Speaker 1: You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
Speaker 1: KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2: Let's talk some tech on this Thursday with our regular
Speaker 2: tech contributor Marcia Collier. Marsha's good to see how you
Speaker 2: doing tonight, Mo.
Speaker 3: You're looking fabulous, you really are. I love coming here
Speaker 3: and talking to you so much tech and you know,
Speaker 3: a lot of times we talk about different new products
Speaker 3: and things like that, and how to protect yourself and things.
Speaker 3: We got a little of that, and I'm going to
Speaker 3: have some new products for you coming up in the
Speaker 3: next few weeks that you will find interesting. But I
Speaker 3: wanted to talk a little tech philosophy with you too.
Speaker 4: Okay, let's do it.
Speaker 3: Okay. Now, Android phones always start their stuff on pixel,
Speaker 3: right your pixel?
Speaker 4: Yep?
Speaker 3: Have you gotten the nine yet?
Speaker 4: I have not.
Speaker 2: I may wait for the nine to a since they
Speaker 2: moved up their release celebration as it were. You know,
Speaker 2: it was less than a year, and I didn't feel
Speaker 2: comfortable with buying another phone and for me, it wasn't
Speaker 2: like a material upgrade in that short amount of time.
Speaker 4: I can wait. My phone is beautiful, it's working just fine.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I actually feel the same way as you. And I'm
Speaker 3: even thinking maybe waiting for the ten because right now
Speaker 3: they're so busy jamming all the AI into the phone
Speaker 3: that you know, pixels can get wonky with all this
Speaker 3: new stuff. I just my phone's working great. I'm a
Speaker 3: big proponent, just like people. The price of a California
Speaker 3: ten year old car is seriously rising. You thirteen thousand
Speaker 3: dollars for a ten year old California car if you
Speaker 3: move them to the East coast. People are buying them.
Speaker 3: And I think we're going to get to the same
Speaker 3: thing with phones when we've got this long warranty period
Speaker 3: and the upgrades and all the different things that they're
Speaker 3: making the phones last longer.
Speaker 2: I don't need to spend another eight hundred to a thousand,
Speaker 2: depending on the model. Right now, my phone works, and
Speaker 2: all of the intricacies I understand. And I'm going to
Speaker 2: get an update of Android when they go to the
Speaker 2: next version, next operating system, so I don't feel really
Speaker 2: left out as it is, so I'm content to wait.
Speaker 3: Well, for those of you who don't have a pixel
Speaker 3: phone on the Pixel eight, I have the pro and Mo,
Speaker 3: you have a Pixel eight.
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 3: Does the Gemini Assistant keep popping up and saying want
Speaker 3: to use me? Want to use me? Want to use me?
Speaker 2: Yes, like a kid in second grade class to always
Speaker 2: determined for me to call on it as the t
Speaker 2: as a.
Speaker 3: T me me, yeah, have you tapped it?
Speaker 4: No? Me either, No, because if I'm looking for something,
Speaker 4: I know what I'm looking for. I mean, I know,
Speaker 4: I don't want it to tell me what I'm looking for.
Speaker 4: I'm just gonna go find what I'm looking for.
Speaker 3: Well, I think one of the sharpest things that people
Speaker 3: can do when you have this brilliant little computer in
Speaker 3: your hand is you to sharpen your own mind and
Speaker 3: figure out how to do these things, how to be
Speaker 3: an ace at Google Search, how to even use the
Speaker 3: current assistant that's on an Android phone to make it better.
Speaker 3: So these things they're going to be adding, and they
Speaker 3: have added, and I felt, honestly, I haven't filled out
Speaker 3: the forms and given the ok on my phone. For example,
Speaker 3: have you heard about the anti theft upgrade?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 4: I have not.
Speaker 3: Okay, So your phone has a gyroscope and accelerometer, and
Speaker 3: that's for common motion associated with carrying your phone. Now
Speaker 3: it's going to notice if someone snatches a phone out
Speaker 3: of your hand, and then starts running or biking or
Speaker 3: driving away.
Speaker 2: Well that's helpful unless I can't catch them. I mean,
Speaker 2: I guess we'll have some sort of GPS location on
Speaker 2: the phone. But how might this make it better or
Speaker 2: easier for me to get my phone back?
Speaker 3: Well, it makes it easier, I get it. It was more
Speaker 3: difficult for them to factory reset a phone because you
Speaker 3: can get to it first.
Speaker 4: There's that.
Speaker 3: And are you using private spaces on your phone?
Speaker 4: No, I'm not.
Speaker 3: I have nothing private, so I don't use private spaces.
