Speaker 1: Good morning, everybody. Corey's blood history. So we're just gonna
Speaker 1: hop back into it today. We're going to pick up
Speaker 1: in this David Ferry file the report of the investigator
Speaker 1: who conducted surveillance on David Ferry's apartment, dated twelve, nineteen
Speaker 1: sixty two. A surveillance was maintained at Faerriy's residence from
Speaker 1: five thirty pm to eleven thirty pm on Friday, November sixteenth,
Speaker 1: nineteen sixty two by Jack Oliphant. Ferry came home about
Speaker 1: seven to fifteen pm by himself and went into his house.
Speaker 1: At eight fifteen pm, Ferry and two men who appeared
Speaker 1: to be about his own age, walked away from Ferry's
Speaker 1: home and got into an automobile with nineteen sixty two
Speaker 1: Louisiana license one nine zero seven point eight. Olifant had
Speaker 1: been instructed to record activity at the house and not
Speaker 1: to follow cars away from the house, since it was
Speaker 1: believed more important to determine who came to see him.
Speaker 1: This car came back at eleven PM and Ferry got
Speaker 1: out and went into his house. There was no further activity.
Speaker 1: Nineteen sixty two license one nine zero seven one eight
Speaker 1: is issued to Dante Maraccini, thirteen oh nine Dauphin Street
Speaker 1: for a nineteen fifty one Pontiac. The following investigation was
Speaker 1: conducted by Edward M. Davis on November seventeenth, nineteen sixty two.
Speaker 1: The following observations were made at three three three zero
Speaker 1: Louisiana Avenue Parkway in New Orleans, Louisiana. The observation commenced
Speaker 1: at approximately six thirty pm. At this time, the subject's automobile,
Speaker 1: a nineteen sixty four bearing nineteen sixty two Louisiana license
Speaker 1: three zero zero six zero one, was absent from in
Speaker 1: front of the above address. At seven thirty pm, subject
Speaker 1: arrived in the above automobile alone. He parked in front
Speaker 1: of thirty three thirty Louisiana Avenue Parkway and entered the house.
Speaker 1: At eight twenty five PM, a nineteen fifty four Ford
Speaker 1: Tutor sedan bearing nineteen sixty two Louisiana licensed three one
Speaker 1: one six four to one with three boys in the car,
Speaker 1: arrived in front of the subject's home. They parked the
Speaker 1: car and all entered the home at three three three
Speaker 1: zero Louisiana Avenue Parkway. Shortly thereafter, two of the boys
Speaker 1: left the subjects home and walked in the direction of
Speaker 1: South Broadway. The driver of this car is approximately eighteen
Speaker 1: years of age, six feet tall, slender build, brown hair,
Speaker 1: was wearing an orange colored short sleeved shirt and dark
Speaker 1: colored slacks. The second boy was approximately sixteen years of
Speaker 1: age five feet eight inches tall, medium billed, brown hair
Speaker 1: with high wavy front. He was wearing a plaid shirt
Speaker 1: and dark slacks. The third boy was approximately fifteen years
Speaker 1: of age, slender, five feet six inches tall, had fair complexion,
Speaker 1: light brown hair, was wearing light tan slacks and a
Speaker 1: light blue shirt. The latter two boys were the ones
Speaker 1: that left and walked towards South broad They were turned
Speaker 1: turned at nine to twenty pm and entered the Ford
Speaker 1: with Louisiana Licensed three one one sixty four to one.
Speaker 1: At approximately nine thirty five pm, the driver of the
Speaker 1: car left subjects home and returned to the above car
Speaker 1: with the two boys therein and they departed driving to
Speaker 1: South broad They parked at a bus stop near Broadmoor
Speaker 1: drug Store on the corner of South broad and Washington Streets.
Speaker 1: The second boy left the car and entered the drug store.
Speaker 1: After a few minutes, he returned to the car and
Speaker 1: they left, driving north on Broad Street. The observation continued
Speaker 1: at thirty three thirty Louisiana Avenue Parkway, New Orleans until
Speaker 1: eleven pm. Subject had no other visitors during the above period.
Speaker 1: The following observations were made at thirty three thirty Louisiana
Speaker 1: Avenue Parkway, November eighteen sixty two, commencing at six fifteen pm.
Speaker 1: No activity was noted at this time. Subjects nineteen sixty
Speaker 1: Ford was parked in front of his home. At eight
Speaker 1: fifteen pm, Subject departed from his home leading his dog.
Speaker 1: They walked in the direction of South Claiborne for a
Speaker 1: short distance, then returned and walked towards South Broad. He
Speaker 1: returned to his home at eight thirty pm and entered
Speaker 1: the house with the dog. I wonder what David Ferry's
Speaker 1: dog's name was. At nine oh five pm, Subject left
Speaker 1: his house, entered his car, and drove to South Claiborne,
Speaker 1: turned left on Claiborne and drove north. He returned at
Speaker 1: approximately nine thirty. No activity was noted at thirty three
Speaker 1: thirty Louisiana Avenue Parkway, and the observation was discontinued at
Speaker 1: ten fifteen PM. A spot check was made in the
Speaker 1: vicinity of Columbus in North broad Street and nineteen fifty
Speaker 1: four Ford bearing Louisiana license three one one sixty four
Speaker 1: to one was observed park near the corner of Columbus
Speaker 1: and North Dorjianois. No one was observed in or near
Speaker 1: the car. Spot check was made at one three one
Speaker 1: one North Prior Prieu R and nothing pertin was observed.
Speaker 1: On November nineteenth, nineteen sixty two, confidential source the Motor
Speaker 1: Vehicle Division advised that nineteen sixty two Louisiana Registration one
Speaker 1: nine seven one seventy three is issued to James R.
Speaker 1: Lleuallen spelled L E W A L L E N
Speaker 1: thirteen oh nine Dauphine Street, Apartment nine, New Orleans for
Speaker 1: nineteen fifty four red Pontiac convertible coup motor number P
Speaker 1: eight z A five five nine one six Louisiana title
Speaker 1: number M seven seven six five one six with a
Speaker 1: lean in favor of GMAC in Cleveland, Ohio. The car
Speaker 1: was purchased new on August thirtieth, nineteen fifty four, from
Speaker 1: Tony Dittz Pontiac Company, Cleveland, Ohio, for two thousand, forty
Speaker 1: five dollars. Ohio title number is one eight four two
Speaker 1: one nine five six. Llew Isllan's occupation is shown as pilot.
