1 00:00:04,879 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: What's going on? Thank you so much for listening to 2 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:09,640 this podcast. It is heard live every day from noon 3 00:00:09,679 --> 00:00:12,519 to three on WBT Radio in Charlotte. And if you 4 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:16,719 want exclusive content like invitations to events, the weekly live stream, 5 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:19,239 I daily show prep with all the links, become a patron, 6 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:22,640 go to dpeteclendershow dot com. Make sure you hit the 7 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:25,160 subscribe button. Get every episode for free right to your 8 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:27,679 smartphone or tablet. And again, thank you so much for 9 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:31,719 your support. I want to welcome to the studio, Congressman 10 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:35,640 Tim Moore. You just dropped in. You were sampling some 11 00:00:35,679 --> 00:00:38,439 of the local fair pinkies right down the street here 12 00:00:38,439 --> 00:00:40,520 from the studio. Which right, they have great wings. By 13 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:41,840 the way, what did you got wings? 14 00:00:42,079 --> 00:00:42,399 Speaker 2: Wings? 15 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 1: Okay, well that's always a. 16 00:00:43,399 --> 00:00:45,679 Speaker 3: Good That's the closest thing to healthy in my book. 17 00:00:45,719 --> 00:00:46,560 Speaker 4: I just said. 18 00:00:48,079 --> 00:00:50,880 Speaker 1: To get a coffee mug. They got all the different 19 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:51,399 coffee mugs. 20 00:00:51,439 --> 00:00:53,399 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I thought I might leave WBT and have one. 21 00:00:53,399 --> 00:00:54,520 Who knows I can give. 22 00:00:54,399 --> 00:00:56,679 Speaker 1: You all we could find. We can find you a 23 00:00:56,759 --> 00:00:57,520 coffee mug on it. 24 00:00:57,600 --> 00:00:58,439 Speaker 3: Now that there'd be some swag. 25 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's always swag. There's there you go, yeah, move them. 26 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:04,319 Mike A little closer to you, all right, So so 27 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:06,719 this was completely unplanned because you happened to be over 28 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:09,640 here a couple blocks away, and so you called up 29 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:11,680 and said, hey, you want to chat? Of course, doors 30 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:13,799 always open. I appreciate you coming in. It's good to 31 00:01:13,799 --> 00:01:16,239 see you. So what do you want to hit? You 32 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:18,719 want to start with? I haven't even covered even though 33 00:01:18,719 --> 00:01:20,560 this was from last week, I've not gotten to this 34 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:23,599 story that the police union, the FOP here in Charlotte 35 00:01:24,239 --> 00:01:27,599 want is planning to ask federal, state, and city leaders 36 00:01:27,599 --> 00:01:32,200 to authorize the National Guard to help respond to violent 37 00:01:32,239 --> 00:01:35,359 crime in Charlotte. You were back in Charlotte last week 38 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:39,079 for the field hearing for the House Oversight Committee. So 39 00:01:39,599 --> 00:01:41,840 what's your Have you heard this before? I'm sure you have, 40 00:01:41,879 --> 00:01:42,840 but like, what's your read on that? 41 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 4: Yeah? 42 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 3: I saw the letter and I don't know. I'd want 43 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:49,480 to find out more details about it, because that certainly 44 00:01:49,519 --> 00:01:52,200 is an elevated thing. There's clearly a problem right now. 45 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:54,840 And with our field hearing, what we wanted to do, 46 00:01:54,879 --> 00:01:57,439 Pete was we wanted to point out the fact that 47 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:00,680 it's people talking about enough police on the street that 48 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:03,159 really isn't the problem, because what's happening. If you look 49 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:06,239 at the crime stats, it's the same people who reoffend 50 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:08,479 over and over again. So, for example, you know, some 51 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:11,280 guys are arrested and charged with some you know whatever, 52 00:02:11,319 --> 00:02:13,479 it is, some breaking and entering, assault, you name it. 53 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:16,159 They're making bond, and then when they're out on bond, 54 00:02:16,199 --> 00:02:19,240 they commit a criminal offense, They get arrested, they make bond, 55 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:21,919 they get out again, over and over again. And we 56 00:02:22,039 --> 00:02:24,759 had we had a police officer who testified that it 57 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:27,000 was more often than not, and I've heard this from 58 00:02:27,039 --> 00:02:31,000 other police officers, more often than not, that the defendant 59 00:02:31,439 --> 00:02:34,080 is back out on the street while the cops still 60 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:36,520 in there doing their paperwork. And it's ridiculous. But guess 61 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:40,199 what you dry, you go just a few miles that 62 00:02:40,319 --> 00:02:44,360 direction into Gaston County towards you're stomping ground exactly, then 63 00:02:44,879 --> 00:02:47,159 it's not that way. I mean, it's so it's a 64 00:02:47,159 --> 00:02:48,879 world of difference. And I got to say, I'm not 65 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:51,240 I'm not critical of the District Attorney here. I don't 66 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:52,960 think it's a DA issue. I think it's some of 67 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:56,000 these magistrates and some of these judges of these policies 68 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:59,599 that they've adopted in letting these guys just get out 69 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:02,240 time in time again. And so we really wanted to 70 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:05,479 crack down on the cashless bell situation. For those who 71 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:08,000 don't know, cashless BAILL is something that's being pushed in 72 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:11,439 some jurisdictions where they don't even want them to post 73 00:03:11,479 --> 00:03:14,120 any kind of bond, any kind of whatsoever to get out, 74 00:03:14,159 --> 00:03:17,039 where somebody's not paying in money to a bondsman or 75 00:03:17,039 --> 00:03:19,400 whatever it is to guarantee the appearance back in court 76 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:22,840 as well as to guarantee and when somebody's released, they're 77 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:24,280 supposed to show up for a court nate. But guess 78 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:26,240 what else they're supposed to do. They're not supposed to 79 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:29,240 re offend, they're not supposed to commit other offenses. And 80 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:31,680 it's the same ones over and over again that's adding 81 00:03:31,719 --> 00:03:32,479 to this backlaw. 