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Speaker 2: Okay, here we go where the.

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Speaker 1: Plays get broken down and science gets denied to.

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Speaker 4: All right, welcome back in our number two of O

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also the film review. Sign up for a little subscription

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service of perfect idration. All right, I got a question

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for you all. Anybody remember a little trivia.

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Speaker 5: Anybody remember the name of a dried up river or

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river that is not all wet.

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Speaker 6: I don't remember.

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Speaker 2: No, no, I don't have experience an arroy you.

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Speaker 3: I was right on tip of my tope right there.

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Speaker 2: Carlo is a really good point guard.

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Speaker 5: There you go.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that's it as a whole fact.

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Speaker 4: The name gotcha, uh, Cody in said the Bouty four

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Chattel love how everyone into the station picked LSU to win,

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yet the chat is hating on the scone and celebrating

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him being wrong. Cody, you think, like when we do

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the picks with Marlar by the way, and yeah we did,

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I'll pick LSU and in the picks of the other games,

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I think I went undefeated.

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Speaker 3: And that's the most.

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Speaker 4: You're gonna hear about it, because it's like we get

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those in me and Matt sometimes we look at each

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and be like, hey, this sounds good. Yeah, that sounds good. Okay, Sin,

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I wouldn't put a lot into that. I'm gonna be

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honest with you. I'm not gonna have my picture next

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to somebody else's logo. I'm gonna tell you that right

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now l should be twenty eight point dogs.

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Speaker 2: I'm probably gonna be the same.

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Speaker 5: I think this is the week.

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Speaker 2: This is the week.

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Speaker 5: That's what that's gonna be our thought process.

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Speaker 4: I might just put like a picture of Marshawn Lynch

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and just my score prediction. I'm here so I don't

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get fined. Yeah that makes you feel Maybe that makes

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you feel better about it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but I wouldn't look at when we when you're

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asking LSU fans, I don't care if we do radio

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or not to pick a score for LSU. I'm gonna

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pick with my heart. I pick what I want. Would

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I want the score to be? Yeah, it's what I'm like.

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Speaker 3: I did speak to a.

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Speaker 4: Group in Nashville on Friday, and I could tell they

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didn't like my vibe of how it needs you to

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be a little bit or positive to I was like, look,

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I'm just telling you where they're really good and it

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could be uh be a little troubles me if if

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if you didn't contain. My whole point was like, if

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you don't contain, diego Pavia and you don't have good discipline, Yep,

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this is what can happen. And so many times in

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that game, you had the right call, like Blake Baker

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had the right call, the execution wasn't there and it

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was clear as day to see, like when you rushed

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from the outside and you're the guy who is rushing

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off the edge, be it at a corner, be it

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a linebacker star or whatever. When you rush, you gotta

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rush to the upfield shoulder, like the highest point because

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you're contained right in Diego Pavia, how many times he

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saw that you rushing into his front shoulder and he

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had old spin move, yeah, and bro Contein and a

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lot of all hell breaks loose when that happens to

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Speaker 3: That guy's really good.

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Speaker 5: At it, and a guy's gonna look kind of like

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that's gonna make his plays in any game that he played.

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have the perfect technique, but you did kind of make

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it easy on him by just taking bad, like you said,

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bad rush angles. But then I just I just felt

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like there was bad angles taken all over the field

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throughout that game. I didn't think there was that many

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mental mistakes, Like I didn't watch it. Of course, I

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didn't watch the defensive film against Vanderbilt with as close

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of an eye as I did the offense, because the

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offensive struggles are more way more glaring, yeah than the

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defensive struggles. But I just didn't notice as many missed

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assignments and things that were glaring, except for you know,

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just physically, we didn't as a whole. We didn't make

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the plays. You didn't take the right angles, you couldn't

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get down on the ground. You just didn't make the

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plays that you were like an opportunity presented itself. And

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then when you do that against a guy that is

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playing his ass off like Diego Pavia and a team

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that is outstandingly coached for the details of every every position.

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their job and was coached to do their job, and

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executed it from like a very very minor detail to

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a big picture thing. And when you got a guy

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that plays off schedule like that, there's a couple of

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plays you just you got to take your hat off

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to him and be like, hey, hell of a play man,

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got there's there's there's not a defense we can call

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up to defend that play you just made, because you

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can't expect a guy that's beating you with his feet

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to scramble around for eight seconds. Back there, of course

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in the back is blocking. Of course, the guy that

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has the backman demand is gonna be like, all right,

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it's been like eight seconds. I'm gonna try to rest

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this quarterback now. And the running back of course pops

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free and more time buys more time. Like it just

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plays that are gonna happen. But when you were presented

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the opportunity to make plays, it just it didn't always

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Speaker 4: But again, let's yeah, we can we can get into

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some of the defensive stuff and maybe here in the

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next couple of seconds we can actually pull it up

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and show you because like the thing for the defense.

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Speaker 3: And I know I've heard people be like, oh this

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defense they said they were relieve they're not.

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Speaker 4: But if you watch it, like the things that happened

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to the defense, like when Vanderbilt just lined up and

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ran the football, which they've done on everybody, they didn't

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make any hay.

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Speaker 3: It was the off schedule stuff. They gave you problems.

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Speaker 4: The receivers didn't really have placed Now the tight ends

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yet again all old miss game gave you trouble. The

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tight end continues to give you trouble. But it was

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the chaotic plays that you didn't handle. And this felt

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like a game in which, like there's games Witweeks can miss,

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this was a bad one for him to miss because

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maybe he could handle some of the chaos. But look,

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there's quarterbacks that you're about to play won this week

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certainly went against Oklahoma. Guess where they thrive in the chaos.

