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Speaker 5: Anybody remember the name of a dried up river or
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Speaker 3: I was right on tip of my tope right there.
Speaker 2: Carlo is a really good point guard.
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Speaker 3: Okay, that's it as a whole fact.
Speaker 4: The name gotcha, uh, Cody in said the Bouty four
Chattel love how everyone into the station picked LSU to win,
yet the chat is hating on the scone and celebrating
him being wrong. Cody, you think, like when we do
the picks with Marlar by the way, and yeah we did,
I'll pick LSU and in the picks of the other games,
I think I went undefeated.
Speaker 3: And that's the most.
Speaker 4: You're gonna hear about it, because it's like we get
those in me and Matt sometimes we look at each
and be like, hey, this sounds good. Yeah, that sounds good. Okay, Sin,
I wouldn't put a lot into that. I'm gonna be
honest with you. I'm not gonna have my picture next
to somebody else's logo. I'm gonna tell you that right
now l should be twenty eight point dogs.
Speaker 2: I'm probably gonna be the same.
Speaker 5: I think this is the week.
Speaker 2: This is the week.
Speaker 5: That's what that's gonna be our thought process.
Speaker 4: I might just put like a picture of Marshawn Lynch
and just my score prediction. I'm here so I don't
get fined. Yeah that makes you feel Maybe that makes
you feel better about it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but I wouldn't look at when we when you're
asking LSU fans, I don't care if we do radio
or not to pick a score for LSU. I'm gonna
pick with my heart. I pick what I want. Would
I want the score to be? Yeah, it's what I'm like.
Why not.
Speaker 3: I did speak to a.
Speaker 4: Group in Nashville on Friday, and I could tell they
didn't like my vibe of how it needs you to
be a little bit or positive to I was like, look,
I'm just telling you where they're really good and it
could be uh be a little troubles me if if
if you didn't contain. My whole point was like, if
you don't contain, diego Pavia and you don't have good discipline, Yep,
this is what can happen. And so many times in
that game, you had the right call, like Blake Baker
had the right call, the execution wasn't there and it
was clear as day to see, like when you rushed
from the outside and you're the guy who is rushing
off the edge, be it at a corner, be it
a linebacker star or whatever. When you rush, you gotta
rush to the upfield shoulder, like the highest point because
you're contained right in Diego Pavia, how many times he
saw that you rushing into his front shoulder and he
had old spin move, yeah, and bro Contein and a
lot of all hell breaks loose when that happens to
that guy.
Speaker 3: That guy's really good.
Speaker 5: At it, and a guy's gonna look kind of like
that's gonna make his plays in any game that he played.
I don't care what defense he's playing, even if you
have the perfect technique, but you did kind of make
it easy on him by just taking bad, like you said,
bad rush angles. But then I just I just felt
like there was bad angles taken all over the field
throughout that game. I didn't think there was that many
mental mistakes, Like I didn't watch it. Of course, I
didn't watch the defensive film against Vanderbilt with as close
of an eye as I did the offense, because the
offensive struggles are more way more glaring, yeah than the
defensive struggles. But I just didn't notice as many missed
assignments and things that were glaring, except for you know,
just physically, we didn't as a whole. We didn't make
the plays. You didn't take the right angles, you couldn't
get down on the ground. You just didn't make the
plays that you were like an opportunity presented itself. And
then when you do that against a guy that is
playing his ass off like Diego Pavia and a team
that is outstandingly coached for the details of every every position.
Everybody on that field did their one to eleven, did
their job and was coached to do their job, and
executed it from like a very very minor detail to
a big picture thing. And when you got a guy
that plays off schedule like that, there's a couple of
plays you just you got to take your hat off
to him and be like, hey, hell of a play man,
got there's there's there's not a defense we can call
up to defend that play you just made, because you
can't expect a guy that's beating you with his feet
to scramble around for eight seconds. Back there, of course
in the back is blocking. Of course, the guy that
has the backman demand is gonna be like, all right,
it's been like eight seconds. I'm gonna try to rest
this quarterback now. And the running back of course pops
free and more time buys more time. Like it just
plays that are gonna happen. But when you were presented
the opportunity to make plays, it just it didn't always
didn't happen.
Speaker 4: But again, let's yeah, we can we can get into
some of the defensive stuff and maybe here in the
next couple of seconds we can actually pull it up
and show you because like the thing for the defense.
Speaker 3: And I know I've heard people be like, oh this
defense they said they were relieve they're not.