82 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 1: So there's a couple of things for people who don't know. 83 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:36,560 And you're a lawyer, so you know this system. A 84 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:38,599 couple things for people who don't know what the language 85 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:41,599 is about and what the roles are. A magistrate will 86 00:03:41,639 --> 00:03:44,080 tell you that they're only supposed to be set. They 87 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:47,800 get guidelines from their district court judge that says here 88 00:03:47,879 --> 00:03:50,599 are like misdemeanor Class two and three, and here are 89 00:03:50,599 --> 00:03:54,199 the offenses. And they're only supposed to be giving them 90 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:58,280 a bond to make sure they appear at their first 91 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:00,800 court appearance. And so they'll say, well, well, our hands 92 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:04,240 are tied by those guidelines and we're only supposed to 93 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:06,960 make sure that they come to court. We're not supposed 94 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:09,240 to like take them off the streets. We're not supposed 95 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:11,199 to be making judgments and that sort of thing. So 96 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:14,439 they'll issue them either a secured bond or unsecured bond, right, 97 00:04:15,159 --> 00:04:18,759 and sometimes it's just a written promise to appear. And 98 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:22,000 if it's an unsecured bond, is that the one where 99 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:23,160 they just pay the ten percent. 100 00:04:23,439 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 3: Now if it's unsecure, they pay zero, They pay zero zero. 101 00:04:26,079 --> 00:04:29,759 That's just their personal recognizance. But here's the thing. The 102 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:32,800 fallacy behind that is, yet, not only do you is 103 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:36,399 it to guarantee their return to court, but it's also 104 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:39,800 for public safety. I mean, that's why a murderer is 105 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:42,800 not released, and it shouldn't be, but it does happen. 106 00:04:43,079 --> 00:04:45,920 But somebody's charged with the murder, that's a threat to 107 00:04:45,959 --> 00:04:48,519 the community. Yeah, he may come to court, but what's 108 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:50,240 he going to do when he's back out on the streets. 109 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:51,680 So they're supposed to use that as well. 110 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:55,319 Speaker 1: What is the deal with the judges that are setting 111 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:58,079 these guidelines? Because during the House debate here in the 112 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:00,480 State House where you used to be Speaker of the House, 113 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:03,720 Marsha Morey, your old colleague, she got up and talked 114 00:05:03,759 --> 00:05:06,959 about how in Durham County she set all the guidelines 115 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:09,199 and she you know, talked about, you know, the different 116 00:05:09,319 --> 00:05:11,600 levels that she set. So that was like, I was 117 00:05:11,639 --> 00:05:14,439 not aware of that. So the judges actually are are 118 00:05:14,519 --> 00:05:17,519 setting up these guidelines. So how do we get at 119 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:20,680 that and should that be something that maybe the state 120 00:05:20,759 --> 00:05:25,199 legislature directs those guidelines and what those bail amounts are. 121 00:05:25,319 --> 00:05:28,079 Speaker 3: So the Arena's law that just passed and signing law 122 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:31,560 actually addresses a lot of that, but it is it's 123 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:34,680 let me give you an example, a real life example 124 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:37,839 where and I mentioned this at the hearing the other day, 125 00:05:38,079 --> 00:05:41,879 there was a guy who was charged with raping a 126 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:45,000 student at Belmont Abbey College. Been a couple of years ago, 127 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:48,120 I believe now, and the when he was he was 128 00:05:48,199 --> 00:05:51,279 arrested here in Charlotte. So he's arrested and so when 129 00:05:51,319 --> 00:05:54,879 you're arrested, you you go initially to wherever. In most cases, 130 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:56,680 you go to like wherever you were arrested. So it 131 00:05:56,680 --> 00:06:00,000 was Mecimburg County, went from a Mecklenburg County master because 132 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:02,600 there was a warrant for his arrest, and he was 133 00:06:02,639 --> 00:06:05,079 given a fifty thousand dollars secured bond. 134 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:05,519 Speaker 4: We left. 135 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 3: So what that means is for him to walk out 136 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:11,360 on the street, he would hire bonsman generally pay ten percent, 137 00:06:11,519 --> 00:06:14,480 which would be five thousand, and then he's able to 138 00:06:14,519 --> 00:06:18,399 walk out and be waited out there free waiting trial. Well, 139 00:06:18,519 --> 00:06:21,680 once the case, once he was once he had been arrested, 140 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:24,000 the case then goes back to Gaston County where he's 141 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:28,160 prosecuted the district attorney there and who was the only 142 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:30,040 DA that really would have a dog in a fight. 