Speaker 1: The monsters living on the edge. They creep where the fens, this.
Speaker 2: Fall, where the moonlight paints the wall, hiding.
Speaker 3: Where the trees grow tall.
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on the forest, breeze on the they where they breathe.
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Speaker 2: Band on the lever about the morn where the doors
they broke sweet and the lake where.
Speaker 1: The reeds the cakes.
Speaker 2: They're watching you as you walk away. Runs still where
the dark beings wear a winness.
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Speaker 3: Why am I over there? There we go? Good morning, monsters,
and welcome to this week's episode of Monsters on the
Edge here on the Untold Radio Network. I am, of course,
your host, Barnaby Jones from Cryptid's Anomalies and the Paranormal Society,
here with you today, live in studio. Ladies and gentlemen,
we don't have a guest today. I have a special
show for you, and I'm really glad that all you
guys are here today to share this with me. Today.
Lee says, it is star Wars day, May the Fourth
be with you. That's right. I must confess I am
a nerd, I am a geek as well, but I
am not a Star Wars fan. I have always been
a Star Trek fan. So you know, Jean Luke Bigard
and William Riker and the like of that next generation
is always my my jam never really got into Star Wars.
I've seen most of the movies, the the generic, you know,
like I think I've seen like one through six episodes one,
two and three, and then the originals, you know, Star Wars,
Return of the Jedi and you know those three. But
not a Star Wars fan for you guys. But for
those of you who celebrate May the Fourth be with you.
There you go. Awesome guys, Thank you all for joining
us here today. Let's start off here. We just came
off of a big three day weekend for the Caps
team down in Delavan, Wisconsin at the Contact Modalities Expo.
Is a great weekend, amazing speakers, all kinds of stuff,
full day of activities. Hopefully you guys can go check
it out next year. They are already planning twenty twenty seven,
but coming up this weekend. Finally, it is here. It
is the Cryptids, Anomalies and Paranormal Convention Saturday, May ninth
in Fondlac, Wisconsin. We have a huge lineup for you
with over twenty speakers and workshops including Ken Gerhard, Chris Fleming,
Bob Anderson from Bob after Dark podcast. We'll be talking
about the Mothman. Lee Hample from the Beast of Bray
Road Notoriety. We'll be talking about his mysterious Hayfield. Terry
Cullen will be talking about his first hand account of
the Minnesota Iceman and that it actually it was a creature,
a living creature at one time, and not just the
hoax that everyone thinks it was. We have a bunch
of paranormal speakers as well. Sylvia will be there. She
will be talking about haunted vacation spots that you can
go to all kinds of different haunted amusement parks, zoos
and museums. Christopher Duncan, who has appeared on Expedition Bigfoot
as both a remote viewer as well as sharing some
stuff on his work with detecting the exact EMF frequencies
of different animals with government technology and stuff, so he
will be there doing not just presentation but also workshops
for those who want to learn remote viewing. So it's
going to be a great weekend. We also have a
UFO panel and I'm forgetting stuff. Like I said, there's
over twenty speakers and workshops. We have a casting workshop
by Dan Adrello, a UFOC five panel, Laurence Smith and
Jeff Finnipp will be doing kids programs for you guys
as well. So there we go and then we kick
it off. Kelly again cannot make it, so she won't
be joining us this year, but myself Chris McCurry from
the Caps team will be joined by Lauren Smith from
Night Callers Radio. We are doing eight kids Bigfoot Daylight Hike.
It will be a one hour hike. We will be
going into the woods. Chris will be telling your kids
all about how to say safe out in the woods.
I'll be talking about the local sightings lore and the
area that we're going to be looking around in and
Lauren will be covering just the general basic knowledge and
what to look for when you're out bigfooting. So it's
going to be a great event. Tickets for that are
still available. Friday night, we are doing a night Bigfoot
expedition as well. Chris, myself and Lauren will then be
joined by Jay but Chochin from Finding Jay. His show
has been on Paraflex and Amazon and all kinds of places.
He is on episode three of the Finding Jay series,
all about his research into southern Wisconsin Bigfoot activity and
not just finding Bigfoot, but finding himself. We will be
joined by Ken Gerhard I mean that name needs no explanation,
Larry Eisler, famous from Paraflex and a lot of other
paranormal research and investigating, and Christina Bloom who is a
psychic medium and channeler, so she will be joining us
to go out and actually try and channel the Bigfoot.
So it's gonna be a great night as well. Tickets
for that there are limited still available for that, but
they're still available. That is this coming Friday night, May eighth,
followed by the convention May night. There you go. That's
my big final promotion of that. Then guys, we head
down to Chicago for the Paranormal Chicago Convention Saturday, June thirteenth.
In Countryside, Illinois, I'll be at the Brownsville Public Library Wednesday,
June seventeenth, talking about Bigfoot and Cedarberg Public Library again
talking about Bigfoot July twenty second and potographs Packerland Paranormal
Conference That is a mouthful September twenty sixth, Green Bay, Wisconsin.
All kinds of cool people there. Scottie Rouric, Dustin Perry,
Jeff Finnip will be joining us as well. Awesome awesome
event Ryo Community Library October twenty eighth, and the Belleville
Public Library talking about UFOs and disclosure in one of
the three UFO capitals of Wisconsin on October thirtieth, just
before Halloween. So there we go, guys. So today it's
just me. It is just me. I have been talking
for a while about how I wanted to you know,
there's a lot of episodes that we have done. So
I have been doing podcasting since two thousand and nineteen
when I first actually about twenty twenty, I think when
we first started the Cryptids, Anomalies and Paranormal Society. We
started releasing our own research on you know YouTube, of
all the documentaries of all the stuff that we did
for you know, what we researched out in the woods,
and we wanted to share this with people, but we
didn't you know, fraybas done research and gone out of investigations.
