Speaker 1: Stuck at home.
Speaker 2: And alone.
Speaker 1: You'd think I could have some fun on my own,
Speaker 1: but not all I called AF with Cecily and Stephanie.
Speaker 1: What's up, everybody. Welcome to a little show that we
Speaker 1: like to call board AF. We still call it that,
Speaker 1: even though it's been a long time and nobody and
Speaker 1: even though you're.
Speaker 3: Now and don't freak out. I hope you're not freaking out.
Speaker 3: But you're now seeing it. You found you. Congratulations, you
Speaker 3: found it. If you're listening to us on the Rose
Speaker 3: Pricks speed, you see everything else is the same. Our
Speaker 3: song is the same, the thing is the same. But
Speaker 3: you did hard things change is hard.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 3: I get overwhelmed, like I have to plug this into
Speaker 3: what no not doing it? But you did it. Hopefully
Speaker 3: you did it. Some of you didn't do it. But
Speaker 3: we're going to get you. We're going to get you back.
Speaker 1: I have a thing that that I talk about a
Speaker 1: lot on them for crying out loud, but I just
Speaker 1: I can't do any anything that requires like watching a
Speaker 1: YouTube video to tell me how to do it. It's
Speaker 1: just so I just my god. No, I used to
Speaker 1: like years and years ago, when I had a baby,
Speaker 1: when my kids were babies. If you buy a carrier,
Speaker 1: like sometimes you'd buy like a wrap for your baby
Speaker 1: or some kind of like a thing that you strapped
Speaker 1: to your chest and you put the baby on there.
Speaker 1: And so many of them were like just this thing
Speaker 1: of material with rings in it, and it would come
Speaker 1: with a thing that would say here's the video. Some
Speaker 1: of them would come with like a DVD, and I'd
Speaker 1: be like, no, no.
Speaker 3: Same when you're goodly, you just wanted to say, give
Speaker 3: me some You know what's great about that is AI
Speaker 3: because when you put it in now to give you
Speaker 3: the step, but it like puts it all together, and
Speaker 3: it's like, here's what you do, and you don't have
Speaker 3: to watch a video because those videos are so okay,
Speaker 3: here's what you'll get right. I was trying to figure
Speaker 3: out how to do like my eye make. I wanted
Speaker 3: a smoky eye, and I wanted it written out. I
Speaker 3: didn't even want it shown. I just just tell me
Speaker 3: the thing. I don't want to see somebody do it.
Speaker 3: So and then it starts with like super smacky. So
Speaker 3: my misaphoni is always already annoyed, like I'm already triggered,
Speaker 3: so it'll be like someone's already gulfing water, Like you
Speaker 3: can't get through one sentence without like gulfing water. So like,
Speaker 3: welcome back to my channel to date, and I'm like,
Speaker 3: I'm already out. I just want to know how to
Speaker 3: do a smoky eye. I don't want to hear welcome
Speaker 3: back to my channel. I don't want to hear subscribe.
Speaker 3: I don't just just tell me how to do it exactly,
Speaker 3: like really fast, because I have shit to do. Yes,
Speaker 3: maybe that's the ADHD and us. Oh, it's got to
Speaker 3: be now that we're both well, you're newly diagnosed. I
Speaker 3: have known that about myself, but yeah, for sure, I'm yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm out so soon.
Speaker 1: That's like us with my movies.
Speaker 3: It's so true. Well, I'm just like, well that you know,
Speaker 3: that's also what we're into. I'm interested in what this
Speaker 3: YouTube video. But they're like they take so long. There's
Speaker 3: like a weird intro.
Speaker 1: They try to be cute about it, right, they're like
Speaker 1: and then they pat their face so hard.
Speaker 2: I've talked about that.
Speaker 3: They're like first primer, it was like a foundation one
Speaker 3: and they're like, put your.
Speaker 2: Primary you pat it.
Speaker 1: I'm like, stop it. Tell me which color of Charlotte
Speaker 1: Tillsbury to get by the way, I did take your
Speaker 1: advice member. I was like trying to find my foundation
Speaker 1: had been discontinued, yes, by Charlotte, and you were like,
Speaker 1: just get it on eBay, and I was so scared
Speaker 1: because I have I can never make decisions.
Speaker 3: And then I just bought it on eBay and it
Speaker 3: was perfect. It was one hundred percent of it's been discontinued.
Speaker 3: But they're like, yeah, I bought a bunch of it
Speaker 3: for my beauty store. It's it's kind of old, it's expired,
Speaker 3: but it still works. So just shake it really hard,
Speaker 3: you'll be fine.
Speaker 1: And it has been fun.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And it turned so much less expensive. It was
Speaker 3: fifty bucks. It was less than it would have been
Speaker 3: at Charlotte.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So because they and then the thing is it turns
Speaker 3: out like you get the thing you want. And then
Speaker 3: I'm like, it's not even as great as I thought
Speaker 3: it like it was because I couldn't have it right,
Speaker 3: so it disappeared that I thought it.
Speaker 1: Was the best, but it's it's pretty peachy. That's pretty fun, Rumpy,
Speaker 1: I'm still gonna wear it. I found and I found
Speaker 1: a dupe in the meantime, I was like, everybody, just
Speaker 1: calmed down, take a break, take a let's just take
Speaker 1: a break. You are very obsessed with foundation makeup. I
Speaker 1: know because I can't. But just foundation, I'm not even
Speaker 1: like that good. I never even really wore a foundation
Speaker 1: until a couple of years ago. I didn't need it,
Speaker 1: and now I'm having these like spots in the under
Speaker 1: eye circles are really bad. So it's I also need concealer,
Speaker 1: which I haven't been able to find. But do you
Speaker 1: think it's an OCD thing with you? Yes, it has
Speaker 1: to be the right because you I watched you in
Speaker 1: a store try on a lot of foundations that all
Speaker 1: look fine, and you were like, Nope, not it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, it's a it's an oc you're taking.
Speaker 1: Back and you're like so sure that they don't work
Speaker 1: when they.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do.
Speaker 3: I'm just scared of looking too orange or too yellow
Speaker 3: or too white, like I had this one I got
Speaker 3: from It Cosmetics and they had me get Now. You know,
Speaker 3: when you think of me, you think pale, but I'm
Speaker 3: actually darker than I seem. I think I read as
Speaker 3: a pale, gothy person, but I my skin is actually
Speaker 3: kind of olive toned. Believe it or not, it just
Speaker 3: is so people. I was always okay, we're gonna get
Speaker 3: you porcelain fair, and I'm like telling you that's too light.
Speaker 1: So I had that.