143 00:06:30,079 --> 00:06:32,680 That was the prosecutor, and then a judge and gas can. 144 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:35,079 So the difference is the judge said, what do you 145 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:37,800 mean we've released this guy on fifty thousand dollars? They 146 00:06:37,879 --> 00:06:40,959 raised it to five hundred thousand dollars, in which case 147 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:45,000 the person then was put back into custody and remained 148 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:47,439 in custody until trial. But that's the example I mean 149 00:06:47,439 --> 00:06:51,360 literally just crossing the Cataba River and you see that 150 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:55,399 time and time again in Mecklenburg County. And you know, 151 00:06:55,519 --> 00:06:57,839 I don't want to make this stuff partisan. Everybody should 152 00:06:57,879 --> 00:07:00,279 be for tough on crime, but the reality is you 153 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:03,920 have more liberal judges. This is what's happening. Yeah, and 154 00:07:03,959 --> 00:07:06,920 so what the The other part is that voters, voters 155 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:08,839 need to understand it because guess what, all of these 156 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:10,879 judges are elected by the people. 157 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:13,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, this is like, this is all a choice. 158 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:15,879 Well you know what we see here with the crime, 159 00:07:16,279 --> 00:07:18,959 it's a choice. People keep making these same choices over 160 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:23,199 and over again, and you know, I don't know how 161 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:25,800 else to convince them that that like this has to 162 00:07:25,839 --> 00:07:28,680 be done, mainly in the Democrat primaries. Like we got 163 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:30,439 a sheriff here. You know, I call him Gary not 164 00:07:30,519 --> 00:07:33,800 my fault McFadden because nothing is ever his fault, and 165 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:36,639 he like he keeps winning re election because in the 166 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:40,040 primaries the Democrat voters keep putting him back in no 167 00:07:40,079 --> 00:07:42,680 matter who runs against them. So we'll see what happens 168 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:45,120 next year. But it's the same same deal with the 169 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:47,720 cooperation with Ice, which actually leads me to another thing. 170 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:49,800 I wanted to ask you about was the uh, you're 171 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:52,240 watching what's happening in Chicago. 172 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 3: Portland, Portland, Chicago. I have, yes, and it's just what 173 00:07:57,839 --> 00:08:02,839 we've seen on the left is just I mean outright violence. 174 00:08:02,839 --> 00:08:05,639 I mean, there's no other way to describe it. I 175 00:08:05,639 --> 00:08:08,360 mean the attacks on law enforcement officials, the shooting of 176 00:08:08,399 --> 00:08:11,120 course that happened a couple of weeks ago. I mean, 177 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:14,279 the crazies on the left that are getting out there 178 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:17,240 doing this stuff. I mean what they're doing, you're putting 179 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:19,680 on a mask, you know this Antifa, these other groups 180 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:22,839 and literally attacking officers, literally trying to block folks doing 181 00:08:22,879 --> 00:08:25,680 these things. I mean, that's breaking the law. That needs 182 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:28,879 to be prosecuted. And my understanding is is that the 183 00:08:28,959 --> 00:08:31,639 DOJ is going to bring federal charges because what you 184 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:34,840 have in an area like Chicago or an area like Portland, 185 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:38,120 where you have these liberal local prosecutors there, they're choosing 186 00:08:38,159 --> 00:08:40,919 not to prosecute them. But guess what when they attack 187 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:44,159 a federal facility, when they attack a federal officer, they 188 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:46,759 really messed up, right, because now they're going to be 189 00:08:46,799 --> 00:08:47,480 charged federally. 190 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 1: Well, we had this story out of Chicago where they 191 00:08:50,039 --> 00:08:52,600 boxed it. There's like ten vehicles that boxed in these 192 00:08:52,879 --> 00:08:57,799 these ice cars rammed the ice vehicles, and there was 193 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:03,759 apparently a call for service to local police for assistance. 194 00:09:03,919 --> 00:09:06,559 They didn't respond and they yeah, they called them off. 195 00:09:06,879 --> 00:09:09,639 They canceled the call. They were like, do not respond. So, 196 00:09:09,799 --> 00:09:12,240 I mean, it's hard for me to look at that 197 00:09:12,399 --> 00:09:16,039 and think like this is like this is nullification. This 198 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:18,799 is a local jurisdiction that is saying we will we're 199 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:21,840 not complying with federal law. So what does the federal 200 00:09:21,879 --> 00:09:25,639 government then do? And that starts ratcheting up this tension 201 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:30,440 between federal and state and local and like that. I 202 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:33,519 don't want to use the word insurrection because that that's 203 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:35,799 only We're only supposed to use that word for one 204 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:38,840 singular event in our history. But it does kind of 205 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:40,399 seem to be a bit of a rebellion. 206 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:42,759 Speaker 3: Well, it does. And that's where, of course, the president 207 00:09:42,879 --> 00:09:45,919 ultimately has the authority on the state national guard. The 208 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:49,840 president can federalize that state's national guard and direct them 209 00:09:49,879 --> 00:09:52,279 to assists and then and then national guard can enforce 210 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:55,120 criminal laws. You have the whole You can't use active 211 00:09:55,159 --> 00:09:57,200 military to enforce law, that's right. 