There's so much more than you could put into a
one hour documentary or one hour episode. So we started
doing like these podcasts called Whispers from the Dark. At first,
it didn't even have a name, it was just the
Caps podcast, and then he evolved into Whispers from the Dark.
And we started doing like on on site investigating, you know,
like while we're sitting there waiting for stuff to happen,
we would talk about this is what we're doing, this
is why we're doing it, and stuff. And we would
go around to all these conventions and we would get
all the speakers at the conventions to come on over
and sit down at the booth with us and share
their research, share their stories, and we would share this
on Whispers from the Dark. And we would also get
the average person that walked past the booth that had
a sighting or an experience and they would come over
and they would share it with us, and we had
it all setprated our booth at these conventions, and so
we had we had fifty six episodes of Whispers from
the Dark. And I eventually moved on from just Whispers
from the Dark, and I started working on the WLTK
dB talk radio and this was with Todd's Network, and
I did forty one episodes over there of Monday Morning Monsters,
So every Monday, same as this, I would talk all
things cryptozoology, cryptids and more. And one of my guests
towards the end of those forty one episodes was none
other than Doug high Check. And Doug Hicheck said, hey,
you know, I love your style of what you're doing
on the show here. You're really good and I would
love to have you come on this network. And that's
how I got here. So it has been one hundred
and fifty five episode. This is one fifty six of
Monsters on the Edge here on the Untold Radio network.
And throughout all of those it has been an amazing
ride here and talking about all these things that you know,
go bump in the night from paranormal and stuff. And
about after a year of doing Monday Morning Monsters, Well,
when I first came to this network, I said, well,
can I do cryptids and paranormal? And Doug said, well,
paranormal doesn't do real well on our network, so we're
gonna focus on the Bigfoot stuff and the cryptids and
that's what we did. So for the first year, I
just did all cryptid stuff on Monsters on the Edge here,
and eventually he started putting out these promos that talked
about UFOs and ghosts and stuff, and I said, who's
really talking about that on our network? There's not really
a dedicated show for that. And I said, so can
I do my own paranormal show? And Doug said, sure, absolutely,
you know we're we're gonna go ahead and do that now.
So that's where the Paranormal Spectrum came on. So every
Thursday for the last two years, I have been doing
both Monday Morning Monsters and the Paranormal Spectrum and we
are up to fifty fifty three episodes of Paranormal Spectrum,
so three years here on the Untold Radio network, and
it has been amazing guests throughout that time. I have
had a lot of interesting conversations, a lot of interesting people,
a lot of memorable encounters. And it always surprises me
looking at the views of some of these episodes that
you know, people say, you know, we're we're a Bigfoot researcher,
and here we have certain episodes that I think are
like essential viewing of my show if you're a fan
or if you consider yourself a researcher, and they don't
rank as high in the viewership as when I think
they should. Not, not because you know, I'm biased, but
because like, if you want to know you know, how
to track, how to properly you know, make a cast,
how to properly document evidence and stuff, how to you know,
other biological research and stuff. These these things are stuff
that you know, I was interested in and I wanted
to talk to guess that I was super excited to
have on my show, and they didn't necessarily rank as
high as some of the other episodes. So today I
have put together a whole uh spreadsheet over here of
some interesting factoids, some interesting episodes that you guys maybe
want to go back and rewatch. You know, not because
I want the viewership, but because I care about this topic,
and I care about the research and stuff that people
are doing out there, and it's great to have conversations about.
You know, I saw this, I had this sighting and
did all these things. But at the end of the day,
you know, maybe maybe there are researchers. I know there
are researchers who listen to this show. I know there
are people who go out and do investigations, whether it's
you know, just casual or more serious. And so I
want to go through a couple of these episodes for
you guys. And I was gonna, I'm a little late
starting today because I was gonna try and give you
like clips of some of these episodes and stuff. And
and here's the thing. I just got off a three
day weekend at like I said, Contact Modalities Expo, and
I'm heading into the biggest event that my team does
every year, which is CAPCN this Saturday. So I have
a ton of stuff on my plate right now. So
I just kind of have, you know, a list for you.
But what I would like to know is everyone that
is listening in the comments section, tell me your favorite episode,
who has been your favorite guest on Monsters on the Edge.
I'm interested to see what you guys think, who your
favorite guests have been so far, and you know who
you you wish that we would have gotten on. So
I want to start out here. We have We're going
to get to the most viewed episodes, and I think
this is very interesting as well. We're going to talk
about some other cryptid episodes that you might want to
check out that aren't Bigfoot related. Some historic cases stuff
like that, some immemorialms, some great guests that we've had
on and inspirational international and some great evidence, So something
for I everyone. So here we go. So let's start
off with we'll start with the start with the sad
stuff first. I mean, there have been I want to
preface this because, like I said, there's been one hundred
and fifty six episodes. There have been so many great guests,
and I don't want anyone that's been on the show
to feel like I'm leaving you out because I you know,
I can't talk about all one hundred and fifty six
episodes here today. So I kind of made it into
some categories of you know, if you're interested in this,
this is what you should go back and listen to
kind of thing. So take that with a green of sealth.
