Speaker 1: You see somethings going to happen.
Speaker 2: But what's going to happen?
Speaker 3: I'll take.
Speaker 2: What help.
Speaker 1: Welcome to the Occult Rejects. This episode, I got a
Speaker 1: very special guest, somebody had the pleasure of meeting. Uh yeah,
Speaker 1: I got to meet the person before they even came
Speaker 1: on the show, which is nice. It's a little different.
Speaker 1: I already know the guy's not crazy, so it felt
Speaker 1: comfortable having them all so and he definitely we definitely
Speaker 1: hit it off real well. Actually we you know, became
Speaker 1: kind of I guess both booth buddies real quick, and
Speaker 1: we both shared some common interests. And he is in
Speaker 1: the paranormal and he's got a really interesting place that
Speaker 1: he took a look at that I think actually fits
Speaker 1: this show perfectly. So before we introduce Eric and introduce
Speaker 1: the other rejects with me and we got my man,
Speaker 1: the Headless Giant. What is going on, sir?
Speaker 2: How are you?
Speaker 4: How you doing? I'm the Headless Giant. You can find
Speaker 4: me on YouTube or on Twitter and Instagram at the
Speaker 4: Headless Giant podcast. And also if you have any sort
Speaker 4: of interesting paranormal stories, like we're gonna be talking about tonight,
Speaker 4: about anything you can send them to my email at
Speaker 4: the Headless Giant Podcast at gmail dot com and we
Speaker 4: will read those out on Thursdays. And also i have
Speaker 4: a show with Ethan on Sundays called the Trialogus, and
Speaker 4: I'm doing a series on the rustic gods of Greece
Speaker 4: with Jewels usually on Fridays. And now I've got Alchemy Monday.
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Speaker 1: Ad Yes, definitely if you say than any stories please, Yeah,
Speaker 1: let people put in your information and I'll send out
Speaker 1: some stickers for you if you want to maild out.
Speaker 1: So there's an incentive to send in your story. I'll
Speaker 1: send you out eight. You know, very much like the magician,
Speaker 1: keep it magical. Look at eight stickers and yeah, just
Speaker 1: a reminder going forward to I got to look at
Speaker 1: the calendar. Actually, I can probably talk to you about
Speaker 1: it tomorrow Headless we can set up a date hopefully
Speaker 1: middle of October. We will start going through seven seven seven.
Speaker 1: Alista Crowley's book seven seven seven is basically the Bible,
Speaker 1: basically the Bible of Rituals and symbolism and all tons
Speaker 1: and tons of stuff, and it should definitely spur a
Speaker 1: lot of I guess, banter and probably self experience and
Speaker 1: whatever throughout the book, some of it at least, so
Speaker 1: it should be interesting. And yeah, that's it out of
Speaker 1: me and Ethan, my man, Ethan indigo. What is going on, sir?
Speaker 1: How are you? And thank you for making.
Speaker 5: It honored to be here with you, guys. I always
Speaker 5: learned so much from Nick and Hudless and Rick. Excuse me, Eric,
Speaker 5: I know this is going to be this is going
Speaker 5: to be dope. Thank you for bringing your presentation easy
Speaker 5: to find online right frequently. And yeah, like Heedless said
Speaker 5: on Sundays, we did the trialogue and I got a
Speaker 5: few books on Amazon too, So definitely appreciate everyone's support.
Speaker 1: No, thank you very much. And uh, finally the guests himself.
Speaker 1: We got Eric from the Haunted Files. What is going on, sir?
Speaker 1: Please let everybody know what you're doing.
Speaker 2: Damn sticker.
Speaker 1: Oh you should have taken them. They were all over
Speaker 1: the table. You probably thought you had to pay for them, right,
Speaker 1: he felt bad. I'll send him out to you after the.
Speaker 6: Show, Okay, Hell yeah, I'll plaster them all over my
Speaker 6: equipment box.
Speaker 1: They maybe I'll send you a shirt to think about that.
Speaker 6: In a crazy like someone to come on your show
Speaker 6: and starts singing azzy.
Speaker 2: I don't know. We're going to find out if I'm
Speaker 2: crazy after the show, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, if you're crazy, idea like my type of crazy,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 6: But anyway, I'm Eric Vanderlan. I have a show called
Speaker 6: The Haunted Files on paraflex. It's the most futurew streaming
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Speaker 6: have it on your smart TV, YouTube, I'm not YouTube, Roku,
Speaker 6: Apple TV, all those, all those streaming platforms. You can
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Speaker 6: we do have a discount code which is the Haunted
Speaker 6: Files twenty five and you'll get twenty five percent off
Speaker 6: at the annual rate. And we're not the only show.
Speaker 6: There's a kind of amazing shows there. And we do
Speaker 6: have an episode that we're going to talk about tonight
Speaker 6: of a place that I've quit it but tied to
Speaker 6: mister Crowley in a way, yeah, Alistair Crowley.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Oh, and by the.
Speaker 6: Way, you can find me on Facebook as Eric Vanderlain,
Speaker 6: on Instagram as ghost Hunters of South Florida and I
Speaker 6: have a podcast live every Monday night, but it will
Speaker 6: be we're rebranding it, so we're going to be launching
Speaker 6: it next week called The Hunted Files.
Speaker 2: I'm like, so shut up.
Speaker 6: And I'll also stream on Facebook as well, the Hunted
Speaker 6: Files Facebook page.
Speaker 1: Awesome, Yes, and hopefully not put him on the spot,
Speaker 1: but I mean he's already told me. But I should
Speaker 1: be appearing on that show at some point, so definitely
Speaker 1: check it out. So check it out for that And
Speaker 1: uh yeah, Eric, before we even get into the spot
Speaker 1: that you went to, I guess kind of like with
Speaker 1: everybody with the paranormal, I always ask what was it
Speaker 1: they got you into the paranormal to begin with?
Speaker 6: Well, I actually got into this as being skep goal.
Speaker 6: That's pretty funny. I used to like when ghost Hunters
Speaker 6: came out, like I don't know, like twenty years ago,
Speaker 6: like that was like my favorite show. Like even when
Speaker 6: they like would go and investigate the place a place
Speaker 6: and they would say, like, you know, after researching it,
Speaker 6: you know, we determined that it's not it's not hanted.
Speaker 6: So yeah, that's what got me into it, and it
Speaker 6: was like more the locations and like things that were
Speaker 6: happening and they were getting and I was like, man,
Speaker 6: I would because I've always been into the unknown. I'm
Speaker 6: pretty old, so I used to like be watch like
Speaker 6: In Search of and all those shows, and yeah, So
Speaker 6: like I'm in South Florida, So we got some pretty
Speaker 6: crazy shit here. We have Saint Augustine, which is the
Speaker 6: oldest city in the US and probably one of the
Speaker 6: most haunted cities in the US.
Speaker 2: You got Saint No, you got Key West.
Speaker 6: In Spanish it's sky Away so, which in English means
Speaker 6: island of the Bones.
Speaker 2: That's how the Spanish discovered it. Key West was a burial.
Speaker 6: Site for the Tequesta, the Clusa Indians, so when they
Speaker 6: discovered there were bones all over the place, so super active.
Speaker 6: So I like, I don't know, maybe like about fifteen
Speaker 6: years ago, I just started dabbling into it on my own.
Speaker 2: I started going on ghost hunting tours and stuff.
Speaker 6: Like that, and then I joined up with the team
Speaker 6: in Miami and was with them for about three years.
Speaker 6: And then after that I went to War Party Paranormal
Speaker 6: and created the War Party Paranormal South team that blew
Speaker 6: up and no longer with the War parties just focusing
Speaker 6: on the haunted files, but I also do interactive events
Speaker 6: down in South Florida at historical haunted locations where people
Speaker 6: can you know, get to investigate hands on with all
Speaker 6: the whipment and everything.
Speaker 2: And I've been doing a lot of them. I mean
Speaker 2: I think I did.
Speaker 6: I've done fifteen already just at one location at the
Speaker 6: Daring Estate. I go there tomorrow night and Thursday night,
Speaker 6: but that's considered the most haunted location in Miami, and
Speaker 6: that place never gets old, and that location is the
Speaker 6: location that got like started everything for me. So yeah,
Speaker 6: And it was funny because like when I first got
Speaker 6: into the paranormal, it was like all about the equipment,
Speaker 6: trying to get evidence, wanting to know where the hotspots
Speaker 6: were setting my equipment wasn't getting shit, getting frustrated, and
Speaker 6: then when I went then when I went to the
Speaker 6: last team, they're a very eclectic group.
Speaker 2: We have psychic mediums, we have wickends.
Speaker 6: We had a pastor Reka master, and they all taught
Speaker 6: me little things that I incorporated, but mainly it's like
Speaker 6: your most important tool. It's not the equipment, it's your brain.
Speaker 6: And when you go into a lotion, you got to
Speaker 6: open up your mind and like, even like the subtleties
Speaker 6: you may think might be coincidental coincidental may not be
Speaker 6: because your mind is trying to rationalize things.
Speaker 2: So that's what I do now.
Speaker 6: I open my mind and it's almost like to a
Speaker 6: point where like I don't want to say like I'm
Speaker 6: intuitive or anything like that. Everyone has that. They just
Speaker 6: have levels of it. Most people don't are very low.
Speaker 6: But if you can, you can work on it and
Speaker 6: get it stronger. And that's what happened to me. So
Speaker 6: when I go to a location, I don't know why,
Speaker 6: but I follow whatever pulls me to a spot.
Speaker 2: Like gut feeling.
Speaker 6: I don't know what you call it, but like it
Speaker 6: just like when I walk into one room and I'm like, okay,
Speaker 6: something like a light bulb bring lights off, and I'm like,
Speaker 6: this is where I need to investigate and are toppy.
Speaker 4: Male ghost hunters are all equipped with their own dowsing rods,
Speaker 4: so it's not hard for us to find the right
Speaker 4: way to go right right.
