Speaker 1: Hello, Here we are with a new episode of Pints
Speaker 1: and Pages. I'm Nick and for today's episode, we are
Speaker 1: going to talk about a controversy conspiracy, it's not.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's really a conspiracy. It's pretty much
Speaker 2: right there. It's yeah, it's.
Speaker 3: A it's a controversy with between a YouTuber and a corporation. Well,
Speaker 3: it started out with an individual store turned into a corporation.
Speaker 1: Well, and it started with a just a grandfather trying
Speaker 1: to pay for his children, his grandchildren's education. That turned
Speaker 1: into his son that turned it over to the YouTuber.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I was just say I didn't know what the money
Speaker 3: was for. If anyone can tell it's the reckless Bend
Speaker 3: it is.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So what it is is the bricks and minifigs
Speaker 1: reckless reckless Bend controversy. You know, I only know I
Speaker 1: So I'll start with what little bit that I tiny know.
Speaker 1: When I was trying to explain it to Misty, she
Speaker 1: looked at me and she said, is that all the
Speaker 1: information you have? And I said yeah, And she goes,
Speaker 1: how are you going to get a podcast out of it?
Speaker 1: And I said, Levi and Brad, Yeah, yeah, So Levi
Speaker 1: and Brad know way more than I do. But I
Speaker 1: think the whole premise is it started with a grandfather
Speaker 1: had been buying Star Wars legos since they started, yeah,
Speaker 1: and had not opened any of them, and then went
Speaker 1: to his son and said, I want to sell everything
Speaker 1: that I've been collecting for years and pay for the
Speaker 1: grandchildren's education. And the little did the son know that
Speaker 1: he had two hundred thousand dollars worth of the lego
Speaker 1: Star Wars stuff.
Speaker 4: We can get more into that, but that is with
Speaker 4: what we have seen.
Speaker 3: It is still contended how much it was actually worth.
Speaker 3: Some people are looking at eighty to one hundred and
Speaker 3: twenty thousand. Some people say that some of those sets
Speaker 3: are like two hundred, like with all of it combined,
Speaker 3: could be a little over two hundred thousands.
Speaker 1: Well kind of all over it.
Speaker 2: I think the argument on that front is stemming from
Speaker 2: the fact that consumers in the secondary market versus a
Speaker 2: business in the secondary market, correct, They're gonna fucking.
Speaker 1: Low ball you.
Speaker 2: Everybody's gonna lowball you. There's conflicting levels of inventory lists,
Speaker 2: what has been sold already what hasn't. Because some of
Speaker 2: those sets did sell and they did get paid for
Speaker 2: some of them but there's there is some before the
Speaker 2: ownership change and shit. Yeah, but I think if you
Speaker 2: look at that overall list and you were trying to
Speaker 2: rebuy that entire list right fucking now, you are going
Speaker 2: to spend more than two hundred thousand dollars because of
Speaker 2: shipping fees, this, that, the fucking other sourcing everything, It's
Speaker 2: gonna cost you that much.
Speaker 1: So I guess where I'll start is I kind of
Speaker 1: laid the foundation that was how it was going in,
Speaker 1: and then I will let you guys go. So I
Speaker 1: know there was a contract written the son went to
Speaker 1: a lawyer, had a contract written up to take in
Speaker 1: with the materials to the store. And the store in
Speaker 1: question it's a store in Utah, which is a franchise
Speaker 1: of Bricks and Minifigs, which Bricks and Minifigs is a
Speaker 1: company that sells, yeah, and sells Legos. They a lot a.
Speaker 2: Lot of people love the comparison that they are the
Speaker 2: game stop of Legos.
Speaker 3: Oh yes, all right, But I will also say, because
Speaker 3: some people have gotten it fucked up, I imagine you
Speaker 3: two might understand it better. At first this only had
Speaker 3: to do with the franchise e, and now it has
Speaker 3: to do with the corporation, but all the other franchisees
Speaker 3: have no like any of the other brand so Minifigs
Speaker 3: does have no influence. Well a lot of people online
Speaker 3: and granted it's the internet idiot mentality, but they've been
Speaker 3: going and punishing other Bricks and Minifigs by being assholes
Speaker 3: at stores or being jem gasses.
Speaker 1: And it's like, hey, yeah, basically what it is is
Speaker 1: Bricks and Minifigs is is essentially a game stop. It's
Speaker 1: with the exception of the fact that each one is
Speaker 1: independently owned.
Speaker 3: Well, the easier way to compare it is McDonald's. McDonald's
Speaker 3: owns the building. They owned the property, but the owner,
Speaker 3: the franchiser, is the one who put up the money
Speaker 3: to build it and is the one that technically owns
Speaker 3: I guess they owned the building. McDonald's owns the ground
Speaker 3: breaks and Minifigs also owns the building.
Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure they lease it.
Speaker 2: But their their contract agreements are actually some pretty sketchy
Speaker 2: fucking things if you start reading like that. There were
Speaker 2: a lot of franchises that posted their agreements up after
Speaker 2: this ship and it's weird.
Speaker 1: And it has nothing to do with Lego. Lego does
Speaker 1: not any of it. It's it's a nactual corporation called
Speaker 1: Bricks and Minifigs that that maybe this guy built one
Speaker 1: building somewhere and then and then all of a sudden
Speaker 1: just decided to sell franchise out other local like, hey,
Speaker 1: do you want to own a bricks and many figs
Speaker 1: in your thing? I will franchise it out. That's why
Speaker 1: I think the problem.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think the main reason why so many
Speaker 2: locations are getting attackedive or something they had nothing to
Speaker 2: do with is because they're trying to take I think
Speaker 2: the fucking country is trying to take this franchise completely.
Speaker 1: Out at this point.
Speaker 2: They are trying to because since the way it was mishandled,
Speaker 2: it's not we all know the individual franchisees are not
Speaker 2: the problem. But if they're going to continue to pay
Speaker 2: this humongous corporation, who is the problem. They're fucking money
Speaker 2: for being a franchise e. Then that's that's why people don't,
Speaker 2: I don't think give a shit right now, right and
Speaker 2: they want the franchise gone in its entirety because you've
Speaker 2: got CEOs going on news channels making blatant lies, false reporting,
Speaker 2: like this dude should have like thirty fucking felonies.
Speaker 1: He did it all on camera.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And the other problem is while the other franchisees may
Speaker 1: not have an issue it, it may not like they
Speaker 1: may not do this, but the general public sees that
Speaker 1: if one franchisee was able to do it to one
Speaker 1: person and get the backing of the corporation, then any
Speaker 1: franchisee could do it to any person.
Speaker 2: Well, and that's it because you had a or who
Speaker 2: every bit of their shit and not even including like
Speaker 2: the consignment things, but their whole fucking store was stolen
Speaker 2: from him. Yeah, that was a stolen fucking Like if
Speaker 2: you read the fucking contracts and they keep doing this
Speaker 2: whole rico shit against they're the ones racketeering breaks. So
Speaker 2: Minifigs franchise, like the whole thing is the one record
Speaker 2: because they just went in and fucking stole a thing
Speaker 2: and they Yeah.
Speaker 1: So now what happened was he he had this contract,
Speaker 1: he went in, he gave them and then the interview
Speaker 1: I saw with his son from Reckless Ben was that
Speaker 1: he had basically the son had said, Hey, we went
Speaker 1: in and took pictures of the store after we dropped
Speaker 1: off the merch and like ninety percent of the store
Speaker 1: was ours. Was my dad shit on the shelves, Like
Speaker 1: they had to go buy extra shelving because my dad
Speaker 1: had so much stuff. Okay, So now so that the
Speaker 1: people listening, because we we obviously there's a lot layers
Speaker 1: and layers and layers to this, a lot of bricks.
Speaker 1: So yeah, a lot of bricks, a lot of minifigs.
Speaker 1: So what happened after that? So he dropped it all off,
Speaker 1: He took pictures. They did get paid for some of it.
Speaker 2: But then the original yeah, the original store owners were
Speaker 2: wanting to sell their business and get out of the franchise.
Speaker 2: They were going to move out of the country, and
Speaker 2: they were trying to handle everything properly. And then as
Speaker 2: soon as corporate got wind of it, they came and
Speaker 2: just took the fucking store from them, didn't They.