Speaker 1: That's interesting because I have it that he was working
Speaker 1: at a car rental place at the time. The following
Speaker 1: surveillance of the subject's residents was initiated. On November twenty third,
Speaker 1: sixty two by Jack Oliphant and Charles Branton. At seven
Speaker 1: thirty pm, a car drove up and a young boy
Speaker 1: got out and went into Ferry's apartment Louisiana licensed three
Speaker 1: one one sixty four to one. At seven forty pm,
Speaker 1: another car Louisiana license one nine seven one seven three
Speaker 1: with a young boy driving arrived and the boy got
Speaker 1: out and went into the house. These two cars and
Speaker 1: boys have been to Ferry's apartment before. On November eleventh,
Speaker 1: nineteen sixty two, at eight pm, a car stopped half
Speaker 1: a block from Ferry's apartment, and the driver, about five
Speaker 1: foot five inches two hundred and fifty pounds forty five
Speaker 1: to fifty years of age, wore glasses, got out and
Speaker 1: came to Ferry's apartment. He went inside, stayed five minutes,
Speaker 1: came back out, got in his car and drove off
Speaker 1: his license number as Louisiana three two seven nine three
Speaker 1: eight hmm. Who could that be? Five foot five, two
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty pounds. At eight thirty pm, three persons
Speaker 1: came out and talked for ten minutes. Then the young
Speaker 1: boy in the car got in and left. Ferry and
Speaker 1: the other mail went back into the apartment. At ten
Speaker 1: ten pm, Ferry and the boy came out and another
Speaker 1: boy was with them. This is the first time the
Speaker 1: third boy was observed. The two boys got into car
Speaker 1: Llewellen's car and left. Ferry took his dog for a walk.
Speaker 1: At ten thirty pm, the same two boys came back
Speaker 1: with a six pack of beer and went inside the
Speaker 1: subject's house. No activity was noted until one thirty am
Speaker 1: November twenty fourth, when the two boys and Ferry came
Speaker 1: out of the house. One of the boys, the number
Speaker 1: three boy, had some clothing with him. These two boys
Speaker 1: got into the car and drove off. Ferry went back
Speaker 1: in turned off the light. The two boys were followed
Speaker 1: to Nashville and Patton Street, where the one boy got
Speaker 1: out and went into a two story house on the
Speaker 1: corner of the six hundred block right side, going toward
Speaker 1: the river. The boy went in the front door on Nashville.
Speaker 1: The other boy drove off and headed toward town. The
Speaker 1: surveillance was discontinued at two am. On December third, nineteen
Speaker 1: sixty two, a pretext interview was made by Ronald Hubner
Speaker 1: at six oh four Nashville Avenue to attempt to determine
Speaker 1: the identity of the young man who was seen leaving
Speaker 1: Ferry's apartment and going to that address on November twenty third,
Speaker 1: nineteen sixty two. An elderly woman at six oh four
Speaker 1: Nashville advised that the house was owned by doctor Cormack.
Speaker 1: He has no children and there are no young people
Speaker 1: in the neighborhood except for the son of a woman
Speaker 1: who lives in six oh eight next door to mister Cormack.
Speaker 1: The name of these people given was Martin's, so it
Speaker 1: was Leighton Martin's, and the woman advised that the sun
Speaker 1: is about nineteen years old and attends school in Lafayette, Louisiana,
Speaker 1: comes home only on weekends and holidays. The city directory
Speaker 1: was searched for miss for missus Martin's, but of the
Speaker 1: three listed, none are shown as residing at six o'
Speaker 1: eight Nashville. December fourth, nineteen sixty two, a call was
Speaker 1: made to Telephone Information Service for a phone in the
Speaker 1: name of Martin's at six oh eight Nashville Avenue. The
Speaker 1: operator asked if this could be six oh six instead
Speaker 1: of six oh eight, and when told that it could
Speaker 1: be that number, she said that she had Mary Ellen
Speaker 1: Martin's there, but then said that it was a non
Speaker 1: listed number and she could not give out the information.
Speaker 1: Following the investigation conducted by Edward Davis on November twenty fourth,
Speaker 1: sixty two, the following observation was made at thirty three
Speaker 1: thirty Louisiana Avenue Parkway, New Orleans. The subject's car in
Speaker 1: nineteen sixty four was observed parked in front of the
Speaker 1: address at five thirty pm. At seven thirty pm, the
Speaker 1: subject departed his home and left in his car. He
Speaker 1: drove to the Broadmoor drug Store corner of North Broad
Speaker 1: and Washington Streets, left the car and entered the drug store.
Speaker 1: He was observed making a telephone call from the telephone
Speaker 1: just inside above the store. At seven forty pm, subject
Speaker 1: returned to his home and entered the house. The observation
Speaker 1: was discontinued at approximately ten pm. Subject had no visitors
Speaker 1: and no activity was noted other than the stated above.
Speaker 1: On November twenty fifth, nineteen sixty two, the following observation
Speaker 1: was made at thirty three thirty Louisiana Avenue Parkway. Seems
Speaker 1: like we're backing up a little. The observation commenced at
Speaker 1: five pm. This time, the subjects autombile in nineteen sixty
Speaker 1: four was not parked in front of his residence at
Speaker 1: the above address. At approximately six pm, subject arrived at
Speaker 1: his home and left the car and entered his house.
Speaker 1: At six fifty five pm, Subject departed from his house
Speaker 1: and left in his automobile. He drove towards South Clayborne,
Speaker 1: turned right onto Clayborne. The observation was continued at thirty
Speaker 1: three thirty Louisiana Avenue Parkway, and at ten fifty five
Speaker 1: PM Subject returned home and entered the house. Eleven fifteen PM,
Speaker 1: the observation was discontinued. During the above periods, knowne was
Speaker 1: observed entering or leaving the subject's home. The Motor Vehicle Division,
Speaker 1: Louisiana Department of Revenue, three twenty five Loyola Avenue advised
Speaker 1: George L. Risley on November twenty sixth, nineteen sixty two,
Speaker 1: that the nineteen sixty two Louisiana registration three two seven
Speaker 1: nine thirty eight is listed to Henry J. Winkler, eight
Speaker 1: hundred Oaks Long Drive, Metairie, Louisiana, the licenses for a
Speaker 1: nineteen sixty two Ford Falcon futura. Huh does anybody recall
Speaker 1: what color he said that this thing was? Could it
Speaker 1: possibly be light blue? Which would make mister Henry J.
Speaker 1: Winkler an accessory to the crime guys in the chat?
Speaker 1: If you want to pull up what you count on,
Speaker 1: Henry J. Winkler Oddsar, Louisiana, resident, eight hundred Oaklawn mitterary.
Speaker 1: The nineteen sixty one New Orleans City Directory reflects Henry J. Winkler,
Speaker 1: wife Maury reside at three two two eight Saint Claude Avenue.
Speaker 1: Also Henry J. Winkler Real Estate thirty four to twenty
Speaker 1: one South Claiborne. Audrey Winkler Stenographic Clerk, Louisiana Division of
Speaker 1: Employment Security is also listed at thirty four to twenty
Speaker 1: one South Claiborne. Nineteen sixty two New Orleans Suburban Area
Speaker 1: city directory reflects no alphabetical listing for Winkler. There's no
Speaker 1: listing for municipal number eight hundred Oklawn Drive in this
Speaker 1: directory or in the telephone street address directory issued for
Speaker 1: December of nineteen sixty two. Then it just says pending.