Speaker 6: No, I do use dowsing rods. I use old school methods,
Speaker 6: news school.
Speaker 1: Your muted dowsing rods. I saw there was finally really
Speaker 1: got to see some Well, oh that's right. I watched
Speaker 1: Brook use them. Brook and somebody else had them with
Speaker 1: them the day before I met you. But even when
Speaker 1: I was at this last event, the leading next to
Speaker 1: me was actually like that was like kind of one
Speaker 1: of her gigs and she was even like selling them.
Speaker 1: But yeah, like that was her thing. Like whenever people
Speaker 1: sat down with her, like she was using those, she.
Speaker 2: Was pretty impressed.
Speaker 6: Stuff on douching rods. It's like when I do them,
Speaker 6: like at certain locations, like the dinnering is staated for example,
Speaker 6: it's crazy.
Speaker 2: Like I'll give like a perfect example. I always ask.
Speaker 6: Who doesn't believe in the paranormal, and I like always
Speaker 6: pick on them. So I'm doing a dowsing rods session
Speaker 6: and I got a spirit box going on, and I'm like,
Speaker 6: can you point both rode directly to the person that
Speaker 6: doesn't believe in spirits? And that points to the guy,
Speaker 6: and then I'm like, tell me what his name is?
Speaker 6: Spirit box is Alex?
Speaker 2: That was his name all in the same.
Speaker 6: It was pretty wild, and he was like, yeah, that's
Speaker 6: bugged out.
Speaker 4: Didn't change his mind.
Speaker 2: To what bit did it? Maybe I don't know.
Speaker 6: It's like it's like with me, like something crazy would happened,
Speaker 6: but I won't believe it because I'm like, God, there's
Speaker 6: got to be a reason for it.
Speaker 2: But then it takes me, like I don't know, like
Speaker 2: a day or so I'm like, damn, that shit really did.
Speaker 1: Happen, right that I've even thought of that too, with
Speaker 1: certain experiences I had, Like when it happened, I was
Speaker 1: just like I'll think about this tomorrow.
Speaker 6: No me, I'm like trying to find an answer. I'm like,
Speaker 6: there's got to be an explanation for this, right, But
Speaker 6: the location we're going to talk about, and I mean
Speaker 6: we got some crazy stuff from there, I mean to
Speaker 6: the point where like we were like, Okay, we gotta
Speaker 6: cut it and we gotta leave because it was just
Speaker 6: getting too much, like seriously, like being serious about it.
Speaker 6: Like it got to the point where like we're like, Okay,
Speaker 6: things are getting like a little weird and we gotta
Speaker 6: leave because things happened, like along the way, even like
Speaker 6: things started happening.
Speaker 2: Should I start talking about it?
Speaker 1: Well, well, well, actually, real quick, just what kind of
Speaker 1: equipment did you bring with you for this?
Speaker 2: Do you?
Speaker 1: Guys?
Speaker 6: So of course we were filming, so we had our cameras
Speaker 6: night vision as well.
Speaker 2: We have thermal cameras.
Speaker 6: We definitely need thermal cameras because this location is a
Speaker 6: prime location for python hunters. Yeah, in South Florida, we
Speaker 6: got a big python epidemic in the Everglades.
Speaker 2: So anyway, so yeah, we definitely needed therm.
Speaker 6: Well, we try to get there when it's light because
Speaker 6: we've got to check out the place to.
Speaker 2: Make sure we don't have any surprises that night.
Speaker 6: We got recorders because we're doing EVP sessions trying to
Speaker 6: get electronic voice phenomenon.
Speaker 2: We have data.
Speaker 6: Loggers that you know, they're going to measure changes in
Speaker 6: the atmosphere like temperature, EMF, humidity, pressure, even vibration.
Speaker 2: We had spirit boxes.
Speaker 6: That you know, if people don't understand what that is,
Speaker 6: they sweep it's like a it's a radio and it
Speaker 6: automatically sweeps to the stations and you hear the light
Speaker 6: noise and they say spirits can communicate through.
Speaker 2: That among other devices, and.
Speaker 6: That's that we could put on a backpack, like between
Speaker 6: the four of us that one there.
Speaker 1: It's awesome. It sounds like a lot of shit. Yep, nice,
Speaker 1: Do you want me to play the trailer before we
Speaker 1: before we talk about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that would like the people a visual what the
Speaker 2: place is like deep in the Florida Everglades.
Speaker 3: It's a one secret NASA contracted rocket test facility built
Speaker 3: in nineteen sixty three for the sole purpose of testing
Speaker 3: different types of rocket fuels to watch astronauts to now
Speaker 3: a hotspot for urban explorers and local python hunters. This
Speaker 3: facility is also still being used for satanic warship and
Speaker 3: a cool practices.
Speaker 6: We found actually like probably about a fifty foot pentagram,
Speaker 6: red spray painted pentagram.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that room. There's so many upside down crosses.
Speaker 6: In the middle of the pentagram was a three leggage
Speaker 6: chair and at the base of.
Speaker 2: That chair was what looked like a pretty large blood stain.
Speaker 2: What's the odds of this thing?
Speaker 3: Saying that same scene when we're here specifically looking to
Speaker 3: see if there's anything dark here to confirm what the
Speaker 3: python hunters found.
Speaker 2: It was a mud I got it on here.
Speaker 1: I heard that too, Yeah, I was pretty serious.
Speaker 2: It was due. It's just wild.
Speaker 4: That was the most bargain based metadelphic oracle I had
Speaker 4: ever seen. They got the three leg stool right in
Speaker 4: the middle of the uh pedagram with a bunch of
Speaker 4: pythons around.
Speaker 6: So come on, and you know what, that's not the
Speaker 6: only building where they're doing shit. I found another building
Speaker 6: because this is a big complex and it's spread out
Speaker 6: all over the place because they were firing the rocket
Speaker 6: engines out there in the Everglades. It was its massive
Speaker 6: and it's like all like it looks up hot ecalyptic.
Speaker 6: It's all overgrown and everything. So there's an other one,
Speaker 6: maybe like maybe like a quarter of a mile away
Speaker 6: from that building or I walked in and I don't know.
Speaker 6: I'm from South Florida, so we got a lot of
Speaker 6: different cultures down here, and people practice a lot of
Speaker 6: weird shit here. I don't know if they were practicing
Speaker 6: some type of santoria or black magic or voodoo.
Speaker 2: But it was the weirdest thing I've ever seen.
Speaker 6: You know what beanie babies are, right Well, there were
Speaker 6: like I don't know, maybe eight dora to explore beanie
Speaker 6: babies in this one building, but they were strategically placed
Speaker 6: in different spots. It was really weird, Like why would
Speaker 6: someone go three miles out into the Everglades and the
Speaker 6: only way to get there is by foot or bike
Speaker 6: just to do that, right, Yeah, I mean people have
Speaker 6: found bodies from people that were missing, on dead bodies.
Speaker 6: We've heard there's somebody voices there. Maybe like three months
Speaker 6: ago they found another body out there. It's a perfect
Speaker 6: spot to like dumple body. It's crazy.
Speaker 1: So, like, I guess, so what was it like? Like
Speaker 1: kind of like me if you don't mind, maybe even
Speaker 1: take us through, Like as you were pulling up to
Speaker 1: the place, like was there any like how was did
Speaker 1: that even feel like ominous or anything?
Speaker 6: Well, this is what's crazy and talking about like nothing's
Speaker 6: I Sometimes I don't think a lot of things are
Speaker 6: y are coincidental. So we've been planning to do this
Speaker 6: trip because South Florida it gets really hot and if
Speaker 6: you're in the middle of the Everglades, you don't realize
Speaker 6: how bad the bugs are.
Speaker 2: It gets so freaking buggy.
Speaker 6: Like I got one episode where you can just see
Speaker 6: we're in IR video and an IR and you can
Speaker 6: night vision. You can see like swarms of mosquitoes going
Speaker 6: over my head. So we always try to do it
Speaker 6: on cool months and we don't get a lot of
Speaker 6: them down here in South Florida. So we planned a
Speaker 6: time to go there and Mike, my partner, and we
Speaker 6: had this other guy, Joe and my girlfriend Franny with us. Now,
Speaker 6: Frandie and I are smart, you know, we take our bikes,
Speaker 6: but Joe and Mike they're lazy. They like to take
Speaker 6: electric scooters and they got to be fully charged. I mean,
Speaker 6: there was a time we went there before and Mike
Speaker 6: like was just pushing it to the limit and ended
Speaker 6: up running out of juice and had to walk the
Speaker 6: thing for a couple of miles back.
Speaker 2: And those things are pretty heavy. So anyway, when we
Speaker 2: tried to make that.
Speaker 6: First attempt to film this location, Mike had like it
Speaker 6: was like pretty much a brand new scooter.
Speaker 2: He had checked it out. He never had a problem
Speaker 2: with it.
Speaker 6: It completely was dead when we were there, so it
Speaker 6: was like like I felt like it was almost like
Speaker 6: a sign like someone didn't want to want us.
Speaker 2: To go there. So we rescheduled, went back.
Speaker 6: I think maybe it was like a month later, and
Speaker 6: we started biking there and it was a little bit
Speaker 6: warm during the day and we're all on backpacks and
Speaker 6: there's stuff with as much equipment as you.
Speaker 2: Can put on.
Speaker 6: And my girlfriend Franny, she's like trying to be like
Speaker 6: one of the guys, but she's like you've seen her.
Speaker 2: Next she's like five to one.