Speaker 3: I put it on my face and it kind of
Speaker 3: looked green. Then I go to Reddit and I ask
Speaker 3: Reddit what they said. They say the same thing. You know,
Speaker 3: you just get your backing like, yeah, it is green. Yes,
Speaker 3: so I changed it. But I don't know. It is
Speaker 3: a concept. It must be an OCD. But I don't
Speaker 3: know why because it's not a picture of yourself on Reddit.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 3: I just described it, okay, and then somebody else was like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I look green too. Oh they were saying about themselves,
Speaker 3: they've used that particular color and make certain people look,
Speaker 3: you know, not good.
Speaker 1: Right. In conclusion, I don't know. Maybe Randy knows.
Speaker 2: She's our she's our our therapist, they're a psychologist.
Speaker 1: What is that an OCD? Because I don't think of.
Speaker 3: Myself as a perfectionist. I'm very messy and scattered. It
Speaker 3: probably is the ADHD. It's like some kind of weird
Speaker 3: fucking I don't know. Well, everything on ADHD.
Speaker 1: We can't be just dub my toe. I just dubb
Speaker 1: my toe. I think it's the adhd D. That's OCD.
Speaker 1: That's so ADHD that I stubbed my toe. I'll just
Speaker 1: stub my toe.
Speaker 3: I have to stub my toe seventeen times, So that's
Speaker 3: the OCD.
Speaker 1: I'm going to say. I just curse somebody out in traffic.
Speaker 1: I'm so ADHD. Right, you just said the most racist thing.
Speaker 1: But it's your it's your anxiety. My god, it's yours.
Speaker 1: You're just you can't help. You just have impulse. It's
Speaker 1: an impulse thing.
Speaker 3: I mean, people would argue that, but that is still No,
Speaker 3: we're not those people.
Speaker 1: I was joking. Okay, I want to ask you something.
Speaker 1: This is I have a little surprise for you. I
Speaker 1: know I love other topics, but I want to ask
Speaker 1: you something. It's probably not something that you and I
Speaker 1: should even be weighing in on. Oh we're going to.
Speaker 1: We're going to weigh in on it because it keeps
Speaker 1: coming up. Listen, it's in my algorithm. So now it's
Speaker 1: going to have to be part of your algorithm. Okay,
Speaker 1: and maybe it'll it can be a story for you,
Speaker 1: ohne story.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, oh yeah, Okay, I it's going to be
Speaker 3: bad takes from Cecily. I'm so scared as a theater
Speaker 3: person especially and to my fellow theater people.
Speaker 2: First of all, let's talk about tell tell the people what.
Speaker 1: Kay. So Patty Lapone is come under some fire, some
Speaker 1: some fire yah, because well, and I had to. I
Speaker 1: woke up this morning m hm at a little peek
Speaker 1: behind the curtain what goes on in Stephanie's house. So
Speaker 1: I wake up in the morning. I can't sleep because
Speaker 1: I'm old and my body just wakes me up very early.
Speaker 1: My husband is fine sleeping though, so then I have
Speaker 1: to be quiet, like I can't like, so I lay
Speaker 1: in bed and I like look at my phone and
Speaker 1: I can't play videos loud. So everything that I that
Speaker 1: comes across my feed I have to read the written word.
Speaker 1: I mean, I can't just listen to a story of
Speaker 1: some you know, musical theater person shouting about Patty Lapone.
Speaker 1: I have to go and like read stories about it.
Speaker 1: But I was really, I'm like, I'm hearing this a lot.
Speaker 1: People are very up in arms about Pastial. Maybe a
Speaker 1: backstory on her too. She's a curmudgeon. She is notoriously
Speaker 1: difficult for those who don't know she's a theater legend.
Speaker 1: She's incredible.
Speaker 3: She's an incredible mezzo soprano who is just kind of
Speaker 3: a known the action and she loves it, like that's
Speaker 3: just who she is. She's like a Larry David, but
Speaker 3: with even a little bit more edge. Oh really, yes,
Speaker 3: Like she's angry at the time. She's a little bit mean.
Speaker 3: She does not suffer fools. She's but she's also incredibly respected.
Speaker 3: People don't want to cross her. Like it's she's just
Speaker 3: a major force in the broadway world. She's also incredibly talented.
Speaker 3: So none of this as far as her personality is
Speaker 3: really it's not a surprise. So then okay, so tell
Speaker 3: us what happened.
Speaker 1: So there's another star named Audra McDonald, right, she's from Hamilton.
Speaker 3: I believe, Oh wasn't she in Hamilton? I could be
Speaker 3: wrong about that. Let me look that up because I
Speaker 3: think I've made that mistake before. Okay, so she's a
Speaker 3: black woman. She was also I believe, I want to
Speaker 3: say the soprano. I shouldn't say this, Yeah I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't know from their vocal ranges. She's amazing and
Speaker 3: just just I mean, just to have so you have
Speaker 3: the whole picture. She's more like, yeah, I think, I
Speaker 3: swear to god, she's and she's a big force to
Speaker 3: be wrecking with you. She's she's incredibly talented, but she's
Speaker 3: a very high like operatic voice.
Speaker 1: But you need to know that she's a black woman. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's kind of important to the story, does she not?
Speaker 1: She might not have been in Hamilton? Oh my god. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's see Audrey McDonald. I'll tell you what she was in.
Speaker 1: She is primarily known. She's won six Tonys. She was
Speaker 1: she performed in musicals. She won Tony Awards for Carousel, Masterclass,
Speaker 1: rag Time, A Raisin in the Sun, for the and Bess.
Speaker 2: I don't think she's it's not Hamilton. I have hership
Speaker 2: she was five.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's amazing though, and she's very esteemed. So okay, yeah,
Speaker 3: so you know what, I should probably pull up this
Speaker 3: so we can say our opinion about it. So hold on,
Speaker 3: Pattie on page six still, oh okay.
Speaker 1: Well, it's because you want to get to the the
Speaker 1: what actually happened, because I read the story of what happened.
Speaker 1: So Patty Lapone basically apologized.
Speaker 3: She had a huge apology that it's not good enough
Speaker 3: for most people on threads, they're like, nah, her pr
Speaker 3: people like shut up, what can she do? But what
Speaker 3: happened was and I couldn't get the whole story. I
Speaker 3: had to dig a little bit for what she did.
Speaker 3: She had gone on some kind of she didn't interview, Yeah,
Speaker 3: get an interview and said that she and O is
Speaker 3: Odra Yeah, Audra mcd they had had some running feud
Speaker 3: that Odre was like, I don't know what she's talking about.
