Speaker 1: What's up, good people. I promise I'll get our sounds
Speaker 1: back next week. But Touchdowns and Tangents not live anymore.
Speaker 1: But here from Hawthorne, California, Thursday, nice spot for NFL
Speaker 1: takes Topical Tangents pushed today's episode to Friday due to
Speaker 1: the College Football Playoff today, but Kenny was supposed to
Speaker 1: be there, but unfortunately city's kind of burning, And yeah,
Speaker 1: the whole Midwest is under snow, so I'm blaming.
Speaker 2: The city of I'm just blaming Houston and Dallas Airports
Speaker 2: for not properly holding people's flights together and then giving
Speaker 2: people joint getting people flights out of connective flights and
Speaker 2: then canceling their connective flights and leaving them stranded in
Speaker 2: multiple cities. So yeah, and it wasn't really worth seven
Speaker 2: hundred dollars to be stranded in Houston in a storm,
Speaker 2: three hours away from where I needed to be, and
Speaker 2: then if I got there, I'd still be like four
Speaker 2: hours late and missed like the game.
Speaker 1: But yeah, so we y'all want to talk about as
Speaker 1: far as the College Football Playoff National Championship game is
Speaker 1: now determined, gonna be nore Dame in Ohio, State. They
Speaker 1: also got Wildcar Weekend going down this weekend, the Rams
Speaker 1: had to move there Monday night matchup with the Vikings
Speaker 1: to Phoenix.
Speaker 3: Glendale technically, but yeah, there's on.
Speaker 2: The Cardinal Stadium, which is ironically State Farm Arena, which
Speaker 2: is pretty evil if you think about it, because State
Speaker 2: Farm disavowed a lot of people's fire insurance and then
Speaker 2: the whole city burned down, or at least the outer
Speaker 2: limits of the city burnt down. And now there are
Speaker 2: people who literally put their whole lives into a house
Speaker 2: and the only thing they were looking forward to was
Speaker 2: a Rams game at so Far instead, So now you
Speaker 2: got to sell those tickets to hopefully get some money
Speaker 2: to probably get a generator.
Speaker 3: So you know, you and your family are somewhere to
Speaker 3: lay or be.
Speaker 2: And it's at State Farm Arena, and ironically the Rams
Speaker 2: they could very well beat the Vikings ironically. So yeah,
Speaker 2: it's interesting, very interesting times.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So outside of that, I mean, just to wrap up
Speaker 1: the NFL season, I mean, we talked about it last
Speaker 1: week with the Seahawks missed the playoffs with ten wins,
Speaker 1: even beating the Rams in the final game meaningless game.
Speaker 1: The Bengals needed the Chiefs to beat the Broncos to
Speaker 1: have a chance to get in. And well, the Chiefs
Speaker 1: got molliwop because they basically rested most of their starters.
Speaker 1: And yeah, the Bengals didn't get in and they felt
Speaker 1: talty about it, but that's the way goes.
Speaker 3: What else happened last week? The All Pro team came out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Leanna Williams didn't make the All Pro Team or
Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl.
Speaker 2: Well do you have like what eight dexame sacks or something? Yeah,
Speaker 2: and he had like two defensive touchdowns. I mean, don't
Speaker 2: go to read off the list. I mean you can
Speaker 2: if you want. People could just look it up.
Speaker 3: Rock Powers made All Pro as a rookie.
Speaker 1: I mean he broke dead cuz eighty year record and
Speaker 1: the catch record.
Speaker 2: Finally, I'm in Ron Sak Brown's gets stepped that All
Speaker 2: Pro Jamar Chase, justin Jefferson, I'm in Ron Saint Brown.
Speaker 2: It's kind of hard to disagree with that.
Speaker 3: We also got.
Speaker 2: Tristan Wurbs, We got Lamar Saquan Patrick recrd Joe Thuney
Speaker 2: for the Chiefs, Creed Humphrey, Quinn Minnards for the Denver Broncos.
Speaker 2: Penaisawell got First team All Pro over Lane Johnson. Ed
Speaker 2: rushers were Miles Garrett, Cam Hayward got it at d
Speaker 2: tackle Chris Jones. Those two got it over the Williams.
Speaker 2: Miles Garrett Trey Hendrickson were the two ed rushers. A
Speaker 2: linebackers Zach Bond, Fred Warner, Rokwan Smith corners, Patrick Satan
Speaker 2: the second, Derek Stingley Junior. Finally, they have a slot position.
Speaker 2: They have a slot quarterback position, which confused the hell
Speaker 2: out of me because usually it's just three or four corners,
Speaker 2: but Marlon Humphrey was the slot corner. First team All Pro,
Speaker 2: Kirby Joseph Xavier McKinney. They were the top interception getters
Speaker 2: at safety, Kirby Joseph being the first because he had nine.
Speaker 2: Chris Boswell for the Steelers, All Pro kicker, Jack Punter
Speaker 2: for the Lions, Cavante Turpin Dallas. That dude's a magician
Speaker 2: with the football in his hands.
Speaker 3: Returning. MARKT.
Speaker 2: Madhams Junior was the pump returner. Brandon Brendan's schooler was
Speaker 2: an All Pro special teamer for New England. And Andrew
Speaker 2: Depaola is a long snapper. Second team offense, we got
Speaker 2: Josh Allen, Derrick, Henry Cole, Juice Chick, George Kittle, Ty McClaren, Ceedee,
Speaker 2: lamb aj Brown, Jordan Mylotta at left tackle, Quentin Nelson
Speaker 2: mister Notre Dame, Frank Ragnall for Detroit. If you didn't know,
Speaker 2: Quentin Nelson plays for the Colts. Chris Lindstrom for Atlanta
Speaker 2: at right guard. Lane Johnson got second team All Pro
Speaker 2: right tackle second team. Ironically, there's an asterix.
Speaker 3: I think it's a tie. I guess, I don't know.
Speaker 3: That's weird. T J Watt, Nick Benito. T J. Watt
Speaker 3: out of.
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh, Nick Benito for diver. He had a career year,
Speaker 2: Raiders passed on him. Andrew Rankinkle had another crew year
Speaker 2: in Minnesota.
Speaker 3: Material alignment. So Zach Allen for the.
Speaker 2: Denver Broncos was the second team All Pro. That's very interesting,
Speaker 2: so I guess that answer. Jerymner Williams question.
Speaker 3: Bobby Wagner.
Speaker 2: And Zaire Franklin where the second team All Pro linebackers,
Speaker 2: Which is wild because Bobby Wagner is an All Pro
Speaker 2: in like year fifteen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, crazy, especially because the last three years he had
Speaker 1: a ways just kind of bounced around.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but he was still productive. That's the crazy thing.
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 2: So here's what might pish you off for trigger you.
Speaker 2: So second team corner All Pro, Trip McDuffie, Kansas City Chiefs. Yes,
Speaker 2: the Raiders passed on him. Christian Gonzales, New England Patriots,
Speaker 2: second team All Pro. The guy who went. He fell
Speaker 2: to seventeenth overall. He was considered one of the best
Speaker 2: corners in that draft. He went at seventeen. You want
Speaker 2: to know who the Raiders took that year, Tyree Wilson
Speaker 2: at seven. It's Tyree Wilson at All Pro. They've had
Speaker 2: the same amount of years, the same amount of time,
Speaker 2: and Christian goan Zales got hurt his rookie year. It
Speaker 2: didn't even play the whole year. So yeah, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: just leave y'all with that.
Speaker 3: Raider Nation.
Speaker 2: Also, Uh, slot cornerback Derwin James. That's interesting because I'm
Speaker 2: pretty sure he's the safety, but they got him at
Speaker 2: slot corner, second team All Pro. The safety's at All Pro,
Speaker 2: Kyle Hamilton and Buddha Baker. Uh, this is all the
Speaker 2: This is interesting because placekicker Brandon Aubrey from the Cowboys
Speaker 2: second team Logan Cook, Jacksonville Jaguars punter. I don't know
Speaker 2: how the hell this happened, but Austin Eckler is an
Speaker 2: All Pro this year. Guess at what position? No kick returner.
Speaker 2: I don't remember him returning a kick for a touchdown,
Speaker 2: but hey whatever, Khalif Ramon got a punt returner. He
Speaker 2: definitely returned one for a touchdown this year.
Speaker 3: J T.
Speaker 2: Gray for the Saints special teamer, which is ironic because
Speaker 2: he was on the Chargers too when he went to
Speaker 2: Baylor long snapper was rossmatistic for the Jaguars. That's your
Speaker 2: All Pro team, right there? Any real objections?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean, so that's coming out.
Speaker 2: Snoop is gonna also be at the NFL, gonna be
Speaker 2: hosting the NFL Honors, So it's gonna be very interesting
Speaker 2: this playoff season.
Speaker 1: It's funny because at this press event that they had
Speaker 1: at the CS conference, I was at one of these
Speaker 1: companies hired like an actor that looked like Snoop and
Speaker 1: like one of my covers was like, is that stupid?
Speaker 3: Is that? I was like, are you sure that's not Snoop?
Speaker 1: And they're like ah, nods, like bh bah he had
Speaker 1: the whole aesthetic, and I was like, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, his jewelry is nice, but his shoes are
Speaker 1: kind of whatever did he say color? And I was like,
Speaker 1: and honestly, I don't think Snoop would be here this earlier,
Speaker 1: at this kind of an event, and honestly, if it
Speaker 1: was Snoop, you would smell him. And honestly, that dude
Speaker 1: was like barely want to start than me. He's not
Speaker 1: six four years so yeah, I don't know, so is
Speaker 1: it kind of racist? But anyway, so the night goes
Speaker 1: on and like there's using this actor as like a
Speaker 1: you know, product spokesperson or whatever, like I don't know,
Speaker 1: celebrity ambassador. And then sure enough one of this our
Speaker 1: media friends was like, oh, I meant Snoop people showing
Speaker 1: all the selfies.
Speaker 3: Like et cetera.
Speaker 1: And then my boss is like it wasn't Snoop, Like
Speaker 1: he's like, what do you mean. He's like I talked
Speaker 1: to the guy who hired him, like he's my friend.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's an actor. They've done that before.
Speaker 1: It was just funny, but it's just crazy, Like I
Speaker 1: was calling them Snoop Bee because it's like that's his
Speaker 1: backup Snoop. I was like, that's the AI Snoop. That's
Speaker 1: not actual, the real Snoop. But you can't say Snoop
Speaker 1: Bee because that's definitely a violation. It's she's a crip,
Speaker 1: yeah for sure. But it was a play on words. No,
Speaker 1: but you literally can't say that because he's a crip. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you would get packed out if you said that
Speaker 1: in front of him anyway, you.
Speaker 3: Don't understay gang culture. You can't say that even I
Speaker 3: know what's a joke. Anyway, it was.
Speaker 2: It was a funny play on words that civilians can
Speaker 2: laugh At.
Speaker 1: The point that I was trying to make is that
Speaker 1: snoobie everywhere? So yeah, that's all I was trying to say.
Speaker 3: Didn't it feel kind of racist stuff a little bit?
Speaker 3: I mean kind of yeah, because I'm pretty sure that it's.