212 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:57,679 Speaker 4: You don't do. 213 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 3: POSEI coomatatis all. Yeah, exactly, but and your National Guard. So, uh, 214 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:04,600 I know that's something they're looking at. But I mean, 215 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:06,919 what from everything that I've seen what ICE is doing, 216 00:10:07,159 --> 00:10:10,039 They're they're following the law. They are cracking down on 217 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:12,600 people who are here illegally, They're dealing with a lot 218 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:14,039 of the gang members are dealing with a lot of 219 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:17,360 this stuff. And then you have these guys, these Antifa 220 00:10:17,399 --> 00:10:20,759 activists literally getting in the way of this. I mean, 221 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:23,879 I just it's it shocks me that people that they 222 00:10:23,879 --> 00:10:25,000 think that's okay. 223 00:10:24,879 --> 00:10:27,639 Speaker 1: No, Antifa is an idea. Remember that's what the president 224 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:30,799 told us. Joe Biden told us that it's just an idea. 225 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:33,159 Speaker 3: Did he or the auto pen? I'm just curious. So 226 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:33,840 I don't know what does that? 227 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:36,759 Speaker 1: I don't know. So I've been I've been making this 228 00:10:36,799 --> 00:10:39,279 case for a while that the Democrat Party has a 229 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:42,120 they've got a violence problem. And I first saw it 230 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:46,080 when you remember Madison Cawthorne. He was running against a 231 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:49,320 guy named or a guy challenged him, Colonel Mo Davis. 232 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:53,440 You remember those in the tweets that he was sending out. 233 00:10:52,799 --> 00:10:54,759 Speaker 3: Stomping him his neck and all this kind of stuff. 234 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, and it's it's just getting worse. And 235 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:03,639 it's like we go from we go from no, no, no, 236 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:07,080 our words aren't inciting anybody to then this weekend where 237 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:10,320 that's South Carolina, Judge's house caught fire. We don't know why, 238 00:11:10,799 --> 00:11:14,000 but now they're immediately blaming Republicans. So it's like, well, 239 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:18,120 wait a minute, does the stochastic terrorism thing right? This incitement? 240 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:20,879 Does it work only one direction? 241 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:21,919 Speaker 4: Do they? 242 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 1: In your Do you deal with any of the Democrats 243 00:11:24,159 --> 00:11:25,279 up there as your colleagues? 244 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 3: I do, I do, I do, and I deal, And 245 00:11:27,039 --> 00:11:29,039 I will say most of the ones that I deal 246 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:32,600 with regularly are not do not agree with this mess 247 00:11:32,639 --> 00:11:35,399 that's going on, but they're the radical ones like for example, Omar, 248 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:39,240 I'm Omar, I mean, have any interaction. I want to 249 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:41,080 commitee with her. I've said hello, and that's about the 250 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:44,480 extent of it. But it's but I watched I don't 251 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:46,879 even know what my reaction was, Pete, when I saw 252 00:11:46,919 --> 00:11:48,840 the interview after Charlie Kirk's death. 253 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:51,879 Speaker 1: Did you see that I mean with Omark, with Omar, 254 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:52,240 I mean. 255 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:55,679 Speaker 3: And she's like smiling the whole time that she's talking 256 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:59,360 about this man who was murdered and then starts talking about, well, 257 00:11:59,399 --> 00:12:02,320 maybe I feel sorry for his wife and his children, 258 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:04,720 but this man should be forgotten. And was it the 259 00:12:04,759 --> 00:12:07,639 ash heap of history or something? And I couldn't but 260 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:09,960 she's smiling the whole time. I mean, that takes a 261 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:11,960 level of evil. I don't know what else to say. 262 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:15,879 That's copathy, That is just twisted. Yeah, and you you 263 00:12:16,039 --> 00:12:18,200 just and you're seeing that kind of stuff. But more 264 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:20,600 important even than the words what we talked about with 265 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:24,720 anti antiva, you're seeing the actions of physical violence that 266 00:12:24,759 --> 00:12:28,200 were there. And look, I remember in twenty twenty when 267 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:31,440 I decided to stay the weekend in Raleigh, in downtown 268 00:12:31,639 --> 00:12:34,919 and when the riots broke out, I'm literally watching from 269 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:38,000 my balcony as like cars are on fire and. 270 00:12:37,919 --> 00:12:40,080 Speaker 1: The ideas are running all around the streets. 271 00:12:40,159 --> 00:12:44,039 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, oh yeah, the nonviolent protest. Right yeah, I'm 272 00:12:44,039 --> 00:12:46,519 thinking this is this is nuts. But you know, when 273 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:50,240 when it's not the ride out smashing windows with skateboards 274 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:54,440 and attacking people, it's it's the crazies. It's the crazies 275 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:56,360 that on the left. And I think we ought to 276 00:12:56,399 --> 00:12:58,159 deal with who is funding a lot of this because 277 00:12:58,159 --> 00:13:00,720 you know, you know, these lo These are paid agitators, 278 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:04,440 paid protesters. I mean, somebody who's doing that out to 279 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:05,399 be held responsible for. 280 00:13:05,639 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 1: So did you see you hear of a book? I 281 00:13:09,039 --> 00:13:11,840 think it's called the Antifa Handbook, I think is what 282 00:13:11,879 --> 00:13:14,320 it's called. Is written by some guy named Bray, Mike 283 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:17,879 Bray or Mark Bray. He's a Rutgers University associate professor, 284 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:21,360 and he wrote the handbook for Antifa, and he made 285 00:13:21,399 --> 00:13:23,159 the rounds a couple of years ago, back in like 286 00:13:23,159 --> 00:13:25,600 twenty sixteen, when Antifa was new and cool and all 