet in the wee hours last night

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for the love of Christ, please go for to dan Quinn.

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Speaker 2: He did.

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Speaker 4: I didn't care that he missed it. Quite frankly, started

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all your commanders fans, but we all win on Sunday night.

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And I had a five percent winner too yesterday and

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football with the over in Rams Panthers, I was very

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easy with quite frankly.

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Speaker 3: Hey, Adam, real quick, Mike. When I was muted, I

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was asking you, if you're South Carolina state, how do

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you even schedule that trip? If in fact the reason

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is we don't have the budget to fly, how do

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you even schedule that game? Did you think you were

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going to drive cars there? And what was the deal?

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Speaker 1: I don't know what the the logistics are of that.

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I feel like you can do that trip by bus.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they do have to leave campus to play

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by games. I just know that they don't have like

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And that was my guess. So, Tom Fray, have your

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college basketball been profitable this season? I can't speak for

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the other two. Mine is not to this point, and

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Speaker 2: I had had a one.

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Speaker 1: Of the worst weeks that I can personally remember betting

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this sport. From about Tuesday to Saturday. Monday I went

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five and one. Yesterday I went four and one, but

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most of it was football. Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday

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was as bad as it gets for me. I was

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on the wrong end of every overtime. I was on

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the wrong end of every late game situation. So no,

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to answer your question, no, it hasn't been profitable to

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this point. It's super frustrating. But it's also December first.

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We got a lot of season left, so I'm ready

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to cast a few tickets.

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Speaker 4: Go ahead, Brian, Yeah, happy to December, everybody. Yeah, for me,

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I'm basically dead. Even I was on a nice run

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and then Friday happened. Two of the most rotten losers

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you could have going into the weekend. Trigg, I believe

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you were on both of these with me. We gave

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out right, Yeah, we gave out right State. Let's alway,

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let's stay positive, Trig. It's almost the holiday season. But

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you know we had right State. We gave that out

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in the afternoon on Friday. They were up out a

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double digit dog, that's up outright at the half against Butler.

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Speaker 5: They get absolutely smoked in the second half.

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Speaker 4: And then Mississippi State I had at night on Friday

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against SMU. They were winning the entire second half. Of course,

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the game goes to overtime and they lose. So that

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was a frustrating Friday in college hoops. But like I said,

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got it back in the NFL yesterday and ready for

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a nice week go No, I guess I don't know.

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over being canceled this afternoon again, guys catching a slate.

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The Chicago State South Carolina State game, scheduled for a

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noon Eastern time tip on Monday to eighteen will not

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be taking place. South Carolina State was unable to make

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, we've rambled for five minutes, but I guess

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that was the time sort of allotted to talk that

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day game, which is now not happening. So let's actually

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talk some basketball now six minutes in the show, because

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there is a lot to talk about today.

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Speaker 2: There is a lot to talk about today.

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Speaker 1: There's still just because there's no Top twenty five games

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doesn't mean there's not a lot of good spots to

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look at on the card. So I guess we'll kick

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it off out in Philly. This is a Big five matchup.

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If you will Temple Villanova, I'll bring Robin here is

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this is his neck of the woods, and then we'll

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Speaker 2: Is this game at LL. This is at Villanova, I

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believe on Villanova's campus.

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Speaker 3: Correct, this is not Villanova's campus, yet they don't. Yeah,

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that's interesting, guys. They became very very I don't know

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Villanova's money, a little bit of an elitist attitude, and

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they won't play in places like the Palestra much anymore.

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in Britamar and play a Villanova. So that's just a

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little sidebar there, go ahead.

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Speaker 1: Ed, No, I want I wanted to kick off the

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breakdown and just kind of make sure because you always

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got to check with with these Philly schools. Are they

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playing like Nova has two arenas. They're either going to

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play at the Pavilion or they're gonna play downtown or

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sometimes they play in the Polestra.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, start us off, Brian Temple, Villanova.

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Speaker 4: Oh no, I was just gonna add that the winner here,

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you know, they're doing a big five classic deal you

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talk about Philly at large.

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Speaker 5: The winner here is.

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Speaker 4: Playing Penn on Saturday. So and I don't know what

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happens to the loser if they just you know, eat

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cheese steaks or maybe Rob has some information.

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Speaker 5: On that, but yeah, I think that's the that's the deal.

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Speaker 4: The winner of this game gets to face another Philly

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school pen on Saturday.

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Speaker 3: All right, so real quick, let's get going here with

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the game, guys. And for me, two big factors. One,

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no Duke Brendan for Villanova. They win without him the

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other day, but Duke Brennan now out indefinitely. And I'm

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going to give you a quote from Kevin Willard on

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his absence, talking about having to play without him and

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having to play smaller as a group. He said, that's

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something we're still not very good at because we don't

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have time to practice it. The more we practice it,

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the more comfortable we'll get with five guys out there

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who can shoot, pass, and dribble. Last year, Villanova shot

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the three real well. They shot the lights out against

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this Temple team. Adam Fisher, head coach of Temple said,

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going into it last year, we wanted to take away

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their threes. We didn't do it. They shot over fifty percent.

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his statement about this year's team, our defense has got

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to improve. We've got to get better. I'm really disappointed

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Adam Fisher on the Temple defense. So small lineup, batch

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of shooters team and an opponent that couldn't stop them

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from shooting the batasketball last year and making shots this year.

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doing what they have to do today. It makes for

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an interesting matchup for me. I'm fairly interested in playing

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the over here guys and it's been bet down. I

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think it might come down a couple more points. I

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might get involved. I haven't bet it yet, but I

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do think that you're going to see more pace out

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of Villanova now without Brennan in the game. They do

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win Saturday. I think it was eighty nine to seventy

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five against ODU. That's one hundred and sixty four point game.

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Temple not the most dependable when it comes to the

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offensive side, but I think when you're lacking size on

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the other side, you can get a lot of second

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chances and stuff like that that wouldn't have occurred wouldn't

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have occurred if Brennan was in the lineup. So for me,

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just very briefly, it will be a shot at the

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over and maybe a slight one. If in fact I

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can get this thing knocked down a couple more points,

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if there's enough bandwagon to the move and push it

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even further down, I think I could like it if

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I get to If I get to forty seven and

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a half, I think I'll be there on the over

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neck game.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Look, I know the tendency is to call Villanova with

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so many new faces, a surprising five and one. Certainly

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up to number forty two in the Ken Palm ratings

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at this juncture of the season for first year head

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coach Kevin Willard. But Worth noting Nova has gone off

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as a double digit favorite each of their five wins

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Speaker 5: Really can't be surprising if they're, you know, a double

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digit favorite all five wins.

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Speaker 4: Temple, meanwhile, I think it's fair to say they're just

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putting four and three straight up. They'd gone off as

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the favorite in every game prior to the last one.

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the last five, I was just two and three straight up.

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something we need to bring up here. They lost some

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pretty good teams Rhode Island, UCSD, Boston College. But Worth

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noting the two wins for Temple in those last five

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games over Princeton and Hawstra by a combined only by

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a combined nine points. I think the other thing worth

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noting about Temple is every game since the opener has

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made it over the total. Rob touched on the total. Defensively,

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Temple's not been good two hundred he read the coaches quotes. Well,

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they're two hundred ninety eighth in adjusted efficiency at that

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end of the floor.

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Speaker 5: These teams met last season. Rob brought this up.

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Speaker 4: Nova shot the lights out a school record actually was

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set in nineteen made threes. It was a ninety four

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to sixty five blowout as nine and a half point favorites.

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Eighth time in the last nine meetings that Nova has.

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Speaker 5: Been the winner.

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Speaker 4: All eight of those wins, Nova covered the spread and

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won by double digits. And that three point record Nova

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set last year against Temple, well they've since broke it.

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against Sacred Heart. So I think the expectation here is

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Villanova winning in a high scoring game. But I kind

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of lean trigged the points with Temple here, maybe a

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by low spot. This is a team Temple that closes

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a favorite on a neutral floor against UC San Diego,

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who's now seven and oh straight up six and zero

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against the number. Rob mentioned the Duke Brennan injury. He's

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the nation's leader in rebounds per game at fourteen point four.

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Temple's pretty good rebounding team in its own right. In fact,

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how about number six nationally in defensive rebounding rates. So

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perhaps the edge on the boards will go to them tonight.

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As far as the total, I actually part of me

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wanted to go under, but the number has moved a

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little too much. Nova's been playing slow. Rob's point is

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well taken that we maybe could see an increase in pace.

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So if you forced me to make a bet here,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's how I would look as well. My initial

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number was very close to what the market was. I

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just was trying to pull it up here. I mean

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at thirteen, so it opened fourteen. I agree with the

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move down at twelve and a half. So a couple

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things I'll say about Villanova, Like they're they're definitely a

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better coached team with Kevin Willard. Like they're not they're

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not struggling in these like like playing down like they

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did at times under Kyle Neptune. But they are like

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this is a not a good basketball team, like on paper,

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like you look at this roster, it's this is a

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bad roster for big EIE standards. I mean they they're

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basically they're two big gets in the portal where Duke

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Brennan who's now out and ask you from Long Beach

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State like this is this just isn't a very good roster.

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they get into like playing some some teams that are

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that are in their weight class. Now Temple, I wish, honestly,

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I wish I had more faith in Temple. I wish

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I was higher on them because I probably would have

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taken the fourteen at the Open. I'm just I just

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haven't been for a lot of the things. Uh you

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know that that sort of rob pointed out with the

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amount of points they'll give up, so on and so forth.

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But like you look at this Villanova team, and yes

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they did come back and make that BYU score line respectable,

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lost by five, ended up covering they were down big

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at one point in that game. And then the teams

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that they're playing to this point, Queen's Sacred Heart, Ducane Lisal,

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Old Dominion, like they, as you said, Brian, their double

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digit favorites in every game. Some of those teams like

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struggle to play up, and I think that'll be a

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theme of of sort of the show today is like

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trying to evaluate teams playing up in these types of

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games because we have a lot of matchups like that today.

