Speaker 1: You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KF. I
Speaker 1: am six forty and now Handle on the news. Ladies
Speaker 1: and gentlemen, here's not Bill Handle.
Speaker 2: If I am six forty, it's the Bill Handle Show.
Speaker 2: I'm o Kelly in for Bill. And who in the
Speaker 2: hell did I piss off to get this job? What happened?
Speaker 2: What did I do? What did I do wrong? I
Speaker 2: must have like dated somebody's ex girlfriend or something. I
Speaker 2: must have done something wrong, because anyone who knows me
Speaker 2: and Amy King, it's a pleasure to be working with
Speaker 2: the Queen of news, Amy King once again.
Speaker 3: Good morning Amy.
Speaker 4: I've missed you.
Speaker 3: I missed you as well, and you know as well
Speaker 3: as anyone.
Speaker 2: I'm not a morning person in the least. And the
Speaker 2: funny thing about this producer and knows this because we
Speaker 2: had a conversation about this and she was listening to
Speaker 2: my show we host later with Mo Kelly here on
Speaker 2: KFI from seven to ten pm. I had just been
Speaker 2: commenting about how I was not a morning person and
Speaker 2: how literally I said, you couldn't pay me to do
Speaker 2: morning show. My news anchor Mark Ronald was saying, like, hey,
Speaker 2: have you ever filled in for Bill Handle?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah. I filled in for him a number of times, and.
Speaker 2: It's always hell because it means that I have to
Speaker 2: get up at around four in the morning, which I
Speaker 2: did today, and I'm always physically ill when I do
Speaker 2: got up at four. This is after doing my show
Speaker 2: last night from seven to ten. I got about three
Speaker 2: hours sleep, and I did pretty well because I'm a
Speaker 2: person who's going to go to sleep around midnight or later,
Speaker 2: and last night was no exception. For as far as
Speaker 2: I'm concerned, it's the same day, it's still yesterday's it's
Speaker 2: late Wednesday night as far as I'm concerned. Come on,
Speaker 2: but it's nice to be reunited with you, Amy King.
Speaker 2: And let me say good morning to Will Cole Schreiver
Speaker 2: and also Kno, we usually do this thing called Earlier
Speaker 2: with Moe when Bill is in on Thursday. So we're
Speaker 2: just going to do a three hour version of Earlier
Speaker 2: with Moe. Love that Bill Handle edition. And I'm not exaggerating.
Speaker 2: Mornings are difficult for me, even though I've done them
Speaker 2: over my professional career. Going back to college, I even
Speaker 2: scheduled my classes around the idea that I'm not a
Speaker 2: morning person. I don't even drink coffee, and I had
Speaker 2: a brief conversation with Jason or news director. I don't
Speaker 2: drink coffee except for days like these because I just
Speaker 2: do you have some?
Speaker 3: This morning, I had me.
Speaker 2: A cold triple shot brew of something something something from
Speaker 2: the kitchen, okay, and that'll get me through. But I
Speaker 2: don't do caffeine generally. I don't do coffee. I don't
Speaker 2: do any type of tea. And it's something that uh,
Speaker 2: you know, I just haven't ever developed a taste for.
Speaker 3: And the birds chirping this morning, odd sensation? What is
Speaker 3: that noise? It's like, wait, what's going on here? What
Speaker 3: is that sound?
Speaker 5: Well, I'm excited to have you here, and I'm excited
Speaker 5: to be here, honestly. And you know, I listened to
Speaker 5: your show at night and because i'll text you when
Speaker 5: you're talking about certain things, and I did hear you
Speaker 5: talking about not enjoying getting up early.
Speaker 3: So it's kind of funny. Actually, it's almost serendipitous. I
Speaker 3: think that's the word for it. I was thinking, like,
Speaker 3: never would I be in this chair again?
Speaker 2: Literally, and here I am, like four days later in
Speaker 2: this share it was almost two days. I have had
Speaker 2: this long conversation on my show later with Mo Kelly
Speaker 2: that Oscar Oscar Ramira is our operations manager and assistant
Speaker 2: program director, reached out to me and said, hey, Mo,
Speaker 2: I got this idea. I was wondering would you be
Speaker 2: available to fill in? It sounded like it was William
Speaker 2: Shatner is doing Captain Kurtzy. Oh Mo, how about this?