Speaker 1: Had They had another store owner, and I use that
Speaker 1: in quotes because they never could actually produce the other
Speaker 1: store owner correct because the interview that I saw with
Speaker 1: the lady, yeah they owned the store that said, Hey,
Speaker 1: my husband got a job out of the country. We
Speaker 1: had signed this contract with this guy. He brought in everything,
Speaker 1: We got him all set up. I gave. I called
Speaker 1: corporate and I said, hey, I want to sell and
Speaker 1: they were like, I explained the situation with me buying
Speaker 1: all this product and me getting out of the country.
Speaker 1: And then they they called me back and were like, oh, look,
Speaker 1: we've got another guy that wants to buy, like close
Speaker 1: enough to your area. And she's like, oh, okay, he goes,
Speaker 1: so instead of us franchising out to him in another location,
Speaker 1: we're just going to have him buy yours. And she
Speaker 1: was like okay. But then, like the way I understood it,
Speaker 1: it got very convoluted because she never actually met the owner. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then when she tried to go back into the store,
Speaker 1: two dudes that she had never seen before just seized her.
Speaker 1: Just just she came into the store, they stopped her
Speaker 1: at the door and they kicked her out and she
Speaker 1: was never allowed to go back in. And then when
Speaker 1: reckless Ben went in and tried to talk to the manager,
Speaker 1: she he asked if he could see the owner, and
Speaker 1: she couldn't produce the owner. She couldn't produce, so then
Speaker 1: everybody was just assuming.
Speaker 3: They used the second owner as an excuse for them
Speaker 3: to just this the store.
Speaker 1: To quote the movie The New Store owner was a
Speaker 1: red herring for bricks and for bricks and minifing to
Speaker 1: just go in and seize everything because they wanted all
Speaker 1: this product.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they seize all the inventory, and then once a
Speaker 2: court case was one, they closed the store so they
Speaker 2: didn't have to pay because they actually they had been
Speaker 2: one in civil court, in not civil court, in a
Speaker 2: small claims court, and then they closed the business and
Speaker 2: somehow that negated all the liability.
Speaker 3: Which that's also where not where a lot of the
Speaker 3: issues coming into. But part of the big issue is
Speaker 3: the fact of he had to go through all of
Speaker 3: these loops and holes just go just get him into
Speaker 3: small claims court because they the police were actively not
Speaker 3: allowing him to serve him civil court papers.
Speaker 1: Yeah see, And I think that's where you guys know
Speaker 1: more than I do, because my story pretty much ends there,
Speaker 1: because that's about as far as I got was Then
Speaker 1: reckless Ben was going and trying to find out who
Speaker 1: the new owner was. They couldn't produce the owner. Then
Speaker 1: the police showed up, trespassed him, told him he couldn't
Speaker 1: come back or he'd be arrested. Yeah, so like the
Speaker 1: son couldn't go back, the grandpa could well, the grandpa
Speaker 1: was so poor health ben at that point.
Speaker 3: I can't remember how he managed to do it, but
Speaker 3: he found where the guy lived, or he found roughly
Speaker 3: the area where he stayed and propped up outside of
Speaker 3: the house and stores with signs and.
Speaker 2: A bunch of the supposed new owner, yeah, people who
Speaker 2: had taken over the store.
Speaker 1: There was two guys.
Speaker 2: One of them clammed the fuck up, met with them,
Speaker 2: didn't do much. The other one just started making all
Speaker 2: kinds of false reports to the police. He's like, they
Speaker 2: were gonna burn our house down, and you know, like
Speaker 2: all this kind of crazy shit. He called and said
Speaker 2: they had a bunch of heroin in the car, so
Speaker 2: they got them pulled over for that, and the cops
Speaker 2: followed everything.
Speaker 1: That's the part I don't really part of it.
Speaker 3: Well, part of that's part of where the big more
Speaker 3: into like Rico bullshit.
Speaker 4: When you go into that town. They're Mormons. They're all Mormons.
Speaker 3: And I'm not trying to say Mormons are bad people,
Speaker 3: but a majority of the police force, or at least
Speaker 3: a majority of the people working on that case, and
Speaker 3: then the people that were from corporate that took over
Speaker 3: the bricks and Minifig store.
Speaker 4: They're all Mormons also, so they all stuck together.
Speaker 2: No one's really brought this up too many times.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 2: I think Ben did in one of his early videos.
Speaker 2: But Bricks and Minifig is also the largest donator of
Speaker 2: money to that police department.
Speaker 1: I did not know that. Yeah, that was spoken up.
Speaker 1: They don't.
Speaker 2: Bricks and Minifigs donates a lot of money to police
Speaker 2: and ship in the towns where their fucking people reside.
Speaker 3: Which I will say, if you took all of the
Speaker 3: controversy away with how uh how expensive legos are and
Speaker 3: how legos are and how bad the secondary market is,
Speaker 3: I can understand doing that just to be like, hey,
Speaker 3: I want them pronto to the investigation or to a
Speaker 3: break in. Now that all this shit's happening, it's like, oh,
Speaker 3: what was your real intention there?
Speaker 1: Yeah, because.
Speaker 2: He just he's done it on fucking How the fuck
Speaker 2: is he not in jail? Like he everybody from Bricks
Speaker 2: and Minifigs has committed crimes directly on fucking television and
Speaker 2: they're not. I don't why aren't they getting not to
Speaker 2: Trump all the way to the end. But where we're
Speaker 2: at in current day, the judges aren't listening to Ben Now,
Speaker 2: part of that's his own issue from me. He's got one,
Speaker 2: he's got one judge that's helped, he's.
Speaker 3: Got one, but he's representing himself in court, so I
Speaker 3: think that's his big problem.
Speaker 4: No one's taking him serious.
Speaker 2: No, well, yeah, and the way he speaks sounds like
Speaker 2: some dumb kid who's just coming up and trying to
Speaker 2: pulling out like he really like his weakness is his
Speaker 2: fucking the way he looks in his voice, if he
Speaker 2: spoke like a more articulate, intelligent, fucking person. Those guys
Speaker 2: that have been walking thrown in prison a long time ago,
Speaker 2: and it's just it's like the whole YouTube thing and
Speaker 2: it's like, yeah, there's cops legitimately not taking you serious
Speaker 2: because someone mentioned you had a YouTube channel. And I
Speaker 2: think what cops seem to do is when they hear that,
Speaker 2: they're like, oh, we need to be on our tippy
Speaker 2: top best behavior because there's gonna be fucking cameras everywhere. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: and we need to make sure what's going on. Because
Speaker 2: if someone's throwing this much of a budget to bring
Speaker 2: a subpoena to someone's house, and you read it and
Speaker 2: you're a police officer and you see that it's a subpoena,
Speaker 2: and you call the fucking place that said, yes, this
Speaker 2: is a fucking subpoena that you're gonna give it to
Speaker 2: him instead of breaking thirteen fucking laws instead on camera
Speaker 2: speaking of subpoenas, This subpoena fucking bends Gmail account. That
Speaker 2: was also something that was a violation of rights. So
Speaker 2: if Ben really wanted to, he can go after Google
Speaker 2: now for breach of terms of services, violation of your
Speaker 2: fucking constitutional right, all kinds of shit. And they got
Speaker 2: he had a gag order restraining order on him. They
Speaker 2: got that revoked because the judge is like, this just
Speaker 2: violates every fucking fourth of them in right he's got.
Speaker 3: Because yeah, they escalated it, which is they this is
Speaker 3: the only time breaks a mini fig fucked up. They
Speaker 3: escalated it, adding more charges on to try to make
Speaker 3: stuff would stick. They made it felonies, which took it federal,
Speaker 3: and a federal judge looked at the gag order and went,
Speaker 3: what the fuck are we doing? This is a this
Speaker 3: is against his First Amendment right, like Brad said, and
Speaker 3: lifted finally lifted the gag order.
Speaker 1: So if can you scroll down through here while you
Speaker 1: guys are talking, I want to read because so is
Speaker 1: the store in American Fork. No, the store is.
Speaker 2: An Oregon and this is spread all way from Yeah,
Speaker 2: they've had to chase these idiots to their homes because
Speaker 2: they won't do anything, and the headquarters is in Utah.