Speaker 1: Next page appears to be an Eastern Airlines internal memo
Speaker 1: Ronald Hubner to Ronald Hubner from Chase Carson, date July sixteenth,
Speaker 1: nineteen sixty three, referenced David Ferry. The records of that
Speaker 1: one case in Jefferson Parish were refused. They were viewed, however,
Speaker 1: and the pertinent contents were the same statements sent to
Speaker 1: Miami yesterday in New Orleans case h H eighty five
Speaker 1: oh seven, Dash sixty one and closed with the police
Speaker 1: reports and statements of John T. Cater which make up
Speaker 1: the record. In B seven nine oh four Dash six two,
Speaker 1: Juvenile Bureau, February eighteen, nineteen sixty two, Item B seven
Speaker 1: nine oh four sixty two to Joseph I. Jeruso, Superintendent
Speaker 1: of Police from Mayor Adolph ah Nice strong name from
Speaker 1: Major Adolph Meierhoffer. Oh, what a good German name, Supervisor
Speaker 1: of Juvenile Bureau. Subject investigation of extortion allegedly committed by
Speaker 1: David W. Ferry, aged forty one, of three thirty one
Speaker 1: Atherton Drive. So we're backing up now into the investigation
Speaker 1: of the allegations against him, the extortion allegation involving Eric Frusche.
Speaker 1: So let's see Ronald Fournier and Charles Jeneaux of the
Speaker 1: Juvenile Bureau report of having investigated a matter involving extortion
Speaker 1: allegedly committed by David Ferry, white male, aged forty one
Speaker 1: of three thirty one Athterton Drive, on February sixteenth, nineteen
Speaker 1: sixty two, at ten am Fourtyer the writer of this report,
Speaker 1: in company with Jehaneau. Additionally, report of having conducted investigations
Speaker 1: involving David Ferry in the past four months, which began
Speaker 1: on August sixteenth, nineteen sixty one. Officers Fournier and Jeanneaux
Speaker 1: will be referred to as investigating officers during the remainder
Speaker 1: ethest report. Investigating officers conducted investigations in August and September
Speaker 1: of nineteen sixty one, which led to the arrest of
Speaker 1: David Ferry, which investigations resulted in charges of contributing to
Speaker 1: the delinquency of a minor, indecent behavior with juveniles, crimes
Speaker 1: against nature, and public intimidation. Charges against Ferry were accepted
Speaker 1: in New Orleans and Jefferson parishes. In the impending cases
Speaker 1: against Ferry won Eric Michael Cruchet, White, Maile, aged sixteen
Speaker 1: of fifty five oh five Marey Street, is a witness.
Speaker 1: On the morning of February sixteenth, nineteen sixty two, investigating
Speaker 1: officer Furty A received a phone call from the father
Speaker 1: of Eric Cruschet, who complained that a friend of his,
Speaker 1: John T. Cater, white male, aged forty one oh five
Speaker 1: four to five forur Dauphine Street, had been intimidated and
Speaker 1: that Ferry had made arrangements for a meeting with Cater
Speaker 1: after telling Kater that he Ferry had a proposition to
Speaker 1: discuss Mister Kruschet explained to investigating officers that Cater was
Speaker 1: frightened and that Cater contacted him informing him. Cruche that
Speaker 1: Ferry wanted to meet. Cruchet told officers that he instructed
Speaker 1: Cater to go along with Ferry with the idea of
Speaker 1: notifying authorities. Cater and Ferry made arrangements to meet at
Speaker 1: Canal and Barone Street at ten am February sixteenth, nineteen
Speaker 1: sixty two, in front of the Walgreen's drug store. Mister
Speaker 1: Cruchet asked investigating officers if they would attempt to witness
Speaker 1: this meeting. At nine fifty am on February sixteenth, nineteen
Speaker 1: sixty two, officers took up a position at Lord's Department
Speaker 1: Store for Women on Canal and Baron, across the street
Speaker 1: from the Walgreen's drug store. Immediately upon arrival, officers noticed
Speaker 1: that David Ferry standing in front of the drug store
Speaker 1: with dark glasses on. Officers observed that Ferry kept walking
Speaker 1: in and out of the drug store for about ten minutes,
Speaker 1: and he came outside and disappeared from officer's view after
Speaker 1: he began walking up Canal Street in the direction of
Speaker 1: Clayborne Avenue. Investigating officers did not attempt to pick up
Speaker 1: Ferry again, as Faerry is thoroughly acquainted with them. Officers
Speaker 1: waited until approximately noon on February sixteenth, nineteen sixty two,
Speaker 1: and went to the home of mister Cruschet, where mister
Speaker 1: Cater was found. Cater had arrived shortly before the arrival
Speaker 1: of officers. Mister Cruschet explained that mister Cater was a
Speaker 1: friend of his and had been for three years. Officers
Speaker 1: observed that Cater was very nervous at the time. Stated
Speaker 1: that Ferry had met him at the designated time and
Speaker 1: location and they had driven off in a car operated
Speaker 1: by a subject known only to him as Butch Huh,
Speaker 1: which of Fairy's friends was known as Butch. Cater told
Speaker 1: officers that they drove him to Tulane Avenue into a
Speaker 1: Carrollton section to a Royal Castle restaurant. During the ride,
Speaker 1: they discussed the cases pending against Ferry. Cater explained to
Speaker 1: officers that Ferry asked him to get Mike Cruche to
Speaker 1: change his mind about testifying againainst him. Kater told officers
Speaker 1: it Fairry threatened that if Crusche gave a testimony against him,
Speaker 1: Fairry that he Faerry would get him Cater involved in
Speaker 1: a sex ring. Cater stated that Ferry told him that
Speaker 1: he had affid David's by many boys who'd accuse Kter
Speaker 1: of having sex parties at his house. For further details,
Speaker 1: see the attached statement made by Cater taken at the
Speaker 1: Juvenile Bureau by investigating officers. Cater stated additionally that the
Speaker 1: meeting took place in a Chevrolet convertible, but he did
Speaker 1: not know the make of the car. He stated that
Speaker 1: he thought the car belonged to the subject known as
Speaker 1: Butchkter said also that he had never known or seen
Speaker 1: Captain David Ferry in all his life, and that he
Speaker 1: didn't understand how Ferry had obtained his name and phone
Speaker 1: number at work. Investigating officers consulted with Assistant District Attorney
Speaker 1: Richard cether Si se I T H E R in
Speaker 1: this matter, and he advised officers to question Ferry and
Speaker 1: present a report to the District Attorney's office. Investigating officers
Speaker 1: went to the home of David Ferry at three thirty
Speaker 1: one hours and drive at three thirty pm on February sixteenth,
Speaker 1: nineteen sixty two, in company with Sergeant Joseph Barns of
Speaker 1: the Jefferson Parish Sheriff's Office. On arrival of officers at
Speaker 1: the home of Fairy, it was observed that several boys
Speaker 1: were standing around the front lawn of Ferry's residents. Ferry
Speaker 1: came to the door invited officers to enter. Upon entering,
Speaker 1: officers recognized Lawrence Marsh White, male, aged nineteen to forty
Speaker 1: four or four Majestic Oak Street in Gretna, Louisiana, known
Speaker 1: to the officers as butch Ah So we got Lawrence Marsh,
Speaker 1: known as Butch in previous investigations, Ferry was placed under arrest.
