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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to KFI AM six forty on.

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<v Speaker 2>Demand, KFI AM six forty live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Michael Monks from KFI News. This is La Fires,

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<v Speaker 2>A Path Forward, our special presentation on the wildfires. What

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<v Speaker 2>happened and what happens now. It's not even been six

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<v Speaker 2>weeks since we first told you something dangerous was brewing.

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<v Speaker 3>We got reports out of the Santa Monica area. We've

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<v Speaker 3>got a brush fire in the Palisades Highlands right now.

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<v Speaker 3>You can see this smoke. Not sure about the size

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<v Speaker 3>of this baby. They're usually quick to step to those

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<v Speaker 3>there near the Palisades.

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<v Speaker 2>The warnings had come days in advance. The National Weather

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<v Speaker 2>Service told us major Santa Ana winds were coming. A

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<v Speaker 2>lack of rain for many months had left things dry

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<v Speaker 2>and ripe for destruction. And that's what happened. Has heard

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<v Speaker 2>on kfi's Gary and Shannon as it unfolded.

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<v Speaker 3>We now have a fire, Palisades fire is what they're

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<v Speaker 3>calling it.

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<v Speaker 2>It started small in the Palisades, but with the conditions,

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<v Speaker 2>the fire was poised to grow quickly.

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<v Speaker 3>This thing is living up to its potential, they say.

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<v Speaker 3>Right now, the crews on the ground are furiously engaged

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<v Speaker 3>in structure protection.

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<v Speaker 4>And then it grew even more.

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<v Speaker 3>The latest is that they're seeing spotting ahead of this

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<v Speaker 3>thing a mile to three quarters of a mile out,

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<v Speaker 3>which was the absolute fear. When you're thinking about the

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<v Speaker 3>winds and the gusts that are coming with this wind event,

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<v Speaker 3>that'll take a fire and carry it and keep carrying it.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, and that's well. I mean there's a couple thousand

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<v Speaker 4>homes well within that range. Eyewitnesses started to call in

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<v Speaker 4>with what they were seeing.

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<v Speaker 3>Caesar works at sunset smash and joins us. Now, Caesar

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<v Speaker 3>crazy over there right now.

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<v Speaker 5>I bet it is very concerning at this point because

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<v Speaker 5>there's black smoke. It seems like there's still in the area,

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<v Speaker 5>and everyone out of here is just concern about what

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<v Speaker 5>was going on taking fiction.

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<v Speaker 2>By the time that John Colebelt Show came on the air,

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<v Speaker 2>homes in the Palisades were burning.

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<v Speaker 4>Pacific Palisades is on fire. I'm looking at several television

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<v Speaker 4>news feeds and they have different homes burning on different stations.

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<v Speaker 4>I see one home just starting to burn. There's a

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<v Speaker 4>wall of flames in the backyard, wall of flames in

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<v Speaker 4>the backyard of the neighbor's house, and then the.

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<v Speaker 2>Terror of it all became real as residents started to flee,

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<v Speaker 2>clogging streets.

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<v Speaker 4>We're going to talk to a woman now who's trying

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<v Speaker 4>to get out of the Palisades Kelly. Are you there, Kelly, Yes,

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<v Speaker 4>can you hear me? Yeah? Thanks for coming on.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh yeah, no problem. Right now, I'm on Sunset and

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<v Speaker 6>Palisades Drive and it's completely you can't even move. And

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<v Speaker 6>as I'm sitting here on the corner of Palisade Drive,

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<v Speaker 6>there's a palm tree on fire, so like we're kind

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<v Speaker 6>of all sitting here in the car and watching. I

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<v Speaker 6>mean it's like fifty feet away.

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<v Speaker 4>I think, oh, that's that's really frightening.

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<v Speaker 6>It's really frightening. It's really really.

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<v Speaker 4>Frightening, and you can't get away from it, no.

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<v Speaker 6>Because we we're locked in. It's kind of like, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>we see those terrible movies where everybody's running from something

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<v Speaker 6>and all the cars are stuck.

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<v Speaker 7>That's kind of how it is.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, Oh my gosh, Yeah, this tree is really.

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<v Speaker 4>It's on the corner or on the in the median.

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<v Speaker 6>On Palisades Drive and Sunset directly on the corner, there's

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<v Speaker 6>a and I don't know if you can hear all

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<v Speaker 6>the honkings.

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<v Speaker 4>I can. Yeah, I saw on TV there was a

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it's right now. I just I just don't know,

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<v Speaker 6>Like people are getting out of their cars now, what

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<v Speaker 6>if you think, yes, yes, all.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, go okay okay, Oh my god, that's terrifying.

