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<v Speaker 1>Weird.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back midnight if you wish to Father Malone's weekly

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<v Speaker 2>round Up. I am them alone and with me as always,

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<v Speaker 2>is a yummy girl herself, Miss Ripley. G and say

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<v Speaker 2>hello Ripley, And We've got a very special guest sitting

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<v Speaker 2>in with us this week here on the round Up,

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<v Speaker 2>all the way from the Sunshine Cab Company. Mister HPHP,

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<v Speaker 2>how are you.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm doing well for them alone? How are you today?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm very well listened. There was no round Up last week. Everybody,

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<v Speaker 2>I know everyone was disappointed because I got a shit

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<v Speaker 2>ton of mail asking if I was okay, which is

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<v Speaker 2>actually very heartening, so thank you. Yes, I'm fine. It's

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<v Speaker 2>just that this is a streaming and new release show

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<v Speaker 2>that I'm just doing in tandem with the other show,

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<v Speaker 2>which means I'm covering newer material, which means I don't

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<v Speaker 2>necessarily have an opinion on that material before I come in.

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<v Speaker 2>But I know that this show began with an idea

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<v Speaker 2>toward leaning in the direction of recommending things that are

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<v Speaker 2>good rather than beating up on things that were bad.

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<v Speaker 2>And previous two season, the previous two episodes of The Roundup,

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<v Speaker 2>where I covered Final Destination and Mission Impossible were both

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<v Speaker 2>kinds of slogs for me, and I felt bad slagging

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<v Speaker 2>them off. This past week, I went and saw the

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<v Speaker 2>new Wes Anderson movie and I fucking hated it and

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<v Speaker 2>h and I was just depressed all weekend long, not

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<v Speaker 2>wanting to fucking put more negativity out there. I ended

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<v Speaker 2>up just not putting out an episode. As soon as

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<v Speaker 2>I decided not to, I felt great. And so anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>that's a bad movie. It's a It's a poor man's

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<v Speaker 2>version of the Royal ten and bombs. If that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 2>You'll see it when you When you see the movie,

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<v Speaker 2>you'll understand what I mean. Ultimately, that's it. But this week,

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<v Speaker 2>holy fuck, we have a spectacular entertainment. Even if I'm

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<v Speaker 2>making fun of it. It's so hard to describe. We're

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<v Speaker 2>talking about the very first annual Yummy Awards on nbc HP.

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<v Speaker 2>Where were you when the Yummy Awards first first hit

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<v Speaker 2>the air? Did you have Yummy Awards part every year?

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<v Speaker 2>I did.

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<v Speaker 3>I had a little checklist, Who's gonna win the Yummy

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<v Speaker 3>for the performer whose name is easiest to spell? Or

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<v Speaker 3>the best series about a barbarian and an evil wizard,

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<v Speaker 3>which were both actual Yummy awards that were awarded. Uh,

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<v Speaker 3>this would have been nineteen eighty three. So this this

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<v Speaker 3>was Wheelhouse for us father alone for Saturday morning cartoon enjoyment.

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<v Speaker 3>So I to be honest, I don't remember for seeing this,

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<v Speaker 3>but clearly when I when I looked this up on YouTube,

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<v Speaker 3>the full show, there were a lot of people saying, wow,

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<v Speaker 3>I remember this, and oh I missed it because it

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<v Speaker 3>got preempted by this. That so this was a thing.

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<v Speaker 3>This is a big deal. I it just passed me by.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you have any memory of it?

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely? I remember seeing it when I was a kid,

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<v Speaker 2>and I remember at the time, even knowing full well

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<v Speaker 2>what they were doing that this was not an awards show.

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<v Speaker 2>This was a sham. Was yet another yet another attempt

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<v Speaker 2>to introduce children to their new lineup of Saturday morning

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<v Speaker 2>television series. They did this every year, don't you remember,

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<v Speaker 2>Like every series, every network, every year we would have

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<v Speaker 2>some sort of get to know your new television series special, CBS, NBC, ABC,

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<v Speaker 2>they would all do it. And this was the kids version.

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<v Speaker 2>Because I guess kids today can't remember. I'm sure everyone

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<v Speaker 2>listening to this show is old enough to remember. But

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<v Speaker 2>we used to have a block of children's programming on

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<v Speaker 2>Saturday mornings. That was it for us other than reruns

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<v Speaker 2>after school before regular programming took over and kids were

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<v Speaker 2>banished to the bedroom.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure, and there were a myriad of ways that networks

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<v Speaker 3>would self promote their own programming and their own shows.

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<v Speaker 3>Obviously that were one of the other big examples, which

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<v Speaker 3>we're not going to get into too much, but things

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<v Speaker 3>like Battle of the Network Stars, which is not a

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<v Speaker 3>direct comparison to this sham awards show, but that would

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<v Speaker 3>typically feature the prominent stars of the day, the Happy

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<v Speaker 3>Days team or the Verretta team or what have you.

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<v Speaker 3>But I don't but this particular piece of promotional material

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<v Speaker 3>got by me.

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<v Speaker 2>Mettal The network stars are effectively promotional tools. It's get

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<v Speaker 2>to know your stars of your favorite shows. We've mentioned

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<v Speaker 2>the stars, we mentioned the shows, but at least you're

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<v Speaker 2>getting to see them play tugle war. This this is

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<v Speaker 2>a fake awards show where every nominee is the only

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<v Speaker 2>nominee in a category just for that show. The utter

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<v Speaker 2>insanity of it.

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<v Speaker 3>What's fascinating is when I so let me back up.

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<v Speaker 3>The whole reason behind this becoming unearthed for me was

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<v Speaker 3>that father Malone sent me as he does, as we

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<v Speaker 3>do for each other. We'll send each other little clips,

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<v Speaker 3>little not memes necessarily, but a funny clip from this

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<v Speaker 3>or that show or what have you. And he sent

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<v Speaker 3>me a clip from what I later came to know

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<v Speaker 3>was The Yummy Awards nineteen eighty three, and I said,

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<v Speaker 3>I have to does the full version exist because the

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<v Speaker 3>clip you sent me with so bonkers? And sure enough

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<v Speaker 3>it does. But what I came to learn in my

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<v Speaker 3>research was that this show was produced and directed by

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<v Speaker 3>a guy named Jeff Margolis, who would go on to

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<v Speaker 3>produce and direct dozens of real awards shows and telecasts,

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<v Speaker 3>the American Music Awards, the Oscars, the Country Music Awards,

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<v Speaker 3>you name it. This guy was the producer director of those.

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<v Speaker 3>So this comes with a pedigree, is my point. And

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<v Speaker 3>it's shot like you would expect the Oscars to be shot,

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<v Speaker 3>is it not.

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<v Speaker 2>You can totally believe this is an awards show. As

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<v Speaker 2>I said, I watched most of it even as a

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<v Speaker 2>kid and thought, well, this isn't actually an awards show,

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<v Speaker 2>and like, wait a minute, because it looks and sounds

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<v Speaker 2>there's a red carpet sequence coming in, there's all the

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<v Speaker 2>introductionary stuff. There's songs and dances. It's got it all.

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<v Speaker 2>It's got an audience peopled with terribly scary children in

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<v Speaker 2>tuxedos clapping along as if any of this makes sense.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like a bugsy below version of the Academy Awards

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<v Speaker 3>audience because it's kids. But they're kids in actual like

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<v Speaker 3>formal wear, with nice dresses and tuxedos and white gloves

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<v Speaker 3>and the whole bit. And they're just having a great

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<v Speaker 3>old time in the audience. They're eating it up.

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<v Speaker 2>Now. The host of our show, Star of the Day,

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<v Speaker 2>Star of Silverspoon, Star of the champ, he'll eventually be

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<v Speaker 2>rick here, He's Ricky. Ricky Schroeder got kind of a lisp.

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<v Speaker 3>He does have a lisp, and I was actually struck.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't know that he was from New York natively.

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<v Speaker 3>He's born in Brooklyn. I think he has such a

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<v Speaker 3>thick New York accent that came through while he's talking.

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<v Speaker 3>I had no idea. I thought that he that was

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<v Speaker 3>a put on when he did NYPD Blue, But he

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<v Speaker 3>is actually a native New Yorker. I was surprised by that.

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<v Speaker 2>Right around this time period, I had a friend who

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<v Speaker 2>vacationed in New York with his family and they were

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<v Speaker 2>visiting Saint Patrick's Cathedral. Seated in the pew in front

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<v Speaker 2>of him was Ricky Schroeder, and at one point he

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<v Speaker 2>leaned forward and said, excuse me, are you Ricky Schroeder?

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<v Speaker 2>And Ricky Schroeder leaned back, placed his arms behind his

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<v Speaker 2>head in a superstar move and said, that's my name.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't wear it out. And my friend said, I think

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<v Speaker 2>you're a prick. Oh boy. Okay, so Ricky has given

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<v Speaker 2>out a voice. There's not all ton to this. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to get to each segment. Oh do we

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<v Speaker 2>begin with a first of all? Before we go any further.

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<v Speaker 2>As HB has mentioned, this is on YouTube. Search for

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<v Speaker 2>NBC Saturday Morning Preview the Yummy Awards or Preview Morning

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<v Speaker 2>Preview nineteen eighty three Yummy Awards, either one. You're looking

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<v Speaker 2>at the forty seven forty eight minute version of the show.

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<v Speaker 2>You are going to love it. You're going to be

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<v Speaker 2>baffled by it. Oh my god. It just started auto

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<v Speaker 2>playing on my end and it scared me.

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<v Speaker 3>I will say. The version that I found on YouTube

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<v Speaker 3>was the full forty eight minute version, but the clip itself.

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<v Speaker 3>The video was about an hour and a half. Did

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<v Speaker 3>you find this one? Father alone? The last half of

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<v Speaker 3>this actually more than half, because it's like twice as

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<v Speaker 3>long was they had kept recording. They recorded an episode

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<v Speaker 3>of Saturday Super K. Do you remember that show?

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<v Speaker 2>I remember that's like a like an arcade where children compete, right, No, no.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, no, that's Starcad. You're thinking of Starcad where they're

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<v Speaker 3>playing like Dragon's Lair.

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<v Speaker 2>And oh yeah, that is what I'm thinking of.

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<v Speaker 3>This was called Saturday Super K. This was a block

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<v Speaker 3>of cartoons based on video game characters. So you had

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<v Speaker 3>Cubert had his own cartoon, Kangaroo had their own cartoon.

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<v Speaker 3>The episode on this YouTube clip, which I would encourage

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<v Speaker 3>everybody to seek out, featured Frogger. Froger had his own cartoon, Father,

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<v Speaker 3>Donkey Kong Pitfall, and Donkey Kong Junior.