Speaker 2: At one point Ben fled to Mexico apparently, now that
Speaker 2: was never confirmed, but he ended one of his videos
Speaker 2: being like, yeah, I have evidence that the police were
Speaker 2: trying to come find me in Los Angeles, so I
Speaker 2: left the country, is what he claimed.
Speaker 4: Obviously we don't know if he did or didn't.
Speaker 2: But just the fact that you have to put that
Speaker 2: in a video because you feel, yeah, they're they're afraid,
Speaker 2: almost quite literally breaking the law by chasing these people
Speaker 2: down across state lines or having other police department don't
Speaker 2: I don't get it.
Speaker 4: Sorry, No, that's all right.
Speaker 1: In response, CEO stated that BAM franchise interminated the prior
Speaker 1: franchise maintained that consignment agreements are not authorized under franchise rules,
Speaker 1: which we found there in their.
Speaker 3: Actual terms of service with franchisees, it is allowed, It's
Speaker 3: up to the franchisee corporate just has no hands in it.
Speaker 1: And then.
Speaker 2: They made up the reasons for seizing the store, so
Speaker 2: they like quite literally lied to seize it as well.
Speaker 2: I can't remember exactly how that went, but yeah, everything
Speaker 2: bricks and Minifig says somebody else did there in the
Speaker 2: middle of doing it at that exact fucking moment. That
Speaker 2: every fucking single thing they've tried to nab Ben with
Speaker 2: is something they are doing in that fucking particular moment.
Speaker 2: And they keep saying, well, why haven't you tried to
Speaker 2: give them back? Why And the CEO's like telling everybody,
Speaker 2: We've tried, but no one answers. We've tried, but you
Speaker 2: know no one will get back. Okay, you have not
Speaker 2: fucking tried, because you get the list of Legos and
Speaker 2: you drive to their fucking house and put them on
Speaker 2: the porch and you take a photo, knock on the door,
Speaker 2: call them be like.
Speaker 1: Here they are.
Speaker 2: Here's photo evidence of all your fucking Legos on your porch.
Speaker 2: That's how you solve it, dumb fuck like, well, you're
Speaker 2: not trying. If you didn't drive the fucking Legos to
Speaker 2: their house, you're not doing a goddamn thing. If you
Speaker 2: didn't put them in a truck and drive them somewhere
Speaker 2: right right, according.
Speaker 3: To the Google AI because I googled A because I
Speaker 3: was with you, I couldn't remember what their reasonings were.
Speaker 3: Their reason for seizing the franchise in the first place
Speaker 3: was part of it was the controversy going on. But
Speaker 3: Breaks and Minifig claimed that Crystal was behind on her
Speaker 3: rent payment and her franchise e payments. But I granted,
Speaker 3: I don't know how much you can find receipts for
Speaker 3: any of that because it's a he said. She said, Yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean without getting into anybody's accounts or personal finances, right.
Speaker 1: That.
Speaker 2: I just I just don't understand how anybody cuation anybody
Speaker 2: can look at this. And I don't want you to
Speaker 2: like harass people at the other places. Just don't fucking
Speaker 2: go there, Like, yeah, that's the people need to quit
Speaker 2: fucking showing up to these stores at all.
Speaker 1: Just don't go.
Speaker 2: And that's how you fight this, Like you just don't
Speaker 2: go and you just keep your fucking mouth shut, mine
Speaker 2: your own business, let the people involved in an issue
Speaker 2: take care of of it.
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, because it's man, I had told Brad
Speaker 1: yesterday when we had talked about this. I can't believe
Speaker 1: Lego hasn't stepped in.
Speaker 3: They kind of they can, but they can't. This is
Speaker 3: all second market. They like this like Wizards trying to
Speaker 3: stop scammers on eBay by It'd be like it'd.
Speaker 1: Be like TCG player ripping somebody off. Yeah, Wizard's way,
Speaker 1: because I mean that's will happened.
Speaker 2: Well, they can do certain things. They can shut off distribution.
Speaker 4: Yes, they can stop any new product.
Speaker 2: They can keep them from loose bricks, they can keep
Speaker 2: them from being on their website and ordering. Like, it's
Speaker 2: not too fucking hard for Lego to quietly just do
Speaker 2: some things nobody will ever know happened unless somebody at
Speaker 2: corporate speaks the fuck out. And they're not going to
Speaker 2: do that because it's more bad press. It's like Lego
Speaker 2: just shut us off because of all those yet and
Speaker 2: they'll start bitching and I'm like, Wow, the people that
Speaker 2: make the fucking product that you just stole from people
Speaker 2: told you no more, right, And it's like that means
Speaker 2: we should probably fallow. I would think Lego would be
Speaker 2: justified in doing it. Yeah, And they don't even need
Speaker 2: to fucking say anything publicly.
Speaker 1: They just come fucking it is funny that, like, so
Speaker 1: scroll up and I know we're talking about the the
Speaker 1: this thing. I want to know, like click on bricks
Speaker 1: and mini figs? Do they have a Wikipedia? Do they
Speaker 1: have like am Like? I don't think. I don't think
Speaker 1: they do publicly traded? Yeah, like is bricks and minifigs? Like?
Speaker 4: Is that like a they only have the controversy has
Speaker 4: a Wikipedia?
Speaker 1: Oh okay, all right, bricks and many.
Speaker 3: Because people have been typing that one in it is
Speaker 3: not a publicly traded company.
Speaker 1: Okay, So this Brian no, Brian Mantell is not. That
Speaker 1: is the son Almond mcneth. Yeah, that guy's that guy.
Speaker 4: That guy's a piece of ship.
Speaker 1: Okay, well, so is the Johnson. What's his name? Joshua Johnson.
Speaker 2: Joshua Johnson. He's the biggest fucking liar. Brandon Best is
Speaker 2: the only one that's been sorry, I can see more
Speaker 2: quiet and uninvolved. Ah okay, he must be the fucking
Speaker 2: brains or something here.
Speaker 1: He must be the conco.
Speaker 3: Just specifically that called the police and said that Ben
Speaker 3: threatened to burn the store down, burn headquarters down and
Speaker 3: kill everybody inside and shoot him.
Speaker 1: And all this.
Speaker 2: Joshua Johnson has said that they made threats against their
Speaker 2: house and stuff. He had him trespassed off of public
Speaker 2: property where he was allowed to do things.
Speaker 1: They tried.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're trying to charge them with vandalism because he
Speaker 2: posted a sign on a public board for posting signs.
Speaker 1: But yeah, and he was the one that said the
Speaker 1: heroin don't don't go back up because like, yeah, because
Speaker 1: right there bricks, there's bricks and minifigs's history like founded
Speaker 1: and yeah, found Battleground Washington by David Ortiz. I'm assuming
Speaker 1: not the first basement for the Red Sox and.
Speaker 2: John Okay, sick Amon and Matt have also sued their
Speaker 2: father and done a lot to take out I'm glad
Speaker 2: you brought this up. Yeah, So they started their father
Speaker 2: for a company which is a has one of the
Speaker 2: shistiest fucking business names.
Speaker 4: I don't know, I didn't see what the we steal
Speaker 4: your money.
Speaker 2: It's something, my dude, it's very a possessive term, like
Speaker 2: I'm it's like I'm gonna steal your shit and this
Speaker 2: is where I hide all my tax fraud. But they
Speaker 2: took it from their father, and then their father countersued
Speaker 2: and fucking took some ship back.
Speaker 1: And it was like a big battle.
Speaker 2: But these two idiots are literally the worst fucking people
Speaker 2: that you could ever encounter. They steal, they lie, they cheat,
Speaker 2: and they only care about each other and they probably
Speaker 2: like fucking incest, fucking butt fuck each other somewhere and
Speaker 2: legally mine LLC. Legally mine LLC. Yeah, that is the
Speaker 2: next the company they stole from, and then their dad.
Speaker 1: Stole it back.
Speaker 2: Because they thought they had some kind of weird entitlement
Speaker 2: to it because it was their father's business and they
Speaker 2: didn't believe he was running things properly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then he's like, I don't know, legally mine Yeah?
Speaker 1: Did they? They're all about it.
Speaker 3: So it was originally called the National Foundation for Asset Protection.