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<v Speaker 2>The Mo Kelly Show comes on at seven, and by

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<v Speaker 2>then The eaton Fire had also started barreling towards Altadena.

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<v Speaker 8>To Walla Sharp, I was telling your business because I

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<v Speaker 8>think someone could have benefited from knowing how seriously not

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<v Speaker 8>only are we telling them to take it, but how

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<v Speaker 8>seriously we are taking it.

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<v Speaker 2>Producer Tawalla Sharp lives in Altadena. He rushed back home

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<v Speaker 2>to help his family leave before coming back to the show.

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<v Speaker 9>The entire ride back to Altadena, the wind was the

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<v Speaker 9>nastiest I've ever experienced. The debris things fly from the freeway.

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<v Speaker 9>There are actual trees on the one thirty four, the

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<v Speaker 9>actual trees from from I don't know where they're come from,

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<v Speaker 9>but the small trees that are maybe on the side

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<v Speaker 9>of the freeways or whatever, in the actual freeway.

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<v Speaker 2>It is absolutely crazy. K if I decided to go

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<v Speaker 2>wall to wall with live coverage NonStop for days.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm gonna be with you all the way up until midnight,

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<v Speaker 8>and then Tim Conway Junior is going to come back

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<v Speaker 8>to the studio bless his heart, and go from midnight

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<v Speaker 8>to three am. Neil Savagor will be in from three

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<v Speaker 8>to five am, and then Amy King will take over

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<v Speaker 8>the normal course of things with wake up call at

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<v Speaker 8>five am.

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<v Speaker 2>The scenes of destruction were breathtaking. As I told Valentine

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<v Speaker 2>on my FM while reporting from Altadna.

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<v Speaker 4>Whatever iHeart.

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<v Speaker 2>Reporters from KFI Michael Monks in the phone line, Michael,

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<v Speaker 2>where are you right now?

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<v Speaker 10>I'm on the corner of Mariposa Street and El Molina Avenue.

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<v Speaker 10>I'm standing in front of the Mariposa town Homes for rent.

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<v Speaker 10>This sign has no damage to it at all, whatsoever?

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<v Speaker 10>Mere feet behind the sign advertising the town homes. There

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<v Speaker 10>are no town homes gone. They're burned to the ground.

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<v Speaker 10>There is smoke coming off of the rubble that used

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<v Speaker 10>to be these homes that the owners were trying to

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<v Speaker 10>rent out.

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<v Speaker 2>We talk about the news coverage. We talked to victims

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<v Speaker 2>who lost their homes out. What's happening for them?

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<v Speaker 4>Now I truly, truly.

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<v Speaker 9>Truly hope and pray that Alcadema can rebuild and that

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<v Speaker 9>that character and that thing that grew up with can

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<v Speaker 9>be there for future generations to see.

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<v Speaker 11>My biggest fear on January was the biggest problem is

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<v Speaker 11>going to be is going to be the city and

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<v Speaker 11>the politics, And that's kind of exactly what's happening.

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<v Speaker 4>We look at the.

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<v Speaker 2>Historic buildings and iconic businesses taken by the flames.

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<v Speaker 7>In a manner of hours. So many were lost, so

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<v Speaker 7>it's sort of unfathomable to even still get your arms around.

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<v Speaker 2>We hear from the local government about how we're supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to move forward. We examine the economic costs not just

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<v Speaker 2>to victims but to all of us.

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<v Speaker 1>We predict that talking projects will still increase in the

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<v Speaker 1>long term.

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<v Speaker 2>And then the independent phone app that many relied on

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<v Speaker 2>for up to the second information.

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<v Speaker 11>I would have assumed that you know, the same folks

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<v Speaker 11>who build roads and schools.

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<v Speaker 3>And infrastructure or going to be building a larning systems

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<v Speaker 3>to keep us informed.

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<v Speaker 9>And although they exist, they're not really properly used.

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<v Speaker 2>And how the disaster has given LA the opportunity to

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<v Speaker 2>come together.

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<v Speaker 11>There is a silver lining through this. It's a LA

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<v Speaker 11>has been really mobilized to where we've seen the best

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<v Speaker 11>of our city.

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<v Speaker 4>LA fires, a path forward.

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand.

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<v Speaker 2>Kf I Am six forty live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Michael Monks from KFI News. This is our special

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<v Speaker 2>report on the LA wildfires. When those fires broke out,

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<v Speaker 2>a familiar voice from afternoons here at KFI suddenly picked

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<v Speaker 2>up a new shift carrying the airwaves in the overnight hours.

