Speaker 1: It's nice with Dan Ray. I'm going you easy Boston's
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Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Madison. As we get as we
Speaker 2: begin another week of Nightside, my name is before measured
Speaker 2: Dan Ray with us here back in the control room.
Speaker 2: I'm in the remote studio, back in the control room.
Speaker 2: And Rob Brooks. Rob gutted his way in tonight. A
Speaker 2: little bit of a little carp trouble, but nothing stops
Speaker 2: Rob Brooks. He just keeps on. He's like the energizer Bunny.
Speaker 2: So Rob, thank you for pushing through and getting there.
Speaker 2: In a little bit of a shout out to a
Speaker 2: couple of guys who hung around a little extra Luke
Speaker 2: and Dan to make sure that everything was covered up.
Speaker 2: That's teamwork, teamwork right here on WBZ. Okay, we have
Speaker 2: four very interesting guests coming up tonight. We are also
Speaker 2: going to talk later about the death of that little
Speaker 2: five year old back in late April in Hyde Park.
Speaker 2: Little boy got off a bus and the bus allegedly
Speaker 2: hit him and took his life. And there's been very
Speaker 2: little information available period, and we need to We will
Speaker 2: talk with a First Amendment lawyer on this situation and
Speaker 2: why why the information has not been forthcoming, my guest
Speaker 2: is will be Attorney Rob Perscie and Bertshee and get
Speaker 2: that pronunciation correctly. And then later on tonight I'm going
Speaker 2: to talk about a judge in trouble, Shelley Joseph, the
Speaker 2: judge who seems to be again in big troubles. Her
Speaker 2: hearing began today. They could eventually remove her from the
Speaker 2: bench and if we can get around to it. Those
Speaker 2: la riots looked pretty nasty in Los Angeles, but we
Speaker 2: have a couple of We have some optimistic stories, including
Speaker 2: the arrival of Red Sox Outfield of Room and Anthony
Speaker 2: Great author coming up about a vanishing act, a guy
Speaker 2: who was somehow able to fake his own death. We'll
Speaker 2: talk with Jerry Jamison on that. We'll talk about the
Speaker 2: value of an extra two to four cups of coffee
Speaker 2: a day. But first off, Sheriff Patrick McDermott of Norfolk
Speaker 2: County and the first Norfolk County Recovery Fest benefiting the
Speaker 2: recovery community will be held Saturday, June fourteenth, This Saturday
Speaker 2: from eleven to three, Sheriff McDermott, I know that you
Speaker 2: and the folks at the Norfolk County Sheriff's Office are
Speaker 2: really into an effort not to have people spend time
Speaker 2: in jail, but to get them onto the road of recovery.
Speaker 2: And this is the first recovery fest.
Speaker 3: Tell us about it, well, thanks Dan for having me
Speaker 3: on and give me an opportunity to share with your
Speaker 3: audience some of the great work that we're doing in
Speaker 3: the Sheriff's Office and particularly with our partnership with our
Speaker 3: friends throughout the recovery community. The four pillars the Sheriff's
Speaker 3: Office are prevention, intervention, education, and hope. And as you
Speaker 3: mentioned before, we do everything in our part to try
Speaker 3: to cut down on the amount of incarceration that goes on.
Speaker 3: And certainly most of the folks that are coming through
Speaker 3: the criminal justice system these days tragically have substance use
Speaker 3: disorder issues, alcohol related issues, and mental health issues. And
Speaker 3: so we have partnered up with over seventy vendors who
Speaker 3: are in the recovery movement to put on this great day.
Speaker 3: We're billing it as a day of music and hope
Speaker 3: with a family friendly environment, and we're inviting the members
Speaker 3: of the community, members not just the recovery community, but
Speaker 3: the community at large, to come by and give some
Speaker 3: support to this movement to make sure that people get
Speaker 3: on the right track. And it really is a labor
Speaker 3: of love and a calling for many of these recovery
Speaker 3: movement nonprofits, and specifically we're partnering up with the Way
Speaker 3: of Life Foundation at Weymouth. There are partners for this
Speaker 3: particular event, and with all the other vendors there, we
Speaker 3: really want to make it a day of hope for people.
Speaker 3: We've got a great lineup of music, We've got food
Speaker 3: for those that want to come here, and for those
Speaker 3: that know about the brain Tree Public Safety Complex at
Speaker 3: twenty fifteen Washington Street and Braintree, it is also the
Speaker 3: home of our very popular ropes course and we're going
Speaker 3: to be opening that up to the kids, maybe some
Speaker 3: adults who experience the thrilling zip line that we have.
Speaker 3: We'll also have a miniature golf opportunity and a competitive
Speaker 3: cornhole tournament sponsored by the Massachusetts Young People in Recovery.
Speaker 2: Wow. That's great, and I know that our good mutual
Speaker 2: friend Steve Sweeney will be there sharing some stories and
Speaker 2: some jokes and adding to the levity of what can
Speaker 2: be a pretty serious day for a lot of people.
Speaker 2: So it's a nice ballance. You got going.
