WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:03.520 This is Dan Caples and welcome to today's online podcast 2 00:00:03.640 --> 00:00:05.759 edition of The Dan Caplis Show. Please be sure to 3 00:00:05.759 --> 00:00:08.240 give us a five star rating if you'd be so kind, 4 00:00:08.320 --> 00:00:11.599 and to subscribe, download, and listen to the show every 5 00:00:11.679 --> 00:00:15.480 single day on your favorite podcast platform. What is the 6 00:00:15.519 --> 00:00:17.839 American Way going to be? What's it going to mean? 7 00:00:17.960 --> 00:00:20.039 Is it going to be what it's always been, the 8 00:00:20.079 --> 00:00:22.559 best of it? Or is there going to be a 9 00:00:22.600 --> 00:00:26.480 new American way? And part of that is what we 10 00:00:26.760 --> 00:00:29.399 open with today, not because we want to, but because 11 00:00:29.440 --> 00:00:31.160 we have to. We have plenty of fun stuff to 12 00:00:31.239 --> 00:00:33.600 do in the show today, but we have to open 13 00:00:33.679 --> 00:00:37.240 with this because we're adults, right, We're responsible adults. We 14 00:00:37.359 --> 00:00:41.600 have to open with the latest schools slaughter. And we 15 00:00:41.679 --> 00:00:44.079 have to open with that because the children and the 16 00:00:44.159 --> 00:00:47.799 teachers and everyone affected deserves the respect of that. 17 00:00:47.960 --> 00:00:49.560 But also because we know. 18 00:00:49.640 --> 00:00:52.840 The next school shootings in Colorado are being planned right now. 19 00:00:53.240 --> 00:00:55.039 We know they're being planned. 20 00:00:54.719 --> 00:00:55.880 As we speak. 21 00:00:55.920 --> 00:00:59.520 They're always being planned in Colorado, and then it's just 22 00:00:59.560 --> 00:01:02.920 a matter of which ones are going to get to 23 00:01:02.960 --> 00:01:04.519 the point that people are killed. 24 00:01:05.239 --> 00:01:06.599 And so we have to. 25 00:01:06.599 --> 00:01:11.120 Talk about what's happened in Georgia today. To learn the lessons, right. 26 00:01:11.280 --> 00:01:14.239 I think we have that obligation, just as responsible people. 27 00:01:14.319 --> 00:01:17.000 We have the obligation to learn the lessons from school 28 00:01:17.000 --> 00:01:20.560 shootings to make sure that mistakes aren't repeated in the future. 29 00:01:20.599 --> 00:01:22.480 And as we look at Georgia right now, we don't 30 00:01:22.519 --> 00:01:24.920 know if there are any mistakes made by this school 31 00:01:25.040 --> 00:01:27.760 or school district or not. We don't know what the 32 00:01:27.840 --> 00:01:30.560 lessons from Georgia will be, but we sure as all 33 00:01:30.599 --> 00:01:34.719 know this, we've got to learn them. And the reputations 34 00:01:34.760 --> 00:01:39.519 and feelings and politics of school districts and administrators and 35 00:01:39.599 --> 00:01:43.079 politicians down there shouldn't matter at all. It should all 36 00:01:43.120 --> 00:01:45.920 be about getting to the truth, learning the lessons, and 37 00:01:45.959 --> 00:01:50.239 making schools safer. But that brings us to Colorado, right, 38 00:01:51.079 --> 00:01:55.359 because we know that more are coming, and we know 39 00:01:55.599 --> 00:01:59.239 that because Colorado is controlled by the left, the left 40 00:01:59.239 --> 00:02:02.719 that cares more about their anti gun ideology than they 41 00:02:02.760 --> 00:02:06.680 do the lives of these students that we have many, many, many, 42 00:02:06.719 --> 00:02:09.919 many children in Colorado who are left defenseless as we speak. 43 00:02:09.960 --> 00:02:12.560 I mean, school days pretty much over right now except 44 00:02:12.560 --> 00:02:15.759 for extracurricular stuff. But when they go back tomorrow at 45 00:02:15.800 --> 00:02:19.560 seven thirty eight, eight thirty nine, whatever, many of school 46 00:02:19.639 --> 00:02:24.120 children in Colorado will be left defenseless because of the 47 00:02:24.199 --> 00:02:28.439 Left and their anti gun politics, which which brings them 48 00:02:28.479 --> 00:02:32.039 to the point where they're so opposed to guns that 49 00:02:32.080 --> 00:02:36.120 they make a conscious decision to leave the most precious 50 00:02:36.120 --> 00:02:39.479 thing on the face of the earth, these students sitting 51 00:02:39.520 --> 00:02:44.240 there defenseless against a bad guy with a gun. They 52 00:02:44.280 --> 00:02:48.120 make that decision in advance. It's premeditated, it's deliberate. It's 53 00:02:48.199 --> 00:02:51.240 made in boardrooms, it's made in the governor's office, it's 54 00:02:51.280 --> 00:02:55.319 made under the Golden Dome. They make these decisions in advance. 