Speaker 4: But if you watch it, like the things that happened
to the defense, like when Vanderbilt just lined up and
ran the football, which they've done on everybody, they didn't
make any hay.
Speaker 3: It was the off schedule stuff. They gave you problems.
Speaker 4: The receivers didn't really have placed Now the tight ends
yet again all old miss game gave you trouble. The
tight end continues to give you trouble. But it was
the chaotic plays that you didn't handle. And this felt
like a game in which, like there's games Witweeks can miss,
this was a bad one for him to miss because
maybe he could handle some of the chaos. But look,
there's quarterbacks that you're about to play won this week
certainly went against Oklahoma. Guess where they thrive in the chaos.
So it's not an excuse, it's just facts that that's
what you didn't handle well. And like on the fourth down,
like Jack Pibrin has a good rush. It surprises Diego
Pavia and like he because they had it. That was
a throwback screen. Nobody's called it that, but that's what
it was on the fourth down. It was a throwback
screen to the running back and you can see the
offensive lineman set the release, and so Diego Pavia gets
surprised because Jack Pibrin's in his face right now. He
doesn't bite on the play action or I think it
was play action to the right.
Speaker 3: Either way, we'll go back and look at it.
Speaker 4: And so Diego's like, oh gosh, I gotta buy some
time because this has got to develop. And he makes
you miss and he throws it back across and you've
got Lineman there trying to get out there as well.
It went wider than I think, but like that's a
play where you had a guy in the backfield.
Speaker 2: It's a good rush, good play red.
Speaker 4: You know, he recognizes the play and the recognition of
the plays right there. But Diego knew what he had.
He didn't panic, he didn't get away from the play.
He just continued to buy time. And then those are
across the field on a fourth down conversion. Vanderbilt.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think defensively, we I feel like in the
game gets very close, very close to the entire game.
It was like the game of like we were right there,
like so close to stopping them multiple times. At the
end of the day, when you look at the big picture,
with the game still undecided, but still with then I
think it was four points into the second half, get
a big fourth down stop, give your offense the opportunity
to take the lead going into halftime. How different does
that game feel? They can execute and they get the
ball in their own in Vanderbilt territory. Into the game,
we hadn't been able to stop them, stop them. You
get him two stops in a row to try to
get back in that game and potentially take a lead.
Much How different is the narrative this week? The offense
executes the small things. Yeah, football is about the small things.
You gotta execute the details, and we laid out a
lot of those details. But so we can we can.
We can sit here and harp on the defense is
all we want. And they had plays to be made
that weren't made. And sure there's certainly, of course there's clips,
you know, floating all over the internet of LSU getting
out physicaled in the trenches, which did happen, didn't happen
every play. It's not like they just came out and
physically dominated us every single play. But LSU needs LSU
defense needs to get that swagger back a night game
at home this week versus top three opponent. Get the
swagger back, become the hammer again, don't be the nail
because for a lot of that game this past weekend
as a team as a whole, was the nail and
not the hammer. So you got to get the swagger back.
We got to get back, and it has to start
with the defense. The offense has to make its improvement, certainly,
but if we're going to win this game, if we
want any chance to beat A and M this week
at home, that defense is gonna have to come play
with a tear on fire and dominate the.
Speaker 2: Game inside the boy four chats.
Speaker 4: So all you need is a good tight end and
a mobile quarterback to beat Blake's defense. No, because there's
somebody assigned to the tight end. He's gonna execute your
job like it's man coverage. Is its man coverage? Like
you don't leave.
Speaker 3: And that was a problem I think in the Vanderbilt game.
Speaker 4: And I haven't had a chance to ask like this,
but like we're people trying to do too much to
stop Diego Pavia. And you could see it live in
the game any big down, any big down, and anytime
that Diego Pavia put it in the running backs belly,
like you had like four people like halt and stop.
There's somebody for the running back, there's somebody for the
tight end. There's somebody for Diego Pavia. And you have
to play your part. We always talk about b your
one to eleventh but and I get it. Look, I
get it, like he's a game changer, he's taking it.
But the problem was you were hon in on that,
and even if you were doing your job, you froze
and worried about him when he wasn't your responsibility. Then
you're a second late getting to your responsibility. Then it's
too late because it's a seven yard game.