287 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:29,000 of that for the media. And I just saw yesterday 288 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:31,960 he has now fled the country he's living in. He's 289 00:13:32,039 --> 00:13:35,639 moved to Spain. And it came the day after the 290 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:40,360 White House announced that they're going to be probing the 291 00:13:40,399 --> 00:13:43,799 funding ties good and so he fled. Well, I'm sure 292 00:13:43,799 --> 00:13:45,240 it's coincidence. Oh, I'm sure it is. 293 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 3: Well, and we know, you know the George Soros, you 294 00:13:48,039 --> 00:13:51,480 know he and his son Alex or whatever. The millions 295 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:53,960 of dollars these guys put into things, and it's I mean, 296 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:55,519 you think about it. When the riots were going on 297 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:58,600 in the cities, these palettes of bricks would just magically 298 00:13:58,639 --> 00:14:02,159 appear I mean, this is this is terrible and and 299 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:05,519 what I've called on you colleagues, my colleagues who on 300 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:07,600 the other side of the aisle, is they need to 301 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:12,360 unequivocally denounce this kind of violence, denounce this hateful rhetoric, 302 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:15,639 denounce this incitement and if you will. But most of 303 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:17,320 them are scared to So why do you think that is? 304 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:20,720 I think because the because the far ultra left, he 305 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:23,279 is in charge of the Democratic Party. I mean that 306 00:14:23,399 --> 00:14:25,519 that's where we are today. I mean that they they 307 00:14:25,559 --> 00:14:28,720 have been totally hijacked by the left wing nut jobs. 308 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:31,679 It's a battle between them, between the the between now 309 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:34,919 between the liberals and the hardcore leftist and I think 310 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:37,960 that's why so many North Carolina, North Carolinians, so many 311 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:42,320 Americans are either becoming who were Democrats before becoming unaffiliated, 312 00:14:42,559 --> 00:14:45,080 or in some cases Republican. Look at the numbers, right, 313 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:47,200 I mean, and I'm a Republican. Hey, we're not perfect, right, 314 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:49,799 We've got some issues as well, but we're not out there, 315 00:14:49,879 --> 00:14:52,799 you know, burning cars in the streets and interfering with 316 00:14:52,879 --> 00:14:55,320 law enforce I mean we're not We're not violent. I mean, 317 00:14:55,399 --> 00:14:58,039 it's just uh, and people see that, they see that 318 00:14:58,120 --> 00:14:59,600 on the left, and they don't want to be you know, 319 00:14:59,799 --> 00:15:02,360 most common sence. People don't want to be affiliated with that. 320 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:05,720 And I mean there's certain things that ought to be 321 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:10,919 common sense, nonpartistsan non political and public safety ought to 322 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:12,480 be at the very top of that list. 323 00:15:12,679 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I mean it is the you know, was 324 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:19,519 it the hierarchy of civilization here that you know, these 325 00:15:19,519 --> 00:15:21,600 are your needs and the number one down at the 326 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:24,679 bottom there is security because if you don't have that, 327 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:27,399 you can't engage in commerce. People don't have, you know, 328 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:30,720 trust in their neighbors and your freedom the roads obviously, 329 00:15:30,759 --> 00:15:35,440 and I just I don't understand, well I do because 330 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:40,559 Dennis Prager talks about conservatives vote their values, Progressives vote 331 00:15:40,559 --> 00:15:43,600 their values, but liberals do not because they don't want 332 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:46,279 to be perceived as being too close to conservatives, and 333 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:49,960 so they will cave every time to the hardcore leftists. 334 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,919 And that's that's really troubling to me, because the right 335 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:58,360 does not control these these institutions of value like legacy 336 00:15:58,399 --> 00:16:02,039 media for example, and schools. This is where all this 337 00:16:02,039 --> 00:16:04,159 stuff is coming through. That's why you're young people are 338 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:06,200 you know, one out of three of them say violence 339 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:09,600 is acceptable political violence is acceptable. That's how we got here. 340 00:16:09,639 --> 00:16:12,200 And I'm kind of like, well, who then is going 341 00:16:12,279 --> 00:16:15,279 to to fight that inside the Democrat Party if the 342 00:16:15,279 --> 00:16:16,200 liberals won't do it? 343 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:16,799 Speaker 4: Right? 344 00:16:16,919 --> 00:16:18,639 Speaker 1: Do you have any idea uh. 345 00:16:18,639 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 3: That that you know what I think? I think what 346 00:16:20,559 --> 00:16:24,480 has to happen is that Democrats have to start losing 347 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:27,679 more and more elections for that to get through. But 348 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:30,399 my concern is is you have certain areas, particularly in 349 00:16:30,399 --> 00:16:34,159 the cities, where the Democrat de facto wins. It just 350 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:35,840 it just happens. I mean, you can run a great 351 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:39,120 qualified Republican, uh, and you can have somebody on the 352 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:42,480 hard far left and because of where they are that 353 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:46,240 you know they're likely to win those races. And at 354 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:48,440 some point there's got to be common sense that gets 355 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:50,480 involved in this. But I'll give you, I mean, not 356 00:16:50,559 --> 00:16:52,240 exactly the same thing, because we're talking about, you know, 357 00:16:52,279 --> 00:16:55,120 with the