Speaker 3: You can mark your phone as lost on the Find
Speaker 3: my Device network for easier tracking. And what that'll do
Speaker 3: is ramp up the phones that are looking. You know,
Speaker 3: the phones that are on the network. Everybody. You should.
Speaker 3: If you have an Android phone, download to Find my
Speaker 3: Device app. You'll be shocked when you open it up.
Speaker 3: Every phone you ever had or whatever you have to
Speaker 3: remove set or they're there and you can find them.
Speaker 3: And I've been practicing with some track Android trackers that
Speaker 3: are getting better and better because of all the billions
Speaker 3: of Android phones we have. But again, you can automatic
Speaker 3: lock the phone for excessive failed authentication. You can do
Speaker 3: all kinds of things. But as we know with taking
Speaker 3: pictures of people or even knowing where it is, so
Speaker 3: you have to find them. The police have to realize
Speaker 3: that it's a crime. And because of the laws the
Speaker 3: way they are right now, our phones are not worth
Speaker 3: more than one thousand dollars.
Speaker 4: Let me push back on that.
Speaker 2: Let's say a phone is snatched out of my hand
Speaker 2: and I see the thief run away, and I use
Speaker 2: find my device, and I know in the general vicinity
Speaker 2: of where it is. I'm quite sure police would say
Speaker 2: do not try to apprehend that person may be armed
Speaker 2: and or dangerous.
Speaker 4: Obviously is a criminal.
Speaker 2: But at the same time, if I go to the police,
Speaker 2: they probably would not make that a high priority item.
Speaker 2: So isn't it just better to go ahead and wipe
Speaker 2: the phone and take the loss?
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. To find my device, app I
Speaker 3: think is the best thing you can do. I personally,
Speaker 3: I would put on the sound because you can tap
Speaker 3: on that to make sound and let that person know
Speaker 3: that you're controlling the phone. I would lock it. You
Speaker 3: can lock it through find my device without wiping the phone. Uh,
Speaker 3: that's what I do. I just lock the phone, so
Speaker 3: you know, if you've got biometrics set up. Let them
Speaker 3: try and figure also what your keys is are. Then
Speaker 3: another thing is car crash detection. Hey, I think that's awesome.
Speaker 3: I that was one of the reasons I kept on
Speaker 3: Star on my car for so long, is because if
Speaker 3: I was in a car crash all by myself, it
Speaker 3: would phone me and I'd go help help and they
Speaker 3: would call the police. Now the same thing will be.
Speaker 3: They're starting it right now on the pixel phones and
Speaker 3: all of you. I know we talk about pixel phones,
Speaker 3: but pixel phones are really the tryout spot for all
Speaker 3: the new Android features. We get to be the guinea
Speaker 3: pigs for the rest of you, and once they prove
Speaker 3: that it's working great, then it goes ahead. So have
Speaker 3: you noticed that you have a personal safety app on
Speaker 3: your phone?
Speaker 4: Yes? I have noticed that.
Speaker 3: How much of it have you filled out?
Speaker 4: I want to say two thirds of it?
Speaker 3: And you filled out only what you felt comfortable. What
Speaker 3: did you put in it?
Speaker 2: I put in the secondary contact information like the case
Speaker 2: of emergency person things.
Speaker 4: Of that nature.
Speaker 3: Do you put any medical history or anything?
Speaker 4: So I did not. I did not consciously did not, you.
Speaker 3: Know, And I have to tell you I put that
Speaker 3: in my book that's not the place for your medical history.
Speaker 3: I drove around the San Fernando Valley and went from
Speaker 3: one firehouse to the next, and I asked the guy
Speaker 3: and I said, or the lady, And I said, when
Speaker 3: you pick up someone on the street who's been an accenter,
Speaker 3: who's been hurt or something like that, do you go
Speaker 3: through their phone for their medical history? The clean answer
Speaker 3: there was heck no. Basically, they are not interested in
Speaker 3: fuxing with your phone. If you're in a serious medical condition.
Speaker 2: If it's an emergency, they're going to take me to
Speaker 2: the hospital. Anyhow, they will have my medical information there.
Speaker 3: Exactly, and if even if they don't, I recommend anybody
Speaker 3: print out all your medications, fold it up nice little bulb,
Speaker 3: put it in your wallet behind your driver's license. I
Speaker 3: do it, carry it with you at all times because
Speaker 3: a lot of times some of the meds people take
Speaker 3: would affect other drugs. But that's a far more effective way.
Speaker 3: But people like it in their phone. And one more time,
Speaker 3: remember when you give up permission for someone to go
Speaker 3: into your phone, it's open season.
