WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.200 --> 00:00:04.839 You see somethings going to happen. 2 00:00:06.320 --> 00:00:10.599 But what's going to happen? 3 00:00:12.400 --> 00:00:12.880 I'll take. 4 00:00:15.480 --> 00:00:22.719 What help. 5 00:00:24.679 --> 00:00:28.679 Welcome to the Occult Rejects. This episode, I got a 6 00:00:28.719 --> 00:00:32.240 very special guest, somebody had the pleasure of meeting. Uh yeah, 7 00:00:32.320 --> 00:00:33.960 I got to meet the person before they even came 8 00:00:34.000 --> 00:00:36.880 on the show, which is nice. It's a little different. 9 00:00:37.119 --> 00:00:38.880 I already know the guy's not crazy, so it felt 10 00:00:38.920 --> 00:00:42.719 comfortable having them all so and he definitely we definitely 11 00:00:42.759 --> 00:00:45.840 hit it off real well. Actually we you know, became 12 00:00:46.119 --> 00:00:49.000 kind of I guess both booth buddies real quick, and 13 00:00:49.280 --> 00:00:52.079 we both shared some common interests. And he is in 14 00:00:52.119 --> 00:00:55.560 the paranormal and he's got a really interesting place that 15 00:00:55.640 --> 00:00:57.640 he took a look at that I think actually fits 16 00:00:57.719 --> 00:01:03.880 this show perfectly. So before we introduce Eric and introduce 17 00:01:03.920 --> 00:01:06.079 the other rejects with me and we got my man, 18 00:01:06.079 --> 00:01:07.599 the Headless Giant. What is going on, sir? 19 00:01:07.680 --> 00:01:08.159 How are you? 20 00:01:09.319 --> 00:01:11.159 How you doing? I'm the Headless Giant. You can find 21 00:01:11.159 --> 00:01:15.200 me on YouTube or on Twitter and Instagram at the 22 00:01:15.200 --> 00:01:19.480 Headless Giant podcast. And also if you have any sort 23 00:01:19.480 --> 00:01:23.040 of interesting paranormal stories, like we're gonna be talking about tonight, 24 00:01:23.120 --> 00:01:26.159 about anything you can send them to my email at 25 00:01:26.159 --> 00:01:28.879 the Headless Giant Podcast at gmail dot com and we 26 00:01:28.920 --> 00:01:32.319 will read those out on Thursdays. And also i have 27 00:01:32.400 --> 00:01:36.560 a show with Ethan on Sundays called the Trialogus, and 28 00:01:36.840 --> 00:01:40.359 I'm doing a series on the rustic gods of Greece 29 00:01:40.760 --> 00:01:46.200 with Jewels usually on Fridays. And now I've got Alchemy Monday. 30 00:01:46.280 --> 00:01:49.239 So check out one of those shows and hit the 31 00:01:49.280 --> 00:01:51.879 bell and like and share the videos because I'm doing 32 00:01:51.920 --> 00:01:55.480 a lot nowadays. People taking it off from there. 33 00:01:55.799 --> 00:02:03.680 Ad Yes, definitely if you say than any stories please, Yeah, 34 00:02:03.799 --> 00:02:07.560 let people put in your information and I'll send out 35 00:02:07.599 --> 00:02:09.000 some stickers for you if you want to maild out. 36 00:02:09.159 --> 00:02:11.319 So there's an incentive to send in your story. I'll 37 00:02:11.360 --> 00:02:14.120 send you out eight. You know, very much like the magician, 38 00:02:14.400 --> 00:02:19.680 keep it magical. Look at eight stickers and yeah, just 39 00:02:20.120 --> 00:02:22.919 a reminder going forward to I got to look at 40 00:02:22.960 --> 00:02:24.719 the calendar. Actually, I can probably talk to you about 41 00:02:24.719 --> 00:02:27.360 it tomorrow Headless we can set up a date hopefully 42 00:02:27.439 --> 00:02:31.360 middle of October. We will start going through seven seven seven. 43 00:02:31.439 --> 00:02:35.759 Alista Crowley's book seven seven seven is basically the Bible, 44 00:02:38.400 --> 00:02:42.520 basically the Bible of Rituals and symbolism and all tons 45 00:02:42.520 --> 00:02:45.439 and tons of stuff, and it should definitely spur a 46 00:02:45.479 --> 00:02:49.560 lot of I guess, banter and probably self experience and 47 00:02:49.639 --> 00:02:53.479 whatever throughout the book, some of it at least, so 48 00:02:53.639 --> 00:02:57.159 it should be interesting. And yeah, that's it out of 49 00:02:57.240 --> 00:03:00.319 me and Ethan, my man, Ethan indigo. What is going on, sir? 50 00:03:00.360 --> 00:03:01.960 How are you? And thank you for making. 