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<v Speaker 2>Pitfall. Yeah, okay, Pitfall makes sense. It's an adventurous sort

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<v Speaker 2>of video game. By the way, I remember that. Remember

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<v Speaker 2>the commercial for Pitfall with young Jack Black?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, with Pitfall, Harry John by giant scorpion man eating crocodile.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you know Allanalda was a pitch man for Atari

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<v Speaker 3>computers back in the early eighties.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't, but makes sense.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a whole slew of the commercials. You have to

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<v Speaker 3>check him out because he's because Allanalda is naturally kind

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<v Speaker 3>of an inquisitive. He puts on this inquisitive kind of like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>I know this is technology I don't know anything about.

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<v Speaker 3>And the whole point is Tari computers are so easy

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<v Speaker 3>to use. It's like a match made in heave, and

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<v Speaker 3>you should check those out to Alan all the Atari computers.

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<v Speaker 2>Al the four seasons man.

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<v Speaker 3>Indeed, So anyway, I echo your entreaty encourage people go

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<v Speaker 3>seek out the Yummy Awards and watch it, and then

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<v Speaker 3>maybe check out this podcast so you'll know what we're

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<v Speaker 3>talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>Before we do anything. We cut to our song, right,

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<v Speaker 2>This is how our fucking show begins, This interminable fucking

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<v Speaker 2>dirge by the bye by that dude from Fame.

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<v Speaker 3>Crystal Hart Lee Carreri. He was from Fame and he

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<v Speaker 3>did a movie with Tawny Katine called Crystal Heart. Do

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<v Speaker 3>you remember that movie chusing a boy in the boy

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<v Speaker 3>in the bubble situation where he was him Yeah, she.

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<v Speaker 2>Was dancing seductively for him.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he's a dead ringer from MTV v J Mark Goodman,

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<v Speaker 3>remember Mark Goodman.

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<v Speaker 2>Mark Goodman had way more charisma.

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<v Speaker 3>Then, but he looked just like him though.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, because he's got that sort of it all.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the perm again, my god.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but the song he sings, I don't know that.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like everyone's a win. And he goes through all

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<v Speaker 3>of the cartoons. He references Thunder the Barbarian, he references

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<v Speaker 3>Alan Alvin and the Chipmunks and you name it, like

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<v Speaker 3>the Hulk, Spider Man. It's great. It's just great. I

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<v Speaker 3>mean it's terrible.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone's when two nights will celibrate, the one that always

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<v Speaker 1>keeping Stile and Stone a styles bed Rock, pep.

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<v Speaker 2>Way, Miss. You won't believe what They've got a family.

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<v Speaker 2>It's understandable. Like Lee Correr is probably not making a

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<v Speaker 2>ton of money on Fame. They're not really focusing on

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<v Speaker 2>his character that much.

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<v Speaker 3>The TV show was was going and it was popular

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<v Speaker 3>at the time, so it's not like he was.

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<v Speaker 2>There was a touring act. He was probably touring with it, right,

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I didn't know if Fame had like it was

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<v Speaker 3>like the Ice Capades they had a touring version of Fames.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, oh yeah. They came out on stage and

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<v Speaker 2>they performed all their hits, and by that I mean

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<v Speaker 3>Was Irene Kara involved.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I just remember that that dummy character,

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<v Speaker 3>I'd probably do, but I can't think of it.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember him singing little red Corvette and thinking this

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<v Speaker 3>You could have to look this up. He was on

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<v Speaker 2>No, he he was strictly TV show. Lee Carreri is

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<v Speaker 3>Ones looking here. Oh, Debbie Allen was in Fame. I

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<v Speaker 2>Oh oh yeah, she made her bones on that TV

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<v Speaker 2>more than anything, Fame Gonna live forever.

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<v Speaker 3>It's implied that he did some of the other music

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<v Speaker 3>for this show is a little because there's other there's

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<v Speaker 3>other songs that we'll get into, but but this opening

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<v Speaker 3>number is like perfect for the ridiculousness of everything that's

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<v Speaker 3>those old because nowadays the Oscar telecast is rather reserved.

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<v Speaker 3>They don't take a lot of chances with you know,

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<v Speaker 3>singing and dancing numbers.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a wonderful night for Usker User.

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<v Speaker 3>They don't do that stuff anymore, and it's a shame.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you listen to that Bruce Valance podcast by any chance?

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<v Speaker 3>No, I didn't know he had a podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>He has an Oscar podcast where they pick a year

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<v Speaker 2>and then they read the list of nominees and he

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<v Speaker 2>gives his opinion as to why those people were nominated

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<v Speaker 2>and who won and who should have won.

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<v Speaker 3>It's fascinating, That's exactly the word I was going to say.

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<v Speaker 3>That sounds fascinating because he would he was a writer

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<v Speaker 2>For nineteen I think different shows he was a writer

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<v Speaker 2>on it. But so you're not only getting that with

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<v Speaker 2>like hands on he was there, but like even on

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<v Speaker 2>say something like the directors are the ones who nominate

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<v Speaker 2>this guy, these guys and so clearly they were feeling

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<v Speaker 2>this way that year, and you got to remember this

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<v Speaker 2>the time, and it's like a context. Got it. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know where we are next. Do we give

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<v Speaker 3>So it's back up a little litle bit. Now. You

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<v Speaker 3>talked about Ricky Schroeder is the host, and it has

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<v Speaker 3>to be said he he comports himself. Well, he's probably

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<v Speaker 3>like ten or eleven years old at the time, and

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<v Speaker 3>he's fine. The master of ceremonies. You didn't talk about

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<v Speaker 3>the Master of ceremonies father alone, Dwight Schultz, Mad Murdoch

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<v Speaker 3>from these me, sir, I'm sorry, I will say before

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<v Speaker 3>we get to his role in this. I was always

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<v Speaker 3>very unsettled by Murdoch on the A team. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know how you felt about him. There was something so

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<v Speaker 3>legitimately unhinged about his performance. I was always on edge

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<v Speaker 3>because it was never clear like it was mental illness,

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<v Speaker 3>and I always felt uncomfortable with him doing his thing.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. There was something not right about him,

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<v Speaker 3>not in a funny way either.

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<v Speaker 2>Murdoch was my favorite character, and I always felt the

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<v Speaker 2>whole thing was an act that he was fooling everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>So I never felt that there was any sort of

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<v Speaker 2>danger to him in that regard. I never felt like

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<v Speaker 2>he was out of control.

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<v Speaker 3>And I had the opposite. But what you're saying makes sense.

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<v Speaker 3>Obviously my favorite actor, I mean, I was maybe not

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<v Speaker 3>not very interesting in that regard. In my favorite is

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<v Speaker 3>obviously mister T. And later I liked Hannibal because who

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't love George Papard The guy's the man. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 3>Dwight Schultz is the master of ceremonies. They keep referring

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<v Speaker 3>to him as howling mad Murdoch on the A team.

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<v Speaker 3>So he is tag teaming this whole Awards show with

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<v Speaker 3>Ricky Schroeder. But so Lee Correria comes out, does his number. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>the thing of it is the format of this show

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<v Speaker 3>I was not prepared for, is what they end up doing. Essentially,

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<v Speaker 3>whenever there's an award to be presented, they pair up

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<v Speaker 3>an actor from a current NBC sitcom with an oldie

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<v Speaker 3>time children's host or character from like the forties or fifties,

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<v Speaker 3>so you will get some girl from give me a Break.

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<v Speaker 3>And she came out with Gumby or you'll get.

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<v Speaker 2>Like Jim Fields two d Well.

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<v Speaker 3>She came out with the Smurfs, which is weird also,

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<v Speaker 3>but like Tina yothers, Tinay others. They keep calling her Yoders.

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<v Speaker 2>Which I think is the actual pronunciation. By the way,

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<v Speaker 2>is Yoda is.

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<v Speaker 3>The actual Okay, Tina Yolda.

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<v Speaker 2>If she's in the room and they're saying it and

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<v Speaker 2>she's not correcting them, then yes, that's her real name.

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<v Speaker 3>She came out with the actual Bozo the clown, which.

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<v Speaker 2>Was very unfunny.

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<v Speaker 3>That well, that's the what I'm getting at here. Like

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<v Speaker 3>they also, you see there's features for Kukla, Frian and Alie.

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<v Speaker 3>Pinky Lee comes out, Paul Winchell and Jerry Mahoney, the

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<v Speaker 3>Ventriloquist Act come out. It's heartbreaking, father alone, how little

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<v Speaker 3>response these old timers are getting from the audience they.

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<v Speaker 2>Made the audience of toddlers in fucking formal where.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a self fulfilling situation because these kids were not

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<v Speaker 3>even these.

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<v Speaker 2>Kids today, and by kids barely out of Diaper's children.

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<v Speaker 2>The genius of.

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<v Speaker 3>Pinky there's no way they're they're gonna know. Paul Winchell

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<v Speaker 3>and Jerry mahoney. But it's but they just they persist

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<v Speaker 3>in this conceit and it runs through the whole show.

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<v Speaker 3>At one point that this is aside from these awards,

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<v Speaker 3>these fake awards are giving out, there's a tribute to Kukla,

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<v Speaker 3>Frinn and Alie where they come out the stage is there,

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<v Speaker 3>the puppeteer and the they're they're all pain painfully old

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<v Speaker 3>at this point, and it's crickets through this whole fucking thing,

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<v Speaker 3>and eventually the whole point of it is eventually the

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<v Speaker 3>puppeteer part of it. The guy who actually operates the

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<v Speaker 3>puppets comes out and in his finest tuxedo and gives

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<v Speaker 3>Fran a ki And it's supposed to be like like

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<v Speaker 3>anyone who grew up with them, it might be kind

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<v Speaker 3>of a nice thing. These kids didn't grow up with Kuka,

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<v Speaker 3>Fran and Ali. They didn't grow up with Boso the clown.

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<v Speaker 3>They have no idea what they're seeing, what the import

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<v Speaker 3>of that is. It's so you could hear a pin

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<v Speaker 3>drop through this whole sequence. It is so sad. I

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<v Speaker 3>felt so bad for them. Fata alone.

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<v Speaker 2>I will say this, At the time, we as children

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<v Speaker 2>respected our television elders. We knew they were there, even

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<v Speaker 2>if we had no direct contact with them. We all

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<v Speaker 2>knew ed Sullivan. We knew Boso even if we never

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<v Speaker 2>had any, and we had our own boso. We had

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<v Speaker 2>a regional boso. Well I liked better than I liked

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<v Speaker 2>our boso, better than the actual boso. Can I just

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<v Speaker 2>say that? Is that just being me? Is that me

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<v Speaker 2>being provincial?

