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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Big for Society. If you have bigfoot activity

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<v Speaker 1>the show. All right, Bigfoot Society. I've got the privilege

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<v Speaker 1>of talking to mister Johnny Tucker today. He's a bigfoot

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<v Speaker 1>researcher down there in North Carolina. How's it going, Nan,

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<v Speaker 1>It's going good.

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<v Speaker 2>I was kind of hoping for an early spring, but

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<v Speaker 2>we're going through another cold snap at the moment, but

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<v Speaker 2>I think he's going very well. Thank you for the

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<v Speaker 2>invite on the podcast, Big Society, and congratulations on your success.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I was happy that our mutual friend Miss

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<v Speaker 1>Vee was able to make the connection. And it looks

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<v Speaker 1>like you've got some really interesting things that will be

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<v Speaker 1>will be looking into today. And you've got I've got

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<v Speaker 1>a few sounds that you've recorded. Well, we'll listen to

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<v Speaker 1>those further in the episode. But Johnny, what was it

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<v Speaker 1>that got you first into this, this whole Bigfoot thing

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<v Speaker 1>to begin with?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'd have to I'd have to give credit to

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<v Speaker 2>my parents because back back in the day, I was

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<v Speaker 2>probably about seven years old and they took us to

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<v Speaker 2>see one of the movies that came out I believe

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<v Speaker 2>it was back in the seventies. It was one was

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<v Speaker 2>called A Creature from Black Lake, and I believe the

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<v Speaker 2>other one that came out up on the big screen

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<v Speaker 2>was Sasquatched. And ever since then I was pretty much terrified.

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<v Speaker 2>And but the whole allure of does Bigfoot exist? That

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<v Speaker 2>that stuck with me throughout my my whole life basically,

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<v Speaker 2>and then from ever since, you know, to the TV

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<v Speaker 2>shows that came on Legend of Boggy Creek in Search

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<v Speaker 2>of a Monster Quest, and then when YouTube and the

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<v Speaker 2>Internet came out, just defining stories Bigfoot stories and encounters,

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<v Speaker 2>it just pretty much just blew the doors wide open,

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<v Speaker 2>So it's pretty much stuck with me my whole life.

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<v Speaker 1>When was it that you first realized that all the

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<v Speaker 1>stuff you've got going on down there in North Carolina?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it was a I always kind of thought that

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<v Speaker 2>Bigfoot was out on the west coast for for some

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<v Speaker 2>reason when I was growing up, because I grew up

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<v Speaker 2>in a big city just north of Buffalo, New York,

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<v Speaker 2>so I'm pretty much a city slicker, and we really

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<v Speaker 2>didn't have we probably had to travel about two and

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<v Speaker 2>a half hours down to the Alligating Mountains, which is

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<v Speaker 2>down the Pennsylvania New York border for if any bigfoots

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<v Speaker 2>were existed, that that would be the area. But got

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<v Speaker 2>down there, so I pretty much thought it was west

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<v Speaker 2>coast thing, maybe Smoky Mountains. I'm more toward the eastern

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<v Speaker 2>part of North Carolina, about two and a half hours

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<v Speaker 2>from the coast, so the mountains for me is a

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<v Speaker 2>good four hour drive, so I kind of figured it

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<v Speaker 2>would be more up toward the mountains. And it wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>until an episode of Finding Bigfoot where they did some

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<v Speaker 2>research and some investigating in the u National Forest, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know the Ure National Forest, it's about a three

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<v Speaker 2>hour drive for me, it's pretty much right in the

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<v Speaker 2>center part of North Carolina. And then from from that,

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<v Speaker 2>I just pretty much was doing some Google searching see

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<v Speaker 2>if there's any kind of sightings or activity that it

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<v Speaker 2>was closer to me, closer to the to the east coast,

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<v Speaker 2>checking out the BFRORO website. There was a few reports

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<v Speaker 2>up and around my county. I don't think a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people who have had big foot sightings or encounters

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<v Speaker 2>their report to the BFRORO. Probably one for a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of reasons. One, they probably don't know that the BFRO exists,

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<v Speaker 2>and probably they just want to keep it more more

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<v Speaker 2>more hush hush. And the BFRORO website. I was checking

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<v Speaker 2>out a big foot mapping project. There's some sightings up

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<v Speaker 2>around where I live, and I work with a guy

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<v Speaker 2>who had some family land. It's about forty minutes from

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<v Speaker 2>to my west and back in I believe it was

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<v Speaker 2>about six years ago, maybe seven years ago. He had

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<v Speaker 2>either posted up on Facebook or had commented on someone's

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<v Speaker 2>Facebook post that he had seen a white sasquatch on

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<v Speaker 2>his family's land. So that pretty much brought it even

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<v Speaker 2>closer to me. And from there just doing some Google searching.

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<v Speaker 2>There is a crypto Zoology and Paranormal Museum. It's about

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<v Speaker 2>a half an hour forty minute drive from me and

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<v Speaker 2>back in the all of twenty nineteen, they actually had

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<v Speaker 2>a festival up in this state park. It's called Meetnock

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<v Speaker 2>Mountain State Park. It's pretty much in a rural part

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<v Speaker 2>of the state, forty five minutes drive from raleyh Rono Rapids,

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<v Speaker 2>the big city, so it's out in a rural area.

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<v Speaker 2>And I said, heck, I'll go up there and attend it,

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<v Speaker 2>and met some great people, a lot of local people,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of local hikers, a lot of local folks

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<v Speaker 2>up in the area that have either had encounters encounters

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<v Speaker 2>meaning tree knocks, finding tree structures, sightings, finding footprints in

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<v Speaker 2>and around the Meetnock Mountain area. And from what I

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<v Speaker 2>took from listening to everybody and talking to a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of folks is that it wasn't it's not just in

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<v Speaker 2>the state park area. It's pretty much up in that

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<v Speaker 2>part of North Carolina, northern part, northeastern part, Central Park.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's what really got me into it, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>I realized that maybe I don't have to go out

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<v Speaker 2>to the west coast to encounter or to see if

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<v Speaker 2>this bigfoot phenomenon exists, I can just go a little

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<v Speaker 2>ways up the road. And that's pretty much what I did.

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<v Speaker 2>I started hiking, doing a lot of hiking and experiencing

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of stuff out that way, and for sure

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<v Speaker 2>it is real.

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<v Speaker 1>Was there a certain event that really, you know, pushed

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<v Speaker 1>you over the edge as you were starting to go

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<v Speaker 1>through your research, something that was like, wow, okay, there

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<v Speaker 1>is no question that what I'm dealing with is right

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<v Speaker 1>out there right now.

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<v Speaker 2>There was. I started the way that my work schedule was.

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<v Speaker 2>I had my day's offer during the week and pretty

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<v Speaker 2>much in the afternoon. So being a rural park, there's

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<v Speaker 2>really not a lot of people. You get a good

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<v Speaker 2>weekend crowd up there, but during the week it's really

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<v Speaker 2>there's hardly anybody up there. So the first time I

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<v Speaker 2>went hiking was October that year, and I had a

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<v Speaker 2>little tire thumper in my car and sparked up in

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<v Speaker 2>the parking lot. There's nobody around, and I started to

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<v Speaker 2>do just a couple of tree knocks. I really didn't

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<v Speaker 2>know what I was doing. The one trail that I

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<v Speaker 2>went down, it kind of goes downstream. It's about a

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<v Speaker 2>time and a walk down to the creek. So about

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<v Speaker 2>halfway down the trail, I didn't know the tree knock

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<v Speaker 2>and just kind of just ran stealth or just ran

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<v Speaker 2>quiet and made it down to the creek. And the

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<v Speaker 2>atmosphere that day it was like super hot, if even

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<v Speaker 2>before October it was super hot. It was just dead quiet,

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<v Speaker 2>really nothing ruin. And here comes a tree knock back

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<v Speaker 2>from the other side of the creek up one of

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<v Speaker 2>the bluffs. I mean, just as crystal clear as you

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<v Speaker 2>can think. It sounded like it probably sounded like a

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<v Speaker 2>pine tree something hitting a pine tree, but just clear

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<v Speaker 2>as day. The second time went out hiking was a

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<v Speaker 2>week later and one afternoon, started at about two thirty

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<v Speaker 2>and took a different trail that went upstream, this time

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<v Speaker 2>a little longer of a loop. It's probably about a

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<v Speaker 2>two and a half mile hike. And I got to

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<v Speaker 2>about halfway on the trail and it kind of loops back.

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<v Speaker 2>You're going to come back through a very tight, narrow

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<v Speaker 2>section of woods and then eventually out to a field

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<v Speaker 2>where the parking lot is. So I noticed that there

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<v Speaker 2>was a couple of X structures back in the woods,

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<v Speaker 2>and there's also some tree breaks back there. But for

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<v Speaker 2>some reason, when I made that turn and just about

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<v Speaker 2>the head back in, there was just a super super

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<v Speaker 2>feeling of something watching us, just in anxiety. It was

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like my sixth sense just kicked in overdrive.

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<v Speaker 2>Really never experienced anything like that before. And I was

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<v Speaker 2>really deciding whether or not to keep on going or

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<v Speaker 2>to go back the long way. And at that time,

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<v Speaker 2>it was probably about four o'clock in the afternoon. It

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<v Speaker 2>was mid October, so the sun was coming down below

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<v Speaker 2>the tree line, so we were starting to get dark.

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<v Speaker 2>So I kind of sucked it up, started going down

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<v Speaker 2>the trail where the trees both sides of the tree

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<v Speaker 2>lines kind of enclosed in a little bit, did one

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<v Speaker 2>more tree knock, and then ran silent out there. But

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<v Speaker 2>in the meantime, there was being up in this area.

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<v Speaker 2>There's there's a lot of hunters and they hunt with dogs,

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<v Speaker 2>so a lot of times that the dogs they don't

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<v Speaker 2>come back, they'd get lost in the woods unfortunately. But

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<v Speaker 2>there was this dog that was somewheers, not close to me,

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<v Speaker 2>but somewhere back in the woods, and it started barking

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<v Speaker 2>just randomly, nothing to be alarmed about. So I say

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<v Speaker 2>I was probably about fifty yards if if not even

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<v Speaker 2>closer to coming out into this smetal into this field.

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<v Speaker 2>The dog was still behind me, back somewhere in the woods,

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<v Speaker 2>but it was barking even more. I had stopped all

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<v Speaker 2>of a sudden, back where I was not directly back

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<v Speaker 2>behind me, but back in the area that I was,

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<v Speaker 2>comes this super loud, super it was a low yell.

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<v Speaker 2>It was basically like a super powerful yell back there,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was it was a person couldn't do it.

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<v Speaker 2>It was just like super strong. I mean like it

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<v Speaker 2>echoes throughout the whole woods and the dogs shut right up.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't know if it was if the yell

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<v Speaker 2>was directed toward the dog or directed toward me coming

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<v Speaker 2>through the area. So I made it out. I went

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<v Speaker 2>to my car. It was about four thirty by that time,

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<v Speaker 2>and in my car, and there was two other cars

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<v Speaker 2>in the parking lot, so I was like, well, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just gonna sit here and just just in case somebody,

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<v Speaker 2>just in case if somebody was behind me just like

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<v Speaker 2>screwing around, They're gonna come out and I'll be able

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<v Speaker 2>to see if there was anybody back there. But two

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<v Speaker 2>cars in parking lot, they were up in the pavilion

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<v Speaker 2>area using the restroom. They came out and they left.