I don't mean to exclude anyone, and everyone is valuable
in their own way, and I, like I said, I've
really appreciated everyone that's been on here. Lee Warner says
she really likes Carter Bauchard's episodes. I agree, Carter was
an amazing guest. He has been on this show twice,
and he was on the Paranormal Spectrum once, I believe,
so he's been on quite a few times. He has
some amazing books, Great Guy and Squatch America as well, Yes,
Squatch American, Squatch America. Great guests as well. The late
Scott Violet and Hannah Violet were on the show, and
that's where I kind of want to start here. So
we have had some amazing guests and unfortunately some of
them aren't with us anymore, and Scott Violet is one
of those guests. So if you guys would like to
go back and check out the episodes with Scott, Scott
was on episode twenty seven and ninety nine, so he
was on here twice. I thought he was on here
a third time. I think I'm just thinking of the
Hannah episode because I know Hannah was on, so there
also is another episode with just Hannah, I think from
Squatch America. But episode twenty seven and episode ninety nine,
Scott was on here, amazing researcher. I got to spend
quite a bit of time with him when we had
him up last year for the convention here for Capcom
last year, and unfortunately he passed away shortly after that,
So very very upsetting about that, you know, I that's
very unfortunate. I don't have a lot of words for that.
And I'm trying to get through these at the beginning
so that we can move on to happier, lighter thoughts
towards the end here. But yeah, Scott is no longer
with us. Another one in memorial episode number twenty six.
Tom Cantrell, super amazing guy, such interesting stories, such wonderful
a guest on here for a lifelonge, a lifetime of
Bigfoot research. He was a great guest, came on here
and talked about how he believed Bigfoot healed him and
just made such an influence on his life. So I
sincerely appreciate Tom's time on the show as well. And
if somebody did pass away that I'm missing, I apologize
for that. I try and keep up on all this stuff,
but I think these are the only ones. So and
then we did a tribute to Craig Sulk. Craig Selk
was very influential in my Bigfoot research. I didn't have
him on as a guest, but we did talk about
his research here. The legacy of the Heightened Adventure in
Upper Michigan and his work up there in Menominee, And
that was episode one two where we talked about Craig
and you do get to hear him on the episode,
so some of his stuff that he talked about as well.
And of course my friend as well, she Tan Noir,
was on the show three times here on Monsters on
the Edge, and she was on number two. She was
my second ever guest here two sixty four and one four.
She talked about the dogmand phenomenon and cryptid creatures of
the Great Lakes. So some awesome, awesome stuff. Yeah, Lee
Warner says episode twenty six, need to rewatch Tom Cantrell's episode.
I thought he was on here twice, but I think
they maybe he was on the paranormal spectrum. So these
episodes that we're talking about are just paranormal are sorry,
just Monsters on the Edge episodes. So some of these
guests that I'm thinking I've had on multiple times may
have been over there as well. But one hundred and
fifty six episodes, it's hard to keep track. So there
you go, Flat rock Wood Booger, Yes, yes, yes, yes,
So with the in memoriam section done, one of the
most evidential episodes that we had was with flat Rock,
one of the people that watches the show listens frequently here.
He was a great guest on here, brought a ton
of evidence and it's always great to go back and
take a look at some of the footage and the
audio clips and video stuff and that we've had on here.
Amazing stuff. That is episode one nine, So if you're
looking for that, flat Rock had these creatures in his backyard,
the Bigfoot, and he talks all about that and shares
a lot of evidence. One of my favorite audio clips
was on that episode with the Bigfoot mimica a train
and I always reference that. I love that, So thank
you for coming on if you're listening, to come on
and share that with us. So what else. I had
a great episode here a little bit while back, and
I thought it was very inspirational. And this was the
number one forty seven. Daniel Lee Barnett and Ryan Golumbski
came on to talk about My Bigfoot Life, which was
Daniel Barnett's Bigfoot documentary over in the UK. And Daniel
is like autistic and add and stuff and has a
lot of not disabilities, but a lot of you know,
that kind of stuff and going to speak at these
conventions and being invited to talk at these and the
documentary was really cool. I sat down and I watched
it before the episode. Definitely an awesome documentary if you're
interested in It's not just Bigfoot. It talks about him,
his family, daniel Lee Barnett family and all about that.
And it does have some really cool Bigfoot stuff at
the end as well, where they go out in California
and go looking for Bigfoot and Sasquatch and stuff. So
it does have Sasquatch, It has an emotional aspect. It
has some awesome guest stars in it, some people that
you definitely would know and recognize, So you guys definitely
want to go check that one out. So moving right
along here, I try to reach out to different researchers
around the world, and not just here in the United States,
but people who are doing the work in the field,
researching and doing all kinds of stuff important to cryptozoology.
And we've had some great people on there and some
of these people I want to start out with my
episode one oh one and one oh two the Indian
Chupacabra with Djo Thomas. This was a longer episode. We
had to film it in three parts because of the
Internet and stuff over in his country and just you know,
data issues and stuff. But it was a really good
two part episode talking about his research over there with
the Nila gricadoit uh and the Indian chupicabra, the Retica
attica and uh. If you're interested in, like, you know,
more foreign stuff in that. This was a really good episode.
And another one I'd like to point out that necessarily
isn't a research boots on the ground so much. But
the episode one seventeen Unexplained Creatures of Mexico with Robert Biddo.
Robert was an amazing guest. I've had him on this
show as well as The Paranormal Spectrum, and he talks
all about different creatures, legends and lore of Mexico. And
like I said, I'm fascinated with with all the different
folklore and mythology from around the United States, from around
the world and stuff. And whenever we can get a
guest on here that you know, isn't the typical you know,
United States, it's always interesting because it's not just cultural
and you know, cryptid related and stuff, but you also
get a glimpse into what's going on over there, and
you know, how their research differs and some of the
stuff that's going on over there, and how they approach
these different things. And it helps bring us all together
as well, because it shows that we're not we're not
as different, you know, with with our research and stuff,
and that people are doing this all over the world.
And I know a lot of people know that, but
I just like to put that out there. For another
one of our international guests was Dali Sandra Putra and
this is episode one forty three, and he came on
and talked about the Iran Pendeck. I was super excited
to have him on. And this is an episode that
did not do so well. It was below average for
our YouTube viewership. And I don't know if people just
you know, like with the accents or you know, the
hard to understand or you know, the miscommunication between you know,
our culture their culture, you know, with trying to ask
questions and get answers. Because this was a little bit
difficult of an interview because of some of that stuff.