Speaker 1: So that was a little bit rude, and who knows
Speaker 1: what was impacting He called her a bit I think,
Speaker 1: because yeah, let's just see exactly what she said, because
Speaker 1: it wasn't great.
Speaker 2: Okay, hold on, let me let me just locate the story.
Speaker 1: This.
Speaker 3: This is a good time while you're locating story to
Speaker 3: tell you that I have a friend in New York
Speaker 3: that loves Patty Lapone so much. He's a musical theater
Speaker 3: guy in New York. He's amazing, and he wrote a
Speaker 3: one man show called I Think Patty Issues. Instead of
Speaker 3: like Daddy Issues, it's Patty Issues. And he did a
Speaker 3: whole thing about her, and she ended up seeing the
Speaker 3: show and loved it.
Speaker 1: Like they became friends through it. But it's pretty I
Speaker 1: think that's pretty funny. Patty issues. Oh that's so interesting.
Speaker 3: I mean, people like she's like, oh yeah, she's like
Speaker 3: she's okay, yeah. No, this is a big story because
Speaker 3: five hundred artists. So here, I'm going to read it
Speaker 3: to you from page six. Okay, first off, when we
Speaker 3: get into it, five hundred Broadway artists formed a united
Speaker 3: Front against Patty Lapone after the actress hurled insults towards
Speaker 3: theater peers Audra McDonald and Keisha Lewis earlier this week. Okay,
Speaker 3: so they wrote her an open letter and reprimanded her
Speaker 3: for being a bully, and they signed it. Five hundred
Speaker 3: people signed this. That is that's a lot. Yeah, and
Speaker 3: it directly it directly addressed her calling Louis a bitch,
Speaker 3: an insulting McDonald as quote, not a friend, saying that
Speaker 3: they were in a feud. Yeah. I really want the
Speaker 3: exact quote from her. So she made says she made
Speaker 3: a deeply inappropriate comment, unacceptable public comments about to a
Speaker 3: Broadway's best whatever.
Speaker 1: So she one of the things, and this is just
Speaker 1: from my memory of laying in bed this morning reading it,
Speaker 1: was that she complained that Kisha Misha Lewis's show, Hell's
Speaker 1: Kitchen was really loud, and she because they were they
Speaker 1: were wearing according.
Speaker 3: They were sharing a wall, and then that I don't
Speaker 3: know who called that a microaggression. I don't know if
Speaker 3: it was Keisha herself that called it that or just
Speaker 3: the internet. That does make a difference to me because
Speaker 3: that kind of I got to push back a little
Speaker 3: on that. I do not think that pat I do
Speaker 3: not like it. I do not like it when like
Speaker 3: Patty maybe a bully in a jerk, seems like she
Speaker 3: kind of is. But does that make her racist? I don't,
Speaker 3: I don't, I don't know, I don't. I had a
Speaker 3: hard time with that.
Speaker 1: You can say that the production is being too loud
Speaker 1: while you're record, while you're doing your thing without it
Speaker 1: being racist, right.
Speaker 3: To me, That's how I honestly feel. This is where
Speaker 3: people will probably push back against me, but that's how
Speaker 3: I feel. Is that a microaggression to say they're being
Speaker 3: loud the whole everybody was being She wasn't like just
Speaker 3: pointing to people.
Speaker 2: But I don't know so.
Speaker 1: Black people felt. I don't know who exactly. I can't
Speaker 1: speak for all black people, but the king you do
Speaker 1: usually that they felt that she was calling black people
Speaker 1: loud in their show was disrespectful in a microaggression. But
Speaker 1: I'm going to agree with you that, like she was
Speaker 1: complaining that it was the show was loud, but and
Speaker 1: they were trying to rehearse next door and it was loud. Yeah,
Speaker 1: But is that also this fault of the show. I
Speaker 1: don't know, for being loud. If it's a loud show,
Speaker 1: I'd like very like they were just like black people
Speaker 1: being loud, you know what I mean. It's a weird
Speaker 1: thing to accuse, you know, like you're being too loud.
Speaker 1: It's like, well that's Eva's self, which is no fine,
Speaker 1: nobody likes that.
Speaker 3: So I get that they were just maybe the other
Speaker 3: Broadway artists are like, you can't treat people. These are
Speaker 3: our fellow we love each other. We're not like the
Speaker 3: Oscar you know, we're the community. Yeah, but they are.
Speaker 3: They're like, you know, a family, and maybe they're just
Speaker 3: tired of it.
Speaker 1: That's what it sounds like to me, because I yeah,
Speaker 1: because I I can see, I can see both sides.
Speaker 1: It's like it is it is a weird thing to
Speaker 1: say to all black casts, like you're being.
Speaker 3: Are they all black. The whole cast is well, then
Speaker 3: I have to cough. Hol Okay, keep going. I'm just
Speaker 3: gonna turn my mic off.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well I'm not sure if it's an a. See
Speaker 1: now here's where I'm just talking out of my ass
Speaker 1: because I don't know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if it is, then that's a little different. And
Speaker 3: I can see.
Speaker 1: How she made she made also just basically said she
Speaker 1: could she called Oudra a bitch or I think when
Speaker 1: she was like saying that, no, she called she called
Speaker 1: Keisha a bitch. But she also basically said that she's
Speaker 1: a much like that the Odra. She kind of just
Speaker 1: put down her career. Yeah, I'm way more famous, Like
Speaker 1: you know, I'm the I'm the one who's done all
Speaker 1: these shows.
Speaker 3: People just are tired of her, I guess yeah, and
Speaker 3: she's been bullying for a long time. But it's sort
Speaker 3: of like you know, they Yeah, they gathered. Now did
Speaker 3: people gather together when mel Gibson did what he did?
Speaker 3: Twenty times?
Speaker 1: Were there? That's five hundred letter?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is the thing.
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 3: You know, you probably got your Seinfelds and a couple
Speaker 3: of people that signed a letter, and it was tough
Speaker 3: to get that letter, you know, to get other people
Speaker 3: like a Clooney to sign it, or a Brad or
Speaker 3: somebody who wasn't you know, So it's just funny, Yeah,
Speaker 3: how we don't do the thing that they do in
Speaker 3: the Tony community, in the Broadway community. So good for them, really,
Speaker 3: And it made her look at herself and whether it
Speaker 3: was meant to be a racial like you know that part.
Speaker 3: I don't just don't think so. But like, either way,
Speaker 3: she was not being very nice.