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<v Speaker 2>I sat in my car and I was just like Wow,

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<v Speaker 2>went home, got on YouTube, googled everything, black bear, black

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<v Speaker 2>bear sounds, yelled black bears everything, and it did not

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<v Speaker 2>even come close. It was like like an unbearished yell.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a short yell. I would describe it as

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<v Speaker 2>if if a person was trying to scare somebody and

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<v Speaker 2>they were say, if a person was hiding behind something

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<v Speaker 2>and then their friend comes up and then they go raw,

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<v Speaker 2>And that's that's really how it was. But it was

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<v Speaker 2>so so powerful. December of that year, just a few

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<v Speaker 2>months later, there's a service road that and that's a

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<v Speaker 2>really small parking lot and you can access the back

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<v Speaker 2>trails just going it's probably about an eight minute walk

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<v Speaker 2>down the service road. And had stopped there one afternoon

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<v Speaker 2>in December. I was just going to take a quick

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<v Speaker 2>probably about maybe about thirty yards fifty yards from the

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<v Speaker 2>of his howl that that's how loud it was, and

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<v Speaker 2>trying to debunk it. Just had my friend go down

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<v Speaker 2>loud as you could and it was like nothing, just

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<v Speaker 2>nothing compared to the powerful uh how that was. It

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<v Speaker 2>go back there, just to check out what the area

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<v Speaker 2>looked like. But when I did, just before you get

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<v Speaker 2>into the pines, the pine barrier, there was a small

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<v Speaker 2>X structure. It wasn't huge, It probably came up to

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<v Speaker 2>my chest. And there was also a tree break back there.

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<v Speaker 2>structure tree break. So Ever, since then, you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>recorder and I carried it up on my backpack everywhere

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<v Speaker 2>I went to just just to cry to document just

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<v Speaker 2>in case something like this happens again. So it wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>until March of the following year twenty twenty, we had

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to test to see I've heard people leaving audio

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<v Speaker 2>recorders outside overnight, and I pretty much just wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>how much memory would be to run overnight. So I

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<v Speaker 2>went down to a remote part of the creek and

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<v Speaker 2>left left the recorder up in just like a little

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<v Speaker 2>notch of the tree, and came back the next morning

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<v Speaker 2>and picked it up and just listening to the audio

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<v Speaker 2>for that night.

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<v Speaker 1>Big for society, who will be right back after these messages.

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<v Speaker 2>It was nothing special. It was just just normal, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>being being in mar It was still pretty quiet. So

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit of crickets, a little bit of this,

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<v Speaker 2>not even a little bit of deer running around, because

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<v Speaker 2>you can tell when a deer dog walks, walks through

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<v Speaker 2>the brush. It's kind of like peg leggy type. At

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<v Speaker 2>two thirty in the morning, something starts to walk. You

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<v Speaker 2>can you can hear it walks. It's in the distance

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<v Speaker 2>and it walks at a It wasn't a run. It

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<v Speaker 2>was more like a quick walk, not a fast walk,

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<v Speaker 2>but a quick walk. It starts off walks right past

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<v Speaker 2>the area that I had the recorder set up. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>this is down by one of the areas of the creek,

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<v Speaker 2>and at the time there was a there was a

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<v Speaker 2>down tree there. So you hear this thing walking, it's

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<v Speaker 2>coming closer, it's combing closer. You hear it step over

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<v Speaker 2>the tree, and when it does the step over, it

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<v Speaker 2>sounds like a two legged step over. It goes a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit past, and it settles down in the area

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<v Speaker 2>for a couple hours. You can hear it shuffling in

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<v Speaker 2>the leaves. You can hear it kind of shifting its weight. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>four o'clock in the morning, it does a tree knock.

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<v Speaker 2>Four forty five in the morning, it does a second

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<v Speaker 2>tree knock, and then you can hear it leaving the area,

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<v Speaker 2>shuffling off into the area. And it wasn't like a

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<v Speaker 2>real big blast. I call them power knocks of like

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<v Speaker 2>if you get a baseball bat and just hit a

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<v Speaker 2>tree as hard as you could. It was. It sounded

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<v Speaker 2>like it had either a stick or a club and

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<v Speaker 2>it just like casually just like hit the tree. But

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<v Speaker 2>ever since then, that was pretty much my eye opener.

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<v Speaker 2>Listening to that audio was my eye opener. Because you

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<v Speaker 2>can argue, you know, the footsteps coming through and I

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<v Speaker 2>think it took something like about fifty seconds till when

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<v Speaker 2>you first hear when you first hear it, walking to

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<v Speaker 2>where its settled in, the whole timeframe was about fifty seconds,

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<v Speaker 2>and you can kind of argue that you know, two legged,

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<v Speaker 2>four legged, but if you when you're throwing the tree knocks.

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<v Speaker 2>After that, that was pretty much my eye opener moment.

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<v Speaker 2>And from that point on I was one hundred percent committed.

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<v Speaker 2>And the most important thing about that audio clip is

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<v Speaker 2>that it did not circle back and come back where

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<v Speaker 2>it came from. It kept on going, and so I

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<v Speaker 2>basically just kept on going with doing audio, leaving audio

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<v Speaker 2>recorders up probably about a quarter mile up searching that

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<v Speaker 2>area rually really well it's its root and right knox

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<v Speaker 2>to the creek, and just trying to develop some patterns,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, over the next five years, coming across footprints

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<v Speaker 2>up up in the creek beds, finding tree breaks, finding

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<v Speaker 2>tree structures, and basically just hoping to come across one

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<v Speaker 2>of these creatures one day. But that audio that night,

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<v Speaker 2>between the walk by and adding in the tree knocks,

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<v Speaker 2>that that was my eye opener moment.

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<v Speaker 1>Should we try to place some of that audio right now?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just going to go through how you sent them

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<v Speaker 1>over to me here. Okay, So I think we first

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<v Speaker 1>we start out with a few tree knocks. So let's

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<v Speaker 1>let's play those.

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<v Speaker 2>I can get. I can give you some times and

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<v Speaker 2>dates on those if if you'd like, absolutely we had

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<v Speaker 2>to go through the list. That first one, that big

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<v Speaker 2>power knock where hits the tree twice and the tree falls.

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<v Speaker 2>That was in June of twenty twenty one. That was

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<v Speaker 2>two fifteen in the morning. That second one, that close

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<v Speaker 2>by one, that was just last October, the October of

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty four, and that was four forty five in

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<v Speaker 2>the morning. That was that was pretty close.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to I'm going to play the second one again.

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<v Speaker 1>It just it sounds really interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think that was hit on something? Would or

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<v Speaker 1>or what? Do you think?

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<v Speaker 2>You know? I'm glad you asked that that. There's there's

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<v Speaker 2>tree knocks that I've heard in person before, and there's

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<v Speaker 2>three knocks that have gotten on audio recorded that you

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<v Speaker 2>can definitely tell that it is a stick or branch

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<v Speaker 2>hitting a tree. It's just that would knock tone tone

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<v Speaker 2>to it. And sometimes when that happens, if if you

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<v Speaker 2>ever hit if you ever go out in the woods

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<v Speaker 2>and you find a you know, like a four foot

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<v Speaker 2>or a four three foot branch and hitting it as

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<v Speaker 2>a tree, but the top part might break off. In

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<v Speaker 2>some audio recordings that I've gotten, it's it's definitely a

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<v Speaker 2>tree would hitting a tree, and then sometimes you can

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<v Speaker 2>hear that part kind of break off. Now that recording there,

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<v Speaker 2>I've heard in person before, and I've also got this.

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<v Speaker 4>Same tone way back out in the woods probably I

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<v Speaker 4>think it was in twenty twenty three, but it's that

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<v Speaker 4>same tone, but it does have kind of like a

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<v Speaker 4>metallic kind of kind of undertone to it.

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<v Speaker 2>So really not sure. But but to back it up,

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<v Speaker 2>I've heard that before. I've I've had friends out there

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<v Speaker 2>that has heard that tone before, and I picked up

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<v Speaker 2>that tone also back out in a different, even even

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<v Speaker 2>more remote area.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's continue here. Next step, we've got it, says

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<v Speaker 1>knock in a whistle from twenty two. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>try these here. That first one really has a baseball

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<v Speaker 1>bat type quality to it.

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<v Speaker 2>That was back in descent. It was actually December twenty ninth,

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty two, and that was caught. I think it

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<v Speaker 2>was nine to fifteen PM, and that was in the

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<v Speaker 2>same area that my first audio recording or the thing

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<v Speaker 2>walked and then did did the two tree knocks, that

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<v Speaker 2>was right in that same area. So yeah, it actually

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<v Speaker 2>sounds like maybe it hit a tree and some dead

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<v Speaker 2>leaves from the tree came down and fell, and then

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<v Speaker 2>that whistle, same recorder, same location, forty five minutes later,

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<v Speaker 2>was was the whistle?

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<v Speaker 1>What's the What type of recorder are you using?

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<v Speaker 2>I used a little Sony. It's nothing really spectacular. I

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<v Speaker 2>think it probably you can probably pick one up for

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<v Speaker 2>about sixty five bucks. I don't I don't have the

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<v Speaker 2>item number. It's just it's just a little rectangle shape

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<v Speaker 2>sony recorder. I usually put it in a if you

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<v Speaker 2>go to the eye doctor, he might give you like

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<v Speaker 2>a cloth sleeve. I just slip slipper rickon sleeve and

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes I run an external microphone. But just yeah, just

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<v Speaker 2>just a little Sony. It's it's really not hard to

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting. These are These are really good. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>continue here. This one's a little bit longer. Maybe some whoops,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll see what we got here. Oh, you're still there. Nope, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, let's call him back real quick. Sure, got hey,

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<v Speaker 1>no problem happens all the time for some reason or another. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm used to it, all right, So I think these

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<v Speaker 1>this next one is a little bit longer. I just

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<v Speaker 1>want to make sure. Okay, audio is still coming through. Good.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's play this guy here.

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<v Speaker 3>Houck house. What's up?

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<v Speaker 2>What fu?

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<v Speaker 3>Hos f.

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<v Speaker 2>W co.

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<v Speaker 3>Relation this?

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<v Speaker 2>You?

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<v Speaker 3>You didn't?

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<v Speaker 1>So that was really interesting? What did we have going

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<v Speaker 1>on there?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay? That was that was recorded in an area which

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<v Speaker 2>I believe that there was a juvenile land for a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of years, just kind of like hanging out. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think it's back there now because a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>the activity back in that area is kind of decreased. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>the backstory on that is, back in twenty twenty, we

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<v Speaker 2>found some footprints along that one service road that I

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<v Speaker 2>was talking about. It was it rained the night before

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<v Speaker 2>and now I was out there with about three other

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<v Speaker 2>people came across some footprints. It appeared that it was

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<v Speaker 2>walking along the service road. It had stepped in the

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<v Speaker 2>service road with its right foot, went down to the creek,

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<v Speaker 2>had a slipprint down to the creek and then it

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<v Speaker 2>came back up the same way it had stepped on

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<v Speaker 2>with another part of the service road, whereas you can

423
00:25:49.880 --> 00:25:53.079
<v Speaker 2>able to see the footprint with its left foot. The

424
00:25:54.640 --> 00:25:57.119
<v Speaker 2>measurements of the footprint were twelve and a half It

425
00:25:57.240 --> 00:26:00.599
<v Speaker 2>was five and a half inches wide. So the summer

426
00:26:00.839 --> 00:26:05.960
<v Speaker 2>of twenty twenty two when that was recorded, it was

427
00:26:06.000 --> 00:26:11.640
<v Speaker 2>a real dry year here and the creek not a

428
00:26:11.680 --> 00:26:13.160
<v Speaker 2>lot of water in the creek, so there's a lot

429
00:26:13.200 --> 00:26:17.000
<v Speaker 2>of exposed creek beds, and over the summer, I was

430
00:26:17.200 --> 00:26:22.000
<v Speaker 2>noticing that same size footprint up in a couple different

431
00:26:22.039 --> 00:26:27.440
<v Speaker 2>areas of the creek bed. Not anywhees near the trails,

432
00:26:28.599 --> 00:26:31.279
<v Speaker 2>and it appeared like it came down off of one

433
00:26:31.319 --> 00:26:33.640
<v Speaker 2>of the bluffs and it had stepped in going down

434
00:26:33.680 --> 00:26:36.440
<v Speaker 2>to the creek. So I was going to meet a

435
00:26:36.519 --> 00:26:38.160
<v Speaker 2>friend of mine. This is going back. I think it

436
00:26:38.319 --> 00:26:40.480
<v Speaker 2>was in It may be in August. Yeah, August of

437
00:26:40.559 --> 00:26:43.559
<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty two. We had got a campsite there, and

438
00:26:43.880 --> 00:26:46.000
<v Speaker 2>we usually do is hit a campsite and then we'll

439
00:26:46.000 --> 00:26:47.720
<v Speaker 2>head out in the trails, head out in the woods

440
00:26:47.759 --> 00:26:50.359
<v Speaker 2>with thermal equipment trying to see if we can see anything.

