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Speaker 1: Well, hello and welcome. Thanks for getting your pot on,

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Thanks for telling a friend. How are we feeling? Today?

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Started out gloomy the day we're taping this, and then

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the sun came out, so hopefully that's an omen for

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good things to come. Yesterday I asked Greg Connor to

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join me to talk Buffalo bills. And one of the reasons, Greg,

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was you popped in my mind a neighbor had I

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hope you don't mind me saying this had a maserati delivered,

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and I go it, yeah all every time I see you.

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Anytime I see a maserati, I always sing Joe Walsh's

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song Life's Been Good my Maserati does one eighty five. Yeah.

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But before we get into the bill stuff, I hope

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I'm not getting too deep or even too personal on

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some things. But I know you had another loss in

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your family recently. My condolences for that, and I know

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that you lost your dad years ago. I got to

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tell you, man, I've been having a day today, you

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know what I'm saying, Like, I've been having a fucking day,

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like just sad, and I can't figure out why. And

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I go, yeah, I think I know why. It's just

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and the only reason I bring it up. I think

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it's something that's never really talked about, especially by dudes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I don't know Dad.

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Speaker 4: My dad's identical twin.

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Speaker 3: My uncle George passed away a couple of weeks ago,

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and we just had the service this past weekend. My

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dad passed away twenty five years ago. And you know,

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I think I had mentioned to you one time after

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your dad had passed away, that it doesn't go away.

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Life fills into gaps, but there are moments and there

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are times where it just reaches up and just kind

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of kind of smashed a little bit. And for me,

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for me, those times are often when I would turn

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to him, when I would reach out to him, they

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you know, whether it be something with my kids that

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you know, I would look for guidance for, if it

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was something that work, I just wanted to bitch to somebody.

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Speaker 4: About that, Nobody would you know that I.

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Speaker 3: Could do that and you would understand where I was

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coming from, and you know, just even dealing with some

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family things, it's, uh, those are the days for me,

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in the moments where you know, you just get reminded

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that he's not a phone.

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Speaker 1: Call away, right, And I think for me it's the uh,

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you know, even the academic stuff going back to school

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now and I had to write a reflection paper and

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I'm like, I probably would have sent it to him

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to get his opinion, although he would take over, which

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is always it would always annoy me. But at the

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same time, it was like I would bounce those ideas

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or those because you know, a lot of what I'm

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doing is actually philosophically based. I mean, if you go

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through you know, the mental health counseling stuff, there's a

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lot of Nietzschee and others. And I was like, God,

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I just wish he was there, and it just it Boy,

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was like a little I don't want to say a

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gut punch today, but a little bit of a ooh

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and uh uh, Yeah, it just was weird. And I thought, man,

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there's not many people that I think ever talk about that.

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And I don't know how you. I don't know how

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you deal with it. I think the best way to

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deal with anything as I get older is to just

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recognize the emotion that's there, sit with it, let it pass,

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don't react to it, don't overreact to it, you know,

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no matter what it is. And uh and and you know,

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allow yourself to maybe be sad or enjoy the memory,

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you know, or try to enjoy the memory.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And I always try to keep my dad in the

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top of my mind and talk about him all the time.

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It helps me, and it keeps him close and it

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keeps the memory going.

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Speaker 4: And but yeah, it's it's good to recognize it, you know,

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and and not to and to remember I am who

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I am today because of him. Yeah, and a lot

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of other people I've unfortunately lost.

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Speaker 3: Recently, Jennifer lost her grandmother who was one hundred years old,

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like three weeks ago. She was just a treasure She

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was just this wonderful, sweet kind person, and you know,

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I'll always remember that and I try to be that

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way myself because of her.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it is interesting when you see people who had

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such an impact and you go, boy, that was the

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way to live. That's the way to do it. That's

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the way. All right, Onto the uh, the subject at hand,

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the Buffalo Bills. I mean, there were people saying that

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they thought they would drop this game as well, and

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I was not one of them. I happened to be

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at some online yesterday's seeing some people can't saying that

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it was a second there a second half team, don't

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worry about this, someone asking if they should bet. I'm

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thinking they just did not look like they had their

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shit together.