Speaker 1: Here's some This is from Deadline. It says recently this
Speaker 1: was in the letter Patty Lapone made deeply inappropriate and
Speaker 1: unacceptable public comments about two of Broadway's most respected and
Speaker 1: beloved artists, Keisha Lewis and Audrey MacDonald. The letter states,
Speaker 1: in a published interview with The New Yorker, she referred
Speaker 1: to Kaisha Lewis, a black woman and a forty year
Speaker 1: veteran of the American stage, as a bitch. This language
Speaker 1: is not only degrading and misogynistic, it's a blatant act
Speaker 1: of racialized disrespect. It constitutes bullying, it constitutes harassment. It's
Speaker 1: emblematic of the microaggressions and abuse that people in this
Speaker 1: industry have endured for far too long. I thought it
Speaker 1: about consop but hold on, let me Leah.
Speaker 3: Michelle was called a bitch by many people as well,
Speaker 3: and because she is, she wasn't very kind to people, allegedly,
Speaker 3: and she was very difficult to work with. So I
Speaker 3: don't understand that part. You can say it's still unacceptable
Speaker 3: to call your fellow Broadway stars a bitch. Yeah, that's
Speaker 3: not acceptable adult language. I agree, But like what, I
Speaker 3: don't see where it's a I just don't see the
Speaker 3: someone a bitch is a racial thing.
Speaker 2: At all. Like I just I really don't see it.
Speaker 1: Pat Lapone's comments to The New Yorker stemmed from an
Speaker 1: incident last fall when she and Mia Farrow were starring
Speaker 1: in The Roommates oh Ye, Broadway's theater. The booth abuts
Speaker 1: the Schubert Theater where the Alicia Keys musical Hell's Kitchen plays.
Speaker 1: Lapone complained to the Schubert organization about the loud Hell's
Speaker 1: Kitchen music that could be heard through a shared wall
Speaker 1: during her play. Louis, a Tony winning star of Hell's Kitchen,
Speaker 1: took to Instagram to characterize Lapone's complaints as bullying and
Speaker 1: racially micro.
Speaker 3: See that's to me, that's crazy. To me, that is crazy.
Speaker 3: I'm crazy is not the right word, bless you. That
Speaker 3: is that is outrageous to me. I understand it's annoying
Speaker 3: that Patty was saying that it's too loud, but to
Speaker 3: bring that that just no, Yeah, I feel like they
Speaker 3: have other information on her that I don't know.
Speaker 2: Okay, maybe, but.
Speaker 1: See this is this is going to make me cancel me.
Speaker 1: But what like, let's say I'm watching a movie. Let's
Speaker 1: say I'm in a movie theater and I'm watching like
Speaker 1: something that's really dear to me, which is a slice
Speaker 1: of life, quiet movie, m non action film, just a
Speaker 1: little slice, just an indie just you know. Uh, for instance,
Speaker 1: my old ass I told you to watch, Yes, I
Speaker 1: told you I loved it. I didn't tell me I did.
Speaker 2: I know? You didn't tell me.
Speaker 1: You suggested it as a movie to watch with my
Speaker 1: kids Mother's Day. We watched it, and I loved it
Speaker 1: and I cried same. I'm sold really good. Okay, So
Speaker 1: let's say, let's just say that I'm watching my old
Speaker 1: ass and next door in the very next theater, which
Speaker 1: is all bad.
Speaker 2: Planning, right, Mission impossible.
Speaker 1: Mission impossible is playing in the next and my seats
Speaker 1: are vibrating and it's.
Speaker 3: Really loud, and that has happened. You do sometimes have
Speaker 3: to say, like, but there's really nothing. They're not going
Speaker 3: to turn it down. There's really not much you can do.
Speaker 1: Right, But that's obviously right. Is it bad planning on
Speaker 1: the part of like the theaters theaters, Yes, for sure.
Speaker 1: But she shouldn't call someone a bitch either. That's not okay,
Speaker 1: Like we'll stand up to that. But yeah, that is
Speaker 1: taking it too far. But is it racial if she
Speaker 1: complains to the Schubert and says, listen, this show is
Speaker 1: really loud next door, and I don't know.
Speaker 3: No, I think, well, yeah, I think not. But people
Speaker 3: are there. They can have their own opinions.
Speaker 1: But she says she's she's taking full responsibility, right, So
Speaker 1: is it for us to not to say, hey, you're
Speaker 1: not responsible, don't apologize.
Speaker 2: No, she should apologize, But.
Speaker 1: She sounds like she sounds like for But on the
Speaker 1: other side are people that are like, it's very entertaining
Speaker 1: that she's always kind of been this. Yes, Pattie Lapone
Speaker 1: has been like she's like Paul Giamati always plays like
Speaker 1: she's curmudgeon.
Speaker 3: She's like but she has the talent to back it up.
Speaker 3: And I'm sure she's no fun I mean, like, I'm
Speaker 3: sure she's.
Speaker 1: Been a nightmare for people, like no question, but I
Speaker 1: just still don't think just that's shit. I think that's
Speaker 1: really funny though. There's something funny about taking the side
Speaker 1: of like you're like, yeah, I mean, I'm sure she's
Speaker 1: just an absolute nightmare, but like she can be that
Speaker 1: because she know.
Speaker 3: I was writing an article today actually for my upworthy job,
Speaker 3: you know, and I was writing about mesophonia. And I
Speaker 3: asked if I could write for my own perspective and
Speaker 3: they were like, yeah, go for it on this one. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and then put in stuff that you can explain what
Speaker 3: it is and all that, and so I said, and
Speaker 3: the thing I was like, yeah, these are the things
Speaker 3: that like I was like, it doesn't just bother me,
Speaker 3: like it enrages me. Things like a gentle golf clap
Speaker 3: on a television show and like the slight crushing of
Speaker 3: a water plastic water bottle. And I named all the things,
Speaker 3: and I said, I always thought it was just I
Speaker 3: was just like your run of the mill Q curmudgeonly,
Speaker 3: like curmudgeonly jerk. And then I just wrote jury's still out,
Speaker 3: like I'm not even commenting on that. But then I
Speaker 3: talk about how I discovered that it's a real disorder.
Speaker 3: I feel like I have every disorder I don't. I
Speaker 3: swear to God, there's nothing I don't have. And I
Speaker 3: didn't used to be that person that thought they were everything.
Speaker 3: But I have mesophonia for sure, I have slight face blindness.
Speaker 3: I've been diagnosed with ADHD. I have anxiety. Obviously, I'm
Speaker 3: depressed all the time. So I got that one. Hm,
Speaker 3: what don't I oh, I have since Synastasia. Remember, I
Speaker 3: try to make you talk about that. I've always had
Speaker 3: that where I can, I can like taste colors. Don't
Speaker 3: worry about it. I'm just some sort of genius. But
Speaker 3: I do have that.