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<v Speaker 3>Are you talking about boso or WILLI whistle? Do you

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<v Speaker 3>remember Willy whistle?

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<v Speaker 2>I will murder WILLI whistle? What are you talking about?

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<v Speaker 2>Am I talking about Bozo or Willy Whistle? That guy

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<v Speaker 2>can drown and he can whistle for help and no

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<v Speaker 3>I guess we did have a boso, you know what?

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<v Speaker 3>I I think I had heard so, mister, Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 3>think Do you remember Frank av Rusche used to do

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<v Speaker 3>the Great Entertainment, the Tea, the movie, the late night

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<v Speaker 3>movie show on Saturdays. He used to be a boso locally.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you know that?

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<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 3>I think I'd heard that somewhere anyway. As a related note,

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<v Speaker 3>anyone who grew up in bo in the Boston area

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<v Speaker 3>in the late seventies early eighties you'll know who Frank

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<v Speaker 3>av ruche is and you'll also maybe remember Boso the clown.

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<v Speaker 2>At the time, there were lots of regional Bosos. Every

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<v Speaker 2>their own Boso, but ours was the best. Here's the

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<v Speaker 2>real Boso, and he's terrible. I hate him.

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<v Speaker 3>He seemed rather gruff, and like I said, there was

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<v Speaker 3>just for me, there was something personally heartbreaking about these

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<v Speaker 3>old causers coming out and getting zero response. Logically speaking,

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<v Speaker 3>it makes sense because these are these are like seven

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<v Speaker 3>eight year old kids. They're not going to know who

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<v Speaker 3>any of these entertainers are. But it was kind of

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<v Speaker 3>a bummer the whole thing. Honestly, on a high level,

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<v Speaker 3>this whole thing reminds, first of all, you could not

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<v Speaker 3>produce something like this today, not in the same way

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<v Speaker 3>at all, because there's a lack of any sort of

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<v Speaker 3>sarcasm or satire about the whole thing. It's all it's crass, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's presented in a way that the kids will

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<v Speaker 3>enjoy it, and there's no subterfuge for the kids anyway.

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<v Speaker 3>But for me, for us, it's like something it's like

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<v Speaker 3>something out of Smigel's TV Funhouse or something that do

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<v Speaker 3>you know, who Scott Gardner is, father Malone. Have you

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<v Speaker 3>ever heard of Scott Gardner. He's actually a very good

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<v Speaker 3>He's a comedy writer, producer. He's written for Conan, he was.

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<v Speaker 3>He got famous initially because he did a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>funnier die sketches. He did the Tron Holiday Special, which

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<v Speaker 3>is amazing. If have you ever seen it?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, on your recommendation. I saw it.

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<v Speaker 3>It still makes me laugh. He did Michael McDonald's Tricking

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<v Speaker 3>It to the Treat, which I watch every hell he.

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<v Speaker 2>Knew we were going to get back to yacht Rock. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>enough of this follow.

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<v Speaker 3>Sorry anyway, there was there was something so purely bizarre

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<v Speaker 3>about the whole proceeding that that's that's what I'm reminded

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<v Speaker 3>of these great comedy minds of today. But Conan, Yeah, Conan, Conan, Conan, Conan, Conan,

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<v Speaker 3>thank you? Did I say Conan?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes? Yes, Conan O'Brien. I think it's talking about it.

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<v Speaker 3>He swings the sword. No, sorry, sorry, Conan mystica.

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<v Speaker 2>So speaking of barbarians, can we just jump? Can we

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<v Speaker 2>just jump to my favorite part of this? The whole

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<v Speaker 2>reason I start I got reinvigorated here is because okay,

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<v Speaker 2>they do two things here. They'll introduce a cartoon and

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<v Speaker 2>then have a cartoon character animated onto the podium, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's terrible, and it's just it's the worst like slap

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<v Speaker 2>dash version of live action animation mixing. You can possibly

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<v Speaker 2>imagine just the fact that there's nothing, there's no like

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<v Speaker 2>reflection on this highly shiny surface that all of these

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<v Speaker 2>animated characters are standing up. Anyway, never mind that, because

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<v Speaker 2>the other thing that they do is they have costumed

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<v Speaker 2>people come out as the characters. So you're getting like

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<v Speaker 2>sidekick and or theme park versions of superheroes and not superheroes.

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<v Speaker 2>Thunder the Barbarian comes out with his sidekick, Ukule of

418
00:24:51.920 --> 00:24:56.680
<v Speaker 2>the Mock and it's a full costume. Now listen, you

419
00:24:56.960 --> 00:24:59.799
<v Speaker 2>don't laugh at me, pal, I love Oukula the mo.

420
00:25:00.519 --> 00:25:02.960
<v Speaker 3>Well, that was the original clip that you sent me,

421
00:25:03.240 --> 00:25:07.880
<v Speaker 3>was the fundar in Oukla and the I don't remember

422
00:25:07.920 --> 00:25:10.799
<v Speaker 3>who the female character is on the show, but they

423
00:25:10.880 --> 00:25:13.920
<v Speaker 3>come out and they get the award for Best Series

424
00:25:13.960 --> 00:25:18.119
<v Speaker 3>about a Barbarian and an evil wizard, and it's that's

425
00:25:18.200 --> 00:25:21.759
<v Speaker 3>what prompted me to go try to find the full episode.

426
00:25:21.799 --> 00:25:25.200
<v Speaker 3>But it's great because like you're you're kind of under

427
00:25:25.279 --> 00:25:29.519
<v Speaker 3>selling it to me. These aren't like theme park versions

428
00:25:29.559 --> 00:25:33.519
<v Speaker 3>of the costumes. This is like Hollywood Boulevard skivie guy

429
00:25:33.920 --> 00:25:35.720
<v Speaker 3>who wants you to pay him twenty bucks to take

430
00:25:35.759 --> 00:25:39.119
<v Speaker 3>a picture with them. Like the Gumby is terrible.

431
00:25:40.240 --> 00:25:42.559
<v Speaker 2>The Gumby is really bad. And he makes an Eddie

432
00:25:42.640 --> 00:25:44.440
<v Speaker 2>Murphy joke really weirdly.

433
00:25:45.160 --> 00:25:48.279
<v Speaker 3>That was creepy because he comes out and I don't.

434
00:25:48.440 --> 00:25:51.480
<v Speaker 3>I think it's that that girl I referenced from Give

435
00:25:51.519 --> 00:25:54.480
<v Speaker 3>Me a Break. And he comes out and he says,

436
00:25:54.640 --> 00:25:58.079
<v Speaker 3>it's almost like existential. He says, am I really here?

437
00:25:58.759 --> 00:26:02.000
<v Speaker 3>After seeing Eddie Murphy's impression so many times, I couldn't

438
00:26:02.039 --> 00:26:06.559
<v Speaker 3>be sure, And like you get this feeling like companies

439
00:26:06.599 --> 00:26:09.880
<v Speaker 3>like I don't know who I am anymore. It's bizarre.

440
00:26:10.880 --> 00:26:14.640
<v Speaker 2>Well, am, I don't bring up Pokey I clumb. He

441
00:26:14.839 --> 00:26:17.480
<v Speaker 2>is a decent man. He deserves better than this.

442
00:26:18.839 --> 00:26:21.039
<v Speaker 3>I just want to go home. Can I go home?

443
00:26:21.799 --> 00:26:25.119
<v Speaker 3>It is but these costumes like Fred and Fred Flintstone

444
00:26:25.160 --> 00:26:27.240
<v Speaker 3>and Barney Rubble come up to get an award and

445
00:26:27.319 --> 00:26:30.799
<v Speaker 3>they do a little soft shoe routine. But even they,

446
00:26:31.079 --> 00:26:33.720
<v Speaker 3>like Alvin and the Chipmunks, they all just have this

447
00:26:34.559 --> 00:26:38.519
<v Speaker 3>grungy look to the to the costumes. At one point,

448
00:26:38.599 --> 00:26:41.799
<v Speaker 3>Spider Man swings in and it's like Spider Man, but

449
00:26:41.880 --> 00:26:44.079
<v Speaker 3>he's had a few too many Big Max. He doesn't

450
00:26:44.119 --> 00:26:45.799
<v Speaker 3>quite fit into the costume anymore.

451
00:26:46.039 --> 00:26:49.200
<v Speaker 2>And the mask itself is like really pinched in a

452
00:26:49.279 --> 00:26:52.240
<v Speaker 2>weird way, so he just looks like an alien.

453
00:26:53.319 --> 00:26:56.920
<v Speaker 3>It is like anyone who remembers the original Spider Man

454
00:26:57.039 --> 00:27:01.440
<v Speaker 3>television show remembers, like the they didn't figure out how

455
00:27:01.480 --> 00:27:04.240
<v Speaker 3>to do the eye islets for the mask, so they

456
00:27:04.279 --> 00:27:07.960
<v Speaker 3>get stretched out and the islets get very narrow and

457
00:27:08.079 --> 00:27:10.000
<v Speaker 3>it's hard to see how they could even see out

458
00:27:10.039 --> 00:27:11.680
<v Speaker 3>of these things. That's what happens. This guy is a

459
00:27:11.720 --> 00:27:14.519
<v Speaker 3>big guy that they squeezed into a Spider Man outfit.

460
00:27:15.200 --> 00:27:19.680
<v Speaker 3>Everything is kind of not really that well situated on

461
00:27:19.759 --> 00:27:20.079
<v Speaker 3>his head.

462
00:27:20.680 --> 00:27:23.279
<v Speaker 2>But not only Spider Man, but his amazing friends show up,

463
00:27:23.920 --> 00:27:31.279
<v Speaker 2>Firestar and Iceman. Iceman and his semi styrofoam looking it's

464
00:27:31.319 --> 00:27:32.119
<v Speaker 2>like foam rubber.

465
00:27:32.400 --> 00:27:35.640
<v Speaker 3>He squeezed into this costume, and uh, and I don't

466
00:27:35.680 --> 00:27:38.519
<v Speaker 3>I don't know who anyone trying.

467
00:27:39.000 --> 00:27:42.720
<v Speaker 2>At what point did we start trying for superhero costumes?

468
00:27:43.920 --> 00:27:48.119
<v Speaker 2>When did this somebody say not good enough? Was it?

469
00:27:48.200 --> 00:27:48.680
<v Speaker 3>Well? Was it?

470
00:27:48.839 --> 00:27:52.279
<v Speaker 2>Richard Donner with that Superman costume. Was it Tim Burton

471
00:27:52.359 --> 00:27:55.599
<v Speaker 2>with the Batman costume? I think the mock.