55 00:02:55.439 --> 00:02:59.080 That's what the Left does. And then they shed crocodile 56 00:02:59.159 --> 00:03:02.919 tears when these Colorado kids get killed in classrooms, and 57 00:03:03.000 --> 00:03:07.319 they try to twist those horrific killings to take away 58 00:03:07.360 --> 00:03:10.479 Second Amendment rights, rather than do what they should have 59 00:03:10.479 --> 00:03:13.039 done in the beginning, which is say, Okay, we know 60 00:03:13.159 --> 00:03:16.159 that there are bad guys coming for our kids. We're 61 00:03:16.199 --> 00:03:18.120 going to make sure they at least have a fighting 62 00:03:18.240 --> 00:03:21.439 chance when the bad guys get their Instead, they decide 63 00:03:21.479 --> 00:03:26.240 the opposite. They decide to leave those children defenseless. And 64 00:03:26.800 --> 00:03:29.639 how awful that is in every level right, and how 65 00:03:29.639 --> 00:03:32.319 awful it is to the teachers and staff and everybody 66 00:03:32.319 --> 00:03:36.560 else in schools. And we've seen teachers, right, We've seen 67 00:03:36.599 --> 00:03:40.000 the teachers like Dave Sanders. He's not the only example. 68 00:03:40.080 --> 00:03:42.120 They stand up and be willing to lay down their 69 00:03:42.120 --> 00:03:46.400 lives to protect their students. But far better that these 70 00:03:46.400 --> 00:03:48.879 schools and districts in advance would just say, we know 71 00:03:48.919 --> 00:03:50.800 the bad guys are coming. We're not going to play 72 00:03:50.840 --> 00:03:54.680 Russian Roulette with our kids' lives and our staff and faculty, 73 00:03:55.520 --> 00:03:58.199 and we're just going to have at least one good 74 00:03:58.199 --> 00:03:59.840 guy or gal with a gun there to give him 75 00:03:59.840 --> 00:04:02.400 a fighting chance. Sake five for zero five eight two 76 00:04:02.479 --> 00:04:05.039 five five the number. But nope, not the left in Colorado. 77 00:04:05.800 --> 00:04:07.960 And it's one of the prices we pay for living 78 00:04:08.120 --> 00:04:12.120 in a leftist control controlled state, which raises the question, 79 00:04:12.759 --> 00:04:15.520 you know, every now and then somebody will say, yeah, hey, 80 00:04:15.520 --> 00:04:18.000 why don't you move? And you know what rais is 81 00:04:18.120 --> 00:04:22.720 a really interesting question. First, I'm not gonna move because 82 00:04:22.759 --> 00:04:23.439 I'm a fighter. 83 00:04:24.079 --> 00:04:24.959 I'm not going to run. 84 00:04:25.279 --> 00:04:27.800 You know, I was so blessed and privileged to be 85 00:04:28.360 --> 00:04:32.519 dropped into this beautiful place, you know, through the Evans 86 00:04:32.560 --> 00:04:35.439 Scholarship program moved me out from Chicago, put me in 87 00:04:36.079 --> 00:04:39.240 University of Colorado, Boulder with all the other golf caddies who, 88 00:04:39.319 --> 00:04:41.160 like Caddyshack, won the scholarship. 89 00:04:41.519 --> 00:04:43.920 No, I'm so blessed to be here. I'm a fighter. 90 00:04:43.959 --> 00:04:44.639 I'm not gonna run. 91 00:04:44.680 --> 00:04:46.360 I'm going to stay and try to make it as 92 00:04:46.360 --> 00:04:48.959 good as I can make it. But I do wonder, 93 00:04:49.040 --> 00:04:53.360 and Ryan, you're kind of in this position. I mean, 94 00:04:53.480 --> 00:04:57.199 like when you have kids, or I don't know, maybe 95 00:04:57.240 --> 00:05:00.680 you do already. No, how do you know that? 96 00:05:01.480 --> 00:05:04.720 I'm very sure I would have been notified by now. 97 00:05:05.240 --> 00:05:06.600 You think so court order. 