Speaker 3: They were later forced to rebrand as they were allegedly
Speaker 3: posing as some sort of nonprofit type of organization while
Speaker 3: being a for profit company, and so they rebranded to
Speaker 3: the ever iconic legally Mind Company.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: They basically help businesses steal legally. Here's all the paperwork
Speaker 2: to make sure this ships yours now. So consignment So yeah,
Speaker 2: consignment specifically for medical protection professionals. Oh, legally mind asset
Speaker 2: protection for medical professionals, so they help they helped or
Speaker 2: they helped fucking doctors who botch jobs.
Speaker 4: A client first approach to wealth management. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 4: want to send a message to.
Speaker 1: Get the X down at the bottom.
Speaker 2: Oh, it sure seems like a front to some illegal activity.
Speaker 2: Your guys's camera was covering and I can.
Speaker 1: Sell okay, services go to service.
Speaker 2: Asset protection, tax strategies, medical lawsuits, and a state planning.
Speaker 2: I want to see medical lawsuits, so it's kind of convenient.
Speaker 2: They would know everything about a dying man's property while
Speaker 2: stealing a dying man's property. Yeah, and running a fucking
Speaker 2: What drives a medical malpractice lawsuit? That's a great malpractice
Speaker 2: the fact that you fucked something up. It comes down
Speaker 2: to two things, cause and motivation. No, it comes down
Speaker 2: to you fucked.
Speaker 1: Up, so they offer malpractice insurance.
Speaker 3: The cause is often an alleged medical error netlag.
Speaker 4: Yes, what the motivation is financial.
Speaker 3: If personal assets are exposed, a malpractice claim becomes far
Speaker 3: more attractive to pursue. They are literally just practicing or
Speaker 3: helping shitty doctors practice shitty medicine.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: There, it is a complete family of the worst fucking
Speaker 2: people in the world. And I don't think we should
Speaker 2: be looking for like you like, we should not be Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: because it's cult fucking central I. You know, I used
Speaker 2: to want to live in Utah until like the last
Speaker 2: fucking ten years.
Speaker 1: What's about us all about?
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's in Ohio.
Speaker 1: Oh, it's in Ohio.
Speaker 4: This person I'm reading on Reddit posted this a month ago.
Speaker 2: They were sued last year by the Ohio State Bar
Speaker 2: Association free illegally practicing law in the state of Ohio,
Speaker 2: and they were found guilty by the State Supreme Court.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because they're not lawyers, but they're selling law, and
Speaker 1: they're selling law advice.
Speaker 4: Would you want about us company overview?
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: They're out to fuck the consumer in any goddamn way
Speaker 2: they can. They literally need to be in prison the
Speaker 2: rest of their lives, regardless, just on a moral fucking
Speaker 2: basis personal assets. But it's hard to find the fact
Speaker 2: that they specifically target, like, hey, we want to make
Speaker 2: sure you keep your shit?
Speaker 1: Yeah, what the fuck?
Speaker 2: Like, shouldn't people be wouldn't a doctor be more concerned
Speaker 2: of losing their license or their business or their ability to.
Speaker 1: Have a job.
Speaker 2: There's some mind somewhere that needs people to dig shit
Speaker 2: out of it, right, Yeah, I mean we just send
Speaker 2: in Russia. God, No, that sounds like a walk in
Speaker 2: the park. So they sometimes let gulog members into the
Speaker 2: open air. You want them strictly in the cold. They
Speaker 2: need to fucking be gone. They need to be gone
Speaker 2: from society. I can agree, Like, just remove them from
Speaker 2: the public, don't let them do anything's their fucking assets,
Speaker 2: since they want to protect everybody else's crooked bullshit.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I think regless Ben could have definitely handled this like
Speaker 2: a responsible adult.
Speaker 1: In some regard. Yeah, but but but that does not
Speaker 1: make for good YouTube. Well that it doesn't.
Speaker 2: He wouldn't have got any content because that's part of
Speaker 2: doing it right.
Speaker 3: You know, I've given him enough shit. But in his
Speaker 3: latest video he even talks about it to uh who
Speaker 3: was a aimin. He was, uh, because Amen kept asking
Speaker 3: you or kept saying, you're doing this just for content,
Speaker 3: You're doing this to be an ass, You're taking the
Speaker 3: easiest route, blah blah blah. And he's like, I've sent
Speaker 3: you several emails before I ever started a YouTube video, before.
Speaker 2: I ever came to the location I sent. I went
Speaker 2: to your website, Yeah, went to your.
Speaker 3: Email and emailed you and immediately aim It's like, show
Speaker 3: me the fucking emails, forward it, forward it now, send
Speaker 3: it to me now. And he's like okay, and he
Speaker 3: pulls out his phone and you go scrolling and he
Speaker 3: finds and he shows it and immediately Aimen's like, that's
Speaker 3: not the right email. You're you're texting, you're emailing a ghost.
Speaker 3: And he goes, well, I got that off your company's website.
Speaker 1: Your you're the CEO.
Speaker 2: I got it off your website, not the store's website,
Speaker 2: your website.
Speaker 3: And he's like, yeah, but you're you're emailing you a ghost.
Speaker 3: I'll give you the proper email. And he's like, this
Speaker 3: still doesn't change anything. In my opinion, it still doesn't
Speaker 3: change anything. He attempted to go at it the right
Speaker 3: way of like civil conversation. Now I will say he's
Speaker 3: I won't call him, I won't say being an ass,
Speaker 3: but his name is quite.
Speaker 1: Reckless man. Yeah. I was like, his name's very appropriate.
Speaker 1: I mean it's not it's not fighting for a good
Speaker 1: cause in the responsible man, that reckless man.
Speaker 2: I just it's funny how frustrated and angry Amon was
Speaker 2: getting in that video the most and I'm like, you know,
Speaker 2: you're scolding yourself. You're projecting anger onto Ben because you're
Speaker 2: too fucking stupid to realize that everything you're mad about
Speaker 2: is your company's fuck up. Like you're not taking your
Speaker 2: own account of you're mad at your fucking self, and
Speaker 2: how everybody decided to handle this, Like I don't, I don't,
Speaker 2: fucking I don't get how getting angry and trying to
Speaker 2: scold someone for not doing something properly when you aren't
Speaker 2: doing a fucking thing but lying through your teeth the entirely,
Speaker 2: Like you know you're lying, so like you think you
Speaker 2: would try to make your argument a little more fucking believable.
Speaker 1: They are obviously lying. Yeah, because of the simple fact
Speaker 1: period past anything else, an old man and his son
Speaker 1: went into a store and dropped off a truckload of
Speaker 1: Star Wars lego shit so.
Speaker 4: Much the corporation had to bring in U hauls to
Speaker 4: get rid of it.
Speaker 1: And and they did it. And they, I mean, they
Speaker 1: have proof that they dropped it off. They have proof
Speaker 1: that it was in the store. They have a contract
Speaker 1: that said the store would sell it for him. You
Speaker 1: did something with it, wild means something with it.
Speaker 3: That contract is through a lawyer, and it may not
Speaker 3: be their lawyer, But isn't that a witness you could
Speaker 3: use for a case or for something or to help
Speaker 3: you in the legal system, being like, hey, I know
Speaker 3: I signed this contract state, or I forged up or
Speaker 3: I made up this document this contract for uh.
Speaker 1: Probably the probably didn't.
Speaker 2: I don't think you can because it's I'm not saying
Speaker 2: like directly doing anything, but he's at least a witness
Speaker 2: saying hey, I'm part like I can Yeah. The most
Speaker 2: lawyer can say is yes, I wrote this. Yes, like
Speaker 2: they're going to be like.
Speaker 1: I wrote this in good faith. That's probably all the
Speaker 1: way it's.
Speaker 3: My point is is it testifies to there's a written
Speaker 3: document and a written contract to it, which means you
Speaker 3: have to acknowledge that it's a thing, right right, Yes.
Speaker 1: That is correct. I would think I would think that
Speaker 1: would be correct.
Speaker 3: But fun, let's play a fun game, because I've been
Speaker 3: playing guessing games with you guys with how immature Aiman acts.
Speaker 3: And I know you didn't necessarily get to see the video,
Speaker 3: but you've heard all about it. How old do you
Speaker 3: think this man is?
Speaker 1: Dude? He act like me? See if I can't fly
Speaker 1: saw a video of him, I was gonna guess of
Speaker 1: thirty five. I guess forty two.
Speaker 2: But he acts like a fucking mid twenties year old,
Speaker 2: dumbfuck wrong page. He has the brain of a fucking
Speaker 2: teenager right now.