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<v Speaker 12>By Am six forty.

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<v Speaker 13>It's Conway Show, a little bit late to our early

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<v Speaker 13>whatever wherever you are, but we are on There's First Respawn.

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<v Speaker 4>Tim Conwley Junior knows LA well.

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<v Speaker 12>On that Tuesday morning, I knew that we didn't have.

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<v Speaker 13>Helicopter footage because the President was in town, so I

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<v Speaker 13>knew it was much worse than we were seeing, much

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<v Speaker 13>much worse. Plus, I live in Burbank and I've grown

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<v Speaker 13>up in the San Fernando Valley my entire life. I

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<v Speaker 13>went to in Sino Elementary, Portola Junior High, Birmingham High School.

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<v Speaker 13>I did the whole valley run, and I've been here,

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<v Speaker 13>you know, greater than five decades, and I've never seen

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<v Speaker 13>wind like that, and I've ever felt win like that.

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<v Speaker 13>I felt like our house was going to be destroyed

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<v Speaker 13>by the by just the wind, not the fire, the wind.

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<v Speaker 13>We lost five trees on our property. I'm not complaining

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<v Speaker 13>a lot of people lost more, but I'm just telling

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<v Speaker 13>you as a barometer, those trees are old, and they're tough,

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<v Speaker 13>and they've never even shown any signs of being in

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<v Speaker 13>any stress or blown and they were completely blown down, you.

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<v Speaker 4>Know, the Palisades.

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<v Speaker 2>And even during the aftermath when the fires had kind

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<v Speaker 2>of gone out, going to cover it and driving on PCH,

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<v Speaker 2>you could see, like, ah, I understand why people want

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<v Speaker 2>to live here. I mean, like that is the California

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<v Speaker 2>people's minds, right right. I mean that's the palm trees,

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<v Speaker 2>It's the beaches, it's the little shacks that people are

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<v Speaker 2>eating in there on the on the waterfront. What does

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<v Speaker 2>it mean to have that California kana taken away from

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<v Speaker 2>La Well?

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<v Speaker 12>I think that.

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<v Speaker 13>I don't really I'll tell you, I'll be honest with you.

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<v Speaker 13>I don't think I've ever said this on the air.

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<v Speaker 13>I never felt comfortable in Palisades. I always thought that

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<v Speaker 13>those people were wealthier than I was, They had nicer

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<v Speaker 13>cars than I did. They were just like an upper

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<v Speaker 13>class people that I felt uncomfortable around. And I remember

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<v Speaker 13>going to a New Year's party there, no, I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 13>a Fourth of July party there last year, and I

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<v Speaker 13>just felt like everybody around there was super wealthy and

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<v Speaker 13>I felt like a scumbag in my twenty eighteen Lincoln Navigator.

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<v Speaker 13>So I go to the track all the time, which

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<v Speaker 13>is out in the Arcadia. I relate to those people.

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<v Speaker 13>More guys would go to you know, Kmart, Walmart, you know,

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<v Speaker 13>Standard shoes, Orange Julie is the old school guys. You know,

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<v Speaker 13>that's where my dad would be more comfortable hanging out.

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<v Speaker 13>And I think, as you know, as his kid, I

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<v Speaker 13>feel more comfortable with the people in the flats in Arcadia,

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<v Speaker 13>past the DNA and Alta Dina.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean to that end, though, there's something equalizing about

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<v Speaker 2>watching a neighborhood like that brought to the ground that

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<v Speaker 2>you've been here a long time, and LA is sort

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<v Speaker 2>of I mean, this is my perspective, but it seems

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<v Speaker 2>like a disconnected place. You've got your part of LA

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<v Speaker 2>and you know it well, and you don't necessarily know

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<v Speaker 2>what's going on on the other side of town.

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<v Speaker 4>You don't even necessarily care. There aren't a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>Of opportunities for the so called La strong. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>there's not a lot of let's come together, La. What

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<v Speaker 2>have you seen as an LA guy in that respect?

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<v Speaker 2>Is are you noticing some sort of neighborliness that has

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<v Speaker 2>never existed here before?

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<v Speaker 12>Well that's a good point. I remember.

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<v Speaker 13>Look, I still if I were to get in the

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<v Speaker 13>car right now and you'd say, hey, take me to Colt,

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<v Speaker 13>But I hear Colton on commercials when like a waterbed

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<v Speaker 4>You know, Colton, Colton, Colton water.