51 00:03:01.719 --> 00:03:04.960 It honored to be here with you, guys. I always 52 00:03:05.000 --> 00:03:08.719 learned so much from Nick and Hudless and Rick. Excuse me, Eric, 53 00:03:08.759 --> 00:03:10.280 I know this is going to be this is going 54 00:03:10.360 --> 00:03:14.840 to be dope. Thank you for bringing your presentation easy 55 00:03:14.879 --> 00:03:19.520 to find online right frequently. And yeah, like Heedless said 56 00:03:19.520 --> 00:03:22.599 on Sundays, we did the trialogue and I got a 57 00:03:22.599 --> 00:03:27.039 few books on Amazon too, So definitely appreciate everyone's support. 58 00:03:28.000 --> 00:03:33.360 No, thank you very much. And uh, finally the guests himself. 59 00:03:33.759 --> 00:03:37.879 We got Eric from the Haunted Files. What is going on, sir? 60 00:03:38.000 --> 00:03:40.000 Please let everybody know what you're doing. 61 00:03:40.319 --> 00:03:41.080 Damn sticker. 62 00:03:41.599 --> 00:03:44.080 Oh you should have taken them. They were all over 63 00:03:44.080 --> 00:03:45.800 the table. You probably thought you had to pay for them, right, 64 00:03:45.840 --> 00:03:50.240 he felt bad. I'll send him out to you after the. 65 00:03:50.199 --> 00:03:53.879 Show, Okay, Hell yeah, I'll plaster them all over my 66 00:03:54.240 --> 00:03:55.280 equipment box. 67 00:03:56.400 --> 00:03:59.520 They maybe I'll send you a shirt to think about that. 68 00:04:00.080 --> 00:04:01.680 In a crazy like someone to come on your show 69 00:04:01.680 --> 00:04:02.840 and starts singing azzy. 70 00:04:03.479 --> 00:04:05.199 I don't know. We're going to find out if I'm 71 00:04:05.199 --> 00:04:06.319 crazy after the show, right. 72 00:04:06.360 --> 00:04:09.400 Yeah, Well, if you're crazy, idea like my type of crazy, 73 00:04:10.039 --> 00:04:10.240 you know. 74 00:04:11.960 --> 00:04:16.279 But anyway, I'm Eric Vanderlan. I have a show called 75 00:04:16.279 --> 00:04:21.160 The Haunted Files on paraflex. It's the most futurew streaming 76 00:04:21.240 --> 00:04:24.839 right now. You can check it out. That's you can 77 00:04:24.959 --> 00:04:31.920 have it on your smart TV, YouTube, I'm not YouTube, Roku, 78 00:04:32.160 --> 00:04:35.839 Apple TV, all those, all those streaming platforms. You can 79 00:04:35.879 --> 00:04:41.000 go to paraflix dot com and if you want to subscribe, 80 00:04:41.439 --> 00:04:45.120 we do have a discount code which is the Haunted 81 00:04:45.160 --> 00:04:48.040 Files twenty five and you'll get twenty five percent off 82 00:04:48.040 --> 00:04:51.360 at the annual rate. And we're not the only show. 83 00:04:51.360 --> 00:04:55.079 There's a kind of amazing shows there. And we do 84 00:04:55.759 --> 00:04:58.839 have an episode that we're going to talk about tonight 85 00:04:58.920 --> 00:05:02.600 of a place that I've quit it but tied to 86 00:05:02.720 --> 00:05:06.000 mister Crowley in a way, yeah, Alistair Crowley. 87 00:05:07.800 --> 00:05:08.519 Yeah. 88 00:05:08.839 --> 00:05:09.800 Oh, and by the. 89 00:05:09.720 --> 00:05:13.040 Way, you can find me on Facebook as Eric Vanderlain, 90 00:05:13.160 --> 00:05:17.120 on Instagram as ghost Hunters of South Florida and I 91 00:05:17.240 --> 00:05:20.480 have a podcast live every Monday night, but it will 92 00:05:20.519 --> 00:05:22.720 be we're rebranding it, so we're going to be launching 93 00:05:22.759 --> 00:05:24.720 it next week called The Hunted Files. 