Speaker 1: I really have all these weird so and it all
Speaker 1: comes down to the brain. So you can taste colors, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like I have this weird thing where like certain things
Speaker 1: are color coded for me in a way that most
Speaker 1: people don't have that. So like when I think of
Speaker 1: a day of the week before, like if it's Monday,
Speaker 1: it's just the whole day to me?
Speaker 3: Is this like salmon pink? Don't know why and it's
Speaker 3: always been that way. And Fridays are purple. You don't
Speaker 3: have that, No, And then sometimes like yellow I'm or
Speaker 3: if I'm eating or if I see the color yellow,
Speaker 3: it tastes I can taste apple juice. It's like a
Speaker 3: neural thing where I just all of a sudden can
Speaker 3: taste the I don't.
Speaker 1: Know how to explain it, but it's a real thing.
Speaker 1: I wrote about that too, But I feel like my
Speaker 1: editor's starting to be like, okay, but what else, Like
Speaker 1: you have all these things, weird stories, and it's just like, oh,
Speaker 1: you have that one. Okay, well, I guess put a
Speaker 1: personal thing on that one. That's funny. Starting to look
Speaker 1: like it's crazy. But I really do have these things.
Speaker 1: But misiphonia is one of them. And I thought of
Speaker 1: it just now because the Paul Giamatti curmudgeon thing. Well,
Speaker 1: it doesn't mean you're not crazy. I'm definitely crazy. My
Speaker 1: brain is definitely for real neurodivergence for sure. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean it's hard, we're all on a whatever spectrum, but yeah,
Speaker 1: mine is a little nuts. The fact that the fourth
Speaker 1: of July like causes me a panic attack for a
Speaker 1: month is not neurotypical. No, it's not. Oh, yeah, I agree.
Speaker 1: I'm going to agree with you there.
Speaker 3: Oh you know who else isn't neurotypical? Who was a
Speaker 3: little gentleman by the name of Well, his stage name
Speaker 3: was pee Wee Herman.
Speaker 1: Okay, I swear to it. It is Well. I was
Speaker 1: going to say, this is a great we have a
Speaker 1: great segue. Yes, and also, but you know, you know
Speaker 1: what's also a good segue is the Freak and Patty
Speaker 1: Lapone story. Oh, because what we found out, what if
Speaker 1: you've watched the Pewee documentary, what you found out is
Speaker 1: that Pewey Herman a little difficult. Yeah he would, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that very difficult. I knew that from Groundling's people
Speaker 1: back in the day. Okay, let's go back.
Speaker 3: A lot of you guys wanted us to talk about
Speaker 3: this actually, so hopefully you've watched, but if not, you
Speaker 3: can still follow this. They made they being this guy,
Speaker 3: Matt Wolf is that his name. This director made this
Speaker 3: two part documentary that Peewee or we'll call him Paul.
Speaker 3: That's his name, Paul Rubens. He really wanted to direct
Speaker 3: it himself. And they leave all that in, They leave
Speaker 3: all of him just really being difficult about even what's
Speaker 3: being put and filmed. But he's also being kind of funny.
Speaker 3: You and I know that he's being cheeky right like.
Speaker 1: Some but I think that what we're supposed to start
Speaker 1: to realize is that he's trying. He's actually masking a
Speaker 1: very controlling personality. I mean funny, but he's kind of
Speaker 1: doing a and a bunch of times they leave in
Speaker 1: where he goes I'm just kidding, but actually right am
Speaker 1: I yeah, I know if I'm kidding, and he was.
Speaker 3: He made me laugh every single time. I mean he is.
Speaker 3: Let me just say the positives. Yes, absolutely delightfully brilliant,
Speaker 3: I mean like and I did not realize it when
Speaker 3: I was young, So I was too old for it
Speaker 3: to be like a cartoon show, you know, like a
Speaker 3: kid show. Because this was late eighty I was like
Speaker 3: already in high school late eighties and nineties, so it
Speaker 3: didn't hit me like that. And I was too young
Speaker 3: to see it as like an absurd mister show kind
Speaker 3: of amazing thing. I miss that, so I to me,
Speaker 3: I didn't under I never really got the peewee thing.
Speaker 3: I saw the first movie where he has the bike
Speaker 3: and he's at the Alamo and everyone loved it, and
Speaker 3: I was like, wasn't getting it?
Speaker 1: I didn't get it back then. Well, can I tell
Speaker 1: like a quick little story for me. When I was
Speaker 1: in high school, I had this friend, my friend who
Speaker 1: I moved to California with my friend Heidi, and we
Speaker 1: bonded so hard over this thing that was called The
Speaker 1: Paragon of Comedy. It was a John Paragon comedy special,
Speaker 1: and they talk about John Paragon, who was also a
Speaker 1: groundling in this documentary. They don't talk about him a lot,
Speaker 1: but if you remember, a lot of people were like,
Speaker 1: oh my god. So when he met John Paragon, they
Speaker 1: totally bonded. They became like best friends. He played Johnbie.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, okay, John Paragon, hold on the Paragon of Comedy.
Speaker 1: I want to see what year this came out. Okay,
Speaker 1: so this came out in nineteen eighty three. Okay, so
Speaker 1: I was in high school because I graduated in eighty four,
Speaker 1: and my friend Heidi and I, you know those things
Speaker 1: that become like cult classics. I don't know, if you
Speaker 1: have to yourself to your friends. We watched it over
Speaker 1: and over and over and over. We own it. I guess.
Speaker 1: We bought it on video and it was. It was
Speaker 1: basically like mister Show. They just it was sketches and
Speaker 1: we thought it was just the funniest thing. And it
Speaker 1: was a lot of those characters, Like they did one
Speaker 1: where the two of them were very heavy. I mean
Speaker 1: it's really not politically correct, right, but they just love
Speaker 1: yet they just love bread. So it's just like but
Speaker 1: they just loved treats. And it's the two of them.
Speaker 1: They're like roommates and they're just like bread, oh, dessert,
Speaker 1: and they just keep like and then people they're like
Speaker 1: red Delivery and they both do that voice and we
Speaker 1: would cry.
Speaker 2: Like wait, and Paul Rubens isn't that as well?
Speaker 1: It's the two of them. Oh okay, John Peregon's special,
Speaker 1: but it's John Peregrin, the paragon of comedy. But a
Speaker 1: bunch of them are are the Paul Rubens. So you
Speaker 1: loved like had you knew? I mean I didn't. I yes,
Speaker 1: I was obsessed, and I I loved Pee Wee. I
Speaker 1: love Pee Wee's Big Adventure, Like I loved the show
Speaker 1: Pee Wee's Playhouse like it was. So this was especially
Speaker 1: fascinating to me.