Speaker 3: It's great. And not many people know this about Steve's
Speaker 3: any You know, most people see him as a movie star,
Speaker 3: as a comedian. They see him at Giggle, they see
Speaker 3: him at the comedy stuff. But Steve Sweeney is a
Speaker 3: committed member of the recovery community and he gives back
Speaker 3: so much more than he can possibly imagine. And he
Speaker 3: works for me at the Norfolk Sheriff's Office. I know
Speaker 3: he does some work in the Plymouth County Sheriff's Office
Speaker 3: in recovery and so, but he does that. He brings
Speaker 3: his comedy, he brings his his celebrity status to it.
Speaker 3: And we also have though not only was Steve Sweeney there,
Speaker 3: but there RMC of the day. Now, you and I
Speaker 3: Dan probably don't know this gentleman, but a gentleman by
Speaker 3: the name of Mathematics, and he's going to be in
Speaker 3: charge of keeping the audience engaged from the stage throughout
Speaker 3: the day. In Mathematics is quite a popular figure with
Speaker 3: the younger crew.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I know who Mathematics. I have all of
Speaker 2: his records, you do. I got a whole bunch of
Speaker 2: other people, I see. You have the Christian samp cham
Speaker 2: Champagne and the condresholes the blow justin clancy. So is
Speaker 2: this is as I understand it, This is open to
Speaker 2: the public.
Speaker 3: Number one, It's first and foremost, it's free. That is,
Speaker 3: it is open to the public with plenty of entertainment.
Speaker 3: We are going to be feeding everybody. We'll have our
Speaker 3: once again, we have our tactical picnic unit as we
Speaker 3: call them, the Sheriff's Office, ready to serve up some
Speaker 3: burgers and dogs for the population. And these are all
Speaker 3: you know, none of this is it's free to the public.
Speaker 3: But what we did is we partner it up with
Speaker 3: some nonprofits so to offset the cost of this. So
Speaker 3: this is being funded by tax payer money. This is
Speaker 3: this is something that we're running through our nonprofit to
Speaker 3: make sure that that folks have access to these recovery programs.
Speaker 2: That's great. So this is Saturday, June fourteenth, starts at
Speaker 2: eleven in the morning, that's perfect timing. Lunch will be served,
Speaker 2: it goes to the exactly afternoon. And you mentioned this
Speaker 2: zip line, which which should be a lot of fun.
Speaker 2: And you got this corn old tournament. Lots of stuff
Speaker 2: going on here and this is all is it indoors
Speaker 2: or partially in and partially out because in case it's
Speaker 2: a Saturday in New England, which means it may very
Speaker 2: well in all probability will rain this rain or shine
Speaker 2: tell us about it.
Speaker 3: It hasn't been sunny on a Saturday since March and
Speaker 3: unfortunately what it was.
Speaker 2: I think I believe it hasn't been sunny in a
Speaker 2: Saturday since about nineteen fifty seven. I believe ted we
Speaker 2: might be correcting for the red sox.
Speaker 3: You might be correct far back as.
Speaker 2: I remember, Sheriff, which is about nineteen fifty seven.
Speaker 3: We are forecasting though, that we're going to despite what
Speaker 3: the weather forecasters are saying. We believe that, you know,
Speaker 3: New England weather is very unpredictable, and even though on
Speaker 3: the paper today it's saying that there's a chance of
Speaker 3: showers on Saturday, this is a rain or shine event.
Speaker 3: We do have a contingency plan that we do have
Speaker 3: a big pavilion down there, that we have indoor tent
Speaker 3: set up and things of that nature, so we'll be
Speaker 3: able to run this rain or shine. But we just
Speaker 3: you know, at the end of the day, it's the
Speaker 3: message of hope that we want to get out there
Speaker 3: and we don't need sunshine to bring hope to this
Speaker 3: recovery community and this recovery festival. It's the people that
Speaker 3: are there. It's the joy that's being spread and the
Speaker 3: success stories that we're going to have with people being
Speaker 3: able to overcome addiction issues, alcohol issues, and drug addiction.
Speaker 2: Yeah, my understanding is that there will be there'll be
Speaker 2: plenty of entertainment in the air that we can guarantee
Speaker 2: that in terms of our own weather forecast with a
Speaker 2: chance of laughs with Steve Sweeney, there's always a chance
Speaker 2: of laughs and a lot of entertainment, that's for sure. Sheriff,
Speaker 2: a great job you want of those committed sheriffs here
Speaker 2: in Massachusetts, which I think really is concerned about the
Speaker 2: inmates and as much as you are about public safety.
Speaker 2: And my hat's off to you. Thank you so much
Speaker 2: for joining us tonight.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much. Dan appreciate it. And your audience
Speaker 3: is fantastic.
Speaker 2: Thanks so much. We'll talk soon when we get back.