472
00:27:57.960 --> 00:28:00.920
<v Speaker 3>It was just so weird because these three, these three

473
00:28:01.000 --> 00:28:05.000
<v Speaker 3>barbarian types come out and Oukla and Thunder just stand

474
00:28:05.079 --> 00:28:06.880
<v Speaker 3>on either side of the stage and they don't say

475
00:28:06.920 --> 00:28:07.319
<v Speaker 3>a word.

476
00:28:07.720 --> 00:28:10.359
<v Speaker 2>They just stare up in But I'd like to point

477
00:28:10.440 --> 00:28:13.680
<v Speaker 2>out that Thunder of the barbarian in the TV show,

478
00:28:13.799 --> 00:28:17.119
<v Speaker 2>in the cartoon, is this buff dude. He's like a

479
00:28:17.279 --> 00:28:20.759
<v Speaker 2>version of ConA. This is not a buffer. They've got

480
00:28:20.839 --> 00:28:24.920
<v Speaker 2>some like reedy looking guy in a bad blonde wig

481
00:28:25.160 --> 00:28:28.319
<v Speaker 2>playing Thunder and he's just staring like a creeper off

482
00:28:28.480 --> 00:28:32.880
<v Speaker 2>off on one side while the while the Sorceress character

483
00:28:33.359 --> 00:28:37.039
<v Speaker 2>is the only one emoting. And this this Eastern Island

484
00:28:37.200 --> 00:28:41.400
<v Speaker 2>head that is Ukula the Mock, just standing sentinel on

485
00:28:41.519 --> 00:28:44.240
<v Speaker 2>her right. Oh my god, Kula the Mock. All right,

486
00:28:44.359 --> 00:28:46.400
<v Speaker 2>you know what I just say, By the way, what

487
00:28:46.519 --> 00:28:50.160
<v Speaker 2>a fucking insane idea for television show for children that

488
00:28:50.680 --> 00:28:53.920
<v Speaker 2>a comet passes too close to the Earth, rips the

489
00:28:54.079 --> 00:28:58.079
<v Speaker 2>Moon out of orbit, which crashes into the Earth, destroys

490
00:28:58.160 --> 00:29:01.279
<v Speaker 2>our atmosphere, throwing us into some post apocalyptic but not

491
00:29:01.559 --> 00:29:07.799
<v Speaker 2>nuclear post apocalyptic world where magic returns and now it's

492
00:29:07.839 --> 00:29:11.519
<v Speaker 2>a cone in the barbarian like dystopian future. And this

493
00:29:11.759 --> 00:29:15.000
<v Speaker 2>is our lead, Thunder, the barbarian with his ripped off

494
00:29:15.160 --> 00:29:19.039
<v Speaker 2>lightsaber blade and his Chewbacca best friend.

495
00:29:19.519 --> 00:29:21.640
<v Speaker 3>That was the story of Thunder, that it was this

496
00:29:22.599 --> 00:29:24.799
<v Speaker 3>post apocalyptic situation where.

497
00:29:24.640 --> 00:29:27.319
<v Speaker 2>The am I the only one who watched this show.

498
00:29:27.359 --> 00:29:28.599
<v Speaker 2>That's the opening scene.

499
00:29:29.359 --> 00:29:31.240
<v Speaker 3>I watched it, but I have no memory of it.

500
00:29:31.319 --> 00:29:34.119
<v Speaker 3>I remember the characters. I remember Ukla and what he

501
00:29:34.200 --> 00:29:39.960
<v Speaker 3>looked like in stuff the mock. You think was Ukla

502
00:29:40.480 --> 00:29:43.480
<v Speaker 3>like a bear cub that was evolved in some way

503
00:29:43.599 --> 00:29:47.160
<v Speaker 3>due to this cataclysmic event? Did he transform into the

504
00:29:47.359 --> 00:29:50.000
<v Speaker 3>mock from some like from like an owl or something?

505
00:29:50.559 --> 00:29:54.960
<v Speaker 2>He might have. He's got many different shades of potentiality

506
00:29:55.039 --> 00:29:59.039
<v Speaker 2>from where he evolved. I think, I think. I think

507
00:29:59.079 --> 00:29:59.839
<v Speaker 2>it's lou Reed.

508
00:30:02.200 --> 00:30:03.559
<v Speaker 3>My name is mock thinks a lot.

509
00:30:03.720 --> 00:30:04.079
<v Speaker 2>That's right.

510
00:30:04.960 --> 00:30:08.640
<v Speaker 3>It looks here. Oh so it says here on the

511
00:30:08.680 --> 00:30:13.240
<v Speaker 3>Wikipedia page that u Oukla is a member of the

512
00:30:13.359 --> 00:30:16.680
<v Speaker 3>mock species, a leonine humanoid with fangs.

513
00:30:16.759 --> 00:30:19.920
<v Speaker 2>And yellow eyes, which makes him a lion of some sort.

514
00:30:20.240 --> 00:30:23.720
<v Speaker 3>Apparently there's a whole there's there's a whole rundown of

515
00:30:24.279 --> 00:30:26.640
<v Speaker 3>mocks and then what they what they do.

516
00:30:27.079 --> 00:30:29.799
<v Speaker 2>Mocks are also a part of the family tree to

517
00:30:29.920 --> 00:30:31.839
<v Speaker 2>be found in The Monster Club.

518
00:30:32.279 --> 00:30:36.519
<v Speaker 3>The Month of the Month, The Vincent Price Movie or.

519
00:30:37.000 --> 00:30:40.799
<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, there's a family tree sequence where Dave Vincent

520
00:30:40.839 --> 00:30:43.519
<v Speaker 2>Price is talking to John Carrodine and showing them and

521
00:30:43.599 --> 00:30:46.000
<v Speaker 2>there's like a Shaddy and a Maddie and a mock

522
00:30:46.400 --> 00:30:47.400
<v Speaker 2>and a shad mock.

523
00:30:48.200 --> 00:30:52.319
<v Speaker 3>Huh no kidding, Yeah, wow, I didn't know that, So UCLA.

524
00:30:52.400 --> 00:30:55.640
<v Speaker 2>The Mock has some historical precedent in a movie from

525
00:30:55.759 --> 00:30:57.599
<v Speaker 2>a couple of years earlier that looks like it was

526
00:30:57.680 --> 00:31:01.279
<v Speaker 2>made in nineteen seventy, The Monster. We're all over the

527
00:31:01.359 --> 00:31:03.200
<v Speaker 2>place here on the round up this week, HB.

528
00:31:03.400 --> 00:31:05.920
<v Speaker 3>We're all over the place. But this kind of begs

529
00:31:05.960 --> 00:31:08.680
<v Speaker 3>that that kind of context shifting because there's a lot

530
00:31:08.759 --> 00:31:12.519
<v Speaker 3>going on. There's so you have all these characters who

531
00:31:12.599 --> 00:31:16.000
<v Speaker 3>kind of like swing in. There's a subplot where Spider

532
00:31:16.079 --> 00:31:18.960
<v Speaker 3>Man can't get into the event for some reason, so

533
00:31:19.039 --> 00:31:21.759
<v Speaker 3>he has to swing around and find his invitation. He

534
00:31:21.839 --> 00:31:26.440
<v Speaker 3>finally gets in there with Fire Star and an iceman and.

535
00:31:27.079 --> 00:31:31.200
<v Speaker 2>Let's talk about the robot Foubie fob the robot from

536
00:31:31.400 --> 00:31:33.119
<v Speaker 2>Silver Spoons, So.

537
00:31:33.160 --> 00:31:36.640
<v Speaker 3>That was from Silver because Ricky Schroeder said something like,

538
00:31:36.720 --> 00:31:39.279
<v Speaker 3>oh from a co star from Silver Spoons. But I

539
00:31:39.359 --> 00:31:42.759
<v Speaker 3>don't remember seeing that fucking robot. I remember. I mean,

540
00:31:42.799 --> 00:31:45.400
<v Speaker 3>everybody remembers the robot from Rocky four. That to me

541
00:31:46.000 --> 00:31:48.680
<v Speaker 3>is the gold standard for eighties robot.

542
00:31:49.039 --> 00:31:51.359
<v Speaker 2>Well that because that looked like an actual robot, like

543
00:31:51.440 --> 00:31:54.279
<v Speaker 2>you figured that might you know, there was probably somebody

544
00:31:54.319 --> 00:31:57.839
<v Speaker 2>operating it, but it might be real. This one, there's

545
00:31:57.880 --> 00:32:01.119
<v Speaker 2>definitely some dickhead off on the with one of those

546
00:32:01.200 --> 00:32:03.920
<v Speaker 2>remote control make it move forward, make it move back,

547
00:32:04.119 --> 00:32:08.440
<v Speaker 2>and then some comedian with a microphone making jokes and

548
00:32:08.559 --> 00:32:09.319
<v Speaker 2>cracking wise.

549
00:32:10.200 --> 00:32:12.839
<v Speaker 3>To be honest, the robot this what was the robot

550
00:32:12.920 --> 00:32:19.039
<v Speaker 3>called Ubi Fubi Poobi. It was scarier than any robot

551
00:32:19.160 --> 00:32:22.880
<v Speaker 3>that I can because it's big. It has these crazy

552
00:32:23.519 --> 00:32:28.880
<v Speaker 3>long distended arms and hands. But the disturbing part is

553
00:32:28.960 --> 00:32:32.559
<v Speaker 3>that what passes for ahead they've put like a Groucho

554
00:32:32.720 --> 00:32:36.039
<v Speaker 3>Marx fake nose and mustache glasses, the.

555
00:32:37.559 --> 00:32:40.640
<v Speaker 2>Schnaz, the Minkman schnaz.

556
00:32:42.000 --> 00:32:44.759
<v Speaker 3>To make probably you know, obviously, to soften the appearance

557
00:32:44.799 --> 00:32:47.160
<v Speaker 3>a little bit. For me, it had the exact opposite.

558
00:32:46.799 --> 00:32:49.000
<v Speaker 2>Of exactly the opposite. It made it a terror.

559
00:32:49.880 --> 00:32:53.039
<v Speaker 3>It made it scary because there was just something very

560
00:32:53.160 --> 00:32:55.880
<v Speaker 3>big and imposing about this. And it comes out and

561
00:32:56.119 --> 00:32:59.359
<v Speaker 3>it tries to shake hands with Ricky Schroeder, but it can't.

562
00:32:59.519 --> 00:33:01.759
<v Speaker 3>You can tell, well they don't. They can't see what's

563
00:33:01.839 --> 00:33:04.400
<v Speaker 3>going on. So the hand goes one place and Ricky

564
00:33:04.440 --> 00:33:06.519
<v Speaker 3>has to hit it, disturbing.

565
00:33:06.519 --> 00:33:09.480
<v Speaker 2>It seems like it means everyone harm, and as soon

566
00:33:09.519 --> 00:33:12.720
<v Speaker 2>as the cameras are off, that rampage is about to begin,

567
00:33:14.079 --> 00:33:15.039
<v Speaker 2>pretty much, and.