Speaker 6: Five to two, and she's packed like we are riding
Speaker 6: a bike. So we get to one shot and actually yeah,
Speaker 6: and we get to one spot to take a break,
Speaker 6: and all of a sudden, she falls down and she's
Speaker 6: sitting on the ground and we're looking at her, and
Speaker 6: all of a sudden, her eyes roll back and she
Speaker 6: passes out, falls backwards, and Mike's like, dude, we got
Speaker 6: to take her to the hospital within this within like
Speaker 6: a no, no, like not even a minute. She got up
Speaker 6: and she said she was fine. But when she got up,
Speaker 6: she turned to the side and there's this big ass
Speaker 6: rock with the pentagram symbol on it. So I don't
Speaker 6: know if that was like some type of sign, so
Speaker 6: we probably shouldn't have pushed it, but she wants she
Speaker 6: didn't want to go back, so she wanted to continue,
Speaker 6: so we ended up going and then we just started
Speaker 6: getting like crazy evidence while we were investigating throughout the night.
Speaker 6: But just like trying to there was like quite a mission.
Speaker 4: So do you think this place is cursed?
Speaker 2: Well, this is what I think.
Speaker 6: So if people don't know the history of aerojet. They
Speaker 6: also have they have a facility in California, and I
Speaker 6: believe Jack Parsons like either.
Speaker 2: Ran it or own it. He had a strong tipe
Speaker 2: to aerojet.
Speaker 6: And if people don't know who Jack Parsons is, he
Speaker 6: was the father of rocketry, very smart person, but he
Speaker 6: also dabbled into the occult.
Speaker 2: That's why I'm on this show. Yes, and he was.
Speaker 6: And if anyone knows who Alistair Crowley is, she was
Speaker 6: like like pretty much a disciple of Alistair Crowley. So
Speaker 6: I think that people that are dabbling those type of
Speaker 6: things down in South Florida found out about that. They
Speaker 6: went there to start practicing things. I don't know, maybe
Speaker 6: to like pay homage to them. Maybe they thought they
Speaker 6: can get I don't know, like they were like procting
Speaker 6: black magic. Maybe the magic was stronger. I don't know.
Speaker 5: Well, it's interesting the technological companies that were involved with
Speaker 5: anything related to nuclear technology, which aerojet and ballistic missiles
Speaker 5: and rocketry, right, I don't know the extent of their involvement,
Speaker 5: but I know they're involved. It's interesting that that you
Speaker 5: would think on the surface it wouldn't be so tied
Speaker 5: to the occult. And esoteric and paranormal. But as it
Speaker 5: turns out, the Manhattan Project even that they were saying
Speaker 5: that there was sighting of UFOs, if you will, but
Speaker 5: other kind of there's a lot of.
Speaker 2: Shit we don't know.
Speaker 6: I mean, And I actually my ex brother in law
Speaker 6: is a retired colonel in the Air Force, and he
Speaker 6: used to work for the Pentagon, and I.
Speaker 2: Could only he used to go.
Speaker 6: Like in front of the house to get like weapons
Speaker 6: approved for the military to use, that they were like
Speaker 6: testing and he would never talk about it. But I
Speaker 6: can only imagine some of the shit that he knows.
Speaker 6: I mean, look back like in the in the nineteen
Speaker 6: sixties or fifties when the military was like you know,
Speaker 6: testing with LSD and all kinds of other shit.
Speaker 4: Well, we're specifically about Jack Parsons and his history with
Speaker 4: ritual magic. Him and el Ron went out to the
Speaker 4: desert and tried to do this the Babylon working.
Speaker 2: I believe.
Speaker 4: So they're out there for days at a time, presumably
Speaker 4: buggering each other, and you know, they have this falling
Speaker 4: out and Jack Parsons loses his girlfriend to el Ron,
Speaker 4: who basically kidnaps her and takes her out to sea. Right,
Speaker 4: So Jack parsons it is supposed to have summoned up
Speaker 4: a hurricane which blew into an unfriendly port.
Speaker 1: It's supposed to use like some Mars talisman and Mars invok.
Speaker 1: I remember them talking about that. Yeah too, Oh wow, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know you know what's crazy too.
Speaker 6: I wonder if he has something to do with this
Speaker 6: massive hurricane that's out there.
Speaker 1: Curley even told him to, according to Strange Angel, and
Speaker 1: I think it was actually possibly documented. I think he
Speaker 1: even won them too, saying that Olron was his fucking
Speaker 1: scumbag scamotis pretty much Jack Busson still didn't listen and
Speaker 1: he go, fuck, but.
Speaker 6: You know, this location is the only location that we
Speaker 6: get things related to the location, meaning like we do
Speaker 6: a spirit box session, we're getting devil, We're getting Satan.
Speaker 2: This is coming through a radio radio station.
Speaker 6: Starts sweeping like, I mean, that's not coincidental, you know,
Speaker 6: Like I even have a gut a video where it's
Speaker 6: as devil three times.
Speaker 2: Oh no, he said Satan three times.
Speaker 6: And then in the clip that you saw towards the end,
Speaker 6: that was again a yard devil coming through the spirit
Speaker 6: box it which was clear as shit and then my
Speaker 6: friend Mike had this this device that he was showing
Speaker 6: called the Obulus, and that has a word bank of words.
Speaker 6: I don't know, maybe like three hundred words, I'm not
Speaker 6: sure exactly, but it's also there's like antennas on top
Speaker 6: of it, so it's sensing changes in the atmosphere. And
Speaker 6: they say the spirits can manipulate the atmosphere and pull
Speaker 6: words off that, and we're getting ghosts, we're getting like
Speaker 6: satan like two different devices. And then on top of that,
Speaker 6: I like lost time for like about a minute, like
Speaker 6: I like just completely spaced out and I didn't even
Speaker 6: realize it. And it's on that episode where there was
Speaker 6: this one room like you were seeing the one, there
Speaker 6: were like there's several rooms there where they were doing shit.
Speaker 6: There was one room that had like triple six, the pentagram,
Speaker 6: and some other symbolism that I didn't understand what it was.
Speaker 6: So that's we were doing the dowsing rod session and
Speaker 6: it was like right on point, and when we finished it,
Speaker 6: Mike and Joe like walked out of the room and
Speaker 6: so did Franny, but like I stayed there sitting like
Speaker 6: I was with my recorder in my hand, like I
Speaker 6: was going to do an EVP session and my was
Speaker 6: like calling me. He's like Eric, Eric, and I wasn't
Speaker 6: replying back, and he walked him and Joe walk in
Speaker 6: there and he's like Eric and I'm like, just like blank,
Speaker 6: I'm just sitting there. And he goes to Joe. He's like,
Speaker 6: there's something wrong with him. He's like yeah, And it
Speaker 6: was weird, Like I don't even remember. I remember it
Speaker 6: was just sitting with Marburt Corner maybe doing like getting
Speaker 6: ready to start an EVP session.
Speaker 2: But I blanked out, like I prozed. It's really weird.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: Somebody hit the pause button.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's interesting that you bring up the devil in
Speaker 4: relationship to this magic stuff. So Lamb is supposedly this
Speaker 4: angel that Crowley summoned and spoke to, and he drew
Speaker 4: a picture of it. He kind of looks like a
Speaker 4: gray alien, the really big head and stuff. So they
Speaker 4: think that that was the start of like the gray
Speaker 4: alien phenomena. When it comes to the UFO was in
Speaker 4: like abductions and stuff, so it was in like the
Speaker 4: nineteen forties, and so that sort of changed the nature
Speaker 4: of these different phenomena.
Speaker 2: At least they're reading right right.
Speaker 1: Have you have you seen that image before? Have you
Speaker 1: seen that? Have you seen that image before that he's
Speaker 1: talking about the gray alien? Yeah, the lamb lamb that
Speaker 1: Curly Drew. No, okay, I'll pull it up way so
Speaker 1: you can say at some.
Speaker 6: Point, but there's like so many other places there that
Speaker 6: I haven't even checked out yet. And I've already investigated
Speaker 6: it like four times. But you got to be there,
Speaker 6: like for a couple of weeks.
Speaker 5: Isn't now open as a park or do you have
Speaker 5: to sneak out out?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Well first it was kind of sort of open. No
Speaker 6: one really said anything. Well, it's right near Evergladesh. Okay,
Speaker 6: got you. I have seen that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know it's crazy. If you you know where
Speaker 1: I pulled this off of Wikipedia. Great, this actually comes
Speaker 1: up under gray aliens.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I didn't want that that.
Speaker 6: There was a mini series on Jack Parsons called Dark
Speaker 6: Angel and Amazon, and I think I went, like it's
Speaker 6: so long, I went, I think I got through half
Speaker 6: of it. I gotta watch the rest of Itator you
Speaker 6: think I'd already watch it like five times. I kind
Speaker 6: of like to go in blind though.
Speaker 2: I don't like I feel like like we feel like if.
Speaker 6: We go in blind and then whatever we get, we
Speaker 6: could then we can compare it because we don't like
Speaker 6: influence it.
Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, I was gonna say it. Sometimes I
Speaker 1: think knowing a little bit too much might like kind
Speaker 1: of influence your reasoning.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like Mike, he doesn't know, he doesn't want to
Speaker 2: know nothing.
Speaker 6: In a way, I sort of do because I like
Speaker 6: I use that as like a trigger to like try
Speaker 6: to get communication, So I try to like to relate.
Speaker 4: I think the blind method is so useful too, especially
Speaker 4: with other researchers that watch your stuff later on and
Speaker 4: they're like all the pieces put together, and these guys
Speaker 4: had no idea what they were fucking with.
Speaker 2: You know, well, my we do a century deporation experiment.
Speaker 6: We didn't we didn't do it there that night, didn't
Speaker 6: really have to, but we're gonna have to go back
Speaker 6: and do it. See how, how what kind of crazy
Speaker 6: should we get? But we do what's what we call
Speaker 6: the Delco experiment. It's a blend that the Essys method
Speaker 6: and the Gansfeld experiment.
Speaker 2: If you know what the Essys.
Speaker 6: Method is, it's you're sitting with headphones listening to a
Speaker 6: spirit box with a blindfold, and then you're just spitting
Speaker 6: out whatever you hear, and then someone that can't hear
Speaker 6: you that you can't hear is asking questions and you're
Speaker 6: trying to see the answers and the questions.