Speaker 1: Ferry admitted being downtown at Canal and Baron at ten
Speaker 1: am on two, sixteen sixty two, but refused to say
Speaker 1: why he'd gone to this location. He stated only that
Speaker 1: he'd gone to meet somebody. Lawrence Marsh stated that he
Speaker 1: had driven Ferry and his Chevrolet convertible to meet someone
Speaker 1: down at ten am to sixteen sixty two, but would
Speaker 1: not say anything more about the meeting. Officers observed the
Speaker 1: Chevy convertible LA sixty two license one O seven eight
Speaker 1: to eight parked in the front yard of Ferry's residence.
Speaker 1: Ferry was booked at the East Bank Jail and was
Speaker 1: immediately taken to the First District station by investigating officers
Speaker 1: and booked with RS fourteen Article sixty six relative to extortion.
Speaker 1: He refused to answer questions and on the advice of
Speaker 1: his attorney. John Cater is a male nurse who lives alone.
Speaker 1: He has been married and is divorced. He has a
Speaker 1: teenage son who is in the military service. Mister Cruchet
Speaker 1: stated that mister Cater has been more than a good
Speaker 1: friend for over three years. Cater stated that he has
Speaker 1: no police record, has never been arrested. He was asked
Speaker 1: by officers a Ferry could prove the accusations, and he
Speaker 1: stated that Ferry positively could not. On Sunday, February eighteenth,
Speaker 1: nineteen sixty two, Cater came to the Juvenile Bureau and
Speaker 1: formed investigating officers that he'd received a phone call from
Speaker 1: two boys, one of whom stated he was calling from
Speaker 1: Ferry's residence. The phone call, according to Cater, was made
Speaker 1: about four pm on February sixteenth, sixty two, a short
Speaker 1: while after Fairy Woe arrested. Cater told officers the boys
Speaker 1: to asked him if he had made a statement against
Speaker 1: Ferry and asked them why he made it. The boys
Speaker 1: told him that Ferry was only trying to help all
Speaker 1: boys who were involved in the impending cases in New
Speaker 1: Orleans and Jefferson Parish courts, and that Ferry was also
Speaker 1: trying to help him Cater. The telephone conversation ended, and
Speaker 1: Cater identified one of the boys. As it says Alvin Bobach.
Speaker 1: But it's Beau boof a boy whom he had previously
Speaker 1: met at a skating rink, Which is funny because remember
Speaker 1: David Ferry said that he was the only one who
Speaker 1: knew how to skate right, hilarious. After the discussion, Butch
Speaker 1: and Ferry drove me to flood in Burgundy Street. It
Speaker 1: was about twelve noon. I walked over to mister Cruschet's
Speaker 1: house and shortly after the police arrived. The rest is
Speaker 1: a Q and a question. How long have you known
Speaker 1: the Cruche family? About three years? I visited them regularly
Speaker 1: and they visit me. Had you known Ferry before this incident?
Speaker 1: Never saw him before in my life. Had you ever
Speaker 1: known the boy named Butch? No, only by sights. I've
Speaker 1: seen him at a skating rink in the past. So
Speaker 1: what is it with skating rinks? Right? My opinion, it's
Speaker 1: where these kids can get trafficked and doesn't look out
Speaker 1: a place for kids to be there, right, any place
Speaker 1: it would look normal for a kid to be, It
Speaker 1: would be a good place to traffic them. Is there
Speaker 1: anything more you'd like to add? At about four pm
Speaker 1: February sixteenth, I received a phone call at my house
Speaker 1: from Alvin boboof a boy I know from the skating rink.
Speaker 1: I asked him where I was and he stated that
Speaker 1: where he was. This is all kind of jumbled. I
Speaker 1: asked him where he was. He said he was at
Speaker 1: Dave Ferry's house. He stated that he had someone on
Speaker 1: the line who wanted to talk to me. Some other
Speaker 1: boys whom I don't know and who didn't identify himself
Speaker 1: spoke with me and asked if I had made a
Speaker 1: statement to the police. I told him no. He told
Speaker 1: me that David Ferry was trying to help me and
Speaker 1: other boys told me that police had been to Faerry's
Speaker 1: house and picked him up. He asked me if I
Speaker 1: had ever heard the police threat and to kill Ferry,
Speaker 1: even get even with him, or make remarks about it.
Speaker 1: The conversation ended when I told him that I wasn't interested.
Speaker 1: Do you have any idea of how Ferry got your
Speaker 1: name and phone number at work? No? Is this statement
Speaker 1: true and corrected the best of your knowledge? Yes, signed
Speaker 1: John Cater. So interesting statement from Cater m all right.
Speaker 1: Continuing on page three, investigating officers feel that Cater is
Speaker 1: being used by Ferry in order that Ferry can gain
Speaker 1: an acquittal in his appending cases in the courts of
Speaker 1: Orleans and Jefferson Parish. Investigating officers would also point out
Speaker 1: that Cater once hung around a skating rink and knew
Speaker 1: many young boys, which included boboof and Marsh whom Cater
Speaker 1: only knew his Butcher. Thus, Cater would be a good
Speaker 1: target for Fairry's threats and intimidation. Officers check the Police
Speaker 1: Bureau of Identification and found that they have no record
Speaker 1: on John Cater. The District Attorney will be consulted. Signed
Speaker 1: Fournier and Joea Investigators. All Right Juvenile Bureau, February sixteen
Speaker 1: sixty two. Statement of John T. Cater, White male, age
Speaker 1: forty one. He's forty one year olds hanging out with
Speaker 1: teenagers creeps, resigning at fifty four to fifty four Dauphine Street,
Speaker 1: relative to an investigation of intimidation and threats. I John Cater,
Speaker 1: without threats or promises, make the following statement and will
Speaker 1: answer all questions asked of me. I was working at
Speaker 1: two h one to five State Street in a private
Speaker 1: home on Thursday night, February fifteen sixty two, and I
Speaker 1: received a phone call about eight thirty PM from a
Speaker 1: man who asked me, do you know who this is?
Speaker 1: I told him I had a good idea, and he said,
Speaker 1: I'd like to meet you tomorrow. I have a proposition.
Speaker 1: I suspected that it was Dave Ferry on the phone
Speaker 1: because I had heard about him and the trouble was
Speaker 1: caused he was causing between Mike Crusche and the other boys.
Speaker 1: I was nervous about him calling at my work and
Speaker 1: I didn't know what to do, so I just told
Speaker 1: him that I would meet him. He asked me where
Speaker 1: it was a good place to meet, and I told
Speaker 1: him Walgreens on Canal Street because I was familiar with
Speaker 1: the location as I passed this place every day. I
Speaker 1: picked this place because it was safe and I didn't
Speaker 1: want to be alone with this man. He hung up
Speaker 1: shortly after the conversation. I tried to get mister Gruchet
Speaker 1: that same night, but changed my mind because I didn't
Speaker 1: want to disturb them. I called mister Gruchet this morning
Speaker 1: about eight am to tell him what happened. Mister Gruche
Speaker 1: told me to go ahead and meet with Ferry and
Speaker 1: said that he would notify the police. I met Ferry
Speaker 1: this morning at the designated time in place ten am.