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what you didn't handle well. And like on the fourth down,

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like Jack Pibrin has a good rush. It surprises Diego

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Pavia and like he because they had it. That was

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a throwback screen. Nobody's called it that, but that's what

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it was on the fourth down. It was a throwback

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screen to the running back and you can see the

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offensive lineman set the release, and so Diego Pavia gets

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surprised because Jack Pibrin's in his face right now. He

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doesn't bite on the play action or I think it

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was play action to the right.

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Speaker 3: Either way, we'll go back and look at it.

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Speaker 4: And so Diego's like, oh gosh, I gotta buy some

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time because this has got to develop. And he makes

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you miss and he throws it back across and you've

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got Lineman there trying to get out there as well.

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It went wider than I think, but like that's a

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play where you had a guy in the backfield.

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Speaker 2: It's a good rush, good play red.

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Speaker 4: You know, he recognizes the play and the recognition of

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the plays right there. But Diego knew what he had.

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He didn't panic, he didn't get away from the play.

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He just continued to buy time. And then those are

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across the field on a fourth down conversion. Vanderbilt.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think defensively, we I feel like in the

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game gets very close, very close to the entire game.

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It was like the game of like we were right there,

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like so close to stopping them multiple times. At the

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end of the day, when you look at the big picture,

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with the game still undecided, but still with then I

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think it was four points into the second half, get

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a big fourth down stop, give your offense the opportunity

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to take the lead going into halftime. How different does

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that game feel? They can execute and they get the

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ball in their own in Vanderbilt territory. Into the game,

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we hadn't been able to stop them, stop them. You

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get him two stops in a row to try to

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get back in that game and potentially take a lead.

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Much How different is the narrative this week? The offense

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executes the small things. Yeah, football is about the small things.

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You gotta execute the details, and we laid out a

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lot of those details. But so we can we can.

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We can sit here and harp on the defense is

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all we want. And they had plays to be made

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that weren't made. And sure there's certainly, of course there's clips,

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you know, floating all over the internet of LSU getting

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out physicaled in the trenches, which did happen, didn't happen

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every play. It's not like they just came out and

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physically dominated us every single play. But LSU needs LSU

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defense needs to get that swagger back a night game

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at home this week versus top three opponent. Get the

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swagger back, become the hammer again, don't be the nail

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because for a lot of that game this past weekend

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as a team as a whole, was the nail and

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not the hammer. So you got to get the swagger back.

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with the defense. The offense has to make its improvement, certainly,

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but if we're going to win this game, if we

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want any chance to beat A and M this week

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at home, that defense is gonna have to come play

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with a tear on fire and dominate the.

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Speaker 2: Game inside the boy four chats.

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Speaker 4: So all you need is a good tight end and

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a mobile quarterback to beat Blake's defense. No, because there's

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somebody assigned to the tight end. He's gonna execute your

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job like it's man coverage. Is its man coverage? Like

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you don't leave.

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Speaker 3: And that was a problem I think in the Vanderbilt game.

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Speaker 4: And I haven't had a chance to ask like this,

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but like we're people trying to do too much to

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stop Diego Pavia. And you could see it live in

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the game any big down, any big down, and anytime

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that Diego Pavia put it in the running backs belly,

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like you had like four people like halt and stop.

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There's somebody for the running back, there's somebody for the

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tight end. There's somebody for Diego Pavia. And you have

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to play your part. We always talk about b your

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one to eleventh but and I get it. Look, I

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get it, like he's a game changer, he's taking it.

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But the problem was you were hon in on that,

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and even if you were doing your job, you froze

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and worried about him when he wasn't your responsibility. Then

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you're a second late getting to your responsibility. Then it's

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too late because it's a seven yard game.

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Speaker 5: Yep, Yeah, you're right. And I noticed that last the

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South Carolina game, I noticed breaking down the film watching

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how we how we went about defending Lenora's Sellers, especially

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like on third downs a lot of times there was

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two defenders that were spying him, and I thought it

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was like, I was curious when I was watching, I

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was like, you don't need two spies, you just need one.

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We ran We ran what was essentially a cover zero

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type defense against Lenora Sellers, so four across, four DB's

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across for four man to man on the receivers. It

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was clear like it was zero coverage. But the point

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of bringing to zero coverage is that you get one

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extra guy blitz in and you make the quarterback get

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the ball out really fast because you had an extra

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guy blitz and that can't be accounted for. But they

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they kind of took away their blitz advantage and left

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two linebackers to spy for Lenora's Sellers. Now it worked out, yeah,

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but it was to me it was kind of an

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unsound approach to that. Now, maybe it was a misassignment, right,

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it wasn't supposed to proy. But I've noticed multiple times

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in this past game, Pavey is scrambling out and two

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people trying to account for him. Harold Perkins leaving any

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thought that he have of being a curl flat defender

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or a post defender, or a man defender for that matter,

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to go chase Pavia from like twenty yards away.

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Speaker 4: I mean, look, you get away with it a lot

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because you are an athletic, freaking you can close that

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gap against Clemson. You did it, and Kate Clebnick didn't

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have an answer for it. The Eagle Paviy is not

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Kate Clubnick, and it was something that then got you

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multiple multiple time.

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Speaker 5: A LSU two and two versus quarterbacks this season. So

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let's get back to the winning record.

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Speaker 4: All right, we will take a break, continue some more

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of this conversation. I do want to get to the

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Saints at some point today, and I know we have

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uh Nick Underhill joining us at nine to go over it.

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Speaker 3: Man, he's probably gonna be so excited.

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Speaker 5: We're gonna get him on film. I want to see

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the joy in this face.

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Speaker 4: All I got, I've got a lot of thoughts on that,

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but all right, we'll take a break, we'll come back.

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doing in the courtroom in the local communities. Always got

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something going on throughout the state of Louisiana. And it

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is your area code in Louisiana, doesn't matter what it is.