Speaker 2: Do you have any time maybe that you could sit
Speaker 2: in for Bill Handel? And I was thinking, uh, no, Oscar,
Speaker 2: I thought that you knew that I was not a
Speaker 2: morning person. And yeah, when they ask you, when station
Speaker 2: management asked you to do something, it's not a request,
Speaker 2: it's basically saying we need you to do this. We're
Speaker 2: being polite and if you don't do it, you're probably
Speaker 2: gonna be fired. So I said, Okay, I'll get up
Speaker 2: at four in the morning. But but there are some
Speaker 2: great things to this, like I've never had the opportunity
Speaker 2: to work with an I've never been able to work
Speaker 2: with Cono specifically. I don't know what that hat is
Speaker 2: he's wearing. I don't know what that hat, What does
Speaker 2: that hat? What does that say?
Speaker 3: The infamous World Series Champions hughs Nastros No no no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 3: let's get something straight right now.
Speaker 2: This is a Dodger town, and this is a Dodger station,
Speaker 2: and I'm a Dodger fan, and we don't like the
Speaker 2: Houston Astros because you're a bunch of cheaters. That was Peter,
Speaker 2: that was many moons ago.
Speaker 3: No no, no, no, no, no cheaters, Dan cheaters all.
Speaker 2: Wait, and we won without the trash cans a couple
Speaker 2: of years later. So what does that have to do
Speaker 2: with the year that you did cheat and the year
Speaker 2: that you supposedly beat my beloved Los Angeles Dodgers.
Speaker 3: Well, you guys just had to cheat better. Oh you do. Hey,
Speaker 3: King is at your fans.
Speaker 2: We can turn this so off right now, and you
Speaker 2: don't have misunderstanding in the hallway.
Speaker 3: Amy can get him.
Speaker 4: Uh well, I get to work with him every day,
Speaker 4: so you've got a little luck. There are paybacks.
Speaker 3: Oh one thing, mouth mm hmm.
Speaker 5: I know you hate your commute. So the one redeeming
Speaker 5: thing about this time?
Speaker 3: Right old fast? Did you get here?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 3: Put it this way.
Speaker 2: I got up at four o'clock. I lived twenty two
Speaker 2: miles away. I was here by four to forty five.
Speaker 2: After taking a shower, brushing my teeth feeding the dogs,
Speaker 2: shout out to Benson and Riley, and I.
Speaker 3: Did it all and got here at four forty two.
Speaker 4: And during a regular day, how long does it normally
Speaker 4: take you to get here?
Speaker 3: Hour and a half? They know, two hours if it's
Speaker 3: non daylight saving time.
Speaker 4: So you get coffee, you get a short commute, and
Speaker 4: you get to hang out with us. Quit complaining.
Speaker 3: Oh no.
Speaker 2: The part is when I get home, I will take
Speaker 2: a nap, and people say, well, you shouldn't take a nap.
Speaker 3: That ruins the rest of your day. I don't care.
Speaker 2: There's a nap with my name on it at nine thirty,
Speaker 2: right around the second segment of Gary and Shetner.
Speaker 4: Except it's gonna take an hour and a half to
Speaker 4: get home. So that's true.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why I have the triple shop so I
Speaker 2: can stay awake during my commute home.
Speaker 3: But it's okay, it's okay.
Speaker 2: I have the best job in the world, no bones
Speaker 2: about it, best job in the world.
Speaker 3: And with that, let's get to it. Handle on the
Speaker 3: news lead story.
Speaker 2: I don't have any money.
Speaker 3: I can't buy at the Federal Reserve.
Speaker 2: In a closely watched decision yesterday, held the line and
Speaker 2: held interest rates. But we don't know what's going to
Speaker 2: happen in the future. And here's the basic rule. If
Speaker 2: the Fed would have lowered interest rates, it would have
Speaker 2: sent a signal to the markets that the economy was
Speaker 2: slowing down. So it's good news news if you're an investor.
