Speaker 1: Karen. Yes, quick question. If you could totally clear out
Speaker 1: all the emotional, physical, and mental clutter in your body
Speaker 1: and mind like poof, would you do it?
Speaker 2: I don't know, because I think there would be nothing
Speaker 2: left of me.
Speaker 3: Have some eyes and hair?
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Speaker 1: blending decades of corporate expertise with a deep dive into
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Speaker 1: Intelligence with the remarkable Christine Jeneves. Welcome to the show. Christine,
Speaker 1: who I just butchered your last name?
Speaker 3: You actually did fantastic? All right, relatives would be really pleaded.
Speaker 1: Well, then, please please be sure to send this episode
Speaker 1: to them, because this is the first for me and
Speaker 1: I got to celebrated one way or another.
Speaker 3: It's awesome. I'm really excited to be here with both
Speaker 3: of you.
Speaker 1: We're excited to I'm particularly excited because, as I was
Speaker 1: doing some research into this episode, your method is super
Speaker 1: inspiring and I am Jones in at the bit to
Speaker 1: get into it. I don't think that's the right we're
Speaker 1: trying to.
Speaker 2: Es because you're officially getting kicked out of gen X.
Speaker 1: No, see it was I ever. I see. The thing
Speaker 1: is that I'm Jones and because I haven't had it,
Speaker 1: and I'm chomping in the bit because I want it,
Speaker 1: So I'm kind of mixed the two. It's by design.
Speaker 1: Everything I do is by designing, except for that stuff
Speaker 1: I said in the fourth grade. Okay, so tell us
Speaker 1: about your method, because I just want to get right
Speaker 1: into it.
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, absolutely, I'd be happy to well. The
Speaker 3: method it self functions on the science of bio energetics,
Speaker 3: so that's been around since the nineteen fifties, and essentially
Speaker 3: what it says is that when you physically don't feel well,
Speaker 3: typically mentaling emotionally not doing well, and the converse is true, right,
Speaker 3: mentaling emotionally you're not doing well physically, there's usually something
Speaker 3: that's off. And if you think about when you go
Speaker 3: to the doctor, right, the doctor's always asking me, so,
Speaker 3: what else is going on in your life?
Speaker 4: Right? Is it?
Speaker 3: You know, what's going on at home, what's going on
Speaker 3: with the kids.
Speaker 4: What's going on at work, and it's all this other stuff,
Speaker 4: the mental and emotional stuff that we tend to overlook
Speaker 4: when something physically goes wrong in the body. And essentially everything,
Speaker 4: everybody and everything is energy. So I know you were
Speaker 4: talking about, you know, being a teenager, but if we
Speaker 4: rewind it a little bit more.
Speaker 3: Back to fourth grade, everybody and everything is energy, right.
Speaker 4: We're protons, neutrons, electrons, We've all got these energetic fields
Speaker 4: and we all vibrate, right, We're all you know, some
Speaker 4: of we can see each other through the power of
Speaker 4: the Internet at the moment, but I can't see the
Speaker 4: waves actually coming to you. I can see you, So
Speaker 4: it's kind of like the radio too. We could hear
Speaker 4: the waves, but we can't actually see them. So I
Speaker 4: think people are getting more of a sense of how
Speaker 4: quorantum field works and energy works.
Speaker 3: But essentially, when energy is not in motion, particularly in
Speaker 3: the body, so emotions are energy in motion. When they
Speaker 3: are not in motion, when they get stuck in the
Speaker 3: body and they pool, they cause disease within the body,
Speaker 3: or dysfunction in the body, or a dissonance in the frequency.
Speaker 3: And so then you go to the doctor because something
Speaker 3: physically has gone wrong.
Speaker 4: So in essence, what I'm doing is getting to the
Speaker 4: root cause of what illness is, which is really a
Speaker 4: disruption and frequency.
Speaker 1: What I like about the most is what I mentioned
Speaker 1: in the in the introduction is that you don't have
Speaker 1: to go down that memoryly a lot of times you
Speaker 1: go to cognitive behavioral therapy or something like that, where
Speaker 1: you actually have to relive these strong physical, emotional traumas
Speaker 1: that have shaped you. Now, from my understanding, this is
Speaker 1: something that we don't have to go through with your method.
Speaker 1: Is that not right?
Speaker 4: No, that's absolutely right. You don't have Yes, you've nailed it.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So with therapy, right in order to get to the emotion,
Speaker 4: they have to put you back in that scenario and
Speaker 4: you have to relive it, and it's very painful. So
Speaker 4: my method, essentially I have a book of charts and
Speaker 4: a pendulum and getting into it what I call a
Speaker 4: sacred space, I'm able to discern what is stuck. So
Speaker 4: whether that's a selfla main belief, whether that's negative energies,
Speaker 4: emotions and thoughts, whether that's old trauma Okay, I'm resolved trauma,
Speaker 4: whether that's repetitive pattern, whatever that is, I'm able to
Speaker 4: assess what it is and help it come up from
Speaker 4: the subcrutch mind to the conscious mind to be released,
Speaker 4: because a lot of times people are like, I don't
Speaker 4: know what's wrong, and they don't know that they're carrying
Speaker 4: around like some hurt when they.
Speaker 3: Were left at the grocery store at each five.
Speaker 4: That's affecting the way their managers are company today, you know,
Speaker 4: in terms of feeling abandoned. So it's all of those
Speaker 4: things that are stuck that I'm able to bring up
Speaker 4: for you know, focus and release. So do some people cry, yeah, sure,
Speaker 4: sometimes there's an emotional release. Most of the time people
Speaker 4: are like, how the heck did you know that? In
Speaker 4: a out?
Speaker 3: You know, And it's not me.
Speaker 4: It's really the information that's coming through me and being revealed,
Speaker 4: you know, using the charts.