Speaker 2: We have an author with a great book that my producer,
Speaker 2: Marita McKinnon found. I am fascinated and I think you'll
Speaker 2: be by our next guest. His name is Jerry Jamison,
Speaker 2: and he's going to talk about a vanishing act essentially,
Speaker 2: how I think a guy blew up a plane over
Speaker 2: the Gulf of Mexico, caused a lot of deaths and
Speaker 2: basically tried to disappear from the world. Way do you
Speaker 2: hear this one? Coming up? A little bit later on,
Speaker 2: we'll talk about the newly brought up. He's been brought
Speaker 2: up to the big Club. Roman Anthony going to talk
Speaker 2: with Dan Watkins, who's a news guy but also a
Speaker 2: big sports guy, and we're going to talk about cups
Speaker 2: of coffee. My name is Dan Ray. Again. If you
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Speaker 1: It's night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 2: Welcome back everyone. We interview a lot of authors during
Speaker 2: this hour, but there's not been an author lately that
Speaker 2: I have looked forward to interviewing more than Jerry Jamison.
Speaker 2: Jerry Jamison, Welcome to Nightside. This is a fascinating book
Speaker 2: that you have written. I must be honest. I haven't
Speaker 2: read it, but I can't wait to read it. It's
Speaker 2: entitled Vanishing Act, A crashed Airliner, fake death and back
Speaker 2: room Abortions. Real life story of con artist Robert Spears. Uh,
Speaker 2: this guy faked his own death successfully. Yeah, it was.
Speaker 4: It was really only the last chapter of an outrageous
Speaker 4: life that led up to that. I mean, it's a
Speaker 4: it's a story that that stretches the imagination, but it's
Speaker 4: all true.
Speaker 2: It's unbelievably, unbelievablely true. Meaning this guy, how did he
Speaker 2: end up? I assume this occurred in the late fifties,
Speaker 2: when he had brought an airliner down, he convinced a
Speaker 2: friend of his to fly on the plane, and he
Speaker 2: kept the friends the friend's identification. What a what a
Speaker 2: bad man this guy was.
Speaker 4: The word bad does not describe it.
Speaker 2: But this is family radio.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's true. Even more profound than that is the
Speaker 4: fact that his friend was his very very best friend,
Speaker 4: his close friend, best man in each other's wedding vacation
Speaker 4: together for decades. Families were very very close. These were
Speaker 4: two men that were as close as any two brothers
Speaker 4: could possibly be. And yet he parlayed that trust and
Speaker 4: to asking his close friend brother to just carry a
Speaker 4: package on board a plane and take his plane ticket,
Speaker 4: which in the nineteen fifties you could do. You could
Speaker 4: hand over a plane ticket and said take my ticket,
Speaker 4: and all I want you to do is take this
Speaker 4: package on the plane.
Speaker 2: But he also somehow had the guy's wallet in his identification.
Speaker 2: When the guy got out of his car, what did
Speaker 2: he pick his pocket?
Speaker 4: No, it was more calculated than that. He had flown
Speaker 4: from Dallas to Tampa to meet with his buddy Al
Speaker 4: Taylor to discuss potential business business opportunity that they were
Speaker 4: going to be involved in together as partners. Al was
Speaker 4: very excited about this opportunity and they met at the
Speaker 4: Tampa International Airport just a couple of days before Thanksgiving
Speaker 4: in nineteen fifty nine, and they were talking about this
Speaker 4: business opportunity. The waitresses at the coffee shop remember him well.
Speaker 4: They were laughing, they were having a great time. Other
Speaker 4: diners remember these two guys as being so close and
Speaker 4: so happy and right before so in this situation, Al
Speaker 4: Taylor was going to drive his brand new car back
Speaker 4: to Dallas and Doctor Spears was going to fly there.
Speaker 4: They would meet together for the meetings. At the last minute.
Speaker 4: According to records, Al Taylor just happened to mention that
Speaker 4: he had a really stiff neck because he'd been in
Speaker 4: a car accident a few weeks earlier. And Doctor Spears
Speaker 4: maintains that he said, you know what, I'm up for
Speaker 4: a road trip. You give me your wallet, you give
Speaker 4: me your registration, you give me your car keys and
Speaker 4: your license. I'll drive over there. I'll drive through the night.
Speaker 4: You take my plane ticket. It's only about a forty
Speaker 4: minute plane flight and you'll be there in no time.
Speaker 4: All I need you to do is deliver this package
Speaker 4: to my wife, So don't lose the package.
Speaker 2: Which, of course I assume held the bond that blew up.
Speaker 4: It was the time bomb. It was timed, he said it,
Speaker 4: gave it to him, and twenty two minutes later the
Speaker 4: plane was at the bottom of the Gulf of Mexico,
Speaker 4: never to be recovered because it actually went down so deep.
Speaker 2: So this guy's was brilliant. So how did they Well,
Speaker 2: they finally caught him. He materialized. And I don't want
Speaker 2: to give away the ending. Okay, that's not the point.
Speaker 2: The point is to get people to read the book,
Speaker 2: and I want to read the book as well. But
Speaker 2: when they finally did catch him, what did they do
Speaker 2: with him? Meaning, in other words, did he spend the
Speaker 2: rest of his life in prison? I hope.
Speaker 4: Well, no justice was not served. This is an interesting thing.
Speaker 4: Although he was named as the top ten most wanted
Speaker 4: by the FBI. In fact, Jay Abdar Hoober at the
Speaker 4: time called a specific press conference just basically to say,
Speaker 4: we are after this guy. I mean, he took down
Speaker 4: Everyone in that plane died, you know, crew and passengers,
Speaker 4: and he although everybody was looking for him, when they
Speaker 4: eventually found him, they could not pen this on him.