94 00:05:24.800 --> 00:05:27.079 I'm like, so shut up. 95 00:05:27.439 --> 00:05:30.920 And I'll also stream on Facebook as well, the Hunted 96 00:05:30.959 --> 00:05:32.759 Files Facebook page. 97 00:05:33.439 --> 00:05:37.000 Awesome, Yes, and hopefully not put him on the spot, 98 00:05:37.040 --> 00:05:38.720 but I mean he's already told me. But I should 99 00:05:38.720 --> 00:05:40.560 be appearing on that show at some point, so definitely 100 00:05:40.639 --> 00:05:43.399 check it out. So check it out for that And 101 00:05:43.639 --> 00:05:47.959 uh yeah, Eric, before we even get into the spot 102 00:05:48.000 --> 00:05:51.000 that you went to, I guess kind of like with 103 00:05:51.040 --> 00:05:53.560 everybody with the paranormal, I always ask what was it 104 00:05:53.560 --> 00:05:56.000 they got you into the paranormal to begin with? 105 00:05:57.600 --> 00:06:00.360 Well, I actually got into this as being skep goal. 106 00:06:02.120 --> 00:06:05.279 That's pretty funny. I used to like when ghost Hunters 107 00:06:05.319 --> 00:06:08.000 came out, like I don't know, like twenty years ago, 108 00:06:09.120 --> 00:06:11.560 like that was like my favorite show. Like even when 109 00:06:11.600 --> 00:06:14.399 they like would go and investigate the place a place 110 00:06:14.480 --> 00:06:17.560 and they would say, like, you know, after researching it, 111 00:06:17.759 --> 00:06:21.240 you know, we determined that it's not it's not hanted. 112 00:06:22.000 --> 00:06:23.959 So yeah, that's what got me into it, and it 113 00:06:24.040 --> 00:06:27.160 was like more the locations and like things that were 114 00:06:27.199 --> 00:06:29.519 happening and they were getting and I was like, man, 115 00:06:29.600 --> 00:06:33.639 I would because I've always been into the unknown. I'm 116 00:06:33.639 --> 00:06:36.240 pretty old, so I used to like be watch like 117 00:06:36.399 --> 00:06:41.240 In Search of and all those shows, and yeah, So 118 00:06:41.519 --> 00:06:46.120 like I'm in South Florida, So we got some pretty 119 00:06:46.199 --> 00:06:48.439 crazy shit here. We have Saint Augustine, which is the 120 00:06:48.480 --> 00:06:50.879 oldest city in the US and probably one of the 121 00:06:51.040 --> 00:06:53.040 most haunted cities in the US. 122 00:06:53.560 --> 00:06:57.560 You got Saint No, you got Key West. 123 00:06:58.120 --> 00:07:02.040 In Spanish it's sky Away so, which in English means 124 00:07:02.120 --> 00:07:03.120 island of the Bones. 125 00:07:03.360 --> 00:07:07.519 That's how the Spanish discovered it. Key West was a burial. 126 00:07:07.920 --> 00:07:11.319 Site for the Tequesta, the Clusa Indians, so when they 127 00:07:11.399 --> 00:07:14.920 discovered there were bones all over the place, so super active. 128 00:07:15.600 --> 00:07:17.920 So I like, I don't know, maybe like about fifteen 129 00:07:18.000 --> 00:07:20.839 years ago, I just started dabbling into it on my own. 130 00:07:22.160 --> 00:07:25.399 I started going on ghost hunting tours and stuff. 131 00:07:25.079 --> 00:07:28.879 Like that, and then I joined up with the team 132 00:07:28.920 --> 00:07:35.439 in Miami and was with them for about three years. 133 00:07:35.879 --> 00:07:38.639 And then after that I went to War Party Paranormal 134 00:07:38.680 --> 00:07:43.800 and created the War Party Paranormal South team that blew 135 00:07:43.879 --> 00:07:47.120 up and no longer with the War parties just focusing 136 00:07:47.199 --> 00:07:50.759 on the haunted files, but I also do interactive events 137 00:07:50.800 --> 00:07:56.120 down in South Florida at historical haunted locations where people 138 00:07:56.199 --> 00:07:59.680 can you know, get to investigate hands on with all 139 00:07:59.720 --> 00:08:01.040 the whipment and everything. 140 00:08:01.120 --> 00:08:03.800 And I've been doing a lot of them. I mean 141 00:08:03.879 --> 00:08:04.800 I think I did. 142 00:08:04.920 --> 00:08:07.959 I've done fifteen already just at one location at the 143 00:08:08.040 --> 00:08:11.759 Daring Estate. I go there tomorrow night and Thursday night, 144 00:08:12.439 --> 00:08:15.399 but that's considered the most haunted location in Miami, and 145 00:08:15.639 --> 00:08:18.480 that place never gets old, and that location is the 146 00:08:18.519 --> 00:08:23.879 location that got like started everything for me. So yeah, 147 00:08:24.079 --> 00:08:26.920 And it was funny because like when I first got 148 00:08:26.920 --> 00:08:29.360 into the paranormal, it was like all about the equipment, 149 00:08:29.560 --> 00:08:32.759 trying to get evidence, wanting to know where the hotspots 150 00:08:32.799 --> 00:08:38.120 were setting my equipment wasn't getting shit, getting frustrated, and 151 00:08:38.159 --> 00:08:40.720 then when I went then when I went to the 152 00:08:40.960 --> 00:08:44.000 last team, they're a very eclectic group. 