Speaker 3: The idea of the backstory, Yeah, I did, and Weirdly,
Speaker 3: I sort of knew his darkness. I'd remember hearing people talk,
Speaker 3: and this is before he was arrested, I guess for
Speaker 3: things that were just so stupid. I cannot believe, Like,
Speaker 3: I can't believe he was dragged how he was dragged
Speaker 3: for shit like that. And I do think it was
Speaker 3: like a witch an LGBT witch hunt. Oh yeah, and
Speaker 3: the fact that like, so we'll get into that, but
Speaker 3: I also want to say, first off, like laugh. I
Speaker 3: watched that by myself, as I do, and I laughed
Speaker 3: so hard out loud I'd never seen because I'd never
Speaker 3: really watched the actual Pee Wee's Saturday Morning Playhouse, the
Speaker 3: thing where they show They're like, we just thought it'd
Speaker 3: be kind of funny to like have a dog, like
Speaker 3: a close up on a dog eating for two minutes. Now,
Speaker 3: that kind of shit makes time. Stuff really makes me laugh,
Speaker 3: like I would think. It just makes you feel high
Speaker 3: and it's so funny. And then the kid when he
Speaker 3: made the second movie after and he hated it. I
Speaker 3: made my friend watch it and he's like I can't
Speaker 3: keep watching him, like you have to. That's what makes
Speaker 3: it so funny.
Speaker 1: Yes, it was like at three minute, really serious kiss
Speaker 1: him in that bow tie, like like real gentle and tender.
Speaker 1: Ye just kissing this woman. And then you hear I
Speaker 1: was watching my friend.
Speaker 3: I was listening to him watch it, and then you
Speaker 3: just hear like, so the kiss ends after like three minutes,
Speaker 3: my friend's getting all bored, and then you just hear like.
Speaker 1: Who's that? Who's that peewee? And he's like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: she's nobody, and.
Speaker 3: Then he's like, they're like what and then he's like, oh,
Speaker 3: it's my girlfriend, my fiance. It's so silly and absurd.
Speaker 3: And he really was like, but what's interestarming little man?
Speaker 1: But what's interesting to me too, which I didn't know,
Speaker 1: was that some of that wasn't just because he thought
Speaker 1: it would be so great. It was because he was
Speaker 1: really trying kind of trying to be an asshole and
Speaker 1: be rebellious. And he knew that because he'd gotten like
Speaker 1: the rights to do it and do whatever he wanted cut, yes,
Speaker 1: he had final cuts. So he was like, I don't care.
Speaker 1: I don't care that everybody's mad about this and thinks
Speaker 1: I'm just doing it, But that is so genius. I
Speaker 1: love that it is, but it's not at the same time,
Speaker 1: it's just it is difficult. It is like you're just
Speaker 1: doing that to fuck with people.
Speaker 2: Then I think that's I mean, it is.
Speaker 3: At one point early on in the documentary, he says
Speaker 3: something about, you know, he was trying to find these
Speaker 3: really cool artists on Melrose.
Speaker 1: He kept talking about Melrose. I guess Melrose used.
Speaker 3: To be different, and he's like, I really wanted like
Speaker 3: a punk Our show was really punk, and at first
Speaker 3: I was like, it is not punk. And then as
Speaker 3: I watched it and learned all the people that they assembled,
Speaker 3: it was kind of punk. It was sort of like
Speaker 3: fuck you. Yeah, I didn't get I didn't get it
Speaker 3: because I was too too young. I was too young.
Speaker 3: I just didn't understand. And then even when like so,
Speaker 3: then it was sort of made cool.
Speaker 1: I don't know if we need to go through the
Speaker 1: whole documentary, but yeah, you find out a lot about like,
Speaker 1: you know, how he was closeted. He felt like he
Speaker 1: couldn't really come out. He didn't feel well. I didn't
Speaker 1: even know if he felt like he couldn't come out.
Speaker 1: I think he just wanted it to be private. I
Speaker 1: don't know. Okay, So here here's like what happened For
Speaker 1: anybody that didn't watch the documentary, you find out that
Speaker 1: he comes to like California, he meets this or maybe
Speaker 1: this was before he came to California, but he's kind
Speaker 1: of has a girlfriend, but I don't know if they
Speaker 1: ever even fooling around, right, And then he meets this
Speaker 1: guy at a party and he's like, oh my god, like,
Speaker 1: that's that's my guy, Like I want to be with
Speaker 1: that guy. And whose name is I believe guy? Hmm too, guy,
Speaker 1: that's my guy. That's guy, my guy. Anyway, and they're
Speaker 1: like together, they're they're in live.
Speaker 2: He was out.
Speaker 1: He wasn't like no, he was totally out. He was out,
Speaker 1: and he had a serious relationship.
Speaker 3: And the black guy that's right, Yeah, that guy, he
Speaker 3: was like kind of an art Yeah, he was coolish.
Speaker 1: He was really cool. Yeah, and they were like in
Speaker 1: love and they lived together and they had like a
Speaker 1: dog I think, or you know, I mean, they were
Speaker 1: full playing house. And the way it seemed to me
Speaker 1: in the documentary was all of a sudden, he just
Speaker 1: kind of freaked out and he was like, yeah, oh
Speaker 1: my god, what am I doing? And he says he
Speaker 1: kind of says that he lost himself in the relationship.
Speaker 1: But I think he says that somebody said to him,
Speaker 1: like are you going to be in a relationship or
Speaker 1: are you going to be an actor? And all of
Speaker 1: a sudden he was like, oh my god, Like, am
Speaker 1: I just going to be like this guy who loses
Speaker 1: himself who's in a relationship. But for some reason, at
Speaker 1: that point he decides like, yeah, I'm not gonna be
Speaker 1: gay anymore. I'm going to not tell anybody that I'm.
Speaker 2: Getting just didn't want to. He wanted his He was
Speaker 2: very private.
Speaker 3: I mean that I will have to say, like the
Speaker 3: whole pee wee, it was all a persona. He never
Speaker 3: even did interviews until the very end as Paul and
Speaker 3: he had a really like hard time doing it, Like
Speaker 3: he didn't Paul was off themits peewe is what you got,
Speaker 3: and that's the premieres when he went to the premiers
Speaker 3: and he.
Speaker 2: Did talk shows.