441
00:26:51.480 --> 00:26:54.440
<v Speaker 2>So I had got there. I think it was about

442
00:26:54.480 --> 00:26:57.920
<v Speaker 2>five point thirty. I went down to the creek and

443
00:26:58.079 --> 00:27:01.680
<v Speaker 2>I think I was probably about fifty feet from the

444
00:27:01.839 --> 00:27:03.960
<v Speaker 2>edge of the creek, and there's there's there's not a

445
00:27:04.240 --> 00:27:07.319
<v Speaker 2>not a soul around, not a carner parking lot, and

446
00:27:07.920 --> 00:27:10.720
<v Speaker 2>on the other side of the creek. All of a sudden,

447
00:27:11.920 --> 00:27:14.240
<v Speaker 2>it sounds like someone took a baseball bat and just

448
00:27:14.359 --> 00:27:16.920
<v Speaker 2>hits a tree. The tree starts to break. Can hear

449
00:27:16.960 --> 00:27:20.240
<v Speaker 2>the fibers in the in the tree cracking. The tree

450
00:27:20.279 --> 00:27:25.440
<v Speaker 2>did not fall. I pretty much went downstream, hooked the

451
00:27:25.519 --> 00:27:29.359
<v Speaker 2>audio recorder up back up in the woods, came back upstream,

452
00:27:29.480 --> 00:27:32.039
<v Speaker 2>got my hip waiters on, went down into the into

453
00:27:32.119 --> 00:27:35.720
<v Speaker 2>the creek to try to find some prince. All when

454
00:27:35.759 --> 00:27:39.480
<v Speaker 2>this is happening, you can literally hear something back up.

455
00:27:40.720 --> 00:27:43.400
<v Speaker 2>It's it wasn't close up, but it was back aways,

456
00:27:44.119 --> 00:27:48.240
<v Speaker 2>just going through the dry leafletter, just pacing back and forth.

457
00:27:48.920 --> 00:27:51.279
<v Speaker 2>When with a friend of mine got there, I was

458
00:27:51.319 --> 00:27:53.839
<v Speaker 2>still up, still down into the creek looking for prince.

459
00:27:53.880 --> 00:27:55.960
<v Speaker 2>He was up on top the probably about an eight

460
00:27:56.000 --> 00:27:57.839
<v Speaker 2>foot bank, you know, from from the bottom up to

461
00:27:58.240 --> 00:28:01.319
<v Speaker 2>your first level, and he livery said, Johnny, there's something

462
00:28:01.400 --> 00:28:04.240
<v Speaker 2>back there walking. It was just walk pacing back and forth.

463
00:28:04.279 --> 00:28:08.160
<v Speaker 2>You can hear the occasional branch break. We left the area.

464
00:28:09.200 --> 00:28:12.079
<v Speaker 2>There was a tree knock thirty minutes after we left

465
00:28:12.119 --> 00:28:19.400
<v Speaker 2>the area. That recording there happened at midnight. Now that area,

466
00:28:19.559 --> 00:28:21.359
<v Speaker 2>like I said, I believe was a juvenile was hanging

467
00:28:21.440 --> 00:28:24.279
<v Speaker 2>back out there. Evidence wise, I found a couple of

468
00:28:24.319 --> 00:28:27.440
<v Speaker 2>eight inch footprints back now this is going back twenty

469
00:28:27.519 --> 00:28:32.799
<v Speaker 2>twenty and recently last year found some nine inch footprints

470
00:28:32.960 --> 00:28:35.720
<v Speaker 2>down into the creek bed and also at the bottom

471
00:28:35.799 --> 00:28:40.759
<v Speaker 2>of like like a mud patch, and possibly as possibly

472
00:28:40.920 --> 00:28:45.359
<v Speaker 2>that could have been the juvenile either mimicking or calling

473
00:28:46.039 --> 00:28:49.599
<v Speaker 2>an owl, because the owl at the end pretty much

474
00:28:49.640 --> 00:28:52.960
<v Speaker 2>answers it. I've been doing this for five years. I've

475
00:28:53.079 --> 00:28:56.680
<v Speaker 2>never heard that before. Absolutely never heard that before. And

476
00:28:56.960 --> 00:29:00.079
<v Speaker 2>that last tree knock that was the same location, the

477
00:29:00.119 --> 00:29:02.599
<v Speaker 2>same reporter, that was at six fifty in the morning.

478
00:29:02.880 --> 00:29:04.720
<v Speaker 2>That was when that tree not happened.

479
00:29:07.079 --> 00:29:09.960
<v Speaker 1>Some wild stuff. Do you ever hear owls out there

480
00:29:10.119 --> 00:29:13.880
<v Speaker 1>that sound like extremely large? Do you ever run into

481
00:29:13.960 --> 00:29:14.440
<v Speaker 1>that at all?

482
00:29:16.079 --> 00:29:18.279
<v Speaker 2>Not often? I mean, here are a lot of owls

483
00:29:18.319 --> 00:29:22.839
<v Speaker 2>out there, maybe here one that's deeper tone than others,

484
00:29:23.440 --> 00:29:25.480
<v Speaker 2>But nothing that would really stand out.

485
00:29:25.400 --> 00:29:29.799
<v Speaker 1>Though, gotcha. Well, we've just got a few more sounds

486
00:29:29.839 --> 00:29:32.680
<v Speaker 1>to go through. I'd say, let's go right through them here.

487
00:29:33.039 --> 00:29:35.319
<v Speaker 1>I want to make sure we get them all. So

488
00:29:35.640 --> 00:29:39.079
<v Speaker 1>let's see. Next one's about thirty four seconds. I'm going

489
00:29:39.119 --> 00:30:19.079
<v Speaker 1>to play that here. We've got two different whoop styles

490
00:30:19.119 --> 00:30:19.559
<v Speaker 1>in that one.

491
00:30:21.039 --> 00:30:24.599
<v Speaker 2>That was That was March of last year, Big.

492
00:30:24.519 --> 00:30:27.519
<v Speaker 1>For Society will be right back after these messages.

493
00:30:43.240 --> 00:30:45.200
<v Speaker 2>And I had two recorders set up. They were about

494
00:30:45.240 --> 00:30:47.920
<v Speaker 2>three hundred yards apart. I think it had been about

495
00:30:47.960 --> 00:30:51.680
<v Speaker 2>like ten pm at night. That higher pitch whoop that

496
00:30:51.799 --> 00:30:53.720
<v Speaker 2>kept the higher pitch one that just kept on going.

497
00:30:56.200 --> 00:30:59.119
<v Speaker 2>I think that that was the juvenile. It was either

498
00:30:59.200 --> 00:31:02.359
<v Speaker 2>back up on the blow for back up up up

499
00:31:02.400 --> 00:31:04.680
<v Speaker 2>in the up in the forest. But at the end

500
00:31:04.720 --> 00:31:05.960
<v Speaker 2>of that clip, I don't know, I don't know how

501
00:31:06.200 --> 00:31:09.799
<v Speaker 2>how clear it came out, but there was a response

502
00:31:09.880 --> 00:31:12.680
<v Speaker 2>in an adult one whooping back at it. And I

503
00:31:12.759 --> 00:31:16.240
<v Speaker 2>think the next the next audio reporter or next audio

504
00:31:16.279 --> 00:31:19.240
<v Speaker 2>clip I sent you was actually the adult doing a whoop.

505
00:31:20.440 --> 00:31:21.440
<v Speaker 1>All right, let's see here.

506
00:31:24.480 --> 00:31:25.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's it, that's it.

507
00:31:26.000 --> 00:31:32.519
<v Speaker 1>I do that a few more times here. M Oh,

508
00:31:32.599 --> 00:31:35.599
<v Speaker 1>that's wild. Oh man, if I I've never heard anything

509
00:31:35.720 --> 00:31:38.039
<v Speaker 1>like that out in the woods. Well, I mean I've

510
00:31:38.079 --> 00:31:41.880
<v Speaker 1>heard a roar, scream, but no, no, like like this is.

511
00:31:42.000 --> 00:31:45.920
<v Speaker 1>This is a pretty interesting whoop that you've been capturing here.

512
00:31:46.119 --> 00:31:48.799
<v Speaker 1>And man, I don't know how I would how I

513
00:31:48.839 --> 00:31:51.000
<v Speaker 1>would deal with that. That would be pretty cool. It

514
00:31:51.359 --> 00:31:53.960
<v Speaker 1>almost makes you think you're at the zoo for a minute.

515
00:31:55.000 --> 00:31:57.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, Like I said that, I had the recorders

516
00:31:57.640 --> 00:32:02.000
<v Speaker 2>about three hundred yards away, the small one if the

517
00:32:02.200 --> 00:32:06.920
<v Speaker 2>higher pitch woops, it came louder. The one record I

518
00:32:06.960 --> 00:32:10.839
<v Speaker 2>head upstream, the adult woop if you want to call

519
00:32:10.880 --> 00:32:13.759
<v Speaker 2>it that. Both recorders the three hundred yards away picked

520
00:32:13.759 --> 00:32:16.400
<v Speaker 2>it up. So it was either between the two recorders

521
00:32:17.079 --> 00:32:18.640
<v Speaker 2>or I could have been back up on one of

522
00:32:18.680 --> 00:32:22.000
<v Speaker 2>the bluffs. But both recorders picked them up. And I

523
00:32:22.039 --> 00:32:24.359
<v Speaker 2>think that last one with the whoop, that was in

524
00:32:24.400 --> 00:32:26.319
<v Speaker 2>a different location. It's probably about a mile and a

525
00:32:26.359 --> 00:32:30.960
<v Speaker 2>half away, and that was in November of last year.

526
00:32:31.400 --> 00:32:34.240
<v Speaker 1>Okay, let's see we got another wop here. I'm gonna

527
00:32:34.240 --> 00:32:44.440
<v Speaker 1>go ahead and play that. That's fantastic, Holy macrel.

528
00:32:44.599 --> 00:32:46.240
<v Speaker 2>Yes, wow, that's a good one.

529
00:32:47.039 --> 00:32:49.640
<v Speaker 1>That's I mean, have you ever looked at these in audacity?

530
00:32:49.759 --> 00:32:53.000
<v Speaker 1>Or anything. I don't know if you're familiar with how.

531
00:32:52.880 --> 00:32:56.039
<v Speaker 2>To do that. I'm kind of like a beginner on

532
00:32:56.319 --> 00:32:59.440
<v Speaker 2>the audacity. Okay, so I kind of played around with

533
00:32:59.480 --> 00:33:01.839
<v Speaker 2>it a little bit, but I for sure have not

534
00:33:02.000 --> 00:33:03.799
<v Speaker 2>mastered it. I have not mastered it at all.

535
00:33:04.559 --> 00:33:30.400
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna go ahead, do the last one here. Holy shit, Yeah,

536
00:33:35.200 --> 00:33:36.079
<v Speaker 1>that is so cool.

