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<v Speaker 1>Good morning, everybody. Corey's blood history. So we're just gonna

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<v Speaker 1>hop back into it today. We're going to pick up

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<v Speaker 1>in this David Ferry file the report of the investigator

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<v Speaker 1>who conducted surveillance on David Ferry's apartment, dated twelve, nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>sixty two. A surveillance was maintained at Faerriy's residence from

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<v Speaker 1>five thirty pm to eleven thirty pm on Friday, November sixteenth,

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen sixty two by Jack Oliphant. Ferry came home about

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<v Speaker 1>seven to fifteen pm by himself and went into his house.

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<v Speaker 1>At eight fifteen pm, Ferry and two men who appeared

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<v Speaker 1>to be about his own age, walked away from Ferry's

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<v Speaker 1>home and got into an automobile with nineteen sixty two

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<v Speaker 1>Louisiana license one nine zero seven point eight. Olifant had

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<v Speaker 1>been instructed to record activity at the house and not

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<v Speaker 1>to follow cars away from the house, since it was

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<v Speaker 1>believed more important to determine who came to see him.

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<v Speaker 1>This car came back at eleven PM and Ferry got

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<v Speaker 1>out and went into his house. There was no further activity.

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<v Speaker 1>Nineteen sixty two license one nine zero seven one eight

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<v Speaker 1>is issued to Dante Maraccini, thirteen oh nine Dauphin Street

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<v Speaker 1>for a nineteen fifty one Pontiac. The following investigation was

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<v Speaker 1>conducted by Edward M. Davis on November seventeenth, nineteen sixty two.

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<v Speaker 1>The following observations were made at three three three zero

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<v Speaker 1>Louisiana Avenue Parkway in New Orleans, Louisiana. The observation commenced

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<v Speaker 1>at approximately six thirty pm. At this time, the subject's automobile,

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<v Speaker 1>a nineteen sixty four bearing nineteen sixty two Louisiana license

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<v Speaker 1>three zero zero six zero one, was absent from in

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<v Speaker 1>front of the above address. At seven thirty pm, subject

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<v Speaker 1>arrived in the above automobile alone. He parked in front

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<v Speaker 1>of thirty three thirty Louisiana Avenue Parkway and entered the house.

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<v Speaker 1>At eight twenty five PM, a nineteen fifty four Ford

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<v Speaker 1>Tutor sedan bearing nineteen sixty two Louisiana licensed three one

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<v Speaker 1>one six four to one with three boys in the car,

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<v Speaker 1>arrived in front of the subject's home. They parked the

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<v Speaker 1>car and all entered the home at three three three

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<v Speaker 1>zero Louisiana Avenue Parkway. Shortly thereafter, two of the boys

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<v Speaker 1>left the subjects home and walked in the direction of

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<v Speaker 1>South Broadway. The driver of this car is approximately eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>years of age, six feet tall, slender build, brown hair,

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<v Speaker 1>was wearing an orange colored short sleeved shirt and dark

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<v Speaker 1>colored slacks. The second boy was approximately sixteen years of

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<v Speaker 1>age five feet eight inches tall, medium billed, brown hair

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<v Speaker 1>with high wavy front. He was wearing a plaid shirt

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<v Speaker 1>and dark slacks. The third boy was approximately fifteen years

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<v Speaker 1>of age, slender, five feet six inches tall, had fair complexion,

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<v Speaker 1>light brown hair, was wearing light tan slacks and a

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<v Speaker 1>light blue shirt. The latter two boys were the ones

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<v Speaker 1>that left and walked towards South broad They were turned

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<v Speaker 1>turned at nine to twenty pm and entered the Ford

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<v Speaker 1>with Louisiana Licensed three one one sixty four to one.

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<v Speaker 1>At approximately nine thirty five pm, the driver of the

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<v Speaker 1>car left subjects home and returned to the above car

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<v Speaker 1>with the two boys therein and they departed driving to

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<v Speaker 1>South broad They parked at a bus stop near Broadmoor

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<v Speaker 1>drug Store on the corner of South broad and Washington Streets.

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<v Speaker 1>The second boy left the car and entered the drug store.

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<v Speaker 1>After a few minutes, he returned to the car and

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<v Speaker 1>they left, driving north on Broad Street. The observation continued

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<v Speaker 1>at thirty three thirty Louisiana Avenue Parkway, New Orleans until

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<v Speaker 1>eleven pm. Subject had no other visitors during the above period.

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<v Speaker 1>The following observations were made at thirty three thirty Louisiana

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<v Speaker 1>Avenue Parkway, November eighteen sixty two, commencing at six fifteen pm.

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<v Speaker 1>No activity was noted at this time. Subjects nineteen sixty

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<v Speaker 1>Ford was parked in front of his home. At eight

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen pm, Subject departed from his home leading his dog.

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<v Speaker 1>They walked in the direction of South Claiborne for a

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<v Speaker 1>short distance, then returned and walked towards South Broad. He

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<v Speaker 1>returned to his home at eight thirty pm and entered

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<v Speaker 1>the house with the dog. I wonder what David Ferry's

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<v Speaker 1>dog's name was. At nine oh five pm, Subject left

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<v Speaker 1>his house, entered his car, and drove to South Claiborne,

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<v Speaker 1>turned left on Claiborne and drove north. He returned at

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<v Speaker 1>approximately nine thirty. No activity was noted at thirty three

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<v Speaker 1>thirty Louisiana Avenue Parkway, and the observation was discontinued at

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<v Speaker 1>ten fifteen PM. A spot check was made in the

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<v Speaker 1>vicinity of Columbus in North broad Street and nineteen fifty

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<v Speaker 1>four Ford bearing Louisiana license three one one sixty four

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<v Speaker 1>to one was observed park near the corner of Columbus

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<v Speaker 1>and North Dorjianois. No one was observed in or near

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<v Speaker 1>the car. Spot check was made at one three one

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<v Speaker 1>one North Prior Prieu R and nothing pertin was observed.

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<v Speaker 1>On November nineteenth, nineteen sixty two, confidential source the Motor

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<v Speaker 1>Vehicle Division advised that nineteen sixty two Louisiana Registration one

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<v Speaker 1>nine seven one seventy three is issued to James R.

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<v Speaker 1>Lleuallen spelled L E W A L L E N

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<v Speaker 1>thirteen oh nine Dauphine Street, Apartment nine, New Orleans for

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen fifty four red Pontiac convertible coup motor number P

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<v Speaker 1>eight z A five five nine one six Louisiana title

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<v Speaker 1>number M seven seven six five one six with a

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<v Speaker 1>lean in favor of GMAC in Cleveland, Ohio. The car

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<v Speaker 1>was purchased new on August thirtieth, nineteen fifty four, from

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<v Speaker 1>Tony Dittz Pontiac Company, Cleveland, Ohio, for two thousand, forty

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<v Speaker 1>five dollars. Ohio title number is one eight four two

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<v Speaker 1>one nine five six. Llew Isllan's occupation is shown as pilot.

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<v Speaker 1>That's interesting because I have it that he was working

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<v Speaker 1>at a car rental place at the time. The following

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<v Speaker 1>surveillance of the subject's residents was initiated. On November twenty third,

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<v Speaker 1>sixty two by Jack Oliphant and Charles Branton. At seven

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<v Speaker 1>thirty pm, a car drove up and a young boy

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<v Speaker 1>got out and went into Ferry's apartment Louisiana licensed three

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<v Speaker 1>one one sixty four to one. At seven forty pm,

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<v Speaker 1>another car Louisiana license one nine seven one seven three

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<v Speaker 1>with a young boy driving arrived and the boy got

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<v Speaker 1>out and went into the house. These two cars and

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<v Speaker 1>boys have been to Ferry's apartment before. On November eleventh,

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen sixty two, at eight pm, a car stopped half

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<v Speaker 1>a block from Ferry's apartment, and the driver, about five

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<v Speaker 1>foot five inches two hundred and fifty pounds forty five

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<v Speaker 1>to fifty years of age, wore glasses, got out and

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<v Speaker 1>came to Ferry's apartment. He went inside, stayed five minutes,

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<v Speaker 1>came back out, got in his car and drove off

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<v Speaker 1>his license number as Louisiana three two seven nine three

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<v Speaker 1>eight hmm. Who could that be? Five foot five, two

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and fifty pounds. At eight thirty pm, three persons

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<v Speaker 1>came out and talked for ten minutes. Then the young

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<v Speaker 1>boy in the car got in and left. Ferry and

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<v Speaker 1>the other mail went back into the apartment. At ten

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<v Speaker 1>ten pm, Ferry and the boy came out and another

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<v Speaker 1>boy was with them. This is the first time the

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<v Speaker 1>third boy was observed. The two boys got into car

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<v Speaker 1>Llewellen's car and left. Ferry took his dog for a walk.

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<v Speaker 1>At ten thirty pm, the same two boys came back

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<v Speaker 1>with a six pack of beer and went inside the

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<v Speaker 1>subject's house. No activity was noted until one thirty am

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<v Speaker 1>November twenty fourth, when the two boys and Ferry came

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<v Speaker 1>out of the house. One of the boys, the number

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<v Speaker 1>three boy, had some clothing with him. These two boys

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<v Speaker 1>got into the car and drove off. Ferry went back

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<v Speaker 1>in turned off the light. The two boys were followed

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<v Speaker 1>to Nashville and Patton Street, where the one boy got

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<v Speaker 1>out and went into a two story house on the

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<v Speaker 1>corner of the six hundred block right side, going toward

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<v Speaker 1>the river. The boy went in the front door on Nashville.

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<v Speaker 1>The other boy drove off and headed toward town. The

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<v Speaker 1>surveillance was discontinued at two am. On December third, nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>sixty two, a pretext interview was made by Ronald Hubner

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<v Speaker 1>at six oh four Nashville Avenue to attempt to determine

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<v Speaker 1>the identity of the young man who was seen leaving

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<v Speaker 1>Ferry's apartment and going to that address on November twenty third,

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen sixty two. An elderly woman at six oh four

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<v Speaker 1>Nashville advised that the house was owned by doctor Cormack.