Speaker 3: But like all it was such an interesting and complicated dude,
Speaker 3: And yeah, he was a little difficult and he'd done
Speaker 3: all these There's something about the Groundlings. There's something about
Speaker 3: that world that they can get so competitive because like
Speaker 3: they write a sketch together then one of them gets SNL.
Speaker 3: It sounds like pee Wee was pretty annoyed that Phil Hartman,
Speaker 3: who was like his partner yes and did stuff on
Speaker 3: Pee Wee, got SNL and it seemed like those two,
Speaker 3: those two egos did not go well together.
Speaker 1: Although in the documentary Paul Rubens was like, yeah, I
Speaker 1: was like happy for him, you know, that's but you know,
Speaker 1: then he went off and did SNL and like he
Speaker 1: was really busy with that. So right, so we were
Speaker 1: doing our show. But then they interviewed Phil Hartman, and
Speaker 1: Phil Hartman was like, yeah, he hasn't spoken to me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he also said something else and he's like,
Speaker 3: yeah he was. They were like was he difficult? There
Speaker 3: was a question where he was like, yeah, he wasn't
Speaker 3: the easiest like he which which makes me believe that
Speaker 3: that is true, but it also makes me believe they're
Speaker 3: both two big egos.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know what happened there.
Speaker 3: I mean, we love Phil Hartmon and we love Phoebe
Speaker 3: Herman as actors, as comics or we did, but yeah,
Speaker 3: I think that was interesting. A lot of people interviewed,
Speaker 3: a lot of people turned on him. This is what
Speaker 3: was interesting. Too once, so he got For those who
Speaker 3: don't know, Paul Rubins was at a like an adult
Speaker 3: pornographic theater. I didn't even know they have those, Like,
Speaker 3: how do you even know where those are?
Speaker 1: You thought they used to be everywhere.
Speaker 3: There was one on Santa Monica. It was the one
Speaker 3: that Fred Willard got caught at. Remember Fred Willard got
Speaker 3: in the same arrest.
Speaker 1: The thing so ridiculous is the whole point of those
Speaker 1: theaters is so that you can go there and watch
Speaker 1: a porno amongst other people and jerk off. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean the question you're supposed to just what are you
Speaker 1: going to just want? You're just you're watching porn just
Speaker 1: to like for the art of it. Oh, that's what
Speaker 1: people are doing. But they didn't have I don't think
Speaker 1: they had it.
Speaker 3: They had it. You could watch porn since the for
Speaker 3: a very long time out Well, then you're trying to
Speaker 3: be you know, I'm not saying the question is like
Speaker 3: I think those places are illegal. So they're probably saying
Speaker 3: on the because they got raided, they're saying they're regular theater,
Speaker 3: and then they know what they are, and then the
Speaker 3: Feds or whoever decided that they shouldn't be doing that.
Speaker 3: I'm not saying it, but the morality police, Yeah, the
Speaker 3: morality police came in and then he's the one, and
Speaker 3: then they made this like huge.
Speaker 1: But it's not like he was on the street. No
Speaker 1: jerking off. That's that's that's it's a lot different to
Speaker 1: be in a dark theater jerking off while everybody else
Speaker 1: is jerking off. So they raid the whole theater and
Speaker 1: they kick off. They're all consenting adults that know what.
Speaker 3: He tries doing, and he's the guy that they make
Speaker 3: the poster child for it because he's the famous one.
Speaker 3: So right, and then did you notice he only got
Speaker 3: a fifty dollars fine. He plied no contest.
Speaker 2: He got good lawyers, but he had a really.
Speaker 3: Hard time or he takes some friends and like he
Speaker 3: got through it and they started. I think Leno, Leno
Speaker 3: is very good. I think it was Leno. Leno's good
Speaker 3: at having people on who have been canceled. We'll give
Speaker 3: him that. He did it with Hugh Grant, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean, Like just he tries to because they
Speaker 3: know him. So a few people stood up for him
Speaker 3: and he came back. That's when I think he made
Speaker 3: his the jet appetetic people rallied around him. They really did,
Speaker 3: like all his old friends people famously. Now this is
Speaker 3: the first time. Then later in the documentary you find out, Okay,
Speaker 3: who was the guy that played the principal on Ferris
Speaker 3: Bueller's Day Off, Jeffrey something. Uh huh, he was the
Speaker 3: one that had child porn. He got arrested for it.
Speaker 3: That's a very big deal. Well, those two had been friends,
Speaker 3: and Jeffrey had been at Peewee's house and there was
Speaker 3: maybe an underage person there that then.
Speaker 2: Said pee Wee. Also they basically named pee Wee when
Speaker 2: they were suing Jeffrey.
Speaker 1: Okay, they said he had child porn, but he didn't.
Speaker 2: He didn't.
Speaker 3: So then the FEDS came in and rated and took
Speaker 3: like he was a collector. So he was a hoarder
Speaker 3: of all these weird old vintage magazines and stuff.
Speaker 1: He's very pee wee hermit. Paul Rubens was very like
Speaker 1: John Waters type.
Speaker 3: Yes, that's what I was thinking too. That's why it
Speaker 3: felt like a very sort of gay witch hunt. Yeah,
Speaker 3: because Waters, you know, has all that stuff too. It
Speaker 3: probably has been arrested as well on some kind of
Speaker 3: a set charge. Yes, they couldn't find again. He got
Speaker 3: one hundred dollars. Fine, no jail time, I mean like,
Speaker 3: but then had to register as.
Speaker 2: A sex offender.
Speaker 1: Ruined his life. They completely ruined it that time.
Speaker 3: It sort of did. That was sort of it. And
Speaker 3: you know who did rally was his friend. He'd become
Speaker 3: really good friends with Courtney Cox and David Arquette.
Speaker 1: I know, I thought that David Arquette has.
Speaker 3: Always been known to be like the sweetest little guy.
Speaker 3: He's sweet, yes, everyone, He's just a very sensitive, sweet man.
Speaker 3: And I like the Courtney was like, yeah, family, I know,
Speaker 3: I know, I know, it's a good family.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 3: I agree. He's just a really gentle soul. And I
Speaker 3: like that Courtney stood by him as well, and I
Speaker 3: was like, of course, you can come stay at our house. Yeah,
Speaker 3: my god, you had a fifties comic book with like
Speaker 3: a with like a teenager shirtless.
Speaker 1: That's a cartoon. It's not even if some of it was,
Speaker 1: but it was.
Speaker 3: It was crazy, And yeah, that's the one that kind
Speaker 3: of did him in. He didn't really well, it didn't okay.
Speaker 3: Between that, he did start doing like indies and stuff.
Speaker 3: He was working as Paul.