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eighty eight. You give that number a call, They're gonna

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make sure that they can help you out.

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Speaker 2: Get Gordon and get it done.

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Speaker 6: Do they do it in Napoleon Bolve they do.

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Speaker 2: Look at you get you all right, Hey, now you

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gotta give me one caplin. Okay, Matthew who shown all right?

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Didn't like how the lack of confidence you had in that.

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Speaker 5: No, that was confident that it's a place. But I've

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said it before, have you?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I took care.

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Speaker 6: Are you still wondering if this is eighties?

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Speaker 2: I was thinking about it. Really, I really think he is.

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Speaker 5: That's why, like you know.

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Speaker 6: You two was ahead of their time. Yeah, eighty three.

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Speaker 4: I remember that time that you two just downloaded a

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whole album on your iPhone.

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Speaker 3: Didn't even ask you just put it on your iPhone.

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Speaker 4: Did they like twenty ten, twenty eleven, Yeah, from around

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the Yeah, they had a new album and it automatically

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Apple just sent it to your phone.

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Speaker 2: Gonna tell you you know what good good advertising?

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Speaker 5: Cause all right, So for years, every time i'd get

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in my wife's car, you know, it automatically would like

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connect to your phone or whatever it was, YouTube and

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YouTube will start playing. I'm like, you love YouTube. I

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swear I never listened to them, but it always plays

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on my phone every time I start the car.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, how did you miss that?

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Speaker 2: I really that was the thing.

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Speaker 3: YEA plus he was in green Bay.

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Speaker 4: I'm not sure news travels there automatically.

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Speaker 2: It was.

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Speaker 5: It was part of like a software update.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, they literally just put it on your phone.

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Speaker 6: Everybody. It happened to everyone.

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Speaker 2: It happened to YouTube.

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Speaker 3: There's our button sound board.

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Speaker 5: I feel violated here.

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, it's pretty violated.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you got violated, Bud.

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Speaker 6: They fully violated you. We all got violated by YouTube.

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Speaker 5: Like great little lawsuit against that. My wife had to

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listen to those songs every time.

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Speaker 3: She turned limitations is over there?

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Speaker 8: Like, hey guys, somebody Matt Felin issuing fifteen years later,

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apparently he just found out about.

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Speaker 6: This is still the backup quarterback in Green Bay.

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Speaker 5: The published art.

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Speaker 6: I don't know why that. Maybe giggle so hard last

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night when you sent that in the group chat. It's

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called being a poolished.

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Speaker 5: It's called being a poolished ardor Alandro.

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Speaker 6: I know, I wouldn't know about it. Do we want

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some good news?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Bring the back?

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: L C Baseball all up in the White House.

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Speaker 6: So was l C Streetporte.

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Speaker 2: Let's go undefeated baseball Sea Yeah yeah, God they were dominant.

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Speaker 6: We've all said it. LSU shreetport Su predominant, no doubt,

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real and great.

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Speaker 5: I think they we read the stats off in the summer.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, like they like sept records for like consecutive wins

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all that, Like they're they were like, actually, we're.

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Speaker 5: Saying the best baseball team Louisiana.

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Speaker 4: That was that actually would have been like you know,

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something like in the sixties and seventies. They would have

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done like they used to have, like like the college

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All Star team used to play like NFL teams Like

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that would have been fun if they'd have had LU

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would have been play against LSU like in the box

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and it wouldn't had to have been like you know

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l s u's top guys because they got drafted.

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Speaker 2: I get that, but that would have been fun.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, was it was it?

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Speaker 5: The national champion would play like the Pro Bowl team

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or something like that.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it looks so sharp. Look at Steven Blom Yeah.

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Speaker 5: All hey, nice fits all around.

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Speaker 3: Look, Matt and I got a chance.

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Speaker 4: Matt did the Tennessee team that did it three times

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three times once.

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Speaker 3: Very cool experience.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't care like what your politics are like

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when you get a chance to meet like the president

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like a big deal. Like I've said, I told the

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story a thousand times, but like George W. Bush telling

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me come on in here, man, get in here. I

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was like, the President, I'm giving you this football. Can

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I I don't know, like you wanted to picture. I'm like,

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can you touch the.

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Speaker 2: President of people with some automatic weapons?

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, but like, very cool. That's something none

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of those players will ever forget ever. Those period again,

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You've done it three times are.

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Speaker 6: Going to be awesome. I'm like, I'm going to look back.

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Speaker 5: Was the best one.

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Speaker 6: J Johnson's speech was awesome too, Yeah, yeah, I saw.

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Speaker 7: Trump's was great, Like, yeah, it's an experience that you'll

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never forget.

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Speaker 6: I've never experienced.

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Speaker 7: I'm sure it's great, but I can only imagine that

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it's just the biggest honor and experience that it's fantastic.

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Speaker 5: It is, like you said, no matter what your politics are,

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it's the president of the United States of America. Yeah,

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it doesn't matter. So I went there and let's see

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three oh seven and then two thousand and eleven, Sous twice,

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Obama once, And it was amazing all three times, right,

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and amazing.

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Speaker 4: They kept saying, hey, y'alls quarterback keeps asking the president

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about nineteen ninety five Texas Rangers stats and we really

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need him to stop.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, like, what's this guy's deal?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's weird, now Bush, what are we doing?

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Speaker 5: It is humbling to know that, all right? So No, seven,

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Like we were, we were pretty close to the president

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during that very close. So it's like hand shoulder.

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Speaker 2: It was nerve racket yea, yeah.

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Speaker 5: Other other teams. I was like, you know, back left corner,

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but that your background podder, background podder, for sure. I

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was on the staircase, like thecase like a wedding picture. Yeah,

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but being closer to him, it was like it was

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humbling knowing that I'm definitely in the crosshairs of somebody

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was looking at me one safety and yeah away from

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don't make a wrong move though, So to your point,

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it's like I'm gonna hand you this football. How close

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can I actually get?