Speaker 3: And that's the coolest thing.
Speaker 4: Like working with doctors, right, getting patients to be compliant
Speaker 4: is really difficult.
Speaker 3: I'm like, all you got to do is show up
Speaker 3: to a zoom session.
Speaker 4: That's it. You show up, it's happening. You get to receive.
Speaker 4: So I think that's probably the coolest thing about the method. Wow,
Speaker 4: I have a it's similar bit different, So I have
Speaker 4: an aunt. She actually passed away years ago, but she studied,
Speaker 4: I want to say about thirty years ago. She went
Speaker 4: to Germany and studied bio energetic medicine and she would
Speaker 4: do treatments on people where they would hold up like
Speaker 4: on a little vial of something, and she would test
Speaker 4: if they could pull their fingers apart or different balance
Speaker 4: things and just kind of seeing what was needed. So
Speaker 4: for something like what she was doing, she was getting results.
Speaker 4: I would now, listening to you, I'm assuming that those
Speaker 4: results would be somewhat temporary, because what if it's an
Speaker 4: emotional trauma that's causing you to be lacking this, then
Speaker 4: you can supplement it, I guess somehow. And then but
Speaker 4: you're not ever fixing the emotional trauma, right.
Speaker 3: Right, You're not actually releasing it.
Speaker 4: You're not bringing it up and acknowledging it and allowing
Speaker 4: it to shift.
Speaker 3: Right Because ourselves, like our whole our physical body is
Speaker 3: really our subchronocious mind in essence, right.
Speaker 4: We only use five percent of our actual mind for
Speaker 4: all that strategizing, thinking, calculating, all this stuff we do
Speaker 4: up here all day. And if you look at how
Speaker 4: powerful our hearts are, there's actually a six a wide
Speaker 4: magnetic field around our hearts. So while everything starts according
Speaker 4: to the Heart Matt Institute, Yeah, it's a six foot
Speaker 4: wide energy field. Think about that for a second. Wow,
Speaker 4: we aren't.
Speaker 3: Allowed to be six within six feet of someone anyway.
Speaker 1: Okay, compare no boundaries.
Speaker 3: They had the six foot limit to.
Speaker 1: The hearts hearts.
Speaker 4: But when you think about it, so when you talk
Speaker 4: about you know, how the quantum field works or electromagnet
Speaker 4: magnetic field, the electric spark is the idea, the intention,
Speaker 4: what starts in the mind, right, Everything starts in eternal
Speaker 4: first before it's created externally. So that's where the the
Speaker 4: initial electric spark is what magnetizes things to you. What
Speaker 4: brings things into you is feeling emotion, you know. And
Speaker 4: if we think about it, you mentioned gen xers. I
Speaker 4: happen to be one of them.
Speaker 3: We were taught all through all through work world. Right,
Speaker 3: there's no crying in baseball.
Speaker 5: You are not allowed to be emotional at work, right,
Speaker 5: But it's none of that stuff, and it was all
Speaker 5: about emotion and in essence, what that does is it
Speaker 5: causes disease within the body.
Speaker 3: I personally had a cervical cancer scare at one point
Speaker 3: where I had gone into the doctor's office and I
Speaker 3: was told, Hey, we did a biopsy in office. You
Speaker 3: have too many, you know, funky cells.
Speaker 4: We're gonna have to send you to the hospital for
Speaker 4: a conical biopsy where they put you under and they're
Speaker 4: going to take out more of your cervix. And I
Speaker 4: was like, wait a minute, cancer, and they're like yeah.
Speaker 4: I was like, oh gosh, what am I gonna do now?
Speaker 4: So I used my method on myself and I called
Speaker 4: every freaking healer I knew.
Speaker 3: Someone's like, we're not pulling around with this.
Speaker 4: And then I've had another girlfriend who was a healer
Speaker 4: and an energy worker who said to me, Hey, by
Speaker 4: the time you go to have the conical biopsy, it's
Speaker 4: going to be gone. And so I held that intention,
Speaker 4: and I saw myself just being healthy and this being
Speaker 4: just routine and matter of fact, and I really focused
Speaker 4: on changing my internal condition. I went through the chronicle
Speaker 4: biopsy and I'll never forget the look on the obgu
Speaker 4: I N's face because she came out and she was like,
Speaker 4: maybe we cut it all out.
Speaker 3: It's gone. Don't get the fuck. That's where I go, Yeah,
Speaker 3: maybe we did.
Speaker 4: Why that's relevant okay when I tell you it's all emotion, Okay.
Speaker 4: At the the cervix is really the womb, right like
Speaker 4: the heart of womanhood. Okay, so or the second chakra area,
Speaker 4: and that's where we birth ideas we birth babies.
Speaker 3: And my whole career, corporate career.
Speaker 4: It was all about wanting to be a man, working
Speaker 4: twice as hard as a man. I have to do better,
Speaker 4: I have to do more. I got to make more money.
Speaker 4: I would even make fun of being a woman. I had,
Speaker 4: you know, I made sure I use very male language.
Speaker 4: You know, God gave me boys. There was a reason,
Speaker 4: you know I played sports, right, you know, it was
Speaker 4: all man men, men, and I really saw women as
Speaker 4: weak and so during that period I really focused on
Speaker 4: you know, one he told me I needed to embrace
Speaker 4: my femininity, and I was like, okay, what does that mean?
Speaker 3: You know, you're divine? Feminine? I was like, okay, what
Speaker 3: am I supposed to wear my hair long? Am I
Speaker 3: supposed to get dresses? Should I dance? What does that mean?