Speaker 2: Great great advice and information from Marshall. Colluer will have
Speaker 2: more on this Tech Thursday with her, so keep it
Speaker 2: right here on KFI AM six forty. It's later with
Speaker 2: Moe Kelly. We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. Kelly
Speaker 2: Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. As we continue on
Speaker 2: this Tech Thursday with Marsha Collier, who joins me. Marsha,
Speaker 2: you and I have talked about this off the air.
Speaker 2: I think we should talk about it now on the air.
Speaker 2: I am someone who's slowed to adopt certain marketplaces. It
Speaker 2: took me a while to grab hold of eBay, and
Speaker 2: I know you is the queen eBay for dummies. You
Speaker 2: were very helpful in that regard. It took me a
Speaker 2: while to adopt Amazon. I still have not adopted Timu
Speaker 2: or Tamu or Tamo. I don't know how they pronounceshen
Speaker 2: or what right.
Speaker 4: And I didn't do ally to express. The point is
Speaker 4: I have to grow in confidence.
Speaker 2: I let all my other friends be the test dummies,
Speaker 2: because I hear all the horror stories of how they
Speaker 2: order something and it never shows up and is buyer
Speaker 2: beware for the most part. How do you recommend that
Speaker 2: we should approach this online marketplace?
Speaker 3: Well, you know you. You threw in Shan and Timu
Speaker 3: and I just want to tell you what you're going
Speaker 3: to get from those companies. You may get good merchandise, granted,
Speaker 3: you may get a good deal, but what you're paying
Speaker 3: for is your with your data. It is on your phone.
Speaker 3: It has been proven, and there's cases in Washington now
Speaker 3: where they have the phone. Your phone is on at night,
Speaker 3: it's phoning home, and it's sending your data. I personally
Speaker 3: will never put Tamu or she In on my phone period.
Speaker 3: So I'm stuck basically with eBay, Amazon, the occasional Jay crew,
Speaker 3: will Alph Lauren, you know, Nordstrom, Sacks, not Fly by Night,
Speaker 3: not exactly brands, you know brand although Nieman Marcus did
Speaker 3: get hacked, which thanks thanks a lot for that. But
Speaker 3: we've all frozen our credit, as we've talked about, so
Speaker 3: we shouldn't have to worry about that part of it.
Speaker 4: But what do we do when we try a place
Speaker 4: or let's say we get on eBay and it's not
Speaker 4: a retailer or a supplier that we've used before and
Speaker 4: we want to take a chance we do, we don't
Speaker 4: get it our package. What should we do? What should
Speaker 4: be the first step?
Speaker 3: Well, eBay is easy. I'm gonna manually talk about Amazon here.
Speaker 3: But eBay is easy. They have a one hundred percent
Speaker 3: guarantee warranty that it will arrive. The seller has to
Speaker 3: input the tracking number, and if there's no tracking number
Speaker 3: on your package, I'd be a little sus at that point.
Speaker 3: I worry about that because eBay wants them to put
Speaker 3: in a tracking number, and eBay will tell you that
Speaker 3: your package will be delivered on such and such a date.
Speaker 3: If it's not delivered on such and such a date,
Speaker 3: you know there's a problem. If it arrives not as
Speaker 3: described in the listing, you immediately go onto your eBay account.
Speaker 3: I personally will message the seller through eBay and let
Speaker 3: them know it arrived not as described before I open
Speaker 3: a case. And if you open a case and you
Speaker 3: are found that it was the right thing, they may
Speaker 3: ask for pictures. You get your money back. So eBay
Speaker 3: is easy. It's Amazon where we're talking about this, because
Speaker 3: this is a whole new scam. Ah it's called a
Speaker 3: brushing scam. I don't know why it's called a brush use.
Speaker 3: This has nothing to do with brushes. You know how,
Speaker 3: when you read Amazon reviews, it says very purchases right
Speaker 3: of course, so, so you know these people actually bought
Speaker 3: the product, right, Well, it seems they may not have.
Speaker 4: Oh come on, ye, what can I tell you?
Speaker 3: You can't believe everything you read on the internet. Shock shock.
Speaker 3: Uh So did you ever get a package that you
Speaker 3: didn't order?
Speaker 4: Not me. I've had packages that never arrived.
Speaker 2: I've had packages that I had to reorder somehow it
Speaker 2: got lost in shipping. At Amazon to their credit will
Speaker 2: say your package seems to have been lost, and they.
Speaker 4: Will offer the option for a refund.
Speaker 2: But I haven't received short of someone just a driver
Speaker 2: incorrectly placing my neighbor's package.