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Now Temple is already sort of up. Like the American

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is not really a mid major conference, like I know,

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like people will say it is now, but like they're

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still playing teams like Memphis and and you know UAB

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like they like, I don't really think that this is

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like Nova against Sacred Heart or Nova against Dukane. But

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yet the Sacred Heart line in that in that or

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I'm sorry, the Dukane line I think was similar ten

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and a half. Sacred Heart I believe was a they

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were a twenty point dog. But like the thing is,

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like Temple's probably a little bit better than the last

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five teams Villanova played. You take Brendan out, I think

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you have an okay bet with Temple plus the points here.

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Speaker 4: Yeah all right, No, I was gonna say Nova was

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at home a favorite of seventeen or more in three

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of the four home games during this win streak.

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Speaker 1: And Keith Keith makes a good point, like they've got

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Michigan on deck. That's definitely a bigger game for Nova

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that comes up next week. Now, I know, I don't

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really know if I qualify that as a look ahead

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spot eight days from now, but like that's probably where

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that's probably.

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Speaker 2: Where Nova's getting run out of the gym.

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Speaker 1: Like, especially if they like cover this number, they'll probably

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get smashed by Michigan.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, let's move on. Garth, thank you for

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the donation.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate you and all of you guys that watched the show,

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Speaker 2: It helps us keep this thing going. But we will get.

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Speaker 1: Guard's game in here. Thoughts on Iona Delaware. I believe

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it's Iona all the way. He's taking Iona minus one

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and a half. So I'll throw it to you, Brian Power,

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you've been kind of high on the gals this year.

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Do you have any interest in Iona on the road

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at Delaware tonight?

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Speaker 4: I think this is a one factor handicap, and I'll

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let maybe Rob expound on this point. It's three point shooting, right,

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we talk about it. That's the reality in modern college basketball.

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If we could all know, if we could all predict

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the three point variants correctly before tip off, we all

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be millionaires. And you take a look at this matchup

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here between Iona and Delaware. Delaware has shot the three

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extraordinarily well to this point, particularly at home. But what

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is one of the key things that is fueled this

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Iona start. Well, they're just not letting opponents hit the

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three very much of it. Teams are hitting twenty six

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percent from downtown against the Gales. So you have to

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ask yourself, and I don't know. I can't predict this.

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I don't have the answer. Guys, I apologize, but you

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know what's gonna is Delaware? You know what's gonna regress here?

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Is it? Is it Delaware's three point shooting or ionne

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is three point shooting against I don't know if Rob

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has any insight there as I weasel my way out.

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Speaker 3: Well, and let's say this, the Delaware's point distribution fifth

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highest in the nation coming from three point range. So

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to say they're dependent upon the three is an understatement

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at this point in time. You go back the last

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couple of games. They shot it really well. Last game

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thirteen of twenty five, but prior to that against Southern

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Illinois eight of thirty. And I think if you focus

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on taking their perimeter away, which Iona obviously has been

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good at this year. We don't want to say you

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can stop, but you can contain them, and containing them

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is probably enough for Iona to win here at a

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game that's near pick them. Certainly, Iona has more options.

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They're somewhat three point dependent too, but nowhere near the

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level of what Delaware has been so far this year.

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Good news for Delaware. It's in their home gym. It's

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not a huge factor as far as fan fans helping

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decide these concerned, Bob Carpenter auditorium or gymnasium, whatever it's

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called over here in Newark, not really a big home

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floor advantage at this point in time. But it is

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the deciding factor in this game, Brian, whether or not

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Delaware comes through and bangs out and they're going to

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have to hit a bunch of threes, let's put it

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that way, because defensively they're inept for the most part,

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so Iona should score their share. To me, it's a

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bit surprising that the number is where it is, given

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the way that Iona has shown to play this season.

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I would look that way, guys, just based upon how

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Delaware's numbers have bounced. It's another reason why a lot

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of times you just can't look at the overall, go

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back and scout individual games and see if a team

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is capable of playing three point defense? Did Delaware shoot

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good against that team? And it's why I bring up

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the Southern Illinois game. So for me, it would be

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Iona here, Adams muted.

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Speaker 2: Muted, hold on. So I want to bring this comment up.

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Speaker 1: This is interesting to me because I think a lot

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of people think this way and I somewhat disagree, and

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I guess I'll kind of base my handicap off this.

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So line is weird. It should be Iona minus six.

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I very much disagree with that. I make Delaware one

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point favorite on their home floor here now doesn't mean

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I'm going to rush to that Delaware plus one and

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a half. No, But like the the that thought process

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I think is permeated into the market with with Iona. Now,

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I'll go back to the summer and coming into the season,

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Iona makes a coaching change. They go from Tobin Anderson,

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who like was only there for a couple of years.

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He was the guy that took Fairley Dickinson to the

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tournament beat Purdue. Took the Iona job and kind of

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like was a little bit surprising. I know in mac circles,

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I you know, talk to a lot of people and

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you know that they're tuned into the MAC because Sienna

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is a MAX school. Very surprising that Iona sort of,

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you know, went the direction they did, got rid of

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Tobin Anderson, bringing Dan Girou, who was an NBA guy

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assistant from somewhere. I don't don't know where he was

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an assistant, but his comments going into the season were

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very much like almost like hey, like we're we're really

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starting this from the from the ground, like we're it's

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almost like a year zero. Like if you read between

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the lines, I know Rob's a big comments guy and

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listening to what the coaches are trying to tell you.

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I felt like he was telling us, hey, like if

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we don't look great great coming out of the gate,

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like just give us time. Like we're trying to do

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this the right way. I got, you know, the guys

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I want in and I want to build this thing.

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Like so like we're keeping it simple in the early going.

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Speaker 2: What did I own to.

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Speaker 1: Do they came out and shot the lights out in

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their first few games, like could not miss a shot Hawstra.

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That that Hastra game they were up like twenty two

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to four. I think the first nine shots of the

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game went in. I mean just unconscious uh umkc. They

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literally didn't miss the entire game. They go on the road,

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drop one ZH five.

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Speaker 3: That.

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Speaker 1: This is what I'm saying, like Fordham and the Princeton game,

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could not miss a shot. So then they go to

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the MTE and suddenly, in my opinion, the regression that

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I thought would come at some point comes. They get

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run out by Acron, which is not a bad loss.

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That's a very very good Acron team. So no, no,

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nothing wrong with that. They really should have lost to

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Oregon State. They were fortunate to sort of win that game.

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They had to hit a couple of big sh I

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believe put that game into overtime and then oh, double OT,

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so they need to hit big shots to put that

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game in OT. They end up winning in double overtime,

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and then they lose to Green Bay. So my gut

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with Iona, a team that I watch closely of course

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as a Siana guy, can't stand them.

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Speaker 2: There are mac rival always want.

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Speaker 1: To see them fail, but like I feel like the

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profile on them is still very like raised. I don't

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know if I want to call it inflated, because you

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have to give them credit. They've played well and Jiro like,

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there's a reason that they fired a coach that probably

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didn't deserve to be fired.

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Speaker 2: To bring this guy in.

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Speaker 1: They must see something there in the way that he's

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going to go about things. So I don't want to

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say they're inflated, but like to say that they should

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be a six point favorite on the road against the

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team that's very similar I would disagree with and for

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Delaware at some point, I think it's gonna matter that

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Justin Fernandez is back. So like Justin Fernandez missed the

476
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first few games of the season, he came back against

477
00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:04,359
Saint Peter's. He didn't you know, the Southern Illinois game

478
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:08,039
was probably a bad matchup for them, but like Greensboro

479
00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:11,000
twelve point seven boards, they were like a pick in

480
00:23:11,039 --> 00:23:13,559
that game and they sort of dominated UNC Greensboro. Now

481
00:23:13,559 --> 00:23:15,559
this is a step up for them, but they're back

482
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on their home floor. I guess for me, I just

483
00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:20,519
like I don't think it's a foregone conclusion that Iona

484
00:23:20,599 --> 00:23:23,480
goes on the road and just wins this game, and

485
00:23:23,559 --> 00:23:25,839
I actually lean toward Delaware, but I don't know if

486
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:27,319
I'm gonna bet it, so I don't want to put

487
00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:29,480
you off in Iona bet. But that's just sort of

488
00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:31,160
how I see two teams that I that I do

489
00:23:31,279 --> 00:23:35,640
kind of follow closely. All right, let's let's move on.

490
00:23:35,759 --> 00:23:39,240
So we started this flip a coin for the twelve

491
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pm game. There is no twelve pm game sonically, they

492
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canceled that game due to weather. So technically our breakdown

493
00:23:46,799 --> 00:23:48,799
the first five minutes, which was more or less like

494
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us complaining and just talking about the weekend, was also

495
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to inform you that that Chicago State in South Carolina

496
00:23:55,799 --> 00:23:59,839
State got canceled. Okay, let's move it along. A lot

497
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of questions and a lot of we have plenty of

498
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time to get to games. Here's one that Slickvic. Slickvic

499
00:24:06,799 --> 00:24:09,400
has a question. He says, how about Bowling Green plus

500
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thirteen versus Case State? And this is sort of like

501
00:24:12,519 --> 00:24:16,559
what I teased for a second, and I'll throw I'll

502
00:24:16,559 --> 00:24:18,119
just leave it open to both of you to comment

503
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,839
on this. But like certain teams, so I've come on

504
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,279
the show and said, I like this Bowling Green team,

505
00:24:23,799 --> 00:24:25,839
Brian Power, and I got to see Bowling Green play

506
00:24:25,839 --> 00:24:29,880
against Lamoyne. I think they are very impressive, like in

507
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,039
their weight class. And when I say weight class, I

508
00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:35,720
keep throwing this term around, but it's like against teams

509
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,680
that are rated near you and ken Pom that that

510
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:43,000
are competitively lined type games. I'm not sure that Bowling

511
00:24:43,039 --> 00:24:44,640
Green is the type of team that I want to

512
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:48,359
back when they play up playing a team like k

513
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:50,160
State that can fill it up the way they can,

514
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because their most redeeming quality to me was their defense,

515
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:55,319
and they've they've had a couple of these games where

516
00:24:55,319 --> 00:24:58,160
they've gone on sort of scoring lulls, and I wonder

517
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if that gets exposed here. So open the Florida you guys, Brian,

518
00:25:02,279 --> 00:25:03,079
you want to kick us off?