Speaker 4: And it really men, you know, looking at powerful women
Speaker 4: and like goddesses like Segment or you know Colie Mole,
Speaker 4: like these powerful deities right that were women as opposed
Speaker 4: to looking at you know, crying as being weak. And
Speaker 4: so it was really doing all that feminine work that
Speaker 4: I believe restored everything within my body. Now, could we
Speaker 4: have cut it all out? Yeah, I'm sure we cut
Speaker 4: some of it out. But everybody has cancer cells. It's
Speaker 4: a matter of whether they're going to bloom in somebody's
Speaker 4: body or not. So I do believe you.
Speaker 3: Can change your internal condition.
Speaker 4: But that's how powerful our emotions are. So that's that,
Speaker 4: you know. Then there's a simple example of we have
Speaker 4: a cold. It's usually mind confusion, right, Like you can
Speaker 4: go from one end to the other to know what
Speaker 4: the root cause, underlaring what's going physically wrong in the body.
Speaker 3: So to me, by the time it gets to the body,
Speaker 3: that's like your physical physical barometer lending you know something's wrong.
Speaker 3: I got to do something about it.
Speaker 1: Okay, So you use your pendulum and you figure out
Speaker 1: what's wrong. And then what.
Speaker 3: I'm going to have to do a session for you too?
Speaker 1: Well I mean.
Speaker 4: That, yes, so in essence, as the things come up,
Speaker 4: so the person can acknowledge that basically, and then I
Speaker 4: asked to have it shifted, right, because once energy is created,
Speaker 4: all you can do is transmuted into something else. It
Speaker 4: doesn't just disappear, right, So I ask it to come
Speaker 4: up and out of the body and sent back for
Speaker 4: transmutation into you know, love and light or you know,
Speaker 4: back to the underworld. Should it should it need to
Speaker 4: go there to restore the balance between dark and light.
Speaker 3: It depends on what it is.
Speaker 2: So then what happens to the person that they've had
Speaker 2: these experiences is to cause this trauma and this negative
Speaker 2: energy which has affected them physically. So you you have
Speaker 2: your session with them, but they still have those memories.
Speaker 2: Do they just not rea like if they if they
Speaker 2: revisit those memories, do they just not react.
Speaker 3: To them the same way? Or how?
Speaker 5: What?
Speaker 3: What change happens? That's a great question.
Speaker 1: You know, She's always got all the good questions always.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I mean in essence, you know, you what
Speaker 4: during the session, people sometimes you know, have an experience
Speaker 4: to where maybe they feel lighter after the session, or
Speaker 4: they feel like more at peace. You know, some people
Speaker 4: might feel tired, other people might get energized. Everybody reacts
Speaker 4: to energy differently, and the best way for me to
Speaker 4: describe it is it's like an energetic massage. Or you know,
Speaker 4: you go to the chiropractor for a biomechanical adjustment, is
Speaker 4: a bio energetic adjustment, so it's kind of similar. And
Speaker 4: then what I ask is that people pay attention to
Speaker 4: how they feel over the course of the next few
Speaker 4: days and coming weeks and notice, oh, that doesn't trigger
Speaker 4: me the way it used to, or oh I don't
Speaker 4: feel exactly the same way now that this happened.
Speaker 3: I guess.
Speaker 4: You know, For example, I work with a lot of
Speaker 4: healthcare providers, so that's what's really cool, right working with
Speaker 4: functional medicine mds, nurse practitioners. I'm really really pleased that
Speaker 4: I get to do this holistic healing with them.
Speaker 1: I'm going to need a list of doctors that you
Speaker 1: work with, because I'm looking for them right now.
Speaker 3: And okay, well we'll just figure out what area you're
Speaker 3: in and definitely I will hook you up. But you know,
Speaker 3: in terms of I remember I.
Speaker 4: Worked with one and typically before I work with a doctor,
Speaker 4: I do a session for them, so they have a
Speaker 4: personal experience, right and a comfort level recommending me to
Speaker 4: their patient.
Speaker 3: So I remember this one doctor. I did a session
Speaker 3: for her and she was really struggling because her husband
Speaker 3: was kind of like nettling in her business. He was
Speaker 3: being helpful, he thought, but it was really causing her stress.
Speaker 3: He really wanted her to move her practice. And then
Speaker 3: she was like, well, should I have a second one?
Speaker 3: Or should I even be here anyway?
Speaker 4: And so starting to make her question and so she
Speaker 4: wasn't feeling really great, and so I did a session
Speaker 4: and we figured out what was going on. And literally
Speaker 4: the next day she sent me a text and she's like,
Speaker 4: oh my god, I don't know what you did, but
Speaker 4: my husband is acting completely differently, and she's like, how
Speaker 4: did you do that with me? And he's acting different?
Speaker 1: That's what I want to know, because that's a little weird,
Speaker 1: that's a little scary.
Speaker 4: So if you think about it, we're all energetic beings.
Speaker 4: Right when you shift, somebody else is going to react
Speaker 4: to you differently, and sometimes what we hold right as
Speaker 4: energetic beings, especially if you're a couple or you're in
Speaker 4: close proximity with people, you pick up their stuff too, Right,
Speaker 4: We're all like these magnetic energetic beings. So I was
Speaker 4: not only clearing stuff for her, but I was clearing
Speaker 4: stuff that she was holding for him, and so that
Speaker 4: I have chills.
Speaker 3: So when that occurs, right, Sorry, that's my truth, you know.
Speaker 3: I was like, well, but anyway, when that occurs, it's
Speaker 3: really really cool.
Speaker 4: I've also worked with a doctor and his wife to
Speaker 4: where separately, like I work with each of them and
Speaker 4: then I keep the sessions. I'm like, if you too
Speaker 4: want to talk about your sessions, you can, unless I'm
Speaker 4: doing a joint session. I keep that, you know, separation.