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah?

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Speaker 4: And the President had to tell me get on in here,

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in here, yeah, win for the real thing.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Like dude, when we were there with Green Bay

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and T was an eleven, we had a player in

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our team, linebacker who forgot his ID.

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Speaker 2: Oh no I had to sit on the bus. No, no.

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Speaker 3: He didn't.

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Speaker 5: He didn't get to go made the trip.

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Speaker 4: It was awesome the plane because I mean, like it's

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like a charter charter plane, like you just it's a

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private chart. They have like a they have like a

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booklet basically that has like everybody's I D picture and

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like they just flip it and they see and he was.

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Speaker 5: Like and I felt we felt so bad for him

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because like he was so excited to meet Obama. He

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absolute he forgot his idea.

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Speaker 6: Dang, I feel so bad for.

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Speaker 5: Him, like thinking I hadn't thought about that in so

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long to feel bad.

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Speaker 4: All over he get a chance, Like did did he

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go to any other team and maybe get a chance

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to No?

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Speaker 2: I didn't think he did.

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Speaker 3: Not many people get to go three times. This guy.

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Speaker 8: Jelish Thompson tweeted that out. Josh Pearson tweeted that out.

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That's him and Trump shaking hands.

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Speaker 2: So cool, so cool.

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Speaker 6: I love it.

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Speaker 4: Also, whoa why is that man catching a straight short?

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Speaker 2: Even guys low.

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Speaker 3: Man wins right, he looks, he looks.

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Speaker 5: He looks exactly like Ricky Faller in that picture. It's anybody.

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Speaker 2: Well, if he had the all orange want to be perfect, I.

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Speaker 5: Would be perfect. He looks just like Ricky. Sorry, who

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was the what was the team? What was the year

475
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that they came? And uh they came? Trump had like

476
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all fast food there.

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Speaker 6: It was.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it was a.

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Speaker 5: Year before L s U was that COVID situation.

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Speaker 3: I think yeah, yeah, I think it was after Yeah.

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Speaker 8: Right, it was the year before Clemson won in eighteen

482
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and then LU was eighteen.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, either way, it was Wendy's right, it was.

484
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Speaker 2: It was like three. It was like three or four

485
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different things.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they like it was we didn't get food, we

487
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got nothing. Yeah, yeah, George, he.

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Speaker 6: Didn't feed you.

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Speaker 3: He did not feed us. Crazy, he did not.

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Speaker 5: He did say when three because we had you were

491
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looking at the White House during the ceremony. L s

492
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U team was on like the left staircase and into

493
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the stage. USC was on the right staircase, and he

494
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famously said, you know, it's big debate on whose best

495
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team is. You know, I got a pretty big front

496
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yard here.

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Speaker 2: That's one tiking about how about that.

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Speaker 3: Hey, let's settle this.

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Speaker 5: Let's settle this right now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was Clemson.

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Speaker 8: So McDonald's and Wendy's Dominoes and then like some other

502
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like fries all that, but burgers from McDonald's and Wendy's

503
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and the Domino's pizza.

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Speaker 4: It was Yeah, Matt and I enjoyed going to a Nationals.

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Speaker 3: We went to a Nationals game, had.

506
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Speaker 4: A couple of cold pops, had a couple of Little

507
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Marlin's Nationals.

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Speaker 2: We were there first year in the Mall Park.

509
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Speaker 5: We travel as a team, and every time he travels

510
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the team, there's like, you know, there's a curfew, there's

511
00:25:32,279 --> 00:25:36,240
rule you got to go to these team events, team meetings. Well, e'ester.

512
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:38,200
Now we get there and we're like, wait a minute,

513
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weren't we're not on.

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Speaker 4: The team anymore, Like we graduate, Like we were like

515
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:47,160
getting ready for the the had the combat already.

516
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Speaker 5: Happened, the Combina. It was the spring. It was like

517
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we were a couple of weeks away from the draft.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, were about to get drafted and we were about

519
00:25:52,759 --> 00:25:55,079
to like leave the baseball game early because we're like

520
00:25:55,079 --> 00:25:56,400
we got to make it back for curfew.

521
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Speaker 3: And we like we had the same thought at the

522
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same time.

523
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Speaker 4: We look at each other, We're like, they can't do

524
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,279
anything to us, wouldn't play for them anymore.

525
00:26:03,319 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 5: I have to do anything. Well, Les can't run us,

526
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:08,960
and so we talked about Richie Emergan. He's like, yeah,

527
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:10,359
I'll get you some get some tickets.

528
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's fun. It was a good ballpark. It was

529
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new at the time.

530
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Speaker 7: You know my Mariners, y'all know me, huge Mariners fan,

531
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:19,599
been a Mariners fan forever.

532
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,599
Speaker 3: That was tough. That was tough. Last night was tough.

533
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:24,799
Speaker 5: True Yankees fan.

534
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,200
Speaker 4: No, I've I've always been weird. I don't know, weird,

535
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,720
like I don't have a dog in the fight. But

536
00:26:30,799 --> 00:26:32,720
the Manners have never made it to the World Series.

537
00:26:32,839 --> 00:26:34,319
Speaker 6: I was pulling for him.

538
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:35,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was pulling for.

539
00:26:35,319 --> 00:26:40,039
Speaker 3: Him like something like my nineteen nineties. The Ghost.

540
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:45,119
Speaker 2: Martinez is Alex Rodriguez King.

541
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:48,599
Speaker 5: Metaphorical ghost of King Griffy Jr.

542
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:52,160
Speaker 2: He's a guys. Don't worry, he's still He's still with us.