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<v Speaker 1>He has no children and there are no young people

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<v Speaker 1>in the neighborhood except for the son of a woman

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<v Speaker 1>who lives in six oh eight next door to mister Cormack.

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<v Speaker 1>The name of these people given was Martin's, so it

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<v Speaker 1>was Leighton Martin's, and the woman advised that the sun

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<v Speaker 1>is about nineteen years old and attends school in Lafayette, Louisiana,

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<v Speaker 1>comes home only on weekends and holidays. The city directory

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<v Speaker 1>was searched for miss for missus Martin's, but of the

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<v Speaker 1>three listed, none are shown as residing at six o'

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<v Speaker 1>eight Nashville. December fourth, nineteen sixty two, a call was

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<v Speaker 1>made to Telephone Information Service for a phone in the

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<v Speaker 1>name of Martin's at six oh eight Nashville Avenue. The

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<v Speaker 1>operator asked if this could be six oh six instead

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<v Speaker 1>of six oh eight, and when told that it could

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<v Speaker 1>be that number, she said that she had Mary Ellen

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<v Speaker 1>Martin's there, but then said that it was a non

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<v Speaker 1>listed number and she could not give out the information.

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<v Speaker 1>Following the investigation conducted by Edward Davis on November twenty fourth,

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<v Speaker 1>sixty two, the following observation was made at thirty three

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<v Speaker 1>thirty Louisiana Avenue Parkway, New Orleans. The subject's car in

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen sixty four was observed parked in front of the

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<v Speaker 1>address at five thirty pm. At seven thirty pm, the

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<v Speaker 1>subject departed his home and left in his car. He

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<v Speaker 1>drove to the Broadmoor drug Store corner of North Broad

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<v Speaker 1>and Washington Streets, left the car and entered the drug store.

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<v Speaker 1>He was observed making a telephone call from the telephone

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<v Speaker 1>just inside above the store. At seven forty pm, subject

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<v Speaker 1>returned to his home and entered the house. The observation

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<v Speaker 1>was discontinued at approximately ten pm. Subject had no visitors

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<v Speaker 1>and no activity was noted other than the stated above.

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<v Speaker 1>On November twenty fifth, nineteen sixty two, the following observation

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<v Speaker 1>was made at thirty three thirty Louisiana Avenue Parkway. Seems

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<v Speaker 1>like we're backing up a little. The observation commenced at

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<v Speaker 1>five pm. This time, the subjects autombile in nineteen sixty

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<v Speaker 1>four was not parked in front of his residence at

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<v Speaker 1>the above address. At approximately six pm, subject arrived at

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<v Speaker 1>his home and left the car and entered his house.

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<v Speaker 1>At six fifty five pm, Subject departed from his house

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<v Speaker 1>and left in his automobile. He drove towards South Clayborne,

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<v Speaker 1>turned right onto Clayborne. The observation was continued at thirty

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<v Speaker 1>three thirty Louisiana Avenue Parkway, and at ten fifty five

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<v Speaker 1>PM Subject returned home and entered the house. Eleven fifteen PM,

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<v Speaker 1>the observation was discontinued. During the above periods, knowne was

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<v Speaker 1>observed entering or leaving the subject's home. The Motor Vehicle Division,

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<v Speaker 1>Louisiana Department of Revenue, three twenty five Loyola Avenue advised

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<v Speaker 1>George L. Risley on November twenty sixth, nineteen sixty two,

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<v Speaker 1>that the nineteen sixty two Louisiana registration three two seven

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<v Speaker 1>nine thirty eight is listed to Henry J. Winkler, eight

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<v Speaker 1>hundred Oaks Long Drive, Metairie, Louisiana, the licenses for a

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen sixty two Ford Falcon futura. Huh does anybody recall

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<v Speaker 1>what color he said that this thing was? Could it

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<v Speaker 1>possibly be light blue? Which would make mister Henry J.

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<v Speaker 1>Winkler an accessory to the crime guys in the chat?

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<v Speaker 1>If you want to pull up what you count on,

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<v Speaker 1>Henry J. Winkler Oddsar, Louisiana, resident, eight hundred Oaklawn mitterary.

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<v Speaker 1>The nineteen sixty one New Orleans City Directory reflects Henry J. Winkler,

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<v Speaker 1>wife Maury reside at three two two eight Saint Claude Avenue.

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<v Speaker 1>Also Henry J. Winkler Real Estate thirty four to twenty

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<v Speaker 1>one South Claiborne. Audrey Winkler Stenographic Clerk, Louisiana Division of

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<v Speaker 1>Employment Security is also listed at thirty four to twenty

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<v Speaker 1>one South Claiborne. Nineteen sixty two New Orleans Suburban Area

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<v Speaker 1>city directory reflects no alphabetical listing for Winkler. There's no

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<v Speaker 1>listing for municipal number eight hundred Oklawn Drive in this

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<v Speaker 1>directory or in the telephone street address directory issued for

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<v Speaker 1>December of nineteen sixty two. Then it just says pending.

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<v Speaker 1>Next page appears to be an Eastern Airlines internal memo

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<v Speaker 1>Ronald Hubner to Ronald Hubner from Chase Carson, date July sixteenth,

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen sixty three, referenced David Ferry. The records of that

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<v Speaker 1>one case in Jefferson Parish were refused. They were viewed, however,

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<v Speaker 1>and the pertinent contents were the same statements sent to

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<v Speaker 1>Miami yesterday in New Orleans case h H eighty five

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<v Speaker 1>oh seven, Dash sixty one and closed with the police

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<v Speaker 1>reports and statements of John T. Cater which make up

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<v Speaker 1>the record. In B seven nine oh four Dash six two,

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<v Speaker 1>Juvenile Bureau, February eighteen, nineteen sixty two, Item B seven

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<v Speaker 1>nine oh four sixty two to Joseph I. Jeruso, Superintendent

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<v Speaker 1>of Police from Mayor Adolph ah Nice strong name from

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<v Speaker 1>Major Adolph Meierhoffer. Oh, what a good German name, Supervisor

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<v Speaker 1>of Juvenile Bureau. Subject investigation of extortion allegedly committed by

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<v Speaker 1>David W. Ferry, aged forty one, of three thirty one

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<v Speaker 1>Atherton Drive. So we're backing up now into the investigation

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<v Speaker 1>of the allegations against him, the extortion allegation involving Eric Frusche.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's see Ronald Fournier and Charles Jeneaux of the

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<v Speaker 1>Juvenile Bureau report of having investigated a matter involving extortion

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<v Speaker 1>allegedly committed by David Ferry, white male, aged forty one

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<v Speaker 1>of three thirty one Athterton Drive, on February sixteenth, nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>sixty two, at ten am Fourtyer the writer of this report,

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<v Speaker 1>in company with Jehaneau. Additionally, report of having conducted investigations

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<v Speaker 1>involving David Ferry in the past four months, which began

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<v Speaker 1>on August sixteenth, nineteen sixty one. Officers Fournier and Jeanneaux

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<v Speaker 1>ethest report. Investigating officers conducted investigations in August and September

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<v Speaker 1>of nineteen sixty one, which led to the arrest of

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<v Speaker 1>David Ferry, which investigations resulted in charges of contributing to

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<v Speaker 1>the delinquency of a minor, indecent behavior with juveniles, crimes

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<v Speaker 1>against nature, and public intimidation. Charges against Ferry were accepted

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<v Speaker 1>in New Orleans and Jefferson parishes. In the impending cases

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<v Speaker 1>against Ferry won Eric Michael Cruchet, White, Maile, aged sixteen

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<v Speaker 1>of fifty five oh five Marey Street, is a witness.

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<v Speaker 1>On the morning of February sixteenth, nineteen sixty two, investigating

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<v Speaker 1>officer Furty A received a phone call from the father

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<v Speaker 1>of Eric Cruschet, who complained that a friend of his,

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<v Speaker 1>John T. Cater, white male, aged forty one oh five

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<v Speaker 1>four to five forur Dauphine Street, had been intimidated and

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<v Speaker 1>that Ferry had made arrangements for a meeting with Cater

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<v Speaker 1>after telling Kater that he Ferry had a proposition to

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<v Speaker 1>discuss Mister Kruschet explained to investigating officers that Cater was

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<v Speaker 1>frightened and that Cater contacted him informing him. Cruche that

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<v Speaker 1>Ferry wanted to meet. Cruchet told officers that he instructed

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<v Speaker 1>Cater to go along with Ferry with the idea of

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<v Speaker 1>notifying authorities. Cater and Ferry made arrangements to meet at

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<v Speaker 1>Canal and Barone Street at ten am February sixteenth, nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>sixty two, in front of the Walgreen's drug store. Mister

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<v Speaker 1>Cruchet asked investigating officers if they would attempt to witness

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<v Speaker 1>this meeting. At nine fifty am on February sixteenth, nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>sixty two, officers took up a position at Lord's Department

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<v Speaker 1>Store for Women on Canal and Baron, across the street

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<v Speaker 1>from the Walgreen's drug store. Immediately upon arrival, officers noticed

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<v Speaker 1>that David Ferry standing in front of the drug store

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<v Speaker 1>with dark glasses on. Officers observed that Ferry kept walking

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<v Speaker 1>in and out of the drug store for about ten minutes,

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<v Speaker 1>and he came outside and disappeared from officer's view after

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<v Speaker 1>he began walking up Canal Street in the direction of

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<v Speaker 1>Clayborne Avenue. Investigating officers did not attempt to pick up

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<v Speaker 1>Ferry again, as Faerry is thoroughly acquainted with them. Officers

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<v Speaker 1>waited until approximately noon on February sixteenth, nineteen sixty two,

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<v Speaker 1>and went to the home of mister Cruschet, where mister

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<v Speaker 1>Cater was found. Cater had arrived shortly before the arrival

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<v Speaker 1>of officers. Mister Cruschet explained that mister Cater was a

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<v Speaker 1>friend of his and had been for three years. Officers

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<v Speaker 1>observed that Cater was very nervous at the time. Stated

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<v Speaker 1>that Ferry had met him at the designated time and

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<v Speaker 1>location and they had driven off in a car operated