Speaker 4: But they had noticed how their marriage changed by me
Speaker 4: working on one and working on the other, and then
Speaker 4: I worked on them as a couple together, and how
Speaker 4: they were considering separating and then came back together because
Speaker 4: we were able to shift what was stuck between the
Speaker 4: two of them that they couldn't necessarily verbalize, or you know,
Speaker 4: baggage they brought into the relationship they didn't know was
Speaker 4: still affecting more relationship.
Speaker 1: So then that song is right that when you shift,
Speaker 1: I shift, we shift. Oh wait, that's when I dip
Speaker 1: you dip. We didn't.
Speaker 3: I don't know, that's not.
Speaker 5: So.
Speaker 2: I wonder if something like that, Yes, sure, I wonder
Speaker 2: how much also could be the fact that when you
Speaker 2: change someone's the way they perceive things, that they feel
Speaker 2: about things maybe the husband is acting the same way,
Speaker 2: but they're so changed that they interpret it differently.
Speaker 1: It's a good question too.
Speaker 3: Well, that's very true.
Speaker 4: It could be right if we were shifting a self
Speaker 4: limiting belief like I'm invisible. Okay, if you ever felt
Speaker 4: invisible in the relationships, He's not.
Speaker 3: In the relationship, just in life.
Speaker 4: Like you know, your last on the list, or you
Speaker 4: don't even make the list, you know, in terms of priority.
Speaker 3: So yes, it's possible if we shipped a belief like that.
Speaker 4: Could their perception change. Absolutely, But in addition to that,
Speaker 4: there are multiple things that come up in a session
Speaker 4: that we're moving up and out, so for me to
Speaker 4: be able to pinpoint which specific thing is difficult. But
Speaker 4: that's a great perception. It absolutely could be that way
Speaker 4: as well.
Speaker 1: We need to take a quick pause, but would be
Speaker 1: right back right after these messages and now back to
Speaker 1: the skeptic metaphysicians. Is it permanent? The changes Karen mentioned
Speaker 1: the bioengineering stuff, bioengineering, bio.
Speaker 3: Energy, bio energetic medicine, that's what I say.
Speaker 1: She mentioned that was potentially temporary because the emotional content
Speaker 1: behind it wasn't released. Is this the sole intelligence method
Speaker 1: does that help you to actual release since you can
Speaker 1: put it behind you for good, or is this something
Speaker 1: you have to do one session now and then another
Speaker 1: session in a month now, another session six months from
Speaker 1: now or something like that.
Speaker 3: It depends.
Speaker 4: Do you have issues or subscriptions, you know, just in
Speaker 4: terms of how much work, And it's definitely that's.
Speaker 1: A good way to put it. I might subscribe to
Speaker 1: a whole lot of things. Actually thinking about it.
Speaker 3: Well, you have to understand too, Like we're onions, right,
Speaker 3: there's lots of layers and depending on your faith and
Speaker 3: what you believe you know, and how you've perceived time. Okay,
Speaker 3: I'll get into the time discussion. I really believe it's spatial,
Speaker 3: not linear.
Speaker 4: But well, okay, but if we talk about past lives
Speaker 4: versus present life, versus peachure life, or concurrent lives or
Speaker 4: alternate dimensions or all kinds of craziness. Right, there's things
Speaker 4: things simultaneously and so there's a lot of layers. So
Speaker 4: could we get out of one and maybe it's still
Speaker 4: in another shore. I once worked with a nurse who
Speaker 4: was she had shingles, okay, so super super painful. She
Speaker 4: was out of work for almost a year, by the
Speaker 4: time her physician, Yeah, her physician referred her to me.
Speaker 4: And she had tried everything, I mean, e ketamine, all
Speaker 4: kinds of drugs, mushrooms, she's tried BTSD therapy, tapping, i
Speaker 4: mean everything, and until we worked together, we weren't able
Speaker 4: to get things to shift. Now, I worked with her
Speaker 4: over a series of months because what we uncovered wasn't
Speaker 4: just the root cause of the shingles, but it was
Speaker 4: also causing her to have insomnia and not be able
Speaker 4: to work and to pick up a lot of lower
Speaker 4: force energy. And as a nurse, like working around sick
Speaker 4: people all the time, she had to learn ways to
Speaker 4: kind of protect her energy so she wouldn't keep you know,
Speaker 4: having these things repeat in essence.
Speaker 3: So the answer to your question, honestly is depends. Right.
Speaker 4: You could look at this like, I do this for
Speaker 4: myself every week, you know, because I want to keep
Speaker 4: my energy clear, and I'm working with a lot of
Speaker 4: people and I'm moving a lot of energy.
Speaker 3: But it's kind of like a massage. How often do
Speaker 3: you get one of those?
Speaker 4: Right, I'll do one, you know, if it's a good month,
Speaker 4: it's every other week. You know, it's a bad month,
Speaker 4: maybe once a month or once every other month.
Speaker 3: But in essence, right, we're energetic beings, so you're always
Speaker 3: picking up stuff. We're always having things shift and change.
Speaker 3: So is it something that's just you know, Okay, I'm done.
Speaker 3: You know, I really believe the process of being human
Speaker 3: is we're never really done, right. We're all working towards
Speaker 3: embodying our higher selves and moving into those higher states
Speaker 3: of consciousness, but we're still these spiritual beings having a
Speaker 3: human experience, and we're going to pick up stuff along
Speaker 3: the way. So do I think some of the deep
Speaker 3: trauma can be healed? Absolutely? Like I've seen that. You know.
Speaker 4: I had another physician who had foot pain and she
Speaker 4: didn't describe the depth of the foot pain to me recently,
Speaker 4: and I fixed it a while ago.
Speaker 3: I got to see her.
Speaker 4: I just had my book come out about two weeks ago,
Speaker 4: and she was at a book signing and I go, hey,
Speaker 4: you're in the book.
Speaker 3: Now. When I put people in the book, I just
Speaker 3: write about their case studies.