Speaker 2: Hard to find that dude with his skin text, his
Speaker 2: skin complexion exactly like him like that. You probably find
Speaker 2: the light skin due that he put the makeup on
Speaker 2: or somebody got like a professional makeup artisan. Now I
Speaker 2: kind of want to know how how they how fully
Speaker 2: they committed to the role. It's kind of interesting though,
Speaker 2: it's fun like that would seem like a fun thing
Speaker 2: to do. Trick people, just trick people into thinking you're
Speaker 2: rapster deep faking. Yeah, I mean there's not really many
Speaker 2: people I can I can do because like Sean Kingston's
Speaker 2: in prison and I kind of don't want to channel
Speaker 2: that energy. But I mean, yeah, speaking of prison energy,
Speaker 2: and you know, potentially being out of commission Sashaun Watson
Speaker 2: towards towards a Quillers again, he raptures the aequillers again,
Speaker 2: uh training, and now he might not play at all
Speaker 2: next season.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's better for everyone Mary because
Speaker 1: except him, I'm sure he's still going to get whatever
Speaker 1: get i mean, his contracts, guaranteed contract I'm sure he's
Speaker 1: still going to get a bulk of his money off
Speaker 1: of an injury settlement if anything. But yeah, it's better
Speaker 1: for him because, like I said, he's still gonna get
Speaker 1: his bread. And it's better for the Browns because they
Speaker 1: were probably gonna move on from him anyway, so now
Speaker 1: it just makes them that much easier to do it.
Speaker 1: And you can do it with less cap repercussions and
Speaker 1: less salary issues if you do an injury settlement. And
Speaker 1: so yeah, I think I think that's sadly, it's kind
Speaker 1: of the best case scenario for the Browns and maybe
Speaker 1: even once in depending on how he recovers and if
Speaker 1: you can ever get back.
Speaker 3: Yeah, now they have to take a quarterback.
Speaker 2: You almost have to take a quarterback and just kind
Speaker 2: of trade Watson off. I don't know where he would go,
Speaker 2: but you you have to kind of take a quarterback
Speaker 2: or Cleveland because you're just wasting Miles Garrett and you
Speaker 2: have to extend Miles Garrett.
Speaker 3: Are you gonna let Nick Chubb walk?
Speaker 2: Like you have a receiver in Jerry Judy, you have
Speaker 2: the resemblance of an offense you don't have to, Like
Speaker 2: the Browns are the one team that shouldn't have to
Speaker 2: like throw their whole organization away.
Speaker 3: Stefanski, I think is the right guy. They just had
Speaker 3: horrible luck.
Speaker 2: I don't know, like they're all the players keep getting hurt.
Speaker 2: I don't know what's up with that uh with that
Speaker 2: health science department, but stuff keeps happening. So, I mean,
Speaker 2: it comes down to it, they're gonna have to decide
Speaker 2: if they're gonna want to cut him or trade him
Speaker 2: or give this one more year. But to rupture your
Speaker 2: Achelles twice, Like that's kind of wild to have that
Speaker 2: kind of setback, Like how intensely were you training.
Speaker 3: Now? If he can come back.
Speaker 2: And it's even moderately competent as a quarterback, because this
Speaker 2: fall from Grace is crazy, like his downfall and Trevor
Speaker 2: Lawrence's downfall, Like it's kind of gonna hurt King Club.
Speaker 2: It's draft stock because Clemson QB's well, it's not looking
Speaker 2: great at all. Also, the Cowboys are open or Jerry
Speaker 2: Jones is open to giving Mike McCarthy a new contract
Speaker 2: pretty much the assistants or technically free agents, and his
Speaker 2: contract expires on Tuesday, and they apparently started talking today,
Speaker 2: So it's kind of gonna be interesting to see the
Speaker 2: end of the season. I think with a win if
Speaker 2: I'm not mistaken, but still didn't make the playoffs and
Speaker 2: they still have to pay Michael partials. Any comments on
Speaker 2: the Cowboys.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm kind of tired of talking about it. I feel
Speaker 1: like it's been an ongoing storyline online all year. I mean,
Speaker 1: Jerry's been pretty consistent that he's going to give McCarthy.
Speaker 1: It's hard to blame everything on him. Giving the injuries
Speaker 1: at quarterback. But also I don't know, he really hasn't
Speaker 1: done what he was sitting there to do either, So
Speaker 1: for me, I would have fired him, especially with some
Speaker 1: of the ways that they were losing the middle of
Speaker 1: the season.
Speaker 3: But yeah, that's just me. Well he's not the only
Speaker 3: coaches his future.
Speaker 2: But also we know somebody who's not going to be back,
Speaker 2: Tom Tolesco got fired by the Raiders, thoughts.
Speaker 1: I mean, at this point, the Raiders are now paying
Speaker 1: three gms and three head coaches for well, I'm saying
Speaker 1: right now at this point, and so when they make
Speaker 1: new hires at those positions, they'll be paying for for
Speaker 1: exactly no playoff burst and pretty much no foundation of
Speaker 1: the franchise outside of maybe Max Crosby and brought and
Speaker 1: Brock Bauers. But yeah, it's a mess right now in Vegas.
Speaker 1: I think the promising sign at least is the Raiders
Speaker 1: are getting interest with these playoff coordinators Ben Johnson, Aaron
Speaker 1: Glenn Spagnola. I think there was like two more that
Speaker 1: they were interviewing. They're also expected to interview Pete Carroll.
Speaker 1: They reached out to Bill Belichick, so it seems like
Speaker 1: at least compared to the last three hires.
Speaker 3: This seems like a much more extensive process.
Speaker 1: Already seems like the Raiders are being taken more seriously
Speaker 1: with Brady now officially in the fold. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: there's some excitement. It would have been hard to keep
Speaker 1: ap and have any excitement given that the team went win.
Speaker 3: Listening to division, you never got to pick his quarterback.
Speaker 1: I mean you could say that that's fine, but at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, he wasn't gonna win a.
Speaker 3: Super Bowl with this team. I know that. But it's
Speaker 3: like you didn't even want him last year.
Speaker 1: So for you to be to say that now, it's
Speaker 1: crazy because you didn't want him to come back last year.
Speaker 3: Letay out. But yeah, so, I.
Speaker 1: Mean, in best case scenario, he probably would have just
Speaker 1: been you know, five hundred and we would have been
Speaker 1: stuck with him another year year.
Speaker 3: So, no, he's not the guy.
Speaker 1: If you know he's not bringing the kind of culture
Speaker 1: that you want, then you got to make the move.
Speaker 1: I just hope that they don't try to do some
Speaker 1: more patriot rehash bullshit and they actually just you know,
Speaker 1: hire the best person for the job, with the best
Speaker 1: vision for the organization and not just you know, the
Speaker 1: guy that everyone wants them to hire, or the guy
Speaker 1: that they like, you know, make the best hire for
Speaker 1: the team. I think the other thing that's kind of
Speaker 1: worrying me is out there heating up the heat the
Speaker 1: coaching portion of the opening before the general manager job.
Speaker 1: That's something they also did last year, which wasn't great.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I don't know. I think they did that
Speaker 1: with Gruden too. They hired Gruden before mayok, so yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe he just hire the GM first.
Speaker 2: Or what if Ben Johnson doesn't want a GM, he
Speaker 2: just wants to work directly with Tom Brady.
Speaker 3: I don't think you. I don't think they would do that.
Speaker 3: You never know.
Speaker 4: I don't think you would. I wouldn't be certify genius,
Speaker 4: wouldn't be smart. Mathematician doesn't have anything to do with
Speaker 4: being a genius being a general Being a genius has
Speaker 4: nothing to do with managing people.
Speaker 3: Trust me.
Speaker 1: Has nothing to do with managing people, managing different departments,
Speaker 1: managing all the different things that go into being a
Speaker 1: general manager. But it would be a great mistake to
Speaker 1: make a first time head coach a first time GM two.
Speaker 1: That would be really stupid. That would be Raider esque stupid.
Speaker 3: That's why I had to break it up, because yeah,
Speaker 3: that would be really stupid. I don't think, I.
Speaker 1: Don't I don't think champ Co is going to stay.
Speaker 1: He's been a cockroach there already too long at this point.
Speaker 1: If you're not gonna hire him, when you're gonna hire him,
Speaker 1: that's painful, you that of cockroach? Well, bro, he's been
Speaker 1: through four GM regimes, like do you have to go
Speaker 1: my cockrow? So I'm just saying like he hasn't died,
Speaker 1: like he good for him, like he keeps moving. I'm
Speaker 1: not trying to take anything away from him, but he's
Speaker 1: been in the He's been in these GEMS hiring processes
Speaker 1: already like four or five times.
Speaker 2: I don't like what the Patriots are doing though, just
Speaker 2: like you're not gonna hire Byron Left, which that's why
Speaker 2: Aaron Glenn declined an interview with him. So like somebody
Speaker 2: like some of these people are just like blatantly just
Speaker 2: bastardizing the Rooney rule.
Speaker 3: And there's no punishment for it. That's the part that
Speaker 3: kind of sucks.
Speaker 2: So like a lot of these black assistants and coordinators
Speaker 2: or even just they're talented and they deserve a shot,
Speaker 2: but they're not going to get it because I still
Speaker 2: think draw Mail getting fired was pretty was pretty whack.
Speaker 3: I don't really see.
Speaker 1: What I think Male getting fired was worse than AP
Speaker 1: because one far, he had been chosen to be the
Speaker 1: coach in waiting, and they kind of said that's why
Speaker 1: he got fired because he had that in his contract,
Speaker 1: so they had to let him be the head coach,
Speaker 1: but they were always going to kind of just give
Speaker 1: him that the kick out at some point, and also
Speaker 1: he got his quarterback, and also they were competitive despite
Speaker 1: having one of the worst rosters in the league and
Speaker 1: even trading away talent in the middle of having one
Speaker 1: of the worst rosters in the league. So yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't know if like he did a good job giving
Speaker 1: what he was dealt. So yeah, I don't know. But
Speaker 1: there's also reports that he just did Wlwonkee things around
Speaker 1: the facility, like.
Speaker 3: So I don't know.
Speaker 2: I just think because something came out about Aaron Glenn
Speaker 2: and I'm like, it's always something that comes out about
Speaker 2: a black assistant coach right when they're about to get
Speaker 2: a job or after they got fired, and it's like,
Speaker 2: hold on, like none of the beat writers mentioned this,
Speaker 2: nobody said anything until right now. To me, that's kind
Speaker 2: of susn't I never liked that, Like, don't wait to
Speaker 2: like throw dirt on somebody's name after they leave. The
Speaker 2: Raiders aren't even doing that about Telesco. And he wasn't
Speaker 2: even involved in the head coaching search. So it's like
Speaker 2: like there's people whose names we get smut, Like when
Speaker 2: Bobby Patrino quit on the Falcon you could smut his name.
Speaker 3: Adam Gase you got.
Speaker 1: For Antonio Peers. I think the thing with him is
Speaker 1: he had that press conference on Monday where he was
Speaker 1: just like oh, where he was just like, well, as
Speaker 1: far as I know, I'm still the head coach, and
Speaker 1: to have her different like and just his whole tone
Speaker 1: and attitude just felt like, you know, he really thought
Speaker 1: he was going to be the coach. And I don't
Speaker 1: know what indicator he might have gotten, given he might
Speaker 1: have gotten, but at the end of the day, like
Speaker 1: he should have known better, Like he's been in this
Speaker 1: league too long as a.
Speaker 3: Player as an assistant to know that.