violence and all that stuff dangerous, but I'll 358 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:57,759 bring bring it into like the government shutdown right now, 359 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:02,639 right with the continuing Resolution, we as Republicans voted to 360 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:05,519 keep the government open, and we didn't change any policy, 361 00:17:05,559 --> 00:17:07,680 we didn't roll back anything, we didn't deal with it 362 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:11,200 basically continuing the same budget that was in place when 363 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:14,839 Biden was president. Right, we passed it, went over to 364 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:17,680 the Senate initially a few months ago the first R. 365 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:21,480 Schumer voted for the Democrats. They caught so much grief 366 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:24,759 from the hard far left, the AOC's of the world, 367 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:27,319 all that stuff. Now, when it comes time to just 368 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:30,599 keep the government open, something as simple as that, they 369 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:33,720 can't muster the courage to do what they know is 370 00:17:33,759 --> 00:17:35,759 the right thing. I mean, we can debate all the 371 00:17:35,799 --> 00:17:38,599 issues they want to debate, but think about I'm sure 372 00:17:38,599 --> 00:17:40,680 you saw the demands. One of the big demands they 373 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:44,480 had free health care for illegal aliens. And that's there. 374 00:17:44,519 --> 00:17:46,480 It's in black and white. People wanted people go, oh, 375 00:17:46,519 --> 00:17:49,079 it's not no go look on my website, look on 376 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:52,640 my social media. We will see the screenshot of the page. 377 00:17:52,799 --> 00:17:56,160 And so they're willing to shut down the federal government 378 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:58,799 and all the services to provide free health care for 379 00:17:58,839 --> 00:18:02,240 illegal aliens. When a party that is doing that has 380 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:05,279 lost its way and is out of touch with eighty 381 00:18:05,279 --> 00:18:06,200 percent of the Americans. 382 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:10,119 Speaker 1: All right, that's Congressman Tim Moore. You know, stories are powerful. 383 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:13,279 They help us make sense of things, to understand experiences. 384 00:18:13,559 --> 00:18:15,799 Stories connect us to the people of our past while 385 00:18:15,839 --> 00:18:19,279 transcending generations. They help us process the meaning of life 386 00:18:19,319 --> 00:18:23,240 and our stories are told through images and videos. 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All right, So I am of the same 402 00:19:14,039 --> 00:19:18,160 mind as Congressman More when it comes to this violence 403 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:23,480 fetish that democrats seem to be suffering from or enjoying. 404 00:19:23,519 --> 00:19:27,240 I don't know the only way this is going to change, 405 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:29,759 I think is for Democrats to be forced to change. 406 00:19:29,799 --> 00:19:31,319 And the only way that's going to happen is if 407 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:35,039 they lose more and more elections because of it. And 408 00:19:35,079 --> 00:19:39,480 I think that's what we are seeing is Democrats losing 409 00:19:39,519 --> 00:19:44,319 their grip on these institutions, whether it's you know, government 410 00:19:44,559 --> 00:19:49,240 or education. But with the you know more the rise 411 00:19:49,279 --> 00:19:53,920 in school choice for example, the crackdown on DEI measures right, 412 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:58,640 the but also social media, they've lost control through you know, 413 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:01,799 the censorship models that they were employing for the better 414 00:20:01,839 --> 00:20:05,880 part of about seven years. They've lost a lot of 415 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:10,039 that control. We're seeing now movies and and uh, you know, 416 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:12,799 I want to say TV shows, but they're not. It's 417 00:20:12,839 --> 00:20:17,839 YouTube stuff. It's content creation that's now being done by uh, 418 00:20:18,039 --> 00:20:22,839 you know, independent content creators, whether they're movies or TV series. 419 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:26,880 But they're living on the digital platforms Daily Wire for example, 420 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:31,960 doing full length feature movies. So they're losing their grip. 421 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:34,160 And this is what it looks like when a party 422 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:37,559 that has controlled the culture for so long starts losing 423 00:20:38,039 --> 00:20:42,079 control of that culture. And as I've said for years, 424 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:45,559 they they have enjoyed this, uh, this position, and so 425 00:20:45,599 --> 00:20:48,240 they haven't been able or haven't been I should say, 426 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:52,119 they haven't been tasked with defending their positions. They would 427 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:56,240 just call people names, and they would rely on media 428 00:20:56,279 --> 00:21:00,319 to amplify the names, the smears, and then they would 429 00:21:00,319 --> 00:21:04,400 also rely on the targets not wanting to be called 430 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:08,279 these things. And just like anything else, when you call 431 00:21:08,559 --> 00:21:13,559 everybody a Nazi, the word loses its power. And that's 432 00:21:13,599 --> 00:21:16,559 where we are. So people call like, I got a 433 00:21:16,599 --> 00:21:18,799 guy he ran for office as a Democrat in North 434 00:21:18,839 --> 00:21:21,359 Carolina and he's out there calling me and all my 435 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:24,000 listeners and all of the people on Twitter that follow me, 436 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:28,799 we're all racists and Nazis and stuff, and nobody cares 437 00:21:28,799 --> 00:21:32,599 what you have to say. You're you know it. What 438 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:35,079 is the old line, Well, it's not that old. It's 439 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:40,279 from that cartoon. Your booze mean nothing. I've seen what 440 00:21:40,319 --> 00:21:45,480 you cheer for. I don't care what you say. Your 441 00:21:45,559 --> 00:21:50,039 opinion of me is absolutely irrelevant. It carries no purchase 442 00:21:50,079 --> 00:21:54,079 any longer. And that's what they're grappling with. They used 443 00:21:54,079 --> 00:21:56,319 to be able to just call you names, have it 444 00:21:56,319 --> 00:21:59,160 amplified in the press, and it would destroy your life. 445 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:01,279 And it doesn't work anymore. And they have nothing else 446 00:22:01,319 --> 00:22:03,920 to fall back on, so they just keep ratcheting up 447 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:09,039 this rhetoric and now you're inspiring people to actually engage 448 00:22:09,079 --> 00:22:13,839 in violence against federal agents. I mentioned this with Congressman Moore. 