Speaker 4: Right right right.
Speaker 3: Okay. This is a whole new thing. Is you get
Speaker 3: a package of something you didn't order. You go to
Speaker 3: your orders and said, did I order this? It's not there,
Speaker 3: it's not listed. This happened to me, and it was
Speaker 3: particularly scary to me because it was some sort of
Speaker 3: religious tracked thing sent to me from Amazon and I
Speaker 3: didn't order it. I called Amazon. They said that just
Speaker 3: keep it whatever, donate it to a library, do whatever
Speaker 3: you want. You're not charged for it because it's not
Speaker 3: on your account. What these people do is they use
Speaker 3: the information that comes up in the breaches, so they
Speaker 3: have your address, they have your name, and they send
Speaker 3: it as a gift to you. Now that you think
Speaker 3: that's kind of stupid. Why would you send your product
Speaker 3: to people?
Speaker 4: Yeah, what's my endgame here?
Speaker 3: The endgame is they get to add reviews as a
Speaker 3: verified purchase, and that's where the fake reviews look doubly
Speaker 3: legit because it says verified purchase.
Speaker 2: So the scam is not necessarily duping you to take
Speaker 2: your money. The scam is to do general customers, so
Speaker 2: they will buy possibly fraudulent products.
Speaker 3: Right, so other people will buy products. I recommend if
Speaker 3: this happens to you, if you get a dog toy
Speaker 3: in the mail and you never ordered it or something,
Speaker 3: notify Amazon. Let them know that it's happened, because then
Speaker 3: they can keep an eye on that seller. If you don't,
Speaker 3: they'll never know. I never thought of that this is
Speaker 3: and actually it can you know, they can do brushing scams.
Speaker 3: They can also email you for payment, and somebody who's
Speaker 3: not familiar with how Amazon works will say, oh, I
Speaker 3: have to send them money. There's all kinds of things
Speaker 3: that could happen. If you didn't order it, you don't
Speaker 3: have to return it. You're safe and report it to Amazon.
Speaker 3: But there's also the identity thing. They could be using
Speaker 3: your name and address for more than just sending you
Speaker 3: stuff on Amazon, which verifies that you are you because
Speaker 3: it arrives and the package isn't sent back.
Speaker 2: Marshall Collier, you're just making me even more apprehensive about
Speaker 2: existing in this online marketplace. There's so many things to
Speaker 2: worry about, but our data is so very valuable to
Speaker 2: not only ourselves but anyone else out there, including would
Speaker 2: be criminals. I got to run at this point, but
Speaker 2: thank you Marshall for coming on this evening.
Speaker 4: You know, right before we go into this Labor Day weekend.
Speaker 2: I'm quite sure all of us may be doing a
Speaker 2: little online purchasing, so this might be very valuable immediately.
Speaker 2: Thank you for coming on tonight.
Speaker 3: Thanks and don't forget to set up your lists before
Speaker 3: you go shopping, because just because it's on sale doesn't
Speaker 3: mean you have to buy it.
Speaker 4: Oh can't we please just buy everything as we see it?
Speaker 1: Can't we?
Speaker 4: Please? Always? Please have a great weekend. Marcia, Bye bye.
Speaker 1: You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
Speaker 1: KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 5: We're back and we did not come to play buckle
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Speaker 5: the most talented barbecue cooks in America made the cut.
Speaker 6: I just hope this decision I made was a good one.
Speaker 4: Amen, sister.
Speaker 5: These cooks are here to show us that stuff. Yes,
Speaker 5: and you won't believe what we have in store for them.
Speaker 3: Oh, I love a plot twist.
Speaker 4: We're serving up some tangy twists. I told y'all things
Speaker 4: were gonna be different.
Speaker 6: What is going on?
Speaker 1: Mark?
Speaker 4: They'll either shine bright one you hit the jackpucker. This
Speaker 4: is good. I thought I was going home for sure. KF.
Speaker 2: I am sixty later with Mo Kelly. We're live everywhere
Speaker 2: on the iHeartRadio app. With the Labor Day weekend and
Speaker 2: holiday barbecues upon us, it's time to get in that
Speaker 2: last hurrah of summer. How better to do just that
Speaker 2: than talk holiday barbecues with a fourth generation Texas pitmaster.
Speaker 2: You may know Sloan Rinaldi from season three of Netflix's
Speaker 2: Barbecue Showdown, which premiered on the fourth of July, and
Speaker 2: she recently released her book of the same name, Barbecue Showdown,
Speaker 2: featuring her thirteen challenge winning recipes as seen on the show.
Speaker 2: That's not including her line of award winning barbecue sauces.