Speaker 1: You know, things aren't final until their fine though, you know,
Speaker 1: regardless of whatever vibe you got one day, you know
Speaker 1: they could stab you in the back and with the
Speaker 1: same hand, like, that's not news for Antonio Peers. So
Speaker 1: the fact that he got up there and did that
Speaker 1: to me felt more of like him using his leverage
Speaker 1: and his platform to be like, well, what are you
Speaker 1: gonna do?
Speaker 3: Fire me? And I don't think that was the best
Speaker 3: move in play.
Speaker 1: I think he should have downplayed it a lot more
Speaker 1: and just been a lot more humble about it. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I think he still deserves at least a
Speaker 1: shot out a coordinator role. I mean, regardless of what
Speaker 1: you want to say about the team, Like, linebackers.
Speaker 3: Played a lot better than they did without.
Speaker 1: Him, so you can't take that away from him for sure.
Speaker 1: And the defense, I mean, these past two years, this
Speaker 1: defense has been better than it hasn't, you know, two decades,
Speaker 1: So he's been a part of that as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would definitely agree that after everything he's been through,
Speaker 2: he proved like, well, you can coach linebackers, and you
Speaker 2: know who could use.
Speaker 3: Some help coaching linebackers. The Rams.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying Antonio Pierce should probably get under like
Speaker 2: the coaching tree of someone like a McVeigh to kind
Speaker 2: of revitalize I mean, Dan Quinn talked about all the
Speaker 2: stuff he did after he got fired from the Falcons
Speaker 2: to become a better coordinator and coach, and he became
Speaker 2: a better coordinator and coach as a Cowboys defensive coordinator.
Speaker 2: And look what he's doing with the Commanders. So I know,
Speaker 2: some people get taken chances and some people build a
Speaker 2: staff that's well rounded.
Speaker 3: Because if you look at the if you look.
Speaker 2: At all the people on the Commander's staff, like, okay,
Speaker 2: some of these guys are in the running to potentially
Speaker 2: become a head coach if Kingsbury could become a head
Speaker 2: coach again, so you kind of have to applaud that.
Speaker 5: All Right, you gonna talk about college football. You wanna
Speaker 5: talk about fire, Let's talk about college football, and then
Speaker 5: we talk about these fires, all right.
Speaker 3: So h.
Speaker 2: So, yeah, I was supposed to be at the Conon Bowl.
Speaker 2: Travel players are pretty much screwed. They canceled all the
Speaker 2: flights that I would have needed to even be able
Speaker 2: to get out there, which is a bummer because it
Speaker 2: would have been my first It would have been my
Speaker 2: first college football playoff. Okay, and it's the semi final,
Speaker 2: so it's the game right before the national title, but
Speaker 2: it is what it is. And I kind of felt
Speaker 2: bad about feeling bad because literally a huge portion of
Speaker 2: southern California is on fire right now, so kind of sucks.
Speaker 2: But it also just listened to this country is not
Speaker 2: ready for any type of real disaster because we just
Speaker 2: have idiots in charge. Uh, Like LA politicians are officially
Speaker 2: worse than Oakland politicians. And I'm saying that as an
Speaker 2: East oak native and some whose family like worked with
Speaker 2: the panthers and saw the rise and fall of East
Speaker 2: and West Oakland. And I've lived out here long enough,
Speaker 2: and my mom lived through the watch riots, so it's
Speaker 2: like to see what's happening with the weather. Like in Texas,
Speaker 2: the storm lifted earlier tonight, but a lot of people
Speaker 2: couldn't even get in. If you didn't like leave at
Speaker 2: the beginning of the week, you probably didn't get to Texas.
Speaker 2: But it's also like.
Speaker 3: That that didn't hinder Texas and Ohio State.
Speaker 2: They played a great game for the most part. Quen
Speaker 2: Ewers played like shit, there's no way he's going into
Speaker 2: the draft now because you can't play that bad, and
Speaker 2: then just declared for the NFL Draft. He's gonna take
Speaker 2: it back to some of the college because there's no
Speaker 2: way Arch Manning isn't starting next year. You can't look
Speaker 2: at what queen Ewers. Queen Ewers had an NFL offense,
Speaker 2: NFL left tackle, great running backs, Alfred Blue pretty much
Speaker 2: kept them in the game. Uh they literally ran a
Speaker 2: toss sweep on the goal line. I couldn't believe it.
Speaker 2: They were a toss sweep on second goal. They got
Speaker 2: like three pass interference calls. They got like three flags
Speaker 2: in the row Texas did on the goal line versus
Speaker 2: Ohio State. And Ohio State's defense stood up like they've
Speaker 2: been doing all year and held their nuts and uh
Speaker 2: got like they that toss sweep was like a seven
Speaker 2: yard loss. So it was like it was like the
Speaker 2: fourth and goal from the seven when they were on
Speaker 2: the one yard line and Jack Sawyer, mister Bluckeye himself,
Speaker 2: gets a strip sack, picks up the ball like the
Speaker 2: ball bounced perfectly into his hands. It was like the
Speaker 2: greatest river seen it was, and then he took it
Speaker 2: eighty three yards to the house. That was game ceiling touchdown.
Speaker 2: Ohio State wins twenty eight to fourteen. In the first half.
Speaker 2: It was it was like seven to seven. Texas scored
Speaker 2: real quick, and then right before the half, Henderson, the
Speaker 2: running back for Ohio State, had a seventy five yard
Speaker 2: touchdown catch and run. They were like in prevent and
Speaker 2: they ran a screen. Tim Kelly called a screen and
Speaker 2: Henderson pretty much took that shit seventy five yards to
Speaker 2: the house right before halftime, fourteen to seven. Ohio State
Speaker 2: just kept taking all the momentum back versus Texas. And
Speaker 2: remember this is a team that lost and was disinterested
Speaker 2: even playing in the Cotton Bowl last year against Missou
Speaker 2: and they lost and it chilled. They were unmotivated, they
Speaker 2: were undisciplined. The defense was great, but they literally had
Speaker 2: no offense because all their best players are transferred.
Speaker 3: It was bad. And now fast forward a year later
Speaker 3: that you.
Speaker 2: Know the skin of the game, even though Notre Dame
Speaker 2: beat pinned State because Penn State pissed down their leg
Speaker 2: again like James Franklin always does in big games. But shit,
Speaker 2: he won a playoff game, so you kind of gotta
Speaker 2: get off his head. Uh, he was one game away
Speaker 2: from a national title, and I think people gotta really
Speaker 2: get off James Franklin's head about that did your team
Speaker 2: win a playoff game? Oh they didn't, All right, then
Speaker 2: shut up, you're not allowed to speak. Dan Lanning still
Speaker 2: hasn't won a playoff game yet, and he had arguably
Speaker 2: what looked like the best roster in college football next
Speaker 2: to Ohio State.
Speaker 3: He had he had.
Speaker 2: He got Bo Knicks, and then he got Dylan Gabriel,
Speaker 2: and then he got some elite South Carolina transfers. So
Speaker 2: it's like the fact that he couldn't do it. Ohio
Speaker 2: State is just a team with destiny at this point. Well,
Speaker 2: Howard just doesn't just has to make sure he doesn't
Speaker 2: screw it up, because honestly, he almost did.
Speaker 3: He did a really bad pick.
Speaker 2: Jeremiah Smith only had one catch for three yards the
Speaker 2: whole game. They made sure his ass didn't go off.
Speaker 2: They bracketed him with safeties and corners. But you know,
Speaker 2: everybody else on the team, Junkins had two rushing touchdowns.
Speaker 2: Ohio State's running backs scored all the touchdowns, and then
Speaker 2: Jack Sawyer put it away with the eighty three yard
Speaker 2: sacked from a recovery for a touchdown. Yeah, so it's
Speaker 2: gonna be Notre Dame versus Ohio State for the National
Speaker 2: Championship next week. Talk about Notre Dame. Penn State, Yeah,
Speaker 2: pretty much. Riley Leonard played better. Drewilard played like shit,
Speaker 2: but washing up against Boise State. If you watched Jeweler,
Speaker 2: you knew he's not the guy Penn State's had.
Speaker 3: Like the same dude that quarterback for the past twenty years.
Speaker 3: Good but not good enough. Even though he's better than Hackenberg.
Speaker 2: He's like the best Penn State quarterback of this era
Speaker 2: as far as like pro prospects goes. But that's why
Speaker 2: I'm glad he's coming back for another year because he's
Speaker 2: not ready. They he made some costing mistakes and Penn
Speaker 2: State should have put that game away in regulation. But
Speaker 2: Abdul Carter played great. He's definitely a top five pick.
Speaker 2: That man was playing. He was he's playing injured and
Speaker 2: was still whooping feet. But Notre Dame was a better team.
Speaker 2: Notre Dame. This is definitely gonna be another great game.
Speaker 2: Texas has a great offense, but Quinn you is just
Speaker 2: Stake Brown and he gets he just gets razzled. But
Speaker 2: Texas old arm is getting whooped and then you got
Speaker 2: a factor in. I just think Ohio State is the
Speaker 2: most complete team in the country.
Speaker 3: They were.
Speaker 2: They kind of just disproved like they were tough than
Speaker 2: the Oregon So yeah, I think I think Ohio State
Speaker 2: wins by like seventeen against Notre Dame because they're gonna
Speaker 2: expose Ridley Linard. This is either gonna be a close
Speaker 2: game or Ohio State's gonna run away with it.
Speaker 3: And I know Notre Dame has a great.
Speaker 2: Defense, like an NFL defense, But it's crazy that a
Speaker 2: former Ohio State linebacker is the head coach at Notre Dame,
Speaker 2: a black man, and then they threw out, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: he's black in Korean too. I was like, bro, I said,
Speaker 2: y'all love doing this shit. Were you talked about him
Speaker 2: being Korean at any time the whole time been a
Speaker 2: Notre Dame. Did you talk about him being black in
Speaker 2: Korean when he was at Ohio State and a captain?
Speaker 2: You didn't, right, Okay? I always want to throw in
Speaker 2: that wedge. I love it when they want to. Just
Speaker 2: it's like when people say, oh, Colamer, he's a great
Speaker 2: Korean quarterback. I'm like, dog, if he wasn't black, do
Speaker 2: you think he still would be in the NFL? Or
Speaker 2: is it clear that one side of his family got
Speaker 2: all the athletic genetics and that's why his little tiny
Speaker 2: asses in the league.
Speaker 3: And that's not even hate.
Speaker 2: That's just like, yeah, there's not a history of Asian
Speaker 2: quarterbacks in the NFL, pure blooded Asian quarterbacks.
Speaker 3: So like when people want to throw oh, he's black.
Speaker 2: And he's Asian, I'm like, hold on, y'all, don't even
Speaker 2: culturally like claiming black people like that. Don't claim us.
Speaker 2: Don't claim it when it benefits you. And oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: he's in the National Title. He could be the first Asian.
Speaker 2: He don't. Don't Kamala Harris me with that shit. I
Speaker 2: don't like that. I really don't like that. It really,
Speaker 2: it really annoys me because it's like, if the cops
Speaker 2: pull him over, he can't say he's Asian and get
Speaker 2: out the ticket. It will yank his black ass out
Speaker 2: the car and do damage. Then, Like people love playing
Speaker 2: stupid until bad shit happens to you. And that's why
Speaker 2: I don't feel bad when bad shit happens to people
Speaker 2: who make those fakes arguments. It's like, no, you deserved
Speaker 2: it because you were you were being intellectually dishonest and
Speaker 2: you knew it. And a lot of people are gonna
Speaker 2: start being inst us he's dishonest. They're gonna it's just
Speaker 2: they're gonna make they made that whole shit about Oh well,
Speaker 2: James Franco. Now why I keep saying James Fraco, James Franklin,
Speaker 2: and Marcus Freeman, whoever wins a black head coach is
Speaker 2: gonna get to the college football playoffs?