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<v Speaker 1>by a subject known only to him as Butch Huh,

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<v Speaker 1>which of Fairy's friends was known as Butch. Cater told

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<v Speaker 1>officers that they drove him to Tulane Avenue into a

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<v Speaker 1>Carrollton section to a Royal Castle restaurant. During the ride,

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<v Speaker 1>they discussed the cases pending against Ferry. Cater explained to

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<v Speaker 1>officers that Ferry asked him to get Mike Cruche to

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<v Speaker 1>change his mind about testifying againainst him. Kater told officers

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<v Speaker 1>it Fairry threatened that if Crusche gave a testimony against him,

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<v Speaker 1>Fairry that he Faerry would get him Cater involved in

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<v Speaker 1>a sex ring. Cater stated that Ferry told him that

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<v Speaker 1>he had affid David's by many boys who'd accuse Kter

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<v Speaker 1>of having sex parties at his house. For further details,

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<v Speaker 1>see the attached statement made by Cater taken at the

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<v Speaker 1>Juvenile Bureau by investigating officers. Cater stated additionally that the

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<v Speaker 1>meeting took place in a Chevrolet convertible, but he did

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<v Speaker 1>Butchkter said also that he had never known or seen

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<v Speaker 1>Captain David Ferry in all his life, and that he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't understand how Ferry had obtained his name and phone

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<v Speaker 1>number at work. Investigating officers consulted with Assistant District Attorney

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<v Speaker 1>Richard cether Si se I T H E R in

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<v Speaker 1>this matter, and he advised officers to question Ferry and

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<v Speaker 1>present a report to the District Attorney's office. Investigating officers

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<v Speaker 1>went to the home of David Ferry at three thirty

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<v Speaker 1>one hours and drive at three thirty pm on February sixteenth,

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen sixty two, in company with Sergeant Joseph Barns of

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<v Speaker 1>the Jefferson Parish Sheriff's Office. On arrival of officers at

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<v Speaker 1>were standing around the front lawn of Ferry's residents. Ferry

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<v Speaker 1>came to the door invited officers to enter. Upon entering,

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<v Speaker 1>officers recognized Lawrence Marsh White, male, aged nineteen to forty

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<v Speaker 1>four or four Majestic Oak Street in Gretna, Louisiana, known

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<v Speaker 1>to the officers as butch Ah So we got Lawrence Marsh,

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<v Speaker 1>known as Butch in previous investigations, Ferry was placed under arrest.

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<v Speaker 1>Ferry admitted being downtown at Canal and Baron at ten

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<v Speaker 1>am on two, sixteen sixty two, but refused to say

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<v Speaker 1>why he'd gone to this location. He stated only that

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<v Speaker 1>he'd gone to meet somebody. Lawrence Marsh stated that he

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<v Speaker 1>had driven Ferry and his Chevrolet convertible to meet someone

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<v Speaker 1>down at ten am to sixteen sixty two, but would

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<v Speaker 1>not say anything more about the meeting. Officers observed the

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<v Speaker 1>Chevy convertible LA sixty two license one O seven eight

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<v Speaker 1>Ferry was booked at the East Bank Jail and was

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<v Speaker 1>immediately taken to the First District station by investigating officers

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<v Speaker 1>and booked with RS fourteen Article sixty six relative to extortion.

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<v Speaker 1>He refused to answer questions and on the advice of

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<v Speaker 1>his attorney. John Cater is a male nurse who lives alone.

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<v Speaker 1>He has been married and is divorced. He has a

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<v Speaker 1>teenage son who is in the military service. Mister Cruchet

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<v Speaker 1>stated that mister Cater has been more than a good

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<v Speaker 1>friend for over three years. Cater stated that he has

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<v Speaker 1>no police record, has never been arrested. He was asked

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<v Speaker 1>by officers a Ferry could prove the accusations, and he

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<v Speaker 1>stated that Ferry positively could not. On Sunday, February eighteenth,

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen sixty two, Cater came to the Juvenile Bureau and

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<v Speaker 1>formed investigating officers that he'd received a phone call from

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<v Speaker 1>two boys, one of whom stated he was calling from

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<v Speaker 1>Ferry's residence. The phone call, according to Cater, was made

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<v Speaker 1>about four pm on February sixteenth, sixty two, a short

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<v Speaker 1>while after Fairy Woe arrested. Cater told officers the boys

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<v Speaker 1>to asked him if he had made a statement against

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<v Speaker 1>Ferry and asked them why he made it. The boys

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<v Speaker 1>boys who were involved in the impending cases in New

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<v Speaker 1>Orleans and Jefferson Parish courts, and that Ferry was also

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<v Speaker 1>trying to help him Cater. The telephone conversation ended, and

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<v Speaker 1>Cater identified one of the boys. As it says Alvin Bobach.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's Beau boof a boy whom he had previously

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<v Speaker 1>met at a skating rink, Which is funny because remember

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<v Speaker 1>David Ferry said that he was the only one who

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<v Speaker 1>knew how to skate right, hilarious. After the discussion, Butch

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<v Speaker 1>and Ferry drove me to flood in Burgundy Street. It

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<v Speaker 1>was about twelve noon. I walked over to mister Cruschet's

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<v Speaker 1>house and shortly after the police arrived. The rest is

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<v Speaker 1>a Q and a question. How long have you known

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<v Speaker 1>the Cruche family? About three years? I visited them regularly

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<v Speaker 1>and they visit me. Had you known Ferry before this incident?

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<v Speaker 1>Never saw him before in my life. Had you ever

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<v Speaker 1>known the boy named Butch? No, only by sights. I've

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<v Speaker 1>seen him at a skating rink in the past. So

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<v Speaker 1>a place for kids to be there, right, any place

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<v Speaker 1>it would look normal for a kid to be, It

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<v Speaker 1>would be a good place to traffic them. Is there

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<v Speaker 1>anything more you'd like to add? At about four pm

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<v Speaker 1>February sixteenth, I received a phone call at my house

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<v Speaker 1>from Alvin boboof a boy I know from the skating rink.

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<v Speaker 1>I asked him where I was and he stated that

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<v Speaker 1>where he was. This is all kind of jumbled. I

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<v Speaker 1>asked him where he was. He said he was at

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<v Speaker 1>Dave Ferry's house. He stated that he had someone on

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<v Speaker 1>the line who wanted to talk to me. Some other

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<v Speaker 1>boys whom I don't know and who didn't identify himself

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<v Speaker 1>spoke with me and asked if I had made a

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<v Speaker 1>statement to the police. I told him no. He told

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<v Speaker 1>me that David Ferry was trying to help me and

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<v Speaker 1>other boys told me that police had been to Faerry's

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<v Speaker 1>had ever heard the police threat and to kill Ferry,

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<v Speaker 1>even get even with him, or make remarks about it.

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<v Speaker 1>The conversation ended when I told him that I wasn't interested.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have any idea of how Ferry got your

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<v Speaker 1>name and phone number at work? No? Is this statement

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<v Speaker 1>true and corrected the best of your knowledge? Yes, signed

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<v Speaker 1>John Cater. So interesting statement from Cater m all right.

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<v Speaker 1>Continuing on page three, investigating officers feel that Cater is

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<v Speaker 1>an acquittal in his appending cases in the courts of

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<v Speaker 1>Orleans and Jefferson Parish. Investigating officers would also point out

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<v Speaker 1>that Cater once hung around a skating rink and knew

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<v Speaker 1>many young boys, which included boboof and Marsh whom Cater

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<v Speaker 1>only knew his Butcher. Thus, Cater would be a good

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<v Speaker 1>target for Fairry's threats and intimidation. Officers check the Police

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<v Speaker 1>Bureau of Identification and found that they have no record

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<v Speaker 1>on John Cater. The District Attorney will be consulted. Signed

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<v Speaker 1>Fournier and Joea Investigators. All Right Juvenile Bureau, February sixteen

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<v Speaker 1>sixty two. Statement of John T. Cater, White male, age

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<v Speaker 1>forty one. He's forty one year olds hanging out with

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<v Speaker 1>teenagers creeps, resigning at fifty four to fifty four Dauphine Street,

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<v Speaker 1>relative to an investigation of intimidation and threats. I John Cater,

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<v Speaker 1>without threats or promises, make the following statement and will

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<v Speaker 1>answer all questions asked of me. I was working at

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<v Speaker 1>home on Thursday night, February fifteen sixty two, and I

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<v Speaker 1>man who asked me, do you know who this is?

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<v Speaker 1>I told him I had a good idea, and he said,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd like to meet you tomorrow. I have a proposition.

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<v Speaker 1>I suspected that it was Dave Ferry on the phone

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<v Speaker 1>caused he was causing between Mike Crusche and the other boys.

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<v Speaker 1>I was nervous about him calling at my work and

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know what to do, so I just told

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<v Speaker 1>him that I would meet him. He asked me where

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<v Speaker 1>it was a good place to meet, and I told

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<v Speaker 1>him Walgreens on Canal Street because I was familiar with

413
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<v Speaker 1>the location as I passed this place every day. I

414
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<v Speaker 1>picked this place because it was safe and I didn't

415
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<v Speaker 1>want to be alone with this man. He hung up

416
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<v Speaker 1>shortly after the conversation. I tried to get mister Gruchet

417
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<v Speaker 1>that same night, but changed my mind because I didn't

418
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<v Speaker 1>want to disturb them. I called mister Gruchet this morning

419
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<v Speaker 1>about eight am to tell him what happened. Mister Gruche

420
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<v Speaker 1>told me to go ahead and meet with Ferry and

421
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<v Speaker 1>said that he would notify the police. I met Ferry

422
00:24:32.079 --> 00:24:34.359
<v Speaker 1>this morning at the designated time in place ten am.