Speaker 2: But right now, I'm pleased to welcome Ronaldi to Later
Speaker 2: with Mo Kelly Sloane.
Speaker 4: A pleasure to have you on tonight. How are you doing, yo,
Speaker 4: Mo Man?
Speaker 6: This is my pleasure, This is my pleasure to be
Speaker 6: with you.
Speaker 2: I'm so happy I got to start with the obvious question.
Speaker 2: How were you first exposed to grilling, barbecuing?
Speaker 4: However you want to characterize it?
Speaker 6: Okay, first of all, I would never say grilling. I
Speaker 6: am strictly smoking barbecue.
Speaker 4: Then no, let's tell that on that us, tell us
Speaker 4: why the distinction?
Speaker 6: Go ahead, The distinction is this, you grill hot dogs,
Speaker 6: you grill hamburgers, right, you grill a steak, you smoke
Speaker 6: a brisket, right, you smoke ribs. So that is the
Speaker 6: distinction right there now. For myself, I am a four
Speaker 6: generation pit master and did not enter the barbecue world
Speaker 6: until about ten years ago. But it's just absolutely God given,
Speaker 6: you know, blessing that I've been able to do what
Speaker 6: I've been able to do a barbecue. I'm so very thankful.
Speaker 4: What makes one a pit master?
Speaker 2: I'm quite sure people have been doing something a long time.
Speaker 2: It doesn't make you a master. Look I can, I've
Speaker 2: walked my whole life. I wouldn't say I'm very good
Speaker 2: at it. I don't have a great balance, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean either. But but what makes you or
Speaker 2: anyone else a master by definition?
Speaker 6: You know, that's a fantastic question. I was just speaking
Speaker 6: with someone about that. For me, being the master of
Speaker 6: your pit basically is to indicate that you have mastered
Speaker 6: all type of fire apparatus. So it could be a
Speaker 6: small offset pit, it could be a five hundred gallon
Speaker 6: offset pit or a thousand gallon offset bit. It could
Speaker 6: be a richissory smoker, it could be a green egg,
Speaker 6: live fire table, all those elements, all live fire elements.
Speaker 6: When you are the master of being able to control
Speaker 6: their temperatures and create succulent melt in your mouth barbecue,
Speaker 6: you are then a pit master, and it is always
Speaker 6: best that someone else referred to you as a pitmaster first. Okay.
Speaker 6: My feeling is that anyway, I would never and I
Speaker 6: did not refer to myself as a pit master in
Speaker 6: the beginning. I think that's something that you definitely earn.
Speaker 6: Your chops improve yourself, right, so, and then barbecue a
Speaker 6: pit master again indicates that you have mastered fire.
Speaker 2: I know, whenever I get in the car, or if
Speaker 2: I should just turn on the radio and listen to
Speaker 2: some other radio show, it's hard for me to listen
Speaker 2: and not think as a radio personality, There's certain things
Speaker 2: I'm going to hear. There's certain things I'm going to notice,
Speaker 2: be it background production or four ground oration by the host.
Speaker 2: Can you go to somebody's barbecue and not be at
Speaker 2: least internally judgmental?
Speaker 6: Oh gosh. You know, for me myself, I am always
Speaker 6: looking for great barbecue. And I'm in Houston and we've
Speaker 6: kind of become the barbecue capital of Texas. So there's
Speaker 6: like literally a solid thirty joints that I can go
Speaker 6: to and know that when I walk in, I'm going
Speaker 6: to have an incredibly consistent Number one experience going to
Speaker 6: be same as the last time. The brisket is going
Speaker 6: to be consistently done. All the other proteins insides are
Speaker 6: the next level, and for me, that's the number one
Speaker 6: what I'm looking for. So I don't go in and
Speaker 6: really I'm not critiquing too much. I'm really enjoining the
Speaker 6: experience and seeing what they've done differently, because there is
Speaker 6: so much in Houston. We are the most divers city
Speaker 6: in the nation now, right, So that means our culinary
Speaker 6: scene is equally as diverse, and in turn, our barbecue
Speaker 6: scene is diverse. So there is so much going on
Speaker 6: in Houston barbecue, from Vietnamese influences to Creole Cajun influences
Speaker 6: much like myself or South American. I mean, it's just
Speaker 6: all over the place, Mediterranean influences. I mean, it's just incredible.
Speaker 6: So I don't necessarily go in and thinking what could
Speaker 6: I do better, what should they do better, or anything
Speaker 6: like that. It's always about enjoy what they have done
Speaker 6: and looking around it and taking it all in because
Speaker 6: it is it's really it's a treat right now to
Speaker 6: be a barbecue for sure.