537
00:33:38.880 --> 00:33:43.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I used to work midnight shift a lot, and

538
00:33:43.519 --> 00:33:46.480
<v Speaker 2>I would come off midnight shift. I'd go up to

539
00:33:46.640 --> 00:33:50.119
<v Speaker 2>this small parking lot up up where I go. I

540
00:33:50.200 --> 00:33:51.759
<v Speaker 2>get up there first thing in the morning, eight o'clock

541
00:33:51.759 --> 00:33:53.960
<v Speaker 2>in the morning, and you'd be the only one out there.

542
00:33:55.119 --> 00:33:57.519
<v Speaker 2>And it's a short walk down to the creek, like

543
00:33:57.559 --> 00:34:00.319
<v Speaker 2>I said about, probably about eight ten minute walk, but

544
00:34:01.400 --> 00:34:04.480
<v Speaker 2>three or four, especially in the summertime. Three or four

545
00:34:04.599 --> 00:34:07.960
<v Speaker 2>times you get there, get out of the car, you

546
00:34:08.159 --> 00:34:10.800
<v Speaker 2>pop your trunk open, you'll hear this crisp tree knock

547
00:34:11.320 --> 00:34:16.800
<v Speaker 2>coming back in the woods, just as crystal clear as possible. Now,

548
00:34:16.840 --> 00:34:20.320
<v Speaker 2>I was going there for three I was hooked. I

549
00:34:20.400 --> 00:34:23.119
<v Speaker 2>was going there for like three or four days a week.

550
00:34:23.880 --> 00:34:28.440
<v Speaker 2>So I had figured maybe they had recognized me from

551
00:34:28.480 --> 00:34:30.840
<v Speaker 2>coming into the area, and maybe they were giving me

552
00:34:30.920 --> 00:34:35.000
<v Speaker 2>like a low knock. But I had talked to this

553
00:34:35.800 --> 00:34:38.559
<v Speaker 2>other big foot researchers got many many years over me,

554
00:34:38.840 --> 00:34:43.079
<v Speaker 2>and they suggested that they're doing a knock just to

555
00:34:43.239 --> 00:34:45.880
<v Speaker 2>warn if there's another one in the area that there's

556
00:34:45.880 --> 00:34:53.679
<v Speaker 2>a human coming in. That's why they do that single knock. Interesting,

557
00:34:53.960 --> 00:34:56.760
<v Speaker 2>but that audio click there went down to the creek,

558
00:34:56.920 --> 00:34:58.320
<v Speaker 2>I didn't have any of my equipment with me. I

559
00:34:58.440 --> 00:35:00.840
<v Speaker 2>was basically just got off for work one up there.

560
00:35:00.920 --> 00:35:03.159
<v Speaker 2>I wanted to go down take a look in the

561
00:35:03.519 --> 00:35:05.559
<v Speaker 2>creek bed just just to see if anything was stepping

562
00:35:05.599 --> 00:35:08.079
<v Speaker 2>out that night. And I didn't even have a tree

563
00:35:08.159 --> 00:35:11.119
<v Speaker 2>knocker with me, and I usually get to one part

564
00:35:11.280 --> 00:35:13.559
<v Speaker 2>of the creek and I might hear a knock come

565
00:35:14.400 --> 00:35:17.079
<v Speaker 2>up on the other side, back up in the woods.

566
00:35:17.119 --> 00:35:20.039
<v Speaker 2>So went down there and didn't hear anything. So I

567
00:35:20.159 --> 00:35:23.960
<v Speaker 2>started to go downstream, and as soon as I started

568
00:35:24.000 --> 00:35:26.800
<v Speaker 2>going downstream, there was a knock other side of the creek.

569
00:35:27.360 --> 00:35:30.280
<v Speaker 2>I'd have to see maybe one hundred and fifty maybe

570
00:35:30.280 --> 00:35:34.679
<v Speaker 2>about one hundred yards down it knocked. So the only

571
00:35:34.760 --> 00:35:36.320
<v Speaker 2>thing I had to do was I was just doing

572
00:35:36.440 --> 00:35:40.639
<v Speaker 2>like the cheek pops, So I was cheek popping. We

573
00:35:41.159 --> 00:35:43.400
<v Speaker 2>kind of passed each other. We were kind of parallel,

574
00:35:44.639 --> 00:35:47.000
<v Speaker 2>did the cheek pop, it knocked back. I went down

575
00:35:47.079 --> 00:35:49.760
<v Speaker 2>to where it was initially it was back up where

576
00:35:49.840 --> 00:35:53.280
<v Speaker 2>I was, and it did it again. Then I came

577
00:35:53.360 --> 00:35:57.440
<v Speaker 2>back up and just sat on the creek bed and

578
00:35:57.800 --> 00:36:00.599
<v Speaker 2>just on hopes. I had a little pair of just

579
00:36:00.679 --> 00:36:03.880
<v Speaker 2>on hopes that maybe I could see something. Maybe. I mean,

580
00:36:03.960 --> 00:36:06.360
<v Speaker 2>it hit is so thick out there in the summertime,

581
00:36:06.960 --> 00:36:10.039
<v Speaker 2>but that one there was the last pop. I was

582
00:36:10.079 --> 00:36:13.000
<v Speaker 2>doing the cheek pop and then you hear the hawks squawking,

583
00:36:13.559 --> 00:36:15.960
<v Speaker 2>and then it knocked back on one of the bigger

584
00:36:16.039 --> 00:36:18.800
<v Speaker 2>trees back up on one of the bluffs there.

585
00:36:21.039 --> 00:36:23.239
<v Speaker 1>Is that the I mean, if that happened to me,

586
00:36:23.400 --> 00:36:26.199
<v Speaker 1>it would feel like there's a communication going back and forth.

587
00:36:26.320 --> 00:36:30.239
<v Speaker 1>Have you experienced anything else like that in that area before,

588
00:36:30.400 --> 00:36:32.440
<v Speaker 1>or is that a pretty rare occurrence?

589
00:36:34.199 --> 00:36:36.760
<v Speaker 2>That was probably the best one. The only other thing

590
00:36:36.840 --> 00:36:38.920
<v Speaker 2>that I've experienced is just when you're in the area,

591
00:36:39.039 --> 00:36:42.480
<v Speaker 2>you'll hear a tree knock. It could be close up

592
00:36:42.519 --> 00:36:44.559
<v Speaker 2>in the woods, it could be other side of the creek,

593
00:36:45.079 --> 00:36:49.360
<v Speaker 2>up on the one of the bluffs. Never had any

594
00:36:49.480 --> 00:36:52.360
<v Speaker 2>kind of other interaction. I thought for sure that day

595
00:36:52.480 --> 00:36:55.239
<v Speaker 2>there that one was going to come up and like

596
00:36:55.360 --> 00:36:57.719
<v Speaker 2>look over and check me out or something. But that

597
00:36:57.920 --> 00:37:01.360
<v Speaker 2>was pretty much just just cheep popping back and forth

598
00:37:01.480 --> 00:37:05.079
<v Speaker 2>with that thing. That was probably the most interesting interaction. Now.

599
00:37:05.320 --> 00:37:09.199
<v Speaker 2>I was there summer of twenty twenty three. We had

600
00:37:09.440 --> 00:37:13.000
<v Speaker 2>a big storm comes through the area and got up

601
00:37:13.000 --> 00:37:14.960
<v Speaker 2>there one morning and I wanted to check to see

602
00:37:14.960 --> 00:37:17.480
<v Speaker 2>if there was any footprints up on the trails. So

603
00:37:18.199 --> 00:37:22.880
<v Speaker 2>pulled into the parking lot and at the time, it's

604
00:37:23.039 --> 00:37:27.079
<v Speaker 2>it's it's a small parking lot, probably fifteen twenty cars

605
00:37:27.159 --> 00:37:31.360
<v Speaker 2>probably probably parked there. You'd be maxed out. But at

606
00:37:31.400 --> 00:37:33.880
<v Speaker 2>the beginning at the front end of the parking lot

607
00:37:33.960 --> 00:37:36.840
<v Speaker 2>there was a state truck and there was also a

608
00:37:36.880 --> 00:37:38.960
<v Speaker 2>guy in a caboda and he had a chainsaw on

609
00:37:39.039 --> 00:37:41.840
<v Speaker 2>the back, so they were kind of like talking back

610
00:37:41.880 --> 00:37:43.639
<v Speaker 2>and forth. So I was under the assumption that he's

611
00:37:43.639 --> 00:37:45.639
<v Speaker 2>probably going to go and do some trailer maintenance after

612
00:37:45.719 --> 00:37:49.280
<v Speaker 2>the storm. And the koboda was running, so it's got

613
00:37:49.320 --> 00:37:53.760
<v Speaker 2>a loud engine. So I parked back as far as

614
00:37:53.800 --> 00:37:56.599
<v Speaker 2>I could, right against the tree line, started getting my

615
00:37:56.599 --> 00:37:58.920
<v Speaker 2>stuff out, open up my trunk, and here comes a

616
00:37:59.039 --> 00:38:02.440
<v Speaker 2>knock in the woods or back where I was it

617
00:38:02.559 --> 00:38:05.559
<v Speaker 2>was louded. I mean, actually it actually sounded like it

618
00:38:05.679 --> 00:38:07.800
<v Speaker 2>hit a branch first and then it hit the tree.

619
00:38:08.559 --> 00:38:11.320
<v Speaker 2>So I immediately like looked at them. I'm like, do

620
00:38:11.400 --> 00:38:14.119
<v Speaker 2>you guys not hear that or not? But the sound

621
00:38:14.199 --> 00:38:17.199
<v Speaker 2>of the the engine and a koboda was just like drowning,

622
00:38:17.360 --> 00:38:19.920
<v Speaker 2>drowning it out to them. I went up to the

623
00:38:19.960 --> 00:38:23.039
<v Speaker 2>tree line. I had my thermal and where that location is.

624
00:38:23.159 --> 00:38:25.960
<v Speaker 2>You're up on a parking lot and it kind of

625
00:38:26.039 --> 00:38:30.159
<v Speaker 2>like it's a gradual slope down to the creek. Didn't

626
00:38:30.159 --> 00:38:34.239
<v Speaker 2>see anything on thermal. I went back. I actually and

627
00:38:34.800 --> 00:38:37.280
<v Speaker 2>I yelled, and I yelled into the trees. I said,

628
00:38:37.320 --> 00:38:41.880
<v Speaker 2>where are you at? And then I heard a grunt

629
00:38:42.880 --> 00:38:45.039
<v Speaker 2>of a pause and then a low growl, So it

630
00:38:45.119 --> 00:38:48.960
<v Speaker 2>was a grunt pause, low growl. Back went back to

631
00:38:49.039 --> 00:38:52.079
<v Speaker 2>my car, started getting all my gear up and ready

632
00:38:52.119 --> 00:38:54.719
<v Speaker 2>to roll. By that time, the guy in the caboda

633
00:38:55.039 --> 00:38:58.760
<v Speaker 2>was right at the trailhead and going down one of

634
00:38:58.800 --> 00:39:02.239
<v Speaker 2>the trails. And then another tree dock comes back, but

635
00:39:02.360 --> 00:39:04.920
<v Speaker 2>this time it was more toward the right and more

636
00:39:05.079 --> 00:39:08.239
<v Speaker 2>toward back. More so I'm thinking that there was one

637
00:39:08.320 --> 00:39:11.920
<v Speaker 2>out there that morning. The guy in the Koboda's scooped them.

638
00:39:12.719 --> 00:39:15.679
<v Speaker 2>So that that's that's that's a pretty good area in

639
00:39:15.760 --> 00:39:16.239
<v Speaker 2>the mornings.

640
00:39:17.239 --> 00:39:19.559
<v Speaker 1>That's wild. Do you have a recording at all of

641
00:39:19.840 --> 00:39:22.079
<v Speaker 1>of the that grunt interaction?