423
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<v Speaker 1>He told me he had a car and that Butch

424
00:24:36.359 --> 00:24:38.079
<v Speaker 1>was with him and that he would take we would

425
00:24:38.079 --> 00:24:40.400
<v Speaker 1>take a ride. I got in the car, which was

426
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<v Speaker 1>parked by the curb on Canal directly in front of

427
00:24:44.200 --> 00:24:47.839
<v Speaker 1>the Center Theater. It looked like a Chevrolet convertible to me,

428
00:24:47.880 --> 00:24:50.559
<v Speaker 1>and Butch was driving it. Ferry wanted to drive around

429
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<v Speaker 1>the block because he was expecting some kid to meet

430
00:24:52.519 --> 00:24:55.480
<v Speaker 1>him there. The kid didn't show up, so then we

431
00:24:55.920 --> 00:24:58.519
<v Speaker 1>drove up to Lane Avenue to Carrollton section and we

432
00:24:58.599 --> 00:25:02.359
<v Speaker 1>started talking while driving. We drove to some Royal Castle restaurant,

433
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<v Speaker 1>but I don't remember where it was because I was

434
00:25:04.039 --> 00:25:07.319
<v Speaker 1>nervous and unfamiliar with the neighborhood. Fairy talked about his

435
00:25:07.400 --> 00:25:09.440
<v Speaker 1>case and explained to me that if Mike Cruche would

436
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<v Speaker 1>not testify, no one would get in trouble. He stated

437
00:25:12.559 --> 00:25:14.920
<v Speaker 1>that he had affidavids against me and that Cruche and

438
00:25:14.960 --> 00:25:17.640
<v Speaker 1>the hockey players at the skating rink. He stated that

439
00:25:17.720 --> 00:25:20.440
<v Speaker 1>it would be very serious for us if the Cruche

440
00:25:20.559 --> 00:25:24.079
<v Speaker 1>boy testified against him. He asked me to get Mike

441
00:25:24.119 --> 00:25:26.119
<v Speaker 1>to change his mind not to talk and to testify

442
00:25:26.160 --> 00:25:29.599
<v Speaker 1>against him. He stated that he was doing this only

443
00:25:29.640 --> 00:25:31.599
<v Speaker 1>to help all the boys who were involved, because he

444
00:25:31.680 --> 00:25:35.519
<v Speaker 1>was interested in boys, you think. Fairy stated to me

445
00:25:35.640 --> 00:25:38.640
<v Speaker 1>that he had affidavids from boys who had been to

446
00:25:38.759 --> 00:25:44.640
<v Speaker 1>my house on several occasions on sex parties. He stated

447
00:25:44.680 --> 00:25:46.519
<v Speaker 1>that he was going to get Mike and his brother

448
00:25:46.559 --> 00:25:49.279
<v Speaker 1>Courtland involved in his sex ring and was making implications

449
00:25:49.359 --> 00:25:51.640
<v Speaker 1>to make me believe that he had affidavids against me

450
00:25:51.920 --> 00:25:54.960
<v Speaker 1>for having sex parties at my house. He told me

451
00:25:55.000 --> 00:25:57.359
<v Speaker 1>I was closer to the Cruchet family to anybody, and

452
00:25:57.400 --> 00:25:59.480
<v Speaker 1>he told me that I should have influence over them.

453
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<v Speaker 1>I was wondering at the time how Ferry came to

454
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<v Speaker 1>know that I was good friends with a Cruchet family.

455
00:26:04.599 --> 00:26:07.440
<v Speaker 1>He gave me his phone number, which was a Vernon number,

456
00:26:09.920 --> 00:26:11.759
<v Speaker 1>which I have at home. He told me to call

457
00:26:11.880 --> 00:26:14.559
<v Speaker 1>him and let him know the results of what I

458
00:26:14.599 --> 00:26:18.720
<v Speaker 1>could do for him. Butch heard the entire conversation between

459
00:26:18.720 --> 00:26:20.960
<v Speaker 1>Fairy and me. He even butted in stated that he'd

460
00:26:21.000 --> 00:26:23.279
<v Speaker 1>been to my house too. I can say definitely that

461
00:26:23.319 --> 00:26:25.720
<v Speaker 1>Butch has never been to my house. I don't even

462
00:26:25.720 --> 00:26:27.759
<v Speaker 1>know his real name. We did most of the talking

463
00:26:27.759 --> 00:26:30.319
<v Speaker 1>while riding in the car. We did not do much

464
00:26:30.359 --> 00:26:34.240
<v Speaker 1>talking after we went to get a cup of coffee,

465
00:26:34.599 --> 00:26:41.599
<v Speaker 1>says continued, but then that page cuts off. Next thing

466
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<v Speaker 1>we got New Orleans Police Department, Juvenile Bureau, August twenty third,

467
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<v Speaker 1>nineteen sixty one. Statement of James Landry, white male, aged sixteen,

468
00:26:54.000 --> 00:26:58.920
<v Speaker 1>residing three thousand and six domain relative to Captain Dave Ferry,

469
00:26:59.119 --> 00:27:01.599
<v Speaker 1>white male, age forty five by residing three thirty one Atherton,

470
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<v Speaker 1>contributing to the delinquency of juveniles. The below statement will

471
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<v Speaker 1>be in question and answer form. Question to be asked

472
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<v Speaker 1>by Charles Jeneaux and answered by James Landry. I think

473
00:27:16.519 --> 00:27:20.920
<v Speaker 1>it's Alexandra Landry, Alexander James Landry, do you know? Or

474
00:27:20.920 --> 00:27:23.839
<v Speaker 1>maybe it's James Alexander Landry, but either way it's al Landry.

475
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<v Speaker 1>Do you know Captain Dave Ferry? Yes, sir. How did

476
00:27:28.720 --> 00:27:30.839
<v Speaker 1>you get to meet him? Through my father who worked

477
00:27:30.839 --> 00:27:33.799
<v Speaker 1>at Eastern Airlines where Captain Ferry is a pilot. Will

478
00:27:33.799 --> 00:27:36.680
<v Speaker 1>you remember the Civil Air Patrol the cap'n Ferry was in, Yes, sir,

479
00:27:36.759 --> 00:27:40.599
<v Speaker 1>the Metarie Falcon Squadron. Did you ever attend any parties

480
00:27:40.640 --> 00:27:43.799
<v Speaker 1>at Captain Ferry's house on Atherton Drive, Yes, sir? What

481
00:27:43.920 --> 00:27:46.799
<v Speaker 1>happened at those parties. Well, at one of the parties

482
00:27:46.880 --> 00:27:49.440
<v Speaker 1>we brought our dates and danced and had whiskey and

483
00:27:49.519 --> 00:27:52.200
<v Speaker 1>beer to drink. All the rest of the parties were

484
00:27:52.319 --> 00:27:57.720
<v Speaker 1>stag parties. All the parties you went to at cap'n

485
00:27:57.759 --> 00:28:00.880
<v Speaker 1>Ferry's house, you were allowed to drink whiskey and beer, yes, sir.

486
00:28:01.359 --> 00:28:07.359
<v Speaker 1>And it really wasn't can't read what this word is.

487
00:28:10.720 --> 00:28:12.680
<v Speaker 1>It was just a get together. It really wasn't a party.

488
00:28:12.720 --> 00:28:15.960
<v Speaker 1>It was just get together after the meetings. Okay, there

489
00:28:16.000 --> 00:28:19.000
<v Speaker 1>we go. Have you ever seen any obscene, loud or

490
00:28:19.000 --> 00:28:22.160
<v Speaker 1>dirty pictures at the home of David Ferry, Yes, sir.

491
00:28:22.759 --> 00:28:26.359
<v Speaker 1>I saw some of those small comic books with people fucking.

492
00:28:26.839 --> 00:28:30.480
<v Speaker 1>And he had some photographs that Captain said were from

493
00:28:30.559 --> 00:28:34.480
<v Speaker 1>Mexico that had a man and a woman screwing. Did

494
00:28:34.519 --> 00:28:38.200
<v Speaker 1>you ever see any boy drink at Captain Faerriy's home

495
00:28:38.279 --> 00:28:41.160
<v Speaker 1>after a party there? I was high a couple of times.

496
00:28:41.880 --> 00:28:46.359
<v Speaker 1>Al Landry was high. Huh, maybe James Landry is a

497
00:28:46.359 --> 00:28:50.119
<v Speaker 1>different person from al Andrey. I was high a couple

498
00:28:50.119 --> 00:28:52.880
<v Speaker 1>of times. Al Landry was high. He drank at most

499
00:28:52.920 --> 00:28:56.079
<v Speaker 1>of the parties I went to. What month and day

500
00:28:56.160 --> 00:28:59.240
<v Speaker 1>did those parties take place. Well, we had a party

501
00:28:59.319 --> 00:29:03.240
<v Speaker 1>Christmas Eve of nineteen sixty and we had whiskey and beer.

502
00:29:03.920 --> 00:29:09.000
<v Speaker 1>Who was at this party? Alandry was there, Donnie Edwards

503
00:29:09.119 --> 00:29:11.640
<v Speaker 1>was there for a little while. Late In Martin's was

504
00:29:11.680 --> 00:29:15.400
<v Speaker 1>there and they didn't have too many How did you

505
00:29:15.440 --> 00:29:17.920
<v Speaker 1>get to see these pictures you mentioned before, the lude pictures?

506
00:29:18.759 --> 00:29:20.720
<v Speaker 1>The Captain handed them to me and told me to

507
00:29:20.720 --> 00:29:33.799
<v Speaker 1>look at them. It cuts off there again, that's two

508
00:29:33.880 --> 00:29:36.720
<v Speaker 1>documents in a row that just cut off there. So

509
00:29:38.039 --> 00:29:40.359
<v Speaker 1>here we go. It picks up like two pages later

510
00:29:41.839 --> 00:29:44.359
<v Speaker 1>with a statement in the middle, so we're gonna have

511
00:29:44.400 --> 00:29:48.440
<v Speaker 1>to double back to this. Did you ever spend the

512
00:29:48.519 --> 00:29:51.319
<v Speaker 1>night at Captain Ferry's house? Yes, they're about seven times.

513
00:29:52.200 --> 00:29:55.960
<v Speaker 1>Where did you sleep when you stayed at the Captain's home?