Speaker 5: Yep, Yeah, you're right. And I noticed that last the
South Carolina game, I noticed breaking down the film watching
how we how we went about defending Lenora's Sellers, especially
like on third downs a lot of times there was
two defenders that were spying him, and I thought it
was like, I was curious when I was watching, I
was like, you don't need two spies, you just need one.
We ran We ran what was essentially a cover zero
type defense against Lenora Sellers, so four across, four DB's
across for four man to man on the receivers. It
was clear like it was zero coverage. But the point
of bringing to zero coverage is that you get one
extra guy blitz in and you make the quarterback get
the ball out really fast because you had an extra
guy blitz and that can't be accounted for. But they
they kind of took away their blitz advantage and left
two linebackers to spy for Lenora's Sellers. Now it worked out, yeah,
but it was to me it was kind of an
unsound approach to that. Now, maybe it was a misassignment, right,
Maybe it was somebody was supposed to blitz and the
it wasn't supposed to proy. But I've noticed multiple times
in this past game, Pavey is scrambling out and two
people trying to account for him. Harold Perkins leaving any
thought that he have of being a curl flat defender
or a post defender, or a man defender for that matter,
to go chase Pavia from like twenty yards away.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you just can't do it.
Speaker 4: I mean, look, you get away with it a lot
because you are an athletic, freaking you can close that
gap against Clemson. You did it, and Kate Clebnick didn't
have an answer for it. The Eagle Paviy is not
Kate Clubnick, and it was something that then got you
multiple multiple time.
Speaker 5: A LSU two and two versus quarterbacks this season. So
let's get back to the winning record.
Speaker 4: All right, we will take a break, continue some more
of this conversation. I do want to get to the
Saints at some point today, and I know we have
uh Nick Underhill joining us at nine to go over it.
Speaker 3: Man, he's probably gonna be so excited.
Speaker 5: We're gonna get him on film. I want to see
the joy in this face.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we can ask him, all right, we'll say the
name Tyler Shuck.
Speaker 4: All I got, I've got a lot of thoughts on that,
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Speaker 7: L C Baseball all up in the White House.
Speaker 6: So was l C Streetporte.
Speaker 2: Let's go undefeated baseball Sea Yeah yeah, God they were dominant.
Speaker 6: We've all said it. LSU shreetport Su predominant, no doubt,
real and great.
Speaker 5: I think they we read the stats off in the summer.
Speaker 8: Yeah, like they like sept records for like consecutive wins
all that, Like they're they were like, actually, we're.
Speaker 5: Saying the best baseball team Louisiana.
Speaker 4: That was that actually would have been like you know,
something like in the sixties and seventies. They would have
done like they used to have, like like the college
All Star team used to play like NFL teams Like
that would have been fun if they'd have had LU
would have been play against LSU like in the box
and it wouldn't had to have been like you know
l s u's top guys because they got drafted.
Speaker 2: I get that, but that would have been fun.
Speaker 6: Yeah, was it was it?
Speaker 5: The national champion would play like the Pro Bowl team
or something like that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it looks so sharp. Look at Steven Blom Yeah.
Speaker 5: All hey, nice fits all around.
Speaker 3: Look, Matt and I got a chance.
Speaker 4: Matt did the Tennessee team that did it three times
three times once.
Speaker 3: Very cool experience.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't care like what your politics are like
when you get a chance to meet like the president
like a big deal. Like I've said, I told the
story a thousand times, but like George W. Bush telling
me come on in here, man, get in here. I
was like, the President, I'm giving you this football. Can
I I don't know, like you wanted to picture. I'm like,
can you touch the.
Speaker 2: President of people with some automatic weapons?
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, but like, very cool. That's something none
of those players will ever forget ever. Those period again,
You've done it three times are.
Speaker 6: Going to be awesome. I'm like, I'm going to look back.
Speaker 5: Was the best one.
Speaker 6: J Johnson's speech was awesome too, Yeah, yeah, I saw.
Speaker 7: Trump's was great, Like, yeah, it's an experience that you'll
never forget.
Speaker 6: I've never experienced.
Speaker 7: I'm sure it's great, but I can only imagine that
it's just the biggest honor and experience that it's fantastic.
Speaker 5: It is, like you said, no matter what your politics are,
it's the president of the United States of America. Yeah,
it doesn't matter. So I went there and let's see
three oh seven and then two thousand and eleven, Sous twice,
Obama once, And it was amazing all three times, right,
and amazing.
Speaker 4: They kept saying, hey, y'alls quarterback keeps asking the president
about nineteen ninety five Texas Rangers stats and we really
need him to stop.