642
00:39:23.360 --> 00:39:26.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't. I don't. I I had popped my trunk

643
00:39:26.960 --> 00:39:28.760
<v Speaker 2>open and was just trying to get off all my

644
00:39:29.039 --> 00:39:32.039
<v Speaker 2>my gear and then I heard the knock, went over

645
00:39:32.079 --> 00:39:34.280
<v Speaker 2>there with my thermal. I didn't even have my record

646
00:39:34.400 --> 00:39:35.000
<v Speaker 2>or anything going.

647
00:39:36.519 --> 00:39:39.360
<v Speaker 1>So this this reminds me of something I've heard from

648
00:39:39.519 --> 00:39:44.039
<v Speaker 1>the Olympic Project guys Chris Spencer. So what they say,

649
00:39:44.159 --> 00:39:46.679
<v Speaker 1>and they've they've said this a few different times, and

650
00:39:46.800 --> 00:39:49.199
<v Speaker 1>I try to keep it in mind when I go

651
00:39:49.360 --> 00:39:52.199
<v Speaker 1>out is a lot of the stuff that they get

652
00:39:52.480 --> 00:39:55.880
<v Speaker 1>is right when they get out of the car is

653
00:39:56.239 --> 00:40:00.559
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of it's almost like hey, he's they're back,

654
00:40:00.639 --> 00:40:03.119
<v Speaker 1>you know. And so usually they have they'll have something

655
00:40:03.239 --> 00:40:06.840
<v Speaker 1>run and like on their head, which would you know,

656
00:40:07.079 --> 00:40:10.400
<v Speaker 1>just to make sure they catch it. But that's wild.

657
00:40:10.639 --> 00:40:13.159
<v Speaker 1>I used to do a call in show and I

658
00:40:13.280 --> 00:40:16.000
<v Speaker 1>would have all sorts of people call in to talk,

659
00:40:16.079 --> 00:40:18.760
<v Speaker 1>and I had this old timer callin from North Carolina

660
00:40:18.840 --> 00:40:22.679
<v Speaker 1>wants talking about how he would go out in the

661
00:40:22.840 --> 00:40:28.760
<v Speaker 1>US and have some really interesting interactions. And it was

662
00:40:28.920 --> 00:40:32.880
<v Speaker 1>to the fact where he was even having conversations with

663
00:40:33.360 --> 00:40:35.880
<v Speaker 1>your I don't know what you would call him down there,

664
00:40:35.880 --> 00:40:39.119
<v Speaker 1>if you have, like park rangers or for forestry workers

665
00:40:39.199 --> 00:40:41.920
<v Speaker 1>or whatever they would be called, but it sounded like

666
00:40:42.199 --> 00:40:45.719
<v Speaker 1>from the way that this old timer was talking is

667
00:40:45.800 --> 00:40:50.360
<v Speaker 1>that they are well aware of the different types of

668
00:40:51.159 --> 00:40:54.840
<v Speaker 1>bigfoot that are down there, how they act, what they're like,

669
00:40:55.320 --> 00:40:59.239
<v Speaker 1>and they're just very, very familiar with them. Have you

670
00:40:59.320 --> 00:41:01.719
<v Speaker 1>ever picked up on anything like that or had any

671
00:41:01.800 --> 00:41:03.000
<v Speaker 1>conversations yourself?

672
00:41:04.920 --> 00:41:09.000
<v Speaker 2>Uh? Yeah, had I'm well, this really wasn't a I

673
00:41:09.079 --> 00:41:11.679
<v Speaker 2>met they were doing a control burn up here a

674
00:41:11.719 --> 00:41:15.239
<v Speaker 2>couple years ago in twenty twenty three and ran into

675
00:41:15.360 --> 00:41:17.199
<v Speaker 2>want to be a forest somebody that works for the

676
00:41:17.239 --> 00:41:20.880
<v Speaker 2>forest Apartment, But he basically said be careful, and I

677
00:41:20.960 --> 00:41:24.239
<v Speaker 2>told him I pretty much knew what's out here. We

678
00:41:24.679 --> 00:41:28.079
<v Speaker 2>had conversations with the park rangers. They said that they

679
00:41:28.199 --> 00:41:33.519
<v Speaker 2>cannot say that they exist because it's in it's not

680
00:41:33.679 --> 00:41:37.719
<v Speaker 2>a proven species, but they're not Let's see how I

681
00:41:37.840 --> 00:41:41.880
<v Speaker 2>want to say this. I think they know, they pretty

682
00:41:41.960 --> 00:41:45.159
<v Speaker 2>much act like they know they but they're there. They

683
00:41:45.280 --> 00:41:48.679
<v Speaker 2>just cannot come out and say it's there because it's

684
00:41:48.840 --> 00:41:51.239
<v Speaker 2>it's not a proven species. And I think it's got

685
00:41:51.280 --> 00:41:53.880
<v Speaker 2>a lot to do with public opinion. I mean, if

686
00:41:53.880 --> 00:41:56.960
<v Speaker 2>they say, you know, big foot's running through the park here,

687
00:41:57.039 --> 00:41:59.079
<v Speaker 2>you know, there's probably not going to be it's probably

688
00:41:59.079 --> 00:42:03.440
<v Speaker 2>going to slow down travel in there. But I my

689
00:42:03.800 --> 00:42:05.760
<v Speaker 2>f from when I can get I think that they know,

690
00:42:05.920 --> 00:42:08.760
<v Speaker 2>but they just cannot come out and say this is

691
00:42:08.840 --> 00:42:09.320
<v Speaker 2>what's going on.

692
00:42:11.800 --> 00:42:15.440
<v Speaker 1>Wow. So you've actually had those conversations with people in

693
00:42:15.559 --> 00:42:15.920
<v Speaker 1>the park.

694
00:42:17.559 --> 00:42:21.800
<v Speaker 2>They're they're actually very comfortable talking to us about it.

695
00:42:22.320 --> 00:42:24.760
<v Speaker 2>I mean we talk and they listen, and they don't,

696
00:42:25.840 --> 00:42:27.719
<v Speaker 2>you know, shoe us off and say, hey, you're you're

697
00:42:27.760 --> 00:42:29.880
<v Speaker 2>crazy to get out of here. They're very they're very

698
00:42:29.960 --> 00:42:33.679
<v Speaker 2>open to it conversation wise.

699
00:42:33.840 --> 00:42:36.519
<v Speaker 1>That's crazy. I know that's the case with places like

700
00:42:36.760 --> 00:42:41.039
<v Speaker 1>Saltfolk State Park up in Ohio, but I was not

701
00:42:41.239 --> 00:42:46.320
<v Speaker 1>really aware that it's also the same case down down

702
00:42:46.400 --> 00:42:48.719
<v Speaker 1>there in North Carolina. And are you a type of

703
00:42:48.760 --> 00:42:51.320
<v Speaker 1>guy that you have like big footstickers on your truck

704
00:42:51.480 --> 00:42:55.039
<v Speaker 1>or it just it's just naturally Okay, Yeah, yeah, I gotcha.

705
00:42:55.280 --> 00:42:57.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I got a couple of big footstickers on

706
00:42:57.760 --> 00:43:00.679
<v Speaker 2>my car. Yeah. I think also it depends on where

707
00:43:00.679 --> 00:43:04.320
<v Speaker 2>you go to I mean where I go, they might

708
00:43:04.360 --> 00:43:07.119
<v Speaker 2>be more open to talk about it or not talk

709
00:43:07.159 --> 00:43:10.880
<v Speaker 2>about it, but like accepted. But if you go, you know,

710
00:43:11.079 --> 00:43:14.519
<v Speaker 2>other places in the state, they might be more defensive

711
00:43:14.519 --> 00:43:18.239
<v Speaker 2>about it. I guess we got a good group up

712
00:43:18.280 --> 00:43:18.599
<v Speaker 2>this way.

713
00:43:19.480 --> 00:43:22.760
<v Speaker 1>That's that's good. Are there a lot of visuals that

714
00:43:22.920 --> 00:43:24.840
<v Speaker 1>are reported from that area ever?

715
00:43:26.480 --> 00:43:29.480
<v Speaker 2>Actually, one gentleman, his name is Stephen Barcelo, who runs

716
00:43:29.519 --> 00:43:35.280
<v Speaker 2>the Cryptozoology per Normal Museum. He's got some thermal footage

717
00:43:35.320 --> 00:43:37.440
<v Speaker 2>that he's gotten up one I think it was back

718
00:43:37.519 --> 00:43:41.039
<v Speaker 2>in fall of I think it was fall of twenty twenty.

719
00:43:41.639 --> 00:43:43.519
<v Speaker 2>There was a three day camp out. I was there

720
00:43:43.599 --> 00:43:45.960
<v Speaker 2>for the first For the first day we kind of

721
00:43:46.039 --> 00:43:48.840
<v Speaker 2>like split up into two groups. The group that I

722
00:43:49.000 --> 00:43:52.119
<v Speaker 2>was with kind of took took the high way or

723
00:43:52.239 --> 00:43:55.440
<v Speaker 2>took the high road up the bluffs, and the group

724
00:43:55.480 --> 00:43:58.239
<v Speaker 2>that Steven was with they kind of like went around

725
00:43:58.360 --> 00:44:00.920
<v Speaker 2>and stayed down by the creek and they were hearing

726
00:44:01.000 --> 00:44:04.159
<v Speaker 2>some stuff the night that I was there. The second

727
00:44:04.280 --> 00:44:06.280
<v Speaker 2>night I had to go do some I had to

728
00:44:06.320 --> 00:44:09.159
<v Speaker 2>split so I wasn't there and it was a smaller group.

729
00:44:09.320 --> 00:44:11.559
<v Speaker 2>Steve Stephen and the guy that he was with went

730
00:44:11.639 --> 00:44:13.480
<v Speaker 2>back down to the area that the the arey and

731
00:44:13.599 --> 00:44:16.199
<v Speaker 2>that they were hearing some stuff on the night before,

732
00:44:17.280 --> 00:44:19.599
<v Speaker 2>and from what happened, a few guys went down to

733
00:44:19.679 --> 00:44:22.480
<v Speaker 2>the bottom of the bluff. They were making a bunch

734
00:44:22.480 --> 00:44:26.280
<v Speaker 2>of noise that either know, they're either talking or playing

735
00:44:26.840 --> 00:44:29.840
<v Speaker 2>some some instruments. Uh. The one one guy likes to

736
00:44:29.920 --> 00:44:34.679
<v Speaker 2>go out there and play Native American music. I guess

737
00:44:34.719 --> 00:44:37.239
<v Speaker 2>Steve Stephen hung back and he was the only one

738
00:44:37.280 --> 00:44:40.840
<v Speaker 2>with the thermal at that time, and something had come

739
00:44:40.920 --> 00:44:45.320
<v Speaker 2>up the bluff and was checking out the guys down below.

740
00:44:45.559 --> 00:44:48.599
<v Speaker 2>And he's got I think he's got like three pictures

741
00:44:48.639 --> 00:44:52.400
<v Speaker 2>of it. One of it is standing between two trees,

742
00:44:52.519 --> 00:44:55.320
<v Speaker 2>is kind of like out in the distance a little bit.

743
00:44:55.440 --> 00:44:57.679
<v Speaker 2>One of them is either either kneeling down in high

744
00:44:57.719 --> 00:45:00.519
<v Speaker 2>brush or in high brush. But he's got a really

745
00:45:00.639 --> 00:45:05.639
<v Speaker 2>really good picture of a side profile walking and it's

746
00:45:06.000 --> 00:45:09.159
<v Speaker 2>it's like a million dollar picture. But yeah, that's the

747
00:45:09.639 --> 00:45:11.239
<v Speaker 2>pictures that we've gotten out of there.