153 00:08:44.360 --> 00:08:47.360 We have psychic mediums, we have wickends. 154 00:08:46.799 --> 00:08:51.639 We had a pastor Reka master, and they all taught 155 00:08:51.639 --> 00:08:54.639 me little things that I incorporated, but mainly it's like 156 00:08:54.799 --> 00:08:58.279 your most important tool. It's not the equipment, it's your brain. 157 00:08:58.600 --> 00:09:00.879 And when you go into a lotion, you got to 158 00:09:00.919 --> 00:09:06.320 open up your mind and like, even like the subtleties 159 00:09:06.360 --> 00:09:10.120 you may think might be coincidental coincidental may not be 160 00:09:10.120 --> 00:09:13.399 because your mind is trying to rationalize things. 161 00:09:13.480 --> 00:09:15.240 So that's what I do now. 162 00:09:15.279 --> 00:09:18.840 I open my mind and it's almost like to a 163 00:09:18.919 --> 00:09:22.120 point where like I don't want to say like I'm 164 00:09:22.159 --> 00:09:25.519 intuitive or anything like that. Everyone has that. They just 165 00:09:26.279 --> 00:09:29.639 have levels of it. Most people don't are very low. 166 00:09:30.279 --> 00:09:32.399 But if you can, you can work on it and 167 00:09:32.440 --> 00:09:35.679 get it stronger. And that's what happened to me. So 168 00:09:35.879 --> 00:09:39.240 when I go to a location, I don't know why, 169 00:09:39.480 --> 00:09:45.919 but I follow whatever pulls me to a spot. 170 00:09:44.519 --> 00:09:45.960 Like gut feeling. 171 00:09:46.399 --> 00:09:48.840 I don't know what you call it, but like it 172 00:09:49.039 --> 00:09:51.759 just like when I walk into one room and I'm like, okay, 173 00:09:51.960 --> 00:09:55.399 something like a light bulb bring lights off, and I'm like, 174 00:09:55.600 --> 00:09:59.960 this is where I need to investigate and are toppy. 175 00:10:01.600 --> 00:10:04.360 Male ghost hunters are all equipped with their own dowsing rods, 176 00:10:04.360 --> 00:10:06.360 so it's not hard for us to find the right 177 00:10:06.360 --> 00:10:08.360 way to go right right. 178 00:10:08.919 --> 00:10:11.600 No, I do use dowsing rods. I use old school methods, 179 00:10:11.679 --> 00:10:12.639 news school. 180 00:10:16.080 --> 00:10:19.480 Your muted dowsing rods. I saw there was finally really 181 00:10:19.519 --> 00:10:21.519 got to see some Well, oh that's right. I watched 182 00:10:21.759 --> 00:10:24.360 Brook use them. Brook and somebody else had them with 183 00:10:24.399 --> 00:10:27.799 them the day before I met you. But even when 184 00:10:27.799 --> 00:10:30.080 I was at this last event, the leading next to 185 00:10:30.080 --> 00:10:32.080 me was actually like that was like kind of one 186 00:10:32.080 --> 00:10:34.240 of her gigs and she was even like selling them. 187 00:10:34.399 --> 00:10:36.399 But yeah, like that was her thing. Like whenever people 188 00:10:36.440 --> 00:10:38.799 sat down with her, like she was using those, she. 189 00:10:38.840 --> 00:10:39.600 Was pretty impressed. 190 00:10:39.879 --> 00:10:44.759 Stuff on douching rods. It's like when I do them, 191 00:10:44.840 --> 00:10:47.600 like at certain locations, like the dinnering is staated for example, 192 00:10:47.639 --> 00:10:48.240 it's crazy. 