519
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, just go quick talking about that, Yeah, I'll go

520
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:06,039
quick here.

521
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:08,160
Speaker 5: Look, Kansas State should be happy to be back home.

522
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,480
Speaker 4: That's where they started the season with five straight home wins,

523
00:25:10,519 --> 00:25:12,440
but back to back losses for the Wildcats. They lose

524
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by one to Nebraska in Kansas City, then by seventeen

525
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:18,200
at Indiana last Tuesday. I saw some people in the

526
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chat reference that result Tang's comments afterwards that lost Indiana

527
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,960
was Case State's lowest scoring game of the season so far,

528
00:25:26,079 --> 00:25:28,480
first game getting held below eighty four points.

529
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Speaker 5: P J.

530
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Speaker 4: Haggerty, He didn't just lead this team in scoring, Guys,

531
00:25:31,079 --> 00:25:33,160
he leads the entire country twenty six point three points

532
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,759
per game. He was held to a season low sixteen

533
00:25:35,799 --> 00:25:39,279
points seven of seventeen shooting. Now, I don't think the

534
00:25:39,279 --> 00:25:42,400
Wildcats should necessarily be expecting a walk over here just

535
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,240
because they're back in Manhattan bowling Green. I think is

536
00:25:45,279 --> 00:25:47,640
gonna be up for this game, you know, Trig. I

537
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,079
think your point is well taken about. Are they able

538
00:25:50,079 --> 00:25:52,599
to punch up in weight class so to speak. Well,

539
00:25:52,759 --> 00:25:54,759
they're gonna the players should be excited. This is their

540
00:25:54,799 --> 00:25:57,359
only game this season against the Power Conference opponent. I

541
00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:01,519
believe the Falcons number four the country when it comes

542
00:26:01,599 --> 00:26:04,000
to forcing turnovers, not to mention top twenty five and

543
00:26:04,519 --> 00:26:07,400
defensive rebound rate. Of course, some of that does have

544
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:11,440
to do with a fairly pedestrian schedule. You mentioned us

545
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:15,039
seeing BG in person, Trigg. They beat Lemoine by twenty three.

546
00:26:15,079 --> 00:26:17,200
After that, they lose to Davidson, They lose to William

547
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,440
and Mary they've just bounced back with wins over Bucknell

548
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:23,000
and VM. I My concern for Bowling Green here, and

549
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:24,839
I wonder if Robs the point of this is defending

550
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:28,079
the three. They're allowing a pretty high shot volume from behind.

551
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,519
The are just a lot of attempts, and Kansas State,

552
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,480
who likes to play fast, they're shooting the three at

553
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:35,240
one of the best percentage of the country right now,

554
00:26:35,319 --> 00:26:41,400
forty two point nine. So yeah, can Bowling Green stop that?

555
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:42,400
That's the whole key to the game.

556
00:26:47,279 --> 00:26:50,400
Speaker 2: You're muted, we're at.

557
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,079
Speaker 3: That dog was making some noise here. I don't know

558
00:26:54,079 --> 00:26:55,880
if he likes my player or not. He was borking on.

559
00:26:56,759 --> 00:26:58,799
But I'm going to combine this for you and just

560
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,599
make this my first leg the parlay here, Brian, you

561
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:06,519
mentioned the three point stuff. My main reason for playing

562
00:27:06,559 --> 00:27:09,519
the Kansas State team total over eighty five and a half.

563
00:27:09,559 --> 00:27:12,839
Here is the pace. Todd Simon, when he was back

564
00:27:12,839 --> 00:27:15,680
at Southern Utah just known for pace, hasn't really gotten

565
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,920
it as quick as he likes it at Bowling Green.

566
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:23,880
But this year it's risen and risen substantially to I

567
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:27,880
think seventy one something possessions per game. Bowling Green is

568
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,480
a team that doesn't hold the ball along on offense

569
00:27:31,279 --> 00:27:34,000
and the opponent gets it up quick on defense. And

570
00:27:34,039 --> 00:27:36,279
that's exactly the type of game Case State wants to play.

571
00:27:36,319 --> 00:27:38,880
And they're off a bad shooting performance, a low scoring

572
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:42,759
performance against Indiana. The defensive difference between Indiana and Bowling

573
00:27:42,799 --> 00:27:45,160
Green is night and day. I just feel like you're

574
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,039
gonna get an up and down game here, both teams

575
00:27:47,039 --> 00:27:49,480
that want to go a team that can really shoot

576
00:27:49,559 --> 00:27:52,079
lights out. Brian, you mentioned back home should be glad

577
00:27:52,079 --> 00:27:57,599
to be back home. Totally agree for K State and

578
00:27:58,319 --> 00:27:59,920
eighty five and a half. When I go up in

579
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,599
down what they've done this year ninety three, well, I

580
00:28:02,599 --> 00:28:05,160
guess you said. I'll just use your words. They were

581
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:08,119
held to under eighty four for the first time last game.

582
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,200
It's a team that lives in this range or above.

583
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,680
They've got an opponent here that will allow them to

584
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:18,319
shot opportunities to score that many points. Just to me,

585
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:20,240
it adds up all too well to being a K

586
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,240
State team. Total over. Now that being said, I almost

587
00:28:23,279 --> 00:28:26,640
feel like Bowling Green and I won't play K State

588
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,160
as the favorite because I feel like Bowling Green might

589
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,880
be able to score their share as well. Kansas State

590
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:35,720
shows us nothing defensively all season long. They prefer to

591
00:28:35,799 --> 00:28:39,400
score rather than defend. So I think isolating this game

592
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,680
is the absolute best way to go here. So for me,

593
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:43,640
first leg of the parla is going to be Kansas

594
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,799
State team total up and over. I'm using the consensus

595
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,599
number here, guys, eighty five and a half shop out

596
00:28:49,599 --> 00:28:51,519
there as best you can. I know there's some eighty

597
00:28:51,559 --> 00:28:53,240
six and a half's out there. I wouldn't be opposed

598
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,160
to going over that either, but you always want to

599
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:56,599
get the best number and what I'm seeing for a

600
00:28:56,680 --> 00:29:00,759
consensus is eighty five and a half over. Yeah, it's

601
00:29:00,759 --> 00:29:02,880
got juice attached to it, Adam real quick, because I

602
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,839
know when you're factoring into parlay, it's got a dollar

603
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:07,839
twenty two attached to it.

604
00:29:08,519 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 1: All right, Yeah, no, I'll put that in so case

605
00:29:10,519 --> 00:29:13,200
State over eighty five and a half with some juice

606
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:16,400
is what we're seeing out there. And I just want

607
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,759
to point out that, like if I if you forced

608
00:29:18,759 --> 00:29:20,839
me to bet this game, I would still take Bowling

609
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:22,880
Green plus the points like that would be that would

610
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,359
be the only side I'd be interested in. I guess

611
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,799
the reason I am not or haven't done that yet

612
00:29:28,839 --> 00:29:31,519
and probably won't. Is a my number came out right

613
00:29:31,519 --> 00:29:34,400
on market, like twelve and a half or thirteen B.

614
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:38,359
Like my thing with Bowling Green, like I love what

615
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,240
I like about them this year is their athleticism and

616
00:29:41,279 --> 00:29:44,759
their ability to defend, and I just don't know that

617
00:29:44,799 --> 00:29:47,480
they can do those things against Kansas State for a

618
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,480
lot of the reasons that Rob just said. Now, if

619
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:54,279
they can, if they're scoring, Kansas State's are atrocious defensively,

620
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:58,119
Like there's still just a bad defensive team. So like

621
00:29:58,160 --> 00:29:59,640
if you want to take a look at over one

622
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,480
sixth I could kind of see that getting there, especially

623
00:30:02,519 --> 00:30:05,640
if this game does get into the scenario where like

624
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,599
you've got k State up ten or up twelve, and

625
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:10,799
now they're just not really trying anymore.

626
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:12,559
Speaker 2: At the defensive end, because like that's the thing.

627
00:30:12,599 --> 00:30:15,079
Speaker 1: If Kansas State lets up a little bit, like Bowling

628
00:30:15,119 --> 00:30:17,319
Green can put the ball in the hoop, They're just

629
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,319
like I just think that, like if if you get

630
00:30:19,319 --> 00:30:21,279
them into like a scenario where they've got to run

631
00:30:21,319 --> 00:30:24,640
a half court offense, they're gonna have to hit some threes.

632
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:26,799
And that's why I don't really want them on the

633
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:28,839
road in this spot. But Rob, I think you've got

634
00:30:28,839 --> 00:30:33,200
yourself a smart team total. It feels like this is

635
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,880
probably pretty high scoring. We need to hit a parlay too.

636
00:30:37,119 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 4: We've got after the one of the most incredible starts

637
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to the history of any show in the history.

638
00:30:41,039 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 5: Of the internet. We've gone cold on a parlay.

639
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Speaker 2: And it's not worry.

640
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Speaker 4: I'll should I bring up, Trigg the fact that it

641
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is as a matter of fact, I'm gonna go into

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Speaker 1: C Why b E R two zero, Brian Power, I

665
00:31:55,799 --> 00:31:58,119
want to go back to you here because we were

666
00:31:58,279 --> 00:32:02,039
just like, honestly, the feature game should have been Colorado

667
00:32:02,119 --> 00:32:04,279
cal Baptist. So we're gonna do it. We're gonna do

668
00:32:04,279 --> 00:32:08,759
a mid show part two feature here. Those are two

669
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seven and oh teams that are that are getting together

670
00:32:12,079 --> 00:32:17,079
tonight on ESPN Plus. This should be on actual television somewhere.

671
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But at any rate, fire up your ESPN Plus subscription

672
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for Colorado cal Baptist both seven, seven and zero.

673
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Speaker 2: At the was it the Corps Events Center?

674
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:32,759
Speaker 1: I think it's called in Boulder, Colorado Kick us off here?

675
00:32:32,839 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 2: BP. Do you have any interest in the dog.

676
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 5: I'm yeah, kind of, I do.