748
00:45:13.280 --> 00:45:16.360
<v Speaker 1>That's awesome. I met Steven a few years ago. He's

749
00:45:16.400 --> 00:45:19.360
<v Speaker 1>a great guy. I believe it was done in Lexington,

750
00:45:19.440 --> 00:45:23.880
<v Speaker 1>Kentucky at one of the cryptic con conferences Big for

751
00:45:24.039 --> 00:45:42.800
<v Speaker 1>Society will be right back after these messages. So I

752
00:45:42.920 --> 00:45:45.519
<v Speaker 1>need to reach out to him. And I've never actually

753
00:45:45.840 --> 00:45:48.400
<v Speaker 1>chatted with him on the show, I think, so we'll

754
00:45:48.480 --> 00:45:49.480
<v Speaker 1>have to make that happen.

755
00:45:50.760 --> 00:45:52.159
<v Speaker 2>Did he show you his strong picture?

756
00:45:52.639 --> 00:45:55.559
<v Speaker 1>You know, I don't think. I don't think. Man, that's

757
00:45:55.599 --> 00:46:00.199
<v Speaker 1>a good question. It's been a few years. I think

758
00:46:00.199 --> 00:46:03.639
<v Speaker 1>I would remember something like that really well. So I'm

759
00:46:03.639 --> 00:46:05.039
<v Speaker 1>going to say I don't think so.

760
00:46:05.559 --> 00:46:06.000
<v Speaker 2>But there was.

761
00:46:06.119 --> 00:46:07.599
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it was one of those things where it

762
00:46:07.719 --> 00:46:11.199
<v Speaker 1>was like twenty people hanging out in the bar and

763
00:46:11.360 --> 00:46:15.599
<v Speaker 1>there was everyone from Alex Pettakov to Eli Watson and

764
00:46:15.880 --> 00:46:20.320
<v Speaker 1>Mark Marcel and Seth Breedlove and all these all these

765
00:46:20.400 --> 00:46:23.239
<v Speaker 1>people all around you, Tim Hallery, and I'm gonna I'm

766
00:46:23.280 --> 00:46:24.679
<v Speaker 1>going to miss some people. But it was it was

767
00:46:24.760 --> 00:46:28.760
<v Speaker 1>one of those fun conversations that is hard to ever

768
00:46:28.920 --> 00:46:29.639
<v Speaker 1>have again.

769
00:46:30.480 --> 00:46:31.519
<v Speaker 2>Sure true.

770
00:46:32.559 --> 00:46:38.559
<v Speaker 1>Let's say a person comes up to you and is like, yes, Johnny,

771
00:46:40.079 --> 00:46:41.800
<v Speaker 1>if I want to go out and I want to

772
00:46:41.880 --> 00:46:45.880
<v Speaker 1>try to have an interaction with a bigfoot in this area,

773
00:46:46.039 --> 00:46:49.159
<v Speaker 1>how do you recommend that I'd do it? What's the

774
00:46:49.280 --> 00:46:50.599
<v Speaker 1>stuff that I need to try?

775
00:46:50.679 --> 00:46:55.320
<v Speaker 2>Probably I would say do your big foot one on

776
00:46:55.400 --> 00:46:58.239
<v Speaker 2>one first, and kind of either go up on YouTube

777
00:46:58.320 --> 00:47:01.440
<v Speaker 2>and just familiar eyes yourself, what a tree knock sounds like.

778
00:47:01.519 --> 00:47:03.079
<v Speaker 2>You have the difference between a tree knock and a

779
00:47:03.119 --> 00:47:07.440
<v Speaker 2>woodpecker and up up this area gunshots. Just know the difference.

780
00:47:08.480 --> 00:47:11.599
<v Speaker 2>Not everything's a bigfoot out there. Do your do your

781
00:47:11.639 --> 00:47:14.400
<v Speaker 2>research on what animals are actually in the area, just

782
00:47:14.559 --> 00:47:17.199
<v Speaker 2>just to have a basic knowledge. And I would say

783
00:47:17.400 --> 00:47:19.360
<v Speaker 2>just basically just go out with just like I do,

784
00:47:19.719 --> 00:47:22.920
<v Speaker 2>just an open mind and a level head, and don't

785
00:47:22.920 --> 00:47:28.760
<v Speaker 2>be aggressive. I mean, just go out by yourself, nice

786
00:47:28.760 --> 00:47:31.400
<v Speaker 2>and quiet and just to see what happens. Just just

787
00:47:31.599 --> 00:47:35.320
<v Speaker 2>just just to just to have good, good intentions. I

788
00:47:35.360 --> 00:47:36.079
<v Speaker 2>would recommend.

789
00:47:36.920 --> 00:47:39.320
<v Speaker 1>I think that's extremely important. You brought that up. I'm

790
00:47:39.320 --> 00:47:42.039
<v Speaker 1>glad you did that. There's a few people that might

791
00:47:42.199 --> 00:47:44.679
<v Speaker 1>hear that and be like, oh, I think that's crazy,

792
00:47:44.800 --> 00:47:48.440
<v Speaker 1>and I have to say that it's not. And I'm

793
00:47:48.559 --> 00:47:52.320
<v Speaker 1>on board with you, Johnny that it is. A lot

794
00:47:52.360 --> 00:47:54.960
<v Speaker 1>of it has to do with how your intentions are.

795
00:47:56.000 --> 00:47:59.639
<v Speaker 1>You have these the things happen in the woods, you're

796
00:47:59.719 --> 00:48:06.159
<v Speaker 1>going out to them. Do things ever follow you back

797
00:48:06.400 --> 00:48:12.159
<v Speaker 1>to your home after you're done with these expeditions.

798
00:48:14.960 --> 00:48:19.000
<v Speaker 2>I've heard I live kind of like in the city limits,

799
00:48:19.039 --> 00:48:21.360
<v Speaker 2>so if anything anything follows me back here, I mean,

800
00:48:21.400 --> 00:48:24.280
<v Speaker 2>good luck, man, I'd give them props on that. But

801
00:48:24.360 --> 00:48:27.039
<v Speaker 2>I've I've heard one night back there's there's a good

802
00:48:27.079 --> 00:48:30.440
<v Speaker 2>section of woods that unfortunately it's developed now, but back

803
00:48:30.480 --> 00:48:32.039
<v Speaker 2>I think it was just like a couple of years ago.

804
00:48:32.119 --> 00:48:35.360
<v Speaker 2>I've heard like a really strange, long, long howl back there,

805
00:48:36.079 --> 00:48:39.840
<v Speaker 2>which could be suspicious or not. But that would be

806
00:48:39.920 --> 00:48:43.679
<v Speaker 2>the only time, if if you want to categorize that,

807
00:48:43.920 --> 00:48:46.960
<v Speaker 2>if someone something follows, you know, follows me back home,

808
00:48:47.400 --> 00:48:50.719
<v Speaker 2>I think that would probably be the only time that possible.

809
00:48:53.599 --> 00:48:57.079
<v Speaker 1>Gotcha. Last question for you, what what kind of things

810
00:48:57.199 --> 00:48:59.400
<v Speaker 1>do you bring with you when you go out to

811
00:48:59.559 --> 00:49:03.039
<v Speaker 1>these areas to make sure that you are in a

812
00:49:03.119 --> 00:49:06.400
<v Speaker 1>good place and not gonna get messed up out there.

813
00:49:08.480 --> 00:49:11.320
<v Speaker 2>Personal protection. I usually carry a pistol with me everywhere

814
00:49:11.360 --> 00:49:15.199
<v Speaker 2>I go. Equipment wise, thermal equipment, thermal scopes you can

815
00:49:15.320 --> 00:49:19.159
<v Speaker 2>use that daytime or night time. That's basically your eyes

816
00:49:19.320 --> 00:49:23.760
<v Speaker 2>out there. Other clipping, I use audio recorders. We carry

817
00:49:23.800 --> 00:49:27.000
<v Speaker 2>a police issued body cans. These things are great. I

818
00:49:27.039 --> 00:49:29.239
<v Speaker 2>mean you can clip it rate up on your chest rig,

819
00:49:29.880 --> 00:49:33.239
<v Speaker 2>internal battery, internal memory. On a full charge, it'd probably

820
00:49:33.320 --> 00:49:37.320
<v Speaker 2>record for about fourteen hours. It's got IR it's got audio.

821
00:49:37.840 --> 00:49:42.119
<v Speaker 2>So that's if anything happens and you're in a try

822
00:49:42.159 --> 00:49:43.920
<v Speaker 2>to pull your cell phone or try to get things

823
00:49:44.000 --> 00:49:46.679
<v Speaker 2>going this you just leave it running and boom, you

824
00:49:46.800 --> 00:49:47.079
<v Speaker 2>got it.

825
00:49:48.159 --> 00:49:49.599
<v Speaker 1>Where do you pick up something like that?

826
00:49:51.239 --> 00:49:53.840
<v Speaker 2>So I'll go right up on Amazon? Yeah, Amazon, I

827
00:49:53.920 --> 00:49:56.039
<v Speaker 2>believe though. The ones that I use is a patrol

828
00:49:56.159 --> 00:49:59.280
<v Speaker 2>Master body can I got. I got a few of them,

829
00:49:59.519 --> 00:50:00.719
<v Speaker 2>and you don't want They're good for it too. I

830
00:50:00.760 --> 00:50:02.599
<v Speaker 2>mean it fits right in the palm of your hand.

831
00:50:02.599 --> 00:50:06.760
<v Speaker 2>They're small. So if you think that you gets some

832
00:50:06.840 --> 00:50:09.199
<v Speaker 2>activity in a daytime, especially in a daytime because night

833
00:50:09.840 --> 00:50:13.280
<v Speaker 2>you know, it has two noticeable IR lights that come

834
00:50:13.320 --> 00:50:15.960
<v Speaker 2>out and it's probably only going to show maybe like

835
00:50:16.000 --> 00:50:18.760
<v Speaker 2>about twenty five feet. So but in the daytime, if

836
00:50:19.000 --> 00:50:21.440
<v Speaker 2>you think you got some activity, stick it up in

837
00:50:21.719 --> 00:50:26.519
<v Speaker 2>a tree. It's it's really really stealth, really discreet, wide

838
00:50:26.559 --> 00:50:30.639
<v Speaker 2>angle lens and you can really monitor a good area

839
00:50:30.679 --> 00:50:33.280
<v Speaker 2>if you think that something's like coming through, stepping in

840
00:50:33.320 --> 00:50:34.360
<v Speaker 2>the creek or anything like that.

841
00:50:36.000 --> 00:50:40.000
<v Speaker 1>It picks up pretty good audio, yes, yeah, real good audio.

842
00:50:40.559 --> 00:50:42.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to have to check that out. That's very

843
00:50:42.360 --> 00:50:44.320
<v Speaker 1>that's an interesting idea. I hadn't thought about that, but

844
00:50:44.440 --> 00:50:47.239
<v Speaker 1>it makes it makes total sense. It's kind of like,

845
00:50:47.360 --> 00:50:50.320
<v Speaker 1>I guess having a GoPro on you, but maybe a

846
00:50:50.400 --> 00:50:53.719
<v Speaker 1>little less intrusive. So I'm going to check that out.

847
00:50:54.920 --> 00:50:58.400
<v Speaker 2>Less intrusive and battery life is phenomenon on these things.

848
00:50:58.760 --> 00:51:03.199
<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, well, thanks for the recommendation. Definitely definitely checked

849
00:51:03.239 --> 00:51:07.159
<v Speaker 1>that out. Johnny. It's been just a real fun chat

850
00:51:07.239 --> 00:51:09.840
<v Speaker 1>with you today, and you taught me a lot and

851
00:51:10.159 --> 00:51:15.280
<v Speaker 1>we played some fun audio, heard some good accounts. I

852
00:51:15.440 --> 00:51:16.920
<v Speaker 1>just want to say thank you for coming on the

853
00:51:17.039 --> 00:51:17.639
<v Speaker 1>show man.