But man, the stuff that he's doing over in Sumatra,
Indonesia and and you know India and stuff with the
irang Pendeck is really fascinating. And again there's there's kind
of a disconnect between the questions I was trying to
ask and his responses. But there's so much to that
interview on that episode of one forty three that I
think is is worth looking at because a lot of
cryptos wallogist, a lot of researchers believe that if any
of these animals, you know, the Bigfoot, the you know,
the sea creatures, the supercabras, Mothman, what have you, if
any of these things are going to be discovered, the
first one probably is going to be the rang Pendeck.
And there's just so much you know, like footprints and
and actual more I don't want to say evidence, but
there's there's a lot more witnesses and stuff on this
very small area, you know that that we can look into.
So the irang Pendeck is is very influential, cryptid and
it goes unnoticed by a lot of people. So episode
one one three, if you haven't watched it, or if
you've watched it, maybe go back check it out again,
because uh, share it out there, because this is some
really fascinating stuff with Dolly and he's he's one of
the most you know, prominent researchers over there. He's he's
worked with a lot of people like Cliff Barrickman and
stuff helped fund his research, and you know, see he's
he's a very prominent figure over in Indonesia and some
matra and stuff researching this stuff. So I think if
you haven't checked it out, you should. It's very important.
Go watch it. Awesome, all right, any other things, you know,
tell me if you're tuning in now, tell me your
favorite episode of Monsters on the Edge. What has stood
out to you? What has been your favorite piece of
evidence or stuff shared on the show here? Okay, so
some other cryptids. We talked about the Ring Pendeck, We
talked about some of that stuff, the creatures of Mexico.
But we had some guests on here as well that
talked about other cryptids. One of them was episode fifty seven.
We talked in depth about goat Man and pans and
satyrs and things of that nature with j. Nathan Couch,
who wrote a book on that, and we talked about
everything from down in Kentucky to Wisconsin and all over
the world of these sightings of half Goat, Half human creatures.
Really interesting stuff. If you're interested in, you know, things
that aren't Bigfoot, go check out j Nathan Couches episode
episode fifty seven UH and episode one thirty five Jacob
Gurra Gerra with the Ropin Network, And of course ropins
are these flying pterosaur type creatures Papua New Guinea, Africa
and you know see excuse me around the world. That
was another really interesting episode. I love talking about other
cryptids other than just Bigfoot all the time. So whenever
I can seek out these guys who have boots on
the ground research or have done a lot of research
into this stuff, it's always fascinating to talk about these guys.
I also think we talked with Ken Gerhard about the
the ropin and the flying pterosaurs as well, and ken
Gerhard was the episode one, so interesting stuff there, you know,
it's it's you know, there's a lot more sightings in
the US of these things then people may know. The
flying cryptid dinosaur guys uh in Pennsylvania, Texas, Arizona, New Mexico.
A lot of stuff going on there. So see, Kim,
there you go. I'm gonna have to catch up on
you with all the ones that I missed before I
found you. I've been here the whole time three years now,
so uh. But that's why I'm saying, like, there's there's
so many interesting episodes that you know that I feel
were influential, and you know, and that's not to say
that any any episode on my show is is more
important than another, but it just they got overlooked. There
weren't as many views of certain episodes, and I think
that it's important that like maybe maybe you were, you know,
not home that day, maybe you missed an episode, had
to work or something, or the episode was titled badly
and you just kind of skipped over it, and I
think that, you know, I want you to watch those episodes.
That's what I want, not not for my sake, but
for your sake, because you know, there's there's so much
that was interesting and happened, and you know, awesome guests.
And that's why I want to kind of point to
and speaking of which, we had a couple of great
guests on here talking about historical cases, and the first
of which I want to talk about is episode seventeen.
Right away, back in the beginning Ape Canyon, Mark Marcel
was on our show talking about all the stuff, fascinating stuff.
It was right after I had him on his show
that he actually rediscovered the cave where they believed they
were doing the not the cave, the mine site of
Ape Canyon. So the canyon site had been found, the
cabin or whatever, but not the actual mind location. And
right after Mark Marcel had been on the show, they
actually rediscovered what they believe is the entrance to the
mine that they were mining. So awesome stuff, awesome information
if you're interested in like historical cases and stuff. Mark
Marcell was on talking about that, and then probably one
of the most controversial, one of the most misidentified cases
is the Minnesota Iceman. And my good friend Terry Cullen
was just a researcher back in the day, not not cryptids,
but herpetology and amphibians, reptiles and very scientifically minded, and
he happened upon the Minnesota ice Man right here in
Wisconsin when it was on display in Milwaukee, and he
went to see it and paid his nickel, went in
there thinking, you know, like everyone else, Oh it's just
you know, another pt Barnum scam or whatever, you know,
and came in there and started to look at this thing.
And realized that the specimen on display was an actual
flesh and blood animal at one time. Now Terry has
gone at great lengths to say, this is not a bigfoot,
this is not what you would consider a sasquatch or
anything like that. But he believed it may have been
like one of these creatures that have been talked about
over in Vietnam, of like these these rock ape type creatures,
kind of a smaller bigfoot, you know. The people who
fought in Vietnam talked about these rock apes, and the
reason they're called that is because they would throw rocks
at the soldiers while they were over there both sides,
and a lot of these creatures had been shot and
killed by both sides thinking that they were, you know,
the enemy during the war. So a lot of the
rock apes that may have been existed or you know,
still lived, had been killed off during the Vietnam War.