Speaker 5: Yeah, like, what's this guy's deal?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's weird, now Bush, what are we doing?
Speaker 5: It is humbling to know that, all right? So No, seven,
Like we were, we were pretty close to the president
during that very close. So it's like hand shoulder.
Speaker 2: It was nerve racket yea, yeah.
Speaker 5: Other other teams. I was like, you know, back left corner,
but that your background podder, background podder, for sure. I
was on the staircase, like thecase like a wedding picture. Yeah,
but being closer to him, it was like it was
humbling knowing that I'm definitely in the crosshairs of somebody
was looking at me one safety and yeah away from
don't make a wrong move though, So to your point,
it's like I'm gonna hand you this football. How close
can I actually get?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah?
Speaker 4: And the President had to tell me get on in here,
in here, yeah, win for the real thing.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Like dude, when we were there with Green Bay
and T was an eleven, we had a player in
our team, linebacker who forgot his ID.
Speaker 2: Oh no I had to sit on the bus. No, no.
Speaker 3: He didn't.
Speaker 5: He didn't get to go made the trip.
Speaker 4: It was awesome the plane because I mean, like it's
like a charter charter plane, like you just it's a
private chart. They have like a they have like a
booklet basically that has like everybody's I D picture and
like they just flip it and they see and he was.
Speaker 5: Like and I felt we felt so bad for him
because like he was so excited to meet Obama. He
was like a thing. It's a big deal. Yeah, yeah,
absolute he forgot his idea.
Speaker 6: Dang, I feel so bad for.
Speaker 5: Him, like thinking I hadn't thought about that in so
long to feel bad.
Speaker 4: All over he get a chance, Like did did he
go to any other team and maybe get a chance
to No?
Speaker 2: I didn't think he did.
Speaker 3: Not many people get to go three times. This guy.
Speaker 8: Jelish Thompson tweeted that out. Josh Pearson tweeted that out.
That's him and Trump shaking hands.
Speaker 2: So cool, so cool.
Speaker 6: I love it.
Speaker 4: Also, whoa why is that man catching a straight short?
Speaker 2: Even guys low.
Speaker 3: Man wins right, he looks, he looks.
Speaker 5: He looks exactly like Ricky Faller in that picture. It's anybody.
Speaker 2: Well, if he had the all orange want to be perfect, I.
Speaker 5: Would be perfect. He looks just like Ricky. Sorry, who
was the what was the team? What was the year
that they came? And uh they came? Trump had like
all fast food there.
Speaker 6: It was.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it was a.
Speaker 5: Year before L s U was that COVID situation.
Speaker 3: I think yeah, yeah, I think it was after Yeah.
Speaker 8: Right, it was the year before Clemson won in eighteen
and then LU was eighteen.
Speaker 4: Yeah, either way, it was Wendy's right, it was.
Speaker 2: It was like three. It was like three or four
different things.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they like it was we didn't get food, we
got nothing. Yeah, yeah, George, he.
Speaker 6: Didn't feed you.
Speaker 3: He did not feed us. Crazy, he did not.
Speaker 5: He did say when three because we had you were
looking at the White House during the ceremony. L s
U team was on like the left staircase and into
the stage. USC was on the right staircase, and he
famously said, you know, it's big debate on whose best
team is. You know, I got a pretty big front
yard here.
Speaker 2: That's one tiking about how about that.
Speaker 3: Hey, let's settle this.
Speaker 5: Let's settle this right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was Clemson.
Speaker 8: So McDonald's and Wendy's Dominoes and then like some other
like fries all that, but burgers from McDonald's and Wendy's
and the Domino's pizza.
Speaker 4: It was Yeah, Matt and I enjoyed going to a Nationals.
Speaker 3: We went to a Nationals game, had.
Speaker 4: A couple of cold pops, had a couple of Little
Marlin's Nationals.
Speaker 2: We were there first year in the Mall Park.
Speaker 5: We travel as a team, and every time he travels
the team, there's like, you know, there's a curfew, there's
rule you got to go to these team events, team meetings. Well, e'ester.
Now we get there and we're like, wait a minute,
weren't we're not on.
Speaker 4: The team anymore, Like we graduate, Like we were like
getting ready for the the had the combat already.
Speaker 5: Happened, the Combina. It was the spring. It was like
we were a couple of weeks away from the draft.