514
00:29:59.519 --> 00:30:01.680
<v Speaker 1>Who did you sleep with when you stayed at the

515
00:30:01.720 --> 00:30:04.839
<v Speaker 1>Captain's home? Captain Fairy? Did you ever have any sex

516
00:30:04.880 --> 00:30:09.079
<v Speaker 1>relations with the captain while you were sleeping with him? Yes, sir,

517
00:30:09.440 --> 00:30:12.000
<v Speaker 1>I was sleeping with the Captain and I woke up

518
00:30:12.039 --> 00:30:14.559
<v Speaker 1>and he was jerking me off. While he was jerking

519
00:30:14.599 --> 00:30:18.720
<v Speaker 1>me off, he jerked himself off. Do you remember what

520
00:30:18.880 --> 00:30:26.559
<v Speaker 1>day this happened? I can't remember the date, but I

521
00:30:26.599 --> 00:30:28.640
<v Speaker 1>can't read this word. The whole thing is pretty clear

522
00:30:28.680 --> 00:30:33.240
<v Speaker 1>except for this one fucking word. Um, but he jerked

523
00:30:33.279 --> 00:30:38.160
<v Speaker 1>me about three times. Do you know of any other

524
00:30:38.200 --> 00:30:41.079
<v Speaker 1>boys that the captain had sex relations with? No, sir,

525
00:30:41.640 --> 00:30:44.000
<v Speaker 1>Is there anything else you haven't told me pertaining to

526
00:30:44.039 --> 00:30:47.279
<v Speaker 1>the activities at Captain Dave Ferri's home. No, sir, that's all.

527
00:30:47.720 --> 00:30:50.000
<v Speaker 1>Is the above statement true? And to the best of

528
00:30:50.000 --> 00:30:52.240
<v Speaker 1>your knowledge? Did you give the statement freely of your

529
00:30:52.279 --> 00:30:55.559
<v Speaker 1>own will, without threats or promise. Yes, they're assigned James Landry,

530
00:30:55.559 --> 00:31:03.000
<v Speaker 1>So that must be Al Landry's brother. Okay, so now

531
00:31:03.039 --> 00:31:05.519
<v Speaker 1>I can double back because this other statement picks up,

532
00:31:06.079 --> 00:31:09.160
<v Speaker 1>so it just kind of splits off here. This is

533
00:31:09.160 --> 00:31:17.079
<v Speaker 1>gonna be a statement of Eric Kruschem. If I find

534
00:31:17.119 --> 00:31:19.480
<v Speaker 1>that we've already covered this, I'm probably gonna skip it.

535
00:31:19.960 --> 00:31:27.920
<v Speaker 1>But it looks new. Juvenile Bureau, August twenty, second, sixty one,

536
00:31:28.000 --> 00:31:31.640
<v Speaker 1>Jefferson Parish Police Statement of Eric Michael Krusche A sixteen.

537
00:31:34.000 --> 00:31:36.680
<v Speaker 1>My name is Eric Crusche, and I, without threats or promises,

538
00:31:36.759 --> 00:31:39.039
<v Speaker 1>make the following statement. Will answer all questions asked of me.

539
00:31:40.200 --> 00:31:45.960
<v Speaker 1>Did we just read this? I don't think so. Okay,

540
00:31:46.079 --> 00:31:48.119
<v Speaker 1>here we go. Do you know Captain David Ferry of

541
00:31:48.119 --> 00:31:51.079
<v Speaker 1>three thirty one Atherton. Yes, he's a pilot with Eastern Airlines.

542
00:31:51.240 --> 00:31:53.440
<v Speaker 1>When did you first meet Captain Faery? It was about

543
00:31:53.480 --> 00:31:55.480
<v Speaker 1>a year and a half to two years ago, after Halloween,

544
00:31:55.480 --> 00:31:57.880
<v Speaker 1>when I joined the Civil Air Patrol. Can you tell

545
00:31:57.960 --> 00:32:00.720
<v Speaker 1>us anything about your knowledge of Captain Fairy. When I

546
00:32:00.839 --> 00:32:03.160
<v Speaker 1>first joined the outfit, I found out that there were

547
00:32:03.440 --> 00:32:05.200
<v Speaker 1>going to be a lot of drinking parties. So I

548
00:32:05.240 --> 00:32:07.880
<v Speaker 1>tried to find out what the parties were like, and

549
00:32:07.960 --> 00:32:10.039
<v Speaker 1>I found out when I went to my first party

550
00:32:10.559 --> 00:32:13.559
<v Speaker 1>there were whiskey and beer drinks. One of the parties

551
00:32:13.720 --> 00:32:17.039
<v Speaker 1>held at one of the female cadets house. Captain Ferry

552
00:32:17.039 --> 00:32:19.200
<v Speaker 1>was there too. After the party, cap'n Ferry left with

553
00:32:19.279 --> 00:32:22.640
<v Speaker 1>three boys. Since then, I've gone to many parties where

554
00:32:22.720 --> 00:32:25.680
<v Speaker 1>there was heavy drinking and Captain Ferry. I've gone to

555
00:32:25.680 --> 00:32:28.319
<v Speaker 1>about ten or fifteen of these parties. I did so

556
00:32:28.400 --> 00:32:31.119
<v Speaker 1>much drinking at this time that I almost became an alcoholic.

557
00:32:31.839 --> 00:32:34.000
<v Speaker 1>Most of the stag drinking parties were held at Captain

558
00:32:34.039 --> 00:32:37.000
<v Speaker 1>Ferry's house when he lived on Airline Park Boulevard, and

559
00:32:37.039 --> 00:32:40.039
<v Speaker 1>some on Atherton Drive. One night Captain Ferry rented the

560
00:32:40.079 --> 00:32:42.319
<v Speaker 1>Walnut Room at the New Orleans Airport for a Mardi

561
00:32:42.319 --> 00:32:45.119
<v Speaker 1>Gras party for boys and girls. They had plenty of

562
00:32:45.119 --> 00:32:47.200
<v Speaker 1>beer at the party and they were about thirty kids

563
00:32:47.200 --> 00:32:51.160
<v Speaker 1>there that night. That was Marti grav nineteen sixty and

564
00:32:51.200 --> 00:32:53.400
<v Speaker 1>about three or four of us who got really drunk.

565
00:32:54.119 --> 00:32:55.920
<v Speaker 1>Two weeks after Marti Graus, I went to his house

566
00:32:55.920 --> 00:32:59.440
<v Speaker 1>on Airline Park Boulevard and we went out riding and

567
00:32:59.559 --> 00:33:02.960
<v Speaker 1>had a few drinks. Captain Fairy bought the drinks and

568
00:33:03.000 --> 00:33:05.799
<v Speaker 1>we were drinking while we were driving. We went to

569
00:33:05.799 --> 00:33:08.279
<v Speaker 1>the New Orleans Airport and he bought me six beers.

570
00:33:08.920 --> 00:33:10.960
<v Speaker 1>We went to Captain Fairy's house at Airline Park at

571
00:33:11.000 --> 00:33:14.359
<v Speaker 1>six am and we went to bed together. Captain Fairy

572
00:33:14.440 --> 00:33:16.519
<v Speaker 1>showed me a book with just writing in it, and

573
00:33:16.559 --> 00:33:19.279
<v Speaker 1>it was a sexy story that he told me that

574
00:33:19.359 --> 00:33:22.599
<v Speaker 1>he was going to jerk off. Captain Fairy asked me

575
00:33:23.599 --> 00:33:26.519
<v Speaker 1>if I was going to jerk off. Captain Ferry climbed

576
00:33:26.559 --> 00:33:28.279
<v Speaker 1>on top of me and put his penis on top

577
00:33:28.319 --> 00:33:31.079
<v Speaker 1>of my legs. He had a discharge on me and

578
00:33:31.119 --> 00:33:34.359
<v Speaker 1>then he went to sleep. A couple of weeks later,

579
00:33:34.599 --> 00:33:38.640
<v Speaker 1>y Yum Right a couple of weeks later, I went

580
00:33:38.640 --> 00:33:40.680
<v Speaker 1>over to his house again and Captain Ferry gave me

581
00:33:40.799 --> 00:33:43.680
<v Speaker 1>the same book and let me read it. He jerked

582
00:33:43.680 --> 00:33:46.160
<v Speaker 1>me off, and he jerked himself off at the same time,

583
00:33:46.640 --> 00:33:49.519
<v Speaker 1>And when I had my discharge, he was looking at it.

584
00:33:49.880 --> 00:33:53.000
<v Speaker 1>About one month later, Captain Ferry, Lighton Martin's and myself

585
00:33:53.400 --> 00:33:55.759
<v Speaker 1>were going home from drill and we had just taken

586
00:33:57.200 --> 00:34:01.720
<v Speaker 1>Carl Costa home. We were getting ready Carl Costa, Okay,

587
00:34:01.759 --> 00:34:05.079
<v Speaker 1>so remember that name, Carl Costa. We were getting ready

588
00:34:05.160 --> 00:34:07.640
<v Speaker 1>to take Layton home, and Ferry asked Layton if he

589
00:34:07.680 --> 00:34:10.480
<v Speaker 1>wanted to spend the night at his house, and Laighton

590
00:34:10.519 --> 00:34:12.679
<v Speaker 1>said all right. While in the car we got the

591
00:34:12.719 --> 00:34:15.760
<v Speaker 1>discussion of jerking off and Lighton and Captain Ferry and

592
00:34:15.760 --> 00:34:20.559
<v Speaker 1>I if we ever jerked off and discharge enough to

593
00:34:20.639 --> 00:34:23.920
<v Speaker 1>come for us to hit you in the eye. I

594
00:34:24.000 --> 00:34:26.360
<v Speaker 1>noticed when I was in Captain Fairy's house that there

595
00:34:26.360 --> 00:34:29.880
<v Speaker 1>were spots all over the wall and all over his dresser,

596
00:34:30.159 --> 00:34:35.000
<v Speaker 1>and it looked like discharge spots. That's so gross. The

597
00:34:35.039 --> 00:34:37.239
<v Speaker 1>three of us drove to Captain Ferry's house and Layton

598
00:34:37.320 --> 00:34:39.159
<v Speaker 1>slept in the living room and me and Captain Ferry

599
00:34:39.199 --> 00:34:42.320
<v Speaker 1>went to Captain Fairy's bedroom. Captain Ferry jerked me off

600
00:34:42.320 --> 00:34:45.079
<v Speaker 1>and he jerked himself off. After that, I went to sleep,

601
00:34:45.119 --> 00:34:47.400
<v Speaker 1>and the next morning when I woke up, Captain Ferry

602
00:34:48.119 --> 00:34:50.440
<v Speaker 1>had his and it cuts off again. Does it pick up?