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<v Speaker 12>Bed store after fifty four years going out of business.

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<v Speaker 13>people have been burned out, all getting together and helping

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<v Speaker 13>and that lasts for a very short period of time,

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<v Speaker 13>It's starting to happen in Pasadena, Altadena and the Palisades well.

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<v Speaker 2>Broadcasting live as the fires cleaned countless homes, Tim helped

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<v Speaker 13>What a day in Los Angeles. Everybody will remember where

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<v Speaker 13>a ton of people, and a lot of people are

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<v Speaker 13>beyond their control. It's a fire. It's the worst thing

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<v Speaker 13>that can happen to your home. It happened so suddenly.

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<v Speaker 2>Tim's knowledge of LA helped him understand the impact on

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<v Speaker 13>It was the worst because you know these people who

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<v Speaker 13>it's a Wednesday afternoon, and there's a house on fire

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<v Speaker 13>in Pasadena. All four helicopters are over it, you know, two, four, five, seven,

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<v Speaker 13>nine eleven. Everybody's over it, talking about it. You can

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<v Speaker 13>see the smoke forever. It's the lead story on every newscast.

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<v Speaker 13>The home, nice home in Pasadena burned up. Well, multiply

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<v Speaker 13>that by fourteen thousand and we've never experienced anything like

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<v Speaker 12>Nobody knows how to handle it.

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<v Speaker 13>And even after the fires, nobody knows what to do

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<v Speaker 2>And with more fires erupting, even as the Palisades and

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<v Speaker 13>You'd be surprised how many people were listening overnight, you know,

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<v Speaker 13>I hate to use the term powerful, because you know,

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<v Speaker 13>I sound like an a hole, but when the fire

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<v Speaker 13>and there's no fire trucks around, and we kept telling everybody,

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<v Speaker 12>Got to get out of that area. You know, this

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<v Speaker 13>And then we heard back from people saying that they

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<v Speaker 2>Up next, we talk with folks from right here in

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<v Speaker 11>It's really hard to describe the loss because there's certain

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<v Speaker 11>things that you'll just you know, you can remember, but

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<v Speaker 2>And then the landmarks, we all lost a complete erature

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<v Speaker 7>It's sort of unfathomable to even still get your arms

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand.

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<v Speaker 2>KFI AM six forty live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Michael Monks from KFI News. This is La Fires

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<v Speaker 2>a path forward, our special look at what happened and

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<v Speaker 2>what happens next. The wildfires that engulf Pacific Palisades and

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<v Speaker 2>Alta Dina burned about thirty miles from each other, torching

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<v Speaker 2>different examples of life in La County. The Palisades the

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<v Speaker 2>quintessential southern California postcard image, waves crashing into the sand,

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<v Speaker 2>palm trees blowing in the breeze, Stately homes casting their

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<v Speaker 2>day's small town existence and in otherwise mega city, old

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<v Speaker 2>school business districts, cozy homes on tree lined streets with

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<v Speaker 2>mountains on the horizon. But the experience during the fires

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<v Speaker 2>were wildly similar, including the holding onto hope that the

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<v Speaker 2>forecasts would prove wrong or any fires would pass by.

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<v Speaker 9>I wasn't thinking about losing the house, or losing the neighborhood,

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<v Speaker 9>anything like that. I'm just thinking, just in case his life.

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<v Speaker 9>I have to be gone for the weekend. Sure, I'll

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<v Speaker 9>grab a few thieves, I grab a week's worth of stuff,

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<v Speaker 9>and I said, Okay, I'm gonna go back to work.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me know if anything happened to Walla. Sharp is

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<v Speaker 2>the producer of Leader with Mo Kelly here at KFI.

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<v Speaker 2>His family has lived in Altadena for decades. David Howard,

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<v Speaker 2>vice president of sales here at iHeartMedia, was also hopeful

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<v Speaker 2>at his home in the Palisades.

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<v Speaker 11>We knew that this one felt a little bit different.

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<v Speaker 11>My wife came home and she so we got to

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<v Speaker 11>yet because the wind. I wasn't trying to be a hero,

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<v Speaker 11>but the wind had shifted, and you know a couple

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<v Speaker 11>of us, like women, trying to stay and to our

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<v Speaker 11>best to save the property.

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<v Speaker 2>But the worst did happen, and both communities were nearly

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<v Speaker 2>entirely leveled. So much was taken that both men say

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<v Speaker 2>they got lost driving on streets they'd been down countless times.