568
00:33:15.279 --> 00:33:18.559
<v Speaker 3>The schnaz is a thinly veiled attempt to make you

569
00:33:18.720 --> 00:33:21.400
<v Speaker 3>think that it means you no harm. But in reality,

570
00:33:21.559 --> 00:33:25.000
<v Speaker 3>this thing is gonna like you're dead. This is Ai

571
00:33:25.200 --> 00:33:26.119
<v Speaker 3>gone a muck ah.

572
00:33:26.200 --> 00:33:28.000
<v Speaker 2>This will distract him long enough for me to get

573
00:33:28.039 --> 00:33:32.319
<v Speaker 2>my giant hands on him, and then it curtains for

574
00:33:32.400 --> 00:33:36.319
<v Speaker 2>you kids. Yeah, keep clapping, you child in a tuxedo,

575
00:33:36.400 --> 00:33:36.960
<v Speaker 2>you're next.

576
00:33:41.160 --> 00:33:45.559
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's we're all over the place. But to be fair,

577
00:33:45.720 --> 00:33:47.480
<v Speaker 3>the show is all over the place.

578
00:33:47.599 --> 00:33:49.160
<v Speaker 2>What do you want me to take this thing straight?

579
00:33:49.640 --> 00:33:53.640
<v Speaker 2>Come on now, all I can say is I need

580
00:33:53.799 --> 00:33:57.480
<v Speaker 2>to see. Evidently this is one of those that's out

581
00:33:57.519 --> 00:34:04.200
<v Speaker 2>there but never surfaces there is a Dwight Schultz SNL

582
00:34:04.400 --> 00:34:07.680
<v Speaker 2>audition tape out there, and it is apparently renowned.

583
00:34:08.559 --> 00:34:10.519
<v Speaker 3>I didn't know that he tried out for a SNL.

584
00:34:10.760 --> 00:34:11.280
<v Speaker 3>That's interesting.

585
00:34:11.280 --> 00:34:13.280
<v Speaker 2>You can you can see why now when you watch

586
00:34:13.400 --> 00:34:16.800
<v Speaker 2>this right, he's effectively doing Robin Williams.

587
00:34:17.360 --> 00:34:20.880
<v Speaker 3>He's very quick. I will say that, no kidding, all

588
00:34:20.960 --> 00:34:24.239
<v Speaker 3>kidding aside, he has to come out several times to

589
00:34:24.599 --> 00:34:27.119
<v Speaker 3>do a little bit of shtick. It always has to feel,

590
00:34:27.719 --> 00:34:30.039
<v Speaker 3>like you said of Robin Williams, kind of riffing and

591
00:34:30.159 --> 00:34:33.599
<v Speaker 3>doing his thing. He's very quick, he's very funny. He's

592
00:34:33.760 --> 00:34:37.800
<v Speaker 3>probably the best, the most grounded comedic aspect of this

593
00:34:37.880 --> 00:34:42.000
<v Speaker 3>whole enterprise. And I can only imagine what's going through

594
00:34:42.079 --> 00:34:44.199
<v Speaker 3>his head as he's having to deal with it. By

595
00:34:44.199 --> 00:34:47.079
<v Speaker 3>the way, something I want to ask you a mystery

596
00:34:47.119 --> 00:34:50.159
<v Speaker 3>in my head about this whole thing. So he's there,

597
00:34:50.199 --> 00:34:55.239
<v Speaker 3>he's all over this thing. Yet when they give mister

598
00:34:55.360 --> 00:34:58.920
<v Speaker 3>T his award, because as they say, the Mister T

599
00:34:59.079 --> 00:35:03.760
<v Speaker 3>cartoon debuted that very week, right, which I by the way,

600
00:35:04.000 --> 00:35:06.320
<v Speaker 3>I love the Mister T Cartoon. I don't know why.

601
00:35:06.360 --> 00:35:09.599
<v Speaker 3>I just I watched it a lot, but I need work.

602
00:35:13.480 --> 00:35:19.320
<v Speaker 3>Tracy Morgan did that it was I need work. So

603
00:35:19.519 --> 00:35:22.920
<v Speaker 3>he's presented the award, but mister T is receiving his

604
00:35:23.039 --> 00:35:27.559
<v Speaker 3>award via satellite. He's not actually there to accept the award,

605
00:35:28.400 --> 00:35:30.840
<v Speaker 3>and we're led to believe it's because he's filming the

606
00:35:30.960 --> 00:35:35.639
<v Speaker 3>A Team. Yet Dwight Schultz is there, He's on the

607
00:35:35.760 --> 00:35:36.320
<v Speaker 3>same show.

608
00:35:36.679 --> 00:35:40.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but Dwayn Schultz was probably incarcerated at that time, Murdoch.

609
00:35:40.679 --> 00:35:43.239
<v Speaker 2>They hadn't broken him out of the sanitarium yet in

610
00:35:43.280 --> 00:35:46.000
<v Speaker 2>the episode, so he was able to come off to

611
00:35:46.079 --> 00:35:50.760
<v Speaker 2>the other part of the lot, let's face it. Yeah,

612
00:35:50.840 --> 00:35:55.599
<v Speaker 2>probably to film this. And you know, most likely mister

613
00:35:55.719 --> 00:36:01.440
<v Speaker 2>T was being held captive by George Pepard, drunk and belligerent.

614
00:36:02.320 --> 00:36:04.599
<v Speaker 3>He drank that milk with that was a that was

615
00:36:04.679 --> 00:36:06.239
<v Speaker 3>dosed so he could fly on a plane.

616
00:36:06.760 --> 00:36:07.039
<v Speaker 2>That's it.

617
00:36:09.719 --> 00:36:12.079
<v Speaker 3>By the way, have you ever seen like interviews at

618
00:36:12.119 --> 00:36:15.320
<v Speaker 3>like conventions that Dwight Schultz does about the time working

619
00:36:15.760 --> 00:36:21.079
<v Speaker 3>And he is an amazing interview and he has incredible

620
00:36:21.159 --> 00:36:24.599
<v Speaker 3>stories to tell about George Peppard in particular. I found

621
00:36:24.639 --> 00:36:26.119
<v Speaker 3>them really engaging.

622
00:36:26.440 --> 00:36:30.280
<v Speaker 2>Here's what I'll say, even though the reference is wildly

623
00:36:30.400 --> 00:36:33.719
<v Speaker 2>inappropriate for six year olds in nineteen eighty three, his

624
00:36:33.920 --> 00:36:35.400
<v Speaker 2>impression of.

625
00:36:37.400 --> 00:36:39.480
<v Speaker 3>Oh, it's Sullivan.

626
00:36:39.880 --> 00:36:43.079
<v Speaker 2>His Ed Sullivan impression is the best ice career heard

627
00:36:43.360 --> 00:36:45.639
<v Speaker 2>I've ever heard. It's so nuanced.

628
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<v Speaker 3>Well, it's weird because he just slips into it. He

629
00:36:49.800 --> 00:36:52.760
<v Speaker 3>doesn't like he's in the context of what he's saying.

630
00:36:53.840 --> 00:36:57.119
<v Speaker 3>He just kind of it's almost like there's this transformation

631
00:36:57.519 --> 00:37:00.840
<v Speaker 3>in mid sense of what he's just describing, and he

632
00:37:00.920 --> 00:37:04.280
<v Speaker 3>becomes Ed Sullivan all you know, while you're while right

633
00:37:04.360 --> 00:37:06.440
<v Speaker 3>in front of your eyes. It's bizarre. It's great.

634
00:37:07.039 --> 00:37:10.400
<v Speaker 2>HPU and I do a show over on the Patreon

635
00:37:10.519 --> 00:37:13.199
<v Speaker 2>channel called Cable Box Theater where we look at filmed

636
00:37:13.280 --> 00:37:17.519
<v Speaker 2>theatrical productions for early cable television in the seventies and eighties.

637
00:37:17.599 --> 00:37:19.639
<v Speaker 2>One of my favorites of that time was the production

638
00:37:19.760 --> 00:37:24.000
<v Speaker 2>of Sherlock Holmes, where Sherlock is played by Franklin Jella

639
00:37:24.679 --> 00:37:27.760
<v Speaker 2>and one of the cronies Dwight Schultz, playing an Englishman

640
00:37:28.119 --> 00:37:32.679
<v Speaker 2>very very effectively in that he's Moriarty's he's Moriarty's major

641
00:37:32.760 --> 00:37:33.360
<v Speaker 2>domo in that.

642
00:37:34.320 --> 00:37:36.800
<v Speaker 3>Oh I got to see that who plays Watson?

643
00:37:37.119 --> 00:37:39.559
<v Speaker 2>I frigat no one of any important, no one of

644
00:37:39.639 --> 00:37:42.880
<v Speaker 2>import I guess I can't remember everybody. I can barely

645
00:37:42.920 --> 00:37:47.079
<v Speaker 2>remember Dwight Schulton Franklin Jell, we've been I loved.

646
00:37:47.559 --> 00:37:50.920
<v Speaker 3>Dwight Schultz when he was on Star Trek the Next Generation,

647
00:37:51.000 --> 00:37:55.119
<v Speaker 3>Remember he would played the Reginald Barclay he was. To me,

648
00:37:55.360 --> 00:37:58.159
<v Speaker 3>that was a revelation because I had only ever known

649
00:37:58.239 --> 00:38:03.159
<v Speaker 3>him from the A teaming this crazy Howlin mad Murdoch

650
00:38:03.239 --> 00:38:06.880
<v Speaker 3>to That's such a restrained performance that he gives in

651
00:38:07.559 --> 00:38:11.079
<v Speaker 3>Next Generation, it's you can almost not even believe it's

652
00:38:11.119 --> 00:38:12.880
<v Speaker 3>the same actor. He's so good.

653
00:38:13.199 --> 00:38:15.599
<v Speaker 2>Can I also say about that character, that's a really

654
00:38:15.719 --> 00:38:19.079
<v Speaker 2>important character in the Star Trek universe. It was the

655
00:38:19.159 --> 00:38:21.960
<v Speaker 2>first time we really got somebody who's completely unsure of

656
00:38:22.119 --> 00:38:24.920
<v Speaker 2>themselves in a bit of a coward in a way,

657
00:38:25.440 --> 00:38:30.800
<v Speaker 2>and like and somebody who's not on the bridge basically,

658
00:38:31.199 --> 00:38:32.960
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I just found it fascinating that we

659
00:38:33.239 --> 00:38:35.800
<v Speaker 2>I know who Lieutenant Barclay is, and so to you

660
00:38:36.400 --> 00:38:38.679
<v Speaker 2>because he was never really a major part of the show,

661
00:38:38.760 --> 00:38:41.079
<v Speaker 2>but he's in my mind integral to that show.