543
00:26:52,279 --> 00:26:52,880
Don't worry.

544
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,960
Speaker 5: King Griffy Junior Baseball Super Nintendo the best, one of

545
00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:58,720
the best video games of all time.

546
00:26:58,759 --> 00:27:00,799
Speaker 6: I wanted them to do it for him, for each row.

547
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:06,200
Speaker 5: Randy Johnson, Yeah, I used to give the Rangers fits.

548
00:27:06,319 --> 00:27:08,400
Speaker 2: They've had some they've had some great players and just

549
00:27:09,519 --> 00:27:11,200
through m.

550
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Speaker 7: Man, but I could not get enough of the big dumper,

551
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,640
Like that guy is awesome and I wanted to see

552
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:17,599
him keep going.

553
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 5: But he was great. Yeah, Okay, he just doesn't look

554
00:27:20,039 --> 00:27:23,680
like an athlete to right, it's just kind of like

555
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:25,319
a kind of like this round face.

556
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 2: He's like unassuming face, and then he just.

557
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:34,279
Speaker 6: What's the tweet? This is peak mill performance performance.

558
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 2: So Blue Jays Dodgers, Dodgers.

559
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Speaker 6: I'm pretty grossy, but.

560
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Speaker 4: I'm going for the Dodgers. I can't go against I can't.

561
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I can't go against America. It's an American team version behind.

562
00:27:48,519 --> 00:27:51,480
We did our show yesterday. I think I'm Blue Jays

563
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:51,880
on this one.

564
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Speaker 5: I think we lost a little credit on our show

565
00:27:54,319 --> 00:27:58,319
yesterday because on our weekend winners, nobody said show, Heytani.

566
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Speaker 3: Well we were, we were.

567
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,920
Speaker 5: There's a lot of because I think his performance. I

568
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,519
think his performance was on it Friday night. So this

569
00:28:05,519 --> 00:28:07,880
part of the weekend, it was going pitch hit three

570
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:09,480
dingers three.

571
00:28:09,279 --> 00:28:11,680
Speaker 2: For three and then what six innings the.

572
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Speaker 5: Biggest yeah, and like no no earned runs, Like it

573
00:28:15,599 --> 00:28:19,680
was probably the greatest performance in post season history as

574
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:20,160
a player.

575
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 7: Yeah, somebody said, degenerate gambler that through his translator under

576
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:25,799
the bus, looking.

577
00:28:25,599 --> 00:28:29,279
Speaker 2: At half fall people. If I show it makes you

578
00:28:29,319 --> 00:28:31,519
a degenerate somebody.

579
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:35,519
Speaker 4: Somebody, somebody's like, hey, I know baseball is not popular anymore.

580
00:28:35,519 --> 00:28:36,880
Speaker 3: So for you football bros.

581
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:41,079
Speaker 4: That's like going uh fifteen of eighteen, throwing for two touchdowns,

582
00:28:41,119 --> 00:28:44,720
having eight tackles, two TFLs, a sack, and also blocking

583
00:28:44,759 --> 00:28:45,119
a punt.

584
00:28:45,319 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, maybe went in there somewhere.

585
00:28:50,599 --> 00:28:53,559
Speaker 5: It's unbelievable. He almost said that out of the park too.

586
00:28:53,559 --> 00:29:02,400
It almost got parking lot. Oh well, he's pretty good.

587
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 2: A little bit baseball.

588
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 3: All right, So we got two Blue Jays. I'm going Dodgers.

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00:29:05,079 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 5: I'm going Dodgers because of America. Yeah, I don't care

590
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:09,799
how much you hate him. Sorry, I don't care if

591
00:29:09,799 --> 00:29:12,759
you think it's the evil Empire. It's still America.

592
00:29:13,759 --> 00:29:17,359
Speaker 6: Are you calling America evil? Nope, sounds like that's what

593
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you're doing.

594
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,039
Speaker 5: Saying that happens.

595
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Speaker 3: Happens.

596
00:29:22,839 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 5: No, I love America. Support the troops.

597
00:29:28,519 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 6: Who doesn't.

598
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 3: Really want the marriage to win, though I still wanted

599
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:35,640
they did not.

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00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,599
Speaker 4: All right, we'll take a break and when we come back,

601
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I do want to get into all the conversations surrounding

602
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Spencer Raller and Tyler Shuck and how people just want

603
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to see Tyler shuck just because even though Spencer Railer

604
00:29:49,279 --> 00:29:51,880
had one bad and if you're gonna have one bad

605
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,839
game and get replaced in the NFL, I don't think

606
00:29:54,839 --> 00:29:57,319
that's a recipe for success. But we've got a lot

607
00:29:57,359 --> 00:29:59,519
to get into when it comes to the Saints in

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the quarterback position, and we'll do it once we come

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Speaker 1: Tigers turn talkers. This is off the bench.

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Speaker 4: Moon.

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Speaker 2: I saw you so soon you take me.

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Speaker 2: I know it must speak the killing time.

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Speaker 4: All right, welcome back in ot B here live from

642
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the Raising Kine studio. All right, let's have the conversation.

643
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:58,400
A lot of talk, a lot of chatter about Spencer Rattler.

644
00:31:58,559 --> 00:32:00,799
And you knew it was going to happen as soon

645
00:32:00,799 --> 00:32:04,000
as he had one game where he had some turnovers.

646
00:32:04,079 --> 00:32:06,759
Speaker 2: It was going to be. I need to see Tyler shuck.

647
00:32:07,119 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 3: You got to see what you drafted.

648
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 4: And again, I'm just telling you, fortieth overall does not

649
00:32:11,559 --> 00:32:13,039
guarantee you anything.

650
00:32:13,559 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 2: And you say, well, you got to know, you got

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00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:15,400
to know.