Speaker 3: Like, h.
Speaker 2: That's not even how you broach the subject. This man
Speaker 2: has been at Penn State, what almost fifteen years.
Speaker 3: It's been.
Speaker 2: He's been at Penn State a very long time, highly successful.
Speaker 2: Like there's ways because like a reporter tried to catch, like,
Speaker 2: misquoted Marcus Freeman when he was talking about race, and
Speaker 2: Freeman had to check him, and then the you know, the.
Speaker 3: Team came out and it's like, oh yeah, you did
Speaker 3: try to misquote this dude.
Speaker 2: And that's why I like when white reporters ask questions
Speaker 2: about race. It just kind of pisses me off because
Speaker 2: it's like, bro, you don't even probably talk to all
Speaker 2: the black reporters in this press box, and there's probably
Speaker 2: only like four of us in here. Like I don't
Speaker 2: like hearing white journalists ask questions about race to black
Speaker 2: people to where black people have to explain and define
Speaker 2: their blackness and humanity.
Speaker 3: It's like, maybe you should.
Speaker 2: Flip that and ask yourself, as a white person who's
Speaker 2: a journalist, why do I feel the need to like
Speaker 2: other a head coach and like make up a qualification,
Speaker 2: Like can't you just say he's a great head coach. Yes,
Speaker 2: he's a black man. He could potentially be the first
Speaker 2: black man to make a won a national title. But
Speaker 2: to like, when you do it, then there's two black coaches.
Speaker 2: It's like when it was Tony Dungee and Lovey Smith
Speaker 2: when they had that going. It's like, bro, some of
Speaker 2: these underbears, some of y'all are just writing articles at
Speaker 2: clickbait and you're parenting to a racist crowd when you
Speaker 2: ask these questions, and it's not a genuine question when
Speaker 2: you ask it.
Speaker 3: So some of that came out this week.
Speaker 2: But yeah, uh Ryan Day, Marcus Freeman ironic because you know,
Speaker 2: Marcus Freeman was a captain of Ohio State. And now
Speaker 2: even though mind you all those tiktoks that all those
Speaker 2: notre dame players are doing, yes, they're corny as shit,
Speaker 2: because it's like, wait, y'all finally got black people at
Speaker 2: Notre Dame from a different socio economic class and status,
Speaker 2: and they acting like everybody else, and they did the
Speaker 2: get the Gat dance all wrong. I was like, you
Speaker 2: got too many light skinned kids on that roster. They
Speaker 2: don't They only know half of the dance.
Speaker 3: That's the problem. But nah, all juxu aside, that was
Speaker 3: actually a real thing. It's all over that.
Speaker 2: Like some of them dudes were just doing horrible dances
Speaker 2: in the locker room postgame, and I'm like, see, this
Speaker 2: is why we hate you, Notre Dame. This is why
Speaker 2: we hate you. Some people are like, we remember Catholics
Speaker 2: versus convicts. So like a lot of people are gonna
Speaker 2: be rooting for Ohio State.
Speaker 3: They just are.
Speaker 2: But I think Hog State has the edge in this
Speaker 2: national title game coming up next week, and I think
Speaker 2: they're gonna win it. I guess I'm gonna say like
Speaker 2: thirty one to seventeen. But uh, the quarterback for Georgia
Speaker 2: Beck he decided to undeclare himself for the NFL draft,
Speaker 2: hopping a transfer portal, and now he's enrolled at the
Speaker 2: University of Miami so he can spend time with his girlfriend.
Speaker 3: One of the Cavender Twins. I don't remember which one.
Speaker 2: Because I don't really give a shit because I know
Speaker 2: more about them from social media than I do their
Speaker 2: actual hooping skills, even though like one of them can
Speaker 2: actually hoop, and they were hooping at Fresno State. But
Speaker 2: ever since then, they've just been social media starlet's. You know, well,
Speaker 2: people like Kaitlyn Clark are actually out there getting fucking buckets,
Speaker 2: and Hayley van Lyz, even though she has athletic limitations,
Speaker 2: even she's out here getting buckets. But yeah, USC lost
Speaker 2: another recruit they lost. That's another plays to the portal,
Speaker 2: Emmanuel Pregnant who originally had like a Senior Bowl invite,
Speaker 2: but now he's hopping in the portal. He's about to
Speaker 2: get a bag from some school before he goes off
Speaker 2: to the NFL.
Speaker 3: Crazy. He went for Wyoming the USC, and like I think.
Speaker 2: He probably got like a second or third maybe somewhere
Speaker 2: between the second and fourth thrond grade. But if you're
Speaker 2: an agent, his agent's a LEGITFL agent probably told him,
Speaker 2: you know, you can probably get like three million if
Speaker 2: you stick around for warmer year in college.
Speaker 3: You can get guaranteed money to play.
Speaker 2: It's funny how like Nil's pretty much made it where
Speaker 2: you're in ty roster just all free agents, so that's
Speaker 2: going to be very interesting going forward. US she's still
Speaker 2: looking for a general manager. Juju's the only thing keeping
Speaker 2: the lights on over there. Let's just keep it a being.
Speaker 2: USC's having problems with donors, and yeah, it's not looking
Speaker 2: too great, but they did get a center from Syracuse
Speaker 2: and an offensive lineman who played at Purdue and he
Speaker 2: also transferred from He was at el Comedo College, so
Speaker 2: salute to him. He was like Elko and he ended
Speaker 2: up at Purdue and now he's at USC. So they
Speaker 2: at least have their starting offensive line next year. I think,
Speaker 2: I'm I think they don't really miss anything else as
Speaker 2: far as college football.
Speaker 3: Dudes, what has been on fire this week? That's about it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, it's definitely been an interesting.
Speaker 3: Week, but.
Speaker 1: Came Yeah, so uh take or tangent. Let's just start
Speaker 1: with the whole Fox Sports lawsuit and team.
Speaker 2: I don't know how much I can even talk about
Speaker 2: because I know people who work there, So I'm gonna
Speaker 2: just put the mic down and let you cook.
Speaker 3: This is your thing? Did I I wrote that? No?
Speaker 3: But this is what you've been talking about all week? Yeah,
Speaker 3: off the record to you, you know, you don't.
Speaker 1: Talk about anything like that's low key or that's not
Speaker 1: out there. I just say this, man, you're just trying
Speaker 1: to make it sound like you got more tee than
Speaker 1: you do. Bro, like nobody's really.
Speaker 3: Checking for like that. Yeah, but I'm not gonna put
Speaker 3: You're not You're not the fucking per sports media.
Speaker 1: I'm glad I'm not getting like, trust me, come down
Speaker 1: your pedestal.
Speaker 2: No, it's not a pedestal. It's just I don't even
Speaker 2: want to jump in those waters. You dig sometimes you
Speaker 2: don't jump those waters. But I will say this, because
Speaker 2: you've been.
Speaker 3: Bitching about it all week. What do you mean you
Speaker 3: don't want to get in those waters? You know, I've
Speaker 3: been laughing at it all week. Here's my thing.
Speaker 2: People fuck and screw around and do destructive ship anywhere
Speaker 2: they're at, but especially the workplace. It's like seventy percent
Speaker 2: of people who are married, like a lot, like seventy
Speaker 2: places of workplace affairs. Seventy percent of affairs apparently happen
Speaker 2: at work or some shit like that. It's some crazy
Speaker 2: it's high number. So the Fox Sports thing doesn't surprise
Speaker 2: me because people have had their dark stories about that
Speaker 2: place for a very long time now, and they either
Speaker 2: don't talk about it, or they do talk about it,
Speaker 2: or they get far away and they act like it
Speaker 2: never happened. So this whole Fox Sports Joy Taylor shit
Speaker 2: and the fact that Keishan decided Keishan goofy as hell?
Speaker 3: Is he really out here?
Speaker 2: He was standing so far away from Joy and then
Speaker 2: he like swings up like he mimics swinging a baseball bat,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, dog, it's not even baseball season. Like
Speaker 2: it was just so funny, like you get. And then
Speaker 2: Acho fucked up on TV this week, so everybody was like, damn,
Speaker 2: he's cracking under pressure. They deleted a video that he
Speaker 2: was talking about Joy Taylor picking her up, and it's
Speaker 2: just like it's just look a real messy.
Speaker 3: And that lawsuit, which is a class actual lawsuit.
Speaker 2: I feel bad for everybody who pays for like Fox
Speaker 2: or Fox Sports and their in their cable package because
Speaker 2: you know, those lawsuits are gonna cause, uh, the prices
Speaker 2: that channel to go up if you're paying for it.
Speaker 2: But yeah, lawsuit comes out, Skip Bayless is in it.
Speaker 2: Colin coward ironically was totally professional. Skip was doing nasty
Speaker 2: shit harassment this makeup artist who have been there like
Speaker 2: over ten years. But again it's nothing that we haven't
Speaker 2: heard before. So like the real question is is the
Speaker 2: dude who's like the head of the talent over there,
Speaker 2: is he gonna get fired?
Speaker 3: Is he gonna happen to him?
Speaker 2: Because if something happens to Dick Charlie Dixon, then that's
Speaker 2: when you're gonna see everything else move or implode and
Speaker 2: go to shit.
Speaker 1: I just think it's funny to me because this is
Speaker 1: probably the most we've talked about Fox Sports, and god
Speaker 1: knows how long since I.
Speaker 2: Talked about the one time I got an internship there.
Speaker 2: Boy wasn't allowed to do it. Shout out to see something.
Speaker 1: I'm not even just talking about we, I'm talking about
Speaker 1: in general the culture. Yeah, the mass is like nobody's
Speaker 1: checking for Fox Sports like that.
Speaker 2: Like Shannon had beef with Skip, Skip had beef with everybody.
Speaker 2: It's just crazy because you still got a beef with
Speaker 2: stephen A.
Speaker 3: It's crazy to me because it sucks because like.
Speaker 1: This just reiterates the stereotypes that a lot of people
Speaker 1: already think, just as far as some of these personalities,
Speaker 1: some of these people on TV, how they got to
Speaker 1: their status, it's just just reaffirms that for a lot
Speaker 1: of people.
Speaker 3: And you know, me being.
Speaker 1: Around sports media for such a long time and having
Speaker 1: a lot of friends that still you know, do it
Speaker 1: full time. I feel for them because I know how
Speaker 1: hard they work and I know how bad they want
Speaker 1: to ability and these people that have it, you know,
Speaker 1: can't get out of their own way.
Speaker 3: No, they're purposely fucking around and abusing the rules. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And also it's just it's a product of these places environment.