677
00:32:39,519 --> 00:32:41,839
Speaker 4: And I was very excited to talk about this game

678
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,680
because to me, it is the marquee matchup of Monday guys,

679
00:32:45,359 --> 00:32:48,640
with both teams coming in undefeated. Colorado off to its

680
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,200
best start in seventy five years, cal Baptist off to

681
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:54,079
its best ever start in eight years at the D

682
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:57,359
one level. But this is one of those games trick

683
00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:00,440
and we got in some trouble with this last week.

684
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:04,960
My power ratings were in line with where odds makers opened,

685
00:33:05,599 --> 00:33:08,119
and now the line has moved and I'm at the

686
00:33:08,119 --> 00:33:13,480
point where I'm showing value. I'm the dog getting it's

687
00:33:13,519 --> 00:33:15,079
now off the twelve and a half. This has moved

688
00:33:15,079 --> 00:33:19,000
I believe three points off the opener. I was very

689
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:20,559
excited to talk about. I think I need to be

690
00:33:20,599 --> 00:33:23,519
careful with these because it's not it's not public money

691
00:33:23,519 --> 00:33:24,880
that's moving these numbers.

692
00:33:25,039 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 3: Right.

693
00:33:25,839 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 1: What do you think about Jake's comment? What do you

694
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:30,680
think about that both teams are a fake seven? And Oh,

695
00:33:30,759 --> 00:33:32,240
I kind of agree with that a little bit.

696
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, kind of, I mean, I don't know.

697
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:39,799
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, cal Baptist wasn't overall that it

698
00:33:39,839 --> 00:33:41,759
was Saturday night they faced to Oregon State.

699
00:33:43,279 --> 00:33:44,559
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I think you know.

700
00:33:44,559 --> 00:33:47,519
Speaker 4: There's twenty five college basketball team still undefeated.

701
00:33:47,559 --> 00:33:47,839
Speaker 3: Guys.

702
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:51,759
Speaker 5: If you were to rank those twenty five, cal Baptist

703
00:33:51,799 --> 00:33:53,799
is certainly one of the weakest. Let me just go

704
00:33:53,799 --> 00:33:54,640
to Ken quick.

705
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 4: Cal Baptist would be the third weakest of the twenty

706
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:01,920
five remaining unbeaten teams. Colorado's actually a couple spots higher,

707
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,079
even though they're you know, Colorado sixty third.

708
00:34:04,119 --> 00:34:06,359
Speaker 5: The Ken palund ratings cal Baptist one hundred and thirtieth.

709
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,280
Speaker 4: For the record, the only two unbeaten teams Ken Palm

710
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:12,239
has rated lower than cal Baptists would be Miami of

711
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:16,000
Ohio by one point, and then Buffalo up in your

712
00:34:16,039 --> 00:34:18,079
neck of the woods is the lowest rated undefeated team

713
00:34:18,119 --> 00:34:18,719
at Ken Pump.

714
00:34:21,519 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll hop you in here, guys, Adam, I'll use

715
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:31,320
your term weight class. Cal Baptist picked by many to

716
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:35,000
win their league and off to a great start, but

717
00:34:36,079 --> 00:34:38,280
facing a big twelve team on the road in altitude,

718
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,119
are they out of their weight class? A couple of

719
00:34:40,119 --> 00:34:42,639
things that stick out to me here, guys. The height

720
00:34:42,639 --> 00:34:48,199
advantage in this game is insane toward Colorado. Colorado the

721
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,920
twenty sixth tallest team in the nation, and they've got

722
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:54,679
four six or elevens or better. And cal Baptist runs around

723
00:34:54,960 --> 00:35:00,639
out there with guards and swings and one center, and

724
00:35:01,079 --> 00:35:04,880
to that point they are number one in the country

725
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,559
in defensive rebounding. We see a lot of these teams

726
00:35:07,599 --> 00:35:11,280
in college basketball where the guards and the wings do

727
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:14,079
a whole bunch of rebounding. But then you run up

728
00:35:14,079 --> 00:35:18,599
against a team with guys like Colorado has Dak and company.

729
00:35:18,679 --> 00:35:22,599
Dak has been on fire lately for those who may

730
00:35:22,639 --> 00:35:24,679
get to watch the stream and have never seen him play.

731
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:26,360
A seven to one guy who can put it on

732
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,239
the floor from beyond the three point arc and get

733
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:31,840
to the rim, just a multi skilled big guy, but

734
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:36,119
Colorado has multiple big guys. Just the rebounding edge to

735
00:35:36,159 --> 00:35:38,760
me has to go to Colorado in a huge way here.

736
00:35:39,159 --> 00:35:42,400
Even though cal Baptist does have that very gaudy number

737
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:46,880
one ranking. They're a good defensive team. Rick Croy known

738
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:52,840
for defense. A couple of things here. Both teams stop

739
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,360
there or excuse me. Colorado shoots the three real well.

740
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,119
Cal Baptist stops the three real well. Can Colorado make

741
00:35:58,159 --> 00:36:00,639
their threes? I'm gonna give you because I'm the quotes

742
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:02,639
like you say, Brian, I'm gonna give you Tad Boyle,

743
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,239
who is always I don't know if there's a coach

744
00:36:06,519 --> 00:36:09,360
that I don't want to say throws his team under

745
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,800
the bus but can be derogatory towards his team more

746
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,719
than Tad Boyle, I really don't. And here's what he said.

747
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,480
They just come off of winning the Actorssure Holiday tournament,

748
00:36:18,559 --> 00:36:21,440
right and for him, he said, when our team puts

749
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,159
the Colorado name ahead of the name on the back

750
00:36:23,199 --> 00:36:25,599
of their jersey, really good things can happen and you

751
00:36:25,639 --> 00:36:28,159
can win championships. This was a small championship, but every

752
00:36:28,159 --> 00:36:30,400
one of these tournaments played throughout the country, you have

753
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,840
an opportunity to compete for a championship. That's something we relished.

754
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,800
They came out victorious in there. That's Tad Boyle one

755
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,519
more time telling his team, you know, let's play as

756
00:36:39,519 --> 00:36:41,679
a team. He seems to do that off and off

757
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:43,960
and off, and Colorado seems to be getting the message.

758
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:48,639
I wonder where side is concerned here. If you're off

759
00:36:48,639 --> 00:36:51,480
a tournament championship and then you have cal Baptist. They

760
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:53,519
come with a seven to zero record. But how excited,

761
00:36:53,519 --> 00:36:57,360
Are you really? I'm not sure. For cal Baptist the

762
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:00,280
other side of the coin, Rick Freuch, if I had

763
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:04,159
to downplay there win against Oregon State, basically says, I

764
00:37:04,199 --> 00:37:05,880
don't want to call it a statement game. Let's just

765
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:09,679
call it a stamp on our record. Is the team

766
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,639
thoroughly excited that they beat Oregon State? I talked about

767
00:37:12,639 --> 00:37:14,760
weight class, you would think Oregon State's a little bit

768
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:18,599
above weight class. I'm not sure I could give you reasons,

769
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:22,360
or I could use those two as arguments against one

770
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,639
hundred percent focus out of both of these teams. I

771
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:29,519
just if push came to shove here. You know, I

772
00:37:29,559 --> 00:37:32,079
love the energy out of cal Baptist, but I just

773
00:37:32,119 --> 00:37:37,599
think that at some point the physical difference at the rim,

774
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:41,360
the rim protection, the ability to get second chances, et cetera,

775
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:44,800
et cetera, probably outweighs what cal Baptist does best. Don't

776
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,360
like the line increase here whatsoever, So I won't play it.

777
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:50,559
But that's just my take on this particular game. As

778
00:37:50,599 --> 00:37:53,079
we lose Triggs, so let me keep going here, or

779
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:55,320
maybe he'll hop right back.

780
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 5: I thought that was me there. Hopefully that's computabile. I'll

781
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:00,280
tell you what the one day last week you missed Rob.

782
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:01,639
We had some technical difficulties.

783
00:38:01,679 --> 00:38:04,599
Speaker 3: No, but keep going. Yeah, and Keith is absolutely right.

784
00:38:04,599 --> 00:38:07,280
I mean, Daniel's at the point has been tremendous this year.

785
00:38:08,119 --> 00:38:11,559
As we go through the comments here, but they're so again.

786
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:16,480
When you're four is six foot five, it's hard and

787
00:38:16,519 --> 00:38:19,119
I get you know, energy wise, you can get to

788
00:38:19,159 --> 00:38:22,000
the boards. But Colorado's got too many big guys. So

789
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:24,320
I don't know what more I can say about the

790
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,639
game right now, other than I didn't play. I can

791
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:31,199
see both arguments towards this game. Colorado has been an extremely,

792
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:34,719
extremely high scoring team. It's almost like I'm playing three

793
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:38,360
card Monthy on the New York City. The switching up

794
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:42,719
bases and that's the other thing Colorado can score. And

795
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,800
if this thing starts to create margin, is Colbat is

796
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:47,320
good enough to come back? Yeah.

797
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 4: And we've seen games like this where the number moves

798
00:38:49,519 --> 00:38:51,679
like this, where it's been spot on.

799
00:38:52,599 --> 00:38:55,159
Speaker 3: Oh see, I thought it was underneath the first show,

800
00:38:55,199 --> 00:38:57,000
but it's not that the first show is going now.

801
00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,559
Speaker 5: Oh, I guess we will not have what's behind door

802
00:38:59,639 --> 00:39:01,280
number three. I was all excited. I was going to

803
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:04,440
give out I don't know. I'm leaning towards Temple is

804
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:05,400
my leg of the parlay.

805
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,800
Speaker 4: Guys, I know that we you know, we're two thirds

806
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:09,360
of the way in the show, almost hit the forty

807
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,159
minute mark, and we've only got one leg of the

808
00:39:11,159 --> 00:39:16,039
parlay in. That is Rob, who gave Kansas State team

809
00:39:16,119 --> 00:39:19,480
total over at eighty five and a half against Bowling Green.