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<v Speaker 11>There were you know, houses and burning on both sides

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<v Speaker 11>of sunset, embers flying, and we kind of paused for

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<v Speaker 11>a second and asked ourselves, is this a good idea as

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<v Speaker 11>it's safe? And my younger one asked me that, and

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<v Speaker 11>I said, you know, it's safe until we have to

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<v Speaker 11>turn around. And so we got through and I made

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<v Speaker 11>a sharp ride on Chatauqua which is the street that

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<v Speaker 11>takes us up to our house. And I literally lost

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<v Speaker 11>my I had no frame of reference as to where

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<v Speaker 11>there wasn't a structure as far as I could see

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<v Speaker 11>in any direction. So it was like, holy gosh, this

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<v Speaker 11>is this is a this is a total loss.

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<v Speaker 9>When I first re entered the city, I did not

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<v Speaker 9>know where I was because there were no recognizable landmarks

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<v Speaker 9>for me to know what street was what. I didn't

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<v Speaker 9>even recognize my own street because the different houses that

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<v Speaker 9>I know, I don't have to have a street sign.

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<v Speaker 9>I know where I'm at just by the houses or

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<v Speaker 9>or the car wash or whatever. To see all of

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<v Speaker 9>that gone, it tears the very hard out of me

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<v Speaker 9>each and every time.

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<v Speaker 2>And now David Howard and Touwalla Sharp are reckoning with

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<v Speaker 2>the immense loss.

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<v Speaker 11>It's amazing because literally every day, every night you'll kind

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<v Speaker 11>of wake up and go, oh my god, that's gone

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<v Speaker 11>to or you know, how do I replace that? Or

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<v Speaker 11>it's hard to It's so overwhelming because there's just so

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<v Speaker 11>many things to take care of in addition to remembering

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<v Speaker 11>the things that you lost.

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<v Speaker 9>There's no way by the time the warning, the sun

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<v Speaker 9>rose on the next day and we got the reports

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<v Speaker 9>that everything was gone. Even still there's no I couldn't

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<v Speaker 9>believe it. I could not believe it. Everything is gone.

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<v Speaker 2>And they both have questions for the government about preparation

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<v Speaker 9>Those of us who have been impacted are suffering, you know,

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<v Speaker 9>and so that that's the part that sucks. And it's

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<v Speaker 9>like even now we're having conversations where they're like, by

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<v Speaker 9>the end of February, phase one of the cleanup removal

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<v Speaker 9>of debris should be done. By hopefully end of March,

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<v Speaker 9>we should be done with phase two as far as

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<v Speaker 9>cleaning up a lot of the toxic debris and all

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<v Speaker 9>of that. But then then you should be able to

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<v Speaker 9>be like, we should be able to what we should

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<v Speaker 9>be able to move in and be right to mac

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<v Speaker 9>dab in the middle of what looks like a DMZ.

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<v Speaker 9>What are you talking about that's going to be having

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<v Speaker 9>ongoing construction.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah no, yeah, no, no, thanks.

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<v Speaker 11>No thanks. You know, said that they were ready for

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<v Speaker 11>you know, several days, and they weren't ready at all.

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<v Speaker 11>So it just its just I feel like I think

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<v Speaker 11>everybody feels it. As bad as it was, it could

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<v Speaker 11>have been less bad because but there was just no fight.

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<v Speaker 11>There was no resources at all, and it just it's

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<v Speaker 11>hard to comprehendo that happened. That makes this whole thing

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<v Speaker 11>the structure protection, you know, it would have been a

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<v Speaker 11>challenge in any way, shape or form. But to let

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<v Speaker 11>the city just burn and not have anybody trying to

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<v Speaker 11>save that part and there was no one saving it.

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<v Speaker 11>It was burning, and that they just kind of let

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<v Speaker 9>Now. Of course, there's all types of governmental organizations that

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<v Speaker 9>helping us with. They're helping us to get stuck in

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<v Speaker 9>red tape and bureaucracy and oh, you've got to call

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<v Speaker 9>this department, and this department says you got to call

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<v Speaker 9>this depart and then you get the run around. I

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<v Speaker 9>love all the politicians who out in front of the

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<v Speaker 9>cameras saying we are here to help help us do

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<v Speaker 9>what help us to get a busy signal, or help

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<v Speaker 2>As they navigate the aftermath to Wallace Sharp and David

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<v Speaker 2>Howard keep their happy memories.

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<v Speaker 9>Every every memory I have of life is in Alta Dina.

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<v Speaker 9>Every memory that I have, my my fondest childhood memories.