Speaker 4: I don't actually say who is because you know they'll
Speaker 4: know it was them, right, Okay, So I said, hey,
Speaker 4: you're in the book, and she goes really, And I
Speaker 4: go yeah, she goes. So she went up to her room.
Speaker 4: She flipped the book open and she flipped right to
Speaker 4: her page. I'm like, come on, you can't make this up. Wow, okay,
Speaker 4: And then she came down and she said to me,
Speaker 4: she gave a testimony like in front of a group,
Speaker 4: because I did a group session and meditation, group, sole
Speaker 4: intelligence session, and she goes.
Speaker 3: What I didn't tell.
Speaker 4: Christine at the time was that my foot paint was
Speaker 4: so bad. I was crawling to the bathroom. This is
Speaker 4: a physician, a medical doctor that can't fix their own foot.
Speaker 4: And what we discovered and what I had come up,
Speaker 4: you know, during the session, was she wasn't able to
Speaker 4: move forward, hence the foot issue, because she had these
Speaker 4: contractors that refused to fix something in her home properly.
Speaker 4: There was a big lawsuit. She didn't feel like her
Speaker 4: lawyer was representing her. Well, nothing was moving forward. She
Speaker 4: was stuck and she couldn't, you know, stand up for
Speaker 4: herself literally and couldn't move forward. And so we cleared
Speaker 4: all of that. The next morning she walked to her office.
Speaker 3: She couldn't. She was like, what, I have chills again.
Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't. So it's just interesting when you see.
Speaker 4: You know how the to me once it gets to
Speaker 4: the physical, that's really like, hey, knucklehead, you got to
Speaker 4: do something about it, you know. And we usually think
Speaker 4: that's the first sign something's wrong. Right, We're like, oh, yeah, I.
Speaker 3: Have to go to the doctor. We got to figure
Speaker 3: out why my stomach is always upset.
Speaker 1: There's only one of you, right, so this is going
Speaker 1: to get out and you're can have a billion gazillion
Speaker 1: people knocking on your door trying to get this thing
Speaker 1: done for them. So you actually have taken it a
Speaker 1: step further, right, you actually teach people how to do this,
Speaker 1: Is that right?
Speaker 4: Absolutely? Yeah, I have an Evergreen online course. My mission
Speaker 4: in the world is to teach as many people this
Speaker 4: method as possible and have it be in all kinds
Speaker 4: of wellness centers across the country so that you can
Speaker 4: holistically heal, just like some alternative therapies like the benefits.
Speaker 3: Of red light therapy, right, you know, the wrig goals
Speaker 3: and all that kind of.
Speaker 4: Good stuff, as well as I also work for a
Speaker 4: nutraceutical company, so we support the body's physical healing.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 4: We have products that help ship these up and out
Speaker 4: when it's been stuck in the physical because sometimes the
Speaker 4: body needs a kickstart, so I'd rather go the natural
Speaker 4: route before the farmer route. There's lots of different ways
Speaker 4: to heal, but my ultimate mission is the sole intelligence
Speaker 4: method and to teach others how to do this so
Speaker 4: that we can heal people. And I have trained practitioners.
Speaker 4: I have some of them listed on my website who
Speaker 4: will also take sessions, so in essence to duplicate myself
Speaker 4: as best as possible, but bes you do have options
Speaker 4: to be able to schedule not only with me, but
Speaker 4: with them, and they're they're super highly qualified as well.
Speaker 1: Obviously people are going to want the original person to
Speaker 1: do it for them, right so, and it's not possible
Speaker 1: unfortunately because it's is just only one of you, Christine,
Speaker 1: So I totally understand. But is this something that you
Speaker 1: can teach people to do for themselves or do they
Speaker 1: have to go to a practitioner for this?
Speaker 4: I you know, if you have an interest in healing,
Speaker 4: I really believe that you can learn the method I
Speaker 4: have taught our ends. I have taught healers like coaches
Speaker 4: like to add it to their coaching practice so they
Speaker 4: get to the real root cause of what's going on
Speaker 4: for somebody or why they're struggling and they're not able
Speaker 4: to shift. So I think as long as you have
Speaker 4: an interest in healing, I can teach pretty much anybody
Speaker 4: how to do it. Originally I would just do the
Speaker 4: method for myself, right, like, oh, this is really good.
Speaker 3: I think other people need to know how to do this.
Speaker 4: And I got real brave and I called my functional
Speaker 4: medicine doctor and I said, hey, I know, you know
Speaker 4: me is this crazy? You know, corporate stressed out ride
Speaker 4: a dream old junkie running across the country turning companies around.
Speaker 4: But I had this other thing I can do, and
Speaker 4: so that's really how it started.
Speaker 3: I went to her office and I.
Speaker 4: Worked on one of her practitioners, Like she had another
Speaker 4: doctor in the office whose schedule had completely cleared the afternoon.
Speaker 4: I went down, which never happens, right, that's like one
Speaker 4: of the busiest offices. She's like, I don't remember last
Speaker 4: time I had three cancelations. I go, well, I guess
Speaker 4: we're supposed to do this.
Speaker 3: So I did the.
Speaker 4: Session for her and she had such a release. She
Speaker 4: was crying, like balling. She kicked her water all over
Speaker 4: the floor, which water tends to represent emotions and emotional release.
Speaker 4: And then my doctor like knocked on the door, peeped
Speaker 4: her head and right at that moment and said, oh,
Speaker 4: I wanted to see how it was going.
Speaker 3: She goes, wow, I'm next.
Speaker 1: Like she was like, I've got do me, do me,
Speaker 1: do me, do me.
Speaker 4: So yeah, that's kind of how it worked. But I
Speaker 4: really do want to teach as many people as possible.