Speaker 1: He told me he had a car and that Butch
Speaker 1: was with him and that he would take we would
Speaker 1: take a ride. I got in the car, which was
Speaker 1: parked by the curb on Canal directly in front of
Speaker 1: the Center Theater. It looked like a Chevrolet convertible to me,
Speaker 1: and Butch was driving it. Ferry wanted to drive around
Speaker 1: the block because he was expecting some kid to meet
Speaker 1: him there. The kid didn't show up, so then we
Speaker 1: drove up to Lane Avenue to Carrollton section and we
Speaker 1: started talking while driving. We drove to some Royal Castle restaurant,
Speaker 1: but I don't remember where it was because I was
Speaker 1: nervous and unfamiliar with the neighborhood. Fairy talked about his
Speaker 1: case and explained to me that if Mike Cruche would
Speaker 1: not testify, no one would get in trouble. He stated
Speaker 1: that he had affidavids against me and that Cruche and
Speaker 1: the hockey players at the skating rink. He stated that
Speaker 1: it would be very serious for us if the Cruche
Speaker 1: boy testified against him. He asked me to get Mike
Speaker 1: to change his mind not to talk and to testify
Speaker 1: against him. He stated that he was doing this only
Speaker 1: to help all the boys who were involved, because he
Speaker 1: was interested in boys, you think. Fairy stated to me
Speaker 1: that he had affidavids from boys who had been to
Speaker 1: my house on several occasions on sex parties. He stated
Speaker 1: that he was going to get Mike and his brother
Speaker 1: Courtland involved in his sex ring and was making implications
Speaker 1: to make me believe that he had affidavids against me
Speaker 1: for having sex parties at my house. He told me
Speaker 1: I was closer to the Cruchet family to anybody, and
Speaker 1: he told me that I should have influence over them.
Speaker 1: I was wondering at the time how Ferry came to
Speaker 1: know that I was good friends with a Cruchet family.
Speaker 1: He gave me his phone number, which was a Vernon number,
Speaker 1: which I have at home. He told me to call
Speaker 1: him and let him know the results of what I
Speaker 1: could do for him. Butch heard the entire conversation between
Speaker 1: Fairy and me. He even butted in stated that he'd
Speaker 1: been to my house too. I can say definitely that
Speaker 1: Butch has never been to my house. I don't even
Speaker 1: know his real name. We did most of the talking
Speaker 1: while riding in the car. We did not do much
Speaker 1: talking after we went to get a cup of coffee,
Speaker 1: says continued, but then that page cuts off. Next thing
Speaker 1: we got New Orleans Police Department, Juvenile Bureau, August twenty third,
Speaker 1: nineteen sixty one. Statement of James Landry, white male, aged sixteen,
Speaker 1: residing three thousand and six domain relative to Captain Dave Ferry,
Speaker 1: white male, age forty five by residing three thirty one Atherton,
Speaker 1: contributing to the delinquency of juveniles. The below statement will
Speaker 1: be in question and answer form. Question to be asked
Speaker 1: by Charles Jeneaux and answered by James Landry. I think
Speaker 1: it's Alexandra Landry, Alexander James Landry, do you know? Or
Speaker 1: maybe it's James Alexander Landry, but either way it's al Landry.
Speaker 1: Do you know Captain Dave Ferry? Yes, sir. How did
Speaker 1: you get to meet him? Through my father who worked
Speaker 1: at Eastern Airlines where Captain Ferry is a pilot. Will
Speaker 1: you remember the Civil Air Patrol the cap'n Ferry was in, Yes, sir,
Speaker 1: the Metarie Falcon Squadron. Did you ever attend any parties
Speaker 1: at Captain Ferry's house on Atherton Drive, Yes, sir? What
Speaker 1: happened at those parties. Well, at one of the parties
Speaker 1: we brought our dates and danced and had whiskey and
Speaker 1: beer to drink. All the rest of the parties were
Speaker 1: stag parties. All the parties you went to at cap'n
Speaker 1: Ferry's house, you were allowed to drink whiskey and beer, yes, sir.
Speaker 1: And it really wasn't can't read what this word is.
Speaker 1: It was just a get together. It really wasn't a party.
Speaker 1: It was just get together after the meetings. Okay, there
Speaker 1: we go. Have you ever seen any obscene, loud or
Speaker 1: dirty pictures at the home of David Ferry, Yes, sir.
Speaker 1: I saw some of those small comic books with people fucking.
Speaker 1: And he had some photographs that Captain said were from
Speaker 1: Mexico that had a man and a woman screwing. Did
Speaker 1: you ever see any boy drink at Captain Faerriy's home
Speaker 1: after a party there? I was high a couple of times.
Speaker 1: Al Landry was high. Huh, maybe James Landry is a
Speaker 1: different person from al Andrey. I was high a couple
Speaker 1: of times. Al Landry was high. He drank at most
Speaker 1: of the parties I went to. What month and day
Speaker 1: did those parties take place. Well, we had a party
Speaker 1: Christmas Eve of nineteen sixty and we had whiskey and beer.
Speaker 1: Who was at this party? Alandry was there, Donnie Edwards
Speaker 1: was there for a little while. Late In Martin's was
Speaker 1: there and they didn't have too many How did you
Speaker 1: get to see these pictures you mentioned before, the lude pictures?
Speaker 1: The Captain handed them to me and told me to
Speaker 1: look at them. It cuts off there again, that's two
Speaker 1: documents in a row that just cut off there. So
Speaker 1: here we go. It picks up like two pages later
Speaker 1: with a statement in the middle, so we're gonna have
Speaker 1: to double back to this. Did you ever spend the
Speaker 1: night at Captain Ferry's house? Yes, they're about seven times.
Speaker 1: Where did you sleep when you stayed at the Captain's home?
Speaker 1: Who did you sleep with when you stayed at the
Speaker 1: Captain's home? Captain Fairy? Did you ever have any sex
Speaker 1: relations with the captain while you were sleeping with him? Yes, sir,
Speaker 1: I was sleeping with the Captain and I woke up
Speaker 1: and he was jerking me off. While he was jerking
Speaker 1: me off, he jerked himself off. Do you remember what
Speaker 1: day this happened? I can't remember the date, but I
Speaker 1: can't read this word. The whole thing is pretty clear
Speaker 1: except for this one fucking word. Um, but he jerked
Speaker 1: me about three times. Do you know of any other
Speaker 1: boys that the captain had sex relations with? No, sir,
Speaker 1: Is there anything else you haven't told me pertaining to
Speaker 1: the activities at Captain Dave Ferri's home. No, sir, that's all.
Speaker 1: Is the above statement true? And to the best of
Speaker 1: your knowledge? Did you give the statement freely of your
Speaker 1: own will, without threats or promise. Yes, they're assigned James Landry,
Speaker 1: So that must be Al Landry's brother. Okay, so now
Speaker 1: I can double back because this other statement picks up,
Speaker 1: so it just kind of splits off here. This is
Speaker 1: gonna be a statement of Eric Kruschem. If I find
Speaker 1: that we've already covered this, I'm probably gonna skip it.
Speaker 1: But it looks new. Juvenile Bureau, August twenty, second, sixty one,
Speaker 1: Jefferson Parish Police Statement of Eric Michael Krusche A sixteen.