Speaker 2: Match up there.
Speaker 6: But we blended in with the Gainsfeld experiment, so instead
Speaker 6: of using the blindfold. This was back like I don't know,
Speaker 6: in the sixties or fifties when they did this, they
Speaker 6: were testing for ESP and they would put ping pong
Speaker 6: balls on the subject's eyes and shine a red light
Speaker 6: in their face.
Speaker 4: Hold on, you got to say that again. This is
Speaker 4: this is right up his alley. Dude, you gotta say
Speaker 4: that again.
Speaker 6: Okay, So the Gansveld so we do what's called the
Speaker 6: Delco experiment. It's a blend of the Essens method and
Speaker 6: the Gansveld experiment, the assets method. You've probably seen the blindfold,
Speaker 6: the headphones, the spare box of blurning out whatever they say.
Speaker 6: But we put it up a notch and blend in
Speaker 6: the Gainsfeld experiment that they did back in I think
Speaker 6: the fifties or sixties to test for ESP where they
Speaker 6: would put ping pong balls on the subject's eyes and
Speaker 6: shine a red light in their face, and then someone
Speaker 6: on the other side would put up cards and then
Speaker 6: that subject and they would listen to white noise instead
Speaker 6: of like a spare box, was just white noise, had said,
Speaker 6: and then they would blurt out what they saw.
Speaker 2: On the cards.
Speaker 6: So when we do it, it's freaking wild. I mean,
Speaker 6: I'm like, I'm not really sensitive, but like the first
Speaker 6: time I did it, I was blurting shit out that
Speaker 6: was from a murder suicide that happened next door five
Speaker 6: years ago, like from the boy's name, his age, his
Speaker 6: last name.
Speaker 2: It was crazy.
Speaker 6: And then when people who are who are sent says up,
Speaker 6: we had like, I don't know if you know who
Speaker 6: Patty in agree. She's frequented ghost adventures. She's the good witch,
Speaker 6: the blonde psychic medium that gets.
Speaker 2: Starts down there. Yes, we've had her do it, and
Speaker 2: she told me that like this is like almost like
Speaker 2: having an as a trip without the drugs. Like for
Speaker 2: her what she was saying, yeah, it can because you're you.
Speaker 6: Stare into the red light and some people see images,
Speaker 6: some people get touched. I've seen like a shadow going
Speaker 6: from me in front of me, and like, how the
Speaker 6: fuck is the shadow going to go in front me
Speaker 6: if I'm staring into red because they're luminescent.
Speaker 2: They're goggles that are like steampunk goggles, so they cover
Speaker 2: outside the table, right, and.
Speaker 6: Then they're luminescent panels, red panels, and they can be
Speaker 6: completely lit. You can have them strove and you can
Speaker 6: have them flash. Now you think like, oh, I my,
Speaker 6: have it crazy, I'm gonna let stroke. But for me,
Speaker 6: I think just staring into them lit, I get I
Speaker 6: get a better experience. So we've had Patty degree. I
Speaker 6: don't know if you know the new Jersey psychic medium
Speaker 6: April who says she's done it and it's all blown
Speaker 6: their minds away. Yeah, and now you know we take
Speaker 6: it up a not should we do trans cranial stimulation.
Speaker 2: Well, we do the same experiment, but we got this
Speaker 2: hat on with.
Speaker 6: Electrodes that stimulate your brain and you can turn it
Speaker 6: up to make it, you know strong, so like pretty
Speaker 6: much re zapping your brain. But people use it for
Speaker 6: therapy for like for treating like memory loss.
Speaker 2: I don't know, I think it was like depression and
Speaker 2: things like that, anxiety.
Speaker 6: It's actually something that they do use in the medical field.
Speaker 6: But man, when when you're doing all three.
Speaker 4: Of those engineering god helbt yeah, sort of.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I mean when I did that experiment for the first time.
Speaker 6: I don't know if you ever heard of the old hospital.
Speaker 6: The old hospital on College Hill in West Virginia. It's
Speaker 6: like it's not in the middle of nowhere, it's like
Speaker 6: a mining town. And there's a famous story there that
Speaker 6: there was a guy who shot a police officer and
Speaker 6: was in that hospital, and the police officer supposedly when
Speaker 6: he was in the hospital, he ran out and threw
Speaker 6: himself out the window, but some people say that that
Speaker 6: did not happen, that the police officers came a visit
Speaker 6: and threw them out the window.
Speaker 2: He actually survived it.
Speaker 6: He cracked a rib and I think he had collapsed
Speaker 6: long and then eventually he died not too long ago.
Speaker 6: But we were doing that experiment with the transcranial the gansveld,
Speaker 6: the estes in the.
Speaker 2: Hallway by the room.
Speaker 6: I was by the window where he jumped out or
Speaker 6: was thrown out, next to his room, and towards the
Speaker 6: end of it, I felt like I was going to
Speaker 6: pass out. But it was really weird, like I was
Speaker 6: on point on calling things out. I was calling things
Speaker 6: out on his death certificate. That was like I didn't
Speaker 6: even notice it when we got there, but it was
Speaker 6: like behind me on the wall, like all his information,
Speaker 6: like talking about the corner and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: It was weird.
Speaker 6: But what like I felt, I felt like I was
Speaker 6: at one point on a stretcher going down the hallway.
Speaker 6: I was laying down and I can see like the
Speaker 6: lights like flashing, like I was getting that feeling.
Speaker 2: It was really weird.
Speaker 5: Do you think the tools that you're using in combination
Speaker 5: to get that kind of psychic state require the in
Speaker 5: combination of the space or could you utilize these in
Speaker 5: a kind of remote viewing setting as well.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 6: It's funny you say that because we've messed around with it.
Speaker 6: I don't know if you've ever been to Tallahassee, Florida.
Speaker 6: There's a a bar called The Warrior. It's like a
Speaker 6: sort of like a little like music venue where bands
Speaker 6: go there and play. And it's also like outside of Tallahassee,
Speaker 6: so it's out in the woods and it's a known
Speaker 6: location for Bigfoot.
Speaker 2: We had if anyone knows Stacy Brown.
Speaker 6: Big Stacey, he's a researcher in that field.
Speaker 4: He's got some crazy experiments on the same uh, same
Speaker 4: sort of field, doing all sorts of No, he uses
Speaker 4: frequency and like several people in series, so he's got
Speaker 4: some sort of a frequency device that he sets up
Speaker 4: at haunted places and he gets similar effects.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's funny because he wanted to do the Delco session.
Speaker 6: We did it like on stage in front of a
Speaker 6: crowd at the Warrior.
Speaker 2: He's like, I'm gonna take it.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna take this show to Vegas. I don't know
Speaker 6: what happened to Vegas, but yeah, he's a very cool dude.
Speaker 6: But the cool thing what we did was we had
Speaker 6: one person do it in the bar and.
Speaker 2: Then Bigfoot Stacy Stacy Brown.
Speaker 6: We went by the bank because there's a river there
Speaker 6: and that's like they've seen like not too far from there.
Speaker 6: Like I don't I'm not a bigfoot researcher, but you know,
Speaker 6: like like that the beds of shrub like pushed down
Speaker 6: like they were like laying there, like they discovered that there.
Speaker 6: So we were doing FaceTime. So we had someone by
Speaker 6: the river. We had Stacy, and then we had I
Speaker 6: think it was Chaz, I forgot his name, but anyway,
Speaker 6: he was there and it was just weird. Like a
Speaker 6: lot of stuff was like hit or miss. But the
Speaker 6: the hit that was really weird was Chaz was in
Speaker 6: the in the I was down by the river with
Speaker 6: Stacy and Chaz was in the in the bar and
Speaker 6: he was talking about fishing and fishing rods and fishing
Speaker 6: reel and I looked down on my foot and.
Speaker 2: I see like a bag of fishhooks. So I don't
Speaker 2: know what's a dental but I just thought it was weird.
Speaker 2: It's interesting.
Speaker 6: So yeah, we've done it, like in two different locations,
Speaker 6: like trying to mess around with that.
Speaker 2: But those goggles, always trying to do something different.
Speaker 1: Those goggles that you were talking about, you did have
Speaker 1: them at the at the event that I met.
Speaker 2: You had, right, Yes, I did.
Speaker 1: That's what I thought. I saw him on the table.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, that was a nice want me
Speaker 2: to bust them out?
Speaker 1: Yeah you got it?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, can you show them two seconds?
Speaker 2: Don't talk about it.
Speaker 1: Yeah he had it on the table. You know, it's interesting.
Speaker 2: Shoot, I don't have it. I can show a picture.
Speaker 4: Have you ever heard of dising goggles?
Speaker 2: Say that again?
Speaker 4: Have you ever heard of di goles?
Speaker 2: I think so? Why does that sound familiar to me.
Speaker 4: There are area viewing goggles where you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh that's right.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I know someone that does like does or aura
Speaker 6: photos of people and like at a bench.
Speaker 2: She'll do that and like sell them to People's interesting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I gotta check those out.
Speaker 6: But see if I can get people a picture a
Speaker 6: visual of the Delco experiment.
Speaker 1: So at this place, how many rooms were there were
Speaker 1: there in this one building? You think you're saying again
Speaker 1: obviously you know.
Speaker 6: So this this one building actually wasn't where a rocket
Speaker 6: engine was being tested.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. I don't know what it was.
Speaker 6: I mean, it was really kind of it looked like
Speaker 6: a load There was like a loading dock there.
Speaker 2: I don't know, so yeah, almost sort of like a warehouse.
Speaker 6: So you you you pull in and there's a loading dock.
Speaker 2: So it's like two levels but it's open.
Speaker 6: And then if you go to the right, you go
Speaker 6: down the hallway and there's a big open room and
Speaker 6: then there's smaller rooms like on the left going down
Speaker 6: the hallway, and then.
Speaker 2: Then you go a little further down.
Speaker 6: And to the right there's like restrooms and lockers and
Speaker 6: stuff like that.