854
00:51:19.199 --> 00:51:21.400
<v Speaker 2>Appreciate you having me on. If you got a few

855
00:51:21.440 --> 00:51:23.079
<v Speaker 2>more minutes, I can tell you about the one that

856
00:51:23.119 --> 00:51:24.880
<v Speaker 2>I seen back a couple of years ago.

857
00:51:25.800 --> 00:51:29.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, totally, let's do it, man.

858
00:51:33.320 --> 00:51:37.480
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, April fourteenth of twenty twenty three, up to

859
00:51:37.559 --> 00:51:41.400
<v Speaker 2>that point, out there, finding footprints, finding tree breaks, getting

860
00:51:41.440 --> 00:51:44.599
<v Speaker 2>all the stuff on audio recorder, and everything is kind

861
00:51:44.639 --> 00:51:47.960
<v Speaker 2>of pointing in the direction that it's a bigfoot. It's

862
00:51:47.960 --> 00:51:50.960
<v Speaker 2>a family big foot that are out there. And I

863
00:51:51.119 --> 00:51:55.079
<v Speaker 2>was two thirty in the afternoon. It was cloudy, it

864
00:51:55.239 --> 00:51:58.400
<v Speaker 2>was a two lane country road traveled one hundred times

865
00:51:58.639 --> 00:52:02.920
<v Speaker 2>to one side. It's a left hand side. It's a

866
00:52:02.960 --> 00:52:05.760
<v Speaker 2>short step up and goes into the woods. On the

867
00:52:05.840 --> 00:52:08.119
<v Speaker 2>other side of the road, it's the woods are back,

868
00:52:08.159 --> 00:52:13.239
<v Speaker 2>probably about twenty feet. I was headed down the straight

869
00:52:13.360 --> 00:52:15.880
<v Speaker 2>part of the road doing fifty miles an hour, and

870
00:52:16.039 --> 00:52:18.280
<v Speaker 2>I was going to come up on a slight incline

871
00:52:19.559 --> 00:52:21.119
<v Speaker 2>and there was a truck on a trailer that was

872
00:52:21.159 --> 00:52:23.119
<v Speaker 2>coming down the hill. So I was headed toward the hill.

873
00:52:23.400 --> 00:52:26.239
<v Speaker 2>The truck and trailer was coming down the hill and

874
00:52:26.559 --> 00:52:28.519
<v Speaker 2>it was like one of those fifth wheel hookups that

875
00:52:28.880 --> 00:52:31.480
<v Speaker 2>probably one of those empty up around here. They call

876
00:52:31.519 --> 00:52:34.800
<v Speaker 2>them Big tax sets, that's the brand name. And looked

877
00:52:35.760 --> 00:52:39.440
<v Speaker 2>on the right hand side, and there's something standing there.

878
00:52:39.760 --> 00:52:43.079
<v Speaker 2>It's between the road and the tree line. And the

879
00:52:43.159 --> 00:52:45.679
<v Speaker 2>most important part of the story is that the creature.

880
00:52:46.840 --> 00:52:50.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm looking at his left hand side, so I'm watching

881
00:52:50.480 --> 00:52:54.760
<v Speaker 2>its left profile the whole time. Its left arm and

882
00:52:54.880 --> 00:52:59.320
<v Speaker 2>its head was much much darker than the color of

883
00:52:59.320 --> 00:53:02.119
<v Speaker 2>the hair and its it was either the either a

884
00:53:02.239 --> 00:53:04.679
<v Speaker 2>dark brown or it was a black. The color of

885
00:53:04.760 --> 00:53:06.679
<v Speaker 2>the hair and its body was like a light tan.

886
00:53:06.840 --> 00:53:12.199
<v Speaker 2>It was like lighter than a deer, so I was

887
00:53:12.679 --> 00:53:14.880
<v Speaker 2>hit the straight part. I looked up and seeing the

888
00:53:14.880 --> 00:53:17.519
<v Speaker 2>truck and the trailer coming down, this thing was standing

889
00:53:18.800 --> 00:53:21.239
<v Speaker 2>right hand side. It was when I first seen it.

890
00:53:21.360 --> 00:53:23.599
<v Speaker 2>It was between the truck and the trailer. So right

891
00:53:23.679 --> 00:53:28.000
<v Speaker 2>after that fifth wheel hitch, the truck had passed its location.

892
00:53:28.320 --> 00:53:30.599
<v Speaker 2>And what this thing did was it swayed back and

893
00:53:30.679 --> 00:53:34.440
<v Speaker 2>it started walking up and on the road, across the road,

894
00:53:35.519 --> 00:53:38.519
<v Speaker 2>and the first thing that stood out was this thing

895
00:53:38.599 --> 00:53:41.639
<v Speaker 2>was tall. I mean ever though that the truck and

896
00:53:41.679 --> 00:53:44.599
<v Speaker 2>the trailer was on its downslope, it was a lot

897
00:53:44.719 --> 00:53:50.119
<v Speaker 2>taller than the trailer and got into the first lane,

898
00:53:50.639 --> 00:53:53.119
<v Speaker 2>and right in the middle of the of the first lane,

899
00:53:53.800 --> 00:53:56.119
<v Speaker 2>I can start making out the side of its head,

900
00:53:56.719 --> 00:53:59.480
<v Speaker 2>the shape of its head. By the time it got

901
00:53:59.559 --> 00:54:03.039
<v Speaker 2>into where the lines go down the road and into

902
00:54:03.159 --> 00:54:05.199
<v Speaker 2>the left hand lane, I pretty much had like a

903
00:54:05.320 --> 00:54:08.960
<v Speaker 2>full unobstructed view of this thing, just looking right up

904
00:54:09.039 --> 00:54:12.679
<v Speaker 2>at it, and I can describe it as we kind

905
00:54:12.679 --> 00:54:15.360
<v Speaker 2>of did like a measurement out there a few days later.

906
00:54:16.320 --> 00:54:18.480
<v Speaker 2>It was between seven and a half and eight foot tall.

907
00:54:18.840 --> 00:54:21.880
<v Speaker 2>Like I said, I was looking at its left profile

908
00:54:21.960 --> 00:54:27.239
<v Speaker 2>the whole time. Super long arms. The arms actually you

909
00:54:27.360 --> 00:54:29.719
<v Speaker 2>look like it went down to where it's knees should

910
00:54:29.800 --> 00:54:32.719
<v Speaker 2>be wide arms. I mean, at the distance where I

911
00:54:32.760 --> 00:54:35.840
<v Speaker 2>first seen it, the arms looked about as wide as

912
00:54:35.840 --> 00:54:38.840
<v Speaker 2>a telephone pole. It didn't sway its arms at all

913
00:54:38.960 --> 00:54:41.920
<v Speaker 2>when it was walking across the road. It had its

914
00:54:42.039 --> 00:54:45.440
<v Speaker 2>arm down to its side the whole time it's back.

915
00:54:46.239 --> 00:54:49.239
<v Speaker 2>Its back was like perfectly straight. But the head on

916
00:54:49.360 --> 00:54:53.079
<v Speaker 2>this thing was huge. I'd kind of like described it

917
00:54:53.119 --> 00:54:54.760
<v Speaker 2>as like a shape of a football. It was. It

918
00:54:54.920 --> 00:54:57.320
<v Speaker 2>was peaked on top and was peeked down at the bottom.

919
00:54:57.920 --> 00:55:01.960
<v Speaker 2>It was now sitting on on its shoulders like a

920
00:55:02.039 --> 00:55:05.519
<v Speaker 2>person would would have it. It was kind of it

921
00:55:05.679 --> 00:55:08.719
<v Speaker 2>was it was front and down a little bit, almost

922
00:55:08.920 --> 00:55:12.079
<v Speaker 2>like if you see these big bodybuilders and the World

923
00:55:12.159 --> 00:55:17.360
<v Speaker 2>Man competition and they had these really developed traps and

924
00:55:17.719 --> 00:55:21.159
<v Speaker 2>neck muscles. It's what kind of it appeared to be

925
00:55:21.280 --> 00:55:25.159
<v Speaker 2>there that possibly could be it. But its head was

926
00:55:25.199 --> 00:55:27.400
<v Speaker 2>slanted a little bit. It looked like the bottom of

927
00:55:27.519 --> 00:55:29.800
<v Speaker 2>wards chin woods. It was actually like resting up on

928
00:55:29.880 --> 00:55:35.159
<v Speaker 2>its upper chest. And the closer I got the it's

929
00:55:35.199 --> 00:55:37.880
<v Speaker 2>hard to describe. It's if you're picturing like a football,

930
00:55:37.960 --> 00:55:41.800
<v Speaker 2>the outer part of the football. The head was was

931
00:55:41.880 --> 00:55:43.679
<v Speaker 2>it was a darker color. Butt right up in the

932
00:55:43.800 --> 00:55:46.880
<v Speaker 2>center on the outside was a lighter color, so that

933
00:55:47.079 --> 00:55:49.880
<v Speaker 2>that might have been where the face was. But I

934
00:55:50.000 --> 00:55:52.760
<v Speaker 2>was saying, walked across the road. It did not make

935
00:55:52.840 --> 00:55:56.960
<v Speaker 2>any ebobbing motions. It went across as smooth as silk.

936
00:55:56.960 --> 00:56:00.719
<v Speaker 2>I never seen anything like that before, and did a

937
00:56:00.760 --> 00:56:02.800
<v Speaker 2>little little step up on the other side of the road.

938
00:56:02.800 --> 00:56:05.039
<v Speaker 2>It's probably about like a three foot two foot step up.

939
00:56:05.599 --> 00:56:08.559
<v Speaker 2>It turned just slightly away from me, and I could

940
00:56:08.559 --> 00:56:12.000
<v Speaker 2>see where its right shoulder blade was, and it could

941
00:56:12.039 --> 00:56:14.440
<v Speaker 2>see the color of the hair color on its back,

942
00:56:14.519 --> 00:56:17.639
<v Speaker 2>and it went up into the into the woods. But yeah,

943
00:56:17.639 --> 00:56:20.599
<v Speaker 2>that was That was April fourteenth or twenty twenty three,

944
00:56:21.440 --> 00:56:24.800
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, these things exist. I went from a believer

945
00:56:25.119 --> 00:56:27.119
<v Speaker 2>to a nowhere in seven seconds.

946
00:56:28.639 --> 00:56:32.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean that that would be. I mean that

947
00:56:32.719 --> 00:56:35.480
<v Speaker 1>that's it from from here on out. I mean, there's

948
00:56:35.679 --> 00:56:42.280
<v Speaker 1>no absolute question. My goodness, wow, cool. Do you feel

949
00:56:42.400 --> 00:56:45.679
<v Speaker 1>like what you saw that day was something that was

950
00:56:45.880 --> 00:56:50.440
<v Speaker 1>more ape like or human like or just something completely different?

951
00:56:51.880 --> 00:56:55.239
<v Speaker 2>You know, looking looking at its side, other than you know,

952
00:56:55.400 --> 00:56:57.519
<v Speaker 2>having arms and a chest and legs and all that,

953
00:56:59.000 --> 00:57:03.440
<v Speaker 2>it kind of look, let's see, almost like the stature

954
00:57:03.599 --> 00:57:06.400
<v Speaker 2>of a gorilla, because a gorilla has as a really

955
00:57:06.400 --> 00:57:10.199
<v Speaker 2>elongated head and just like a strong build. But if

956
00:57:10.239 --> 00:57:11.840
<v Speaker 2>you watch a gorilla, like if they kind of like

957
00:57:11.960 --> 00:57:14.760
<v Speaker 2>wobble a little bit, this thing walked across like like

958
00:57:15.320 --> 00:57:18.280
<v Speaker 2>no motion at all, just just across. So it was

959
00:57:18.400 --> 00:57:21.639
<v Speaker 2>kind of like like a stature, kind of like a

960
00:57:21.760 --> 00:57:24.360
<v Speaker 2>strong stature of like a gorilla would have. What it

961
00:57:24.440 --> 00:57:26.880
<v Speaker 2>was different though, And like I said, we went back

962
00:57:26.920 --> 00:57:29.199
<v Speaker 2>and measured it. It was we had it been between

963
00:57:29.280 --> 00:57:32.000
<v Speaker 2>seven and a half and eight foot tall and what

964
00:57:32.159 --> 00:57:33.719
<v Speaker 2>back in I don't know if it came out of

965
00:57:33.760 --> 00:57:36.119
<v Speaker 2>the woods. This this is the this is the strange part.