Speaker 3: Like his thought process that is currently what Aimin mcneatfloks
Speaker 3: like in the most recent Ben reckless Ben video.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have not seen that video. When I saw him,
Speaker 1: he was in the hallway of headquarters.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you saw him freaking out on Ben.
Speaker 2: This This motherfucker ruins a good curly mustache for.
Speaker 1: The rest of him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna say that is that fucking snightly
Speaker 2: whiplash looking motherfucker?
Speaker 1: That is? Yeah, you call the Canadian Mounties, they'll handle it.
Speaker 1: Is he thirty five?
Speaker 4: And what did you say forty two? You were the closest.
Speaker 4: He's forty one.
Speaker 3: He does have a public birthdate, but he has a
Speaker 3: public graduation date for high school, and so eighteen years
Speaker 3: off of that would put him at nineteen eighty five
Speaker 3: of the year of birth. You'd take that from twenty
Speaker 3: twenty six as forty one. Okay, he is probably forty
Speaker 3: four then, because he got held back. That's probably why
Speaker 3: his birthday is not displayed. He took a few grades
Speaker 3: more than once. I'm assuming it started in kindergarten. I
Speaker 3: could assume you gotta be a fuck up if you're
Speaker 3: doing that in kindergarten. Uh, sir, your son has eaten
Speaker 3: more crowns than he's used to draw with.
Speaker 1: What do you instantly have to attack my arm? She's hyper,
Speaker 1: she's something, she's a minute go back to am on
Speaker 1: a Marth mcnaffy. Is that his name? Am? Amen? Amen?
Speaker 2: Mnf Amen. He's like he got kicked out of the
Speaker 2: fucking Amish. I swear one of the podcasts I listened
Speaker 2: to the Yard, that is their joke name for their
Speaker 2: friend Aiden when they're like calling him a dumb ass
Speaker 2: and ship, they call him Amen. So to hear this
Speaker 2: man actually named Amin, I'm like, man, there is a
Speaker 2: dumb ass named Amen.
Speaker 1: Can't hit back? What what Google search does Amen get?
Speaker 1: Is it just him?
Speaker 2: Probably at this point, okay, like some LinkedIn Facebook page Ship.
Speaker 2: If he was smart, his LinkedIn would be linked.
Speaker 1: To the fuck out. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I was gonna say, it's all just gonna be.
Speaker 1: Articles franchise that was one week ago.
Speaker 4: Oh this is gonna play please?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh wait a minute. Now this comes out in
Speaker 1: eighteen days, so do we do a live streaming? Oh? Fuck?
Speaker 2: This is an interview with him, which also I imagine
Speaker 2: you know this, Brad. He has went on like Fox
Speaker 2: News and Ship with all of his lies about Ben.
Speaker 1: I don't believe anything Fox News says, So I don't
Speaker 1: believe anything any of them. I don't, Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just saying, like, this is how outrageous aims being.
Speaker 1: He's fucking the only news organization i'd probably and this
Speaker 1: is only because they're bland as fuck. Is either PBS
Speaker 1: or NPR, just because they're so bland as ship. I
Speaker 1: don't know that. Like nobody gets over. If you're watching
Speaker 1: news for entertainment purposes like CNN or Fox or MSNBC,
Speaker 1: then that's not really news. I mean you're getting some
Speaker 1: information supposed to be more one sided. I was supposed
Speaker 1: to read the news. Yeah, I just read the news. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and shut up.
Speaker 4: Just this is everyone finding off.
Speaker 1: Oh this is people. Yeah, this is what I was.
Speaker 1: I am not read it. What does that say? Circle jerk? Lego,
Speaker 1: circle jerk. That's the name of the plastic bricks are
Speaker 1: dulta only real serious Lego discussions.
Speaker 3: So just so you know, and Reddit circle jerk is
Speaker 3: a term when a bunch of people are super self
Speaker 3: righteous pricks and gatekeepy about a community. So when someone
Speaker 3: makes a community like Lego circle jerk, they're making fun
Speaker 3: of those people.
Speaker 4: Oh okay, that's a subreddit. That's why the description is
Speaker 4: like that.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: Typically I could be wrong. This could be an actual
Speaker 2: circle jerk subredd.
Speaker 1: And I am just here to tell you through my
Speaker 1: findings about CEO and ninety nine percent sure excuse me
Speaker 1: that he's been sued for other shady stuff involving other
Speaker 1: business I went out, probably I don't know, yeah, legally, okay,
Speaker 1: this is about legalind this is the Supreme Court of Ohio. Uh, Dan,
Speaker 1: Who's who's Daniel mcne is his dad? I think danis
Speaker 1: his dad. Okay, I don't know how much.
Speaker 3: I saw an email down below, and I don't know
Speaker 3: how much it showed, so I was like, I'm not
Speaker 3: going too far down.
Speaker 2: I don't need it looked like it censored some of it.
Speaker 2: It's a screenshot of your email. No, oh, it's whatever's
Speaker 2: posted on this reddit account. But oh, okay, I don't
Speaker 2: need to be sharing fucking emails.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, probably because I did read.
Speaker 3: The caption said email for Amon McNeff, and I was like, no,
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna be the one that gets in trouble
Speaker 3: for this.
Speaker 1: I'll put my face on it about now reckless nick.
Speaker 1: I yeah, I know. I'm like, I'm yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: even know what to say. I'm fascinated by this. It's
Speaker 1: discouraging that, I mean void franchises. Yeah, all motherfucking costs.
Speaker 1: It's it's definitely discouraging as like a small business owner
Speaker 1: that like people even do this to other people.
Speaker 2: But like there is there were some other videos I
Speaker 2: watched of people as well that has kind of nothing
Speaker 2: to do with this, but he wanted to see how
Speaker 2: crooked the people are that appraise your bricks and stuff
Speaker 2: when you go into bricks and minifigs. So he went
Speaker 2: to several locations with a curated, like random thing of
Speaker 2: little legos and minifigs in there, but he put special
Speaker 2: legos in there and took the minifigs apart in a
Speaker 2: way that it kind of disguise it. But there was
Speaker 2: like four hundred dollars fucking minifig, a ten thousand dollars
Speaker 2: fucking gold C three po or whatever the thou dollars.
Speaker 2: I think it was like one of ten thousand ever made,
Speaker 2: and he had one, and he took it into these places,
Speaker 2: and every one of them tried to undervalue him or
Speaker 2: tell him it was something else or it wasn't wrong.
Speaker 2: One of them even took the fucking C three po
Speaker 2: after saying it was fake. It's like, I think this
Speaker 2: is a fake one. It's like you move the arms
Speaker 2: and YadA YadA. And he was pointing out all these
Speaker 2: little things that would be like this is fake. It
Speaker 2: was spray painted or YadA YadA. And then if you
Speaker 2: look at how to identify one to make sure they're accurate.
Speaker 2: Everything he pointed out that indicated it was fake was
Speaker 2: the thing that indicated it was real because of the
Speaker 2: way the plating encoding works, and like all kinds of shit,
Speaker 2: you can't get them apart because it sticks them together.
Speaker 2: Like there's so many things.
Speaker 1: There's two things that I wanted to stay away from
Speaker 1: as much as I possibly could, and Robert. Robert was
Speaker 1: such a small piece. Using the consignment for the graded comics.
Speaker 1: I really wasn't worried about that, but consignment, I wanted
Speaker 1: to stay away from consignment, Yeah, because then you're putting
Speaker 1: not only are you putting other people's products taking up
Speaker 1: your shelf space, and then when it's sold, you get
Speaker 1: such a minimal count for it. But the other thing
Speaker 1: was is that I hate I honestly, I don't care
Speaker 1: for buying stuff from people. That's why I prefer to
Speaker 1: go to groad sales, the state sales, yard sales, like
Speaker 1: antique malls, like the flea markets, fucking shit like that
Speaker 1: and get my get stuff because I hate buying stuff
Speaker 1: from somebody because I always feel like if there's a
Speaker 1: hidden gem in there, I have to tell them like
Speaker 1: that's how I feel.
Speaker 2: So here's where I get excited telling people, oh my god,
Speaker 2: I think you got the expensive word, like do you
Speaker 2: know fucking pump?