810
00:39:19,599 --> 00:39:22,639
Just a reminder while we wait for Trig to re

811
00:39:23,079 --> 00:39:26,840
enter the studio. Here, it is cyber Monday at wager

812
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,840
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813
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814
00:39:33,559 --> 00:39:36,440
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815
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:39,039
dot com. That's from Rob, from me, from Trig, from anyone,

816
00:39:39,159 --> 00:39:40,920
quite frankly, but we would really appreciate it if you

817
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:42,679
got it from honey of Us.

818
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:43,079
Speaker 3: Again.

819
00:39:45,199 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 5: You're back, Trig.

820
00:39:49,039 --> 00:39:50,840
Speaker 3: He's figuring it out. No, he's done.

821
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:52,800
Speaker 5: Doesn't see what I see you, Trig.

822
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 3: But oh he's got he's telling us.

823
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 5: Oh, no volume, no volume.

824
00:39:58,559 --> 00:40:03,159
Speaker 4: Okay, well, Joe, we move to the next game here, Rob,

825
00:40:03,199 --> 00:40:06,960
I think we've expanded on cal Baptist Colorado enough. I

826
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:08,519
think we should go to the next game. You want

827
00:40:08,559 --> 00:40:11,239
to do Portland Stanford the late night game, because I've

828
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:16,119
got notes on Portland and our Portland. Yeah, Portland and Stanford. Here,

829
00:40:16,519 --> 00:40:18,199
let me just make a note when we hit this,

830
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:21,480
yere all right, Portland Stanford. I think Rob, it is

831
00:40:21,639 --> 00:40:24,559
very fair to ask what Stanford is going to have

832
00:40:24,639 --> 00:40:26,679
left in the tank here. After a couple of crazy

833
00:40:26,679 --> 00:40:29,800
wins in an emmet in an MTE out in Palm

834
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:32,800
Springs last week, they rally to beat Minnesota seventy two

835
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:35,320
to sixty eight in the closing minutes, then the miracle

836
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:36,719
buzzer beater to beat Saint Louis.

837
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 5: If you guys haven't seen that, you'll want to google it.

838
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 3: Now.

839
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:41,639
Speaker 5: The Cardinals are saying there's gonna be no letdown here.

840
00:40:41,639 --> 00:40:43,039
Speaker 4: Of course that wouldn't they gonna say, Yeah, I think

841
00:40:43,039 --> 00:40:44,480
we're gonna you know, it's probably going me be a

842
00:40:44,519 --> 00:40:46,440
letdown and we're gonna suck our next game. No, they're

843
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:48,480
not going to say that publicly. But this is a

844
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:52,280
big number, Rob My concern to lay with against a

845
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,719
Portland team that is already three and oh straight up

846
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:57,800
against the number against California teams this season. Pilots beat

847
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:00,880
Long Beach State by twenty five and a half point

848
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:02,000
home favorite Wednesday.

849
00:41:02,039 --> 00:41:03,400
Speaker 5: But what does it?

850
00:41:03,519 --> 00:41:06,320
Speaker 4: What discourages me from the Portland side here? All of

851
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:09,480
their wins so far have come at home. Only true

852
00:41:09,519 --> 00:41:13,760
road game to this point was in Laramie. Obviously, that's

853
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:16,760
a tough place to play against Wyoming. Portland gets buried

854
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:19,599
by thirty seven out there, though, That's that's a bad result.

855
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:21,920
Even as tough as it is to play in Laramie.

856
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:26,079
We've got some international flavor on this Portland roster. They

857
00:41:26,119 --> 00:41:30,119
play fast, but turn it over a lot. Meanwhile, Stanford's

858
00:41:30,119 --> 00:41:33,800
adjustin tempo even faster than Portland's. They're forcing a lot

859
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:37,280
of turnovers, do not give up many offensive rebounds top

860
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:41,159
ten in defensive rebound rate. My thought here, rob and

861
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,280
it may twist my arm a little bit for my

862
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:47,800
leg of the parlay. If you were to concur I

863
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,599
think Portland struggles to score here.

864
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:56,360
Speaker 3: And if so, if so, Brian, then you play this

865
00:41:56,519 --> 00:42:00,639
game under one fifty five and a half. You know

866
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:03,119
whether the pace is what it's supposed to be by

867
00:42:03,199 --> 00:42:08,719
numbers or not. I would to further on that, I

868
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:11,880
would worry about your first point here as somebody who

869
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:15,760
had the Saint Louis team total Saturday Night over seventy

870
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:17,719
nine and a half for eighty and a half. Excuse

871
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:20,239
me and watch Saint Louis run through Stanford like they

872
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:22,440
weren't even there in the first half. Saint Louis puts

873
00:42:22,519 --> 00:42:25,320
up forty seven points and then come back in the

874
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:27,599
second half and can't make a shot. That's that happened

875
00:42:27,639 --> 00:42:29,480
to us with Georgia when we're trying to win that

876
00:42:29,519 --> 00:42:31,639
parla fifty three first half points and I was like,

877
00:42:32,159 --> 00:42:34,559
you wonder what happens in the second half, But your

878
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:37,639
initial point was how much is left in the tank

879
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:41,480
for Stanford. Those were two incredible wins in a meaningful tournament.

880
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,280
Now you're back home as a seventeen and a half

881
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:48,119
point favorite in a less meaningful game. I just don't

882
00:42:48,199 --> 00:42:51,639
know that the same amount of focus is provided out

883
00:42:51,639 --> 00:42:55,400
of the Stanford team. And Portland, for what it's worth,

884
00:42:55,679 --> 00:42:59,480
we talked about Delaware being extremely dependent, which a lot

885
00:42:59,519 --> 00:43:03,199
of these low low mid majors i'll call them. What

886
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:05,679
a lot of these types of teams are is dependent

887
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:10,400
upon the three point line. Portland's the opposite. Portland. Inside

888
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:13,320
the arc is where they make their living and so

889
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,440
and you know, if fouls come into play here when

890
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:18,639
you're going and when you're attacking the rim, you draw

891
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:22,199
free throws, et cetera, et cetera. And I wonder if

892
00:43:22,199 --> 00:43:25,280
the matchup here, if Stanford is any bit Lackaday's ago,

893
00:43:25,599 --> 00:43:27,960
any bit lack of days. I know, and you know,

894
00:43:28,039 --> 00:43:32,119
we use this kind of angle a lot in football, Brian,

895
00:43:32,199 --> 00:43:36,119
where you know, situational letdown. And I just thought, and

896
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:39,960
college basketball teams have to get up even quicker as

897
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:42,320
far as time between games is concerned, you know what

898
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:43,920
I mean. You just want to turn over the weekend

899
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,000
now you're back home, and you gotta do it. I

900
00:43:46,119 --> 00:43:50,599
just don't know that I could. I would say throwing

901
00:43:50,599 --> 00:43:53,440
the statistics away is not a real good thing to do,

902
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:59,039
but lessening their value in this instance and putting more

903
00:43:59,039 --> 00:44:02,119
credence into this situation. Portland obviously is going to come

904
00:44:02,119 --> 00:44:04,480
in here. It's Stanford, for goodness sakes. They're going to

905
00:44:04,519 --> 00:44:07,840
give it their best shot, you know, a David Deliath

906
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,519
type scenario, seventeen and a half point Doug for Stanford.

907
00:44:10,519 --> 00:44:12,239
It could be just you know, get off of me

908
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:15,639
a little nets and they could probably turn it on

909
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:19,119
at the end if it's a close game. Maybe, and

910
00:44:19,159 --> 00:44:21,320
this is dependent upon which way you think. There's two

911
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:24,719
sides of the fence here. But possibly if Stanford comes

912
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:27,320
out slow, you look Portland first half, and then maybe

913
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:29,599
Stanford wakes up and blows them out second half. That

914
00:44:29,599 --> 00:44:32,880
could be a possibility too, But Portland might be good

915
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:34,920
enough to hang within seventeen and a half here.

916
00:44:35,559 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, I kind of concur to it is a major

917
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:42,159
lef thoughts about Stanford's got UNLV on deck. So if

918
00:44:42,199 --> 00:44:45,760
you're wondering what they've got up next and trigger is

919
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:47,280
he able to speak?

920
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:49,519
Speaker 2: Can you can you guys hear me?

921
00:44:50,039 --> 00:44:50,800
Speaker 3: Yes, we can.

922
00:44:52,960 --> 00:45:00,880
Speaker 5: Can you hear us? Doesn't seem he can't hear us,

923
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:03,360
but we can hear him. Now. Yeah, it's going kind

924
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:03,719
of slow.

925
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:04,400
Speaker 2: Well, you're here.

926
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:07,119
Speaker 1: And when I was coming back in I had no audio,

927
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:12,559
so oh so yeah, this is uh what about now

928
00:45:12,599 --> 00:45:12,800
is it?

929
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:13,159
Speaker 2: Has it?

930
00:45:14,199 --> 00:45:14,400
Speaker 3: Oh?

931
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:16,639
Speaker 5: The stream was a little was a little you were

932
00:45:16,639 --> 00:45:17,760
moving in slow motion there.

933
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 3: I felt like you're an ether over there.

934
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:21,199
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was gonna say, I was gonna say, if

935
00:45:21,199 --> 00:45:23,039
you're loathing in Las Vegas, Rob.

936
00:45:26,519 --> 00:45:28,519
Speaker 5: I was in the car with Johnny Depp and Benicio

937
00:45:28,559 --> 00:45:34,000
del Toro again, all right, all right, go ahead.

938
00:45:34,119 --> 00:45:36,199
Speaker 1: I think let me just talk for a second. I

939
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:39,400
think I think it's all right. If not, my whole

940
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:43,480
thing just crashed out of nowhere. So yeah, I don't

941
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:44,079
know if I had.

942
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 2: Too much stuff, but I really don't know what what That's.

943
00:45:46,199 --> 00:45:48,840
Speaker 1: Never happened to me before. We're just a total just

944
00:45:49,559 --> 00:45:53,159
everything just shut off. So I think we're we're back

945
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:55,599
or you guys, you guys can hear me, Okay, I mean.

946
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:57,079
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can hear you.