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<v Speaker 9>The things that make me who I am come from

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<v Speaker 9>living in Alta Deena. If you've ever heard me on

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<v Speaker 9>Later with mo Kelly or the mo Kelly Show, you

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<v Speaker 9>Pasadena Alta Dina area, because it is so just etched

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<v Speaker 4>Take us to a better time.

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<v Speaker 2>When you first moved into that house, what was it

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<v Speaker 2>about it that let you know that was going to

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<v Speaker 11>I mean it was, you know, it was was everything

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<v Speaker 11>you could ever dream of, you know, the incredible town,

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<v Speaker 11>incredible unity, people that really cared about each other, people

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<v Speaker 11>that took care of each other and still are by

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<v Speaker 2>And there was one happy discovery in the pile of

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<v Speaker 11>My wife had left your wedding ring in the safe

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<v Speaker 11>that we had in our bedroom.

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<v Speaker 2>He found the safe but couldn't open it the handle

427
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<v Speaker 2>had melted away.

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<v Speaker 11>Frustrated, he gave up, like I said, I can't do

429
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<v Speaker 11>this anymore. And I sat down on the cement on

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<v Speaker 11>the driveway and I picked up the safe and I

431
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<v Speaker 11>tilted it on its side, and by the grace of God,

432
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<v Speaker 11>I don't even know how it safe door opened. I

433
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<v Speaker 11>was like, oh my God. I looked up at the

434
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<v Speaker 11>sky and I said, really, I really, like, is this

435
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<v Speaker 11>really happening? I said, was God, please let me find

436
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<v Speaker 11>this ring, and please let it be intact. And after

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<v Speaker 11>a few minutes of pulling out you know, debris, ash

438
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<v Speaker 11>and stuff that probably you know, just burnt, I felt

439
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<v Speaker 11>the I felt the ring and I pulled it out,

440
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<v Speaker 11>and I was like, oh my God, and it was

441
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<v Speaker 11>there intact. And I started just bawling, you know, just shaking.

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<v Speaker 4>And now the focus returns to building again. Somehow.

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<v Speaker 11>Every time I drove home, I literally but I think,

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<v Speaker 11>would be so thankful and so appreciative that I had

445
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<v Speaker 11>the opportunity to, you know, to build a home there

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<v Speaker 11>and raise my kids there.

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<v Speaker 9>I truly, truly, truly hope and pray that Altadena can rebuild,

448
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<v Speaker 9>and that that character and and that thing that I

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<v Speaker 9>grew up with can be there for future generations to see.

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<v Speaker 4>I just, I just, I just. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>In our next hour the government response, if trust has

452
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<v Speaker 2>been damaged in this disaster, can it be regained? But first,

453
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<v Speaker 2>the place is lost in the fires that we all.

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<v Speaker 7>Know, the places you know, we're anchored in terms of

455
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<v Speaker 7>why people loved being in the Pupa or Altadena.

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<v Speaker 4>When La Fires.

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<v Speaker 2>A Path Forward continues after this report for the KFI

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<v Speaker 2>twenty four hour News Room.

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to KFI AM six forty on.

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<v Speaker 2>Demand, KFIAM six forty live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.

461
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<v Speaker 2>I'm Michael Monks from KFI News. This is La Fires

462
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<v Speaker 2>A Path Forward, our special look at what happened and

463
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<v Speaker 2>what happens next. The images, especially the ones from the

464
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<v Speaker 2>sky showing what used to be Alta, Dina or the Palisades,

465
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<v Speaker 2>are shocking to see the scenes of devastation up closes

466
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<v Speaker 2>a different experience altogether. Once vibrant neighborhoods, loving homes, active churches,

467
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<v Speaker 2>and busy tourist destinations turn to a heap of smoldering

468
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<v Speaker 2>ash in a matter of moments, fireplace chimneys, all that

469
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<v Speaker 2>remain on many lots, standing in rows like gravestones in

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<v Speaker 2>a neighborhood cemetery. To lose one's home is a tragedy

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<v Speaker 2>most of us will thankfully never know. But we've all

472
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<v Speaker 2>experienced the loss of a favorite restaurant, a quirky shot,

473
00:24:09.400 --> 00:24:12.759
<v Speaker 2>we loved, a landmark that meant something to us, And

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<v Speaker 2>that's what's relatable in the case of these wildfires. Even

475
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<v Speaker 2>if we didn't live in the Palisades or Altadena, we

476
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<v Speaker 2>probably knew something there or wanted to know something there soon,

477
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<v Speaker 2>and now we can't. Will Rogers Ranch House, Moonshadows, Altadena

478
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<v Speaker 2>Community Church, the Bunny Museum. Those are just some of

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<v Speaker 2>the landmarks taken by the fires.