Speaker 2: Good news interest rates are holding depending on how you
Speaker 2: look at it. But in the future, it's looked at
Speaker 2: that there will be some interest rate decreases by the
Speaker 2: Federal Reserve. Now what's holding up this what I'll say
Speaker 2: some of the decision points. It has to do with
Speaker 2: President Trump's teriffs. We don't know how the market's going
Speaker 2: to respond, we don't know how other countries are genuinely
Speaker 2: going to respond. We don't know how long President Trump
Speaker 2: may keep these tariffs in place. And until we start
Speaker 2: seeing some of the results and some of the effects,
Speaker 2: then we don't know what direction our economy is going
Speaker 2: to be. Let's say in three months or six months,
Speaker 2: and then maybe in the next quarter, the Federal Reserve
Speaker 2: will look at this and then come to some other
Speaker 2: decision about where the economy is. But but you could
Speaker 2: also say, Okay, maybe our economy is not as bad
Speaker 2: off as some have said the reason being because interest
Speaker 2: rates have not come down. It's kind of an inverse
Speaker 2: psychology where you bring down the interest rates if the
Speaker 2: economy is slowing down, and if it's doing well, then
Speaker 2: interest rates will usually go up to kind of keep
Speaker 2: the economy under control. But you know, for everyone I
Speaker 2: would say, oh, who's that?
Speaker 3: Who's that?
Speaker 4: That would have been will.
Speaker 3: Oh oh oh will do you do you disagree? There?
Speaker 4: No, he is just clearing his I thought.
Speaker 2: He was trying to send me a message like, no,
Speaker 2: my economy, MO is not exactly all that good right now.
Speaker 2: So let me just quietly and you know, unmistakably disagree
Speaker 2: with you.
Speaker 3: How about that?
Speaker 4: Okay, all right, shut her down. President Trump is set
Speaker 4: to sign an executive order that seeks to eliminate the
Speaker 4: US Department of Education. Remember when he appointed his education secretary,
Speaker 4: said my ultimate goal is to have you be out
Speaker 4: of a job. Because he want to get rid of
Speaker 4: the department. He's expected to sign it today at a
Speaker 4: White House ceremony with several Republican governors and state education
Speaker 4: commissioners on hand. He says he's going to direct Linda
Speaker 4: McMahon to take all necessary steps to facilitate the closure
Speaker 4: of the Department of Education and return education authority to
Speaker 4: the States caveat. He can't do it without Congress.
Speaker 2: This is a hard pill for me to swallow. It's
Speaker 2: only because I'm a child of two educators. Both my
Speaker 2: parents were elementary, middle and high school teachers. I'm always
Speaker 2: going to be on the side of more education, not
Speaker 2: less than When you talk about the Department of Education,
Speaker 2: you're talking about pelgrams, you're talking about federal student aid
Speaker 2: and also special education among other things. But that's part
Speaker 2: of the reason why it's hard for me to accept
Speaker 2: that we would shudder the Department of Education. Now we
Speaker 2: can make the argument that maybe we should better spend
Speaker 2: the money used by the Department of Education, and that's
Speaker 2: where I would prefer a forensic audit as opposed to
Speaker 2: just closing the agency all together.
Speaker 3: But President Trump is President Trump.
Speaker 2: He said that this was something that he was going
Speaker 2: to do, and if you're a supporter of President Trump,
Speaker 2: it was a promise made and it's a promise kept
Speaker 2: by him. That's why you don't lose elections. Then you
Speaker 2: don't have to worry about these things. Green Peace, well,
Speaker 2: they may be in the red going forward. You may
Speaker 2: remember that we had the North Dakota Access pipeline protests
Speaker 2: back in twenty sixteen to twenty seventeen thereabouts. Well in
Speaker 2: North Dakota, jeury has found Greenpeace liable for deformation, ordering
Speaker 2: it to pay more than six hundred and sixty million
Speaker 2: dollars in damages to an oil company for the environmental
Speaker 2: group's role in one of the largest anti fossil fuel
Speaker 2: protests in US history. And if you look at this
Speaker 2: against the backdrop of the larger conversation about what constitutes
Speaker 2: a legal or an illegal protest, it's getting a bit
Speaker 2: murky right now as far as how you can protest,
Speaker 2: whether you are assuming any type of liability for protesting.
Speaker 2: And the lawsuit, which was filed in state court, had
Speaker 2: argued that green Peace was behind quote an unlawful and
Speaker 2: violent scheme to cause financial harm to energy transfer close
Speaker 2: quote green Peace. Obviously they're going to appeal, but it
Speaker 2: also said that it could be forced into bankruptcy because
Speaker 2: of the case. And we know about green Peace, they've
Speaker 2: engaged in more than fifty years of activism, but that
Speaker 2: could all change if this judgment stands. And I remember,
Speaker 2: I know you remember Emmy King reporting on the protests
Speaker 2: and how it seems like yesterday, but it really isn't.