Speaker 2: But this is the weird shit to the left.
Speaker 6: There's two rooms got more satanic cold graffiti type stuff stuff.
Speaker 6: I don't even know what it was. I need, I
Speaker 6: need to put up some pictures. Maybe you guys can
Speaker 6: tell me what.
Speaker 1: Was some of the stuff that I said was in
Speaker 1: that place before.
Speaker 2: I kind of find some pictures for you guys. But
Speaker 2: so there was like to the.
Speaker 6: Left of the restrooms, there's these two rooms and it
Speaker 6: was really weird. So one room you go in, and
Speaker 6: then next to it it's the last room. And but
Speaker 6: next to both rooms there's a wall with a little
Speaker 6: window frame window like someone cut out and put actual
Speaker 6: frame around it, just enough for like someone to crawl
Speaker 6: in it, like Nick and I could probably call in
Speaker 6: it easy, actually all of us, my friend might.
Speaker 2: There's no way to be able to fit in there.
Speaker 6: But it was really weird because that room had a
Speaker 6: door to the outside, like a like a metal door,
Speaker 6: but it was welded shut, like someone purposely welded it.
Speaker 6: And there was a mattress in there, and it just
Speaker 6: had a weird shitting there, like she died, she was young,
Speaker 6: and there was like stains and stuff. And I got
Speaker 6: to show this picture. I gotta find this. It's just
Speaker 6: it was just wild.
Speaker 4: So that sounds like some processed church ship, to be honest.
Speaker 6: So I go in so I'm like, I want to
Speaker 6: go in there, and I want to do an EVP session.
Speaker 6: And we were there and I heard a loud bang
Speaker 6: on the other side of the metal door, and there
Speaker 6: was like no one out there, and all of us
Speaker 6: were dead quiet, and I don't remember what EVPs I got,
Speaker 6: but like I think I got maybe.
Speaker 2: My name called out in there, said Eric. So it
Speaker 2: was pretty weird me me, So, yeah, that was that.
Speaker 6: Then there's other ones where you could see where they
Speaker 6: were doing. They they had rocket engines in there, because
Speaker 6: the rocket engines were like like sort of in the
Speaker 6: ground actually, And then it was weird. Was just like
Speaker 6: a it was like a ramp that goes into this
Speaker 6: building two levels, but like all open, and it was
Speaker 6: almost like the rocket engine went up the ramp and
Speaker 6: maybe like tilted in and they fired it and actually
Speaker 6: maybe like a mile out, I haven't even had a
Speaker 6: chance to go out that far. There's still like an
Speaker 6: underground silo with a rocket still in it and people
Speaker 6: were going in them.
Speaker 2: So they had to cover it with these cement pylons.
Speaker 6: But if you actually go there and stand on the
Speaker 6: pylons and peek in it. You can see the rocket
Speaker 6: still sitting in there. It's pretty wild.
Speaker 1: Damn. Sounds like a spot to go.
Speaker 4: Well, all across the East coast, there are Nike missile
Speaker 4: batteries that are all over South Florida.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I've seen them. There's actually one that's not too
Speaker 6: far away. And everyone was saying it was an insane asylum.
Speaker 6: It wasn't, yeah, because like South Florida, they were like,
Speaker 6: I mean, Kennedy thought that you know, Cuba was gonna
Speaker 6: send missiles, and we had all these Nike missile sites
Speaker 6: all over South Florida.
Speaker 4: I used to live in Northern Virginia. There all over
Speaker 4: the place that allows you with Nike missile silos.
Speaker 2: When to find these pictures.
Speaker 1: You also said it was a notice in the front
Speaker 1: in the video there's a like a pentagram on the floor.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Like if you see like were Python Calby Cowboys footage
Speaker 6: that was in the beginning of the trailer, you see
Speaker 6: the pentagram there. Actually, Python Cowboy is like a famous
Speaker 6: python hunter in South Florida. And actually I found out
Speaker 6: about this location watching a Python show and these guys
Speaker 6: were going to like a prime location to look for pythons,
Speaker 6: but they said it was Hamit And when I saw
Speaker 6: where they were going, I'm like.
Speaker 2: Oh shit, I need to go there.
Speaker 6: I'm going to share you a picture of me real
Speaker 6: quick with the.
Speaker 2: Delica goggles.
Speaker 1: Is there any stuff, Dad, that almost seemed like babbel
Speaker 1: didn't make any sense at all that stuck out or
Speaker 1: you remember say that again, like just stuff like maybe
Speaker 1: phrases or just like even it didn't even seem to
Speaker 1: be like a regular word. I don't know. I'm just
Speaker 1: trying to like get an idea if there was anything
Speaker 1: like else there that maybe you wouldn't have picked up on.
Speaker 6: We've gotten disembodied voice in another building EVPs. We heard
Speaker 6: a woman like yelling and it's just like at night,
Speaker 6: and it's just us. This wasn't even with Franny, And
Speaker 6: it was just the point where like we had to
Speaker 6: walk out of the building and start looking around. We
Speaker 6: even look at our thermals if I are flying heat
Speaker 6: signatures to see if anyone was nearby, and nothing was there.
Speaker 4: Do you remember which way the petagram was oriented in
Speaker 4: terms of north, southeast and west.
Speaker 2: Oh that's a good question.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I even wonder how like the way that
Speaker 1: the police I want.
Speaker 6: To say I was facing. I think it was facing.
Speaker 6: It could have been facing north and south, like the
Speaker 6: point that plant of it was facing north. If I
Speaker 6: really think about it, it's kind of hard to align
Speaker 6: like that area where my exact location. I would have to, like, right,
Speaker 6: I know, I did a Google Earth on it before
Speaker 6: I went therapus.
Speaker 2: I wanted to get a close up shot.
Speaker 4: Did you miss it out? You always got to have
Speaker 4: a little magnetic compass because sometimes those things go absolutely
Speaker 4: fucking nuts.
Speaker 6: And so, oh you know that at the Deering Estate.
Speaker 6: I always bring my compass at the Deering State. It's
Speaker 6: a place in Miami.
Speaker 2: It was it was moving.
Speaker 6: It was fluctuating thirty degrees each way, and nobody was moving.
Speaker 2: We're just like standing there and in shock, like looking
Speaker 2: at it. It was crazy. Oh wait here we go, right?
Speaker 2: Can you show that picture?
Speaker 6: So, so what we did is we this is the pentagram.
Speaker 6: It's kind of hard to see it because it's in
Speaker 6: the dark. But this okay, so you guys didn't see
Speaker 6: the part. Well, when you start driving up to this location,
Speaker 6: start seeing weird shit.
Speaker 2: Up the side of the road.
Speaker 6: The first thing that I saw was a dolls head
Speaker 6: sitting on Apollo rocks with the upside down crosses straight
Speaker 6: all over on the rocks, and the dolls had sort
Speaker 6: of looked like this, and it had an upside.
Speaker 2: Down cross like an ash on its forehead.
Speaker 6: So my buddy Mike like created a rampod that looked
Speaker 6: exactly like it.
Speaker 2: So it has a static field so if.
Speaker 6: Anything gets close to it, it'll alarm. And then where
Speaker 6: you see these lights here, this is a trip wire.
Speaker 6: It'll light up when it sends. It's ems electronic magnetic frequency.
Speaker 6: So that's going around the the pentagram. But it's kind
Speaker 6: of hard to see there. So that's pretty cool. I
Speaker 6: see if I'm buying anything else, everyone's seeing my shit.
Speaker 7: Mh, I'm getting close, guys. I we'll have more pictures,
Speaker 7: all right.
Speaker 5: It's interesting that the uh something I've been kind of
Speaker 5: seeing or inferring from, different people are studying different aspects
Speaker 5: of the paranormal broadly, if you will, that now it
Speaker 5: seems like people are starting to recognize or find that
Speaker 5: there's some fusion of all of these things, as you
Speaker 5: kind of alluded to in the beginning, as you're.
Speaker 2: Talking about it before I cut out.
Speaker 5: I apologize that there's this fusion of the phenomena broadly
Speaker 5: right that mind is it? The you know, there's this
Speaker 5: inexplicable aspect that kind of brings Bigfoot and the UFO
Speaker 5: and voices together and technology. Sorry, what was that?
Speaker 6: You want to hear something funny? I hate, but you're
Speaker 6: talking about and UFOs. So that location is also that
Speaker 6: area is known for skuncake sightings, which is our version
Speaker 6: of Bigfoot down here.
Speaker 1: H that's interesting. Why does it seem to come up
Speaker 1: a lot with the UFOs and orbs.
Speaker 4: A lot of people think that the orbs are just projecting,
Speaker 4: projecting the images of these beasts and like UFO. So
Speaker 4: like somehow this is like the seed of consciousness that
Speaker 4: then gives form to these other things to scare you
Speaker 4: off or something.
Speaker 6: You know, I've heard a lot of crazy things, you know,
Speaker 6: I know, I don't know if you know Britt Barbieri,
Speaker 6: she's based out of Tampa.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh okay, yeah, so she's.
Speaker 1: Like, actually I'm supposed to get a back Halloween.
Speaker 2: Oh okay.
Speaker 6: So yeah her she thinks it could be like a
Speaker 6: certain type of species. And then you got other people
Speaker 6: who think maybe it's extraterrestrial. Like, I know, have you
Speaker 6: ever heard of Jessica Jones Jesus Georgia? She said, she
Speaker 6: swears to God, there's a portal that they come in
Speaker 6: and out of. I'm like, come on, Jessica. Really, it's like, now,
Speaker 6: I'm gonna take you there. But yeah, I mean I
Speaker 6: don't know, like how come they haven't found like a
Speaker 6: skeleton or anything, Like how elusive can it be?
Speaker 2: Like we found prehistoric animals? You know?