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00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 4: Well, he had a shot to win the job at

653
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:20,279
a training camp and he didn't do it. So I

654
00:32:20,319 --> 00:32:22,079
get the sentiment that you need to find out what

655
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,799
you have, But you found out what you have so

656
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,920
far in practice leading up to your decision to name

657
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:31,720
Spencer Ratler the starting quarterback. And look, I understand what

658
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,240
you're saying, like the season's loss, you might as well see,

659
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:38,079
but I'll caution you. What is that telling Spencer Ratler

660
00:32:38,519 --> 00:32:41,240
a guy that right now is thirteenth in the NFL

661
00:32:41,279 --> 00:32:45,240
in passing yards. He's got more passing yards now, He's

662
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:46,839
got more than like Jordan Love. But Jordan Loun's played

663
00:32:46,839 --> 00:32:49,359
one less game. He's got more and the same games

664
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:53,799
played as Geno Smith. He's got more than cam Ward

665
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,279
to a tongue of Ailoa, Bryce Young, he's got more

666
00:32:56,279 --> 00:32:56,640
than c. J.

667
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:57,079
Speaker 5: Stroud.

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00:32:57,079 --> 00:32:59,359
Speaker 4: He's got more than Aaron Rodgers. He's got more than

669
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:01,559
a lot of names that you would know. I mean,

670
00:33:02,039 --> 00:33:04,559
right now, I think you can make the argument he's

671
00:33:04,599 --> 00:33:07,319
playing better. Like Matt said, he's playing better than probably

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00:33:07,359 --> 00:33:09,799
three of the six quarterbacks that got drafted in the

673
00:33:09,839 --> 00:33:11,559
first round that we talk so much about I think

674
00:33:11,559 --> 00:33:14,079
he's playing better than Michael Pennicks right now.

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00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:19,079
Speaker 5: So well, yeah, go watch Pinix play on Sunday, Like, yeah,

676
00:33:19,119 --> 00:33:21,440
time the game of the line. Ball's in the dirt,

677
00:33:21,759 --> 00:33:24,160
ball's out of bounds, balls thrown over his head.

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00:33:25,119 --> 00:33:27,519
Speaker 4: So my whole point is if Spencer Ratler, who's completing

679
00:33:27,599 --> 00:33:32,240
sixty eight percent of his passes fourteen hundred yards, like,

680
00:33:32,319 --> 00:33:34,400
if you take him out right now, like, what does

681
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,519
that do to his development? Right? Because he could be

682
00:33:36,559 --> 00:33:39,319
your quarterback of the future, right, So if you take

683
00:33:39,359 --> 00:33:41,039
him out right now, you put Tyler Schuck in for

684
00:33:41,079 --> 00:33:43,279
four games, that's four games that Spencer Ratler does not

685
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,359
get to continue to develop.

686
00:33:45,079 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 3: What he's done so far this year.

687
00:33:47,599 --> 00:33:51,359
Speaker 4: And you could look around the NFL right now, and

688
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:56,440
I think, just without question, there's eight spots where he.

689
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,279
Speaker 2: Would be the starting quarterback for other teams.

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Speaker 4: And I heard yesterday he's basically a backup quarterback in

691
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:06,319
the NFL, which is just so incredibly false and just

692
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:07,359
not the truth.

693
00:34:07,599 --> 00:34:08,519
Speaker 3: It's just not the truth.

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00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 4: You talk to NFL scouts, and you talk to Drew Fabiani,

695
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:14,679
who runs the Senior Bowl, who's a scout in the

696
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:19,239
NFL for decades, and I'm like, hey, I keep hearing this.

697
00:34:19,519 --> 00:34:21,559
Are my eyes telling me a lie? He goes, No,

698
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:25,800
there's circles in the NFL right now. And that's the

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00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,800
conversation about Spencer Rattler in the level of play he

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has right now.

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Speaker 3: So what do you do?

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00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:35,800
Speaker 4: Because I think if you sit him because you want

703
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:39,400
to see what you have in Tyler Shuck, doesn't that

704
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,639
hurt his development of not having the four games or

705
00:34:42,679 --> 00:34:44,800
however many you take him out for?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And I think that to give like credence to

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00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,199
people's concern and like the voice, so like it's not

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00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:55,480
just a couple of people saying it. Like I've been

709
00:34:55,519 --> 00:35:00,159
getting like just absolutely blown up on Twitter since the

710
00:35:00,199 --> 00:35:02,800
game because I've been out there, you know, trying to

711
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,800
like put out those flames, and people like conversations like

712
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:10,079
why why would you want to do that? So now,

713
00:35:10,199 --> 00:35:11,960
to give credence to that at a certain point, like

714
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:13,760
if you only have one win and it's at the

715
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,400
end of the season, like we're talking about the like

716
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:20,159
the like the end like back half of December, and

717
00:35:20,199 --> 00:35:22,119
you want to get some people some extra playing time,

718
00:35:23,159 --> 00:35:25,440
that's I think at that point it's fine. But we're

719
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:31,199
sitting here in mid October, and you got a quarterback

720
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,599
that is I'm going to call it his first like

721
00:35:34,679 --> 00:35:39,000
real year as being a starter last year, let's take

722
00:35:39,039 --> 00:35:41,280
that out his first top four pass catchers or five

723
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:46,239
pass catchers on absolute and shambles. So this is a

724
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:51,079
kid that is shown that he can make every throw,

725
00:35:51,199 --> 00:35:53,239
he can make the read, he can execute an offense.