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Speaker 3: So as we talk about mental health. When I woke

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up this morning, Bill, yeah, I had to say to myself,

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I'm gonna have a good day.

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Speaker 4: Okay, today is going to be a good day.

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Speaker 3: I had to say it, and I said it to

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myself like five times until I convinced myself that I

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was going to have a good day because last night's

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performance put me in a really bad mood.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I I greg. I did not watch the fourth

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quarter and I did not read purposely anything today because

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I knew I'd be talking to you, and I knew

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you would have some really great, insightful thoughts on this,

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and I didn't want them to be I don't know,

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I wanted to come at it fresh, but I I

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just even feel like, offensively, what's going on with Coleman.

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He can't get separation. The guy had It's like, come.

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Speaker 3: On, well for me this game that I thought the

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Bills were going to win this game. I thought that

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the Patriots game was a scare for me before they

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played the game, just because of their the Patriots and

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Rabel's got a familiarity with the Bills.

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Speaker 4: And he's beating the Bills with the with the with Tennessee.

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Speaker 3: This game, I thought, I knew, I knew the Falcons

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had a good defense. I knew the Falcons rushed the

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quarterback and blitzed, you know, for the defense going into

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this game than than than any other team in the NFL.

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I thought that Joe Brady was going to be better

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prepared with an offensive scheme and play calling that the

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Bills wouldn't have been on their heels and then forced

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Josh to make the decisions that he made.

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Speaker 1: Where do we see things or like in your opinion

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from here? And I know you you sort of mentioned this,

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but it dropped out because do they have a is

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there a buy next week?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? This week?

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Speaker 3: Their next game is in Carolina on October twenty six?

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Speaker 4: Okay, so next week they have a.

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Speaker 3: Bye and then they travel to Carolina to play on Sunday,

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October twenty six.

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Speaker 4: Which is Buffalo South.

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Speaker 3: Yes, you know, spending some time down there in North Carolina.

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This is the Bill's Panthers game is gonna is the

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hottest ticket in North Carolina in twenty twenty five, including

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when UNC played Duke and basketball. It's it's all the rade.

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And now the Carolina Panthers are playing playing.

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Speaker 1: Decent football, but that does seem like a winnable game

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for them. And then it's on to Kansas City. Correct

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where Kansas City comes to Buffalo?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you know, on all accounts, you would

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have you would have thought that this would be a

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nice warm up game for Buffalo. The Panthers game would

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be a nice warm up game before Kansas City came

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into town. You know, we might have one lost underneath

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our belt, having two now.

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Speaker 4: Now going to Carolina.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to say it's a must win because

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it's early in the season, but it's a must win.

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Offense has to get some mojo. The only scored fourteen points.

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I mean, you're not gonna win games in the NFL

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scoring fourteen points. We turn the ball over three times

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against the Patriots, You're not gonna win. Turn the ball

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over three times. We turn the ball over twice last night,

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and we only score fourteen points. There's not a chance

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you can't even beat the Jets doing that.

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Speaker 1: Ah maybe, Oh no, So I mean your gut feeling

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on the rest of the season, things that are correctable.

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A bye week kind of coming at the right time,

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possibly coming off a loss, maybe it helps you regroup.

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I do worry about I do worry about kind of

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their the head, you know what I mean, the mental

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space that they're in. Just that, h here we go again.

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And I don't know with professional act leads, and certainly

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they have you know, sports psychologists and things to get

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them through all that. But it's something where I feel

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like this break is a maybe coming at the right time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you're only as good as your last performance.

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into going into a break with positivity, positive thoughts, positive

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positive outcomes.

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Speaker 4: You know, it does give.

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Speaker 3: I think the positive of this is giving the team

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some adversity and some humility, which if you build on

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it and you grow from it, you're going to be better.

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Speaker 4: You're going to be stronger, you know.

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Speaker 3: I think every manager, every coaches, the ones that are

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the best, take the talent they have, and they put

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the talent in the best positions possible to be successful.

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I have not necessarily seen that with respect to the

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offense as much this year as I had in years past.

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Speaker 4: Now can you say, how can.