193 00:10:49.000 --> 00:10:52.519 Like I'll give like a perfect example. I always ask. 194 00:10:52.679 --> 00:10:55.200 Who doesn't believe in the paranormal, and I like always 195 00:10:55.200 --> 00:10:59.440 pick on them. So I'm doing a dowsing rods session 196 00:11:00.120 --> 00:11:04.399 and I got a spirit box going on, and I'm like, 197 00:11:04.840 --> 00:11:08.600 can you point both rode directly to the person that 198 00:11:08.639 --> 00:11:11.360 doesn't believe in spirits? And that points to the guy, 199 00:11:13.080 --> 00:11:16.279 and then I'm like, tell me what his name is? 200 00:11:17.080 --> 00:11:18.559 Spirit box is Alex? 201 00:11:18.679 --> 00:11:23.639 That was his name all in the same. 202 00:11:24.360 --> 00:11:27.000 It was pretty wild, and he was like, yeah, that's 203 00:11:27.000 --> 00:11:28.879 bugged out. 204 00:11:30.120 --> 00:11:31.360 Didn't change his mind. 205 00:11:31.120 --> 00:11:34.519 To what bit did it? Maybe I don't know. 206 00:11:37.360 --> 00:11:41.000 It's like it's like with me, like something crazy would happened, 207 00:11:41.000 --> 00:11:43.200 but I won't believe it because I'm like, God, there's 208 00:11:43.200 --> 00:11:44.440 got to be a reason for it. 209 00:11:45.799 --> 00:11:48.919 But then it takes me, like I don't know, like 210 00:11:48.960 --> 00:11:51.080 a day or so I'm like, damn, that shit really did. 211 00:11:50.879 --> 00:11:55.240 Happen, right that I've even thought of that too, with 212 00:11:55.320 --> 00:11:58.399 certain experiences I had, Like when it happened, I was 213 00:11:58.440 --> 00:11:59.840 just like I'll think about this tomorrow. 214 00:12:01.320 --> 00:12:03.279 No me, I'm like trying to find an answer. I'm like, 215 00:12:03.279 --> 00:12:08.879 there's got to be an explanation for this, right, But 216 00:12:08.799 --> 00:12:13.519 the location we're going to talk about, and I mean 217 00:12:13.600 --> 00:12:15.759 we got some crazy stuff from there, I mean to 218 00:12:15.840 --> 00:12:19.200 the point where like we were like, Okay, we gotta 219 00:12:19.240 --> 00:12:21.159 cut it and we gotta leave because it was just 220 00:12:21.159 --> 00:12:24.440 getting too much, like seriously, like being serious about it. 221 00:12:24.519 --> 00:12:27.440 Like it got to the point where like we're like, Okay, 222 00:12:27.519 --> 00:12:30.519 things are getting like a little weird and we gotta 223 00:12:30.639 --> 00:12:33.879 leave because things happened, like along the way, even like 224 00:12:34.360 --> 00:12:35.559 things started happening. 225 00:12:36.080 --> 00:12:37.200 Should I start talking about it? 226 00:12:38.159 --> 00:12:40.480 Well, well, well, actually, real quick, just what kind of 227 00:12:40.519 --> 00:12:42.039 equipment did you bring with you for this? 228 00:12:43.039 --> 00:12:43.320 Do you? 229 00:12:43.320 --> 00:12:43.759 Guys? 230 00:12:44.639 --> 00:12:48.639 So of course we were filming, so we had our cameras 231 00:12:49.200 --> 00:12:50.320 night vision as well. 232 00:12:51.320 --> 00:12:52.639 We have thermal cameras. 233 00:12:52.679 --> 00:12:56.600 We definitely need thermal cameras because this location is a 234 00:12:56.679 --> 00:13:03.279 prime location for python hunters. Yeah, in South Florida, we 235 00:13:03.360 --> 00:13:07.519 got a big python epidemic in the Everglades. 236 00:13:08.279 --> 00:13:12.240 So anyway, so yeah, we definitely needed therm. 237 00:13:12.320 --> 00:13:14.600 Well, we try to get there when it's light because 238 00:13:14.600 --> 00:13:16.039 we've got to check out the place to. 239 00:13:15.960 --> 00:13:17.919 Make sure we don't have any surprises that night. 240 00:13:19.480 --> 00:13:22.519 We got recorders because we're doing EVP sessions trying to 241 00:13:22.519 --> 00:13:24.240 get electronic voice phenomenon. 242 00:13:25.279 --> 00:13:26.240 We have data. 243 00:13:26.039 --> 00:13:29.799 Loggers that you know, they're going to measure changes in 244 00:13:29.840 --> 00:13:37.000 the atmosphere like temperature, EMF, humidity, pressure, even vibration. 245 00:13:37.639 --> 00:13:40.080 We had spirit boxes. 246 00:13:40.360 --> 00:13:42.799 That you know, if people don't understand what that is, 247 00:13:42.879 --> 00:13:45.960 they sweep it's like a it's a radio and it 248 00:13:46.080 --> 00:13:48.679 automatically sweeps to the stations and you hear the light 249 00:13:48.840 --> 00:13:51.720 noise and they say spirits can communicate through. 250 00:13:51.639 --> 00:13:55.039 That among other devices, and. 251 00:13:54.960 --> 00:13:58.679 That's that we could put on a backpack, like between 252 00:13:58.840 --> 00:14:00.360 the four of us that one there. 