726
00:35:53,599 --> 00:35:56,480
He goes out in a game, a sloppy game that

727
00:35:56,679 --> 00:36:01,000
was wet ball, raining, muddy field, and doesn't have his

728
00:36:01,039 --> 00:36:05,199
best game. He has three interceptions, one fumble. Yeah, who

729
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,440
I mean, quarterbacks fumble on sacks all the time, right,

730
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,480
So it's just a shame that in this situation where

731
00:36:11,519 --> 00:36:14,960
you do have a guy behind him that's young, albeit

732
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:19,440
a year older than Rattler, he is a second round

733
00:36:19,519 --> 00:36:22,119
draft pick and everybody just wants to see, wants to see,

734
00:36:22,159 --> 00:36:24,840
wants to see. So Ratler basically has to play perfect

735
00:36:25,159 --> 00:36:29,400
better than twenty five quarterbacks out there in the NFL.

736
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:33,320
They're starting for them to shut up. But then it's

737
00:36:34,199 --> 00:36:37,400
you have one bad game, and I men say, like

738
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:39,280
as a whole is bad as bad because of the picks,

739
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,480
but you look at the picks. His first one bad

740
00:36:41,519 --> 00:36:45,480
throw Okay, see bad throws all over the place. It

741
00:36:45,519 --> 00:36:48,480
was a bad throw. It's it's unexcusable. There's no excuse

742
00:36:48,519 --> 00:36:50,719
for it. He would say, my god, that was terrible.

743
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:55,800
Second one pushes the ball down the field points safety

744
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:57,599
makes a play because he points, that's the thing that's

745
00:36:57,599 --> 00:36:59,599
something to learn from right there. Yeah, he was open

746
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:01,960
just once, he pointed, if you threw a litt little

747
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,800
split second earlier, he gets it there, it ends up.

748
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:06,800
I think it was second down. You don't want to

749
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:08,360
throw that pick, but at the end of the day,

750
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:11,199
it becomes about a fifty yard punt. So like that's

751
00:37:11,199 --> 00:37:13,320
how we would always look at it in the quarterback room, like, yeah,

752
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:15,440
I don't want you to do that. We lost the ball,

753
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:17,320
you know, I don't know what would have happened on

754
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:20,039
third down. Well, let's throw it away and see what happens.

755
00:37:20,119 --> 00:37:22,159
But you know what, it's not the end of the

756
00:37:22,159 --> 00:37:24,880
world because it's bad on the stat sheet because you

757
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,000
get an extra pick, but it turns out to be

758
00:37:27,039 --> 00:37:29,440
a forty five to fifty yard punt. They get it

759
00:37:29,639 --> 00:37:32,559
backed up anyway, So we live with it. We move on.

760
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:36,320
Let's wash that one, let's improve from it. The third

761
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:39,440
pick fourth down, Like, who know, Like it was a

762
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:42,719
two man route. It was you see that play all

763
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,400
the time. Kamara kind of thought bailed to the flat toil.

764
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:47,840
It didn't give any presence of a play action fake.

765
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 3: He got knocked down.

766
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 5: He got knocked down, so you gotta throw it. I mean,

767
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,639
it looks bad, but what are you gonna do. It's

768
00:37:53,639 --> 00:37:56,880
fourth down. You can't take a sack. You gotta try something,

769
00:37:58,199 --> 00:38:02,599
So not make excuses. Certainly, he's done a great job

770
00:38:02,599 --> 00:38:04,800
of protecting the football. That's why nobody, none of these

771
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,239
haters could say anything, because he has protected the football

772
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:07,880
and look efficient.

773
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:09,599
Speaker 2: But like what he said as soon as he did,

774
00:38:10,079 --> 00:38:10,800
you talk people.

775
00:38:10,639 --> 00:38:13,760
Speaker 5: In the NFL. This guy's a starting quarterback in the NFL.

776
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,639
I'm not saying he's the top five, top ten quarterback. Yeah,

777
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:17,639
at least right now.

778
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:21,840
Speaker 4: I mean, like, come on, he's he's starting in Miami,

779
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:32,280
he's starting in He's starting for the Jets, starting in Cleveland, Tennessee, Vegas.

780
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:36,000
I'm just I mean, anybody else, any other top ones,

781
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:41,199
like kind of come I'm Carolina Arizona, Arizona.

782
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:42,199
Speaker 2: Like I'm done with Cali Murray.

783
00:38:42,639 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, so my whole point is, I get

784
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,480
what you're saying, wanting to see what you drafted.

785
00:38:47,599 --> 00:38:48,119
Speaker 3: I get it.

786
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,800
Speaker 4: But my point is, like fortieth overall doesn't guarantee you anything.

787
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:55,400
Fourteenth overall it does. Now, if you do this, which

788
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:57,320
it does seem like it is inevitable, at some.

789
00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:58,360
Speaker 3: Point, it will happen.

790
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 4: If you do this, you just have to know that

791
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:04,360
it is going to change the growth of Spencer Rattler.

792
00:39:04,679 --> 00:39:07,599
And I think Spencer Rattler is somebody you can grow with. Now,

793
00:39:07,639 --> 00:39:10,480
Tyler Shuck might be really, really good. He might, but again,

794
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:12,679
Spencer Ratler beat him out in camp. I don't care

795
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:14,079
if it was close. I don't care if it was

796
00:39:14,119 --> 00:39:16,840
by a mile. A second year quarterback that you drafted

797
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:19,360
in the fifth round beat out a quarterback that you

798
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:21,880
drafted just a year later in the second round. It's

799
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:24,679
not like you went with Spencer Rattler because he was

800
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:27,000
a seventh year guy and you wanted to vet in there.

801
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,519
He was a second year guy that only had a

802
00:39:29,519 --> 00:39:31,880
handful of starts under his belt, and he beat out

803
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,719
Tyler Shuck. So when you say you gotta see what

804
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,840
you have in Tyler Shuck, they saw enough from both

805
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,360
to make the decision to go with Rattler out of camp.

806
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 5: I'm looking at the chair now. Yoda in the chat says,

807
00:39:43,599 --> 00:39:47,960
Rattler's ceiling is very low. He's not a franchise CUBI.