966
00:57:36.159 --> 00:57:37.519
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if it came out of the woods

967
00:57:38.800 --> 00:57:42.440
<v Speaker 2>or if it was squatting down when this the guy

968
00:57:42.519 --> 00:57:44.199
<v Speaker 2>with the with the truck and the trailer was coming

969
00:57:44.239 --> 00:57:46.840
<v Speaker 2>down and it just had stood up just before I

970
00:57:46.960 --> 00:57:49.599
<v Speaker 2>seen it. But I went back in the woods where

971
00:57:50.360 --> 00:57:51.920
<v Speaker 2>if it came out of, and there was a bunch

972
00:57:51.960 --> 00:57:53.599
<v Speaker 2>of pine trees that were kind of like stacked in

973
00:57:53.679 --> 00:57:56.639
<v Speaker 2>kind of like a weird kind of configuration. There's also

974
00:57:56.679 --> 00:57:59.800
<v Speaker 2>a tree break back there. And I also put a

975
00:58:00.199 --> 00:58:02.039
<v Speaker 2>recorder up in the in the area where it went

976
00:58:02.119 --> 00:58:04.519
<v Speaker 2>into elected there for a couple of days, and it

977
00:58:04.599 --> 00:58:06.519
<v Speaker 2>got got a couple of good tree knocks back there.

978
00:58:06.679 --> 00:58:08.119
<v Speaker 2>I think a lot of this one was probably about

979
00:58:08.159 --> 00:58:10.519
<v Speaker 2>two o'clock in the morning, maybe ten o'clock at night,

980
00:58:11.360 --> 00:58:14.000
<v Speaker 2>but it was It was was not what I had

981
00:58:14.440 --> 00:58:17.760
<v Speaker 2>expected to see, because you kind of mentally prepared just

982
00:58:17.880 --> 00:58:21.079
<v Speaker 2>in case something you're run into something you don't want

983
00:58:21.119 --> 00:58:23.599
<v Speaker 2>to be like a total total shock to your system,

984
00:58:23.679 --> 00:58:25.920
<v Speaker 2>so you mentally prepare like every time you go out there.

985
00:58:27.159 --> 00:58:30.320
<v Speaker 2>And I had thought maybe it was going to be

986
00:58:30.440 --> 00:58:32.920
<v Speaker 2>looking more like the like the Petty film, or maybe

987
00:58:32.960 --> 00:58:38.039
<v Speaker 2>even like a methander of the Fander Hall. And it

988
00:58:38.199 --> 00:58:42.159
<v Speaker 2>looked it definitely did not look human. It just looked

989
00:58:42.199 --> 00:58:44.840
<v Speaker 2>more like like like a monster. That's the only it's

990
00:58:44.840 --> 00:58:46.559
<v Speaker 2>the only term like I can use it. Just it

991
00:58:46.639 --> 00:58:47.760
<v Speaker 2>looked very creaturish.

992
00:58:50.559 --> 00:58:52.800
<v Speaker 1>Is there a certain thing about it that made you

993
00:58:53.679 --> 00:58:55.960
<v Speaker 1>think that you were looking at something that was like

994
00:58:56.039 --> 00:58:56.519
<v Speaker 1>a monster?

995
00:58:58.239 --> 00:59:02.119
<v Speaker 2>I was. I was zeroed in on its arm and

996
00:59:02.599 --> 00:59:06.639
<v Speaker 2>its head, but the whole time, not from the time

997
00:59:07.280 --> 00:59:09.800
<v Speaker 2>it walked across for sure, because if it would have

998
00:59:09.880 --> 00:59:12.280
<v Speaker 2>ran across the road, it probably would have cleared it

999
00:59:12.559 --> 00:59:14.960
<v Speaker 2>in just a couple of seconds. But it appeared to

1000
00:59:15.039 --> 00:59:19.320
<v Speaker 2>have taken its time, and I think the whole time

1001
00:59:19.440 --> 00:59:21.239
<v Speaker 2>that it took it it may have been about seven

1002
00:59:21.320 --> 00:59:25.559
<v Speaker 2>seconds or so. Well, Yeah, I was zeroed in on

1003
00:59:25.880 --> 00:59:31.400
<v Speaker 2>the upper upper body of it. It's it's it's head, yeah,

1004
00:59:31.400 --> 00:59:35.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean just just just the shape of its head

1005
00:59:35.039 --> 00:59:39.400
<v Speaker 2>and how it was positioned on its body was was

1006
00:59:39.559 --> 00:59:44.000
<v Speaker 2>very monstrous. I mean, I've never seen anything like that before.

1007
00:59:47.199 --> 00:59:50.400
<v Speaker 1>What you saw that day, is it something like if

1008
00:59:52.000 --> 00:59:56.559
<v Speaker 1>M It's a really interesting question. What what you experienced,

1009
00:59:56.639 --> 00:59:59.599
<v Speaker 1>what you saw, Did it feel like it was something

1010
00:59:59.719 --> 01:00:07.599
<v Speaker 1>that could be worked with or if there were a

1011
01:00:07.719 --> 01:00:11.199
<v Speaker 1>lot of them, we would perhaps be in trouble.

1012
01:00:14.599 --> 01:00:19.079
<v Speaker 2>Well, from my experiences out there, other than that that

1013
01:00:19.239 --> 01:00:22.039
<v Speaker 2>grunt and that grawl that one day, and I mean

1014
01:00:22.400 --> 01:00:25.599
<v Speaker 2>the yell and the hitting the trees, And I've been

1015
01:00:25.639 --> 01:00:27.239
<v Speaker 2>out there a lot, and when I go out there,

1016
01:00:27.239 --> 01:00:29.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm usually out there ninety percent of the times by myself,

1017
01:00:30.599 --> 01:00:32.719
<v Speaker 2>out in the woods, out in the creek beds, different

1018
01:00:32.760 --> 01:00:36.119
<v Speaker 2>times of the year, different times of the day. Never

1019
01:00:36.280 --> 01:00:41.719
<v Speaker 2>had anything aggressively come at me. And from other stories

1020
01:00:41.760 --> 01:00:45.960
<v Speaker 2>I've heard with campers that that camp there, and they've

1021
01:00:46.039 --> 01:00:48.519
<v Speaker 2>had they believe that they've had something come in their

1022
01:00:48.559 --> 01:00:51.400
<v Speaker 2>camp or run through their camp. It's it's more in

1023
01:00:51.679 --> 01:00:55.119
<v Speaker 2>this area here, it's more curious. I think that if

1024
01:00:55.199 --> 01:00:57.280
<v Speaker 2>you encountered this thing and it had a bad day,

1025
01:00:57.360 --> 01:00:59.159
<v Speaker 2>or if you got close enough to it that it

1026
01:00:59.400 --> 01:01:02.360
<v Speaker 2>got pissed off, they're probably I mean, they probably tear

1027
01:01:02.400 --> 01:01:06.639
<v Speaker 2>it apart. But I think, just just my personal opinion,

1028
01:01:06.719 --> 01:01:10.800
<v Speaker 2>the clan or the group up there are more curious.

1029
01:01:11.599 --> 01:01:15.800
<v Speaker 2>And oh plus you also got to think too. I mean,

1030
01:01:16.639 --> 01:01:19.840
<v Speaker 2>the people that go to a state park, they're they're

1031
01:01:19.920 --> 01:01:23.320
<v Speaker 2>pretty they're pretty predictable. I mean, no one's going there

1032
01:01:23.440 --> 01:01:27.199
<v Speaker 2>in there hunting, no one's going there with the vicious intent.

1033
01:01:28.039 --> 01:01:30.719
<v Speaker 2>They're pretty much keeping to the to the trails. They're

1034
01:01:30.760 --> 01:01:32.880
<v Speaker 2>in at a certain time, they're out at a certain time.

1035
01:01:32.960 --> 01:01:35.079
<v Speaker 2>They're pretty you know, I would think they're pretty much

1036
01:01:35.480 --> 01:01:39.800
<v Speaker 2>a mellow group. And if anybody's there overnight, they're pretty

1037
01:01:39.880 --> 01:01:45.880
<v Speaker 2>much contained to the campground area. So I'm just assuming

1038
01:01:45.960 --> 01:01:49.800
<v Speaker 2>that maybe they're used to that mellowness of the of

1039
01:01:49.880 --> 01:01:56.320
<v Speaker 2>the people that go there. And you know, wild animal too,

1040
01:01:56.639 --> 01:02:02.320
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it could be just animal mentality. If you

1041
01:02:02.400 --> 01:02:05.440
<v Speaker 2>get close enough to it, it might turn on you.

1042
01:02:07.800 --> 01:02:11.320
<v Speaker 1>Extremely interesting to think about Were there any other things

1043
01:02:11.360 --> 01:02:14.360
<v Speaker 1>that you wanted to make sure that you shared before

1044
01:02:14.559 --> 01:02:15.599
<v Speaker 1>the end of our time today.

1045
01:02:17.679 --> 01:02:20.960
<v Speaker 2>No, No, I'm really appreciated that you invited me on

1046
01:02:21.039 --> 01:02:23.159
<v Speaker 2>the show. I had a great time. And just to

1047
01:02:23.280 --> 01:02:25.840
<v Speaker 2>keep a level head and an open mind when you're

1048
01:02:25.880 --> 01:02:28.519
<v Speaker 2>out there and maybe you'll run into one.

1049
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<v Speaker 1>Johnny, is there a way people can reach out to you?

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<v Speaker 1>Or you a researcher that kind of stays undercover in

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<v Speaker 1>a way I used to?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm up on Facebook? Can you find me up on Facebook?

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<v Speaker 2>Johnny Tucker on Facebook? And if anybody like to message

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<v Speaker 2>me there, message me in private. You can do it there.

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<v Speaker 2>Knee doc Bigfoot at gmail if you want to send

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<v Speaker 2>me a private email, and on my website is meee

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<v Speaker 2>doc bigfoot dot com. She'd like to pop in every

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<v Speaker 2>now and again and see too kind of interesting things

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<v Speaker 2>I find. But yeah, I'm up on Facebook. I'm out

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<v Speaker 2>in the woods and investigating and trying to find stuff

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<v Speaker 2>as much as I could. It's kind of like a

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<v Speaker 2>passion for me.

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<v Speaker 1>That's great, and I would, you know, recommend if people

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<v Speaker 1>know things about the area that he's been talking about,

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<v Speaker 1>feel free to reach out to Johnny. You can always

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<v Speaker 1>reach out to me as well, but definitely reach out

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<v Speaker 1>to the people that are in that area that can

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<v Speaker 1>make good use of that information. But Johnny, thanks so

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<v Speaker 1>much for coming on the show today.

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<v Speaker 2>Jeremiah, it's been a pleasure. Thank you so much, and

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<v Speaker 2>I will keep in touch.

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<v Speaker 1>Just want to take a few minutes to say thank

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<v Speaker 1>you to you all my listeners for listening to the podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>know someone who has, please reach out to me at

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<v Speaker 1>Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com or pass on my email.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's the list. The Subtle Lake area of Oregon, Rainbow Oregon,

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<v Speaker 1>McKinsey Bridge area, Sweet Home, pretty much that entire area,

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<v Speaker 1>the north part if you get what I mean. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>see you back next time. Listeners. SASA Summerfest this year

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