Speaker 1: Like it's not exclusive to just Fox Sports. You know,
Speaker 1: NFL Network had their own thing before, ESPN has had
Speaker 1: their own things before. Like this has been kind of
Speaker 1: commonplace in the sports network world, sadly. And it sucks because,
Speaker 1: like the job is already hard enough, the benefits already
Speaker 1: suck enough. You're really just doing it out of passion
Speaker 1: and perks and just to do it for all for
Speaker 1: that and then just see someone else get leaf frogged
Speaker 1: above you for whatever reason. And oh yeah, by the way,
Speaker 1: they have the nerve to go on air and be
Speaker 1: self right, just act like they've gotten everything out the mud.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh, and then they cancel their podcast with Taylor.
Speaker 1: There's no there's no way you can get that reputation back.
Speaker 2: And you already is like, oh, yeah, you're only here
Speaker 2: because of your brother's name. Yeah, you kind of kind
Speaker 2: of set yourself back here. And then when you say, oh,
Speaker 2: if I got caught, I would have just said he
Speaker 2: raped me.
Speaker 3: Women like that.
Speaker 2: Give other women and other victims a very bad name,
Speaker 2: like and she's there's like evidence out there for like
Speaker 2: Acho and her made for each other clearly because everybody
Speaker 2: knows Acho's a snake.
Speaker 3: Marcella's Wiley's talked about it, like and.
Speaker 2: Then when he does some stupid ass conversations with white people,
Speaker 2: like he solving racism, but he wants to talk about
Speaker 2: black people.
Speaker 3: Here from Nigeria.
Speaker 2: If I woke up in Nigeria tomorrow, I probably fucking
Speaker 2: killed myself, like not even respectfully, like for real, for real, Like,
Speaker 2: let's just keep that of being like you can't come,
Speaker 2: you can't come to America, get all the benefits, and
Speaker 2: then ship on the people who built the descendants of
Speaker 2: the people who built the fucking country and act like
Speaker 2: you're better than everybody when literally I could drop sixty
Speaker 2: thousand on your village and make everybody rich, like like
Speaker 2: minimum wage money here for me would go a long
Speaker 2: way in your village. So let's calm the fuck down,
Speaker 2: like you and your brother were ass in the NFL.
Speaker 3: But hey, you know it.
Speaker 2: Just shows you, like a lot of these TVs a
Speaker 2: fake place. Trust me, I know. I write I write
Speaker 2: copy for TV.
Speaker 3: I see this.
Speaker 2: That's why it's like when you see stories like this
Speaker 2: and you see why people got pushed out. And I've
Speaker 2: even just this past this Bowl season just seeing people
Speaker 2: at like holiday parties and and like Shin Diggs for
Speaker 2: college football or whatever, and seeing people like everybody there's
Speaker 2: people who have horror stories. Like I think some of
Speaker 2: the shit I've been through in the profession is pretty shitty,
Speaker 2: and it is to an extent, but I know people
Speaker 2: who are like scarred and still getting therapy for some
Speaker 2: shit they went through that Like there's just no way
Speaker 2: to get justice for you unless you kill that person.
Speaker 2: Cause it's like people who are powerful enough will abuse
Speaker 2: it and abuse everybody underneath them. And then once you
Speaker 2: created a culture of just abusing your power and abusing
Speaker 2: everybody underneath you, well then people are just gonna cut
Speaker 2: each other's throats. And also, yeah, this is an unwritten
Speaker 2: rule if you work in TV or anything like that,
Speaker 2: don't be fucking around with the makeup artists because guess what,
Speaker 2: the makeup artists know everything and they really do have
Speaker 2: all the leverage if you try to fucking break bad
Speaker 2: or be weird or try to be a sexual predator
Speaker 2: in there, like you just just don't fucking do it.
Speaker 2: But people are always gonna do it. They're always people
Speaker 2: are always gonna fuck and cheat and do whatever. That's
Speaker 2: never gonna go away. But like when you see y'all
Speaker 2: are getting paid all this money and you fucking around,
Speaker 2: you treated it like it's worth not even a frat house.
Speaker 2: You're treating it like it's a fucking bath house. That's
Speaker 2: embarrassing to be associated with that, but it happens every
Speaker 2: day in corporate America.
Speaker 3: It's all nasty work, all right.
Speaker 1: Some other news that developed this week, the Chargers signed
Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elliott to their pack squad.
Speaker 3: Take your Tangent? Can he?
Speaker 2: I feel like I want you to go first because
Speaker 2: I want to see how you feel about that.
Speaker 3: Did you cry? Did you cry your pillow?
Speaker 1: Did you cry too and one, I'm pretty sure I
Speaker 1: called it last week when we were talking about it
Speaker 1: after he got released.
Speaker 3: Two, I think it's a perfect fit for him want
Speaker 3: to do.
Speaker 1: And yeah, it doesn't hurt that it's a high state
Speaker 1: Michigan roster. But I'm not gonna get too excited until
Speaker 1: he actually make sure the fifty three roster and is
Speaker 1: actually active, which they say there's a good chance what
Speaker 1: happened because Dobbins might not.
Speaker 3: Play and Edwards hurt too.
Speaker 1: Edwards was practicing though, so it looks like Edwards is
Speaker 1: gonna start mm hmmm, say Flowers isn't playing in his game.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, I'm happy for Zeke. He got
Speaker 1: to go to a playoff contender. Like I said, it's
Speaker 1: a scheme that fits fits him. It'll be a good,
Speaker 1: good addition both as a pass blocker and and a runner.
Speaker 1: So you saw what they did with Dobbins and see
Speaker 1: what they can do with Zeke. Yeah, I mean, I
Speaker 1: think why not he deserves one playoff push.
Speaker 3: I think he's like, I think he's like, uh, pretty close.
Speaker 2: He's high up there in the all time touchdown list
Speaker 2: for the Cowboys. He's pretty high up there. If he's
Speaker 2: not first, he's pretty close.
Speaker 3: Say what you just said again, it could it's still
Speaker 3: still cutting out. How about now you're good.
Speaker 2: He's had like an historic career with the Cowboys, and
Speaker 2: like he's technically top five and all time touchdowns pretty close,
Speaker 2: and to think like, yeah, I'm glad Jerry cut him.
Speaker 2: So he's like, hey man, you go try to get
Speaker 2: a ring. That's cool. And then hardballs like shit will
Speaker 2: take you.
Speaker 3: I still got from playing him. I remember what you did, Tobama.
Speaker 3: Somebody does.
Speaker 2: We got an elite offensive line. So I feel like
Speaker 2: Harball just wakes up. He just he probably doesn't listen
Speaker 2: to Draco the Ruler, but there's probably like if you
Speaker 2: had to just look at his coaching style and how
Speaker 2: he attacks teams, it's like if I could pick a sentence,
Speaker 2: if I could pick a bar describing him, it would
Speaker 2: just be like something about violence just makes me excited.
Speaker 3: That's Jim Harbaugh's coaching style. All right, Moving on, So m.
Speaker 1: Jordan Love from Bakersfield, Josh Allen from Bakersfield, Sam Donald's
Speaker 1: from southern California, Jayden Daniels is from a E.
Speaker 3: Bernardino.
Speaker 2: So between technically I'm asking, is it technically part of
Speaker 2: the IE.
Speaker 3: Yeah for sure. Really yeah, I just thought it was proper. No,
Speaker 3: that's how you proper. I thought it was its own world.
Speaker 3: I mean it is.
Speaker 1: There's parts of Sambordino that aren't part of the IE,
Speaker 1: but Sambardino proper is definitely part of the I keep
Speaker 1: forgetting that Samoro is like the biggest country county in
Speaker 1: the United States by like space.
Speaker 3: Which is weird because ship there. And C. J.
Speaker 1: Stroud is also from you know, California. And then Bryce
Speaker 1: I forget, where's Herbert from?
Speaker 3: Bryce Young? Herberts from Oregon. Herbert's from Oregon, purebred Oregon.
Speaker 3: And uh, Bryce youngs from Russell Wilson. We're not talking
Speaker 3: about Bryce Young.
Speaker 1: He was trying to set up a fucking I'm trying
Speaker 1: to set up a fucking Take Her Dangers.
Speaker 3: Can I give some love to all the ie?
Speaker 1: Corter, No, you can't, damn the one time I want
Speaker 1: to know you can't. It's crazy anyways. So yeah, six
Speaker 1: of the twelve teams playing on World Card Weekend have
Speaker 1: a quarterback from California. Take Her tangent on California QBS.
Speaker 2: Unlike Joey Badass, the West is up by the way,
Speaker 2: if Mike Shanoda has to throw a dits Wow, if
Speaker 2: Mike Shanoda has to throw a dish track at you
Speaker 2: and it's better than your dis track, you should probably
Speaker 2: never rap again.
Speaker 3: But yeah, Cali's where the quarterbacks are.
Speaker 1: It's funny because it's funny like you, like you said,
Speaker 1: it's great to see California get some shine in that
Speaker 1: that way. It's also crazy because I saw another graphic
Speaker 1: that basically showed the western part of the United States
Speaker 1: hasn't won a national championship since basically USC.
Speaker 3: In two thousand and four. But here you are with
Speaker 3: six homegrown NFL level quarterbacks and then you have another
Speaker 3: two in Bo Nicks and Justin Herbert who played at Oregon.
Speaker 1: I mean even Russell Wilson and Baker Mayfield played at
Speaker 1: the West Coast at at one point in their careers.
Speaker 3: Nix is from auburnon.
Speaker 1: So yeah, man, it's just crazy, like crazy. The West
Speaker 1: Coast is really just better for qbs.
Speaker 3: I don't know, like you almost you almost have.
Speaker 1: To go through the West Coast to be a successful
Speaker 1: quarterback at this point because even if you're not from
Speaker 1: there and you're not playing college is there. You're probably
Speaker 1: training with one of QB, one of these QB gurus,
Speaker 1: or one of these QB programs NA seasons. All right,
Speaker 1: So just to make this a little interesting for touchdown
Speaker 1: and turnover. We all know Kenny U does not bet
Speaker 1: but and cannot legally bet.
Speaker 3: I just want to know who you like. What are
Speaker 3: your picks? You got?
Speaker 1: The Chargers this week favored by three on the road
Speaker 1: in Houston.
Speaker 3: Touchdown and turnover Chargers being favored on the road.
Speaker 2: This game is messy because most of these teams have
Speaker 2: tendencies to play like shit. This could be another Bears
Speaker 2: Texans game. Could be slow and really pick up in
Speaker 2: the second half. That's what I'm thinking.
Speaker 3: But say Stroud hasn't really had a good game all year.
Speaker 1: I mean at least in the powers like six or
Speaker 1: seven weeks, like definitely not the second half of.
Speaker 2: The So it's like it's hard to even judge this
Speaker 2: game because like, okay, I mean I would give the
Speaker 2: Chargers y edge.
Speaker 3: I think they have the.
Speaker 2: Better offensive line on Tunsul's the best left tackle. I
Speaker 2: just I think the Chargers should win it. But the
Speaker 2: last time they were in the playoffs, they blew a
Speaker 2: thirty point lead, so at home, at home, and the
Speaker 2: coach that beat them is fired.
Speaker 3: So yeah, Trevor Lawrence a coach killing.
Speaker 1: So some people are saying, yeah, I don't know. I mean,
Speaker 1: I like the Chargers in this game. I think they
Speaker 1: should win it. The way they play. They control the
Speaker 1: ball with the running game, they got a good pass rush.
Speaker 1: You talked about their own line. The receivers have stepped
Speaker 1: up in many plays, although they've also had games where
Speaker 1: they've had letdowns.
Speaker 3: So I kind of want to pay Houston because they have.