Speaker 1: I would be just like it's just like I get
Speaker 1: a hold it. It's And that's why I always start
Speaker 1: every conversation with how much do you want for it?
Speaker 1: That's exactly what I was gonna say. If someone comes
Speaker 1: to me and goes, hey, I'm looking four hundred dollars
Speaker 1: for this, I'm gonna thumb through it and if I
Speaker 1: see things worth of value. And this is as a
Speaker 1: non business owner. But even in that aspect, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: thumb through it. If I see things the value, Sure,
Speaker 1: here's four hundred dollars. But if you hand me stuff
Speaker 1: and go how much and I find a gem, I
Speaker 1: feel obligated to say I found it. Hey, dude, this
Speaker 1: is super expensive.
Speaker 3: If you pull this out, I'll buy the rest, but
Speaker 3: this is going to charge twelve hundred dollars for it.
Speaker 1: Well, what I've started to do in the last couple
Speaker 1: of times, and I've turned comic book people away because
Speaker 1: I've just got I've got so much I don't need it.
Speaker 1: But even with the card people they'll come in, I'll
Speaker 1: sift through it. Sometimes I know what I'm looking at.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I know I don't want to sell. I don't
Speaker 1: want to The last two kids that have come in
Speaker 1: with like binders full of Pokemon, I was like, I'll
Speaker 1: be honest with you, I don't know what I'm looking at.
Speaker 1: And I was like, I was like, and I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna spend all day looking up all two hundred of
Speaker 1: these cards that are in a binder. And I was like,
Speaker 1: I think some of this stuff looks like it's expensive.
Speaker 1: But like every time I think I find an expensive
Speaker 1: Pokemon card, it's worth of a dollar twenty. So like
Speaker 1: pomon I.
Speaker 3: Bitch about this is a side small side tangent I
Speaker 3: bitch about Magic and their special foilings and their special editions,
Speaker 3: Pokemon ruined it for their fucking tcg over and over
Speaker 3: and over again. First it's gonna be hollows that we
Speaker 3: care about, and then it's gonna be Vmaxes, and then
Speaker 3: it's this kind, and then it's this And every time
Speaker 3: they introduce a new type of evolution or a new
Speaker 3: special thing in the game, or if they haven't done
Speaker 3: that in the games, they just decide, we'll make a
Speaker 3: new random printing and we'll do one of them. Unlike Magic,
Speaker 3: where it's like, okay, we're doing Galaxy foil on these
Speaker 3: thirty cards, they're like, oh hey, we're doing rainbow printing
Speaker 3: on two they have the lowest pole rate.
Speaker 1: Have fun.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like fuck you.
Speaker 1: So I usually just start with what do you want
Speaker 1: out of these O day And usually they the last
Speaker 1: couple of kids have been like I'm looking for this,
Speaker 1: and I'm just like, I don't know what I'm buying,
Speaker 1: so at best I could give you this, and and
Speaker 1: they both have walked away, and I told him that
Speaker 1: was fine. I didn't want to be I didn't want to.
Speaker 4: You're doing the correct thing as a bit, honestly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, honestly, I don't know what I'm looking at, and
Speaker 1: I don't want to overpay. But I also like can
Speaker 1: respect the fact that if you know, I honestly, I
Speaker 1: send him over to level up the pokemono in town.
Speaker 1: I'm just say, hey, just go over there. That guy's
Speaker 1: gonna know exactly what he's looking at. And since he
Speaker 1: deals in like ninety eight percent Pokemon, he's it's gonna
Speaker 1: be more likely to spend more money on it than
Speaker 1: I am. Too.
Speaker 3: My brain also goes to and this is just dumb
Speaker 3: little business thing. But if you throw in there, hey,
Speaker 3: tell them I sense you. Because I don't deal with Pokemon,
Speaker 3: that gives them an idea. Oh, someone deals with magic.
Speaker 4: I don't know. Hey go over to Savini Comics.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And I think my whole point is I think ER's
Speaker 1: pretty good about that because because I do deal with magic.
Speaker 1: I mean, he he had magic for a little bit,
Speaker 1: which is fair. I mean, it'd be dumb for him
Speaker 1: to not carry some magic, just not specialize in it.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. It's kind of like me
Speaker 1: with Pokemon. I carry some I have some Pokemon where
Speaker 1: you can get just don't. I just don't specialize. Like
Speaker 1: my specialty card game at the store is Magic. It's
Speaker 1: it's always gonna be Magic. But but it'd be dumb
Speaker 1: for me not to have other card franchises in the store.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because we played more, yeah, a lot of us. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so so yeah, we try to, but there's like no
Speaker 2: fucking support where like there is. It's like all the
Speaker 2: people that play it exist in some fantasy land that's
Speaker 2: not in our town.
Speaker 3: For the issue with like I'm thinking specifically, Riftbound is
Speaker 3: like Seth and I are like me and him still
Speaker 3: have never played a game. I don't even know how
Speaker 3: the fucking game's played. I want to learn, but I
Speaker 3: don't have time anymore. Yeah, because if I do have
Speaker 3: free time to play a card game, I haven't played Magic.
Speaker 3: I haven't played a Commander game in like six fucking months. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go play a fucking Commander game. I'm not
Speaker 3: gonna go learn Riftbound, but I want to learn Riftbound, right,
Speaker 3: I've tried.
Speaker 2: To learn a little bit, but I do It's kind
Speaker 2: of hard to learn a new card game any fucking more. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I put so much brain power on magic.
Speaker 3: And that's also my issue is I try to correlate
Speaker 3: everything to magic, and then when it doesn't click, I
Speaker 3: lose everything I could. I could like there, I could
Speaker 3: put three pieces in a row of a puzzle together,
Speaker 3: but if I can't find that fourth, it's like I
Speaker 3: didn't put.
Speaker 1: The other three there.
Speaker 2: Immediately, all the knowledge is like, I don't know what
Speaker 2: I don't know how this game works anymore.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Rick, Now Rick does to get back to consignment.
Speaker 1: Rick does consignment down at his store, and uh, I
Speaker 1: think it goes. I don't know that he does a
Speaker 1: lot of it, but I I think he also keeps
Speaker 1: it to certain people. I don't think that's everybody, kind
Speaker 1: of like me and the robed situation. Like I think
Speaker 1: he keeps it to certain people, but he's just like, hey, listen,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw this on eBay for you, and like
Speaker 1: if it sells great. If it doesn't, then I completely
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't control it. Your shit doesn't sell
Speaker 1: your shit, so like you know so, but yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: like I said, I I don't like doing that, Like
Speaker 1: totally different wave base or way of thinking for me
Speaker 1: is like the trades that we did in the story yesterday. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like you magic guys, I will I will make trades
Speaker 1: for in source stuff all at all the time because
Speaker 1: it's you guys, and I know that, like the goal
Speaker 1: with both of us is to win. It is for
Speaker 1: both the yea come out ahead.
Speaker 4: Yeah we had a pretty that was a fun one.
Speaker 4: Yeah so so yeah, so that's honestly, and it's the
Speaker 4: same thing.
Speaker 3: I equivalate it more at card shows because at least
Speaker 3: I see it more at like conventions or card shows.
Speaker 3: But I know Kingdom, I've seen it happen a handful
Speaker 3: of times. But I I enjoy trading cards with stores
Speaker 3: rather than hey can I sell this to you?
Speaker 2: Or can I get can I get store profits or
Speaker 2: store credits so I can buy this and fuck all that.
Speaker 1: A guy came in to buy that one hundred dollars Pokemon.
Speaker 1: I had a Pokemon for one hundred dollars on TCG player.
Speaker 1: Meant it's it's like a thousand dollars card, but it
Speaker 1: was not meant it was beat up. And he came
Speaker 1: in and he was like, he said, can I hey,
Speaker 1: can Can you take this out of the sleeve and
Speaker 1: I said yeah, and he held it and he looked
Speaker 1: at it and he's like, well, it's not not as
Speaker 1: beat up as Honestly, it's not as beat up as
Speaker 1: I thought it was.
Speaker 2: And I was like okay, and uh.
Speaker 1: But he was looking to see if it was fake
Speaker 1: because it was some rare card that blah blah blah.