Speaker 4: They just didn't feel like they had enough evidence, which incidentally,
Speaker 4: I was able through the Freedom of Information Act to
Speaker 4: get all the FBI files, just thousands of pages of interviews,
Speaker 4: so I really got to the very source of it.
Speaker 4: And they just felt like they couldn't charge him. So
Speaker 4: what they did is they charged him. And this will
Speaker 4: be very similar to the al Capone tax evasion story.
Speaker 4: They charged him for transporting a stolen vehicle across state
Speaker 4: lines for that car that he drove. Now that sent
Speaker 4: him to Terminal Island in Long Beach for five years.
Speaker 4: And in a very very cinematic scene when he walks
Speaker 4: out of prison, the classic, you know, the big gates
Speaker 4: open up and he walked, sat in his cheap suit.
Speaker 4: He took two steps outside and he was arrested by
Speaker 4: the LAPD and sentenced to ten years in prison for abortion.
Speaker 2: Wow. And I assume and hope that he has moved
Speaker 2: on to his just rewards, whether you believe it in
Speaker 2: afterlife or not.
Speaker 4: Well, he is a long run.
Speaker 2: Yes, that's what I though.
Speaker 4: He was released on humanitarian grounds because he had cancer,
Speaker 4: and he died in his bed of a heart attack
Speaker 4: one year later.
Speaker 2: Well, the thing that's horrible about that is that he
Speaker 2: was given to humanitarian considerations, but he didn't give humanitarian
Speaker 2: considerations of the people on that area.
Speaker 4: And yeah, the irony of it all is and through
Speaker 4: the whole book Vanishing Act, it's written like a novel.
Speaker 4: So your listeners understand it's written like a novel. It's
Speaker 4: a page turner. I mean you yourself when you go
Speaker 4: to read it, you'll be reading is I mean, you'll
Speaker 4: turn those pages as quickly as you can because one
Speaker 4: thing leads to another so quickly, and and it's just
Speaker 4: a fast and hinks story because well, we are fascinating with.
Speaker 2: These sort of stories, Jerry, I mean when you think
Speaker 2: about the guy that you know that that hijacked the
Speaker 2: plane and a dB cooper who parachuted out of the
Speaker 2: back of the plane. They never found him, they find
Speaker 2: some of the money. That's the next story you should
Speaker 2: be working on, because you did a great job on this.
Speaker 2: And I think that a lot of people are going
Speaker 2: to be interested in reading this book, uh and just
Speaker 2: getting the backstory. How does someone like this become that
Speaker 2: that inhuman, that inhuman that he not only you know,
Speaker 2: send his friend to his death, but whoever, many people
Speaker 2: are on that plane. And I'm sure there were people
Speaker 2: going home for Thanksgiving to see family members that probably
Speaker 2: were some kids, some older folks, some grandparents maybe, And
Speaker 2: but oh god, what a what an evil evil SOB,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 4: You're exactly right, if you know, anytime there's a plane crash,
Speaker 4: even today, right the next day of the newspaper, are
Speaker 4: these heartbreaking, heartrending stories of you know, the personal lives
Speaker 4: that were involved in the people that were going back.
Speaker 4: You know, somebody was going to a wedding, people are
Speaker 4: seeing grandchildren. I mean, all of these horrible stories enlisted
Speaker 4: right among them in the newspapers is you know, acclaimed
Speaker 4: obg y n doctor Robert Spears is among those.
Speaker 3: That are lost.
Speaker 4: Incidentally, he never told his wife and children about this,
Speaker 4: and they were in agony and torment that their you know,
Speaker 4: husband and father was killed in this plane crash.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well he was obviously trying to go create. Wow. Look, Jerry,
Speaker 2: I've really enjoyed the interview Jerry Jamison. The book is
Speaker 2: Vanishing Act a crashed airliner, faked death and backroom abortions.
Speaker 2: Read the life story of con artist Robert Spears. The
Speaker 2: subject of his book is the personification of evil, Jerry,
Speaker 2: I assume it's available on Amazon and bookstores. Do you
Speaker 2: want to send anybody, any of my listeners to a
Speaker 2: specific website. Some of our authors will have a website
Speaker 2: where they'll inscribe books that they will send out to
Speaker 2: people who purchase them.
Speaker 4: Yeah, anybody can contact me through my website Jerry Jamison
Speaker 4: dot com, J A. M. I. S. O. N. Jerry
Speaker 4: Jamison dot com. But the book itself is available any
Speaker 4: place you want to get a book.
Speaker 2: Well, that's great, best of luck with this. It's a
Speaker 2: great story. Maybe a few months from now we'll have
Speaker 2: you back and we can have you tell the whole story.
Speaker 2: But I didn't want the whole story to be told tonight.
Speaker 2: I've interviewed enough authors to know you kind of.
Speaker 4: The story is huge and fascinating, and I know your
Speaker 4: listeners would love to hear. He is a con artist
Speaker 4: like you, could not conceive the things that he did
Speaker 4: in his lifetime of people that lined up to hand
Speaker 4: him money.