808
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,639
What do you mean the ceiling's not low. He's accurate,

809
00:39:50,679 --> 00:39:53,760
he's got a big, strong arm. He's accurate down the field.

810
00:39:54,559 --> 00:39:57,800
He manages the game very well. Ghoso's reads. He can move,

811
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,119
he can run, he can scramble. I don't understan the

812
00:40:00,599 --> 00:40:07,280
comments of people saying his ceiling is low. He's got

813
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:11,079
all the athleticism, he's got the arm, he's got the accuracy.

814
00:40:11,119 --> 00:40:14,119
He's had some issues, like he's thrown some inaccurate passes,

815
00:40:14,679 --> 00:40:18,800
but watch the entire NFL. Nobody makes perfect throws every time.

816
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,119
I don't understand what the this is not a knock

817
00:40:22,159 --> 00:40:24,679
and get shucked. We hadn't seen him like it might

818
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:27,159
be great. I don't know. But like what I'm saying

819
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:31,280
is the starting quarterback right now should not be benched, No

820
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,440
for any reason, right now in the season. Now, if

821
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:36,960
you still have one loss and whatever later in the season,

822
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:39,360
that's the time to have the conversation. But I'm so

823
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:41,440
sick and tired of people saying his ceiling's low?

824
00:40:41,519 --> 00:40:43,159
Speaker 2: Why why he was?

825
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:45,079
Speaker 4: He was somebody at one point in his career before

826
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:47,000
Caleb Williams beat him out and he did, and Caleb

827
00:40:47,039 --> 00:40:49,800
Winn's number one overall pick, like he was thought of

828
00:40:50,079 --> 00:40:53,159
as somebody that had first round talent. Go back and

829
00:40:53,199 --> 00:40:55,480
you can pull up article after article after article of

830
00:40:55,519 --> 00:40:56,519
what his talent is.

831
00:40:56,559 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 2: Now.

832
00:40:56,760 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 4: Talent doesn't always translate to everything. Yeah, but like Matt said,

833
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:02,199
he's doing the things that you have to do as

834
00:41:02,199 --> 00:41:04,079
far as his reads and his throws in the tight

835
00:41:04,119 --> 00:41:08,320
windows and controlling the offense. So talent's not it just

836
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:10,679
because he's not six'. Five you don't have to be

837
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:13,960
six' five to thrive a. Quarterback anymore that's like nineteen ninety.

838
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:17,079
Speaker 5: Eight stuff, guess what you got to be accurate passer down,

839
00:41:17,079 --> 00:41:19,119
The field you have to make, Good decisions you got

840
00:41:19,119 --> 00:41:21,480
to be have a little athleticism. To you check, Check

841
00:41:21,599 --> 00:41:24,800
check we. Got it what why is this? Ceiling low?

842
00:41:25,679 --> 00:41:27,440
Do WE and i got? Another question we feel good

843
00:41:27,519 --> 00:41:30,119
enough about rally to not take a first the FIRST

844
00:41:30,159 --> 00:41:32,559
round qb in next. Year's, draft yeah why don't you

845
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:36,000
draft some people that can make a play when you throw,

846
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:37,760
Them ball why don't you draft some people that can

847
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:39,519
help you not give up six and a half yards

848
00:41:39,519 --> 00:41:40,840
per carry to. Running backs.

849
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:45,280
Speaker 4: Maybe with this, quarterback class After what i've seen in

850
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:48,239
this college. Football SEASON if I if i do in

851
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:51,119
fact get the number, one, pick man, Oh man i'm

852
00:41:51,159 --> 00:41:53,840
trading that thing for four or five. Six picks your

853
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,920
roster right now needs so much more than. One player

854
00:41:57,199 --> 00:41:59,119
we're also a part of the conversation that we're not

855
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858
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SO again i understand you wanting to see your second,

859
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,840
round quarterback but if you, do it just know that

860
00:42:17,039 --> 00:42:19,679
you are throwing a wrench in the development of your

861
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:23,920
quarterback that's playing well enough to be the starter in

862
00:42:24,079 --> 00:42:27,280
multiple places IN, the NFL and i think can continue

863
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:27,800
to get better.

864
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,679
Speaker 3: As well so, all right we'll take. A break We've Got.

865
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Speaker 2: GOT me i got angry now thinking About That.

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Speaker 5: Spencer rattler it's just like and and we. Get It like.

908
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:04,400
Saints fans you want, to like you want something to feel.

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Good about you want like something to hang your. Hat

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on you want to you just want you want want

911
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:11,760
WANT like i.

912
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Speaker 2: Get it.

913
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 5: It's awesome you just have to like take a step

914
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:18,159
back and just look, at something look at, things objectively

915
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:25,079
and there's nothing that says that this guy is a

916
00:45:25,119 --> 00:45:28,239
backup quarterback and has a. Low, ceiling hey we've done

917
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:32,039
a really bad job at time, management today. Clock, management.

918
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:35,719
Speaker 2: Hey we've been. So, good well we're doing the problem

919
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:36,039
that we.

920
00:45:36,039 --> 00:45:38,320
Speaker 4: Were doing the problem is in the, third segment is

921
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:41,039
when we've gotten into conversations that have a little bit of,

922
00:45:41,559 --> 00:45:43,840
you know fire, to them little a little juice, to

923
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:47,679
them juice meters. UP high i promise the scouts on

924
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:50,440
her in the, third hour we'll break.

925
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:53,400
Speaker 2: On time yeah, we are but we didn't in this.

926
00:45:53,679 --> 00:45:57,639
Speaker 5: We, didn't hey, hand hand that's us.

927
00:45:58,480 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 6: Off.

928
00:45:58,719 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 1: The bench