449 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:18,880 It's this is it's insane. So this is a story 450 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:23,000 from CBS News. Federal agents shot a woman in the 451 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:26,759 Brighton Park neighborhood on Chicago's southwest Side on Saturday morning 452 00:22:26,799 --> 00:22:29,759 after they became boxed in by vehicles. According to the 453 00:22:29,839 --> 00:22:32,599 US Department of Homeland Security, the woman, as well as 454 00:22:32,599 --> 00:22:35,440 a man whom authorities say was involved in the chaos, 455 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:40,440 are now facing charges. Homeland Security originally said the shooting 456 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:43,960 happened while agents were patrolling in Broadview, where the Department 457 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:47,640 has a US Immigration and Customs enforcement facility that has 458 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:52,240 been the target of ongoing quote protests and clashes between 459 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:59,039 agents and demonstrators. Their attacks is what's happening. These are attacks. Okay. 460 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:02,480 Here is what Gov. Pritzker said about this story when 461 00:23:02,599 --> 00:23:06,440 asked by Jake Tapper on CNN News. 462 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 4: What do you know about this incident? 463 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,319 Speaker 5: We're federal agents boxed in and assaulted. 464 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 6: Well, we don't have a lot of facts. What happens 465 00:23:15,519 --> 00:23:19,799 in these sorts of incidence is typically ICE puts out 466 00:23:19,839 --> 00:23:24,759 a press release before anybody else can speak with the press, 467 00:23:24,839 --> 00:23:27,799 and then it gets reported on social media and elsewhere. 468 00:23:27,839 --> 00:23:31,240 So they are just putting out their propaganda. 469 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:36,440 Speaker 1: Their propaganda. So when ICE agents are attacked and they 470 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:39,759 put out a press release about the attack, that's propaganda. 471 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:46,480 According to the freaking governor of Illinois, here is Congresswoman 472 00:23:46,559 --> 00:23:48,200 Timmy Duckworth or Senator. 473 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,839 Speaker 4: They lie, right, The Trump administration lies. We have a 474 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:52,400 president who's a known liar. 475 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:57,119 Speaker 3: And they have been they've been lying about the situation 476 00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:57,720 all along. 477 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:01,519 Speaker 1: So they've been lying, according to Pritzker and Duckworth. There 478 00:24:01,559 --> 00:24:05,640 everybody's lying at Homeland Security, ICE is lying, Border Patrol's lying, 479 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:09,000 Christy Nome's lying. Right, Everyone's lie, lie, lie, lie lie, 480 00:24:10,599 --> 00:24:14,519 except I guess you're gonna have to rework that talking 481 00:24:14,599 --> 00:24:19,920 point because the Chicago Police superintendent thinks otherwise. 482 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,799 Speaker 5: So when I was a kid, my grandpa died with Alzheimer's, 483 00:24:23,839 --> 00:24:26,079 and before he died, my mom and my dad took 484 00:24:26,079 --> 00:24:28,359 care of him as he got worse. Forty years ago, 485 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:31,519 there were no treatments and not much support for caregivers 486 00:24:31,519 --> 00:24:34,079 and family. But things are different today because of the 487 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:37,319 work of so many people, including the Alzheimer's Association of 488 00:24:37,319 --> 00:24:40,960 Western Carolina. It's a great organization with awesome people with 489 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:43,880 huge hearts. I've been a supporter for twenty five years. 490 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:47,240 This cause means a lot to me. I participate in 491 00:24:47,279 --> 00:24:50,119 the annual Walk to end Alzheimer's and I'm leading a 492 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:53,319 Charlotte team again this year, and it's called once again 493 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,799 Pete's Pack. You can sign up and you can join 494 00:24:55,839 --> 00:24:58,680 the team and walk with us. It's on October eighteenth, 495 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:03,079 that truest field up at alz dot org slash Walk 496 00:25:03,279 --> 00:25:05,839 and then you could search for my team name Pete's Peck. 497 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:09,240 There's also a link at thepetepod dot com. There's also 498 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:12,119 a link in the description of this podcast. Also, I'll 499 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:15,279 be am seeing the Gastonia Walk on October eleventh then, 500 00:25:15,319 --> 00:25:17,440 so you can make a team and join that one too, 501 00:25:17,799 --> 00:25:19,720 or make a donation and help me hit my goal 502 00:25:19,759 --> 00:25:22,640 of five thousand dollars. If you do, I really appreciate it. 503 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,359 There are a bunch of other walks all over the Carolinas. 504 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,119 You can go to alz dot org slash Walk for 505 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:31,000 all the dates and locations. We're closer than ever to 506 00:25:31,079 --> 00:25:33,400 stopping Alzheimer's. Can you help us get there? Will you 507 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:36,319 walk with me? For a different future, for families, for 508 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,039 more time for treatments. 