662
00:38:41.679 --> 00:38:44.719
<v Speaker 3>He is And didn't although I didn't watch the show,

663
00:38:45.000 --> 00:38:49.000
<v Speaker 3>wasn't he also on Voyager later playing the same character.

664
00:38:49.400 --> 00:38:52.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm pretty sure he I believe he's Yeah, I believe

665
00:38:52.280 --> 00:38:53.679
<v Speaker 2>he was in one of the sort of wrap up

666
00:38:53.719 --> 00:38:55.280
<v Speaker 2>episodes at the end. I don't think he was like

667
00:38:55.440 --> 00:38:58.280
<v Speaker 2>on the Voyager while you're out in space, but yeah.

668
00:38:58.800 --> 00:39:01.480
<v Speaker 3>Not I mean character but obviously thought enough of him

669
00:39:01.719 --> 00:39:04.880
<v Speaker 3>and the character to kind of bring him along, even

670
00:39:04.960 --> 00:39:07.320
<v Speaker 3>for like a quick little cameo. I thought that was

671
00:39:07.840 --> 00:39:09.480
<v Speaker 3>kind of a testament to how good he was in

672
00:39:09.559 --> 00:39:09.840
<v Speaker 3>the part.

673
00:39:10.079 --> 00:39:13.400
<v Speaker 2>Well, Barclay shows up in First Contact, right, he's he

674
00:39:14.679 --> 00:39:21.719
<v Speaker 2>approaches what's his name? Yeah, well yeah, but he can't engage.

675
00:39:21.800 --> 00:39:23.800
<v Speaker 2>He's just sort of like, I'm too much of a

676
00:39:23.880 --> 00:39:24.280
<v Speaker 2>fan boy.

677
00:39:24.440 --> 00:39:27.199
<v Speaker 3>Obviously, Wrath of Kahn is the Star Trek movie, but

678
00:39:27.320 --> 00:39:29.360
<v Speaker 3>next to that, I have to say, like First Contact,

679
00:39:29.880 --> 00:39:33.079
<v Speaker 3>it may be it may be tied for my favorite

680
00:39:33.119 --> 00:39:35.800
<v Speaker 3>Star Trek movie. That movie is so good, directed by

681
00:39:35.840 --> 00:39:37.639
<v Speaker 3>Jonathan Frakes. I love that movie.

682
00:39:38.119 --> 00:39:41.039
<v Speaker 2>I will now watch that over Wrath of Kahn. Actually,

683
00:39:41.440 --> 00:39:41.960
<v Speaker 2>the way that.

684
00:39:42.119 --> 00:39:45.280
<v Speaker 3>They're able to separate them into their own little stories,

685
00:39:45.639 --> 00:39:49.800
<v Speaker 3>but you never feel like it's overcrowded or overstuffed with story.

686
00:39:49.920 --> 00:39:50.199
<v Speaker 2>It all.

687
00:39:51.280 --> 00:39:54.079
<v Speaker 3>It's like a caper movie almost where they have to

688
00:39:54.119 --> 00:39:57.760
<v Speaker 3>go back in time. Time travel figures into it, which

689
00:39:57.800 --> 00:39:59.920
<v Speaker 3>I love. Such a good I have to watch that. Now,

690
00:40:00.119 --> 00:40:00.920
<v Speaker 3>I have to watch that.

691
00:40:01.039 --> 00:40:03.840
<v Speaker 2>Now. Here's the only flaw with the movie. It ends

692
00:40:03.920 --> 00:40:07.440
<v Speaker 2>up being the Board Queen needs a boyfriend. The Board

693
00:40:07.519 --> 00:40:12.480
<v Speaker 2>Queen does not need a fucking boyfriend. Okay, that's bullshit,

694
00:40:13.559 --> 00:40:19.800
<v Speaker 2>but it gave us the Board Queen. That alone cements

695
00:40:19.840 --> 00:40:22.000
<v Speaker 2>of that movie in the Star Trek Pantheon.

696
00:40:22.719 --> 00:40:25.599
<v Speaker 3>Well, it's kind of ananda is that Alfre Woodard is

697
00:40:25.960 --> 00:40:28.400
<v Speaker 3>in a Star Trek movie. It's something that I she

698
00:40:28.639 --> 00:40:31.599
<v Speaker 3>always seemed like much more of, like a prestige actress.

699
00:40:32.039 --> 00:40:34.840
<v Speaker 2>You broke your little ships. I love that fucking movie.

700
00:40:34.920 --> 00:40:36.719
<v Speaker 2>I saw that movie half a dozen times in the theater,

701
00:40:37.000 --> 00:40:39.519
<v Speaker 2>and then one day in front of my theater. What's

702
00:40:39.559 --> 00:40:43.920
<v Speaker 2>his name, super Irish name, Neil McDonough, Lieutenant Hawk.

703
00:40:44.320 --> 00:40:45.760
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yah Hawk.

704
00:40:46.440 --> 00:40:50.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Lieutenant Hawk was outside my theater and I wanted

705
00:40:50.719 --> 00:40:52.559
<v Speaker 2>to talk to him, but he was there with his girlfriend,

706
00:40:52.559 --> 00:40:55.480
<v Speaker 2>who was there at a veterinarian with an emergency with

707
00:40:55.559 --> 00:40:58.000
<v Speaker 2>a pet, And I thought this was probably an inopportune

708
00:40:58.079 --> 00:40:59.719
<v Speaker 2>time to tell him how much I liked him at

709
00:40:59.719 --> 00:41:01.039
<v Speaker 2>Start Track and Ravenous.

710
00:41:02.480 --> 00:41:05.119
<v Speaker 3>Oh he was in Ravenus too. Forgot about that.

711
00:41:06.000 --> 00:41:09.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's the he's the psycho soldier character in that one,

712
00:41:09.599 --> 00:41:12.159
<v Speaker 2>and he's you know, he's he's one of the Helen Commandos,

713
00:41:12.239 --> 00:41:13.079
<v Speaker 2>obviously he's.

714
00:41:13.480 --> 00:41:15.639
<v Speaker 3>That's true with the mutton chops, right, and and the

715
00:41:15.679 --> 00:41:17.039
<v Speaker 3>bowler hat and the shot.

716
00:41:17.400 --> 00:41:20.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, I deserved his own fucking serious. The Helen

717
00:41:20.599 --> 00:41:22.519
<v Speaker 2>Commandos deserved their own serious.

718
00:41:22.800 --> 00:41:24.599
<v Speaker 3>They should have. I mean, they've been kind of dancing

719
00:41:24.639 --> 00:41:26.400
<v Speaker 3>around that they were gonna do that that for a while.

720
00:41:26.679 --> 00:41:29.280
<v Speaker 3>It's not allan commando's but they're gonna do Sergeant Rock.

721
00:41:29.320 --> 00:41:32.239
<v Speaker 3>Remember that with Schwarzenegger and that fell through.

722
00:41:32.480 --> 00:41:34.960
<v Speaker 2>They almost did it again with Daniel Craig like ten

723
00:41:35.000 --> 00:41:35.559
<v Speaker 2>minutes ago.

724
00:41:36.000 --> 00:41:36.719
<v Speaker 3>Sergeant Rock.

725
00:41:37.079 --> 00:41:40.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, really, Sergeant Rock is on the list of DC

726
00:41:40.840 --> 00:41:48.719
<v Speaker 2>movies right now. Huh. Anyway back to uh speaking of Marvel, Yes, speaking.

727
00:41:48.360 --> 00:41:53.039
<v Speaker 3>Of Marvel Marvel, not Marble Marvel. Yeah, this was. I'm

728
00:41:53.079 --> 00:41:56.239
<v Speaker 3>always charmed by anything that takes that any of this

729
00:41:56.440 --> 00:42:02.079
<v Speaker 3>sort of Marvel promotional stuff or just culture that is

730
00:42:02.239 --> 00:42:06.360
<v Speaker 3>from before the MCU, because it's really easy for people

731
00:42:06.440 --> 00:42:11.159
<v Speaker 3>to forget that before Iron Man Marvel, there was nothing

732
00:42:11.239 --> 00:42:15.159
<v Speaker 3>prestigious about a Marvel movie about Marvel. TV shows about

733
00:42:15.159 --> 00:42:16.960
<v Speaker 3>these Marvel characters, which.

734
00:42:16.840 --> 00:42:17.440
<v Speaker 2>Is why you have.

735
00:42:17.639 --> 00:42:21.480
<v Speaker 3>The costume for the Hulk is a goddamn shame in this.

736
00:42:22.199 --> 00:42:27.719
<v Speaker 3>He looks like a child's drawing of the Hulk. He's

737
00:42:27.840 --> 00:42:30.440
<v Speaker 3>all out of proportion. He's got these big shoulders but

738
00:42:30.559 --> 00:42:34.320
<v Speaker 3>little stubby arms, and the expression is just a mask,

739
00:42:34.440 --> 00:42:37.679
<v Speaker 3>so it's unchanging and he kind of like hobbles around

740
00:42:37.760 --> 00:42:39.480
<v Speaker 3>the best that he can. He probably can't see out

741
00:42:39.519 --> 00:42:43.320
<v Speaker 3>of the costume. It's so low rent, but that's what

742
00:42:43.719 --> 00:42:47.039
<v Speaker 3>Marvel was back then. It was not considered a big

743
00:42:47.199 --> 00:42:52.519
<v Speaker 3>prestigious thing. Look at the Roger Korman Fantastic four. Look

744
00:42:52.599 --> 00:42:56.320
<v Speaker 3>at the Captain America movies, which I think you've covered

745
00:42:56.840 --> 00:43:00.360
<v Speaker 3>in the past on the Culture Cast maybe or elsewhere

746
00:43:00.440 --> 00:43:01.239
<v Speaker 3>from alone have you?

747
00:43:01.760 --> 00:43:07.000
<v Speaker 2>Are you talking about the nineteen ninety Captain America with Salinger,

748
00:43:07.519 --> 00:43:08.320
<v Speaker 2>the one that was.

749
00:43:08.599 --> 00:43:10.679
<v Speaker 3>They were going to release in the theater, not the

750
00:43:10.880 --> 00:43:12.840
<v Speaker 3>not the TV show with like reb Brown.

751
00:43:13.039 --> 00:43:13.639
<v Speaker 2>Was that his name?

752
00:43:14.079 --> 00:43:15.599
<v Speaker 3>The football player? Yeah?

753
00:43:15.679 --> 00:43:19.239
<v Speaker 2>No, there were two TV movies in the seventies, and

754
00:43:19.360 --> 00:43:22.000
<v Speaker 2>then in nineteen ninety there was a movie with Darren

755
00:43:22.079 --> 00:43:25.800
<v Speaker 2>McGavin and the grandson of JD. Salinger.