Speaker 4: Yeah, were about to get drafted and we were about
to like leave the baseball game early because we're like
we got to make it back for curfew.
Speaker 3: And we like we had the same thought at the
same time.
Speaker 4: We look at each other, We're like, they can't do
anything to us, wouldn't play for them anymore.
Speaker 5: I have to do anything. Well, Les can't run us,
and so we talked about Richie Emergan. He's like, yeah,
I'll get you some get some tickets.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's fun. It was a good ballpark. It was
new at the time.
Speaker 7: You know my Mariners, y'all know me, huge Mariners fan,
been a Mariners fan forever.
Speaker 3: That was tough. That was tough. Last night was tough.
Speaker 5: True Yankees fan.
Speaker 4: No, I've I've always been weird. I don't know, weird,
like I don't have a dog in the fight. But
the Manners have never made it to the World Series.
Speaker 6: I was pulling for him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was pulling for.
Speaker 3: Him like something like my nineteen nineties. The Ghost.
Speaker 2: Martinez is Alex Rodriguez King.
Speaker 5: Metaphorical ghost of King Griffy Jr.
Speaker 2: He's a guys. Don't worry, he's still He's still with us.
Don't worry.
Speaker 5: King Griffy Junior Baseball Super Nintendo the best, one of
the best video games of all time.
Speaker 6: I wanted them to do it for him, for each row.
Speaker 5: Randy Johnson, Yeah, I used to give the Rangers fits.
Speaker 2: They've had some they've had some great players and just
through m.
Speaker 7: Man, but I could not get enough of the big dumper,
Like that guy is awesome and I wanted to see
him keep going.
Speaker 5: But he was great. Yeah, Okay, he just doesn't look
like an athlete to right, it's just kind of like
a kind of like this round face.
Speaker 2: He's like unassuming face, and then he just.
Speaker 6: What's the tweet? This is peak mill performance performance.
Speaker 2: So Blue Jays Dodgers, Dodgers.
Speaker 6: I'm pretty grossy, but.
Speaker 4: I'm going for the Dodgers. I can't go against I can't.
I can't go against America. It's an American team version behind.
We did our show yesterday. I think I'm Blue Jays
on this one.
Speaker 5: I think we lost a little credit on our show
yesterday because on our weekend winners, nobody said show, Heytani.
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Speaker 1: Tigers turn talkers. This is off the bench.
Speaker 4: Moon.
Speaker 2: I saw you so soon you take me.
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Speaker 2: I know it must speak the killing time.
Speaker 4: All right, welcome back in ot B here live from
the Raising Kine studio. All right, let's have the conversation.
A lot of talk, a lot of chatter about Spencer Rattler.
And you knew it was going to happen as soon
as he had one game where he had some turnovers.
Speaker 2: It was going to be. I need to see Tyler shuck.
Speaker 3: You got to see what you drafted.
Speaker 4: And again, I'm just telling you, fortieth overall does not
guarantee you anything.
Speaker 2: And you say, well, you got to know, you got
to know.
Speaker 4: Well, he had a shot to win the job at
a training camp and he didn't do it. So I
get the sentiment that you need to find out what
you have, But you found out what you have so
far in practice leading up to your decision to name
Spencer Ratler the starting quarterback. And look, I understand what
you're saying, like the season's loss, you might as well see,
but I'll caution you. What is that telling Spencer Ratler
a guy that right now is thirteenth in the NFL
in passing yards. He's got more passing yards now, He's
got more than like Jordan Love. But Jordan Loun's played
one less game. He's got more and the same games
played as Geno Smith. He's got more than cam Ward
to a tongue of Ailoa, Bryce Young, he's got more
than c. J.
Speaker 5: Stroud.
Speaker 4: He's got more than Aaron Rodgers. He's got more than
a lot of names that you would know. I mean,
right now, I think you can make the argument he's
playing better. Like Matt said, he's playing better than probably
three of the six quarterbacks that got drafted in the
first round that we talk so much about I think
he's playing better than Michael Pennicks right now.
Speaker 5: So well, yeah, go watch Pinix play on Sunday, Like, yeah,
time the game of the line. Ball's in the dirt,
ball's out of bounds, balls thrown over his head.
Speaker 4: So my whole point is if Spencer Ratler, who's completing
sixty eight percent of his passes fourteen hundred yards, like,
if you take him out right now, like, what does
that do to his development? Right? Because he could be
your quarterback of the future, right, So if you take
him out right now, you put Tyler Schuck in for
four games, that's four games that Spencer Ratler does not
get to continue to develop.