Speaker 1: My name is Eric Crusche, and I, without threats or promises,
Speaker 1: make the following statement. Will answer all questions asked of me.
Speaker 1: Did we just read this? I don't think so. Okay,
Speaker 1: here we go. Do you know Captain David Ferry of
Speaker 1: three thirty one Atherton. Yes, he's a pilot with Eastern Airlines.
Speaker 1: When did you first meet Captain Faery? It was about
Speaker 1: a year and a half to two years ago, after Halloween,
Speaker 1: when I joined the Civil Air Patrol. Can you tell
Speaker 1: us anything about your knowledge of Captain Fairy. When I
Speaker 1: first joined the outfit, I found out that there were
Speaker 1: going to be a lot of drinking parties. So I
Speaker 1: tried to find out what the parties were like, and
Speaker 1: I found out when I went to my first party
Speaker 1: there were whiskey and beer drinks. One of the parties
Speaker 1: held at one of the female cadets house. Captain Ferry
Speaker 1: was there too. After the party, cap'n Ferry left with
Speaker 1: three boys. Since then, I've gone to many parties where
Speaker 1: there was heavy drinking and Captain Ferry. I've gone to
Speaker 1: about ten or fifteen of these parties. I did so
Speaker 1: much drinking at this time that I almost became an alcoholic.
Speaker 1: Most of the stag drinking parties were held at Captain
Speaker 1: Ferry's house when he lived on Airline Park Boulevard, and
Speaker 1: some on Atherton Drive. One night Captain Ferry rented the
Speaker 1: Walnut Room at the New Orleans Airport for a Mardi
Speaker 1: Gras party for boys and girls. They had plenty of
Speaker 1: beer at the party and they were about thirty kids
Speaker 1: there that night. That was Marti grav nineteen sixty and
Speaker 1: about three or four of us who got really drunk.
Speaker 1: Two weeks after Marti Graus, I went to his house
Speaker 1: on Airline Park Boulevard and we went out riding and
Speaker 1: had a few drinks. Captain Fairy bought the drinks and
Speaker 1: we were drinking while we were driving. We went to
Speaker 1: the New Orleans Airport and he bought me six beers.
Speaker 1: We went to Captain Fairy's house at Airline Park at
Speaker 1: six am and we went to bed together. Captain Fairy
Speaker 1: showed me a book with just writing in it, and
Speaker 1: it was a sexy story that he told me that
Speaker 1: he was going to jerk off. Captain Fairy asked me
Speaker 1: if I was going to jerk off. Captain Ferry climbed
Speaker 1: on top of me and put his penis on top
Speaker 1: of my legs. He had a discharge on me and
Speaker 1: then he went to sleep. A couple of weeks later,
Speaker 1: y Yum Right a couple of weeks later, I went
Speaker 1: over to his house again and Captain Ferry gave me
Speaker 1: the same book and let me read it. He jerked
Speaker 1: me off, and he jerked himself off at the same time,
Speaker 1: And when I had my discharge, he was looking at it.
Speaker 1: About one month later, Captain Ferry, Lighton Martin's and myself
Speaker 1: were going home from drill and we had just taken
Speaker 1: Carl Costa home. We were getting ready Carl Costa, Okay,
Speaker 1: so remember that name, Carl Costa. We were getting ready
Speaker 1: to take Layton home, and Ferry asked Layton if he
Speaker 1: wanted to spend the night at his house, and Laighton
Speaker 1: said all right. While in the car we got the
Speaker 1: discussion of jerking off and Lighton and Captain Ferry and
Speaker 1: I if we ever jerked off and discharge enough to
Speaker 1: come for us to hit you in the eye. I
Speaker 1: noticed when I was in Captain Fairy's house that there
Speaker 1: were spots all over the wall and all over his dresser,
Speaker 1: and it looked like discharge spots. That's so gross. The
Speaker 1: three of us drove to Captain Ferry's house and Layton
Speaker 1: slept in the living room and me and Captain Ferry
Speaker 1: went to Captain Fairy's bedroom. Captain Ferry jerked me off
Speaker 1: and he jerked himself off. After that, I went to sleep,
Speaker 1: and the next morning when I woke up, Captain Ferry
Speaker 1: had his and it cuts off again. Does it pick up?
Speaker 1: Does it pick up? Yes, had his penis in my
Speaker 1: rectum direct them. It nearly killed him. U. I didn't
Speaker 1: let him know that I was awake, and I turned
Speaker 1: over and it came out when I let him know.
Speaker 1: I woke up. We dressed and went out to New
Speaker 1: Orleans Airport and worked on the planes and something up
Speaker 1: to the building. Captain Ferry told us a few days
Speaker 1: or weeks later that he was going to move to
Speaker 1: Atherton Drive and he asked me to help him move.
Speaker 1: Al Landry, one of the boys in Civil Air Patrol,
Speaker 1: helped us move Captain Ferry. On the day we moved,
Speaker 1: and Captain Ferry got some whiskey and we went back
Speaker 1: to the apartment at Atherton Drive and Captain Ferry showed
Speaker 1: us some sex books. It was one of those you
Speaker 1: can buy at the news stand. Captain Ferry told us
Speaker 1: that we had to break in the new house and
Speaker 1: everybody jerking off. We finished our drinks and something too
Speaker 1: drove and we two Al Andrew home and while we
Speaker 1: were riding home, capt'n Fairy and Al asked why we
Speaker 1: didn't jerk off tonight and break in the house. It
Speaker 1: was about twelve thirty am, and cap'n Faery asked said
Speaker 1: that it was too late. We took Al home and
Speaker 1: then he took me home. I was having a few
Speaker 1: arguments with my father and Captain Ferry tried to straighten
Speaker 1: out the trouble. After he moved into his house on
Speaker 1: Atherton Drive, I spent the night over at his house
Speaker 1: and we went to bed together and he jerked me
Speaker 1: off and blew me. He put his mouth on my
Speaker 1: penis and came up and started kissing my neck, and
Speaker 1: he then went back down again. I left off my
Speaker 1: discharge in his mouth. This happened about three days or
Speaker 1: three days after he moved into the Atherton Drive address.
Speaker 1: The following weekend, after he blew me, I remember, then
Speaker 1: Al share me ran away from home and Captain Ferry
Speaker 1: had me go back and something al Charemy's house to
Speaker 1: see if he could come home. And if he did
Speaker 1: come home, I was interested to get Al put him
Speaker 1: in a cab and see that. He went to the
Speaker 1: Captain's house, and from there the captain told me that
Speaker 1: he was going to send Cheermy to Corpus Christi, Texas.
Speaker 1: Captain Ferry, Captain Fairy something told me that he has
Speaker 1: a friend in Houston who was who he was blowing,
Speaker 1: and this guy in Houston was blowing him. Couldn't be
Speaker 1: Jack Valente, couldn't We told him that this guy in
Speaker 1: Houston was married something. About six months ago, we had
Speaker 1: a party at Captain Fairy's house and some of the
Speaker 1: boys went home, and some of the boys stayed there.
Speaker 1: I was so drunk that I passed out. The next day.