756
00:43:26.840 --> 00:43:28.760
<v Speaker 3>That's the one, and Ned Batty was in it too.

757
00:43:29.079 --> 00:43:33.079
<v Speaker 2>Ned Batty and as as the Red Skull. For some reason,

758
00:43:33.159 --> 00:43:36.719
<v Speaker 2>Red Skull is Italian in it, like he's like a

759
00:43:36.840 --> 00:43:41.199
<v Speaker 2>Mussolini character instead of a Hitler character. Inexplicable. Oh no,

760
00:43:41.280 --> 00:43:43.519
<v Speaker 2>it's not inexplicable. It's because they've got a tax break

761
00:43:43.599 --> 00:43:45.840
<v Speaker 2>to shoot in the Mediterranean, so they're like, well, we'll

762
00:43:45.840 --> 00:43:48.559
<v Speaker 2>just make a Mussolini. I said, who is that actor

763
00:43:49.280 --> 00:43:50.719
<v Speaker 2>I wanted to pump up?

764
00:43:50.800 --> 00:43:51.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, with the Father.

765
00:43:52.559 --> 00:43:59.159
<v Speaker 2>Yes, what is his name? Scott something, Chesterton, Scott Simonson, Scott.

766
00:44:00.079 --> 00:44:01.000
<v Speaker 3>Are you being serious?

767
00:44:01.199 --> 00:44:04.159
<v Speaker 2>No, I don't know what his name is. Scott palland

768
00:44:04.920 --> 00:44:09.480
<v Speaker 2>Scott Pollen, who I remember, as you do in Pump

769
00:44:09.599 --> 00:44:11.800
<v Speaker 2>Up the Volume as a Christian Slater's stent. But I

770
00:44:11.920 --> 00:44:15.000
<v Speaker 2>also remember him in a really good segment of a

771
00:44:15.199 --> 00:44:20.400
<v Speaker 2>horror anthology western called Grim Prairie Tales called One Bullet.

772
00:44:20.519 --> 00:44:22.440
<v Speaker 2>That was the name of his segment. It was really good.

773
00:44:23.239 --> 00:44:24.159
<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, I.

774
00:44:24.199 --> 00:44:26.840
<v Speaker 3>Remember that movie. I don't can't recall much about it,

775
00:44:27.000 --> 00:44:29.360
<v Speaker 3>but yeah, pump up the Volume there is I'm looking

776
00:44:29.440 --> 00:44:29.840
<v Speaker 3>him up here.

777
00:44:30.199 --> 00:44:33.079
<v Speaker 2>I skipped school to go see to see Grim Prairie

778
00:44:33.119 --> 00:44:34.159
<v Speaker 2>Tales in Boston.

779
00:44:34.920 --> 00:44:37.480
<v Speaker 3>It played in the theater. Huh yeah, Oh, I didn't

780
00:44:37.480 --> 00:44:37.639
<v Speaker 3>know that.

781
00:44:37.719 --> 00:44:39.239
<v Speaker 2>It played at the one over by bu.

782
00:44:40.280 --> 00:44:40.440
<v Speaker 4>Oh.

783
00:44:40.559 --> 00:44:42.719
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's why I saw it do the right thing

784
00:44:43.079 --> 00:44:43.400
<v Speaker 3>you saw.

785
00:44:43.519 --> 00:44:45.119
<v Speaker 2>I saw that there as well. But I also saw

786
00:44:45.159 --> 00:44:45.960
<v Speaker 2>that in Sagas.

787
00:44:46.360 --> 00:44:48.480
<v Speaker 3>Really it played wider than that.

788
00:44:49.360 --> 00:44:52.320
<v Speaker 2>General cinema twin in Saga Got It.

789
00:44:52.679 --> 00:44:55.119
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the one year Bu I saw that summer, I

790
00:44:55.119 --> 00:44:57.840
<v Speaker 3>feel like I saw a lot of Cape Fear played there,

791
00:44:58.400 --> 00:44:59.280
<v Speaker 3>a bunch of Wow.

792
00:44:59.639 --> 00:45:02.639
<v Speaker 2>I was already in Los Angeles with Cape Verkuma. Is

793
00:45:02.719 --> 00:45:06.199
<v Speaker 2>that right? M I saw Cape Fair in Los Angeles.

794
00:45:06.480 --> 00:45:10.519
<v Speaker 3>He's going way back, folks, nineteen ninety one. That's crazy.

795
00:45:11.280 --> 00:45:13.760
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, I guess getting back to my original point,

796
00:45:13.960 --> 00:45:18.159
<v Speaker 3>it's amusing to see how it's almost quaint, how low

797
00:45:18.239 --> 00:45:22.000
<v Speaker 3>rent and really cheesy, all this Marvel stuff was knowing

798
00:45:22.840 --> 00:45:27.679
<v Speaker 3>that in what, yeah, wait, what.

799
00:45:27.840 --> 00:45:30.400
<v Speaker 2>In like another twenty five or so years they would

800
00:45:30.440 --> 00:45:30.599
<v Speaker 2>get it.

801
00:45:30.719 --> 00:45:34.199
<v Speaker 3>I was about to say, yeah, but probably the next best,

802
00:45:34.400 --> 00:45:38.559
<v Speaker 3>probably the Spider Man movies was probably the next innovation

803
00:45:38.840 --> 00:45:42.039
<v Speaker 3>in Marvel entertainment right from that, Yeah, I mean, what

804
00:45:42.639 --> 00:45:44.880
<v Speaker 3>was there anything else in the eighties or nineties that.

805
00:45:45.519 --> 00:45:48.519
<v Speaker 2>Well, Howard the Dock obviously was the was the giant

806
00:45:48.559 --> 00:45:51.719
<v Speaker 2>stepped forward for Marvel entertainment. I'm kidding. Blade is when

807
00:45:52.239 --> 00:45:56.639
<v Speaker 2>we finally got a decent Marvel adaptation. But that doesn't act.

808
00:45:56.719 --> 00:45:59.239
<v Speaker 2>I mean, look, it counts obviously he's a superhero, but

809
00:45:59.320 --> 00:46:01.480
<v Speaker 2>it doesn't count in the in the realm of tights

810
00:46:01.559 --> 00:46:02.239
<v Speaker 2>and flights.

811
00:46:03.400 --> 00:46:06.119
<v Speaker 3>Right in my mind, it's like Spider Man was the

812
00:46:06.199 --> 00:46:09.000
<v Speaker 3>thing that jump started it, even though it wasn't really

813
00:46:09.039 --> 00:46:11.679
<v Speaker 3>the MCU at that point, it was still like, Wow,

814
00:46:11.880 --> 00:46:15.039
<v Speaker 3>this is Spider Man done right with a budget, with

815
00:46:15.159 --> 00:46:17.880
<v Speaker 3>a great story and a fantastic director. But this was

816
00:46:18.000 --> 00:46:20.480
<v Speaker 3>very much in the infancy of that which which is

817
00:46:20.559 --> 00:46:21.679
<v Speaker 3>fun to watch that part of it.

818
00:46:23.079 --> 00:46:26.400
<v Speaker 2>Oh the that Hulk though, and that's like the big

819
00:46:26.519 --> 00:46:29.880
<v Speaker 2>fucking finale, Like, let's give a thing to this Misshape.

820
00:46:29.960 --> 00:46:33.079
<v Speaker 2>And it looked flocked to it looked uncomfortable to touch,

821
00:46:35.159 --> 00:46:37.800
<v Speaker 2>flocked like rough to the touch. Yeah, like you know,

822
00:46:37.880 --> 00:46:40.840
<v Speaker 2>you said flocking. They'll do on like models, you know, like,

823
00:46:41.039 --> 00:46:43.559
<v Speaker 2>but we're putting on a putting on some grass here.

824
00:46:43.760 --> 00:46:45.840
<v Speaker 3>Like yeah, I know what you mean, like a bristol.

825
00:46:46.280 --> 00:46:49.480
<v Speaker 2>It's a crafting kind of like technique. It's just ah,

826
00:46:49.920 --> 00:46:51.320
<v Speaker 2>like it gives me the creeps.

827
00:46:52.079 --> 00:46:54.079
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that is the big He crashes out of the

828
00:46:54.119 --> 00:46:56.760
<v Speaker 3>back of the stage, and that's that. You're right, that's it.

829
00:46:56.880 --> 00:46:58.599
<v Speaker 3>That the award shows over at that point.

830
00:46:58.800 --> 00:47:01.559
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, they've given out all the awards. There

831
00:47:01.599 --> 00:47:05.880
<v Speaker 2>were so many surprises, such a beautiful night for Hollywood.

832
00:47:06.280 --> 00:47:08.960
<v Speaker 2>I cannot believe how many people were left out of

833
00:47:09.000 --> 00:47:13.239
<v Speaker 2>the end Memoriam. Did nobody think to mention jabber Jaw

834
00:47:13.519 --> 00:47:15.039
<v Speaker 2>that his family would be watching?

835
00:47:16.239 --> 00:47:18.639
<v Speaker 3>Now? I'm searching through my mind because they covered an

836
00:47:18.639 --> 00:47:23.039
<v Speaker 3>awful lot of old timey entertainers, which they were quite

837
00:47:23.079 --> 00:47:25.239
<v Speaker 3>old at that point. But who who would have been

838
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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, Sherry Lewis and Lamb Chop.

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<v Speaker 2>Milton Burrele and Secret Squirrel together, Yeah, because they could

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<v Speaker 2>have presented it like I'm guessing.

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<v Speaker 3>No, it wouldn't have been.

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<v Speaker 2>Soupy Sales and the Transformers.

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<v Speaker 3>No, it would have to be like somebody like who

844
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<v Speaker 3>was the kid they This kid I thought was like

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<v Speaker 3>a young Adrian's med His name was Glenn Scarpelli.

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<v Speaker 2>Who got that kid? He was in everything in the eighties?

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<v Speaker 3>Man, he was they kept touting, I guess. And Jillian

848
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<v Speaker 3>had a new show called Jennifer Slept Here.

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<v Speaker 2>Remember about a dead actress who appears to this kid

850
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<v Speaker 2>who has moved into her house as a ghost.

851
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<v Speaker 3>Was that the movie? Was that? Or was that the show?

852
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<v Speaker 3>You are you being serious about that?

853
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<v Speaker 2>Yes, that is the premise of that television show.

854
00:48:13.280 --> 00:48:15.800
<v Speaker 3>Well that's the same premise of meat Balls three.

855
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<v Speaker 2>Of course, of course with Angela.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course, No, that was Sally Kellerman was like.