Speaker 4: That's really what I feel my calling is. And I
Speaker 4: do a free group session typically everyone sorry, the first
Speaker 4: Wednesday of every mark online and if people are interested
Speaker 4: in signing up for that, they can go to my website.
Speaker 4: And that's a cool way to experience it because it's
Speaker 4: in a group, and I typically look at what's going
Speaker 4: on energetically in the world or what have my clients
Speaker 4: been experiencing that week, and kind of pick a theme.
Speaker 4: I kind of clear the group with respect to the theme.
Speaker 4: And when I work with people one on one, I
Speaker 4: get very specific. I can figure out you know, times
Speaker 4: and incidents and people involved and all of that kind
Speaker 4: of stuff, but when you're doing it in a group,
Speaker 4: it's a little bit more general. But people still go,
Speaker 4: oh my gosh, I can't believe how different I feel.
Speaker 3: And so it's a really nice way for people to
Speaker 3: experience the method.
Speaker 2: That really sounds wonderful. And I love that you do
Speaker 2: that free session so people can get a little taste
Speaker 2: of it. And speaking of that, we have a lot
Speaker 2: of our listeners are new to this whole space. They're
Speaker 2: curious about it. They're kind of dipping their toes in.
Speaker 2: For someone who's just about it, but maybe a little
Speaker 2: not fearful, but just nervous, maybe that about booking a session,
Speaker 2: what's kind of a general idea of what they would
Speaker 2: be able to expect in a session?
Speaker 3: What is that kind of the method? Isho's getting away
Speaker 3: too much.
Speaker 4: You know, most of the time we're human doings, not
Speaker 4: human beings. Okay, so the first thing is all you
Speaker 4: have to do is show up to a Zoom session
Speaker 4: and received. That's really truly it be open to just receiving,
Speaker 4: so open mind, open heart. That's like the only requirement.
Speaker 4: So there really isn't a whole lot that somebody has
Speaker 4: to do other than being braven up to schedule a session.
Speaker 4: But if people want to get to know me or
Speaker 4: get to know the method a little bit more, like
Speaker 4: I said, I do the free session the first Wednesday
Speaker 4: of every month. They can go to my website and
Speaker 4: sign up for my email list as well. And the website,
Speaker 4: I'm sure you'll put in the show notes, but it's
Speaker 4: sole Intelligence method dot com. I also have meditations there.
Speaker 4: People can get my book there and read about a
Speaker 4: lot of the different case studies and how the method works,
Speaker 4: and you know, enjoy all that.
Speaker 1: It's a definite rabbit hole doing research for the interview.
Speaker 1: I was on your site on how long because there's
Speaker 1: so much stuff to do there, But it's great skeptic
Speaker 1: aanposition dot com. You can go to her episode page.
Speaker 1: You'll see the link directly laid in there. Who It's
Speaker 1: easy for you to access, and I do recommend don't want.
Speaker 4: A transcription of this whole thing because the way you
Speaker 4: introduced me was like Matt's Daddy wicked cool.
Speaker 3: I'm like, wow, some research.
Speaker 1: I think that can be aligned. Aligned, that can be arranged,
Speaker 1: Thank you? Arranged that can be arranged. See, I am
Speaker 1: all discombobulated. I just did all my energy on the
Speaker 1: research and now can't you speak anymore?
Speaker 3: No, it was great. I really appreciate that.
Speaker 1: Sure, No, absolutely, it's fun is there anybody that this
Speaker 1: is not good for?
Speaker 4: Oh goodness, I can't imagine, you know, I really and
Speaker 4: you know, I've had a case where, a pretty extreme
Speaker 4: case where I was working with a patient and I
Speaker 4: say patient because I was kind of you know, tagging
Speaker 4: in with the position and a lot of things had
Speaker 4: come up around her heart area, and so I was
Speaker 4: really concerned, like, Wow, what's going on? Is she having
Speaker 4: a heart issue during the session? And so then I saw,
Speaker 4: you know, something pretty intense like suicide, and so you
Speaker 4: don't want to mess around with something like that. So
Speaker 4: I delicately kind of you know, approached it and said, hey,
Speaker 4: I'm seeing a lot of like stressed in your heart area.
Speaker 4: Are you taking what you're supposed to be taking for
Speaker 4: your heart? And she's like no, I go, because it
Speaker 4: looks like you're self sabotaging and a lot's.
Speaker 3: Been coming up.
Speaker 4: I said, have you been had being thoughts about, you know,
Speaker 4: wanting to leave this planet?
Speaker 3: Made this roum leave three D?
Speaker 4: And she's like yeah, said she started to cry, And
Speaker 4: so then I asked her, I said, do you want that?
Speaker 4: Is that what you're looking to do? Or are you
Speaker 4: looking to shift up and out or do you want
Speaker 4: to be here? She's like, no, I want to be here.
Speaker 4: And I said, okay, So we're going to clear the
Speaker 4: self sabotage. We're going to clear what's going on in
Speaker 4: the heart, We're going to clear all that stuff.
Speaker 3: And I said, but then I'm going to want to.
Speaker 4: Talk to your doctor to make sure that she connects
Speaker 4: with you, to make sure that you're on the right
Speaker 4: you know, supplements or medication whatever she thinks you need.
Speaker 4: And you have to promise me that you will take
Speaker 4: her call and that you will come into the office.
Speaker 3: Right. So it was kind of like this tag team's thing.
Speaker 4: And the very next day I got you know, like
Speaker 4: actually later that day I got a text from both
Speaker 4: the physician and the patient thanking me they had talked
Speaker 4: there together, and you know, she's still with us and
Speaker 4: doing much better. But it was just, you know, sometimes
Speaker 4: you're like, wow, you know, you don't think about the
Speaker 4: power of the method or what you're actually doing for
Speaker 4: people at the time. So when I tell you, when
Speaker 4: you ask the question, can something permanently ship?