603
00:34:50.440 --> 00:34:53.519
<v Speaker 1>Does it pick up? Yes, had his penis in my

604
00:34:53.719 --> 00:35:01.159
<v Speaker 1>rectum direct them. It nearly killed him. U. I didn't

605
00:35:01.239 --> 00:35:03.800
<v Speaker 1>let him know that I was awake, and I turned

606
00:35:03.800 --> 00:35:06.960
<v Speaker 1>over and it came out when I let him know.

607
00:35:07.440 --> 00:35:10.400
<v Speaker 1>I woke up. We dressed and went out to New

608
00:35:10.559 --> 00:35:18.159
<v Speaker 1>Orleans Airport and worked on the planes and something up

609
00:35:18.199 --> 00:35:21.280
<v Speaker 1>to the building. Captain Ferry told us a few days

610
00:35:21.360 --> 00:35:23.840
<v Speaker 1>or weeks later that he was going to move to

611
00:35:23.880 --> 00:35:27.320
<v Speaker 1>Atherton Drive and he asked me to help him move.

612
00:35:28.239 --> 00:35:30.400
<v Speaker 1>Al Landry, one of the boys in Civil Air Patrol,

613
00:35:31.679 --> 00:35:35.559
<v Speaker 1>helped us move Captain Ferry. On the day we moved,

614
00:35:35.639 --> 00:35:38.360
<v Speaker 1>and Captain Ferry got some whiskey and we went back

615
00:35:38.360 --> 00:35:41.599
<v Speaker 1>to the apartment at Atherton Drive and Captain Ferry showed

616
00:35:41.679 --> 00:35:45.920
<v Speaker 1>us some sex books. It was one of those you

617
00:35:45.920 --> 00:35:49.159
<v Speaker 1>can buy at the news stand. Captain Ferry told us

618
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<v Speaker 1>that we had to break in the new house and

619
00:35:51.840 --> 00:35:57.760
<v Speaker 1>everybody jerking off. We finished our drinks and something too

620
00:36:00.119 --> 00:36:03.079
<v Speaker 1>drove and we two Al Andrew home and while we

621
00:36:03.079 --> 00:36:06.119
<v Speaker 1>were riding home, capt'n Fairy and Al asked why we

622
00:36:06.159 --> 00:36:08.960
<v Speaker 1>didn't jerk off tonight and break in the house. It

623
00:36:09.000 --> 00:36:12.599
<v Speaker 1>was about twelve thirty am, and cap'n Faery asked said

624
00:36:12.599 --> 00:36:15.159
<v Speaker 1>that it was too late. We took Al home and

625
00:36:15.159 --> 00:36:17.800
<v Speaker 1>then he took me home. I was having a few

626
00:36:17.880 --> 00:36:21.239
<v Speaker 1>arguments with my father and Captain Ferry tried to straighten

627
00:36:21.239 --> 00:36:24.239
<v Speaker 1>out the trouble. After he moved into his house on

628
00:36:24.280 --> 00:36:28.000
<v Speaker 1>Atherton Drive, I spent the night over at his house

629
00:36:28.280 --> 00:36:30.800
<v Speaker 1>and we went to bed together and he jerked me

630
00:36:30.840 --> 00:36:33.360
<v Speaker 1>off and blew me. He put his mouth on my

631
00:36:33.440 --> 00:36:37.880
<v Speaker 1>penis and came up and started kissing my neck, and

632
00:36:38.159 --> 00:36:41.559
<v Speaker 1>he then went back down again. I left off my

633
00:36:41.679 --> 00:36:45.920
<v Speaker 1>discharge in his mouth. This happened about three days or

634
00:36:46.320 --> 00:36:50.199
<v Speaker 1>three days after he moved into the Atherton Drive address.

635
00:36:50.599 --> 00:36:53.719
<v Speaker 1>The following weekend, after he blew me, I remember, then

636
00:36:53.840 --> 00:36:57.039
<v Speaker 1>Al share me ran away from home and Captain Ferry

637
00:36:57.119 --> 00:37:04.760
<v Speaker 1>had me go back and something al Charemy's house to

638
00:37:04.800 --> 00:37:07.920
<v Speaker 1>see if he could come home. And if he did

639
00:37:07.960 --> 00:37:10.880
<v Speaker 1>come home, I was interested to get Al put him

640
00:37:10.920 --> 00:37:12.440
<v Speaker 1>in a cab and see that. He went to the

641
00:37:12.480 --> 00:37:15.440
<v Speaker 1>Captain's house, and from there the captain told me that

642
00:37:15.519 --> 00:37:19.519
<v Speaker 1>he was going to send Cheermy to Corpus Christi, Texas.

643
00:37:19.559 --> 00:37:25.559
<v Speaker 1>Captain Ferry, Captain Fairy something told me that he has

644
00:37:25.599 --> 00:37:30.559
<v Speaker 1>a friend in Houston who was who he was blowing,

645
00:37:31.400 --> 00:37:37.760
<v Speaker 1>and this guy in Houston was blowing him. Couldn't be

646
00:37:37.840 --> 00:37:47.960
<v Speaker 1>Jack Valente, couldn't We told him that this guy in

647
00:37:48.039 --> 00:37:52.559
<v Speaker 1>Houston was married something. About six months ago, we had

648
00:37:52.559 --> 00:37:56.320
<v Speaker 1>a party at Captain Fairy's house and some of the

649
00:37:56.360 --> 00:37:59.400
<v Speaker 1>boys went home, and some of the boys stayed there.

650
00:38:00.000 --> 00:38:03.159
<v Speaker 1>I was so drunk that I passed out. The next day.

651
00:38:03.440 --> 00:38:06.119
<v Speaker 1>When I went home, my parents were pretty mad because

652
00:38:06.159 --> 00:38:08.519
<v Speaker 1>I hadn't told them where I was, and they had

653
00:38:08.519 --> 00:38:10.960
<v Speaker 1>to call Captain Ferry about three am and find out

654
00:38:10.960 --> 00:38:13.480
<v Speaker 1>where I was. About six months ago, I was at

655
00:38:13.480 --> 00:38:16.440
<v Speaker 1>Captain Ferry's house and he showed me some pictures that

656
00:38:16.480 --> 00:38:20.719
<v Speaker 1>showed sexual intercourse between male and females, and he had

657
00:38:20.760 --> 00:38:25.960
<v Speaker 1>some between two men doing sixty nine together. He had

658
00:38:26.000 --> 00:38:30.440
<v Speaker 1>some of those little comic books showing people having sexual intercourse.

659
00:38:30.920 --> 00:38:41.920
<v Speaker 1>As I remember, was Snuffy Smith, the traveling salesman. The

660
00:38:42.000 --> 00:38:45.800
<v Speaker 1>babysitter and others see see I told we were just

661
00:38:45.800 --> 00:38:47.440
<v Speaker 1>talking about this on Days zero. The people have been

662
00:38:47.440 --> 00:38:50.199
<v Speaker 1>freaky forever. Okay, people have been fucking the babysitter forever

663
00:38:50.559 --> 00:38:53.360
<v Speaker 1>in their fucking pornos. This is how it goes. There's

664
00:38:53.360 --> 00:38:58.239
<v Speaker 1>nothing new going on. Also, he also had some movie

665
00:38:58.239 --> 00:39:01.920
<v Speaker 1>film sixteen millimeter projector, but told me that the reason

666
00:39:02.639 --> 00:39:06.320
<v Speaker 1>he couldn't show them to me is because the films

667
00:39:06.480 --> 00:39:09.920
<v Speaker 1>were broken. I looked at the film and held it

668
00:39:10.039 --> 00:39:11.800
<v Speaker 1>up to the light and I could see people having

669
00:39:11.800 --> 00:39:14.840
<v Speaker 1>sexual intercourse, a man going down on a woman and

670
00:39:14.880 --> 00:39:18.519
<v Speaker 1>a woman going down on a man. The place the

671
00:39:18.599 --> 00:39:24.719
<v Speaker 1>film was kept when I saw it was in his

672
00:39:24.800 --> 00:39:28.719
<v Speaker 1>laboratory on Atherton Drive. I think laboratory is located in

673
00:39:28.760 --> 00:39:31.440
<v Speaker 1>his garage, and he also has a study room from

674
00:39:31.519 --> 00:39:34.000
<v Speaker 1>the garage and you have to pull a ladder down

675
00:39:34.079 --> 00:39:36.920
<v Speaker 1>from the ceiling. I also saw this film when he

676
00:39:37.000 --> 00:39:40.039
<v Speaker 1>was living on Airline Park Boulevard. We had a party

677
00:39:40.039 --> 00:39:42.519
<v Speaker 1>at Captain Ferriy's home one night and we were playing

678
00:39:43.039 --> 00:39:46.360
<v Speaker 1>football in his house. We were up in the bedroom

679
00:39:46.559 --> 00:39:51.719
<v Speaker 1>and he said lighton. Martin's were in bed and both

680
00:39:54.280 --> 00:39:58.480
<v Speaker 1>Mark March I can't see what that says, it looks

681
00:39:58.519 --> 00:40:02.440
<v Speaker 1>like March, but it doesn't make any sense. And I were, oh, Marsh, Marsh,

682
00:40:02.440 --> 00:40:06.880
<v Speaker 1>there we go. Marsha and I were crashing late in

683
00:40:06.960 --> 00:40:10.719
<v Speaker 1>the bed and it broke and Captain Ferry punched me

684
00:40:10.840 --> 00:40:12.800
<v Speaker 1>in the side of the face. And some of the

685
00:40:12.840 --> 00:40:19.039
<v Speaker 1>boys told me later that I was knocked out. And

686
00:40:19.320 --> 00:40:21.360
<v Speaker 1>this is parts Q and A. How many boys do

687
00:40:21.400 --> 00:40:25.000
<v Speaker 1>you think Captain Ferry has corrupted since you have known him?