Speaker 1: Also anyone else I was thinking about too. You always
Speaker 1: only see one, so I mean, like, you know, if
Speaker 1: that's all there is going around, how the fuck are
Speaker 1: these things still procreating? Oh there's gotta be I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean, oh, the family somewhere else, but like you
Speaker 1: only ever see one.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 6: It's funny, like not too long ago, and I don't
Speaker 6: know where I saw it, but someone got captured like
Speaker 6: three of them together, like like two of them were
Speaker 6: young and old I think, can't remember, but it was
Speaker 6: like multiple, but like I don't know. You're like always skeptical,
Speaker 6: You're like, oh, come on, is that real? But I
Speaker 6: know I post I put shit that I've captured, and
Speaker 6: I'm like, I know, people's going to say like, oh,
Speaker 6: you probably made that up like or overdramatized it. But
Speaker 6: that's the thing with our show, The Homit Files, is
Speaker 6: like when we're investigating, we're just showing what you're capturing,
Speaker 6: what we're capturing at that moment, and it's for you
Speaker 6: to determine if you think it's paranormal or not. We're
Speaker 6: not going to overdramatize. We're not going to call everything,
Speaker 6: you know, the devil and all that stuff. No, you're
Speaker 6: going to see what we get. I started out doing
Speaker 6: lives and people loved it, So I guess people really
Speaker 6: like the honesty that we put into it.
Speaker 5: To that point, I presume that there's others that don't
Speaker 5: know this because I'm ignorant of how exactly does the
Speaker 5: spirit Box work? Could you explain that a little sure?
Speaker 6: So like try to imagine like like your older radio
Speaker 6: with the tuner knob. I don't know if you ever
Speaker 6: used to play with it and you turn it real
Speaker 6: fast and you hear like the white noise, Like, well,
Speaker 6: people say that spirits can communicate through that. So what
Speaker 6: the spirit Box does is it can it can do
Speaker 6: that tuning automatically and go backwards forwards.
Speaker 2: AM FM and can go slow fast.
Speaker 6: And a lot of people don't like it. But like,
Speaker 6: I don't know, like I've gotten like I say, hey,
Speaker 6: what's my name?
Speaker 2: Eric? Like right on cue? I gotten that, like at
Speaker 2: a place that I frequent.
Speaker 6: Like I get work like fuck and curse words, like
Speaker 6: how's that going to get through.
Speaker 2: The FCC because I.
Speaker 6: I know because I have a radio show that's FCC regulated.
Speaker 6: So don't know, Like I've gotten some things that will
Speaker 6: blow your mind away from the spirit Box so I
Speaker 6: can't discount it.
Speaker 5: And it's and it's working on an AM or FM signal.
Speaker 6: Yeah, there's some that will you can sweep both channels
Speaker 6: at the same time.
Speaker 2: It's called the A eleven spirit Box eleven.
Speaker 6: But to tell you truth, I like to keep it simple,
Speaker 6: just have it go through one station.
Speaker 2: That's what works best for me.
Speaker 1: That's actually the spirit Box I got what did I say? Actually?
Speaker 1: I think I got it from people that you were
Speaker 1: associated with. At one point I was talking, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I was like, yo, I bought my bought my spirit
Speaker 1: bots on this.
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Speaker 1: When you were at this place, I know you said,
Speaker 1: like you saw pentagrams and stuff. Was there anything that
Speaker 1: you came across that it was like a little bit
Speaker 1: more like kind of like specific. I don't even know
Speaker 1: if you'd even know if you were looking at it,
Speaker 1: but like any of the symbols or I'm.
Speaker 6: Still like scrolling trying to find that room, but that
Speaker 6: had all the I had a good shot of.
Speaker 2: That, so I could show it to you. Guys. Now
Speaker 2: I've seen stuff that so you should let me look
Speaker 2: at some maybe figure it out.
Speaker 6: Like so there's a sorry to change the subject, but
Speaker 6: there's another place where we found people dabbling in the occult.
Speaker 6: That's at Pine Pinewood Cemetery in Miami. It's the oldest
Speaker 6: cemetery in Miami. They got in Miami is like is
Speaker 6: new compared to.
Speaker 2: The rest of the US. I think was established in
Speaker 2: eighteen ninety or eighteen ninety six, but it's the oldest cemetery.
Speaker 2: They even have like a couple of Confederate.
Speaker 6: Soldiers buried there, and I used to do these shows
Speaker 6: for Univision, it's a Latin TV work network down there.
Speaker 2: So we decided to go film.
Speaker 6: At that cemetery and I just saw some weird shit there.
Speaker 6: I can't explain. I mean, I saw these like Mason jars.
Speaker 6: I don't know what was inside it, but it looked
Speaker 6: like it was a bombit or it looked like it
Speaker 6: was like a master of Brain.
Speaker 2: I don't know what it was.
Speaker 6: And they were like strategically placed in the cemetery. And
Speaker 6: then then there was this one memorial that it's not
Speaker 6: like a headstone, but it's shaped like in a square,
Speaker 6: like a box, and it almost has like a little
Speaker 6: roof on top of it.
Speaker 2: With two holes.
Speaker 6: It has a whole on each side of it, and
Speaker 6: it's maybe like about three feet high two feet wide,
Speaker 6: and we.
Speaker 2: Were looking in the holes and there were like these
Speaker 2: pictures of women that were partially burned, like someone said,
Speaker 2: but they weren't but you can still see their face,
Speaker 2: but they were burned around the edges. So I thought
Speaker 2: that was weird.
Speaker 1: It was Jaws. What did you say? They looked like Again,
Speaker 1: it was just like mushed up stuff.
Speaker 2: It looked like it was a vomit or something something.
Speaker 2: It's disgusting.
Speaker 1: I don't know what it was, but it doesn't look
Speaker 1: like vomit unless like fucking years old and maybe deteriorated.
Speaker 6: It was like it looked fresh like it looked like
Speaker 6: I don't know, I want to say, like maybe like
Speaker 6: matched up brain or something like that.
Speaker 2: I don't know. It just looked nasty.
Speaker 4: How many Mason jars did you say?
Speaker 6: There were like three of them there and they were
Speaker 6: all in like one section where the headstones were, but
Speaker 6: those pictures were in a completely different area.
Speaker 4: Did it look like they were being deliberate with their
Speaker 4: placement of where these jars were, like around something in
Speaker 4: the middle.
Speaker 2: Or well, there was like sort of in the middle.
Speaker 6: I remember there was a child that was buried there
Speaker 6: because we were trying to take communication. We got it's
Speaker 6: called a boo bear that sensus E MF and has
Speaker 6: their rem built into it.
Speaker 4: That sounds like a You got the triangle which they
Speaker 4: used for projection, So you're going to be doing a
Speaker 4: summoning ritual into the triangle.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wouldn't be doing something like that. I think
Speaker 2: it was like a piece of like animal or something.
Speaker 4: Could be. It could be a lot of things, but
Speaker 4: in terms of the placement around a child's grave, it
Speaker 4: sounds like it was attempted necromancy, to be quite honest.
Speaker 6: All right, I got some pictures, how about that?
Speaker 2: Right? Okay, So let me show my screen again.
Speaker 6: So this is the room that I said that was
Speaker 6: sealed off and the only way to get into.
Speaker 2: It was through a window that they cut through. So
Speaker 2: what me show you that one? Let me sorry, I
Speaker 2: got a bunch of pictures. It's gonna be cool. Okay.
Speaker 6: So, by the way, you know how they got the
Speaker 6: rockets to this location in the Everglades. They dredged a
Speaker 6: canal that goes all the way out to Biscayme Bay,
Speaker 6: which leads out to the Atlantic. So they would bring
Speaker 6: these rockets laying on these barges down these canals.
Speaker 2: All right, let me share my screen and I'll show you.
Speaker 4: Did you notice any mounds around there?
Speaker 6: Michelle moons, No, not that particular area.
Speaker 1: You've noticed mounds of other places though.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, there's I know a bunch of those.
Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, is that a thing that's like, uh, no,
Speaker 1: one in the paranormal.
Speaker 2: Here's our friend. Yeah, yep, missed stick Crowley.
Speaker 6: So this is the canal they came down on barges
Speaker 6: down these canals.
Speaker 4: So these are like the Saturn five rockets.
Speaker 6: I don't know exactly, but it was I believe it
Speaker 6: was during the the fifties towards the sixties.
Speaker 5: Maybe do you remember when one they closed the side down?
Speaker 2: Say that again, I'm.
Speaker 5: Sorry, do you remember when they closed the side down?
Speaker 6: I believe in the early sixties. It was right after
Speaker 6: the Cold I think it's like right after the Cold. Oh,
Speaker 6: it was when they changed what they were using for
Speaker 6: rocket fuel.
Speaker 2: I think they dry fuel maybe.
Speaker 6: Yeah, they went from from liquid to dry right, and
Speaker 6: that was yeah, they were doing liquid fuel there and
Speaker 6: then when they switched over they shut it down solid.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know the government they leave everything behind.
Speaker 2: That was.
Speaker 4: That was Jack. Jack's big contribution was the transfer from
Speaker 4: solid to liquid state rocket fuel. So that was his
Speaker 4: his big scientific thing as well.
Speaker 6: Interesting, it was like, you remember remember the silo with
Speaker 6: the rocket still in it. That's the silo right there
Speaker 6: before they covered it. That's pretty cool, right, that's still
Speaker 6: out there. They got amazing graffiti.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 6: Right, So this is the room. So I'm standing in
Speaker 6: front of the door that's well, that's shut. And then
Speaker 6: this window goes to the outside, and then this is
Speaker 6: the room next door. So I crawled through this and like,
Speaker 6: I don't know what that symbol is sold to the.
Speaker 4: Devil Satanic cross. That's the Satanic cross right there above
Speaker 4: the six.
Speaker 2: She was only nine and there and there's.
Speaker 1: It is that is Isn't it like sulfur something that
Speaker 1: associated with that?