Speaker 2: Now, I know there's a lot of competition within the
Speaker 2: barbecue industry. I know that if I tell my friends
Speaker 2: I'm going to Memphis, they say you got to go here,
Speaker 2: or if I'm in Texas, they say you got to
Speaker 2: go here, or in La you got to go there.
Speaker 2: What really separates these barbecue places other than the obvious,
Speaker 2: as far as maybe the Mediterranean influence of the other
Speaker 2: culinary influences which probably come from different communities.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so Houston for me, and when anybody comes here,
Speaker 6: number one, I'm going to tell them my go to
Speaker 6: is gonna be Truth barbecue. So I'm sending people the
Speaker 6: truth for a couple of reasons. Okay, number one, it's
Speaker 6: going to be consistency. I'll always come back to that.
Speaker 6: Consistency is king. So I'm said the truth that the
Speaker 6: must go to a place in Houston because they are
Speaker 6: doing Houston craft barbecue next level, so it's the best, right.
Speaker 6: So for us, we feel that Texas Barbecue is a
Speaker 6: standalone being that Memphis and Kansas City don't do brisket,
Speaker 6: you know, so it's a more generated you know. I
Speaker 6: mean they're into port. Well, we do both. We do
Speaker 6: an incredible port and we do incredible brisket. So we've
Speaker 6: kind of we're more I think, well rounded in barbecue.
Speaker 6: Maybe that's what globally why Texas Barbecue is the phenomenon
Speaker 6: it is. It's because it does encompass all cooking techniques
Speaker 6: and styles and types of proteins. We're not limiting ourselves
Speaker 6: at all, you know. So it's just what we're doing
Speaker 6: is I think opening up a type of barbecue that
Speaker 6: before people Traditionally it was very simple and it was
Speaker 6: a craft that's well done. Now we're trying to elevate
Speaker 6: all those techniques, everything from the sides, the desserts. We're
Speaker 6: using premium ingredients where we're fining technique. We're being creative
Speaker 6: and diverse, and we're just going for it. But always
Speaker 6: coming back to the fact that unless it's consistent day
Speaker 6: after day, that is not success. To be a top
Speaker 6: ten barbecue joint in Houston and Texas is that every
Speaker 6: day you have to have that same consistency. You can
Speaker 6: lose your spot on that list.
Speaker 4: One off day, one off day, Wow.
Speaker 6: One off day.
Speaker 2: We're talking Sloan Ronaldi on basically the eve of the
Speaker 2: Labor Day weekend. I wonder is there any type of understood,
Speaker 2: unstated expectation that the Labor Day holiday is going to
Speaker 2: have in a culinary sense, which is different from Fourth
Speaker 2: of July or maybe Memorial Day weekend.
Speaker 6: Well, it's definitely the wrap up to the summer, and
Speaker 6: I would say specifically, you know Labor Day, most people
Speaker 6: like to take it a little easier. It may be
Speaker 6: more grilling than smoking on Labor Day, you know, just
Speaker 6: because of that, it is so labor in sense, you know,
Speaker 6: I think folks like to really at that point, it's
Speaker 6: the lastest wrap in the summer. Everyone knows that you're
Speaker 6: going into the fall in the winter to be a
Speaker 6: long time before you have another summer holiday. So it's
Speaker 6: about enjoying your family and your friends, and that's when
Speaker 6: grilling hot dogs, grilling hamburgers, that type of thing comes
Speaker 6: into play. But smoking barbecue for the enthusiasts and the
Speaker 6: die hard, I mean, they love to do it regardless.
Speaker 6: They don't care how much work it goes into it.
Speaker 6: And you're going to have those guys that the lucky
Speaker 6: family and friends will be there and they get the
Speaker 6: experience their brisket. But most people are going to take
Speaker 6: it a little bit easier on Labor Day. But it's
Speaker 6: always just been outside fired up any kind of pit, charcoal,
Speaker 6: would whatever, and enjoying your family and friends. I think
Speaker 6: that's what Labor Day specifically is about.
Speaker 2: If you're just tuning in. My guest right now on
Speaker 2: the line is Sloan Ronaldo. You probably know her from
Speaker 2: season three of Netflix is Barbecue Showdown or her book
Speaker 2: of the same name Barbecue Showdown or her many award
Speaker 2: winning barbecue sauces. Labor Day weekend is almost here, so
Speaker 2: we got to get you ready for it. So there's
Speaker 2: more with Sloan and here on Later with mo Kelly
Speaker 2: in just a moment.