Speaker 1: When I went home, my parents were pretty mad because
Speaker 1: I hadn't told them where I was, and they had
Speaker 1: to call Captain Ferry about three am and find out
Speaker 1: where I was. About six months ago, I was at
Speaker 1: Captain Ferry's house and he showed me some pictures that
Speaker 1: showed sexual intercourse between male and females, and he had
Speaker 1: some between two men doing sixty nine together. He had
Speaker 1: some of those little comic books showing people having sexual intercourse.
Speaker 1: As I remember, was Snuffy Smith, the traveling salesman. The
Speaker 1: babysitter and others see see I told we were just
Speaker 1: talking about this on Days zero. The people have been
Speaker 1: freaky forever. Okay, people have been fucking the babysitter forever
Speaker 1: in their fucking pornos. This is how it goes. There's
Speaker 1: nothing new going on. Also, he also had some movie
Speaker 1: film sixteen millimeter projector, but told me that the reason
Speaker 1: he couldn't show them to me is because the films
Speaker 1: were broken. I looked at the film and held it
Speaker 1: up to the light and I could see people having
Speaker 1: sexual intercourse, a man going down on a woman and
Speaker 1: a woman going down on a man. The place the
Speaker 1: film was kept when I saw it was in his
Speaker 1: laboratory on Atherton Drive. I think laboratory is located in
Speaker 1: his garage, and he also has a study room from
Speaker 1: the garage and you have to pull a ladder down
Speaker 1: from the ceiling. I also saw this film when he
Speaker 1: was living on Airline Park Boulevard. We had a party
Speaker 1: at Captain Ferriy's home one night and we were playing
Speaker 1: football in his house. We were up in the bedroom
Speaker 1: and he said lighton. Martin's were in bed and both
Speaker 1: Mark March I can't see what that says, it looks
Speaker 1: like March, but it doesn't make any sense. And I were, oh, Marsh, Marsh,
Speaker 1: there we go. Marsha and I were crashing late in
Speaker 1: the bed and it broke and Captain Ferry punched me
Speaker 1: in the side of the face. And some of the
Speaker 1: boys told me later that I was knocked out. And
Speaker 1: this is parts Q and A. How many boys do
Speaker 1: you think Captain Ferry has corrupted since you have known him?
Speaker 1: At least ten, there were no twenty, at least twenty.
Speaker 1: There were fifty kids in the squadron, including girls. Many
Speaker 1: of the kids had not drank much before joining the squadron.
Speaker 1: Do you think Captain Fairy's squadron was on the level?
Speaker 1: Do you think Captain Ferry was giving you the proper
Speaker 1: training in civil air patrol work? The whole squadron was
Speaker 1: not handled right. He didn't teach us what he was
Speaker 1: supposed to. One time, I knew that I had flung
Speaker 1: to test, but I passed it. I know that there
Speaker 1: was something going wrong. And is his statement Truman korrect? He
Speaker 1: says yes, and he signs it very interesting stuff. Huh.
Speaker 1: All right, We've got a couple more minutes, so let's
Speaker 1: continue on for now. New Orleans Chapter of the Military
Speaker 1: Order of World Wars held its regular meeting at Lafont's Boulevard,
Speaker 1: Room fifty two thirty six Canal Boulevard, July twenty fourth,
Speaker 1: sixty one. The meeting was called to order at nineteen
Speaker 1: hundred hours. This is probably one of those things that
Speaker 1: he spoke at that he got in trouble for Presiding
Speaker 1: Rear Admiral T. J. Ryan Jr. Pledge, Captain Gail Schneidoh
Speaker 1: Junior Preamble, Captain Francis Grevenburg Invocation, Colonel Lansing L. Mitchell.
Speaker 1: The Commander called for the introduction of guests and roll call,
Speaker 1: and welcomed one new member present and attending the meeting
Speaker 1: for the first time, and explained to him the purpose
Speaker 1: and object of the Order. There were seventy members and
Speaker 1: five guests present. In the absence of the Adjudant, Colonel
Speaker 1: Frank Spies. Spiss Or Spies read the minutes of the
Speaker 1: previous meeting and the membership approval. The minutes as read.
Speaker 1: The Treasurer's report for the month of June was read,
Speaker 1: showing a cash balance of one oh five seven oh
Speaker 1: six as of thirtieth of June sixty one. There being
Speaker 1: no objection, the report of the Treasurer was received and filed.
Speaker 1: Commander Ryan reported for the chairman of the American Committee
Speaker 1: at the Times Picking Units accepted the fly of the
Speaker 1: United States flag campaign obtained three thousand flags and will
Speaker 1: run a large add in the paper on August sixth,
Speaker 1: sixty one. The target day to have everyone possible fly
Speaker 1: the flag is Veteran's Day, November eleventh. The rest of
Speaker 1: this is just normal, like meeting minute stuff. Doesn't seem
Speaker 1: to have any relevance to what we're talking about. Okay,
Speaker 1: let me continue on. I'll skip the next paragraph. The
Speaker 1: speaker of the evening, Captain David W. Ferry, Senior pilot
Speaker 1: Eastern Airlines, spoke on Cuba April nineteen sixty one, Present
Speaker 1: and future. At the opening of his presentation, he indicated
Speaker 1: his talk would be controversial, when partly through the presentation,
Speaker 1: the Commander Rose apologized for interrupting the speaker and told
Speaker 1: him the tenor of his remarks up to that point
Speaker 1: were contrary to the preamble and objectives for which the
Speaker 1: Military Order of the World Wars stands, and that if
Speaker 1: he wished to speak, he could not speak as our
Speaker 1: guest speaker, but as a private citizen and to the
Speaker 1: members present as private citizens. After a German of the meeting,
Speaker 1: Captain Fery determined he would stop his presentation, Commander Ryan
Speaker 1: then formally adjourned the meeting in accordance with the prescribed
Speaker 1: ritual at twenty one hundred hours. So pretty interesting stuff.
Speaker 1: See that meeting in particular is fairly well known. It
Speaker 1: was talked about in the JFK movie and it comes
Speaker 1: up a couple times in the investigation of his background.