947
00:45:57,119 --> 00:45:59,760
Speaker 4: We we we finished cal Baptist, Colorado. When we moved

948
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:04,199
on to Portland and Stanford. I think the general consensus

949
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:06,840
was between Rob and I. It's obviously a very tough

950
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:09,719
spot for Stanford coming off the crazy wins in the

951
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:11,039
MT last week.

952
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:14,280
Speaker 5: So you know, we shall see.

953
00:46:15,039 --> 00:46:17,320
Speaker 4: You know, it's it's a big number to lay after,

954
00:46:17,559 --> 00:46:20,840
you know, an incredible win against Saint Louis.

955
00:46:21,639 --> 00:46:23,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, I we can.

956
00:46:24,199 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 1: Did you guys do I'm sorry, Brian, did you give

957
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:27,639
your parlay legout yet?

958
00:46:27,679 --> 00:46:29,360
Speaker 4: I haven't, but I'm gonna do it right now as

959
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:31,159
a matter of fact, because we go ahead and do it.

960
00:46:31,159 --> 00:46:34,559
Speaker 5: The numbers moving and and I've struggled, guys. It's a

961
00:46:34,599 --> 00:46:37,599
limited slate. I was looking I'll be honest with you.

962
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:41,280
Speaker 4: I was looking at the McNee state incarnate word under

963
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:43,639
but that number has moved too much. I don't think

964
00:46:43,639 --> 00:46:45,559
we want to be you know, after the number moves

965
00:46:45,599 --> 00:46:48,079
what now five and a half points. I don't know

966
00:46:48,119 --> 00:46:50,480
if as Rob would say, you don't want to get

967
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:51,880
the ass end of the number.

968
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:54,559
Speaker 5: Now we are going to play a number that has moved.

969
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 4: It's a game we talked about earlier, but it hasn't

970
00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:58,840
moved enough to the point where I don't want to

971
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:01,679
take it. Let's take Temple play US thirteen we taught.

972
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:05,719
Trigg mentioned the reasons he doesn't like this Villanova team.

973
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:09,480
I broke down the matchup is Temple, you know, five

974
00:47:09,519 --> 00:47:13,920
straight ats losses here, I think there's some value. This

975
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:16,679
is a team again that was favored against Ucee San Diego,

976
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:18,679
a team that is still underfeed. I think we all

977
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:21,679
have a lot of respect for Ucee San Diego. I

978
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:24,760
know Temple's had their issues defensively. I think they can

979
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:27,320
clean that up a little bit. I think the Villanova

980
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:31,000
three point shooting that we saw in this meeting last year,

981
00:47:31,039 --> 00:47:32,840
that we saw against Sacred Heart older in the season,

982
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:36,400
I think there is some regression there, Rob reg of

983
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:39,000
the quotes, the coach quotes. I think Temple's going to

984
00:47:39,039 --> 00:47:41,320
come in with the game plan. I think they can

985
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,719
stay within a double digit spread here. So give me

986
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:48,280
the owls plus thirteen again, No, Duke Brennan for Villanova

987
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:53,840
Nation's leaguing rebounder as well. Temple is a good rebounding team.

988
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:56,119
Speaker 1: All right, Yeah, no, I agree with that, and I'll

989
00:47:56,119 --> 00:47:59,519
go I'll go to my parlay league here. I saw

990
00:47:59,639 --> 00:48:02,920
Keith buy you bets Landry brought this game up and

991
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:05,679
this so this is the game you were going to

992
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:08,960
talk about a second ago. Brian McNeese State, incurrenit word.

993
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:12,480
We have some conference play on December one. This is

994
00:48:12,519 --> 00:48:18,280
a Southland Conference game. I saw the line go nuts.

995
00:48:18,559 --> 00:48:22,119
I really don't understand why it was, you know, moving

996
00:48:22,119 --> 00:48:25,800
in the direction it is. I really like increneit word here.

997
00:48:26,159 --> 00:48:29,280
I think that they are a very undervalued sort of

998
00:48:29,519 --> 00:48:31,960
team at this in this league. I think if there's

999
00:48:32,079 --> 00:48:37,400
going to be a team that, uh, that presses McNeese

1000
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:40,760
State at the top of this conference, it is increnit word.

1001
00:48:41,079 --> 00:48:41,320
Speaker 2: Uh.

1002
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 1: They are a team that I've been talking about really

1003
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:45,719
since the beginning of the season. They brought in Todje Tovesky.

1004
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:50,079
They brought from Canisius and Cleveland State. Todje Toveski a

1005
00:48:50,079 --> 00:48:53,559
big reason that Brian powers Cleveland State Vikings. I know

1006
00:48:53,599 --> 00:48:55,400
he's not a fan of them, but they're in his backyard.

1007
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:57,719
Had such a good year last year. He goes down

1008
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:01,639
to increneit word and then you've got You've got Harold

1009
00:49:01,639 --> 00:49:04,360
Woods from Northeastern. Uh, he was a guy I liked that.

1010
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:07,119
Northeastern was surprised to see him down there. They were

1011
00:49:07,159 --> 00:49:09,960
able to keep Jordan Pike, who had a great CBI

1012
00:49:10,199 --> 00:49:12,440
last year. So like, for me, like this team has

1013
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:16,760
a ton of upside. McNeice was getting bet this morning,

1014
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:19,840
like like people were out and and I don't I've

1015
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:22,599
been really trying to confirm that over the last hour

1016
00:49:22,679 --> 00:49:27,159
or so. I don't see anything about increnet word missing

1017
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:29,719
players for this game. And it is it is a

1018
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:31,800
conference game, so it's not gonna be like just a

1019
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:34,639
game that they're not gonna you know that that that

1020
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:37,400
like they can just take off if you will.

1021
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:40,519
Speaker 2: So I think and I've.

1022
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:42,880
Speaker 1: Been seeing this a lot in college basketball these days,

1023
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:45,159
like where there's a lot of head bakes in the

1024
00:49:45,199 --> 00:49:48,119
market and there is a lot of setting up, and

1025
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:54,039
I think what happened here is uh, someone sharp that

1026
00:49:54,159 --> 00:49:58,239
McNee state knowing that everyone would piggyback their McNee state

1027
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:01,679
action because of course McNee state is a sort of

1028
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:03,400
a known commodity.

1029
00:50:03,599 --> 00:50:05,519
Speaker 2: It's a short slate McNeice.

1030
00:50:05,519 --> 00:50:07,800
Speaker 1: I believe they won every game in that tournament they

1031
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:11,079
played down in the Cayman Islands. So like their profile

1032
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:14,840
is is you know, will Wade inflated even though he's

1033
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:19,239
no longer there, This game is at incrent word like

1034
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:21,760
this is this line is out of control, and so

1035
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:23,559
I actually think I'm gonna throw this in on the

1036
00:50:23,599 --> 00:50:24,239
client card.

1037
00:50:24,559 --> 00:50:24,880
Speaker 2: Brian.

1038
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:27,400
Speaker 1: While I'm doing that, can you tell me what the

1039
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:29,360
is it still ten and a half? I think I'm

1040
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:30,679
seeing mostly ten and a half.

1041
00:50:31,159 --> 00:50:31,880
Speaker 3: Ten and a half.

1042
00:50:32,159 --> 00:50:34,360
Speaker 4: Ten and a half is the consensus line. Yes, there

1043
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:38,360
are some elevens that are beginning to show in the market.

1044
00:50:37,559 --> 00:50:41,119
Speaker 2: Though, Yeah, like eleven is crazy. There's no way it

1045
00:50:41,119 --> 00:50:42,159
can go higher than eleven.

1046
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:45,400
Speaker 1: This open seven and a half initial bump was to

1047
00:50:45,519 --> 00:50:47,360
nine and a half. I was ready to play back

1048
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:51,360
at nine and a half byou Betts is finishing my

1049
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:53,280
handicap in the chat, I know, but this is I

1050
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:55,119
almost want BYU Betts to get up here and just

1051
00:50:55,159 --> 00:50:58,239
talk about this game. He's a South Conference guy, he's

1052
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:01,519
a Southeast Louisiana guy, follows this conference as close as

1053
00:51:01,559 --> 00:51:04,599
anyone does. This game was sixty five sixty seven last

1054
00:51:04,639 --> 00:51:07,840
year at McNeese against Wade's team.

1055
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good point.

1056
00:51:09,119 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 1: Another point that I sort of already started is like

1057
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:15,639
Pike comes back, they return all of these players, and

1058
00:51:15,679 --> 00:51:18,320
then they get a guy like taj Taveski who there

1059
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:20,079
was a point in time I wrote an article about

1060
00:51:20,079 --> 00:51:21,800
this like two or three years ago where when he

1061
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:25,159
was going into his sophomore season at Canisius, I thought

1062
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:27,000
he could win MAC Player of the Year. Like I

1063
00:51:27,039 --> 00:51:28,679
literally thought he was going to be one of the

1064
00:51:28,679 --> 00:51:30,840
best three or four players in the MAC. And he

1065
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:33,559
got hurt two games into the season never played the

1066
00:51:33,599 --> 00:51:35,719
rest of the year. Last year, he ends up sort

1067
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:38,480
of flying under the radar. Really good at Cleveland State

1068
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:41,840
increnet word has a roster that's better than the rest

1069
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:44,440
of the Southland. The only team in the Southland that's

1070
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:48,079
better is McNee State. They're not eleven points better, especially

1071
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:50,519
with the game at increnet Words, so that will be.

1072
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:52,440
We'll take ten and a half of the parlay. If

1073
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:55,239
you can get eleven, that's great. But yeah, that's what

1074
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:56,480
my parlay league's gonna be.

1075
00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:57,760
Speaker 3: All right.

1076
00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:00,320
Speaker 5: I want to recap the parlay now here, trig.

1077
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:02,559
Speaker 1: No, I actually want you guys to talk about a

1078
00:52:02,599 --> 00:52:03,920
different game while I catch up.

1079
00:52:04,039 --> 00:52:09,199
Speaker 2: So yeah, throw throw Brian throwing out there that we.

1080
00:52:09,159 --> 00:52:10,599
Speaker 1: Haven't talked about yet, because I don't even know what

1081
00:52:10,639 --> 00:52:12,400
we've talked about. It was I was locked off for

1082
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:12,920
ten minutes.