Speaker 4: Actually, well, I think there's actually a name for the
Speaker 4: Satanic Cross. It's a I'll look it up real quick.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, it goes back to something else. Actually,
Speaker 1: that's an a chemical symbol. Of course, it wasn't something
Speaker 1: they made up, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: They combined to symbols.
Speaker 6: And then here in this section you can't see it,
Speaker 6: but there's like a mattress like someone was like spending
Speaker 6: time there.
Speaker 4: It's called the Leviathide Cross levia Thide cross.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the Leviathan is the wicked sea monster, the devilish
Speaker 5: sea monster.
Speaker 2: Right. Oh, interesting, it says sacrifice ce o error.
Speaker 6: They had Latin like terminology even out on the road,
Speaker 6: like on your way over there. Something in the effect
Speaker 6: of you need to turn around now or something like that.
Speaker 5: Under the cross, I believe it says sacrificio orum or
Speaker 5: co or e O r U M.
Speaker 2: Looks like that's a new Yeah.
Speaker 5: Is that gold?
Speaker 2: No? Is?
Speaker 5: Oram gold?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 4: Can you zoom in at all on that one? There's
Speaker 4: a circle behind the cross. Yeah, oh that's another six
Speaker 4: sixty six is face no?
Speaker 5: No? No?
Speaker 4: Up a little bit over to the left, there's like
Speaker 4: a face sort of pointing at the cross with like.
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, like I don't know what that is. So
Speaker 8: to the devil, she was only nine yikes, so I
Speaker 8: had to crawl through here to get in this room.
Speaker 2: That was the only way.
Speaker 5: And someone obviously built that wooden frame.
Speaker 6: That's so yeah, like why like so they were doing
Speaker 6: ship there like yeah to make that there. You gotta
Speaker 6: remember again three miles out, the only way to get
Speaker 6: there is by bike or let's they had a motorcycle.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Somebody there was somebody there at thirteen's interest.
Speaker 2: And then let's.
Speaker 6: See it's like all the way that's this is another
Speaker 6: building down this hallway. I hear disembodied voices. I heard
Speaker 6: a woman screaming. Another time I was with Franny. We
Speaker 6: were talking and someone shushed us.
Speaker 4: You know, I wrot the places with the most graffiti
Speaker 4: would probably be the least haunted, because why would anybody
Speaker 4: stick around if they've got all this haunted shit going
Speaker 4: around them all the time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, unless they did it during the day.
Speaker 6: I don't know, Like, there's nothing here sinister as you
Speaker 6: see here, but the graffiti is amazing. But yeah, this
Speaker 6: is where I gott disembodied voices and e vps.
Speaker 1: Go to the one above above it a little bit.
Speaker 2: That's one of the buildings on the outside.
Speaker 1: Spake Yeah, man, I would love to trespass here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, yeah, gratchie yeah.
Speaker 2: Oh, here's another room. This is the one where I blame.
Speaker 5: Number six six.
Speaker 1: I was definitely fitting for this room.
Speaker 4: So we got EVPs going on.
Speaker 2: You get that audio from that picture.
Speaker 4: You've got two pedagrams with the six sixty six and
Speaker 4: then four ones around it, and then another petagram upside down?
Speaker 4: Mean which one.
Speaker 2: That a one? Or is that something else? That's Oh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wonder if that's almost like alft, yeah, that
Speaker 1: or some sort of yode? What is that writing too?
Speaker 1: Are you.
Speaker 4: Ogo?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 1: That's not it was that ship that was on that
Speaker 1: like Ouigi mac album cover. I was talking to us.
Speaker 1: The only thing I can remember. It's like Shamari Babylon
Speaker 1: where they would use almost looks like a golf tip
Speaker 1: to make like.
Speaker 4: Oh right, that's a cuneiform.
Speaker 5: In the picture. Before that there was I believe Dennis
Speaker 5: the Menace, and one of the graffiti pieces was ALFREDI. Newman.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's really cool. I like that one.
Speaker 4: It's really good, so interesting. You can see all the
Speaker 4: different time periods of the culture that.
Speaker 6: It was, right the one with the extrecists. That one's gone.
Speaker 6: So one painted over that one, so sad.
Speaker 1: There's some wild stuff in that.
Speaker 6: We got Satan in the spare box in that room.
Speaker 2: There's another shot of that room that's at night.
Speaker 6: A little uh Branny, she was our sacrificial lamb.
Speaker 1: It's not nice. I like that one actually right there,
Speaker 1: the whole overhead of that area. I don't think that's
Speaker 1: the next one right there.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's just part of it right there. It goes
Speaker 6: further that way and there's more buildings like this. So
Speaker 6: let's see here. This is this is the building for
Speaker 6: all the Satanic ship. This is the one. There's one
Speaker 6: that that goes further that way that I was telling
Speaker 6: you about the Dora Beanie babies. Let me see if
Speaker 6: I got another picture of that.
Speaker 1: That's a good picture. Would you use a drum?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 6: This, Remember I told you there's like a ramp like
Speaker 6: or the rockets where I'm standing on top of it. Actually,
Speaker 6: if I assume in it, you can probably see it
Speaker 6: in this building, you see, Okay, I so.
Speaker 2: Like right here, you see that that's like a ramp.
Speaker 5: Yes, you say, can we hear the clip of the voices?
Speaker 5: Is that right there? I hear it again?
Speaker 2: Rather I don't. I would have to send it to
Speaker 2: new It.
Speaker 5: I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: Sorry.
Speaker 5: No, wait, did you did you mentioned already?
Speaker 2: You gotta worry about this kind of ship out there?
Speaker 1: Oh ship?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 6: And in the video on the episode Python Mike Hat Python,
Speaker 6: Calvey had a go pro and he has the video
Speaker 6: of the alligator taking it and spitting it out.
Speaker 2: No, you gotta worry about these. You gotta worry about these.
Speaker 5: Did you mention you staid earlier in the beginning the
Speaker 5: relationship of Crowley with the site. Did you did you
Speaker 5: mention that?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 6: Jack Parsons and then Jack Parsons relationship Browley.
Speaker 2: Sorry, Yeah, when are you guys coming down to South Florida? Kidd?
Speaker 5: Is that a second what Me worry? Or a second
Speaker 5: Newman for the same one?
Speaker 2: That's the same one.
Speaker 5: It looks so different, delighting, b that's cool.
Speaker 2: When have you seen mister McGoo anywhere? Right? That's so old? Yeah,
Speaker 2: like weird, like like a circuitry box. I don't I
Speaker 2: don't know what that was used for, though, it's really weird.
Speaker 5: I wonder that it makes me think of the what
Speaker 5: me worry? Uh slogan being related to the do us
Speaker 5: that will in some form or another.
Speaker 1: That's fun. Yeah. What was that guy's name again? Else?
Speaker 2: Alfred E? Newman?
Speaker 6: And you know that's just probably like a quarter of
Speaker 6: the place. The thing is, it's so active, like it
Speaker 6: never really wanted to me. I never really had time
Speaker 6: to venture out anywhere else those.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it takes a lot of time. I mean, I
Speaker 2: have to go back and check out the other ones.
Speaker 6: But then I'm like, damn, I want to go back
Speaker 6: to that that satan room again, to what happens, you know, go.
Speaker 1: Back, let me know, make you down there?
Speaker 4: Yeah, man, do you think about a Christmas camping trip?
Speaker 2: There? You go making camp out there.
Speaker 6: I'll do the No, dude, we can glamp it.
Speaker 2: If you can get in an RV. Right, Oh, I
Speaker 2: can show you a bunch of cool places. You got
Speaker 2: you think you can.
Speaker 1: Do an evoking ritual to actually stow shop up? Hell yeah,
Speaker 1: we gotta try it.
Speaker 3: I'll make sure that I bring my he's got.
Speaker 2: My holy water?
Speaker 1: Have you ever heard of flutter water?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Oh, I got something stronger in that. You know,
Speaker 2: what's you know what the name of it's.
Speaker 1: Called Eco.
Speaker 2: Npe.
Speaker 5: What is it about Florida that makes there be so
Speaker 5: many paranormal high strangeness?
Speaker 2: Have you ever?
Speaker 5: I mean, is that am I out of line in
Speaker 5: asking that that maybe all places have some kind of
Speaker 5: things going on?
Speaker 6: But I think a lot of people don't really know
Speaker 6: about it. And there's so many influences in different cultures.
Speaker 6: But I think, like I mean, even up north there's
Speaker 6: like culture as well. I mean, I don't know. I mean,
Speaker 6: there's just a lot of history here. I mean there's
Speaker 6: you got the mounds, she got stuff that goes back prehistoric.
Speaker 6: I mean going back triangle for me to triangle there
Speaker 6: you go? Oh, and we do get frequently. I mean
Speaker 6: there's has been a lot of sightings of UFOs in
Speaker 6: this area, especially near the Everglades. There's been a lot
Speaker 6: of sightings of the tic Tac UFOs out there.
Speaker 4: The bet sphere you mean.
Speaker 2: Now what you call it?
Speaker 4: No, the bet sphere was exactly like these tic TACs, right,
Speaker 4: and that was found in the nineteen seventies by this
Speaker 4: family called the Bets family. And they actually had one
Speaker 4: of these spheres that would like vibrate when you played music.
Speaker 4: It's really strong, really, Yeah, the Army was looking into
Speaker 4: taking it. That was in Florida as well, right near
Speaker 4: the tic Tac siding. So whatever's going on like a
Speaker 4: drone factory underwater or something.
Speaker 2: Well, look at interesting.
Speaker 6: There's stories at the Skyway Bridge in Tampa that you know,
Speaker 6: what do you call them?
Speaker 2: Not UFOs but usos usos.
Speaker 6: Yeah, there's a lot of them. People have seen them
Speaker 6: go underneath the bridge. Even Lake Okachobee in like by
Speaker 6: Florida as well. Actually, we did an episode there thinking
Speaker 6: we were going to investigate the paranormal and we didn't.