98 00:05:06.439 --> 00:05:07.360 Of some kind. I think so. 99 00:05:08.079 --> 00:05:10.720 I mean unless it's like the movie elf Right where 100 00:05:10.800 --> 00:05:13.519 Buddy shows up and yeah, all those years have gone by. 101 00:05:13.600 --> 00:05:15.800 I guess it could be possible. I can't rule it out, 102 00:05:16.000 --> 00:05:18.279 but I'm ninety nine percent that all I'm saying. Let's 103 00:05:18.279 --> 00:05:22.519 say that you meet missus right tomorrow. 104 00:05:22.680 --> 00:05:25.800 Awesome, Okay, it would be miss right then then she'd 105 00:05:25.800 --> 00:05:28.600 become missus right eventually. Okay, that'd be the plan hopefully 106 00:05:28.600 --> 00:05:31.759 with you. But let's say you meet her tomorrow. Do 107 00:05:31.800 --> 00:05:33.319 you raise your kids in Colorado? 108 00:05:33.480 --> 00:05:35.399 A really good question, I'd be. 109 00:05:37.800 --> 00:05:39.920 I'd be very hesitant to do so, but I was 110 00:05:40.000 --> 00:05:41.279 just thinking about in your shoes. 111 00:05:42.120 --> 00:05:44.360 If I were you, I wouldn't move back to Illinois. 112 00:05:44.439 --> 00:05:47.800 I mean, that's not gonna be any power that was. 113 00:05:48.360 --> 00:05:50.920 Not on the list, you know, early on, because you know, 114 00:05:51.759 --> 00:05:54.800 my wife had so many and I'm sure lots of 115 00:05:54.839 --> 00:05:56.720 people listening had been in the same position, right, But 116 00:05:57.160 --> 00:05:59.800 she had so many great job opportunities because she was 117 00:05:59.800 --> 00:06:02.120 so very good at what she did as a news anchor. 118 00:06:02.160 --> 00:06:04.240 So every now and then we'd fly out. 119 00:06:04.279 --> 00:06:06.560 I remember one big trip to San Diego where it 120 00:06:06.639 --> 00:06:09.079 reached the point of looking at homes and everything else 121 00:06:09.279 --> 00:06:12.120 because of job opportunities for her out there. 122 00:06:12.040 --> 00:06:12.680 And everything else. 123 00:06:12.720 --> 00:06:15.480 And then we looked around and she just said, no, no, 124 00:06:15.720 --> 00:06:19.199 Colorado's so great. We're we're just staying in Colorado. 125 00:06:19.240 --> 00:06:19.399 Now. 126 00:06:19.399 --> 00:06:22.879 That was before legalization marijuana, yep. That was before the 127 00:06:23.000 --> 00:06:26.720 left took over completely. That was before all of this 128 00:06:26.959 --> 00:06:30.959 other ugliness. So, you know, our kids now are older. 129 00:06:31.000 --> 00:06:32.600 I mean it always you know, as a parent, right, 130 00:06:32.639 --> 00:06:36.040 it's just your kids are always fill in the blank. 131 00:06:36.040 --> 00:06:38.600 They're always six, they're always seven, they're always eight, they're 132 00:06:38.639 --> 00:06:42.800 always you know, your kids. But they're older now, you know, 133 00:06:42.879 --> 00:06:46.439 and so we're not facing those issues. But if they were, 134 00:06:47.199 --> 00:06:49.600 it would be I think it'd be fifty to fifty 135 00:06:49.639 --> 00:06:50.480 on whether we'd stay. 136 00:06:50.600 --> 00:06:53.079 Could I be lured? That is a different question, And 137 00:06:53.279 --> 00:06:55.519 the answer to that is yes. And the three states 138 00:06:55.519 --> 00:06:59.399 that come to mind almost immediately are Texas, Florida, and Tennessee. 139 00:06:59.639 --> 00:07:01.480 And do the math from there as to why those 140 00:07:01.519 --> 00:07:02.639 would be Yeah for me. 141 00:07:02.759 --> 00:07:06.399 Yeah, yeah, no, so interesting interesting it. 142 00:07:06.560 --> 00:07:09.480 Uh kight five five for zero five A two five 143 00:07:09.639 --> 00:07:12.439 five text d A N five seven seven three nine. 144 00:07:12.480 --> 00:07:15.639 It's nothing personal, it's not a pejorative. We just know 145 00:07:16.160 --> 00:07:21.120 that leftist policies make for a much more dangerous state 146 00:07:21.160 --> 00:07:24.199 in so many different ways. And crime, I mean you 147 00:07:24.240 --> 00:07:26.279 start with that obviously, and then and then you start 148 00:07:26.319 --> 00:07:29.759 with legalization of drugs, and then you start with stuff 149 00:07:29.879 --> 00:07:32.920 like this of not willing to protect most school kids 150 00:07:32.959 --> 00:07:36.079 with an armed good guy, that kind of stuff. They're 151 00:07:36.160 --> 00:07:38.000 just more dangerous places