1083
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:13,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, I remember it was.

1084
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:17,159
Speaker 4: You know what, they're one of the there's two games

1085
00:52:17,159 --> 00:52:19,079
that I think we can mention we can hit on.

1086
00:52:19,199 --> 00:52:23,559
I want to do Tarletan State Cincinnati or Saint Francis Xavior.

1087
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:28,199
Cincinnati plays coming up, so it's arguably a look ahead

1088
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:29,719
spot for both teams.

1089
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:32,320
Speaker 5: You want to do Tarletan State here, I can. I

1090
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:33,320
can hit that, So.

1091
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:35,239
Speaker 1: Hold on, yeah, kick that one off. I got some

1092
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:36,079
thoughts there as well.

1093
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:38,519
Speaker 5: Okay, let me just know that, all right?

1094
00:52:39,079 --> 00:52:44,679
Speaker 4: Uh, tarlet And State and Cincinnati guys. Cincinnati, Uh, trick,

1095
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:48,800
I believe you mentioned this last week's show. A horrific

1096
00:52:49,679 --> 00:52:54,519
loss sixty four to fifty six. Last week, Bearcats were

1097
00:52:54,519 --> 00:52:56,639
twenty four and a half point home favorites in that

1098
00:52:56,679 --> 00:53:01,760
game never led. That's a very bad result for a

1099
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:04,320
proud program. And that's now four straight games where the

1100
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:07,079
Bearcats have failed to cover the number guys, two outright

1101
00:53:07,119 --> 00:53:09,880
losses in that stretch, the other one against Louisville obviously

1102
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:14,800
far more excusable. One might think smash spot here for Cincy,

1103
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:17,039
but as I just noted, they got Zavyar on deck.

1104
00:53:17,039 --> 00:53:19,079
Speaker 5: That's always a big rivalry game. You guys know that.

1105
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:21,880
Speaker 4: Plus the Bearcat's dealing with two key injuries, Boba Miller

1106
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:27,079
and Jalen Celestin. Celestin the result of these injuries has

1107
00:53:27,119 --> 00:53:30,800
been a slower pace and predictably worse offense. Now, I

1108
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:32,920
don't exactly want to run to the window to bet

1109
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:35,119
tarlet and State either, Treg. I know that you have

1110
00:53:35,159 --> 00:53:38,119
that very nice gear on right here.

1111
00:53:38,199 --> 00:53:38,679
Speaker 5: I know that you.

1112
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:42,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, but this is a Tarletan team that was actually

1113
00:53:42,599 --> 00:53:46,360
trailing D two Midwestern State by eleven at the half

1114
00:53:46,639 --> 00:53:47,239
on Friday.

1115
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:48,519
Speaker 5: So both teams are coming off.

1116
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:51,920
Speaker 4: They did come back unlike Cincinnati, so these are two

1117
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:55,760
teams not exactly off their finest hour. Tarlan, also, I

1118
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:57,920
believe Trey correct me for wrong. They're without two of

1119
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:00,840
their top three scores as well. So, guys, if you're

1120
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:03,480
looking about this game, let's monitor the injury news. Maybe

1121
00:54:03,599 --> 00:54:06,440
Robert Trigg has some more insight there looking at the

1122
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:09,320
odd screen. We've seen his total get bent up. If

1123
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:12,679
these injuries are if these guys are still out, I

1124
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:14,719
would lean I'd punch back at the market here maybe

1125
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:15,440
and consider.

1126
00:54:15,159 --> 00:54:15,800
Speaker 3: It under.

1127
00:54:17,599 --> 00:54:20,599
Speaker 1: That that probably makes the most sense, and I'll leave

1128
00:54:20,639 --> 00:54:23,159
the total for rob All. I'm gonna say, yes, I did.

1129
00:54:23,599 --> 00:54:26,320
I did throw the Tarleton shirt on today. I wanted

1130
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:28,760
to support the guys. I have some friends down there.

1131
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:31,480
I love it Stevenville, Texas. Hope to get back down

1132
00:54:31,519 --> 00:54:32,679
there this year.

1133
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:34,800
Speaker 2: I do think. Yeah.

1134
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:37,800
Speaker 1: So Dior Johnson didn't play in the in Tarleton's most

1135
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:40,440
recent game, there was another one of their top players.

1136
00:54:41,199 --> 00:54:42,159
Speaker 2: Maybe it was McDowell.

1137
00:54:42,199 --> 00:54:42,679
Speaker 3: I don't.

1138
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:44,800
Speaker 1: I don't have it off hand. But the point is,

1139
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:49,000
like I think that's probably priced in already. I don't

1140
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:50,880
know how it is, because like I don't know how

1141
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:53,639
like they would, you know, like assume that those guys

1142
00:54:53,639 --> 00:54:56,280
are out. But this number tells me that the assumption

1143
00:54:56,519 --> 00:54:59,480
is that Tarleton's gonna be a little shorthanded here, I

1144
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:01,039
would have like full strength.

1145
00:55:01,039 --> 00:55:02,239
Speaker 2: I make this probably.

1146
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 1: Closer to like thirteen, so eighteen, like there's I to me,

1147
00:55:06,119 --> 00:55:10,559
there's no there's no value there in laying it with Cincy,

1148
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:13,840
Like I think that that's what the number should be,

1149
00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:18,079
assuming Deor is not gonna play or whoever whoever else

1150
00:55:18,159 --> 00:55:21,840
is out. Yeah, Eastern Michigan to go in there and

1151
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:23,719
and just win that game the way they did. I mean,

1152
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:26,840
I mean that's Eastern Michigan is still like a work

1153
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:29,039
in progress. Like I think that's is that still stand

1154
00:55:29,119 --> 00:55:32,440
heath there. Maybe he's got a couple of guys and

1155
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:35,159
like he you know, I noted a couple of weeks

1156
00:55:35,199 --> 00:55:37,320
ago when we talked about Eastern Michigan that the roster

1157
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:41,239
has some intriguing pieces, but man to just get like

1158
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:44,840
wired a wire beat in your home building by that team,

1159
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:48,360
and Cincinnati's got another couple. There was another game where

1160
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:52,280
they weren't particularly impressive. I mean, that's really what I've got.

1161
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:54,960
I don't think I could. I got nothing to to

1162
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:56,880
really push you one way or the other. I would

1163
00:55:56,920 --> 00:56:01,280
just say, like if you're taking since thinking that, oh

1164
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:04,360
Tarlton's missing a couple of guys like, to me, that's already.

1165
00:56:04,039 --> 00:56:05,920
Speaker 2: Reflected in the line, So I don't think that should

1166
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:09,159
be your reasoning. Yeah, that's right.

1167
00:56:11,079 --> 00:56:14,199
Speaker 3: I would think Adam that just from a you know,

1168
00:56:15,039 --> 00:56:22,480
components of handicap standpoint, you've had since Wednesday to stew

1169
00:56:22,559 --> 00:56:25,960
over that Eastern Michigan loss, especially if you're the head coach.

1170
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:29,079
Speaker 1: I think they played after that. I think they had

1171
00:56:29,159 --> 00:56:29,880
one after that.

1172
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:33,320
Speaker 5: Cincinnati. No, I don't think they did.

1173
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:33,599
Speaker 4: Oh.

1174
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:35,679
Speaker 1: I thought they played n j I T or was

1175
00:56:35,679 --> 00:56:42,159
that before? That was before disregard so he had like

1176
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:42,920
five days.

1177
00:56:43,119 --> 00:56:46,760
Speaker 3: And the common thought process here, at least for me,

1178
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:50,960
would be your home you're off a horrendous home loss.

1179
00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:55,840
You're coming out from the opening tip on fire. First

1180
00:56:55,880 --> 00:57:00,679
half numbers Cincinnati ten and a half. However, in college basketball,

1181
00:57:00,679 --> 00:57:02,159
I think what we've learned, I don't know that this

1182
00:57:02,199 --> 00:57:06,599
has changed, guys over, I don't know. I've been doing

1183
00:57:06,639 --> 00:57:09,679
this as a profession since nineteen ninety two, so thirty

1184
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:12,880
three years. I don't think this has changed. In college basketball,

1185
00:57:13,119 --> 00:57:19,039
guards dictate everything, and when you have guard injuries and

1186
00:57:19,079 --> 00:57:22,559
you have the coach telling you that their guard rotations

1187
00:57:22,599 --> 00:57:27,840
are significantly affected by the injuries, and to say I'm

1188
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:30,639
very disappointed. Adversity struck not the way we wanted it to.

1189
00:57:30,719 --> 00:57:32,039
But now we have to try and handle it the

1190
00:57:32,119 --> 00:57:34,119
right way. That means we can't accept that. We have

1191
00:57:34,159 --> 00:57:36,920
to learn from it become a better team because of it.

1192
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:39,039
That'll be our approach moving forward. It's all well and

1193
00:57:39,119 --> 00:57:43,000
good to say all of that, but guard rotations that

1194
00:57:43,039 --> 00:57:45,920
are disjointed affect everything on a college basketball team. I

1195
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:48,679
mean again, I don't think that's changed in thirty three years.

1196
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:51,400
You can have a couple of bigs out, it's just

1197
00:57:51,599 --> 00:57:55,360
not as important as having your guard rotations messed up.

1198
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:58,679
For that reason, I can't live by the theory that

1199
00:57:58,719 --> 00:58:01,199
Cincinnati should come out on iron cover this thing. But

1200
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:03,719
you know they're laid ten and a half first half.

1201
00:58:04,119 --> 00:58:06,760
Is a banged up team, but a fairly decent team.

1202
00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:08,920
I'm just not sure there's the right way to play this.

1203
00:58:09,079 --> 00:58:13,960
You know, I can understand the situational I can't understand

1204
00:58:14,079 --> 00:58:16,480
laying these types of points with Cincinnati. A team that

1205
00:58:16,559 --> 00:58:18,639
can't score, can't lay eighteen and a half, right, guys,

1206
00:58:18,679 --> 00:58:20,519
how do you do that? It just makes no sense.