253 00:14:00.600 --> 00:14:04.679 It's awesome. It sounds like a lot of shit. Yep, nice, 254 00:14:04.840 --> 00:14:06.759 Do you want me to play the trailer before we 255 00:14:07.399 --> 00:14:08.519 before we talk about it. 256 00:14:09.360 --> 00:14:13.240 Yeah, that would like the people a visual what the 257 00:14:13.279 --> 00:14:17.080 place is like deep in the Florida Everglades. 258 00:14:17.799 --> 00:14:23.399 It's a one secret NASA contracted rocket test facility built 259 00:14:23.440 --> 00:14:27.240 in nineteen sixty three for the sole purpose of testing 260 00:14:27.320 --> 00:14:32.279 different types of rocket fuels to watch astronauts to now 261 00:14:32.320 --> 00:14:36.600 a hotspot for urban explorers and local python hunters. This 262 00:14:36.759 --> 00:14:40.639 facility is also still being used for satanic warship and 263 00:14:40.720 --> 00:14:41.720 a cool practices. 264 00:14:43.120 --> 00:14:47.799 We found actually like probably about a fifty foot pentagram, 265 00:14:48.320 --> 00:14:49.919 red spray painted pentagram. 266 00:14:50.000 --> 00:14:54.279 Yeah, that's that room. There's so many upside down crosses. 267 00:14:54.320 --> 00:14:58.519 In the middle of the pentagram was a three leggage 268 00:14:58.559 --> 00:14:59.799 chair and at the base of. 269 00:14:59.759 --> 00:15:03.600 That chair was what looked like a pretty large blood stain. 270 00:15:07.840 --> 00:15:09.440 What's the odds of this thing? 271 00:15:09.559 --> 00:15:14.360 Saying that same scene when we're here specifically looking to 272 00:15:14.440 --> 00:15:18.480 see if there's anything dark here to confirm what the 273 00:15:18.519 --> 00:15:19.600 python hunters found. 274 00:15:24.360 --> 00:15:27.039 It was a mud I got it on here. 275 00:15:29.240 --> 00:15:48.360 I heard that too, Yeah, I was pretty serious. 276 00:15:51.480 --> 00:15:55.320 It was due. It's just wild. 277 00:15:56.120 --> 00:15:58.799 That was the most bargain based metadelphic oracle I had 278 00:15:58.840 --> 00:16:01.039 ever seen. They got the three leg stool right in 279 00:16:01.080 --> 00:16:04.600 the middle of the uh pedagram with a bunch of 280 00:16:04.639 --> 00:16:05.600 pythons around. 281 00:16:05.720 --> 00:16:09.480 So come on, and you know what, that's not the 282 00:16:09.519 --> 00:16:13.720 only building where they're doing shit. I found another building 283 00:16:14.519 --> 00:16:16.960 because this is a big complex and it's spread out 284 00:16:16.960 --> 00:16:19.080 all over the place because they were firing the rocket 285 00:16:19.080 --> 00:16:23.120 engines out there in the Everglades. It was its massive 286 00:16:23.159 --> 00:16:25.559 and it's like all like it looks up hot ecalyptic. 287 00:16:25.639 --> 00:16:28.759 It's all overgrown and everything. So there's an other one, 288 00:16:29.960 --> 00:16:34.559 maybe like maybe like a quarter of a mile away 289 00:16:34.559 --> 00:16:38.200 from that building or I walked in and I don't know. 290 00:16:38.440 --> 00:16:40.240 I'm from South Florida, so we got a lot of 291 00:16:40.279 --> 00:16:42.759 different cultures down here, and people practice a lot of 292 00:16:42.799 --> 00:16:46.120 weird shit here. I don't know if they were practicing 293 00:16:46.159 --> 00:16:50.639 some type of santoria or black magic or voodoo. 294 00:16:51.440 --> 00:16:53.159 But it was the weirdest thing I've ever seen. 295 00:16:53.759 --> 00:16:59.039 You know what beanie babies are, right Well, there were 296 00:16:59.200 --> 00:17:03.639 like I don't know, maybe eight dora to explore beanie 297 00:17:03.720 --> 00:17:07.960 babies in this one building, but they were strategically placed 298 00:17:08.039 --> 00:17:11.559 in different spots. It was really weird, Like why would 299 00:17:11.599 --> 00:17:15.640 someone go three miles out into the Everglades and the 300 00:17:15.640 --> 00:17:17.440 only way to get there is by foot or bike 301 00:17:18.160 --> 00:17:22.839 just to do that, right, Yeah, I mean people have 302 00:17:22.920 --> 00:17:27.640 found bodies from people that were missing, on dead bodies. 