Speaker 3: What he's done so far this year.
Speaker 4: And you could look around the NFL right now, and
I think, just without question, there's eight spots where he.
Speaker 2: Would be the starting quarterback for other teams.
Speaker 4: And I heard yesterday he's basically a backup quarterback in
the NFL, which is just so incredibly false and just
not the truth.
Speaker 3: It's just not the truth.
Speaker 4: You talk to NFL scouts, and you talk to Drew Fabiani,
who runs the Senior Bowl, who's a scout in the
NFL for decades, and I'm like, hey, I keep hearing this.
Are my eyes telling me a lie? He goes, No,
there's circles in the NFL right now. And that's the
conversation about Spencer Rattler in the level of play he
has right now.
Speaker 3: So what do you do?
Speaker 4: Because I think if you sit him because you want
to see what you have in Tyler Shuck, doesn't that
hurt his development of not having the four games or
however many you take him out for?
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I think that to give like credence to
people's concern and like the voice, so like it's not
just a couple of people saying it. Like I've been
getting like just absolutely blown up on Twitter since the
game because I've been out there, you know, trying to
like put out those flames, and people like conversations like
why why would you want to do that? So now,
to give credence to that at a certain point, like
if you only have one win and it's at the
end of the season, like we're talking about the like
the like the end like back half of December, and
you want to get some people some extra playing time,
that's I think at that point it's fine. But we're
sitting here in mid October, and you got a quarterback
that is I'm going to call it his first like
real year as being a starter last year, let's take
that out his first top four pass catchers or five
pass catchers on absolute and shambles. So this is a
kid that is shown that he can make every throw,
he can make the read, he can execute an offense.
He goes out in a game, a sloppy game that
was wet ball, raining, muddy field, and doesn't have his
best game. He has three interceptions, one fumble. Yeah, who
I mean, quarterbacks fumble on sacks all the time, right,
So it's just a shame that in this situation where
you do have a guy behind him that's young, albeit
a year older than Rattler, he is a second round
draft pick and everybody just wants to see, wants to see,
wants to see. So Ratler basically has to play perfect
better than twenty five quarterbacks out there in the NFL.
They're starting for them to shut up. But then it's
you have one bad game, and I men say, like
as a whole is bad as bad because of the picks,
but you look at the picks. His first one bad
throw Okay, see bad throws all over the place. It
was a bad throw. It's it's unexcusable. There's no excuse
for it. He would say, my god, that was terrible.
Second one pushes the ball down the field points safety
makes a play because he points, that's the thing that's
something to learn from right there. Yeah, he was open
just once, he pointed, if you threw a litt little
split second earlier, he gets it there, it ends up.
I think it was second down. You don't want to
throw that pick, but at the end of the day,
it becomes about a fifty yard punt. So like that's
how we would always look at it in the quarterback room, like, yeah,
I don't want you to do that. We lost the ball,
you know, I don't know what would have happened on
third down. Well, let's throw it away and see what happens.
But you know what, it's not the end of the
world because it's bad on the stat sheet because you
get an extra pick, but it turns out to be
a forty five to fifty yard punt. They get it
backed up anyway, So we live with it. We move on.
Let's wash that one, let's improve from it. The third
pick fourth down, Like, who know, Like it was a
two man route. It was you see that play all
the time. Kamara kind of thought bailed to the flat toil.
It didn't give any presence of a play action fake.
Speaker 3: He got knocked down.
Speaker 5: He got knocked down, so you gotta throw it. I mean,
it looks bad, but what are you gonna do. It's
fourth down. You can't take a sack. You gotta try something,
So not make excuses. Certainly, he's done a great job
of protecting the football. That's why nobody, none of these
haters could say anything, because he has protected the football
and look efficient.
Speaker 2: But like what he said as soon as he did,
you talk people.
Speaker 5: In the NFL. This guy's a starting quarterback in the NFL.
I'm not saying he's the top five, top ten quarterback. Yeah,
at least right now.
Speaker 4: I mean, like, come on, he's he's starting in Miami,
he's starting in He's starting for the Jets, starting in Cleveland, Tennessee, Vegas.
I'm just I mean, anybody else, any other top ones,
like kind of come I'm Carolina Arizona, Arizona.
Speaker 2: Like I'm done with Cali Murray.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, so my whole point is, I get
what you're saying, wanting to see what you drafted.