857
00:48:21.719 --> 00:48:26.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, same idea though, yes, suicided actress returns as ghost

858
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<v Speaker 2>to befriend child.

859
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<v Speaker 3>God, you're right. He anyway. Glenn Scarpelli was also I

860
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<v Speaker 3>think he started on One Day at a Time. I

861
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<v Speaker 3>think that was what he was originally on.

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<v Speaker 2>Was he the lead in that movie Playing for Keeps?

863
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<v Speaker 2>Do you remember Playing for Keeps?

864
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<v Speaker 3>I do remember.

865
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<v Speaker 2>It was in a glut of not necessarily hip hop,

866
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<v Speaker 2>but like in that flavor like Beat Street and Breaking

867
00:48:52.920 --> 00:48:56.719
<v Speaker 2>and like that that wave of youth movies we had.

868
00:48:56.760 --> 00:48:57.679
<v Speaker 2>Playing for Keeps.

869
00:48:58.519 --> 00:49:01.440
<v Speaker 3>Were they like a mover, like they had a moving

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<v Speaker 3>company and they had to.

871
00:49:03.719 --> 00:49:07.440
<v Speaker 2>Know they had a resort house in the in the

872
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<v Speaker 2>wilderness that they were going to turn into some big

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<v Speaker 2>money making thing out there. They were going to be

874
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<v Speaker 2>playing for Keeps out there.

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<v Speaker 3>Now I can tell you. Oh no, he was one

876
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<v Speaker 3>One Day at a time. He was on amazing Stories

877
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<v Speaker 3>before that he was not in Playing for Keeps. But

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<v Speaker 3>I know the I know the movie you're talking about.

879
00:49:29.320 --> 00:49:33.639
<v Speaker 2>What episode of Amazing Stories was he on it? Oh?

880
00:49:34.000 --> 00:49:38.360
<v Speaker 3>All right, let me see one episode.

881
00:49:38.960 --> 00:49:42.239
<v Speaker 2>Let's why do I It's name HP.

882
00:49:42.960 --> 00:49:46.199
<v Speaker 3>I know I'm trying to get there one if I

883
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<v Speaker 3>click on Oh here it is mirror, Mirror.

884
00:49:48.920 --> 00:49:50.719
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, the Scorsese episode.

885
00:49:51.000 --> 00:49:54.360
<v Speaker 3>Yes, he plays somebody named Jeffrey Gelb.

886
00:49:54.599 --> 00:49:57.960
<v Speaker 2>Jeffrey gel played by a Scarpelly. A little bit more

887
00:49:58.079 --> 00:50:01.400
<v Speaker 2>casting of Italians in every role by Martin Scorsese. When

888
00:50:01.559 --> 00:50:03.719
<v Speaker 2>when he has a problem if a non Italian plays

889
00:50:03.719 --> 00:50:07.159
<v Speaker 2>an Italian role. Nevertheless, the irishman played by an Italian. Okay,

890
00:50:07.320 --> 00:50:07.920
<v Speaker 2>thanks Martin.

891
00:50:09.079 --> 00:50:12.760
<v Speaker 3>Wow, I didn't know Martin Scorsese did an Amazing Stories.

892
00:50:13.079 --> 00:50:16.920
<v Speaker 2>It's a horror one. It's pretty good. Wow.

893
00:50:17.199 --> 00:50:18.719
<v Speaker 3>Is Sam Waterston in this?

894
00:50:19.119 --> 00:50:20.159
<v Speaker 2>Yes? And he's a dick.

895
00:50:20.440 --> 00:50:24.039
<v Speaker 3>Sam Waterston's where where is he gone? Is he retired

896
00:50:24.079 --> 00:50:24.599
<v Speaker 3>from acting?

897
00:50:25.239 --> 00:50:27.199
<v Speaker 2>Hasn't he prosecuted enough people?

898
00:50:28.719 --> 00:50:31.159
<v Speaker 3>He's done his service to the people of New York

899
00:50:31.239 --> 00:50:32.760
<v Speaker 3>and he's got nothing left to prove.

900
00:50:33.000 --> 00:50:38.760
<v Speaker 2>And remember, robots are strong. Remember that ad for robots say.

901
00:50:39.239 --> 00:50:41.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, it was robot insurance for.

902
00:50:41.440 --> 00:50:45.719
<v Speaker 2>Old Yes, robots, they live on old people's prescription pills

903
00:50:46.159 --> 00:50:48.519
<v Speaker 2>and you can't stop them because robots are strong.

904
00:50:48.760 --> 00:50:51.800
<v Speaker 3>Anyway, I think we've what do we have left to

905
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<v Speaker 3>cover here?

906
00:50:52.239 --> 00:50:54.159
<v Speaker 2>For that? That's it. I think we're done here, buddy.

907
00:50:54.559 --> 00:50:56.039
<v Speaker 3>Oh what a trip we've had though.

908
00:50:56.840 --> 00:50:59.280
<v Speaker 2>That's the yummy awards everyone. Thank you once again for

909
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<v Speaker 2>joining us on The Father Malone's weekly round Up. I'm

910
00:51:02.320 --> 00:51:04.360
<v Speaker 2>glad to be back. I was glad HB was how

911
00:51:04.559 --> 00:51:07.320
<v Speaker 2>happy to I was here to join me in this episode.

912
00:51:07.880 --> 00:51:09.920
<v Speaker 2>I guess rip, you didn't get to pick this week's really,

913
00:51:10.199 --> 00:51:12.920
<v Speaker 2>but that's okay. HP wrote your theme song, so you

914
00:51:13.000 --> 00:51:16.400
<v Speaker 2>know you should just be thankful HP until next time.

915
00:51:16.920 --> 00:51:18.480
<v Speaker 2>Well you won't be back here on the round up,

916
00:51:18.519 --> 00:51:21.440
<v Speaker 2>but until the next few sco fast, where can people

917
00:51:21.519 --> 00:51:23.079
<v Speaker 2>find you if they're looking to hear more of your

918
00:51:23.199 --> 00:51:24.239
<v Speaker 2>mellifluous tones.

919
00:51:25.119 --> 00:51:27.519
<v Speaker 3>Well, well, before I say that, thank you very much

920
00:51:27.599 --> 00:51:30.239
<v Speaker 3>for having me follom alone. I always love doing these

921
00:51:30.280 --> 00:51:32.280
<v Speaker 3>shows with you. This one is I think a little

922
00:51:32.280 --> 00:51:33.920
<v Speaker 3>more fun than than some of the others. It's just

923
00:51:34.280 --> 00:51:36.599
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, just love talking. This is such a

924
00:51:37.639 --> 00:51:40.199
<v Speaker 3>I said to you. Harry Sheer described The Day of

925
00:51:40.199 --> 00:51:44.480
<v Speaker 3>the Clown cried the famously awful Jerry Lewis movie as

926
00:51:44.599 --> 00:51:48.800
<v Speaker 3>a perfect object in its wrong headedness and it's in

927
00:51:48.920 --> 00:51:54.239
<v Speaker 3>its weirdness and bizarre qualities. I really believe this is

928
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<v Speaker 3>also a perfect object in a sense the Yummy Awards.

929
00:51:57.599 --> 00:51:59.480
<v Speaker 3>So I was very happy to be able to do

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00:51:59.599 --> 00:52:01.320
<v Speaker 3>this with you, Father Malone. Thank you so much for

931
00:52:01.320 --> 00:52:04.920
<v Speaker 3>the opportunity. As for where you can find me, you

932
00:52:05.000 --> 00:52:07.320
<v Speaker 3>can find me. I co host the Night Mister Walters

933
00:52:07.400 --> 00:52:11.280
<v Speaker 3>Taxi podcast with my esteemed co host across from me,

934
00:52:11.320 --> 00:52:11.920
<v Speaker 3>father Alone.

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<v Speaker 2>Here that's me.

936
00:52:14.039 --> 00:52:17.599
<v Speaker 3>I host the Noise Junkies music podcast. I also am

937
00:52:17.639 --> 00:52:21.719
<v Speaker 3>an occasional guest on The Culture Cast with Christashu and

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<v Speaker 3>I also have a band camp site hpmusicplace dot bandcamp

939
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<v Speaker 3>dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>As for me, you're hearing the show, join us on Friday,

941
00:52:31.480 --> 00:52:34.440
<v Speaker 2>we're gonna get back into Well it's gonna be Tails

942
00:52:34.480 --> 00:52:36.880
<v Speaker 2>from the Dark Side. I think that's coming Friday, Is

943
00:52:36.960 --> 00:52:40.719
<v Speaker 2>that right? I don't know. I hope so yes, It'll

944
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<v Speaker 2>be testing the dark Side this Friday for Ripley Gene

945
00:52:43.599 --> 00:52:46.639
<v Speaker 2>for HP. I'm Father Malone. Thanks for joining us. I'm

946
00:52:46.639 --> 00:52:49.159
<v Speaker 2>gonna leave you with a little bit from Well, what

947
00:52:49.239 --> 00:52:50.920
<v Speaker 2>have we been listening to? What have we been talking about?

948
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<v Speaker 2>It's gonna be a little bit of yummy. It's gonna

949
00:52:53.000 --> 00:52:53.920
<v Speaker 2>be so yummy.

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00:52:54.360 --> 00:52:57.679
<v Speaker 3>Everyone's a win. One of the great starts of Y eighteen,

951
00:52:58.079 --> 00:53:05.679
<v Speaker 3>Howling Mad Murdock himself, mister Dwight Schelz, the NBC.

952
00:53:05.679 --> 00:53:08.840
<v Speaker 1>ASPCA, which stands for the Academy of Super Programs that

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<v Speaker 1>are Cartoons or Animated.

954
00:53:11.679 --> 00:53:12.599
<v Speaker 2>He's very democratic.

955
00:53:14.000 --> 00:53:20.960
<v Speaker 1>Everybody votes for himself, Chipman, super Chipmunk, Smirts vote for smirts,

956
00:53:21.639 --> 00:53:24.159
<v Speaker 1>nobody votes for the bad guys, and everybody votes for

957
00:53:24.239 --> 00:53:28.760
<v Speaker 1>mister t that's because of a chick except me. I

958
00:53:28.840 --> 00:53:31.079
<v Speaker 1>know he's big, I know he's strong, but I can

959
00:53:31.199 --> 00:53:36.920
<v Speaker 1>run fast for tea so long? And what is how

960
00:53:37.280 --> 00:53:42.079
<v Speaker 1>the NBC yummies are awarded? Now that I've cleared up

961
00:53:42.239 --> 00:53:45.880
<v Speaker 1>that mystery, I am history.

962
00:54:01.000 --> 00:54:21.360
<v Speaker 4>Shot show from show from sho show su