Speaker 2: This is like nine years ago at this point, and
Speaker 2: I wonder what protests are going to look like. And
Speaker 2: I'm not going to confuse that's what's going on with
Speaker 2: the tesla. That's vandalism, that's violence. That's something completely different.
Speaker 2: That's not protests. That's the strung hitting.
Speaker 4: The streets, hitting going out to a location, protestings thing,
Speaker 4: we want this, we want this. Yeah, I don't get
Speaker 4: where they get at six hundred and sixty million dollars.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, I don't know either, but clearly, clearly
Speaker 2: the Energy Transfer was able to demonstrate that they had
Speaker 2: been harmed and could quantify that amount of damage. It
Speaker 2: doesn't mean it's going to hold up under appeal, but
Speaker 2: at least in the meantime, Green Peace is going to
Speaker 2: have to wonder about its future.
Speaker 4: What if you called nine one one and no one answered.
Speaker 4: That happened yesterday. The nine one one system in La
Speaker 4: County went down only for about twenty minutes, but it
Speaker 4: did impact all twenty three stations. Isn't that like your
Speaker 4: biggest fears that you called for help and there's no
Speaker 4: one there.
Speaker 2: Oh, Amy King, let me tell you about living in
Speaker 2: the hood. I'm here to tell you does that happen?
Speaker 2: Does it happen? The question is when does it not happen?
Speaker 2: And I've lived in mostly suburban communities, but I know
Speaker 2: the times that I've had to call nine one one.
Speaker 2: It was hit and miss as to whether anyone would
Speaker 2: show up. There was a song by Public Enemy called
Speaker 2: nine one one is a joke, and it talks about
Speaker 2: the absence of law enforcement and emergency services when it
Speaker 2: comes to certain communities. Get up, get get get down.
Speaker 2: Nine to one one is a joke in your town,
Speaker 2: that's one of the lyrics. So the idea of first
Speaker 2: responders not responding to certain communities, that's not new. What
Speaker 2: is new is the reason behind it. And when you
Speaker 2: think about LA Sheriff's Department, well, I think twenty three
Speaker 2: different stations, and to think that nothing would be available
Speaker 2: to anyone for an extended period of time, that would
Speaker 2: scare me. But the idea of calling nine one and
Speaker 2: no one responding, I can't speak for anyone else. I'm
Speaker 2: here to tell you that is not unusual. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: true story. I believe you Elon Musk has been using
Speaker 2: immigration and claims a voter fraud as a way to
Speaker 2: sell his Social Security administration cuts. And if you didn't know,
Speaker 2: Musk has this idea that immigration or illegal immigration has
Speaker 2: a direct connection to Social Security. He's claimed that undocumented
Speaker 2: immigrants are fraudulently accessing hundreds of billions of dollars worth
Speaker 2: of entitlements, including Social Security, Medicaid, and disability programs.
Speaker 3: Quote this is what Elon Musk had to say. Quote.
Speaker 2: By using entitlements fraud, the Democrats have been able to
Speaker 2: attract and retain vast numbers of illegal immigrants and by
Speaker 2: voters basically bring in ten twenty million people who are
Speaker 2: beholden to the Democrats for government handouts and will vote
Speaker 2: overwhelmingly Democrat, as has been demonstrated in California clothes.
Speaker 1: Quote.
Speaker 2: Here is my issue, in a general sense, with what
Speaker 2: Elon Musk is do. Where all of us, and I
Speaker 2: think all of us would agree that waste, fraud and
Speaker 2: abuse has to stop, has to be eliminated, all that
Speaker 2: has to go. I think we could agree on that.
Speaker 2: We may not agree on the processes involved. This is
Speaker 2: not a forensic audit. This is Elon must saying I
Speaker 2: see this and it's because of that. Well, show us
Speaker 2: the data, show us the proof, be specific, show us
Speaker 2: the line items. Give us more examples than anecdotal thoughts
Speaker 2: about this incident or that incident. We know that he
Speaker 2: has had some issues interpreting social security data, and I
Speaker 2: think all of us are familiar with forensic audits. They
Speaker 2: don't happen in a day. They happen over a period
Speaker 2: of time. And as long as he wants us to
Speaker 2: just take his word for it, then he'll always receive resistance.
Speaker 2: Remember show and tell, well, it requires both. Don't just
Speaker 2: tell us, show us.