Speaker 1: But they're also going on the road, so I think
Speaker 1: that's that's the edge for me playing in a different
Speaker 1: time zone, playing on I think they're playing on Saturday
Speaker 1: or Sunday Saturday, so.
Speaker 3: Yeah, playing on a Saturday. Yeah, I don't know. It's hard.
Speaker 1: It's hard for me to just, you know, feel comfortable
Speaker 1: taking three points, which is really six when you're on
Speaker 1: the road.
Speaker 2: So I kind of want to take the Chargers for
Speaker 2: the sheer fact of like Demigo's, Ryan's team just keeps
Speaker 2: letting him down.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the other side of it. Like they do
Speaker 3: some ship where it's like, why did you do that?
Speaker 3: You didn't have to do that all right.
Speaker 1: The Bills are favored by I've seen anywhere from eight
Speaker 1: and a half to ten points over the course of
Speaker 1: the week over the Broncos at home touchdown or turnover.
Speaker 2: He honestly, I think the Broncos can pull off an
Speaker 2: upset and I think it's a it's a turnover that
Speaker 2: their favorite because all it takes one bad game.
Speaker 3: And Sean Payton is like, I've been waiting for this
Speaker 3: fucking moment.
Speaker 1: I saw a super graphic that was like Sean Payton's
Speaker 1: like the goat versus bald quarterbacks. He's only lost like
Speaker 1: four bald quarterbacks ever, and he's beat like I mean
Speaker 1: bald coaches. I'm sorry, yeah, bald coaches. He only lost
Speaker 1: like four bad coaches.
Speaker 3: Stanfield, that's a bat.
Speaker 1: He's only lost like four bald coaches in his career
Speaker 1: and he's beat like all the other ones, like multiple times.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think the weathers will be less of an impact
Speaker 1: since both these teams can play in cold weather. Both
Speaker 1: teams have capable receivers but also have receivers.
Speaker 3: That are cable letting them down.
Speaker 1: They both have quarterbacks that can run and make plays
Speaker 1: on the ground defenses have both been and pretty good
Speaker 1: in spite of maybe what people thought they were going
Speaker 1: to be at the beginning of the season. I mean
Speaker 1: the Broncos especially, we're kind of in a transition reset year,
Speaker 1: but they've just had guys stepped up and really developed.
Speaker 3: I mean the Bills.
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people were surprised by how
Speaker 1: stout and solid their secondary has been despite all the
Speaker 1: turnover they had over the last year. But ultimately, for me,
Speaker 1: like the Bills just have so much expectations, Like the
Speaker 1: Broncos at this point are playing with the houses of money.
Speaker 3: No one expected them to be here.
Speaker 1: But to Kenny's point, that could also work in their
Speaker 1: favorite because they really have nothing to lose and.
Speaker 3: They have one of the best defenses in the league.
Speaker 1: And if they're able to you know, control the clock
Speaker 1: with the run game and Bonix is able to make
Speaker 1: a couple plays here and there, this could easily be
Speaker 1: a six to nine game and it's anyone's game going.
Speaker 3: To the fourth quarter.
Speaker 1: Hey hey, hey, that's why that nine points is kind
Speaker 1: of a big scary number, especially if it's you know,
Speaker 1: really cold and the weathers really impacts the passing game.
Speaker 2: And they had three and like I read off the
Speaker 2: all Pro list earlier, the Broncos have three guys who
Speaker 2: are all pros on defense.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's just hard for me to bet against
Speaker 1: Allen and Cook. So for me, I'm gonna take the Bills.
Speaker 1: But I don't like the nine points.
Speaker 3: The Bills should win. But I think Sean Payton is
Speaker 3: no better coach than Sean McDermott. And that's no shade.
Speaker 2: But only one of you has a Super Bowl ring
Speaker 2: and to get rid of Russell Wilson and bow Knicks
Speaker 2: is playing better and looking better than Russell Wilson. Like
Speaker 2: it justifies everything Sean Payton did, even though it was
Speaker 2: kind of foul, but it's like, what else are you
Speaker 2: gonna do?
Speaker 3: I just I think they got the better defense.
Speaker 2: I think the Bills have a tendency to lose themselves
Speaker 2: in games.
Speaker 3: They play down sometimes. Yeah, that's for sure. They don't
Speaker 3: finish people. The Chiefs will finish you.
Speaker 1: The last game in the AFC, at least the Ravens Steelers.
Speaker 1: Right now, I believe the Ravens are favored anywhere from
Speaker 1: like also like nine to ten points. Again, that's a
Speaker 1: lot for me, especially in a third matchup between divisional rivals.
Speaker 1: The Steelers upset the Ravens in November and then the
Speaker 1: Ravens just came out and blew them out in the
Speaker 1: second matchup. So for me, I think this game will
Speaker 1: go either way just off the strength of the rivalry.
Speaker 1: But Baltimore is just much much like Buffalo. Baltimore has
Speaker 1: way too many expectations. They have way too much talent.
Speaker 1: They have to win this game. So I'm still take Baltimore,
Speaker 1: but yeah, I don't like the ten points.
Speaker 2: I'm actually comfortable taking Baltimore because especially they got tired
Speaker 2: of losing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but they we have a Derrick Henry and we
Speaker 3: have a Hulk.
Speaker 1: I mean I think they've only beat the Steelers like
Speaker 1: three times in like five years.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been like a like a fucking it was
Speaker 2: like a ten game losing streak on one point almost
Speaker 2: or something like that. So but I think Lamar's literally
Speaker 2: had forty one touchdowns and four picks in almost a
Speaker 2: thousand yards rushing, like literally the MVP candidate me personally
Speaker 2: a runaway MVP season because like their offensive line is
Speaker 2: playing at a different level. And yeah, the Baltimore Ravens
Speaker 2: lost to the Oakland to the Las Vegas Raiders. But
Speaker 2: where are the Las Vegas Raiders right now? Not in
Speaker 2: the playoffs? Franchise and disarray. So yes, the whole term
Speaker 2: any given Sunday can happen, But in terms of Saturdays, I.
Speaker 3: Just don't think the Steelers have enough to get over.
Speaker 2: I think Tomlin is such a great coach if he
Speaker 2: ever gets a great quarterback, or if he just builds
Speaker 2: something out with fields and George Pickins can keep his
Speaker 2: head on straight for longer than fifteen straight plays. So
Speaker 2: where the curse of the Steelers receiver is real? Like
Speaker 2: they just have a head case at receiver every three
Speaker 2: to four years.
Speaker 3: It's wild.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I got the Ravens. I think the defense
Speaker 2: of the Steelers been playing great all year. The offense
Speaker 2: has been letting them down. And when the Steelers offense
Speaker 2: gets stagnant, Arthur Smith is our offensive coordinator. When the
Speaker 2: Ravens get stagnant, it's because Lamars trying to be too
Speaker 2: much of a team player instead of just saying fuck it,
Speaker 2: I'll do it myself. His mom cussed him out, and
Speaker 2: they ain't lost since That's all I'm saying. Sometimes the
Speaker 2: black mom gotta cush you out and then you'll be good.
Speaker 2: I say that from personal, firsthand experience. But all right,
Speaker 2: moving on to the NFC.
Speaker 1: The Rams Vikings Monday night, That's that's the headliner. The
Speaker 1: Rams right now are favored by two and a half
Speaker 1: in the neutral sight game, which is almost like a
Speaker 1: pick them. So yeah, touchdown and turnover Rams favor.
Speaker 2: It's a touchdown because Sam Darnold plays like shit in
Speaker 2: the worst moments. You play like shit against the Lions,
Speaker 2: So whether they're not the one seed, and Justin Jeffers,
Speaker 2: he had wide receivers who were wide open and couldn't
Speaker 2: get them the ball in this rate, man, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: The Vikings are favored. The Vikings are favored by three,
Speaker 2: by two and a half either way, I still pick Vikings.
Speaker 2: The Rams had a great season. They're gonna kill them
Speaker 2: in the draft again. They're probably gonna take Tyler Warren
Speaker 2: if they can get it, get them. But I just
Speaker 2: think when it comes down to it, the Vikings are
Speaker 2: one of.
Speaker 3: The best defenses in the league.
Speaker 2: I don't think Sam Donald's gonna shit the bed that
Speaker 2: hard twice. You have Justin Jefferson, there's no reason why
Speaker 2: you should not be able to get him the ball.
Speaker 2: There's no way you should lose. It's kind of unacceptable.
Speaker 2: But that's why JJ McCarthy, who grew his hair out
Speaker 2: and looks like looks like the original dudes who played
Speaker 2: Gambit in those old X Man movies. That dude also
Speaker 2: was Tim Riggans and Friday Night Lights. His name is
Speaker 2: Taylor or something. I forget his last name, but yeah.
Speaker 3: So I don't know why you're picking the Vikings.
Speaker 1: If you're saying that Sam Donalds always plays bad in
Speaker 1: Big Woman's.
Speaker 2: I think it's a turnover that their favored. But I
Speaker 2: still think they're gonna win because they're just a better
Speaker 2: team than the Rams are running on feames yesterday, defensive school,
Speaker 2: but like a better team will pay, like the Eagles.
Speaker 2: The Rams don't want to see the Eagles. Yeah, that's
Speaker 2: a dog walking because their interior defensive line, the de
Speaker 2: tackles of the Eagles is just gonna They're gonna walk
Speaker 2: through the guards and the center for the Rams, it
Speaker 2: won't even be funny.
Speaker 3: Yes, So for me, I think it's.
Speaker 1: I think this is a turnover that they're favored, because
Speaker 1: I honestly think the Rams will win.
Speaker 3: I think the Rams will win outright.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised just because one you mentioned Sam
Speaker 1: darn On.
Speaker 3: But that Rams defense, especially the defensive line, is.
Speaker 1: Fast, athletic. They all have high motors, and that's enough.
Speaker 1: That's enough to at least get you one playoff win.
Speaker 1: But can they run the ball manufactor in what they
Speaker 1: have on offense between the two receivers, Cup Hookah Higbee's
Speaker 1: back and healthy, hopefully that can keep them out of,
Speaker 1: you know, unmanageable third down situations as long as they
Speaker 1: can keep Stafford healthy and up right.
Speaker 3: And also they have Kyron who's had a good year.
Speaker 1: He's kind of lost the momentum towards the end of
Speaker 1: the year, but overall, I think he's still a more
Speaker 1: consistent runner than Aaron Jones at this point in their careers.
Speaker 1: And so that's why I would give them the edge
Speaker 1: with the running game as well. But I mean, you're
Speaker 1: not wrong to question the Rams offensive line. I mean,
Speaker 1: they've been pretty makeshift pretty much all year. They've been
Speaker 1: just kind of moving guys around. Guys have been in
Speaker 1: and out of the lineup. They were supposed to be
Speaker 1: getting healthy, so hopefully that improves this week.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I honestly like the Rams.
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I agree, but it's like if the
Speaker 2: Vikings are who they say they are.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't think are a super Bowl team either.
Speaker 1: You know, I think they agree with but I think
Speaker 1: they can beat this team.
Speaker 2: But I think the Vikings if they I think this
Speaker 2: was a bad matchup for the Vikings. Yeah, because the Vikings,
Speaker 2: I think they didn't want to see.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the way they played against the Lions' is like, bro, you.
Speaker 2: Should dog walk the Rams because the Lions dog walk.