688
00:40:26.280 --> 00:40:31.679
<v Speaker 1>At least ten, there were no twenty, at least twenty.

689
00:40:32.440 --> 00:40:35.800
<v Speaker 1>There were fifty kids in the squadron, including girls. Many

690
00:40:35.840 --> 00:40:43.280
<v Speaker 1>of the kids had not drank much before joining the squadron.

691
00:40:46.159 --> 00:40:49.159
<v Speaker 1>Do you think Captain Fairy's squadron was on the level?

692
00:40:49.280 --> 00:40:51.760
<v Speaker 1>Do you think Captain Ferry was giving you the proper

693
00:40:51.800 --> 00:40:56.000
<v Speaker 1>training in civil air patrol work? The whole squadron was

694
00:40:56.039 --> 00:40:58.159
<v Speaker 1>not handled right. He didn't teach us what he was

695
00:40:58.199 --> 00:41:00.599
<v Speaker 1>supposed to. One time, I knew that I had flung

696
00:41:00.719 --> 00:41:03.760
<v Speaker 1>to test, but I passed it. I know that there

697
00:41:03.800 --> 00:41:07.599
<v Speaker 1>was something going wrong. And is his statement Truman korrect? He

698
00:41:07.639 --> 00:41:13.719
<v Speaker 1>says yes, and he signs it very interesting stuff. Huh.

699
00:41:13.800 --> 00:41:16.480
<v Speaker 1>All right, We've got a couple more minutes, so let's

700
00:41:16.480 --> 00:41:19.719
<v Speaker 1>continue on for now. New Orleans Chapter of the Military

701
00:41:19.840 --> 00:41:23.760
<v Speaker 1>Order of World Wars held its regular meeting at Lafont's Boulevard,

702
00:41:23.840 --> 00:41:27.559
<v Speaker 1>Room fifty two thirty six Canal Boulevard, July twenty fourth,

703
00:41:27.639 --> 00:41:30.239
<v Speaker 1>sixty one. The meeting was called to order at nineteen

704
00:41:30.280 --> 00:41:31.960
<v Speaker 1>hundred hours. This is probably one of those things that

705
00:41:32.000 --> 00:41:37.239
<v Speaker 1>he spoke at that he got in trouble for Presiding

706
00:41:37.280 --> 00:41:41.880
<v Speaker 1>Rear Admiral T. J. Ryan Jr. Pledge, Captain Gail Schneidoh

707
00:41:41.960 --> 00:41:51.840
<v Speaker 1>Junior Preamble, Captain Francis Grevenburg Invocation, Colonel Lansing L. Mitchell.

708
00:41:52.000 --> 00:41:54.639
<v Speaker 1>The Commander called for the introduction of guests and roll call,

709
00:41:54.719 --> 00:41:58.559
<v Speaker 1>and welcomed one new member present and attending the meeting

710
00:41:58.559 --> 00:42:01.519
<v Speaker 1>for the first time, and explained to him the purpose

711
00:42:01.559 --> 00:42:03.840
<v Speaker 1>and object of the Order. There were seventy members and

712
00:42:03.880 --> 00:42:07.360
<v Speaker 1>five guests present. In the absence of the Adjudant, Colonel

713
00:42:07.400 --> 00:42:12.480
<v Speaker 1>Frank Spies. Spiss Or Spies read the minutes of the

714
00:42:12.480 --> 00:42:16.920
<v Speaker 1>previous meeting and the membership approval. The minutes as read.

715
00:42:17.119 --> 00:42:20.440
<v Speaker 1>The Treasurer's report for the month of June was read,

716
00:42:20.480 --> 00:42:22.840
<v Speaker 1>showing a cash balance of one oh five seven oh

717
00:42:22.960 --> 00:42:27.119
<v Speaker 1>six as of thirtieth of June sixty one. There being

718
00:42:27.159 --> 00:42:30.119
<v Speaker 1>no objection, the report of the Treasurer was received and filed.

719
00:42:30.840 --> 00:42:33.880
<v Speaker 1>Commander Ryan reported for the chairman of the American Committee

720
00:42:34.199 --> 00:42:36.039
<v Speaker 1>at the Times Picking Units accepted the fly of the

721
00:42:36.119 --> 00:42:39.360
<v Speaker 1>United States flag campaign obtained three thousand flags and will

722
00:42:39.719 --> 00:42:41.800
<v Speaker 1>run a large add in the paper on August sixth,

723
00:42:41.880 --> 00:42:46.039
<v Speaker 1>sixty one. The target day to have everyone possible fly

724
00:42:46.159 --> 00:42:49.840
<v Speaker 1>the flag is Veteran's Day, November eleventh. The rest of

725
00:42:49.880 --> 00:42:52.239
<v Speaker 1>this is just normal, like meeting minute stuff. Doesn't seem

726
00:42:52.280 --> 00:42:57.639
<v Speaker 1>to have any relevance to what we're talking about. Okay,

727
00:42:57.719 --> 00:43:00.559
<v Speaker 1>let me continue on. I'll skip the next paragraph. The

728
00:43:00.599 --> 00:43:04.039
<v Speaker 1>speaker of the evening, Captain David W. Ferry, Senior pilot

729
00:43:04.280 --> 00:43:07.480
<v Speaker 1>Eastern Airlines, spoke on Cuba April nineteen sixty one, Present

730
00:43:07.480 --> 00:43:10.199
<v Speaker 1>and future. At the opening of his presentation, he indicated

731
00:43:10.199 --> 00:43:13.199
<v Speaker 1>his talk would be controversial, when partly through the presentation,

732
00:43:13.639 --> 00:43:16.960
<v Speaker 1>the Commander Rose apologized for interrupting the speaker and told

733
00:43:17.039 --> 00:43:18.800
<v Speaker 1>him the tenor of his remarks up to that point

734
00:43:18.800 --> 00:43:22.079
<v Speaker 1>were contrary to the preamble and objectives for which the

735
00:43:22.079 --> 00:43:25.360
<v Speaker 1>Military Order of the World Wars stands, and that if

736
00:43:25.360 --> 00:43:28.880
<v Speaker 1>he wished to speak, he could not speak as our

737
00:43:29.960 --> 00:43:32.599
<v Speaker 1>guest speaker, but as a private citizen and to the

738
00:43:32.639 --> 00:43:36.000
<v Speaker 1>members present as private citizens. After a German of the meeting,

739
00:43:36.320 --> 00:43:39.639
<v Speaker 1>Captain Fery determined he would stop his presentation, Commander Ryan

740
00:43:39.639 --> 00:43:42.559
<v Speaker 1>then formally adjourned the meeting in accordance with the prescribed

741
00:43:42.679 --> 00:43:51.599
<v Speaker 1>ritual at twenty one hundred hours. So pretty interesting stuff.

742
00:43:52.039 --> 00:43:55.320
<v Speaker 1>See that meeting in particular is fairly well known. It

743
00:43:55.360 --> 00:43:58.039
<v Speaker 1>was talked about in the JFK movie and it comes

744
00:43:58.119 --> 00:44:03.320
<v Speaker 1>up a couple times in the investigation of his background.

745
00:44:03.400 --> 00:44:05.679
<v Speaker 1>And the reason it's important is because it's a character

746
00:44:05.719 --> 00:44:12.239
<v Speaker 1>building thing, right. Character building is as an important aspect

747
00:44:12.480 --> 00:44:17.559
<v Speaker 1>of investigations as the details of whatever crime you're investigating,

748
00:44:18.320 --> 00:44:25.559
<v Speaker 1>if not more important. All right, what is this report

749
00:44:25.599 --> 00:44:29.039
<v Speaker 1>of investigation? Date February fifteen sixty three, subject David William

750
00:44:29.039 --> 00:44:33.440
<v Speaker 1>Ferry synopsis The most Reverend Marsha Christopher I was from

751
00:44:33.480 --> 00:44:40.320
<v Speaker 1>probably one of the churches. M Stanley, Archbishop Metropolitan Apostoly

752
00:44:40.519 --> 00:44:43.920
<v Speaker 1>Orthodox Old Catholic Church of North America, Louisville, Kentucky, advised

753
00:44:43.920 --> 00:44:46.119
<v Speaker 1>that on the occasion of being asked to consecrate David

754
00:44:46.119 --> 00:44:48.760
<v Speaker 1>William Ferry as a bishop in the churches above. He

755
00:44:48.920 --> 00:44:51.079
<v Speaker 1>Stanley learned from a friend the fairy had been accused

756
00:44:51.079 --> 00:44:54.719
<v Speaker 1>of committing overt acts of unnatural sexual behavior, and on

757
00:44:54.800 --> 00:44:59.119
<v Speaker 1>the basis of this information, Stanley refused to perform consecration ceremony,

758
00:44:59.280 --> 00:45:01.719
<v Speaker 1>and on the basis of the same information, later took

759
00:45:01.760 --> 00:45:06.920
<v Speaker 1>the initiative to excommunicate Ferry from the church. Details of

760
00:45:06.960 --> 00:45:11.440
<v Speaker 1>the investigation. This investigation was prompted by receipt of a

761
00:45:11.519 --> 00:45:15.840
<v Speaker 1>letter dated February seventh, sixty three from mister Charles Carson,

762
00:45:15.920 --> 00:45:19.400
<v Speaker 1>Manager New Orleans Office, Southern Research Company, Inc. Connected to

763
00:45:19.400 --> 00:45:23.039
<v Speaker 1>Eastern Airlines eight to eight Maritime Building, New Orleans twelve, Louisiana,

764
00:45:23.119 --> 00:45:28.360
<v Speaker 1>requesting information concerning action taken by Chancellor's Office. Holy Catholic

765
00:45:28.400 --> 00:45:33.840
<v Speaker 1>Apostolic Church, Sacred Congregation of the Consistory Patriarchy of Antioch

766
00:45:34.800 --> 00:45:37.320
<v Speaker 1>Church of North America six h three blah blah blah,

767
00:45:37.360 --> 00:45:40.440
<v Speaker 1>blah blah and all the blah blah blahs. On February fifteenth,

768
00:45:40.519 --> 00:45:44.840
<v Speaker 1>nineteen sixty three, I interviewed the Most Reverend Maria Christopher C. J. M. Stanley,

769
00:45:44.840 --> 00:45:49.599
<v Speaker 1>who further identified himself as Archbishop Metropolitan of Apostolic Orthodox

770
00:45:49.639 --> 00:45:53.719
<v Speaker 1>Old Catholic Church of North America with headquarters on Broadway

771
00:45:53.760 --> 00:45:58.239
<v Speaker 1>in Louisville, Kentucky. Blah blah blah skip that. Reverend Stanley

772
00:45:58.280 --> 00:46:01.800
<v Speaker 1>told me that this religious organization, as stated above, was

773
00:46:01.840 --> 00:46:06.039
<v Speaker 1>an offshoot of the Roman Catholic Church and was completely

774
00:46:06.039 --> 00:46:08.519
<v Speaker 1>independent and in no way affiliated officially with the Roman

775
00:46:08.559 --> 00:46:16.960
<v Speaker 1>Catholic Church. It's a fake church, totally fake church. He

776
00:46:17.039 --> 00:46:21.840
<v Speaker 1>further said his particular independent order had its origin in Germany.