Speaker 2: I hope wherever he is now, he's being that justice
Speaker 2: has finally found him. If you get my drift. Thanks Jerry,
Speaker 2: appreciate your.
Speaker 4: Time absolutely, Thank you so much.
Speaker 2: All Right, Well, the Red Sox are down three to
Speaker 2: one to Tampa Bay and Roman Anthony has made his debut.
Speaker 2: We're going to be talking with WBZ news anchor, also
Speaker 2: sports reporter, guy who probably loves baseball as much as
Speaker 2: I do, Dan Watkins, about the debut the much anticipated
Speaker 2: debut of Red Sox right fielder tonight, Roman Anthony, coming
Speaker 2: back right after the news at the bottom of the hour.
Speaker 1: Night side with Dan Ray on WBZ Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2: Well, we normally don't like the publicize what's going on
Speaker 2: on other venues at this point, but there's a an
Speaker 2: event going on at Fenway Park tonight that draws a
Speaker 2: little bit more notice than a Monday night game against
Speaker 2: the Tampa Bay Rays would ordinarily with us IS news anchor,
Speaker 2: also sports reporter and sports fanatic good friend Dan Watkins, Dan,
Speaker 2: what took them so long to call up Roman Anthony
Speaker 2: from the miners. I mean, it's this team has been
Speaker 2: struggling and they needed a jump start. I'm not sure
Speaker 2: if he's going to provide that jump start, but boy,
Speaker 2: he arrives amongst such great anticipation. He's being described as
Speaker 2: the number one prospect in all the minor leagues.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, that is the million dollar question, right
Speaker 5: what has taken them so long. There's several reports out
Speaker 5: there Dan that you know, they've been really trying to
Speaker 5: make sure that they have his service time under control
Speaker 5: and without getting way you know, too much into the details,
Speaker 5: and then the weeds here on this. Basically, they want
Speaker 5: to make sure that he doesn't have a full year
Speaker 5: of service time right now this year in twenty twenty five,
Speaker 5: so they can get an extra year before he hits
Speaker 5: free agency when he's like twenty seven years old and
Speaker 5: he's in the prime of his career. So it's really hard.
Speaker 2: My understanding is that that service time it used to be,
Speaker 2: you know, he had to be up for the entire season,
Speaker 2: so they could keep a guy down a few of
Speaker 2: the dates in April. Nowadays they based it upon at
Speaker 2: bats abs, So if you have an adequate number of
Speaker 2: at bats, even though you might play three and a
Speaker 2: half months, you can get you can get credit for
Speaker 2: a year service time.
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's that, and then there's also, if you want
Speaker 5: to go even further into this, if he finishes in
Speaker 5: the top two of the Rookie of the Year voting,
Speaker 5: he's given a full year of service time. As well.
Speaker 5: So there's a lot of different ways that the Red
Speaker 5: Sox are playing the long game with this. But like
Speaker 5: you kind of hinted at there before, this team desperately
Speaker 5: needs a spark now. They had a great weekend in
Speaker 5: the Bronx, taking two out of three from the Yankees,
Speaker 5: which I don't think anybody really saw coming, especially with
Speaker 5: the way Friday Night went. But this is a team
Speaker 5: Dan that just this entire season, they've failed to build
Speaker 5: on any momentum that they've been trying to generate here.
Speaker 5: They haven't won three games in a row since the
Speaker 5: end of April. They're trying to do that night.
Speaker 2: With all due respect to the two out of three
Speaker 2: in the Bronx, which was great, don't get me wrong,
Speaker 2: but they didn't face the best Yankee pitchers, at least
Speaker 2: the best starters they avoided just through the luck of
Speaker 2: the draw. You know, the rotations work around, And I
Speaker 2: mean the guy that they that they beat on Saturday night, Yarborough,
Speaker 2: used to be a spot starter and a long reliever
Speaker 2: for Tampa.
Speaker 5: Bay, right, They were very familiar with them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and and he doesn't throw hard enough to break
Speaker 2: a painted glass from what I understand, Rodin Rodin last night.
Speaker 2: I mean he looked unhittable for four innings and then
Speaker 2: they lit him up.
Speaker 1: They did it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, five home runs last night.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but but it was it was the rest of
Speaker 2: the hits as well. I mean, they dominated that game.
Speaker 2: And even when the Yankees got it close and it
Speaker 2: was back to it went from seven three to seven five,
Speaker 2: they popped, you know, four more runs or something, so
Speaker 2: they they looked like a different ball team in New York,
Speaker 2: you know. And it'll be great to have Anthony back.
Speaker 2: Have you seen Anthony play in person yet? Hit a
Speaker 2: home run the other night. I guess it was just
Speaker 2: short of five hundred feet it was. It was Babe
Speaker 2: Ruthiean I guess four hundred ninety seven feet. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Not that I'm comparing him to Babe Roof. I want
Speaker 2: to make clear of that.
Speaker 5: It sounds it sounds like you're saying the red seat
Speaker 5: of Fenway's in trouble.