509 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:41,680 Speaker 1: This is why we walk, all right. So in Chicago 510 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:48,759 ICE operation there being attacked by these leftists. Oh and 511 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,599 also there are hits being put out on ICE agents 512 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:55,079 by cartels and such. I have details on all of that. 513 00:25:56,240 --> 00:26:00,200 But you heard from the Governor of Illinois JB. Pritzkir 514 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:06,759 and Tammy Duckworth, member of Congress, both saying that DHS 515 00:26:06,759 --> 00:26:12,400 Homeland Security is lying ICE border patrol. They're lying about 516 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:17,079 what occurred over the weekend, which was that ICE vehicles 517 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:22,680 were quote boxed in by about ten vehicles, and then 518 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:27,880 one of their vehicles got rammed, and when an officer, 519 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:32,079 the patrolling agents were rammed by vehicles boxed in by 520 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:35,000 ten cars, according to a statement from the Department of 521 00:26:35,039 --> 00:26:41,039 Homeland Security Assistant Secretary Trisia McLaughlin. And you heard these 522 00:26:41,079 --> 00:26:44,519 democrats saying these are all lies, which might be news 523 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:50,039 to the Chicago Police Superintendent Larry Snelling. 524 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:52,599 Speaker 4: Federal agents. 525 00:26:53,799 --> 00:27:02,279 Speaker 2: ICE HSI are officers, they're agents of law enforcement. 526 00:27:04,839 --> 00:27:06,319 Speaker 4: If you box them in. 527 00:27:08,039 --> 00:27:13,160 Speaker 2: With vehicles, it is reasonable for them to believe that 528 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:17,359 they are being ambushed, correct, and that this could end 529 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:23,119 in a deadly situation, and it's reasonable for them to 530 00:27:23,279 --> 00:27:24,319 use force. 531 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 4: Based on those conditions. 532 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 2: Do not box in any law enforcement officer. You are 533 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:38,960 breaking the law when you do that, and you are 534 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:47,920 putting yourself in danger following law enforcement agents around. 535 00:27:49,599 --> 00:27:53,160 Speaker 4: The question is why what do you plan on doing. 536 00:27:54,559 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 2: It's also reasonable for them to believe that you're eventually 537 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:05,519 going to do harm to them. If you ram any vehicle, 538 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:11,440 especially that one that contains law enforcement agents, and that's 539 00:28:11,519 --> 00:28:19,200 any law enforcement local, state, federal, county, and you do 540 00:28:19,319 --> 00:28:23,160 this intentionally, this is considered deadly force. Deadly force is 541 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:30,079 anything that can cause great bodily harm or death. When 542 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:36,759 you plow into a vehicle that contains law enforcement agents, 543 00:28:38,279 --> 00:28:43,279 you're using deadly force, and they can use deadly force 544 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,160 in response to stop you. 545 00:28:46,079 --> 00:28:50,319 Speaker 1: So let that be a warning democrats and leftist shock troops. 546 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:56,839 You keep escalating, you're gonna get shot. In fact, one 547 00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:00,559 of the people that boxed in and hit these ICE 548 00:29:00,599 --> 00:29:04,839 agents was shot. DHS said that the agents were unable 549 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,440 to move their vehicles, so they got out of a car. 550 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,319 According to DHS. One of the drivers of one of 551 00:29:10,319 --> 00:29:14,039 the cars boxing them in had a gun, which the 552 00:29:14,079 --> 00:29:16,759 agency called a semi automatic weapon. Don't know if it 553 00:29:16,839 --> 00:29:20,119 was a handgun or long gun, but whatever, DHS said, 554 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:23,920 the agents opened fire, striking the driver, who has been 555 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:29,440 identified some woman. According to the federal charging complaint, Customs 556 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,920 and Border Protection agent who opened fire stepped out of 557 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,279 his vehicle and shot five times at the woman as 558 00:29:34,319 --> 00:29:38,160 she rammed her car into a federal law enforcement vehicle. 559 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:42,279 Prosecutors say she drove off, but paramedics found her and 560 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,960 her car at a repair shop about a mile away, 561 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,759 at which point she was taken to a hospital. She 562 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:52,519 was treated, released, and then arrested. Now I'm curious. Was 563 00:29:52,559 --> 00:29:55,000 she going to the repair shop in order to try 564 00:29:55,039 --> 00:30:00,000 to get her vehicle repaired so as to hide the evidence, 565 00:30:00,799 --> 00:30:03,400 or was it somebody that she knew. Was it a 566 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:06,400 place that employed people she knew or something, or was 567 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,200 it just a place she pulled over because the an 568 00:30:09,279 --> 00:30:13,200 ambulance was dispatched to that location where she got picked 569 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:16,720 up and taken to the hospital. Her name is Marimar Martinez, 570 00:30:16,759 --> 00:30:20,920 forty years old, of Chicago, charged with forcibly assaulting. She 571 00:30:21,039 --> 00:30:25,680 is a citizen forcibly assaulting, impeding, and interfering with a 572 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:30,039 federal law enforcement officer. This according to the US Attorney's Office. 573 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:34,400 DHS claimed that the woman was also named in an 574 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:38,240 intelligence bulletin that was put out last week because she 575 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:44,640 was doxing agents and posting threats against ICE online. A 576 00:30:44,759 --> 00:30:47,720 later statement said that as ICE agents were responding to 577 00:30:47,799 --> 00:30:52,319 that shooting, somebody followed them and rammed their vehicle in 578 00:30:52,359 --> 00:30:55,279 an attempt to run them off the road. That person 579 00:30:55,839 --> 00:30:59,400 also got arrested now in custody. That guy's name is 580 00:30:59,599 --> 00:31:04,319 Anthony Ian Santos Ruiz, twenty one of Chicago. Don't know 581 00:31:04,319 --> 00:31:07,359 if he's a citizen or not. He faces the exact 582 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:11,480 same charges as Martinez. All right, that'll do it for 583 00:31:11,559 --> 00:31:14,200 this episode. 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