But according to you know, some of the information that
he had gathered, the guy that was displaying this was
either a pilot or had access to transport one of
these creatures. Possibly again this is all speculation, but possibly
from Vietnam out of there during this time, and that's
how he got a hold of this biological specimen. Now
the story goes on, and I'll let you guys listen
to the whole story for yourself. It's a fascinating thing.
But eventually Terry was able to get a hold of
some big names in the research facilities and got them
to come and take a look at this and brought
them out there had a look at it, and they
all agreed that this was a unknown creature. But what
happened was is there was they were using heat lamps
to take photographs and stuff and to examine this in
the guy's barn, and they cracked the glass on the
display and they got into this argument about you know,
well you need to pay for the glass and you
know all this stuff, and eventually the researcher stormed out
and he said, well, you know, you shouldn't be transporting
this across state lines because this is a biological specimen.
It's against you know, dn R regulations and all this stuff,
and you're going to get a huge fine. And at
that point the guy and I forget, I mean, I
don't know all the names and stuff at this point,
there's so much going on, but he says that you know, well,
you're gonna get fined if you keep transporting this. And
the guy that was showcasing it says, well, then I'm
going to make the body disappear. And then the body disappears,
and the fake replica started appearing at events and stuff,
and at that point, Terry says, you could tell this
was not the original specimen. And there's so much more
detail into this. You know, he talks about, you know,
seeing like tiny bugs or fleas or mites or stuff
on this body. You know, the hair follicles, broken blood
vessels and stuff that he was able to observe, and
all this stuff that nobody would have put into a
hoax back in that time period. But again, then there
was this replica made because then he could say, well,
this isn't a real body. I'm just you know, it's
just a show all this stuff, and he didn't want
to get arrested for transporting biological specimens across state lines
and all this stuff. So that's what ended up being
the hoax that everyone talks about today. But absolutely fascinating story.
Terry's going to be at cap Con this coming weekend
telling this whole story in person again. But for anybody
else that can't make it up to cap con. It
is episode fifty three of the Monsters on the Edge here,
definitely go give that a listen. Terry goes into a
lot of detail to the point where you will you
will believe the story. It is that much evidence that
he was able to collect and research on this thing
before it became a hoax. So definitely lost to history
that case. So go check that out, all right. So
my favorite episodes the I want not my favorite episodes.
I have had some a lot of fun on the show,
and I've had a lot of guests that I've enjoyed
talking to and sharing stories and time with and stuff.
A lot of my close friends in the research community
and that have come on, and you know, I've gotten
to talk and meet to a lot of great people
here on the show. But these are the episodes that
I think, if you're you're a serious researcher, if you're
a serious investigator, and you want to take your research
and your evidence and stuff to the next level, these
are the episodes that you should be watching. And again,
they did not get a lot of views on YouTube.
I don't know the exact specific specifications of our podcast data,
but YouTube just didn't get a lot of views. So
first off, number fifty nine, doctor Sarah Skiba from the
Ape Initiative. I talk about this episode all the time.
She is a bonobo researcher. Now, Bonobo's are very similar
to their great ape they're very similar to chimpanzees. For
a long time we thought that bonobos were chimpanzees, but
we actually found out through DNA analysis and genetics and
stuff that they are completely different species again from Africa,
similar to chimpanzees. This is why, very same habitats, very
similar biologies and look and stuff. But she is out
of Iowa and she did she's part of the Ape
Institute and came on to talk about her research with
bonobos and great apes, and we got to pose this
to her from the aspects of sasquatch. So we think sasquatches,
you know, do wood knocks, and this was one of
the most important things of that episode. She goes, well,
the noobos are known to drum on the roots of trees,
so they do like this very similar thing to wood knocking.
They have very strong hands, they cup them and they
slap the roots for communication, which is very similar to
what we're talking about. With these would knock sounds that
we attribute to bigfoot phenomenon, and she talks about, you know,
their behavioral patterns, their social groups, and just so much
information about the great apes and bonobos specifically. You know,
she she didn't know a lot of bigfoot, sorry, gorilla orangutang,
Chapanzee stuff because her her main focus of research is banobos.
But I mean this is enough. I mean, when you're
comparing sasquatch bigfoot to an actual hominid, a great ape
like the bonobo, it's so fascinating to be able to
look at what the similarities are, the vocalizations, the sounds,
you know, do they make howls? Do bernobos whistle? These
are all the questions that I was able to pose
to Sarah and get answers for all of you. This
is my top episode that I think excuse me that
I think you guys should watch. If you are interested
in Sasquatch rec search, go and listen to this episode
and dig more into Sarah and the Ape Institute in Iowa.
Because she was a fantastic guest. She came on because
at the time, the mockumentary that was at Sasquatch Summit
or sunset or something came out and so they had
been interviewed by the producers and stuff of that, and
so she came on to help promote the mockumentary movie
of that. But again, very interesting stuff with her research
and very interesting episode. Highly recommend it. Another episode that
I highly recommend is episode eighty four. Now, this was
a forensic evidence collection with David Ziegen. He is a
forensic collector for the police departments and detective agencies and stuff.
So he talked about how to properly document your findings
from footprints to hair samples to you know, skin lipids, handprints,
all this stuff like you were going to present it
in a court case. Because at the end of the day,
if we're trying to prove that, you know, Bigfoot is
real and we want to be taken seriously in the
industry of research, in the scientific community, we need to
defend this like it's being defended in court, because you know,
there's a lot of skeptics out there, and with AI
and all the stuff that's going on, it's getting harder
and harder to tell the difference between what's real and
what's not. So having a lot of data, a lot
of good collected data is very important and he is
an amazing episode, amazing speaker. A lot of pictures and
stuff in that episode as well to show you this
is what we're talking about. So episode eighty four Forensic
Forensic Evidence Collection with David Ziegen is just a phenomenal
resource for you guys to go back and check out.