Speaker 2: It might be if it could be lord to pull
Speaker 2: the ball a little bit. That was direct to do
Speaker 2: a center field.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was like a right center It was a shot.
Speaker 5: I have not seen him in person yet. I'd been
Speaker 5: meaning to get out to Worcester. I've heard great things
Speaker 5: about the ballpark. I have not gotten out there yet,
Speaker 5: but maybe I'll get over to Fenway here in the
Speaker 5: next couple of weeks to see him. But this, this
Speaker 5: kid is he is the most hyped Red Sox prospect
Speaker 5: I since at least Xander broke Bogarts in twenty thirteen
Speaker 5: when he came up at the end of the year.
Speaker 5: I mean, you could probably go further than that, because,
Speaker 5: as you mentioned, number one prospect in all of baseball
Speaker 5: this year. I mean maybe since a guy like like
Speaker 5: no More Garcia Para in the nineties. But Anthony has
Speaker 5: been crushed.
Speaker 2: Couple back even further do it say that he and
Speaker 2: again a little bit of this might be geographically based,
Speaker 2: but I think that he was the most anticipated Red
Speaker 2: Sox rookie. You got to go back to Tony Kennilo
Speaker 2: fourteen sixty four. I mean, because of course, you know,
Speaker 2: Tony c was a Lynn guy, Lynn kid, you know,
Speaker 2: went to Saint Mary's in Lynn and all of that,
Speaker 2: and he was much anticipated and he delivered the hype.
Speaker 2: I mean, he was I think the fastest. He killed
Speaker 2: one hundred home runs, right, hundred home runs, So and
Speaker 2: if it had not been for that that Aaron fastball
Speaker 2: from the Oriole pitcher that night, his career might have
Speaker 2: turned out quite differently. So let's hope that this guy stays.
Speaker 2: He's only twenty one. Is it Florida kid? I think
Speaker 2: I heard him. He grew up in Florida. Yep.
Speaker 5: He was the Florida's Gatorade Player of the Year as
Speaker 5: a senior when he led his high school team to
Speaker 5: back to back state titles and a national title too
Speaker 5: in high school baseball. I guess according to ESPN, which
Speaker 5: I was reading earlier tonight, he was drafted in twenty
Speaker 5: twenty two. He is just skyrot through the miners. He
Speaker 5: reached double A in his first full season in twenty
Speaker 5: twenty three, dominated between double A and triple A last
Speaker 5: year and then this year at Worcester. I mean, he
Speaker 5: had basically just been waiting to get this call up
Speaker 5: here this afternoon, and he was in two eighty eight
Speaker 5: through fifty eight games. Is on base percentage is over
Speaker 5: four to twenty, which is ridiculous. Ten home runs, twenty
Speaker 5: nine RBIs, forty five runs scored and just fifty six
Speaker 5: strikeouts and two hundred and sixty five played appearances while
Speaker 5: drawing fifty one walks, so he could really be a
Speaker 5: breath of fresh air. And if he could live up
Speaker 5: to the hype, or at least, you know, even come
Speaker 5: up to like fifty percent of that hype, would be
Speaker 5: a huge addition for the middle of this Red Sox
Speaker 5: lineup that is completely different than it was on opening day,
Speaker 5: mostly due to injuries, but also to Trevor Story having
Speaker 5: a rough season as well. But when you look at
Speaker 5: what they looked like on opening day, Dan with Alex
Speaker 5: Bregman and Tristan Cassis and Story in the three four
Speaker 5: to five spots, those guys are all you know, two
Speaker 5: of them are out of the lineup right now. Cossus
Speaker 5: has done for the year. Bregman maybe we'll see him,
Speaker 5: you know, sometime this summer, and then Story's been struggling.
Speaker 5: They got him. I think he's back here and forth tonight.
Speaker 5: But they need some pop in the middle of that lineup,
Speaker 5: hoping that Anthony and the rest of the Big three
Speaker 5: with Christian Campbell and Marcella Meyer can provide them that
Speaker 5: jolt that they desperately need here in the middle of
Speaker 5: this lineup.
Speaker 2: I guess Roman Anthony drove himself. I guess he was
Speaker 2: only told sometime in mid afternoon.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was like three, you know.
Speaker 2: I don't know if they held him back, but his
Speaker 2: equipment bag was on the team bus heading to Lehigh Valley,
Speaker 2: and he drove his own car the mass Strudpike.
Speaker 5: Yep, no, you'll get the hill Marrabelli escort tonight.
Speaker 2: No, no, nothing, nothing from the airport. Didn't even get
Speaker 2: close to the airport. But then there was a great
Speaker 2: picture of Tommy mcgloughlin, who's the Red Sox equipment manager,
Speaker 2: helping him carry this stuff in. And you just thought
Speaker 2: to yourself, how hyped are you going to be if
Speaker 2: you're a twenty one year old driving down the mass
Speaker 2: Turnpike seeing Boston appear in the skyline and knowing that
Speaker 2: you're heading to Fenway Park and you're gonna be playing
Speaker 2: in right field.