1207
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:23,159
Speaker 4: And Cincinnati's always awful of free throw shooting. I don't

1208
00:58:23,159 --> 00:58:25,840
have their percentage in front of me right now, you're

1209
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:27,960
to date. But I feel that I've bet on since

1210
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:30,440
the anytime I bet on Cincinnati. Feel I've been let

1211
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:31,280
down by bad.

1212
00:58:31,039 --> 00:58:33,480
Speaker 5: Free throw shooting once or twice and a couple of

1213
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:35,519
twenty years. Yeah, yeah, I know.

1214
00:58:35,559 --> 00:58:37,079
Speaker 4: I feel it's never That's what I'm saying. Like, I

1215
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:40,199
can't remember if he asked me to pinpoint what years

1216
00:58:40,199 --> 00:58:41,000
some of those games were.

1217
00:58:41,039 --> 00:58:43,280
Speaker 5: I don't know. It kind of runs together this point,

1218
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:45,760
but no, Cincinnati's not a good free throw shooting team.

1219
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:47,880
Speaker 4: And how arrogant is this j Buff by the way

1220
00:58:48,079 --> 00:58:50,000
coming in at the end of the program, just to

1221
00:58:50,079 --> 00:58:51,679
hype the New York Football Giant.

1222
00:58:53,719 --> 00:58:57,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it's a basketball show leading them out of

1223
00:58:57,679 --> 00:58:58,039
the tunnel.

1224
00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:01,000
Speaker 2: What I'd rather talk about that would be aggressive.

1225
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:05,000
Speaker 1: Let's let's get one warrant, Let's get one morning at

1226
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:08,360
the gun. Some people asked about UAB Middle Tennessee State.

1227
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:12,159
All I have to say about this is I did

1228
00:59:12,599 --> 00:59:14,559
I see it's moving, and I kind of agree with

1229
00:59:14,599 --> 00:59:16,880
the move I thought when it got up to it

1230
00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:18,599
got up to three and a half at one point

1231
00:59:18,599 --> 00:59:20,440
this morning, U A B minus three and a half.

1232
00:59:21,039 --> 00:59:22,960
I thought that was a little high. That being said,

1233
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:25,480
I didn't I didn't show enough of an edge to

1234
00:59:25,559 --> 00:59:27,000
play Middle Tennessee State.

1235
00:59:27,039 --> 00:59:28,840
Speaker 2: But that is the way I would have leaned at

1236
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:29,480
that number.

1237
00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:32,159
Speaker 1: Now that it's two and a half and two, I

1238
00:59:32,159 --> 00:59:35,840
don't really have anything like I don't really have anything

1239
00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:38,079
like pertinent here, but like a bunch of people asked

1240
00:59:39,079 --> 00:59:40,360
and uh, oh, we got it.

1241
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:41,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's right.

1242
00:59:42,039 --> 00:59:45,960
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna pivot here because that there was a

1243
00:59:46,039 --> 00:59:50,519
request for West Georgia Troy, and because my whole system

1244
00:59:50,639 --> 00:59:54,639
was crashing, I missed it. So we're gonna go to

1245
00:59:54,679 --> 01:00:00,320
that game West Georgia Troy. For Garth, my number was

1246
01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:02,599
quite a bit off of this one. I actually show

1247
01:00:02,639 --> 01:00:05,480
a good amount of value here on West Georgia. Plus

1248
01:00:05,519 --> 01:00:11,320
the points that being said, I don't think West Georgia's

1249
01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:15,440
roster is like great and and this is would be

1250
01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:18,800
play playing Troy, would be playing up for them. Scott Cross,

1251
01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:21,280
I do think has a very good team. He's played

1252
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:23,559
a lot of very challenging games to this point, Like

1253
01:00:23,599 --> 01:00:26,119
look at what Troy has done in the non conference.

1254
01:00:26,119 --> 01:00:28,719
They went and played those games against San Diego State,

1255
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:32,599
beat them, USC took them to triple overtime tournament. I

1256
01:00:32,599 --> 01:00:35,840
think they played Toledo. That's a game that I thought

1257
01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:39,280
they would have fared veteran. So it's like, on one hand,

1258
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:43,280
my number's way off and my numbers suggest West Georgia

1259
01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:46,199
is to play. On the other hand, you know, does

1260
01:00:46,239 --> 01:00:48,440
Toledo sort of like or just does Troy kind of

1261
01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:51,360
get right by like really playing an inferior opponent that

1262
01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:53,880
has far and away inferior talent.

1263
01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:57,039
Speaker 2: So I guess I'll throw it to you guys. Anything

1264
01:00:57,119 --> 01:00:58,239
Troy or West Georgia.

1265
01:00:58,599 --> 01:01:00,840
Speaker 5: I got nothing on this one.

1266
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:02,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, it looks like we're pressed for time too.

1267
01:01:03,559 --> 01:01:04,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know.

1268
01:01:04,199 --> 01:01:07,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, this was a sloppy return from feast week. Partially

1269
01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:10,119
my fault. My whole thing crashed. I will have that

1270
01:01:10,159 --> 01:01:14,960
figured out. I will have that figured out by by tomorrow.

1271
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:17,920
So I apologize that my system crash and blew up

1272
01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:21,280
the show. Dan h Wins says West Georgia five, and

1273
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:24,320
oh ats run since opener lost to Nebraska, it is

1274
01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:26,960
a lot of points. Here's here's all I'll leave it with.

1275
01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:30,239
West Georgia. Is that that team they're they're new to

1276
01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:32,920
Division one. I think this is their second year in

1277
01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:36,280
Division one. They're in the the A Sun Conference. I

1278
01:01:36,719 --> 01:01:38,719
still think it's a roster with a lot of D

1279
01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:43,519
two talent. Okay, so proceed at your own sort of

1280
01:01:44,119 --> 01:01:46,800
like risk if you will. Like this reminds me of

1281
01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:49,400
the le Moyne team that went D two to D

1282
01:01:49,519 --> 01:01:51,440
one a couple of years ago. I watched I got

1283
01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:54,519
to watch a bunch of their games, and that team.

1284
01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:56,800
Every once in a while they would punch up and

1285
01:01:56,840 --> 01:01:59,360
cover a number, and then they'd show up to a

1286
01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:02,320
game and get lasted by thirty five points. I kind

1287
01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:05,159
of feel like that's what West Georgia is. So by numbers,

1288
01:02:05,159 --> 01:02:08,280
if you just trust my numbers being right, Wes George

1289
01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:10,360
is to play. I show a pretty big discrepancy with

1290
01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:12,519
where the my number is and where the market is

1291
01:02:12,519 --> 01:02:15,280
on this game. But I personally don't know if I

1292
01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:17,960
want to poke the bear when Troy sort of stepping

1293
01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:23,159
back down in class. Okay, all right, we've made it

1294
01:02:23,159 --> 01:02:25,559
to the end of the show. I will recap the parley.

1295
01:02:25,599 --> 01:02:28,719
I will recap listen, Brian Power teased it. The parlay

1296
01:02:28,719 --> 01:02:31,079
has we came out on fire hit three to the

1297
01:02:31,119 --> 01:02:33,519
first week. We've now gone three weeks without hitting one,

1298
01:02:33,639 --> 01:02:36,119
We've hit a bunch of two of three. Even with

1299
01:02:36,199 --> 01:02:40,760
all the dust settling, we are still up point two

1300
01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:44,519
point zero two to unit. So we are essentially after

1301
01:02:44,599 --> 01:02:46,719
all that and all those losses the past couple.

1302
01:02:46,519 --> 01:02:48,199
Speaker 2: Of weeks, we're putting on the year.

1303
01:02:49,039 --> 01:02:51,840
Speaker 1: We're still even on the year with the parlays, and

1304
01:02:52,679 --> 01:02:54,719
we're going to try to start a new run. Today

1305
01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:57,320
is the is the start of a new run for

1306
01:02:57,400 --> 01:03:00,159
the parlay, hopefully for all of us as well. The

1307
01:03:00,199 --> 01:03:04,400
three teamer tonight, Rob Veno is going with k State

1308
01:03:04,559 --> 01:03:08,679
over eighty five and a half. Brian Powers says, Temple

1309
01:03:09,239 --> 01:03:13,840
plus thirteen was it yep? And then I will use

1310
01:03:13,920 --> 01:03:17,079
increnit word listen. I gave Increnitate word out plus eleven

1311
01:03:17,119 --> 01:03:20,360
as a client play. The eleven's are definitely out there,

1312
01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:23,440
there's plenty of them, but for the parlay, you know,

1313
01:03:23,599 --> 01:03:25,440
I'll make it eleven for the parlay, and I'll just

1314
01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:28,639
attach some juice to that as well, because I do

1315
01:03:28,719 --> 01:03:32,000
think eleven is pretty widely available at this point. And

1316
01:03:32,039 --> 01:03:35,239
then I've put juice on Rob's leg of the parlor

1317
01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:35,559
as well.

1318
01:03:35,559 --> 01:03:36,559
Speaker 2: So you have a three teamer.

1319
01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:40,559
Speaker 1: We're gonna call it plus five forty odds. Basically, that's

1320
01:03:40,599 --> 01:03:44,280
got two minus one twenties in there, Kansas State team

1321
01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:49,519
total over eighty five and a half. Increnate word plus eleven,

1322
01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:54,320
and then Brian Powers going with temple plus thirteen. BIU,

1323
01:03:54,320 --> 01:03:56,800
Betsy is increnate word out right tonight. That would be awesome.

1324
01:03:57,000 --> 01:04:00,159
I would love to see that. That's the end of

1325
01:04:00,159 --> 01:04:03,880
your show for today. We apologize for some technical difficulties.

1326
01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:04,480
Speaker 2: Really I do.

1327
01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:07,119
Speaker 1: Brian and Rob didn't do anything wrong. That was my

1328
01:04:07,199 --> 01:04:10,400
system that blew up. But we'll have that figured out tomorrow.

1329
01:04:10,639 --> 01:04:13,079
We'll be back tomorrow at ten am. Check out the

1330
01:04:13,159 --> 01:04:16,840
Cyber Monday specials on the wager Talk site and we'll

1331
01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:17,840
see you guys in the morning.

1332
01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:18,639
Speaker 2: Thanks for tuning in.