And you know, taking multiple photos, make sure there's something
in the photo that is for scale. Use different lighting
so that you can see the depth and the detail
of the prints. Don't just take them from above, take
them from the side, take them from the edge, take
them from this angle, all the cardinal directions, put take
wider angles of them. Don't just take a picture of
the footprint, take a picture of ten feet out from
the footprint, fifteen twenty feet out so that you can
see the area where this thing was, because all this
information is important. Is there a water source nearby? Are
there trees? What kind of path was this on? Was
it on a path? Was it on a riverbank? You know,
all this stuff could be important, you know, to furthering
the research. Further information out there. So awesome episode. Definitely
check that out. Number eighty four another episode that I
really enjoyed and look forward to. Was episode one oh
five dog Man in Canada with Morgan Knutsen. She had
an amazing encounter. She's done a lot of research with
the dog Man up there, so if you're interested in
you know, these these werewolf creatures, dog Man, Beast of
Bray Road, Michigan dog Man, stuff like that. Uh. It
is a great episode because she has gone out and
talked to a lot of the indigenous people up there,
and it was fascinating to see how in the United
States we hear all the time about the Indigenous people
talking about Bigfoot. Right, there's bigfoot all over their cultural
all over their you know, their totem poles, their mythologies,
their histories. We hear all this stuff about Bigfoot, but
we don't hear a lot about dog Man. And according
to her, it's the complete opposite up in Canada. A
lot of the researchers stuff there, they do have they
do have Bigfoot stories, same as we have dog Man
here in the United States. But the indigenous peoples of
Canada talk a lot more about these dog man creatures
and it ties in with you know, the French Canadians
and stuff, bringing that stories over there and then again
down to Louisiana, the French quarter. Down there you have
the root let me slow down, the rugaroo, and in
Canada you have the Loop Garu. Of these these dog
man creatures, so fascinating to hear some of the stuff
that she had to say about that. Plus on top
of that, she was able to she had this one
area that she was doing research and leading tour groups
and stuff in she doesn't anymore, but she was going
out to these areas and had a face to face
encounter with one of these creatures and it actually stepped out.
She was able to see its face everything, and such
a cool story. So if you're interested in the dog
man phenomenon, uh, the indigenous stories of Canada and you know,
the French Canadians and stuff, and the Loop Guru, the
Rue Guru of Louisiana. She is amazing speaker. She has
her own podcast as well. Definitely go check that one out.
That one was again number one oh five uh. And
the last one I think that everyone should kind of
go listen to, and you know, I surprising to me
was episode one twenty five E DNA Collection E DNA
and Data Collection with Thomas she I thoroughly enjoyed that
episode as well. It really surprised me because I've heard
a lot about Thomas she and uh, you know, his
research and stuff, and it was it was really good.
And I always thought that Tom Shay was a very
flesh and blood researcher, and it surprised me because he
had a lot of metaphysical stuff, paranormal attributes that he
attributed to these creatures. And that one was a very
surprising interview, very surprising episode for me to kind of
delve into it and hear how he mixed the Bigfoot
phenomenon and data collection and stuff with all this wu
and you know what we consider that side of the
Bigfoot phenomenon of orbs and all that. Another one and
I don't have that on my list. I think I
missed it. I'll give me one second. I'll tell you
what episode it is was Shane Corson. Shane Corson is
amazing researcher and he had one of the most like
aha moments for me when I was interviewing him a
while back on Monday Morning Monsters. But he is Episode
ninety three Sasquatches in the Mist with Shane Corson and
and one of the things that stood out that he
had mentioned to me was the putting trail cameras on
rivers and researching on rivers because and in this is
you know, maybe common knowledge because if anybody's listened to
my show, I've talked about this, you know, numerous times
since it became this aha moment to me. But you know,
you have water which makes noise. It covers up the
potential sound of yourself or these creatures. These trail cameras,
you know that they may put out that these creatures
could hear. So you have the water that's masking the
sounds of what's going on. You have the smells so
much water, you know, there's the water has a very
distinct smell obviously, you know, and you know people the
creatures can smell that, and they go towards water, you know,
how to find their water sources and that, uh so
you can hide very easily things along water sources. And
he talked about using like trail cameras and stuff in
conjunction with that. And to go along with that, that
is episode number ninety three was Shane corson. To go
along with that, I had another guest on and forgive me.
I didn't have this one ready. Another guest come on
and he was talking about putting a three sixty trail
camera along these, and these are really cool. I ended
up going out and buying one after having him on
the show, and it basically shoots three sixty photos instead
of just in one direction. I think he must have
been on that one must have been a paranormal spectrum episode,
because I don't say it on here, but he came
out and talked about putting a three sixty camera out
and it shoots a panoramic three to sixty picture. And
to be able to put that in a waterway where
you can see, you know, all different ways and up
the rivers or creeks or whatever and be able to
see that. I think that is a great research technique
and should be checked out. And Walmart has the three
sixty cameras for anybody that's interested. They do have cell
capabilities and can shoot the camera the photos right back
to your phone if you have cell service. Flat Rockland says,
the legend of Boggy Creek taught us that absolutely well.
Unfortunately I did not grow up with the legend of
Boggy Creek, so I was not, you know, familiar with that.
I'm learning as I go here, and that's that's one
of the fabulous things about having this podcast and the
show is being able to you know, hear other researchers
and learn stuff because you get to talk to people
and ask questions and stuff and just just amazing stuff.
But again, yeah, these creatures follow the waterways and that
that I kind of knew. But the thought of putting
your your evidence traps there never occurred to me. That,
you know, you have so much cover there, you know,
and and everything has to come down there, anything that drinks,
your deer, your food sources. They're amazing place. And to
put your trail cameras and stuff there to try and
kind of cover that stuff up really makes a lot
of sense. And Shane Corson was awesome brought that to
my attention. All right, let's seeps, not that not that
I'm sorry, hang on, hang on, get rid of that
too many windows open. All right, So episodes, you should
watch episodes International, Inspirational in Memoriam, other cryptids and starcases.