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<v Speaker 7>These places help you know, we're anchors in terms of

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<v Speaker 7>why people love to be in the life. Loved being

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<v Speaker 7>in the Palisades or Altadena. But it's really a stronger

483
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<v Speaker 7>sense of community and the people, and we always say

484
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<v Speaker 7>people plus places in terms of our work. It's not

485
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<v Speaker 7>just about saving historied buildings, about the stories and the

486
00:24:52.359 --> 00:24:54.599
<v Speaker 7>people that are connected to those places. So when you

487
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<v Speaker 7>lose an entire neighborhood like James Hillage, in Altadena. Yes,

488
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<v Speaker 7>it's a loss for every one of those wonderful, sweet

489
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<v Speaker 7>little nineteen twenties and thirties houses, but it's really about

490
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<v Speaker 7>the loss of the community and what that represents, how

491
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<v Speaker 7>important that is to both of these places that you know,

492
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<v Speaker 7>experience such profound and incalculable losses.

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<v Speaker 2>Adrian Scott Fine is the president and CEO of the

494
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<v Speaker 2>LA Conservancy, which documents the history of old buildings and

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<v Speaker 2>landmarks and often fights to preserve them. I know that

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<v Speaker 2>your organization works hard to preserve historic landmarks across LA.

497
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<v Speaker 2>They face a variety of challenges, maybe neglect, maybe the

498
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<v Speaker 2>threat of development, but it's not often that we have

499
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<v Speaker 2>a disaster of this magnitude that takes so many beloved

500
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<v Speaker 2>properties all at once. I mean, just share with me

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<v Speaker 2>from a preservationist perspective what these fires were like.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, we've never had anything like this in terms of

503
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<v Speaker 7>the sheer number of places that have all been lost

504
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<v Speaker 7>at one point in time. In preservation, we're used to

505
00:25:55.559 --> 00:25:58.440
<v Speaker 7>working to help save places, but you know, usually it's

506
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<v Speaker 7>a building by building situation. In this case, you know,

507
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<v Speaker 7>in a manner of hours, so many were lost, So

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<v Speaker 7>it's sort of unsaddenable to even still get your arms

509
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<v Speaker 7>around what was here and what is now gone and

510
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<v Speaker 7>the kind of places that told stories that about the

511
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<v Speaker 7>Palisades and Altadena that there are no other places that

512
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<v Speaker 7>can impart that story.

513
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<v Speaker 2>The list of historic properties, tourist destinations, and community centers

514
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<v Speaker 2>reads like an obituary for the spirit of Altadena and

515
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<v Speaker 2>the Palisades.

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<v Speaker 7>It was just, again, just seeing so many places disappear.

517
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<v Speaker 7>I would say that part of it was for myself,

518
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<v Speaker 7>and certainly I was hearing from others. And since then,

519
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<v Speaker 7>is this understanding that we take historic places for granted,

520
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<v Speaker 7>that we're learning about places that we didn't know were

521
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<v Speaker 7>there before and that we now wish we had visited

522
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<v Speaker 7>and seen an experience before they were gone. So I

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<v Speaker 7>think part of that is is what we're dealing with that,

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<v Speaker 7>I would say everyone, whether you lost your you know,

525
00:27:05.599 --> 00:27:09.279
<v Speaker 7>your individual house or business, or it's a very significant

526
00:27:09.319 --> 00:27:13.519
<v Speaker 7>historic place, it's a profound sense of loss in terms

527
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<v Speaker 7>of what collectively we're all experiencing.

528
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<v Speaker 2>The wife of legendary funny man Will Rogers, donated their

529
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<v Speaker 2>Palisades property to the state of California. It's now known

530
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<v Speaker 2>as Will Rogers State Historic Park, but ninety years after

531
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<v Speaker 2>Will Rogers' death, his ranch, house and other structures were

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<v Speaker 2>lost in the Palisades fire.

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<v Speaker 7>This was his ranch. This is a place that he

534
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<v Speaker 7>was very you know, firmly connected to in terms of

535
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<v Speaker 7>his persona, and it's been a beloved place for generations

536
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<v Speaker 7>of Angelinas and others visiting to go to experience. We

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<v Speaker 7>just had a we do a heritage project with high

538
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<v Speaker 7>school kids, and we just had our most recent class

539
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<v Speaker 7>out there, you know, visiting the ranch and learning how

540
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<v Speaker 7>the lasso and other kinds of things that you know,

541
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<v Speaker 7>without that house, without the barn and the stable and

542
00:28:01.559 --> 00:28:05.680
<v Speaker 7>other buildings, it's less real. The land is still there

543
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<v Speaker 7>and you know the ranch, but you know, those physical

544
00:28:09.559 --> 00:28:12.920
<v Speaker 7>built aspects are now missing in terms of being able

545
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<v Speaker 7>to illustrate his full story.