Speaker 5: It's whoa, Yeah, it's a great story. I mean, I'm
Speaker 5: sure his head is still spinning. He made an error
Speaker 5: tonight out in right field.
Speaker 2: I understand that. Unfortunately yet well, he apparently did not
Speaker 2: have his own glove with him. I think he had
Speaker 2: to borrow someone's glove. Was it a fly ball? I
Speaker 2: didn't see that.
Speaker 5: No, he was it was it was it was a
Speaker 5: ground ball into the outfield. He was approaching and he
Speaker 5: must have taken his eye off. It went right by him.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well that happened. That happened. That happened to
Speaker 2: the bray you a couple of weeks ago, same thing
Speaker 2: and just under the glove. Yeah, and that that's a
Speaker 2: mistake that that occasionally gets made. Hey, Dan Watkins, enjoyed
Speaker 2: talking sports, enjoyed talking news with you, just enjoy talking
Speaker 2: with him. My man, thank you for for pinch hitting
Speaker 2: for me tonight. Anytime called you off the bench and
Speaker 2: you were there and you delivered anytime. Dan, Thanks Dan
Speaker 2: Watkins at WBZ News and Sports. When we get back.
Speaker 2: For those of you like me who are coffee drinkers,
Speaker 2: we're gonna let you know the drinking a couple of
Speaker 2: cough cop a couple of of cups of coffee a
Speaker 2: day actually can be good for you. That's what they
Speaker 2: say now. Who knows what they'll say next year or
Speaker 2: next week, but that's what they're saying now. We're going
Speaker 2: to talk about that right after the break and looking
Speaker 2: forward to this conversation as well. It's been a fun
Speaker 2: Monday night. Here on Nightside, stay with us. We have
Speaker 2: some serious topics once we get past the nine o'clock news.
Speaker 1: You're on Night Side with Dan Ray ONBZ, Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2: Well, for you coffee drinkers, you're gonna like what you're
Speaker 2: about to hear. I think. Joining us is Professor Sarah Madavi.
Speaker 2: She's an adjunct professor of nutritional sciences at the University
Speaker 2: of Toronto. Lead study in the author of this study,
Speaker 2: which essentially says drinking two to four cups of coffee
Speaker 2: a day actually improve your odds at healthy aging. I
Speaker 2: got a lot of questions, Professor Madavi, how are you
Speaker 2: this evening, Welcome to Boston and welcome to New England
Speaker 2: to Nightside. How are you?
Speaker 6: I'm doing well?
Speaker 3: Thank you?
Speaker 6: How are you? I had my two cups of coffee today,
Speaker 6: so I'm feeling great.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm kind of a two cup guy in the morning.
Speaker 2: And I gotta tell you, I never drank coffee until
Speaker 2: I was probably and well I was in middle age.
Speaker 2: I was not a coffee drinker. And then I was
Speaker 2: working as a television reporter. I started working the morning
Speaker 2: shift for eleven years and the only thing I could
Speaker 2: drink to stay awake in the morning was coffee. Everywhere
Speaker 2: you turned, it was coffee. And I guess I'm kind
Speaker 2: of a coffee junkie at this point. I like my
Speaker 2: coffee and it's good for us now, didn't they used
Speaker 2: to say it was bad for you, and now they're
Speaker 2: saying it's good. How do we figure out who's right
Speaker 2: who's wrong?
Speaker 6: You know what? It was such a good question. And
Speaker 6: as I've listened to you and I think about midlife,
Speaker 6: you know, there is a reason why there are so
Speaker 6: many crises affiliated with midlife because there is just so
Speaker 6: much pressure on everybody and our bodies are starting to
Speaker 6: feel not like themselves as we were in our twenties.
Speaker 6: So what we're finding here is kind of interesting now
Speaker 6: that the effect side, meaning like you know, the magnitude
Speaker 6: of contribution is still small. But the fact that we
Speaker 6: looked at these cohorts for you know, over thirty years,
Speaker 6: and we had over fifty thousand individuals that we looked at,
Speaker 6: you know, for this coffee consumption gives us you know, good,
Speaker 6: you know, a good feeling about our finding. But it
Speaker 6: is still small, and I just want to, you know,
Speaker 6: let you know, and the listeners that you know, some
Speaker 6: of those really good habits are still going to be
Speaker 6: your best bet in healthy aging. But if you don't
Speaker 6: drink coffee, it doesn't agree with you. You don't have to start.
Speaker 6: It's just one way to feel good if you do
Speaker 6: consume it. But you don't have to worry as much.
Speaker 6: But certainly you know there is different you know, a
Speaker 6: school oft when it comes to coffee. And the reason
Speaker 6: for that is because this research is still emerging. So
Speaker 6: even for us this is preliminary analyses. Although we're seeing
Speaker 6: some positive associations, perhaps if we look at you know,
Speaker 6: interindividual differences, meaning that the differences between people and how
Speaker 6: coffee is good for one person maybe not so much
Speaker 6: for the other, we might find different results might actually
Speaker 6: be better for some people I'm not so great for others.
Speaker 2: So let me ask you a related question. Okay, and
Speaker 2: if this is not in your area of expertise, not
Speaker 2: a problem. I for years and years and years have
Speaker 2: used the artificial sweetener. I use splendor, and then someone
Speaker 2: said to me, no, you should just use pure sugar cane.