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Speaker 3: Joe Brady, you know, forget so much or become so

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dumb from one year to the next. And a lot

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of it, truly is the talent that he has around him.

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Is he not calling the plays? Is he not putting

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the people that are their talent wise in the right positions?

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Because if that's the case, then that's a Brandon Dean

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and a McDermott decision making thing in terms of assessment

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of talent.

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Speaker 1: How many of us, though, have been in that situation

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where you start to question things in your own head

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and you do you underperform right, because you're now almost

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blocking instead of just being in the zone or in

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the flow. And that's a problem. And I would think

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for Josh it's it's got to be a huge head game.

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Right now. The guy is in more commercials than I've

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ever seen. It's got to be a head game for

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him where the popularity has risen that now it isn't

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just a team expectation, it's a Josh expectation. And that's

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got to be really hard because I don't think that

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that's necessarily like an ego thing where you would go, ah,

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he's got a huge ego. He's like, no, this is

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like a there's a great there's a huge expectation, not

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of just this team, but of me to deliver this team.

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Speaker 4: We're one hundred percent. But that jobs, I mean, that's

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Speaker 3: That's what's so redeeming and endearing about him is that

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he actually cares. I mean, I right now, he's beating

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himself up. He's beat himself up because he feels like

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he let his team down. But this is the type

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of guy, as a person of who he is.

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Speaker 4: He's feeling away because he feels like he's let me down.

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He feels like he's let you down. He feels like

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he's let the entire community of.

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Speaker 3: The Bill's Mafia down. And that is what, unfortunately, begins

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to weigh on you. And then you start thinking, and

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then bad thoughts get in your head, and then bad

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things happen. Look, the power of your mind is so

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critical and so important in terms of outcomes.

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Speaker 4: If you think positive.

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Speaker 3: League and you and and and golf is one of

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these things. You don't think about the pond that's in

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front of you. You think about you just think about

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the green. The more you think about the bond the pond,

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the more you're going in the pod. Yeah, this team's

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tradition has been about getting so close and failing.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 3: One of the reason the why I think people are

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so critical of Nick Dermott is because he's gotten close

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and he's failed. Look, Bill, we spent twenty years in

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utter chaos of mediocrity that we couldn't even make the playoffs, right,

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and now we make the playoffs.

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Speaker 4: Now expectations changed, Yes, you know, there you go.

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Speaker 3: I mean, look, Mike Tomlin has not had a losing

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record in what twenty years or fifteen years or something

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with the Steelers and now look at him.

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Speaker 4: Now they're four and one right.

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Speaker 3: You know it's like I don't think Mike tom I

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think Mike Tomlin's.

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Speaker 4: And he's won a Super Bowl. Yes, you know.

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Speaker 3: So for McDermott to answer your question after a long diatroc,

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I still confidence in McDermott. I still think McDermott is

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a good coach. I do think McDermott will win a

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Super Bowl. I just hope he does it with the

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Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 1: I hope he does it with the Buffalo Bills as well.

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I think that well said Greg always well said, Hey,

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you bring the dog.

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Speaker 2: To the office.

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Speaker 1: Look at the dog back there. Oh both of them.

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Speaker 4: Wow, they didn't even make a peep and I got octs.

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Speaker 1: That's lovely. All right, Well, thank you Greg for your time.

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I appreciate it. And uh go Bills.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, sorry, sorry about any drops now we'll make it

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working there.

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Speaker 4: I apologize for that.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, it's always great to talk to you can't

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wait to uh to get back in the studio and

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see it. And by the way, your intro, the intro

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into your podcast is my favorite of all time.

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Speaker 4: And because I actually live my life, try to live

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my life, that way. Yeah, you know, life gives you

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a lemon, throw a little back in it and uh

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and that's a good day.

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Speaker 1: That's right, exactly, that is exactly right. And Kevin wrote

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that one actually, so God hats off to Kevin.

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Speaker 4: I'm glad he finally wrote something that was pretty good.

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Speaker 1: All right for Greg Connors, for the dogs wait.

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Speaker 4: Oxen who Oxen GG?

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Speaker 1: For oxen GG. I'm Bill Moran. Thank you Greg. We'll

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see you tomorrow.

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