Speaker 6: We did the Delco experiment and everything I said led
Speaker 6: to UFOs talking about lights and all primes and crazy shit,
Speaker 6: and we weren't expecting that, so that was pretty wild.
Speaker 6: Ritt Barbieri's in that episode, by the way, nice, Hey, you.
Speaker 1: Know what, I got to hit her up.
Speaker 5: It's another kind of example of how they kind of
Speaker 5: the different aspects of the paranormal coincide. Like you're expecting
Speaker 5: one version, but there was another.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like you look at it. We look we used
Speaker 2: the spirit box.
Speaker 6: I'm really bad with history, but someone created that device
Speaker 6: to communicate with UFOs originally, that's what it was used for.
Speaker 4: What if UFOs are just a different kind of haunted.
Speaker 6: Right, that's what people believe. It could be related. Maybe
Speaker 6: I'm not talking to ghosts. Maybe I'm talking to UFOs
Speaker 6: and they're fucking with me.
Speaker 4: Well, let's say that it's all sort of a plasma, right,
Speaker 4: Like it's uh, it's sort of a projection, and our
Speaker 4: brains or our consciousness is interacting with this sort of
Speaker 4: like live action hallucination, and you.
Speaker 6: Know what it's like they and people some people say
Speaker 6: they travel through different dimensions and when you die, and
Speaker 6: I believe you go into another dimension.
Speaker 2: Why couldn't be that.
Speaker 4: I'm a Christian.
Speaker 6: I'm Christian, but like maybe the maybe the the star
Speaker 6: of David wasn't a star. Maybe it was a UFO
Speaker 6: maybe three Wiseman's like, I don't know if you can
Speaker 6: think of all crazy shit, right.
Speaker 5: And it's it's like maybe too that these inter dimensional
Speaker 5: energies are trying to communicate with us and show us
Speaker 5: something and they don't know how. The only some somehow
Speaker 5: or another the only way they fuss.
Speaker 4: Yeah, right, right, Like there's there's all kinds of religious
Speaker 4: religious hallucinations that that go along the same lines, and
Speaker 4: it seems like it changes with time. So like people
Speaker 4: back in the day would be see wheels within the reels,
Speaker 4: and then today we see UFOs.
Speaker 1: That's a good point too. Yeah, I even u uh,
Speaker 1: how do you even look at stuff at times? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Right, there's me doing the delko.
Speaker 5: I guess a big scheme, a big theme in the
Speaker 5: in the sixties and seventies, early in the UFO phenomena,
Speaker 5: if you will, modern version of it, there were often
Speaker 5: these messages, as you said, Eric, to stop messing up
Speaker 5: our planet.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I truly believe that.
Speaker 6: I mean, I mean, man, I got a lot of
Speaker 6: like when it when it comes to like ghosts and
Speaker 6: paranormal and on locations, that's a lot on my plate
Speaker 6: and like putting UFOs on there, like why wouldn't you?
Speaker 2: But it's just like.
Speaker 6: I don't know, I mean, why why couldn't that correlate together?
Speaker 2: We won't know till we're dead, right right?
Speaker 1: If that if we're looking and.
Speaker 2: I wanna, I'm gonna come back and haunt your asses.
Speaker 4: You gotta figure out how to do that here so
Speaker 4: that you could be a more effective ghost on the
Speaker 4: other side.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: I like that.
Speaker 2: I can.
Speaker 6: I can come back on your on your podcast as
Speaker 6: a as a spirit and you just like, I don't know,
Speaker 6: show an image of me?
Speaker 2: Can I talk.
Speaker 1: Running through a ghost box? Spirit box?
Speaker 2: Right there? You go?
Speaker 1: Is there anything moving forward? Is there anything that you, like,
Speaker 1: I guess maybe wanted to promote or anything coming up?
Speaker 1: Or is anything else you want to add about this
Speaker 1: before we wrap it up?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Well, I'm wrapping up all my events, so this is
Speaker 6: the last week. Just be on the lookout for new
Speaker 6: ones starting the beginning of next year, so I'll be
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Speaker 6: hard on season four of The Haunted Files and that's
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Speaker 2: one ever should. You're local, and I'll be more than
Speaker 2: happy to help you out.
Speaker 1: That's what's up. That's awesome. Yeah, so definitely definitely check
Speaker 1: this man out. If you've got some crazy shit going
Speaker 1: on in your house, I don't want to hear about it.
Speaker 1: I'll leave all the links on the bottom of I'll
Speaker 1: editm in after the show and when the audio drops.
Speaker 1: I'm plak going to drop this around Halloween time, so
Speaker 1: I'll make sure all the links are in there as well.
Speaker 1: Oh hell yeah, yeah, I think it'd be perfect timing,
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, yes, uh yeah, the weekend of the
Speaker 1: you can't ask the Halloween. I think you'll drop it.
Speaker 1: And again, thank you real quick.
Speaker 6: Yes, that time another streaming platform called scare TV network.
Speaker 2: He's going to be Billy Lewis.
Speaker 6: He's going to be dropping an episode coming I believe
Speaker 6: November first, and Frannie and I are in it. And
Speaker 6: it's it's a small wood general store which is out
Speaker 6: in chuck Aleski, Florida, in the middle of the Everglades
Speaker 6: where I just want to say, paranormal serial killer type deal.
Speaker 2: Check it out.
Speaker 1: Yes, and she'll actually be coming on the show. I've
Speaker 1: a messaged her to try to book hers eventually now
Speaker 1: so oh got her on the show too, probably within
Speaker 1: a few weeks.
Speaker 2: People, very cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah nice. Well yeah, well, I mean I told you
Speaker 1: both of them wanted to get John. He both got
Speaker 1: your separate stuff anyway, so very interesting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well we investigate together as well. I mean we're
Speaker 2: boyfriend and girlfriend. She goes wherever I go. I go up,
Speaker 2: Sheita goes. Yes, I'm lucky like that. It's women that
Speaker 2: wanted to do the same ship, especially what I do
Speaker 2: out in the field.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, funny heat your stuff, I like, sir, go
Speaker 1: for it.
Speaker 2: Uh she's listening.
Speaker 1: Oh that was sweet. Oh he tell you really likes it.
Speaker 1: Yeah all right, so real quick too. Let everybody else
Speaker 1: wrap it up, ethan sure. Please let everybody know where
Speaker 1: they can find all your amazing work and your books.
Speaker 2: Your books.
Speaker 5: Thank you so much, Nick Headless, Eric, that was awesome.
Speaker 5: Thank you for sharing all your experiences and insights. I'm
Speaker 5: easy to find on all the social media and I
Speaker 5: appreciate anyone who reaches out to communicate. And yeah, so
Speaker 5: please support my books. Check out The Geometry of Energy
Speaker 5: if you're into meditation and so forth. And I got
Speaker 5: a bunch and again appreciate you, guys.
Speaker 2: I'll check it out for sure.
Speaker 1: I'm all about that nice and thank you tomorrow night
Speaker 1: if you think you can, I put him on the spot.
Speaker 1: But we do have I coming off and take a
Speaker 1: geometry so maybe if he makes it, we can get
Speaker 1: to a here time do a little bit of his
Speaker 1: thing again. I think it's at seven thirty pm s T. Tomorrow.
Speaker 2: Yes, I'll be investigating the during a state.
Speaker 1: Actually, you know who I have coming on, Leon Bowski.
Speaker 1: Both guys, whatever, both guys. The guy he was he
Speaker 1: had a booth dad too. He was the guy who
Speaker 1: was doing the numerology kind of like over in the
Speaker 1: corner a little bit. Yeah, he had the booth with
Speaker 1: numerous Yeah. Oh he had the great air beard. Oh
Speaker 1: the guy. All right, yeah, I'm pretty sure when I'll
Speaker 1: send it to you when after he comes on, I'm
Speaker 1: pretty sure you remember the dude. Yeah, set yep, yep.
Speaker 1: Another person from that uh from Charlie's uh, Charlie's Beyond Belief. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was another thing too. That's how I met Eric too.
Speaker 1: I met him at that event, so you know, he
Speaker 1: had the booth next to me with him.
Speaker 6: And oh, dude, when you come down for the next one.
Speaker 6: We'll set something up. Oh yeah, how about that?
Speaker 1: Definitely, definitely that would be badass. That'll be fun. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and at that time I'll make sure I'm like sending
Speaker 1: somebody else down with me too, So yeah, checking headless
Speaker 1: with me this time, all right, and headless real quick
Speaker 1: to let everybody know where they can find you as well, sir.
Speaker 4: Well, you can find me on Twitter and on Instagram
Speaker 4: Headless Giant, and if you're watching my videos that would
Speaker 4: be greatly appreciated on YouTube, so check those out as well.
Speaker 4: And if you have any strange or interesting emails about
Speaker 4: a dream or some sort of a cult experience you've had,
Speaker 4: send it to the Headless Giant podcast at gmail dot
Speaker 4: com and we will read those on Thursday. And when
Speaker 4: you send me an email, give me your address and
Speaker 4: Nick will give you stickers. Ado.
Speaker 1: Yes, very good. Yes, definitely check out again the trialogue
Speaker 1: and his new Alchemy show coming up with Auros up,
Speaker 1: which is looking forward to that. Man, thank you all again,
Speaker 1: Come on again, Eric, that was you know, it was awesome.
Speaker 1: That's so amazing that you got to go there. I'm
Speaker 1: very jealous. Hopefully maybe one day in the future we'll
Speaker 1: both meet each other. There'd be some wild ship. I'm
Speaker 1: sure we'll do it. Hell yeah, it'll be fun.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, we do a ritual type ship.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that and some gummies. We'll be all set.
Speaker 2: There you go, all right so with me? Thinks we'll
Speaker 2: get real crazy.
Speaker 4: Oh hell yeah, I can't wait.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 1: So yeah, everybody in the chat, thank you. That's what's up.
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. That's why we go alive. And that
Speaker 1: is the end of another reculd rejects and until the
Speaker 1: next one, everybody be well later