That brings us to, uh, what have we got left?
Anybody else again? If you're just joining us here, there's
a couple of new faces in the audience and stuff.
What was your favorite episode that we've had so far?
One hundred and fifty six episodes of Monsters on the
Edge here and some amazing guests. And again, I don't
mean to leave anybody out. There been so many, and
I didn't want to talk about every single episode and
bore you, guys. I just wanted to tell you about
some stuff that really stood out to me, and you
know that was maybe underappreciated. And this is why if
I left you off the list and you're listening that
you were a guest on here, your episode maybe did
better than most of them. And that's why I didn't
talk about it, because people did watch it, people did
enjoy it and listen to it, and it isn't as
underappreciated as some of these other ones that I thought
deserve to be, you know, the higher watched episodes, not
that they're better, but just because there's so much information
that I learned from it. And this is just my
personal experience and stuff. So what wash, Here's here's what
I want to do. We have one thousand, one hundred views.
Is the where we're going to start here, of episodes.
These are the top ten top ten, one, two, three
or six, seven eight, top eleven episodes of my show.
I want you guys to guess, without looking, who you
think was the number one highest watched episode, because it is.
It is very surprising. I don't know. Maybe not surprising,
but I don't know. It wouldn't have been the episode
that I thought. So I went through and I checked
off all the top episodes starting at one thousand and
then up. So at one thousand was episode fifteen. Jessica
Jones was on my show talking about remote viewing Bigfoot.
That was a really interesting episode, you know, to put
together with the remote viewing and looking for Bigfoot and interesting. Anyway,
I'll leave it with that, but there you go. Episode
number ninety three, which was Sasquatch in the Mist was
Shane Corson. I didn't have to go look for it. It
was already on my list, ranked at one one hundred
views coming in tying with that, give or take number
twenty nine. Jeff Davis and Kyle McDowell from Alaskan Killer
Bigfoot ranked as the top ten most watched episodes. Wendell
Bigfoot nine one one says his was the top ranked episode.
Oh man, thank you so much for coming on again. Nope,
I'm sorry you didn't make the top ten. A great episode,
but I almost put it on here on one of
my lists as well, so I try, but again can't
mention everybody, but there you go. Episode sixty five, Encounters
with the Forest People with Mel Skahan was again one views.
And then we move up to one thousand, three hundred,
number one twenty seven High Strangeness of Eastern Tennessee with
Harley Owens. That one's interesting. I don't know if it's
the High Strangeness or Harley Owens or what, but it
just surprises me, like which episodes got the most views.
And then coming in at one thousand and four hundred,
episode fifty six, Doug high Check. I had Doug on
my show again to talk about the work that he's
doing with Sasquatch Legend Beat Science, and it just surprised
me that, you know, he has his own show on
the network and gets, you know, all these views on
his show, but he still made it on the top
ten most viewed episodes of my show. So I thought
that was funny. Episode number fifty three, the Minnesota Iceman
episode I'm really happy that that made the top ten because,
like I said, it's a fascinating story that one got
one thousand, six hundred views on YouTube. And then we
move up to one thousand and eight. Jesse Doyle from
Hellbent Holler came in there and the top one, two, three, four,
Top four episodes. Anybody still have an idea who the
number one episode was? Put them in the comments number four,
one thousand, nine hundred episode fifty with Ron moorehead talking
about quantum Bigfoot and yeah, and that's the thing, you know,
these views can't be verified though, absolutely, And I get that, Like,
I have no idea how the algorithm works on YouTube,
So I don't know if it's just they watched ten
seconds of an episode or if they watch the whole
episode or what have you. But it's just just interesting that,
you know, certain episodes ranked higher than others, and I'm
just wondering why, oh, they just can't joke you with
that they are though, I mean, I don't know, there's
you know, when when we talk about like how YouTube works,
I think that it's a mess. I don't think anybody.
I don't even think the people that YouTube know how
that works. Lee says the Less Stroud episode, Lee, I
have never had less Stroud on my show. I have
invited him on and he has not been on there.
So no, I haven't had less Stroud on. We'll keep trying.
Episode number three Top three episode number twenty one with
two thousand three views. Boggy Creek to Bray Road with
Lyle Blackburn was the number three highest ranked. Episode number two,
and this one I think has to do with controversy
creates cash that old adage. But episode thirty nine a
new look at Patty with Todd Gatewood and MK Davis.
These guys are some very interesting stuff that they've done
with the Patterson Gimlin footage, and we had them on
to talk about that and some of the enhancements that
they made to the footage. We'll leave it at that.
Four thousand, two hundred views in there as well. Yes, exactly,
those were the most viewed by their followers. So that's
that's always interesting too, like I said, because you know,
like if I have a guest on that promotes it
or versus doesn't promote it, or if they have a
big following, they're gonna get more views. But even still,
you know, like some of those, you know, like Ron Moorehead.
Ron Moorehead was one of the top ones. But you know,
we just had ken Gerhart on and he was a
pretty average episode, like five six hundred views I think
was his We'll see what that one was. Oops, wrong,
I mean the average. There's an average above like five
hundred to something on here, but Ken Gerhart had four
hundred and twenty nine so far with being on two
months now. So yeah, oops, I lost where I was
the number one? Who was the number one? Final chance?
Here we go eleven thousand? Okay, Number two was four thousand,
two hundred views. Number one has eleven thousand views Episode
number thirty three with Sabyla Irwin. She is a bigfoot
sketch artist for anybody who doesn't know. But I figure
with eleven thousand views, she probably is pretty well known.