Speaker 3: I get it.
Speaker 4: But my point is, like fortieth overall doesn't guarantee you anything.
Fourteenth overall it does. Now, if you do this, which
it does seem like it is inevitable, at some.
Speaker 3: Point, it will happen.
Speaker 4: If you do this, you just have to know that
it is going to change the growth of Spencer Rattler.
And I think Spencer Rattler is somebody you can grow with. Now,
Tyler Shuck might be really, really good. He might, but again,
Spencer Ratler beat him out in camp. I don't care
if it was close. I don't care if it was
by a mile. A second year quarterback that you drafted
in the fifth round beat out a quarterback that you
drafted just a year later in the second round. It's
not like you went with Spencer Rattler because he was
a seventh year guy and you wanted to vet in there.
He was a second year guy that only had a
handful of starts under his belt, and he beat out
Tyler Shuck. So when you say you gotta see what
you have in Tyler Shuck, they saw enough from both
to make the decision to go with Rattler out of camp.
Speaker 5: I'm looking at the chair now. Yoda in the chat says,
Rattler's ceiling is very low. He's not a franchise CUBI.
What do you mean the ceiling's not low. He's accurate,
he's got a big, strong arm. He's accurate down the field.
He manages the game very well. Ghoso's reads. He can move,
he can run, he can scramble. I don't understan the
comments of people saying his ceiling is low. He's got
all the athleticism, he's got the arm, he's got the accuracy.
He's had some issues, like he's thrown some inaccurate passes,
but watch the entire NFL. Nobody makes perfect throws every time.
I don't understand what the this is not a knock
and get shucked. We hadn't seen him like it might
be great. I don't know. But like what I'm saying
is the starting quarterback right now should not be benched, No
for any reason, right now in the season. Now, if
you still have one loss and whatever later in the season,
that's the time to have the conversation. But I'm so
sick and tired of people saying his ceiling's low?
Speaker 2: Why why he was?
Speaker 4: He was somebody at one point in his career before
Caleb Williams beat him out and he did, and Caleb
Winn's number one overall pick, like he was thought of
as somebody that had first round talent. Go back and
you can pull up article after article after article of
what his talent is.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 4: Talent doesn't always translate to everything. Yeah, but like Matt said,
he's doing the things that you have to do as
far as his reads and his throws in the tight
windows and controlling the offense. So talent's not it just
because he's not six'. Five you don't have to be
six' five to thrive a. Quarterback anymore that's like nineteen ninety.
Speaker 5: Eight stuff, guess what you got to be accurate passer down,
The field you have to make, Good decisions you got
to be have a little athleticism. To you check, Check
check we. Got it what why is this? Ceiling low?
Do WE and i got? Another question we feel good
enough about rally to not take a first the FIRST
round qb in next. Year's, draft yeah why don't you
draft some people that can make a play when you throw,
Them ball why don't you draft some people that can
help you not give up six and a half yards
per carry to. Running backs.
Speaker 4: Maybe with this, quarterback class After what i've seen in
this college. Football SEASON if I if i do in
fact get the number, one, pick man, Oh man i'm
trading that thing for four or five. Six picks your
roster right now needs so much more than. One player
we're also a part of the conversation that we're not
having its rattler is playing with a ROSTER that Espn
dot com had as the thirty second ranked roster IN.
The nfl that's what he's in charge of. Right now,
SO again i understand you wanting to see your second,
round quarterback but if you, do it just know that
you are throwing a wrench in the development of your
quarterback that's playing well enough to be the starter in
multiple places IN, the NFL and i think can continue
to get better.
Speaker 3: As well so, all right we'll take. A break We've Got.
Nick underhill no one's.
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Speaker 2: GOT me i got angry now thinking About That.
Speaker 5: Spencer rattler it's just like and and we. Get It like.
Saints fans you want, to like you want something to feel.
Good about you want like something to hang your. Hat
on you want to you just want you want want
WANT like i.
Speaker 2: Get it.
Speaker 5: It's awesome you just have to like take a step
back and just look, at something look at, things objectively
and there's nothing that says that this guy is a
backup quarterback and has a. Low, ceiling hey we've done
a really bad job at time, management today. Clock, management.
Speaker 2: Hey we've been. So, good well we're doing the problem
that we.
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Speaker 2: On time yeah, we are but we didn't in this.
Speaker 5: We, didn't hey, hand hand that's us.
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