to live. 152 00:07:38.879 --> 00:07:42.279 Yeah, And I think about too, Dan, what's going on 153 00:07:42.399 --> 00:07:45.279 right now in Aurora? I just spoke with a very 154 00:07:45.319 --> 00:07:49.519 impassioned Danielle Jirinsky Yes on my program and it was 155 00:07:49.560 --> 00:07:54.040 a very moving conversation. And would that be happening in 156 00:07:54.040 --> 00:07:56.759 Polk County, Florida with Sheriff Brady Judd. 157 00:07:58.800 --> 00:08:01.519 I can't wait to see what happen in Chicago because 158 00:08:01.680 --> 00:08:04.399 you know, I grew up in Chicago. My dad was 159 00:08:04.439 --> 00:08:07.639 a cop there for thirty years. And my dad, we 160 00:08:07.680 --> 00:08:08.959 were talking about this the other day. 161 00:08:09.240 --> 00:08:09.879 But he was. 162 00:08:09.920 --> 00:08:14.199 Such a stud and so talented, and before his heart 163 00:08:14.240 --> 00:08:16.639 attack when he was in his sixties, he was going 164 00:08:16.759 --> 00:08:19.759 like six three two forty and he was an athlete. Yeah, 165 00:08:19.800 --> 00:08:22.560 and anyway, you know, one of his first big assignments 166 00:08:22.639 --> 00:08:25.759 was undercover with gangs. Hey, he's a six foot three 167 00:08:25.759 --> 00:08:28.360 and a half white guy, back when six foot three 168 00:08:28.560 --> 00:08:29.399 was really tall. 169 00:08:29.519 --> 00:08:32.000 Yeah, yeah, but he was so good he could pull 170 00:08:32.039 --> 00:08:32.720 all that stuff up. 171 00:08:33.000 --> 00:08:36.799 All I'm telling you is these Venezuelan gangs trying to 172 00:08:36.799 --> 00:08:40.519 take over apartment complexes back there. You could you could 173 00:08:40.559 --> 00:08:44.120 retire Chicago's debt by selling the cable rights to. 174 00:08:44.120 --> 00:08:46.320 That, right, totally. 175 00:08:46.480 --> 00:08:52.679 Yeah, Crips, bloods peastone Nation. I mean, oh man, I 176 00:08:53.000 --> 00:08:56.200 don't think. I don't think the Venezuelan gang knows what 177 00:08:56.200 --> 00:08:57.320 it's getting into there. 178 00:08:57.399 --> 00:08:59.720 My point on that, Dan, it kind of goes along 179 00:08:59.720 --> 00:09:00.279 with Linds. 180 00:09:00.360 --> 00:09:02.919 What you're saying and what I'm implying that Sheriff Grady 181 00:09:03.000 --> 00:09:06.519 Judd County, Florida, anywhere in Florida, anywhere in Texas. 182 00:09:06.679 --> 00:09:07.720 This is not going to happen. 183 00:09:07.759 --> 00:09:10.559 And why not, because you deserve what you tolerate, Dan, 184 00:09:10.840 --> 00:09:13.960 And unfortunately, right now, for whatever reason, there are powers 185 00:09:14.000 --> 00:09:16.200 that be in Aurora, in the state of Colorado at 186 00:09:16.240 --> 00:09:19.000 large that are tolerating this well, so they deserve it. 187 00:09:19.080 --> 00:09:22.159 Well, wait a second, I'll take it a step further. 188 00:09:23.320 --> 00:09:27.360 You endorse what you tolerate, correct, And they tolerated for 189 00:09:27.480 --> 00:09:28.279 a reason. 190 00:09:28.759 --> 00:09:29.840 They want this. 191 00:09:30.159 --> 00:09:31.960 I'm not saying that the left sits here and says, oh, 192 00:09:32.039 --> 00:09:33.960 I want that apartment complex taken over by. 193 00:09:33.879 --> 00:09:34.840 Venezuela and kangs. 194 00:09:34.840 --> 00:09:38.039 No, but they'll deny it's happening, right, they'll light to 195 00:09:38.080 --> 00:09:41.360 your face right, just for political reasons. But they want 196 00:09:41.399 --> 00:09:43.799 the border open, they want all the What they see 197 00:09:44.519 --> 00:09:47.840 is Democrat voters coming over. And they don't care how 198 00:09:47.840 --> 00:09:50.120 many young girls get raped on the trip to the border, 199 00:09:50.120 --> 00:09:52.000 how many of their mothers get raped, how many of 200 00:09:52.039 --> 00:09:55.360 their dads get killed. They don't see these people as human, 201 00:09:55.639 --> 00:09:59.399 They see them as numbers. They see them as Democrat votes, 202 00:10:00.080 --> 00:10:02.399 and so they lure them up to the border. They 203 00:10:02.399 --> 00:10:04.759 want them flowing across the border in record numbers. And 204 00:10:04.799 --> 00:10:06.879 if that means somebody's gonna bang. 205 00:10:06.720 --> 00:10:08.440 Down your door out in Aurora and. 206 00:10:08.440 --> 00:10:11.000 Stand there with a semi automatic rifle. 