Speaker 3: Sure?
Speaker 4: But again, we have this free will, right, so when
Speaker 4: you ask me, is it not for anybody?
Speaker 3: I don't know. I've not run into anybody who hasn't
Speaker 3: benefited from it.
Speaker 4: I used to it as part of my coaching and
Speaker 4: leadership practice before choosing to go back inside because one
Speaker 4: of my clients started using my methods on me and saying,
Speaker 4: you know what, you're going to work full times someday.
Speaker 4: That's how I wound up working in the Nutricitical company.
Speaker 4: But it's been a match made in heaven because I'm
Speaker 4: glad to be all of me. So I do sole
Speaker 4: intelligence session you know at our conferences.
Speaker 3: I'm you know. I talked to both about what I
Speaker 3: do for Solar.
Speaker 4: Intelligence as well as for Nutritional Frontiers, which is the
Speaker 4: Nutricitical brand, and absolutely love how everything works together and
Speaker 4: our missions the same to make the world healthy physically, mentally, emotionally, spiritually,
Speaker 4: and energetically.
Speaker 1: I like that mission a lot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And you said you haven't the Evergreen course on
Speaker 2: your website that people can can sign up for is
Speaker 2: that if they want to use the method on themselves
Speaker 2: or is that if they want to help other people
Speaker 2: with the method.
Speaker 4: The answer is yes, because when you start to learn,
Speaker 4: you pretty much doing it on yourself, and then you
Speaker 4: have to work up to be able to do it
Speaker 4: on other people and go through a certification, you know,
Speaker 4: practicum so that I know you know what you're doing right,
Speaker 4: or I have a senior coach who also can check
Speaker 4: in and tap in to make sure that you're comfortable
Speaker 4: and moving energy and there's some things to it right.
Speaker 4: You don't want to retain that, you want to shift
Speaker 4: it up and out for that person. I'm sure you
Speaker 4: guys have used the term EmPATH or being empathic where
Speaker 4: you feel right. My first sense is clear sentience. So
Speaker 4: I am definitely empathic, and so I have to be
Speaker 4: very careful about am I allowing that energy to successfully
Speaker 4: move through me? Or am I holding it? And that's
Speaker 4: also a reason for me going in and checking on
Speaker 4: a weekly basis, you know, just making sure that I'm
Speaker 4: clear before I do a session frameone.
Speaker 1: Gotcha. So, Karen, this is not for you because you're
Speaker 1: too much of an.
Speaker 4: EmPATH, I'm mighty for me, it actually would be if
Speaker 4: you aren't empathic. I do think it helps, I mean
Speaker 4: just being you know, intuitive and empathic, it helps you
Speaker 4: be in tune.
Speaker 3: But it is something you have to just be aware of.
Speaker 2: Sure, and do you have to have any sort of
Speaker 2: I don't know, like psychic abilities or energetic abilities prior
Speaker 2: to taking the course.
Speaker 1: We need to take a quick pause, but would be
Speaker 1: right back right up to these messages and now back
Speaker 1: to the show.
Speaker 2: Do you have to have any sort of I don't know,
Speaker 2: like psychic abilities or energetic abilities prior to taking the course.
Speaker 4: One of the things the first things that I teach
Speaker 4: people is how to work with a pendulum. You know,
Speaker 4: it's just a way for the energy to come through you,
Speaker 4: and so you can discern what's on the charts and
Speaker 4: what needs to shift. So once you get comfortable trusting
Speaker 4: your higher self or your intuition, then no, it's not
Speaker 4: a problem. And usually people pick that up right away.
Speaker 4: But that's like in the very beginning, it's one of
Speaker 4: the first things that you learn.
Speaker 1: Christine Karen did not need any more reason to buy
Speaker 1: any more pendulum. See you have a lot of She
Speaker 1: is a bendulum junkie.
Speaker 3: My name is Kardon. I'm a pendulum aholic. What are
Speaker 3: the things I do recommend is that you get a pendulum.
Speaker 4: That this may not be you may be annoyed with
Speaker 4: me for saying this, but it can't be longer than
Speaker 4: a pen and the reason why you don't want to
Speaker 4: have that long of a change because you'll be holding
Speaker 4: it over a book, and so your arm's gonna get
Speaker 4: really tired if it's really long, So you might have
Speaker 4: to get a few shortened.
Speaker 3: You know, maybe you don't need nu months. I don't know,
Speaker 3: but Christine, I said not, We're going to be there Friday.
Speaker 3: No more I gift stories.
Speaker 1: Okay, well, but that makes a lot.
Speaker 3: What are the tips I would give you?
Speaker 1: Well that I wanted to hear about your book because
Speaker 1: you just released a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 3: Tell congratulation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a huge accomplishment. What is the name of
Speaker 1: the book and what is it about.
Speaker 4: It's called Healing through Soul Intelligence, and it is all
Speaker 4: about the method. How I came about having the method
Speaker 4: kind of downloaded to me and my experience shifting from
Speaker 4: the corporate world to coming out of the spiritual closet,
Speaker 4: sharing case, studying a lot of the different people that
Speaker 4: I've helped over the years, and it's.
Speaker 3: Just a really cool tool.
Speaker 4: I give journal prompts in it as well, so at
Speaker 4: the end of each chapter, whatever I've shared, you get
Speaker 4: to have an experience as well.
Speaker 3: And my audiobook I recorded out in La just about a.
Speaker 4: Week ago, and a cool Grammy Award winning studio was like,
Speaker 4: such an experience, I know, and it's going to be
Speaker 4: available and audible.
Speaker 3: Actually it should be by the time this episode airs
Speaker 3: by the end of the week.