Speaker 4: Penn's losing millions for a swimmer. The Trump administration is
Speaker 4: frozen one hundred and seventy five million dollars in federal
Speaker 4: funding to the University of Pennsylvania, citing policies allowing transgender
Speaker 4: athletes to compete in women's sports. And this all really
Speaker 4: centers around Leah Thomas, who is the transgender swimmer who
Speaker 4: has done really well in the women's competition, and it's
Speaker 4: spurred some lawsuits and that kind of stuff. Earlier this month,
Speaker 4: the federal government also suspended four hundred million dollars in
Speaker 4: funding to Columbia University following months of campus protests and
Speaker 4: accusations by Jewish students of anti Semitism.
Speaker 2: I always say, get the easy ones right. I have
Speaker 2: these sayings axioms if you will get the easy ones
Speaker 2: right when it comes to transgender athletes. For me, get
Speaker 2: the easy ones right. Sports at its best is about
Speaker 2: making sure you have an even playing field as far
Speaker 2: as competition. There's a difference between sex and gender. I
Speaker 2: think people conflate them wrongly. Sex is how you're born,
Speaker 2: the chromosomal aspect x X and x y. Gender is
Speaker 2: how we present ourselves or how we choose to live
Speaker 2: in the world. It's relatively easy for me, and I
Speaker 2: don't think it's controversial to say, hey, there are biological
Speaker 2: men who would then have a physical competitive advantage. When
Speaker 2: you're talking about sports it, I would say it defeats
Speaker 2: the purpose of Title nine when you have biologically male
Speaker 2: athletes competing against biologically female athletes, which is different from
Speaker 2: how someone wants to present themselves and live in a
Speaker 2: gender capacity.
Speaker 3: Am I wrong, Amy King? I mean, am I thought?
Speaker 3: I think so?
Speaker 4: I think you know I've thought about this a lot
Speaker 4: because it's been you know, such a point of contention,
Speaker 4: and it's fine. However you choose to live your life,
Speaker 4: that's fine. But like you said, level playing field. So
Speaker 4: if you put somebody, I mean, it's like putting a
Speaker 4: man and a woman in a pool together, and you
Speaker 4: put Michael Phelps in a pool with I can't remember Lindsey,
Speaker 4: some fabulous female swimmer. He's gonna blow her out of
Speaker 4: the water literally every time.
Speaker 1: Hm.
Speaker 4: So have a category maybe, and have a transgender category.
Speaker 3: I think that's the easiest answer. I think that.
Speaker 4: Would be fair for everyone. Then you're competing against people.
Speaker 4: It's a level playing field. Without you're not discriminating against anybody.
Speaker 3: You're not discriminating, and you're not demeaning.
Speaker 4: Exactly because yeah, I mean again, if you want to
Speaker 4: be gender, if that's what you feel, that's okay with me.
Speaker 3: I don't care.
Speaker 2: There's a way that we can have these conversations and
Speaker 2: be respectful at acknowledge some unassailable truths without dehumanizing. Yes, yes,
Speaker 2: And I always say watch your prepositions. Don't just talk
Speaker 2: about a group of people. Talk with them, don't talk
Speaker 2: at them, talk together. If we can do better with
Speaker 2: the debate and dialogue, we can navigate this saying nothing
Speaker 2: of what's going to happen as far as federal funding
Speaker 2: and the different universities.
Speaker 3: I think that's a different discussion.
Speaker 2: But there's a way that we can maneuver this, navigate
Speaker 2: this and get the easy ones right. And by the way,
Speaker 2: Social Security Administration is going to now require in person
Speaker 2: identity checks beginning March thirty first, the end of this month,
Speaker 2: people will no longer be able to verify their identity
Speaker 2: to the Social Security Administration over the phone, and those
Speaker 2: who cannot properly verify their identity over the agencies quote
Speaker 2: unquote my Social Security online service, they'll be required to
Speaker 2: visit an agency field office in person to complete the
Speaker 2: verification process. And this change will apply to the new
Speaker 2: Social Security applicants and existing recipients who want to change
Speaker 2: direct deposit information.
Speaker 3: To me, that's that's a no brainer. Yeah.
Speaker 2: If you can say, well, it's inconvenient or I don't understand,
Speaker 2: it's just a verification identity for benefits.
Speaker 3: I don't have a problem with that.
Speaker 2: I would liking it to let's say, getting an updated passport.
Speaker 2: That there's some things you just need to do in person.