Speaker 1: And the reason it's important is because it's a character
Speaker 1: building thing, right. Character building is as an important aspect
Speaker 1: of investigations as the details of whatever crime you're investigating,
Speaker 1: if not more important. All right, what is this report
Speaker 1: of investigation? Date February fifteen sixty three, subject David William
Speaker 1: Ferry synopsis The most Reverend Marsha Christopher I was from
Speaker 1: probably one of the churches. M Stanley, Archbishop Metropolitan Apostoly
Speaker 1: Orthodox Old Catholic Church of North America, Louisville, Kentucky, advised
Speaker 1: that on the occasion of being asked to consecrate David
Speaker 1: William Ferry as a bishop in the churches above. He
Speaker 1: Stanley learned from a friend the fairy had been accused
Speaker 1: of committing overt acts of unnatural sexual behavior, and on
Speaker 1: the basis of this information, Stanley refused to perform consecration ceremony,
Speaker 1: and on the basis of the same information, later took
Speaker 1: the initiative to excommunicate Ferry from the church. Details of
Speaker 1: the investigation. This investigation was prompted by receipt of a
Speaker 1: letter dated February seventh, sixty three from mister Charles Carson,
Speaker 1: Manager New Orleans Office, Southern Research Company, Inc. Connected to
Speaker 1: Eastern Airlines eight to eight Maritime Building, New Orleans twelve, Louisiana,
Speaker 1: requesting information concerning action taken by Chancellor's Office. Holy Catholic
Speaker 1: Apostolic Church, Sacred Congregation of the Consistory Patriarchy of Antioch
Speaker 1: Church of North America six h three blah blah blah,
Speaker 1: blah blah and all the blah blah blahs. On February fifteenth,
Speaker 1: nineteen sixty three, I interviewed the Most Reverend Maria Christopher C. J. M. Stanley,
Speaker 1: who further identified himself as Archbishop Metropolitan of Apostolic Orthodox
Speaker 1: Old Catholic Church of North America with headquarters on Broadway
Speaker 1: in Louisville, Kentucky. Blah blah blah skip that. Reverend Stanley
Speaker 1: told me that this religious organization, as stated above, was
Speaker 1: an offshoot of the Roman Catholic Church and was completely
Speaker 1: independent and in no way affiliated officially with the Roman
Speaker 1: Catholic Church. It's a fake church, totally fake church. He
Speaker 1: further said his particular independent order had its origin in Germany.
Speaker 1: He also referred to an act of affiliate in Canada
Speaker 1: based out of some lawyer's office. Right The dwelling at
Speaker 1: four twenty to six West Broadway, Louisville serves as its
Speaker 1: headquarters for the order and is also used as his
Speaker 1: residence and as a small section designated as a chapel
Speaker 1: where he holds services. Yeah bullshit. Reverend Stanley was told
Speaker 1: the purpose of my visit in that it concerned the
Speaker 1: personality of David William Ferry, and in particular the origin
Speaker 1: of the letter emanating from sources considered to be that
Speaker 1: of his office as a high official of the Church
Speaker 1: of which Ferry was also affiliated, from which he was excommunicated.
Speaker 1: References were made to a letter dated January ninth, sixty
Speaker 1: two from the Chancellor's Office, Province of North America, six
Speaker 1: oh three Cecil Avenue, Louisiana, eleven Kentucky, which advised that
Speaker 1: Fairy was degraded and cast out of the clergy and
Speaker 1: Church in America. Reverend Stanley informed me that he wrote
Speaker 1: the letter referred to above as is. It was sent
Speaker 1: to the office of Eastern Airlines in New Orleans for
Speaker 1: the purpose of requesting the return of certain church property
Speaker 1: that was issued to Ferry as an official of the
Speaker 1: church and that was used in conducting services and business
Speaker 1: of the church. Reverend said that he mentioned the reason
Speaker 1: for requesting the return of the property is that it
Speaker 1: was necessary due to the excommunication of Fairy from the
Speaker 1: church for reasons of alleged acts of unnatural sexual relations
Speaker 1: imposed upon children. Reverend Stanley said that he learned of
Speaker 1: Ferry through the right most Reverend Monsieur Jean s. Martin,
Speaker 1: Bishop to the Apostolic Orthodox Old Catholic Church of North America,
Speaker 1: whose addresses thirteen eleven North Prior Street, New Orleans, Louisiana.
Speaker 1: Prior Street didn't that come up earlier? Prior Street didn't
Speaker 1: come up earlier. Maybe attached to one of them license
Speaker 1: plates Reverend Stanley said that Reverend Martin was ordained as
Speaker 1: a priest by Stanley in June ninth of nineteen sixty
Speaker 1: and was later ordained as a bishop by Stanley. Anybody
Speaker 1: can be a bishop, huh. Reverend Martin and Ferry were friends,
Speaker 1: and Martin was instrumental in affecting Fairy's official role in
Speaker 1: the church. According to the Reverend Stanley, Martin performed the
Speaker 1: necessary ceremonies in making Fairry a subdeacon, deacon and priest
Speaker 1: of the church. It was Martin who requested Reverend Stanley
Speaker 1: to consecrate Fairry as a bishop. Upon being requested to
Speaker 1: perform the ceremony of consecrating Faerry as a bishop, Reverend
Speaker 1: Stanley made some inquiries concerning the character and reputation of Fairry,
Speaker 1: and learned from a mister George Wallace, whom Stanley had
Speaker 1: known through the veterans of foreign Wars, that Ferry had
Speaker 1: been accused of unnatural sexual behavior and had been fired
Speaker 1: by Eastern airlines. This aroused the suspicion of Stanley, and
Speaker 1: he called the superintendent name not recalled, but thought to
Speaker 1: be of German descent. Stanley tried while I was talking
Speaker 1: to him to obtain the name of the person from
Speaker 1: Louisville office of Eastern Airlines, but to no avail of
Speaker 1: the Eastern Airline offices in Louisville, and confirmed the report
Speaker 1: that Ferry had been discharged as an employee. Wallace's address
Speaker 1: was not available from Stanley. Ferry, accompanied by Martin, arrived
Speaker 1: in Louisville No. Number thirtieth sixty one for the purpose
Speaker 1: of being consecrated as a bishop of the church. Stanley
Speaker 1: indicated his unwillingness to comply and voice disapproval of the
Speaker 1: personal behavior of Fairy as reported to him. Stanley told
Speaker 1: Ferry they intended to excommunicate him from the church for
Speaker 1: reasons of becoming of being unbecoming the church officials. This
Speaker 1: aroused anger on the part of both Ferry and Martin.
Speaker 1: Stanley said that when Ferry arrived in Louisville that he
Speaker 1: appeared to be groomed rather particularly especially since he was
Speaker 1: wearing a wig that was something on with Scotch and
Speaker 1: it was fastened on with Scotch brand tape. Stanley also
Speaker 1: said that Martin had been keen to use devious methods,
Speaker 1: and when queried by me as to this, Stanley said
Speaker 1: that he Martin at times had carried a gun. Martin
Speaker 1: is reported to have been an investigator for mister Ooh,
Speaker 1: Jack Jermillion. Is that the right name? Jack Germillion is
Speaker 1: what it looks like, j R. M I L. L
Speaker 1: I A. An Attorney of General of Louisiana. That name
Speaker 1: you're probably looked into, all right, and that it says continue,
Speaker 1: but then it cuts off. Let me see if it
Speaker 1: picks up again here. No, it doesn't, so we will
Speaker 1: call it here for today. This is a good place
Speaker 1: to leave off, and we will pick back up, continuing
Speaker 1: on with his Eastern Islands investigation. It's a David Ferry.
Speaker 1: There's one document in here. I'm hoping we'll get to
Speaker 1: I'm hoping it's still in here. We got about ano
Speaker 1: one hundred and seventy five pages to go. But there's
Speaker 1: one document in here that I read years ago and
Speaker 1: I've been looking for ever since. And when we get
Speaker 1: to it, I will definitely know it and I will
Speaker 1: let you know what it is. Then. Thanks guys for
Speaker 1: tuning in. As always, pick up my books if you
Speaker 1: haven't yet. That's how I pay the rent. And so
Speaker 1: that's about it. I will see you guys next time.
Speaker 1: Thank you,