And I mean nothing against I mean nothing against anybody.
I'm not saying like why she gets eleven thousand views,
but like she's she's a sketch artist, you know, she's
I don't know, like maybe maybe at the time when
I had her on, she hadn't been on a lot
of podcasts or hadn't been on podcasts lately, or you know,
maybe I just hit at the right time that you know,
everyone wanted to hear Sybylla. But then she ended up
being a co host on the station here for for
a while after that with one of the other shows.
So I don't I don't know why her episode just
took off, but eleven thousand views, My highest ranking episode
is with Sybylla Irwin. So thank you, Sybylla. I really
appreciate it, and it was it was a great episode.
I mean, the the art that she does is absolutely phenomenal.
I take nothing away from her that you know, I
don't think she deserves it or anything like that. It's
just surprising that, you know, of all the guests that
I've had on all the shows, that she made it
to the top. I don't know who I would have
expected to be at the top. I really don't. I
don't know. I mean, like I said, I have had
some amazing people on, amazing stories, amazing researchers, and it's
it's been a lot of fun talking to all these people.
And that's why I love doing the shows, because you know,
I don't I don't do it for all of you
people listening. I do it because it was, you know,
the stuff that I want to research, the stories that
I wanted to hear, and people that had information that
I wanted, you know, to help my research and stuff
that I'm working on. So awesome, guys, I sincerely appreciate
each and every one of you that is tuned in
for the last one hundred and fifty five and now
one hundred and fifty six episodes of this show. Thank
you so much. It means a lot to me that
you guys tune in and share Monday each and every
week with me here on the Untold Radio Network. And
you know, for those of you who've watched me since
the beginning of like I said at the beginning of
the show, Whispers from the Dark the Caps podcast, we
have fifty fifty six episodes of that on our YouTube channel.
We have forty one episodes of Monday Morning Monsters that
I did prior to coming to the Untold Radio Network.
Some great guests on there as well, but one fifty
six and today that's where we're gonna leave it. So
I am going to be taking a break from Monsters
from the Edge and the Paranormal Spectrum. I am going
to be focusing more on my personal research, going out
back into the field and doing a lot of stuff
because this takes a lot of time to do these
shows every week, to find guests, to do the graphics,
get the bios set up when people can come on,
if I have to record an interview, and it is
a lot of work. You know, it looks like we
just come on here for an hour a week and
talk to you, But so we do this. I do
this twice a week, so I have twice as much
work for both of my podcasts and both of my
shows here, and so that's where we're going to go.
We have today will be for now the last episode
of Monday Morning Monsters. I will be taking a break.
I've talked to Doug about this, and I may be
coming back in the fall. I'm taking the summer off
for sure. I want to spend some time just back
out in the field, researching and more's I'm with the
stuff that I want to look into, and you know,
getting back out there and doing more of those. But
I may be back in the fall. We'll see how
it goes, maybe rebrand the episodes and the shows a
little bit, see how it gets tweaked. But this goes
for the Paranormal Spectrum as well. We will be taking
a break from that starting after this week. You have
one more episode of the Paranormal Spectrum to look forward to.
I am really looking forward to this Thursday. I have
Pete Kelcey on from Skinwalker Ranch. He is going to
be on talking about lidar and all the fun stuff there,
and so it is going to be an absolutely amazing episode.
And hopefully he has internet signal this time, because he
had some problems with that last time and that's why
we had to reschedule. But Thursday we will be live
with Pete Kelsey from Skinwalker Ranch TV show, and he
is going to be talking about the new season of Skinwalker,
which actually comes out May nineteenth. I'm super excited for that.
But this will be my last episode for the summer
of Monday Morning Monsters, and this Thursday will be the
last episode of the Paranormal Spectrum until we meet again
possibly in the fall. We'll see how it goes. But
again I'm just gonna be taking some time off here
to do my own stuff, do some research, get back
out there, take a break. I've been working a lot
with the convention and the podcasts and all this stuff,
and I want to just kind of refocus everything that
we're doing with CAPS, with my own team, Cryptids Anomalies
and the Paranormal Society. You can check us out still
at Wisconsin Caps on YouTube. The links for all of
my stuff is in the show notes, and again you
can head on over to wisconsincaps dot com and find
where I'm gonna be. So if you really miss my face,
you can come see me in person. I'll be at
events and stuff as well. But it's gonna be a
fun time and hopefully, hopefully we'll see each other again.
I don't think. I don't think it's the end of
the podcasting for me. I think I just need to
take a break because it's been a lot two shows
a week for the last three to five years. Wherever
you look at it, I spent a lot of time
with you. And again, I really appreciate all of you.
Thank you all for the kind words. Lisa, as you'll
miss me, Lee, I'll see you this weekend and I'm
sure we'll stay in touch. Octopus, thank you all so much.
Thank you for the kind words. I appreciate you, you know,
and again, z not goodbye. It is not the end
of monsters on the end, it is not the end
of the paranormal spectrum. It's just a break. I need
a break. I need a nap. And so with that
being said, guys, I mean I can't thank you enough.
Like I said, eleven thousand views on one episode, whoever's
watching that, thank you. I mean it means a lot.
I get recognized at conventions and out in public, more
so for these podcasts than I do for my own research.
And that's another reason that I kind of want to
step back, because I want people to know that I'm
not just a podcast host. I do research. I go
out on the field. I you know, I live this
life and there's more to me than just sitting behind
a computer talking to people on the screen so or
audio if you're listening to this. But I'm gonna go
do that. I'm gonna go wander through the woods and
I'm gonna go look at some haunted locations. And when
next you guys see me, besides this Thursday, when next
you guys see me, hopefully I have a lot more
stories for you and we'll see where it goes. But
thank you guys so much. I really appreciate it, and
until next time, until we meet again, see on the
Edge