303 00:17:27.680 --> 00:17:32.319 We've heard there's somebody voices there. Maybe like three months 304 00:17:32.319 --> 00:17:35.519 ago they found another body out there. It's a perfect 305 00:17:35.559 --> 00:17:39.160 spot to like dumple body. It's crazy. 306 00:17:41.559 --> 00:17:43.680 So, like, I guess, so what was it like? Like 307 00:17:43.960 --> 00:17:45.519 kind of like me if you don't mind, maybe even 308 00:17:45.519 --> 00:17:47.440 take us through, Like as you were pulling up to 309 00:17:47.480 --> 00:17:49.839 the place, like was there any like how was did 310 00:17:49.880 --> 00:17:51.880 that even feel like ominous or anything? 311 00:17:52.720 --> 00:17:56.000 Well, this is what's crazy and talking about like nothing's 312 00:17:56.160 --> 00:17:58.680 I Sometimes I don't think a lot of things are 313 00:17:58.559 --> 00:18:03.240 y are coincidental. So we've been planning to do this 314 00:18:03.440 --> 00:18:08.440 trip because South Florida it gets really hot and if 315 00:18:08.440 --> 00:18:11.440 you're in the middle of the Everglades, you don't realize 316 00:18:11.839 --> 00:18:13.720 how bad the bugs are. 317 00:18:14.160 --> 00:18:15.839 It gets so freaking buggy. 318 00:18:15.960 --> 00:18:18.559 Like I got one episode where you can just see 319 00:18:18.720 --> 00:18:22.440 we're in IR video and an IR and you can 320 00:18:22.680 --> 00:18:25.720 night vision. You can see like swarms of mosquitoes going 321 00:18:25.759 --> 00:18:28.480 over my head. So we always try to do it 322 00:18:29.000 --> 00:18:32.400 on cool months and we don't get a lot of 323 00:18:32.400 --> 00:18:36.039 them down here in South Florida. So we planned a 324 00:18:36.119 --> 00:18:41.240 time to go there and Mike, my partner, and we 325 00:18:41.279 --> 00:18:46.079 had this other guy, Joe and my girlfriend Franny with us. Now, 326 00:18:46.119 --> 00:18:49.480 Frandie and I are smart, you know, we take our bikes, 327 00:18:49.559 --> 00:18:54.559 but Joe and Mike they're lazy. They like to take 328 00:18:54.599 --> 00:18:58.880 electric scooters and they got to be fully charged. I mean, 329 00:18:58.920 --> 00:19:01.079 there was a time we went there before and Mike 330 00:19:01.319 --> 00:19:03.920 like was just pushing it to the limit and ended 331 00:19:03.960 --> 00:19:05.759 up running out of juice and had to walk the 332 00:19:05.799 --> 00:19:07.160 thing for a couple of miles back. 333 00:19:07.200 --> 00:19:10.680 And those things are pretty heavy. So anyway, when we 334 00:19:10.759 --> 00:19:12.759 tried to make that. 335 00:19:12.680 --> 00:19:16.920 First attempt to film this location, Mike had like it 336 00:19:17.000 --> 00:19:18.559 was like pretty much a brand new scooter. 337 00:19:18.759 --> 00:19:20.720 He had checked it out. He never had a problem 338 00:19:20.720 --> 00:19:21.079 with it. 339 00:19:21.960 --> 00:19:25.920 It completely was dead when we were there, so it 340 00:19:26.000 --> 00:19:27.799 was like like I felt like it was almost like 341 00:19:27.839 --> 00:19:29.960 a sign like someone didn't want to want us. 342 00:19:29.880 --> 00:19:34.000 To go there. So we rescheduled, went back. 343 00:19:34.119 --> 00:19:37.400 I think maybe it was like a month later, and 344 00:19:38.480 --> 00:19:41.039 we started biking there and it was a little bit 345 00:19:41.119 --> 00:19:45.160 warm during the day and we're all on backpacks and 346 00:19:45.200 --> 00:19:47.559 there's stuff with as much equipment as you. 347 00:19:47.559 --> 00:19:48.079 Can put on. 348 00:19:48.400 --> 00:19:52.920 And my girlfriend Franny, she's like trying to be like 349 00:19:53.000 --> 00:19:55.680 one of the guys, but she's like you've seen her. 350 00:19:55.720 --> 00:19:57.279 Next she's like five to one. 351 00:19:57.200 --> 00:20:02.000 Five to two, and she's packed like we are riding 352 00:20:02.039 --> 00:20:06.680 