Speaker 3: But he's like, this is real, and I was like, god,
Speaker 3: I hope. So I was like, and I can get
Speaker 3: one from work. Actually I don't even have to go
Speaker 3: to work. So they're like five bucks, but a jeweler's
Speaker 3: gemfying gem because if if you ever get to the
Speaker 3: point where you're selling or buying an expensive magic card specifically,
Speaker 3: one of the telltale signs is if you look at
Speaker 3: the back, a green dot tist.
Speaker 4: Yes, the green dot it has a what is it?
Speaker 2: It's the way the dots line up with each other,
Speaker 2: like there's a specific man, but yeah, there's a specific.
Speaker 1: He looked at it, but he was like this is real,
Speaker 1: and I said yeah, and then he goes, uh, He's like,
Speaker 1: I'll trade you these two pokemon for that one. And
Speaker 1: I looked him up on TCG and I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: sounds fair. That's been sitting These are lower priced two cards.
Speaker 1: I might get rid of these a little quicker. Mostly
Speaker 1: kids and not adults look at the pogum on anyway,
Speaker 1: So I took him and then he's like, man, I
Speaker 1: really like that other card sitting there, and he had
Speaker 1: a whole stack in his hand, and I said, I said,
Speaker 1: he goes, will you take these three for that one?
Speaker 1: And I looked them up and we were both winning.
Speaker 1: And again I was getting three lower priced cards for
Speaker 1: a higher price cards, and I was like yeah, So
Speaker 1: I mean I ended up with like I mean, I
Speaker 1: know price value. He came out ahead, but I also
Speaker 1: know that I'm going to be able to sell the
Speaker 1: cards that he gave me quicker because they're lower priced.
Speaker 4: So I was all for it.
Speaker 1: He was happy when he left, he said he'd be back.
Speaker 1: I was happy when he left because I had cards
Speaker 1: that I thought I'd be able to sell a little
Speaker 1: bit easier. And yeah, I mean, I don't mind. I
Speaker 1: ain't doing that at all.
Speaker 3: So that's what I was talking about. The Uh, there's
Speaker 3: red dots. I wanted to say red, but there's a
Speaker 3: certain formation the red dots go inside of the green
Speaker 3: symbol that verify.
Speaker 1: That it's real. Okay, it looks like the black dots
Speaker 1: are bigger and darker.
Speaker 2: It's the order at which it's printed, because the black
Speaker 2: dots go on after the red unreal ones, and a
Speaker 2: lot of times the red goes down after on the
Speaker 2: fake ones. So that's what makes that fucking The black
Speaker 2: was printed before everything else. I think magic cards are
Speaker 2: printed where black's like the last color on the card
Speaker 2: because counterfeitters are trying to guarantee the red the red shows,
Speaker 2: so they put it last, like and like he said,
Speaker 2: people that know magic, yeah, I can't fucking do it,
Speaker 2: but they can somehow look at that fucking and obviously
Speaker 2: sometimes it's obvious if it's overlapping, but they can look
Speaker 2: at it and be like, nah, that wasn't printed in
Speaker 2: the right order, Like how the fuck the size of
Speaker 2: the lighter green dots as well, because that's another one
Speaker 2: where like the actual printing process is the fake ones
Speaker 2: are putting green dots on like dark green dots on instead.
Speaker 1: Of the other way.
Speaker 2: It's just the other thing, I mean technology that people
Speaker 2: don't have access to for printing. I don't know if
Speaker 2: this is consistent, but on this real one there's like
Speaker 2: a plus with the light ones and then all the
Speaker 2: other ones. It's just an amorphous blob. Yeah yeah, yeah, well,
Speaker 2: and I'm sorry you brought up the verification. And it's
Speaker 2: something I see people do all the time, and it
Speaker 2: likes fucking sparked.
Speaker 1: It's the first time i'd had anybody come in And
Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, like, if you would have told me
Speaker 1: it was fake, I would have just ripped up and
Speaker 1: thrown it away, Like I didn't know whether or not
Speaker 1: it was real or fake. I didn't even like I
Speaker 1: didn't even think about it, Like I would have apologized
Speaker 1: to him.
Speaker 2: And see those spots get up and thrown it away.
Speaker 2: That shit gets awkward, and I've witnessed it once in
Speaker 2: real life and it's nothing bad because no one knew
Speaker 2: one way or the other. But uh, one of my
Speaker 2: buddies went to Kingdom and was selling a bunch of cards,
Speaker 2: expensive cards, and there was the Liliana vess that's big
Speaker 2: and modern. He had one of those that he had
Speaker 2: bought a long time ago and it was up to
Speaker 2: like one hundred and twenty bucks. So he went to
Speaker 2: sell it and when Jason was first looking at it,
Speaker 2: he was like, yo, seventy percent or whatever the fucking
Speaker 2: percentage was, and then he started looking at some of
Speaker 2: the more expensive cards, saw the Liliana and looked up
Speaker 2: at my buddy Tyler Whitehead. It was like, I don't
Speaker 2: want to be mean because I don't know how you
Speaker 2: got this card, but I'm like ninety five percent sure
Speaker 2: this is fake. And it just becomes this awkward moment
Speaker 2: because it's like if the guy's not like so obviously
Speaker 2: I know Tyler, he's like, ah, I bought that off
Speaker 2: Facebook five years ago.
Speaker 4: I couldn't find I didn't open it. I can tell
Speaker 4: you that much. But he's like, I've played with it enough.
Speaker 4: I thought it was real.
Speaker 2: It looked real, it felt real, and you just end
Speaker 2: up in this weird limbo and I hate seeing it.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, like I said, I would have he would
Speaker 1: have said, dude, this is fake. I would have went, uh, okay,
Speaker 1: tell me how, Like what do you see that's fake?
Speaker 1: And then hopefully he would have been like this, this
Speaker 1: and this, and then I was apologized to him, and
Speaker 1: then he would have left. I would have googled what
Speaker 1: he said if he was right, I were ripped up
Speaker 1: run away. I mean, I didn't open it. I don't
Speaker 1: even know where I got it from. I don't even
Speaker 1: know where I got it from. You probably, of like
Speaker 1: five thousand Pokemon that I bought when I first opened
Speaker 1: the store, Yeah, probably, it probably came out of that
Speaker 1: toe and I like, so, I mean, I wouldn't have
Speaker 1: known one way or the other. Yeah, But I mean
Speaker 1: that's not the first thing I look for when I'm
Speaker 1: going through Pokemon cards is whether or not it's real
Speaker 1: or fake.
Speaker 2: But you also don't, not that you aren't willing to,
Speaker 2: but you just don't deal with a lot of super
Speaker 2: expensive cards where it's worth the investment of I need
Speaker 2: to know if this is.
Speaker 1: Really fake, correct, Because with the exception of I'm more
Speaker 1: likely to sell an expensive card on TCG player because
Speaker 1: the people that are coming into my store are there
Speaker 1: to buy stuff that may end up costing them a
Speaker 1: couple one hundred dollars, but they're gonna buy it at
Speaker 1: fifty dollars intervals. Does that make sense? Like they're like
Speaker 1: they're gonna buy more than like fifty dollars worth of
Speaker 1: one prop like.
Speaker 3: I will, I will put it bluntly, while being nice
Speaker 3: and this is nothing to anybody, But we are a
Speaker 3: poorer town like we are a big city. You're not
Speaker 3: gonna have people that are dropping coming in and dropping
Speaker 3: eight hundred dollars on a fucking single.
Speaker 1: Somebody will come into this or and by the Marvel
Speaker 1: Superhero Collector boosters are forty dollars a pack. They'll spend
Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty dollars on three packs, but if
Speaker 1: they were one hundred and twenty dollars a pack, they
Speaker 1: wouldn't buy it.
Speaker 2: Or this single that costs one hundred and twenty dollars
Speaker 2: is sitting on your rack, they're not gonna buy it.
Speaker 1: They'll buy They'll buy one hundred and twenty dollars worth
Speaker 1: of packs trying to get the single that's on your rack.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, right, And that's also just to be me.
Speaker 2: That is also partially Magic's mentality. Like our player base
Speaker 2: is a gambling player base.
Speaker 1: It's the rush open. Sometimes it's the rush opening, and
Speaker 1: you're getting more for your money with one hundred dollars
Speaker 1: because you getting older, Yeah, and you can trade sell.
Speaker 1: That's why it's more likely that that one hundred and
Speaker 1: twenty dollars card. While I'll put it up on my rack.