546
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<v Speaker 2>Zane Gray may not have reached the same level of

547
00:28:17.680 --> 00:28:21.839
<v Speaker 2>fame as his contemporary Will Rogers, but the novelist also

548
00:28:21.960 --> 00:28:25.799
<v Speaker 2>owned a home lost in the wildfires, a sprawling estate

549
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<v Speaker 2>in Altadena.

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00:28:26.759 --> 00:28:29.279
<v Speaker 7>This house was very much, you know, the gem of

551
00:28:29.319 --> 00:28:33.240
<v Speaker 7>Altadena in terms of, you know, just a really seminal

552
00:28:33.279 --> 00:28:37.279
<v Speaker 7>place in terms of that community. And it's been a

553
00:28:37.319 --> 00:28:39.839
<v Speaker 7>private residence and it was in the process of being

554
00:28:39.920 --> 00:28:43.960
<v Speaker 7>restored by you know, owners that loved this house, and

555
00:28:44.400 --> 00:28:48.000
<v Speaker 7>for that to be gone is again just one more,

556
00:28:48.440 --> 00:28:50.599
<v Speaker 7>you know, as these losses add up, but this is

557
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<v Speaker 7>certainly a big one in terms of early Altadena in

558
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<v Speaker 7>Los Angeles history.

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<v Speaker 2>Fine says, the profound loss of so many landmarks, all

560
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<v Speaker 2>all at once can impact a community sense of self.

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<v Speaker 7>Then you have places that make up our fabrics of

562
00:29:05.519 --> 00:29:09.319
<v Speaker 7>our communities, the places that we come to love and

563
00:29:09.519 --> 00:29:13.079
<v Speaker 7>we expect to see on a daily basis. They are

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<v Speaker 7>the legacy businesses like Altadena Hardware, or like the Bunny Museum.

565
00:29:17.680 --> 00:29:20.839
<v Speaker 7>You know, kind of a colectic, very unusual. Only Altadena

566
00:29:20.920 --> 00:29:23.960
<v Speaker 7>had a bunny museum. So it's these kinds of places

567
00:29:24.000 --> 00:29:27.400
<v Speaker 7>that really form and are the essential ingredients to what

568
00:29:27.599 --> 00:29:31.920
<v Speaker 7>makes community special and you know unique. It's about the people,

569
00:29:32.000 --> 00:29:35.440
<v Speaker 7>but it's also about the community that formed around these

570
00:29:35.519 --> 00:29:40.079
<v Speaker 7>kind of institutions, from churches to semagogues to you know, museums,

571
00:29:40.160 --> 00:29:43.240
<v Speaker 7>all these different aspects and certainly restaurants that you know,

572
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<v Speaker 7>are all part of the fabric that are is now

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<v Speaker 7>missing in any way.

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<v Speaker 4>He says.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the other important pieces of fabric the community

576
00:29:50.720 --> 00:29:54.519
<v Speaker 2>that made Altadena and Pacific palis As home must be

577
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<v Speaker 2>put at the center of the rebuilding effort.

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<v Speaker 7>I think that is one of the biggest concerns that

579
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<v Speaker 7>we have, is that people will get pushed out or

580
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<v Speaker 7>displaced and it will become something entirely different than it

581
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<v Speaker 7>ever was before. Certainly there are efforts to you know,

582
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<v Speaker 7>think about pattern books and guides to streamline reviews and

583
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<v Speaker 7>offer you know, off the shelf kind of designs for

584
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<v Speaker 7>houses that had some semblans of what was there before.

585
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<v Speaker 7>And then that's part of this. But again it goes

586
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<v Speaker 7>back to community and people and making sure that they're

587
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<v Speaker 7>they're they're front and center and any rebuilding effort.

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<v Speaker 2>In our next hour, the government response is it fast enough,

589
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<v Speaker 2>is it efficient enough?

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<v Speaker 4>And the estimated cost.

591
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<v Speaker 2>Of the damage has skyrocketing and is forecast to hit

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<v Speaker 2>all of us in various ways. When LA fires may

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<v Speaker 2>pass forward continuous KFI A M six

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<v Speaker 1>Forty KFI A six on demand