Speaker 2: They walked down the Rams, they ran the ball down
Speaker 2: their throat. Still they did the same thing to the Vikings. No, Like, bro,
Speaker 2: how many people have the have the Lions lost? Alex
Speaker 2: fucking Alzoni ever say his last name? The dude's playing
Speaker 2: with a fucking broken arm and a cat like he
Speaker 2: just got his he got his ship stitched up. He's
Speaker 2: playing with a plate in his arm. Was playing with
Speaker 2: a metal plate in his arm?
Speaker 3: All right?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 1: Eagles Packers the basket and Saturday's Action. The Eagles are
Speaker 1: favored by five and a half points, so.
Speaker 3: Five to six points. It's a rematch. It's a rematch
Speaker 3: of the Brazil game.
Speaker 2: But Honestly, I think the Eagles run away with this
Speaker 2: because it's the playoffs.
Speaker 3: Run the ball.
Speaker 2: Let Jalen make a couple of throws. Let him play
Speaker 2: from the front, let him play from the back, like you, Saquan,
Speaker 2: use your elite receivers, lean on your offensive line, which
Speaker 2: is arguably the best in the league, and you already
Speaker 2: have the best defense in the league, was the number
Speaker 2: one defense in the league.
Speaker 3: Like, don't funk around. If you're Philly, Sirianni, don't funck
Speaker 3: this up. You didn't play Saquan. He didn't get the
Speaker 3: record when he probably could have wanted. That was his choice.
Speaker 3: That was his choice. That was literally Squan's choice. That
Speaker 3: was literally his choice, and his coach could have said, no,
Speaker 3: you're gonna play nah, even though it didn't blame him.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I don't blame him either because it would
Speaker 2: have been a meaningless game.
Speaker 3: I need to win. They need to win. They need
Speaker 3: to win. That's why he's there to win.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But my point is the Packers just always find
Speaker 2: to win to just be competitive. But I really don't
Speaker 2: think it's gonna be the same results as the first
Speaker 2: time they played, which was.
Speaker 3: The season one by fast I mean I wrote the
Speaker 3: headline for that point. We know what the Packers need
Speaker 3: to do.
Speaker 1: They need to spread the ball around because he keep
Speaker 1: that defense on its on its.
Speaker 3: Heels and hope and hope for the best. But yeah,
Speaker 3: they have a great defense too, which is crazy when
Speaker 3: you think about it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Rashaan Garry had a great year, multiple Xavier McKinney
Speaker 1: had a great year as well.
Speaker 2: You got Kwan Kuan Kway Walker when he's not fucking
Speaker 2: acting like a headcase Walker and like, uh, these Georgia
Speaker 2: players like are just head crashouts. It's like you got
Speaker 2: Kuai Walker, you got George Pickins, just two crashouts on
Speaker 2: different sides of the ball where when he pushed that trainer.
Speaker 1: Yeah but yeah for me, I mean, as you mentioned
Speaker 1: the Eagles, they should just be the over powered juggernaut
Speaker 1: in this matchup. So I mean, I'll take them for
Speaker 1: this for the six points, seven points, but I could
Speaker 1: see them easily not covering. I could see the Packers
Speaker 1: also just pulling up a surprising upset because the Eagles
Speaker 1: have also had moments where they haven't looked their best
Speaker 1: and not playing next week it might come back to
Speaker 1: hurt their head coach, because if they come out slow
Speaker 1: and Green Bay clips them, that's gonna be it for
Speaker 1: him getting fired.
Speaker 3: And I'm calling Ben Johnson immediately.
Speaker 1: All right, And then final matchup Bud the NFC, at
Speaker 1: least as far as what we've talked about, Buccaneers Commanders
Speaker 1: Sunday Night Football. Right now, the Buccaneers are favored by three.
Speaker 1: This is a rematch game and they will also be
Speaker 1: at home, so touchdown their turnover. Buccaneers favored by three.
Speaker 2: The legacy of Jade Daniels continues. I'm taking him. Baker's
Speaker 2: a gunslinger. They got too many injuries. They're starting safety
Speaker 2: got into a fucking car accident this week. Bro like
Speaker 2: the Buccaneers like bless their hearts. It's just they're like
Speaker 2: the Cleveland Browns, but like more successful, like in terms
Speaker 2: of just injuries the past couple of years. And Marsha
Speaker 2: Lattimore and Mike Evans are gonna cancel each other out.
Speaker 2: They hate each other. It's a snake in the Mongoos.
Speaker 2: So if those two guys are making plays, if Bucky Irvin,
Speaker 2: who's hurt, isn't making plays, if uh the running back
Speaker 2: from areas on the state that they have if they're
Speaker 2: running game is making plays. Baker tries too hard, he'll
Speaker 2: have a turnover. That defense it's prone to give up
Speaker 2: place Terry mc They don't have anybody who can cover
Speaker 2: Terry McLaren. You have no one who can care cover
Speaker 2: Scary Terry zach Ertz is gonna get his Austin Deckertz
Speaker 2: does just enough to move the chains for you, and
Speaker 2: Jade Daniels proves like you can't blitz him because he'll
Speaker 2: just take off a run and then when you realize,
Speaker 2: oh shit, he is fast, it's like there's nothing you do.
Speaker 2: That's eight yards of pop and next thing you know,
Speaker 2: you're a field goal range and it's like yeah, because
Speaker 2: they're just walking you down. And I think the commanders,
Speaker 2: the commanders have enough belief, they have enough veterans around
Speaker 2: this all star rookie QB to where I think they
Speaker 2: get the win decisively against against the Tampa Bay and
Speaker 2: they just have less injuries. I think Latimore is gonna
Speaker 2: gonna be a factor in this game because if Mike
Speaker 2: evens pops his hamstring, but there goes all your receivers,
Speaker 2: then you forget Marcus. Latamore is still under the age
Speaker 2: of thirty in a top five corner, so let's not
Speaker 2: forget that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think this is a tough game for me
Speaker 1: for some of the reasons you mentioned. I think it's
Speaker 1: crazy to like, if you would have asked survey the
Speaker 1: field at the beginning of the season, like you would
Speaker 1: have said Tampa would be the best team out of Florida,
Speaker 1: I don't think a lot of people would have believed you.
Speaker 1: But I was one standard just because the Ravens. I mean,
Speaker 1: the Dolphins had a lot of injuries and Jacksonville was
Speaker 1: just shot itself in the foot trash. But yeah, man,
Speaker 1: I think the harp part with this game now is
Speaker 1: we know Baker likes to be a gun slinger. We
Speaker 1: know he likes to push the ball down the field.
Speaker 1: Nobody had Mike Evans and Marshawn Lattimore in the first
Speaker 1: round on their Bingo card. But we're here for it.
Speaker 1: So it'll be up to what McMillan can do. He's
Speaker 1: stepped up the past few weeks. Will we get a
Speaker 1: Sterling Shepherd td randomly or Shot White catch seven passes
Speaker 1: for no reason? Will that tight end get over sixty
Speaker 1: yards like he's been doing like that, Tapa Bay Buccaneers
Speaker 1: defense has also been up and down, but they could.
Speaker 1: They have some playmakers there, especially you know, Vada Villa
Speaker 1: is to be respected at all times. And then when
Speaker 1: I when I think back about the like when you
Speaker 1: think back to rookie quarterbacks in the playoffs, like it's
Speaker 1: hard to win, like because it's a new moment, It's
Speaker 1: it's an elevated stage, the game speeds up a little
Speaker 1: bit better, the preparation is a little bit different.
Speaker 3: So, like, I mean, I even think.
Speaker 1: Back to that game where Lamar and Justin Herbert faced
Speaker 1: off in their first year and and Herbert got the
Speaker 1: best of Lamar despite you know.
Speaker 3: Lamar basically being in an MVP season.
Speaker 1: So it's tough to win in the playoffs, especially when
Speaker 1: you're the focal point of an offense. So yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't know. To me, I could see it either way.
Speaker 1: I think that's that's that's honestly the hardest game for
Speaker 1: me to pick. But yeah, so I mean, I guess
Speaker 1: if I'm betting for real, for real, I'll probably just
Speaker 1: go with the Bucks because they're at home, they have
Speaker 1: more experience. But off fulfilling, it's hard to root against Jaydon.
Speaker 1: It's hard to root against. Like you mentioned all the
Speaker 1: veterans on that defense. Bobby Wagner is from the AI too,
Speaker 1: So yeah, I guess I had to have to pick
Speaker 1: the Redskins or Commanders out of just feeling. But if
Speaker 1: I really put money up, I'll probably just take the Buccaneers.
Speaker 1: Good for you, all right, So let's just get to
Speaker 1: the rams.
Speaker 3: Uh, not really much to say. Talk about the fires.
Speaker 2: Talk about a lot of shit's happened in the last
Speaker 2: three days. I don't know where to start, but one
Speaker 2: quick thing I'm gonna get off my chest. I'm totally
Speaker 2: okay with the Raiders training to get Tyreek Hill since
Speaker 2: he wants out of Miami. Totally on board for that.
Speaker 2: Give me Tyreek Hill and Brock Bowers and Jacoby Myers
Speaker 2: and draft two running backs and a QB and then
Speaker 2: then I might then I might have some respect for
Speaker 2: you as a paradise I said what I said? All right, yeah, man,
Speaker 2: all these fires starting up in Tino. My homie just
Speaker 2: sent me a picture because his dad, he works with
Speaker 2: his dad's construction company, and like he showed me him
Speaker 2: leaving Encino when they got the order. Bro that shit
Speaker 2: looks like hell even the parts of Ventino that are
Speaker 2: on fire, like Granada Hills.
Speaker 3: Caught on fire.
Speaker 2: What the fuck, bro, He's like one hundred mile an
Speaker 2: hour winds that people have reported, like and they're running
Speaker 2: out of water, Like I feel bad for these firefighters.
Speaker 3: Like the city, Like.
Speaker 2: I said, La politicians are officially worse than Oakland politicians.
Speaker 2: And you see what Oakland looks like. And if you
Speaker 2: haven't seen what Oakland looks like.
Speaker 3: Just go for a visit. I'm gonna tell you what hood.
Speaker 2: I would suggest you've talked to somebody who actually is
Speaker 2: from there or been there, so you know what place
Speaker 2: is not to go to, because if you're not really from.
Speaker 3: That neighborhood, why are you there?
Speaker 2: But yeah, parts of Oakland look like fucking third world
Speaker 2: countries after a bomb went off, And the same thing
Speaker 2: you could say for Pacific Palisades, Altadida, some of some
Speaker 2: parts of Pasadena. Like somebody got this dude on Twitter
Speaker 2: was like, my neighbor four hundred four point five million
Speaker 2: dollar condo burnt to the ground. Developers are offering him
Speaker 2: seven hundred and fifty k from the land. Again, we
Speaker 2: gotta just start fucking up more CEOs, Like I'm not
Speaker 2: gonna say un alive because I don't promote murder, but
Speaker 2: sometimes you just gotta beat up a CEO or whoever's
Speaker 2: in charge, because.
Speaker 3: Personally, this is some bullshit.