Speaker 1: I am putting it on TCG player because it's more
Speaker 1: likely to sell on TCG. Yeah, like that's just it is.
Speaker 1: It just is what it is. You know. I had two,
Speaker 1: two three people yesterday come in and look at my
Speaker 1: bobby with on card auto that I pulled and they
Speaker 1: were like, dude, that is sweet. And I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a nice and like they looked at it, said
Speaker 1: it was awesome. There was no way they were ever
Speaker 1: gonna pay the two hundred and twenty five dollars. Ah,
Speaker 1: it was and they will and they walked out. But
Speaker 1: I got it on eBay right now for two hundred
Speaker 1: and twenty five dollars. I got seventy I'm up over
Speaker 1: eighty views and there's like fifteen people watching it. So
Speaker 1: I mean, I know it's gonna sell. I might have
Speaker 1: to drop the price down to two hundred at some point,
Speaker 1: but but I know it's gonna I know it's gonna
Speaker 1: sell at some point. So speaking of selling, and I
Speaker 1: just popped into my head while I was talking about this,
Speaker 1: and we may want to we want to do this
Speaker 1: for uh where time? What time are we at?
Speaker 4: Fifty eight minutes Okay, So I'll.
Speaker 1: Say this real quick because it reminded me because I
Speaker 1: was like, I probably shouldn't have said that I was
Speaker 1: going to drop the price because I don't know how
Speaker 1: many people shop the store on eBay and also listen
Speaker 1: to the podcast. But you know who is listening to
Speaker 1: the podcast. Clay is listening to the podcast. And you
Speaker 1: know why I bring up Clay because we're.
Speaker 4: Ow Dan Housen section No.
Speaker 1: Because we have a force of will to give away
Speaker 1: because I think we're at six hundred subscribers. Let me look,
Speaker 1: and even though I teased them that we were going
Speaker 1: to wait until we were at six hundred and sixty six,
Speaker 1: we've also forgotten about Clay and we should have given
Speaker 1: this away like like two hundred subscribers ago, at least
Speaker 1: I forgot about it.
Speaker 3: I did not, but I did not know what the
Speaker 3: agreement was. But this is a call out for the
Speaker 3: people watching the last forty five seconds. We need three subscribers.
Speaker 1: Three. Well, we're at five ninety seven. Yes, okay, all right,
Speaker 1: so so this is how we're gonna end this podcast
Speaker 1: and hopefully when we get to six hundred, so we'll
Speaker 1: spend the last five minutes making them five ten minutes,
Speaker 1: making them listen to how we're going to do this
Speaker 1: because we haven't talked about this off screen or on screen,
Speaker 1: so we're gonna do it right now. How do we
Speaker 1: give it away? Do we put do we? Is there
Speaker 1: a way to download our subscribers into like an Excel
Speaker 1: spreadsheet and make like a spin wheel? And so that's
Speaker 1: what I do. Well, you know, I don't think we
Speaker 1: do it by subscribers. We make them.
Speaker 2: Engage, give them so much time to comment on this video,
Speaker 2: so now they know they have to comment since they
Speaker 2: listen to the whole thing. Okay, all right, Hey, we
Speaker 2: could also have a random codeword sprinkled in the middle
Speaker 2: of the episode somewhere. You just make LEVI cut in
Speaker 2: like a commercial, and we'll just come up with a
Speaker 2: ran and word that they have to comment. So not
Speaker 2: only will they have to, like, they will just see
Speaker 2: a random cut in of an absurd word, and they
Speaker 2: won't realize that they need to remember what the fuck
Speaker 2: that word is until right now.
Speaker 1: Morphobia that that is.
Speaker 2: That is a great way to do that.
Speaker 1: That's a great way to.
Speaker 2: Do Honestly, I like that because yeah, yeah, yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: So what we'll do well, it's not outside.
Speaker 1: Of this episode.
Speaker 3: We'll discuss the word for me to cut in where
Speaker 3: Brad said now, and then on the next episode, and
Speaker 3: however many following weeks we want, however long we want
Speaker 3: to run it, we just tell everyone that started that episode, Hey,
Speaker 3: go back to this episode, watch all the way through.
Speaker 1: Well, we don't want to.
Speaker 2: We wanted to all be inclusive on this episode. So
Speaker 2: you're not chasing all of it. You can't make it
Speaker 2: too hard. It's six hundred people.
Speaker 3: I mean, well, no, no, no, I'm saying it's all.
Speaker 3: It all has to do with this episode right here,
Speaker 3: right now. But I'm saying to promote it before the
Speaker 3: contest ends at the start of the next However, many episodes,
Speaker 3: we say, hey, go back to this episode where we're
Speaker 3: at right, Oh yeah, go.
Speaker 1: Back and watch this.
Speaker 2: We're given something away. We're giving something away. Listen for
Speaker 2: the secret word. And then they have to listen for
Speaker 2: the secret which means they have to listen the entire time. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and obviously we know and they know now.
Speaker 4: That they've listened this long.
Speaker 1: It was at the end. I'm gonna.
Speaker 2: But I think that's a perfect idea. Yeah, I just
Speaker 2: have to write it down and I'll just have to
Speaker 2: voice over myself saying.
Speaker 1: Whatever the word is. And then so when we get
Speaker 1: to six hundred subscribers, and I'll start and we're doing
Speaker 1: this on camera, so everybody we'll start the next episode with,
Speaker 1: don't forget to pay attention to when we get six
Speaker 1: hundred subscribers, because we're gonna have something that we need
Speaker 1: you guys to do, because the winner or the first
Speaker 1: person to do that gets a magic the gathering force
Speaker 1: of will out of.
Speaker 3: The secrets mister Archive. Yeah, so let me do we
Speaker 3: Is it just the force of will from the mistal Archive?
Speaker 3: No foil, no nothing.
Speaker 2: Wait, I don't know. I was trying to look at
Speaker 2: what the longest word is and it nineteen letters and
Speaker 2: it takes three hours to pronounce, so uh, you have
Speaker 2: you have to spell it correctly now, So I.
Speaker 1: Look for the video that's four hours long and you'll
Speaker 1: find the word. That's the one he's given. Mister I'm donated.
Speaker 1: It was donated by Clay.
Speaker 4: By one wonderful Clay.
Speaker 1: Yes, by our wonderful Clay. And so yeah, so we
Speaker 1: will give when we hit six hundred subscribers, we will
Speaker 1: give that Force of Will away and I just wanted
Speaker 1: to show them and you'll have to. You'll have to,
Speaker 1: you know, go buy the parameters that we that we
Speaker 1: set once we hit six hundred subscribers, and maybe even
Speaker 1: we have like when we finally hit it, we begin
Speaker 1: an episode where it's just like that way, we don't
Speaker 1: all have to meet together. Maybe it's just me going
Speaker 1: we just hit six hundred subscribers. Make sure to watch
Speaker 1: this episode for details on the Force of Will sweep stakes.
Speaker 1: Or we could do that for We could even do
Speaker 1: that for our YouTube shorts, our TikTok or Facebook page
Speaker 1: or something, right, we could do that now in between
Speaker 1: in between apings. I got a pee where it's all
Speaker 1: of us. So so anyway, all right, so yeah, I
Speaker 1: think we're at now or something right hour and four. Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, this has been poops and pieces. Yeah, this
Speaker 1: has been rebranding. It's been a good episode. I enjoyed
Speaker 1: the discussion about the thing, and now we have to
Speaker 1: now we yeah, like bricks and bricks and minifigs, don't
Speaker 1: go in and arrest the story owners. They didn't do anything.
Speaker 1: Brick by brick, just stop going, yeah, just stop going,
Speaker 1: Just stop curling break up that. I hate that for
Speaker 1: the store owners and the franchisees. Obviously, obviously Aimon is
Speaker 1: a douchebag with a bad handlebar mustache. Yeah, and he
Speaker 1: should not get any credit or any more money. And
Speaker 1: he can.
Speaker 2: He can, like my taint, I figure if he looked
Speaker 2: like a wild West outlaw in the wild West, he
Speaker 2: thought he could just do whatever he wanted.
Speaker 1: Maybe must it, Maybe that's it. He is somebody's Huckleberry. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Bubba Bubba's Huckleberry's big old Bubba in prison. So okay,
Speaker 1: So this is about like, share, subscribe, do all that
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