207 00:10:11.039 --> 00:10:12.759 What Democrats don't care about that? 208 00:10:13.120 --> 00:10:15.000 Eight five five for zero five A two five to 209 00:10:15.080 --> 00:10:18.240 five the number when we come back, Kamala Harris has 210 00:10:18.360 --> 00:10:19.600 finally agreed to. 211 00:10:19.519 --> 00:10:20.559 The debate rules. 212 00:10:20.840 --> 00:10:22.799 Why do you think she's so scared of them? I 213 00:10:22.840 --> 00:10:25.799 believe I know that answer. You're on the Dan Kapla Show. 214 00:10:27.720 --> 00:10:30.120 And now back to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast. 215 00:10:30.840 --> 00:10:34.200 In twenty nineteen, she endorsed she raised her hand during 216 00:10:34.200 --> 00:10:36.919 a debate when when the Democratic candidates r president were asked, 217 00:10:37.080 --> 00:10:41.080 do you support decriminalizing illegal border crossing? She did raise 218 00:10:41.080 --> 00:10:44.000 her hand. I understand her position now is more to 219 00:10:44.120 --> 00:10:46.360 the center or more even conservative. 220 00:10:47.799 --> 00:10:49.919 Before I play the rest of this, understand what's going 221 00:10:49.960 --> 00:10:53.039 on here? Okay, this is Jake Tapper. I'm live with 222 00:10:53.120 --> 00:10:58.240 Senator Mark Kelly from Arizona, and Tapper's trying to give 223 00:10:58.279 --> 00:11:03.120 her another what's a polite term, another massage here right? 224 00:11:03.200 --> 00:11:05.200 Another? Somebody said it the other day while. 225 00:11:05.080 --> 00:11:08.200 A columnist described that CNN interview as a sponge bath 226 00:11:08.720 --> 00:11:11.000 so trying to give her another sponge bath here by 227 00:11:11.000 --> 00:11:11.720 saying oh, no. 228 00:11:11.559 --> 00:11:13.679 No, she's her position has moved to the center. 229 00:11:13.879 --> 00:11:17.360 No, no, she wanted to decriminalize border crossings, and now 230 00:11:17.399 --> 00:11:19.919 she's saying she wouldn't, and anybody who believes her is 231 00:11:19.960 --> 00:11:22.519 out of their mind. But that's a setup to listen 232 00:11:22.559 --> 00:11:26.279 to this new excuse that Kelly is offering for her. 233 00:11:27.000 --> 00:11:27.960 Does she need to explain? 234 00:11:28.080 --> 00:11:30.240 Well, I think she has explained it. 235 00:11:30.279 --> 00:11:32.600 I mean you're talking about a primary in twenty nineteen, yes, 236 00:11:32.639 --> 00:11:34.440 where somebody asked, you know, throw your hand up. 237 00:11:34.519 --> 00:11:36.200 Yes, you know, you got like a half a second 238 00:11:36.200 --> 00:11:36.840 to think about it. 239 00:11:37.799 --> 00:11:40.559 So that's the defense. Now, Oh, she only had half 240 00:11:40.600 --> 00:11:42.480 a second to think about it, So of course she 241 00:11:42.559 --> 00:11:45.600 threw her hand up and said, yes, decriminalize the border. 242 00:11:46.440 --> 00:11:49.919 So that's how stupid all these democrats think we are. 243 00:11:50.360 --> 00:11:52.679 You think she hadn't thought about that issue before then, 244 00:11:52.759 --> 00:11:56.000 It hadn't come up before then whether border crossing should 245 00:11:56.039 --> 00:11:59.799 be decriminalized. Well, even if he's right, it's a disqualifier 246 00:12:00.200 --> 00:12:02.519 on something that major. She would say, Oh, I got 247 00:12:02.519 --> 00:12:04.720 half a second, Yeah, I decriminalize the border. 248 00:12:04.919 --> 00:12:06.720 You know what I do In those scenarios, Dan I'm 249 00:12:06.720 --> 00:12:10.279 watching Mark Kelly just spew that ridiculousness. I put Dan 250 00:12:10.360 --> 00:12:12.840 Caplis on that stage, in that moment, and with one 251 00:12:12.879 --> 00:12:15.240 second to think, Dan, do you think you would have 252 00:12:15.279 --> 00:12:18.360 formulated a response that was in accordance with your values 253 00:12:18.840 --> 00:12:19.639 on any topic? 