Speaker 2: Like ten people have died because of this, Like the
Speaker 2: city has failed epically, and I think there needs to
Speaker 2: be people who are should who be thrown in prison
Speaker 2: for the gross negligence of the city. All right, there's
Speaker 2: shit old. There's like old landmarks that burnt down. Like
Speaker 2: the dude who created the fucking Nickerson gardens died in
Speaker 2: his house eighty two years old. Didn't get to die
Speaker 2: of natural causes. One dude, they found the hose in
Speaker 2: his hand. He was so burnt, badly burnt that his
Speaker 2: hand was still in the fucking hose. All these fires, bro, Like,
Speaker 2: it's the storms in Texas and the Midwest plus the
Speaker 2: fires out here, and it's it feels strategic, Like, bro,
Speaker 2: since when the fuck in your lifetime, Pete, how many
Speaker 2: times have you seen Studio City on fire? Didn't you
Speaker 2: used to live like in that area at one point
Speaker 2: for a little bit, Like what have you seen Studio
Speaker 2: City Granada Hills down the street from fucking Seasoning just
Speaker 2: on fire in a blaze and everybody has to evacuate.
Speaker 3: When have we seen that in our lifetimes? This is
Speaker 3: some new shit twenty seventeen.
Speaker 2: I'm not talking about the Porter Ranch ghast Lee.
Speaker 3: That's different.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about all the fires that we had in
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen. You literally had like seven fires in twenty
Speaker 1: seven then so many fires I lost count. But I'm
Speaker 1: saying this is, this feels different.
Speaker 3: Doesn't feel different than me.
Speaker 2: It feels different knowing that Pacific Palisades is fucking gone.
Speaker 2: That doesn't That's not a normal occurrence. Shutting down Santa Monica,
Speaker 2: peer evacuating Santa Monica, evacuating Culver City Like that's wild, bro.
Speaker 2: Like I used to work off Lincoln at that Chick
Speaker 2: fil A, the only one in La County that stays
Speaker 2: open till midnight.
Speaker 3: Like, and I'm seeing I've been.
Speaker 2: Like there's parts of La especially downtown, like she's just
Speaker 2: covered in smoke, like this is this is gross negligence
Speaker 2: on the part of La City officials. And the fact
Speaker 2: that Karen Bass decided let me go out of fucking
Speaker 2: out of the countries to Nigeria right now or Kenya
Speaker 2: or whichever African country she was in. It's just a
Speaker 2: bad look. It's a bad look for Newsome who didn't
Speaker 2: sign the fucking bill. When the firefighters only get twelve
Speaker 2: percent of their budgets, I think we should just start sitting.
Speaker 2: If we run out of firefighters, we should just start
Speaker 2: sending cops. Since y'all got all the budget and y'all
Speaker 2: just be beating people up a shooting people all day.
Speaker 3: Go shoot these fires.
Speaker 2: Homie, We're gonna teach you how to able host. Go go,
Speaker 2: go make yourself useful. Since the cops get the whole
Speaker 2: fucking budget. It's like, bro, y'all want law and order. No,
Speaker 2: you just mostly all are just racists and stupid. But also,
Speaker 2: it's not lost on me how some of these people
Speaker 2: who are rich as fuck lost their homes, but you
Speaker 2: look down on everybody below crinch y'all. That ain't lost
Speaker 2: on me either. So it's unfortunate that this shit's going on.
Speaker 2: But just know, the hood remembers because you mocked us
Speaker 2: during the Cracker, you mocked us during COVID, and now
Speaker 2: some of y'all don't have homes to go back to.
Speaker 2: Like life is a life. Life is a circle, motherfucker.
Speaker 2: Like you think it's a straight line no no no no.
Speaker 2: History repeats in the words of common Kameny. Any street
Speaker 2: doesn't repeat itself, but it definitely rhymes. And we're seeing
Speaker 2: people are already I said this soon as the fire starts, said,
Speaker 2: people are gonna start comparing this to Katrina. They're gonna
Speaker 2: say this is their Katrina all over Twitter. People Once
Speaker 2: I saw like the up the emergency update and it
Speaker 2: said Kenneth fire, and then people hit me up and
Speaker 2: they're like, see, like shit's getting out of head. I'm like, yeah, bro,
Speaker 2: this this is so bad that people who should never
Speaker 2: have to have evacuated because their cities shouldn't be on fire,
Speaker 2: like Burdbank on terror, Like.
Speaker 3: All these places are fucked up.
Speaker 2: That have never been this fucked up in our lifetime,
Speaker 2: and the city don't have a plan.
Speaker 3: It's kind of scary you walk outside. I have to
Speaker 3: wear a mask.
Speaker 2: Just because like it was, it was fucking shit flying
Speaker 2: around in the air. The past couple of days, I've
Speaker 2: just been staying in the house. And if it wasn't
Speaker 2: for the fires and the storm in Texas, I would
Speaker 2: have been in Texas for the Cotton Bowl.
Speaker 3: But I'm like.
Speaker 2: Even then that was a risk because people are scared
Speaker 2: right now, people are spassing the fuck out. But anytime
Speaker 2: I see like, oh well, this company is like what's
Speaker 2: it called party buses are like helping get people to safety,
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm retweeting shit like that anytime I see it.
Speaker 3: So what was like, I says, if you know where there's.
Speaker 2: Help being given, just retweet it, share it because you
Speaker 2: never know who might need it. I have coworkers whose
Speaker 2: house is burned to the ground, and as someone who
Speaker 2: survived my childhood home burning to the ground, I empathized
Speaker 2: with all these people because I noticed, like, but my
Speaker 2: family got lucky because my grandfather woke up in the
Speaker 2: nick of time before all the water.
Speaker 3: He just exploded.
Speaker 2: One of them exploded in our house and part of
Speaker 2: the house was on fire. But thankfully him and my
Speaker 2: grandma got everybody out the house. The firefighters are like, yeah,
Speaker 2: twenty more minutes, y'all would have all been dead. And
Speaker 2: this was like when I was like two.
Speaker 3: Or three in Eastokeland.
Speaker 2: So so my heart goes out to all the victims,
Speaker 2: people who lost their homes savings. There's a special place
Speaker 2: in hell for all you people who work in insurance.
Speaker 2: And I'm not talking like the baseline. I'm talking about
Speaker 2: you upper management people.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna talk to some people.
Speaker 2: Who lost their homes and their insurance agents and like
Speaker 2: their house is fully insured.
Speaker 3: I'm like, so you can. You didn't think the hell
Speaker 3: ab out your neighbors. Like the fact.
Speaker 2: That that decision was made from the top, that they're
Speaker 2: just gonna yank everybody's insurance, fire insurance, national disasters and
Speaker 2: shit like that, it's sickening to me. It's very inhumane,
Speaker 2: and it's just it's just sad. It looks like she's
Speaker 2: gonna get worse before it gets better. But if you
Speaker 2: woke up today, it's it's getting better. So keep your
Speaker 2: head up out there.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So for me, I mean, I just got back into town,
Speaker 1: obviously from Las Vegas. Spent the week out there for
Speaker 1: CS conferences I usually do. Didn't get to spend a
Speaker 1: lot of time checking out a lot of products like
Speaker 1: I normally do. It was mostly doing a lot of stuff,
Speaker 1: you know, for work and clients, which was good. It
Speaker 1: was great to you know, connect with some of my
Speaker 1: clients a little bit of a deeper level, and it
Speaker 1: was also great to you know, catch up with some
Speaker 1: of my media friends all that good stuff. So yeah,
Speaker 1: watching it from Afar was just kind of weird because
Speaker 1: I don't know, it seemed like, on one hand, it
Speaker 1: was very serious. I watched the LAPD press conference about it.
Speaker 1: We were talking about how an unprecedented amount of you know,
Speaker 1: firefighters and first responders had been deployed for these particular
Speaker 1: two to five fires. I had some friends who you know,
Speaker 1: are in general who would do firefighting, who had reached
Speaker 1: out to me and asked me about it or asked
Speaker 1: me how I was doing.
Speaker 3: And then.
Speaker 1: I talked to you know, people that were here, and
Speaker 1: they just didn't really seem like they were that bothered
Speaker 1: by it, at least in my side of the woods.
Speaker 3: But yeah, things just continue to progress.
Speaker 1: I got a press release from FEMA, got all these
Speaker 1: updates on my phone as soon as we landed, like
Speaker 1: the whole plane was just going off.
Speaker 3: Everyone was getting emergency alerts.
Speaker 1: Then when I sat outside, like it didn't seem as
Speaker 1: smoky as I thought it would be, Like I remember
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen, like literally there was ash in there. Like
Speaker 1: I was literally remember wearing black clothes and there being
Speaker 1: ash on my clothes, like I literally remember seeing flames
Speaker 1: on the four or five. Now, granted, if I lived
Speaker 1: in the valley and like I do like I did,
Speaker 1: then you know, it might have been like that and
Speaker 1: my experience might have been worse. But from where I'm
Speaker 1: standing in the South Bay right now, I feel like
Speaker 1: this isn't as bad as other previous fire situations that
Speaker 1: we've been in. There's some reports that a couple of
Speaker 1: them could have been from arson, which is fucking crazy,
Speaker 1: but otherwise it's it was more of the other stuff
Speaker 1: that kind of whirred me than the fire. I mean, technically,
Speaker 1: all these areas really shouldn't be a sprung metropolis. Like
Speaker 1: these areas were meant to be burned, so when they
Speaker 1: burn really shouldn't be surprised. It's unfortunate that people have
Speaker 1: built their houses and their lives in these places. It
Speaker 1: sucks that, as Kenny mentioned, there's so much politics behind
Speaker 1: where things get developed. Sucks that insurance has gone up
Speaker 1: and it's starting to exclude people from this. I mean,
Speaker 1: I felt that my own car insurance go up, like
Speaker 1: all the circum stances around it suck for sure, But
Speaker 1: the least surprising part of it is really the fire
Speaker 1: itself to me, because that's that's nature, Like, that's nature
Speaker 1: running its coores. And whether or not this will, you know,
Speaker 1: change where people decide to live, or change the housing
Speaker 1: market or the rental prizes, I mean, that remains to
Speaker 1: be seen.
Speaker 3: But I think at the very least, it's.
Speaker 1: Put California on a national scene, and I think a
Speaker 1: lot of people are kind of scared based off what
Speaker 1: they've been seeing. But to the other five million of
Speaker 1: us that live here that aren't in those you know,
Speaker 1: highly exclusive areas, like most of us.
Speaker 3: Are business as usual. Now.
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to overlook people like I know in
Speaker 1: passing her in Altadina, who like legitimately had to evacuate
Speaker 1: their homes and legitimately didn't know what was going to happen.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't want to overlook that because I
Speaker 1: know some of those people had the worst days of
Speaker 1: their lives. But for I think for most of us,
Speaker 1: we're still we still are facing the same problems we
Speaker 1: were facing before. Just now we have to inhale shit
Speaker 1: tourn of shitty air when we walk out the door.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I don't know anything could happen over these
Speaker 1: next few days.
Speaker 3: They still expect the win to pick back up.
Speaker 1: So just prayers for everyone who's out there fighting the fires,
Speaker 1: everyone out there, you know, providing support, emergency services.
Speaker 3: It's good to see all these sports teams step up.
Speaker 1: Vikings donated a million, Chargers donated like two hundred k.
Speaker 1: The staffers are taking buses to take Ramley to the
Speaker 1: game in Arizona, Like, all these teams are up and
Speaker 1: I've been doing something, so at the very least, that's good.
Speaker 1: And yeah, I don't know, Just prayers for everyone, all right.
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