Speaker 2: Some things, yes, you can do online and it shouldn't
Speaker 2: be all that sophisticated. But this is one thing. This
Speaker 2: is not something that I think we need to really
Speaker 2: fight over.
Speaker 3: It's just me. You know what do I say, get
Speaker 3: the easy ones right?
Speaker 4: Boots are back, and so are the attacks on and
Speaker 4: off the battlefield. So, as you've probably heard us talking about,
Speaker 4: Israel has started airstrikes against the Gods Strip again. They
Speaker 4: say that they renewed their attacks because Hamas is just
Speaker 4: refusing to budge when it comes to releasing any more hostages.
Speaker 4: That breaks the two months cease fire. And now Israel
Speaker 4: has sent soldiers back into the Gaza Strip, and that's
Speaker 4: got a lot of people really upset. Protesters are turning
Speaker 4: out and protesting outside Israel's parliament. They say he is
Speaker 4: Netanyahu is prioritizing his political survival over the security of
Speaker 4: his country, the lives of Israeli hostages and of Palestinians
Speaker 4: in Gaza.
Speaker 2: You know, in this thing we call talk radio, we're
Speaker 2: always supposed to have these well formed or even not
Speaker 2: even well formed opinions about everything. And this is one
Speaker 2: of those times where I'm going to readily admit I
Speaker 2: have no idea what the answer is. I don't know
Speaker 2: what the solution is. There is the problem what's going
Speaker 2: on in Gaza right now. And whereas I'm sympathetic to
Speaker 2: those who are supporting Palestine and the two state solution
Speaker 2: and how I don't want innocent Palestinians killed as collateral
Speaker 2: damage in this war, I also understand that hey, we're
Speaker 2: here because of Hamas and what happened on October seventh,
Speaker 2: and there's no clean way to get through this. I
Speaker 2: don't know how the world is going to be able
Speaker 2: to maneuver this Middle East conflict, and we don't know
Speaker 2: whether it's going to further conflagrate is that the right.
Speaker 3: Word, or expand in the region.
Speaker 2: You know, we have the bombings recently by President Trump
Speaker 2: with the Hutis and how that may expand the conflict
Speaker 2: in the region.
Speaker 4: And last night there were projectiles headed to Israel.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yemen.
Speaker 4: Yes, this morning they were coming in from Gaza, but
Speaker 4: last night from Yemen.
Speaker 2: So Amy, I think you make the great points that
Speaker 2: all this is connected on some level. It's not just Gaza.
Speaker 2: It's not just Gaza and Yemen. It's not just Gaza,
Speaker 2: Yemen and Iran. It's not just Gaza Yemen Iran and Israel.
Speaker 2: They're all connect on some levels, So we can't look
Speaker 2: at this in a discrete as an ete separate issue
Speaker 2: one and the same, And I don't know how when
Speaker 2: I say we, it's obviously going to be in the
Speaker 2: United States included, because what Israel does is usually done
Speaker 2: in consultation with the United States, and there is Unfortunately,
Speaker 2: as I say on other issues, it's going to get
Speaker 2: worse before it gets better. And also as we move
Speaker 2: on to the next story, there are some implications as
Speaker 2: far as what may happen in the Ukraine and Russia conflict.
Speaker 2: Ukraine and Russia have agreed in principle to a limited
Speaker 2: ceasefire after President Trump spoke with the country's leaders in
Speaker 2: different conversations this week, and for me, I think everything
Speaker 2: is going to hinge on whether Russian President Putin is
Speaker 2: willing to at least have some sort of good faith
Speaker 2: approach to the ceasefire. It's one thing to agree in
Speaker 2: pres but if you're still bombing infrastructure, then you're not
Speaker 2: exactly showing yourself as someone who's in good faith is
Speaker 2: trying to move toward a ceasefire. I need to see
Speaker 2: if I'm in that negotiation. I need to see Russia
Speaker 2: make some sort of concession. Where you have Ukraine who
Speaker 2: was invaded, you have to have Russia who is not
Speaker 2: trying to see the territory that it has taken in
Speaker 2: this invasion. I would need to see something from Russia,
Speaker 2: some sort of good faith gesture for me to believe
Speaker 2: that the ceasefire or the limited ceasefire of thirty days,
Speaker 2: is actually going to happen. I am more pessimistic than
Speaker 2: optimistic that this cease fire is going to hold, and
Speaker 2: we'll just have, as President Trump will say, we'll see
Speaker 2: what happens. It's the Bill Handle Show. I'm Okelly and
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