a bike. So we get to one shot and actually yeah, 353 00:20:06.720 --> 00:20:09.440 and we get to one spot to take a break, 354 00:20:09.519 --> 00:20:14.200 and all of a sudden, she falls down and she's 355 00:20:14.200 --> 00:20:16.559 sitting on the ground and we're looking at her, and 356 00:20:16.599 --> 00:20:18.799 all of a sudden, her eyes roll back and she 357 00:20:18.920 --> 00:20:22.160 passes out, falls backwards, and Mike's like, dude, we got 358 00:20:22.200 --> 00:20:26.759 to take her to the hospital within this within like 359 00:20:26.839 --> 00:20:29.599 a no, no, like not even a minute. She got up 360 00:20:29.680 --> 00:20:32.839 and she said she was fine. But when she got up, 361 00:20:33.960 --> 00:20:35.960 she turned to the side and there's this big ass 362 00:20:36.079 --> 00:20:40.359 rock with the pentagram symbol on it. So I don't 363 00:20:40.359 --> 00:20:44.079 know if that was like some type of sign, so 364 00:20:45.200 --> 00:20:47.759 we probably shouldn't have pushed it, but she wants she 365 00:20:47.799 --> 00:20:50.200 didn't want to go back, so she wanted to continue, 366 00:20:50.319 --> 00:20:54.680 so we ended up going and then we just started 367 00:20:54.680 --> 00:20:58.119 getting like crazy evidence while we were investigating throughout the night. 368 00:20:58.200 --> 00:21:01.640 But just like trying to there was like quite a mission. 369 00:21:05.680 --> 00:21:07.359 So do you think this place is cursed? 370 00:21:08.839 --> 00:21:10.279 Well, this is what I think. 371 00:21:10.680 --> 00:21:16.240 So if people don't know the history of aerojet. They 372 00:21:16.279 --> 00:21:19.720 also have they have a facility in California, and I 373 00:21:19.839 --> 00:21:24.519 believe Jack Parsons like either. 374 00:21:24.359 --> 00:21:26.559 Ran it or own it. He had a strong tipe 375 00:21:26.599 --> 00:21:27.559 to aerojet. 376 00:21:28.359 --> 00:21:30.839 And if people don't know who Jack Parsons is, he 377 00:21:30.960 --> 00:21:36.240 was the father of rocketry, very smart person, but he 378 00:21:36.279 --> 00:21:37.759 also dabbled into the occult. 379 00:21:38.480 --> 00:21:42.279 That's why I'm on this show. Yes, and he was. 380 00:21:42.400 --> 00:21:45.359 And if anyone knows who Alistair Crowley is, she was 381 00:21:45.359 --> 00:21:49.440 like like pretty much a disciple of Alistair Crowley. So 382 00:21:50.240 --> 00:21:54.759 I think that people that are dabbling those type of 383 00:21:54.759 --> 00:21:59.640 things down in South Florida found out about that. They 384 00:21:59.680 --> 00:22:02.559 went there to start practicing things. I don't know, maybe 385 00:22:02.680 --> 00:22:06.759 to like pay homage to them. Maybe they thought they 386 00:22:06.799 --> 00:22:11.279 can get I don't know, like they were like procting 387 00:22:11.319 --> 00:22:14.359 black magic. Maybe the magic was stronger. I don't know. 388 00:22:18.359 --> 00:22:24.680 Well, it's interesting the technological companies that were involved with 389 00:22:24.880 --> 00:22:31.319 anything related to nuclear technology, which aerojet and ballistic missiles 390 00:22:31.359 --> 00:22:36.240 and rocketry, right, I don't know the extent of their involvement, 391 00:22:36.279 --> 00:22:40.000 but I know they're involved. It's interesting that that you 392 00:22:40.000 --> 00:22:42.960 would think on the surface it wouldn't be so tied 393 00:22:43.000 --> 00:22:46.519 to the occult. And esoteric and paranormal. But as it 394 00:22:46.559 --> 00:22:51.039 turns out, the Manhattan Project even that they were saying 395 00:22:51.079 --> 00:22:55.480 that there was sighting of UFOs, if you will, but 396 00:22:55.759 --> 00:22:58.200 other kind of there's a lot of. 397 00:22:58.160 --> 00:22:59.079 Shit we don't know. 398 00:22:59.519 --> 00:23:02.839 I mean, And I actually my ex brother in law 399 00:23:02.960 --> 00:23:05.599 is a retired colonel in the Air Force, and he 400 00:23:05.680 --> 00:23:09.359 used to work for the Pentagon, and I. 401 00:23:09.319 --> 00:23:12.079