Speaker 2: So I got some Domino pure sugarcane. Does that make
Speaker 2: a huge difference whether you're using an artificial sweetener or
Speaker 2: pure sugarcane, because the pure sugarcane doesn't quite give me
Speaker 2: as much of a pleasant flavors as splendor. I'm not
Speaker 2: doing an ad for splendor here, but was there any
Speaker 2: sort of corollary, uh, you know, consideration that you gave
Speaker 2: to how you sweeten your coffee, whether you drink it
Speaker 2: with cream, without cream, half and half or whatever, you
Speaker 2: know what.
Speaker 6: It's a it's a great question you bring up, and
Speaker 6: it's something that probably a lot of people think about.
Speaker 6: The golden rule is really dependent on how much of
Speaker 6: it you're consuming. So how many cups of coffee a
Speaker 6: day would you say that you consume two?
Speaker 2: Two?
Speaker 1: True?
Speaker 6: And then how much sugar do you say that you
Speaker 6: put in there?
Speaker 2: Four splin put in a total of four splendors, two
Speaker 2: splendors or or two cubes, you know, two sugar cubes
Speaker 2: per per caution.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think you'd be fine either way that amount
Speaker 6: of you know, splendor, which is you know, kind of
Speaker 6: like what we call a sugar alcohol or a regular
Speaker 6: sugar or raw sugar. Any of those are fine because
Speaker 6: they're not really large amounts to make the difference either way. Now,
Speaker 6: if you were a kind of person who's consuming you know,
Speaker 6: maybe four or five cups, or you'd like your two
Speaker 6: kIPS of coffee really sweet, then that would be a different,
Speaker 6: different conversation. And then on top of that, if you
Speaker 6: add that perhaps if you have the risk of diabetes,
Speaker 6: or if you have diabetes, then I would certainly not
Speaker 6: encourage you know, that individual to be consuming the regular
Speaker 6: sugar because that can really spike your blood blood sugars
Speaker 6: and you know, cause some additional problems. But you were
Speaker 6: sorry for health centifers. I think you're good either way.
Speaker 6: And and uh, you know, if you enjoy one over
Speaker 6: the other, I don't think you're going to find harm
Speaker 6: or or really any any specific benefit either one.
Speaker 2: I appreciate that. What about people? Is it better to
Speaker 2: drink it black? If people can can deal with it
Speaker 2: black and with nothing, no half and half, no cream
Speaker 2: or anything like that, no no sugar, no no splendor,
Speaker 2: is it better if you can drink it black?
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's a great question too. So I think we
Speaker 6: have this thought that things that are good for us
Speaker 6: must either feel bad or taste awful. But that doesn't
Speaker 6: have to be there, right, you know. Often we actually
Speaker 6: had a research paper that came out last year, and
Speaker 6: we looked at edition of sugar as well as you know,
Speaker 6: milk or cream when we found and this now this
Speaker 6: was specific to weight loss. So individuals who consumed coffee
Speaker 6: with milk, cream or black they seemed to be able
Speaker 6: to keep weight off easier. Now those who were consuming
Speaker 6: it with sugar, they didn't gain or lose weight. It's
Speaker 6: just that drinking the coffee that they were having was
Speaker 6: not giving them any benefits. Now, I don't know if
Speaker 6: that's the case with healthy aging and the analysis that
Speaker 6: we've done. We haven't looked at the addition of sugar NOLP,
Speaker 6: but I would suspect it might be similar because I yeah,
Speaker 6: by the virtue of you know, if you're drink lot,
Speaker 6: like I said, you know, if you're drinking one or
Speaker 6: two cups and you're not making the super sweet, it
Speaker 6: probably won't make a difference. But if you're starting to
Speaker 6: look at three four cups or you really like it sweet,
Speaker 6: then you know you're getting a lot of extra calories,
Speaker 6: even if it comes from rassia or honey. You know,
Speaker 6: those extra calories unless you're on the treadmill or you know,
Speaker 6: exercising to burn those off, they will turn into express weight,
Speaker 6: which most people don't want.
Speaker 2: You have been a great guest and I really appreciate
Speaker 2: all the information you gave us, not only on your study,
Speaker 2: but you know, ancillary education. Thank you so much, Professor
Speaker 2: Sarah Sarah Maha Madavi. I've hoped got Madavi okay, Adjunct
Speaker 2: Professor Nutritional Services at the University of Toronto, and thank
Speaker 2: you so much for your time time. This was great
Speaker 2: and I think it helped a lot of people.
Speaker 6: Thank you very much.
Speaker 2: Have a good night you too, professor, appreciate it all. Right.
Speaker 2: When we get back, we're going to talk about getting
Speaker 2: answers of a fatal block a bus crash that took
Speaker 2: the life of a five year old boy here in
Speaker 2: Hyde Park about six weeks ago. We're going to be
Speaker 2: talking with an attorney who is involved with the New
Speaker 2: England First Amendment Coalition. He wants more information and he
Speaker 2: feels the public has a right to know. Coming back
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