254 00:12:19.759 --> 00:12:20.000 Well? 255 00:12:20.120 --> 00:12:22.879 Yes, but as you know, any of us far in 256 00:12:22.960 --> 00:12:26.200 advance would have anticipated that question and decided what our 257 00:12:26.240 --> 00:12:28.480 answer was going to I'm talking whether it happened through 258 00:12:28.480 --> 00:12:30.879 a show of hands or hey tell me, do you 259 00:12:30.919 --> 00:12:34.799 want to decriminalize the border? So anyway, that's the newest excuse. 260 00:12:34.879 --> 00:12:36.759 Now this is a lead into and I want to 261 00:12:36.759 --> 00:12:39.039 work in calls as well as text, but it's a 262 00:12:39.120 --> 00:12:42.200 lead into the big flashing headline as we hit air 263 00:12:42.240 --> 00:12:45.240 today that Kamala Harris's camp has finally I put in 264 00:12:45.279 --> 00:12:48.000 the finally agreed to the terms of the debate. I 265 00:12:48.039 --> 00:12:51.840 want to touch on why she is so terrified of 266 00:12:51.879 --> 00:12:54.279 those rules, and I think it may be a reason 267 00:12:54.279 --> 00:12:57.480 that you haven't considered russ In Littleton, You're on the 268 00:12:57.559 --> 00:12:58.960 Dan caplessh'. 269 00:12:58.440 --> 00:13:01.399 Welcome, Hi, how are you doing? 270 00:13:01.559 --> 00:13:04.799 Living the dream? Thank you? 271 00:13:04.919 --> 00:13:07.759 They have me too, trying to at least, Hey, these 272 00:13:07.759 --> 00:13:10.240 shootings are all the same, They're never gonna find out 273 00:13:10.679 --> 00:13:14.120 anything other than somebody shot somebody. You know, they used 274 00:13:14.159 --> 00:13:16.320 the gun, and they need to take the guns away. 275 00:13:17.240 --> 00:13:19.519 That's their argument. We're going to get it's the only 276 00:13:19.519 --> 00:13:22.000 solution we're gonna get. You're only investigating, we're gonna get. 277 00:13:22.000 --> 00:13:24.159 They're gonna say they're gonna investigate. Oh, we're looking to it. 278 00:13:24.159 --> 00:13:25.840 We'll do everything, can't look in at blah blah blah, 279 00:13:25.840 --> 00:13:28.600 blah blah. How many of these shootings in the past 280 00:13:28.679 --> 00:13:34.399 twenty five years from Columbine has anything been disclosed as 281 00:13:34.440 --> 00:13:38.519 far as what, why man anything else other than the gun, 282 00:13:38.759 --> 00:13:41.120 as the gun is what we got what? But there's 283 00:13:41.200 --> 00:13:43.679 no why. There's never a why there. They don't touch that. 284 00:13:43.679 --> 00:13:45.399 They locked the guy away. Not that I'm saying he's 285 00:13:46.120 --> 00:13:49.240 he's riper, he's got a good thing to express. But 286 00:13:49.279 --> 00:13:51.159 they say, well, we give him attention, and then they're 287 00:13:51.159 --> 00:13:54.919 gonna create more killers. That's all. That's a lie. If 288 00:13:54.960 --> 00:13:57.799 you don't want to, you know, look into a problem 289 00:13:58.080 --> 00:14:01.799 because you're afraid you're gonna give the attention. He cures 290 00:14:01.840 --> 00:14:03.600 dead already, he's going to jail with us in his 291 00:14:03.639 --> 00:14:05.200 life or whatever was going to happen here. 292 00:14:05.240 --> 00:14:09.159 Yeah, Well, Russ, You're hitting on something really important and 293 00:14:09.519 --> 00:14:12.200 in my opinion, and I know a little bit about this, 294 00:14:12.279 --> 00:14:16.480 and I'll tell you why. The reason that so often 295 00:14:17.879 --> 00:14:21.200 parents who have had their child murdered, other parents who 296 00:14:21.200 --> 00:14:25.399 want school safer can't get full answers is because the 297 00:14:25.519 --> 00:14:29.559 people who made mistakes want to bury those mistakes. They 298 00:14:29.600 --> 00:14:32.399 want to hide those mistakes, and they often have very 299 00:14:32.480 --> 00:14:37.120 powerful interest groups supporting them as they try to bury 300 00:14:37.159 --> 00:14:41.039 and hide their mistakes. And that leads to one of 301 00:14:41.039 --> 00:14:45.679 the great success stories ever. And that's right here in Colorado. 