Speaker 1: He started doing movie, he started trying to come out
Speaker 1: as Paul. Yeah, and he never really came out of
Speaker 1: the court. He never really came out of the closet, right,
Speaker 1: he kind of went back in actually yeah, he just
Speaker 1: was yeah. And then he apparently had cancer and didn't
Speaker 1: tell anybody anybody about it. But then also which I
Speaker 1: just thought was so fascinating. So he makes this documentary,
Speaker 1: but then he gets in an argue, he gets in
Speaker 1: a fight with the documentary, with the filmmaker over control. Yeah,
Speaker 1: where he didn't. He did not want He wanted to
Speaker 1: be in control. He wanted to be the director, and
Speaker 1: that would happen a lot. He didn't like questions that
Speaker 1: were leading. He'd be like, you know, which you have
Speaker 1: to make in a documentary. You have to be like, well,
Speaker 1: how did you feel really bad in this money? He's like,
Speaker 1: you're leading. I don't like being led. Yeah, what do
Speaker 1: you want me to say? But then sometimes he'd be
Speaker 1: really funny with that stuff too. He would just say
Speaker 1: nonsensical things and then be like, who knows if it's true,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean he wasn't flying along, and
Speaker 1: he did say that he did tell the director, you
Speaker 1: can't put this out, I think, and then so then
Speaker 1: it sat on a shelf for years, remember, Yeah, and
Speaker 1: then at the very at the end of his life,
Speaker 1: he gave permission for them to put out the documentary.
Speaker 2: It really made me cry.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it was so sad.
Speaker 2: It was really sad, and it was very different.
Speaker 3: You know, we both cried at the Gary Shanling thing
Speaker 3: that Jed Appatow did, but it was a different kind
Speaker 3: of thing.
Speaker 1: This.
Speaker 3: This was like a little more confusing because All was
Speaker 3: a difficult dude, you know, he just like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, interestingly though, it's interesting that you bring that up,
Speaker 1: and I would I want to, like maybe even rewatch
Speaker 1: it because I remember because I think we talked about
Speaker 1: it on the show, but we totally talked about it.
Speaker 1: Gary Schandling thing was weird because he comes off as
Speaker 1: so much more of a douche and a narcissist than like,
Speaker 1: you think of Gary Shandling as a genius. Then you
Speaker 1: watch this documentary and you're like, really, he was kind
Speaker 1: of hacky, I mean, kind of at all.
Speaker 3: I always come back to this and I'm sorry to
Speaker 3: have to bring Oh, this is a whole other topic
Speaker 3: which we don't have time for now. But because I
Speaker 3: wanted to say some stuff about Bill Maher, but let's
Speaker 3: just save that.
Speaker 2: Maybe we'll do that. Maybe that will be I don't know.
Speaker 3: He remember when Gary was on Bill Maher with Sean
Speaker 3: Penn and I don't know why it maybe laugh So
Speaker 3: Sean was just talking about some something whatever and Gary
Speaker 3: kind of glazed over, and then he was like, Okay,
Speaker 3: are you done or whatever.
Speaker 2: He's like, do you think I could use your summer
Speaker 2: house in Iran?
Speaker 3: It just really made me laugh the way Gary Shanley
Speaker 3: and even Sean Penn laughed. Even he was like okay, ah,
Speaker 3: but he was just trying to say, like he's so ridiculous, right,
Speaker 3: you know, right, like so so not that we're not left,
Speaker 3: but so far left that he's like, you probably have
Speaker 3: a summerhouse in Iran?
Speaker 1: Can I use it?
Speaker 3: He is so he was so witty and so funny.
Speaker 3: But yeah, he was also a dick. So I think
Speaker 3: your point is it's just.
Speaker 1: A real dick. He fucked over like a lot of
Speaker 1: women women, Yeah he did. He was an asshole to
Speaker 1: people on the set. He was he it was. He
Speaker 1: was not good. He fucked over managers. He was always
Speaker 1: having like fights with people, but also he fucked them over?
Speaker 1: Or was he just won in control of his career?
Speaker 1: Not the women part.
Speaker 3: I mean that I can't I can't say why, but
Speaker 3: like you know, fucking over managers it's like fucking over
Speaker 3: an agent is like killing a snake for a guilty
Speaker 3: I don't have like much faith in like the suits
Speaker 3: these days, so I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, did he just change managers? You know what
Speaker 1: I mean. I'm just I'm just I'm just talking for
Speaker 1: the you know, I have to rewatch it again. But
Speaker 1: he was in a lot of lawsuits. Yeah, I recall
Speaker 1: with a lot of other people that have a lot
Speaker 1: of lawsuits too. You know what I mean, it's show business.
Speaker 1: I just want to us it's not show friends, Cecily not.
Speaker 1: This is what I'm saying. So so far, I had
Speaker 1: taken the side of Paddy. Here's what I've took a
Speaker 1: side of Patti Labone. I took a side of Gary
Speaker 1: Shandling being a dick to his agents because I don't
Speaker 1: really like agents.
Speaker 2: What other bad takes.
Speaker 3: So I'm very well, I'm pro peewee, but that we
Speaker 3: agree on we do well. And I'm not all pro patty.
Speaker 3: I do not You don't call your fellow actors bitches,
Speaker 3: Like that's just for date. She's like an eighty thousand
Speaker 3: years old Stop.
Speaker 1: I'm not all pro pee Wee Herman either, though it
Speaker 1: sounds like he was. It sounds like he was kind
Speaker 1: of a nightmare to a lot of people. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: so funny. It was really really funny, so funny.
Speaker 3: I just I'm so happy that I have all this
Speaker 3: now that I know that I get to go back
Speaker 3: and really watch it with those eyes.
Speaker 1: Now that I understand it. I really just didn't get it.
Speaker 1: It's it's just interesting too, Like show business is such
Speaker 1: a weird thing because is there no business like it?
Speaker 1: There's no business like show business, right, But you know,
Speaker 1: he was even talking about the idea that, you know,
Speaker 1: you get famous and it's hard to deal with. It's
Speaker 1: hard to deal with having that kind of power. It's
Speaker 1: hard to deal with, like, you know, just everybody telling
Speaker 1: you that you're a genius and it changes people.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he said exactly that. You guys, go watch it,
Speaker 3: Go watch the Pee Wee. It's on HBO Max. Don't
Speaker 3: be stupid, don't be ridiculous. Should we plug our Patreon?
Speaker 3: Don't be a batch. Should we plug what we're gonna
Speaker 3: talk about on Patreon? Yes? Oh you had another thing too,
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Speaker 1: Okay, I have remember we talked about me, me making
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