777
00:46:22.199 --> 00:46:25.719
<v Speaker 1>He also referred to an act of affiliate in Canada

778
00:46:26.800 --> 00:46:29.480
<v Speaker 1>based out of some lawyer's office. Right The dwelling at

779
00:46:29.480 --> 00:46:31.559
<v Speaker 1>four twenty to six West Broadway, Louisville serves as its

780
00:46:31.599 --> 00:46:33.880
<v Speaker 1>headquarters for the order and is also used as his

781
00:46:34.039 --> 00:46:37.199
<v Speaker 1>residence and as a small section designated as a chapel

782
00:46:37.199 --> 00:46:42.800
<v Speaker 1>where he holds services. Yeah bullshit. Reverend Stanley was told

783
00:46:42.800 --> 00:46:45.679
<v Speaker 1>the purpose of my visit in that it concerned the

784
00:46:45.679 --> 00:46:48.519
<v Speaker 1>personality of David William Ferry, and in particular the origin

785
00:46:48.559 --> 00:46:51.559
<v Speaker 1>of the letter emanating from sources considered to be that

786
00:46:51.639 --> 00:46:53.400
<v Speaker 1>of his office as a high official of the Church

787
00:46:53.800 --> 00:46:57.480
<v Speaker 1>of which Ferry was also affiliated, from which he was excommunicated.

788
00:46:58.400 --> 00:47:02.440
<v Speaker 1>References were made to a letter dated January ninth, sixty

789
00:47:02.440 --> 00:47:05.719
<v Speaker 1>two from the Chancellor's Office, Province of North America, six

790
00:47:05.760 --> 00:47:10.480
<v Speaker 1>oh three Cecil Avenue, Louisiana, eleven Kentucky, which advised that

791
00:47:10.559 --> 00:47:13.239
<v Speaker 1>Fairy was degraded and cast out of the clergy and

792
00:47:13.440 --> 00:47:19.400
<v Speaker 1>Church in America. Reverend Stanley informed me that he wrote

793
00:47:19.440 --> 00:47:21.880
<v Speaker 1>the letter referred to above as is. It was sent

794
00:47:21.920 --> 00:47:24.119
<v Speaker 1>to the office of Eastern Airlines in New Orleans for

795
00:47:24.159 --> 00:47:27.400
<v Speaker 1>the purpose of requesting the return of certain church property

796
00:47:27.679 --> 00:47:30.000
<v Speaker 1>that was issued to Ferry as an official of the

797
00:47:30.079 --> 00:47:33.800
<v Speaker 1>church and that was used in conducting services and business

798
00:47:33.800 --> 00:47:37.079
<v Speaker 1>of the church. Reverend said that he mentioned the reason

799
00:47:37.119 --> 00:47:38.800
<v Speaker 1>for requesting the return of the property is that it

800
00:47:38.840 --> 00:47:41.800
<v Speaker 1>was necessary due to the excommunication of Fairy from the

801
00:47:41.880 --> 00:47:45.480
<v Speaker 1>church for reasons of alleged acts of unnatural sexual relations

802
00:47:45.719 --> 00:47:52.360
<v Speaker 1>imposed upon children. Reverend Stanley said that he learned of

803
00:47:52.440 --> 00:47:57.559
<v Speaker 1>Ferry through the right most Reverend Monsieur Jean s. Martin,

804
00:47:58.480 --> 00:48:01.599
<v Speaker 1>Bishop to the Apostolic Orthodox Old Catholic Church of North America,

805
00:48:02.039 --> 00:48:05.800
<v Speaker 1>whose addresses thirteen eleven North Prior Street, New Orleans, Louisiana.

806
00:48:09.639 --> 00:48:14.079
<v Speaker 1>Prior Street didn't that come up earlier? Prior Street didn't

807
00:48:14.119 --> 00:48:15.840
<v Speaker 1>come up earlier. Maybe attached to one of them license

808
00:48:15.840 --> 00:48:19.679
<v Speaker 1>plates Reverend Stanley said that Reverend Martin was ordained as

809
00:48:19.719 --> 00:48:22.360
<v Speaker 1>a priest by Stanley in June ninth of nineteen sixty

810
00:48:22.440 --> 00:48:27.480
<v Speaker 1>and was later ordained as a bishop by Stanley. Anybody

811
00:48:27.519 --> 00:48:30.519
<v Speaker 1>can be a bishop, huh. Reverend Martin and Ferry were friends,

812
00:48:30.559 --> 00:48:33.639
<v Speaker 1>and Martin was instrumental in affecting Fairy's official role in

813
00:48:33.679 --> 00:48:41.159
<v Speaker 1>the church. According to the Reverend Stanley, Martin performed the

814
00:48:41.199 --> 00:48:45.079
<v Speaker 1>necessary ceremonies in making Fairry a subdeacon, deacon and priest

815
00:48:45.119 --> 00:48:48.000
<v Speaker 1>of the church. It was Martin who requested Reverend Stanley

816
00:48:48.000 --> 00:48:51.800
<v Speaker 1>to consecrate Fairry as a bishop. Upon being requested to

817
00:48:51.840 --> 00:48:54.880
<v Speaker 1>perform the ceremony of consecrating Faerry as a bishop, Reverend

818
00:48:54.960 --> 00:48:59.599
<v Speaker 1>Stanley made some inquiries concerning the character and reputation of Fairry,

819
00:48:59.800 --> 00:49:03.280
<v Speaker 1>and learned from a mister George Wallace, whom Stanley had

820
00:49:03.320 --> 00:49:06.320
<v Speaker 1>known through the veterans of foreign Wars, that Ferry had

821
00:49:06.320 --> 00:49:09.360
<v Speaker 1>been accused of unnatural sexual behavior and had been fired

822
00:49:09.360 --> 00:49:13.079
<v Speaker 1>by Eastern airlines. This aroused the suspicion of Stanley, and

823
00:49:13.079 --> 00:49:16.159
<v Speaker 1>he called the superintendent name not recalled, but thought to

824
00:49:16.199 --> 00:49:19.800
<v Speaker 1>be of German descent. Stanley tried while I was talking

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<v Speaker 1>to him to obtain the name of the person from

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<v Speaker 1>Louisville office of Eastern Airlines, but to no avail of

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<v Speaker 1>the Eastern Airline offices in Louisville, and confirmed the report

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<v Speaker 1>that Ferry had been discharged as an employee. Wallace's address

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<v Speaker 1>was not available from Stanley. Ferry, accompanied by Martin, arrived

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<v Speaker 1>in Louisville No. Number thirtieth sixty one for the purpose

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<v Speaker 1>of being consecrated as a bishop of the church. Stanley

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<v Speaker 1>indicated his unwillingness to comply and voice disapproval of the

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<v Speaker 1>personal behavior of Fairy as reported to him. Stanley told

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<v Speaker 1>Ferry they intended to excommunicate him from the church for

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<v Speaker 1>reasons of becoming of being unbecoming the church officials. This

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<v Speaker 1>aroused anger on the part of both Ferry and Martin.

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<v Speaker 1>Stanley said that when Ferry arrived in Louisville that he

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<v Speaker 1>appeared to be groomed rather particularly especially since he was

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<v Speaker 1>wearing a wig that was something on with Scotch and

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<v Speaker 1>it was fastened on with Scotch brand tape. Stanley also

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<v Speaker 1>said that Martin had been keen to use devious methods,

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<v Speaker 1>and when queried by me as to this, Stanley said

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<v Speaker 1>that he Martin at times had carried a gun. Martin

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<v Speaker 1>is reported to have been an investigator for mister Ooh,

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<v Speaker 1>Jack Jermillion. Is that the right name? Jack Germillion is

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<v Speaker 1>what it looks like, j R. M I L. L

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<v Speaker 1>I A. An Attorney of General of Louisiana. That name

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<v Speaker 1>you're probably looked into, all right, and that it says continue,

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<v Speaker 1>but then it cuts off. Let me see if it

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<v Speaker 1>picks up again here. No, it doesn't, so we will

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<v Speaker 1>call it here for today. This is a good place

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<v Speaker 1>to leave off, and we will pick back up, continuing

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<v Speaker 1>on with his Eastern Islands investigation. It's a David Ferry.

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<v Speaker 1>There's one document in here. I'm hoping we'll get to

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<v Speaker 1>I'm hoping it's still in here. We got about ano

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred and seventy five pages to go. But there's

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<v Speaker 1>one document in here that I read years ago and

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<v Speaker 1>I've been looking for ever since. And when we get

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<v Speaker 1>to it, I will definitely know it and I will

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<v Speaker 1>let you know what it is. Then. Thanks guys for

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<v Speaker 1>tuning in. As always, pick up my books if you

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<v Speaker 1>haven't yet. That's how I pay the rent. And so

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<v Speaker 1>that's about it. I will see you guys next time.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you,