302 00:14:45.720 --> 00:14:50.000 Because Russ started with Columbine. Right everybody listening, if they 303 00:14:50.000 --> 00:14:53.320 were here, remembers the moment they heard about Columbine. But 304 00:14:53.679 --> 00:14:57.919 following Columbine, obviously there had to be a major investigation, 305 00:14:58.759 --> 00:15:02.399 and there was an investigative panel put together, but it 306 00:15:02.519 --> 00:15:06.480 didn't have subpoena power. And then there was I think 307 00:15:06.519 --> 00:15:08.360 it was the Speaker of the House at the time, 308 00:15:08.679 --> 00:15:12.240 had suggested that there be a commission with subpoena power 309 00:15:12.759 --> 00:15:17.480 headed by me to investigate what happened at Columbine. And 310 00:15:17.559 --> 00:15:19.639 I told them I would take that job, and I 311 00:15:19.639 --> 00:15:22.919 would lead the investigation as long as we had subpoena power, 312 00:15:23.360 --> 00:15:26.879 So the Speaker pushed that, but it got shot down. 313 00:15:27.480 --> 00:15:30.120 So they ended up with the Commission without subpoena power, 314 00:15:30.159 --> 00:15:33.679 and obviously that got frustrated in a hundred different ways. 315 00:15:34.000 --> 00:15:37.720 Now that's a lead up to this success story after. 316 00:15:37.960 --> 00:15:40.159 And you can't call it a success story, right because 317 00:15:40.440 --> 00:15:44.600 the change that should have happened decades before didn't happen 318 00:15:44.720 --> 00:15:48.320 because of politics and self interest among powerful people and 319 00:15:48.360 --> 00:15:53.000 everything else. But then you have two wonderful parents with 320 00:15:53.120 --> 00:15:57.759 their beautiful daughter, Claire Davis, and she gets murdered at 321 00:15:57.799 --> 00:16:01.360 a rap hole, and her parents want answers. They don't 322 00:16:01.360 --> 00:16:03.879 want money, they don't want anything. They want answers. They 323 00:16:04.080 --> 00:16:05.919 want to know the truth. They want to know about 324 00:16:05.919 --> 00:16:07.279 the failure so other kids. 325 00:16:07.039 --> 00:16:07.879 Can be protected. 326 00:16:08.919 --> 00:16:13.559 So Claire's parents then wage this heroic fight and they 327 00:16:13.679 --> 00:16:19.480 enlisted these really smart, courageous, well connected, powerful people, and 328 00:16:19.559 --> 00:16:22.679 they were able to engineer a bipartisan bill called the 329 00:16:22.720 --> 00:16:26.960 Claire Davis Act, which then changed Colorado law to make 330 00:16:27.000 --> 00:16:29.919 it clear there was a duty of schools to take 331 00:16:30.000 --> 00:16:33.480 reasonable steps to protect kids, and if a child was 332 00:16:33.600 --> 00:16:37.039 murdered at school, that the parents would then have the 333 00:16:37.120 --> 00:16:40.720 legal tools to go in and investigate and find the truth, 334 00:16:41.159 --> 00:16:46.200 such as if they filed a lawsuit depositions, subpoenas, get documents, 335 00:16:46.399 --> 00:16:51.360 et cetera, get witnesses under oath. So, thanks to Claire's parents, 336 00:16:51.919 --> 00:16:55.120 we now have that law in Colorado. And then when 337 00:16:55.440 --> 00:17:00.720 one of Colorado's greatest heroes ever, Kendrick Castillo, was or school, 338 00:17:00.799 --> 00:17:04.720 saving his class, his entire class and the two teachers 339 00:17:04.720 --> 00:17:08.720 in there from the methodical execution which the killers had 340 00:17:08.720 --> 00:17:10.960 planned out very carefully. They were going to execute each 341 00:17:11.000 --> 00:17:14.799 of them one by one, and Kendrick stopped that and 342 00:17:14.839 --> 00:17:19.920 other brave classmates assisted. But after that, Kendrick's parents, John 343 00:17:19.960 --> 00:17:23.039 and Maria said, you know, we want the truth. We 344 00:17:23.079 --> 00:17:25.599 want to protect others, and so they used the Claire 345 00:17:25.680 --> 00:17:29.000 Davis Act and they pursued a lawsuit. Not for money, 346 00:17:29.039 --> 00:17:32.039 They've turned down the money at every turn. They pursued 347 00:17:32.079 --> 00:17:34.799 a lawsuit to get to the truth so the lessons 348 00:17:34.839 --> 00:17:37.839 would be learned and all would benefit and schools would 349 00:17:37.880 --> 00:17:41.119 be made safer. And I've had the privilege of representing them, 350 00:17:41.720 --> 00:17:45.519 and we've been through years of litigation that I've taken 351 00:17:45.599 --> 