Speaker 1: Very cool. I'm curious you're in the recording studio. Do
Speaker 1: you read like it takes me a couple of weeks
Speaker 1: to read a book. You're sitting there, like standing on
Speaker 1: your feet in front of a microphone for days on
Speaker 1: end weeks reading your book.
Speaker 3: Well, I did it.
Speaker 4: I think the first read through was over a couple
Speaker 4: of days, in about eight hours, and then we had
Speaker 4: some you know what they call I don't know what
Speaker 4: is it upticks or some basically edits, right, you know,
Speaker 4: we had to go back in and read Chase yeah there, yeah,
Speaker 4: that's the word see perfect, and you know, just to
Speaker 4: kind of clean it up. So I did it, and
Speaker 4: they told me in a pretty unusual amount of time,
Speaker 4: Like I was, I was able to get it done
Speaker 4: and basically over a weekend, you know, about a three
Speaker 4: day period, and they were like, what how did you
Speaker 4: do that? They're like most authors like have to come
Speaker 4: back and they don't read their stuff very well. They're like,
Speaker 4: you must speak in front of a lot of people.
Speaker 4: I go, yeah, I tend to do that regular bapist,
Speaker 4: so it was easy.
Speaker 1: I listened to a lot of podcasts in double speed,
Speaker 1: So did you maybe speak double speed?
Speaker 4: But New York you may have heard a little bit
Speaker 4: of an accent here and there, so I didn't have to,
Speaker 4: you know, repronounce some words. That was mostly do you
Speaker 4: know the one that I had to record the most,
Speaker 4: the end. I'm like, how many ways can you actually
Speaker 4: say the end?
Speaker 3: Like, you know, like it was so bizarre?
Speaker 1: Money Now, since you're from New York, question, how do
Speaker 1: you say the first day of the weekend.
Speaker 3: The first day of the weekend, the day after Friday?
Speaker 1: What's the day after Friday? How do you say that?
Speaker 4: Oh, Saturday, That's exactly how you say thank you?
Speaker 3: I just say it sounds.
Speaker 1: It has given me so much grief about the way
Speaker 1: I say Saturday because it's Saturday. Just it's not, you know,
Speaker 1: it's anyway. Yes, I'm from the same area as you are,
Speaker 1: so we.
Speaker 3: Speak the same Where are you from originally?
Speaker 1: I'm actually raised in Connecticut, which is about Fairfield County.
Speaker 1: It's about an hour away from the.
Speaker 3: City, Okay, western Westport, Fairfield, Norwalk.
Speaker 1: Where a little town called Richfield. Actually spent a lot
Speaker 1: of time in Westport and Wilton actually, and then I
Speaker 1: lived in Old Greneche for a while as well.
Speaker 4: Oh wow, okay, well, I you know, I was originally
Speaker 4: from New York, but then we did the Long Island
Speaker 4: and then the Connecticut tour and then.
Speaker 1: I heard the Long Island now, yeah, you know, and.
Speaker 4: Then the Pocono's. But I had a little stint in
Speaker 4: Connecticut and Weston.
Speaker 1: Okay, so yeah, my brother's still in Bethel in Newtown.
Speaker 3: Oh goodness, there comms mill Inn if that rings anything.
Speaker 1: I know, And we went to there for the like
Speaker 1: the dinner before the prom is. That was the big
Speaker 1: place to go there, you go.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so that was probably the closest, little little haunt.
Speaker 4: I used to go, like in their candy Star as
Speaker 4: a kid and go grab stuff that.
Speaker 3: Place. Ever, it's really been fun, you know, chatting with
Speaker 3: both of you.
Speaker 1: Likewise, thank you so much for taking the time and
Speaker 1: sharing of this meth. We definitely have to try it.
Speaker 1: I love that uber curious, so maybe we can do it. Maybe,
Speaker 1: I don't know how you feel about recording it and
Speaker 1: maybe sharing it later on or whatever, something like that
Speaker 1: week we'll talk offline.
Speaker 4: Absolutely love that. That would be amazing and then you know,
Speaker 4: depending on what comes up, and.
Speaker 3: You can decide whether you want to share it with
Speaker 3: the world.
Speaker 1: A good point. Yeah, a good point. Maybe we won't
Speaker 1: record it, never mind.
Speaker 3: I do. That is a point. I do allow people
Speaker 3: to record the session.
Speaker 4: Typically I do them on zoom and I allow them
Speaker 4: to record it and retain it so if they want
Speaker 4: to listen, not that you need to, but some people
Speaker 4: like that because it puts them in a meditative space.
Speaker 4: And some people like to write, write, and I don't
Speaker 4: want someone distracted during a session.
Speaker 3: I want them to just you know, allow and receive
Speaker 3: and let it go.
Speaker 4: So if they want to go back and listen or
Speaker 4: have questions later, I'm always happy to.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that court's very cool.
Speaker 1: So, yeah, give us your website one more time.
Speaker 3: Sure it is sole Intelligence method dot com perfect.
Speaker 1: All you need to do if you don't have a
Speaker 1: pen right now is go to Skeptic Meposian dot com.
Speaker 1: You have been there many times. Go to her episode page.
Speaker 1: You'll see the link directly in our show notes there
Speaker 1: so you can't miss it. Oh my gosh, Christine, this
Speaker 1: has been wonderful. I really look forward to our session
Speaker 1: so that I can finally release the fourth grade stuff
Speaker 1: I said.
Speaker 3: I love it.
Speaker 1: We'll talk very soon.
Speaker 3: I'm sure I love it. Well. Thank you both. It
Speaker 3: was really fun. Thank you too, and.
Speaker 1: A huge thank you to you. We hope you've enjoyed
Speaker 1: this conversation as much as we have. It's all for now.
Speaker 1: We will see you on the next episode of The
Speaker 1: Skeptic Metaphysician. Until then, take care,