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Speaker 2: We're talking about barbecuing, We're talking about pit mastering, We're
Speaker 2: talking about all the things that I really don't know
Speaker 2: much about. And I love how my guest right now,
Speaker 2: Sloan Naldi, is educating me and hopefully some other people
Speaker 2: listening right now on the finer points of culinary cuisine
Speaker 2: for this holiday weekend. Sloane Renaldi, you know from Netflix's
Speaker 2: Barbecue Showdown. She has a recently released book of the
Speaker 2: same name, and also she has a line of award
Speaker 2: winning barbecue sauces.
Speaker 4: So Sloan, let me bring you back into this conversation.
Speaker 2: And I readily admit that it's okay for me not
Speaker 2: to know because you are the expert and I'm not.
Speaker 2: If you were to say, mo, I'm gonna knock your
Speaker 2: socks off this Labor Day weekend, I need you to
Speaker 2: sit in that chair over there, and I'm gonna cook
Speaker 2: for you X, Y and Z.
Speaker 4: What would those items be?
Speaker 6: Okay, first, always so sorry, pride textas brisque. All right,
Speaker 6: So I'm gonna give me some succulent melf in your mouth.
Speaker 6: I'll risk it you'll never forget. Right. Then I'm gonna
Speaker 6: take you to the next level. Man, I'm gonna give
Speaker 6: you some incredible pork belly burn ins for us. We've
Speaker 6: taken the pork belly, We've cubed them up, we've rubbed
Speaker 6: them and binded them with mustard and then our creole
Speaker 6: seasoning and then our creole rub on top of that.
Speaker 6: We've smoked them. They've taken them off, we've braced them
Speaker 6: for hours. We've taken them back on the pit. We've
Speaker 6: glazed them, we've taken them back off from there, and
Speaker 6: have rendered the most succulent bite of barbecue you will
Speaker 6: ever have in your life. And one little burn in. Okay,
Speaker 6: pork belly burn in. So that's two of the proteins
Speaker 6: I'm doing for you, straight off the batman. You'll never
Speaker 6: forget them. And then likely, I think one of my favors,
Speaker 6: I'm gonna do my two stage sides. I'm gonna go
Speaker 6: with core pudding right in our pentobanch with hammocks. Those
Speaker 6: are my two quite essential Texas sides that will they
Speaker 6: compliment each other very well, and I think we'll just
Speaker 6: definitely knock your socks off.
Speaker 4: How do sides vary by location or region?
Speaker 6: Well, in Texas side and in craft barbecue have become
Speaker 6: like almost the star. You know, you know what's given
Speaker 6: when you go into a craft barbecue joint that you're
Speaker 6: going to have incredible proteins. The beef is going to
Speaker 6: be prime, the poultry, the seafood whatever, all that, the pork,
Speaker 6: it's all going to be next level, natural and the best. Right,
Speaker 6: So then it comes down to the sides. We've got
Speaker 6: to a point where it is you can tell the
Speaker 6: quality of a barbecue joint by the side. So they
Speaker 6: are all premium ingrediants. They are all hand crafted in
Speaker 6: their next level. So you may have a traditional side
Speaker 6: that you've had all your life, but it tastes different now, right,
Speaker 6: you've got caramelization involved. Like my baked beans are baked beans.
Speaker 6: I mean it's simple, it's baked beans, right, Bacon, onion,
Speaker 6: dark brown sugar and then all the other things, right,
Speaker 6: and you combine them together. Well, where the magic happens
Speaker 6: is between the third and the fourth hour of baking.
Speaker 6: People put them in the oven for an hour, maybe
Speaker 6: two even it's at three to four hours that you
Speaker 6: have caramelization. Right, So the bacon is completely rendered, it's
Speaker 6: not all flopping. You almost don't even see the bacon anymore. Actually,
Speaker 6: all this left is the little pieces of fork, right,
Speaker 6: because all the fat is completely rendered. So you have
Speaker 6: completely rendered the cork, and you have caramelized the onion
Speaker 6: and the brown sugar, and now you have got candied
Speaker 6: baked beans. Okay, So it is those techniques. It is
Speaker 6: taking that running baked bean and turning it into a
Speaker 6: delicacy of baked beans. You know. So it's taken all
Speaker 6: our sides and taking the next level, elevating everything premium ingredients,
Speaker 6: premium product, and just refined technique.
Speaker 2: I know, when I was growing up, I would say
Speaker 2: the household recipes were secret and they were only passed
Speaker 2: on by oral tradition. Given with the influx of the
Speaker 2: Internet and the popularity of being a pit master, is
Speaker 2: it still mostly oral tradition or are there books tv
Speaker 2: shows which are specifically designed to teach people the secrets
Speaker 2: of the trade.