00:17:48.240 twenty depositions in that case at this point. And then 352 00:17:48.279 --> 00:17:51.279 we fought for a year. We fought for a year 353 00:17:51.440 --> 00:17:55.119 to get the information in the depositions made public because 354 00:17:55.160 --> 00:17:59.920 the school was trying to suppress that, and we've been 355 00:18:00.079 --> 00:18:02.799 in court fighting that over a year. We've just recently 356 00:18:02.880 --> 00:18:07.680 had final rulings in that case. In almost every area 357 00:18:08.359 --> 00:18:11.359 the Castillos prevailed, so not of that information can be 358 00:18:11.440 --> 00:18:15.400 made public. So the heroism of the Davis parents and 359 00:18:15.440 --> 00:18:17.880 everybody who assisted them in getting that long place. Now 360 00:18:17.920 --> 00:18:19.480 there is a way to get to the bottom of it, 361 00:18:19.839 --> 00:18:22.319 and what we've learned, I think will scare. 362 00:18:22.079 --> 00:18:26.920 You you're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast. 363 00:18:27.640 --> 00:18:32.160 I come from a long line of tough, trail blazing 364 00:18:32.240 --> 00:18:39.319 and phenomenal women. My grandmother would go into villages in India. 365 00:18:39.440 --> 00:18:43.960 And because she was Indian and lived in India, and 366 00:18:44.000 --> 00:18:47.839 she would go to the villages in India. It was 367 00:18:47.880 --> 00:18:50.400 a famous story in our family. My grandfather would say 368 00:18:50.440 --> 00:18:51.880 she was going to be the end of his career, 369 00:18:52.359 --> 00:18:55.160 but my grandmother would go into the villages with a bullhorn, 370 00:18:56.160 --> 00:18:58.599 talking with the women about the need to have access 371 00:18:58.880 --> 00:18:59.960 to reproductive healthcare. 372 00:19:01.960 --> 00:19:03.319 Do you believe that for one second? 373 00:19:03.599 --> 00:19:07.880 Kamala Harris's grandmother going village to village in India. 374 00:19:07.559 --> 00:19:13.400 Kill your children, Kill your children before it's too late. 375 00:19:14.160 --> 00:19:16.640 Does anybody believe that with a megaphone with a. 376 00:19:16.640 --> 00:19:23.200 Bullhorn, kill your kids before it's too late? 377 00:19:24.440 --> 00:19:25.440 Anybody believe that? 378 00:19:26.240 --> 00:19:30.200 No, A, we should, we should do a segment on 379 00:19:30.799 --> 00:19:35.119 biggest whoppers, right, I mean, and you flash kind of 380 00:19:35.119 --> 00:19:37.920 immediately to Hillary Clinton, but but just kind of the 381 00:19:37.960 --> 00:19:42.599 biggest whoppers that you get from these candidates. Wow, And 382 00:19:42.640 --> 00:19:46.400 she's proud of that. She's proud of these people who 383 00:19:46.400 --> 00:19:50.319 worship death. I do not get it. I mean no, 384 00:19:50.400 --> 00:19:53.599 but none of us have to be scientists or philosophers 385 00:19:53.720 --> 00:19:58.680 or anything else to realize wow, life, Like that's amazing. 386 00:19:59.119 --> 00:20:04.400 That is really cool, and not too many people get 387 00:20:04.440 --> 00:20:09.039 it and just be in awe of it. And yet 388 00:20:09.039 --> 00:20:11.279 you got this whole group of people out there who 389 00:20:11.359 --> 00:20:15.559 glorify the mass killing of it, and then they're proud 390 00:20:15.599 --> 00:20:17.680 of it, like her, proud to the point they'll make 391 00:20:17.759 --> 00:20:23.119 up stories that yet we're so into this killing that 392 00:20:23.519 --> 00:20:27.319 my grandma went village to village in India with a 393 00:20:27.440 --> 00:20:29.119 bullhorn saying. 394 00:20:29.119 --> 00:20:31.279 Kill, kill, kill, And. 395 00:20:31.359 --> 00:20:34.480 So interesting that that even in this made up story 396 00:20:35.000 --> 00:20:38.279 she talks about Okay, so she went bullhorn village to 397 00:20:38.400 --> 00:20:40.880 village talking about quote, reproductive rights. 398 00:20:41.839 --> 00:20:43.960 Now everybody knows that's a lie. 399 00:20:43.880 --> 00:20:49.359 Because you're there reproductive rights. No, wait a second, why 400 00:20:50.079 --> 00:20:52.319 why wasn't she talking about abortion rights? And this this 401 00:20:52.400 --> 00:20:54.680