Speaker 6: Okay, for me, it was oral up until now. So
Speaker 6: I actually I took those centuries old oral recipes that
Speaker 6: had never been written down and I crafted them into
Speaker 6: the recipes that you'll find in my Slim's cookbook Barbecue
Speaker 6: showtout thirteen challenge winning recipes. The majority of those recipes
Speaker 6: are centuries old family recipes, right that were orally given.
Speaker 6: So I sat down, created them, got them into a
Speaker 6: cookbook format and put and had made them available to everyone.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 6: So also some of those recipes were created on the
Speaker 6: fly that takes this Q Rodeo burger on set and
Speaker 6: were challenged winning recipes. So you have a combination there.
Speaker 6: There's the oral history that I just recently dropped into
Speaker 6: a book form that's available for everyone, and then those
Speaker 6: things that were done on the fly. Now, I think
Speaker 6: traditionally it is this getting to a point when you
Speaker 6: have someone that's like myself that comes to forts generation
Speaker 6: that once you get to this sports generation and you're
Speaker 6: wanting to pass it on to others, we're having to
Speaker 6: write those things down. You know. I finally had to
Speaker 6: write down Thanksgiving turkey dressing recipe for my niece. You
Speaker 6: know every year I'm the one that has to make
Speaker 6: dressing for everybody. Right well, now I had in order
Speaker 6: to pass it down to Ali, I had to sit
Speaker 6: down and figure it out, write it all out for
Speaker 6: her to be able to do so. Now those things
Speaker 6: that are going from oral to written, and it's a
Speaker 6: way to preserve by history for sure.
Speaker 2: Slan Ronaldo, I've enjoyed this conversation with you. Let me
Speaker 2: leave you with this question. I know that this is
Speaker 2: your passion. I know that this is your vocation and
Speaker 2: obviously also your invocation. I'm quite sure if I could
Speaker 2: speak for you, that you were put here to do this.
Speaker 2: But this is not the totality of who you are.
Speaker 2: If you're just trying to get something to eat, if
Speaker 2: you want to eat something, do you find yourself always
Speaker 2: heuing back to what you do professionally or what are
Speaker 2: your other culinary favorites or things that you enjoy.
Speaker 6: You know, I'm late to barbecue. It was not even
Speaker 6: my go to as something I wanted to go eat
Speaker 6: ever in my life until the last ten years. My
Speaker 6: wife was always wanted to get barbecue or briskets specifically,
Speaker 6: and I was like, no, that's not what I want,
Speaker 6: and for me, my go to is the recreole cajin, right,
Speaker 6: being from where I'm at, and I mean that's where
Speaker 6: I live and die. I mean I'll take that every
Speaker 6: day over anything else. And that's what I prefer to
Speaker 6: cook in my own home. And then Italian, you know so,
Speaker 6: and then at the end of that would be text
Speaker 6: mex you know so. Those are the styles of food
Speaker 6: I like to eat. And then again, if I'm going
Speaker 6: out looking for barbecue, now, I'm looking for amazing barbecue.
Speaker 2: Absolutely well, okay, so you are a little bit judgment
Speaker 2: Are you looking for amazing barbie?
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, it's amazing.
Speaker 4: That's true.
Speaker 6: I'm looking for amazing that's absolutely right.
Speaker 2: Well, you've ben parted some wisdom for everyone listening can
Speaker 2: have some amazing barbecue this Labor Day weekend. Sloan Rinaldi
Speaker 2: from season three of Netflix is Barbecue Showdown, which premiered
Speaker 2: on the fourth of July, recently released her cookbook of
Speaker 2: the same name, Barbecue Showdown thirteen challenge winning recipes as
Speaker 2: also seen on the show, and that doesn't include her
Speaker 2: line of award winning barbecue sauces. Very quickly, Sloan, how
Speaker 2: can people We'll find you on social media and beyond.
Speaker 6: Yes, please go to texasq dot com. All roads lead
Speaker 6: to me from there. All our links are there. IG.
Speaker 6: You can find me my personal Sloan Ronaldi, Texas Q's
Speaker 6: on IG, texasqu'es on Facebook and we'll asson. We have
Speaker 6: our YouTube channel up and TikTok. So really, texasq dot
Speaker 6: com is where you want to go. You can purchase
Speaker 6: everything there and then find me from there as well.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for coming on tonight and have
Speaker 2: a wonderful Labor Day weekend you too.
Speaker 6: Thank you, Moe, you have a wonderful, safe holiday everyone.
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